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inetprofp05:30
inetproGood morning 05:30
Squirmmorning05:32
mazalMorning :-)05:36
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charlvnguten morgen alle lookenspeepers08:20
mazalWatse goed ?08:29
bakumangoeie more08:30
charlvnmazal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blinkenlights08:34
charlvnhi bakuman 08:34
bakumanhi!08:34
inetprocharlvn: lookenspeepers?10:10
inetproBlinkenlights? hmm... 10:12
mazalDoes anyone know what could cause Samba to be VERY slow. Copies at only 300 to 800kb/s on 100mb/s lan ?10:16
mazalI can't find the cause and tried the buffer settings thing , but nothing helps10:16
mazalI tested with iperf and the test gets 9.3mb/s speed. Also my apache speed is fine. So it seems to be related to samba only10:17
mazalWorking on some more info , just trying to find my post on the forum10:27
mazalhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1984691&page=210:28
mazalThe relevant stuff is from post nr 2010:28
mazalPost nr 18 actually10:30
superflymazal: firstly, that's 100 megaBITS per second, not BYTES10:35
superflysecondly, are you copying to or from a Windows box?10:35
mazalSuperfly I know10:43
mazalI should get at least 9mb/s , not 300kb/s10:43
mazalFrom Windows XP to Ubuntu server 11.1010:44
mazalApache fine , ssh fine , iperf test get's 9mb/s , only Samba copies at 300 to 800kb/s10:44
superflymazal: OK, well, Windows' networking stack is a mess to behold, so copying speeds are always slow. secondly, things will *always* vary over a network10:45
mazalNot that slow Superfly10:45
mazalI get the normal 9mb/s to my other Ubuntu server on the same network from the same client10:45
* superfly doesn't use samba, so he can't help much further than point out networking [ab]normalities10:46
mazalOne is 10.10 , other one is 11.1010:47
mazalSomething is very badly wrong10:47
superflymazal: when did this start?10:48
mazalRight from the word go10:48
mazalSince installation10:49
mazalAt first I saw that my ssh login takes very long10:49
tumbleweedbroken DNS?10:49
superflymazal: dude, I don't get your attitude on the forums. Windows always needs extra external tools to do ANY troubleshooting, and you're moaning that you have to apt-get a package or two?10:49
mazalThen when I started to put data to the shares I immediately saw big problems10:49
mazalYou are looking at 15 to copy 100mb10:49
mazal15min even10:49
superflythough asking why a server is not connected to the internet, and asking about FTP are just stupid.10:50
mazalSuperfly that is frustration that vented there because I always have to struggle because of a proxy10:50
mazalAnyway , that is not the issue10:51
superflymazal: btw, generally if I have a problem, I ask on CLUG-chat/tech or GLUG-chat/tech10:51
mazaliperf have been installed and shows that my network is fine10:51
superflyUbuntu Forums is full of people who think they know more than they do10:51
mazalAnd I also knew that struggling to get that app installed will help nothing as I knew my network is ok10:52
mazalAnyway , tests shows that it seems to be apache only10:52
mazaltumbleweed, why you say dns ?10:53
tumbleweedmazal: if it's taking forever to log in by ssh, I'll bet that you have broken reverse DNS10:53
mazalssh is fixed10:53
mazalBut how can I check that tumbleweed  ?10:53
tumbleweedby looking up hostnames from IPs10:56
mazalI have double checked everything in interfaces as well as resolv.conf10:56
tumbleweedanyway, no idea why your samba is slow10:56
mazalAnd all the ip's is correct in resolv.conf and interfaces10:56
mazalok , thank you10:57
mazalI just tested to see if I can ping out using hostnames and that works fine. So I can see hostnames , IE my dns is fine ?11:04
tumbleweedyup11:14
mazaloi , I have no idea what else to test. Went through all advice11:14
tumbleweedis samba only slow when you access it from windows? or linux too?11:16
tumbleweedanything interesting in the log files?11:16
mazalI don't have a Linux client here at work11:16
mazalOnly two Ubuntu servers11:16
mazalMy only ubuntu laptop is on a different server and can't see the server :-(11:17
mazalI am forced to use Windows11:17
mazalon a different network even11:17
mazaltumbleweed: I don't know which log files to check for this particular issue11:18
tumbleweedsamba's log files, and also have a lok over daemon.log11:19
* mazal goes hunting for samba log files11:20
charlvninetpro: it's a very old thing, it's surprising to see how many people here don't know about it11:25
charlvnmazal: is it only samba or is scp also slow?11:27
mazalSamba log files shows nothing and I don't have a daemon.log11:30
mazalcharlvn: yup11:30
mazalonly samba11:30
charlvnah ok11:30
NeVeR_Hi Guys11:32
NeVeR_I did the Pre-training assessment: Ubuntu Professional, on the canonical site.. says I got level 5.. what does that even mean? :|11:33
superflyNeVeR_: I wouldn't know, never heard of it before.11:34
charlvnme neither11:34
NeVeR_oic :| lol11:34
charlvnthis is an ubuntu support channel, not really a canonical channel11:34
NeVeR_I want to get some sort of certification, looking at changing jobs.. I was just looking at some course at Obsysdian and it said I should do the pre-assesment... did it but it tells me nothing :P11:35
inetprocharlvn: s/ubuntu support channel/ubuntu community channel/11:35
charlvninetpro: you're right, community channel11:35
charlvnNeVeR_: it's a good question, i don't really know what is considered a "good" option for certification11:36
charlvni, for one, have no formal linux certification, and that's the way i prefer to keep it11:36
* inetpro agrees with charlvn11:37
inetproautodidacticism ftw!11:37
charlvni use such a stack of software, for me to even attempt to formally qualify myself in any of those is impractical11:38
charlvni just did a B.Sc. in software engineering for some background11:38
charlvnautodidacticism++11:39
charlvnok meeting bbl11:39
inetprocharlvn: enjoy!11:39
* inetpro checks the topic11:41
inetproI wonder how that Ubuntu Hour went on Saturday11:41
inetprohope someone can help us update the topic 11:42
superflyNeVeR_: I know that Obsidian offers a number of certifications. It's probably a good idea to get a certification from them, and you might get a job through their connections11:45
NeVeR_thanks for the info guys :)12:11
mazalBye everyone , have a good afternoon12:48
Kiloshiya maiatoday superfly  and others13:35
Kiloshi NeVeR_ 13:35
Kiloslol13:35
charlvnhi Kilos 13:37
maiatodayhi Kilos13:37
Kiloshey charlvn all good13:37
charlvnyup yup13:37
charlvnjust rainy13:37
charlvnand you?13:37
Kilosim good ty where is it raining?13:38
charlvnwhere i live in unknown location :)13:38
Kilosha ha ha no man cant be the tvl  so maybe the cape or natal 13:38
charlvnnot .za13:39
charlvn:)13:39
Kilosah13:39
Kilosoh you also there13:39
Kiloswith psydroid  and the smiley guy13:39
charlvn"there"?13:39
charlvnah from my hostname charlvn.nl13:39
charlvngood guess, that might or might not be correct13:40
charlvnif you traceroute the url you will end up in germany13:40
charlvnthe hostname i mean13:40
charlvnbut that might or might not be where i live13:40
Kilosnot a guess you put in the country when you sign up with irc13:40
Kilosor did you talk a lie13:41
charlvnyou don't "sign up" with irc, you just connect to a server13:41
charlvnoh wait you are using a client like xchat that gives you the country?13:41
Kiloslol ya13:41
charlvnit just determines that by the cctld in the hostname13:41
charlvnit has a list of cctlds and the corresponding names of the country13:41
Kiloscctld?13:41
charlvncountry-code top level domain13:42
charlvn.nl or .za or similar13:42
NeVeR_Hi Kilos13:42
NeVeR_:P13:42
Kiloswhew thats a mouthfull13:42
charlvnyeah13:42
charlvnyou also get a gtld - a general top level domain13:42
KilosNeVeR_, are you new here?13:42
charlvngeneric, sorry, not general13:42
NeVeR_Yea I'm new :)13:43
KilosNeVeR_, welcome to ubuntu-za13:43
zerefhuurrrrrmmm, internet back :D13:43
zerefpew pew, weo weo13:43
Kiloshi zeref 13:43
zerefhi Kilos 13:43
charlvnhi zeref, your internet was down?13:43
zerefyeah since last wednesday13:44
charlvnthat sucks13:44
Kiloswow that sucks zeref 13:44
charlvnwow since wednesday, that's a long time13:44
Kiloszeref, arent you at the varsity?13:44
zerefmy life was meh, for bout a week13:45
NeVeR_thx :> is there a local entry point for this irc server??13:45
zerefKilos: webs at res...13:45
KilosNeVeR_, yes freenode13:45
zerefwas lazy to go to campus, esp in the evening13:45
Kilosyeah zeref too cold13:46
KilosNeVeR_, are you using xchat or quassel13:46
NeVeR_neither at the moment lol... I'13:46
NeVeR_I'm using a webclient13:46
NeVeR_I'm on my work laptop.. its windows (puke)13:47
NeVeR_its got windows13:47
Kilosok you can install xchat and set it up to come here easily13:47
Kilosouch13:47
Kilosyou get xchat for winsucks as well13:47
NeVeR_lol I got Mirc on winsucks13:48
NeVeR_mIRC13:48
NeVeR_is it za.freenode.net ?13:48
charlvnNeVeR_: afaik there are no south african servers for freenode13:48
NeVeR_:( i see13:48
Kilosnope13:48
Kilosjust freenode13:48
charlvnthere are a bunch in the usa, a bunch in europe, and one in australia13:48
Kilosmethinks xchat is easier than mirc13:49
NeVeR_I can't connect from my work, delay is too bad.. just times out :\ can only connect through a web client13:49
Kilosaw13:49
charlvnit's ridiculous that the windows build of xchat is shareware13:49
charlvnhttp://xchat.org/windows/13:50
KilosNeVeR_, where are you?13:50
NeVeR_Where am I? O_o Bryanston13:50
charlvnoh i see there are some free non-official builds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Chat13:51
charlvnNeVeR_: freenode has an incredibly high ping timeout threshold so if that happens your internet is pretty screwed13:51
charlvnor run linux inside a virtual machine and run xchat/irssi or similar inside of that, another alternative13:52
KilosNeVeR_, win 7 or xp?13:52
NeVeR_Win 713:52
NeVeR_I'll give xchat a try tonight... got lots of work to do for now :/13:52
KilosMaaz, google free xchat for win713:52
MaazKilos: "XChat: Multiplatform Chat Program" http://xchat.org/ :: "XChat for Windows" http://xchat.org/windows/ :: "X-Chat 2 for Windows" http://www.silverex.org/ :: "XChat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XChat :: "xchat Windows 7 - Free Download Windows 7 xchat" http://www.windows7download.com/free-win7-xchat/ :: "Download X-Chat for Windows 7 free - Windows 7 Download" http://www.windows7download.com/win7-x-13:52
charlvnsilverex is the one i just found13:53
charlvnthere are some more on the wikipedia page13:53
NeVeR_yoooooh13:53
NeVeR_I g2g :) Speakya guys later.. Thanks for the warm welcome!13:54
Kilosyw NeVeR_ 13:54
Kilosdag sê HawkiesZA 14:11
Kiloshey sakhi you still going strong?14:14
Kilosinetpro, howzit boet14:15
HawkiesZA'lo Kilos. I'm actually on my way now14:17
Kilosgo well HawkiesZA 14:17
HawkiesZAWill log in again when I'm home14:17
HawkiesZACheers14:18
Kiloscool14:18
Kilosdoes he ever chat? first time ive seen him say something14:18
KilosMaaz, tell magespawn. wassup stranger14:19
MaazKilos: I don't know who magespawn. is. Say 'magespawn. on freenode' and I'll take your word that magespawn. exists14:19
Kilossigh14:19
KilosMaaz, tell magespawn on freenode . wassup stranger14:19
MaazKilos: Got it, I'll tell magespawn on freenode14:19
Kilosmaiatoday, what was the study results girl14:21
Kilos?14:21
Kilosbbl15:08
charlvngood evening folks17:08
mazalHello charlvn17:12
Kiloshi superfly and other geeks17:41
Kilosyo smile4linux 17:41
superflyevening Kilos17:41
Kilosyo magespawn you still alive?17:45
magespawnEvening all17:45
magespawnHi Kilos, onky just.17:45
magespawnOnly17:45
Kiloswhats wrong lad?17:45
magespawnJust busy.17:45
Kilosbusy is good man17:45
magespawnYes but does not allow me much time to come here or get gc back online17:46
Kiloshaha i missed gc other day because maaz fogot where to find the PTA weather report17:47
inetprogood evening fine folk!17:51
Kilosyo gussie koud ne17:52
inetproKilos: yep, word beslis al hoe kouer17:52
inetproverwarmer is aan17:52
Kilossjoe as dit nie vanaand ryp nie dan weet ek nie17:52
Kilosmaar die vye bome bot17:53
Kilosso hopelik n kort koue tyd17:53
inetprohmm...17:54
inetprohoop daai vyebome is reg17:54
inetprodalk is hulle deurmekaar17:54
Kiloslol ja kan wees17:54
inetprowat sê die weerburo?17:55
inetprowat is die minimum vir more?17:55
Kilosso tussen 4 en 6°c hier17:55
Kerbero617:55
Kilosons is bietjie kouer as pta 17:56
Kilosmeer soos jhb17:56
Kilosdankie Kerbero 17:57
Kilosgaan dit goed?17:58
smile4linuxhallo Kilos :)18:03
KilosMaaz, coffee on18:09
* Maaz washes some mugs18:09
magespawnYou guys really should come down here in winter.18:11
KilosMaaz, hot18:12
Kiloshmm18:12
MaazCome on Kilos How many peeps do you know that make coffee with cold water twit!18:12
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!18:13
Kilossleep tight all. see ya morrow18:27
smile4linuxbye :)18:31
magespawnNight all.20:12

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