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berniehey, i think i've hit a bug in software-center with installing commercial software after it has been paid for.01:18
berniewhere could i report it?01:18
micahgbernie: ubuntu-bug software-center01:19
berniemicahg: i ended up filing this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/100828901:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1008289 in software-center (Ubuntu) ""Failed to download repository information" for purchased application" [Undecided,New]01:37
berniemicahg: and i also sent a note to pay-support@canonical.com01:38
micahgbernie: ok, someone should be looking at it tomorrow then01:38
berniemicahg: it's just $9.99, but i'm very curious to see what the customer experience is like.01:39
micahgbernie: indeed, I think it's something that should work :) (I just don't work on that), sounds like you already took the proper steps01:39
berniemicahg: hey, i found another workflow that triggers bugs in the software center: 1) purchase the humble indie bundle 2) you get an email with a key and a link 3) click on "Download for Ubuntu" to get to software-center.ubuntu.com with the key in the url 4) click on one of the apt:// links and Software Center opens 5) Software Center offers you to buy the game once again :-(03:11
berniemicahg: i'll report another bug03:11
micahgbernie: ok, thanks03:14
berniemicahg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/100830903:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1008309 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Can't download purchased Humble Indie Bundle with Ubuntu Software Center" [Undecided,New]03:35
pittiGood morning03:36
ajmitchmorning pitti03:39
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ionHmm, Psychonauts doesn’t seem to be available yet.04:24
vibhavCan https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdvdnav/+bug/934471 be nominated for oneiric and precise?04:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 934471 in libdvdnav (Ubuntu) "vlc crashed with SIGSEGV in dvdnav_describe_title_chapters()" [Medium,Fix released]04:35
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dholbachgood morning07:02
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larsduesinggood morning08:16
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tjaaltondholbach: hey, could you test the kernel from precise-proposed to see if it fixes bug 906269 for you?10:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 906269 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[sandybridge-m-gt2+] GPU lockup render.IPEHR: 0x7a000002" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90626910:26
tjaaltonit did work for dovercash10:27
dholbachtjaalton, the lockup only happened very rarely, so it'll be a bit hard to test it, but AFAIK I didn't have any video lockups for a longer while now10:27
dholbachsorry for the very unspecific feedback10:27
tjaaltondholbach: ok, I'll mark it as a dupe of the other one then. there are a couple of other commits I'll propose to be added to v3.2-stable if the testing goes well..10:28
dholbachok cool10:28
dholbachthanks a bunch10:28
tjaaltonnp, thanks10:28
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ahasenackgood morning! Can a sponsor please take a look at #1004678? Thanks12:18
tumbleweedahasenack: that bug has no ubuntu tasks. It's also worth mentioning that you need a core-dev when asking for sponsorship :)12:20
ahasenacktumbleweed: right, let me add one, and change ours to fix committed12:21
ahasenacktumbleweed: do I need to subscribe some other team too?12:22
tumbleweedno, it should appear on the sponsorship queue12:23
ahasenacktumbleweed: ok12:26
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kendfingerHello13:50
kendfingerAny events today?14:05
dobeywhat sort of events?14:08
dobeyan ELE is unlikely today, at least14:09
seb128could somebody reject https://code.launchpad.net/~penguin359/ubuntu/precise/network-manager/fix-for-1005091-precise/+merge/10754514:09
seb128(it's a request against the wrong branch, the contributor also submitter other ones)14:09
stgraberseb128: done14:10
seb128thank14:11
seb128thanks14:11
dobeycan someone accept the ubuntuone-client and ubuntuone-control-panel packages into precise-proposed?14:12
kendfingerLike meetings.14:16
kendfingerIs there a buildbot or something for the Quantal Cd images?14:18
seb128stgraber, could you reject https://code.launchpad.net/~kroq-gar78/ubuntu/precise/activemq/sid-merge/+merge/106539 as well?14:19
kendfingerIs it true apport is being replaced?14:19
stgraberseb128: done14:19
seb128thanks14:20
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stokachuDaviey: ping14:27
stokachuor xnox ping :)14:27
xnox?14:28
xnox=)14:28
xnoxstokachu: what's up?14:28
stokachuxnox: hey, im trying to patch autofs5 in lucid, but dpatch-edit-patch new old fails with no rule to make unpatch14:28
stokachuxnox: is there something special i need to be doing for the patch system in autofs14:28
xnoxstokachu: not in the new autofs. Let me grab lucid's autofs and see how that acient package was done =)14:29
stokachuxnox: ok thanks, i believe its pretty ancient14:29
xnoxstokachu: are you trying to add a patch, or edit / modify an existing one?14:34
xnoxI would do14:34
stokachuyea a new patch14:34
xnox./debian/rules clean14:34
xnoxadd a patch file to ./debian/patches/14:34
xnoxadd the name of the patch to ./debian/patches/00list14:35
xnoxmake sure the patch starts with #! /bin/sh /usr/share/dpatch/dpatch-run14:35
xnoxand then do a test build14:35
stokachuah ok -- a more manual approach14:35
* micahg suggest edit-patch14:35
xnoxmicahg: if you know how to operate it, go ahead =)14:36
* xnox only used dpatch the way I described about 3 times in my lifetime =)14:36
stokachumicahg: i tried dpatch-edit-patch but that failed with no makefile rule to unpatch14:36
stokachuis edit-patch better to work with?14:36
xnoxstokachu: the packaging is very old-school, so it does not have upatch targets.14:37
micahgedit-patch is an abstraction on dpatch-edit-patch, not sure of all the pitfalls14:37
stokachuah ok14:37
* micahg defers to xnox14:37
stokachuthey both break in the same way14:37
stokachumanual way it is then14:38
stokachuthanks xnox14:38
xnoxstokachu: I usually do $ bzr commit & bzr dep3-patch -c-1 > debian/patches/newpatch.patch14:39
dholbachbryceh, tjaalton: did we have any xvfb segfaults any time recently? it might be a problem with bug 1008537 - not confirmed yet14:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1008537 in sphinx (Ubuntu) "[FTBFS] Segmentation fault during tests" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100853714:39
stokachuxnox: ok cool ill test that14:40
pittibryceh, tjaalton: FWIW, I get crashes in xvfb in apport's test suite, too14:40
xnoxstokachu: and then edit the series/00list & top line for the dpatch stuff.14:40
stokachuok14:40
tjaaltondholbach, pitti: there have been no xserver updates to quantal other than one bugfix early May..14:44
tjaaltonso it could be something else triggering it14:44
dholbachtjaalton, for a test, I could upload the sphinx merge to a precise ppa and see what happens14:45
tjaaltondholbach: yeah14:45
dholbachdo we have some docs on how the buildd chroots are configured?14:45
dholbachit'd be good to be able to reproduce this somewhere outside LP14:45
xnoxdholbach: the buildd tarball is accesible to download & then you can run it with sbuild14:46
xnoxshould be very close to LP setup14:46
xnoxchroot tarball14:46
dholbachxnox, I think I'd better leave that to somebody who knows how to debug xvfb better :)14:46
dholbachbut it's good to know14:47
xnox=))))14:47
xnoxtrue14:47
tjaaltondholbach: from the buildlog you can see that it actually managed to pass the first iteration of the tests, but the second one failed14:54
dholbachhttps://launchpad.net/~dholbach/+archive/ppa/+build/3547669 will start in 6h14:54
tjaaltonthe precise build log shows it'll run the tests three times14:55
tjaaltonah, the old version was built on oneiric14:56
tjaaltonhum no14:56
tjaaltonthat was the kernel version :)14:56
tjaaltonthe one on precise-proposed built fine14:56
bdmurraymvo: bug 902603 is still receiving duplicates because people are release upgrading without the new version of dpkg.  can something be done about that?15:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 902603 in taglib (Ubuntu Precise) "When installing Multi-Arch: same (meta-)package for two architectures, dpkg considers one arch as completely disappeared" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90260315:12
kendfingerToday's quantal build is very unstable! I can't connect to wifi. it freezes alot, and it just is flat out slow.15:16
ogra_kendfinger, we didnt even release alpha1 yet, what would you expect :)15:22
kendfingerI know. Just wanted to help by submiting bugs. :)15:22
ogra_yeah, thats a good plan :)15:23
mvobdmurray: one not very user friendly way would be to put it into DistUpgrade.cfg as "BadVersions=dpkg_1.16.0.3ubuntu5"15:30
mvobdmurray: this would mean people without it get a error, better of course is to simply install the update first15:30
bdmurraymvo: and is there a way to accomplish that?15:31
seb128could somebody reject https://code.launchpad.net/~nathwill/ubuntu/precise/gnome-control-center/fix-lp-978118/+merge/10378415:31
seb128(wrong serie, need tweaking, should go to Debian)15:31
stgraberseb128: done15:32
seb128stgraber, thanks15:32
mvobdmurray: I think this needs a bit of code to be written, let me double check15:33
mvobdmurray: not, not trivially, we would have to write some code15:47
bdmurraymvo: okay, its only received 7 duplicates in the past 2 weeks so may not be worth it15:49
seb128could somebody set https://code.launchpad.net/~sacridex/ubuntu/precise/unity-greeter/purple-background-on-startup-fix/+merge/102679 to needs fixing or rejected?16:04
stgraberseb128: done16:05
seb128thanks16:05
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jtaylorwhat should be done with fftw3? it now depends on mpi in debian, I guess thats not suitable for main?16:25
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slangasekseb128: hi, where did the number 800MB come from on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-q-one-iso-for-q ?  My understanding was that it was supposed to be 750 MB for this cycle16:42
slangasekthen at UDS I suggested we bump it to 750MiB instead because we were already at 736MB16:42
slangaseknow we're bumping again :)16:43
Riddellit seems pretty arbitrary16:43
RiddellKubuntu is hopeing for 1GB which is arbitrary but nicer and round :)16:43
seb128slangasek, hey, I'm a bit out of the loop on the topic, not sure if there was an UDS discussion if there was I missed it, please fix whatever I had wrong in the blueprint, jasoncwarner_ suggested I open it so we have an "official" place to track the change16:43
seb128slangasek, I got the 800mb number from https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001303.html16:44
slangasekRiddell, seb128: two cycles ago we had a discussion about dropping the CDs in favor of USB-sized images which would grow slowly each cycle, and it's my understanding the agreement was 75016:45
slangasekfor this cycle16:45
slangasekpitti: hi, where'd the number 800MB come from in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001303.html ?  I know we had a hallway discussion in Oakland about doing 750MiB instead of 750MB, but I didn't remember anyone saying 800 :)16:45
seb128slangasek, well, as said I missed the discussion if there was one at UDS so you might be right16:45
seb128slangasek, btw since you are around, do you see any issue multiarching libbonoboui without doing libbonobo? from reading bug #977947 the libbonobo one is non trivial16:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 977947 in libbonobo (Ubuntu Quantal) "Please transition libbonobo to multi-arch" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97794716:47
slangasekseb128: they can be multiarched in any order, but we do need to get the whole stack to get any real benefit to users16:47
seb128slangasek, I'm trying to look at bug #1003964 for precise SRU16:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1003964 in libgnomecanvas (Ubuntu Precise) "libglade2-0 can't find libbonobo.so or libcanvas.so (those need to be multiarched)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100396416:48
seb128slangasek, libglade got multiarched and load its .so from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglade and those libs install a .so in /usr/lib/libglade16:48
slangasekseb128: I don't think I've looked at libbonoboui in depth... I certainly wouldn't *SRU* libbonoboui before libbonobo is sorted16:48
seb128slangasek, the other option would be to add a fallback loader to libglade16:48
seb128that might be a safer solution for precise16:49
roaksoax416:49
slangasekerm... yes, there should be loader fallbacks for such things16:49
seb128slangasek, ok, I will look into that, thanks ;-)16:49
slangasekthank you :)16:49
slangasekstokachu: ^^ were you still looking at finishing up some of these multiarch SRUs for precise?16:49
* micahg thinks he took a precise multiarch SRU and forgot to upload it16:51
infinitymicahg: It's the thought that counts, right?16:53
micahgheh, I just need to go dig it up and upload later in the week16:55
infinityjdstrand: Care to have a quick look at bug 993658?17:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 993658 in latex2html (Ubuntu) "[MIR] latex2html" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99365817:11
jdstrandinfinity: ok. it'll be a bit, but I'll get to it this afternoon17:12
infinityjdstrand: Sure.  Seems mostly like a no-brainer to me, at least.17:12
seb128slangasek, could you have a look to bug #987502? the patch submitter asked for your input17:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 987502 in libxml2 (Ubuntu) "libxml2-dev: /usr/bin/xml2-config isn't identical across all arch" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98750217:43
slangasekseb128: it's in my queue, yes17:43
seb128slangasek, thanks17:43
slangasekseb128: btw, should libbonoboui2-0 have a versioned dep on the version of libglade2-0 that looks in the multiarch directory?  (currently it doesn't)17:44
seb128slangasek, it should maybe breaks libglade << multiarch version rather?17:45
slangasekseb128: well, it already depends on libglade17:45
slangasekso it should depend on the right version of libglade :)17:45
dobeyis there an sbuild equivalent of pbuilder-dist?17:46
seb128ok, I will fix that with the next upload, thanks for pointing it17:46
slangasekseb128: thank you!17:46
jbichadobey: I don't think so, I just follow http://wiki.debian.org/sbuild to set it up17:49
dobeyjbicha: ok, i'll check it out. thanks17:59
dobeydo packages in quantal show up on errors.ubuntu.com now?18:05
geserdobey: take a look at "mk-sbuild - creates chroots via schroot and sbuild" (ubuntu-dev-tools), perhaps the script does what you are looking for19:04
agrimmhi, all.  I'm trying to figuring out how dpkg orders things during package upgrades.  I have a package A that depends on an exact version of package B, and I would expect that on upgrade, package B's "preinst" script for the new version would run before the new version of package A is unpacked... but this isn't what seems to happen.  is the ordering not that strict?  am I forced to use pre-depends if I need this behavior?19:10
tumbleweedcorrect, that's what Pre-Depends is for19:11
tumbleweedwe try and avoid Pre-Depends whenever possible19:12
tumbleweederr sorry misread19:12
tumbleweedif A depends on B, A will be configured before B's postinst. If Pre-Depends, A will be configured before B's preinst runs19:13
tumbleweedhttp://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html19:13
slangasekagrimm: if you want unpack ordering, you have to use pre-depends, yes19:40
agrimmslangasek, tumbleweed : thanks, I'll see how that goes19:41
slangasekin general we discourage people from doing this however ;)19:42
slangasekas it makes the dependency calculations more brittle overall19:42
cr3for a python3 project in quantal, should the debian/control file specify something like: Depends: ${python3:Depends}? does that even exist?19:43
agrimmslangasek, I did see that in the guidelines... I really just need preinst script to run before unpacks ... it's strange to me that they don't19:43
slangasekthe preinst script runs before the unpack of the package shipping it19:43
agrimmslangasek, understood19:43
agrimmbut if that package _depends_ on another19:43
slangasekbut there's no guarantee of unpack ordering *except* via pre-depends, because it is actually useful for the package manager to unpack things out of order in some cases19:43
slangasekusually when trying to resolve conflicts/breaks elsewhere in the dependency graph19:44
slangasekcr3: yes19:44
slangasekcr3: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Python/3 should have the deets19:44
agrimmslangasek, I understand.  I'm just spoiled by package managers which have solved this problem19:44
slangasekcr3: actually, not that page, but on the linked http://wiki.debian.org/Python/LibraryStyleGuide19:44
infinityagrimm: As a result of the unpack ordering oddities, it's often recommended that preinsts not use anything outside of Essential.19:45
slangasekdpkg/apt have solved this too, just not with the same semantics as others ;)19:45
infinityagrimm: (Which is generally good advice anyway, preinsts shouldn't be where one does complex things)19:45
slangasekpre-depends are the correct way to enforce what you want19:45
slangasekwe just recognize (probably better than others) that there's a cost to using pre-depends19:45
cr3slangasek: thanks, exactly what I needed!19:45
agrimminfinity, if this were for the install case, I'd agree with oyu, but my use case is strictly for upgrades, where I already know what's on the system19:45
slangasekone might note that Debian/Ubuntu actually support full release upgrades, whereas distros using certain other package managers do not19:46
agrimmslangasek, FWIW, I'm talking about conary as the "other package manager", not RPM19:46
agrimm:)19:46
slangasekah ;)19:46
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