[00:40] <igorov> hi all
[01:18] <satorisanja> Guten Morgen
[06:53] <Guest1894> ??
[06:54] <Guest1894> kubuntu in spanish
[06:54] <susundberg> Guest1894: see http://www.ubuntu-es.org/
[06:55] <susundberg> dont know if there is #kubuntu-es or #ubuntu-es, you might want try those out
[06:55] <Guest1894> thanks
[06:56] <susundberg> np!
[07:04] <jxjl> good morning, I have one problem with nfs I have nfs server configured in fstab like nas:public      /mnt/nas        nfs     hard,intr,user,auto     0       0 in kubuntu 11.10 I could see it under device notifer, but in 12.04 I can't, how to configure device notifer to show this device allowing simply mount it and unmount it?
[07:04] <bowo> tes
[07:04] <bowo> tes
[07:04] <bowo> tus
[07:04] <bowo> mumet aku
[07:04] <FloodBotK1> bowo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:18] <CruX|> hello
[09:18] <CruX|> in my 12.04 LDS krusader is very slow
[09:18] <CruX|> if I press enter on directory this dir is opened in 1-2 seconds !!!!!!!
[09:19] <CruX|> what is krusader doing ?
[09:27] <gini> crux - it's a file manager
[09:30] <CruX|> gini: i know
[09:30] <gini> cool
[09:31] <CruX|> in kubuntu 10.10 everything was fine
[09:31] <CruX|> in 12.04 something is fucked
[09:34] <Tm_T> CruX|: language, please
[11:40] <kai3uoDu> Hallo leute
[11:40] <kai3uoDu> ich hab da ne kleine frage:
[11:41] <lordievader> !german | kai3uoDu
[11:41] <kai3uoDu> Okay, sry
[11:45] <ubuntujuhth> klo
[12:01] <ubuntujuhth> klo
[12:45] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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[12:48] <liudas> BluesKaj: welcome :)
[12:50] <emperor234> hello
[12:50] <emperor234> i need help
[12:50] <szal> !help | emperor234
[12:57] <emperor234> my friends ... how activate compiz in kubuntu 12.04 ??
[12:57] <lordievader> emperor234: We got kwin for that, look in System Settings -> Desktop Effects.
[13:01] <emperor234> im use sudo compiz --replace and work !!!
[13:02] <lordievader> Is compiz even compatible with kde?
[13:02] <emperor234> i dont now
[13:02] <emperor234> sorry my english is very bad ...
[13:03] <lordievader> emperor234: Anyhow it is probably safer to just use kwin. Does most things that compiz does.
[13:23] <Oxymoron> In some mysterious way, I think when I tried to isntall Bank ID my user was removed from sudoers list though it modified it. Now I cannot do anything and I cannot change back, as it requires sudo rights ... So what the h*ll shall i do?
[13:24] <lordievader> Oxymoron: Edit the file through a live cd?
[13:24] <Oxymoron> lordievader: Is that really neessary?
[13:25] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, suso visudo doesn't open it?
[13:25] <lordievader> Oxymoron: It is the easiest way I can think of right now.
[13:25] <Oxymoron> I cannot understand how this even is possible. I havent done any weird things.
[13:25] <BluesKaj> err sudo visudo
[13:25] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: lol, not because sudo requires me to be in sudoers list ...
[13:25] <BluesKaj> in the terminal
[13:26] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: Yes in terminal.
[13:26] <Oxymoron> I got user *** does not appear to be in sudoers list.
[13:26] <Oxymoron> lordievader: How can this even happen?
[13:27] <lordievader> Oxymoron: No idea...
[13:27] <Oxymoron> lordievader: You have rights and secutiry in Linux so nothing can change things if you do not let it.
[13:28] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, keep a backup
[13:28] <Oxymoron> I guess I need herd.
[13:28] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: Backup of?
[13:28] <BluesKaj> the sudoers
[13:29] <BluesKaj> then you can restore it with the live cd
[13:29] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: Even if I had, I would need sudoer rights to replace current one with the backup ...
[13:29] <lordievader> Oxymoron: Not if you are in the live-cd
[13:30] <Oxymoron> I chekced now and it seems like /etc/sudoers file is empty.
[13:30] <Oxymoron> There I lost my trust against Linux security.
[13:31] <Oxymoron> Cannot even restore this without a LiveCD. So much struggeling with LiveCD on USB stick.
[13:32] <lordievader> Oxymoron: That is why i allways keep a livecd laying around. In such cases :) (with me it is more fstab though)
[13:32] <Oxymoron> lordievader: I have LiveCD and USB. But I do not wnat to use it as it sucks. I want to fix it directly in Kubuntu desktop environment in terminal.
[13:34] <oCean> Oxymoron: you can boot your current install in rescue mode
[13:35] <Oxymoron> Find now that you can do it by using restore mode in Grub.
[13:35] <oCean> you will be dropped in a root shell
[13:35] <Oxymoron> oCean: Yes just found it, thanks good tip :) But what commands do I need to remember in my head?
[13:35] <Oxymoron> chmod, nano /etc/sudoers? more?
[13:35] <oCean> Oxymoron: also, if a 3rd party software install emptied your sudoers, that has nothing to do with general Linux security
[13:36] <oCean> Oxymoron: use visudo command, since that does a syntax check on exit
[13:37] <Oxymoron> oCean: What kind of 3rd party software could do that?
[13:38] <oCean> quote:  when I tried to isntall Bank ID my user was removed from sudoers lis
[13:39] <Oxymoron> oCean: I said I THINK it removed. Because in install it said I was not in sudoers list.
[13:39] <Oxymoron> But it has worked after that, so probably not that anyway.
[13:39] <Oxymoron> Some other crap breaked it. Could be some system update recently.
[13:39] <oCean> no
[13:39] <ikonia> no it's not
[13:40] <lordievader> If it would be an update, there would be more people with the problem.
[13:40] <Oxymoron> Havent installed anything else since that.
[13:40] <oCean> Oxymoron: what *could* be is that you tried to edit and made a mistake in trying to figure out why you got that notice ".. not in sudoers file"
[13:40] <Oxymoron> btw, what is the problem with kmix? It has been broken very long time now.
[13:40] <ikonia> Oxymoron: have you logged a bug
[13:40] <Oxymoron> oCean: No I didnt do anything to it.
[13:41] <ikonia> Oxymoron: please show me the output of ls -la /etc/sudoers
[13:41] <oCean> Oxymoron: ok, if you guarantee you did not do it, I guarantee updates did not do it
[13:41] <Oxymoron> ikonia: "-r--r----- 1 root root 723 jan 31 16:56 /etc/sudoers"
[13:41] <ikonia> Oxymoron: so that file has not been modified since january
[13:41] <Oxymoron> ikonia: Yeah ...
[13:42] <ikonia> Oxymoron: please show me the output of the command "id"
[13:42] <Oxymoron> ikonia: uid=1000(joel) gid=1000(joel) grupper=1000(joel),5(tty)
[13:42] <ikonia> there you go
[13:42] <ikonia> that is your issue
[13:42] <ikonia> your user is not in the admin group
[13:42] <oCean> also, that is not an empty file
[13:42] <ikonia> your sudoers file has not been touched
[13:42] <Oxymoron> ikonia: Alright, well I havent removed myself from admin group ...
[13:42] <ikonia> Oxymoron: that is also why your sounds is probably messed up
[13:42] <Oxymoron> So something else removed me.
[13:42] <ikonia> you are not a memeber of the audio gruop
[13:43] <ikonia> Oxymoron: who added you to the grupper group ?
[13:43] <ikonia> ooh, that's german for group
[13:43] <ikonia> sorry
[13:43] <Oxymoron> ikonia: Do you know how to add myself to both admin and audio?
[13:43] <Oxymoron> ikonia: Swedish
[13:43] <oCean> .. and some more default groups
[13:43] <ikonia> Oxymoron: you'll need to boot into single user mode (recovery mode) and use the command usermod
[13:43] <ikonia> Oxymoron: it would appear somewhere along the line you have changed your group settings or modified the group/password file
[13:45] <Oxymoron> ikonia: Yes probably. But as far as i remember I havent changed anything there.
[13:46] <Oxymoron> ikonia: But shall I just do command usermod?
[13:46] <ikonia> Oxymoron: usermode -G joel,admin,users,audio,tty joel
[13:46] <ikonia> that should be enough to get you moving
[13:47] <ikonia> then you can use the useradmin gui to add/remove what you want
[13:47] <Oxymoron> ikonia: Alright, thanks :) Now I will finally fix this crap :P
[13:47] <ikonia> it's not crap
[13:47] <ikonia> it's user error
[13:48] <Oxymoron> ikonia: Well I havent done it. And it shouldnt even be possible IMO to break it like that.
[13:48] <ikonia> you have
[13:48] <ikonia> it is user error, you have removed yourself from the admin group
[13:48] <ikonia> and of course it should be possible to break it like that
[13:49] <Oxymoron> Why would I remove myself from admin group? :D
[13:49] <ikonia> sudoers depends on the admin group, if you remove yourself from it, you will break it
[13:49] <Oxymoron> anyway thanks, I will fix this now. I do not want to argue about this anymore. Thanks for all help.
[13:49] <Oxymoron> my bad I guess
[13:51] <BluesKaj> he digs himself into more holes than anyone I can think of ...he'll be back soon
[13:51] <ikonia> I know
[13:51] <ikonia> I don't mind "I'm having a bad problem"
[13:52] <lordievader> That is something inexperience can get you...
[13:52] <ikonia> but the constant ranting about how poor and insecure linux is....that turns out to be user error is getting very old
[13:52] <BluesKaj> you can make a suggestion to him and he ends up arguing about it
[13:52] <lordievader> ikonia: Every time a human says it is a computer error, 90% of the time it is a user error.
[13:53] <Oxymoron> Sorry one more question. I boot from Windows MBR (Wubi) and I didnt get into grub menu where to choose rescue mode. How to enter rescue mode after I pressed Kubuntu from Windows MBR menu?
[13:53] <jussi> What is the recommended way to reset my kde settings to default? (and if anyone says to remove my .kde I shall shoot them)
[13:54] <Oxymoron> jussi: lol :D
[13:54] <ikonia> Oxymoron: wubi, I have no iddea
[13:54] <Tm_T> jussi: what settings? I believe on ~every configuration section on system settings have this "reset to defaults" button at the bottom left
[13:54] <Oxymoron> ikonia: One option is to boot into Windows and modify MBR to boot into grub. But requires double reboot ...
[13:54] <ikonia> idea even
[13:54] <lordievader> jussi: Oke I won't say remove, but move :P Why don't you want to do that, the whole removing thing?
[13:55] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, you're running wubi and you didn't even mention that
[13:55] <jussi> Tm_T: I want my default desktop back. so all of them, but not application settigns.
[13:55] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: Well I didnt think it was important ... but I realised it now.
[13:55] <jussi> lordievader: mail gone, other data gone
[13:55] <jussi> no thanks
[13:55] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, never assume
[13:56] <jussi> I dont want all my applications reset, just my kde desktop
[13:56] <Tm_T> jussi: so plasma, widgets and windowmanager, I'd use the "reset to defaults" button on those parts, or remove the related files
[13:56] <lordievader> jussi: That is what I would say, remove the related files.
[13:56] <Oxymoron> lordievader: Well user error can also mean it is user error from devs aka bug ...
[13:56] <lordievader> Or move or rename.
[13:56] <jussi> oh, and while we are at it, can I have oxygen back also :/
[13:56] <Tm_T> jussi: if you go removing files, you better be logged out from the desktop while doing that
[13:57] <lordievader> Oxymoron: See user error. The computer will just compute numbers.
[13:57] <jussi> Tm_T: IM not removing anything, I want the real way - so where are these reset to defaults you talk about ?
[13:57] <Tm_T> jussi: which oxygen? oxygen plasma theme? oxygen widget theme? oxygen window theme? oxygen icon theme? (:
[13:57] <Oxymoron> jussi: I also wondered about that. If everything freaks up, I want to reset everything, except user apps. Restore all root apps, configs and desktop. but not my own settings.
[13:58] <jussi> Tm_T: sorry, should have been clearer. the widget style is missing from the list
[13:58] <Oxymoron> lordievader: Yes, computer is dumb and only work binaries back and forth. What I meant is that it automaticly is my or any other persons fault if things like kmix is broken for instance. It can be my fault, but it doesnt need to be.
[13:59] <Tm_T> jussi: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/jussi-reset.png see the bottom left corner? it has a button "defaults" (:
[13:59] <jussi> Tm_T: ie. system settings -> application appearance -> style
[13:59] <Tm_T> yup
[14:00] <Tm_T> jussi: is kde-style-oxygen installed?
[14:00] <jussi> Tm_T: unfortunately that puts it back to plastique... :/
[14:01] <jussi> Reading state information... Done
[14:01] <jussi> kde-style-oxygen is already the newest version.
[14:01] <Tm_T> jussi: if that package is installed, is /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/oxygen/metadata.desktop there?
[14:01] <jussi> yes
[14:02] <Tm_T> hmmm, interesting
[14:02] <Tm_T> what changes if you reinstall that package and relogin after that? (:
[14:02] <Tm_T> gotta jump to bus, back in a moment or few
[14:13] <robotdevil> is there a way to make mouse back and forward control dolphin
[14:15] <Tm_T> jussi: any luck?
[14:17] <jussi> Tm_T: nope
[14:19] <Tm_T> very interesting
[14:19] <Tm_T> jussi: and it appears just fine when you try it with newly created user account?
[14:22] <jussi> Tm_T: not sure, havent tried creating one yet
[14:23] <Tm_T> try, that's an easy test to see if it's systemwide or just your settings
[14:25] <Oxymoron> Hi, my touchpad doesnt work and I cannot do anything graphicly. How to restore touchpad?
[14:25] <Oxymoron> It broke from latest upgrades
[14:27] <Oxymoron> Seriously my system fails more annd more.
[14:28] <Oxymoron> Cannot even reboot from terminal ...
[14:28] <HelenB> Okay I try to connect to my computer via bluetooth and it fails. Both computer and phone are paired and my phone is marked as trusted on my computer. What do I do?
[14:28] <HelenB> Yes I'm obviously using BlueDevil.
[14:30] <HelenB> Oxymoron: lol
[14:31] <ikonia> HelenB: what application are you using to connect /
[14:31] <HelenB> ikonia, <HelenB> Yes I'm obviously using BlueDevil
[14:31] <HelenB> My phone is an LG Pop
[14:31] <ikonia> ok, I'm not aware of that application, what's the actual issue ?
[14:32] <HelenB> ikonia, <HelenB> Okay I try to connect to my computer via bluetooth and it fails
[14:32] <HelenB> It just wont connect
[14:32] <HelenB> that's as detailed as I can get it
[14:32] <ikonia> HelenB: you said it was already paired, so it has already connected at a high level
[14:33] <ikonia> so what are you doing when you say "connecT"
[14:33] <HelenB> yes
[14:33] <HelenB> but then when I click connect on my phone
[14:33] <HelenB> it wont connect
[14:33] <HelenB> it fails
[14:33] <ikonia> connect on your phone ?
[14:33] <ikonia> what does connect actually do ?
[14:33] <ikonia> in terms of functionality
[14:33] <HelenB> connect to my computer from my phone
[14:33] <ikonia> it's already connected, so what does the connect actually do
[14:34] <HelenB> ikonia, Every phone I've known wants to connect after it's paired
[14:35] <ikonia> can you please define what "connect" does
[14:35] <HelenB> idk
[14:35] <Tm_T> hmm, checks other end's services perhaps
[14:35] <ikonia> normally you'll use individual applications, or section of applications to access data on the phone
[14:35] <HelenB> Tm_T, tried
[14:35] <ikonia> connect appears to be a generic phrase which isn't doing anything
[14:35] <HelenB> ikonia, I want to browse the files of my computer
[14:35] <robotdevil> so my computer is not set to install updates without confirmation or anything like that I know of, and without clicking on any update/package manager the computer wanted password
[14:36] <ikonia> if you said "I'm trying to open the phone's ram as a file system" I'd understand that
[14:36] <HelenB> My computer is set to allow that
[14:36] <ikonia> have you looked if you phone is compatible ?
[14:36] <HelenB> No
[14:36] <HelenB> I'm trying to browse the computers Public files
[14:36] <HelenB> My phone is compatible
[14:37] <HelenB> I've done this in the past
[14:37] <ikonia> ok, so you've phones browser functionliaty will need to use a protocol/application to query your computers file system
[14:37] <ikonia> HelenB: ok, so you've used this same phone to do this on kubuntu before ?
[14:37] <ikonia> (or same make/model I should say)
[14:37] <HelenB> Fedora
[14:37] <ikonia> ok, fedora, using the same tool ?
[14:37] <HelenB> yes
[14:37] <ikonia> can you check the versions of the product on each system, see if they are reasonably close ?
[14:38] <HelenB> I don't have Fedora anymore
[14:38] <ikonia> no, but you can check the version that comes with the version you where using
[14:38] <HelenB> I can't remember which version of Fedora I was using.
[14:39] <ikonia> then you need to check it
[14:39] <HelenB> I can't because I can't remember.
[14:39] <ikonia> gathering the info is something you need to take responsability
[14:39]  * HelenB sighs
[14:39] <ikonia> sighing won't help
[14:39] <HelenB> I had Fedora years ago, okay?
[14:39] <ikonia> getting useful information will
[14:39] <ikonia> ok, so this same phone used to work with the same kde application years ago ?
[14:40] <ikonia> (on fedora)
[14:40] <HelenB> It was a gnome app that I used years ago
[14:40] <ikonia> right
[14:40] <HelenB> the bluetooth utility that comes bundled with gnome
[14:40] <ikonia> so when I asked earlier if you had it working with kubuntu...and you said "yes on fedora" that implies kde
[14:40] <ikonia> so checking the phone compatability list with the kde application set is worth doing
[14:41] <ikonia> gnome compatability has no relevence to kde compatability
[14:41] <HelenB> I don't get why I'd need to check compatibility
[14:42] <HelenB> I thought all phones were compatible
[14:42] <ikonia> well, seeing a device is compatible is the first step
[14:42] <ikonia> no, they are not
[14:42] <ikonia> they will be compatible with the bluetooth protocol which is "connection"
[14:42] <ikonia> but the applications need to interact with the phone to offer/give data
[14:42] <HelenB> I'm able to send and recieve files on both ends
[14:43] <ikonia> ? and
[14:43] <HelenB> just not browse them
[14:43] <ikonia> is send/recieve files the same application component as browse ?
[14:44] <HelenB> ikonia, Sorry I'm a noob.
[14:44] <ikonia> no need to be sorry
[14:44] <ikonia> it's not a problem to be new
[14:44] <ikonia> It's a little tricky as I don't know the application you are using personally
[14:47] <ikonia> HelenB: is the bluedevil application used to manage the connection, or does it have the ability to do things, such as pull files from the phone etc
[14:47] <HelenB> ikonia, It's a bluetooth manager
[14:47] <HelenB> and yes I can send/receive with it
[14:47] <ikonia> so it only just manages the connection
[14:47] <ikonia> it doesn't actually do anything
[14:47] <ikonia> oh, it does ?
[14:48] <HelenB> It does.
[14:49] <ikonia> can you browse your phone's file system from it ?
[14:49] <HelenB> No
[14:49] <HelenB> but BlueDevil has settings for that.
[14:49] <HelenB> and I've enabled them
[14:49] <ikonia> does that work ?
[14:50] <HelenB> not so far
[14:51] <ikonia> ok, so that suggests that, the browse functionliaty may either need configuring or it doesn't work
[14:51] <ikonia> as you can't go either way
[15:31] <rangergord> hi
[15:32] <rangergord> why would the kftpgrabber package, described as "FTP client for KDE", require me to download tons of Gnome and Mono libs?
[15:38] <rangergord> nm, I know why. considering kftpgrabber crashed during a simple file transfer, I can safely assume it's just a poorly-coded POS. :)
[15:38] <io_> qualcuno parla italiano???
[15:39] <io_> no vero???
[15:39] <lordievader> !italian | io_
[15:39] <io_> -_-
[15:40] <io_> thanks
[15:40] <lordievader> io_: No problem :)
[16:21] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[16:21] <Flporter> does the kubuntu installer support btrfs as rootfs?
[17:51] <Alumin> is there any way to get Apper to stop notifying me of the pending Precise update every 5 minutes?
[17:54] <BluesKaj> Alumin, system settings>application and system notifications>other notifications, uncheck upgrade information
[17:55] <Alumin> cool, thanks
[17:56] <Alumin> didn't necessarily want to disable it entirely, but that frequency is just too much :)
[17:56] <Alumin> ...and, it just did it again :P
[17:57] <BluesKaj> Alumin, sometimes it takes a relogin for these settings to stick
[17:57] <Alumin> ok
[17:58] <onet> Hi, its possible run script from ksnapshot? example: ./upload.py /tmp/imagetakenftomksnapshot?
[18:38] <riccardo> ciao
[19:12]  * crack05 is away (Gone)
[19:27] <fasta> What's the exact command that get's executed when 'open terminal here' is pressed?
[19:37] <lordievader> fasta: Probably something like cd <path-to-dir>
[19:37] <fasta> lordievader: I already know the answer and no.
[19:37] <lordievader> fasta: What is it then?
[19:38] <fasta> lordievader: konsole --workdir %f
[19:39] <lordievader> Ok, well good to know :)
[20:11] <MKay2> is there a german channel for kubuntu?
[20:12] <Pici> MKay2: #kubuntu-de
[20:12] <MKay2> thx
[20:14] <onet> i have problem with default browser
[20:14] <onet> how to set firefox?
[20:16] <Hamra> System Settings ==> default applications ==> Web Browser
[20:18] <onet> Hamra: i have firefox there
[20:18] <onet> but if i type x-www-browser in console, then start reconq
[20:18] <onet> how to set firefox to x-www-browser?
[20:24] <Hamra> onet: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[20:24] <genii-around> Yup
[20:25] <onet> i have there on 0 and 1 firefox
[20:25] <onet> but always open 2 - reconq ;/
[20:27] <onet> thanks
[20:27] <onet> its work now
[20:27] <Hamra> you're welcome :)
[20:38] <openos> Hi EveryOne ???
[20:38] <openos> Why I can't Install Deb files In Kubuntu
[20:39] <openos> When i Try To Install for example Google chrome Deb
[20:39] <openos> The gdeb said finish but nothing installed In My System
[20:41] <openos> Help ??
[20:43] <AngelForget> openos, you need the welp?
[20:44] <openos> I Need The Help
[20:44] <openos> Why I can't Install Deb files In Kubuntu
[20:44] <AngelForget> install gdebi
[20:45] <openos> I Already Have Gdebi
[20:46] <openos> But When I try to Install Somthing she Said Finished But Nothing Installed On My System
[20:47] <AngelForget> ummm............is strange
[20:47] <openos> Can You Help
[20:54] <elepage> Anyone know how to add an LDAP address book? I don't have the LDAP entry in "Add address book"
[21:55] <JMichael|work> i was hoping that the upgrade to 4.8.3 would reduce the crashiness of the netbook UI on my dell mini 9, but it did not. additionally, it is seeming a good bit more sluggish now
[23:03] <kaddi> downgrade from 12.04 to 11.10 isn't really possible, right? I would have to do a fresh install
[23:04] <mydogsnameisrudy> what is wrong with your 12.04
[23:04] <kaddi> it keeps crashing, skype doesn't work. luminosity-changes aren't applied
[23:05] <kaddi> amarok is going crazy, crashing regularly
[23:05] <mydogsnameisrudy> hmmm and you have tryed to fix that im taking it
[23:05] <mydogsnameisrudy> wow
[23:05] <kaddi> well i started trying to fix it, but it's just getting too much
[23:05] <kaddi> 11.10 was working flawlessly
[23:05] <kaddi> i'm really regretting the upgrade
[23:05] <kaddi> and honestly
[23:06] <mydogsnameisrudy> well looks like youll have to reinstall  to get back i guess
[23:06] <kaddi> it's not like there wer some ground-breaking changes under the hood
[23:06] <kaddi> i don't quite see why so much had to break
[23:06] <mydogsnameisrudy> did you do the upgrade to 12.04
[23:06] <kaddi> yeah
[23:07] <kaddi> about 3 weeks ago
[23:07] <kaddi> so not immediately after
[23:07] <mydogsnameisrudy> hmmm well wonder if you did a fresh install of 12.04 it would work
[23:08] <mydogsnameisrudy> might not want to go thru that tho
[23:08] <kaddi> if I have to reinstall, I'll go with something I know to be working, i think ;p
[23:09] <mydogsnameisrudy> i guess i would too
[23:11] <kaddi> well not tonight that's for sure.. I kinda hope it'll fix itself with the updates at some point
[23:12] <mydogsnameisrudy> well have fun with it anyway ;)
[23:12] <kaddi> hehe, i'll try :p
[23:12] <kaddi> thanks and goodnight
[23:12] <mydogsnameisrudy> yep