[07:02] good morning [07:09] Evening dholbach [07:09] hey benonsoftware [07:10] How was your weekend? [07:10] great - I went to a Balkan music party on Friday and Saturday had a couple of friends over [07:11] how about yourself? [07:12] All week I've been sick, today is the best I've been. But I'm looking forward to school tomorrow [07:13] oh damn :-/ [07:13] I hope you're up to speed soon again [07:14] Thanks [07:16] Keynote for iPad is so... limited :/ === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === ara_ is now known as ara [14:06] cjohnston: what's up with the line? [14:06] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/u/jorge.html [14:14] bkerensa: yo so you still want me to submit for an hp account for you? [14:58] Mr dholbach [14:59] shall we? [14:59] hey jono [14:59] yep, just a sec [15:00] let's do it [15:01] dholbach, invite sent [15:01] jcastro, marcoceppi btw, we are so close to having all the AU Accomplishments documented [15:02] jono: I know! I'm wrapping up my last batch now [15:02] marcoceppi, :-) [15:29] jono, sponsoring queue this morning: 103, now: 82 :) [15:29] still some way to go, but we're getting there [15:29] dholbach, :-) [15:30] yeah lets get this under a more manageable state [15:30] dholbach, can you blog asking people to help too? [15:30] sure [15:30] jcastro: yeah :) [15:30] dpm, all set [15:31] jono, yep [15:42] jono, done === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [16:17] dpm, chatting in #is about the ticket [16:17] they are looking into it [16:32] alright my friends - see you all tomorrow again [16:42] any canonical folks about at the moment ? [16:43] jussi: sup [16:43] czajkowski: Ill PM [16:43] ok [16:53] <--- late lunch [17:01] mhall119, about set? [17:02] yup [17:05] mhall119, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/38010f5225942696d10c0e03351131cc20a053fc?authuser=0&hl=en-US [17:23] bkerensa: you still use cloudflare? [17:23] jcastro: of course [17:23] I signed up last week [17:23] 1.2 GB bandwidth saved by CloudFlare [17:23] I think my bill on AWS will be teeny [17:25] jcastro: how many requests saved? [17:25] 38,289 [17:32] jcastro: nice [17:32] bkerensa: I still need your tenantID and all that if you want in on this round [17:33] jcastro: lol I sent it [17:33] upvote please: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/ukhfz/nearly_10000_humble_indie_bundle_ubuntu_software/ [17:33] hmmm no [17:33] Are you sure you sent it to me or HP? [17:34] jcastro: sent again... it should have been in the original part of the e-mail maybe it got truncated [17:34] jono: bought mine yesterday -- will blog about it tonight [17:34] no worries, that's why I checked [17:34] cprofitt, :-) [17:36] jono: you and jcastro and co need to make a secret reddit acct ;) self promo or promo of company stuff will get you banned from reddit or muted :P [17:36] just a heads up [17:36] :P [17:41] wow, the twitter feed on the 12.04 installer is pretty cool [17:43] jono: is that 10,000 total app downloads, or 10,000 bundle purchases? [17:44] mhall119: yeah it is... I wonder how it works with no internet connection [17:46] mhall119, bundles [17:53] Epic, glad to be one of the 10k! [17:57] popey: do you have the fingerprint reader working on your x220? [18:02] mhall119: i havent tried, so no [18:04] hey popey [18:05] I tend to default to blaming you for things like this [18:05] hmm? [18:05] but has anyone noticed that we have things here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows [18:05] and on other parts I am sure [18:05] that actually are not the ubuntu way? [18:06] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows/Philosophy [18:06] this one in particular [18:06] what about them? [18:07] linux is about choice [18:07] blah blah [18:07] * popey marks as 'opinion' [18:07] right [18:07] but look where it's hosted, etc. [18:07] http://askubuntu.com/questions/146179/ubuntu-philosophy-question [18:07] when you write opinion on doc pages [18:07] people ask questions [18:09] anyway, I am just whining to you [18:09] because this is the sort of thing that is usually your fault [18:09] i blame you for not deleting it yet [18:10] why do we even have stuff like this on the wiki [18:10] its more of a blog post than anything [18:10] I mean, we _have_ a vetted community philosophy page [18:10] it was all written by one guy [18:11] I can't tell, I get 500 erros when I select info on the wiki [18:11] heh [18:11] i managed to get that to load [18:12] "Linux has a long, smooth learning curve." That's hot. [18:13] "Windows' learning curve has created a strict caste system - users are expected to give up when they hit a wall, developers are supposed to attend the seminar or read the book. Linux's learning curve has created a more egalitarian system - everyone is supposed to follow the learning curve as far as they can, and no further." [18:13] under the social mobility part [18:13] heh [18:14] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1023629/ [18:14] dear zeitgeist. die [18:14] popey: also hey did you see RAID5/6 isn't far away [18:14] seriously. i have _no_ idea what my laptop is doing now [18:15] not this upcoming kernel, the next one probably [18:15] but it's being eaten alive by deamons [18:15] nyom nyom munch munch [18:15] tasty laptop heheh [18:17] popey: Zeitgeist detected your laptop wasn't running at peak temperature, and is compensating [18:19] clearly [18:19] You can modify that behavior by removing the "dasblinkenlights" parameter under gconf [18:19] (note: not really) [18:27] balloons, about set? [18:28] man time flies [18:29] I'm ready [18:31] balloons, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/2b896a228445057f7f9160de00c036767ebce445?authuser=0&hl=en-US [18:32] heh.. too much for this pc :-) [18:32] 4 workspaces means 4x as much stuff going on :-) [18:34] balloons, can you join? [18:34] jono, it's timing out [18:34] trying.. [18:34] ok [18:34] switching browsers [18:41] jcastro: whats the problem with status? [19:08] cjohnston: my line is starting on the wrong place [19:09] it should be at 41, not 35. [19:09] but whatever, I closed some things to get back unda [19:23] bkerensa: up for some HN spreading-the-word later? [19:24] I have something awesome [19:27] jcastro: HN? [19:27] hackernews yo [19:27] jcastro: oh yeah let me know [19:27] jcastro, you have a surprise for HN? [19:27] * balloons remembers seeing an interesting juju discussion on there once [19:27] not surprise [19:27] well sort of [19:27] it's just normal awesomeness [19:28] not like, earth shattering, just cool [19:28] just normal awesomeness :-) I like it [19:30] bkerensa: hey have you ever measured the impact of Facebook's like button JS? [19:30] it's basically a steaming pile. [19:31] jcastro: its impact in traffic? or impact in load times? [19:31] load times [19:32] jcastro: it starts below done not at the top. so if you had 50 items and 45 were done when it reset, the line would start at 5 [19:32] jcastro, http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/93724 [19:32] balloons: not as a user [19:32] as a person who puts one on my blog [19:32] jcastro: The Facebook Script adds about 32 milliseconds to load [19:33] http://informationarchitects.net/blog/sweep-the-sleaze/ [19:33] I found this interesting [19:33] and it was waaay longer than 32 on mine [19:33] jcastro: do you minify all js on your page? [19:33] :d [19:33] so I ditched it, but I kept the HN and G+ ones since that's probably what my audience is on [19:34] removing FB also reduces the wrong-audience [19:34] so I can skillfully evade the "unity sucks" crowd [19:34] jcastro, ahh.. you mean you added a "like" button to your blog for facebook? [19:34] :) [19:35] lol -- why would do propagate such madness? [19:35] balloons: yeah, so I did the value vs. load time thought this weekend. [19:35] * balloons should do a load time check on his blog [19:37] http://loadimpact.com/ [19:37] this one is quick and easy [19:38] jcastro: all traffic has value to me imho [19:38] even if they are haters [19:38] haters are my biggest fans :P [19:40] jcastro: sweet site [19:40] jcastro: http://whichloadsfaster.com/ [19:42] http://whichloadsfaster.com/?l=www.benjaminkerensa.com&r=jorgecastro.org [19:43] jcastro: im doing stuff in the backend right now ;) [19:44] well, you know me, had to go for it [19:44] mwahaha [19:49] bah jorge, you beat me easily too.. [19:49] that s3 static stuff is SO quick [19:50] balloons: nah its not that [19:50] jcastro: does fitbit work on Ubuntu ? [19:50] not really [19:50] bkerensa, ohh what is it? [19:50] balloons: its the fact that he uses html5 and has no images and stripped down JS [19:50] :D [19:50] I know I have a couple of fat js that run [19:50] he is running a barebones site practically [19:50] I have tons of images [19:50] peh [19:50] though I cut down on the amount on the front page because my page size was 1.2 megs or something [19:52] http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/EP18nC4Xt/benjaminkerensa.com <--- load times historically [19:52] jcastro: wow you do have a lot of content [19:52] >.< [19:52] I just now cut it down to like the last 10 posts [19:52] 1.4mb [19:52] instead of 25 or whatever I had it before [19:53] my site is 55kb total [19:53] :D [19:53] 555kb* [19:54] * bkerensa is looking for a cartoon artist of sorts to re-design my blog :P [19:56] jcastro: do you hard code your sharing scripts or use a plugin? [19:56] they're built into octopress [19:56] though I had to manually hack in the HN one [19:56] bkerensa: you should talk to doctormo [19:59] mhall119: I was thinking more like outsourcing to a 15 year old on deviantart :) [19:59] :P [20:59] jono: http://www.ubuntu-user.com/Magazine/Archive/2012/13/Ubuntu-Developer-Summit-Quantal-Quetzal [20:59] there is a pdf copy of my article which lands in the july print issue ^ [21:00] nice bkerensa [21:02] bkerensa, cool! [21:05] jcastro: passed a link to your btrfs post to my mate who helps them out... [21:05] "Is he a big ubuntu person?" [21:05] "(Obviously, not as important as you are, but...)" [21:05] ☺ [21:05] I would say I'm just some guy [21:06] I mean, you wouldn't trust me for filesystem advice would you? [21:06] i would say the same tbh [21:07] loving btrfs also btw ☺ [21:07] i mentioned btrfs to cking at the party yesterday [21:07] i'm more thinking "well if popey and jorge can do this, and I'm sitting here with LVM like a chump ..." [21:07] his wife was stood next to him... she shook her had and sucked air through her teeth.. "Ooh, you tried that didn't you?" [21:07] hahahah [21:09] my LUG had Chris Mason come talk to us about btrfs two years ago... looks like its time to get him in again. [21:12] Is it not true that btrfs is not a good option over ext4? [21:12] not for your default fs yet [21:13] but as my blog says, if you have a bunch of disks and are sick of mdadm/lvm and all that noise ... [21:14] I'm loving btrfs [21:14] hmm [21:15] being able to live add/remove disks is pretty awesome [21:15] popey: it's taking almost all my willpower to NOT to just take my old disks, buy that esata card [21:15] and just tack them on like you're doing [21:16] popey: how good are you with btrfs math? [21:16] like figuring out useful space? [21:16] no [21:21] i have 8x2TB disks.. yet btrfs fi df /srv says... [21:21] Data, RAID1: total=6.77TB, used=3.07TB [21:21] so yeah, no idea [21:36] I got the general run around on how to compute space, but it's still a little fuzzy [21:48] jcastro: I just rechecked your chart.. it is correct [21:49] k ta [21:49] dont worry.. i had surgery this morning, but I'm still here for you :-P [21:56] marcoceppi: jcastro if you're _only_ using RAID1 then just use df and divide by 2 [21:56] right [21:57] their argument is you could have a mix of RAID1 and other RAID levels so it's impossible to determine the potential free space [21:57] because you dont know what RAID level data you're going to write in the future [22:06] oh dear Feisty & Edgy https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/1390 [23:58] hey jono [23:58] easy badge: http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/accomplishments [23:58] create a tag wiki there [23:59] jcastro: do you have a deleted 20 wiki pages badge?