[12:12] bac benji frankban https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/8ef284571d4d361571b8b2084a9b9bfb13f0ae1f [12:12] we'll start as soon as everyone joins [12:13] bac, ping [12:31] gary_poster: if you make a new blog be sure to add it to http://planet.launchpad.net/ [12:31] bac, agreed [12:34] sadly, goldenhorde.com is not available. OTOH, goldenhorde.xxx is. [12:38] gary_poster: I am disappointed, that's the first time my domain-name-checker of choice has misled me [12:38] :-) [12:38] there's always yellowblather.com [12:39] heh [12:40] gary_poster: yellowsquad.com looks like an obvious (and available) choice [12:41] benji, goldensquad too [12:42] lol, or goldencheer.com [12:42] heh [12:42] * gary_poster is somewhat tempted by that one [12:43] sounds japanese [12:44] oops [12:44] goldencheer.com sounds japanese [12:44] we can start doing group calisthenics before work every morning [12:44] lol, that would be a good thing for me [12:44] grr, my no-beeps-when-on-battery thing is back [12:44] :-/ [12:44] * benji plugs in his AC-powered beep generator [12:46] lol, sunnycheer.com is available too [12:46] * gary_poster is really being productive [12:49] heh [12:50] frankban, approved expenses btw [12:51] thanks gary_poster [13:00] welcome [16:54] Now is the time I have to babysit [16:55] I'm not sure how long this will be; could be an hour, likely to be 1.5 hours, could be 2 hours. So...I should be back no later than 3 or so my time, and hopefully sooner [17:12] benji: when you have time, could you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~frankban/launchpad/bug-1001520-memcache-warnings/+merge/108592 ? No rush, EOD, have a nice evening! [17:12] frankban: sure. Enjoy your evening. [18:38] benji, this is pretty deep, but if you have your thinking cap on tight you might be able to review this one when you get a chance: https://code.launchpad.net/~gary/launchpad/bug1007576/+merge/108609 [18:48] benji, ^^^ your ping machine may not have liked my angle brackets. (Or your ping machine may be broken.) [18:57] gary_poster: or I was eating lunch :) [18:58] benji, :-) or that [18:59] gary_poster: approved [18:59] thanks. one nice thing about being the squad that runs the parallel tests is that we can use the system to test our branches :-) [18:59] So, tests have passed! [19:09] cool [19:24] Our first green build in weeks. Count that as a grim-lipped "yay!" [19:36] :) [20:18] Two! Two! Two Green Builds! Ah Ha Ha Ha! [20:22] \0/ [20:22] :-) [20:23] gary_poster, benji: can you two 'splain to be about __str__ and __repr__? i thought i understood but clearly i don't. for reference: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1023893/ [20:23] why would str(test) not be the same as 'print test' and 'print test.__str__()'? [20:24] That is a surprise to me as well. I am googling [20:25] i thought 'print x' calls x.__str__ [20:27] me 2. and that's what docs seem to say [20:28] http://docs.python.org/reference/datamodel.html [20:28] bac, maybe a proxy of some sort is screwing things up [20:29] hmm [20:29] bac, try type(whatever) [20:30] looks unsuspicious: [20:31] bac, ok. I'll try to think of other options... [20:36] bac, what is producing the output of print test? is it the same as repr? [20:36] bac, out of paranoia I verified experimentally that __str__ did what I understood/expected. It did, in the REPL [20:36] gary_poster: yes, i think it is the same as repr [20:37] bac, you could try "debug print test" and see what happens [20:37] in pdb [20:37] oh [20:37] that won't show you c of course [20:37] but might give you something [20:38] hmm, that wasn't very exciting [20:38] didn't really show anything [20:38] where did it go? [20:38] did you step in? [20:38] would you like to pair for 22 minutes? [20:39] it is calling repr [20:39] sure are you tb compliant? [20:39] heh, will verify [20:39] "Do you have TB?" [20:39] :-) [20:40] I have an old version. updating to new packaged stuff... [20:40] there was an interesting story on Radio Lab about Typhoid Mary this weekend [20:40] Her signature dish was "Peach Melba" -- raw peaches and ice cream. perfect vector. [20:40] heh [20:41] oh pooh [20:41] currently in the middile of another install [20:41] let's just hangout and share screen [20:42] ok [20:42] https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/aebeaee493c414847842e2ca89af2955504b7fca [20:45] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1023923/ [21:18] night all