pleia2 | meeting in 8 minutes :) | 01:52 |
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MarkDude | Yay | 01:52 |
* DonkeyHotei is so out of it that he decided to skip sf-lug today | 01:52 | |
akk | It is meet that I just finished my meat. | 01:52 |
MarkDude | Oh, for doing a Geeknic, I figure to assume Cali team wants to be part of the next picnic. And bring specifics on sponsors to THEN decide if folks want to do it :) | 01:53 |
* MarkDude figured no need to put it on agenda too soon | 01:53 | |
* MarkDude will just bring up next event in announcements | 01:55 | |
jyo | yay, I made it. | 01:59 |
pleia2 | :) | 01:59 |
MarkDude | hey there jyo | 02:00 |
pleia2 | #startmeeting | 02:00 |
pleia2 | ok, who all is here for our meeting? | 02:00 |
philipballew | here | 02:00 |
jyo | o/ | 02:00 |
* eps waves | 02:00 | |
akk | meee | 02:00 |
* j_dulaney is president | 02:00 | |
MarkDude | j_dulaney, is a freind from the East Coast | 02:01 |
pleia2 | ok, so we don't really have an agenda this time | 02:01 |
philipballew | nice! | 02:01 |
pleia2 | anyone have any thoughts for events? announcements? anything to bring up? | 02:02 |
eps | I do | 02:02 |
pleia2 | eps: cool, go for it | 02:02 |
eps | Take a look at this product description: http://www.frys.com/product/7126262 | 02:02 |
pleia2 | ah yes, you dropped me an email about this | 02:02 |
eps | and compare it with the manufacturer's version: | 02:03 |
pleia2 | it does inteed seem to run Ubuntu | 02:03 |
eps | http://www.zotacusa.com/zbox-id41-linux.html | 02:03 |
pleia2 | Fry's isn't very good at product descriptions ;) | 02:03 |
eps | Or maybe they don't it to come up in searches for Ubuntu | 02:03 |
philipballew | I was going to go to frys this week. Ill take a look at it if it is there | 02:04 |
MarkDude | Frys has really bad descritpions imho | 02:04 |
pleia2 | eps: I've had to look at the manufacturer's website for everything I've bought at Fry's, I wouldn't say it was an intentional oversight | 02:04 |
pleia2 | I think it's just general Fry's bad descriptions | 02:04 |
eps | Should this product be listed here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPre-installed | 02:05 |
akk | If it's Ubuntu, that'll make it way better than any Linux stuff I've seen at Fry's before. | 02:05 |
akk | Is it Ubuntu? Have you seen one at Fry's? | 02:06 |
pleia2 | I don't know much about that page (it's community-maintained and anyone can update it) | 02:06 |
eps | I saw it online. You know as much as I do. Supposedly it ships with oneric (not precise). | 02:06 |
pleia2 | but if someone went to Fry's asking for Ubuntu, I'm pretty sure the sales staff wouldn't have a clue that device runs Ubuntu | 02:07 |
akk | Or Linux, even. | 02:07 |
philipballew | Im gonna look at it this week. I will be at frys and it claims to be available in store | 02:07 |
eps | It'll be interesting to see if these things are actually "in the wild." | 02:08 |
* pleia2 nods | 02:08 | |
pleia2 | thanks philipballew :) | 02:08 |
philipballew | No problem | 02:08 |
pleia2 | and nice find, eps! | 02:08 |
pleia2 | philipballew: if it does, take pictures and blog about it :D | 02:08 |
MarkDude | +1 | 02:08 |
philipballew | sounds like a good idea. I will do. | 02:09 |
philipballew | Ill ask the employes to see what they were trained to say as well. | 02:09 |
* pleia2 nods | 02:09 | |
akk | They're trained? | 02:09 |
MarkDude | rofl | 02:09 |
pleia2 | now now :) | 02:09 |
jyo | I assume their dress code comes with training, yes. | 02:10 |
MarkDude | sell this, and make sure your shirt is cleaned | 02:10 |
pleia2 | MarkDude: did you want to mention the next Geeknic you're looking to plan? | 02:11 |
MarkDude | You bet | 02:11 |
MarkDude | June 23rd | 02:11 |
MarkDude | heather Farms in Walnut Creek | 02:11 |
pleia2 | doh, same day as Ubuntu User Days | 02:12 |
* MarkDude has not created a listing on Geeknic.iorg yet | 02:12 | |
MarkDude | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F17_Bay_Area | 02:12 |
pleia2 | can we do it Sunday instead? :) | 02:12 |
philipballew | +1 | 02:13 |
* MarkDude already has this one locked in- | 02:13 | |
pleia2 | ah, ok | 02:13 |
MarkDude | We are already planning a South bay event | 02:13 |
MarkDude | as well as sumthin in July- if Linux Picnic is a nogo | 02:13 |
j_dulaney | Will there be a Beefy Miracle present? | 02:13 |
j_dulaney | And bacon? | 02:14 |
MarkDude | Stickers | 02:14 |
MarkDude | as well as Ubuntu CDs | 02:14 |
pleia2 | ok, hopefully I can make it to the July one then :) | 02:14 |
MarkDude | and other Ubuntu swag also | 02:14 |
* MarkDude plans on having a vote on FB for dates | 02:14 | |
MarkDude | and taking votes on ML also | 02:14 |
eps | Any leftovers can go to BerkeleyLUG. ;-) | 02:14 |
MarkDude | they will be added together | 02:15 |
pleia2 | eps: hehe | 02:15 |
MarkDude | :) | 02:15 |
* MarkDude hopes eps can man a bbq | 02:15 | |
MarkDude | operate rather | 02:15 |
eps | I dunno ... my skills might be a bit rusty | 02:15 |
* MarkDude trusts you | 02:15 | |
* MarkDude apologizes for the date thing | 02:16 | |
philipballew | Do we have a bbg or does someone need to bring one? | 02:16 |
pleia2 | they have them at the park | 02:16 |
MarkDude | At UDS many people asked me about a bbq and told me the sooner the better | 02:16 |
MarkDude | They do have them there | 02:16 |
eps | You might want to bring a small one for veggies | 02:16 |
MarkDude | We always bring one for the vegetarians | 02:16 |
philipballew | seems smart | 02:17 |
MarkDude | There will be Tofu Miracles also | 02:17 |
pleia2 | hehe | 02:17 |
MarkDude | As well as smoked peppers and other noms | 02:17 |
akk | tofu would be a beany miracle? | 02:17 |
philipballew | +1 | 02:17 |
MarkDude | damn you akk- I should have asked you before I started calling it the Tofu miracle ;) | 02:17 |
MarkDude | Thats better | 02:18 |
akk | :) | 02:18 |
pleia2 | lol | 02:18 |
* MarkDude was hoping to have a volunteer to email the list about the next event- as far as planning dates | 02:18 | |
MarkDude | It would be early July so as not to interupt OSCON and CLS | 02:19 |
* MarkDude will bug folks on that later. | 02:19 | |
MarkDude | Pretty soon we should make plans to go to CLS in Portland | 02:19 |
MarkDude | Carpools FULL of people should go to that | 02:19 |
* MarkDude shuts up now | 02:20 | |
MarkDude | :) | 02:20 |
pleia2 | but not too close to 4th of july :) | 02:20 |
MarkDude | True | 02:20 |
MarkDude | makes the poll easier | 02:20 |
philipballew | Ill be busy with all the fireworks I bought out of state | 02:21 |
j_dulaney | Explosions in the sky? | 02:21 |
pleia2 | ah wow, oscon is earlier than I thought | 02:21 |
* philipballew should probably not say that | 02:21 | |
MarkDude | theoretically of course philipballew | 02:21 |
MarkDude | ;) | 02:21 |
pleia2 | maybe do it in really *late* july | 02:21 |
akk | For anyone perusing the channel logs, philipballew was just kidding about that. :) | 02:21 |
MarkDude | akk, +1 | 02:21 |
pleia2 | hahah | 02:21 |
philipballew | lol | 02:22 |
pleia2 | ok, anyone have anything else before philipballew further incriminates himself? :) | 02:22 |
eps | Incriminates or incinerates? | 02:23 |
akk | heh | 02:23 |
pleia2 | touche | 02:23 |
MarkDude | eps+1 | 02:23 |
* j_dulaney wants to light it all off | 02:23 | |
pleia2 | the next SF Ubuntu Hour is next week, June 13th | 02:24 |
* pleia2 will add a loco portal event in a bit | 02:24 | |
DonkeyHotei | i'll likely be in Sac that day | 02:24 |
philipballew | Ill be there pleia2 | 02:24 |
pleia2 | philipballew: great :) | 02:25 |
eps | With or without Bay Area Debian? (Last SF one was Apr. 11) | 02:25 |
pleia2 | eps: I'm thinking with, but I'll ask around and then confirm | 02:25 |
MarkDude | Fb link for party https://www.facebook.com/events/300921919994599/ | 02:25 |
philipballew | Give me Debian, or give me death! | 02:26 |
pleia2 | philipballew: haha, ok, one vote "for" debian dinner too :) | 02:26 |
pleia2 | ok, wrapping this up then, anyone else have anything? | 02:27 |
MarkDude | Great short meeting - yay | 02:28 |
philipballew | Ill do post meeting stuff this meeting if thats cool | 02:29 |
j_dulaney | For non-short meetings, go to Fedora Blocker Bug Meetings | 02:29 |
pleia2 | philipballew: yes, thank you! | 02:29 |
* j_dulaney has sat through seven hour meetings | 02:29 | |
pleia2 | thanks for coming everyone :) | 02:29 |
pleia2 | #endmeeting | 02:29 |
pleia2 | j_dulaney: haha, ouch | 02:29 |
j_dulaney | Pain | 02:30 |
akk | 7 hours! | 02:30 |
MarkDude | j_dulaney, pleia will file a bug on me- and not allow it to be marked wontfix | 02:30 |
j_dulaney | LOL | 02:30 |
j_dulaney | Of course, that bug would be unfixable | 02:30 |
MarkDude | She has more skillz than I do | 02:30 |
MarkDude | lots more | 02:30 |
pleia2 | MarkDude: is unfixable, but we love him anyway :) | 02:31 |
MarkDude | +1 | 02:31 |
akk | We're probably most of us unfixable. | 02:31 |
pleia2 | truth | 02:31 |
MarkDude | Perfection is not gotten, but is a good target | 02:33 |
eps | If you see it, shoot at it 'til it's dead? | 02:33 |
MarkDude | sumthin like that | 02:34 |
eps | As they say in Redmond, "Failure is not an option -- it comes bundled with every Microsoft product." | 02:34 |
akk | ha | 02:35 |
bkerensa | who even uses Paypal these days | 15:27 |
bkerensa | >.< | 15:27 |
=== Corey is now known as 45PAANW6S | ||
MarkDude | bkerensa, actually that is how Daddy Shadowman pays folks back for money they have spent. They will send checks and stuff, but , prefer Paypal. A bit old-timey I know :D | 16:09 |
bkerensa | MarkDude: I just dont like paypal but Linux New Media uses it to pay authors =/ | 16:10 |
MarkDude | lol | 16:10 |
bkerensa | was kind of surprised they asked for paypal versus cutting a check or doing it ach | 16:10 |
MarkDude | Understood | 16:10 |
bkerensa | I guess it was somewhere on the contract I signed that said all my written words belong to them exclusively and wordlwide | 16:11 |
=== 45PAANW6S is now known as Corey | ||
scientes | <scientes> schestowitz, this NEEDs to be your front page story (if it isn't already) https://isc.sans.edu/diary.html?storyid=13366&rss --- | 16:39 |
scientes | whoops | 16:39 |
scientes | https://isc.sans.edu/diary.html?storyid=13366&rss | 16:39 |
scientes | boom-ba-da-ching! | 16:39 |
DonkeyHotei | bkerensa: any battery news? | 17:25 |
bkerensa | DonkeyHotei: the guy never texted me back a week ago | 17:25 |
bkerensa | I dont go much time to keep pursuing that | 17:25 |
DonkeyHotei | grrr | 17:26 |
raevol | my update manager is so slow.... on all mirrors... :( | 17:30 |
bkerensa | raevol: AWS Mirrors for the win | 17:32 |
bkerensa | philipballew: side note... looks like were not getting comp'ed accts for life or for any long period of time | 17:34 |
bkerensa | philipballew: Canonical stepped in and asked for all devs to get them so that offer from HP at UDS as got reduced to a couple months | 17:35 |
DonkeyHotei | bkerensa: he says _you_ didn't text _him_ back | 17:38 |
kdub | i kinda wish that irssi would ping the unity notify-osd | 17:38 |
kdub | ping philipballew | 17:39 |
bkerensa | DonkeyHotei: Me: Can you bring it to NE tomorrow and ill buy it? Or perhaps PayPal and ship it to California? 1:58 PM (10 Days Ago) | 17:39 |
bkerensa | I also told him I dont have time to drive out and chase him around for a battery... I wouldnt even do this for someone local | 17:39 |
DonkeyHotei | Him: He could not work out a time to meet me at a time i was driving thru so i said shipping was an option, tho id rather not. | 17:40 |
bkerensa | Yeah he is driving through at night time or always wants me to go out to beaverton | 17:41 |
philipballew | whats up kdub and bkerensa | 17:41 |
DonkeyHotei | doesn't linus torvalds live in beaverton? | 17:42 |
* bkerensa does not travel to other people unless their is a cash motivation exceeding $500 | 17:42 | |
bkerensa | DonkeyHotei: he lives in Lake Oswego | 17:42 |
bkerensa | DonkeyHotei: http://i.imgur.com/rGkm9.png <--- this is what that guy wants | 17:44 |
DonkeyHotei | Her, evidently: I am in beaverton, i drive across portland to get my kids from school eveery day. Portland is huge, your friend has not been available any of the days or times i have been thru | 17:45 |
bkerensa | Everytime he comes is like 5/6pm | 17:48 |
DonkeyHotei | she | 17:48 |
bkerensa | DonkeyHotei: why not ask her to ship it to you? | 17:49 |
DonkeyHotei | the 5/6pm is predictable, and if you're never around at that time, then yeah, that might be better | 17:50 |
DonkeyHotei | but i gotta know | 17:50 |
akk | Whee, election tomorrow. I like how the Voter Information Pamphlet doesn't even mention the statewide propositions. | 17:51 |
pleia2 | woohoo, stickers | 17:53 |
pleia2 | (I only vote so I can get a sticker) | 17:53 |
akk | :) | 17:53 |
bkerensa | DonkeyHotei: Starting at 5pm/6pm to 10pm daily and all day on weekends is spent with my fiancee so if its during those times or when I'm working on a project M-F then its very unlikely I will be able to meet with them in NE and under almost no circumstances am I going out to meet someone in the suburbs it a hour drive | 17:54 |
DonkeyHotei | thanx for letting me know | 17:55 |
philipballew | ups just brought me my art of community second edition. Noticeably bigger then the first. | 19:59 |
bkerensa | philipballew: you bought a copy? | 20:11 |
philipballew | bkerensa, no, it is a review I was asked to review it | 20:11 |
MarkDude | Play the Jono drinking game | 20:12 |
MarkDude | For each use of the word Community | 20:13 |
bkerensa | heh | 20:13 |
MarkDude | you wont make the 1st chapter | 20:13 |
MarkDude | Same with in real life- use of words dude, rocks , and rockin' | 20:13 |
bkerensa | philipballew: Jono gives out free copies to everyone who holds a session at CLS too :) | 20:13 |
bkerensa | I assume O'Reilly sent you the copy then :P | 20:14 |
* MarkDude shares overuse of said words too | 20:14 | |
philipballew | bkerensa, yes they did. | 20:14 |
bkerensa | marsee and jon are nice folk ;) | 20:14 |
MarkDude | HElla nice | 20:14 |
philipballew | I still need to figure out oscon one of these days | 20:14 |
bkerensa | join #ubuntu-ops | 20:15 |
bkerensa | eck | 20:15 |
bkerensa | >.< a total / fail | 20:15 |
philipballew | #EpicFail | 20:16 |
DonkeyHotei | [Mon 2012-06-04 01:41:01 PM PDT] -ChanServ- Information on #epicfail: | 20:41 |
DonkeyHotei | [Mon 2012-06-04 01:41:01 PM PDT] -ChanServ- Registered : Jul 31 22:49:22 2008 (3 years, 44 weeks, 0 days, 21:51:38 ago) | 20:41 |
DonkeyHotei | [Mon 2012-06-04 01:41:01 PM PDT] -ChanServ- Last used : (about 200 weeks ago) | 20:41 |
DonkeyHotei | philipballew: ^ | 20:41 |
MarkDude | scientes, you have a wiki page for requesting Orielly books? | 20:43 |
philipballew | DonkeyHotei, I was just saying epic fail in reference to the website | 20:55 |
scientes | MarkDude, no | 20:56 |
MarkDude | ok fair enough | 20:58 |
scientes | MarkDude, what do you mean? | 20:58 |
* MarkDude is willing to help with request when there are a few book requests posted on wiki | 20:58 | |
scientes | ahh, url pls | 20:59 |
MarkDude | Its easiest for Oreilly to grant books if there is a public page with list of books | 20:59 |
MarkDude | it makes it easier on their side :) | 20:59 |
MarkDude | Well, it would be better for someone else to create the page (long story on why I am not doing so ) :) | 21:00 |
MarkDude | Once we have the page- we can send the info to leads for Cali- and then go from there. They said they were interested, but had limited time | 21:01 |
bkerensa | If anyone wants a pdf copy of my feature article from Ubuntu User it just hit the site and will be in print at outlets in July ;) http://www.ubuntu-user.com/Magazine/Archive/2012/13/Ubuntu-Developer-Summit-Quantal-Quetzal | 21:01 |
MarkDude | If we make it easier for the leads and the book peoples | 21:01 |
MarkDude | bkerensa, you are not following my master plan | 21:02 |
MarkDude | When you stepped up as Lead- I did not expect you to overtake me in geek street cred so quickly :D | 21:02 |
bkerensa | MarkDude: then you dont want to know where my next article is landing ;) | 21:03 |
MarkDude | I figured it would happen- MarkDude was hoping it would be more like 2013 tho- lol | 21:03 |
MarkDude | Opensource.com? | 21:03 |
bkerensa | peh | 21:03 |
bkerensa | MarkDude: pleia2 is in the article ^ | 21:03 |
* MarkDude welcomes you kickin ass everywhere sir, my silly jokes notwithstanding | 21:03 | |
* MarkDude thinks pleia2 should win the Open Source award | 21:04 | |
MarkDude | was gonna nominate her if no one else did | 21:04 |
DonkeyHotei | didn't rms win one time? | 21:05 |
* MarkDude thinks pleia2 is cooler than RMS on many levels | 21:06 | |
DonkeyHotei | no wait, rms won the linus torvalds award, whatever that is | 21:06 |
MarkDude | Not even counting showering and lack of toejam diet | 21:06 |
* MarkDude is curious as to her stance on buying a parrot for her :D | 21:06 | |
DonkeyHotei | does rms have a parrot? | 21:07 |
MarkDude | ^^^ refernce to RMS does not want you to buy him a parrot | 21:07 |
bkerensa | rms eats his feet | 21:07 |
MarkDude | Google it- its awesome | 21:07 |
bkerensa | and thats uncool | 21:07 |
MarkDude | yes bkerensa | 21:07 |
MarkDude | hence the toejam reference | 21:07 |
MarkDude | and how pleia2 does not do so | 21:08 |
DonkeyHotei | haven't you heard? uncool is in now | 21:08 |
* MarkDude leaves toes to DonkeyHotei | 21:08 | |
MarkDude | At Scale a while ago- they asked the people in the Weakest Geek to do an impersonation of RMS | 21:08 |
DonkeyHotei | i don't need your toes; i have 10 of my own | 21:09 |
MarkDude | One person said hopw do you impersonate not showering | 21:09 |
MarkDude | Randi the free BSD girl asked for a female volunteer- to be rude to | 21:09 |
MarkDude | toes in the generic sense DonkeyHotei | 21:09 |
DonkeyHotei | she's on weakest geek every damn year | 21:09 |
DonkeyHotei | what generic sense? | 21:10 |
scientes | MarkDude, well what wiki should i create the page on? | 21:11 |
MarkDude | She rocks | 21:11 |
* MarkDude ignores you 2nd comment due to Poes Law violationbs | 21:12 | |
MarkDude | scientes, it should most likely be under Ubuntu cali namespace | 21:12 |
MarkDude | Or | 21:12 |
MarkDude | Under your namespace | 21:12 |
scientes | you mean lauchpad wikis or something? i''ve never used those---come on give me a link | 21:12 |
scientes | of any sort | 21:13 |
MarkDude | with the idea it would be moved to Cali space after approved | 21:13 |
MarkDude | Oh sure | 21:13 |
MarkDude | my bad | 21:13 |
scientes | i need some idea of what i am doing | 21:13 |
MarkDude | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Book_requests | 21:15 |
* MarkDude started the page | 21:15 | |
MarkDude | If it needs to be moved for any reason it can | 21:16 |
MarkDude | The main idea is that you put some books you want on there | 21:16 |
MarkDude | It being a wiki allows others to add their requests too | 21:16 |
MarkDude | and once people weigh in- it allows the team leads to easily review | 21:17 |
scientes | hmm i don't know which one to aask for | 21:17 |
MarkDude | Should keep everyone happy | 21:17 |
MarkDude | Pick at least 3 | 21:17 |
MarkDude | chances are you will get at least one | 21:17 |
MarkDude | The older it is- the easier it is to get | 21:17 |
MarkDude | As in sometimes new books are harder to get. Usually tho- they are easy to get too | 21:18 |
scientes | i was thinking about C++ and then i realized that vala is almost cooler in that realm, but very new language | 21:18 |
MarkDude | pick a few | 21:21 |
MarkDude | You may be able to come up with stuff others will like too | 21:21 |
* MarkDude bets on it :) | 21:21 | |
scientes | I don't allow google cookies, can you tell me if this book has anything on avoiding unaligned memory accesses? http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9781593271749.do | 21:25 |
MarkDude | scientes, think of me as a slightly less charming version of Jono | 21:28 |
scientes | lol | 21:28 |
MarkDude | Meaning | 21:28 |
* MarkDude is better at Community questions than say the tech stuff ;) | 21:28 | |
pleia2 | bkerensa: nice, thanks! | 21:48 |
pleia2 | MarkDude: and thanks for your kind words :) but I do regret getting so detatched from development (only have one package in debian anymore, and it's co-maintained) | 21:48 |
MarkDude | Understood | 21:49 |
MarkDude | You have most likely forgotten more than I currently know :D | 21:50 |
pleia2 | to be fair, I have been at this longer and do systems administration as my day job :) | 21:55 |
MarkDude | Smarter too - shhhh | 21:56 |
MarkDude | For the record, MarkDude think on genral that women are smarter than men | 21:56 |
DonkeyHotei | that's because they are | 21:56 |
DonkeyHotei | they're smart enough not to have to have tech jobs | 21:57 |
DonkeyHotei | we're stuck with those, though | 21:57 |
* DonkeyHotei waits for obligatory poe's law accusations | 21:58 | |
* MarkDude has not desire to touch those comments with philipballew 's 10 foot pole | 22:15 | |
DonkeyHotei | you brought it up | 22:16 |
MarkDude | Women being smarter is pretty much fact, imho | 22:17 |
DonkeyHotei | agreed | 22:18 |
MarkDude | inferences tho, get a bit dicey, altho yours was very humorous :D | 22:18 |
MarkDude | For the record, it did not violate Poes Law, pretty much everyone hopefully knew you were in jest | 22:18 |
DonkeyHotei | except i wasn't | 22:19 |
* MarkDude runs away | 22:19 | |
MarkDude | (flailing and screaming) | 22:19 |
pleia2 | it's an argument that has been made before, but pretty much holds no weight when you actually ask women why they leave compsci | 22:19 |
MarkDude | Smithers; release the hounds.... | 22:20 |
pleia2 | "Unlocking the Clubhouse" is a good book that interviews a lot of women who stay and leave their compsci degrees, and pinpointing where these gaps are: http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&tid=8515 | 22:22 |
akk | Unlocking++ | 22:23 |
akk | great book | 22:23 |
DonkeyHotei | http://www.pixoulphotography.com/2012/05/31/official-uds-q-group-photo-and-personal-photo-set/ | 22:44 |
DonkeyHotei | i don't remember where i was standing, so i can't find myself | 22:45 |
DonkeyHotei | it would help if i could remember what i wore | 22:45 |
DonkeyHotei | but uds is mostly just a blur | 22:45 |
* MarkDude is being 100% sincere in saying this: | 22:49 | |
MarkDude | He is glad there were no pics of MarkDude's shirt in plain view | 22:49 |
MarkDude | jcastro came to get people in line- and sorta winked at me | 22:50 |
MarkDude | Like haha, you got the other pics- all that will be seen is you and the penguin hat | 22:50 |
* MarkDude took it as good humor like with the saga of *Jono's Jacket* | 22:51 |
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