=== smb` is now known as smb === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === Guest33157 is now known as Adri2000 === wet-chan is now known as wet === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:02] !dmb-ping [14:02] bdrung, cody-somerville, Laney, micahg, barry, tumbleweed, stgraber: DMB ping [14:02] * barry pongs [14:02] WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [14:02] * stgraber waves [14:03] alright? [14:03] * jbicha waves [14:03] * Laney wonders where in the world tumbleweed is now [14:04] aha, so I am chairing [14:04] Laney: london! [14:06] joy of joys [14:06] that's 3 so far [14:06] * micahg is here :) [14:06] oh 4 [14:06] 5 even [14:07] I think bdrung and cody-somerville both said they'd be unavailable, so that's probably as good as we'll get [14:08] sorry, bunch of stuff going on aronud me right now [14:09] #startmeeting [14:09] Meeting started Mon Jun 4 14:09:03 2012 UTC. The chair is tumbleweed. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [14:09] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [14:09] #topic Review of previous action items === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Review of previous action items [14:10] stgraber to give cfalco PPU for btpd and mame [14:10] that's done [14:10] micahg to add cfalco to ubuntu-dev [14:10] done [14:10] micahg to create LP team related to the new packageset [14:10] done [14:10] stgraber to create the packageset and make the new team the uploader of it [14:10] done [14:10] micahg to document the packageset [14:10] not yet [14:11] stgraber to review the freeze process with bencer [14:11] poked highvoltage about it, not sure of exact status [14:11] micahg to add bencer to zentyal packageset [14:11] tumbleweed to chair the next meeting <- doing [14:12] tumbleweed to fix membership monitoring script <- done [14:12] bencer has been added to the zentyal packageset [14:12] added to packageset (done) [14:12] cody-somerville and bdrung to vote in early meeting poll [14:13] * tumbleweed doesn't have the link for that to hand [14:13] they aren't here, so it probably doesn't matter to much :P [14:13] too [14:14] aha, bt appears only cody-somerville still needs to [14:14] ok, on to applications [14:15] #chair stgraber [14:15] Current chairs: stgraber tumbleweed [14:15] * tumbleweed hands the chari to stgraber while I run down the road to a pub. will pick up from there [14:15] right, so applications (/me loads the agenda) [14:16] #topic Ubuntu Contributing Developer Applications - Juan Negron === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Contributing Developer Applications - Juan Negron [14:16] jbicha first, I think [14:16] oh, too late :) [14:16] negronjl: around? [14:17] * stgraber gives negronjl a minute, then will go with jbicha [14:18] #topic MOTU Applications - Jeremy Bicha === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: MOTU Applications - Jeremy Bicha [14:18] jbicha: around? [14:18] hi! [14:19] hey, can you introduce yourself quickly? (I think we all know you, but still ... :)) [14:19] I help package GNOME with the Ubuntu Desktop Team and I maintain ubuntu-docs. [14:21] I'm applying for MOTU because some GNOME-related stuff is in universe & not really suitable for the desktop-extra packageset [14:22] MOTU also is nice for getting new stuff into Ubuntu, and for the other interesting universe packages [14:22] hrm, unofficial stuff I guess? [14:22] Nothing you'd need for the new flavour, for example/ [14:22] yes [14:23] the new GNOME flavor if approved would probably overlap with the desktop-extra set [14:23] I hope we can keep it contained within main + desktop-extra [14:24] but there will still be universe stuff I'm interested in that won't be in either of those two sets [14:24] sure [14:24] jbicha: how much experience have you had with non-GNOME related packaging [14:24] what I mean is that I'm not sure we need the desktop-extra set if we have a "gnomebuntu" set [14:25] well, also, if there's a new flavor, there's a new seed metapackage (and desktop-extra might disappear) [14:26] if it comes with a fancy auto generated package set, that is very possible [14:27] micahg: most of what I've worked on has been GNOME, but I've occasionally worked with other things [14:28] my first Ubuntu upload was for moodle for instance & I worked with the kabikaboo maintainer to get that into Debian & then Ubuntu [14:29] kabikaboo is a python app for writing novels and such [14:30] the GNOME stuff usually uses cdbs but I'm fairly comfortable with dh7 as well [14:32] jbicha: is there any reason why you only have one endorsement? [14:33] micahg: I didn't do a good job of finding endorsements [14:34] for universe stuff, it looks like dholbach did most of the sponsoring [14:34] * dholbach hugs jbicha :) [14:35] as long as i can remember I never had to ask jbicha to re-do any of his work [14:35] it was AFAICR tip top work [14:36] jbicha: Do you think you'll get involved with other stuff MOTU does? [14:36] and he has had upload rights for desktop related stuff for quite a while [14:36] * ScottK feels comfortable with jbicha as MOTU as well. [14:36] Laney: what other stuff? [14:36] mentoring initiatives, sponsoring and stuff like that [14:36] QA activities especially nearer the release [14:37] * tumbleweed returns [14:37] yes I'd like to sponsor more stuff, getting new contributors included is important [14:39] I look at the nbs and ftbfs trackers and try to fix things where I can [14:39] the active team is pretty small these days, so people are always needed to pitch in with the leg work [14:39] jbicha: what's the best python build helper to use these days? [14:39] barry: dh_python2 :) [14:40] jbicha: good answer :) from a technical (not process) point of view, how would you convert from say py_support or py_central to dh_py2? [14:41] I basically follow the checklist at http://wiki.debian.org/Python/TransitionToDHPython2 [14:41] remove pycentral and pysupport from debian/control and fix debian/rules [14:42] jbicha: two-for-two :) from a process point of view, how would you handle cases where the debian package uses pysupport or pycentral, but the ubuntu version wants to use dhpy2? [14:43] generally I'd try to get the change into Debian first [14:44] jbicha: what if the debian maintainer doesn't want to use dhpy2, or doesn't respond after a reasonable amount of time? [14:46] well python-support and pycentral are deprecated so the Debian maintainer ought to consider switching [14:47] unless the package is shipped on a CD, I don't think dhpy2 alone is worth having a diff from Debian [14:47] jbicha: do you know how to tell if images are affected by your uploads? (MOTU can break everything except for Desktop and Kubuntu ATM) [14:47] jbicha: you're applying for motu, but do you think main v universe influences that decision? [14:48] I've just learned to use seeded-in-ubuntu for that [14:49] barry: yes, I don't think we want pysupport or pycentral in main at all and we would diverge from Debian to make that happen [14:49] jbicha: are you subscribed to ubuntu-devel-announce and reading it at least daily? [14:49] jbicha: thanks for your answers [14:49] stgraber: yes, I'm on too many mailing lists :) [14:50] * barry thinks you can never be on too many mailing lists :) [14:50] * micahg subscribes barry to lkml [14:51] jbicha: good. Also, would you be allowed to upload non-critical changes to a seeded package in quantal today? [14:51] stgraber: it's probably a bad idea since we're trying to get Alpha 1 out the door this week [14:53] good :) [14:55] vote? [14:56] sounds good [14:56] go go co-chair [14:56] #vote MOTU for jbicha [14:56] Please vote on: MOTU for jbicha [14:56] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [14:56] +1 [14:56] +1 received from stgraber [14:57] +1 [14:57] +1 received from Laney [14:57] +0, would've liked to have seen more endorsements and more non-GNOME related work [14:57] +0, would've liked to have seen more endorsements and more non-GNOME related work received from micahg [14:57] +1 [14:57] +1 received from barry [14:58] waiting a bit longer for tumbleweed to reappear [14:58] +1 [14:58] +1 received from tumbleweed [14:59] #endvote [14:59] Voting ended on: MOTU for jbicha [14:59] Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1 [14:59] Motion carried [15:00] \o [15:00] thank you! [15:00] jbicha: congrats! [15:01] added to the team [15:01] dholbach: get the publicity out! [15:01] #topic Any other Business? === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Any other Business? [15:01] negronjl still appears to be missing [15:01] yeehaw [15:01] congratulations [15:01] ~rodrigo-moya appears to have expired from ubuntu-dev [15:01] well there isn't much time left anyway =) [15:02] stgraber: can you remove his PPU rights? [15:02] xnox: we have a nasty habit of running over [15:02] * Laney warms the fire for xnox next time [15:02] tumbleweed: yep [15:02] (by an hour or so) [15:02] next chair: stgraber? [15:02] * xnox notes down to bring olive oil and herbs for Laney [15:03] sounds good [15:03] tumbleweed: sure [15:03] anything else? [15:03] xnox: are you cooking for us? maybe we should make that a requirement for all applicants [15:04] barry: I believe Laney is setting me on fire, during the next meeting.... [15:04] tumbleweed: maybe I'm blind but I'm not seeing any PPU for jbicha, only membership in -desktop and -desktop-extra-dev [15:04] stgraber: rodrigo-moya [15:04] tumbleweed: ah! [15:04] * stgraber should read more than just the hilights [15:05] * tumbleweed mailed the list, abou tit [15:05] tumbleweed: rodrigo is also still in ubuntu-desktop [15:06] right. but he was in ubuntu-dev for PPU, so either we re-instate him into ubuntu-dev or remove the PPU rights [15:06] ok, removed [15:06] he just had two, couchdb-glib and evolution-couchdb [15:07] great, thanks [15:07] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [15:07] Meeting ended Mon Jun 4 15:07:16 2012 UTC. [15:07] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-04-14.09.moin.txt [15:07] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-04-14.09.html [15:07] thanks tumbleweed [15:07] thanks stgraber :) [15:07] welcome jbicha [15:08] congratulations jbicha. [15:50] apologies for the "no show", I read 19:00 UTC instead of 14:00 UTC ... I'll add myself to the next meeting ... I'll make sure to read the correct time this time around :/ === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [18:00] hi! [18:00] #startmeeting [18:00] Meeting started Mon Jun 4 18:00:52 2012 UTC. The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [18:00] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [18:00] hello [18:01] hello [18:01] o/ [18:01] The meeting agenda can be found at: [18:01] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting [18:01] [TOPIC] Review of any previous action items === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Review of any previous action items [18:02] ACTION: desktop team requested that our regular mozilla testing happen by a certain date [18:02] \o [18:02] micahg: can you explain what came of this? ^ [18:02] s/explain/describe/ [18:03] sure, we decided that we will do partial testing on weeks 4 and 5 of the 6 week mozilla cycle (ending up in full coverage) in order to catch any show stoppers before release week [18:04] micahg: the sum of the partial testing is such that it is not more than 1 full test run. correct? [18:04] correct [18:05] that's great. it is consistent with what we wanted in terms of testing and also gives everyone more confidence all along [18:05] [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report [18:05] micahg: thanks [18:05] I'll go first [18:06] I'm in the happy place this week. I am focussing on updates and embargoed issues [18:06] mdeslaur: you're up [18:07] I'm on triage this week [18:07] I just finished publishing update-manager [18:07] and am currently working on bind9 [18:07] I also have an embargoed issue to continue massive testing [18:07] and have postgresql and mysql updates to publish too [18:07] that's it from me [18:07] sbeattie: you're up [18:07] I'm in the happy place this week [18:08] I have an embargoed issue on my plate. [18:08] I also need to start on the openjdk-6 backport to older releases [18:09] I'll try to pick up another update as well. [18:09] that's it for me. [18:09] micahg: you're up [18:10] Mozilla release week (Firefox/Thunderbird), still working on Chromium, then webkit [18:10] micahg: what's the status with webkit? [18:11] umm...precise is ready, just waiting for me to grab the CVEs associated and upload [18:13] anything else for me? [18:14] who's next? tyhicks? [18:15] yep [18:15] I'm in the community role this week [18:15] Due to my shortened work week last week, I wasn't able to put the 'done' stamp on some of the things I was working on, so I need to put finishing touches on a few things still [18:16] The eCryptfs zero-length file patches is one of those things [18:17] I'm in the process of reviewing a big eCryptfs patch that cking forward ported which really gives eCryptfs performance a huge boost [18:17] He did just an awesome job of performance testing the patch on several different machines so I'm trying to get a quick response back to him [18:18] The pidgin update is still pending [18:18] and I plan on starting the LUKS work item [18:18] that's it [18:18] jjohansen: you're up [18:18] I have an embargo issue I am working on [18:18] I need to wrap up my kernel team base wi so I can mark them done [18:18] I will get back to finishing up the userspace policy matching wi [18:19] I think that is for /me jdstrand back to you [18:21] sbeattie: the last coupel weeks you had apparmor sru listed, but I didn't see it this week. does that mean it is done? [18:22] jdstrand: no, I need to work on that, too. [18:23] jdstrand: though if we are just pulling in patches, there may not be much to do [18:24] * jjohansen should have added he needs to rewrite the apparmor release process notes before he forgets how, after the lp + bzr fun of the 2.8 release [18:25] who's going to push AA 2.8 to quantal? [18:25] jjohansen: do you have any more patches for the SRU? [18:26] mdeslaur: I can work on it. [18:26] sbeattie: no not at this time, I have some regression test additions that aren't quite done etc, but nothing critical [18:26] sbeattie: cool [18:27] jjohansen: okay [18:27] sbeattie: just stick with 2.8, and we can update with 2.8.1 later [18:28] jjohansen: sure [18:29] (for the SRU, I'm cherry-picking anyway) [18:30] ok, shall we move on? [18:31] yes [18:31] yes, thanks [18:31] yes [18:31] thanks [18:31] [TOPIC] Highlighted packages === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages [18:32] The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. [18:32] See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. [18:32] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/ziproxy.html [18:32] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/fusionforge.html [18:32] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/aria2.html [18:32] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/mosh.html [18:32] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/torcs.html [18:32] [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Miscellaneous and Questions [18:33] There are a lot of merge opportunities for packages listed in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/d2u/. Performing these updates is a great way to help Ubuntu and bolster your developer application. [18:33] Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? [18:38] mdeslaur, sbeattie, micahg, tyhicks, jjohansen: thanks! [18:38] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [18:38] Meeting ended Mon Jun 4 18:38:42 2012 UTC. [18:38] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-04-18.00.moin.txt [18:38] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-04-18.00.html [18:38] thanks jdstrand [18:39] thanks jdstrand! [18:40] thanks jdstrand