[00:08] <brokenfingers> penguin42: bug 667819 Should I un-Triage this, possibly ua-assign the asignee? I forwarded it upstream.
[00:08] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 667819 in thunderbird "get-orig-source target is failing to clean binary files from the source tarball" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/667819
[00:09]  * penguin42 looks 
[00:10] <penguin42> brokenfingers: On your previous question, base it on what that page says - it's just got to give people confidence you know what you're doing
[00:11] <brokenfingers> penguin42: What do you mean?
[00:11] <penguin42> brokenfingers: I mean you don't have to be specific about having upstreamed something or not
[00:12] <brokenfingers> Oh. On my application? Or the bug I was referring to?
[00:13] <penguin42> brokenfingers: now, on 667819 - I wouldn't have upstreamed that because  1) It's a long time since it happened so it's worth 1st checking if it still does   2) My reading of it is that it looks like it's a packaging issue, probably ubuntu or debian specific, not upstream  oh and   3) It's chris who knows what he's doing in stuff, so if he put it in and marked it as triaged just trust him
[00:15] <brokenfingers> penguin42: Okay, do I just delete the upstream bug I reported? I cant seem to find many other bugs i can upstream tho
[00:15] <penguin42> brokenfingers: Don't worry - don't upstream for the heck of it, just do it to stuff you're confident you understand
[00:16] <brokenfingers> penguin42: Okay, so your saying I can still get bug control w/o upstreaming?
[00:17] <penguin42> brokenfingers: It might be better to wait a while - just go slowly
[00:17] <penguin42> brokenfingers: Get a feel for when upstreaming is right, and if it makes sense to you do it
[00:17] <brokenfingers> penguin42: Good Idea.
[00:21] <penguin42> brokenfingers: Generally if it's assigned leave it unless you think something is very odd about it, especially if it's assigned to someone at ubuntu.com or canonical.com or who looks like they do a lot of stuff
[00:22] <brokenfingers> penguin42: you're right. It's just that some new users will assign themselves to something and take over but never use LP again and leave everyone hanging
[00:24] <penguin42> yeh, you also get used to names who you know they're always involved with stuff so they're bugs are probably right
[00:26] <brokenfingers> penguin42: Like Brian Murray, Colin Watson, Martain Pitt :)
[00:27] <penguin42> nod
[00:27] <brokenfingers> I'll definitely take the advice.
[00:35] <brokenfingers> penguin42: Ok, my bug in bugzilla just got a reply from Chris. He status to resolved and resolution to invalid. I do what??? *confused*
[00:36] <penguin42> can you just point me back at it?
[00:36] <brokenfingers> bug 667819 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=761037
[00:36] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 667819 in thunderbird "get-orig-source target is failing to clean binary files from the source tarball" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/667819
[00:36] <ubot2`> Mozilla bug 761037 in Installer "get-orig-source target is failing to clean binary files from the source tarball" [Normal,Resolved: invalid]
[00:36] <micahg> that might have been fixed already
[00:37] <micahg> who said to upstream that?
[00:37] <brokenfingers> micahg: I thought you were the one working on it?
[00:37] <brokenfingers> *confusion*
[00:37] <micahg> well, I was until what I was doing didn't work
[00:38] <micahg> brokenfingers: it's not an upstream bug though
[00:38] <penguin42> brokenfingers: Right, so what he's done is he's marked the lp bug as 'fixed released' since it got fixed some time ago, then on your erroneous upstream one he's marked it as resolved (because it was) and invalid (because it was) - so you can just ignore it
[00:38] <micahg> and chris's get-orig-source rewrite might have already fixed it
[00:39] <micahg> ah, indeed it did
[00:39] <brokenfingers> micahg and micahg: *regains composure* I only found this stuff after the fact. Lo ciento. (Spanish-Sorry about that)
[00:40] <micahg> that should be lo siento then :)
[00:40] <brokenfingers> Oh. Tells you what I know.
[00:40] <micahg> unless my spanish is really rusty
[00:40] <micahg> which it is :)
[00:41] <brokenfingers> micahg: Yours is probably better
[00:41] <micahg> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lo%20siento
[00:41] <brokenfingers> micahg: Just got there myself :)
[00:42] <penguin42> it's not normally a good sign checking on ud :-)
[00:42] <micahg> http://translate.google.com/#en|es|I%27m%20sorry
[00:42] <micahg> :)
[00:42] <brokenfingers> :)
[00:43] <brokenfingers> Oh the things we discuss on the IRC... :)
[00:44] <brokenfingers> GoogleTrans is helpful tho. I just got done replying to a new user's but in German
[00:44] <brokenfingers> Ohh gotta go! Bye All!
[13:28] <Krige> hi there
[13:29] <Krige> I am having a problem with a very slow boot time in Ubuntu 12.04
[13:30] <Krige> can anyone suggest a specific package a problem like that might be realated to so that I can file a bug in launchpad?
[13:38] <roadmr> Krige: have you tried using bootchart and pybootchartgui to collect and plot boot process information?
[13:38] <Krige> roadmr: I have downloaded and installed bootchart, but could not figure out how to use it
[13:39] <roadmr> Krige: when you reboot some data files will be created in /var/log/bootchart
[13:39] <Krige> roadmr: when I run install.sh contained in the bootchart tar nothing is displayed
[13:39] <Krige> roadmr: I'll check that out...
[13:39] <roadmr> Krige: pybootchartgui is supposed to then let you analyze those files
[13:40] <roadmr> Krige: rather than using bootchart from a tarball from bootchart.org, I suggest you apt-get install bootchart pybootchartgui, maybe they integrate better into Ubuntu
[13:40] <Krige> roadmr: mmmh, there is no bootchart directory in /var/log
[13:40] <Krige> roadmr: roger that, I will follow your suggestion
[13:41] <Krige> updating initramfs...
[13:42] <roadmr> Krige: I think that if you install those two packages, then reboot your system and wait a couple of minutes, you'll even find a .png in/var/log/bootchart.
[13:42] <Krige> roadmr: will do that right now, brb
[13:42] <Krige> roadmr: btw, thanks a lot! :)
[13:42] <roadmr> Krige: you're welcome, hope it works
[13:42] <Krige> roadmr: I will let you know in a while
[13:49] <Krige> roadmr: wow, that was easy
[13:50] <roadmr> Krige: hehe :) awesome, glad you think so
[13:50] <Krige> roadmr: it worked! I have the bootchart image now :)
[13:50] <roadmr> Krige: ok, so you can potentially use it to see which parts of your boot process are taking the longest,
[13:51] <roadmr> Krige: then you can see if you can configure something to speed things up or you need to file a bug
[13:51] <Krige> roadmr: mh, I'll have a look at it...
[13:52] <Krige> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/581j8gp44fe6vfp/O3VuPSGDvQ
[13:53] <Krige> I am not sure I am able to spot unusual activities in there
[13:57] <roadmr> Krige: hmm one other thing to try is, when Ubuntu starts booting, hit ESC to see boot messages and see if it gets stuck/stalls on some
[14:01] <Krige> roadmr: thanks for the hint! I will try that at once
[14:11] <ecolitan> Hello everyone
[14:12] <ecolitan> i had an idea for the introduction page for how to triage
[14:13] <Krige> nope... ESC didn't work :/
[14:14] <ecolitan> a form with some example bugs, which can be triaged by the user, which corrects any mistakes and shows how things should have been done correctly
[14:14] <Krige> the screen remained black the whole boot time
[14:16] <hggdh> ecolitan: could be interesting indeed. Can you set up a page showing the idea?
[14:16] <ecolitan> hggdh: yeah I can rig something up
[14:17] <hggdh> ecolitan: please do, then send an email to ubuntu-bugsquad@lists.ubuntu.com talking about it (and ping us here also, of course)
[14:37] <ecolitan> I'm trying to learn how to triage correctly and doing my first bug, the guide says after confirming to set importance, but I can't alter the field
[14:39] <ecolitan> ok I see, bugsquad is not the same as bugcontrol
[14:40] <ecolitan> can someone please set #1008525 to Low
[15:02] <roadmr> bug 1008525
[15:02] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1008525 in gzip "gzip -f zips files with .gz suffix, creating file.gz.gz" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1008525
[15:40] <hggdh> ecolitan: done. It would be interesting to check on -- say -- Oneiric if indeed that happens
[16:03] <njin> bug 1008571 can be verified ?
[16:03] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1008571 in nautilus "New Window entry not present in main menu (dup-of: 999827)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1008571
[16:03] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 999827 in indicator-appmenu "Quantal Nautilus missing Preferences (incorrect handling of appmenu and menu used together)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/999827
[16:05] <njin> wow
[16:19] <CrafterRob> After upgrading to ubuntu 12.04 I was unable to access the ethernet. I have a Macronix 98715 and an open question in askubuntu.com. I cannot reattempt an upgrade until I know this issue is resolved. Can anyone help?
[16:45] <hggdh> CrafterRob: can you give us the link to the askubuntu Q?
[16:47] <CrafterRob> http://askubuntu.com/questions/128174/wired-macronix-98715-ethernet-doesnt-work-after-12-04-upgrade
[19:48] <dlentz> bug 1008575 seems like opinion to me. any other thoughts?
[19:48] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1008575 in ubuntu-meta "change rythymbox by an other music player (more complet)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1008575
[19:50] <micahg> dlentz: it's invalid as a bug, that type of discussion should happen around UDS time on the ubuntu-desktop list
[19:51] <micahg> and of course, rhythmbox is only a recommends, and people are free to swap out their favorite player
[19:59] <dlentz> micahg, thanks
[20:27] <dlentz> if i would like to request a person's launchpad account  deactivated, where do i post that to?
[20:27] <dlentz> their first account was deleted at chriscoulson's request because the person would file multiple bugs every day about their system being hacked by the local government (and not respond to them): https://launchpad.net/~solar-retrofit
[20:30] <micahg> dlentz: answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[20:39] <dlentz> yeah, that was it (thanks again)
[20:56] <hggdh>  
[23:53] <brokenfingers> bug 1007906 and bug 1008768 Can someone please set importances? Thank you in advance.
[23:53] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1007906 in software-center "Software Center distorted graphics" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1007906
[23:53] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1008768 in unity "Unity launcher icons transparent after Digikam move operation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1008768