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* tumbleweed waves bug 1008271 at jtaylor01:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1008271 in python-scipy (Ubuntu) "Bump to 0.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100827101:09
shubhamhello01:09
shubhami am new to using irc so excuse me if i am to verbose01:10
shubhami want to try fixing a bug in natilus01:10
shubham#nautilus01:10
shubhami want to ask where should i get the source from01:11
shubhamshould i use github ?01:11
shubhamanyone01:12
tumbleweedbzr branch lp:ubuntu/nautilus01:13
shubhamthanks01:13
tumbleweedsee http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/fixing-a-bug.html01:13
shubham@tumbleweed Thanks for the link i will look into the page01:14
tumbleweednp01:15
* tumbleweed goes to bed01:15
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dholbachgood morning07:02
gesergood morning dholbach07:04
dholbachhey geser07:04
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iulianMorning dholbach, geser.08:09
dholbachhey iulian08:09
iulianOh, it's Monday already.08:10
iulianHmm.08:10
Laneyyeah, how did that happen?08:11
Zhenechthey skipped the weeked for some booze I heard08:17
Zhenechstupid gods08:17
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vibhavtumbleweed: You there?13:07
tumbleweedyes, hi13:11
vibhavtumbleweed: I uploaded a debdiff (lucid) for bug 569514 , you might want to see it13:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 569514 in calamaris (Ubuntu Natty) "Doesn't work for squid3 logs" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56951413:15
tumbleweedvibhav: where's the SRU paperwork? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure13:17
tumbleweedalso. the version still needs to changed, the same version is published in lucid and natty13:17
kendfingerHas OpenSSH 6.0 been uploaded?14:24
Laney!info openssh quantal14:25
ubottuPackage openssh does not exist in quantal14:25
Laneyutter lies14:25
Laneyyes, it has.14:25
kendfingerCool! Thanks!14:26
kendfingeropenssh-client is what I meant.14:27
Laneymaybe that bot works on binary packages, indeed14:29
Laney!info openssh-client quantal14:29
ubottuopenssh-client (source: openssh): secure shell (SSH) client, for secure access to remote machines. In component main, is standard. Version 1:5.9p1-5ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 937 kB, installed size 2297 kB14:29
Laneyseems out of date14:30
kendfingerI am pretty sure that is wrong!14:33
Zhenechopenssh-server | 1:6.0p1-1ubuntu1 |       quantal | amd64, armel, armhf, i386, powerpc14:33
Zhenechthats what rmadisson says14:34
Laneyyeah14:41
LaneyPici: ^^^^^ the bot is out of date :(14:41
PiciLaney: I'll see what I caan do.14:43
Laneycheers boss14:43
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AmberJ_Hello16:05
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AmberJ_I manually built a program and then did 'checkinstall' (essentially 'make install') to create a deb. The deb file has a lib/libpln.so of size ~47MB.16:09
AmberJ_I created another deb using debuild and the same lib/libpln.so file is only ~2MB.16:09
AmberJ_Why is there this vast difference in file sizes of same file?16:09
AmberJ_In fact size of every file in lib/ created with checkinstall is greater than corresponding files created with debuild...16:09
azeem_AmberJ_: maybe the checkinstall files are unstripped?16:13
AmberJazeem_: "unstripped"?16:21
azeem_yes16:21
ogra_dressed :)16:21
azeem_run "file" on both and compare the output16:21
jtaylorAmberJ: debug symbols are still in16:22
jtaylorremoving them is called stripping16:22
jtaylorwhich is done by dh_strip during normal build16:22
ogra_(and has nothing to do with dresses, despite my bad joke above :) )16:24
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AmberJThanks jtaylor, very well explained. And azeem_'s 'file' explained the rest.16:55
AmberJogra_: I'll leave it to others to decide if that was a bad joke :D Thanks16:57
ogra_:)16:58
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AmberJWhat's an indep (independent?) binary?19:40
jtaylorsomething that is architecture independent19:41
jtaylor= it runs everywhere without recompile19:41
AmberJah19:41
jtaylorusually interpreted stuff like python or cli19:41
jtayloror documentation19:41
AmberJok19:43
AmberJI use 'bzr dh-make' to setup debian/ templates... What should I choose if I plan to split upstream into multiple debs: multiple binary or library ?19:43
jtaylorprobably multiple binary19:44
AmberJI mean that upstream has multiple binary executables and libraries19:44
jtaylorunless its a library19:44
jtaylorhm thats more complicated19:44
jtaylorare the libraries "public" = they can be used by other programs too19:44
AmberJjtaylor: yes, those libraries can be used independently without the need for other upstream 'components'.19:47
jtaylork it should still be similar to the multiple binary package except that you build library packages from it too19:48
AmberJThat's why we plan to separate them into separate packages. Roughly speaking, any library that can be used independently goes in a separate package (and the same applies to executables)19:48
jtaylorwhich means following all conventions for them19:48
jtaylorcorrect library packaging is quite timeconsuming19:48
AmberJI guess I should choose "multiple binary" and then use $package.install to fine tune library packages (?)19:49
jtayloryes19:49
jtayloryou can create both templates to see what dh_make would give you19:49
AmberJyes, that's a nice way t see how dh_make handles both19:50
AmberJ*to19:50
AmberJThanks :)19:50
AmberJTried both dh_make templates. It seems I'll need to combine template files from both templates20:15
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jbichabdrung: light-themes was already uploaded to precise-proposed, it's just waiting in the queue22:31
bdrungjbicha: thanks. then it's less to do for me22:34
bdrungjbicha: btw, the current light-themes version still has some issues (background color of icons of selected apps wrong in the application selector)22:35

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