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jcastrom_3: ping me when you're around!13:18
m_3jcastro: yo13:36
m_3greetings from Utah!13:36
benjiI wasted a little time the other day because a relation was in an error state and I didn't notice it in the juju status output.  That got me thinking about colorizing the output to make errors pass less silently.  If there that functionality is desirable, I'll cook up a branch.13:43
benjiI suspect it will be off by default and those who want it on will use an alias to enable it.13:44
hazmatbenji, that sounds nice.. it be nice to start to have it as a juju-jitsu command..13:53
hazmatbenji, i always run things in emacs shells and escape codes cause foobar... but i'm probably one of a small few in that regard13:54
benjihazmat: not having used juju-jitsu, what is the attraction of having that functionality there?  It is a proving ground for inclusion in juju-proper?13:55
hazmatbenji, i think of it as such13:55
benjiyeah, as much as I like colorized output, making it the default is not really feasible13:55
hazmatbenji, the primary benefit of jitsu is it needs no coordination or acceptance, its very JFDI friendly13:56
hazmatbenji, if you want to just do it core, that also sounds good, just drop an email proposal to the list.13:56
benjiI'll think abotu which would be the best approach.  Thanks for the input!13:57
jcastrojamespage: you're going to europython right?14:03
jcastrojimbaker: there's nothing left to do for the Usenix config management thing other than for you to go and execute right?14:08
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jimbakerjcastro, correct15:01
jcastromramm: ^^^ I think you might both be there15:01
JoseeAntonioRjcastro: ping me once you're free, I'll be here for 3 more hours15:01
zookoHi folks!15:05
zookoPlease suggest a charm that I can copy and edit in order to create a charm for Tahoe-LAFS.15:05
zookoThere is one distinguished coordinating server plus any number of other servers.15:05
zookoThe other servers can come and go without any response being required on anyone's part, so there's no configuration change or anything required to add or subtract servers.15:06
zookoSo, it ought to be pretty simple.15:06
jcastrojimbaker: ^^^15:10
jimbakerzooko, you can browse the charms at http://jujucharms.com/charms - off the top of my head, i don't remember which ones have implemented a leader election (via a peer relationship) but they're out there. there's a charm helper for that15:13
jimbakerzooko, want to get together for coffee today?15:15
jimbakerzooko, probably the cassandra charm is a good place to start, see for example, http://jujucharms.com/charms/precise/cassandra/hooks/cluster-relation-joined15:17
hazmatthere's a known issue with smaller unit sequence as leader15:20
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jimbakerhazmat, so is there a bug in the cassandra charm?15:21
marcoceppithe peer.sh is still experimental as it's hard to guarantee that the leader will always exists based on lowest unit number15:21
hazmatjimbaker, yes, but its timing dependent15:22
hazmatif you add one unit, wait a while, then add more, its fine15:22
hazmatbut if you have a bunch coming up at once for the initial deploy -n 5 for example15:22
hazmatthen they may come up and not see a stable leader till unit/1 shows up15:22
zookojimbaker: thanks!15:23
zookojimbaker: it is simpler than that -- there is no leader election. The distinguished server ("introducer") is a different type of server from the others and is created specifically by the human.15:23
zookojimbaker: I'd love to! But, I can't, because I'm responsible for three boys while I work today and all this week. :-)15:23
jimbakerzooko, that makes things easier15:23
zookoAnd, I need to pack us all up for a two-month trip to Canada.15:23
zookoYes, I think Tahoe-LAFS should be fairly simple to charmify.15:24
zookoYou create one introducer, then you get a string from it which identifies it and you configure any number of storage servers, giving them that string.15:24
zookoThat's almost all that needs to be done.15:24
jimbakerzooko, sounds straightforward15:25
jcastrolynxman: you're set for reviews on Wednesday (reminder)15:40
negronjl'morning all15:47
jcastrohi!15:48
jcastroSpamapS: around?15:48
m_3negronjl: yo!15:53
negronjlm_3: 'morning15:53
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surgemcgeeHow can I get my unit out of debug mode? The debug-hooks shell quit after prolonged activiaty. Now is remains in it's perma debug state. Blah17:25
surgemcgee*in-activaty17:25
SpamapSsurgemcgee: kill the shell under tmux17:27
jcastroimbrandon: I appreciate you taking a screenshot of the HP account #'s instead of something I could copy and paste. :p19:13
imbrandonjcastro: i totaly thought i sent both, one was a joke19:13
imbrandonheh19:13
imbrandoni'm sorry if i did not send the other right behind it, twas my intention19:14
imbrandonheh19:14
jcastroit's ok, if some other random person with a close enough digit gets free HP cloud instead it's not my fault. :)19:14
imbrandonwas supose to look like yours on the wiki :)19:14
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adam_gis it currently not possible to push to / create quantal charm branches? ie, lp:~gandelman-a/charms/quantal/mysql/testing ?23:18
vilaadam_g: I ran into the same issue last week. Got no definitive answer. Let me know if you learn more (I'm not there, I'm sleeping ;)23:37

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