[12:12] <gary_poster> bac benji frankban https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/8ef284571d4d361571b8b2084a9b9bfb13f0ae1f
[12:12] <gary_poster> we'll start as soon as everyone joins
[12:13] <gary_poster> bac, ping
[12:31] <bac> gary_poster: if you make a new blog be sure to add it to http://planet.launchpad.net/
[12:31] <gary_poster> bac, agreed
[12:34] <gary_poster> sadly, goldenhorde.com is not available.  OTOH, goldenhorde.xxx is.
[12:38] <benji> gary_poster: I am disappointed, that's the first time my domain-name-checker of choice has misled me
[12:38] <gary_poster> :-)
[12:38] <benji> there's always yellowblather.com
[12:39] <gary_poster> heh
[12:40] <benji> gary_poster: yellowsquad.com looks like an obvious (and available) choice
[12:41] <gary_poster> benji, goldensquad too
[12:42] <gary_poster> lol, or goldencheer.com
[12:42] <benji> heh
[12:42]  * gary_poster is somewhat tempted by that one
[12:43] <benji> sounds japanese
[12:44] <gary_poster> oops
[12:44] <benji> goldencheer.com sounds japanese
[12:44] <benji> we can start doing group calisthenics before work every morning
[12:44] <gary_poster> lol, that would be a good thing for me
[12:44] <benji> grr, my no-beeps-when-on-battery thing is back
[12:44] <gary_poster> :-/
[12:44]  * benji plugs in his AC-powered beep generator
[12:46] <gary_poster> lol, sunnycheer.com is available too
[12:46]  * gary_poster is really being productive
[12:49] <benji> heh
[12:50] <gary_poster> frankban, approved expenses btw
[12:51] <frankban> thanks gary_poster
[13:00] <gary_poster> welcome
[16:54] <gary_poster> Now is the time I have to babysit
[16:55] <gary_poster> I'm not sure how long this will be; could be an hour, likely to be 1.5 hours, could be 2 hours.  So...I should be back no later than 3 or so my time, and hopefully sooner
[17:12] <frankban> benji: when you have time, could you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~frankban/launchpad/bug-1001520-memcache-warnings/+merge/108592 ? No rush, EOD, have a nice evening!
[17:12] <benji> frankban: sure.  Enjoy your evening.
benji, this is pretty deep, but if you have your thinking cap on tight you might be able to review this one when you get a chance: https://code.launchpad.net/~gary/launchpad/bug1007576/+merge/108609</sarcasm>
[18:48] <gary_poster> benji, ^^^ your ping machine may not have liked my angle brackets.  (Or your ping machine may be broken.)
[18:57] <benji> gary_poster: or I was eating lunch :)
[18:58] <gary_poster> benji, :-) or that
[18:59] <benji> gary_poster: approved
[18:59] <gary_poster> thanks.  one nice thing about being the squad that runs the parallel tests is that we can use the system to test our branches :-)
[18:59] <gary_poster> So, tests have passed!
[19:09] <benji> cool
[19:24] <gary_poster> Our first green build in weeks.  Count that as a grim-lipped "yay!"
[19:36] <benji> :)
[20:18] <gary_poster> Two! Two! Two Green Builds!  Ah Ha Ha Ha!
[20:22] <bac> \0/
[20:22] <gary_poster> :-)
[20:23] <bac> gary_poster, benji: can you two 'splain to be about __str__ and __repr__?  i thought i understood but clearly i don't.  for reference: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1023893/
[20:23] <bac> why would str(test) not be the same as 'print test' and 'print test.__str__()'?
[20:24] <gary_poster> That is a surprise to me as well.  I am googling
[20:25] <bac> i thought 'print x' calls x.__str__
[20:27] <gary_poster> me 2. and that's what docs seem to say
[20:28] <gary_poster> http://docs.python.org/reference/datamodel.html
[20:28] <gary_poster> bac, maybe a proxy of some sort is screwing things up
[20:29] <bac> hmm
[20:29] <gary_poster> bac, try type(whatever)
[20:30] <bac> looks unsuspicious: <class 'doctest.DocFileCase'>
[20:31] <gary_poster> bac, ok.  I'll try to think of other options...
[20:36] <gary_poster> bac, what is producing the output of print test?  is it the same as repr?
[20:36] <gary_poster> bac, out of paranoia I verified experimentally that __str__ did what I understood/expected. It did, in the REPL
[20:36] <bac> gary_poster: yes, i think it is the same as repr
[20:37] <gary_poster> bac, you could try "debug print test" and see what happens
[20:37] <gary_poster> in pdb
[20:37] <bac> oh
[20:37] <gary_poster> that won't show you c of course
[20:37] <gary_poster> but might give you something
[20:38] <bac> hmm, that wasn't very exciting
[20:38] <bac> didn't really show anything
[20:38] <gary_poster> where did it go?
[20:38] <gary_poster> did you step in?
[20:38] <gary_poster> would you like to pair for 22 minutes?
[20:39] <bac> it is calling repr
[20:39] <bac> sure are you tb compliant?
[20:39] <gary_poster> heh, will verify
[20:39] <bac> "Do you have TB?"
[20:39] <gary_poster> :-)
[20:40] <gary_poster> I have an old version.   updating to new packaged stuff...
[20:40] <bac> there was an interesting story on Radio Lab about Typhoid Mary this weekend
[20:40] <bac> Her signature dish was "Peach Melba" -- raw peaches and ice cream.  perfect vector.
[20:40] <gary_poster> heh
[20:41] <gary_poster> oh pooh
[20:41] <gary_poster> currently in the middile of another install
[20:41] <gary_poster> let's just hangout and share screen
[20:42] <bac> ok
[20:42] <gary_poster> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/aebeaee493c414847842e2ca89af2955504b7fca
[20:45] <gary_poster> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1023923/
[21:18] <gary_poster> night all