=== almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [09:49] hi === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === zyga is now known as zyga-afk [13:18] m_3: ping me when you're around! [13:36] jcastro: yo [13:36] greetings from Utah! [13:43] I wasted a little time the other day because a relation was in an error state and I didn't notice it in the juju status output. That got me thinking about colorizing the output to make errors pass less silently. If there that functionality is desirable, I'll cook up a branch. [13:44] I suspect it will be off by default and those who want it on will use an alias to enable it. [13:53] benji, that sounds nice.. it be nice to start to have it as a juju-jitsu command.. [13:54] benji, i always run things in emacs shells and escape codes cause foobar... but i'm probably one of a small few in that regard [13:55] hazmat: not having used juju-jitsu, what is the attraction of having that functionality there? It is a proving ground for inclusion in juju-proper? [13:55] benji, i think of it as such [13:55] yeah, as much as I like colorized output, making it the default is not really feasible [13:56] benji, the primary benefit of jitsu is it needs no coordination or acceptance, its very JFDI friendly [13:56] benji, if you want to just do it core, that also sounds good, just drop an email proposal to the list. [13:57] I'll think abotu which would be the best approach. Thanks for the input! [14:03] jamespage: you're going to europython right? [14:08] jimbaker: there's nothing left to do for the Usenix config management thing other than for you to go and execute right? === shazzner` is now known as shazzner [15:01] jcastro, correct [15:01] mramm: ^^^ I think you might both be there [15:01] jcastro: ping me once you're free, I'll be here for 3 more hours [15:05] Hi folks! [15:05] Please suggest a charm that I can copy and edit in order to create a charm for Tahoe-LAFS. [15:05] There is one distinguished coordinating server plus any number of other servers. [15:06] The other servers can come and go without any response being required on anyone's part, so there's no configuration change or anything required to add or subtract servers. [15:06] So, it ought to be pretty simple. [15:10] jimbaker: ^^^ [15:13] zooko, you can browse the charms at http://jujucharms.com/charms - off the top of my head, i don't remember which ones have implemented a leader election (via a peer relationship) but they're out there. there's a charm helper for that [15:15] zooko, want to get together for coffee today? [15:17] zooko, probably the cassandra charm is a good place to start, see for example, http://jujucharms.com/charms/precise/cassandra/hooks/cluster-relation-joined [15:20] there's a known issue with smaller unit sequence as leader === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [15:21] hazmat, so is there a bug in the cassandra charm? [15:21] the peer.sh is still experimental as it's hard to guarantee that the leader will always exists based on lowest unit number [15:22] jimbaker, yes, but its timing dependent [15:22] if you add one unit, wait a while, then add more, its fine [15:22] but if you have a bunch coming up at once for the initial deploy -n 5 for example [15:22] then they may come up and not see a stable leader till unit/1 shows up [15:23] jimbaker: thanks! [15:23] jimbaker: it is simpler than that -- there is no leader election. The distinguished server ("introducer") is a different type of server from the others and is created specifically by the human. [15:23] jimbaker: I'd love to! But, I can't, because I'm responsible for three boys while I work today and all this week. :-) [15:23] zooko, that makes things easier [15:23] And, I need to pack us all up for a two-month trip to Canada. [15:24] Yes, I think Tahoe-LAFS should be fairly simple to charmify. [15:24] You create one introducer, then you get a string from it which identifies it and you configure any number of storage servers, giving them that string. [15:24] That's almost all that needs to be done. [15:25] zooko, sounds straightforward [15:40] lynxman: you're set for reviews on Wednesday (reminder) [15:47] 'morning all [15:48] hi! [15:48] SpamapS: around? [15:53] negronjl: yo! [15:53] m_3: 'morning === ahasenack is now known as Guest47924 [17:25] How can I get my unit out of debug mode? The debug-hooks shell quit after prolonged activiaty. Now is remains in it's perma debug state. Blah [17:25] *in-activaty [17:27] surgemcgee: kill the shell under tmux [19:13] imbrandon: I appreciate you taking a screenshot of the HP account #'s instead of something I could copy and paste. :p [19:13] jcastro: i totaly thought i sent both, one was a joke [19:13] heh [19:14] i'm sorry if i did not send the other right behind it, twas my intention [19:14] heh [19:14] it's ok, if some other random person with a close enough digit gets free HP cloud instead it's not my fault. :) [19:14] was supose to look like yours on the wiki :) === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === Guest47924 is now known as ahasenack [23:18] is it currently not possible to push to / create quantal charm branches? ie, lp:~gandelman-a/charms/quantal/mysql/testing ? [23:37] adam_g: I ran into the same issue last week. Got no definitive answer. Let me know if you learn more (I'm not there, I'm sleeping ;)