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cnd | Jonii, dandrader is working on a bunch of new features for Unity for Ubuntu 12.10 | 14:17 |
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cnd | you can follow the raw development if you want | 14:18 |
cnd | and ask questions on the multi-touch-dev@lists.launchpad.net mailing list | 14:18 |
cnd | dandrader, bregma: howdy | 14:18 |
bregma | yous is back | 14:19 |
cnd | yeah | 14:19 |
bregma | how went the sprint? | 14:19 |
cnd | it was alright | 14:19 |
cnd | half of us were in lex half in london | 14:20 |
cnd | that was kinda a pain | 14:20 |
bregma | excellent | 14:20 |
cnd | but oh well | 14:20 |
bregma | this is the future of collaboration, I suspect | 14:20 |
cnd | I'm quite sore from helping my sister move in and put ikea furniture together though | 14:20 |
bregma | allen key strain? | 14:20 |
cnd | that and many others :) | 14:21 |
dandrader | assembling ikea furniture is fun | 14:21 |
cnd | anyway, how was things last week? | 14:21 |
cnd | anything notable? | 14:21 |
* cnd hasn't gotten through email yet | 14:21 | |
bregma | it wwas quiet | 14:21 |
dandrader | cnd, big merge proposal waiting for your opinion :) -> https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/nux/geis/+merge/108239 | 14:22 |
cnd | dandrader, cool! | 14:23 |
cnd | I'll take a look today | 14:23 |
bregma | last Monday was a holiday everywhere in the universe except Canada and the UK, nobody seemed able to get motivated after that | 14:23 |
cnd | it also wasn't a holiday in lexington :( | 14:23 |
bregma | swap days! | 14:23 |
cnd | heh | 14:23 |
bregma | I guess it's that New England work ethic at play | 14:24 |
cnd | so about the big issue: I don't have any news yet, still waiting on answers from legal | 14:24 |
* cnd is trying to be discreet about it on this channel | 14:25 | |
bregma | some good news is I SRUd a libgrip crasher | 14:25 |
cnd | yay | 14:25 |
bregma | it took me two days of intense debugging to track it down, it was a one-line fix | 14:25 |
bregma | I find GTK challenging in a bad way | 14:26 |
cnd | heh | 14:26 |
cnd | it sounds like there are a lot of hidden issues in gtk that only a gtk developer would know about | 14:27 |
bregma | only some subset of gtk developer, no one can know all of the hidden issues | 14:27 |
bregma | I'm hoping the legal issue can be resolved in a way that avoids us having to change code | 14:28 |
cnd | me too | 14:30 |
cnd | I've made it clear that some changes will balloon the effort from a little inconvenience to a couple weeks of one FTE depending on how much change is needed | 14:31 |
bregma | yes | 14:31 |
dandrader | cnd, what's FTE? | 14:32 |
cnd | full time engineer | 14:33 |
cnd | it's an abstract way of saying how much work would be required | 14:33 |
dandrader | yeah, like "man hours" | 14:34 |
xerent | dandrader: engineers are not men. we are supermen. ;) | 15:11 |
dandrader | specially a full-time one :) | 15:12 |
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dandrader | If a geis client specifies just one gesture class per subscription it will never get a gesture with more than one gesture class, right? | 15:53 |
dandrader | cnd, ^ | 15:53 |
cnd | dandrader, bregma may know the full answer | 16:07 |
cnd | I'm not sure | 16:07 |
cnd | but I think you're correct | 16:07 |
cnd | because grail won't specify a gesture type that wasn't in the subscription | 16:07 |
bregma | dandrader, you are correct | 16:09 |
dandrader | ok | 16:10 |
Jonii | t | 16:18 |
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Jonii | t | 16:18 |
Jonii | sorry | 16:18 |
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doug | is it possible to hook the touch stuff up to a random TUIO stream to get multitouch working? | 17:48 |
cnd | doug, does tuio report data as uinput devices through the kernel? | 17:58 |
cnd | or does it provide an X driver? | 17:59 |
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doug | cnd: neither, currently. i've just got a UDP stream of TUIO events... | 18:35 |
cnd | doug, then you would either have to build a utouch-frame backend for TUIO | 18:46 |
cnd | or you would have to create a TUIO xserver input module | 18:47 |
cnd | or send the events through the kernel using uinput | 18:47 |
doug | hm, which is the easier route there? | 19:02 |
cnd | doug, probably uinput | 19:25 |
cnd | doug, I thought some people were already looking into that | 19:25 |
cnd | but I don't know who | 19:25 |
cnd | doug, you can look at the source of utouch-evemu to get an idea of how uinput works | 19:26 |
cnd | it's a pretty straight forward interface | 19:26 |
doug | cnd++ | 20:09 |
doug | thanks | 20:09 |
cnd | doug, np :) | 20:10 |
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doug | this would seem to be it: http://lii-enac.fr/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=linux-input/tuiototouch.git | 20:12 |
cnd | doug, sounds right | 20:30 |
cnd | bregma, please take a look at bug 986886 to comment on what changes are expected and to figure out if there really is a bug we need to fix there | 20:30 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 986886 in utouch-geis "GEIS returns invalid arguments" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/986886 | 20:30 |
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cnd | bregma, also, the libgrip dailies are FTBFS: https://code.launchpad.net/~utouch-team/+recipe/libgrip-daily | 20:36 |
bregma | yes, it looks like there is a problem in the PPA causing libgrip to not find any dependencies -- weird, right? | 20:52 |
cnd | bregma, it looked to me like a patch wasn't applying | 21:07 |
cnd | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/106513591/buildlog.txt.gz | 21:07 |
cnd | perhaps it's a stale patch in the packaging that needs to be removed? | 21:07 |
bregma | yeah, that log looks suspicious - it usually fails much earlier with a dependncy "... not going to be installed" error | 21:51 |
bregma | keep in mind it also builds cleanly in local pbuidlers and in Ubuntu buildds | 21:52 |
bregma | I guess the daily is trying to apply the packaging patch but the fix is already upstreamed in source | 21:53 |
bregma | I suppose the solution is to release a new version of grip | 21:53 |
bregma | sounds like a task for tomorrow | 21:53 |
cnd | yeah, I think that sounds right | 22:49 |
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