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| tumbleweed | !dmb-ping | 14:02 |
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| ubottu | bdrung, cody-somerville, Laney, micahg, barry, tumbleweed, stgraber: DMB ping | 14:02 |
| * barry pongs | 14:02 | |
| Laney | WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | 14:02 |
| * stgraber waves | 14:02 | |
| Laney | alright? | 14:03 |
| * jbicha waves | 14:03 | |
| * Laney wonders where in the world tumbleweed is now | 14:03 | |
| tumbleweed | aha, so I am chairing | 14:04 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: london! | 14:04 |
| Laney | joy of joys | 14:06 |
| tumbleweed | that's 3 so far | 14:06 |
| * micahg is here :) | 14:06 | |
| tumbleweed | oh 4 | 14:06 |
| tumbleweed | 5 even | 14:06 |
| micahg | I think bdrung and cody-somerville both said they'd be unavailable, so that's probably as good as we'll get | 14:07 |
| tumbleweed | sorry, bunch of stuff going on aronud me right now | 14:08 |
| tumbleweed | #startmeeting | 14:09 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon Jun 4 14:09:03 2012 UTC. The chair is tumbleweed. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 14:09 |
| meetingology | Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired | 14:09 |
| tumbleweed | #topic Review of previous action items | 14:09 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Review of previous action items | ||
| tumbleweed | stgraber to give cfalco PPU for btpd and mame | 14:10 |
| micahg | that's done | 14:10 |
| tumbleweed | micahg to add cfalco to ubuntu-dev | 14:10 |
| micahg | done | 14:10 |
| tumbleweed | micahg to create LP team related to the new packageset | 14:10 |
| micahg | done | 14:10 |
| tumbleweed | stgraber to create the packageset and make the new team the uploader of it | 14:10 |
| micahg | done | 14:10 |
| tumbleweed | micahg to document the packageset | 14:10 |
| micahg | not yet | 14:10 |
| tumbleweed | stgraber to review the freeze process with bencer | 14:11 |
| stgraber | poked highvoltage about it, not sure of exact status | 14:11 |
| tumbleweed | micahg to add bencer to zentyal packageset | 14:11 |
| tumbleweed | tumbleweed to chair the next meeting <- doing | 14:11 |
| tumbleweed | tumbleweed to fix membership monitoring script <- done | 14:12 |
| stgraber | bencer has been added to the zentyal packageset | 14:12 |
| micahg | added to packageset (done) | 14:12 |
| tumbleweed | cody-somerville and bdrung to vote in early meeting poll | 14:12 |
| * tumbleweed doesn't have the link for that to hand | 14:13 | |
| Laney | they aren't here, so it probably doesn't matter to much :P | 14:13 |
| Laney | too | 14:13 |
| tumbleweed | aha, bt appears only cody-somerville still needs to | 14:14 |
| tumbleweed | ok, on to applications | 14:14 |
| tumbleweed | #chair stgraber | 14:15 |
| meetingology | Current chairs: stgraber tumbleweed | 14:15 |
| * tumbleweed hands the chari to stgraber while I run down the road to a pub. will pick up from there | 14:15 | |
| stgraber | right, so applications (/me loads the agenda) | 14:15 |
| stgraber | #topic Ubuntu Contributing Developer Applications - Juan Negron | 14:16 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Contributing Developer Applications - Juan Negron | ||
| tumbleweed | jbicha first, I think | 14:16 |
| tumbleweed | oh, too late :) | 14:16 |
| stgraber | negronjl: around? | 14:16 |
| * stgraber gives negronjl a minute, then will go with jbicha | 14:17 | |
| stgraber | #topic MOTU Applications - Jeremy Bicha | 14:18 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: MOTU Applications - Jeremy Bicha | ||
| stgraber | jbicha: around? | 14:18 |
| jbicha | hi! | 14:18 |
| stgraber | hey, can you introduce yourself quickly? (I think we all know you, but still ... :)) | 14:19 |
| jbicha | I help package GNOME with the Ubuntu Desktop Team and I maintain ubuntu-docs. | 14:19 |
| jbicha | I'm applying for MOTU because some GNOME-related stuff is in universe & not really suitable for the desktop-extra packageset | 14:21 |
| jbicha | MOTU also is nice for getting new stuff into Ubuntu, and for the other interesting universe packages | 14:22 |
| Laney | hrm, unofficial stuff I guess? | 14:22 |
| Laney | Nothing you'd need for the new flavour, for example/ | 14:22 |
| jbicha | yes | 14:22 |
| jbicha | the new GNOME flavor if approved would probably overlap with the desktop-extra set | 14:23 |
| Laney | I hope we can keep it contained within main + desktop-extra | 14:23 |
| jbicha | but there will still be universe stuff I'm interested in that won't be in either of those two sets | 14:24 |
| Laney | sure | 14:24 |
| micahg | jbicha: how much experience have you had with non-GNOME related packaging | 14:24 |
| jbicha | what I mean is that I'm not sure we need the desktop-extra set if we have a "gnomebuntu" set | 14:24 |
| micahg | well, also, if there's a new flavor, there's a new seed metapackage (and desktop-extra might disappear) | 14:25 |
| Laney | if it comes with a fancy auto generated package set, that is very possible | 14:26 |
| jbicha | micahg: most of what I've worked on has been GNOME, but I've occasionally worked with other things | 14:27 |
| jbicha | my first Ubuntu upload was for moodle for instance & I worked with the kabikaboo maintainer to get that into Debian & then Ubuntu | 14:28 |
| jbicha | kabikaboo is a python app for writing novels and such | 14:29 |
| jbicha | the GNOME stuff usually uses cdbs but I'm fairly comfortable with dh7 as well | 14:30 |
| micahg | jbicha: is there any reason why you only have one endorsement? | 14:32 |
| jbicha | micahg: I didn't do a good job of finding endorsements | 14:33 |
| jbicha | for universe stuff, it looks like dholbach did most of the sponsoring | 14:34 |
| * dholbach hugs jbicha :) | 14:34 | |
| dholbach | as long as i can remember I never had to ask jbicha to re-do any of his work | 14:35 |
| dholbach | it was AFAICR tip top work | 14:35 |
| Laney | jbicha: Do you think you'll get involved with other stuff MOTU does? | 14:36 |
| dholbach | and he has had upload rights for desktop related stuff for quite a while | 14:36 |
| * ScottK feels comfortable with jbicha as MOTU as well. | 14:36 | |
| jbicha | Laney: what other stuff? | 14:36 |
| Laney | mentoring initiatives, sponsoring and stuff like that | 14:36 |
| Laney | QA activities especially nearer the release | 14:36 |
| * tumbleweed returns | 14:37 | |
| jbicha | yes I'd like to sponsor more stuff, getting new contributors included is important | 14:37 |
| jbicha | I look at the nbs and ftbfs trackers and try to fix things where I can | 14:39 |
| Laney | the active team is pretty small these days, so people are always needed to pitch in with the leg work | 14:39 |
| barry | jbicha: what's the best python build helper to use these days? | 14:39 |
| jbicha | barry: dh_python2 :) | 14:39 |
| barry | jbicha: good answer :) from a technical (not process) point of view, how would you convert from say py_support or py_central to dh_py2? | 14:40 |
| jbicha | I basically follow the checklist at http://wiki.debian.org/Python/TransitionToDHPython2 | 14:41 |
| jbicha | remove pycentral and pysupport from debian/control and fix debian/rules | 14:41 |
| barry | jbicha: two-for-two :) from a process point of view, how would you handle cases where the debian package uses pysupport or pycentral, but the ubuntu version wants to use dhpy2? | 14:42 |
| jbicha | generally I'd try to get the change into Debian first | 14:43 |
| barry | jbicha: what if the debian maintainer doesn't want to use dhpy2, or doesn't respond after a reasonable amount of time? | 14:44 |
| jbicha | well python-support and pycentral are deprecated so the Debian maintainer ought to consider switching | 14:46 |
| jbicha | unless the package is shipped on a CD, I don't think dhpy2 alone is worth having a diff from Debian | 14:47 |
| micahg | jbicha: do you know how to tell if images are affected by your uploads? (MOTU can break everything except for Desktop and Kubuntu ATM) | 14:47 |
| barry | jbicha: you're applying for motu, but do you think main v universe influences that decision? | 14:47 |
| jbicha | I've just learned to use seeded-in-ubuntu for that | 14:48 |
| jbicha | barry: yes, I don't think we want pysupport or pycentral in main at all and we would diverge from Debian to make that happen | 14:49 |
| stgraber | jbicha: are you subscribed to ubuntu-devel-announce and reading it at least daily? | 14:49 |
| barry | jbicha: thanks for your answers | 14:49 |
| jbicha | stgraber: yes, I'm on too many mailing lists :) | 14:49 |
| * barry thinks you can never be on too many mailing lists :) | 14:50 | |
| * micahg subscribes barry to lkml | 14:50 | |
| stgraber | jbicha: good. Also, would you be allowed to upload non-critical changes to a seeded package in quantal today? | 14:51 |
| jbicha | stgraber: it's probably a bad idea since we're trying to get Alpha 1 out the door this week | 14:51 |
| stgraber | good :) | 14:53 |
| Laney | vote? | 14:55 |
| stgraber | sounds good | 14:56 |
| Laney | go go co-chair | 14:56 |
| stgraber | #vote MOTU for jbicha | 14:56 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: MOTU for jbicha | 14:56 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) | 14:56 |
| stgraber | +1 | 14:56 |
| meetingology | +1 received from stgraber | 14:56 |
| Laney | +1 | 14:57 |
| meetingology | +1 received from Laney | 14:57 |
| micahg | +0, would've liked to have seen more endorsements and more non-GNOME related work | 14:57 |
| meetingology | +0, would've liked to have seen more endorsements and more non-GNOME related work received from micahg | 14:57 |
| barry | +1 | 14:57 |
| meetingology | +1 received from barry | 14:57 |
| stgraber | waiting a bit longer for tumbleweed to reappear | 14:58 |
| tumbleweed | +1 | 14:58 |
| meetingology | +1 received from tumbleweed | 14:58 |
| stgraber | #endvote | 14:59 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: MOTU for jbicha | 14:59 |
| meetingology | Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1 | 14:59 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 14:59 |
| Laney | \o | 15:00 |
| jbicha | thank you! | 15:00 |
| barry | jbicha: congrats! | 15:00 |
| stgraber | added to the team | 15:01 |
| Laney | dholbach: get the publicity out! | 15:01 |
| tumbleweed | #topic Any other Business? | 15:01 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Any other Business? | ||
| tumbleweed | negronjl still appears to be missing | 15:01 |
| dholbach | yeehaw | 15:01 |
| dholbach | congratulations | 15:01 |
| tumbleweed | ~rodrigo-moya appears to have expired from ubuntu-dev | 15:01 |
| xnox | well there isn't much time left anyway =) | 15:01 |
| tumbleweed | stgraber: can you remove his PPU rights? | 15:02 |
| tumbleweed | xnox: we have a nasty habit of running over | 15:02 |
| * Laney warms the fire for xnox next time | 15:02 | |
| stgraber | tumbleweed: yep | 15:02 |
| tumbleweed | (by an hour or so) | 15:02 |
| tumbleweed | next chair: stgraber? | 15:02 |
| * xnox notes down to bring olive oil and herbs for Laney | 15:02 | |
| Laney | sounds good | 15:03 |
| stgraber | tumbleweed: sure | 15:03 |
| tumbleweed | anything else? | 15:03 |
| barry | xnox: are you cooking for us? maybe we should make that a requirement for all applicants | 15:03 |
| xnox | barry: I believe Laney is setting me on fire, during the next meeting.... | 15:04 |
| stgraber | tumbleweed: maybe I'm blind but I'm not seeing any PPU for jbicha, only membership in -desktop and -desktop-extra-dev | 15:04 |
| tumbleweed | stgraber: rodrigo-moya | 15:04 |
| stgraber | tumbleweed: ah! | 15:04 |
| * stgraber should read more than just the hilights | 15:04 | |
| * tumbleweed mailed the list, abou tit | 15:05 | |
| stgraber | tumbleweed: rodrigo is also still in ubuntu-desktop | 15:05 |
| tumbleweed | right. but he was in ubuntu-dev for PPU, so either we re-instate him into ubuntu-dev or remove the PPU rights | 15:06 |
| stgraber | ok, removed | 15:06 |
| stgraber | he just had two, couchdb-glib and evolution-couchdb | 15:06 |
| tumbleweed | great, thanks | 15:07 |
| tumbleweed | #endmeeting | 15:07 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Jun 4 15:07:16 2012 UTC. | 15:07 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-04-14.09.moin.txt | 15:07 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-04-14.09.html | 15:07 |
| barry | thanks tumbleweed | 15:07 |
| tumbleweed | thanks stgraber :) | 15:07 |
| tumbleweed | welcome jbicha | 15:07 |
| ScottK | congratulations jbicha. | 15:08 |
| negronjl | apologies for the "no show", I read 19:00 UTC instead of 14:00 UTC ... I'll add myself to the next meeting ... I'll make sure to read the correct time this time around :/ | 15:50 |
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| jdstrand | hi! | 18:00 |
| jdstrand | #startmeeting | 18:00 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon Jun 4 18:00:52 2012 UTC. The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 18:00 |
| meetingology | Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired | 18:00 |
| mdeslaur | hello | 18:00 |
| tyhicks | hello | 18:01 |
| sbeattie | o/ | 18:01 |
| jdstrand | The meeting agenda can be found at: | 18:01 |
| jdstrand | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting | 18:01 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Review of any previous action items | 18:01 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Review of any previous action items | ||
| jdstrand | ACTION: desktop team requested that our regular mozilla testing happen by a certain date | 18:02 |
| jjohansen | \o | 18:02 |
| jdstrand | micahg: can you explain what came of this? ^ | 18:02 |
| jdstrand | s/explain/describe/ | 18:02 |
| micahg | sure, we decided that we will do partial testing on weeks 4 and 5 of the 6 week mozilla cycle (ending up in full coverage) in order to catch any show stoppers before release week | 18:03 |
| jdstrand | micahg: the sum of the partial testing is such that it is not more than 1 full test run. correct? | 18:04 |
| micahg | correct | 18:04 |
| jdstrand | that's great. it is consistent with what we wanted in terms of testing and also gives everyone more confidence all along | 18:05 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report | 18:05 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report | ||
| jdstrand | micahg: thanks | 18:05 |
| jdstrand | I'll go first | 18:05 |
| jdstrand | I'm in the happy place this week. I am focussing on updates and embargoed issues | 18:06 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: you're up | 18:06 |
| mdeslaur | I'm on triage this week | 18:07 |
| mdeslaur | I just finished publishing update-manager | 18:07 |
| mdeslaur | and am currently working on bind9 | 18:07 |
| mdeslaur | I also have an embargoed issue to continue massive testing | 18:07 |
| mdeslaur | and have postgresql and mysql updates to publish too | 18:07 |
| mdeslaur | that's it from me | 18:07 |
| mdeslaur | sbeattie: you're up | 18:07 |
| sbeattie | I'm in the happy place this week | 18:07 |
| sbeattie | I have an embargoed issue on my plate. | 18:08 |
| sbeattie | I also need to start on the openjdk-6 backport to older releases | 18:08 |
| sbeattie | I'll try to pick up another update as well. | 18:09 |
| sbeattie | that's it for me. | 18:09 |
| sbeattie | micahg: you're up | 18:09 |
| micahg | Mozilla release week (Firefox/Thunderbird), still working on Chromium, then webkit | 18:10 |
| mdeslaur | micahg: what's the status with webkit? | 18:10 |
| micahg | umm...precise is ready, just waiting for me to grab the CVEs associated and upload | 18:11 |
| micahg | anything else for me? | 18:13 |
| mdeslaur | who's next? tyhicks? | 18:14 |
| tyhicks | yep | 18:15 |
| tyhicks | I'm in the community role this week | 18:15 |
| tyhicks | Due to my shortened work week last week, I wasn't able to put the 'done' stamp on some of the things I was working on, so I need to put finishing touches on a few things still | 18:15 |
| tyhicks | The eCryptfs zero-length file patches is one of those things | 18:16 |
| tyhicks | I'm in the process of reviewing a big eCryptfs patch that cking forward ported which really gives eCryptfs performance a huge boost | 18:17 |
| tyhicks | He did just an awesome job of performance testing the patch on several different machines so I'm trying to get a quick response back to him | 18:17 |
| tyhicks | The pidgin update is still pending | 18:18 |
| tyhicks | and I plan on starting the LUKS work item | 18:18 |
| tyhicks | that's it | 18:18 |
| tyhicks | jjohansen: you're up | 18:18 |
| jjohansen | I have an embargo issue I am working on | 18:18 |
| jjohansen | I need to wrap up my kernel team base wi so I can mark them done | 18:18 |
| jjohansen | I will get back to finishing up the userspace policy matching wi | 18:18 |
| jjohansen | I think that is for /me jdstrand back to you | 18:19 |
| jdstrand | sbeattie: the last coupel weeks you had apparmor sru listed, but I didn't see it this week. does that mean it is done? | 18:21 |
| sbeattie | jdstrand: no, I need to work on that, too. | 18:22 |
| jjohansen | jdstrand: though if we are just pulling in patches, there may not be much to do | 18:23 |
| * jjohansen should have added he needs to rewrite the apparmor release process notes before he forgets how, after the lp + bzr fun of the 2.8 release | 18:24 | |
| mdeslaur | who's going to push AA 2.8 to quantal? | 18:25 |
| sbeattie | jjohansen: do you have any more patches for the SRU? | 18:25 |
| sbeattie | mdeslaur: I can work on it. | 18:26 |
| jjohansen | sbeattie: no not at this time, I have some regression test additions that aren't quite done etc, but nothing critical | 18:26 |
| mdeslaur | sbeattie: cool | 18:26 |
| sbeattie | jjohansen: okay | 18:27 |
| jjohansen | sbeattie: just stick with 2.8, and we can update with 2.8.1 later | 18:27 |
| sbeattie | jjohansen: sure | 18:28 |
| sbeattie | (for the SRU, I'm cherry-picking anyway) | 18:29 |
| jdstrand | ok, shall we move on? | 18:30 |
| jjohansen | yes | 18:31 |
| mdeslaur | yes, thanks | 18:31 |
| sbeattie | yes | 18:31 |
| jdstrand | thanks | 18:31 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Highlighted packages | 18:31 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages | ||
| jdstrand | The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. | 18:32 |
| jdstrand | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. | 18:32 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/ziproxy.html | 18:32 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/fusionforge.html | 18:32 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/aria2.html | 18:32 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/mosh.html | 18:32 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/torcs.html | 18:32 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions | 18:32 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Miscellaneous and Questions | ||
| jdstrand | There are a lot of merge opportunities for packages listed in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/d2u/. Performing these updates is a great way to help Ubuntu and bolster your developer application. | 18:33 |
| jdstrand | Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? | 18:33 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur, sbeattie, micahg, tyhicks, jjohansen: thanks! | 18:38 |
| jdstrand | #endmeeting | 18:38 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Jun 4 18:38:42 2012 UTC. | 18:38 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-04-18.00.moin.txt | 18:38 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-04-18.00.html | 18:38 |
| jjohansen | thanks jdstrand | 18:38 |
| sbeattie | thanks jdstrand! | 18:39 |
| mdeslaur | thanks jdstrand | 18:40 |
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