[07:02] <dholbach> good morning
[07:09] <benonsoftware> Evening dholbach
[07:09] <dholbach> hey benonsoftware
[07:10] <benonsoftware> How was your weekend?
[07:10] <dholbach> great - I went to a Balkan music party on Friday and Saturday had a couple of friends over
[07:11] <dholbach> how about yourself?
[07:12] <benonsoftware> All week I've been sick, today is the best I've been. But I'm looking forward to school tomorrow
[07:13] <dholbach> oh damn :-/
[07:13] <dholbach> I hope you're up to speed soon again
[07:14] <benonsoftware> Thanks
[07:16] <benonsoftware> Keynote for iPad is so... limited :/
[14:06] <jcastro> cjohnston: what's up with the line?
[14:06] <jcastro> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/u/jorge.html
[14:14] <jcastro> bkerensa: yo so you still want me to submit for an hp account for you?
[14:58] <jono> Mr dholbach
[14:59] <jono> shall we?
[14:59] <dholbach> hey jono
[14:59] <dholbach> yep, just a sec
[15:00] <dholbach> let's do it
[15:01] <jono> dholbach, invite sent
[15:01] <jono> jcastro, marcoceppi btw, we are so close to having all the AU Accomplishments documented
[15:02] <marcoceppi> jono: I know! I'm wrapping up my last batch now
[15:02] <jono> marcoceppi, :-)
[15:29] <dholbach> jono, sponsoring queue this morning: 103, now: 82 :)
[15:29] <dholbach> still some way to go, but we're getting there
[15:29] <jono> dholbach, :-)
[15:30] <jono> yeah lets get this under a more manageable state
[15:30] <jono> dholbach, can you blog asking people to help too?
[15:30] <dholbach> sure
[15:30] <bkerensa> jcastro: yeah :)
[15:30] <jono> dpm, all set
[15:31] <dpm> jono, yep
[15:42] <dholbach> jono, done
[16:17] <jono> dpm, chatting in #is about the ticket
[16:17] <jono> they are looking into it
[16:32] <dholbach> alright my friends - see you all tomorrow again
[16:42] <jussi> any canonical folks about at the moment ?
[16:43] <czajkowski> jussi: sup
[16:43] <jussi> czajkowski: Ill PM
[16:43] <czajkowski> ok
[16:53] <jcastro> <--- late lunch
[17:01] <jono> mhall119, about set?
[17:02] <mhall119> yup
[17:05] <jono> mhall119, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/38010f5225942696d10c0e03351131cc20a053fc?authuser=0&hl=en-US
[17:23] <jcastro> bkerensa: you still use cloudflare?
[17:23] <bkerensa> jcastro: of course
[17:23] <jcastro> I signed up last week
[17:23] <jcastro> 1.2 GB bandwidth saved by CloudFlare
[17:23] <jcastro> I think my bill on AWS will be teeny
[17:25] <bkerensa> jcastro: how many requests saved?
[17:25] <jcastro> 38,289
[17:32] <bkerensa> jcastro: nice
[17:32] <jcastro> bkerensa: I still need your tenantID and all that if you want in on this round
[17:33] <bkerensa> jcastro: lol I sent it
[17:33] <jono>  upvote please: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/ukhfz/nearly_10000_humble_indie_bundle_ubuntu_software/
[17:33] <jcastro> hmmm no
[17:33] <jcastro> Are you sure you sent it to me or HP?
[17:34] <bkerensa> jcastro: sent again... it should have been in the original part of the e-mail maybe it got truncated
[17:34] <cprofitt> jono: bought mine yesterday -- will blog about it tonight
[17:34] <jcastro> no worries, that's why I checked
[17:34] <jono> cprofitt, :-)
[17:36] <bkerensa> jono: you and jcastro and co need to make a secret reddit acct ;) self promo or promo of company stuff will get you banned from reddit or muted :P
[17:36] <bkerensa> just a heads up
[17:36] <bkerensa> :P
[17:41] <mhall119> wow, the twitter feed on the 12.04 installer is pretty cool
[17:43] <mhall119> jono: is that 10,000 total app downloads, or 10,000 bundle purchases?
[17:44] <bkerensa> mhall119: yeah it is... I wonder how it works with no internet connection
[17:46] <jono> mhall119, bundles
[17:53] <marcoceppi> Epic, glad to be one of the 10k!
[17:57] <mhall119> popey: do you have the fingerprint reader working on your x220?
[18:02] <popey> mhall119: i havent tried, so no
[18:04] <jcastro> hey popey
[18:05] <jcastro> I tend to default to blaming you for things like this
[18:05] <popey> hmm?
[18:05] <jcastro> but has anyone noticed that we have things here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[18:05] <jcastro> and on other parts I am sure
[18:05] <jcastro> that actually are not the ubuntu way?
[18:06] <jcastro> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows/Philosophy
[18:06] <jcastro> this one in particular
[18:06] <popey> what about them?
[18:07] <jcastro> linux is about choice
[18:07] <jcastro> blah blah
[18:07]  * popey marks as 'opinion'
[18:07] <jcastro> right
[18:07] <jcastro> but look where it's hosted, etc.
[18:07] <jcastro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/146179/ubuntu-philosophy-question
[18:07] <jcastro> when you write opinion on doc pages
[18:07] <jcastro> people ask questions
[18:09] <jcastro> anyway, I am just whining to you
[18:09] <jcastro> because this is the sort of thing that is usually your fault
[18:09] <popey> i blame you for not deleting it yet
[18:10] <jcastro> why do we even have stuff like this on the wiki
[18:10] <popey> its more of a blog post than anything
[18:10] <jcastro> I mean, we _have_ a vetted community philosophy page
[18:10] <popey> it was all written by one guy
[18:11] <jcastro> I can't tell, I get 500 erros when I select info on the wiki
[18:11] <jcastro> heh
[18:11] <popey> i managed to get that to load
[18:12] <snap-l> "Linux has a long, smooth learning curve." That's hot.
[18:13] <jcastro> "Windows' learning curve has created a strict caste system - users are expected to give up when they hit a wall, developers are supposed to attend the seminar or read the book. Linux's learning curve has created a more egalitarian system - everyone is supposed to follow the learning curve as far as they can, and no further."
[18:13] <jcastro> under the social mobility part
[18:13] <jcastro> heh
[18:14] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1023629/
[18:14] <popey> dear zeitgeist. die
[18:14] <jcastro> popey: also hey did you see RAID5/6 isn't far away
[18:14] <popey> seriously. i have _no_ idea what my laptop is doing now
[18:15] <jcastro> not this upcoming kernel, the next one probably
[18:15] <popey> but it's being eaten alive by deamons
[18:15] <czajkowski> nyom nyom munch munch
[18:15] <czajkowski> tasty laptop heheh
[18:17] <snap-l> popey: Zeitgeist detected your laptop wasn't running at peak temperature, and is compensating
[18:19] <popey> clearly
[18:19] <snap-l> You can modify that behavior by removing the "dasblinkenlights" parameter under gconf
[18:19] <snap-l> (note: not really)
[18:27] <jono> balloons, about set?
[18:28] <balloons> man time flies
[18:29] <balloons> I'm ready
[18:31] <jono> balloons, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/2b896a228445057f7f9160de00c036767ebce445?authuser=0&hl=en-US
[18:32] <balloons> heh.. too much for this pc :-)
[18:32] <balloons> 4 workspaces means 4x as much stuff going on :-)
[18:34] <jono> balloons, can you join?
[18:34] <balloons> jono, it's timing out
[18:34] <balloons> trying..
[18:34] <jono> ok
[18:34] <balloons> switching browsers
[18:41] <cjohnston> jcastro: whats the problem with status?
[19:08] <jcastro> cjohnston: my line is starting on the wrong place
[19:09] <jcastro> it should be at 41, not 35.
[19:09] <jcastro> but whatever, I closed some things to get back unda
[19:23] <jcastro> bkerensa: up for some HN spreading-the-word later?
[19:24] <jcastro> I have something awesome
[19:27] <bkerensa> jcastro: HN?
[19:27] <jcastro> hackernews yo
[19:27] <bkerensa> jcastro: oh yeah let me know
[19:27] <balloons> jcastro, you have a surprise for HN?
[19:27]  * balloons remembers seeing an interesting juju discussion on there once
[19:27] <jcastro> not surprise
[19:27] <jcastro> well sort of
[19:27] <jcastro> it's just normal awesomeness
[19:28] <jcastro> not like, earth shattering, just cool
[19:28] <balloons> just normal awesomeness :-) I like it
[19:30] <jcastro> bkerensa: hey have you ever measured the impact of Facebook's like button JS?
[19:30] <jcastro> it's basically a steaming pile.
[19:31] <bkerensa> jcastro: its impact in traffic? or impact in load times?
[19:31] <jcastro> load times
[19:32] <cjohnston> jcastro: it starts below done not at the top. so if you had 50 items and 45 were done when it reset, the line would start at 5
[19:32] <balloons> jcastro, http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/93724
[19:32] <jcastro> balloons: not as a user
[19:32] <jcastro> as a person who puts one on my blog
[19:32] <bkerensa> jcastro: The Facebook Script adds about 32 milliseconds to load
[19:33] <jcastro> http://informationarchitects.net/blog/sweep-the-sleaze/
[19:33] <jcastro> I found this interesting
[19:33] <jcastro> and it was waaay longer than 32 on mine
[19:33] <bkerensa> jcastro: do you minify all js on your page?
[19:33] <bkerensa> :d
[19:33] <jcastro> so I ditched it, but I kept the HN and G+ ones since that's probably what my audience is on
[19:34] <jcastro> removing FB also reduces the wrong-audience
[19:34] <jcastro> so I can skillfully evade the "unity sucks" crowd
[19:34] <balloons> jcastro, ahh.. you mean you added a "like" button to your blog for facebook?
[19:34] <jcastro> :)
[19:35] <balloons> lol -- why would do propagate such madness?
[19:35] <jcastro> balloons: yeah, so I did the value vs. load time thought this weekend.
[19:35]  * balloons should do a load time check on his blog
[19:37] <jcastro> http://loadimpact.com/
[19:37] <jcastro> this one is quick and easy
[19:38] <bkerensa> jcastro: all traffic has value to me imho
[19:38] <bkerensa> even if they are haters
[19:38] <bkerensa> haters are my biggest fans :P
[19:40] <marcoceppi> jcastro: sweet site
[19:40] <bkerensa> jcastro: http://whichloadsfaster.com/
[19:42] <jcastro> http://whichloadsfaster.com/?l=www.benjaminkerensa.com&r=jorgecastro.org
[19:43] <bkerensa> jcastro: im doing stuff in the backend right now ;)
[19:44] <jcastro> well, you know  me, had to go for it
[19:44] <jcastro> mwahaha
[19:49] <balloons> bah jorge, you beat me easily too..
[19:49] <balloons> that s3 static stuff is SO quick
[19:50] <bkerensa> balloons: nah its not that
[19:50] <czajkowski> jcastro: does fitbit work on Ubuntu ?
[19:50] <jcastro> not really
[19:50] <balloons> bkerensa, ohh what is it?
[19:50] <bkerensa> balloons: its the fact that he uses html5 and has no images and stripped down JS
[19:50] <bkerensa> :D
[19:50] <balloons> I know I have a couple of fat js that run
[19:50] <bkerensa> he is running a barebones site practically
[19:50] <jcastro> I have tons of images
[19:50] <bkerensa> peh
[19:50] <jcastro> though I cut down on the amount on the front page because my page size was 1.2 megs or something
[19:52] <bkerensa> http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/EP18nC4Xt/benjaminkerensa.com <--- load times historically
[19:52] <bkerensa> jcastro: wow you do have a lot of content
[19:52] <bkerensa> >.<
[19:52] <jcastro> I  just now cut it down to like the last 10 posts
[19:52] <bkerensa> 1.4mb
[19:52] <jcastro> instead of 25 or whatever I had it before
[19:53] <bkerensa> my site is 55kb total
[19:53] <bkerensa> :D
[19:53] <bkerensa> 555kb*
[19:54]  * bkerensa is looking for a cartoon artist of sorts to re-design my blog :P
[19:56] <bkerensa> jcastro: do you hard code your sharing scripts or use a plugin?
[19:56] <jcastro> they're built into octopress
[19:56] <jcastro> though I had to manually hack in the HN one
[19:56] <mhall119> bkerensa: you should talk to doctormo
[19:59] <bkerensa> mhall119: I was thinking more like outsourcing to a 15 year old on deviantart :)
[19:59] <bkerensa> :P
[20:59] <bkerensa> jono: http://www.ubuntu-user.com/Magazine/Archive/2012/13/Ubuntu-Developer-Summit-Quantal-Quetzal
[20:59] <bkerensa> there is a pdf copy of my article which lands in the july print issue ^
[21:00] <cprofitt> nice bkerensa
[21:02] <jono> bkerensa, cool!
[21:05] <popey> jcastro: passed a link to your btrfs post to my mate who helps them out...
[21:05] <popey> "Is he a big ubuntu person?"
[21:05] <popey> "(Obviously, not as important as you are, but...)"
[21:05] <popey> ☺
[21:05] <jcastro> I would say I'm just some guy
[21:06] <jcastro> I mean, you wouldn't trust me for filesystem advice would you?
[21:06] <popey> i would say the same tbh
[21:07] <popey> loving btrfs also btw ☺
[21:07] <popey> i mentioned btrfs to cking at the party yesterday
[21:07] <jcastro> i'm more thinking "well if popey and jorge can do this, and I'm sitting here with LVM like a chump ..."
[21:07] <popey> his wife was stood next to him... she shook her had and sucked air through her teeth.. "Ooh, you tried that didn't you?"
[21:07] <jcastro> hahahah
[21:09] <cprofitt> my LUG had Chris Mason come talk to us about btrfs two years ago... looks like its time to get him in again.
[21:12] <bkerensa> Is it not true that btrfs is not a good option over ext4?
[21:12] <jcastro> not for your default fs yet
[21:13] <jcastro> but as my blog says, if you have a bunch of disks and are sick of mdadm/lvm and all that noise ...
[21:14] <popey> I'm loving btrfs
[21:14] <bkerensa> hmm
[21:15] <popey> being able to live add/remove disks is pretty awesome
[21:15] <jcastro> popey: it's taking almost all my willpower to NOT to just take my old disks, buy that esata card
[21:15] <jcastro> and just tack them on like you're doing
[21:16] <jcastro> popey: how good are you with btrfs math?
[21:16] <jcastro> like figuring out useful space?
[21:16] <popey> no
[21:21] <popey> i have 8x2TB disks.. yet btrfs fi df /srv says...
[21:21] <popey> Data, RAID1: total=6.77TB, used=3.07TB
[21:21] <popey> so yeah, no idea
[21:36] <marcoceppi> I got the general run around on how to compute space, but it's still a little fuzzy
[21:48] <cjohnston> jcastro: I just rechecked your chart.. it is correct
[21:49] <jcastro> k ta
[21:49] <cjohnston> dont worry.. i had surgery this morning, but I'm still here for you :-P
[21:56] <popey> marcoceppi: jcastro if you're _only_ using RAID1 then just use df and divide by 2
[21:56] <jcastro> right
[21:57] <popey> their argument is you could have a mix of RAID1 and other RAID levels so it's impossible to determine the potential free space
[21:57] <popey> because you dont know what RAID level data you're going to write in the future
[22:06] <daker-cloud> oh dear Feisty & Edgy https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/1390
[23:58] <jcastro> hey jono
[23:58] <jcastro> easy badge: http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/accomplishments
[23:58] <jcastro> create a tag wiki there
[23:59] <cjohnston> jcastro: do you have a deleted 20 wiki pages badge?