[05:30] <inetpro> fp
[05:30] <inetpro> Good morning 
[05:32] <Squirm> morning
[05:36] <mazal> Morning :-)
[08:20] <charlvn> guten morgen alle lookenspeepers
[08:29] <mazal> Watse goed ?
[08:30] <bakuman> goeie more
[08:34] <charlvn> mazal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blinkenlights
[08:34] <charlvn> hi bakuman 
[08:34] <bakuman> hi!
[10:10] <inetpro> charlvn: lookenspeepers?
[10:12] <inetpro> Blinkenlights? hmm... 
[10:16] <mazal> Does anyone know what could cause Samba to be VERY slow. Copies at only 300 to 800kb/s on 100mb/s lan ?
[10:16] <mazal> I can't find the cause and tried the buffer settings thing , but nothing helps
[10:17] <mazal> I tested with iperf and the test gets 9.3mb/s speed. Also my apache speed is fine. So it seems to be related to samba only
[10:27] <mazal> Working on some more info , just trying to find my post on the forum
[10:28] <mazal> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1984691&page=2
[10:28] <mazal> The relevant stuff is from post nr 20
[10:30] <mazal> Post nr 18 actually
[10:35] <superfly> mazal: firstly, that's 100 megaBITS per second, not BYTES
[10:35] <superfly> secondly, are you copying to or from a Windows box?
[10:43] <mazal> Superfly I know
[10:43] <mazal> I should get at least 9mb/s , not 300kb/s
[10:44] <mazal> From Windows XP to Ubuntu server 11.10
[10:44] <mazal> Apache fine , ssh fine , iperf test get's 9mb/s , only Samba copies at 300 to 800kb/s
[10:45] <superfly> mazal: OK, well, Windows' networking stack is a mess to behold, so copying speeds are always slow. secondly, things will *always* vary over a network
[10:45] <mazal> Not that slow Superfly
[10:45] <mazal> I get the normal 9mb/s to my other Ubuntu server on the same network from the same client
[10:46]  * superfly doesn't use samba, so he can't help much further than point out networking [ab]normalities
[10:47] <mazal> One is 10.10 , other one is 11.10
[10:47] <mazal> Something is very badly wrong
[10:48] <superfly> mazal: when did this start?
[10:48] <mazal> Right from the word go
[10:49] <mazal> Since installation
[10:49] <mazal> At first I saw that my ssh login takes very long
[10:49] <tumbleweed> broken DNS?
[10:49] <superfly> mazal: dude, I don't get your attitude on the forums. Windows always needs extra external tools to do ANY troubleshooting, and you're moaning that you have to apt-get a package or two?
[10:49] <mazal> Then when I started to put data to the shares I immediately saw big problems
[10:49] <mazal> You are looking at 15 to copy 100mb
[10:49] <mazal> 15min even
[10:50] <superfly> though asking why a server is not connected to the internet, and asking about FTP are just stupid.
[10:50] <mazal> Superfly that is frustration that vented there because I always have to struggle because of a proxy
[10:51] <mazal> Anyway , that is not the issue
[10:51] <superfly> mazal: btw, generally if I have a problem, I ask on CLUG-chat/tech or GLUG-chat/tech
[10:51] <mazal> iperf have been installed and shows that my network is fine
[10:51] <superfly> Ubuntu Forums is full of people who think they know more than they do
[10:52] <mazal> And I also knew that struggling to get that app installed will help nothing as I knew my network is ok
[10:52] <mazal> Anyway , tests shows that it seems to be apache only
[10:53] <mazal> tumbleweed, why you say dns ?
[10:53] <tumbleweed> mazal: if it's taking forever to log in by ssh, I'll bet that you have broken reverse DNS
[10:53] <mazal> ssh is fixed
[10:53] <mazal> But how can I check that tumbleweed  ?
[10:56] <tumbleweed> by looking up hostnames from IPs
[10:56] <mazal> I have double checked everything in interfaces as well as resolv.conf
[10:56] <tumbleweed> anyway, no idea why your samba is slow
[10:56] <mazal> And all the ip's is correct in resolv.conf and interfaces
[10:57] <mazal> ok , thank you
[11:04] <mazal> I just tested to see if I can ping out using hostnames and that works fine. So I can see hostnames , IE my dns is fine ?
[11:14] <tumbleweed> yup
[11:14] <mazal> oi , I have no idea what else to test. Went through all advice
[11:16] <tumbleweed> is samba only slow when you access it from windows? or linux too?
[11:16] <tumbleweed> anything interesting in the log files?
[11:16] <mazal> I don't have a Linux client here at work
[11:16] <mazal> Only two Ubuntu servers
[11:17] <mazal> My only ubuntu laptop is on a different server and can't see the server :-(
[11:17] <mazal> I am forced to use Windows
[11:17] <mazal> on a different network even
[11:18] <mazal> tumbleweed: I don't know which log files to check for this particular issue
[11:19] <tumbleweed> samba's log files, and also have a lok over daemon.log
[11:20]  * mazal goes hunting for samba log files
[11:25] <charlvn> inetpro: it's a very old thing, it's surprising to see how many people here don't know about it
[11:27] <charlvn> mazal: is it only samba or is scp also slow?
[11:30] <mazal> Samba log files shows nothing and I don't have a daemon.log
[11:30] <mazal> charlvn: yup
[11:30] <mazal> only samba
[11:30] <charlvn> ah ok
[11:32] <NeVeR_> Hi Guys
[11:33] <NeVeR_> I did the Pre-training assessment: Ubuntu Professional, on the canonical site.. says I got level 5.. what does that even mean? :|
[11:34] <superfly> NeVeR_: I wouldn't know, never heard of it before.
[11:34] <charlvn> me neither
[11:34] <NeVeR_> oic :| lol
[11:34] <charlvn> this is an ubuntu support channel, not really a canonical channel
[11:35] <NeVeR_> I want to get some sort of certification, looking at changing jobs.. I was just looking at some course at Obsysdian and it said I should do the pre-assesment... did it but it tells me nothing :P
[11:35] <inetpro> charlvn: s/ubuntu support channel/ubuntu community channel/
[11:35] <charlvn> inetpro: you're right, community channel
[11:36] <charlvn> NeVeR_: it's a good question, i don't really know what is considered a "good" option for certification
[11:36] <charlvn> i, for one, have no formal linux certification, and that's the way i prefer to keep it
[11:37]  * inetpro agrees with charlvn
[11:37] <inetpro> autodidacticism ftw!
[11:38] <charlvn> i use such a stack of software, for me to even attempt to formally qualify myself in any of those is impractical
[11:38] <charlvn> i just did a B.Sc. in software engineering for some background
[11:39] <charlvn> autodidacticism++
[11:39] <charlvn> ok meeting bbl
[11:39] <inetpro> charlvn: enjoy!
[11:41]  * inetpro checks the topic
[11:41] <inetpro> I wonder how that Ubuntu Hour went on Saturday
[11:42] <inetpro> hope someone can help us update the topic 
[11:45] <superfly> NeVeR_: I know that Obsidian offers a number of certifications. It's probably a good idea to get a certification from them, and you might get a job through their connections
[12:11] <NeVeR_> thanks for the info guys :)
[12:48] <mazal> Bye everyone , have a good afternoon
[13:35] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday superfly  and others
[13:35] <Kilos> hi NeVeR_ 
[13:35] <Kilos> lol
[13:37] <charlvn> hi Kilos 
[13:37] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[13:37] <Kilos> hey charlvn all good
[13:37] <charlvn> yup yup
[13:37] <charlvn> just rainy
[13:37] <charlvn> and you?
[13:38] <Kilos> im good ty where is it raining?
[13:38] <charlvn> where i live in unknown location :)
[13:38] <Kilos> ha ha ha no man cant be the tvl  so maybe the cape or natal 
[13:39] <charlvn> not .za
[13:39] <charlvn> :)
[13:39] <Kilos> ah
[13:39] <Kilos> oh you also there
[13:39] <Kilos> with psydroid  and the smiley guy
[13:39] <charlvn> "there"?
[13:39] <charlvn> ah from my hostname charlvn.nl
[13:40] <charlvn> good guess, that might or might not be correct
[13:40] <charlvn> if you traceroute the url you will end up in germany
[13:40] <charlvn> the hostname i mean
[13:40] <charlvn> but that might or might not be where i live
[13:40] <Kilos> not a guess you put in the country when you sign up with irc
[13:41] <Kilos> or did you talk a lie
[13:41] <charlvn> you don't "sign up" with irc, you just connect to a server
[13:41] <charlvn> oh wait you are using a client like xchat that gives you the country?
[13:41] <Kilos> lol ya
[13:41] <charlvn> it just determines that by the cctld in the hostname
[13:41] <charlvn> it has a list of cctlds and the corresponding names of the country
[13:41] <Kilos> cctld?
[13:42] <charlvn> country-code top level domain
[13:42] <charlvn> .nl or .za or similar
[13:42] <NeVeR_> Hi Kilos
[13:42] <NeVeR_> :P
[13:42] <Kilos> whew thats a mouthfull
[13:42] <charlvn> yeah
[13:42] <charlvn> you also get a gtld - a general top level domain
[13:42] <Kilos> NeVeR_, are you new here?
[13:42] <charlvn> generic, sorry, not general
[13:43] <NeVeR_> Yea I'm new :)
[13:43] <Kilos> NeVeR_, welcome to ubuntu-za
[13:43] <zeref> huurrrrrmmm, internet back :D
[13:43] <zeref> pew pew, weo weo
[13:43] <Kilos> hi zeref 
[13:43] <zeref> hi Kilos 
[13:43] <charlvn> hi zeref, your internet was down?
[13:44] <zeref> yeah since last wednesday
[13:44] <charlvn> that sucks
[13:44] <Kilos> wow that sucks zeref 
[13:44] <charlvn> wow since wednesday, that's a long time
[13:44] <Kilos> zeref, arent you at the varsity?
[13:45] <zeref> my life was meh, for bout a week
[13:45] <NeVeR_> thx :> is there a local entry point for this irc server??
[13:45] <zeref> Kilos: webs at res...
[13:45] <Kilos> NeVeR_, yes freenode
[13:45] <zeref> was lazy to go to campus, esp in the evening
[13:46] <Kilos> yeah zeref too cold
[13:46] <Kilos> NeVeR_, are you using xchat or quassel
[13:46] <NeVeR_> neither at the moment lol... I'
[13:46] <NeVeR_> I'm using a webclient
[13:47] <NeVeR_> I'm on my work laptop.. its windows (puke)
[13:47] <NeVeR_> its got windows
[13:47] <Kilos> ok you can install xchat and set it up to come here easily
[13:47] <Kilos> ouch
[13:47] <Kilos> you get xchat for winsucks as well
[13:48] <NeVeR_> lol I got Mirc on winsucks
[13:48] <NeVeR_> mIRC
[13:48] <NeVeR_> is it za.freenode.net ?
[13:48] <charlvn> NeVeR_: afaik there are no south african servers for freenode
[13:48] <NeVeR_> :( i see
[13:48] <Kilos> nope
[13:48] <Kilos> just freenode
[13:48] <charlvn> there are a bunch in the usa, a bunch in europe, and one in australia
[13:49] <Kilos> methinks xchat is easier than mirc
[13:49] <NeVeR_> I can't connect from my work, delay is too bad.. just times out :\ can only connect through a web client
[13:49] <Kilos> aw
[13:49] <charlvn> it's ridiculous that the windows build of xchat is shareware
[13:50] <charlvn> http://xchat.org/windows/
[13:50] <Kilos> NeVeR_, where are you?
[13:50] <NeVeR_> Where am I? O_o Bryanston
[13:51] <charlvn> oh i see there are some free non-official builds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Chat
[13:51] <charlvn> NeVeR_: freenode has an incredibly high ping timeout threshold so if that happens your internet is pretty screwed
[13:52] <charlvn> or run linux inside a virtual machine and run xchat/irssi or similar inside of that, another alternative
[13:52] <Kilos> NeVeR_, win 7 or xp?
[13:52] <NeVeR_> Win 7
[13:52] <NeVeR_> I'll give xchat a try tonight... got lots of work to do for now :/
[13:52] <Kilos> Maaz, google free xchat for win7
[13:52] <Maaz> Kilos: "XChat: Multiplatform Chat Program" http://xchat.org/ :: "XChat for Windows" http://xchat.org/windows/ :: "X-Chat 2 for Windows" http://www.silverex.org/ :: "XChat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XChat :: "xchat Windows 7 - Free Download Windows 7 xchat" http://www.windows7download.com/free-win7-xchat/ :: "Download X-Chat for Windows 7 free - Windows 7 Download" http://www.windows7download.com/win7-x-
[13:53] <charlvn> silverex is the one i just found
[13:53] <charlvn> there are some more on the wikipedia page
[13:53] <NeVeR_> yoooooh
[13:54] <NeVeR_> I g2g :) Speakya guys later.. Thanks for the warm welcome!
[13:54] <Kilos> yw NeVeR_ 
[14:11] <Kilos> dag sê HawkiesZA 
[14:14] <Kilos> hey sakhi you still going strong?
[14:15] <Kilos> inetpro, howzit boet
[14:17] <HawkiesZA> 'lo Kilos. I'm actually on my way now
[14:17] <Kilos> go well HawkiesZA 
[14:17] <HawkiesZA> Will log in again when I'm home
[14:18] <HawkiesZA> Cheers
[14:18] <Kilos> cool
[14:18] <Kilos> does he ever chat? first time ive seen him say something
[14:19] <Kilos> Maaz, tell magespawn. wassup stranger
[14:19] <Maaz> Kilos: I don't know who magespawn. is. Say 'magespawn. on freenode' and I'll take your word that magespawn. exists
[14:19] <Kilos> sigh
[14:19] <Kilos> Maaz, tell magespawn on freenode . wassup stranger
[14:19] <Maaz> Kilos: Got it, I'll tell magespawn on freenode
[14:21] <Kilos> maiatoday, what was the study results girl
[14:21] <Kilos> ?
[15:08] <Kilos> bbl
[17:08] <charlvn> good evening folks
[17:12] <mazal> Hello charlvn
[17:41] <Kilos> hi superfly and other geeks
[17:41] <Kilos> yo smile4linux 
[17:41] <superfly> evening Kilos
[17:45] <Kilos> yo magespawn you still alive?
[17:45] <magespawn> Evening all
[17:45] <magespawn> Hi Kilos, onky just.
[17:45] <magespawn> Only
[17:45] <Kilos> whats wrong lad?
[17:45] <magespawn> Just busy.
[17:45] <Kilos> busy is good man
[17:46] <magespawn> Yes but does not allow me much time to come here or get gc back online
[17:47] <Kilos> haha i missed gc other day because maaz fogot where to find the PTA weather report
[17:51] <inetpro> good evening fine folk!
[17:52] <Kilos> yo gussie koud ne
[17:52] <inetpro> Kilos: yep, word beslis al hoe kouer
[17:52] <inetpro> verwarmer is aan
[17:52] <Kilos> sjoe as dit nie vanaand ryp nie dan weet ek nie
[17:53] <Kilos> maar die vye bome bot
[17:53] <Kilos> so hopelik n kort koue tyd
[17:54] <inetpro> hmm...
[17:54] <inetpro> hoop daai vyebome is reg
[17:54] <inetpro> dalk is hulle deurmekaar
[17:54] <Kilos> lol ja kan wees
[17:55] <inetpro> wat sê die weerburo?
[17:55] <inetpro> wat is die minimum vir more?
[17:55] <Kilos> so tussen 4 en 6°c hier
[17:55] <Kerbero> 6
[17:56] <Kilos> ons is bietjie kouer as pta 
[17:56] <Kilos> meer soos jhb
[17:57] <Kilos> dankie Kerbero 
[17:58] <Kilos> gaan dit goed?
[18:03] <smile4linux> hallo Kilos :)
[18:09] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[18:09]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[18:11] <magespawn> You guys really should come down here in winter.
[18:12] <Kilos> Maaz, hot
[18:12] <Kilos> hmm
[18:12] <Maaz> Come on Kilos How many peeps do you know that make coffee with cold water twit!
[18:13] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:27] <Kilos> sleep tight all. see ya morrow
[18:31] <smile4linux> bye :)
[20:12] <magespawn> Night all.