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cndJonii, dandrader is working on a bunch of new features for Unity for Ubuntu 12.1014:17
cndyou can follow the raw development if you want14:18
cndand ask questions on the multi-touch-dev@lists.launchpad.net mailing list14:18
cnddandrader, bregma: howdy14:18
bregmayous is back14:19
cndyeah14:19
bregmahow went the sprint?14:19
cndit was alright14:19
cndhalf of us were in lex half in london14:20
cndthat was kinda a pain14:20
bregmaexcellent14:20
cndbut oh well14:20
bregmathis is the future of collaboration, I suspect14:20
cndI'm quite sore from helping my sister move in and put ikea furniture together though14:20
bregmaallen key strain?14:20
cndthat and many others :)14:21
dandraderassembling ikea furniture is fun14:21
cndanyway, how was things last week?14:21
cndanything notable?14:21
* cnd hasn't gotten through email yet14:21
bregmait wwas quiet14:21
dandradercnd, big merge proposal waiting for your opinion :) -> https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/nux/geis/+merge/10823914:22
cnddandrader, cool!14:23
cndI'll take a look today14:23
bregmalast Monday was a holiday everywhere in the universe except Canada and the UK, nobody seemed able to get motivated after that14:23
cndit also wasn't a holiday in lexington :(14:23
bregmaswap days!14:23
cndheh14:23
bregmaI guess it's that New England work ethic at play14:24
cndso about the big issue: I don't have any news yet, still waiting on answers from legal14:24
* cnd is trying to be discreet about it on this channel14:25
bregmasome good news is I SRUd a libgrip crasher14:25
cndyay14:25
bregmait took me two days of intense debugging to track it down, it was a one-line fix14:25
bregmaI find GTK challenging in a bad way14:26
cndheh14:26
cndit sounds like there are a lot of hidden issues in gtk that only a gtk developer would know about14:27
bregmaonly some subset of gtk developer, no one can know all of the hidden issues14:27
bregmaI'm hoping the legal issue can be resolved in a way that avoids us having to change code14:28
cndme too14:30
cndI've made it clear that some changes will balloon the effort from a little inconvenience to a couple weeks of one FTE depending on how much change is needed14:31
bregmayes14:31
dandradercnd,  what's FTE?14:32
cndfull time engineer14:33
cndit's an abstract way of saying how much work would be required14:33
dandraderyeah, like "man hours"14:34
xerentdandrader: engineers are not men. we are supermen. ;)15:11
dandraderspecially a full-time one :)15:12
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dandraderIf a geis client specifies just one gesture class per subscription it will never get a gesture with more than one gesture class, right?15:53
dandradercnd, ^15:53
cnddandrader, bregma may know the full answer16:07
cndI'm not sure16:07
cndbut I think you're correct16:07
cndbecause grail won't specify a gesture type that wasn't in the subscription16:07
bregmadandrader, you are correct16:09
dandraderok16:10
Joniit16:18
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dougis it possible to hook the touch stuff up to a random TUIO stream to get multitouch working?17:48
cnddoug, does tuio report data as uinput devices through the kernel?17:58
cndor does it provide an X driver?17:59
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dougcnd: neither, currently.  i've just got a UDP stream of TUIO events...18:35
cnddoug, then you would either have to build a utouch-frame backend for TUIO18:46
cndor you would have to create a TUIO xserver input module18:47
cndor send the events through the kernel using uinput18:47
doughm, which is the easier route there?19:02
cnddoug, probably uinput19:25
cnddoug, I thought some people were already looking into that19:25
cndbut I don't know who19:25
cnddoug, you can look at the source of utouch-evemu to get an idea of how uinput works19:26
cndit's a pretty straight forward interface19:26
dougcnd++20:09
dougthanks20:09
cnddoug, np :)20:10
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dougthis would seem to be it: http://lii-enac.fr/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=linux-input/tuiototouch.git20:12
cnddoug, sounds right20:30
cndbregma, please take a look at bug 986886 to comment on what changes are expected and to figure out if there really is a bug we need to fix there20:30
ubot5Launchpad bug 986886 in utouch-geis "GEIS returns invalid arguments" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98688620:30
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cndbregma, also, the libgrip dailies are FTBFS: https://code.launchpad.net/~utouch-team/+recipe/libgrip-daily20:36
bregmayes, it looks like there is a problem in the PPA causing libgrip to not find any dependencies -- weird, right?20:52
cndbregma, it looked to me like a patch wasn't applying21:07
cndhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/106513591/buildlog.txt.gz21:07
cndperhaps it's a stale patch in the packaging that needs to be removed?21:07
bregmayeah, that log looks suspicious -  it usually fails much earlier with a dependncy "... not going to be installed" error21:51
bregmakeep in mind it also builds cleanly in local pbuidlers and in Ubuntu buildds21:52
bregmaI guess the daily is trying to apply the packaging patch but the fix is already upstreamed in source21:53
bregmaI suppose the solution is to release a new version of grip21:53
bregmasounds like a task for tomorrow21:53
cndyeah, I think that sounds right22:49

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