[00:00] <Nowayz> reisio: I got it working!
[00:00] <Ceres> "Bash" commands, perhaps?
[00:00] <janrinze2> OerHeks: deb file? seriously? it is just a simple executable
[00:00] <Ceres> I want several programs I'm running to start at boot.
[00:00] <Nowayz> reisio: Thanks for the help, now I just have to fiddle a bit and see if it sounds any good
[00:00] <Ceres> So I'd have to do something like: $ node file/path.js
[00:01] <Ceres> And: $ DreamDaemon file/path.dmb -options
[00:01] <janrinze2> OerHeks: how do you create a deb from a simple executable?
[00:01] <Ceres> I want my servers to start automatically if my co-workers need to reboot the machine while I'm away.
[00:01] <escott> janrinze2, checkinstall
[00:02] <OerHeks> janrinze2, i read you wrong, you want to create a application link to a filetype
[00:02] <|Anthony|> i can't remember offhand, what command can i send to dd while it's running to check the status?
[00:03] <samd> Ceres: are you running the ubuntu server version? or the desktop version?
[00:03] <janrinze2> escott: checkinstall creates  deb file?
[00:03] <Ceres> Desktop.
[00:03] <Ceres> 12.04
[00:03] <Ceres> Just downloaded and started 4 days ago.
[00:04] <janrinze2> OerHeks: yes, i need to have nautilus to use my app to open specific filetypes
[00:04] <Nowayz> Does anybody know how to manage pulse audio and work with it to reduce audiochoppyness
[00:04] <samd> Ceres: you can add programs to run at startup by clicking the top right corner (the power icon) and "startup applications"
[00:04] <Ceres> Thanks.
[00:04] <samd> Ceres: no problem
[00:05] <Ceres> I'm guessing this gets appended to a file somewhere. I'm so glad there's no registery.
[00:05] <LinuX2half> Is anyone familiar with Rhythmbox's character encoding?
[00:06] <janrinze2> OerHeks: older distros had the option to add a custom command line to use on a filetype
[00:06] <escott> janrinze2, yes
[00:06] <Ceres> Hm... The commands are different depending on the directory you're cd'd in.
[00:07] <Ceres> Eh. I"ll figure that out later. Back to the code. Thanks again.
[00:07] <samd> Ceres: yea, you better use absolute paths in the startup apps, in fact, you better make a script or something, and call it from there
[00:08] <LinuX2half> Then how about, does anyone know how to make the title tag match the file tag?
[00:11] <janrinze2> escott: looking at checkinstall i cannot see how it would help me
[00:12] <janrinze2> escott: checkinstall can't magically know what to do.. right?
[00:13] <zykotick9> janrinze2: true.  but checkinstall CAN magically remove the program, where a normal source compile can be difficult to remove.
[00:13] <escott> janrinze2, i wasnt following too closely what you were doing, but checkinstall will create debs from a ./configure; make; checkinstall; process
[00:14] <janrinze2> escott: it is a simple c program i made, no .configure etc..
[00:14] <escott> janrinze2, whatever. checkinstall replaces make install
[00:14] <trism> janrinze2: you can create a .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications/ and make sure the Exec= line has the appropriate exec key (%f if you just need a single file argument)
[00:14] <tr3nton> !vmware
[00:15] <zykotick9> QEmu in !vmware's factoid should be read KVM (if you have cpu virtualization)
[00:15] <trism> janrinze2:  then you should be able to add it to open with by right clicking on the file type in nautilus/Properties/Open With
[00:16] <SixSickTrix> Hello. Just installed 12.04 getting only balck screen after reboot. Looked at some things on google they talked about doing some grub stuff. I can't even get into grub, my screen goes black right after boot screen. Wondering if there is a solution for it since I can't get into grub?
[00:16] <reisio> SixSickTrix: not sure GRUB shows by default, you might have to hold down SHIFT during bootup
[00:17] <zykotick9> SixSickTrix: are you boot the correct drive?
[00:18] <SixSickTrix> Only one drive connected for now. Will try shift.
[00:19] <janrinze2> trism: only one line with exec=~/bin/myapp %f ?
[00:19] <SixSickTrix> Okay it said grub loading and then went black.
[00:20] <escott> janrinze2, ~ should not be used there
[00:20] <trism> janrinze2: you will probably need at least the Name= line too, if you want to be able to find it
[00:20] <LinuX2half> Does anyone have any clue on how to match the title and the file name?
[00:21] <LinuX2half> on Rhythmbox
[00:21] <janrinze2> trism: perhaps a URL to a howto would help. a .desktop file probably has need for more formatting than a single line
[00:21] <trism> janrinze2: if you have gnome-panel installed, you can use: gnome-desktop-item-edit ~/.local/share/applications/appname.desktop; and use a gui to create it
[00:22] <janrinze2> trism: so not .desktop but application.desktop ?
[00:22] <trism> janrinze2: yes
[00:23] <janrinze2> trism: or <appname>.desktop ?
[00:23] <trism> janrinze2: anythingyouwant.desktop
[00:24] <janrinze2> trism:  i was referring to BNF
[00:24] <trism> janrinze2: the name of the file doesn't matter, as long as it ends in .desktop
[00:28] <janrinze2> trism: i probably need to logout an login agan for the desktop to pick up that file, right?
[00:29] <trism> janrinze2: not necessarily
[00:30] <janrinze2> trism: nautilus has not added the entry
[00:30] <janrinze2> will try to logout and login to see if that helps
[00:31] <trism> janrinze2: shows up instantly here, right click on the file/properties/open with/show other applications
[00:31] <janrinze2> trism: not here apparently
[00:32] <Poesghost> is there a way to have more than just 4 desktops on 12.04?
[00:33] <RastaZebra> heyyhow do i install more themes?
[00:33] <GeekAdmin> (Rasta Zebra is using Gnome classic no effects on 12.04)
[00:33] <reisio> Poesghost: http://helpdeskgeek.com/linux-tips/use-more-than-four-workspaces-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[00:33] <reisio> RastaZebra: with the package manager
[00:33] <Poesghost> reisio: Thank you.
[00:37] <AndIrc_47> hello
[00:37] <JoseeAntonioR> Hi, AndIrc_47
[00:37] <quebre> is there some good howto about creating ubuntu packages for Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS ?
[00:38] <AndIrc_47> what is the time in your place
[00:45] <tom5> hello
[00:45] <janrinze2> trism: the .desktop file needs a bit more. i copied from another app and now it works :-)
[00:45] <mwmnj> How can I reduce an image file size in gimp?
[00:45] <zykotick9> mwmnj: scale
[00:45] <reisio> mwmnj: change format, compress more, etc.
[00:46] <mwmnj> is 60kb smaller than 700k?
[00:47] <reisio> mwmnj: eh?
[00:47] <mwmnj> 60kb is larger than 700k yes?
[00:47] <trism> janrinze2: excellent
[00:47] <quebre> yes
[00:48] <reisio> mwmnj: what're you comparing?
[00:48] <quebre> kilograms to kilobytes?
[00:48] <quebre> ;]
[00:48] <mwmnj> image
[00:48] <reisio> mwmnj: yes...
[00:48] <reisio> and?
[00:49] <mwmnj> Twitter image can't be larger than 700k
[00:49] <quebre> 700kb
[00:49] <reisio> mwmnj: what's the image of?
[00:49] <quebre> mwmnj: your 60kb meet the criteria
[00:49] <quebre> go ahead and use this image ;)
[00:49] <mwmnj> Image -> properties of the image I want to upload says it is 20kb
[00:49] <reisio> 20 is less than 700
[00:49] <Yago> How do I run/install a .dpg file?
[00:50] <reisio> Yago: never heard of it
[00:50] <quebre> is there some good howto about creating ubuntu packages for Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS ?
[00:51] <mwmnj> k, thanks
[00:51] <Yago> how about a x86-64_linux file?
[00:51] <Yago> ".x86_64_linux"
[00:51] <Yago> ".x86_64-linux"
[00:52] <quebre> i may be in wrong place, hmm
[00:53] <Yago> how do you run a ".x86_64-linux" file?
[00:53] <quebre> Yago: ./.x86_64-linux
[00:53] <quebre> that's how :)
[00:53] <Yago> oh
[00:53] <Yago> wow
[00:53] <Yago> ok
[00:55] <Yago> quebre, how do i set the permissions to be able to run
[00:55] <Yago> chmod ?
[00:56] <netmk> chmod +x <file>
[00:56] <Yago> thanks
[00:57] <quebre> i have too new howto about creating damn packages !
[00:59] <ChrisWere> hey guys, anyone good with usb mics? Pulse audio isn't picking mine up, but alsamixer is. I need to record my mic with pulse audio otherwise is fails to sync with the video on my webcam. Any help available?
[00:59] <Kornkage> how do i dowload using svn ?
[00:59] <quebre> Kornkage: svn co [url]
[01:00] <quebre> ChrisWere: remove pulse audio, like i did, garbage software is garbage, maybe little improved these times but still...
[01:00] <Kornkage> thx
[01:00] <ChrisWere> quebre: will that help my usb mic get picked up?
[01:01] <quebre> ChrisWere: i had audio problems, wanted to fix it, but once fixed, other thing like mic was broken so i fixed it permamently by removing pulse ;p you can try, if it doesn't work you can always install it back
[01:03] <Kaleidoscope> Anyone know of a possible way to put a windows ISO onto a bootable USB? Unetbootin didn't work
[01:03] <GeekAdmin> Win2Flash
[01:04] <Kaleidoscope> Fastest response I've ever got O.o Many thanks, GeekAdmin
[01:04] <GeekAdmin> hehe  no problem
[01:04] <KorvinSzanto> How can I change the icon of a .jar?
[01:04] <KorvinSzanto> a single .jar without effecting the others
[01:05] <iLogical> mixer isn't remembering the volume of captiure
[01:05] <iLogical> 12.04
[01:05] <iLogical> xfce
[01:06] <emorris> hi, if I boot from the alternate CD and select "rescue a broken system", it asks me for the language and keyboard layout, and proceeds to load a load of stuff. But then it just sits at a blank purple screen with "Rescue mode" at the top and hangs indefinitely. Any ideas of how to continue? Thanks
[01:06] <ChrisWere> hi, I'm back so I've just un-installed pulse also, now none of my playback devices are detected?
[01:07] <StubbyBanana> You guys are better.
[01:07] <cpet> ChrisWere: why did you remove pulse audio?
[01:07] <StubbyBanana> ##windows people quiet me for no reason.
[01:07] <KorvinSzanto> emorris,  screw with the settings with the f6 menu and try till it works
[01:07] <StubbyBanana> Spamming is no reason!
[01:07] <ChrisWere> cpet: someone here told me it might help with my usb microphone not being detected by pulseaudio
[01:07] <KorvinSzanto> I'm running 12.04, how do I change an applications icon?
[01:07] <cpet> most linux distros are using pulseaudio heavyly so uninstalling it will break things
[01:08] <KorvinSzanto> ChrisWere, I had difficulties with my mic
[01:08] <KorvinSzanto> open up alsamixer
[01:08] <reisio> well installing it improperly
[01:08] <KorvinSzanto> and make sure those settings are correct
[01:08] <ChrisWere> KorvinSzanto: okay, in a terminal?
[01:08] <KorvinSzanto> yes
[01:09] <ChrisWere> KorvinSzanto: done
[01:09] <PC-X69> ?
[01:09] <KorvinSzanto> My issue was that my line-in was set to low volume
[01:09] <KorvinSzanto> make sure that your settings are sound
[01:09] <KorvinSzanto> pun not intended
[01:09] <DisableMe> hello?
[01:09] <PC-X69> 第一次用这个
[01:09] <ChrisWere> KorvinSzantoI've done this a million times
[01:09] <Blackshirt> hello?
[01:09] <PC-X69> hello
[01:09] <DisableMe> i have a small problem
[01:10] <Blackshirt> I think that was a big problem
[01:10] <PC-X69> 有没有会说中文的？
[01:10] <ChrisWere> KorvinSzanto: I wouldn't be asking here if I hadn't check alsamixer settings
[01:10] <DisableMe> what was a big problem?
[01:10] <tr3nton> !en | PC-X69
[01:11] <PC-X69> did not speak chinese?
[01:12] <DisableMe> for some reason, windows is not an option when i boot
[01:12] <PC-X69> Because windows is not beautiful??
[01:13] <Strav`> Hi! By chance, anyone else here using an intel 5100 agn wifi card on ubuntu 12.04? (it seems I'm having the following bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/996205 . I'm looking for some workaround, fixes or simply to know if anyone else is experiencing the troubles I have)
[01:13] <DisableMe> PC-X69: what is that supposed to mean?
[01:14] <cheako> Hello, I have several jpg files that I'd like put into pages as a PDF.  Any ideas?  I'm going to try with gimp first.
[01:14] <DisableMe> i cant boot back into windows. im kinda freaking out here.
[01:15] <Strav`> cheako: try image magick
[01:15] <ChristopherNg> wow its more dead in here than usual
[01:15] <ChristopherNg> lol
[01:15] <Strav`> cheako: I'm not certain if it does the job exactly the way you want, but there are strong chances that yes (it's otherwise very usefull for batch processing images)
[01:16] <DisableMe> anybody?
[01:16] <Strav`> ... either programatically or from command line.
[01:16] <Strav`> DisableMe: this is a classic
[01:16] <ChrisWere> my webcam and mic are slightly out of sync when they record in guvcview, does anyone know what I can do to help this? Has anyone had experience with this before?
[01:17] <Blackshirt> !classic
[01:17] <DisableMe> Strav: Classic problem?
[01:17] <synergizm> hey guys, i just updated to 12.04 64. in the last version my additional mediakeys on my keaboard worked just fine but now they dont. any ideas?
[01:18] <ChrisWere> synergizm: it's often the case with these programs that you need to delete the config files and start over. You will lose you settings though
[01:19] <Strav`> DisableMe: yes. Well I'm not totally up to the story but let me guess: you installed ubuntu on an new partition but then, from grub,  you don't see windows amgonst your boot options?
[01:19] <synergizm> ChrisWere: i never installed any additional software to get the mediakeys/volumecontrol running.
[01:20] <synergizm> ChrisWere: well i just realized the mediabuttons are working just the volume control doesnt
[01:21] <Strav`> so lspci | grep "5100 AGN" anyone?
[01:23] <Strav`> DisableMe: btw don't worry, you can either fix grub or restore the windows boot loader quite easily.
[01:23] <cheako> Strav`: Answer both gimp and IM. https://patrick-nagel.net/blog/archives/199
[01:24] <synergizm> Im able to set the volume keys in the settings. they just wont do anything afterwards
[01:24] <Strav`> cheako: sweet :)
[01:26] <DisableMe> really happy to hear that Vampire0, and Strav`: good guess but how do i fix it?
[01:27] <strango982> Why does all my traffic go to 127.0.0.1?
[01:28] <nut> hi yall
[01:28] <strango982> shouldn't they go to the website's address
[01:28] <Strav`> DisableMe: from a terminal is you run sudo update-grub2, do you see windows listed in the output?
[01:28] <cpet> strango982: check hosts ?
[01:28] <strango982> cpet: what?
[01:28] <tbrown2012fb> Is there a chat room for teens and chatting on Freenode or something
[01:28] <strango982> cpet: this is a fresh ubuntu installation
[01:29] <nut> ne 1every had the grub display disappear??
[01:30] <DisableMe> Strav`: It says linux, initrid, and memtest
[01:30] <strango982> i guess everyone here is as clueless as me in my problem
[01:30] <nut> what is that??
[01:30] <emorris> I tried KorvinSzanto's advice, but to no avail, and he seems to have gone. Anyone else any ideas? Rescue mode seems to be getting to a certain point (just after network detection I think) the freezing.
[01:30] <cpet> strango982: so all websites goto 127.0.0.1
[01:30] <strango982> cpet: yes
[01:31] <cpet> strango982: is this the machine you are ircing as ?
[01:31] <strango982> cpet: no
[01:31] <escott> strango982, but you can ping outside?
[01:31] <cpet> strango982: then that machien doesn't have inet check it
[01:31] <strango982> escott: i'm trying to setup iptables to drop packets that don't go through my vpn
[01:31] <cpet> ping google.com
[01:31] <cpet> ifconfig
[01:31] <cpet> see if you have an ip
[01:31] <escott> strango982, then you probably have the iptables rules wrong
[01:31] <cpet> if you do see what your route table looks like
[01:31] <nut> on a desktop i cant get it to find my wired network
[01:32] <strango982> cpet: i do, without the iptables rules its fine
[01:32] <cpet> oh then kill iptables
[01:32] <cpet> and use ufw
[01:32] <cheako> Worked first try.
[01:32] <strango982> escott: i have flushed all my rules and just started logging everything
[01:32] <cpet> i see no point in having iptables on a desktop
[01:32] <strango982> every packet goes through 127.0.0.1
[01:32] <cpet> but any ways
[01:32] <Strav`> DisableMe: and you're certain you've installed ubuntu on a different partition than your windows'?
[01:32] <nut> my grubhas disappeard when load this linux for some reason
[01:33] <cpet> strango982: remove the iptables rules and use ufw to create then
[01:33] <cpet> nut restore it ?
[01:33] <strango982> cpet: what difference does that make?
[01:33] <cpet> you have some rules that is causing it to forward all to localhost
[01:33] <cpet> that is if you mentioned without iptables it works
[01:33] <nut> i did i think just aint checked it yet  been wanting to figure out how to make my own
[01:33] <escott> strango982, if you want to post your rules we can look at them
[01:33] <DisableMe> Strav`: 100% sure, i triple checked all saftey components to make sure my windows files were not lost. Although at the installation it didnt detect any other operating system
[01:34] <synergizm> i cant get the volume control keys on my keyboard working. mediakeys are working finde just the volume control wont do shit :(
[01:34] <strango982> i only have one rule, and its plain and simple: "iptables -A OUTPUT -j LOG --log-level 7"
[01:34] <cpet> ufw is a nice nifty program that deals with simple firewall rules
[01:34] <strango982> why do you guys always assume
[01:34] <jkitchen> any good docs out there about hardening ubuntu? (grsec/selinux, etc)
[01:34] <Strav`> DisableMe: ok. then what output does sudo os-prober gives you?
[01:34] <synergizm> ah ubuntu 12.04 64 ^^
[01:35] <cpet> strango982: you seem to know more than us then
[01:35] <cpet> strango982: hurray for you!
[01:35] <nut> im new n learning lol
[01:35] <strango982> cpet: is this some sort of circlejerk channel?
[01:35] <cpet> strango982: could be
[01:35] <Strav`> jkitchen: I've been searching for that as well. If you stumble on anything better (and more updated) than the debian's hardening guide, let me know.
[01:35] <gtank> hello, I am seeking help with ubuntu 12.04
[01:35] <Yago> is there a way to do 2 wubi installations?
[01:36] <escott> !language | strango982
[01:36] <DisableMe> Strav`: sudo os-prober isnt a command it didnt do anything
[01:36] <xiaolong> 这里有 哈
[01:36] <escott> !cn | xiaolong
[01:36] <Strav`> jkitchen: btw, if you're up to securing a host, I'd recommend you try v-servers + grsec :_
[01:36] <cpet> Yago: install the second on a different dir ?
[01:36] <strango982> escott: is it my tone that's bothering you?
[01:36] <xiaolong> 这里有哈
[01:36] <jkitchen> Strav`: hrm. debian hardening guide, hadn't seen that. looking at perhaps adapting gentoo-hardened's guide, but I would like to stick with stock kernels as much as possible so I can get uptrack patches
[01:36] <Strav`> DisableMe: sudo apt-get install os-prober
[01:36] <Yago> cpet, oh that makes sense
[01:37] <Yago> cpet, will there be more than one boot options?
[01:37] <cpet> that I do not know
[01:37] <jkitchen> I'm thinking about setting up a box and giving some friends of mine shells, and want to make sure the machine is as secure as possible before I do so
[01:37] <gtank> i have problems installing ati drivers so my gpu fan is always at 100% speed, which makes my pc really loud
[01:37] <Strav`> jkitchen: is there any repo that keeps the grsec + pax patches synced?
[01:37] <escott> strango982, if it were tone i would !attitude you.
[01:37] <cpet> I run linux in a vm
[01:37] <nut> on a different mount point in the install??
[01:37]  * cpet pets escott 
[01:37] <jkitchen> Strav`: at my former job we had our own kernels and a contract for uptrack updates to our custom sources
[01:38] <xiaolong> 这里
[01:38] <escott> !cn | xiaolong
[01:38] <xiaolong> 这里
[01:38] <escott> !cn > xiaolong
[01:38] <Wally> What do you guys think of the Cloud?
[01:38] <jkitchen> \wii jkitchen
[01:38] <jkitchen> oop
[01:39] <Yago> cpet, the problem is that in a vm i get alot of lag and decreased speed
[01:39] <DisableMe> Strav`: os-prober still doesn't do anything after i did that
[01:39] <jagginess> Wally, you mean openstack? i never tried it
[01:39] <Wally> WTF is openstack?
[01:39] <jagginess> Wally, it's a cloud.
[01:39] <Wally> ahh
[01:39] <cpet> Yago: i don't seem to have that problem but my machine has 16GB of ram heh
[01:39] <xiaolong> 我在这里
[01:39] <jagginess> take your head out of the sand
[01:39] <Strav`> jkitchen: yea I'd like something like that for ubuntu, much like what gentoo is doing for hardened gentoo, a "secure" flavor of ubuntu. There's been some draft proposal for this in the past but it seems to have rot.
[01:39] <nut> never good
[01:39] <ethek> hello, can someone help me debug why my software-center will not load. It crashes on startup
[01:39] <Wally> I'm not an ostrich.
[01:39] <Yago> cpet, lol how much do you allocate to the vm?
[01:39] <xiaolong> 中国朋友哪去了？
[01:40] <cpet> about 4
[01:40] <escott> jagginess, in the end there can be only one. may it be duncan mccloud
[01:40] <ethek> my ubuntu-one will also crash on startup..
[01:40] <cpet> Yago: about 4
[01:40] <Yago> ok
[01:40] <Yago> thanks
[01:40] <cpet> also disk io can be then issue
[01:41] <cpet> if you are downloading a torrent, watching a movie, talking, etc.. and you complain that the vm is slow well :)
[01:41] <Yago> yea, but im getting pretty fast disk with wubi (even tho its supposed to be slow)
[01:41] <Yago> cpet, its more like opening simple programs and loading webpages
[01:41] <cpet> and it's slow?
[01:41] <Yago> if it takes more than 1 second to load a webpage on a vm then its slow for me
[01:42] <Yago> lol
[01:42] <jagginess> Yago, if it takes 1 second then it's slow for me.
[01:42] <Strav`> DisableMe: try sudo update-grub2 again, I think it might use os-prober and since you didn't had it installed, you might get different results this time.
[01:42] <Yago> cpet, running online games is slow for me
[01:42] <cpet> Yago: I use squid to limit bandwidth for web sites, etc..
[01:42] <Yago> cpet, squid?
[01:43] <jagginess> Yago, he runs his own websites
[01:43] <DisableMe> strav`:results were the same
[01:43] <escott> !info squid | cpet
[01:43] <cpet> er not squid pf
[01:43] <Strav`> DisableMe: hmmmm.
[01:43] <Yago> escott, lol that helps? oh and hi
[01:43] <DisableMe> strav`: i dont like the sounds of that
[01:43] <escott> Yago, i was assuming/hoping it would say the word proxy in there
[01:43] <cpet> i use squid to block/limit certain file downloads
[01:44] <Yago> oh
[01:44] <cpet> and pf using altq does bandwidth limitations
[01:45] <nut> hi yall
[01:45] <Strav`> DisableMe: btw which version of ubuntu are you on?
[01:45] <cpet> i need to debug why x is slow as times
[01:45] <cpet> and why I have 5 zombie procs
[01:46] <cpet> I am sure it is caused by flash
[01:46] <Yago> ok heres the true problem: I want to run certain java programs that may contain viruses... I'm looking for two different Ubuntu slots, one for personal use and the other for running the programs... I was thinking of installing multiple wubi but idk if thats possible. What should I do?
[01:46] <nut> didnt work isnt it grub-install /dev/something?
[01:46] <cpet> but wrong place to talk about this
[01:47] <cpet> nut grub-restore
[01:47] <cpet> and specify the backup mbr
[01:47] <DisableMe> Strav`: 12.04 64-bit version, or in other words, the newest one
[01:47] <cpet> Yago: why?
[01:47] <jagginess> Yago, uh viruses? wrong forum buddy
[01:47] <Strav`> DisableMe: ok
[01:47] <cpet> linux isn't windows so virus wont work
[01:48] <escott> cpet, zombies arent that big a deal. its just a sign that some process is dying instead of waiting on its children
[01:48] <cpet> but yeah wrong place for this
[01:48] <Yago> jagginess, im not asking for one or giving one... I think the program keylog so Im wondering how I can get two ubuntu slots
[01:48] <nut> oh k i will try it im gonna reinstall this back to the hd later installed it in a different pc then to here lol
[01:48] <Yago> jagginess, one for personal use and one for running random downloaded programs
[01:48] <cpet> Yago: why?
[01:48] <Yago> cpet, why what?
[01:48] <jagginess> Yago, ubuntu slots? you sound like you're misleading alot of us here.. most of us (i say 99%) don't use wubi
[01:48] <cpet> would you want to do that
[01:48] <DisableMe> Strav`: at this point should i just kiss my windows goodbye :(
[01:49] <cpet> DisableMe: what is the issue ?
[01:49] <xetoare> hi everyone
[01:49] <Yago> jagginess, i dont know how to call them... I can't say boxs = computers and multiple wubi's is not possible so slots?
[01:49] <cpet> hi
[01:49] <nut> why get rid of windows
[01:49] <Yago> jagginess, what should I use?
[01:49] <nut> hi xe
[01:49] <Yago> cpet, its a long story
[01:49] <jagginess> Yago, don't download things you don't buy.. simply as that..
[01:49] <cpet> it
[01:49] <cpet> er its sunday and i am sure most of us here would like to know why you are trying to do this
[01:50] <Yago> i dont wanna get yelled at for going offtopic then
[01:50] <xetoare> i've got a question re: apache2 config on ubuntu, is this the right place to ask? :)
[01:50] <Yago> k?
[01:50] <Strav`> DisableMe: do you know on which device your windows partition is? (in /dev/ ?)
[01:50] <Yago> cool?
[01:50] <smw> xetoare, anything ubuntu related is fine
[01:50] <jkitchen> xetoare: certainly not the worst place you could ask
[01:50] <saliak> I have a script that needs to copy a file to a protected directory.  I'd like to give that script sudo permissions w/out password.  is that possible?
[01:50] <jagginess> Yago, viruses is offtopic.. has no real existence on any linux really..
[01:50] <cpet> xetoare: what is the issue?
[01:50] <nut> heck i dont even know how to move around in here or where i can go yet lol
[01:50] <Yago> lol so you dont wanna know the story?
[01:50] <escott> saliak, sudo doesnt work with scripts
[01:50] <xetoare> just double-checking, don't want to be off topic lol
[01:51] <cpet> xetoare: msg me if you wish then
[01:51] <Yago> jagginess, i've heard JRats do exist on ubuntu
[01:51] <smw> xetoare, but #ubuntu-server is another good place to ask
[01:51] <jkitchen> sudo doesn't work with scripts? do you mean suid?
[01:51] <smw> xetoare, certainly not offtopic
[01:51] <Yago> so what should I do?
[01:51] <escott> jkitchen, yes. sorry
[01:51] <escott> saliak, suid doesnt work with scripts
[01:51] <jkitchen> escott: ok, just making sure :)
[01:51] <nut> what is the topic??
[01:52] <cpet> Yago: stop being a paranoid bitch and use one wubi install?
[01:52] <DisableMe> Strav`: I have no idea where or what your talking about. lol i literally just experienced linux 20 minutes ago
[01:52] <escott> jkitchen, thanks for catching that. i was jumping a bit ahead
[01:52] <Yago> !language | cpet
[01:52] <nut> id like to get atleast 2 or 3 on a flash drive
[01:52] <Yago> cpet, lol not paranoid, just careful
[01:53] <saliak> escott:  how would i accomplish this?  fetch mail grabs emails, passes them to procmail that runs a script that needs to create a .call file for asterisk (in a directory owned by asterisk:asterisk).  my final issue is that i need to be able to copy the file to the directory.  i tried adding fetchmail user to the asterisk group (by editing /etc/groups), but no luck
[01:53] <nut> im pretty new to it too disableme
[01:53] <DisableMe> Strav`: All i know is i have a 1.5TB hard drive and i gave 150GB to ubuntu from the end of the drive
[01:53] <escott> saliak, write in C. or write a wrapper in C that is marked suid and starts your script
[01:53] <Yago> jagginess, what do you recommend besides a vm? Tripple booting or something?
[01:54] <DisableMe> Strav`: and if it helps at all i was using Windows 8 Consumer Preview
[01:54] <escott> saliak, i dont see why adding the fetchmail user to the asterick group wouldn't work. what uid does the fetchmail process run under?
[01:54] <cpet> Yago: when you run wubi you are booting Linux from the windows partiton
[01:55] <nut> disableme there r alot of things that u can find if u google the error or problem ur having and go from there
[01:55] <cpet> Yago: so a virus cant infect the machine not even the windows partition
[01:55] <jagginess> Yago, wubi is not a vm.
[01:55] <jagginess> (virtual machine)
[01:55] <saliak> escott: i think i must be doing something wrong on that end.  editing /etc/groups and adding fetch mail to the asterisk line adds it to that group, right?  runs as uid 113
[01:55] <cpet> its a full blown install but on a windows partition
[01:56] <jagginess> not exatcly.. but close enough i guess.. it's installed in 1 big 4+ gig loopback file on a windows filesystem
[01:56] <DisableMe> cpet: i tried and it all led me to here
[01:56] <escott> saliak, that should be enough yes. are the folder permissions correct for the group. do you need to set the guid (group version of suid) on the directory
[01:57] <Strav`> DisableMe: sux you encounter problems that soon. All your devices (virtual and physical) are available under the /dev/ directory. Your hard-drives will most likely be listed as /dev/sda/, /dev/sdb/ and your partitions will be on something like /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2/, etc. To see your windows stuff, you can mount your windows partition to a specific mount point in the file system such as: "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" (where sda1 is your
[01:57] <Strav`> first partition on drive sda) and then "ls /mnt/" to see if it's your windows stuff, if it's not, you unmount what's on /mnt "sudo umount /mnt" then try again with /dev/sda2 , etc. Once you've found out where your windows lies, I'd suggest you boot from your ubuntu install cd or usb key and then, run a terminal and try: sudo os-prober -v /dev/the_location_of_your_windows_partition this will most likely tell you if os-prober really have
[01:57] <Strav`> a problem seeing your windows install.
[01:57] <nut> how do u set permissions to open up all ur folders??
[01:57] <saliak> escott: ahh, looks like the group permissions are not w
[01:57] <nut> ‎had that prob for a bit
[01:57] <saliak> escott: i wonder why that's the case.. weird.
[01:57] <jagginess> Strav`, try "fdisk -l<enter>".. make life easier
[01:58] <nut> yeah it does
[01:59] <danqing> ok
[01:59] <PC-X69> have people?
[02:00] <nut> r we supposr to login with r ubunto website info??
[02:00] <Strav`> jagginess: agreed!
[02:00] <nut> will travel??
[02:00] <Strav`> jagginess: although, it doesn't exactly tell you which one is your main windows partition
[02:01] <CyMerc> chris
[02:01] <CyMerc> i did that
[02:01] <Strav`> DisableMe: as jagginess suggested, you really should use sudo fdisk -l ... ;)
[02:01] <Orukusaki> Any mechanic channels
[02:02] <CyMerc> not sure Oru
[02:03] <escott> !alis | Orukusaki
[02:04] <DisableMe> i did, i checked partitions and got this message...GPT detected on /dev/sda! which doesnt exist, i cant find it. and its listing only one partition which happens to be the size of my entire hard drive
[02:04] <Strav`> Still: anyone here experiencing troubles with their intel 5100 AGN wifi card on 12.04?
[02:04] <nut> it says grub-restore command not found
[02:04] <escott> DisableMe, use parted
[02:05] <escott> Strav`, jagginess stop suggesting that people use fdisk
[02:05] <Waps> Hi everyone, I'm tring to install 12.04 to /dev/sda but the installer doesn't let me partition it! any clue?
[02:05] <Strav`> escott: what's wrong with fdisk?
[02:05] <DisableMe> escott: what do you mean parted?
[02:05] <escott> DisableMe, "sudo parted -l" because fdisk can't read gpt
[02:06] <saliak> escott: hrm. set g+w and it still doesn't work.  hrm.  i know it runs as fetchmail cause i've exported a whoami. is there a "am i part of group XXXX" command?
[02:06] <Strav`> DisableMe: if you want a graphical map of your drive, sudo apt-get install gparted, then sudo gparted (your windows partition should be the one listed as ntfs ... if you only have one)
[02:07] <escott> Strav`, parted will give much the same output as fdisk, but it can read the gpt structures
[02:07] <Strav`> escott: ok
[02:07] <nut> yeah xubuntu for some reason when u get it doesnt have gparted
[02:08] <DisableMe> the rest of my system besides the dedicated linux partition says unallocated?
[02:08] <PC-X69> l
[02:08] <nut> u need gparted
[02:08] <cheako> DisableMe: Sounds like you are looking at the GPT protective partition.
[02:08] <danqing> l
[02:09] <DisableMe> cheako: meaning?
[02:09] <cheako> DisableMe: GPT does that to protect it's self from fdisk.
[02:09] <nut> u cant see a linux hd in windows and linux is the opposite lol
[02:09] <Strav`> cheako: I guess this could very well prevent grub from detecting the windows os that's on it?
[02:09] <KRomo> i think there is a windows app
[02:10] <KRomo> that reads ext4 hd
[02:10] <nut> really ??
[02:10] <DisableMe> im just really worried that windows is lost, i had 432GB of information
[02:10] <KRomo> yeah, it lets you read the file system
[02:10] <Nowayz> is there any way to control pulseaudio's choppyness
[02:11] <KRomo> Ext2Read is an explorer like utility to explore ext2/ext3/ext4 files.
[02:11] <nut> u can get something to recover ur files DisableMe
[02:11] <cheako> DisableMe: If you partitions truly are GPT then you likely won't be able to boot Windows...  Though I forget the exact constraints.  You'll have to configure the protective partition to allow Windows access to it's partition.
[02:11] <escott> Strav`, DisableMe if you are having problems with gpt and booting and have windows then you have efi. so you need to install grub-efi
[02:12] <DisableMe> mmmmm. should i go with cheako or escott
[02:12] <escott> DisableMe, i wasnt following the whole thread. is windows working?
[02:12] <nut> Cheako cant u mess with something in the grubcfg to make it find the windows hd
[02:13] <cheako> DisableMe: Do your own googling.
[02:13] <Nowayz> escott: is there a plugin for pulseaudio that prevents the massive choppyness
[02:13] <Strav`> DisableMe: I'd suggest you try what escott is telling you. This is the first time I encounter a windows efi partition.
[02:13] <KRomo> is ext4 the best format?
[02:13] <DisableMe> windows was working. and cheako i already mentioned i've tried and 9 times out of ten i get led to this irc
[02:13] <cheako> nut: From what I know the problem is that Windows can't work with GPT...  http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/gg463525.aspx
[02:13] <Keshi> What does terminal->"cat < /dev/urandom" do?
[02:14] <escott> DisableMe, was working. and then what did you do?
[02:14] <PC-X69> k
[02:14] <danqing> k
[02:14] <OerHeks> Keshi, /dev/urandom is a random number generator
[02:14] <DisableMe> i installed ubuntu
[02:14] <cheako> 	Windows XP x64 Edition can use GPT disks for data only.
[02:15] <escott> DisableMe, so i would predict you have a UEFI system -- you probably bought it in the last year correct? -- in which case you need to install grub-efi
[02:15] <Strav`> Nowayz: you experience choppyness when exactly? (applications can set a pre-read buffer size in pulseaudio to prevent choppy stuff when streaming)
[02:15] <nut> cheako he can uninstall linux  but u have to have the live cd or a usb and use sudo lilo -M /dev/sda/ mbr
[02:16] <DisableMe> is grub efi a program ir a sudo thing
[02:16] <nut> never used or heard of efi thing
[02:16] <Keshi> OerHeks: Yup, I was wondering more though what the seed is, if the they are guaranteed to be one size or another (i.e. 32-bit unsigned int???) and all that?
[02:16] <escott> !info grub-efi | DisableMe
[02:16] <PC-X69>  who
[02:16] <PC-X69> 中文
[02:16] <PC-X69> 中文
[02:16] <Keshi> OerHeks: Do these things vary between platforms?
[02:16] <cheako> nut: That's the worst idea, if windows isn't working then doing an uninstall will just make things worse.
[02:16] <Strav`> DisableMe: in other words, it's a another version of grub suited for uefi.
[02:16] <escott> DisableMe, so apt-get install grub-efi and then (im assuming at this point) grub-efi --install (maybe?
[02:17] <Keshi> PC-X69: #ubuntu-cn
[02:17] <nut> of linux and have a live cd or usb man ive done it and made windows work again
[02:17] <OerHeks> Keshi, there is a difference between /dev/random  and /dev/urandom, urandom is more secure random
[02:17] <cheako> DisableMe: http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/hybrid.html  <--- this is the usual solution.
[02:17] <escott> OerHeks, backwards
[02:18] <Keshi> OerHeks: That is interesting, I presumed one was unassigned and the other was signed.  How is /dev/urandom more secure?
[02:18] <cheako> DisableMe: This assumes you DO have GPT, the gdisk tool works just like fdisk and will say.
[02:18] <nut> what windows r u using Disable me??
[02:18] <jagginess> DisableMe, if you use gpt, then use gparted or parted
[02:19] <jagginess> (gparted is ubuntu's default 'Partition Editor' in menu)
[02:19] <OerHeks> Keshi somehowe /dev/random can be predicted.
[02:19] <jagginess> nut, Win8Preview.
[02:19] <nut> boot it up using the live cd and delete the linux partition and then use the command and it will set the windows bootloaderback to original
[02:20] <nut> a wast of time lol
[02:20] <danqing> dsf
[02:20] <cheako> jagginess: Use them for what?  I think the only tool to work with GPT, for tasks other then resizing/moving, is gdisk.
[02:20] <Keshi> Fair enough so using it for IDK… TCP serial numbers leads to people more easily being able to guess correctly and that kind of thing.
[02:20] <escott> Keshi, OerHeks, random is more secure than urandom. urandom is non-blocking. so you can run out of entropy and urandom keeps generating numbers
[02:20] <jagginess> cheako, dunno about gdisk.. but i know gparted comes with the ubuntu install
[02:21] <nut> jagginess no it doesnt
[02:21] <DisableMe> boot from my windows installation, delete linux partition and then reboot?
[02:21] <cheako> jagginess: Still the question is, what exactly can one do with this tool?  It's useless outside of resizing things.
[02:21] <deadmund> gdisk == gparted ?
[02:21] <nut> no disable u have a live cd of ubuntu??
[02:22] <jagginess> DisableMe, how about deleting your um illegal Win8Preview and use linux on the whole drive
[02:22] <escott> deadmund, no.
[02:22] <cheako> deadmund: no.
[02:22] <deadmund> apparently not :P
[02:22] <cheako> lol
[02:22] <escott> deadmund, gdisk is designed to handle gpt and fdisk. parted tries to "do the right thing" gdisk lets you do crazy things like convert gpt<-> mbr and create hybrids
[02:22] <nut> disableif u do that ur linux grub loader will still be there and u wont be able to get back on it with out linux
[02:23] <c4pt-otc> how can i encrypt a LVM without formatting ?
[02:23] <Strav`> escott: shouldn't ubuntu be aware that his system is using uefi and automatically install grub-efi instead of the default grub?
[02:23] <Strav`>  
[02:23] <danqing> do you speak chinese??
[02:24] <cheako> There are a number of questions DisableMe could answer.  Like what version of windows and if the drive truly is GPT.
[02:24] <Strav`> c4pt-otc: truecrypt?
[02:24] <DisableMe> damn, and btw windows 8 consumer preview is not illegal, its free from microsoft's website
[02:24] <escott> Strav`, i think its all a bit of a mess at the moment. uefi is going to be a big big pain
[02:24] <sambagirl> i've been trying to install some packages i need via the ubuntu software center however I have been getting this Requires installation of untrusted packages.  The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[02:25] <namoamitabuddha> !cn
[02:25] <namoamitabuddha> !jp
[02:25] <DisableMe> Alright then. Which way can i figure out if i do have an EFI?
[02:25] <danqing> !cn
[02:25] <escott> cheako, the drive is GPT. thats known. what is not for certain is if it is uefi, but since windows booted that can be presumed
[02:25] <cpet> sambagirl: choose yes and continue
[02:25] <cheako> DisableMe: I think I'll keep the copy I downloaded form a Windows Cloud computer of 2k8 server I'm using.
[02:25] <c4pt-otc> Strav`, isnt there a way to use luks without formatting ?
[02:26] <sambagirl> cpet I dont have an option for yes, just a details dropdown and there isnt anything there but the application name
[02:26] <nut> im using vista xp and 7
[02:26] <cheako> c4pt-otc: You can copy yor data onto luks.
[02:26] <cheako> c4pt-otc: dd unmounted partition.
[02:26] <cpet> sambagirl: are you using the gui or cli?
[02:27] <sambagirl> the gui
[02:27] <DisableMe> all of this trouble just to try one program
[02:27] <nut> how can u chat just between 2 ppl?
[02:27] <sambagirl> cpet the gui
[02:27] <quixotedon> nut: type "/msg nickname message"
[02:27] <cpet> and that doesn't show some sort of a dialouge box with Ok ?
[02:27] <nut> in where??
[02:27] <cheako> escott: Don't know anything about uefi, how does one know?  Wouldn't /proc|/sys say?
[02:27] <quixotedon> nut: on the chat field
[02:28] <sambagirl> cpet does that mean commodore pet computer btw? yes it shows a dialog box and ok. oh am i supposed to highlight the thing and then select ok?
[02:28] <quixotedon> nut: or simply double click the nickname you want to chat with and type your message
[02:28] <escott> cheako, if its a uefi boot (but many uefi systems will do a bios emulation boot) there is a file /sys/firmware/efi or something like that
[02:28] <veebull> hello
[02:28] <r00k19> help please.  i just installed ubuntu and typed a long research paper.  when it shut down it asked me if i wanted to save.  i clicked yes.  now its frozen at the top and i might have lost all my work
[02:28] <jagginess> r00k19, openoffice?
[02:29] <cpet> sambagirl: yeap
[02:29] <dennis> Any grub gurus online?
[02:29] <veebull> I've got a samba share on my ubuntu 12.04 desktop that is for some reason only showing up under 'workgroup' even though I changed the relevant line in smb.conf to something else.
[02:29] <r00k19> i can still see the .doc at the top but when i click it nothing happens
[02:29] <Strav`> escott: I remember reading this http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html, from a fedora dev and indeed, it will cause pain.
[02:29] <veebull> any ideas?
[02:29] <r00k19> yes open office
[02:29] <sambagirl> cpet is that yeap for both?
[02:29] <dennis> I've installed precise on a freshly partitioned SSD, and it won't boot.
[02:29] <dennis> BIOS screen, hard disk activity light, then locked machine
[02:29] <jagginess> r00k19, i think there's an autosave in the options of every ten minutes..
[02:30] <dennis> But the disk reads and writes fine when connected as a USB drive with SATA enclosure.
[02:30] <cpet> sambagirl: yes some repos dont have any gpg keys but they are safe to use
[02:30] <sambagirl> cpet it just doesnt do anything at all
[02:30] <r00k19> is there an autosave for word every 10 minutes?
[02:30] <quixotedon> r00k19: you mean the libreoffice?
[02:30] <Strav`> escott: btw, with the recent new about fedore buying signing keys for uefi, you have any idea of ubuntu's position on this?
[02:31] <jagginess> r00k19, ooffice-write, ya.. for whole suite i believe there is (i remember for ooffice-write there is-- i believe the default is 10 minutes
[02:31] <sambagirl> cpet i cant even download abiword!
[02:31] <quixotedon> r00k19: yes, i think, even it has an autorecovery in it.. :)
[02:31] <escott> Strav`, havent heard anything. ill be surprised if the fedora plan even works. unless the europeans come down hard on MSFT i dont see why they would agree to it
[02:31] <jagginess> r00k19, you'll have to kill the process and restart it, oowrite will look for ~abc.tmp named files and give you a prompt if you want to re-open the last backups
[02:31] <c4pt-otc> cheako, Strav` i cant really move stuff around I dont have free space to do it (i need about 8tb of free space to move stuff around to encrypt)
[02:32] <c4pt-otc> cheako, Strav` so i guess there is no way to flip on disk encryption without moving stuff around and copying stuff
[02:32] <r00k19> how do i kill it?  ctrol alt delete?
[02:32] <cpet> sambagirl: any errors ?
[02:32] <jagginess> r00k19, the task manager may be started with ctl-shift-esc
[02:32] <jagginess> r00k19, or there's probably a task manager app somewhere in the Accessories menu
[02:32] <r00k19> how do i kill it?  ctrol alt delete?
[02:33] <r00k19> sorry typo
[02:33] <dennis> Any grub gurus around tonight?
[02:33] <nut> thats what im talking bout
[02:34] <r00k19> im not finding no task manager
[02:34] <bwayne> dennis, what's happening?
[02:34] <cheako> c4pt-otc: Hmm.  Well you could repartition the space into many small chunks and iterate over them.
[02:34] <dennis> Installed precise on an SSD, and it won't boot up.
[02:34] <dennis> BIOS screen, hard disk activity light, then locked machine
[02:34] <dennis> But the disk reads and writes fine when connected as a USB drive with SATA enclosure.
[02:34] <dennis> I assume grub is fcked up.
[02:34] <dennis> But don't know where to go from here.
[02:35] <sambagirl> cpet just a sec,  i am looking on the website to see how to do it from the shell. they have steps there.
[02:35] <bwayne> dennis, have you tried supergrubdisc to attempt to fix it?
[02:35] <cheako> It's prown to error.  Another GOOD solution is to make many small paritions each holding some of your data.  I use 25G because that's what fits on a blu-ray disk.
[02:35] <usr13> dennis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub  #FYI
[02:35] <sambagirl> cpet i meant install abiword not downlaod it :D
[02:35] <dennis> Nope, I assume google that and boot from CD with the SSD in the machine?
[02:35] <c4pt-otc> cheako, thanx but i cant really do it right now I was just wondering if there was a simple way to encrypt my / and /home (without having to move alot of stuff) I guess I will just wait when I have the free time and space to do it
[02:36] <bwayne> dennis, give it a shot.
[02:36] <dennis> thanks for the links bwayne and usr13.
[02:36] <dennis> Will try those and hopefully that'll be the magic fix.
[02:36] <r00k19> ctrol alt escape does nothing
[02:36] <r00k19> and i cant find the task manager  under apps
[02:36] <cpet> sambagirl: i need errors or something
[02:37] <cheako> c4pt-otc: Defiantly get away from having an 8tb home partition.
[02:37] <jagginess> cpet, YOU WRONG!
[02:37] <jagginess> r00k19, ctl-shift-esc
[02:37] <cpet> jagginess: ?
[02:38] <r00k19> ctrl shiftescape does nothing
[02:39] <usr13> r00k19: What are you trying to do?
[02:40] <r00k19> im tryi8ng to recover a document
[02:40] <r00k19> it froze when it saved
[02:40] <sambagirl> cpet i dont have any errors. i tried the steps in the shell on this place http://abisource.com/wiki/Install_on_Ubuntu  however i noticed in the bottom that it says that it looks like it has stopped being supported by ubuntu or for ubuntu?
[02:40] <r00k19> i have to kill the process and but i cant access task manager
[02:40] <usr13> r00k19: saving it to  ____________ ?
[02:40] <r00k19> when it shut down
[02:40] <r00k19> it asked if i wanted to save
[02:40] <usr13> r00k19: What application was saving the document for you?
[02:40] <r00k19> it didnt "save as"
[02:40] <r00k19> it just "Saved"
[02:40] <r00k19> idk where
[02:40] <r00k19> documents maybe
[02:41] <FloodBot1> r00k19: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:41] <cpet> sambagirl: open up a terminal and type sudo apt-get install abiword
[02:41] <cpet> sambagirl: see if it gives you an error
[02:41] <usr13> r00k19: It doesn't just Save if you do "save as", it requires you to give a file name and directory to save to.
[02:42] <usr13> r00k19: What application are you using?
[02:42] <r00k19> open off
[02:42] <sambagirl> cpet haha that's funny
[02:43] <r00k19> word
[02:43] <usr13> r00k19: I think you need to look for the window that is waiting for you to supply file-name.
[02:43] <r00k19> ok
[02:44] <cpet> sambagirl: ok
[02:44] <sambagirl> cpet it is working now
[02:44] <usr13> r00k19: ... or confirm existing file-name.
[02:44] <sambagirl> cpet thanks a bunch
[02:44] <r00k19> the file icon is still there but when i click it all i see is "research paper" and the document doesnt appear
[02:45] <sambagirl> cpet yep it is building
[02:46] <r00k19> can i just access the auto save?
[02:46] <sambagirl> it works cpet thank you very much!
[02:46] <r00k19> or how do i find the window that is waiting for me to supply the file name?
[02:47] <usr13> r00k19: You don't access the auto-save, it is a function that works in the background.
[02:47] <jagginess> r00k19, it'd be safer if you re-log in X since you dont know how to kill the window
[02:47] <usr13> r00k19: alt-tab
[02:47] <jagginess> r00k19, then re-run oowrite and it'll prompt for recovery of the last 10 minutes
[02:47] <r00k19> how do i relog in x
[02:48] <jagginess> r00k19, your gui desktop is also called X (X literally, because of the Xserver)
[02:48] <r00k19> ok alt tab worked.  running processes?
[02:48] <jagginess> r00k19, so log out of the desktop and relogin..
[02:48] <sambagirl> cpet it must be not working cause i did a paste and it just crashed but  i will just try openoffice and atlantis
[02:49] <r00k19> when i hit alt tab should i delete that icon
[02:49] <r00k19> the word icon appears when i hit alt tab
[02:49] <r00k19> how do i get oowrite to run?
[02:49] <cpet> sambagirl: sounds more of a fucked install to me
[02:50] <cpet> er cross that messed up*
[02:50] <jagginess> r00k19, thought you said you were using openoffice-write
[02:50] <usr13> r00k19: hit Tab key while holding Alt key to see other windows.
[02:50] <usr13> jagginess: You mean soffice -write  ?
[02:50] <usr13> jagginess: You mean soffice -writer  ?
[02:50] <usr13> (typo)
[02:53] <Kornkage> how do i run file explorer with admin/root priviliedges ? i want to copy some special files
[02:54] <Kornkage> nautilus
[02:54] <hilo> hello can someone help me get connected to wifi on an ubuntu server install?
[02:55] <Kornkage> nvm
[02:55] <Kornkage> i think i got it
[03:01] <King_pz> you dick
[03:01] <King_pz> NEXUS
[03:01] <King_pz> YOU FUCKING DICK
[03:01] <King_pz> GOD DAMNIT
[03:01] <FloodBot1> King_pz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:01] <xGrub11> what the topics?
[03:01] <ChogyDan> I can't access my usb drive, it says the device is busy.  How can I see what is going on?
[03:02] <King_pz> ehy
[03:02] <r00k19> should i delete that window from alt tab?
[03:03] <r00k19> can i delete the word icon from alt tab and still recover the document?
[03:03] <r00k19> its open office
[03:04] <Dr_Willis_> i dont know how you would deltet  the icon from the alt-tab list
[03:05] <magnetic> hi does anyone know about lubuntu?
[03:05] <Dr_Willis_> magnetic:  its ubuntu with lxde...
[03:05] <bazhang> !lubuntu | magnetic
[03:05] <bazhang> magnetic, read the wiki
[03:05] <xGrub11> i wanna ask something
[03:05] <xGrub11> some body help me
[03:05] <Dr_Willis_> most of the office apps have rfecovery/auto save features.
[03:05] <Dr_Willis_> xGrub11:  ask the question and see
[03:05] <Sontogo> Hi, I'm a total linux newbie. I recently installed Ubuntu on a new PC, and I'm having a problem where every time I shut down, it automatically reboots a few seconds after the computer has shut down
[03:06] <Dr_Willis_> Sontogo:  seen tht issue on a fes pcs over the years.  i had to be fasgt with the power button. ;(
[03:06] <xGrub11> is Xubuntu one of independence distro linux or still one family with Ubuntu?
[03:06] <xGrub11> thanks before
[03:06] <Dr_Willis_> Sontogo:   eventually a kernel update fixed the issue for me
[03:06] <magnetic> I am having trouble logging in as root
[03:06] <bazhang> magnetic, dont do that
[03:07] <Dr_Willis_> xubuntu is an official variant.
[03:07] <magnetic> it won't let me do things and it's annoying
[03:07] <bazhang> xGrub11, fully supported version of ubuntu
[03:07] <Dr_Willis_> lubuntu i think is official and supported now also
[03:07] <bazhang> magnetic, use sudo
[03:07] <magnetic> but i want to edit some files
[03:07] <Dr_Willis_> or did that get delayed again
[03:07] <magnetic> i've tried using sudo
[03:07] <Dr_Willis_> magnetic:  use sudo as needed. do it properly
[03:07] <Sontogo> Dr_Willis_ I see, is there any thing you could suggest for me? I have the latest version of the kernel
[03:07] <bazhang> magnetic, tell us what exactly  you need to do, all one ONE line
[03:07] <Dr_Willis_> clairyf exactly what you want to do
[03:08] <Dr_Willis_> Sontogo:  you could check the  bug reports  and the forums for your exact make/model pc/laptop - it may be a known issue and there may be some work arounds
[03:08] <Sontogo> Dr_Willis_ Thanks
[03:08] <magnetic> ok. well there's a few things but at the moment what i'm trying to do is get into myphp and it won't let me
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> magnetic:  sudo -s    gets you a root shell if needed
[03:10] <magnetic> oh phew. how comes it doesn't work in users and groups?
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> clarify what you mean.
[03:10] <xGrub11> ok, thanks
[03:11] <erick> hello theree
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> jello erick
[03:11] <Blackshirt> Hello
[03:11] <erick> i need a little help today,not sure if anyone could
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> state the issue and see who can help
[03:12] <Blackshirt> Erick. Exactly
[03:12] <erick> youtube seems to stutter for me recently.
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> try the html5  option for youtube? it works for most videos
[03:12] <erick> how would i do that?
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> youtube.com/html5
[03:13] <together> hi can someone help me just installed over my net blackbuntu ta too slow would not have to be faster than in windows
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> together:  the distro 'blackbuntu' has it own support channels/rooms  and forums.
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> and i dont know where those are. ;)
[03:15] <magnetic> also why doesn't su work?
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> magnetic:  su is to change to a user.. and sincxe root login is disabled.. you cant su to root..
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> magnetic:  usd sudo -s to get to root if needed.
[03:15] <together> ok
[03:15] <magnetic> ah thats makes sencse! thanks
[03:16] <magnetic> see you later thanks again!
[03:16] <erick> i still have some stutter friends
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> erick:  not all videos use html5 even if its selecgted. and really theres not a lot we can do about adobe flash.  you could try the chromium and google chrome browsers
[03:17] <erick> hm, okay,well im already in chromium but thank you anyways!
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> given the # of people i see a week in here tht cant get flash working at all.. they would be happy with stuttering..
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> i always use download tools to download flash  videos. and then watch them
[03:17] <ChogyDan> erick: are you sure you are using official flash?  I have NEVER had an issue
[03:18] <erick> yes
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> flash  here gets thecolors wrong. ;)
[03:19] <keanne> i am configuring an ubuntu based kiosk. the only way to login after boot is ssh. works well, but cannot clone the pc for mass deployment. problem is network due to 70-persistent-net.rules. is there a way to disable this? i need the nic to be detected and assigned eth0 on all clones.
[03:19] <ChogyDan> erick: what does chrome://plugins/ say the version is?
[03:20] <erick> it doesnt seem to be my Internet,im at 2mb/s i have a feeling it may be my video card. but since it seems to only do it from time to time im having doubts
[03:20] <triunity> Hey, i keep getting "An application wants default password",  every 1/2 hour or so... Im not sure why.  I don't use wifi (i know that used to be an issue), and if I hit details, it doesn't specifiy which application wants password... could anyone help?
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> erick:  all i can say is flash can be flakey.  thats why im in the habbit of using a flash downloader tool all the time and just watching the converted videos
[03:21] <erick> flash is 11.2
[03:21] <hilo> Can someone help me get connected to wifi with ubuntu server? I am trying to use wpa_suplicant and it gives the error "Failed to initiate AP scan."
[03:21] <bazhang> !wifi | hilo
[03:22] <triunity> To restate question, how can I tell what application wants my default password?
[03:23] <ChogyDan> triunity: try not giving the pass, and see if any complain
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> triunity:  you may want to screenshot the exasct dialog box. i cant think of anything that would ask that regullary. except if wifi gos down/up.
[03:23] <triunity> No complaints, it just pops back up
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> the 'wording' of that dialog box seems weird
[03:23] <triunity> Ok, I will screen shot it next time it shows up
[03:23] <triunity> I paraphrased, due to the fact I suck at remembering
[03:24] <erick> i think im going to go with Dr.Willlis' idea . flash captures are exceptionally fast. thanks again friends.
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> unless its the gnome keyring thing wanting you to set a password
[03:24] <triunity> Auth.log shows some activing about the keyring....
[03:24] <triunity> Jun  3 20:16:11 desktop gnome-keyring-daemon[2395]: couldn't set environment variable in session: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> and another nail in the coffin for flash.. ;)
[03:25] <triunity> Jun  3 20:16:12 desktop gnome-keyring-daemon[2395]: unsupported key algorithm in certificate: 1.2.840.10045.2.1
[03:25] <triunity> Jun  3 20:16:16  gnome-keyring-daemon[2395]: last message repeated 9 times
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> triunity:  perhaps check the forums or askubuntu.com for info with that error message.  may show some info
[03:26] <triunity> ;) thanks, I will use ubuntuforums... I didn't know if this was a common issue... :D Thanks again!
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> i dident think the gnome keyring thing was even used in 12.04 any more
[03:26] <Strav`> Hi! I'm having a problem with my intel 5100 AGN card, very similar to the following bug: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2012/03/msg00377.html, my wifi inteface seems to randomly go into deep sleep and only a reboot is able to get it back (tried: reloading the iwlwifi module, tried /etc/init.d/networking restart, etc.) The latest comment about this bugs seems to date from last march, is anyone aware if there's been any progress
[03:26] <Strav`> since then?
[03:26] <Keshi> Dr_Willis: Some packages might still depend on it.
[03:26] <triunity> *shrug* this is xubuntu 12.04 if that changes anything...
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> triunity:  could be some apps need the gnome-keyring and its not insgttgalled
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> i never use xubuntu.
[03:28] <triunity> omega@desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install gnome-keyring
[03:28] <triunity> [sudo] password for omega:
[03:28] <triunity> Reading package lists... Done
[03:28] <triunity> Building dependency tree
[03:28] <triunity> Reading state information... Done
[03:28] <triunity> gnome-keyring is already the newest version.
[03:28] <FloodBot1> triunity: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:29] <triunity> Whooops, sorry bout that, I was thinking it would paste as one large text... ;) forgive me?
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> theres some file to reset the gnome-keyring  you could delete. and that will make it ask for thekeyrong  password. i always just hit enter - so it uses 'unsafe' storage and never asks again
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> just the last line was all was needd for the paste anyway. ;)
[03:30] <triunity> Yea, I don't mind using unsafe storage, IF i know what is using the storage.  When wifi was the issue, i was ok, but since this system doesn't use wifi, I am a little nervious
[03:30] <siva4080> I want to install "Sun Java 6" for Android development on my Ubuntu Laptop. When I search for Sun Java 6 in ubuntu software center , I did not find anything.. could someone tell me how to install Sun Java 6 for my ubuntu?
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> other apps use the  keyring to store their passwords in.
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> !java | siva4080
[03:31] <triunity> Interesting.  Is there anyway to detect which application is using the keyring?
[03:32] <OerHeks> triunity, check the keyring for stored passwords, easy to find out
[03:34] <triunity> OerHeks, how do I spawn the gui on gnome-keyring?  When I type it in terminal, its just a cli...
[03:34] <Strav`> forgive the rant but about the keyring, if I recall correctly, before gnome 3 you had a nice gui for that but now it's gone, gnome's gui is now officially dumbland.
[03:36] <triunity> No manual entry for gnome-keyring...
[03:37] <triunity> Application Finder, doesn't seem to know about gnome-keyring... there is no manual page... i am running out of ideas on how to access it
[03:37] <tr3nton> is it not seahorse? or is that for something different?
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> triunity:  i think the binary name for the gui is 'seahorse'
[03:38] <Keshi> Strav`: It is unforgivable… the GUI might improve for the new release.  It might just be a regression.
[03:38] <OerHeks> triunity, type "seahorse" in dash
[03:38] <Strav`> tr3nton: looks like it.
[03:38] <nut> ne 1 know some good software to be able to use windows servers??
[03:38] <triunity> Seahorse wasn't installed, installing now
[03:38] <bazhang> nut, ##windows
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> 'use windows servers' is vague also...
[03:39] <Strav`> my complain mainly was that before, you could easily access the keyring in the system settings. Not anymore, those confused users will get confused about it.
[03:39] <Keshi> nut: Use them, like access shares etc???  Samba works for that.
[03:40] <triunity> Thanks everyone for the help!  I see the issue now.
[03:40] <triunity> Firefox was using the keyring to store site passwords...
[03:40] <triunity> Thus as i browsed the web, it needed to access relevent passwords to websties...
[03:42] <nut> i have samb but dont know how to navigate through it to find my servers
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> nut:  gnome file  manager has a connect to server feature. or enter a address like smb://ip.or.server.name/sharename
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> jj
[03:44] <nut> ok but i have thunar
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> then check its docs.. it most likely has a similer feature
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> most file managers do these days
[03:45] <nut> where is it located been trying to find where the main fileswere at
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> or you can just mount the share whever you want and access it as if it was a local directory
[03:45] <nut> ok
[03:47] <Strav`> nut: and to avoid all sorts of problems linked to a loss of connection for instance, use autofs
[03:47] <nut> in terminal?
[03:48] <triunity> nut, Thunar doesn't have a "Connect to Server" feature...
[03:48] <mIKEjONES> hello, can someone help me with resizing windows in ubuntu?
[03:48] <nut> dang
[03:49] <mIKEjONES> it's virtually impossible to resize windows in ubuntu with the exception of grabbing the title bar
[03:49] <Strav`> nut: it depends on what you want, but the most stable way I found to get a cifs share to be automatically mounted when I boot my system is to use autofs (if you simply add the mount line to your fstab, if your connection drops for some reason while trying to read the share, your file manager will most likely hang very badly)
[03:49] <Thorondor> Hi, I got an error with libjasper during 11.10 to 12.04 upgrade, then the system is almost unusable, any knowledge on this problem, I can't even open a terminal... ?
[03:49] <nut> that sux
[03:49] <delac> mIKEjONES: alt-"mouse middle button" anywhere on the window
[03:50] <nut>  then i will leave the servers to windows pc\
[03:50] <delac> mIKEjONES: press, not scroll
[03:50] <xGrub11> because of xubuntu is an official variant of ubuntu, does it means its an independences linux distro in some way?
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> its just has officially supported status. and most likely gets some funding from canocal.
[03:51] <Strav`> nut: yea, and add to this that autofs is not the most intuitive piece of work to configure (a nautilus or thunar plugin would be very very nice). Anyways, once it's setup correctly, it's usually rock solid.
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> theres a smb/samba fuse tool that used to work well at one time. it could scan and put all found shares/servers in a directory on the fly.
[03:52] <nut> thats my prob at the moment lol
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> then again smb://server.ip.numner/  may work in thunar or other file maangers also
[03:52] <nut> is it still compatible with xubuntu 11.10??
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> !info smbfuse
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> !info fusesmb
[03:53] <Strav`> let me say it again: autofs rules.
[03:53] <Strav`> :)
[03:53] <nut> sry im still mewwith the cammand stuff
[03:53] <nubs_> Hey can anyone help me with a sound/video problem?
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> time to learn the real powar
[03:53] <cpet> nubs_: ?
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> there may be other samba browser tools in the rpos i ve never used. :) not looked at them lately
[03:54] <nubs_> For some reason my audio doesn't work on this account, and when I go to play videos or music on a music player, there's no audio and it is all sped up.
[03:54] <nubs_> I can't watch youtube or anything.
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> nubs_:  othere accounts work?
[03:55] <nubs_> My guest account does.
[03:55] <cpet> guest account ?
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> try making a new user. see if it works for them
[03:55] <Strav`> let me try my luck again: is there anyone having problems with their wlan interface using an intel 5100 AGN wifi card on 12.04?
[03:55] <nubs_> And if that doesn't work, is there a way to get into the audio settings and see if something may have changed from the default?
[03:55] <nut> i feel ya i havnt looked in the software manager or anywhere elsefor it other than the samba lol
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> nubs_:  its possible that user for some  reason has sound muted. or you ran somthing as root. and it  goofed up a user setting. the make a new user 'test' would show if this is posibally the case
[03:56] <nubs_> Ok, I'll be back.
[03:56] <nubs_> Thank you.
[03:57] <nut> what is an easy way to have root privs all the time??
[03:58] <bazhang> nut no need for that
[03:58] <bluebk> hi does anyone know how to install JDK on ubuntu?
[03:59] <bluebk> im new to java
[03:59] <bazhang> !java | bluebk
[03:59] <JoseeAntonioR> bluebk: sudo apt-get install open-jdk
[03:59] <saliak> i have a shudders line that allows user fetch mail to sudo to asterisk with no password.  in the scrip that's evoked when new mail arrives (and is filtered by proemial), i do a sudo -u asterisk.  i test this at the console and it works (does the sudo commandw/out asking for a password).  however, when i run my script through the normal fetchmail daemon, and its call to proemial that calls my script wrapper, which does the sudo -u… call, it th
[03:59] <saliak> the error "sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified".  any ideas?
[04:00] <bazhang> JoseeAntonioR, thats not a package name
[04:00] <nut> yeah but im the only 1 on it so i need it to quit irratating me with a password when i wanna do something
[04:01] <bazhang> nut use sudo
[04:01] <JoseeAntonioR> bazhang: Hmm, afaik there's a package with a name like that which installs openjdk
[04:01] <nut> f that
[04:01] <bazhang> JoseeAntonioR, thats not the name.
[04:02] <JoseeAntonioR> bazhang: Sorry, then, my mistake
[04:02] <nut> i just want complete control
[04:02] <bazhang> nut why would you ever need to be root at all times.
[04:03]  * cpet hands root access to nut
[04:03] <bazhang> nut using sudo means you are in complete control.  we dont support root logins and the like
[04:03] <nubs_> Hey when I created a new account everything worked over there, then when I came back to this account everything worked as well.
[04:04] <nubs_> Why did that work?
[04:04] <nut> why not man it wont let me hardly do ne thing on here
[04:04] <bazhang> nut do what exactly
[04:04] <cpet> nut sudo su -
[04:05] <cpet> should be su'ed to root
[04:05] <bazhang> cpet, dont advise that here
[04:05] <nut> or sudo -i works too
[04:05] <nut> lol
[04:05] <bazhang> nut sudo -i if you need a root shell
[04:06] <nut> yeah i know and gksudo thunar for the file system
[04:06] <nut> but its a pain doing that all the freakin time
[04:06] <cornfeed> hello
[04:07] <JoseeAntonioR> nut: What do you want to do in your PC?
[04:07] <cpet> nut you are in complete control of your system it is fairly easy to enable normal root access
[04:07] <nubs_> But now I can't turn my volume up or down.
[04:07] <mrrothhcloud__> what is your Morning work flow / habits I just want a rough idea
[04:07] <cpet> JoseeAntonioR: he wants to use root without sudo aka root shell
[04:08] <keanne> yes, cpet is right. though its ubuntu, normal root access if possible if that is you want.
[04:08] <nut> yes thats what im talking about
[04:08] <bazhang> nut and its not supported here
[04:08] <nut> i cant get the permissions right  and working
[04:08] <cpet> nut before I cause issues here nut you can msg me
[04:09] <nut> ??? what u mean that aint no good man
[04:09] <cornfeed> i am having some troubles getting grub to do what I want. I have run an apt-get upgrade and now have a newer kernel in my /boot dir, but running upgrade-grub and grub-mkconfig doesnt seem to update /boot/grub/grub.cfg even though they both mention finding the new kernel. is there an "ubuntu" way to update the boot menu without manually editing it?
[04:09] <JoseeAntonioR> nut: That is a method that isn't supported in Ubuntu
[04:09] <bazhang> nut which is why you only need sudo, or possibly sudo -i
[04:09] <nut> i thought it was in all linxs ??
[04:09] <cpet> nut msg me
[04:09] <bazhang> nut I have told you already several times its not supported here
[04:09] <nut> i working at it c
[04:10] <nut> it all gravy then baz
[04:11] <nut> can i ask what is supported here??
[04:11] <JoseeAntonioR> nut: sudo
[04:12] <bazhang> nut as I have said many times now: sudo
[04:12] <nut> ok
[04:12] <cpet> nut: sudo passwd root
[04:12] <cpet> nut: done
[04:12] <nut> cpet i messaged u i think lol
[04:12] <cpet> nut: one you are done disable root again
[04:12] <cpet> sudo passwd -dl root
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> dont set a root password.  it shouldent be needed
[04:13] <bazhang> cpet, I asked you not to advise that here
[04:13] <cpet> Dr_Willis: he wants to have a working root shell he should be able to have a working root shell
[04:13] <nut> i know how to set it and get in it but thats not really what i was trying to do
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> sudo -s should give a working root shell
[04:13] <bazhang> cpet thus sudo -i
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> biggest danger to a ubuntu system  that ive seen.. is the end user.. ;)
[04:16] <cpet> Dr_Willis: depends on the end user
[04:17] <nut> dam straight
[04:17] <danqing> can you hear me ?
[04:17] <NoVoteLoss> my first linux experience was with ubuntu, i didnt like it. ive gone through a few other distros, learned my way around linux, and now im on 12.04, but not much isnt changed in my setup, i like ubuntu now.
[04:17] <danqing> test
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> danqing:  passed
[04:17] <cpet> danqing: test 123 receiving....
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> type louder
[04:18] <GeekAdmin> NoVoteLoss:  I like gnome on 12.04 not a fan of Unity/Compiz
[04:18] <danqing> ]ok
[04:18] <GeekAdmin> NoVoteLoss:  I dont like the menu system
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> unity works well in 12.04 and the HUD is a nifty feature
[04:18] <NoVoteLoss> geekadmin thats what i rock
[04:19] <NoVoteLoss> GeekAdmin also using cairo dock
[04:19] <NoVoteLoss> unity gets on my nerves and that was my biggest turnoff to ubuntu after 10.04
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> i do think they should include a classic-gnome-menu indicator applet by default.  just makes it easier at time
[04:20] <GeekAdmin> NoVoteLoss: nice!
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> hud and quicklists and lens are finally  getting  mature. ;)
[04:21] <mickel> how in the heck do  I cd to /windows/program files (x86)? I have got to /windows$ cd Program\ Files\   but then I get unexpected token
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> mickel:  you could single quote the whole path
[04:21] <JoseeAntonioR> !language |  mickel
[04:22] <Dr_Willis>  cd 'path with spaces in it'
[04:22] <bazhang> JoseeAntonioR, what language was that
[04:22] <cpet> JoseeAntonioR: hes is trying to cd to his windows dir in Linux
[04:22] <mickel> thanks
[04:22] <mickel> JoseeAntonioR: settle down
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> mickel:  tab completion should work. but that () may be con fuseing it
[04:23] <JoseeAntonioR> He used an expression he could have avoided. I'm trying to help, don't get mad for it.
[04:23] <mickel> Dr_Willis: yes it is
[04:23] <bazhang> JoseeAntonioR, heck?
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> the whold idea of putting () in a directory name.. is.. well weird
[04:23] <JoseeAntonioR> bazhang: Yes
[04:24] <mickel> Dr_Willis: I agree
[04:24] <xiaolong> hello
[04:24] <cpet> sup
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> and people say linux directory/os structure is weird. ;)
[04:25] <cpet> Dr_Willis: it is if each distro uses something different
[04:25] <nut> pain in the but
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> most follow the LSB these days
[04:25] <cpet> and it is impossible to use all 100 or so distros
[04:25]  * Dr_Willis bets theres over 9000 these days
[04:26] <cpet> i get my info from distrowatch but it wouldnt surprise me if theirs more
[04:26] <nut> i dont see why they make it so hard
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> distrowatch filters out a lot of them. and they have a waiting list for others to get added
[04:27] <cornfeed> how can i list all manuall installed software?
[04:27] <mickel> wine: /home/mike/.wine is not owned by you      ? who else would it be owned by
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> by 'manual' instgalled you mean?
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> mickel:  see ls -l output and dee.
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> see
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> if you ran wine with sudo.. it could be owned by root
[04:28] <cornfeed> Dr_Willis: have you even merged something that was pulled in as a dependancy and it says something like "switching to manually installed"
[04:28] <PC-X69> msg ChanServ REGISTER <danqing><2108865>
[04:29] <mickel> Dr_Willis: that s what I did but im not really following what you mean
[04:29] <cpet> dumb ass
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> mickel:  ls -l output shows who owns each file/dir
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> cornfeed:  ok. so you mean  manual in the 'manually selected, vs auto installed by apt' ;)
[04:30] <cornfeed> bingo
[04:30] <cornfeed> sorry my words fail me at times
[04:30] <PC-X69> REGISTER danqing
[04:30] <bazhang> PC-X69, time to change passwords
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> cornfeed:  a bit over my apt-fu skills.  ;)
[04:30] <cornfeed> yep me too
[04:30] <cpet> PC-X69: remember to add /msg
[04:31] <nut> me 3
[04:31] <PC-X69> thanks~~
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> or talk to the service bots in a query/server tab   window...
[04:31] <cornfeed> Dr_Willis: aptitude search '?installed ?not(?automatic)'
[04:31] <cornfeed> bingo
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> cornfeed:  yea. i never use aptitude..  ;)
[04:32] <cpet> doesn't ubuntu have a decent gui for installing packages ?
[04:32] <xiaolong> do you know QQ?
[04:32] <Slow_> having trouble using an external monitor in a new install of Ubuntu 12
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> synapticvc, and softwre center
[04:32] <cornfeed> cpet: working over sssh
[04:32] <cpet> oh
[04:32] <NoVoteLoss> Slow_ is it plugged into a laptop?
[04:32] <bazhang> xiaolong, you need a client for that? empathy should be able to handle it
[04:32] <nut> not really cpet
[04:32] <Slow_> anyone have any ideas? did a search and the monitor's driver should be pre-installed
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> Slow_:  and your monitor is? connectd how? chipset is?
[04:32] <Slow_> NoVoteLoss: yes.
[04:32] <cpet> nut: anything is better than aptitude
[04:33] <Slow_> acer monitor, hp laptop
[04:33] <NoVoteLoss> Slow_ what kind of problems you having
[04:33] <nut> i dont know what that is  lol
[04:33] <NoVoteLoss> i have the same setup
[04:33] <NoVoteLoss> well hp laptop acer monitor
[04:33] <cpet> nut: console based program to install packages
[04:33] <Slow_> the monitor is not detected
[04:33] <Slow_> but windows 7 is using it fine
[04:33] <Slow_> (i'm dual booting)
[04:34] <nut> i have an acer monitor and a westing house 42 in and it found it
[04:34] <cpet> Slow_: the monitor is not detected ?
[04:34] <Slow_> not in ubuntu, no
[04:34] <Slow_> but the laptop's monitor is working
[04:34] <cpet> so all you see is a black screen?
[04:34] <Slow_> yes.
[04:34] <cpet> heh
[04:34] <nut> it does that to me when i have a graphics card in the pc when i try to boot into linux
[04:35] <nut> try a different distro
[04:35] <Slow_> what's weird is that i've used previous versions of ubuntu just fine with it
[04:35] <cpet> try loading ubuntu in safe mode or something similar
[04:35] <Slow_> what would that do?
[04:38] <nut> thats like zorin, fedora would have a black screen when i boot
[04:38] <cpet> Slow_: possibly allow you to run ubuntu ?
[04:39] <Slow_> i'm running it just fine... as long as I use my laptop screen and not my attached monitor
[04:39] <Slow_> it doesn't detect the external monitor
[04:40] <cpet> oh well that is normal
[04:40] <nut> i have aspire laptop ut havnt5 hooked a monitor to it
[04:40] <cpet> you need to make x loas xinerama and setup the second monitor
[04:40] <Slow_> i have no idea what you just said
[04:40] <Slow_> is that a command?
[04:40] <nut> it work fine on the desktop
[04:40] <cpet> Slow_: no it's a module for x
[04:40] <nut> i feel ya slow\
[04:41] <cpet> lets see
[04:41] <cpet> !help
[04:41] <cpet> !search help
[04:41] <cpet> !search xinerama
[04:41] <bazhang> cpet, /msg ubottu
[04:41] <nut> its all jiberish
[04:42] <Slow_> hmmmm
[04:42] <cpet> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[04:42] <cpet> should get you going
[04:43] <nut> how do u set the permissions so i can get to programson the system??
[04:43] <Slow_> cool
[04:43] <Slow_> thanks
[04:43] <cpet> nut: ?
[04:43] <nut> yep
[04:43] <RagnaRok__> guys i need your help i was working on my laptop last night and i toggled the wireless hardware switch to off and when i turned it back on nm-applet menu still says wireless is disabled by hardware switch i tried reboot, reinstalling network manager.
[04:43] <nut> just an iratating thing lol
[04:44] <nut> ive had something similar to that was running xubuntu on a flash drive and it shut my wireless off when i went into windows it was no longer there
[04:44] <cpet> RagnaRok__: enable it on the nm-applet
[04:45] <cpet> if you right click on the wireless icon it should give you an option to disable or enable wireless
[04:45] <cpet> enable it
[04:45] <RagnaRok__> i can't it's greyed out
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> RagnaRok__:  i had weird laptop. i had to turn it ON in windows.. then reboot back to linux.. and never touch the switch again. ;)
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> bbl. got a job
[04:45] <cpet> RagnaRok__: most laptops use software for all that
[04:45] <cpet> RagnaRok__: so do what Dr_Willis mentioned
[04:46] <RagnaRok__> i guess i'll try that brb
[04:46] <nut> i had to do a main cd reinstall of windows to fix my prob
[04:46] <cpet> i don't use laptops so i never had that issue
[04:47] <nut> i have 3 desktops 2 laptops
[04:47] <mickel> Dr_Willis: so I need to change ownership of file? what did you mean about dee
[04:47] <cpet> mickel: chown slappy:slappy file
[04:47] <nut> i only use the laptop to surf the net and transfer stuff when i need to
[04:48] <mickel> Dr_Willis: will that wreak the permissions of the windows partition
[04:48] <cpet> mickel: you shouldnt need to mess with perms
[04:48] <nut> brb have to restart for a min
[04:51] <Adonis> Hi All!
[04:51] <mickel> cpet: -rwxrwx--- 1 root plugdev 10583000 May 26 13:25 Launcher.exe
[04:52] <Adonis> can anyone help me with ubuntu-server problem?
[04:53] <aeon-ltd> Adonis: ask, don't ask to ask. Also #ubuntu-server may be better
[04:53] <rbrooks> possibyl
[04:53] <cpet> Adonis: ok
[04:53] <Adonis> thanks
[04:53] <mickel> cpet: I cant use sudo to launch it and it needs write permission to the directory
[04:53] <Eidsten> Hello! I'm having some trouble with Gwibber. I can log in with my FB account, but nothing shows up in the feed. Anyone got any ideas? Thanks!
[04:54] <cpet> Eidsten: wrong place to ask?
[04:54] <mickel> cpet: and root is disabled on ubuntu
[04:54] <cpet> mickel: is it now
[04:54] <mickel> isnt it
[04:54] <cpet> it can be disabled
[04:55] <mickel> oh i always thought it was by default
[04:55] <bazhang> mickel, it is
[04:55] <mickel> thats why we use sudo
[04:55] <cpet> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:55] <bazhang> Eidsten, its fine to ask about gwibber here
[04:55] <mickel> ok so how the heck do I launch that file
[04:55] <mickel> oops
[04:55] <nut> hi yall
[04:56] <bazhang> mickel, with wine
[04:56] <mickel> !language | mickel
[04:56] <nut> still no gparted thats messed up
[04:56] <cpet> nut: install it
[04:56] <cpet> think ubuntu doesn't have gparted in it's repos
[04:56] <cpet> or does it ?
[04:56] <bazhang> cpet, yes it does
[04:57] <nut> i know its just bs that it should already be there espesially it i just updated the software lol
[04:58] <cpet> nut if it's not then you did not install it
[04:58] <mickel> bazhang: I tried sudo wine launcher.exe it tells me wine: /home/mike/.wine is not owned by you       and I need write permissions for that exe
[04:58] <nut> it is installing now but on the distro i have its not there
[04:58] <bazhang> mickel, you dont need sudo for wine
[04:58] <bazhang> nut what distro is that
[04:59] <cheako> Any software to do Phone Book Access Bluetooth Profile?
[04:59] <cpet> mickel: you should be able to run that exe without sudo
[04:59] <nut> i have noticed that atleast on this 1 u cannot put ne desktop icons on it unless ur in root
[04:59] <cpet> directly actually
[04:59] <bazhang> nut and what distro is that
[04:59] <cpet> double clicking of the exe should auto invoke wine
[04:59] <mickel> cpet: tried it doesnt work it tells me a modification is needed
[05:00] <cpet> tell it ok
[05:00] <nut> xubuntu 11.10
[05:00] <RagnaRok__> I tried booting into windows and switching wireless on and off but it still doesn't work
[05:00] <bazhang> nut gparted needs to be installed on all variants
[05:00] <mickel> cpet: are you toying with me?
[05:00] <nut> might not be a dvd live cd of it
[05:00] <cpet> mickel: possibly
[05:01] <mickel> lol
[05:01] <derek_zhu> whoami
[05:01] <derek_zhu> pwd
[05:01] <cpet> derek_zhu: cpet
[05:01] <nut> i know it sucks u have to get on the net to get it when u first install it
[05:01] <derek_zhu> am i in the cannel now?
[05:01] <derek_zhu> wow
[05:01] <cpet> derek_zhu: yes
[05:01] <bazhang> cpet, stop the nonsense
[05:01] <derek_zhu> hey, nice to meet you, guys
[05:02] <RagnaRok__> I tried booting into windos and switching wireless on and off but it still doesn't work
[05:02] <RagnaRok__> guys i need your help i was working on my laptop last night and i toggled the wireless hardware switch to off and when i turned it back on nm-applet menu still says wireless is disabled by hardware switch i can't enable it by right clicking as the enable wireless entry is greyed out i tried reboot, reinstalling network manager.
[05:02] <nut> is windows installed on it too ragnarok??
[05:03] <RagnaRok__> yes
[05:03] <cpet> RagnaRok__: try a cold boot IE: power off the machine then turn it on and boot directly into Linux see if it works then
[05:03] <nut> i had something similar to that awhile back is it still there when u boot into windows?>
[05:04] <cpet> RagnaRok__: also does lspci detect a wireless card ?
[05:04] <RagnaRok__> it seems to work in windows just not in linux, @cpet i tried that it still says wireless is disabled by hardware
[05:04] <nut> or pull the wireless card ouck in and boot it up again in linuxhe laptop boot it up all the way then shut it off put it b
[05:05] <cpet> nut you made no sense
[05:05] <cpet> nut :)
[05:05] <nut> freaking laptop sry mouse pad moves the cursor on me
[05:05] <windbuntu> RagnaRok__, does that computer happen to be a Hp dv series?
[05:06] <cpet> windbuntu: think it's a sony
[05:07] <windbuntu> i have one that has an odd lil switch that actually turns off my wireless, my hand sometimes switched it off when i dont mean too, really poop engineering by hp in my opinion.
[05:07] <windbuntu> poor*
[05:07] <nut> i would say turn it off pull the wireless card reboot into linux all the way then turn off put the card back in and then boot up again and see if it sees it then
[05:08] <nut> thats why i like the acer 2 buttons to turn it off and on lol
[05:08] <nut> ne good useful software to get??
[05:10] <windbuntu> when i install ubuntu, i just make sure the computer is hardwired to the internet during installation and then ubuntu offers me the correct wirelss driver and doing it that way i have no problems.
[05:10] <torcellite> I'm need a lil help, anyone free?
[05:11]  * reisio is a slave
[05:11] <nut> yeah but u someti8mes r never around the net to do that
[05:11] <windbuntu> true
[05:11] <windbuntu> ive tried it the other ways and its a real crap shoot
[05:11] <nut> thats my prob alot of times
[05:11] <Karmaon> viewing a 7.2mb picture = ubuntu crash
[05:12] <reisio> is it so hard to look up your hardware and find out what drivers are required beforehand? :p
[05:12] <torcellite> anyone knows an open source irc channel?
[05:12] <reisio> torcellite: besides this one?
[05:12] <torcellite> well, I'm new
[05:12] <windbuntu> i tried that and failed reisio i ran all this terminal stuff, got the codes off my hardware...pffft didnt work.
[05:12] <torcellite> i had no clue this was one :P
[05:12] <cpet> Karmaon: define crash
[05:13] <jagginess> torcellite, #google ?
[05:13] <torcellite> tried
[05:13] <Karmaon> cpet: your screen goes blank
[05:13] <torcellite> most of them are empty
[05:13] <nut> i got a good 1! can u use the regular cd to install video drivers on linux even if it is for windows???
[05:13] <cpet> program crash or full blown kernel panic
[05:13] <reisio> windbuntu: well do it right :p
[05:13] <Karmaon> maybe graphic driver crash
[05:14] <windbuntu> well the computer i tried it on...turns out there were no drivers for it....and i didnt want wine.
[05:14] <windbuntu> but my newer stuff works
[05:15] <nut> i havnt tried a game on it yet
[05:16] <Karmaon> why are there 3 flood bots in this chan?
[05:16] <nut> whats a flood bot??
[05:17] <Karmaon> what purpose do they serve, and why cannot one just do the other 2's job
[05:18] <nut> what r they 4??
[05:18]  * jagginess thinks the floodbot will do their tagging soon
[05:19] <jessica_> Is there any way for me to format my burned dvd to play on a standard dvd player?
[05:19] <jagginess> nut, you troll too much.. go for some fresh air
[05:19] <nut> why when u install cant u find ne of the lower states in central usa??
[05:19] <cpet> jessica_: no if the bluray isnt rw you can't
[05:19] <cpet> er bluray/dvd
[05:20] <nut> i dont understand troll to much i have alllllot of qss????
[05:20] <cpet> make sure the dvd is rewritable then using a burner software you can format the DVD and burn something new on it
[05:20] <jessica_> But my question is how to I set it to dvd format
[05:20] <nut> sry im multitasking on 2 pcs
[05:21] <cpet> jessica_: dvd format? software should know if you are using a dvd or a normal dvd
[05:21] <cpet> jessica_: then base the storage on that
[05:21] <cpet> normal cd*
[05:21] <nut> or atleast i should
[05:22] <nut> it
[05:22] <cpet> jessica_: be more specific ?
[05:23] <Karmaon> what a joy, ubuntu froze again
[05:23] <jessica_> I mean when I burn it and try to play it on a dvd player, it won't play
[05:23] <clone1018|laptop> Hey, I need some help regarding my wireless card, first off I need to figure out which one I'm running and I can't remember the command, thought it was iwconfig but I guess not.
[05:23] <cpet> jessica_: oh you need to use software that allows you to create a DVD movie
[05:23] <reisio> jessica_: talking about a video DVD?
[05:23] <jessica_> yes
[05:24] <reisio> jessica_: it's a tricky business even when you know what you're doing
[05:24] <cpet> jessica_: once that is done you can pop it in a dvd player and it will play
[05:24] <reisio> jessica_: kind of a waste of time
[05:24] <nut> ill have some qs when it finishes installing on the desktop
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> i have had good luck  with devede making video  dvds
[05:24] <reisio> simpler to buy a media PC
[05:24] <NoVoteLoss> clone1018 ifconfig
[05:24] <cpet> reisio: simpler?
[05:24] <reisio> cpet: significantly
[05:24] <cpet> hrm
[05:24] <reisio> it will cost you more in time learning how to burn a DVD
[05:24] <jessica_> Ha, that just made me laugh
[05:25] <reisio> that is, you could earn cash to buy a media PC in the same amount of time or less
[05:25] <clone1018|laptop> NoVoteLoss: that doesnt provide me with the name of the card if it's not properly installed/connected.
[05:25] <nut> dam some reason when it boot read error
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> some  dvd players (older ones) cant handle the  dvd+r or rw or other types of medias
[05:25] <reisio> that's just scraping the surface
[05:25] <xisor> i have an odd question, if i automatically mount my smb shared by editing my fstab, can programs tell if they are local or not?
[05:25] <nut> i got it lol
[05:26] <coraxx> Saeryn: u r there ?
[05:26] <reisio> trust me you don't want to waste the time learning how to burn a DVD video
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> xisor:  they should see them as local.
[05:26] <Saeryn> Yes I am coraxx
[05:26] <cpet> reisio: i did it 4 times today
[05:26] <cpet> reisio: it isn't such a pain
[05:26] <xisor> Dr_Willis: currently xbmc has a bug where it wont load logo images via smb, so this should fool it into thinking its local and bypass the problem?
[05:26] <reisio> cpet: all different sources?
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> xisor:  xbmc has its own  smb browseing feature. so no idea how the 2 would differ
[05:27] <cpet> reisio: 2 movies on each dvd
[05:27] <xisor> Dr_Willis: yes, when setting up your video sources with xbmcs built in smb support, that bug exists
[05:27] <fff> what is the command in terminal to shutdown the computer after x amount of minutes
[05:27] <reisio> cpet: and I s'pose these were the first DVD videos you ever created
[05:27] <xisor> Dr_Willis: i was just wondering if mounting them outside of xbmc would fool xbmc into thinking they were local files, and so it would treat them as such
[05:27] <Strav`> Hey speaking about media software, anyone here is having compiz crashed by gmpc?
[05:27] <reisio> fff: sleep Xm && shutdown -h now
[05:27] <reisio> fff: well, sudo shutdown -h now
[05:27] <Strav`> (I filled a bug about it on their mantis but got no feedback)
[05:27] <cpet> reisio: no
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> shutdown can take a time argument. ;)
[05:28] <reisio> cpet: no... kidding
[05:28] <fff> do i really need to sudo to shutdown?
[05:28] <reisio> Dr_Willis: feature creep
[05:28] <quiescens> reisio: of course, that will ask for a sudo password at the time it shuts down
[05:28] <nut> for some reason my onboard network card just sits there and twirls trying to find something
[05:28] <reisio> fff: no, but it's simpler
[05:28] <xisor> and now for another question... can someone help me setup my fstab to mount my smb shares?i need the syntax mostly
[05:28] <reisio> quiescens: bah, Ubuntu :p
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> xisor:  if you like xbmc, check out 'plex' sometime. its  sort of a  spin off with some neat features
[05:29] <reisio> completely misinterpreting the purpose of sudo :p
[05:29] <xisor> Dr_Willis: i like xbmc because of the incredible polish some of the skins have, other programs dont have the same skins
[05:29] <xisor> Dr_Willis: so i wont use them
[05:29] <fff> sudo shutdown -h 30 ....would that work to shut down in 30 minutes?
[05:29] <reisio> fff: I don't know the GNOME way to shutdown via command line, but you wouldn't need root to use it
[05:29] <quiescens> fff: traditionally it would just be sudo shutdown -h +(x)
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> xisor:  but you spend 99%  of the time watching videos.. or looking a tthe gui? ;)
[05:29] <nut> reboot
[05:29] <quiescens> fff: if you want it relative, you have to use +, like +10
[05:29] <xisor> Dr_Willis: i want it to look good 100% of the time :P is that so bad?
[05:29] <nut> in the root shell
[05:30] <xisor> Dr_Willis: besides, i already know how to configure and use xbmc XD
[05:30] <fff> ok thanks guys
[05:30] <xisor> Dr_Willis: what makes plex different?
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> xisor:  pointless theme is poiontless. ;)   but i got a boxeebox, and  play with xbmc, and  have been  playing with plex
[05:30] <coraxx> Dr_Willis: Here is a challenge ... can you tell me how to merge .vmdk-files (2gb splitted virtual-disk files) into just one big file, _without_ using VmWare-software ?
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> xisor:  plex has a 'server' only  part so you get access to your tv show and movies. via upnp/dlna with no gui needed. also has an android app so i can access my plex server from my phone from anywhere.
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> coraxx:  i dont use vmware. ;)
[05:31] <xisor> Dr_Willis: what makes the desktop interface different/special?
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> xisor:  and i could set up a guest accoiunt on plex to allow you to access the  stuff.
[05:32] <coraxx> coraxx: good neither do I ...well at least not anymore :-)
[05:32] <coraxx> Dr_Willis: good neither do I ...well at least not anymore
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> xisor:  plex 'media center' is a seperate app. looks/acts about xbmc from what i used it.  I was playing with the plex player on m y android mainly.
[05:32] <xisor> Dr_Willis: this is going to be stuck underneath my tv on my entertainment center, so i want it to look sleek and awesome, and easy for anyone to use
[05:32] <xisor> Dr_Willis: i dont have nor will i ever have cable tv, so this basically is my tv
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> xisor:  i just use it as a fileserver mainly. my tvs all have allshare so can play files from the plex server via dlna
[05:33] <nut> thats why i have movies on my servers
[05:33] <coraxx> Dr_Willis: now I use VirtualBox ... however I have the above-mentioned conversion problem.  :-(
[05:33] <jagginess> coraxx, probably one of vmware commands or gui dialog box can merge them.. this really should be your homework..
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> coraxx:  convert to raw then try the vbox tools? ;)
[05:34] <coraxx> jagginess: (remember criteria: no use of VMWare softwae)
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> coraxx:  bind them all to virtial drives in vbox. then   copy them all to a bigger virtual drive. ;)
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> i dont really know of any way to merge 2 real partions.. ;)
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> keeping all data
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> bbl. got a job.
[05:35] <coraxx> Dr_Willis: good idea ...I just don't know which software to use ...all online forum directs me to vdiskmanager which is part of the VMWare-server installation ...can't seem to find any ubuntu/linux software to do the job.
[05:35] <nut> if i put the routers ip address in the wired connection will it help better
[05:35] <nut> in the routes spot>>
[05:35] <ramspandu> jagginess: the wireless adapter worked with another system running ubuntu
[05:35] <ramspandu> hai all, i have a wireless adapter connected to my computer. but it is not decting my wireless network. what shall I do?
[05:35] <jagginess> coraxx, dunno what you mean.. .vmdk that's sort of a closed format.. don't complain if the merge fails.
[05:35] <N3WB13> hi
[05:36] <coraxx> Dr_Willis: there are about 20 or so files ... how do you suggest I mount/access them all in VirtualBox ?
[05:37] <nut> sry dont have the wireless router hooked up yet just a wired 1
[05:38] <coraxx> jagginess: in order to use VMWare software I will need to install it ...since there is no .deb-package for it, then the installation procedure is script-based and difficult to manage....so therefore I will not be installing vmware software ... (unless there is a .deb package for it)... so I'm looking for a tool that cn merge the files.  Not complaining about any error, cuz I haven't merged...
[05:38] <coraxx> ...anything yet.
[05:40] <cpet> coraxx: i beleive virtualbox can help their
[05:40] <coraxx> cpet: nice :-) ...how ?
[05:41] <N3WB13> do you know how i can do a clean install of nvidia driver in ubuntu 10.04LTS this is the error that thow when i run the propietary driver downloaded from the official webpage http://pastebin.com/Rpr6fckZ thanks
[05:41] <cpet> coraxx: also someone has made a script that allow you to mount the files
[05:41] <LiquidEdge> Anyone have a good recommend for a better music player/organizer besides the default?
[05:41] <cpet> xmms?
[05:41] <cpet> audacious
[05:42] <LiquidEdge> Will check it out.
[05:42] <jagginess> cat /dev/urandom >/dev/dsp
[05:42] <reisio> LiquidEdge: xmms is gone
[05:42] <coraxx> cpet: u know where to find/get that script ?
[05:43] <reisio> LiquidEdge: is there some one that you're used to?
[05:43] <LiquidEdge> Winamp.  :)
[05:43] <LiquidEdge> Which, I still use on my Android phone.
[05:43] <LiquidEdge> That was just one piece of software that got it right.
[05:43] <reisio> LiquidEdge: well audacious is probably the most like traditional winamp
[05:43] <LiquidEdge> Sweet.
[05:44] <nut> i would rather find something like that liquid but is more similar to windows media player
[05:44] <reisio> nut: VLC
[05:45] <nut> for music??
[05:45] <mr_dallas> don't seem to be able to build cdfs.ko for 12.04 - is there any secret voodoo I should be aware of to do that?
[05:45] <reisio> nut: for most anything
[05:45] <reisio> but its GUI is more like Windows Media Player
[05:46] <nut> i only use that to play videos
[05:46] <reisio> nut: plays audios, too
[05:46] <aeon-ltd> nut: how about mpd & ncmpcpp?
[05:47] <coraxx> Am I the only one who is online with a really good challenge ... ? :-)
[05:47] <nut> dont know what those r. have used gom and jet audio on windows but wont find all my music on the servers
[05:47] <reisio> coraxx: dunno, are you?
[05:48] <chalcedony> i'm ssh'd to my husband's computer .. but i'm in root .. ls gives me two things that are not home or his user.. how do i find them?
[05:48] <reisio> nut: it's a TUI, doubt that's what you want
[05:48] <coraxx> reisio: :-)  ...yah I think so   (have you read my previous inquires?)
[05:48] <reisio> chalcedony: find what now?
[05:48] <reisio> coraxx: no idea
[05:48] <sambagirl> what is a TUI
[05:48] <chalcedony> reisio, home or his user
[05:48] <chu> sambagirl: Terminal User Interface
[05:49] <sambagirl> text user interface?
[05:49] <sambagirl> ok
[05:49] <RumRum> chalcedony ls /home/
[05:49] <nut> what sambagirl said
[05:49] <RumRum> ?
[05:49] <nut> k
[05:49] <reisio> either AFAIC
[05:49] <reisio> chalcedony: what about home or his user?
[05:49] <nut> something similar to windows media player
[05:49] <RumRum> what do u mean by that?
[05:50] <coraxx> reisio: I'll take that as a 'no' then ...ok so -->here is a challenge ... can you tell me how to merge .vmdk-files (2gb splitted virtual-disk files) into just one big file, _without_ using VmWare-software ?
[05:50] <RumRum> What are you tryint to accomplish.
[05:50] <danny> Hello
[05:50] <chalcedony> reisio, his computer is ummm a maze .. ls /home/ - llhull lost& found
[05:50] <RumRum> llhull
[05:50] <danny> If I put this in rc.local will this command work at startup? "echo "OFF" > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch"
[05:50] <reisio> chalcedony: what're you looking for
[05:50] <chalcedony> reiso home chull Desktop
[05:50] <reisio> coraxx: nope, but maybe #vmware can
[05:50] <reisio> coraxx: seems like a good use of vmware software, though
[05:50] <fidel> chalcedony: cd /home/USERNAME ?
[05:51] <reisio> coraxx: you could also boot it up and rsync all the data out of it over your network
[05:51] <chalcedony> fidel, maybe :)
[05:51] <reisio> chalcedony: what specifically are you attempting to accomplish?
[05:51] <fidel> chalcedony: if that doesnt help - try to rephrase your question
[05:51] <fidel> and ask reisio's question ;)
[05:51] <fidel> *answer*
[05:51] <RumRum> chalcedony cat /etc/passwd | grep /home
[05:51] <danny> Anyone good at commands?
[05:51] <chalcedony> # cd /home/chull/
[05:51] <chalcedony> -bash: cd: /home/chull/: No such file or directory
[05:51] <RumRum> then u just /home/theuserthatshowsup
[05:51] <coraxx> reisio: did you read the "challenge" in its entirety ?
[05:51] <reisio> danny: someone probably is
[05:52] <fidel> danny: just ask your real question ;)
[05:52] <reisio> coraxx: yup
[05:52] <sambagirl> why is this showing up now when i attempt to install applications using the ubuntu software center? Requires installation of untrusted packages.  The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.  has a details dropdown with some stuff in the window and then ok button and that's all it does?
[05:52] <sambagirl> is this something to do with me sticking tightly to 10.10?
[05:52] <danny> RumRum: If I put this command in rc.local will this work at startup? or does this require root "echo "OFF" > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch"
[05:53] <reisio> sambagirl: that'd be my guess, yes
[05:53] <chalcedony> RumRum, that cat /etc/passwd | grep /home  gave me several lines is it worth it to pastebin?
[05:53] <coraxx> reisio: then how do you suggest I boot up multiple vmdk-files without a vmware-software installed ?
[05:53] <mi3> Hello everyone, I am getting this error http://paste.debian.net/172754/, any suggestions ? My cairo-dock is not opening .
[05:53] <RumRum> pastebin it and I will give u the user chalcedony
[05:53] <nut> how can u make a program auto start when it boots up but then close all on its own??
[05:53] <reisio> coraxx: I wouldn't suggest that
[05:53] <reisio> nut: close when?
[05:54] <nut> a few seconds after it opens
[05:54] <reisio> nut: why?
[05:54] <sambagirl> Well i dislike the new interface since 10.10. it's ugly and difficult to use and is organized shabbily in my opinion.
[05:54] <coraxx> reisio: uhmm you wrote "coraxx: you could also boot it up and rsync all the data out of it over your network"
[05:54] <reisio> sambagirl: so switch to Xfce
[05:54] <LiquidEdge> You know how awesome it is that Limbo is in the Software Center?
[05:54] <LiquidEdge> Pretty awesome.
[05:54] <reisio> coraxx: yup
[05:54] <danny> Use Cinnamon
[05:54] <RumRum> danny it requires root. But... u cant have echo within quotes.
[05:54] <coraxx> reisio: what did you mean by that ?
[05:54] <reisio> LiquidEdge: yeah :D
[05:54] <reisio> LiquidEdge: have you tried it yet?
[05:54] <sambagirl> is xfce similar to gnome?
[05:54] <reisio> sambagirl: similar to GNOME 2, yes
[05:54] <RumRum> unless its ran by a software
[05:55] <nut> when i change the background and then later restart its not there but when i auto start the settings manager it shows up after it boots\
[05:55] <LiquidEdge> reisio, I have it on PS3.  Still going to buy it here.
[05:55] <reisio> LiquidEdge: I already got it, but the site said something about steam keys
[05:55] <danny> RumRum: what would be the best way to rewrite this command so it would work properly at startup? My laptop always runs out because of the 6770m inside of it
[05:55] <chalcedony> RumRum, http://pastebin.com/cFNZXpn8
[05:55] <LiquidEdge> Worth 5 times that much.
[05:55] <sambagirl> with menus and stuff on the top like places applications systems and all the other stuff you can add to the panels?
[05:55] <reisio> LiquidEdge: I'm not sure you actually have to buy it if you already have steam
[05:55] <LiquidEdge> reisio, oh?  Could be cool.
[05:55] <reisio> little confused, because I didn't think Steam had official stuff for Linux yet
[05:55] <RumRum> chalcedony cd /home/llhull
[05:55] <chalcedony> sambagirl, i switched my main box to debian
[05:55] <reisio> maybe the Limbo guys did the coding and ... still use a steam key?
[05:56]  * reisio shrugs
[05:56] <reisio> best guess
[05:56] <reisio> great game though, I hope they make a sequel that's 10-20 times longer
[05:56] <LiquidEdge> I actually liked the length.
[05:56] <LiquidEdge> Maybe make 5 more games the same length.  :D
[05:56] <reisio> that'd work, too
[05:56] <sambagirl> chalcedony i am looking at xubuntu i think
[05:56] <LiquidEdge> "Trial by Death" is tough to do for too long.
[05:57] <reisio> chalcedony: hi
[05:57] <reisio> chalcedony: what are you trying to do?
[05:57] <reisio> LiquidEdge: :D not too gruesome in black & white
[05:57] <mi3> Hello everyone, I am getting this error http://paste.debian.net/172754/, any suggestions ? My cairo-dock is not opening .
[05:58] <chalcedony> reisio, are you looking at the full "what am i trying to do' .. i'm trying to find the photos we took.. they show on his computer by date in the directories.. but winscp (yes windows7) shows only the 5/20 ones not the later pictures .. so .. ssh and see if i can see them.. and i can't even find his user.
[05:58] <sambagirl> is there anyway you can save save all your settings and data and import them into say xubuntu or other ubuntu versions like 12.0x ? i use clonezilla to do full images but that only puts back what you had so your where you were
[05:59] <RumRum> did the cmd work chalcedony ?
[05:59] <chalcedony> RumRum, i gave you the result of the command in pastebin
[05:59] <RumRum> yea but I gave u response.
[05:59] <RumRum> chalcedony cd /home/llhull
[05:59] <chalcedony> oh it's in *my* user ..
[06:00] <RumRum> o
[06:00] <chalcedony> RumRum, i need to be in his user
[06:00] <RumRum> yea you need to login as either root or his user then chalcedony :)
[06:01] <reisio> chalcedony: run this: su - llhull
[06:01] <chalcedony> RumRum, i logged in with ssh chull@hisip
[06:01] <reisio> chalcedony: then this: find . -iname '*.jp*g' | less
[06:02] <RumRum> chalcedony whatever reisio said.
[06:03] <reisio> chalcedony: or you could use https://code.google.com/p/win-sshfs/ to mount the filesystem locally in Windows, and look as you would normally in Windows
[06:03] <reisio> mount /home/llhull that is, probably in there
[06:03] <chalcedony> reisio, that last command gave me files i recognize
[06:03] <chalcedony> but not the stuff i'm after
[06:04] <reisio> chalcedony: well it should find every single .jpg/jpeg file from that directory down
[06:04] <chalcedony> hehe
[06:04] <RumRum> maybe try png?
[06:04] <reisio> chalcedony: you could run it on /home/, too
[06:04] <chalcedony> more likely
[06:04] <reisio> chalcedony: find /home/ -iname '*.jp*g' | less
[06:04] <chalcedony> reisio, ok ty
[06:05] <reisio> no photos from a camera would be PNG
[06:05] <reisio> best exhaust all searches for JPEGs first
[06:05] <RumRum> yea, but since it didn't find anything I thought :)
[06:05] <LiquidEdge> reisio, Yeah, but he's kind of cute and he tries so hard.
[06:05] <Marzata> might be bmp?
[06:05] <LiquidEdge> reisio, When his head falls up, you jump.
[06:05] <reisio> heh
[06:05] <RumRum> might be tif
[06:06] <peay> can anyone direct me to a place i can get help with ubuntu on
[06:06] <LiquidEdge> peay, You're here?
[06:06] <reisio> chalcedony: perhaps searching for the location name would yield faster results
[06:06] <reisio> chalcedony: like find /home/ -iname '*beach*'
[06:06] <Marzata> peay: welcome home
[06:07] <chalcedony> reisio, hmmm .. in winscp i have /<root> home chull Desktop > then file with photos
[06:07] <peay> kk...im trying to figure out how to A. get right click working on my clickpad and B.disable the buttons of the clickpad from acting as part of the mouse
[06:07] <peay> ive found a possible fix but have no clue how to implement it
[06:07] <chalcedony> reisio, it's finding /home/llhull/*.jpg
[06:08] <LiquidEdge> peay, Dude.  You didn't say you had a HARD problem.
[06:08] <LiquidEdge> I'm out.
[06:08] <peay> haha
[06:09] <reisio> chalcedony: okay, are they the right photos? :)
[06:09] <chalcedony> reisio, no
[06:09] <LiquidEdge> Stuff I can answer is stuff like, "Hey.  I need to install #xubuntu.  What's the Internet?"
[06:09] <peay> (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1966016) comment from videojoy shows a possible solution but im unfamiliar with xorg.conf and whatnot
[06:09] <Kartagis> hi
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> peay:  xorg.conf is just a text file you make/edit as root.. :0
[06:10] <Kartagis> a user can't login, when they enter the password, they fall back to the login screen. what could cause this?
[06:10] <chalcedony> hi hi Dr_Willis :))
[06:10] <jussi> does anyone know how to get pidgin to give me back my contacts list?
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> Kartagis:  X crashing/unity crashing and going back to login. can they login at the console?
[06:11] <Kartagis> let me ask
[06:11] <peay> Dr_Willis: once created is there a proper place to store it?
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> peay:  its /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:11] <Kartagis> Dr_Willis: they can't
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> Kartagis:  any error?
[06:12] <xisorshadow> hi, is it possible to make it so any application can delete or add files to my network shared folders? i have permissions on the windows side for it
[06:12] <Kartagis> Dr_Willis: no, just going back to login
[06:12] <xisorshadow> but need sudo to do it here locally
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> Kartagis:  thats very weird..
[06:13] <xisorshadow> im basically trying to give xbmc full file permissions for my network shares that i mounted
[06:13] <Kartagis> Dr_Willis: they insist the password is correct, the hard disk is not full
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> Kartagis:  id have to suggest rebooting and using the grub menu to get into rescue/recovery mode. and check the system out
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> could be the fs is currupoted.
[06:13] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, hi
[06:13] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, do you know how to give xbmc permission to add/remove files from my mounted network shares?
[06:14] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, its going to need that ability
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> xisorshadow:  be sure they are mounted by the proper user that owns the share. not xbmc perhaps?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc
[06:14] <chalcedony> how do i get out of an ssh session?
[06:14] <chalcedony> quit isn't it
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> samba doc/book i recall has examples
[06:14] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, they are mounted via fstab, but on this side i need sudo to delete or add files to the shares
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> chalcedony:  exit
[06:14] <chalcedony> ah ty
[06:14] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, which means xbmc wouldnt be able to
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> xisorshadow:  fstab has options as to how to mount the shares
[06:15] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, how so?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> xisorshadow:  fstab has an 'options' field. and the smbfs/cifs filesystem type has dozens of optionms.
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> i always set my shares  as fully accessaboe by 'guest'
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> accessable
[06:16] <peay> Dr_Willis: It is not allowing me to save the text doc into that location
[06:16] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, how would i do this?
[06:16] <peay> permission error
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> peay:  you need to edit the file as root..
[06:16] <Kartagis> Dr_Willis: I passed on everything you said, and the bastard just left without even a thank you :|
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> xisorshadow:  find some samba examples
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> Kartagis:  :) did he even fix the issue?
[06:17] <peay> how would i do that
[06:17] <chalcedony> reisio, logging out and back in worked :)
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> !sudo | peay
[06:17] <peay> im a noob to linux
[06:17] <xisorshadow> /192.168.x.xxx/c$ /media/c cifs username=xxxxx,password=xxxx 0 0
[06:17] <xisorshadow> is the current syntax im using Dr_Willis
[06:17] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, is that not correct?
[06:17] <reisio> chalcedony: worked for.. what?
[06:17] <xisorshadow> / not /
[06:18] <chalcedony> reisio, now i'm in the right place :)
[06:18] <xisorshadow> 2 /, xchat seems to be cutting out the 2nd one :P
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> xisorshadow:  firstly i DONT think you want to use $c as the share name. $c is special
[06:18] <reisio> chalcedony: which place is that? (pwd)
[06:18] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, c$ gives full access to the c drive, so long as i authenticate with the machine
[06:18] <chalcedony> reisio, chull Desktop :)
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> xisorshadow:  id make a guest share with your video files in it.
[06:18] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, there are no differences other than that, and the $ denoting it as hidden when browsing shares for the device
[06:18] <reisio> chalcedony: gj
[06:19] <xisorshadow> linux can see them tho, c$ just hides it from windows machines lol
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> not much reason to be shareing the whole C drive either.
[06:19] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, im sharing all 14 of my drives, which have many multiple folders where my media is spread about
[06:19] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, its either that or have many many many more than 14 shares XD
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> You do realize that xbmc can access the windows media player Dlna/upnp type share to get to your library?
[06:20] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, it can, but again, there is a bug which stops it from fetching logo and artwork via network shares if setup inside xbmc
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> i normally just make guest shares.
[06:21] <slikts> I don't understand, the X process is using about 7 hours of CPU time every day, and my cpu is a fast i5
[06:21] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, so im trying to do it externally
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> no idea on 'logos'  not seeing a thumbnail wouldent bother me
[06:21] <slikts> X is also using a lot of CPU while the pc is idle
[06:21] <peay> Dr_Willis: i need to do this (create 51-clickpad.conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d directory) but im not sure how..
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> make a guest share as a test.
[06:21] <chalcedony> reisio, scp all pictures > my computer ?
[06:21] <slikts> this is extreme fail; if I had to use this laptop remotely, I'd be noticeably limited
[06:21] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, every show has a logo, fanart, poster style image, banner style image, and clearart, subsequently each season has dvd covers and each episode has thumbnails
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> peay:  with a text editor,. you run it as root. 'gksudo gedit /path/to/the/file
[06:22] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, and i need xbmc to fetch that data :P
[06:22] <reisio> chalcedony: why not
[06:22] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, so again, i need xbmc to be able to read AND write to my shares
[06:22] <slikts> life under linux: you get a severe fail and no recourse to anything except switching OSs/distros
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> xisorshadow:  make a guest share on one directory to see if its even going to work.
[06:22] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, how do i do this?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> xisorshadow:  on windows.. right click.. share.. set it up as a guest accessable..
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> you know what a $c share is.. but dont know how to make a guest share? ;)
[06:23] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, they are already setup to have full permissions
[06:23] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, my problem is on the linux end, i need sudo access to write to or delete from the shares
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> xisorshadow:  try making ione as as guest share.  is what im saying. with the guest user.
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> its the username/maping i imagine. using guest would remove the need for a specific user
[06:24] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, its not a linux specific thing?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> samba has hundreds of options for mounting shares.
[06:24] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, i dont have guest users enabled on my windows box, nor do i have the network viewable by guests, i authenticate for a reason, its much more secure
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> could be some fstb option you need. i rarely mount samba shares that way. check around for examples.
[06:26] <Foxboron> So, i probably did the most stupidest thing ever. I tried to remove gnome by using sudp apt-get remove gnome-*
[06:27] <chalcedony> is there an argument to scp to send a directory?
[06:27] <Foxboron> so today booting into xfce i got an error saying it cant boot and had to use low grapic mdoe
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> chalcedony:  scp takes thee same arguments cp does.
[06:27] <Foxboron> Apparently i cant find an xorg file and wont use any settings. Anyone know hwo to fix this?
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> Foxboron:  xorg.conf file is optional.
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> and many systems dont need it
[06:28] <Foxboron> I have read that. But accoding to the log it tries to find xorg and cant find it, missing some settings
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> Foxboron:  thats normally not a fatal error
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> what setting is missing? X should auto configure for the most part
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> Foxboron:  youu could reinstall 'ubuntu-desktop' and it should reinstall all needed packages
[06:29] <Foxboron> i did
[06:29] <Foxboron> also did a reboot, same problem
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> Foxboron:  whats your video card anyway?
[06:29] <Foxboron> it does work ctrl+alt+f1, log in and type startx
[06:29] <Foxboron> Intel.
[06:29] <Foxboron> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Foxboron:  so the X login screen works? but the user cant login? or does the login screen also fail?
[06:30] <jagginess> chalcedony, traditional scp meant 1 file.. sftp is supposedly the better client
[06:30] <Karmaon> ubuntu 12.04 at least one thing right: be more friendly with ati's drivers
[06:30] <chalcedony> jagginess, oh .. so i need to sftp the same stuff or is it different?
[06:31] <Foxboron> Dr_Willis, on boot it pops up an error asking to run in low grapics. Try to toubleshoot it wont boot with backup setting or anything. So changing display (or what its called) loging in and typing startx works
[06:31] <Foxboron> but not really ideal logging in
[06:31] <Foxboron> a rather noob in Linux so not sure what to do really :/
[06:32] <slikts> reinstall
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> im not sure why intel hardware would  need to go in low gfx mode
[06:32] <slikts> reinstall os #1 noob solution
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> how did you 'change display' ?
[06:32] <Foxboron> Reinstall os <- not going to happen.
[06:33] <slikts> then suffer
[06:33] <Foxboron> Dr_Willis, ctrl+alt+f1
[06:33] <Foxboron> not sure what its called :P
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> Foxboron:  thts 'going to the console' ;)
[06:33] <slikts> it's switching ttys
[06:33] <Foxboron> ahh. Much better :)
[06:33] <slikts> ctrl alt f1 is tty1
[06:33] <Foxboron> But i do use an external monitor sometimes
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> !fixres
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> Foxboron:  so from startx - your desktop IS usign the right res?
[06:34] <Foxboron> Dr_Willis, when i type startx everything works
[06:34] <Foxboron> No problem.
[06:34] <susundberg> Foxboron: do apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ? (my guess he is missing gdm / any other login window?)
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> Foxboron:  instead of 'startx'  try 'sudo service lightdm start' it could be its a lightdm issue.
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> or gdm issue.. or whatrver dm you are using
[06:35] <Foxboron> susundberg, i did apt-get xubuntu
[06:36] <Foxboron> but, i removed ubuntu so sould maybe try to fetch ubuntu-desktop aswell
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> package name would be 'xubuntu-desktop'
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> grab them both ;0
[06:36] <Foxboron> what i am doing ^^
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> heh.. grab lubuntu-desktop  if you want to really shotgun it!
[06:36] <Foxboron> gonna setup IRC on phone before i reboot :P
[06:36] <Foxboron> why dont we just get every *-dekstop?
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> what else is there.. :)
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> kubuntu-desktop
[06:36] <Foxboron> Unity?
[06:37] <Foxboron> hmm
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> whats sad is i DO have all those installed on myh system
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> i got a job.. bbl.
[06:38] <Foxboron> sure ^^
[06:38] <susundberg> xubuntu-desktop should contain the greeter also, at least depency to it, so some greeter will get installed if you removed it by accident
[06:38] <Sabu> What do you guys do when feeling sad or inadequate, like when we realize the entire world is full  of  volatile and unforgiving people, that will feast upon your disadvantage if you don't fend for your self. What am I to do, what are we to do?
[06:38] <susundberg>  !ot | Sabu
[06:39] <Foxboron> lol Sabu
[06:40] <Foxboron> susundberg, getting ubuntu-desktop now and gonna try a reboot ^^
[06:41] <susundberg> Foxboron: good luck!
[06:41] <Foxboron> Fasten your seatbelts.
[06:41]  * Foxboron puts on googles
[06:41] <Sabu> I know I'm really off topic but, Foxboron, I was serious.
[06:41] <Bijan> how can i create dvd repositories from my local repo(44GB)? 'searches show debpartial is the tool but it is missing'
[06:42] <Foxboron> Sabu, stick to beeing king of the snitch and you will be all ok
[06:43] <pi3ch> Bijan: do u mean u wanna backup ur repo?
[06:44] <Sabu> I don't really know what king of the snitch means? Are you giving me helpful advice or sarcastically telling me to brushoff?  Foxboron, I have no right speaking off topic here anyway, but if you were trying to help me I sincerely thank you.
[06:44] <Bijan> pi3ch: i want to share my repository with friends, i need something like debian repositories on DVDs
[06:44] <Scottyob> hi everyone.. I'm trying to run a boot-repair utility from my ubuntu CD live CD but it says it has to be run in 64bit mode.. is there a way to get these live CD's to boot into 64 bit kernel?
[06:44] <Foxboron> k, lets reboot and see.
[06:45] <reisio> Scottyob: is it the same image you installed from?
[06:46] <Scottyob> reisio: nope, installed is an old ubuntu 8
[06:46] <pi3ch> Bijan: bare with me I m looking for a tool name ...
[06:46] <slobknob> Is there a windows installer for Kubuntu?
[06:46] <slobknob> actually my question is, does wubi support kubuntu as well?
[06:46] <Scottyob> reisio: I'm an idiot, I should have downloaded the amd64 image
[06:47] <Scottyob> sorry
[06:47] <Bijan> pi3ch: ok ;)
[06:47] <fidel> slobknob: may i ask why you want to use kubi in the first place?
[06:47] <Foxboron> weeeee
[06:47] <fidel> *wubi*
[06:47] <slobknob> to install kubuntu inside the windows part
[06:47] <Foxboron> Dr_Willis and susundberg, it works now ^^ Thanks for the help
[06:47] <reisio> Scottyob: can use http://www.sysresccd.org/ for both
[06:47] <Foxboron> wasnt that much of a problem tho :3
[06:47] <pi3ch> Bijan: U can use Remastersys to create backup of your complete dist or create a dist share with friends
[06:48] <Scottyob> reisio: I didn't want to use rescue CD, wanted to use this ppa http://www.howopensource.com/2012/05/reinstall-recover-grub-from-ubuntu-12-04-live-cd-usb/
[06:49] <Bijan> pi3ch: hmmm ... i don't think that is the right solution
[06:49] <fidel> slobknob: afaik it should work with kubuntu as well as it does with ubuntu. i was asking as i do have the impression that using wubi isnt the best idea in the first place - but i might be wrong here as well
[06:49] <Bijan> pi3ch: i have complete ubuntu 12.04 repositories (45GB) and i can't write all of them on just one DVD. i need something to split them into DVD sizes
[06:49] <slobknob> well if i install using a dedicated partition, will i have to re-write the bootloader?
[06:50] <slobknob> for dual boot capability?
[06:50] <Bijan> pi3ch: you sure Remastersys is the right tool?
[06:50] <Piep000r> hello! since i made an update to 12.04 i have trouble with my radeon vga driver. "radeon 0000:06:00.0: GPU lockup CP stall for more than 10000msec" is there an solution for this yet?
[06:50] <pi3ch> Bijan: it might not be the exact tool you are looking for, it can be used to backup/share a distro
[06:51] <Cyber_Akuma> I haven't updated Ubuntu in a long time, mainly because I manually set grub2 stage 1 to the ACPI module since it can't load with the default BIOS module. Problem is, every time grub2 is updated, it resets it back to the BIOS module. Any way to update it but make it stay with the ACPI module?
[06:51] <Bijan> pi3ch: ok. thanks. i'll try that :)
[06:51] <reisio> Cyber_Akuma: what is involved in your acpi module process?
[06:51] <Guest1894> hola
[06:52] <Guest1894> KUBUNTU In Spanish please...
[06:52] <Yunisika> hi all is there a terminal tool to alarm me ???
[06:52] <pi3ch> Bijan: also check aptoncd.
[06:52] <reisio> Yunisika: mplayer
[06:52] <Cyber_Akuma> reisio: Its been a while, I admit, I really don't remember, I had to lookup how to do it online. I basically reintall grub2's stage 1 with the ACPI module, which overwrites it's default BIOS module
[06:52] <Piep000r> hello! since i made an update to 12.04 i have trouble with my radeon vga driver. "radeon 0000:06:00.0: GPU lockup CP stall for more than 10000msec" is there an solution for this yet?
[06:53] <Yunisika> mplayer is a media player is not it
[06:53] <reisio> Cyber_Akuma: maybe it's something you can achieve from a simple param in grub.cfg (or the custom file)
[06:53] <reisio> Yunisika: it is
[06:53] <Cyber_Akuma> cant
[06:53] <reisio> Yunisika: mplayer dingaling.wav
[06:53] <Yunisika> i want some can alarm me
[06:53] <Cyber_Akuma> Linux is installed past a part of the drive the BIOS can read, so with the BIOS modile it fails to read the stage 1.5 files
[06:53] <Cyber_Akuma> so it can't even get to grub.cfg without that module
[06:53] <reisio> Cyber_Akuma: well there's nothing stopping you from running cp -r /boot/grub/ ~/elsewhere && {update nonsense} && cp -r ~/elsewhere/* /boot/grub/
[06:54] <Cyber_Akuma> my mobo dosen't support lba48, and the drive is 160gb, ubuntu is installed past the 128gb barrier
[06:54] <Cyber_Akuma> as well as it's boot files
[06:56] <davdx> help
[06:56] <davdx> I need to work
[06:56] <davdx> with the serial
[06:57] <davdx> about panda
[06:57] <davdx> board
[06:57] <davdx> I need to do some test
[06:57] <davdx> wit the serial port
[06:58] <davdx> anyone
[06:58] <davdx> can hel me
[06:58] <Bijan> pi3ch: aptoncd might be the one. ;) i'll check that. thank you
[07:02] <mysticc_> I mistakenly deleted bin
[07:03] <mysticc_> I have another comuters bin folder on pen drive but I can not mount it as there is not bin folder .. and pretty much cannot even create it ..
[07:05] <nsnellma> is there any quick answer to why some (compiz) hot corners don't work in unity?
[07:05] <nsnellma> at the moment only the bottom left corner is active
[07:05] <nsnellma> the other three aren't working
[07:05] <slikts> what are hot corners?
[07:06] <nsnellma> corners that will trigger a predefined action when you move your mouse there
[07:06] <slikts> ew
[07:06] <numberto1> how to run .bin file (it is a data file)
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> numberto1: mark it as executable and then you can run it
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> numberto1: what are you installing?
[07:09] <numberto1> ActionParsnip: I am not isntalling anything. I believe it should be video, or maybe dvd file. I am not sure
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> numberto1: use the 'file' command, it'll hopefully tell you
[07:11] <numberto1> ActionParsnip: figured it out. I was right. It was a dvd file
[07:11] <numberto1> ActionParsnip: I just mounted it, and it worked :)
[07:11] <kardan> greetings! i tried a distupgrade from maverick to precise. but i went in an "disruption by PkgProblemResolver". is there any chance to repair this?
[07:12] <K-Lab> mornin all
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> hi K-Lab :)
[07:19] <Piep000r> hello! since i made an update to 12.04 i have trouble with my radeon vga driver. "radeon 0000:06:00.0: GPU lockup CP stall for more than 10000msec" is there an solution for this yet?
[07:19] <ecthiender> hello, I want to know if upstart script are run as root. Or rather the jobs that I put in /etc/init/
[07:19] <ecthiender> ??
[07:20] <kardan> any idea somebody how to interpret "interruption by PkgProblemResolver" - "could be because of held packages"
[07:20] <kardan> seems as the upgrade went terribly wrong
[07:20] <mcored> can we mount these two harddisks MEDIA and SERVER in such a way that it dont show up as Devices but act like more built-in ? http://i.min.us/ib1ipMQw0JP915.PNG
[07:21] <mcored> it feels like they are external hard disks being able to unmount anytime
[07:21] <davdx> somebodyç
[07:21] <mcored> i got one hard disk mounted as /home so it doesnt show up in Devices i just want other hard disks to be mounted the same way, is that possible?
[07:21] <davdx> I JUST WANT KNOW HOW TO INSTALL MINICOMM
[07:22] <eein> is anyone familiar with gddrescue?
[07:22] <davdx> SOME ONE FAMILIAR WITH MINICOMM
[07:23] <chu> davdx: Please don
[07:23] <chu> t shout in caps
[07:23] <ecthiender> davdx, sudo apt-get install minicom
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> davdx: what is minicom?
[07:23] <neglesaks> cound someone please notify the ubuntu one operators that the notes sync is out of order?
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> !info minicom
[07:24] <eein> i finally got some data off a scsi drive before it started throwing key errors, i restarted which resets the scsi drive but i dont see a way to append to my previous image
[07:24] <newubuntu_> Sir, i am done a mistake today. I ran this command , sudo chown -R myusername:myusername /        --------> which means to change ownership of everything to "myusername" . How can i revert it back ?
[07:24] <ecthiender> davdx, run the above command in a terminal.
[07:24] <Piep000r> hello! since i made an update to 12.04 i have trouble with my radeon vga driver. "radeon 0000:06:00.0: GPU lockup CP stall for more than 10000msec" is there any solution for this yet?
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> newubuntu_: I'd reinstall
[07:25] <ecthiender> Are upstart scripts run as root? i.e, if I write a custom upstart script and put it in /etc/init, will the job be run as root?
[07:26] <newubuntu_> ActionParsnip ,ihat answer for me ?
[07:26] <newubuntu_> ActionParsnip ,is that answer for me ?
[07:27] <newubuntu_> at present i am using ubuntu with damaged settingas
[07:27] <eein> nm i referenced the wrong log which then prompted to overwrite my image since no data matched blank log.  entered the correct log and it began to append by default
[07:27] <newubuntu_> how can i have a fresh install of ubuntu will new and fresh setings
[07:27]  * kardan is patient
[07:28] <neglesaks> cound someone please notify the ubuntu one operators that the notes sync is out of order? thanks in advance.
[07:29] <newubuntu_> actually i modified ownership of everything to "myusename"  using sudo chown -R myusername:myusername /       -------- so i need to re-install,
[07:29] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, hi
[07:30] <newubuntu_> so i downloaded iso file(ubuntu) , how can i install that ?
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> newubuntu_: yes, the ownerships are complex in the OS so you will have screwed your OS up quite a lot
[07:30] <xisorshadow> newubuntu_, burn it to a cd using any burning program, or if you have a usb flash drive you can put it on there with a different program
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> newubuntu_: it will take a LONG time to even get it close to being right
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> newubuntu_: remember to MD5 test the ISO
[07:31] <xisorshadow> ActionParsnip, hi
[07:31] <teotwaki> hi, i have a zowie celeritas keyboard, in usb, and the dead keys [shift, ctrl, alt, etc] are... dead. they simply aren't working. lsusb shows this Bus 001 Device 007: ID 2345:0101 with no decide name or anything. i have seen some reports regarding it being a driver issue, however, the only solution i've come across is where they use a double adapter [usb to ps2 to usb]. any ideas on how to get this working [questionmark]
[07:31] <xisorshadow> ActionParsnip, ive been learning ALOT the last week or so, from setting this htpc up the way i wanted it. you helped me on my first day
[07:31] <mcored> try http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/#button newubuntu_ make sure you have the USB drive formatted BEFORE trying it
[07:31] <CoJaBo> Ok, I have a binary package that is a haphazard mix of 32- and 64-bit binaries- is it actually possible to run these on one machine, or is the pcakge just FUBAR?
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> xilo: np man, in time you'll help others :)
[07:33] <mcored>  53 CDs to download are they outta their mind http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.5/amd64/bt-cd/ ?
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> teotwaki: if you run:  xev   do they make events
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> mcored: debian is offtopic here
[07:34] <mcored> yeah i forgot to add (offtopic)
[07:34] <Blackshirt> You should join #debian
[07:34] <teotwaki> ActionParsnip: yes, they do. however, they seem to return instantly, not when i release the key.
[07:34] <newubuntu_> thanks Actionparsnip
[07:35] <newubuntu_> i wil try
[07:38] <sakthi> #grails
[07:40] <peay> how can i disable the softbuttons on my touchpad as cursor input
[07:45] <peay> how can i disable the softbuttons on my touchpad as cursor input
[07:46] <kardan> gnome-system-tools depends on libpolkit-gtk which is not installable
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> kardan: are there any bugs reported?
[07:47] <kardan> ActionParsnip: I can not check atm as i lost my GUI
[07:48] <peay> how can i disable the softbuttons on my touchpad as cursor input
[07:48] <peay> i dont mean to spam but can it be done
[07:48]  * kardan is switching sources from precise to oneiric
[07:50] <mcored> btw ubuntu should scrape the top bar all together and have just one side in the left like this http://i.min.us/iPHoTuW04gwjs.jpg
[07:51] <mcored> then it wont show two title bars like this http://minus.com/iF6ykQIzuFjEg.PNG very confusing
[07:51] <kardan> now libpolkit-gtk-1-0 ist there. the main problem still is, that perlapi-5-10.1 has no installation candidate. which ubuntu version does this come from?
[07:51] <newubuntu_> mcored, u gave me a link to create bootable usb . that is an exe file . but i am using ubuntu now, how can i use that to install ubuntu freshly
[07:52] <peay> how can i disable the softbuttons on my touchpad as cursor input
[07:52] <cheako> mcored: So no global menu bar like this, http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/
[07:52] <mcored> close,restore,minus bars  also hidden in ubuntu until your mouse reaches top left so i dont know where my mouse pointer path is unkonwn until i see those buttons
[07:53] <cheako> I hate that, I like to snap windows together and if they always change size it's ugly.
[07:53] <albech> someone installed a secondary dhcp server on out network and this is causing major problems now. is there a way to locate it?
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> kardan: check launchpad, if you have no PPAs enabled I suggest you report a new bug
[07:53] <uncle_scrooge> Hello! I am trying to upgrade from Ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04, and it is not appearing in Upgrade Manager.
[07:53] <mcored> interesting cheako
[07:53] <cheako> albech: No.
[07:54] <albech> i was looking at dhcping
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> albech: you could use nmap to scan the subnet
[07:54] <kardan> ActionParsnip: thanks for your answer. I can report on launchpad when I repaired my GUI. sorry, what are PPAs?
[07:54] <cheako> albech: You should already have every switch port label and accounted for so you can go hunting for the port that has link but shouldn't.
[07:55] <mcored> newubuntu_:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> kardan: PPAs are 3rd party software sources
[07:55] <cheako> albech: Hmm, interesting you can get it's mac address and then look at the mac routing tables on each switch.
[07:56] <cheako> ...You need fancy switches for that.
[07:56] <rdz> hi all. I don't get any sounds from empathy when receiving messages, although i enabled sound notifications in its preferences
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> rdz: do you get sounds elsewhere?
[07:56] <mcored> in ubuntu how do u by default activate Ctrl+2 view for all folders?
[07:57] <rdz> ActionParsnip, sound is generally working.. so does the sound test in preferences -> sound
[07:57] <cheako> albech: Maybe you'll get lucky and the rouge device is also doing spanning tree and you can find it that way.
[07:57] <rdz> ActionParsnip, afaict, it's only empathy
[07:57] <peay> how can i disable the softbuttons on my touchpad as cursor input
[07:58] <heroandtn3> @mcored,  Edit -> Preference
[07:58] <teotwaki> ActionParsnip: any idea/
[07:58] <cheako> mcored: I still don't know what's meant by document-centric DE.
[07:58] <mcored> omg thanks heroandtn3 i dont konw how i missed that
[07:59] <kardan> ActionParsnip: do you have an idea for my apt problem. it went completely cray reporting screens of "package not installable". i have no idea to get rid of that
[07:59] <cheako> I couldn't find a good description any where, every one sounds like they want to do away with having Windows and just have documents instead.
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> kardan: run:   ubuntu-bug gnome-system-tools
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> kardan: switching sources from Precise to Oneiric will break your OS
[08:00] <kardan> command not found :/
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> teotwaki: if you use the keyboard app, select to set the action and press the ke
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> *key
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut
[08:01] <kardan> it broke already when I upgraded from maverick to precise obviously. Now I try to fix it.
[08:01] <mcored> i wanna make a good screenshotting app for ubuntu
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> kardan: well yeah, you bunny hopped releases
[08:02] <teotwaki> ActionParsnip: set the action? This seems to be a driver issue, as explained in this bug report https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/24505 I'm not simply trying to get my multimedia keys to work. I can't use the keyboard.
[08:02] <kardan> however, although i like the uptime of 25 days and need to get familiar that this system needs a fresh restart
[08:03] <kardan> ActionParsnip: yep, maverick-precise was bit too far
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> kardan: missing out a single release is too far
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> kardan: I suggest you reinstall
[08:04] <kardan> yes, will do. thought jumping from LTS to LTS is possible.
[08:04] <stuk_gen> hi all :) i have download a 64 bit version of last ubuntu
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> kardan: yes, but maverick isn't LTS
[08:04] <stuk_gen> but when i run its freeze on r8169 gigabit ethernet
[08:04] <stuk_gen> how can i solve?
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> kardan: Lucid is LTS, Hady is LTS and Precise is LTS
[08:04] <kardan> mhh, but switching back from lucid was also no option .)
[08:05] <kardan> ok, nice try anyway..
[08:10] <kardan> by the way the jump from natty to precise worked on another laptop
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> kardan: its not advised or supported
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> kardan: the upgrade docs clearly show you need to upgrade to the next release, or LTS to LTS
[08:16] <mint_> Please Give me a command for wiping data on this drive c
[08:16] <kardan> ActionParsnip: never read them as I was used upgrading from debian without big issues. maybe ubuntu is more complicated as there are bigger changes
[08:17] <mint_> Please Give me a command for wiping data on this drive c. Please
[08:17] <kardan> mint_: which OS?
[08:17] <mint_> i using Mint now
[08:17] <kardan> try srm or secure-delete
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> !mint
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | kardan
[08:18] <mint_> linux mint help NO helo
[08:18] <mint_> help
[08:18] <mint_> secure delete is a package name?
[08:18] <sbattey_> I'm told it's incredibly insecure to allow PHP to run as the user that owns the files to allow php to write to files on the filesystem. Thoughts?
[08:18] <kardan> secure-delete
[08:18] <eein> mint_, just random dd the drive
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> mint_: mint isn't supported here
[08:19] <kardan> ok bye then. thanks ActionParsnip
[08:19] <mint_> tnx friends
[08:22] <cheako> They made Windows 8 impossible to test for ppl who build there own computers and don't have windows currently.
[08:22] <cheako> ..well if you played by the rules.
[08:23] <mint_> i installed secure-delet x84 and normal. but where can i find that?
[08:24] <mint_> Where can i find Secure-Delete Installed program
[08:26] <cheako> sbattey_: Yes, but then php should prevent that.
[08:27] <ikonia> mint_: last time - talk to mint support
[08:27] <ikonia> mint_: you've been asked multiple times, use the mint support resources, not ubuntu, clear ?
[08:27] <stuk_gen> is there a way to run a live usb desktop amd64 image that don't check if there is a network driver?
[08:27] <cheako> sbattey_: It's incredibly insecure to run PHP from the same UID for every one on a shared server... but then every one does that.
[08:27] <ikonia> stuk_gen: what do you mean
[08:28] <Psyclonic> can someone help me install openmw from the tarball
[08:28] <cheako> hmm, like a newtork=off boot parameter.
[08:28] <ikonia> Psyclonic: is it not available through the ubuntu software repos
[08:28] <stuk_gen> ikonia: if i run an usb image of 12.04 amd64 its freeze on a driver for ethernet R8169, so if there is a way to skip this process maybe i can boot the iamge
[08:28] <stuk_gen> image*
[08:28] <ikonia> cheako: why do you need it to not run networking ?
[08:29] <ikonia> stuk_gen: you can boot with the flag "single"
[08:29] <ikonia> stuk_gen: that will not load any networking services
[08:29] <ikonia> stuk_gen: you can also blacklist the module you don't want
[08:29] <ikonia> !blacklist | stuk_gen
[08:29] <cheako> ikonia: To save DHCP leases :)
[08:29] <stephenh> stuk_gen: really?
[08:29] <stuk_gen> ikonia: but i have only a .iso file
[08:30] <stephenh> lol :/   it's a "link down" bug in fedora in 2010 :/
[08:30] <ikonia> stuk_gen: then you need to burn that iso file to a CD to boot it
[08:30] <stephenh> sorry i can't help
[08:30] <cheako> ikonia: Perhaps the built in network card can't be disabled in the bios and takes down the system when used.
[08:30] <budhacheese> Does anyone have material for me to look at for a first time Ubuntu user? I installed it and not sure how to get apps running or access the console.. ive only managed to see the settings for the desktop (privacy, apperance etc etc)
[08:30] <stephenh> ubuntu is normally solid with hardware drivers/compatibility
[08:30] <ikonia> cheako: why are you telling me this ?
[08:30] <ikonia> budhacheese: https://help.ubuntu.com
[08:30] <cheako> Linux supports stranger workarounds for things.
[08:31] <ikonia> budhacheese: an excellent official resource
[08:31] <budhacheese> thanks ikonia on my way
[08:31] <ikonia> cheako: what are you talking about ?
[08:31] <stuk_gen> ikonia: i using universal usb to create image on usb driver, so i lunch image using tab to add option and what i have to do for using flag single?
[08:31] <bluebomber> In 12.04 I'm getting a segmentation fault while trying to execute # dpkg --configure grub-pc. Can anyone help?
[08:31] <ShadowFios> Is there any way to change the top/menu bar?
[08:31] <oddhack> Question from a newb about contributing to the help.ubuntu.com wiki: I just found a weird corner case interaction between flashplugin and ALSA configuration files that reliably causes 11.1 and 11.2 to crash.
[08:32] <cheako> ikonia: Why ask why, either you know the answer or you don't.  I've got answers to your questions.
[08:32] <ikonia> stuk_gen: when you see the boot line, there is an option for "options" or "boot options" or "extra options2 (I can't remember the exact wroding), append the line "single" to the end
[08:32] <ikonia> cheako: I don't know what question you're asking
[08:32] <stuk_gen> ikonia: yes i'm here ok i'm trying add single
[08:32] <ikonia> cheako: I was responding to stuk_gen gens question.
[08:32] <oddhack> It is not an ALSA bug (AFAICT) and maybe should be documented in the wiki - would be OK to add the workaround to the RestrictedFormats/Flash page?
[08:33] <cheako> ikonia: I can't agree there should be a way to disable networking on boot?
[08:33] <ShadowFios> Is there any way to change the top/menu bar?
[08:33] <minta> please give me a way to wipe bad sectors on Drive c
[08:33] <Psyclonic> ikonia : i tried installing it through kpackagekit, and got this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1022729/
[08:33] <ikonia> cheako: what ? I've just told him how to do it, he has the answer
[08:34] <ikonia> Psyclonic: first things first, what distro are you using ?
[08:34] <smurfy> this irc is a mess
[08:34] <smurfy> :|
[08:34] <cheako> ikonia: I made that boot option up.
[08:34] <leila> owpsee
[08:34] <freshinstall> hi, how can I install a window list onto Gnome3 ?
[08:34] <Psyclonic> ikonia : kubuntu
[08:34] <Reza2222> please give me a way to wipe bad sectors on Drive c
[08:34] <ikonia> cheako: I told him how to do it
[08:34] <jennie> hello friends i want to change file explorer view to LIST in 12.04 please tell how to do that please
[08:34] <leila> #owpsee
[08:34] <ikonia> Reza2222: this is your last warning
[08:34] <ikonia> Reza2222: no more warnings will be given
[08:34] <ikonia> Reza2222: ask in the mint support resources
[08:34] <ikonia> Reza2222: NOT ubuntu
[08:35] <freshinstall> jennie, the "view" menu
[08:35] <ikonia> Psyclonic: ok, so the software you want, is it in the official ubuntu repos ?
[08:35] <Psyclonic> ikonia : I believe it is
[08:35] <ikonia> Psyclonic: ok, can you give me a minte to check it in the repos
[08:36] <ikonia> Psyclonic: ok, I don't see it in the repos, have you added any external/3rd party repos ?
[08:36] <Psyclonic> ikonia : no sweat
[08:36] <Psyclonic> ikonia : yes
[08:36] <ikonia> Psyclonic: which ones ?
[08:37] <cheako> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[08:37] <Psyclonic> ikonia : i am not sure, are you talking about software sources?
[08:37] <jennie> freshinstall how to unhide top side option file, menu , view edit etc i want them to appear all time
[08:37] <ikonia> Psyclonic: sure,
[08:37] <hero> chromium is core dumping on my ubuntu install. If someone can help, here's the strace log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1022731/
[08:37] <ikonia> hero: core dump, you'll need to log a bug
[08:37] <K-4U> Hay.. why can't i choose a shortcut for my Super key? It binds it, but when i try to use it, it just types the key as if i didn't press my super..
[08:37] <Psyclonic> ikonia : I dont know which ones
[08:38] <ikonia> Psyclonic: could you pastebin the files you have in /etc/apt/sources.list.d please.
[08:38] <freshinstall> jennie, don't know that.  I've switched to gnome3 instead of unity
[08:38] <antarus> anyone know where the interaction between ifup and dhclient comes in on Ubuntu?
[08:38] <bluebomber>  In 12.04 I'm getting a segmentation fault while trying to execute # dpkg --configure grub-pc. Can anyone help?
[08:38] <freshinstall> jennie, gnome3 shows the menus like "normal"
[08:38] <ikonia> bluebomber: I assume you are using sudo
[08:39] <hero> ikonia: it could be something that I had messed around with some time back. Not sure if it's a ubuntu bug by itself.
[08:39] <bluebomber> ikonia: Yes, that's what the "#" prompt represents. I can copy/paste the entire output for you, if you'd like.
[08:39] <jennie> how do i check i have gnome or unity i have 12.04
[08:39] <intrapata> hi guys just want to ask,what program ubuntu 12.04 using "the multiple window  " , i also wan to use it on my lubuntu ,, thanks in advance
[08:39] <ikonia> hero: you'll still need to log a bug, can't really analyise coredumps on the fly
[08:40] <ikonia> bluebomber: no the # doesn't represent you typing "sudo"
[08:40] <bluebomber> ikonia: It does mean I'm running the command as root.
[08:40] <hero> ikonia: sure, will do that then.
[08:40] <ikonia> bluebomber: how are you running it as root ? the root account is disabled
[08:40] <Psyclonic> ikonia : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1022736/
[08:40] <ikonia> Psyclonic: let me review now
[08:40] <bluebomber> ikonia: Ummmm, even if you don't enable it, you can always do "sudo su"
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> hero: if you rename ~/.config/chromium   then run the browser, is it ok?
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> bluebomber: sudo -i     is advised, if you must
[08:41] <bluebomber> ikonia: I don't think that matters here, though. What matters is that command is being run with root privileges, as it should.
[08:41] <ShadowFios> just type $ su and it will ask you for the root password
[08:41] <ikonia> bluebomber: ok, I'll leave you to it
[08:41] <ikonia> ShadowFios: there is no root password
[08:41] <Psyclonic> ikonia : ok
[08:41] <ikonia> Psyclonic: are you running natty ?
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> ShadowFios: the account is disabled by default, as it should be
[08:41] <bluebomber> ikonia: If you can help, I'd welcome your help.
[08:42] <ikonia> bluebomber: sorry, you know what you're doing with sudo su, I'm helping others
[08:42] <hero> ActionParsnip: I have tried that but doesn't help. It is more likely to be worse than configuration files as I had removed some gnome files earlier and may be missing some libraries or such.
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> hero: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[08:43] <ShadowFios> ActionParsnip: well then somehow I enabled it. how do I disiable it?
[08:43] <bluebomber> ikonia: That wasn't my issue, though. Configuring grub-pc in dpkg is segfaulting. :-(
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> ShadowFios: sudo passwd -dl root
[08:43] <jennie> how do i create shortcut of my computer or partitions at dekstop ?
[08:43] <bluebomber> ikonia: If something comes to your mind, please just let me know.
[08:44] <ikonia> bluebomber: I know what you're issue is
[08:44] <alankila> bluebomber: at the very least try to narrow it down, open /var/lib/dpkg/info/grub-pc.whateverscriptitisexecuting and try to execute the commands yourself in the same sequence until you hit segfault or something
[08:44] <bluebomber> Thank you, alankila.
[08:44] <Psyclonic> ikonia : yes
[08:44] <Psyclonic> ikonia : do i need to upgrade
[08:45] <ikonia> Psyclonic: no no, not at all
[08:45] <alankila> I'm sorry to say, the postinst script of grub-pc is very long and complicated.
[08:46] <ikonia> Psyclonic: the repo's you are using are designed for natty, so I was just checking you are using natty
[08:46] <hero> ActionParsnip: precise
[08:46] <cheako> alankila: Place -x in it's shabang(the first line)
[08:46] <alankila> yes, that should help narrowing out the command that segfaults
[08:46] <alankila> was just looking for that
[08:47] <jennie> help
[08:47] <jennie>  how do i create shortcut of my computer or partitions at dekstop ?
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> hero: does it do the same as a fresh ubuntu user?
[08:47] <alankila> cheako: got that, bluebomber: put -x on the postinst script and let it print the commands as it runs, you'll find the command that segfaults, that helps determining the cause
[08:47] <hero> ActionParsnip: I'll try that once and report
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> jennie: you can create a shortcut to a mount point. Do you want easier access to your data?
[08:48] <jennie> yes
[08:48] <jennie> it is refusing to create  shortcut also darg and drop aint working
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> jennie: where is the partition mounted?
[08:48] <jennie> rror while copying "1.0 TB Hard Disk: 300GB".
[08:48] <bluebomber> alankila: Thank you.
[08:48]  * alankila wonders why bash -x is not documented in the man page... or if it is, I can't find it
[08:48] <cheako> jennie: I'd just make bookmarks.
[08:49] <Psyclonic> ikonia : why aren't the dependencies installing or being recognized
[08:49] <ikonia> Psyclonic: I'm thinking (trying to check now but it's a big long winded) that some of your external repos are conflicting a little bit
[08:50] <jennie> can not open mountable FIle is error
[08:50] <yuka> guys, i have 4 pc's in a lobby where i offer them to people who come visiting our organisation and check abit email and internet.. untill now i ran some windows on it, but it sux machines are old, and dont have lot resources, i setup ubuntu on one of them to see if i can gain performance, and using lxde i got some better load. but i want to disable users to use anything but few desktop icons i made for them. how is that possible to do?
[08:50] <ikonia> Psyclonic: eg: repo1 provides version 1 that your application needs, repo2 provides version 2 that is a conflict, so when you do apt-get install, it sees version 2 as the latest available and creates a conflict
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> jennie: where is the file system mounted?
[08:50] <Psyclonic> oh
[08:51] <ikonia> Psyclonic: get it ?
[08:51] <cheako> yuka: apparmor comes to mind.
[08:51] <alankila> yuka: what you want is generally called kiosk mode. Not sure what the quality of support is across DEs, I heard KDE at least does that optionally.
[08:51] <yuka> well i have setup the kubuntu and lxde
[08:52] <yuka> lightweight desktop environment
[08:52] <Psyclonic> ikonia : i think
[08:52] <Psyclonic> ikonia : it makes sense
[08:52] <lloowen> Hello all! A noob question. I'm running a basic Ubuntu install without X server, just command line only. Is it possible to have sound working when not using X server?
[08:52] <ikonia> Psyclonic: I'm just trying to check those PPA's (don't have an ubuntu machine to hand so it's a bit of an effort)
[08:52] <yuka> which is working better then default ones, or gnome.. , but anybody can still click on start menu and choose terminal or anything
[08:52] <yuka> i wanna disable that, will i be able with apparmor?
[08:53] <qwerty1111111111> lol
[08:53] <cheako> yuka: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1008906
[08:53] <hero> ActionParsnip: it crashes as a fresh user too. Shows core dumped in the terminal.
[08:54] <rysh> lloowen: Yes
[08:54] <alankila> I don't think the apparmor is necessarily the best solution... a strategy to just uninstall unnecessary software or to hide bunch of icons seems like it might suffice
[08:54] <ShadowFios> qwerty1111111111 used to be mint_ (message to the admins)
[08:54] <alankila> 99 % of your clients are not going to do anything but click on the provided icons, so very soft forms of system hardening ought to suffice
[08:54] <qwerty1111111111> no ShadowFios
[08:55] <lloowen> rysh: Thanks.
[08:55] <edlinde> hi all, I have access to a server running Ubuntu. there is a disk with data on it that somehow magically unmounts itself. How do I find this disk and remount it back on?
[08:55] <edlinde> any suggestions?
[08:55] <sevenhills> ShadowFios: ay problems with my nick ?
[08:55] <rysh> lloowen: there are several mp3 players for console only
[08:56] <rysh> lloowen: like mp3blaster
[08:56] <ShadowFios> yea your still the guy having problems with mint and not ubuntu
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> hero: sounds like a bug then
[08:57] <edlinde> anyone?
[08:57] <sevenhills> no having fun ShadowFios myy friends tell me that this site has awesome group of chatters so came to watch no disturbance swear it ok :#
[08:57] <hero> ActionParsnip: am filing a bug then.
[08:58] <Psyclonic> damn morrowind would be the shit on kubuntu
[08:58] <yuka> cheako, but this still allows them to see start menu and click on icons, then AppArmor checks the profile and if its not allowed it gives message unallowed.. whati  want is them to not be able to see those icons that are not allowed (not beeing able to click or see stuff thats not alllowed) i would ideally want just background with few icons .
[08:58] <fidel> edlinde: regarding how to mount - start with reading the 'mount' docu - i.e. via 'man mount' in terminal
[08:58] <ikonia> Psyclonic: it looks like I maybe right, I can't confirm as I've not got an ubuntu box, but it looks like there is a conflict out of the openmw-build-natty ppa
[08:58] <fidel> edlinde: what do you mean by 'find disk'?
[08:59] <cvr> what graphics card / driver combo gives the best experience with unity/gnome-shell?
[08:59] <edlinde> fidel, I mean that there is a disk which has data on it... and I don't know which one it is
[08:59] <sevenhills> ShadowFios: anyways you an op or what in this channel
[08:59] <edlinde> I know its not mounted
[08:59] <Psyclonic> wonder if going to 12.04 would solve it
[08:59] <edlinde> but I need to find what the disk is before I can mount it back on
[08:59] <edlinde> the guys who run the box are missing in action!
[08:59] <ikonia> Psyclonic: well, not with those repos/ppas
[08:59] <ikonia> Psyclonic: those appear to be natty only
[09:00] <ShadowFios> No but I am trying to moderate as best I can regardless.
[09:00] <ikonia> Psyclonic: you'd have to remove those repos, remove anything from those repos, upgrade to 12.04, then find the 12.04 versions of those repos
[09:00] <geirha> edlinde: If it has an fstab entry, just do sudo mount /path/to/mountpoint
[09:00] <cheako> yuka: use alacart to edit the menus.
[09:00] <K-4U> What must i do to map my Super key? Right now it just acts as if i didn'tpress it
[09:01] <bluebomber> alankila: It looks like grub-mkconfig is segfaulting.
[09:01] <ShadowFios> Is there any way to change the top/menu bar?
[09:02] <alankila> bluebomber: good, you can probably replicate the bug by just executing the command from the command line, so you can now strace -f it maybe, try to gather clues where the segfault arises, or something such.
[09:02] <alankila> hey wait grub-mkconfig is shell script too
[09:02] <alankila> so add -x to that also
[09:02] <jolaren> I'
[09:03] <jolaren> I've followed a guide to install playsms on my server but when I browse my ip and /playsms/ I download the php file directly.. not viewed.. what is werong?
[09:03] <jennie> hello i am unable to drag and drop application icons from left side bar to dekstop in 12.04
[09:04] <K-4U> What must i do to map my Super key? Right now it just acts as if i didn'tpress it
[09:04] <mino> hi guys maybe somebody can help me , i have 2 questions :
[09:04] <rysh> jolaren: Seems you not have installed PHP
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> mino: ask away
[09:04] <Psyclonic> ikonia : how long would that take? Would a disc install of 12.04 do it
[09:05] <mino> i have 2 questions 1st one : what can i do if mi kind of distro do not apears  into unetbootin
[09:05] <mino> ?
[09:05] <Onixs> hmmm
[09:05] <Onixs> extundelete doest play nice on 12.0.4
[09:05] <bluebomber> alankila: OK, great, now I see it's grub-probe that's segfaulting, and that's _not_ a script. :-s
[09:06] <alankila> bluebomber: progress. that might be strace-able
[09:06] <alankila> so you might get some kind of notion of where in the probe things go wrong
[09:07] <ShadowFios> Is there any way to change the top/menu bar?(specifically the mail sub-menu)
[09:07] <Markus__> how do you troll?
[09:07] <Markus__> i am trying to learn how to troll can anyone teach me plz
[09:08] <NielsMkn> hello everyone
[09:08] <NielsMkn> is it possible to hibernate without swap partition?
[09:08] <Markus__> no
[09:08] <NielsMkn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation-in-12-04
[09:08] <NielsMkn> oh
[09:08] <Markus__> defenetly not
[09:09] <NielsMkn> so can I create a swap partition after I have installed ubuntu 12.04?
[09:09] <NielsMkn> or does it have to be done during the installation only?
[09:09] <Markus__> you can but it wont hibernate
[09:09] <mino> hi guys maybe somebody can help me , i have 2 questions : 1st one , what can i do if my kind of distro do not appears into the gui of unetbootin and 2nd one, is it possible to burn it into a sd and not  on a usb that its the way that unetbootin suggests indeed?
[09:09] <llutz> NielsMkn: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6769/hibernate-to-a-swap-file
[09:10] <Markus__> no not possibl
[09:10] <NielsMkn> :((
[09:11] <llutz> Markus__: you can stop now
[09:11] <Markus__> what
[09:11] <llutz> NielsMkn: follow the link, read the howto linked there, try it
[09:11] <NielsMkn> oh ok thanks llutz :)
[09:12] <Markus__> http://www.google.com
[09:12] <GreekFreak> hi all
[09:12] <Markus__> hiiii
[09:13] <mino> hi guys maybe somebody can help me , i have 2 questions : 1st one , what can i do if my kind of distro do not appears into the gui of unetbootin and 2nd one, is it possible to burn it into a sd and not  on a usb that its the way that unetbootin suggests indeed?
[09:13] <Markus__> no not possible
[09:14] <NielsMkn> llutz, it says I need working hibernation before I follow those steps
[09:14] <dawit> hello everyone!
[09:14] <dawit> Anybody has experience with Zentyal? Where would be a good place to get help?
[09:15] <GreekFreak> I'm using Grub customizer, and after an update 2 days ago, my boot order isn't what I set it to be. I want windows as default, and ubuntu 2nd (since I'm the only one that uses it), and no matter how many times I edit it and save it again (just to trigger something) it won't change the order. Any tips?
[09:15] <K-4U> Nobody who knows this? I need my super key
[09:15] <llutz> NielsMkn: that's why i wrote "try it"
[09:16] <dawit> zentyal firewall?
[09:16] <NielsMkn> :o
[09:16] <llutz> NielsMkn: if you follow the steps carefully, you won't break anything.
[09:17] <NielsMkn> so you are suggesting I skip the first step?
[09:17] <llutz> NielsMkn: skip creating a swapfile? not really
[09:17] <llutz> NielsMkn: read the full howto and try to understand what it suggests to do
[09:17] <NielsMkn> no no
[09:18] <NielsMkn> erm ok
[09:21] <bolosaur> Hey guys. I'm new to Linux (and learning), and I'm wondering if there are any IRC clients that you can run and use persistently from commandline?
[09:21] <ikonia> bolosaur: irssi
[09:21] <llutz> bolosaur: irssi, weechat
[09:21] <bolosaur> Cheers mate.
[09:21] <bolosaur> Which one is better?
[09:21] <tommis> bolosaur: weechat + screen
[09:21] <ShadowFios> i prefer irssi
[09:21] <llutz> bolosaur: try it, decide yourself
[09:21] <bolosaur> Alright.
[09:21] <bolosaur> Which one has been around the longest and has the most features?
[09:21] <bolosaur> If there is such a distinction.
[09:21] <ikonia> bolosaur: just try them
[09:22] <tommis> bolosaur: screen is program that keeps your programs running even if you disconnect
[09:22] <ikonia> bolosaur: see what you like
[09:22] <NielsMkn> its way too complicated :S
[09:22] <bolosaur> ikonia: Well I suck at Linux and can barely get any app up and working
[09:22] <bolosaur> so I'd rather not have to install more than one.
[09:22] <bolosaur> As it will most likely be accompanied by hours of troubleshooting. :D
[09:22] <tommis> bolosaur: try one at te time
[09:22] <tommis> the*
[09:22] <bolosaur> heh
[09:22] <bolosaur> Alright.
[09:22] <bolosaur> Cheers.
[09:22] <ikonia> bolosaur: are you using ubuntu ?
[09:22] <bolosaur> tommis: What do you mean? How does it work?
[09:23] <bolosaur> ikonia: Yeah.
[09:23] <ikonia> bolosaur: check out https://help.ubuntu.com
[09:23] <ikonia> bolosaur: it walks you through the basics of using the OS
[09:23] <bolosaur> ikonia: Well, I do know the basics. It's just that things never seem to work right out of the box with Linux. There's always some weird quirk that needs to be fixedf.
[09:23] <bolosaur> fixed*
[09:24] <bolosaur> And I'm pretty bad at doing so, but I'm trying to learn.
[09:24] <ikonia> bolosaur: if you read/follow that guide for each task you want to do, you should have no problems
[09:24] <Psyclonic> ikonia : so how do i go about changing the repos
[09:24] <ikonia> bolosaur: it will be the best way of learning
[09:24] <ShadowFios> bolosaur: i don't know much about weechat but irssi was as simple as "sudo apt-get install irssi" for me
[09:24] <bolosaur> Heh.
[09:24] <bluebomber> alankila: Getting closer, it looks like grub-probe is segfaulting when trying to read from a mounted drive partition. Do you have any ideas where I go from here? I will say that this drive partition is part of a RAID5 which is currently assembled and mounted, but rebuilding.
[09:24] <bolosaur> ShadowFios: Cool. Thanks.
[09:24] <ikonia> Psyclonic: well, you can't really, what do you mean by changing the repo ?
[09:24] <tommis> bolosaur: screen?
[09:24] <unitedanarchy> Hello
[09:25] <alankila> bluebomber: okay ... well, at this point you have a number of facts to aid you. You know the problematic program, that it relates to raid, and you can acquire the version of grub-pc you can install, and google.
[09:25] <Psyclonic> ikonia : just want to know what to do to get openmw running
[09:25] <ShadowFios> hello unitedanarchy
[09:25] <alankila> bluebomber: you could also try to get the source code and fix the bug, of course
[09:25] <unitedanarchy> I am from the ubuntu forums, I am here looking for some help.
[09:25] <ShadowFios> unitedanarchy: then out with it
[09:25] <bluebomber> Alankila: Google hasn't helped yet, but I'll keep at it. :-(
[09:25] <ikonia> Psyclonic: well, the repo you are using appears to create a conflict
[09:26] <unitedanarchy> Alright well for one
[09:26] <unitedanarchy> I can't start skype
[09:26] <bolosaur> tommis: yeah
[09:26] <ikonia> Psyclonic: the best advice would be to contact the PPA owner and ask him to resolve the conflict
[09:26] <tommis> bolosaur: it is ginda like window manager for your terminal
[09:26] <alankila> bluebomber: out of interest, what version of grub-pc are you trying to install?
[09:26] <Psyclonic> ikonia: i dont know what ppa is
[09:26] <ShadowFios> unitedanarchy: well lets start with the basics. did you try reinstalling?
[09:26] <ikonia> Psyclonic: it's one of the external repos you've added
[09:26] <unitedanarchy> Yes
[09:27] <fidel> !ppa > Psyclonic
[09:27] <ikonia> Psyclonic: "personal package archive" it's unsupported software that's created by people outside of the ubuntu core repos
[09:28] <josep> helo
[09:28] <josep> mi name is
[09:28] <pedro> mi name is polla
[09:28] <fidel> hi josep - how can we help you?
[09:28] <bluebomber> alankila: I don't know and I don't know how to tell you. It's apt-get install grub-pc :-(
[09:28] <alankila> bluebomber: 'dpkg -l grub-pc'
[09:29] <bolosaur> Wow, irssi worked out of hte box.
[09:29] <josep> hello fidel
[09:29] <pedro> hi suck my pick
[09:29] <Psyclonic> how lame
[09:29] <bolosaur> That's a first for me with ubuntu D
[09:29] <bolosaur> :D*
[09:29] <bolosaur> Thanks a lot guys. Really appreciate the help.
[09:29] <alankila> bluebomber: if it's precise, should be 1.99-21ubuntu3.1
[09:29] <bluebomber> 1.99-21ubuntu3
[09:29] <alankila> mm, a small update is available
[09:29] <josep> how can I get a free proxy on ubuntu'
[09:29] <ShadowFios> unitedanarchy: well I cant offer much but did you get the right file (msi is only for windows)
[09:29] <josep> ?
[09:30] <alankila> It's probably not relevant to your problem though. debian changelog says they changed some grub config file syntax a bit
[09:30] <bluebomber> alankila: Can I bug you with just one more question: Do you think it's safe to turn off or reboot my computer in this state?
[09:30] <pedro> some hot girl who wants to fuck
[09:30] <josep> Fidel
[09:31] <pedro> yes or not
[09:31] <pedro> or suck my pick
[09:31] <bluebomber> alankila: I think I found a relevant bug in debian's tracker from 2010, but it says it's been fixed. grub-probe segfaults on systems with RAID5s containing spares. Mine don't have spares, but one is rebuilding.
[09:31] <pedro> oabut
[09:31] <alankila> bluebomber: well ... I have poor experience myself. When grub fails to reinstall on a system, it's often broken on the next boot and you need to boot via CD or some such recovery mechanism
[09:31] <fidel> josep: try to always focus on the channel - not picking random users for your problem/question
[09:31] <pedro> mmm
[09:31] <ivan__> tut russkie est?
[09:31] <pedro> yes
[09:31] <pedro> an you oivan
[09:31] <unitedanarchy> Yes
[09:31] <elky> pedro, stop right now.
[09:31] <fidel> josep: have you checked: System- Preferences -> Network proxy?
[09:31]  * bluebomber sighs
[09:31] <unitedanarchy> I installed it properly
[09:31] <unitedanarchy> It did work at one time
[09:31] <pedro> elky
[09:32] <fidel> !op | pedro
[09:32] <unitedanarchy> I am actually a former Mac user, I am on a macbook with ubuntu on it.
[09:32] <pedro> im sorrry is my cousing
[09:32] <elky> fidel, i am an op. no need to call.
[09:32] <josep> Im in the school and we have proxy, and I want to go to facebook por example
[09:32] <ivan__> u menya ubuntu 12.04 ne vikluchaetsya, chto delat?
[09:32] <pedro> yess
[09:32] <fidel> ivan__: what is your native language?
[09:32] <elky> pedro, then ask the question you joined for.
[09:33] <ivan__> Russian
[09:33] <fidel> !ru > ivan__
[09:33] <ShadowFios> unitedanarchy: just a sec while I cheack out skype's webpage
[09:33] <unitedanarchy> Alright
[09:33] <alankila> bluebomber: this grub stuff might be on the way out anyway because the booting problem is probably migrating to be BIOS's problem. It's frankly ridiculous how complicated it is, but that is because there's all these weird setups these bootloaders try to support
[09:33] <pedro>  have the ubuntu 5.12 but I can not fuck like I do ?¿
[09:33] <fidel> ivan__: this channel here is limited to english only
[09:33] <max> lut
[09:33] <unitedanarchy> For some more information, I have Ubuntu 11.10
[09:34] <max> salut
[09:34] <fidel> pedro: are you just trolling - or as stupid as you act?
[09:34] <Guest8414> salut
[09:34] <vonsar> I have a very slow connection with ubuntu 12.04. Not sure where to start (beginner) can anyone help?
[09:34] <josep> Fidel can you help me please
[09:34] <NielsMkn> hey one more problem
[09:34] <alankila> bluebomber: your other alternatives may be to boot using LILO or try the grub-legacy which should be the grub 1.0 thing until they get grub 2 in working order for your setup
[09:35] <NielsMkn> whenever I try to install multiget via ubuntu software center, it shows failed : check your internet connection
[09:35] <NielsMkn> any idea why this happens?
[09:35] <fidel> josep: try to restate your question as detailed as possible to the channel. until now i just know it is somehow proxy related - but i still dont get the question in detail
[09:35] <ShadowFios> unitedanarchy: ok first of all you should upgarde
[09:35] <fidel> NielsMkn: tried via cli/terminal?
[09:35] <fidel> NielsMkn: if so - whats the output/error?
[09:36] <unitedanarchy> I have a lot of sources in my list
[09:36] <josep> I am in School, and I have proxy so I can't go to webpages like www.facebook.com, can I get a free proxy that helps me to go to that pages?
[09:36] <unitedanarchy> A lot of Ubuntu 11.10 sources
[09:36] <unitedanarchy> Will they update too? Or do I have to do it manually?
[09:36] <unitedanarchy> That is what I am scared of
[09:37] <bluebomber> Alankila: Thanks for all your help. I'm first going to wait until my RAID5 finishes synchronizing, because grub-probe is segfaulting right after an attempted read to the one drive that is only partially synchronized, and it this all sounds similar to a couple debian bugs if that's so, I guess I'll have to ask for one of them to be reopened.
[09:37] <ShadowFios> unitedanarchy: what are the sources?
[09:37] <bluebomber> alankila: I hope installation works after the synchronization finishes!
[09:37] <unitedanarchy> I don't remember
[09:37] <unitedanarchy> Which makes it worse
[09:37] <unitedanarchy> But I have a lot of them
[09:37] <unitedanarchy> Will Ubuntu automatically rewrite the oneiric part with percise?
[09:37] <fidel> josep: if the schoo-network is setup correct and you dont have admin-priviliges i assume you are lost.
[09:38] <unitedanarchy> If not, Is there an application for that?
[09:38] <fidel> josep: as a sideeffect - consider that as a good setting to spend your time on learning and not chatting - even if its sounds boring ;)
[09:38] <ShadowFios> unitedanarchy: well what exactly are these sources doing for you? are they programs?
[09:38] <josep> In my computer i have admin privileges
[09:39] <ShadowFios> oh
[09:39] <unitedanarchy> I think so
[09:39] <unitedanarchy> Games and stuff like that
[09:39] <vonsar> I have a very slow connection with ubuntu 12.04. Not sure where to start (beginner) can anyone help?
[09:39] <Ed_> Hi guys, I could really do with some help - I have an old laptop, and have just sucessfully installed Ubuntu 9.04 but I cannot manage to upgrade to 12.04 - I have burned LiveCDs of both 11.10 and 12.04 and the laptop will not boot them at all, it just goes to a purple splash type screen with a small white logo at the bottom and then stays on a blinking cursor indefinitely?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> vonsar: how do you connect to the web?
[09:39] <fidel> vonsar: you could start with some random pings
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Ed_: what video chip do you use?
[09:40] <ShadowFios> unitedanarchy: you should keep all your programs when you upgrade.just got to your update manager and click 'upgrade'
[09:40] <Ed_> sorry I am not sure which one it is, it is an old HP laptop
[09:40] <ShadowFios> unitedanarchy: it should automatically install 12.04
[09:40] <vonsar> I have a wired connection to a router. A web page takes around 10 seconds to load, 9 seconds of fumbling then loads instantly (ill do some ping tests now)
[09:40] <unitedanarchy> Alright
[09:40] <unitedanarchy> But will the sources upgrade thoguh?
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> Ed_: does it have a model number?
[09:41] <Ed_> HP pavillion ze4400
[09:41] <unitedanarchy> I am not a total noob, But I need to know if the sources will upgrade from oneiric sources to percise sources?
[09:42] <vonsar> The ping tests are very fast - ~20ms
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> Ed_: ATI MOBILITY RADEON (M6) 4X AGP and 3D architecture
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> Ed_: just used the internet to find that out....
[09:42] <Ed_> Sorry I typed in to google and found nothing
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> Ed_: try the boot option:   nomodeset
[09:42] <Ed_> that is an integrated card I assume?
[09:43] <Ed_> I do not have any boot options, and cannot get to a grub menu
[09:43] <ShadowFios> unitedanarchy: Well I don't know the answer to that question because im not really sure what you mean by sources. so ill just pass you on to someont who knows more than me. like ActionParsnip.
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> Ed_: its a video chip on the motherboard, yes. Very common in laptops
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> Ed_: you do
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> Ed_: just because you don't know how to do it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist
[09:43] <unitedanarchy> Sources, As in PPAs
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | Ed_
[09:43] <unitedanarchy> Software Sources
[09:43] <unitedanarchy> You know
[09:46] <codeshepherd> : anyone familiar with chef.. i want to install rcconf.. don't find any cookbook for the same. should i write one or is there a generic cookbook that takes are of one line apt-get install commands?
[09:47] <sample> ciao
[09:47] <Ed_> That purple splash screen showed on that link appears, with the little man in the circle, but it will not allow me to select any options, or even show them at the bottom
[09:47] <sample> !lista
[09:47] <ShadowFios> wellwith my very small knowledge of how this all works It should all automatically update.And if it doesnt then when you enter the program it will tell you, that you need to reinstall that,
[09:49] <ShadowFios> soory I could'nt really help.
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Ed_: try holding SHIFT at boot
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> i wush they would get rid of grub hideing by default. or at least show a msg.... 'hold shift for options.... .'
[09:51] <sample> ciao
[09:51] <sample> !lista
[09:52] <Ed_> The GRUB will not load on holding shift, it just locks it onto the ISOLINUX screen
[09:53] <Ed_> in fact pressing any keys appears to lock whatever the current screen is
[09:53] <wooy> Hi,
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> moo
[09:54] <wooy> I had problems to install sun java on 12.04. Should i try 10.04 or just give openjdk a try?
[09:55] <Lady-Tux> Dr_Willis is there a way i can ignore all private messages!? it's so annoying :(
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> 12.04 java works here wooy
[09:55] <wooy> sun's java?
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> lady depends on your urc cliect i belive
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> oracls latest java
[09:56] <gklwilliam> Hello everybody
[09:56] <wooy> hmm ok thx
[09:56] <Lady-Tux> i think u told me something *!*@ am i right!?
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> ive never said anythung on this
[09:57] <Lady-Tux> oOps sorry
[09:57] <Lady-Tux> btw it's me Fat-Thing :)
[09:58] <Lady-Tux> i'm using my big sister's netbook and i'm new to mIRC app i'm used to XChat haha
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> xchat is avail for wundows
[09:59] <fidel> silverex is the name for the free xchat builds for windows afaik
[09:59] <Ed_> As the LiveCDs won't boot on my laptop - is there any way to upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04 from 9.04?
[09:59] <jolaren> I can't find my cellphone in lsusb.. It's a nokia 5140i.. lsusb shows nothing
[09:59] <Dr_Willis>  are several xchats for windows now
[10:01] <point> hi
[10:01] <point> have problem with kubuntu 12.04 and notifier-update
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> jolaren: when you connect it, run:  dmesg | tail    after a few seconds, should show if it's detected. Have you tried other ports too?
[10:02] <point> when I astart system and log into profile ... get information that are new updates by notifier-update
[10:02] <point> but when i will click on it to install ne update i get black box on 70% screen
[10:02] <jolaren> ActionParsnip: Yes, the error given is : [ 3428.988036] usb 2-4: device not accepting address 55, error -62
[10:02] <jolaren> [ 3428.988472] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 4
[10:03] <point> and only close notify-update from task bar help
[10:03] <point> I was reinstalled this notifier pacage buts still have a problem with it
[10:03] <gvo> Ed_: Do you have a broadcom wireless card in your laptop?
[10:04] <Ed_> Not integrated gvo - i have a removeable Belkin card, which I have tried with and without
[10:05] <gvo> ed_: OK, I know there are problems with the b43 drivers at 12.04.  Can you tell where it stops booting?
[10:06] <Ed_> Yeah - without any button presses it goes first to some small white text, a purple square with just a keyboard/man logo and then it goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor
[10:08] <vonsar> can anyone recommend a good FTP client for ubuntu?
[10:08] <gvo> Ed_: And blinks forever, eh?  Edit the boot line and remove the quiet and splash and try again, you might be able to see what's holding things up.
[10:09] <ecolitan> filezilla
[10:09] <gvo> vonsar: Filezilla works great for me
[10:09] <Ed_> Yeah blinks forever - unfortunately I cannot get to the GRUB menu to edit anything
[10:09] <vonsar> thanks, I should have known filezilla would probably work!
[10:09] <crizis> vonsar: you can also just use nautilus
[10:09] <gvo> Ed_: Why?
[10:09] <crizis> file -> connect to server
[10:09] <Ed_> I have tried holding SHIFT and pressing F6 and ESC etc
[10:09] <Ed_> and it just locks up the screen, I have no idea why it will not run properly
[10:09] <tarsis> What could I do when I can't resolve some addresses (e.g. on blogspot) and some pages lack the css and images?
[10:09] <kernelpanic_> hello everyone
[10:10] <Ed_> I have tried two seperate LiveCDs
[10:10] <vonsar> crizis: oh really? know of any good websites to learn about the commands?
[10:10] <crizis> vonsar: not much commands there.. just select Connect to server from the menu :)
[10:10] <ecolitan> tarsis: what do you mean "can't resolve some addresses"
[10:11] <kernelpanic_> who finds 12.04 login screen laggy?
[10:11] <gvo> Ed_:  I've never known the shift key hold not working.
[10:11] <vonsar> crizis: is nautilus on ubuntu if im using unity?
[10:11] <Ed_> will accessing the GRUB in Ubuntu 9.04 help for loading a 12.04 liveCD?
[10:12] <gvo> Ed_: Not that I know of.
[10:12] <tarsis> ping googleblog.blogspot.com
[10:12] <tarsis> ping: unknown host googleblog.blogspot.com
[10:12] <Ed_> Hmmm, I have treid 12.04 and 11.10 and no luck, is there any other way to upgrade 9.04?
[10:13] <ecolitan> tarsis: and some things are resolvable and others are not?
[10:13] <crizis> vonsar: yes, it's the file manager :)
[10:13] <auronandace> Ed_: 9.04 uses grub1, 9.10 and above uses grub2
[10:13] <gvo> Ed_: You could try changing the sources.lst file but if things don't go well, you'd need to boot a live cd to get it back working.
[10:13] <anoop_> please help me to install canon mf 4412 scanner?
[10:14] <Ed_> Where would that be found?  sorry I am new to Ubuntu
[10:14] <tarsis> ecolitan: exactly
[10:14] <ecolitan> tarsis: what are your dns servers set to?
[10:14] <Ed_> Or do you think I should try a different Distro?
[10:14] <gvo> Ed_: If you wanted to go to the work, you could build your own live cd with the boot params remove.
[10:14] <auronandace> Ed_: you'd be better off with a fresh install, 9.04 is not supported anymore
[10:14] <gvo> ed_: I'd be tempted to try a Fedora live cd just to see what happens.
[10:15] <usr13> does find work on ntfs ?
[10:15] <gvo> auronandace: He can't get a live or install cd to boot.
[10:15] <anoop_> my printer canon mf 4412 is working only print but not work in scanner in ubuntu 11.10
[10:15] <Ed_> I installed 9.04 with a LiveCD
[10:15] <Ed_> but any later and no luck
[10:15] <gvo> Ed_: grub1 vs grub2 maybe.
[10:15] <kernelpanic_> who finds 12.04 login screen laggy?
[10:15] <tommis> Ed_: what happens with newer versions?
[10:16] <tarsis> ecolitan: I pasted them from another (win) computer where all's fine
[10:16] <tarsis> 212.111.0.10, 88.146.205.2
[10:16] <Ed_> Tommis, It goes to the purple splash with keyboard and little man, and then a blinking cursor forever
[10:16] <Silent> Hello
[10:16] <tommis> Ed_: what graphics card you have?
[10:17] <Silent> Guys, I'm runnign "Xorg -xonfigure"
[10:17] <Ed_> ATI MOBILITY RADEON (M6) 4X AGP and 3D architecture
[10:17] <Silent> And it says teh the number of detected screens does not patch the number of detected devices. What does that mean?
[10:17] <anoop_> please any one to healp me to how install canon mf4412 scanner in ubuntu 11.10
[10:18] <tommis> Ed_: have you tried switching to tty session?
[10:18] <kernelpanic_> silent-do you find 12.04 login screen laggy?
[10:18] <larmbr> hi all .what difference  is between "locate -b" and "locate -w", I did a experiment  but it made me more perplexed...
[10:18] <tommis> ctrl+alt+ some of the F keys
[10:18] <Silent> How am I supposed to know
[10:18] <anoop_> please healp me to how to install ism malayalam typing tool in ubuntu ? is it is possible
[10:18] <Ed_> What is a tty session?
[10:18] <Silent> I'm using 11
[10:19] <auronandace> !nomodeset | Ed_
[10:19] <tommis> Ed_ ctrl+alt+ some of the F keys
[10:19] <kernelpanic_> are you running 12.04?
[10:19] <ecolitan> tarsis: do you have dnsutils installed ?
[10:19] <Silent> No
[10:19] <kernelpanic_> oh ok sorry
[10:19] <Naphatul> what do i need to make the custom partitions? i made a 4gb /swap 10gb / and a 20gb /home, but when i installed it it doesn't boot into ubuntu
[10:19] <tommis> Ed_: normal terminal
[10:19] <Naphatul> what partition does the mbr need to be on/
[10:19] <Ed_> Unfortuantely I cannot get to any boot options or GRUB menu to adjust nomodeset
[10:19] <tarsis> ecolitan: no I don't
[10:19] <Onixs_> does extundelete support ext4
[10:20] <Ed_> so when would I press those keys Tommis?
[10:20] <gvo> ed_: you are holding the shift key down while it boots?  Not just press and release?
[10:20] <ecolitan> tarsis: install the package, then you can do some tests
[10:20] <anoop_> tommis: ubuntu have work in malayalam ism
[10:20] <Ed_> yes, i have held it down from before the power button, and from the Bios, and from after bios
[10:20] <Ed_> none will get me to grub
[10:20] <usr13> Silent: Was that for me?
[10:21] <Silent> No
[10:21] <Ed_> perhaps I should download Linux Mint or other and see if they work?
[10:21] <gvo> ed_: Since Mint is based on Ubuntu, I suspect you'll not be able to do that.  Try Fedora.
[10:22] <Ed_> Okay, how does that vary out of interest?
[10:22] <Ed_> I will set that to download
[10:22] <auronandace> gvo: shift is for grub2, i think esc is for grub1
[10:22] <gvo> 12.04 uses grub2 doesn't it?
[10:22] <tarsis> ecolitan: sorry, if this means nslookup and dig, I have already tried them
[10:22] <auronandace> gvo: yes
[10:22] <tommis> Ed_: when it's booted
[10:22] <gvo> OK that's what he's trying to boot.
[10:22] <auronandace> gvo: ahh, sorry
[10:23] <gvo> np
[10:23] <Jancoover> ##english
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> gvo: grub2 has been default for ages now :)
[10:23] <tommis> Ed_: maybe just X server is failing (graphical mode thingy)
[10:23] <ecolitan> tarsis: dig @212.111.0.10 your.unresolvable.domain a
[10:23] <gvo> ActionParsnip: I know.
[10:23] <ecolitan> tarsis: dig @8.8.8.8 your.unresolvable.domain a
[10:24] <gvo> ActionParsnip: auronandace had me questioning that knowledge, however.
[10:24] <tarsis> tarsis:  QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
[10:25] <auronandace> !grub2
[10:25] <sample> ciao
[10:25] <sample> lista
[10:26] <tarsis> ecolitan: from 8.8.8.8 I have  QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
[10:26] <sample> ciao
[10:26] <sample> !lista
[10:27] <yidden> it's supposed to do 1600x1200 @60hz, 1280x1024 @75Hz and 1024x768 @85Hz, but currently it wants to run 16x12 at 65Hz which the monitor doesn't like at all
[10:27] <ecolitan> tarsis: what specific domain did you try?
[10:28] <yidden> oops
[10:28] <tarsis> googleblog.blogspot.com
[10:28] <abhilash> Hi
[10:28] <jennie> hello friends please help me in locating Adobe flash cache folder where adobe  copied flash video in 12.04, i tried firefox cache folder but it is not there please help
[10:29] <abhilash> Does anyone know about HPDP backup system support Ubuntu OS?
[10:29] <abhilash> Does anyone know about HPDP backup system support Ubuntu OS?
[10:29] <abhilash> Does anyone know about HPDP backup system support Ubuntu OS?
[10:29] <abhilash> Does anyone know about HPDP backup system support Ubuntu OS?
[10:29] <FloodBot1> abhilash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:29] <ecolitan> tarsis: dig +short @8.8.8.8 googleblog.blogspot.com a
[10:30] <oooaaaoooo> hi guys I just installed linux mint 13 on my x220 and the battery discharges but doesnt charge i.e. it maintains the last discharge level. I know this isnt the mint chat but there isnt any response from the mint chatroom. Can someone help me?
[10:30] <auronandace> !mint | oooaaaoooo
[10:30] <crizis> oooaaaoooo: this is NOT a mint support channel
[10:31] <Ed_> Cheers for your help guys, I will give a few other Distros a bash and see what I can do until I get a new laptop
[10:32] <gvo> Ed_: Sorry I couldn't be of much help  Good luck
[10:33] <gvo> oooaaaoooo: Try the Mint forums.
[10:33] <tarsis> ecolitan: QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
[10:33] <safebin> What are the min. specs for Ubuntu? Unity seems to struggle on every PC/Laptop I have used
[10:33] <EtgarDizz> hello
[10:34] <EtgarDizz> anyone know a tabbed pdf viewer? dont wanna use wine for this...
[10:34] <ecolitan> tarsis: if you're unable to get a respose from 8.8.8.8, its probably a firewall somewhere
[10:34] <EtgarDizz> using 12.04
[10:34] <gvo> safebin: if you aren't attached to unity you might try lubuntu
[10:34] <gvo> safebin: It's lighter weight.
[10:35] <safebin> the thing is I have a decent spec'd laptop and desktop and every time I've tried it, it is *bleh* - And I want to use it...
[10:36] <gvo> safebin: I refused to run it, so I can't help
[10:36] <tarsis> ecolitan: where could I find some firewall settings?
[10:36] <safebin> what is your DE of choice?
[10:37] <gvo> I run Mint and 10.04.  When I'm force off of 10.04 I'll go mint exclusively.
[10:37] <gvo> forced
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> EtgarDizz: why would you need wine?
[10:38] <ecolitan> tarsis: before going that way, pastebin the output of: dig @8.8.8.8 googleblog.blogspot.com a; dig googleblog.blogspot.com a; cat /etc/resolv.conf
[10:38] <safebin> I enjoy Mint - But than a DVD with Ubuntu bought me back with a little hope and it was a big mistake. time to go back again I think
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> gvo: why mint?
[10:39] <EtgarDizz> ActionParsnip, that's cos most things i've found online suggest using Foxit reader throught wine, cos the linuxy version is buggy
[10:39] <safebin> ecolitan: safebin.net - the original pastebin
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> EtgarDizz: what pdf viewers have you tried?
[10:39] <gvo> ActionParsnip: I hate unity, kde4 and gnome 3, mostly.
[10:39] <tarsis> ecolitan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1022866/
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> gvo: tried LXDE?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> gvo: or: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/
[10:40] <EtgarDizz> ActionParsnip: foxit for linux, evince, okular, xpdfepdfviewer
[10:41] <EtgarDizz> *xpdf, epdfviewer
[10:41] <gvo> ActionParsnip: Yes, lxde  has a couple of deficiencies and I didn't know bout the other one.
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> EtgarDizz: evince has tabs
[10:41] <gvo> EtgarDizz: acroread has tabs.
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> gvo: its simple to get the Gnome2 smell in Precise
[10:42] <VictorCL> hi
[10:42] <oooaaaoooo> has anybody experienced charging problems running ubuntu 12.04 on a lenovo x220 laptop?
[10:42] <VictorCL> anyone can recomend me a good editor for ubuntu , kind of like notepadd++ .. designed for programning languages?
[10:42] <gvo> ActionParsnip: Since Gnome2 is eol, that's not a good long term solution.
[10:42] <EtgarDizz> ActionParsnip, how do u activate tabs on evince?
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> gvo: it's not Gnome2, It's gnome3 with a different shell
[10:42] <ecolitan> tarsis: so, you can resolve the domain using 8.8.8.8 as nameserver, your local resolution was unable to resolve it. Someone here know how best to add a DNS nameserver in Ubuntu?
[10:42] <tellone> how do I check my glibc version?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> EtgarDizz: just open another PDF in it and it should work
[10:43] <chu> VictorCL: There are a few, geany, gedit, emacs, vim, etc.
[10:43] <gvo> ActionParsnip: OK I'll look into it.
[10:43] <chu> VictorCL: What are you after in particular? Might make the list smaller.
[10:43] <gvo> ActionParsnip: thanks
[10:43] <EtgarDizz> ActionParsnip, I'm doing that, and it just opens more and more windows...
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> EtgarDizz: seems its just an idea: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/item/15899/
[10:44] <VictorCL> something to edit php , javascript , html and sql files
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> VictorCL: gedit
[10:44] <chu> VictorCL: You'll probably be fine with either gedit or geany
[10:44] <safebin> VictorCL, geany all the way
[10:44] <EtgarDizz> ActionParsnip, yes, i've seen that request :) any other ideas?
[10:44] <fidel> VictorCL: one additional editor is sublime - but keep an look on the license situation in this special case
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> EtgarDizz: have you tried the adobe PDF reader?
[10:45] <VictorCL> yea hgedit is too simple ,
[10:45] <gvo> VictorCL: Also don't ignore Kate.
[10:45] <VictorCL> with check kate
[10:45] <chu> VictorCL: Look into Geany, it's like gedit++
[10:45] <VictorCL> think havent tried it
[10:46] <gvo> VictorCL: out of the box it's a easy to learn simple editor, but with a little tuning it's a great editor.  See the blurb at http://lifehacker.com/5911460/the-best-programming-text-editor-for-linux
[10:46] <EtgarDizz> ActionParsnip, i've tried it, but i am looking for something more OS and less proprietary :) also it's bulky and convoluted in my opinion, that's why i like evince
[10:47] <tarsis> ecolitan: I tried to add a line in the /etc/resolv.conf (just in a text editor) file but it didn't seem to help
[10:48] <EtgarDizz> another question: how/where do you modify the list of available applications? (when you choose "open with another application...")
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> EtgarDizz: surely its sleeker than wine + windows app.....
[10:48] <drecute> my ubuntu installation is on a LAN configured on it is email server, likewise-open, NFS, autofs. Sometimes it refuses to ping other computers as well as refuse connections from other computers. What could possibly be the problem?
[10:48] <ecolitan> tarsis: do not edit /etc/resolv.conf by hand
[10:48] <safebin> any php devs in here?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> ecolitan: you can, the contents will just change if a connection recieves DHCP :)
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> safebin: try #php
[10:49] <hammommah_> my hdd is on the blink :( got a new one. i currently have ubuntu and win 7 installed on hdd can i use dd to copy entire hdd content over? or am i looking at reinstall.....ubuntu easy windows, what a stuff around :( any clue on clonezilla?
[10:49] <tarsis> ecolitan: should  I try it another way?
[10:49] <ecolitan> ActionParsnip: yes and when you reboot too
[10:49] <safebin> ActionParsnip, Cannot join #php (Channel is invite only)
[10:49] <EtgarDizz> ActionParsnip, i agree :) that's why i was looking for something more lightweight like evince, just that supports tabs
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> ecolitan: same difference
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> safebin: then you will need to be identified
[10:51] <ecolitan> what is the best way to permanently add nameservers to resolv.conf ?
[10:51] <LjL> it's ##php anyway
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> ecolitan: modify network manager
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> ecolitan: set the interface to dhcp (address only) then you can set the DNS servers
[10:52] <EtgarDizz> anyone? how to change the list of available applications?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> EtgarDizz: I believe the text in the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications dictates that stuff
[10:53] <safebin> Ahhh... did it lol
[10:53] <hammommah_> anyone know a good hdd benchmarker??
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> hammommah_: for what?
[10:54] <fidel> hammommah_: what do you want to benchmark?
[10:54] <hammommah_> hdd read/write speeds
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> hammommah_: sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda
[10:55] <hammommah_> cheers
[10:59] <lexxmt> hi
[10:59] <hammommah_> Timing cached reads:     2 MB in 28.05 seconds =  73.01 kB/sec lmao
[10:59] <lexxmt> I need little help with Ubuntu 12.04
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> lexxmt: give details and we can try and help :)
[11:00] <yacc> Any idea if there is a PPA for Qt 4.7 for 10.04LTS?
[11:00] <lexxmt> I able boot into kernel 3.2.0.23, but if I try boot into 3.2.0-24 I get kernel panic, init missing
[11:00] <lexxmt> how I can recover 3.2.0-24?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> lexxmt: try:   sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-3.2.0-24-generic
[11:01] <drecute> how do I disable iptables on reboot?
[11:02] <lexxmt> thanks, try reboot
[11:04] <tellone> Is there a general way to check versions of a lib or glib file?
[11:06] <_jeet> Hi ActionParsnip
[11:06] <drecute> how do I disable iptables on reboot?
[11:06] <angs> how to see the password of the access point that I am connected
[11:06] <_jeet> i observed a odd behaviour with my Network manager on 12.04
[11:07] <tellone> !lib | me
[11:08] <iceroot> drecute: why you want to disable it?
[11:09] <drecute> iceroot: it's giving me a lot of headache like i can't ping other computers on my network
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> tellone: dpkg -l | grep something
[11:09] <iceroot> angs: nm-connection-editor   there you should be able to edit the connection and also see the password
[11:09] <hammommah_> wow old hdd = Timing cached reads:   18098 MB in  1.99 seconds = 9074.56 MB/sec new hdd = Timing cached reads:     2 MB in 28.05 seconds =  73.01 kB/sec............surely that cant be right?
[11:09] <drecute> also other computers cannot access it
[11:09] <drecute> iceroot: most importantly, it is obstructing dovecot and my domain users from authenticating
[11:10] <angs> iceroot: thanks
[11:10] <iceroot> drecute: output of "sudo iptables --list"?
[11:10] <iceroot> !paste | drecute
[11:10] <iceroot> !blacklist | drecute
[11:10] <iceroot> drecute: but i dont think blacklisting iptables is a good idea
[11:11] <nonuby> how long after firefox 13 is released will ubuntu 12.04 show it in update center, i.e. will it be available tomorrow night/
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> nonuby: there may be a ppa with it..
[11:12] <PC-X69> sdaf
[11:12] <PC-X69> sadf
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> nonuby: http://www.techlw.com/2012/02/install-firefox-130-in-ubuntulinux-mint.html    is one guide I found
[11:12] <PC-X69> sadf
[11:12] <FloodBot1> PC-X69: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:13] <iceroot> !info firefox
[11:13] <danu> hello
[11:13] <danu> are some people here ;p ?
[11:13] <iceroot> nonuby: until firefox 14 will be in the ubuntu-repos
[11:13] <danu> hmm it says, this name is already registered, but can people still read me or?
[11:14] <iceroot> nonuby: or is your question "when is ff13 hitting the repos"?
[11:14] <fidel> danu: you can expect that someone is almost always active inhere
[11:14] <danu> thanks
[11:14] <danu> im having a problem with my ubuntu installation, is this the place to ask questions?
[11:14] <fidel> danu: yep
[11:14] <safebin> http://safebin.net/7137
[11:15] <danu> ok. i have a lxde version of ubuntu, and i just removed WICD. im not entirely sure if it causes this problem but: when i login, it logs me out in a second...
[11:15] <danu> i can login with command line though, but cannot "startx"
[11:16] <drecute> iceroot: http://codepad.org/uGDNvXGX
[11:16] <fidel> danu: wicd is an alternative network-manager - am i right? i doubt this is causing login-issues. do you see any error-output before you get auto-logged-out?
[11:17] <danu> no, its like a black screen for that split second, and im bak to the login screen aain
[11:17] <danu> *again
[11:17] <fidel> danu: and what is the output of startx?
[11:17] <danu> file /root/.xauthority does not excist
[11:18] <danu> fatal server error: server is already active for display 0
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> danu: what username are you trying to log in as?
[11:18] <danu> root
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> danu: not supported here
[11:18] <danu> second, ill try with another user
[11:19] <danu> ok. with my "normal" user theres a funny thing going on
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> danu: thats how the OS is designed
[11:19] <danu> i had renamed it, from "cinka" to "wreki"
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> danu: root login isn't needed nor supported her
[11:20] <danu> the /home/cinka folder is gone (renamed to wreki), but it complains: timeout in locking authority file/home/cinka/.Xauthority
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> danu: is the file owned by cinka?
[11:20] <EtgarDizz> how can i make an application the default for a certain filetype?
[11:20] <danu> the user cinka is gone
[11:21] <danu> oh, nevermind, its still present somehow
[11:21] <danu> hmm, how to see if it is/ chmod?
[11:22] <danu> i can login on other users just fine thou
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> danu: ls -l /home/cinka/.Xauthority
[11:23] <danu> -rw------- 1 cinka cinka 50 2012-05-26 12:50 /home/cinka/.Xauthority
[11:23] <danu> is the output, so i think it is
[11:23] <angs> does ubuntu use connman?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> danu: looks good
[11:24] <danu> but the user i want to login at is, called "wreki" :P
[11:24] <fidel> angs: its available if thats your question
[11:24] <danu> i think i must , chown
[11:25] <NoVoteLoss> what browsers do you ubuntu users use.
[11:25] <danu> i use firefox
[11:25] <ranveer5289> chromium
[11:25] <angs> fidel, I am asking if there is connman in ubuntu by default?
[11:25] <tdn> I have just upgraded to 12.04 from 11.10. When I try to apt-get install syslog-ng, I get this error: http://p.adora.dk/P2421.html . It says that I have "held broken packages". What does that mean? How do I fix it?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> NoVoteLoss: chrome or midori
[11:25] <fidel> angs: its not installed by default
[11:26] <angs> fidel: thanks
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> tdn: try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[11:26] <|Long|> good morning, i'm looking for good botpack.tcl can someone plz help?
[11:26] <Blackshirt> Good night here
[11:26] <NoVoteLoss> firefox seems a bit slow to me, and i dont like google. so thats where im at lol
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> NoVoteLoss: midori, opera, arora
[11:27] <tdn> ActionParsnip, it says: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> NoVoteLoss  same here, i use chromium and duckduckgo.com
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> tdn: are you using a PPA for syslog-ng ?
[11:28] <NoVoteLoss> thanks actionparsnip ill check out midori and arora, used opera on my other machines but never tried it in linux
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> gotta love duckduckgo :)
[11:28] <tdn> ActionParsnip, no, not that I am aware of.
[11:29] <tok> I used opera as well, but when I switched I found that Opera was not available for linux: apparently I switched for being inattentive.....
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> tdn: if you run:  dpkg -l | grep syslog     does it output anything?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> !opera | tok
[11:29] <nandersson> Hi, I saw the recording of Thomas Bushnell, Google on UDS. He made a strange remark. He said a reboot cost Google 1M USD - because they are tens of thousands of users and a reboot could take 15 min. This sounds strange. Does anybody know if they run their machines from NFS or something like that on Google???
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> nandersson: this is ubuntu support only, try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:30] <nandersson> ActionParsnip, Ok, do that
[11:30] <lexxmt> hi again
[11:30] <lexxmt> I ab
[11:31] <lexxmt> I unable boot 3.2.0-24, error failed to execute init
[11:31] <Semtex>  hey guys I am trying to create an sftp account that has read only access to a single folder
[11:31] <Semtex> can anyone help?
[11:31] <lexxmt> but 3.2.0-23 runs fine
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> lexxmt: are there any bugs reported?
[11:31] <lexxmt> I already try reinstall 3.2.0-24
[11:31] <lexxmt> remove then install
[11:31] <tok> thanks, though I now have the no-script addon with firefox, which I am actually pleased with. the shortcuts were nice in opera, but firefox also has a method for saving pages
[11:32] <tdn> ActionParsnip, yes: http://paste.adora.dk/P2422.html
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Semtex: just change the access as if it were a local user, the access is the same
[11:32] <lexxmt> before I have problem missing init, now failed to execute init
[11:32] <lexxmt> kernel panic failed to execute init
[11:32] <Semtex> ok do you also know how I cant set this particular folder as their root?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> tdn:  sudo dpkg -P libsyslog-ng-3.3.4 syslog-ng
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> tdn: then retry
[11:33] <Semtex> thanks for the help btw
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Semtex: default is $HOME  not sure how to tweak it tbh
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Semtex: maybe others know
[11:33] <lexxmt> any ideas for me?
[11:34] <lexxmt> is init script located on initrd ramfs ?
[11:34] <Blackshirt> Lexxmt, what are you doing before?
[11:34] <lexxmt> before I get fail?
[11:34] <Blackshirt> Yes
[11:35] <tdn> ActionParsnip, ok
[11:35] <Blackshirt> Semtex, sftp from openssh-server
[11:35] <lexxmt> I get 2 times disk error (ext4 errors)
[11:35] <lexxmt> first time after fsck system works well,
[11:35] <Squarism> how can i see what parts of my file system is encrypted
[11:35] <Semtex> ?? I have openssh-server installed
[11:35] <Squarism> ?
[11:35] <lexxmt> but now not
[11:36] <Semtex> and am using sftp
[11:36] <Semtex> ??
[11:36] <Squarism> is there some graphical partition tool in ubuntu?
[11:36] <lexxmt> I have Ubuntu 12.04 on SSD
[11:36] <Pici> Squarism: gparted
[11:36] <Semtex> or the built in disc utility
[11:37] <Blackshirt> Lexxmt, you should fsck your disk
[11:37] <lexxmt> done
[11:37] <lexxmt> all errors fixed
[11:37] <lexxmt> right now if I boot to liveCD and run fsck everething fine
[11:38] <Chuck_Norris> aloha all :D
[11:38] <Chuck_Norris> *wind sounds*
[11:38] <lexxmt> also if I run in 3.2.0-23 check all disk, I have no errors
[11:39] <lexxmt> I see, that init exist in /sbin/
[11:39] <Squarism> i thought i only had an "encrypted home" but looking at the output of df  i see this http://pastebin.com/q0760sQk .. is that an indication my whole FS is encrypted?
[11:40] <lexxmt> also 3.2.0-23 run fine
[11:40] <lexxmt> I need recover some how 3.2.0-24
[11:40] <nonuby> iceroot, as in when, ff13 is out tomorrow officially, will i see it in ubuntu-repos tomorrow, whats the story in the past?
[11:40] <tdn> ActionParsnip, that worked. Thanks! Is this a bug in the packagee? Wrong depends?
[11:41] <lexxmt> before ubuntu 12.04 I have 10.04 version with works fine till I make clean install of 12.04
[11:41] <lexxmt> motherboard INTEL  S3200SHC
[11:42] <nimbu> can anyone recommend a good home router with port forwarding and vlan support?
[11:42] <Squarism> Anyone?
[11:42] <Squarism> http://pastebin.com/q0760sQk <- does that look as if my whole FS is encrypted or just my home?
[11:43] <lexxmt> Boot SSD: OCZ-PETROL 64GB
[11:43] <lexxmt> any ideas?
[11:43] <nibbler__> Squarism, homedir only
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> Squarism  palimpsest, gparted
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> tdn: bad packaging, possibly because you didn't remove the old configs (noth the rc)
[11:44] <jolaren> Hello. I can't get my cellphone to list in lsusb or so.. :( the following errors can be viewed form dmesg "usb 2-2: device descriptor read/64, error -62,usb 2-2: new low-speed USB device number 10 using ohci_hcd,usb 2-2: device not accepting address 10, error -62,usb 2-2: new low-speed USB device number 11 using ohci_hcd
[11:44] <danu> im not in sudoers :S to who is htis going to be reporterd?
[11:45] <jolaren> danu: to the system administrator
[11:45] <iceroot> nonuby: i dont think you will see it on the same day
[11:45] <iceroot> nonuby: depending on the maintainers
[11:45] <danu> but its my pc lol
[11:45] <tdn> ActionParsnip, ok
[11:46] <tdn> ActionParsnip, I just followed instructions in the do-release-upgrade script.
[11:46] <abckb__> well report it to yourself lol
[11:46] <lexxmt> Where init script located? is it possible some how debug what is wrong/
[11:46] <tdn> ActionParsnip, so it might be a bug in that?
[11:46] <Squarism> nibbler__, thanx... Why is "/" as big as "/home/karlw/.Private" then?`
[11:47] <rickycole> hi and good afternoon :) complete newbie here and am looking for a bit of help...
[11:47] <NoVoteLoss> whatsup rickycole
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> danu  it's a general remark, in case your pc is part of a local business network or so
[11:47] <danu> oki, thnx
[11:47] <rickycole> installed Ubuntu yesterday on an old machine and have 2 issues I need help with
[11:48] <rickycole> first one is graphics.... where can I get help for that?
[11:48] <rickycole> second one is hardware related...
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> rickycole  don't ask to ask, just ask
[11:48] <cool_> o
[11:48] <rickycole> kk, how do I get the correct graphics driver installed
[11:48] <rickycole> ?
[11:49] <lexxmt> anybody?
[11:49] <danu> huh
[11:49] <cool_> me too
[11:49] <danu> you can just, install the restricted drivers
[11:49] <rickycole> how do I test my hardware?
[11:49] <danu> test?
[11:50] <rickycole> um, to see if it is working correctly
[11:50] <danu> test like what
[11:50] <NoVoteLoss> hmm, im not against opera so far
[11:50] <rickycole> the machine is ***extremely*** slow
[11:50] <danu> videocard?
[11:50] <danu> :o
[11:50] <danu> what speccss it has
[11:51] <rickycole> AMD mobile 3000 something, 512 ram, radeon xpress graphic
[11:51] <danu> thats not bad
[11:51] <rickycole> running like a pig
[11:51] <danu> maybe you are running gnome/unity or kde
[11:51] <My__> Anyone feel like walking through why I can't see my Apache2 Web Server from outside? :)
[11:51] <danu> try out LXDE, or xfce, much better
[11:52] <rickycole> it was running slow on windows before as well
[11:52] <rickycole> thats why I think it's hardware related
[11:52] <iceroot> MyNameIsNick: dont change the nick when asking a question please
[11:52] <netcrash> Hello, I have gnome-power-manager installed according to a aptitude search , but when I try to execute it It's says it can't be found. Any ideas?
[11:52] <MyNameIsNick> I must warn new, I have no idea how Apache works.  Come from IIS :)
[11:52] <danu> yes, but what desktop are you using? unity? gnome?
[11:52] <MyNameIsNick> Does that have eveyone running?  LOL
[11:52] <fidel> MyNameIsNick: define: from outside
[11:52] <rickycole> how do i find out?
[11:53] <MyNameIsNick> From outside the Lan fidel
[11:53] <danu> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SCQze0-rF1s/Tb_1K9WoBXI/AAAAAAAABQQ/4FtvDfC9Ofs/s1600/ubuntu-unity.png
[11:53] <danu> looks like this?
[11:53] <fidel> MyNameIsNick: so you want to run an apache server inside your lan which should be accessible from outside the lan - is tihs right ?
[11:53] <iceroot> MyNameIsNick: you have the ip-adress of the aoache-system?
[11:53] <MyNameIsNick> Yep Fidel
[11:53] <fidel> MyNameIsNick: if so - have you done the port-forwarding?
[11:53] <MyNameIsNick> It's working a treat inside the Lan
[11:54] <MyNameIsNick> I think I've done the port forwarding.  Using a NetcomNB1300 +4 and a Belkin Wireless router behind that
[11:54] <nibbler__> Squarism, its same size, as ecryptfs does not reside on a partition, but on /
[11:54] <rickycole> yes
[11:55] <rickycole> sorry, it took that long to load
[11:55] <danu> try lxde :D
[11:55] <Pici> !who
[11:55] <danu> its much easier on the computer
[11:55] <MyNameIsNick> Netcomm is 192.168.1. on 255.255.255.0 and the Belkin is 192.168.2.1 on 255.255.255.0
[11:55] <MyNameIsNick> Netcomm is 192.168.1.1
[11:55] <danu> http://www.renewablepcs.com/about-linux/kde-gnome-or-xfce
[11:55] <danu> Recommended System Requirements for Unity
[11:55] <danu>  Required RAM
[11:55] <danu> 	1 GB
[11:55] <danu>  Required CPU
[11:55] <danu> 	 1 GHz
[11:55] <FloodBot1> danu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:55] <danu> oki , sorry
[11:56] <MyNameIsNick> Let me see Fidel
[11:56] <nibbler__> Squarism, if you umount your home, you'll see the .Private directory residing on / with all your data - just encrypted
[11:56] <rickycole> ok, I'll check it out once loaded....
[11:56] <rickycole> what can I do about the graphics driver?
[11:57] <MyNameIsNick> 202.161.20.87 is the WAN ip
[11:57] <Chuck_Norris> rickycole: what it the graphic card?
[11:57] <danu> they are usualy automatic detected, even my FIREgl x300 was detected
[11:57] <rickycole> radeon xpress 220
[11:57] <rickycole> not detected
[11:58] <danu> you need to enable restricted drivers, but, like you mentioned before you have only 512mb ram, while unity requires +- 1gb
[11:58] <rickycole> could this mean a graphgic card error?
[11:58] <danu> no
[11:58] <Scottyob> I'm having a problem with an old Ubuntu Hardy machine I've recently converted from a kvm image into an esxi image.. it looks like after all the init scripts have ran, it just hangs, I can't get to a terminal unless booting single user mode
[11:58] <MyNameIsNick> I'm actually thinking I probably have more of a router issue.  but don't know enough about routing to diagnose with certainty
[11:58] <Chuck_Norris> ups! AMD doesnt suppor those graphics card anymore, just use the open source driver
[11:58] <rickycole> ok, so going to xfce will allow more resources?
[11:58] <fidel> MyNameIsNick: ensure incomping packages at port X (most likely 80) get forwarded to the local-lan box which runs the apache.
[11:59] <unkn-error> what is easier to learn and configure for a begginer, Apache or ngix?
[11:59] <MyNameIsNick> Gimme a tick
[11:59] <fidel> thats the basic portforwarding thing you most likely need to setup
[11:59] <geekbri> unkn-error: that kind of question will get a different answer from each person.
[11:59] <rickycole> i mean I can see the screen, but playing DVD's is steppy...
[11:59] <MyNameIsNick> Yep checked that
[12:00] <unkn-error> geekbri, ok
[12:00] <geekbri> unkn-error:  I think if you have never set up either of them, it won't matter which you pick.  Apache is pretty well documented being the most used webserver around.  Nginx I find very easy to configure and has good documentation on their wiki as well.
[12:00] <MyNameIsNick> port 80 is pointing at 192.168.2.2 Which is apche2 box
[12:00] <Chuck_Norris> rickycole: did you install "xserver-xorg-video-ati"
[12:00] <Naphatul> i tried installing the proprietary drivers but got errors on both of them (hd6850), then downloaded the ones off ati's site but i think even then an error appeared, i got VESA:BARTS now, are those good?
[12:00] <fidel> MyNameIsNick: and do you see the attempts in thre apache access log?
[12:00] <rickycole> no, I don't think so
[12:01] <Chuck_Norris> rickycole: paste: aptitude search xserver-xorg-video-ati
[12:01] <MyNameIsNick> AAhhh, "Access Log"  ok let me see what I can find.  I'm using WebMin
[12:02] <Pici> !webmin | MyNameIsNick
[12:02] <rickycole> not installed
[12:02] <NoVoteLoss> anyone reccomend a proxy service
[12:02] <Chuck_Norris> rickycole: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
[12:02] <Pici> NoVoteLoss: squid?
[12:03] <NoVoteLoss> ah thanks pici thats the one i was thinking of
[12:03] <NoVoteLoss> couldnt remember the name
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> !zentyal| MyNameIsNick
[12:03] <fidel> MyNameIsNick: apache comes usualy with an access & error.log
[12:03] <Naphatul> anyone?
[12:03] <fidel> !anyone
[12:04] <MyNameIsNick> Getting Zetyal now
[12:04] <Naphatul> i did ask my question
[12:04] <MyNameIsNick> HHmmm I have to un-instal webmin?
[12:04] <krn0> hello
[12:04] <Squarism> is there any rough estimae on how much encrypted-home does to memory/speed performance?
[12:05] <Chuck_Norris> Naphatul: in order to install the priopretary driver from the .run you have to apply a pacth, but...
[12:05] <rickycole> chuck_norris: ok installed
[12:05] <Chuck_Norris> it's recommended that, you just install it from "Additional Drivers"
[12:05] <Naphatul> i tried but it gave me an error
[12:06] <Chuck_Norris> this way, you will install an already patched driver
[12:06] <MyNameIsNick> Here's possibly a hiretical question?....  Can wWebmin nstall Zentyal? :)
[12:06] <fidel> MyNameIsNick: i doubt that
[12:06] <MyNameIsNick> :)
[12:06] <frinegs> problems with being tech support for a company who ships computers pre installed with ubuntu = her: my usb bluetooth doesn't work? me: what brnd is it? her: I don't know I got it off ebay me: O_0
[12:06] <MyNameIsNick> Doesn't hurt to think. It's hurst when the toughts are wrong and you act on 'em :)
[12:06] <fidel> MyNameIsNick: get used to apt
[12:07] <Chuck_Norris> Naphatul: from "Additional drivers"? can you paste the error? an image o what ever?
[12:07] <krn0> how do i install Hunchbackeed foremost on ubuntu?
[12:07] <MyNameIsNick> Yeh I don't want to have to go to the box.  It's at least 8 feet away. And the couch is comfortable :)
[12:07] <Naphatul> Chuck_Norris, i closed the error but i think it pointed to a log file, jockey.log, i can paste that if it's helpfull?
[12:08] <frinegs> another classic is; how to I install my HP wireless printer
[12:08] <Chuck_Norris> Naphatul: could be
[12:08] <MyNameIsNick> AAnnn   NNNoooo  SSH isn't running :)  Forgive my Window$ background
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> !ot| frinegs
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> frinegs: use the cog in the top right, you can add printers there
[12:09] <Chuck_Norris> Naphatul: when you tryed installing the driver downloaded from AMD, did you patched first?
[12:09] <Naphatul> Chuck_Norris, no i just ran it, sh ./drivernamehere
[12:10] <Naphatul> Chuck_Norris, http://pastebin.com/eGHN9mVk  the error log
[12:10] <Chuck_Norris> Naphatul: ok, you tried with 12.04 driver version?
[12:10] <sertaconay> Selam herkeze ..
[12:10] <Chuck_Norris> this driver version need the patch
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> krn0: sudo apt-get install foremost
[12:10] <Chuck_Norris> needs*
[12:10] <Naphatul> Chuck_Norris, what do you mean 12.04 driver version? i just got the latest off their site
[12:10] <Chuck_Norris> ok
[12:11] <MyNameIsNick> ok. Let me get this sorted.  sudo apt-get install ssh?
[12:12] <krn0> ActionParsnip: that installs foremost not Hunchbackeed foremost or is that the same thing?
[12:12] <krn0> Hunchbackeed foremost has a GUI is suppose
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> MyNameIsNick  not quite, its's openssh-server and openssh-client
[12:12] <MyNameIsNick> aahhh, guessing never works
[12:12] <MyNameIsNick> !
[12:13] <server_> who can help me for ftp ??
[12:13] <server_> in web server ehcp
[12:14] <Chuck_Norris> Naphatul: paste: uname -r
[12:14] <MyNameIsNick> 1:5.8p1-7ubuntu1 installed
[12:14] <MyNameIsNick> Now the client
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> server_  just ask and wait if someone can help
[12:14] <server_> i did ask it now ore not??
[12:14] <MyNameIsNick> Ubuntu 12.04 has it installed by deafult?
[12:15] <Chuck_Norris> seems like you have 3.2.0-23 intead of 3.2.0-24
[12:15] <Naphatul> 3.2.0-24-generic
[12:15] <Chuck_Norris> ok
[12:15] <server_> who can help me with ehcp then ftp i cant get access to it
[12:15] <fidel> MyNameIsNick: try to ask full sentences - otherwise we have to guess what 'it' is
[12:15] <xissburg> So
[12:16] <fidel> and guessing is - as you realized yourself - not that good ;)
[12:16] <Chuck_Norris> open "Additional driver" and try to install the priopretary drivers, if fails paste an image
[12:16] <xissburg> I used the automatic update to 12.04 and it screwed my install in my virtual machine
[12:16] <server_> who can help me with ehcp then ftp i cant get access to it
[12:16] <MyNameIsNick> Sorry Fidel.  Software Center come up with Putty.  I've seen references to it.  Installing that should get me out of the ssh woods?
[12:16] <fidel> !repeat > server_
[12:16] <Chuck_Norris> http://i.imgur.com/dw8mc.jpg -.-
[12:17] <server_> ??
[12:17] <Naphatul> Chuck_Norris, just the normal one without (post-release updates) ?
[12:18] <Chuck_Norris> ye, the normal one
[12:19] <Pici> server_: What is ehcp?
[12:19] <server_> a web server like directadmin
[12:19] <Naphatul> well it installed now
[12:19] <Naphatul> succesfully
[12:19] <MyNameIsNick> OOOhhh  Gotta love ssh
[12:20] <Chuck_Norris> restart
[12:20] <Pici> server_: Then perhaps you should look for their support resources. Most people here do things manually, we can't really help with specific hosting control panels.
[12:20] <Naphatul> brb
[12:20] <MyNameIsNick> is the command line sudo apt-get zentyal for zentyal? and do I have to un-install webmin?
[12:20] <server_> i do now but cant find it
[12:20] <fidel> MyNameIsNick: no
[12:20] <iceroot> MyNameIsNick: sudo apt-get install packagename
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> MyNameIsNick  apt-get install and apt-get purge
[12:21] <iceroot> MyNameIsNick: please dont host a public-server if you dont know what you are doing
[12:21] <iceroot> MyNameIsNick: normally that will end in a open-mail-relay with lot of warez on ftp/http
[12:21] <fidel> good point
[12:22] <MyNameIsNick> I know iceroot. I'm figuring out Linux as I go. I run a few IIS boxes.  So I'm not totally uncomfortable with it all.  Linux is new to me though.
[12:23] <server_> who can help me with ehcp then ftp i cant get access to it
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> server_  find help on http://www.ehcp.net/
[12:23] <iceroot> MyNameIsNick: its no problem that you have to learn but its a problem if the system is a public server
[12:23] <MyNameIsNick> I will be shutting down the port forwarding as soon as it's visible
[12:23] <server_> monkeydusk cant find anything
[12:23] <Naphatul> ok i rebooted now it says the driver is in use when i go check but in system details it still says VESA:BARTS
[12:23] <server_> and it need to be work but it say a error
[12:23] <MyNameIsNick> I just need to know it's visible.  Then i can play with it locally again.
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> server_  they're on launchpad, too
[12:24] <Chuck_Norris> Naphatul: paste: lsmod | grep fglrx
[12:24] <server_> i gonna boook
[12:24] <Naphatul> fglrx                3263886  121
[12:25] <CaptainSifff> Hi there! What is the preferred way of getting the droid latex fonts on Ubuntu 12.04?
[12:25] <Chuck_Norris> it's in use, idk about that VESA but, how do you feel? i meant the screen resolution, playing some games, or something
[12:26] <Naphatul> well the screen res has been fine even before i tried installing anything idk about games i don't have anything resource intensive
[12:26] <Naphatul> i feel like i should just do a fresh install, installing and reinstalling video drivers feels like it's gona blow up in a future update
[12:27] <danu> heys
[12:28] <Naphatul> just one thing, should i install the drivers before the 3.2.0-24 update or before?
[12:28] <danu> both :D
[12:28] <fidel> Naphatul: doing fresh installs usually prevents learning ;)
[12:28] <danu> but is muche asier
[12:29] <Chuck_Norris> ye, when Xorg get updated, is very probably that all blow up, if you are using the privative AMD drivers
[12:29] <Naphatul> fidel, i got a vm for tinkering with stuff i'd rather keep the host OS working
[12:29] <fidel> Naphatul: do whatever you think you have to - was just a small though on your reinstall-comment
[12:30] <Chuck_Norris> but the Open Source driver "Gallium" is pretty good, you can play games and all the things, and when Xorg get updated nothing bad happens
[12:30] <quebre> can someone explain me or point to some docs where it's explained how to make ubuntu packages, on example of dovecot, where from single tar.gz sourcess 3 .deb packages are made, like this: dovecot-common, dovecot-imapd and dovecot-pop3d ?
[12:30] <obakfahad> hello ?
[12:31] <danu> elo signor :D
[12:31] <quebre> i was able to create dovecot package from sourcess but only one was made and it was without /etc/dovecot configuration files
[12:31] <Firartix> quebre: there's a guide on the wiki
[12:31] <Chuck_Norris> i can't say the same about "Nouveau" =( i can't play games with it =(
[12:31] <quebre> i know, i was following many guides
[12:31] <obakfahad> I want to install Kde in my ubuntu 12.04 . i AM USING LIGHTDM(default) . So how can i fully install kde ? i do not want to remove lightdm . I want KDE but without any confliction . Please help .
[12:32] <quebre> the guide on wiki is based on 'hello' program that is small
[12:32] <Naphatul> Chuck_Norris, not looking to play games on this just to get hardware accelerated flash and video decoding working properly
[12:32] <Firartix> you can break into several packages yourself
[12:32] <jewlez> Might I ask a quick question..
[12:32] <quebre> Firartix: how i can do this ?
[12:32] <Firartix> usually -common/data packages contains all the apps data
[12:32] <Chuck_Norris> Naphatul: try the Open Source driver then
[12:32] <Firartix> that goes in the /usr/share section
[12:32] <jewlez> I installed a new release of Lubuntu for the first time at 1 a.m. central this morning
[12:32] <Firartix> such as images, sounds or whatever
[12:32] <quebre> yep
[12:32] <jewlez> after the install finished only users were guest and other
[12:32] <Firartix> i'm not familliar with .deb building, but can't you simply chose what to put in which package, and build several ?
[12:33] <Chuck_Norris> if you don't feel confortable with the priopretary driver i meant
[12:33] <jewlez> I dont recall it asking me to make a user nor can I su or sudo as guest
[12:33] <danu> yeees
[12:33] <obakfahad> I want to install Kde in my ubuntu 12.04 . i AM USING LIGHTDM(default) . So how can i fully install kde ? i do not want to remove lightdm . I want KDE but without any confliction . Please help
[12:33] <Jonii> Ubuntu really, really needs some tutorial, like "Gratz, you've just installed Ubuntu on your system. Here, check out here how to use it to your advantage"
[12:33] <quebre> Firartix: that's what i'm trying to do, to choose what to put into each package, including configuration files, but not sure how to do this
[12:33] <DJones> !checkinstall | quebre This may help you in building a deb package for ubuntu
[12:33] <obakfahad> guys ?
[12:33] <iceroot> quebre: have a look at the debian-wikis about "debhelper"
[12:33] <Firartix> can't help you, havent looked into package building yet :D
[12:33] <danu> sap fahad
[12:34] <Jonii> Then it tells you about multitouch gestures, Ubuntu HUD, different workflow suggestions and all that
[12:34] <obakfahad> ?? danu ??
[12:34] <fidel> Jonii: arent there already tons of tutorials etc?
[12:34] <iceroot> quebre: also have a look at source-packages with "apt-get source packagename" to get a better understanding about debian/rules and /debian/control
[12:34] <Chuck_Norris> i have to learn how to write "proprietary" =P -.-
[12:34] <quebre> iceroot: alright.
[12:34] <MyNameIsNick> HHmmm I have some reading to do on Zentyal
[12:34] <MyNameIsNick> Awesome.  Thanks for your help guys
[12:34] <Jonii> fidel: scattered around the internet, I'm sure there are. There are no official guides, nothing that's easy to find and even somewhat reliable-seeming
[12:35] <jewlez> I am wondering if I have to re-install
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> Jonii  the best way to learn, is by using it, tutorials, trial and error etc
[12:35] <jewlez> if I cant su or sudo or adduser as guest am I stuck?
[12:35] <Jonii> MonkeyDust: see, lack of tutorials is what I'm criticizing here
[12:35] <quebre> iceroot: !
[12:36] <quebre> does the debian/control file defines how many packages i want and what each package will contain ?
[12:36] <jewlez> Is there another default user built into lubuntu that I should be using?
[12:36] <quebre> or at least something like that? ;)
[12:36] <iceroot> quebre: that and some others things too
[12:36] <quebre> ahh, i think i get the picture now
[12:36] <iceroot> quebre: what it contains is imo in debian/files
[12:36] <jewlez> only seems to show guest and other on the login window
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> Jonii  offtopic: meet Nixie Pixel on youtube, i'm sure she explain some things
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> can*
[12:37] <Jonii> I mean, obviously this HUD-thing has a lot of potential, but it's awful when you just throw it at users, and they don't know how to use it. I sure don't. It shouldn't be like that
[12:37] <fidel> Jonii: interesting - i see tons of free-time work in tons of more or less helpful articles - nevertheless we hear questions inhere that show at least partly that ppl dont always search on themself before asking inhere ;)
[12:38] <fidel> so ignoring the point how much tutorials etc might exist - it will never be enough& good enough for all of us - anyway - getting offtopic here
[12:39] <jewlez> and sometimes google giving you 4,000,000,000 responses just cant beet a good human on the other end
[12:39] <jewlez> expecially since 99.9% of us know google exists and have probably tried searching already
[12:39] <Jonii> fidel: it's problem in ubuntu itself. Having tutorials is not enough, you have to guide users to them
[12:39] <fidel> jewlez: getting 4 mio hits menas your search is weak in the first place ;)
[12:39] <fidel> Jonii: so solve it if you see it as problem ;)
[12:40] <jewlez> so any thoughts on why I only have guest and other?
[12:40] <jewlez> su or sudo doesnt help
[12:40] <jewlez> and it didnt ask me on the install to create a user either
[12:40] <Jonii> fidel: I'd love to, but unfortunately I'm part of the demographic who needs that sorta help, so I'm in very poor position to be helping others
[12:40] <abra> abra honghui jewlez mcored viashimo mm_arm obakfahad Daekdroom DavidLevin joneslee85 dusares blitzkrieg3 dzragon NGustro bjorn_248 Ronald wainersm ruconse subhojit777 PatrickMello CaptainSifff reenignEesreveR Sw33NY Cookie7 Dalyath james_bond_71 kirua Wolfsherz ElLoco zhanger Kiryx dustinspringman braiam2 bollullera breitbandpixel phr PcJamesy Tinti xissburg khildin_ delki8 harshadura mrpopo
[12:41] <fidel> abra: thats usualy the way you end up without help - but lets try it again: can we help you?
[12:41] <fidel> Jonii: so do you have an actual question / problem right now?
[12:41] <Ronald> He cannot talk anymore, fidel
[12:42] <vvcoder> is KVM better than vbox?
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> !best| vvcoder
[12:42] <jewlez> fidel:  Well let me see. New install of Lubuntu and I only have guest as a user with no way to su or sudo?  Can you help me?
[12:42] <Jonii> fidel: I want resources on how to use Ubuntu
[12:42] <fidel> Jonii: this question is so unspecific - what kind of link/answer do you expect?
[12:42] <Jonii> 12.4 that is
[12:43] <fidel> Jonii: try to ask a detaild question / problem ...at least if you have one
[12:43] <jewlez> hrmm....
[12:43] <Jonii> 12.4 seems to have tons of new features that I don't know what to use, and tons of features I don't know even exist. I want to know what they are, and how to use them
[12:43] <vvcoder> MonkeyDust: better
[12:43] <vvcoder> MonkeyDust: not best
[12:44] <fidel> Jonii: thats still a meta-question. tried pages like: the ubuntu manual project?
[12:44] <fidel> as starting point
[12:44] <jewlez> I thought my question was specific enough
[12:44] <angs> how to search test-connman file in ubuntu?
[12:44] <angs> find test-connman?
[12:44] <jewlez> interesting
[12:45] <fidel> jewlez: sure you arent in some kind of live-session/booted from a cd or similar?
[12:45] <jewlez> no, let me re-itterate
[12:45] <fidel> jewlez: a normal ubuntu -install will ask you for a username while running the setup
[12:45] <jewlez> Fresh install to the hard drive this morning.
[12:45] <mcored> i think exfat drivers make ubuntu highly unstable; i was scanning music using clementine and the pc just rebooted; i  tried 4 times and it rebooted all the four times and random times
[12:46] <angs> does anyone can tell me how to search a file name in ubuntu?
[12:46] <jewlez> no usb or disk in drive, I have guest or other.  It never asked me to add a user at install
[12:46] <szal> mcored: don't use exFAT then
[12:46] <fidel> jewlez: where did you get the install iso/medium from?
[12:46] <Pici> angs: find / -name "exact_fike_name"   or   find / -iname "*file_name*"
[12:46] <jewlez> it would seem I only have guest and other for a specific login.
[12:46] <szal> mcored: and submit bug reports, so issues can be worked on
[12:46] <compdoc> angs, use sudo updatedb, then sudo locate
[12:46] <jewlez> from the lubuntu website
[12:46] <angs> thanks
[12:46] <dlentz> mcored, did you check for overheating?
[12:46] <jewlez> it was there command line install which went fine
[12:47] <mcored> yeah i have been and also downloading dbg files to submit errors
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> Jonii  start here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Main_Page
[12:47] <jewlez> well, text install put it that way
[12:47] <mcored> it is winter over here and i also have all teh fans on
[12:47] <fidel> jewlez: never tried lubuntu releases - i tend to use the core - ubuntu and install whatever i need afterwards.
[12:47] <compdoc> angs, whenever you install a file or program, use sudo updatedb again
[12:47] <jewlez> fidel; Sorry the purpose of lubuntu is for olderr hardware which I am using
[12:47] <angs> thanks a lot
[12:47] <fidel> jewlez: in case this is an unmodifcated fresh - install - redo the setup/install and check if you havent overseen something
[12:48] <jewlez> fidel; thats where I planned on going.  Didnt seem like much else I could do although I find it odd that it would get to this point
[12:48] <sanguisdex> every time I login on my thinkpad the trackpad stops working after about 2 secs of being logged in. what's can I do?
[12:48] <fidel> jewlez: well - its odd - never heard of that issue - nor have i got it myself
[12:48] <mcored> can i mount a hdd as /home/data1 and not display it under Devices with the eject button?
[12:48] <fidel> jewlez: thats why i was asking for your install-sources
[12:49] <mcored> i dont like it when these hdds list under Devices with a so-easy-press eject button
[12:49] <jewlez> http://lubuntu.net/tags/lubuntu-1204
[12:49] <emperor234> #kubuntu-es
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> mcored: mount it using fstab and it may help, you don't mount hdds either, you will be mounting the partition
[12:50] <szal> emperor234: try putting "/join" before that ^^
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> sanguisdex: which thinkpad is it?
[12:50] <emperor234> #kubuntu
[12:50] <mcored> yeah i have mounted it using /etc/fstab as /media/server1 and it still shows up under Devices
[12:50] <sanguisdex> ActionParsnip: t520
[12:50] <mcored> may be mounting as /home/data1 might change
[12:50] <mcored> the partitions are exfat
[12:50] <funkyHat> Which package contains the "Privacy" item in system settings?
[12:51] <mcored> until i move all teh data and format them as ext4 they will have to remain that way unfortunately
[12:51] <emperor234> #ubuntu-es
[12:51] <drecute> please did anyone get Likewise-open to work on Ubuntu 11.10?
[12:52] <mcored> my .net apps works in ubuntu :) https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25501373/ShareXmod/2012-06/04/SX18IM~7.PNG for memory explorer
[12:52] <Jonii> Thanks MonkeyDust and fidel for help
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> sanguisdex: does hitting Fn+F8 help?
[12:54] <sanguisdex> ActionParsnip: no
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> sanguisdex: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[12:58] <giga> How to put openvpn cert to U drive,just read,anyone can't copy but can run?
[12:58] <sanguisdex> ActionParsnip: its actually lisa as this is a mint box but the under the hood architecture is so similar that I came here
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> sanguisdex: its not supported here
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> !mint
[13:00] <angs> how to remote a readonly option on a file?
[13:00] <Squarism> are there better alternatives to mesa gl drivers?
[13:00] <Squarism> or... api maybe
[13:01] <laumonier> hi ive got a usb wifi key and i which is working but not really good i want to see if my driver are upto date how can i do??thx
[13:02] <tok> well, thanks all for being her and being supportive. I got to run.
[13:02] <angs> how to see what wpa_supplicant version that I am using?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> laumonier: which wifi chip does it use?
[13:02] <laumonier> rt2870
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> angs: apt-cache policy wpa_supplicant
[13:02] <angs> thanks ActionParsnip
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> laumonier: so it's just slow, or does it drop off. What's happening with it?
[13:04] <laumonier> ive got a laptop and i want to increase the power of my wifi but compare tomy 3945abg in my laptop ive got a lesser wifi range that i dont understand
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> laumonier: doesn't tell us what the issue is....
[13:05] <primeras> hi all. Sorry my English isn't very well. I want list installed font on Debian/Ubuntu
[13:05] <primeras> xlsfont or fc-list
[13:05] <primeras> ?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> !font
[13:05] <vonsar> my name server connection is really slow, anyone know a fix? (wired connection, 12.04)
[13:06] <vonsar> I edited the resolv.conf last boot but it just gets overwritten
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> vonsar: https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using
[13:06] <brisi> hi all, my pc was shut down illegally due to electricity problems and when i started it, it gives the following view:
[13:06] <brisi> mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: No such file or directory
[13:06] <brisi> mount: mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: No such file or directory
[13:06] <brisi> mount: mounting /proc on /root/proc failed: No such file or directory
[13:06] <brisi> Target Filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init.
[13:06] <brisi> No init found. Try passing init=bootarg.
[13:06] <FloodBot1> brisi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:06] <laumonier> ActionParsnip, ive got a bad wifi range with my usb wifi key i doesnt detect my wifi if i am at 10meters unlike my old 3945intel which detect my wifi AP
[13:06] <brisi> BusyBox v1.10.2 (Ubuntu 1:1.10.2-2ubuntu7) built-in shell (ash)
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> vonsar: same method, use the DNS you like
[13:07] <vonsar> actionparsnip: thanks I'll check it out
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> laumonier: ok and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[13:07] <angs> how to check argument of a file?
[13:08] <brisi> i found some topics for this problem, but the prompt doesn't allow me to write anything because it gives: usb 4-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
[13:08] <angs> or argument of a directory?
[13:08] <roshambles> Does anyone know what mouse button scroll wheel up and down is? I'm trying to get compiz to work on xubuntu.
[13:08] <sveinse> How can I disable automount when a USB device is inserted on my system? I'm running precise
[13:08] <asciicmdr> ls -la
[13:09] <angs> thanks
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: run:  xev   and press them :)
[13:09] <Chuck_Norris> roshambles: is mouse 4 and 5 i guess
[13:10] <roshambles> xev told me it's 4 and 5, very cool program! Alas, compiz doesn't seem to be working. It asked to download packages and turn on open gl, I let it do it all
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: its handy, specially to see if media keys are dead or not :)
[13:11] <laumonier> any idea?
[13:11] <laumonier> should i dl the driver on railink site?
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> laumonier: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[13:11] <roshambles> well, no matter if I use a keyboard or mouse shortcut, compiz doesn't do any zooming in or out
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> roshambles  use ccsm to modify compiz
[13:14] <laumonier> ActionParsnip,  precise
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> laumonier: thanks, let me see
[13:14] <roshambles> oh, compiz settings manager? I was just in it, thanks monkeydust
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> laumonier: you could compile http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-install-rt2870-chipset-based-usb-wireless-adapter.html
[13:15] <laumonier> ActionParsnip,  ok thx a lot
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> laumonier: also try blacklisting rt2800usb module
[13:16] <vonsar> actionparsnip: thanks, I think that that fixed my problem :) working ok now atleast
[13:16] <tbf> anyone else seeing trouble with dejadup-monitor consuming excessive amounts of memory?
[13:16] <tbf> (as in several GB of RSS)
[13:17] <brisi> can anyone help me with the mounting and usb problem please?
[13:17] <gry> what's the problem?
[13:17] <roshambles> None of the options in compiz are working. Is this a limitation of the xubuntu desktop? I don't know how compiz works, just that it doesn't.
[13:18] <brisi> first it gives this:
[13:18] <brisi> mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: No such file or directory
[13:18] <brisi> mount: mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: No such file or directory
[13:18] <brisi> mount: mounting /proc on /root/proc failed: No such file or directory
[13:18] <brisi> Target Filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init.
[13:18] <brisi> No init found. Try passing init=bootarg.
[13:18] <FloodBot1> brisi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:18] <brisi> BusyBox v1.10.2 (Ubuntu 1:1.10.2-2ubuntu7) built-in shell (ash)
[13:18] <xeon123> I do I check which applicatons start to run automatically during start-up in ubuntu?
[13:18] <gry> roshambles: might want to try asking #xubuntu
[13:18] <gry> !pastebin > brisi
[13:18] <roshambles> gry: thanks, I did, but no one has replied there
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> brisi  use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:19] <gry> roshambles: hopefully they could wakeup; in theory compiz works with xubuntu
[13:19] <gry> roshambles: channel might get bit more active as you idle and the usa wakes up
[13:20] <roshambles> gry: ah, ok, I'll ask this evening. I'm in the UK
[13:21] <gnubie> xeon123>  in 12.04 unity it is on the same menu as logiut, shutdown, etc.
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> gnubie  you mean the lightdm menu?
[13:22] <gnubie> xeon123>  click on the gear icon upper right corner
[13:22] <Xix19> my virtual machine's network connection stopped working for no apparent reason, and won't work even after a restart
[13:23] <Xix19>  /etc/network/interfaces contains: "auto lo//iface lo inet loopback"
[13:23] <Oxymoron> In some mysterious way, I think when I tried to isntall Bank ID my user was removed from sudoers list though it modified it. Now I cannot do anything and I cannot change back, as it requires sudo rights ... So what the h*ll shall i do?
[13:24] <kwikness> i'm having some trouble getting a python script to run from /etc/rc.local on startup, but if i execute the scrpit manually, it works fine. i posted something on the forums here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1994940) but nobody's responded. can someone pleeeeaaase help me? =(
[13:24] <Xix19> but afaik "lo" stands for loopback, meaning the localhost on the vm
[13:24] <Bhavesh> My, "top window bars" are invisible since last boot, what command shall I use to retain them?
[13:25] <Xix19> should I change "lo" to "eth0" or something like that?
[13:25] <r00k19> need some help.  im a noob running Ubunto.  i typed a word document for a research paper and it froze while it was saving.  now the icons wont open the word document (open office).  please help!
[13:25] <Chuck_Norris> Bhavesh: did you play with Compizconfig-setting-manager?
[13:26] <Bhavesh> Chuck_Norris: Yup, but it worked fine yesterday and even today morning
[13:26] <Chuck_Norris> Bhavesh: open compizconfig-setting-manage and, re-enable "Unity Plugin"
[13:27] <Bhavesh> Chuck_Norris: I guess it disappeared because of last system update, which was interrupted coz of a power failure.. I had to run a partial update.
[13:27] <r00k19> question - how do you view the properties of files such as .doc or .odt to find out when the thing was created?
[13:27] <Bhavesh> Chuck_Norris: Its already checked
[13:27] <nino> hola
[13:27] <nino> hay al
[13:28] <nino> como os va?
[13:28] <Chuck_Norris> benpro: could be, sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:28] <nino> rktk
[13:28] <nino> y
[13:28] <nino> jd
[13:28] <nino> r
[13:28] <nino> ng
[13:28] <FloodBot1> nino: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:28] <nino> ej
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> r00k19  type file [filename]
[13:28] <LjL> !es | nino
[13:28] <r00k19> like on windows you can just right click and hit properties but on ubuntu how do u see properties for files?
[13:29] <nino> ok
[13:29] <altin> can anyone help me with a vpn connection
[13:29] <altin> I have these parameters which I have never seen before
[13:29] <nino> se puede hablar español?
[13:29] <altin> http://i.imgur.com/IiC6H.jpg
[13:29] <en1gma> sup all. i really really like the old school look for gnome desktop. anyone have a guide that can let me revert
[13:29] <altin> did anyone configure something like that ?
[13:29] <LjL> nino: no aqui, pero en #ubuntu-es se puede
[13:30] <Chuck_Norris> i meant Bhavesh =P
[13:30] <r00k19> can someone please tell me how to access file properties in ubuntu?  (i apologize for being a noob)
[13:30] <bazhang> !notunity | en1gma
[13:30] <nino> es que no pillo los mensajes
[13:30] <deepspeed> enlgma, yea, find a distro that comes stock with gnome 2 still.
[13:30] <en1gma> thanks
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> !es| nino
[13:30] <Chuck_Norris> Bhavesh: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade   and try: unity --reset
[13:30] <Bhavesh> Chuck_Norris: ok so ill try to reupgrade
[13:31] <Bhavesh> Chuck_Norris: and that --reset command too. Ty
[13:31] <Chuck_Norris> ye
[13:31] <en1gma> its funny (even with windows 7) you can still make your desktop look like (windows classic) which is WINDOWS 2000
[13:31] <LjL> nino: no estas en #ubuntu-es, debes poner /join #ubuntu-es por entrar
[13:31] <en1gma> which is what i been doing since the day win2k has been out
[13:31] <deepspeed> r00k19, right-click in the blank space inside the file while using a file manager, and click properties.
[13:31] <deepspeed> There's a permissions tab there.
[13:31] <nino> no
[13:31] <nino> no
[13:32] <Chuck_Norris> por?
[13:32] <xangua> en1gma: only in apearece, it is not windows 2000; ubunu also has fallback mode wich looks like gnome2 but it is Not gnome2
[13:32] <en1gma> as long as it "acts" like it i am fine
[13:32] <nino> no pillo mensajes
[13:32] <en1gma> now if only ubuntu could do the same thing i would be very happy
[13:32] <Bhavesh> Chuck_Norris: the reset command worked and brought everything to default unity settings. thank anyways. I will try to enable wobbly windows again. (I like them)
[13:32] <deepspeed> I use bodhi linux.
[13:32] <deepspeed> It's enlightenment on a lucid core.
[13:32] <nino> hola
[13:32] <xangua> deepspeed: only ubuntu support here, thanks
[13:32] <deepspeed> and i frickin' love it..
[13:32] <Chuck_Norris> Bhavesh: ok, i like me too :D
[13:33] <nino> tengo un problema
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> !es| nino
[13:33] <deepspeed> nino, /join #ubuntu-es
[13:33] <deepspeed> xangua, I wasn't asking for support, just saying...
[13:34] <Chuck_Norris> me voy a ver si encuentro a nino en -es =P
[13:34] <xangua> deepspeed: wich is also offtopic, please stick the te channel topic: Ubuntu Support
[13:35] <sohai> hi
[13:35] <deepspeed> ok, ok.  we were just talking about older versions of stuff, and I thought about it cuz it has a standard lucid base, but I get it.
[13:36] <deepspeed> hi
[13:37] <deepspeed> So, guys, I'm running ubuntu studio 12.04 on my big laptop, and can't seem to get multiple tracks to record in ardour.
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> deepspeed  try #ubuntustudio
[13:38] <deepspeed> o.. didn't know that was a room.  ok.
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: omgubuntu has a good guide too
[13:47] <ivan9191> hi
[13:47] <cypher-neo> hi ivan9191
[13:47] <ivan9191> I want a problem with my Ubuntu 12.04. It can't detect my laptop's battery. I don't know that do...
[13:48] <ufrgs> Hey guys! Good morning.
[13:48] <ufrgs> One thing about this machine is it boots at BIOS every time.
[13:48] <ufrgs> Could it be a battery issue?
[13:48] <ufrgs> The message I get is: "Since you use a new CPU or reinstall your CPU, the system boots up at the slowest CPU speed to make sure the system can enter set up menu. Now, you can adjust the CPU speed as you wish. If the speed is adjusted too high, the system may hang. Please turn off the system and then restart to set the CPU speed."
[13:48] <FloodBot1> ufrgs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:49] <LjL> ufrgs: to me it does sound like the CMOS battery might be dead
[13:49] <LjL> ufrgs: it would probably be better to ask in ##hardware though
[13:49] <ivan9191> can someone help me?
[13:49] <Chuck_Norris> ivan9191: te respondi en ubuntu-es
[13:49] <ufrgs> LjL, ok. Do you think it can be causing a installation issue by any chance?
[13:50] <ufrgs> LjL, ok I will check there.
[13:50] <ironhalik> ufrgs: CMOS battery is a battery that keeps your BIOS settings
[13:50] <ivan9191> Chuck_Norris Sorry... creo que he cerrado Ubuntu-es porque nadie me decía nada.... :(
[13:50] <LjL> ufrgs: i don't think it should, unless perhaps the default BIOS settings are bad enough to impair things
[13:50] <Gaustyrr> I have lost me samba shares on my files server. Ubuntu 10.04LTS. That isn't cool
[13:50] <Chuck_Norris> !patience | ivan9191
[13:50] <ironhalik> ufrgs: if its out of juice, the BIOS will reset with every powerdown
[13:51] <toxiccity90>   /msg NickServ identify Soad69
[13:51] <LjL> !identify | toxiccity90
[13:51] <ivan9191> Chuck norris sí sí estoy allà
[13:51] <ufrgs> ironhalik, ok, and could it be causing installation issues?
[13:51] <DJones> toxiccity90: Time to change your password
[13:51] <toxiccity90> lol
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> toxiccity90: big SOAD fan huh
[13:52] <toxiccity90> yep
[13:52] <ironhalik> toxiccity90: yeah, lol - the pass is good, upper case characters, alphanumeric... but its too short ;>
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> toxiccity90: new album coming :)
[13:52] <Chuck_Norris> ivan9191: we should only write in inglish here
[13:52] <toxiccity90> i know its short it would have it longer but its only for this, my other passwords are much more difficult
[13:53] <ironhalik> ufrgs: every time you boot, the mobo thinks theres a new cpu - also, check the bios version, and if your cpu is supported under it, you may need to update it
[13:53] <Chuck_Norris> english* -.-
[13:53] <ironhalik> ufrgs: I had a similiar problem on my old sempron, it was configured at 900mhz at every boot
[13:54] <ufrgs> ironhalik, and which speed I will use after changing the battery?
[13:54] <ironhalik> ufrgs: pm
[13:56] <sobersabre> hi.
[13:56] <sobersabre> I have 2 harddisks, sda (windows) and sdb (linux).
[13:56] <sobersabre> the cd claimed to complete the installation, but I cannot boot (missing files, related to grub)
[13:57] <sobersabre> I booted into live cd, and ran chroot into the / of my target.
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> !enter
[13:57] <sobersabre> in order to be able to run grub-install /dev/sda, I need to have a proper /dev
[13:57] <sobersabre> How do I initialize /dev inside chroot ?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> sobersabre: then you missed some steps from the chroot
[13:58] <sobersabre> what do you mean I missed ?
[13:58] <sobersabre> there's 1 command: chroot /path/to/mounted_root
[13:58] <LjL> sobersabre: i don't know, but i don't think you need to chroot in order to be able to grub-install, you only need to specify the correct directories as parameters
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> sobersabre: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[14:00] <sobersabre> ActionParsnip: looks I indeed didn't mount --bind.
[14:00] <sobersabre> thanks.
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> sobersabre: i knew you'd missed someting ;)
[14:01] <no_gravity> Good Evening! The internet says to securely wipe an usbstick do "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdb1" (if sdb is the stick). But isnt that missing anything except partition one on the stick? Would "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdb" be better? But then how do i create a new partition on the stick?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> no_gravity: to do the entire device, use the disk name
[14:02] <HunterSeeker> hi i am kinda new to ubuntu anyone can guide me how can i burn an iso to a usb using command line?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> HunterSeeker: if it's oneiric ISO or later, you can use dd
[14:02] <no_gravity> ActionParsnip: if i kill sdb, how do i recreate the mbr? i need to make it usable under windows. a windows user asked me for an usb stick.
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> HunterSeeker: you aren't actually 'burning' it, its not an optical media
[14:03] <designbybeck> welcome HunterSeeker ;)
[14:03] <HunterSeeker> thanks :)
[14:03] <toxiccity90> ok so its changed...lol
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> no_gravity: you don't need an MBR if it's just for data
[14:03] <no_gravity> ok. i will wipe sdb and then try to make is usable with gparted.
[14:03] <toxiccity90> so quick question anyone in here ever use aircrack-ng ??
[14:03] <designbybeck> What is the correct saying on that one ActionParsnip? I was trying to explain that the other day as well
[14:03] <designbybeck> ISO Dump? Mirror Down?
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> toxiccity90: try in #backtrack-linux
[14:04] <toxiccity90> kk
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> no_gravity  tip: if you want more than one live iso on the stick, use the 3rd party app 'MultiSystem'
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: the meaning is pretty similar, not sure really. 'transfer' I guess
[14:05] <HunterSeeker> @command dd
[14:05] <ivan9191> Hi, I have a problem. I have a laptop with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and the battery indicator don't run. I try to run "acpi" Command and it returns: No support for device type:power_supply. I'm power my laptop with "acpi=off" command because if I don't use it, Ubuntu don't power... Can you help me, please?
[14:05] <airstrike> hi. i can't bind anything to keys like ctrl-up and ctrl-pageup
[14:05] <no_gravity> MonkeyDust: i only want to give the stick to a windows user. i dont know what she wants to do with it.
[14:05] <designbybeck> We should put that poll on OMGUbuntu or something and see what the consensus is ?
[14:05] <airstrike> by binding i mean vim
[14:05] <airstrike> but i'm trying Ctrl-V Ctrl-Up in a terminal just to see what happens, and I see nothing
[14:05] <sergeantcupcake> Hola!
[14:05] <sergeantcupcake> Amigos!
[14:05] <drecute> please did anyone get Likewise-open to work on Ubuntu 11.10?
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> !es
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> airstrike: I know you can in fluxbox :)
[14:10] <Gaustyrr> I have lost me samba shares on my files server. Ubuntu 10.04LTS.
[14:10] <saliak> I keep getting a "sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified" when i try to sudo -u in a script called by a background daemon.  I have the user the process is running as in my sodoers file.  text of both at http://pastebin.com/US43PQZd
[14:11] <Sw33NY> Gaustyrr: is it an issue ?
[14:12] <Gaustyrr> sorry, had to run and put out another fire. Yes Samba is not running
[14:12] <Gaustyrr> I tried sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart and it says can not be found
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> or:  sudo servce smbd start]
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> or:  sudo servce smbd start
[14:12] <compdoc> Gaustyrr, its possible an update to samba has replaced your smb.conf file
[14:13] <Sw33NY> Gaustyrr: /etc/init.d/smb start
[14:13] <Sw33NY> Gaustyrr: can launch it with 'sudo' too
[14:14] <Gaustyrr> ok it says its running but I get error 255
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Gaustyrr: if you run:  smbtree    do you see the shares?
[14:15] <MechanisM> help me fix it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1023154/ Unable to start settings
[14:15] <Gaustyrr> nothing on smbtree
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[14:16] <MechanisM> ActionParsnip precise
[14:18] <MechanisM> ActionParsnip i'm already tried to reinstall libwebkitgtk and all related to online-accounts and gnome-control-center etc.
[14:18] <jolaren> I have a Nokia 5140i which I have conneted to my computer with a usb chord. I've been trying to get it to work all morning but I thought the chord was broken because I got the following output on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/MiSVdgwa but now when I got home I tried a new cable and the problem is the same!
[14:18] <MechanisM> ActionParsnip nothing can help
[14:19] <MechanisM> ActionParsnip I'm more than month with this problem
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: what is the output of: apt-cache policy `dpkg -l | grep libwebkitgtk | awk {'print $2'}`
[14:20] <akls> is there any good tool to view .db files?
[14:20] <MechanisM> ActionParsnip there is smth like promt
[14:20] <MechanisM> arrow ">"
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: did you copy the whole command
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: works here
[14:21] <MechanisM> ActionParsnip sure
[14:21] <altin> can anyone assist here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10882819/connection-to-vpn
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1023173/
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: I bet you missed the last backtick
[14:22] <tbrown2012fb> Am going to be installing Ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop. My Laptop has been over heatting alot of time:) I dont know what is casing the problem. First I thought about my Graphics card and seeing the setting on there. And the other thought I had was my RAM is there a way that I can reduce the RAM usage on ubuntu???
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> tbrown2012fb: use Lubuntu, makes things much sleeker
[14:23] <akls> tbrown2012fb, yes, try Lubuntu
[14:23] <akls> tbrown2012fb, plus, if it's heating, you can try to change cpu governor to powersave
[14:23] <akls> akls, but it will decrease performance a lot
[14:23] <akls> tbrown2012fb, ^
[14:23] <deepspeed> Or another lightweight window manager like fluxbox/blackbox
[14:23] <akls> well, Lubuntu uses openbox
[14:23] <ethek> civicrm
[14:23] <ethek> hmm
[14:24] <ethek> mistype
[14:24] <Jonta> Anyone come across, or have experiences themselves on [Evernote in Wine] vs [NixNote (prev: Nevernote]?
[14:24] <deepspeed> Yea, but openbox by itself without the menus and such is much faster.
[14:24] <tbrown2012fb> ActionParsnip: akls: I was using Lubuntu for awile and it was not changeing anything it was not cooling my laptop at all. And what do you mean changing setting in ubuntu with cpu
[14:24] <MechanisM> ActionParsnip yep http://paste.ubuntu.com/1023181/
[14:24] <drecute> please did anyone get Likewise-open to work on Ubuntu server 11.10?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: so you didn't copy all of the command....
[14:25] <akls> tbrown2012fb, sudo apt-get install cpufreq-utils; cpufreq-set -g powersave
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> tbrown2012fb: do you use a dual gpu system?
[14:25] <deepspeed> Is there a way to put enlightenment on a standard ubuntu distro without too much trouble?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: all I can suggest is report a bug
[14:25] <MechanisM> ActionParsnip I'm translated some text in output
[14:25] <sergeantcupcake> Hey I seem to be experiencing ActionParsnip's problem. My laptop maintains a very high operating temperature and is always on the verge of overheating. Is there a fix?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> sergeantcupcake: no issues here dude :)
[14:26] <akls> sergeantcupcake, tbrown2012fb maybe you should place you laptops on the table, not on your bed?
[14:26] <deepspeed> sergeantcupcake, maybe dial your processors back in BIOS or disable one to keep the temp down.
[14:26] <sergeantcupcake> actionparsnip: oops. sorry bro
[14:26] <MechanisM> ActionParsnip> but bug report dialog doesn't appears
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> deepspeed  install e17 and select it in lightdm
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> deepspeed: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[14:26] <sergeantcupcake> akls: im not that much of an idiot
[14:26] <MechanisM> just silently nothing if I click it in menu, and such output in terminal
[14:27] <tbrown2012fb> ActionParsnip: What is that??
[14:27] <akls> sergeantcupcake, tbrown2012fb or you may apply some thermal grease on your cpu
[14:27] <deepspeed> Also, if you have a cpu freq monitor that's adjustable, just set it to save power as much as possible, sergeantcupcake.
[14:27] <sergeantcupcake> akls: can i do that without too much difficulty on a laptop
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> tbrown2012fb: where you have an nvidia/amd gpu but also the GPU in i7 Intel CPUs, causes all manner of issues
[14:27] <akls> sergeantcupcake, well, it's not that hard, look for tutorials on the internet
[14:27] <sergeantcupcake> deepspeed: i dont belive that i have such a utility. Can you recommend one?
[14:28] <deepspeed> You should be able to do it from the BIOS menu, sergeantcupcake .
[14:28] <sergeantcupcake> deepspeed: thanks! :)
[14:28] <akls> sergeantcupcake, as I said, sudo apt-get install cpufreq-utils; sudo cpufreq-set -g powersave
[14:28] <deepspeed> Press F10 or F2 or esc or something when you boot up, and it might just give you the option.
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> deepspeed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Enlightenment
[14:28] <tbrown2012fb> ActionParsnip: Am not really shear I have a AMD Processor 1.65GHz
[14:28] <deepspeed> ActionParsnip, thanks.
[14:28] <sergeantcupcake> akls: what will that do?
[14:28] <MechanisM> ActionParsnip any option to force to reinstall? I'm tried in synaptic select a lot of related packages and clicked for reinstall, but nothing..
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> !info e16
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: its a possibility
[14:29] <deepspeed> They're using e17 now, I think, ubottu.
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> !info e17
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> deepspeed: don't add the jaunty repo, jaunty is dead
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: thanks
[14:29] <akls> sergeantcupcake, set your cpu governor to powersave
[14:30] <akls> sergeantcupcake, will decrease cpu heating+dramatically decrease your pc performance...
[14:30] <deepspeed> ActionParsnip, thanks.
[14:30] <slorbast> Hey guys, got a question. After installing a Windows executable through Wine, say Excel, anyone have like 10 listed "Open With..." options all saying "Excel"?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=675235
[14:31] <deepspeed> sergeantcupcake, also, make sure you keep your laptop on a flat surface, and not on a bed or something that will prevent proper ventilation.
[14:31] <deepspeed> And propping it up a little so the air gets under it better helps somewhat.
[14:31] <sergeantcupcake> akls: ok thanks!
[14:32] <sergeantcupcake> deepspeed: ok!
[14:32] <sergeantcupcake> akls: is there a way to undo the command cpufreq-set -g powersave?
[14:33] <deepspeed> sergeantcupcake, I'm pretty sure you can also set up a cpu freq module on your taskbar.  I have a nice one in enlightenment, anyway.
[14:33] <akls> sergeantcupcake, by default governor is set to ondemand, so try sudo cpufreq-set -g ondemand
[14:33] <deepspeed> It has a little drop-down menu that lets you adjust it whenever you like.
[14:33] <akls> sergeantcupcake, it's possible that your governor was set to performance, that's why you had problems with heating
[14:34] <deepspeed> ^
[14:34] <sergeantcupcake> akls: thanks!
[14:34] <deepspeed> windows has a bad habit of crashing my big vaio lappy by being resource hungry...
[14:34] <sergeantcupcake> deepspeed: ive heard mention of enlightenment. what is it?
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> sergeantcupcake  it's a light and elegant gui
[14:35] <deepspeed> It's a window manager/desktop environment like xfce or gnome, but manages to be fast a light and pretty all at once.
[14:35] <deepspeed> I love it.
[14:35] <deepspeed> Never going back to the others.
[14:35] <sergeantcupcake> MonkeyDust: Where can i get it or find out more?
[14:35] <deepspeed> It makes this little netbook 4x faster than it was with xp.
[14:35] <MechanisM> ActionParsnip thanx
[14:35] <sergeantcupcake> deepspeed: it doesnt look like xfce does it?
[14:35] <deepspeed> no
[14:35] <deepspeed> It's much more appealing, graphically.
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> sergeantcupcake  i don't like eyecandy, better address deepspeed
[14:36] <sergeantcupcake> deepspeed: then i might give it a try
[14:36] <deepspeed> But it can be a little cartoonish if you don't have a good theme, though.
[14:36] <akls> sergeantcupcake, this setting will change to default after reboot, so after rebooting try to run "cpufreq-info -o" this will show you current governor, if after reboot it is "performance", then you have a problem and have to change it automatically to ondemand each boot
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> deepspeed: it is light, fluxbox / openbox also don't need a DE so are fast too :)
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> !info jwm
[14:38] <Guest37415> hola
[14:38] <deepspeed> ActionParsnip, yea, I've used them, too, but they seem a little too bare/close to the metal for me.
[14:38] <deepspeed> enlightenment maintains a very good layer of abstraction between you and the terminal.
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> deepspeed: could try flwm if you want bare metal :)
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> !info olvwm
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> Old skool window managers. ;)
[14:41] <drPoO> Hi, Im running 64-bit 12.04 and Im  trying to run a program and I am getting the following error " libGLU.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory." Any ideas how to fix this issue?
[14:42] <sandyd> drPoO: Post output of lspci | grep VGA
[14:42] <quebre> drPoO: apt-get install libglu1-mesa
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> !find libGLU.so.1
[14:43] <deepspeed> ActionParsnip, I'll have to try it out.  I like bare metal sometimes, especially when I want to maximize the terminal and pretend I'm in the matrix.
[14:43] <drPoO> sandyd, here is the output http://pastebin.com/HZwLD6b7
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> drPoO: is the application 32bit in your 64bit OS?
[14:43] <none> Hello, can someone help me setup my VPN? I got connected; but, my IP hasn't changed. It's like it's not working at all.
[14:43] <drPoO> ActionParsnip, that could be the case. I am not sure though
[14:44] <Xeneth> ps a
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> none: your IP won't change, you will just get an extra interface with an IP from the ntwork you are connecting to
[14:44] <westell> I hate Unity
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> none:  how are you testing that you conencted?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> drPoO: what comamnd are you running?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> westell: don't use it then
[14:44] <deepspeed> westell, I don't know anyone who likes unity Q
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> westell:  if you have a support issue.. this is the place.. if you want to rant.. this is not the place.
[14:44] <sandyd> drPoO: You using propreitary or open source drivers?
[14:44] <deepspeed> !
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> deepspeed: I like it
[14:44] <westell> lol
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> Unity works very well for me. the HUD is handy
[14:44] <drPoO> quebre, libglu1-mesa is already installed
[14:44] <deepspeed> well now I do..
[14:44] <westell> How do I install Unity
[14:44] <none> ActionParsnip: I installed the software from my VPN's website on my windows partition and the ip changed...
[14:45] <westell> I got to get rid of it for Gnome 3
[14:45] <drPoO> sandyd, I am. Im using bumblebee I have an NVIDIA optimus card
[14:45] <deepspeed> but ActionParsnip seems like the kind of guy who knows how to tweak it and has taken time to do it.
[14:45] <MechanisM> ActionParsnip I'm solved it!
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> westell: you have gnome3 already, unity is just a shell for Gnome3
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: whats the fix??
[14:45] <westell> omg
[14:45] <Gaustyrr> In my samba.conf file something changed the browse to no. I changed it to yes and restarted and my shares are back. Thats for pointing me in the right directions
[14:45] <MechanisM> did rm /usr/lib/control-center-1/panels/libonline-accounts.so and then reinstalled
[14:45] <drPoO> ActionParsnip, its a pharmaceutical industry software
[14:45] <deepspeed> I'm more the 'let's see it work out of the box, and I'll throw a custom background later' kinda guy.
[14:45] <westell> Let me google how to remove Unity because I can not stand it
[14:45] <westell> My  system is slow because of it
[14:46] <none> Anyone know how to set up OpenVPN with conf files and keys on ubuntu??
[14:46] <Dr_Willis> westell:  install some other desktop/window maanger and select it at the login screen.
[14:46] <drPoO> sandyd, would it be a matter of disabling bumblebee?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> drPoO: use the 'file' command on the binary you are running, what does it output
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> westell: just install gnome-panel  log off and log in to the new session
[14:46] <sandyd> drPoO: Try : sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
[14:46] <deepspeed> westell, we just had that discussion.  try enlightenment/xfce/openbox/fluxbox/flwm/lubuntu for more speed.
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> westell: unity2D will be much faster as it doesn't have compiz stinking the place up
[14:46] <LjL> westell: why would you need to remove it? just don't start it, start GNOME-Shell or whatever you prefer to use instead
[14:47] <drPoO> sandyd, already installed
[14:47] <drPoO> ActionParsnip, it just points to another sh file in the directory
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> drPoO: is it a 32bit file that is being ran, you may need to open the script to see what happens
[14:48] <deepspeed> gnome and kde were so awesome when I was running fedora core 6 in college.  SInce I started using linux again, they're the only two I haven't used for more than an hour.
[14:48] <none> Anyone use VPN's on ubuntu?
[14:48] <kendfinger> Hi! I am sick of apport popups on my Chromebook. Could somebody tell me the config file in /etc to turn it off?
[14:49] <r00k19> Hello once again.  I have found that the document i had typed is still running on system monitor as ooffice and the waiting channel says "do_wait"
[14:49] <westell>  I am adding GNOME-CORE then I am going to remove Unity for good, sudo apt-get install gnome-core
[14:49] <geothomac> hello everyone
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> kendfinger: its an option in teh popup o not show the window again afaik
[14:49] <drPoO> ActionParsnip, its difficult to tell from looking at the sh file.
[14:49] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/93457/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-apport
[14:49] <r00k19> if i reboot ubuntu will that process still be running and save my research paper?
[14:49] <kendfinger> Thanks ActionParsnip
[14:49] <drPoO> sandyd, any other suggestions?
[14:50] <deepspeed> r00k19, save the document to a flash drive and reboot.
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> westell: gnome-panel    is all you need
[14:50] <deepspeed> problem solved.
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> westell: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/
[14:50] <none> Ok, I think I know the problem
[14:50] <pratikl> westell: or maybe you can try out gnome-shell
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> westell: its really that simple, whinging in her does less than zero
[14:50] <none> ActionParsnip: how do you force all the traffic through the new ip?
[14:50] <westell> ActionParsnip, I am following this document http://askubuntu.com/questions/6302/how-can-you-remove-unity
[14:50] <deepspeed> none, a cattle prod
[14:51] <none> lol
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> westell:  theres no need to 'remove it' just nstall a differnt desktop and use that.. much safer
[14:51] <deepspeed> pfft.. safe is for ppl who don't make backups.
[14:51] <drPoO> ActionParsnip, is there no way of forcing an execution of a program as if it were 32 bit?
[14:52] <drPoO> ActionParsnip, I guess I could try installing a virtualbox with 32bit 12.04
[14:52] <pratikl> westell: if you install gnome-shell, you will have an option at login screen to choose between Unity and Gnome
[14:53] <drPoO> pratikl, yes
[14:53] <mene> does someone know a good assembler for ubuntu?
[14:53] <westell> Dr_Willis, I have to remove it with this command, Unity is pure garbage sudo apt-get remove gir1.2-unity-5.0 indicator-application indicator-appmenu indicator-datetime indicator-messages indicator-power indicator-sound libindicator7 libnux-2.0-0 libunity-2d-private0 unity unity-2d unity-2d-launcher unity-2d-panel unity-2d-places unity-2d-shell unity-2d-spread unity-asset-pool unity-common unity-lens-applications unity-lens-fi
[14:53] <westell> les unity-lens-music unity-lens-video unity-place-applications unity-scope-musicstores unity-scope-video-remote unity-services
[14:53] <Jancoover> fasm
[14:54] <c31r2g> !info wireless usb
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> westell:  get over the ranting..  You are better off just installing a different desktop and using it. not removeing all sorts of stuff that other programs may need
[14:54] <LjL> westell: good job pasting a wall of text and not even reading what people are telling you
[14:54] <mene> something with masm syntax?
[14:54] <LjL> westell: if you don't START Unity, then Unity won't be RUNNING, and it can't slow down anything. just start something else instead, from LightDM.
[14:54] <ugur> drPoO: may be you should try to install ia32-libs, if it is not istalled.
[14:55] <mene> ah found one
[14:55] <mene> thx anyway
[14:55] <dariusz_> co to za bieda
[14:55] <pratikl> westell: don't screw it up. install gnome-shell (telling you for the third time) and that'd be all fine for you.
[14:55] <oCean> !pl | dariusz_
[14:55] <ugur> i was having a similiar problem then that fixed my problem
[14:55] <aboudreault> hey during the install. why creating a raid 1 device creates a ext4 partition with the full space of the disk?
[14:55] <aboudreault> can't delete it
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> westell  no need to uninstall anything, simply choose something else in the lightdm login menu
[14:56] <aboudreault> or change the site
[14:56] <drPoO> ugur, installing now...
[14:56] <westell> I am sending an email to Canonical demanding they issue two versions of Ubuntu one without Unity
[14:56] <LjL> westell: good luck
[14:56] <drPoO> lol wsstell
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> westell  i'm not using unity myself
[14:57] <westell> MonkeyDust, I know because it;s pure garbage
[14:57] <deepspeed> westell, I've been wondering since I picked linux back up why it's included in so many distros.
[14:57] <westell> Peace out I am just pissed off I have to go cool off
[14:57] <oCean> westell: you do understand you have the luxury to choose whatever desktop you want? XFCE, KDE, LXDE all in one command
[14:57] <MechanisM> why I can't see all my themes in gnome-control-center > appearance? I have a lot of themes all in /usr/share/themes, ubuntu-tweak can see them, other apps too.
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> westell  it's controversial and there are plenty discussion forums
[14:57] <oCean> westell: indeed, if you just came to rant, please don't use this channel
[14:58] <pratikl> oCean: he did his job and left
[14:58] <drPoO> ugur, Installing ia32-libs did it!
[14:58] <drPoO> ugur, Thank you very much!!!
[14:59] <quebre> can this guide http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ be used when creating packages but for ubuntu ?
[14:59] <ugur> drPoO: you're welcome. i am glad i can help :)
[15:02] <westell> Thank God I just got rid of Unity and by system is back
[15:02] <quebre> many peoples complain about unity so why it's shipped with ubuntu ?
[15:02] <oCean> westell: if you just came to rant, please don't use this channel
[15:02] <oCean> quebre: even more people enjoy it every day
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> quebre  because more people do like it
[15:03] <quebre> they don't express it loudly then
[15:03] <quebre> what's unity btw ;)
[15:03] <westell> quebre, Start a Facebook page requesting two versions of Ubuntu, one without Unity I will join
[15:03] <oCean> quebre: this is not the channel to discuss that. You can /join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat and discussion
[15:03] <oCean> westell: you do understand you have the luxury to choose whatever desktop you want? XFCE, KDE, LXDE all in one command
[15:03] <trism> MechanisM: in 11.10-12.04, the themes available in gnome-control-center are hardcoded, try something like gnome-tweak-tool to change themes
[15:04] <quebre> can this guide http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ be used when creating packages but for ubuntu ?
[15:04] <westell> oCean, Yeah I know but the default install of Unity has got to go
[15:04] <trism> MechanisM: oh sorry, missed the ubuntu-tweak part there
[15:04]  * Dr_Willis notices just as many peole ranted and complained  and demanded unity/gnome3/whatever else.. when its not included also..
[15:04] <oCean> westell: eh, no. Now stop ranting
[15:04] <miss_ubuntu> Question: Ubuntu makes me cry , cannot find a  runtime file finding application which search only in file and directory names, mlocate isn't runtime, i need something like google gears,u type debian and without pressing enter all files and folders containing debian shold be listed down... is there any such app present?
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> westell  use your influence at canonical!
[15:04] <MechanisM> trism but thanx you answered my question tho. I didn't tknow it's hardcoded
[15:04] <westell> oCean, No more rants for me mission accomplished
[15:05] <quebre> westell: ;)
[15:05] <westell> MonkeyDust, Only a FaceBook protest page will move Canonical
[15:05] <oCean> westell: enough. Last warning
[15:05] <dreks> I'm trying to set up L2TP over IPSec and I've got the IPSec conn established. When I try to start the L2TP connection with xl2tpd, the kernel log goes nuts. I have tested the exact same setup on in virtualizatin and its flawless. I believe it has something to do with my hardware/kernel combination.
[15:05] <fDuck> рш
[15:06] <fDuck> ребятушки
[15:06] <dreks> I've posted a portion of my kern.log here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1023244/
[15:06] <oCean> !ru | fDuck
[15:06] <pratikl> westell: you need some peace of mind
[15:07] <dreks> I've tried grabbing the Realtek driver for the integrated adapter straight from their site and using that. It produced the same result.
[15:07] <quebre> pratikl: stay on topic :p
[15:08] <pratikl> quebre: hmmm I see
[15:09] <dreks> Is there somewhere I can ask for kernel specific help or can someone reccomend next course of action?
[15:11] <quebre> dreks: #kernel :)
[15:11] <miss_ubuntu> pratikl derks oCean  westell Any1? Question: Ubuntu makes me cry , cannot find a  runtime file finding application which search only in file and directory names, mlocate isn't runtime, i need something like google gears,u type debian and without pressing enter all files and folders containing debian shold be listed down... is there any such app present?
[15:12] <dreks> ok
[15:12] <dreks> thanks
[15:12] <pratikl> miss_ubuntu: Sorry, no idea about it.
[15:13] <ugur> dreks: try askubuntu.com or try reporting bug https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> miss_ubuntu:  phrases like 'ubuntu makes me cry' end up getting you ignored by a lot of people. If you clariried what you are needing.. it would be better use of yoyur time
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> miss_ubuntu:  sounds like you are describing the HUD and unity 'Dash' also...
[15:14] <miss_ubuntu> Dr_Willis thx for response
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> or gnome-do or similer apps
[15:15] <westell> miss_ubuntu, I will will PM I had to make a few changes and put things back in order
[15:16] <danieltree> I upgraded to kernel 3.4 in ubuntu 12.04 and now I can't log in as a normal user..only as a guest user..and even when I select from the grub the previous version the same thing ..can't log in..any ideas ?
[15:16] <miss_ubuntu> Dr_Willis unity searches files only in resent files , not all files
[15:16] <miss_ubuntu> westell  i didn't undertand
[15:16] <priyesh> hello, i have an nvidia 9800gt and 12.04; periodically, the system randomly logs me out. i've tried the additional drivers version of the driver (295.40) and also the latest from nvidia (295.53)
[15:16] <danieltree> I think there might be a nvidia issue ..but I dont know how to fix it..
[15:16] <danieltree> Now I am loged in as guest :(
[15:17] <priyesh> is there a version of the driver which works with 12.04
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> priyesh:  you mean the X desktop 'crashes'  instead of 'logs me out' ?
[15:18] <priyesh> Dr_Willis: I think so - but i'm quite new to Ubuntu
[15:18] <Chicowolf> hi
[15:20] <jnwhiteh> Since upgrading to 12.04, the brightness keys on my Thinkpad x121e no longer work. If I run xev or evtest to try and get the key codes, they're just completely swallowed and ignored. The volume keys (Fn-F2/F3) work, but the brightness (Fn-F8/F9) don't. Anyone have any ideas?
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> jnwhiteh:  id check the forums and askubuntu.com for info on that exact make machine. there maybe some known issues and work arounds.
[15:21] <priyesh> Dr_Willis: have you heard of this issue before?
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> priyesh:  X crashing?  lots of crashes happen.. such is life.. could be due to a lot of things.
[15:22] <priyesh> Dr_Willis: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/980519
[15:22] <priyesh> i believe it is this
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> priyesh:  triaghed means its being worked on.
[15:22] <priyesh> oh i see
[15:22] <priyesh> is there an ETA anywhere?
[15:23] <jnwhiteh> Dr_Willis: most of what I've seen is outdated, and they used to work on 11.10 but I'll keep looking.
[15:23] <jnwhiteh> Just wondering if anyone knew of a way to debug swallowed keys like this =)
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> jnwhiteh:  when you hit the keys . check dmesg output soon afterwards.. see if it mentions them
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> spent a few hrs once  working on a funky ibm keyboard. gettings its special keys working..
[15:24] <nibbler__> in ubuntu config, my apache is forwarding from http://host/directory to http://host/directory/ - which config is responsible for that?
[15:24] <Gosset_Inofensiu> I need some to-do-list or tasks app for Ubuntu, because I don't like very much the one's from Google. any recommendations?
[15:25] <Chicowolf> guys, i 'va a problem
[15:25] <Chicowolf> when i type
[15:25] <Chicowolf> ./build.sh  -p sun4i
[15:25] <Chicowolf> terminal show me
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> !enter
[15:25] <Chicowolf> mkbootimg command not found
[15:25] <nibbler__> Chicowolf, we see your problem when you type....
[15:25] <miss_ubuntu> <Gosset_Inofensiu why dont u use gmail taks
[15:25] <miss_ubuntu> <Gosset_Inofensiu why dont u use gmail tasks
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> !find mkbootimg
[15:26] <miss_ubuntu> Chicowold sudo apt-get install mk...
[15:26] <Gosset_Inofensiu> gmail tasks IMHO "su...."
[15:26] <r00k19> ok so i saved the ooffice docs on a flash drive and rebooted ubuntu.  now i opened ooffice upon rebooting and selected "recent documents".  on the list that came up the .otd that froze while saving was still there.  when i clicked to open it from ooffice i get this, ".doc does not exist"
[15:27] <Xeneth> When a Cron is set to @weekly in crontab, when does it run?
[15:27] <alo21> hi all
[15:27] <alo21> can someone explane me how update-manager works. please?
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> alo21:  in what respect?
[15:27] <Xeneth> I mean what day/time
[15:28] <IdanSuper> how do i change first day of the week to sunday instead of monday?
[15:29] <IdanSuper> how do i change first day of the week to Sunday instead of Monday? thanks....
[15:29] <r00k19> i guess there is no way to recover it from the RAM memory since i rebooted
[15:29] <ssta> IdanSuper: the first day of the week IS sunday
[15:29] <IdanSuper> not in mine
[15:29] <Chicowolf> sudo apt-get install mkbootimg not works!!!
[15:29] <IdanSuper> in my clock applet its monday
[15:29] <ssta> IdanSuper: cron considers it the first...where are you wanting to change it?
[15:29] <IdanSuper> how do i fix it? please.. i wand sunday
[15:29] <IdanSuper> when you click on the clock
[15:29] <IdanSuper> on the top toolbar of unity
[15:29] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks.
[15:29] <ssta> IdanSuper: oh, I have no idea...probably you'd have to hack at the source
[15:30] <Chicowolf> sudo apt-get install mkbootimg not works!!!
[15:30] <ugur> Chicowolf: what does mkbooktimg do ?
[15:30] <IdanSuper> you seeing calendar
[15:30] <IdanSuper> in my friend sunday is the first day
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> Chicowolf:  there is no mkbootimg in  the ubuntu repos.. so ive no idea where you even got its name from
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> !find mkbootimg
[15:30] <IdanSuper> why in my os its monday?
[15:30] <Chicowolf> it make a boot.img of an android kernel
[15:30] <IdanSuper> you don't know?
[15:30] <ugur> !find abootimg
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> Chicowolf:  id say you need to find some more detailed android  docs.
[15:30] <GeorgeJ> I'm trying to install Virtualmin on 11.04. However, it requires the OS to be able to execute files from /tmp. Which, for some reason, my machine cannot do. I have just one mount, thus tmp is not mount as noexec.
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> IdanSuper  what timezone are you in?
[15:30] <IdanSuper> jerusalem israel
[15:30] <wanderingi> Whats a good download manager to use that can be run headless and that can be set to only download at certain times of the day?
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> IdanSuper: so you want sunday as the first day?
[15:31] <ugur> Chicowolf: sudo apt-get install abootimg
[15:31] <IdanSuper> yep
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> IdanSuper  is it not Monday in Israel?
[15:31] <GeorgeJ> What else could be stopping exeutables in tmp? This is the error: "-bash: /tmp/test: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied"
[15:31] <IdanSuper> no
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> ah
[15:31] <IdanSuper> israel isn't christian country..
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> IdanSuper: can you address the person you are replying to, writing 'yes' then 'no' is utterly confusing
[15:31] <Chicowolf> it doesn't work ugur
[15:32] <IdanSuper> yep to monkeydust
[15:32] <ssta> IdanSuper: I would guess it has something to do with locale
[15:32] <IdanSuper> and no** sorry
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> IdanSuper: so you want monday as the first day?
[15:32] <IdanSuper> in israel its sunday.. and that what i want.. i want sunday
[15:32] <IdanSuper> now it's monday on my first week applet
[15:32] <alo21> Dr_Willis: any ideas?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> IdanSuper: http://www.snowfrog.net/2008/02/06/change-first-day-of-week-in-ubuntus-gnome-calendar/
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> alo21:  on what?
[15:33] <ssta> IdanSuper: probably need to set LC_TIME to something...not sure what though
[15:33] <ugur> Chicowolf: sorry i find only abootimg in repos
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> IdanSuper: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=813945
[15:33] <alo21> Dr_Willis: how updates manager checks new availale updates
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> alo21:  runs somthing like 'sudo apt-get update'  would be my guess
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> alo21: it uses: sudo apt-get update
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> alo21:  why does it matter?
[15:35] <alo21> Dr_Willis: because I would like to make a new programme which cheks news
[15:35] <GeorgeJ> I'm trying to install Virtualmin on 11.04. However, it requires the OS to be able to execute files from /tmp. Which, for some reason, my machine cannot do. I have just one mount, thus tmp is not mount as noexec.
[15:35] <GeorgeJ> What else could be stopping exeutables in tmp? This is the error: "-bash: /tmp/test: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied"
[15:35] <ssta> except it doesn't use sudo :)
[15:36] <ssta> it's root cronjob
[15:36] <ssta> GeorgeJ: /tmp is often mounted noexec for security reasons
[15:36] <albech> how can i disable all this window snapping
[15:36] <albech> ?
[15:37] <GeorgeJ> ssta: I allready said it is not.
[15:37] <GeorgeJ> This is the only line `mount` outputs: "/dev/vzfs on / type reiserfs (rw,usrquota,grpquota)"
[15:38] <ssta> GeorgeJ: what's the shebang (first line) of /tmp/test?
[15:39] <ssta> GeorgeJ: and is /tmp/test executable?
[15:39] <llutz> GeorgeJ: /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/dash, maybe your test-script expects a link to bash
[15:39] <GeorgeJ> ssta: Copying /tmp/test outside tmp, works just fine
[15:39] <GeorgeJ> test is just a file I came up with, this is its contents: #!/bin/sh\necho It works!
[15:39] <GeorgeJ> \n is a newline
[15:39] <craigbass1976> My name is Craig, and my username is craig, but there's another name showing up (counter-right -- it's what I named the computer) in the login screen that I use for logging in.  It confuses people if the machine gets rebooted.  How do I make the login coice say Craig instead of counter-right?  There
[15:40] <GeorgeJ> Also, the file is executable, as I said, it executes just fine outside tmp.
[15:40] <ssta> GeorgeJ: I've usually seen that error because the noexec flag is set.
[15:40] <Jonta> Anyone come across, or have experiences themselves on [Evernote in Wine] vs [NixNote (prev: Nevernote]?
[15:40] <GeorgeJ> ssta: Yes, that's whats allover the internet. However, that's not the case, oddly.
[15:41] <craigbass1976> there's a GUI tool, but it says "an error occurred" and won't change the name.  Where is this stored?
[15:42] <ssta> GeorgeJ: I have no idea then, sorry...
[15:42] <ssta> GeorgeJ: how did you check what it was mounted as?
[15:42] <GeorgeJ> Yeah, it's pretty odd.
[15:42] <GeorgeJ> `mount` only outputs "/dev/vzfs on / type reiserfs (rw,usrquota,grpquota)"
[15:42] <GeorgeJ> Just that one line.
[15:43] <ssta> GeorgeJ: you're sure /tmp isn't a symlink to /var/tmp or something?
[15:43] <ssta> you only have one thing mounted?  That doesn't sound right at all!
[15:43] <ssta> there should be (at least) /proc as well
[15:43] <GeorgeJ> ssta: `ls -l /tmp` => -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 26 Jun  4 08:18 test
[15:43] <GeorgeJ> oops
[15:44] <ssta> by default Ubuntu has a half dozen virtual mounts (sysfs, devfs, tmpfs, binfmt_misc...)
[15:44] <llutz> GeorgeJ: sticky bit not set
[15:44] <GeorgeJ> `ls -ld /tmp` => drwxrwxrwt 3 root root 4096 Jun  4 08:42 /tmp
[15:44] <llutz> sry, misread
[15:45] <heoa> 12.04 has malfunctioning WLAN, ideas to fix it?
[15:45] <GeorgeJ> ssta: This is not a default instalation of ubuntu. It's a VS from mediatemple. Bah!
[15:47]  * PC-X69 234
[15:47] <PC-X69> 234
[15:47] <ssta> GeorgeJ: so in fact, /tmp could be mounted in all sorts of ways by the container?
[15:48] <GeorgeJ> ssta: I did not think of that.
[15:48] <GeorgeJ> It would appear so.
[15:49] <heoa> http://linuxblog.avserver.info/how-to-fix-wireless-problems-in-ubuntu-1204-precise-pangolin/ <-- perhaps solves the WiFi prob
[15:54] <sl00> Hi. I am looking for a filebrowser that support some kind of "library" view where I can select a number of folders that show up as if they where all in the same directory. I cannot seem to get that with the standard filebrowser.
[15:57] <kleopc> Hi. When I plug my headphones, it isn't recognized on lubuntu 12.04
[15:57] <GeorgeJ> How can mount points be hidden?
[15:57] <jrib> GeorgeJ: why?
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> GeorgeJ: sure, just have the folder starting with a period
[15:58] <kleopc> a right click doesn't work and sound settings are greyed
[15:58] <vonsar> can anyone recommend a reskin of the launch bar on the left of the screen? the default one is so ugly
[15:59] <ssta> GeorgeJ: when talking about vzfs, all kinds of ways.  A common thing is that there's only ONE /tmp across the whole container, which is mounted on fast storage for performance, but locked down *hard*....
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> vonsar  try MyUnity
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> vonsar: it will match your wallpaper appropriately, its good like that
[16:00] <ssta> GeorgeJ: once you get into VPS there are all kinds of stuff that the container does that are hidden from you...you don't own the hardware in the same way you would on a dedicated system
[16:00] <airstrike> hi. after upgrading to 12.04, unity sucks so hard i don't want it anymore
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> !notunity| airstrike
[16:00] <jrib> airstrike: so use another desktop environment
[16:00] <airstrike> is it possible to revert to gnome or something similar?
[16:00] <vonsar> MonkeyDust: thanks I'll check it out
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> airstrike: don't use it then, there are other shells or even desktops to use
[16:01] <ssta> GeorgeJ: for example, it's very common to share libraries across all VPS to save memory.  It's very clever, and generally a Good Thing.  Very occasionally it causes problems for use-cases which really ought not to be running on virtual
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> airstrike  choose something else in the lightdm login menu
[16:01] <airstrike> i get artifacts all over the screen whenever the computer returns from a sleep state and it's overall just laggy
[16:01] <airstrike> is there a way to debug what's going on?
[16:02] <vonsar> Can anyone recommend a good simple text editor which can launch from bash? vi is a little funky and sublimetext wont work from the cli :(
[16:02] <jrib> vonsar: nano
[16:02] <airstrike> vonsar: vim, which is vi improved
[16:02] <GeorgeJ> jrib: Because I wish to un-hide them.
[16:02] <airstrike> vonsar: or nano, if you're feeling newb
[16:02] <OerHeks> GeorgeJ, do you mean: mounted partitions appear on the unity-panel?
[16:02] <GeorgeJ> No, the mount command only displays one mount point.
[16:02] <GeorgeJ> However doing unmount /tmp worked. Even though it did not appear as a mount point.
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> airstrike: tried unity2D?
[16:03] <GeorgeJ> ssta: I see, thank you very much!
[16:03] <airstrike> ActionParsnip: i haven't
[16:03] <airstrike> what is it?
[16:04] <airstrike> !unity2d
[16:07] <vonsar> airstrike: thanks, nano looks good
[16:09] <PC-X69> l
[16:09] <nicofs> In chromium, how can I set mp3 files (or any other media file) to be opened externally?
[16:10] <airstrike> reboot, brb
[16:13] <irule> hi, I just installed a new ubuntu server and it halts on grub menu after a reboot, how may I make sure it starts?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> irule, what happens when you choose a kernel in grub ?
[16:16] <angs> how can I send a folder to a remote pc on the terminal?
[16:17] <BluesKaj> angs, remote on the internet or your LAN ?
[16:17] <angs> yes in my lan
[16:18] <rymate1234> hey
[16:18] <rymate1234> what's the ubuntu software centre package called?
[16:18] <BluesKaj> angs, what OS does the target pc use ?
[16:18] <angs> target pc is linux that runs angstroms distribution
[16:19] <KorvinSzanto> why can't /etc/hosts be an executable file =[
[16:19] <angs> host machine is ubuntu 12.
[16:19] <angs> 04
[16:19] <BluesKaj> !ssh | angs
[16:19] <llutz> angs: scp -r dir/to/copy user@remotehost:/path
[16:19] <angs> thanks a lot
[16:19] <llutz> KorvinSzanto: why should it be?
[16:20] <KorvinSzanto> so that I can grab stdin and route hostnames dynamically
[16:20] <KorvinSzanto> if not that, then wildcard hostnames
[16:20] <KorvinSzanto> *.somedomain.com
[16:20] <rymate1234> nvm found i
[16:20] <rymate1234> *it
[16:20] <Naphatul> is there a way to disable detection on some of the audio inputs?
[16:21] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[16:21] <Naphatul> because of the shitty case the microphone detection is going haywire and audioplayback is stuttering
[16:22] <Tassidar> Will ubuntu run on an ARM processor?
[16:22] <dlentz> !language | Naphatul
[16:22] <Naphatul> ok sorry
[16:22] <dlentz> Tassidar, yes, Ubuntu has ARM releases
[16:22] <DJones> !arm | Tassidar
[16:23] <Tassidar> Okay, has its own ARM release. Thanks!
[16:24] <nicofs> In Chromium, how can I have mp3 files played externally?
[16:24] <e_t_> Whenever I have a torrent running, I get huge numbers of hits on my firewall, mostly, but not all on port 1024. I have the standard bittorrent ports (6881-6999 and 7881-7999) open, so what is the reason for all these other connection attempts?
[16:25] <WJC-0205> hi guys
[16:25] <cromag> would it be possible to create a partition, to act like a mounted sd-card ? - is there really a difference ? if it's created with a FAT32 FS i.e
[16:26] <llutz> cromag: there is no difference
[16:27] <e_t_> cromag: A mounted block device is a mounted block device.
[16:27] <cromag> my thoughs
[16:27] <KorvinSzanto> This is the big one
[16:27] <KorvinSzanto> we're done for.
[16:27] <maxagaz> hi
[16:28] <maxagaz> I'm running ettercap -G in a virtual box, using subnet 10.0.x.x, how can I scan eth0 on 192.168.0.x instead of 10.0.x.x in it ?
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> maxagaz  set NAT to bridged
[16:29] <BluesKaj> e_t_, those the peers attempting to connect , most likely
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> maxagaz: +1 to what MonkeyDust said, you'll need to power off the VM first
[16:31] <sl00> I am looking for a filebrowser that support some kind of "library" view where I can select a number of locations where the contents of those are viewed as they were in the same location. Kind of like the library view in Windows7. Anyone know of one?
[16:31] <e_t_> BluesKaj: I'm mainly wondering why port 1024? I haven't found any associations of that port with torrenting.
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> sl00: tried thunar, pcmanfm?
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> sl00  you mean double view? if so, press F2 while in nautilus
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> sl00  you mean double view? if so, press F3 while in nautilus
[16:33] <BluesKaj> e_t_, dunno I don't use those default ports on torrent clients
[16:33] <WJC-0205> is there any alternative to silverlight for ubuntu? that would let me join in on company podcasts?
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> WJC-0205  moonlight
[16:34] <BluesKaj> WJC-0205, you could try moonlight
[16:34] <WJC-0205> cool thanks. will check it out.
[16:34] <maxagaz> MonkeyDust: set which NAT to bridged ? (my VB is on mac os x)
[16:34] <maxagaz> I already have access to the net and 192.168.x.x in the vb
[16:34] <KorvinSzanto> Is there any tool that makes editing hosts not so shitty
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> e_t_: port 1024 is Edwin+Esme according to IANA
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> maxagaz  network settings of the virtual machine
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> WJC-0205: moonlight is getting dropped soon, see omgubuntu
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> maxagaz: does the mac license allow virtualization?
[16:35] <e_t_> ActionParsnip: and I found associations with various other programs (and plenty of trojans/viruses) but nothing to do with bittorrent, thus my question.
[16:35] <17SABCMEJ> Hi folks I am trying to get an iscsi connection to automount to the filesystem on reboot. With an fstab entry it hangs waiting for it (obv this is pre-iscsi happening on reboot) how can i automate this remount?
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> e_t_: the app will choose a random port unless you tell it to use a set one (I assume you are using Transmission)
[16:36] <sl00> MonkeyDust: No. Not like the splitview in Nautilus.
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> 17SABCMEJ: add the option:  noboot     then in /etc/rc.local    add the command to mount the mount point. eg:  mount /media/point    add it above the exit 0 line
[16:37] <e_t_> ActionParsnip: I'm using KTorrent, but this channel is more active than #kubuntu and I didn't think my question was KTorrent specific.
[16:38] <Naphatul> bit of a crash there, anyway, how do i disable microphone detection?
[16:38] <17SABCMEJ> Thank you ActionParsnip, will give this a go
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> e_t_: its all good for kubuntu here :)
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> e_t_: its an official release so is fine
[16:38] <sl00> MonkeyDust: I want to view multiple locations i.e /mnt/hd1 + /mnt/hd2 as if they were just one location.
[16:39] <sl00> ActionParsnip: I have read about them but cannot find that kind of feature. Do you know that feature exist?
[16:39] <BluesKaj> e_t_, I didn't see you ask anything in #kubuntu :)
[16:39] <e_t_> BluesKaj: there's a good reason for that.
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> sl00: not something I use, try a few file browsers is all I can suggest
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> e_t_: set the port to whatever you prefer
[16:40] <WJC-0205> MonkeyDust , BluesKaj thanks for info on moonlight installed now and works flawlessly. cheers guys
[16:41] <maxagaz> ActionParsnip: I'm not virtualizing mac os, but ubuntu on mac os
[16:41] <LiquidEdge> Hey all
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> maxagaz: ahh, makes sense
[16:41] <LiquidEdge> So, I've been coming back to my computer after installing Precise and it has been rebooted.
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> maxagaz: if you set it to NAT, it will get an IP from your router and will appear just like another system on your LAN
[16:42] <ssta> they still disallow running OS X on anything except apple hardware :(
[16:42] <L3top> LiquidEdge: it doesn't normally reboot unless you tell it to, so it can warn you to remove the dvd
[16:42] <e_t_> ActionParsnip: I have, and I've opened the ports in my firewall. I wanted to check to see if the backscatter I'm getting is anything to worry about. My torrent client isn't complaining, and I'm able to seed, but it does fill up the syslog.
[16:42] <ssta> ActionParsnip: umm...you wure that's NAT?  Isn't that bridged?
[16:43] <llutz> ActionParsnip: that's not NAT
[16:43] <LiquidEdge> Seems to happen randomly.
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> yeah bridged. oops
[16:43] <LiquidEdge> L3top, No, everything is installed.
[16:43] <LiquidEdge> L3top, I'm on it right now.
[16:44] <LiquidEdge> L3top, I just come back to it sometimes and it has rebooted without me telling it to do so.
[16:44] <L3top> LiquidEdge: Perhaps I misunderstood your statement.
[16:44] <Naphatul> how do i disable front panel jack detection?
[16:45] <jiffe98> here we go again.. more problems with mdadm
[16:46] <L3top> LiquidEdge: ah... you should look through the logs in /var/log namely dmesg/syslog to see what is happening. What GPU do you have? And can you check your cpu temps with lm_sensors?
[16:46] <hectorh30> hi guys, how do I change the terminal emulator that shows up with ctrl + alt + t ?
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> jiffe98  we collectively rub our hands
[16:46] <Lihis> hi! i'm using ubuntu 12.04 and wine 1.5.5 with winetricks version 20120308. Does anyone else noticed that sometimes wine icon doesn't appear in launcher when it should be?
[16:46] <hectorh30> already tried with sudo update-alternatives –config x-terminal-emulator, but does not seem to do the trick
[16:46] <maxagaz> ActionParsnip: yes indeed, thanks for the trick :-)
[16:47] <taher> hi there
[16:47] <jiffe98> `mdadm --create --raid-devices=4 --level=10 --chunk=64 /dev/md127 /dev/sd[abcd]` is giving me 'mdadm: ADD_NEW_DISK for /dev/sdc failed: Device or resource busy'
[16:48] <taher> i want to install  squirrelmail server on my ubuntu server ..... can anyone give me an outline for this
[16:48] <jiffe98> brand new disks, not being used by anything
[16:49] <taher> i want to install  squirrelmail server on my ubuntu server ..... can anyone give me an outline for this
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> taher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Squirrelmail
[16:50] <taher> thanx : actionparsnip
[16:52] <aboudreault> is it safe to resize a ntfs partition with the installer?
[16:52] <ssta> as safe as anything that resizes ntfs partitions.  Yake a backup before doing it anyway
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> aboudreault  backup your data first
[16:53] <n2diy> how do you open a .docx file?
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> n2diy  libreoffice?
[16:53] <aboudreault> in windows... it says that I can only reduce my 700GB disk by 300GB, there is only 17GB used... and the disk is defragemented
[16:53] <aboudreault> hate that
[16:54] <n2diy> MonkeyDust, abiword can't do it?
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> n2diy  i have no .docx files, so don't know, why not try it yourself
[16:56] <n2diy> MonkeyDust, It contains a dozen xml files, I'm not sure which on to click on? I'm on the docx website now, maybe that will tell me? thanks.
[16:58] <maxagaz> ActionParsnip: do you know how to block the internet access of a given ip ?
[16:58] <Boohbah> n2diy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Open_XML#Application_support
[17:00] <avinashhm> Hi friends , is there any way to enable 'Desktop sharing' in command line .. i have a server for which i have no monitor and i would like to enable 'Desktop sharing' to vnc it .. any way to directly edit config files ?
[17:01] <DJones> avinashhm: Have you tried ssh? for access to your server
[17:01] <DJones> !ssh
[17:01] <ardizuri> hello everyone
[17:01] <avinashhm> DJones, yes, i have ssh working and i am having ssh enabled ..
[17:02] <DJones> avinashhm: Thats all I use on server
[17:02] <avinashhm> but i thnk vnc works with 'Desktop Sharing' .. which needs to be enabled via menu based System -> Settings -> Desktop sharing
[17:02] <ardizuri> I'm encountering problems connecting my hp printer to ubuntu 12.04
[17:03] <ardizuri> I mean, I've already tried what they said here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1587870
[17:03] <avinashhm> DJones, with that u could only remote connect to shell ; but there is no way to use GUI on server ..
[17:03] <ardizuri> it is a HP 1566 laserjet printer
[17:03] <ardizuri> at the beginning, when it wasn't working, it appeared that ubuntu did detect it
[17:04] <ardizuri> (but it was not working)
[17:04] <danqing> '
[17:04] <danqing> '
[17:04] <ardizuri> and I deleted it at the printer device list
[17:04] <ardizuri> any idea?
[17:04] <DJones> avinashhm: Server doesn't have a gui installed by default, without that I don't know whether there would be any way of enabling desktop sharing
[17:05] <ardizuri> HPlip is neither detecting it
[17:06] <ardizuri> so it's as I had nothing connected
[17:06] <L3top> !enter
[17:06] <ardizuri> it's a bit frustrating
[17:07] <PC-X69> f
[17:07] <17SABCMEJ> ActionParsnip, so... i added the mount /dev/sdx /mnt/test line to rc.local... but its a no go, because i have to be root in order to do this is there something special i have to do to rc.local or to my command, thanks.
[17:07] <avinashhm> DJones, i am using a 'Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop edition ' ; just that i am using that machine as a server .. so in my case it has the GUI enabled ; i am trying to enable Desktop sharing
[17:07] <ardizuri> actually I can make it work with no issues in wndo$e
[17:09] <subrosa> Hey guys not sure if this is the right channel to ask this but If not I apologize and please just tell me where to go. I have Ubuntu, PHP-FPM, and Nginx setup and am trying to send and recieve email but I can't get it going would I be using Ubuntu for this?
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> 17SABCMEJ: you can run:  gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local     and get write access
[17:10] <DJones> avinashhm: I've not used desktop sharing myself so I'm not sure what to suggest
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> 17SABCMEJ: the command will be ran as root
[17:10] <avinashhm> DJones, np :-) .. will check out more to find which are the control files for that applicatoin .. Thanks for helping out
[17:11] <17SABCMEJ> ActionParsnip, i had no trouble editing the file..
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> 17SABCMEJ: so where is the issue?
[17:12] <n2diy> MonkeyDust, Boohbah, thanks, docx.net has converters that I'm going to try out.
[17:12] <17SABCMEJ> ActionParsnip, df does not show the filesystem, fdisk -l shows the block device however no mounting is happening
[17:12] <17SABCMEJ> despite the mount command in rc.local
[17:13] <Boohbah> n2diy: don't you have libreoffice?
[17:13] <17SABCMEJ> ActionParsnip, on the cli i can issue mount /dev/sdx /mnt/test and it does mount
[17:13] <17SABCMEJ> ActionParsnip, but when in rc.local, the same command does not seem to yield the result on startup
[17:13] <Neuhmaan> Bonjour !
[17:14] <Neuhmaan> Hi * sorry
[17:14] <17SABCMEJ> ActionParsnip, thanks for the help
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> 17SABCMEJ: you just need:  mount /mnt/test     and the entry will be read from fstab
[17:16] <globe_> prototype 2
[17:16] <rahul_> hi
[17:16] <rahul_> i have amd phenom processor 32 bit
[17:16] <rahul_> which desktop version should i use?
[17:17] <rahul_> intel x86 or amd64
[17:17] <rahul_> ?
[17:17] <DJones> rahul_: the AMD64 is for 64 bit processors, so use the 32 bit version
[17:17] <Kanerix> If you havea 32 bit processor, you can only use a 32 bit OS
[17:18] <rahul_> okay
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> rahul_: do phenoms come in 32bit flavour?
[17:18] <Kanerix> Probably
[17:18] <rahul_> i saw the machines now
[17:19] <rahul_> in windows properties its showing 32 bit
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> rahul_: thats your 32bit version of windows
[17:19] <Kanerix> ...
[17:19] <Kanerix> That's windows, not the processor
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> rahul_: which phenom do you have?
[17:19] <sergeantcupcake> hey can someone recommend some good free games that will run on very old hardware?
[17:19] <rahul_> II
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> rahul_: windows device manager will tell yoy
[17:20] <rahul_> x3 b75
[17:20] <rahul_> ok
[17:20] <NielsMkn> hey folks
[17:20] <NielsMkn> need a bit help
[17:20] <NielsMkn> I was hoping to try out this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/PreciseJackDetectionTesting
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> rahul_: http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AMD-Phenom%20II%20X3%20B75%20-%20HDXB75WFK3DGI.html   64bit CUP
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> CPU
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> rahul_: how much RAM do you have?
[17:20] <sergeantcupcake> NielsMkn: hi!
[17:21] <REK_007> rahul_: both will work .. if you have <3GB ram then 32bit if more then 64bit
[17:21] <NielsMkn> hey sergeantcupcake :)
[17:21] <sergeantcupcake> nielsmkn: how can i help you?
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> rahul_: use 64bit, it will make life easier in the future for RAM upgrades and so forth
[17:21] <NielsMkn> well I followed the steps in this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/PreciseJackDetectionTesting
[17:21] <rahul_> okay
[17:21] <Lihis> sergeantcupcake: gta2 is good and free :)
[17:21] <rahul_> so i should go for amd 64
[17:22] <sergeantcupcake> lihis: ok thanks!
[17:22] <NielsMkn> but when I tried uname -a in the terminal, I didn't get the given resut.
[17:22] <sergeantcupcake> nielsmkn: im afraid im not too experienced in that area. sorry :/
[17:22] <rahul_> thanks all for helping
[17:22] <rahul_> have a nice day :)
[17:22] <NielsMkn> oh
[17:22] <NielsMkn> no problem :)
[17:22] <sirriffsalot> Hey! I'm enjoying LXDE but can't get keybinds to work with obhotkey... whatever keybind I try to set it always tells me "xml.parsers.expat.ExpatError: no element found: line 317, column 45" with different numbers depending on the specific command
[17:23] <fraterm> hmmm... is there an enhancement to network configuration for ubuntu that allows the network proxy configuration to be as feature-rich as firefox browsers?
[17:23] <NielsMkn> can anyone tell me what a pae kernel is?
[17:23] <sergeantcupcake> nielsmkn:God bless mate
[17:23] <fraterm> in terms of no_proxy env var.
[17:23] <fraterm> which doesn't seem to work.
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> NielsMkn: allows 32bit kernel to access up to 64Gb RAM with a software hack
[17:23] <genii-around> !pae
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> NielsMkn: you can see all the RAM but each process will only be able to see 3.2Gb RAM
[17:24] <roasted> Question - I have a USB mouse on my Toshiba ultrabook. It shuts off the mouse after 3-4 seconds of use. Tried different mice and different USB ports... still same deal... anybody else seeing this?
[17:24] <NielsMkn> ah ActionParsnip , but since I am running 64 bit ubuntu (with 6 GB RAM), I won't have the pae kernel right?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> NielsMkn: you don't need it. 64bit CPU can access 4Eb of RAM
[17:25] <NielsMkn> ah great. So this command sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-8-generic=3.2.0-8.14+jackdetection3
[17:26] <NielsMkn> will change my default kernel to 'something 3.2.0-8-generic #14+jackdetection3 ' right?
[17:28] <kb> hello.  i just upgraded to 11.1 and am trying to edit the grub.cfg file (which i used to do before with no problem), but all of a sudden getting an error message about not being able to save it because it is not able to make a back up copy first
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> kb: you don't edit that file, it even says at the topof it
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> kb: what are you wanting to do?
[17:29] <kb> simply changing the default and the timeout... i have done so in the past, no problem
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> kb: you change that in /etc/default/grub    then run:  sudo update-grub
[17:29] <Jancoover_> ##english
[17:29] <NielsMkn> :O
[17:29] <kb> ok.  i even tried that just now, but same error
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> kb: that file is generated, so any changes will be lost when a new kernel is installed
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> kb: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[17:30] <brkylmz> Beyler Türk var mı yardıma ihtiyacım var
[17:30] <kb> yeah i know. that's what happened before. the etc/default/grub is a better idea i should have been doing before, and i intend to do now
[17:30] <kb> ok, i'll try actionparsnip
[17:31] <brkylmz> Selam millet Türkçe bilen var mi?
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> !tr
[17:32] <kb> halleluyah
[17:32] <kb> thank you action
[17:32] <roasted> Question - I have a USB mouse on my Toshiba ultrabook. It shuts off the mouse after 3-4 seconds of use. Tried different mice and different USB ports... still same deal... anybody else seeing this?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> kb: thats the correct way to edit it
[17:32] <iLogical> hello
[17:32] <kb> never used "gk..." before
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> roasted: is usb legacy mode enabled in the BIOS?
[17:32] <NielsMkn> exit
[17:32] <NielsMkn> oops :P
[17:32] <iLogical> mixer isn't remembering a capture volume, ubuntu 12.04, xfce
[17:32] <NielsMkn> see ya
[17:32] <roasted> ActionParsnip: not entirely sure. Is what I'm seeing a common symptom of that?
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> kb: its how you run GUI apps with extra priveledges, a graphical sudo if you will
[17:33] <kb> and so now, even with updates, i won't have to continually edit it, which is good
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> kb: exactly :)
[17:33] <kb> ok sweet.  thanks again action!
[17:33] <kb> bye
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> peace
[17:38] <Jancoover> my ubuntu is out of its mind. I can't even boot my computer! Grub pops up some error and nothing else
[17:39] <Jancoover> what shall I do guys?
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Jancoover: do you get to select a kernel?
[17:39] <genii-around> Jancoover: The exact error might be helpful
[17:39] <ShinyObjects> Heya. I have an odd situation
[17:39] <llutz> Jancoover: tell us what " some error " is
[17:39] <Jancoover> How shall I replace grup with windows downloader?
[17:39] <ShinyObjects> I have an external hard drive hooked up to my computer
[17:39] <ShinyObjects> and I'm trying to make it world accessible
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Jancoover: did you install with wubi?
[17:40] <ShinyObjects> chmod -R 755 . as root does nothing
[17:40] <ShinyObjects> it still seems to only have owner permissions.
[17:40] <Jancoover> I can't print it:there are only senseless symbols
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects: what file system is the partition?
[17:40] <ShinyObjects> ActionParsnip: Pretty sure ext3
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Jancoover: did you install using wubi?
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects: you can check with:  sudo fdisk -l
[17:41] <ShinyObjects> ActionParsnip: Looks like mount claims it's mounted with fuseblk
[17:41] <roasted> ActionParsnip: usb legacy is enabled in bios :(
[17:41] <Jancoover> I dunno,ActionParnship. I had it installed in a service center
[17:41] <ShinyObjects> Likely a Nautilus automount
[17:42] <ShinyObjects> Huh - looks like I never repartitioned this disk - it's still NTFS
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects: what does fdisk say it is?
[17:42] <ShinyObjects> Eww.
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects: thats why then :)
[17:42] <ShinyObjects> But it's definitely not read only - I can copy files over all I want as the owner.
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> roasted: try turning it off then, switch it to the other option
[17:42] <ShinyObjects> I just can't, for some reason, change permissions
[17:42] <roasted> ActionParsnip: eh, it seems like it's working now.
[17:43] <roasted> ActionParsnip: wonder if the reboot alone helped
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects: NTFS can't hold link ACLs. You will need to specify it at mount time
[17:43] <ShinyObjects> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure what that means, I'm sorry
[17:44] <stephanie1> ok i hope that worked
[17:44] <ShinyObjects> (googling...)
[17:44] <stephanie1> ActionParsnip you still here around?
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects: you set the access (write, read, execute) when you mount the NTFS and the access is used for all the data)
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> stephanie1: nar ;)
[17:45] <stephanie1> u used to help me with my audio all the time
[17:45] <ShinyObjects> ActionParsnip: do you suppose -o allow_other would work? That's what I usually use with sshfs....
[17:45] <Toph2> stephanie1,,, did you ever pay up?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> stephanie1: my audio troubleshooting sucks, maybe others can assist
[17:46] <llutz> !ntfs | ShinyObjects you use uid/gid/umask/fmask as mount-options
[17:46] <ShinyObjects> Looks like allow_other didn't help :)
[17:47] <stephanie1> ActionParsnip all is good no audio help needed i just was surprised u are here still
[17:47] <ShinyObjects> thanks llutz
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> stephanie1: if you run:  alsamixer   are all levels cranked and unmuted?
[17:48] <stephanie1> i rather look for solution with virtual machine is best on ubuntu to do encodes?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> stephanie1: also what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[17:48] <stephanie1> which*
[17:49] <mobius420> if there is anybody who might be willing to take a moment to help me with my linux computer, I would greatly appreciate it
[17:50] <ariana> what s with your PC?
[17:50] <ubuntu_> hi all
[17:51] <ubuntu_> i wish someone can help me, today i cannot start ubuntu
[17:51] <ariana> ubuntu_, whad did U do with it?
[17:52] <ubuntu_> showing checking battery state, and hold for long time
[17:52] <ariana> ubuntu_, without battery? is is empty? or so?
[17:53] <ubuntu_> i tried to update the grub, but take long time, so i shut it down, then it appear this commands
[17:53] <zvacet> how to switch user in cinnamon
[17:53] <ubuntu_> is it possible to update grub?
[17:53] <xangua> zvacet: you have the instructions at the cinnamon site, but remember cinnamon is not supported here
[17:53] <ubuntu_> i am using now live cd
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> zvacet: Cinammon isn't supported here but there are PPAs around
[17:54] <jkbe> zvacet, in cinnamon you need to find gmdflexi
[17:54] <SoulShadow> cinnamon is sexy
[17:54] <jkbe> with that program you can change users in cinnamon
[17:54] <ubuntu_> ariana: there is no prblem with battery
[17:54] <roasted> I installed phpsysinfo on my server so I can go to the URL and see basic stats. Curious if there's a way to default the theme that it comse down in, though?
[17:55] <ariana> ubuntu_, ok it seems you switched it off and now U wanna update grub2
[17:55] <Jonta> Anyone come across, or have experiences themselves on [Evernote in Wine] vs [NixNote (prev: Nevernote]?
[17:55] <ubuntu_> ariana: how can i update grub2
[17:56] <humanassigned> Jonta, i have used nixnote and found it to be excellent
[17:56] <ariana> ubuntu_, have you tried: sudo update-grub
[17:56] <MrBushido> i created a user to run a service and wanted to give it (and other users) access to another directory by creating a group. to get this to work on my own account i had to log in and out for the new group to register, but naturally nobody logs in and out of the daemon user. how do i fix this so the daemon can get access to the group directory?
[17:56] <ubuntu_> but i am running live cd
[17:56] <ubuntu_> i will try now
[17:56] <zvacet> tnx everyone
[17:56] <ariana> ubuntu_, no such command?
[17:57] <ShinyObjects> MrBushido: have you tried restarting the service?
[17:57] <MrBushido> yup
[17:57] <ubuntu_> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[17:57] <MrBushido> and restarting the machine
[17:57] <Jonta> humanassigned: Thanks. OCR as well?
[17:57] <ShinyObjects> Hmm.
[17:57] <humanassigned> eh?
[17:57] <ShinyObjects> I sort of thought that'd work :)
[17:57] <stephanie1> i need a little help, i try to find the best virtual machine for doing encodes
[17:57] <MrBushido> me too :'<
[17:57] <humanassigned> ooo, idk, dont really utilize it for this functionality,
[17:57] <ubuntu_> ariana: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[17:58] <stephanie1> which is best for using all the cpus too
[17:58] <llutz> stephanie1: encode what? why in a vm with limited cpu/ram?
[17:58] <ariana> ubuntu_, you should probably mount your device
[17:58] <stephanie1> its a server
[17:58] <stephanie1> llutz
[17:58] <ariana> ubuntu_, click places and hdd
[17:58] <llutz> stephanie1: encode what? why in a vm with limited cpu/ram?
[17:58] <stephanie1> llutz because the most progs i use to encode for bluray is in windows
[17:59] <ubuntu_> ariana: i didnt understant, can you please?
[17:59] <Jonta> humanassigned: Optical Character Recognition
[17:59] <humanassigned> yea... i can check if it works, thats not really important for my usage so dont know off top of head
[17:59] <ubuntu_> ariana: i didnt understand what mean places and hdd, can you please advice?
[18:00] <Jonta> humanassigned: Great. Thanks!
[18:00] <llutz> stephanie1: time to find some linux-tools for it
[18:00] <rickycole> who can help me with installation of ATI drivers for Lubuntu?
[18:01] <ShinyObjects> stephanie1:  I think libdvdcss may do it, but I don't know for sure - I haven't really messed with blu-ray.
[18:01] <humanassigned> Jonta, it seems to be finding text in jpegs i had posted inside of nixnote
[18:01] <stephanie1> llutz i tried but i failed working wih them i used avidemux or what it was called, my question is is there a vm that is good or close enough to run to encode?
[18:01] <humanassigned> also in pdf
[18:01] <Jonta> humanassigned: Great. Thanks for your help. I'll start using it :D
[18:01] <cdown> Hi -- I'm setting up an Ubuntu machine, there is a huge delay on VC login. Everything is as installed from the minimal CD. What is the issue?
[18:02] <cdown> This is a standard thing with VC login, it seems.
[18:03] <wilhart> hello, hi. Cani use KDE4 with compiz?
[18:04] <wilhart> i mean compiz with kde4 if i disable the kde effects?
[18:04] <llutz> stephanie1: since video-encoding is cpu-intense job and vm are always have limited resources... no
[18:04] <rickycole> how do I install radeon graphics drivers correctly?
[18:04] <jagginess> !ati
[18:05] <stephanie1> llutz thank you thats what i thought
[18:05] <jagginess> rickycole, there's a built-in default radeon and there's ati's driver
[18:05] <njok> So I ran fsck and after it finished my .mozilla folder was gone. Is there anything I can do to restore my bookmarks? :/ lost+found?
[18:05] <xangua> wilhart: well you could, but what does compiz has that kwin don't¿
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> njok: use your backups
[18:06] <njok> they are a bit older :P
[18:06] <ShinyObjects> stephanie1: you can still do it, it'd just be pretty slow
[18:06] <rickycole> yes, but the graphics are not working and it has not recognised any graphic cards
[18:06] <stephanie1> thanks guys and llutz and it was great to see u ActionParsnip
[18:06] <njok> aren't normally the backups in the mozilla folder?
[18:06] <stephanie1>  yes ShinyObjects i will try it
[18:07] <stephanie1> tc all
[18:07] <ShinyObjects> The good news is that most of the cpu-intensive parts of encoding don't involve a lot of i/o
[18:07] <ShinyObjects> not very many system calls and the like
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> njok: you can backup to the web or make a manual backup along with your regular data backup...
[18:07] <ShinyObjects> Which means fewer kernel traps...
[18:07] <ShinyObjects> which means lower virtualization overhead
[18:07] <stephanie1> ShinyObjects  my server is pretty good
[18:07] <ubuntu_> guys, anyone can help with updating grub 2?
[18:07] <ShinyObjects> so it might not be that much slower
[18:08] <ZystemFryar> anyone here having issues with 11.10 and youtube playback in Chrome ?
[18:08] <aboudreault> It looks like the installer doesn't detect properly the size of my raid partition (3tb). It shows 801.6GB... what can I do ?
[18:08] <Dan39> ok stephanie1
[18:08] <Dan39> let see :P
[18:08] <stephanie1> stalker Dan39
[18:08] <njok> yeah I made a manual backup a few months ago, was just asking about the lost recent ones :/
[18:08] <Dan39> VM for video encoding...
[18:08] <Dan39> trust me guys, ive tried working with her to use linux utilities
[18:08] <Dan39> lol
[18:09] <stephanie1> ShinyObjects so if its possible what vm would u suggest?
[18:09] <Dan39> ive been looking
[18:09] <oCean> Dan39: do you have an actual support question?
[18:09] <stephanie1> Dan39 are u saying im terrible?
[18:09] <stephanie1> yes we do
[18:09] <Dan39> oCean: no im trying to help stephanie1
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> ZystemFryar: can you give the output of:  lsb_release -a;uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[18:09] <ShinyObjects> stephanie1: do you mean what virtualization software?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> ZystemFryar: use a pastebin to host the output
[18:10] <Dan39> and yes my support question is the same as hers
[18:10] <stephanie1> ShinyObjects i guess yes something that works good enough to use the server sources
[18:10] <Dan39> how to best do windows video encoding on a ubuntu 11.04 server
[18:10] <stephanie1> 12.04
[18:10] <Dan39> err
[18:10] <Dan39> 12.04
[18:10] <carl_> I have what I hope is a simple question. I need a bash script that will enter the password when asked. I need to cron a "SCP" file copy.
[18:10] <carl_> anyone know how that can be done?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Dan39: the server has no GUI so will be great if you can tame mencoder / ffmpeg
[18:11] <llutz> carl_: you want to use ssh-keys
[18:11] <Dan39> ActionParsnip: we have kde running :D
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Dan39: then its not server, its a desktop OS
[18:11] <ShinyObjects> carl_: Two ways come to mind. Using keys instead of passwords, or if you MUST use a password then look into a tool called "expect"
[18:11] <Dan39> well i guess now it is
[18:11] <stephanie1> ActionParsnip my bad i wqanted a remote desktop
[18:12] <ZystemFryar> ii flashplugin-downloader:i386 11.2.202.235ubuntu0.11.10.1 Adobe Flash Player plugin installer (transitional package)
[18:12] <ZystemFryar> ii flashplugin-installer 11.2.202.235ubuntu0.11.10.1 Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[18:12] <Dan39> it was originaly installed as i ubuntu 11.10 server
[18:12] <Dan39> then i upgraded to 12.04 and installed kde
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> ZystemFryar: run the WHOLE command, then use:  http://pastie.org  to host
[18:12] <Dan39> runs pretty will right now, besides a bug with Kwin + NX
[18:12] <carl_> llutz, I was looking at ssh-keys, but google did not provide a very clear how-to for me to reference . Can you reccomend one?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Dan39: why install server when you wanted a desktop OS?
[18:13] <stephanie1> ActionParsnip u need to use a server in the ovh server before u install a desktop os
[18:13] <Dan39> ActionParsnip: its already done, why all the questions?
[18:13] <Dan39> im not going to redo it now
[18:13] <Dan39> so stop asking :|
[18:13] <llutz> carl_: http://www.debuntu.org/ssh-key-based-authentication   + "man scp"
[18:13] <stephanie1> ShinyObjects u here?
[18:13] <carl_> Thank you, I will give that a read.
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Dan39: just curious, just seems like a roundabout way to get to the same end, rather than installing Kubuntu and doing it in one move
[18:14] <Dan39> right now im looking at QEMU or vmware
[18:14] <Dan39> ActionParsnip: i agree
[18:14] <Dan39> ActionParsnip: i wasnt sure if ovh had a desktop os image
[18:14] <Dan39> ActionParsnip: now that i look i believe they did have 11.10 desktop, lesson learned
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> :)
[18:15] <stephanie1> ohh well my fault i guess
[18:15] <Dan39> ive been reading good things about QEMU having awsome performance with some stuff
[18:16] <Dan39> were not gaming, so dont have to worry about fancy gpu stuff
[18:16] <Dan39> well steph is the one using it
[18:16] <Krambiorix> hi guys, i try to connect via ssh to my server by going to Places >> Connect to Server, but i get the error: ssh program unexpectedly exited
[18:16] <ZystemFryar> http://pastebin.com/gnz7QrbW
[18:16] <Dan39> i use tcextract/x264/mkvmerge commands and im happy :P
[18:16] <chipotle> is there any way to get php5.2.x on ubuntu via aptitude?
[18:16] <stephanie1> but im not happy
[18:16] <Dan39> indeed
[18:16] <ZystemFryar> sorry, I'm remote, and kind of hard to do this over VNC
[18:17] <ZystemFryar> Firefox is Fine, just Chrome plays videos about 1.5x faster
[18:17] <dorgan1> i am trying to use wget to download a list of files from an apache directory listing I want all the files to go into one specific folder but it seems wget it creating the site hierarchy and downloading it into the appropriate folders, is there a way to just have it download the files without creating the hierarchy?
[18:18] <Xeneth> Where can I go to find out the color code when I use ls?
[18:18] <aaas> dorgan1 is downloadthemall firefox plugin an option?
[18:18] <p1ppppp> hey pals, I hope you are all doing just great!  I'm wondering if there is a client that supports grooveshark natively on linux
[18:19] <xangua> aaas: an option for...... ¿
[18:19] <aaas> xangua what he wants to do...if he wants it in a script then no... if he just wants files in a folder, then yes
[18:20] <Krambiorix> anyone?? i try to connect via ssh to my server by going to Places >> Connect to Server, but i get the error: ssh program unexpectedly exited
[18:20] <dorgan1> aaas: no, i am trying to make this a cronjob
[18:20] <xangua> p1ppppp:  there is nuvola player, also clementine; both have sound menu support
[18:20] <p1ppppp> xangua: O'll try out nuvola thanks
[18:20] <aaas> dorgan1 are you trying to sync files?
[18:22] <trism> dorgan1: maybe look at the --cut-dirs option to wget
[18:24] <ZystemFryar> ActionParsnip, I couldnt post to Pastie.org, its blocked from where I am it seems
[18:25] <ZystemFryar> hence why the pastbin
[18:25] <p1ppppp> xangua: I'm having a problem with nuvola, no sound but the songs "plays"
[18:26] <xangua> p1ppppp: well i don't use it so i don't know what to say
[18:26] <p1ppppp> xangua: no prob.
[18:29] <yahya> hii
[18:29] <roasted> Anybody have any trouble streaming .avi files through Chrome on Ubuntu? I can't seem to get it to work. It buffers... but does nothing else... never plays. Firefox works great though.
[18:29] <dboy_mi> hi guys .. if i have a question about a ubuntu 10.04 installed on a usb device is this tha right place? or have to go on the forum ?
[18:30] <Amaury92> Through Chrome? I will test. Please wait a minute. Ubuntu 12.04?
[18:30] <OerHeks> p1ppppp, https://launchpad.net/~nuvola-player-builders/+archive/stable
[18:31] <Amaury92> @roasted I have no problem here (Ubuntu 12.04; the last version of Chrome).
[18:31] <Amaury92> Sorry.
[18:35] <Guest54667> hi
[18:35] <jkbe> evening:)
[18:35] <Guest54667> new to tjis opp-sys,any tips
[18:36] <cog_> How do I reinstall while preserving my Mathematica installation?
[18:36] <drahti> help?
[18:38] <drahti> after an update to 1204 i am not able to log in to x
[18:38] <serban> i have two ubuntu computers: 1st one behind nat, and second one with a public ip; can i ssh from the 1st to the 2nd and open a port on the 1st?
[18:39] <serban> so the 2nd computer will access localhost:port which will get forwarded to 1stcomputer:port-whatever ?
[18:40] <drahti> my ubuntu will boot to gdm but from there i get no wm
[18:40] <llutz> serban:i guess you want to read about ssh reverse-tunneling (-R)
[18:40] <serban> thanks
[18:41] <aaas> serban open a port on your router?
[18:41] <aaas> serban sorry missed all that nm
[18:42] <geothomac> does anybody know how can i make iso with clonezilla ubuntu 12.04?
[18:43] <Zentaur> hi
[18:43] <ubuntu_> guys, i want to format my pc, and install new ubuntu, i want to copy my home folder, but it look like Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop
[18:43] <ubuntu_> canot access it
[18:43] <ubuntu_> can anyone help please?
[18:43] <ubuntu_> i just need this folder
[18:44] <Zentaur> i'm looking for a way to add an applicaion to the new menu in 12.04. I mean in the left upper corner.
[18:44] <albech_> how can i disable window snapping?
[18:44] <dboy_mi> @Zentaur drag and drop ?
[18:44] <albech_> it is causing some strange behavior
[18:45] <ubuntu_> guys, there is 300 people here, no one can advise? or everybody here to ask questions?
[18:45] <Zentaur> no, i don't mean that application bar
[18:46] <Zentaur> i mean when you press the win*** button
[18:46] <drahti> help an update is gone wrong
[18:46] <Zentaur> how do you call that menu?
[18:46] <michael_> ubuntu_: chown and chmod are 2 commands which can help you out
[18:46] <Alied> ubuntu_, your home folder is on same partition with system ?
[18:46] <KodeXs> Hello
[18:46] <KodeXs> I am looking for some help,
[18:47] <KodeXs> echo?
[18:47] <Guest2287> hy!
[18:47] <michael_> KodeXs: just explain your issue
[18:48] <KodeXs> kool how do i upgrade ubuntu 10.10 without installing apache and things idont need
[18:48] <michael_> KodeXs: why would apache be installed when you upgrade ubuntu
[18:48] <KodeXs> iidk its on my server
[18:48] <drahti> hmm hier ist aber nicht viel los...
[18:48] <KodeXs> The following packages will be upgraded:   apache2 apache2-doc apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-bin   apache2.2-common apt apt-utils bind9 bind9-host bind9utils bzip2   ca-certificates cifs-utils cpp-4.4 dhcp3-client dhcp3-common gcc-4.4-base   initramfs-tools initramfs-tools-bin initscripts ldap-utils libbind9-60   libbz2-1.0 libc-bin libc6 libcups2 libdbus-1-3 libdns66 libfreetype6   libgnutls26 libgssapi-krb5-2 libisc60 
[18:49] <michael_> you must have installed apache yourself
[18:49] <michael_> or installed something which depends on apache
[18:49] <KodeXs> i just want the security upgrades
[18:49] <michael_> KodeXs: yes that is what you get anyway...
[18:49] <michael_> you installed apache yourself
[18:50] <michael_> if you dont want apache then remove it
[18:50] <KodeXs> what you mean?
[18:50] <KodeXs> michael
[18:50] <KodeXs> nah idont have apache installed now
[18:50] <drahti>  mein ubuntu bootet bis gdm aber von dort bekomme ich keinen wm
[18:50] <KodeXs> or maybe i do
[18:50] <DrHalan> hey guys, i am searching for psychological law that describes that people always prefer the userinterface that they learned first. can you help me?	
[18:50] <KodeXs> :P
[18:50] <mipsie3> i'm having a apt-get blockage on icedtea6-plugin anyone have a clue how to clear it
[18:50] <michael_> KodeXs: it's quite simple, upgrading ubuntu will not install apache
[18:50] <llutz> !de | drahti
[18:50] <michael_> ergo you installed it yourself previously
[18:50] <KodeXs> oke how do i remove apache
[18:51] <KodeXs> lol yeah coming to think of it
[18:51] <mkanyicy> KodeXs, run the update manager and the stuff you are not ready to upgrade
[18:51] <drahti> thx :-)
[18:51] <sbattey_> DrHalan That would be incorrect, I can't stand windows 98...
[18:51] <KodeXs> iam on command line
[18:51] <KodeXs> only
[18:51] <KodeXs> GUI is not needed
[18:51] <michael_> sudo apt-get remove apache2 && sudo apt-get autoremove
[18:51] <KodeXs> purge apache?
[18:51] <Mansa-ito> Il y a-t-il des FR ?
[18:51] <KodeXs> #purge apache?
[18:51] <michael_> KodeXs: just do the command i just posted
[18:51] <mipsie3> yeah i think update-manager cleared it
[18:51] <sbattey_> sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2 apache2-utils
[18:52] <netmk> Mansa-ito: anglais seulement.
[18:52] <Mansa-ito> WTF ?
[18:52] <graham_king> Mansa-ito: Il y a un #ubuntu-fr
[18:52] <sbattey_> --purge will remove apache and all config
[18:52] <netmk> Mansa-ito: va sur #ubuntu-fr si tu veux de l'aide
[18:52] <Mansa-ito> Dank !
[18:52] <Mansa-ito> Viel Danke
[18:52] <michael_> sbattey: all the dependencies wont get removed unless he does an autoremove too
[18:53] <KodeXs> oke but when i want to upgrade it still says apache
[18:53] <KodeXs> Reading state information... Done The following packages will be upgraded:   apache2-doc apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-bin apache2.2-common   apt apt-utils bind9 bind9-host bind9utils bzip2 ca-certificates cifs-utils
[18:53] <KodeXs> derp
[18:54] <netmk> you just removed 'apache2'
[18:54] <michael_> KodeXs: did you do a sudo apt-get autoremove?
[18:54] <hid> Hi I was on Linuxmint12 and I wanna switch to xubuntu 12.4 . Can I do a manual partitionning ?
[18:54] <sbattey_> sudo apt-get autoremove
[18:54] <KodeXs> yeah i just did that
[18:54] <stones_> Hi guys. I did ubuntu install on a laptop and then moved the drive to another laptop (initial laptop wont boot from cdrom and its a touch pad) I moved the drive over to the other laptop after installation... I see the kernel menu but when I press entier to boot it just sits on a black screen with cursor
[18:54] <hid> Could I have a boot problem ?
 derp <-- could you explain me this word derp?
[18:55] <stones_> is there a way to get ubuntu to detect the new hardware and boot up?
[18:55] <ikonia> stones_: it does
[18:55] <keith__> how does ubuntu compare to cinnamon
[18:55] <ikonia> keith__: cinnamon is a desktop
[18:55] <ikonia> keith__: not a distro
[18:55] <KodeXs> great so i have apache malware
[18:55] <KodeXs> :P
[18:55] <michael_> KodeXs: it's possible those packages are marked as manually installed
[18:55] <Mansoor> can ny i solve my problem
[18:55] <michael_> KodeXs: no no malware involved
[18:56] <KodeXs> yes its a OS reload from my hosting company < vm image
[18:56] <KodeXs> so i cant remove it?
[18:56] <ikonia> KodeXs: can you please pastebin the output of uname -a
[18:56] <michael_> KodeXs: sudo apt-get remove apache2-doc apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-bin apache2.2-common   apt apt-utils bind9 bind9-host bind9utils bzip2 ca-certificates cifs-utils
[18:56] <Mansoor> i am not able to see terminal
[18:56] <tbrwon> Am going to try to install Gnome Class 2.28 on Ubuntu 12.04 Minimal iso:)
[18:56] <Mansoor> please help
[18:57] <netmk> woah woah michael_ , you're having him remove apt?
[18:57] <ikonia> Mansoor: what do you mean you can't see terminal
[18:57] <ikonia> michael_: stop there for a moment please.
[18:57] <michael_> whoa i just pasted the list of packages
[18:57] <ikonia> KodeXs: please show the output of "uname -a" before going any further
[18:57] <michael_> ithat he posted
[18:57] <jennie> please help , when i try to install mplayer it is giving error to install "mplayerGuI" how do i install mplayer gui >????
[18:57] <KodeXs> oke done
[18:57] <KodeXs> it worked
[18:57] <KodeXs> thanks
[18:57] <netmk> you still have apt?
[18:57] <netmk> ;p
[18:58] <Mansoor> ikonia i am new here I want to share my problem with u
[18:58] <Mansoor> please guide
[18:58] <xangua> jennie: well mplayer has manny gui's i preffer gnome-mplayer
[18:58] <Jon--> have ubuntu installed to a 16gb usb, suddenly stopped working and bios says not a valid boot device
[18:58] <angs> where does ubuntu keep known user id for ssh?
[18:58] <michael_> KodeXs: do sudo apt-get install apt
[18:58] <Jon--> how can I check the disk for consistency, etc?
[18:58] <angs> in which directory?
[18:58] <ikonia> Jon--: sounds like the disk has died
[18:58] <Jon--> ikonia, I have it mounted it appears fine
[18:58] <KodeXs> why?
[18:59] <ikonia> Jon--: ok, so make sure your bios is set to boot the usb, rather than any other device
[18:59] <Jon--> ikonia, I did a reboot without changing the bios settings
[18:59] <angs> where does ubuntu store known user id for ssh? (rsa information)?
[18:59] <Jon--> ikonia, working -> not working
[18:59] <ikonia> angs: user id for rsa ? what
[18:59] <llutz>  angs the ssh-key you mean? ~/.ssh
[18:59] <ikonia> Jon--: check the bios/force it to boot from usa
[18:59] <designbybeck> I tried install to a USB from within a VBox and it hung, and then tried from a live boot and it hung as well at the same spot
[18:59] <Jon--> ikonia, I WANT to boot the USB, the USB has Ubuntu on it. It's stopped working. The USB mounts properly and the files look okay.
[18:59] <angs> rsa
[18:59] <designbybeck> has anyone had problems installing lately?
[18:59] <Mansoor> I wrote a script .sh and move it in /bin/bash ... from then my terminal is not displaying... I don't know how to set my root password also
[19:00] <ikonia> Jon--: so check the bios is set to/force the bios to boot from the USB
[19:00] <Jon--> ikonia, Again, the BIOS says no boot device available. I feel like a broken record here
[19:00] <genii-around> angs: home directory, .ssh/known_hosts
[19:00] <angs> I mean, rsa info of the known users
[19:00] <designbybeck> Hmm Jon-- I wonder if we are having the same problem?
[19:00] <angs> thanks
[19:00] <kelvinella> hi i have a question.  i have 2 users using the same computer, when user A login and mount a drive1, the user B in his account cant see the drive1.  how to solve this problem?
[19:00] <designbybeck> oh maybe not... I am trying to get it to do a full install to a USB
[19:00] <ikonia> Jon--: right so the bios is saying no usb device available, but there is....sugesting the problem is either with your device or the bios
[19:00] <designbybeck> I got it to work last week
[19:00] <Jon--> ikonia, It has no feature to force boot, it's a pretty old bios. The boot order is cd -> usb. there is no sata or ide drive in this box at all. The BIOS says no bootable device, was just working a few mins ago
[19:00] <stones_> could someone help me with this
[19:01] <ikonia> Jon--: as the bios is a level above the OS, so if it can't see a device at that level, it's a hardware issue
[19:01] <kelvinella> if user A unmount drive1 before logout, then user B can see and mount the drive.
[19:01] <Jon--> ikonia, it detects the usb controller fine, can we please move to the disk level now? I've checked everything else
[19:01] <ikonia> no
[19:01] <designbybeck> Jon--:  did you try to put it in another USB Slot?
[19:01] <Jon--> designbybeck, yes
[19:01] <ikonia> Jon--: can the bios see a usb device, yes/no
[19:01] <stones_> ikonia what do you mean by it does?
[19:01] <designbybeck> I've seen some older computers have a default USB
[19:01] <Jon--> ikonia, YES
[19:01] <genii-around> Mansoor: If you moved your script to /bin/bash, likely you overwrote the default shell for the terminal
 jennie: well mplayer has manny gui's i preffer gnome-mplayer>> closed unxptectadly and crashing 1204
[19:01] <ikonia> stones_: when you boot ubuntu it will probe/detect new hardware
[19:01] <ikonia> Jon--: right, so then next step is the grub boot loader,
[19:02] <ikonia> Jon--: did you install the grub bootloader to the usb disk master boot record ?
[19:02] <stones_> is that what its doing on the blank screen with the cursor?
[19:02] <stones_> as soon as i boot into the kernel it just goes to a black screen with a cursor
[19:02] <ikonia> stones_: no idea, without checking
[19:02] <Mansoor> how to solve this issue
[19:02] <stones_> these are 2 completrly different laptops
[19:02] <stones_> well how do i know if its finding the new hardware?
please guide me
[19:02] <Jon--> ikonia, for fucks sake, why would grub change? Nothing on the disk should have changed, it was just working, the system was shut down. I'm thinking there's some fragmentation or consistency issues with it now
[19:02] <stones_> its not saying anything at all
[19:02] <ikonia> stones_: do you see the ubuntu boot logo ?
[19:02] <ikonia> Jon--: drop the language
[19:02] <ikonia> Jon--: fragmentation wouldn't change grub
[19:02] <stones_> nothing
[19:02] <jennie> how to install mplayer GUI
[19:03] <jennie> ?
[19:03] <stones_> i get the kernel menu
[19:03] <ikonia> Jon--: if it's not booting into grub - there is the initial issue
[19:03] <Jon--> ikonia, I don't mean to swear but I've already spend 10 minutes doing everything you're doing me to do. Read my original question.
[19:03] <jennie> please help]
[19:03] <stones_> hit enter on the first kernel and it goes to a black screen with a cursor
[19:03] <ikonia> Jon--: are you getting the grub menu, yes/no
[19:03] <stones_> been like that for 5 minutes now
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> jennie  it's in the software center
[19:03] <jennie>  i tried from there
[19:03] <jennie> but not working
[19:03] <genii-around> Mansoor: You need to boot to cdrom, mount the old hard drive, then copy the file /bin/bash off the live install to the mounted drive, replacing the script you put there
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> jennie  or use sudo apt-get install mplayer
[19:03] <Jon--> ikonia, I told you three times now. I get "No boot device available. F1 to retry F2 for setup utility" [BIOS message]
[19:03] <ikonia> Jon--: you're telling me this, but you are not answering my quesiton
[19:03] <ikonia> Jon--: do you see a grub menu, yes/no
[19:04] <Jon--> Does that sound like a grub menu to you?
[19:04] <ikonia> Jon--: no, it sounds like a bios problem
[19:04] <ikonia> Jon--: as it can't see a disk
[19:04] <ikonia> or a boot sector on a disk....which is grub
[19:04] <ikonia> hence why I'm asking about grub
[19:04] <Jon--> ikonia, Boot machine, works. Boot it again 100 times, works. Do a restart, now it's not working. Conclude : Likely issue with the disk.
[19:04] <ikonia> Jon--: it's not getting to that state
[19:04] <ikonia> it's the bootloader
[19:04] <ikonia> or you'd see the boot loader
[19:05] <ikonia> it's not getting that far
[19:05] <Jon--> can I do a grub install on a different version of ubuntu and have it detect things proper on the usb?
[19:05] <ikonia> you can mount the disk, so you know the disk is fine
 How can I be root user without using terminal
[19:05] <ikonia> so if the disk is fine....the bootloader seems to be the obvious place to start
[19:05] <michael_> Jon--: can you change your hard drive order in the bios
[19:05] <ikonia> but you appear too smart to actually listen to help
[19:05] <Jon--> michael_, there is no hard drive in there at all, and it's configured cd->usb
[19:05] <michael_> not the bbot device priority but the actual hard drive order
[19:05] <genii-around> Mansoor: Even the root user's default shell is /bin/bash . So you can't really
[19:06] <Jon--> ikonia, I asked you a question, please reply
[19:06] <Jon--> "can I do a grub install on a different version of ubuntu and have it detect things proper on the usb?"
[19:06] <ikonia> Jon--: no, you're a smart guy, work it out, I'm done with the smart attitude I'm getting trying to help you
[19:06] <OerHeks> Jon-- tried the usb on an other machine to make sure it is not corrupted ?
[19:06] <Jon--> OerHeks, yeah, won't boot off anything now. Was just working.
[19:06] <Jon--> OerHeks, USB mounts fine
 I am new here and I even don't know much how to boot a CDrom ..even mount..
[19:07] <michael_> Jon--: yeah you probably need to reinstall grub to the boot sector
[19:07] <tbrown2012> Does anyone know a best way to install the classic gnome look version 2.28??
[19:07] <Jon--> michael_, can I do a grub install on a different version of ubuntu and have it detect things proper on the usb?
[19:08] <michael_> Jon--: yes, but you need to know which hard drive to install it to
[19:08] <ikonia> michael_: no you can't
[19:08] <michael_> ikonia: how cant you?
[19:08] <genii-around> Mansoor: When you installed Ubuntu, did you make a cdromand install from that?
[19:08] <Jon--> You can't just grub-install /dev/sdc and have it create grub.cfg based on /de/sdc{1/2} ?
[19:08] <ikonia> michael_: if you do a grub install from a 10.04 cd for example on to a 12.04 system it will fail
[19:08] <Jon--> Shoot.
[19:08] <ikonia> as the difference between grub1 and grub2 won't work they are setup and detect different
[19:09] <Jon--> It's not that old I already said 11.04 above ^
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> tbrown2012  install gnome-session-fallback
[19:09] <Jon--> Are you perma-trolling today ikonia ?
[19:09] <michael_> ikonia: that's nit picking
[19:09] <Jon--> You're either trolling or retarded.
[19:09] <ikonia> michael_: no, thats the difference between a working system and a non-working system
[19:09] <Jon--> I don't know which
[19:09] <michael_> 10.04 is mega old what are the chances he was going to use that
[19:09] <netmk> lol.
[19:09] <ikonia> michael_: it's 10.04 - LTS, supported for 5 years,
[19:09] <ikonia> michael_: you need to check these things before offering help
what I did is I installed ubuntu on win 7. from software wubi ...
[19:10] <ikonia> michael_: you could have broke his system
[19:10] <michael_> ikonia: well not exactly it was already broken...
[19:10] <ikonia> michael_: no it wasn 't
[19:10] <ikonia> it just had a potentially damaged boot sector
[19:11] <netmk> and suggesting the other to remove apt and apt-utils was right too?
[19:11] <ikonia> yeah, michael_ you need to slow down
[19:11] <ikonia> michael_: if you can't help, don't, please.
[19:12] <michael_> whatever you want ikonia
[19:12] <genii-around> Mansoor: In this case, you can access the files in the wubi disk from inside Windows. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_can_I_access_the_Wubi_files_from_Windows.3F
[19:12] <stones_> yeah its still sitting on the black screen
[19:12]  * crack05 is away (Gone)
[19:12] <ikonia> thanks
[19:12] <ikonia> !away > CRACK05
[19:13] <hilo> hello can someone explain to me how I can have a system load near 6.00 but CPU usage is only 60-70%
[19:13] <prattmic1> Is there a way in bash to echo to the command line?  So, at the end of a bash script I could echo "some command" and the terminal would have "some command" typed in, but not run yet.
[19:13] <ikonia> hilo: system load is more than just cpu
[19:14] <istrate> I can't log in into my old acount ..any ideas why that might be ? I recently installed linux kernel 3.4 and since then can't log into my normal user ..Fortunately I could log into the guest user and add a new admin user from there...but I want my old user acount back ..any ideas how to restore  it ..or what might cause it ?
[19:14] <sbattey_> I've installed automysqlbackup package which creates a cron job in /etc/cron.daily/automysqlbackup when will this run?
[19:14] <hilo> ikonia: can you try to elaborate? Every explaination I've found to date doesn't make sense.
[19:14] <ubuntu-studio> hej all
[19:14] <xangua> istrate: tried to use the packages/kernel version provided by official ubuntu repositories¿
[19:14] <graham_king> hilo: Your processes could be blocked on I/O
[19:14] <istrate> xangua, yes ..those ones
[19:15] <ubuntu-studio> can i install polish dictionary for lyx
[19:15] <ikonia> hilo: basically ram/cpu/io, (at a high level) all create/add to system load and average out over the period of time
[19:15] <ikonia> hilo: so you can have a cpu of %1 because it's waiting on io, but the io is busy so system load = 6.00
Thanks will get back you you if face any problem... but please answer my one question
[19:15] <genii-around> Mansoor: Then you can download the file http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/bash  ( pick the right one for what you installed, 32 or 64 bit ). Then extract the /bin/bash file from that with this program: http://www.crystalidea.com/free-deb-extract-deb-extractor-windows-unpack-deb-unpack-debian-package-ubuntu  and put it on the mounted wubi disk
[19:15] <cristian> ?
[19:15] <istrate> xangua, from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[19:15] <ikonia> hilo: (very basic explination)
[19:15] <hilo> ikonia: why does the IO wait of one process slow down the execution of processes that are IO independent
[19:15] <cristian> sall
[19:16] <faryshta> Hiw I am trying to uninstall oracle-java7-installer but I get an error code 2.
[19:16] <ikonia> hilo: it doesn't
[19:16] <ikonia> hilo: it slows down that process
[19:16] <ikonia> hilo: and it was only a high level example
[19:16] <istrate> xangua, I thing xorg is crashing at log in but I dont know why ...
[19:16] <cristian> roman careva?
[19:16] <faryshta> E: oracle-java7-installer: el subproceso instalado el script pre-removal devolvió el código de salida de error 2
[19:16] <xangua> istrate: those are not packages provider from the official ubuntu repository, are just kerneles packaged in deb for easy instalation wich you use on your own risk
[19:16] <cristian> ?
[19:16] <monfis> anywan can halp my
[19:17] <hilo> ikonia: my current situation is that I am copying files from an external onto the internal hard drive. Other than that I am doing nothing but this IRC and firefox yet FF is so sluggish I want to bash my face on the desk
[19:17] <istrate> xangua, they work ..but my old user acount is broken
[19:17] <ikonia> hilo: usb, probably just slow so flooding the bus while waiting on the io, don't worry about it, it's not uncommon on usb
 I made a file name diskspace.sh and script was related to Alert = 90 if space increases...all was fine but mail was not present... What I did is that i put this script in /bin/bash...Is it possible I can delete it from there
[19:18] <rafael> exit
[19:18] <p1ppppp> hey guys in order to get my sound working on grooveshark i uninstalled then reinstalled pulse audio to fix it, but now I've got no icon in the upper right - what package is it that will get this back thanks
[19:18] <sbattey_> I've installed automysqlbackup package which creates a cron job in /etc/cron.daily/automysqlbackup when will this run?
[19:19] <hilo> ikonia: is there any way to control something like that so IO wait / bus flooding doesn't make my system somewhat unusable every time I need to move some files around?
[19:20] <ikonia> you can ionice processes
[19:20] <ikonia> hilo: but the scheduler normally does the best it can for you
[19:21] <faryshta> Hiw I am trying to uninstall oracle-java7-installer but I get this error: E: oracle-java7-installer: el subproceso instalado el script pre-removal devolvió el código de salida de error 2
[19:21] <genii-around> Mansoor: /bin/bash is not a folder, but a file. If you delete that file you will still have the exact same symptoms, because the terminal requires it.
[19:21] <dandand> is there an ubuntu audio irc chan?
[19:21] <Andre_H> make a sign for wine: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/use-wine-as-needed-in-future-humble-indie-bundles/
[19:21] <hilo> ikonia: what about throttling USB or something like that so that it can't hog so many resources for something as trivial as an IO transfer
[19:21] <ikonia> hilo: not that I'm aware of
[19:22] <Xp0rt> hey guys! Could you help me with the following? => I'm trying to make a shell script (.sh) to export some variables through the command "export". But when I try to see the variables values (for example: "echo $VARIABLE") it prints a blank line. My script is avaliable at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1023761/ and I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Thank you very much for the help!
[19:22] <lizzin> i would like to read the man page for the ansi c function 'exit' but 'man exit' shows the info for the shells builtin 'exit' function. how do i do this?
[19:22] <LjL> lizzin: man 3 exit
[19:22] <LinTux> In GNURADIO when i use the output to pulse audio, i get no sound?
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> faryshta  did you consult this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Oracle_Java_7
[19:22] <dandand> is this the proper chan to discuss audio issues?
[19:22] <genii-around> Mansoor: To restore the original file which belongs there, you need to access the install from outside ( either from Windows, or from booting up Ubuntu from a cdrom.
[19:22] <lizzin> LjL: that worked, thanks. where can i read up on the usage of that '3'?
[19:23] <dandand> (mic input not working, hda nvidia)
  Oh !!! I see...
[19:23] <LjL> lizzin: it's the manual section. you can also do "man -a exit" to see all the "exit" pages in all sections
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> dandand  in a terminal, type alsamixer, if you see MM (mute), go there and press m
[19:23] <dandand> right
[19:23] <dandand> so i did that
[19:23] <dandand> that used to fix the issue
[19:23] <guest2> Hey how can I copy an Ubuntu system over to another?
[19:23] <dandand> but since gnome 3
[19:23] <dandand> it stopped
[19:23] <FloodBot1> dandand: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:24] <lizzin> LjL: ok thanks
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> !clone| guest2
[19:25] <dandand> monkeydust, did you get my message, or did it get flood controlled
[19:25] <stones_> ikomia,
[19:25] <dandand> i would post error logs on launchpad, but not sure how to do that
[19:25] <stones_> is there anything i can do to force it to detect the new hardware?
[19:25] <stones_> its still sitting at the black screen
[19:25] <Solow> Can I ask questions about nfs in here as well?
[19:25] <hilo> ikonia: thanks
[19:25] <genii-around> Mansoor: Alternately, you can just re-install from Wubi. But not much is to be learned from just re-installing.
[19:25] <Xp0rt> could you help me with the following? => I'm trying to make a shell script (.sh) to set some system variables through the command "export". But when I try to see the variables values (using the command "echo $VARIABLE") it prints a blank line. My script is avaliable at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1023761/ and I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Thank you very much for your attention!
[19:26] <faryshta> MonkeyDust, thanks for the link. But that is for installing, I need to UNinstall.
[19:26] <Somelauw> Hi, I noticed that when running wmii in ubuntu, some fonts are messed up and some applications crash. When I run them in unity, they work fine.
[19:26] <NielsMkn> hey
[19:26] <Somelauw> I have the same problem with awesome by the way.
 you are  really been gr8 help ... one more thing is that the problem arose due to my interest in making .sh script.. tell me how to make one and execute it
[19:27] <NielsMkn> I want to download and install something and want it to shutdown automatically
[19:27] <guest2> MonkeyDust: I mean more like the entire system. Con figs from etc and stuff in home, all that
[19:27] <gaurav__> How do I find out my Intel integrated graphic's model number?
[19:28] <NielsMkn> This site gives me a hint but I'm still not clear about how to do this http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/27970/
[19:28] <guest2> I've heard of people installing entire systems from nfs boot some thing like that
[19:28] <genii-around> Mansoor: You would normally make it with a text editor you like, and the first line of the file should have: #!/bin/bash    by itself. Then you run the script by issuing: ./myscriptname.sh
[19:28] <beandog> guest2: yah, network boot
[19:28] <p1ppppp> hey guys in order to get my sound working on grooveshark i uninstalled then reinstalled pulse audio to fix it, but now I've got no icon in the upper right - what package is it that will get this back thanks
[19:29] <Kyshtynbai> Hi all. Canonical guys have broken standard /etc/resolv.conf . Where do I specify nameserver and domain options now?
[19:29] <p1ppppp> no sound ico
[19:29] <p1ppppp> n
[19:29] <mouth1> hi
[19:29] <genii-around> Mansoor: The file should also be set to be executable with chmod +x scriptname.sh
[19:29] <guest3> beandog, yeah i have no clue how to do that
[19:29] <mouth1> does anyone have a samsung nc10 plus? is it good with ubuntu? i couldn't find anything on it on the ubuntu.com site
[19:29] <NielsMkn> erm any idea how to do this?
[19:29] <beandog> guest3: google ltsp
[19:30] <gaurav__> Any help on my above question?
[19:30] <beandog> guest3: or just network boot
  i did same but i execute command mv diskcheck.sh  /bin/bash what i did wrong
[19:31] <Xp0rt> could you help me with the following? => I'm trying to make a shell script (.sh) to set some system variables through the command "export". But when I try to see the variables values (using the command "echo $VARIABLE") it prints a blank line. My script is avaliable at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1023761/ and I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Thank you very much for your attention!
[19:31] <genii-around> Mansoor: "mv" means to "move" the file. This means your file "diskcheck.sh" was now moved to be the file /bin/bash, over-writing the system file which was there
[19:31] <Andre_H> make a sign for Wine: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/use-wine-as-needed-in-future-humble-indie-bundles/
[19:32] <guest3> beandog, ltsp isn't going to help me replicate a system to another box
[19:32] <guest3> sitch: broken laptop. want to transfer system to another slightly-less-broken laptop
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> faryshta  look in synaptic for java, delete it and delete some hidden .config file, too, if needed, but be careful with that
[19:32] <guest3> different make and model
[19:32] <guest3> I doubt I can just rsync -a system1 system2 lol
[19:32] <beandog> guest3: no, but they'll have the docs for network booting
[19:32] <genii-around> Mansoor: If you want to specify what shell to use to execute a script, is like: /bin/bash filename-which-runs-using-bash
 no easy way to revert it back
[19:33] <genii-around> Mansoor: No, there is no reverting since it does not exist in another place on the disk from where to copy it from.
[19:33] <mystblade9> Are the crashing issues and YouTube issues with the propietary nVidia drivers on cards like GeForce 9800GT fixed yet?
[19:33] <dddbmt> Hello guys. I am trying to play minecraft on my ubuntu machine, but I get this after I've logged into the game. I guess it's a java issue. https://gist.github.com/02c77d89e3c29897e73d
[19:33] <NielsMkn> help please!!
[19:34] <Kyshtynbai> Guys, could you help me?  Where do I specify nameserver and domain options now? /etc/resolv.conf is being ovewritten constantly
[19:34] <KorvinSzanto> dddbmt, which java are you using?
[19:34] <guest3> !automate
[19:35] <genii-around> Mansoor: And since it is a file which is required for the terminal to work, it is a situation in which you cannot obtain terminal to fix terminal, etc
/bin/bash filename-which-runs-using-bash please explain sorry i didnt get this point
[19:36] <dddbmt> KorvinSzanto, java version "1.6.0_23"
[19:36] <acer_> hi, how do i see my local ip on ubuntu?
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> acer_  ifconfig
[19:36] <acer_> nvm frgot to google 1st
[19:36] <dddbmt> acer_, ifconfig
[19:36] <KorvinSzanto> dddbmt, they suggest openjdk
[19:36] <acer_> thx ur a love
[19:36] <mouth1> does anyone have a samsung nc10 plus? is it good with ubuntu? i couldn't find anything on it on the ubuntu.com site
[19:36] <genii-around> Mansoor: If you wote a script which uses "bash" to execute it. Then you go: /bin/bash myscriptname-which-runs-with-bash  . if your script used perl, you would do instead /usr/bin/perl myscriptname-which-uses-perl
[19:37] <KorvinSzanto> works good with openjdk-6-jre
[19:37] <genii-around> Mansoor: And so on, according to what language you wrote the script in
 gksu  in this case can help to reinstall terminal ?
[19:38] <Xp0rt> could you help me with the following? => I'm trying to make a shell script (.sh) to set some system variables through the command "export". But when I try to see the variables values (using the command "echo $VARIABLE") it prints a blank line. My script is avaliable at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1023761/ and I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Thank you very much for your attention!
[19:38] <dddbmt> KorvinSzanto, oh I didn't know that. Is that just a "apt-get install open-jdk" ?
[19:38] <cpet> Xp0rt: msg me the script
[19:39] <KorvinSzanto> apt-get install open-jdk-6-jre
[19:39] <Xp0rt> cpet: sorry, but what does the command "msg" do?
[19:39] <KorvinSzanto> woops
[19:39] <cpet> Xp0rt: sends me a message
[19:39] <KorvinSzanto> apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[19:39] <cpet> KorvinSzanto: irc is not a terminal
[19:39] <dddbmt> cpet, it's for me
[19:40] <cpet> dddbmt: what is?
[19:40] <Xp0rt> cpet: ??? i copied the script (it is avaliable in the link that were in the message). Could you help?
[19:40] <KorvinSzanto> cpet, how do you know I'm not using a cli irc client?
[19:40] <cpet> Xp0rt: yes if you send me the script i dont use x and lynx fugly
[19:41] <dddbmt> KorvinSzanto, "openjdk-6-jre is already the newest version."
[19:41] <Somelauw> Hi, I noticed that when running wmii in ubuntu, some fonts are messed up and some applications crash. When I run them in unity, they work fine. I have the same problem with awesome by the way.
[19:41] <cpet> KorvinSzanto: i dont but I figured since you are typing apt-get .. you are confusing irc for a terminal
[19:41] <sysdoc> !ubuntuone
[19:41] <Xp0rt> cpet: ok, do you want PVT?
[19:41] <void77> hi
[19:41] <cpet> hi void77
[19:41] <genii-around> Mansoor: The file "bash" which is located in the directory "/bin/" is not part of the terminal directly, but rather the default thing the terminal itself uses as a way to control it.
[19:41] <KorvinSzanto> not sure then dddbmt
[19:41] <cpet> Xp0rt: /msg cpet hi
[19:41] <KorvinSzanto> is that the first time you've run minecraft?
[19:41] <mipsie3> what if irc was your only terminal.. you would go to certain channels to send cmds
[19:41] <FunkyELF> I'm getting this error... any ideas?  http://pastebin.ca/2158180
[19:41] <genii-around> Mansoor: The file "bash" itself is in it's own package, which is called by the same name
[19:42] <Andy80> hi
[19:42] <faryshta> MonkeyDust, that is what I am doing and where I receive the error. Synaptic is trowing this error every time I try to uninstall oracle-java7-installer
[19:42] <jonathon> Is there a program that can cycle wallpapers like every hour?
[19:42] <guntbert> !here | FunkyELF
[19:42] <void77> I'm having sound card issues, my external usb audio card (M-audio Fasttrack Pro), I can only use as input device, not as output device
[19:42] <Andy80> if the PC keeps writing/reading on the disk, how can I identify the application/service who is causing this?
[19:42] <KorvinSzanto> FunkyELF, run apt-get install -f
[19:42] <llutz> Andy80: iostat
[19:43] <genii-around> Mansoor: I will be available here for the next few hours if you require help with the method I outlined earlier
[19:43] <FunkyELF> KorvinSzanto, can you explain what the error message means?
[19:43] <zykotick9> llutz: what's iostat?
[19:43] <KorvinSzanto> that there are unmet dependencies that need to be updated
[19:44] <genii-around> Mansoor:EG: You can access the files in the wubi disk from inside Windows. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_can_I_access_the_Wubi_files_from_Windows.3F ..Then you can download the file http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/bash ( pick the right one for what you installed, 32 or 64 bit ). Then extract the /bin/bash file from that with this program: http://www.crystalidea.com/free-deb-extract-deb-extractor-windows-unpack-deb-unpack-debian-package
[19:44] <genii-around> -ubuntu and put it on the mounted wubi disk
  let me share with u what I have to do ... wait let me go through your previous post
[19:44] <cpet> zykotick9: shows input/output data
[19:44] <Andy80> llutz: thanks! I install "sysstat" right now. Few minutes ago my netbook become unresponsive :( I only was able to CTRL+ALT+F1 and sudo reboot, but it took 10 minutes to do it! :(
[19:44] <zykotick9> cpet: know what package it's in?  i typically use iotop for I/O info...
[19:44] <miss_ubuntu> DCC LIST
[19:44] <cpet> Andy80: use memtest to check your ram
[19:44] <Andre_H> make a sign for Wine: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/use-wine-as-needed-in-future-humble-indie-bundles/
[19:44] <chipotle> can i install php5.2.x on ubuntu via aptitude?
[19:44] <llutz> Andre_H: iotop might also help
[19:44] <cpet> zykotick9: run it in a term should tell you which package it's in
[19:45] <llutz> zykotick9: iostat - Report Central Processing Unit (CPU) statistics and input/output statistics for devices, partitions and network filesystems
[19:45] <LjL> Andre_H: i pretended not to see it the first time, but please keep in mind that this channel doesn't appreciate spam, even if it's Linux-related and everything
[19:45] <zykotick9> cpet: it doesn't but thanks anyway
[19:45] <zykotick9> llutz: i believe this is the 1st time i've seen mention of a non-ubuntu-specific package that's in ubuntu and not in debian...
[19:46] <Andy80> cpet: why memtest?
[19:46] <cpet> Andy80: computers that randomly freeze is normall ram issues
[19:46] <llutz> zykotick9: what, iostat not in debian? check your sources, this sid has it "sysstat: /usr/bin/iostat"
[19:46] <faryshta> How can I UNINSTALL oracle-java7-installer? When I try I get this error E: oracle-java7-installer: el subproceso instalado el script pre-removal devolvió el código de salida de error 2
[19:46] <nicumafia95> ciao
[19:47] <nicumafia95> !list
[19:47] <Andy80> cpet: it didn't freeze. Writing/reading on the disk makes the system unresponsive. It took 10 minutes just to open a terminal and give a couple of commands.
[19:47] <Andre_H> LjL: true, didn't meant to do this forever, then i wondered when someone notices, so i'll stop now :)
[19:47] <zykotick9> llutz: ;)  i'm a stable guy
[19:47] <dysoco> Anyone knows a PPA for Grive (Google Drive linux client ?)
[19:47] <cpet> Andy80: and you find that to be normal ? heh
[19:47] <llutz> zykotick9: too boring at home :)
[19:48] <Somelauw> Hi, I noticed that when running wmii in ubuntu, some fonts are messed up and some applications crash. When I run them in unity, they work fine. I have the same problem with awesome by the way.
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> dysoco  http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/webupd8/oneiric/main/base/grive
[19:49] <dysoco> thanks!
[19:49] <tejaswidp> All documentation packages are installed as html packages in my machine. Is there a way to install the pdf docs instead?
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> dysoco  mind: it says oneiric
[19:50] <deffrag> !info ubuntu-minimal
[19:50] <dysoco> meh...
[19:50] <zykotick9> llutz: sysstat was the package - thanks.
 ok I m gng to do this process ...but will come back as you have to tell me how to make my first script run ...
[19:51] <genii-around> Mansoor: I'll be around
  I hope you will be around as long I become expert
[19:52] <zykotick9> llutz: i'd think iotop (which shows i/o per process) might be more informative to the OP
[19:52] <zykotick9> Andy80: ^
[19:53] <llutz> zykotick9: you might be right
[19:56] <istrate> is there a way to default a xsesion for an user acount ?
[19:56] <brasidas> eth0 and eth1 both have valid connections to the outside world. If I turn off eth0 via 'ifdown eth0', eth1 does not automatically take over as the primary interface.
[19:56] <brasidas> Is there a command I can run or a setting in /etc/network/interfaces I can add to make eth1 automatically take over?
[19:56] <Amine> Hi, how can install Bitcomet for Ubuntu ?
[19:57] <faryshta> How can I UNINSTALL oracle-java7-installer? When I try I get this error E: oracle-java7-installer: el subproceso instalado el script pre-removal devolvió el código de salida de error 2
[19:57] <cpet> brasidas: that is difficult as the issue is the routing table
[19:58] <llutz> brasidas: add "down route add default eth1"  to the eth0-part of your /etc/network/interfaces
[19:58] <cpet> brasidas: you need to use a device that allow you to do that
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> faryshta, can you translate that?
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> faryshta  try using a live cd or usb, work from there
[19:58] <llutz> brasidas: you might have to remove default-route before, try it
[19:58] <genii-around> brasidas: Conceivably you could do something like a post-down directive for each which then re-brings the other up
[19:59] <brasidas> thanks guys, makes sense. The idea of using if/down directives crossed my mind
[19:59] <brasidas> so the meta question I have then is how does linux decide which is the default network? first defined in /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:00] <reisio> brasidas: don't confuse Linux with Ubuntu
[20:00] <reisio> or vice versa :D
[20:00] <genii-around> brasidas: It wants eth0 normally. That is decided by where in the pci bus it comes across the adapter
[20:00] <daviddoria> With nothing open, I have 1.4/3.9GB of ram used. Is this normal? Or is there some way to reduce what is being used?
[20:00] <cpet> daviddoria: disable services
[20:00] <cpet> daviddoria: disable x/desktop
[20:00] <brasidas> daviddoria: which command are you using to determine "memory used"?
[20:00] <cpet> daviddoria: and it should go down
[20:01] <cpet> also dont judge by what top says
[20:01] <genii-around> brasidas: It keeps a record of what it found where in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[20:01] <brasidas> genii-around: ah, thanks!
[20:01] <daviddoria> I am looking at the memory monitor in my panel
[20:02] <Andy80> zykotick9: thanks :)
[20:02] <Andy80> cpet: it's not normal, but if the RAM is failing it crash completly, it doesn't get slow
[20:03] <brasidas> follow up question, I have eth0, eth1, and a network bridge (br1) attached to eth1. Both eth0 and br1 have valid IP addresses.
[20:03] <WarOfTheNerd__> Andy80, not quite true
[20:03] <brasidas> if I ifdown eth0, the br1 takes over immediately as the default connection
[20:03] <brasidas> and when eth0 comes back up, it won't yield the default back to eth0
[20:03] <WarOfTheNerd__> Andy80, ECC RAM will slow down the system due to the EC/ECC process
[20:04] <Andy80> ok, I'll leave the PC in memtest tomorrow when I go to work :P
[20:04] <brasidas> any thoughts on how to prevent br1 from taking over the default?
[20:04] <daviddoria> what is the "keyboard daemon" service?
[20:05] <Mansoor> ] <genii-around> check is the link correct http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/bash 
[20:05] <daze> Can I do so that if the program is visible on the screen, it would minimize when clicked on its icon in Ubuntu Unity launcher? As in Windows. You click a icon in the launcher, the program comes into view and then when you click on it again, it minimizes. Currently, clicking the icon when the program is visible does nothing..
[20:06] <faryshta> MonkeyDust, why do I need a live cd or usb?
[20:07] <genii-around> Mansoor: Yes. from that page you need to pick either the 32 bit one http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/i386/bash/download , or the 64 bit one http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/bash/download  , according to what you originally had
[20:07] <faryshta> wilee-nilee,  E: oracle-java7-installer: the subprocess script pre-removal returned error code 2
[20:08] <Somelauw> Hi, I noticed that when running wmii in ubuntu, some fonts are messed up and some applications crash. When I run them in unity, they work fine. I have the same problem with awesome by the way.
[20:10] <onet> If i run x-www-browser on console then start browser, but not first, only last from alternalives list
[20:10] <onet> 0 - ff auto, 1 - ff manual, 2 rekonq manual
[20:10] <onet> how to start ff?
[20:11] <daze> Scratch my previous question. Googling helped (blush).
 ok what i understand is to login to windows and run wubi from there as before I did... will it be new installation or repair? I have no Idea how I will select bash from provided list... Last time i did for 32bit...
 More i don't wana lose softwares , application i installed on this ubuntu... How can I save them. Will installation promt me for repair ?
[20:13] <genii-around> Mansoor: You do not need yet to run wubi. Did you install the filesystem driver in Windows to allow you to see the wubi disk?
[20:14] <sergeantcupcake> Is there a way to make my old system run on less hardware resources. Im running v12.04 on a very old machine but i would like to keep my existing setup.
[20:14] <sirriffsalot> Hey! I'm trying to install a program that says requires Qt4 to make... but I have no idea what packages that involves.. any ideas?
[20:14] <Jordan_U> sirriffsalot: What software are you actually trying to install?
[20:14] <sirriffsalot> Jordan_U: PLUG
[20:15] <sirriffsalot> Jordan_U: http://piorekf.org/
[20:16] <sergeantcupcake> In case you all were wondering, yes im a ninja. Just wanted to let you know.
[20:17] <genii-around> MonkeyDust: eg: One of the ones recommended on the first link I gave, from http://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs or http://www.fs-driver.org/ or http://ext2read.sf.net/  ( the last one is recommended )
[20:17] <cypher-neo> sergeantcupcake, I've got my eye on you now. :P
[20:17] <genii-around> Mansoor: : eg: One of the ones recommended on the first link I gave, from http://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs or http://www.fs-driver.org/ or http://ext2read.sf.net/ ( the last one is recommended )
[20:17] <cypher-neo> sergeantcupcake, Ninja your way out of this one!
[20:17] <genii-around> MonkeyDust: Apologies, misdirect
[20:17] <sergeantcupcake> cypher-neo: lol :)
[20:17] <guntbert> !ot | sergeantcupcake
[20:18] <cypher-neo> sergeantcupcake, And as for your question... there are very few ways to do that anymore. You could try installing a different DE and see if that helps the system.
[20:18] <sergeantcupcake> ubottu: I was making a simple, and very important statement, but i dont make anymore
[20:18] <Jordan_U> sirriffsalot: What does this software actually do? Is there a page about it in English?
[20:18] <sergeantcupcake> ubottu: :)
[20:18] <sirriffsalot> Jordan_U: http://piorekf.org/plug/about/
[20:18] <cypher-neo> sergeantcupcake, I can reccommend trying GNOME-Shell, or GNOME Fallback mode. Alternatively you could also try an xubuntu install.
[20:18] <sergeantcupcake> cypher-neo: whats a DE
[20:18] <sirriffsalot> Jordan_U: it controls an amp that I use:P
[20:19] <cypher-neo> sergeantcupcake, Desktop environment
[20:19] <sergeantcupcake> cypher-neo: I would like to keep my existing GNOME environment. Is there a way to run it on low system resources?
[20:20] <cypher-neo> sergeantcupcake, What environment are you currently using?
[20:20] <daviddoria> cpet, what were you suggesting to use if not 'top' to check the memory usage?
[20:20] <cypher-neo> sergeantcupcake, Unity is default for Ubuntu these days? Is that what you're using?
[20:20] <sergeantcupcake> cypher-neo: the default ubuntu environment. i believe that would be unity, but i seem to remember that they phased that out last release
[20:20] <faryshta> How can I UNINSTALL oracle-java7-installer? When I try I get this error E: oracle-java7-installer: the subprocess el script pre-removal returned error code 2
[20:20] <sergeantcupcake> someone please correct me if im wrong
[20:21] <cypher-neo> sergeantcupcake, Phased out!? No! Not even close. Now it's default.
[20:21] <sergeantcupcake> cypher-neo: oh. well, you learn something new everyday
[20:21] <cypher-neo> sergeantcupcake, And Unity runs off Compiz... You could try switching to Unity 2D which uses less graphical resources (in theory).
[20:22] <sergeantcupcake> cypher-neo: thanks bro! speaking of unity 2d, i think id better go to bed. my schoolbus leaves early. g'nigh all and thanks for your help!
[20:22] <onet> how to set x-www-browser to firefox?
[20:23] <cypher-neo> onet, sudo update-alternative --config x-www-browser
[20:23] <genii-around> Mansoor: I'm away from my computer for 5-7 minutes but returning.
[20:23] <cypher-neo> onet, Then select the browser
[20:23] <cypher-neo> onet, sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[20:23] <cypher-neo> onet, Sorry, I missed an "s" in alternatives
[20:23] <onet> cypher-neo: i have there on 0 firefox
[20:23] <Mike9863> I'm trying to install swftools on a server, however when I run ./configure I get this error: http://pastebin.com/7vdLFGLX Can anyone help?
[20:24] <cypher-neo> onet, How many browsers do you have on your system and do they all show on that list?
[20:24] <reisio> Mike9863: I'm sure you can find a deb of swftools
[20:24] <ironhalik> Ok - this starts to really annoy me - anyone noticed eclipse in ubuntu occasionally, randomly hijacking its cursor? You want to delete a line, press control+D and it turns out the cursor jumped 300 linus of code up
[20:24] <onet> cypher-neo: 0 - firefox auto | 1 - firefox manual | 2 - reconq manual
[20:24] <reisio> Mike9863: it does have some security issues, though, FYI
[20:24] <ironhalik> or you want to paste something, it gets pasted somewhere completely else
[20:24] <cypher-neo> onet, Which browser are you wanting to use?
[20:24] <onet> and if i type x-www-browser its start reconq
[20:25] <onet> i want to firefox on x-www-browser
[20:25] <onet> 0 - means default?
[20:25] <cypher-neo> onet, No, those are the numbers in the list for you to select which browser you want default to be.
[20:26] <onet> oh
[20:27] <onet> cypher-neo: thx, its working now :) i thinking that 0 is default, 1 if default fault etc ;f
[20:27] <guntbert> onet: the current choice has a *
[20:27] <onet> yep, thanks
[20:28] <stones_> ok this is pissing me off ;/
[20:28] <cypher-neo> stones_, What's wrong?
[20:29] <stones_> even trying to boot using recovery its saying  I see where its hanging at. It stops at bridge window [mem 02x000....]
[20:29] <stones_> I did an install on one laptop and than moved the drive to the other thinking it would boot fine
[20:29] <stones_> but each time i try to boot it just shows a black screen and cursor after i select the kernel cypher-neo
[20:29] <stones_> i did a recover and see where its stalling at but not sure what to do
[20:30] <faryshta> How can I UNINSTALL oracle-java7-installer? When I try I get this error E: oracle-java7-installer: the subprocess el script pre-removal returned error code 2
[20:30] <bolosaur> Hi. I'm about to deploy an OS on a 512mb ram VPS slice. Is there any reason why I should go for 32-bit over 64-bit?
[20:30] <bolosaur> Speaking about Ubuntu btw.
[20:30] <genii-around> stones_: A few possibilities: You had a 64 bit install but the new box is 32 bit.... the old system had a proprietary video driver installed for a card which the new system does not have
[20:30] <cypher-neo> stones_, I'm not sure what to do either. Let me see if I can find some info for you online.
[20:31] <genii-around> stones_: Does it boot into recovery mode?
[20:31] <sysdoc> !ubuntuone
[20:31] <sirriffsalot> Jordan_U: sorry, disconnected.. any idea what Qt4 downloads I should get my hands on?
[20:32] <genii-around> stones_: If it doesn't boot into recovery, likely the 64bit versus 32bit issue
[20:33] <cypher-neo> Thanks genii-around! I hadn't thought of the 64/32 bit issue. :)
[20:34] <parabyte> system program problem detected Do you want to report the problem now? Cancel Report Problem
[20:34] <sirriffsalot> Jordan_U: sorry, system crashed lol:)
[20:34] <parabyte> okay where is the error log file locally so i can figure out whats crashing out
[20:35] <parabyte> lol telling me xorg has issues
[20:35] <parabyte> its working fine!
[20:35] <upset> Installed maximus, but its settings aren't available in .gconf
[20:36] <upset> How do I fix this?
[20:36] <stones_> no, its a 32bit edition
[20:36] <stones_> is there any way to verify if it doesnt boot up?
[20:36] <stones_> the install went fine on a 32bit laptop
[20:36] <stones_> and boots up fine on that laptop but when i move it to the touchpad thats where the problems start
[20:37] <cpet> stones_: connect a mouse to it and figure out if it's being detected
[20:38] <stones_> thats the problem i dont see anything
[20:38] <stones_> i just burnt the cd so let me check which version i downloaded
[20:38] <onet> i have one more question, if i download any files via firefox and then on FF download menager I click right for file and chose Open save dir - get error "/home/anon/Pobrane/ is a directory". Whas wrong?
[20:38] <beefman> anyone have  problem where typing is "delayed" and skips keystrokes if you type too quickly?
[20:38] <stones_> yep 32bit ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[20:39] <beefman> been happening since (i think) 11.04
[20:39] <Jordan_U> sirriffsalot: It looks like mustang-plug has been packaged for Debian, and Ubuntu quantal.
[20:39] <parabyte> ubuntu sucks on this ppc machine
[20:39] <sirriffsalot> Jordan_U: Ok.. Where does that leave me?:D
[20:39] <parabyte> will go back to using debian
[20:39] <belyle> Guys, I've made a post on the forum but I am not getting any joy on an answer, could you please maybe look @ the issue on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11998148#post11998148
[20:40] <Jordan_U> sirriffsalot: So you can try backporting the package, or grab the build and runtime dependency information from http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/mustang-plug and http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/quantal/mustang-plug
[20:40] <sirriffsalot> Jordan_U: easy mate, I'm pretty new to linux.. backporting?
[20:40] <stones_> when i pout the drive into another laptop
[20:40] <stones_> where i did the install it boots up fine
[20:40] <Jordan_U> !prevu | sirriffsalot
[20:40] <Alan502> where is the joydev.c file in ubuntu?
[20:40] <Jordan_U> sirriffsalot: Sorry, I would explain more but I need to leave.
[20:41] <sirriffsalot> Jordan_U: alright, will look at it in a moment. thanks for your time!!
[20:41] <stones_> what does bridge window mean? thats where i see it hanging
[20:41] <beefman> it doesn't do it for me in a terminal (ie, alt + f1..) but does in X
[20:42] <Alan502> does it exist in ubuntu?
[20:42] <arooni> hi folks;  i have added some ppa's to my ubuntu 12.04 installation.  however sometimes they 404.  update manager gives me a red warning icon saying, "the update info is outdated please update manually and click check for updates" ... when i do that; because the ppa's 404; update manager still says last updated 9 days ago and icon is still there.  do i get rid of the ppas?
[20:43] <graham_king> Alan502: package.ubuntu.com search says it doesn't
[20:43] <graham_king> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=joydev.c&mode=exactfilename&suite=precise&arch=any
[20:44] <Alan502> Ahh ok thanks
[20:44] <genii-around> stones_: Probably then the old box has some driver like nvidia or fglrx installed
[20:45] <stones_> is there a way to by pass that?
[20:45] <stones_> so it doesnt scan for that or something?
[20:45] <stones_> its a motion computing m1400 touchscreen laptop
[20:45] <Alan502> I connected a playstation dancepad through a usb adapter to my computer, it shows up in lsusb as ID 0810:0001 Personal Communication Systems, Inc. Dual PSX Adaptor but when I use jtest it doesn't seem to receive any events? help please!
[20:45] <reisio> there's a switchup
[20:46] <genii-around> stones_: Is it possible to put it back in the old box temporarily?
[20:46] <reisio> stones wanting to pass something instead of something wanting to pass stones
[20:46] <Amapele> "dpkg -S /etc/default/grub" showed no owning package.  Is this a bug or is some processing unknown to me happening during package installation?
[20:47] <genii-around> stones_: So then from there you can get in and deinstall whichever the problemmatic driver is
[20:52] <Alan502> I connected a playstation dancepad through a usb adapter to my computer, it shows up in lsusb as ID 0810:0001 Personal Communication Systems, Inc. Dual PSX Adaptor but when I use jtest it doesn't seem to receive any events? help please!
[20:52] <stones_> yes i can put the drive back in the other laptop
[20:53] <stones_> but how would i deinstall it if its not even booting?
[20:53] <stones_> is there a command i can specify on boot or something?
[20:53] <genii-around> stones_: I had assumed it was booting in the original machine.. it was not?
[20:53] <linsys> Trying to upgrade 10.04 desktop to 12.04 apparently gnome-control-center can't be upgraded so the entire thing is hosed. I get a dependancy error when apt-get is trying to upgrade gnome-control-center
[20:53] <stones_> not too sure but i think this is the driver Intel 82855-GME Graphics Graphics Driver 6.14.10.3762
[20:53] <stones_> ah yeah it is booting on the original machine
[20:54] <stones_> but how do i know for sure which driver is causing the issue?
[20:54] <stones_> i have it in the original machine right now booted up
[20:54] <stones_> and logged in
[20:54] <genii-around> stones_: Not usually intel. Almost always nvidia but on accasion the amd ( fglrx) driver
[20:54] <genii-around> *occasion
[20:55] <stones_> ok
[20:55] <antonio_> aloha folks
[20:55] <genii-around> stones_: Does output from:  lsmod     have in it anywhere nvidia or fglrx  ?
[20:55] <stones_> im logged in to the original laptop
[20:56] <stones_> well remember im on the original laptop
[20:56] <stones_> i cant boot on the other laptop
[20:56] <antonio_> For some reason cd's are not being burned correctly in my laptop.  It says they are burned...but when I put them in my cd player in the car it doesn't work...also if I put them back in the laptop they are treated as if they are a blank cd.
[20:56] <Alan502> I connected a playstation dancepad through a usb adapter to my computer, it shows up in lsusb as ID 0810:0001 Personal Communication Systems, Inc. Dual PSX Adaptor but when I use jtest it doesn't seem to receive any events? help please!
[20:56] <linsys> Here is the error  I get when upgrading 10.04 to 12.04  SysRescue CD
[20:57] <linsys> http://pastie.org/4027690 (sorry about the SysRescue CD)
[20:59] <cpet> Alan502: just becuase lspci detects it doesn't mean the program will as well
[20:59] <taquter> test
[20:59] <genii-around> stones_: Yes. So the idea is to find out if the machine which boots has a proprietary video card driver installed which the second machine does not
[21:00] <nailora> i need to start chromium via chromium-browser --blacklist-accelerated-compositing   how can i change the unity launcher icon command to do this?
[21:00] <reisio> nailora: if it's just calling 'chromium', you could try adding a shell script at /usr/local/bin/chromium
[21:01] <genii-around> stones_: So if lsmod result shows for example "nividia" driver in use, to sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current
[21:02] <hungray1> Hey guys
[21:02] <nobby4587> hi everyone :)
[21:02] <hungray1> I just installed ubuntu and ran a tracert...what are these servers in between?
[21:02] <hungray1> It is showing an array of ip's?
[21:03] <hungray1> What are these servers for?
[21:04] <nailora> reisio: will it look in /usr/local/bin/ before other locations? it does not look in $HOME/bin even if that is added to my PATH
[21:06] <teekoh> anyone can help me PXE booting ubuntu 11.10 iso file? (using FOG)
[21:06] <nagarjuna> hi can you guide me how to hide the dash home in ubuntu
[21:07] <squeaky_pl_> hungray1, these are the routers you were getting through when reaching the destination http://stackoverflow.com/questions/211270/how-does-traceroute-work
[21:07] <nagarjuna>  hi can anyone guide me how to hide/remove the dash home in ubuntu
[21:08] <reisio> nailora: /usr/local/bin/ is usually before /usr/bin/ in the path order
[21:08] <reisio> nailora: give it a try
[21:08] <beandog> echo $PATH
[21:09] <hungray1> squeaky_pl_: is it possible to take down a regions internet connection by attacking these routers?
[21:10] <squeaky_pl_> hungray1, theoretically yes but as you get further the possibility of choosing different routes by other clients raises
[21:11] <hungray1> ah
[21:12] <akibahara> hi guys .i have two  subjects .1stone : this issue its about  unetbootin, i want to burn 2 distros ,beini  nd dsl60mb modified but actually does  not apear the cited distros into the gui of unetbootin .And the 2nd one: i want to burn it on a sd but not into a usb that is indeed the option that unet gui permits.
[21:12] <nobby4587> can someone help me?
[21:12] <hungray1> squeaky_pl_: what do you mean the possibility of choosing different routes raises?
[21:13] <nagarjuna> hi can anyone guide me how to hide/remove the dash home in ubuntu 12.04\
[21:14] <squeaky_pl_> hungray1, internet is self healing. each router traces if the packet going through it actually reached the destination if it see failures it will reroute to another router and upgrade routing tables. This is oversimplified description of course.
[21:14] <hungray1> squeaky_pl_: thanks
[21:15] <akibahara> hi guys .i have two  subjects .1stone : this issue its about  unetbootin, i want to burn 2 distros ,beini  nd dsl60mb modified but actually does  not apear the cited distros into the gui of unetbootin .And the 2nd one: i want to burn it on a sd but not into a usb that is indeed the option that unet gui permits.
[21:18] <antonio_> For some reason cd's are not being burned correctly in my laptop.  It says they are burned...but when I put them in my cd player in the car it doesn't work...also if I put them back in the laptop they are treated as if they are a blank cd.
[21:20] <nagarjuna> can anyone help me how to hide/remove the dash home in ubuntu 12.04
[21:20] <nagarjuna> plz
[21:20] <BlueWolf> Hi I have ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop and I was watching a movie and it just froze, the VLC player went a black and white colour and Some thing is using a lot of ram how do I stop it?
[21:20] <Kracov> hello all i'm new to ubuntu.  i can't connect to wireless it says "firmware not detected".  i found a guide online but the terminal doesn't seem to work properly
[21:24] <lukas2511> hey, i have a little problem, i installed ubuntu with efi boot on my pc a while ago, now every time i open the boot menu there is an entry "ubuntu", it's even there when i do a "cmos reset" and remove all disks from the system, board is ASRock Z68 Pro3, other components in the system are only a network card and a nvidia graphics card, no more storage devices
[21:24] <lukas2511> (the efi boot menu, not grub)
[21:25] <phraktal77> has anyone managed to get flumotion to work on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[21:25] <phraktal77> I keep getting a bug in logs.
[21:25] <phraktal77> the package shipped with ubuntu appears to be broken
[21:26] <BlueWolf> Hi I have ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop and I was watching a movie and it just froze, the VLC player went a black and white colour and Some thing is using a lot of ram how do I stop it?
[21:26] <BlueWolf> All I can move is the mouse
[21:28] <isnnnn> can you open your menu or terminal BlueWolf ?
[21:29] <LaughingMan> sada
[21:29] <felipe_Brz> when I run cat /proc/meminfo i see that i have only 40% of memory available but when i run top i see no processes taking that much memory... how can that be?
[21:29] <BlueWolf> isnnnn: No I cant do anything. The mouse moves slightly. I cannot access anything at all??
[21:29] <isnnnn> alt-f2 maybe?
[21:30] <atomicfusion> felipe_Brz: not to suggest that it is the kernel, as i have no diea, but maybe it's the kernel?
[21:30] <isnnnn> felipe_Brz: linux caches memory
[21:30] <BlueWolf> isnnnn: Did that, the window pops up but I can't type or anything?
[21:30] <LaughingMan> s
[21:30] <Viking667> atomicfusion: hey hey hey... maybe it's actually the kernel? "<shrug>"
[21:30] <LaughingMan> sssss
[21:30] <LaughingMan> sssss
[21:30] <isnnnn> BlueWolf: try a reboot if nothing else works
[21:30] <Viking667> BlueWolf: did you clip in it?
[21:30] <isnnnn> we heard you LaughingMan
[21:30] <Viking667>  sorry, click?
[21:31] <BlueWolf> 	
[21:31] <BlueWolf> Viking667: clip in it?
[21:31] <Viking667> i.e. place the pointer into the window, click once, then start typing?
[21:31] <BlueWolf> isnnnn: I want to know why ubuntu does that sometimes because I is starting to bug me now.
[21:31] <BlueWolf> ?
[21:32] <BlueWolf> Viking667: It's taking about a minute to do things so no?
[21:32] <isnnnn> can be a lot of things
[21:32] <Viking667> hm. very high system load.
[21:32] <BlueWolf> isnnnn: Well what could be the most likely and how do I stop it?
[21:33] <Viking667> what's your machine specs?
[21:33] <Viking667> sorry to ask if it's been stated already, but I did come in halfway through
[21:33] <isnnnn> have you tried the latest vlc?
[21:34] <BlueWolf> 	
[21:34] <BlueWolf> Viking667: And stoping it. Intel Celeron.  It seem so have speeded up a lot but still jurcky?
[21:36] <BlueWolf> isnnnn: No because I am not always running VLC, it usually happens with Gimp, Firefow, Rhythmbox, banshee and empathy????
[21:37] <BlueWolf> And afew others
[21:37] <isnnnn> maybe a hardware issue?
[21:37] <isnnnn> cant it be a heat problem?
[21:40] <BlueWolf> 	
[21:40] <BlueWolf> isnnnn: Heat problem not, It's 8 degrees where I am, I am freezing so I'm sure the computer is too :D. And you mean to tell me that both my computers have faulty hardwere?
[21:40] <isnnnn> just guessing ;)
[21:40] <isnnnn> do you have enough memory free?
[21:40] <BlueWolf> More that enought on them both
[21:41] <BlueWolf> 1.4 gigs free on the laptop
[21:41] <Viking667> what's the system load like on both?
[21:41] <BlueWolf> and about 1.5 on this computer
[21:41] <Bodsda> Hi - I have 8GB RAM installed in this machine, but ubuntu is only seeing 3.5GB - heres the uname output if you need it - Linux Bizzare-Ubuntu 3.2.0-14-generic #23-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 3 23:12:54 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[21:41] <Bodsda> any ideas?
[21:42] <isnnnn> you need x64
[21:42] <Viking667> Bodsda: it's probably because you're running a 32-bit kernel without PAE
[21:42] <genii-around> Or PAE
[21:42] <Bodsda> !PAE
[21:42] <srand> I have installed ubuntu in virtualbox in my OS X to give it a try. Everything seems to be working fine, however my download speed is very slow (~100kBs). Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[21:42] <Bodsda> Viking667: cheers
[21:42] <Viking667> srand: find a better mirror?
[21:42] <srand> Vikings667 downloadspeed in general
[21:43] <Bodsda> Viking667: did that not get enabled by default at some point? Or am I thinking of the server release
[21:43] <srand> When I try to fetch packages with apt-get etc
[21:43] <Viking667> srand: hm. Not much you can do about that, I guess.
[21:43] <Viking667> Bodsda: no idea, sorry.
[21:43] <srand> I thought perhaps it had something to do with the fact that I am running it virtual
[21:43] <Viking667> Bodsda: at least you're not running debian on an older laptop.
[21:43] <Bodsda> Viking667: no, my older laptop is running Arch :)
[21:43] <Viking667> with THAT, I'm stuck with the 486 kernel until I compile one up of my own.
[21:43] <zykotick9> isnnnn: (i know what you mean/meant) but there is no such thing as x64, what you mean is x86_64 (you can verify with "uname -m" if your on amd64)
[21:44] <BlueWolf> Viking667: Not sure. Listen thatnks for the help, I really have to go. I will try and get help on this situation some other time. :D :D
[21:44] <Bodsda> zykotick9: are you gonna take MS to court and tell them that? :)
[21:44] <BlueWolf> isnnnn: Thanks too man - got to go. :D
[21:44] <zykotick9> Bodsda: like i'd care what MS thinks ;)
[21:47] <isnnnn> I work too much with ms software I guess ;)
[21:48] <sirriffsalot> When I do an "alsa_in -dhw:1" for my usb-driven amp, it works for a while and then crashes with a continuing variation of "delay=xxx" errors.. when I try to do "alsa_in -dhw:1" again the output always goes: "Unable to set hw params for playback: Input/output error Setting of hwparams failed: Input/output error" Any ideas..? I'm about to give up:/
[21:49] <Viking667> sirriffsalot: hm. unplug, replug?
[21:49] <soapee01> Anybody have a trick to kill a hung dpkg process when kill -9 fails?
[21:49] <designbybeck> Best beefed up laptop i7+ 8GB+ Video 1GB+ 500gbHDD+ to run Linux on??
[21:49] <Viking667> soapee01: without rebooting? hmm.... hard drive fine?
[21:50] <soapee01> Viking667 hdd fine, but very busy atm.
[21:50] <soapee01> and cannot stop the writing process.
[21:50] <Viking667> then let it wait. what else is it doing?
[21:50] <sirriffsalot> Viking667: this happens every 10 minutes or so, I can't go on this way
[21:50] <sirriffsalot> Viking667: gotta find the cause
[21:50] <soapee01> Viking667: it's going to be waiting forever then...
[21:50] <Viking667> sirriffsalot: hm. ANd I can't help out with that, unless there's continual USB resets.
[21:51] <Viking667> IS it going through a hub?
[21:51] <Viking667> ...sorry, additional hub?
[21:51] <sirriffsalot> Viking667: it's going to the front of the computer, so no I guess?
[21:51] <isnnnn> try the back ;)
[21:51] <Viking667> sirriffsalot: probably not. hm. tried another socket?
[21:51] <zykotick9> soapee01: that is a sudo kill -9 right?
[21:51] <sirriffsalot> Might as well try again........
[21:51] <Viking667> isnnnn beat me to it
[21:51] <isnnnn> hehe
[21:51] <soapee01> zykotick9 of course
[21:52] <zykotick9> soapee01: is this a lock issues?  or is dpkg still actually running?
[21:52] <sirriffsalot> But my keyboard is going via an additional set of hubs, as well as my keyboard, both plugged to the front, no problems with them
[21:52] <soapee01> zykotick9 ps aux says it's running.
[21:52] <patrunjel> Hi, I'm trying to get my PC to work as an alarm clock (don't ask :D ), i got all the BIOS stuff done, now I just don't know how can I make Ubuntu land straight into an extremely unprivileged user mode ( I just need a music player, not even a GUI or networking), without prompting for password (kinda how Winblows does when you have only one user with no password). Any ideas, please?
[21:53] <DrHalan> is anybody using precise with btrfs? just wondering how the situation is
[21:53] <isnnnn> patrunjel: single user mode
[21:53] <sirriffsalot> Now "lsusb" is taking forever just to display output...
[21:53] <zykotick9> soapee01: will "sudo killall dpk<TAB>" autocomplete to something?
[21:54] <sirriffsalot> Honestly, what is it with me and linux
[21:54] <soapee01> zykotick9: nope. also kill -9 `pgrep dpkg`;pgrep dpkg
[21:54] <soapee01> ; returns: 15334
[21:54] <jayar> where do i extract gnome themes
[21:54] <sirriffsalot> This is ridiculous, the output won't come, and doing control + c to kill the current command gives no hope either,  have to kill the terminal itself
[21:55] <atomicfusion> patrunjel: isn't there an autologin option under administration>login screen?
[21:55] <patrunjel> isnnnn, yeah, I thought about it but landing straight into root after every power-up seemed a funky idea. Anyways, thanks for the tip, unless I get any other responses I'm going with that
[21:55] <patrunjel> atomicfusion, is it? :)) let me check :D
[21:55] <zykotick9> soapee01: can you ubuntu.paste "ps aux | grep dpkg"
[21:56] <patrunjel> atomicfusion, thanks :D
[21:57] <soapee01> zykotick9: from what ma google says this could be related to heavy disk activity (which I have).  but I really need this process to die and cannot reboot. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1024021/
[21:57] <Rajvi> Hi all
[21:58] <faryshta> How can I UNINSTALL oracle-java7-installer? When I try I get this error E: oracle-java7-installer: the subprocess el script pre-removal returned error code 2
[21:59] <slyborg> hi sorry to be lazy and not search myself but which channel can i go to thats a general linux help channel or specifically for issues relating to Tails linux?
[21:59] <zykotick9> soapee01: and "sudo kill -9 15334" then "ps aux | grep dpkg" does it still show?  (this is going to create a lock issue, if successful)
[21:59] <soapee01> It will not succeed
[22:00] <Alan502> I connected a playstation dancepad through a usb adapter to my computer, it shows up in lsusb as ID 0810:0001 Personal Communication Systems, Inc. Dual PSX Adaptor but when I use jtest it doesn't seem to receive any events? help please!
[22:00] <cpet> Alan502: you already asked if no one knows no one will answer google the issue
[22:00] <zykotick9> soapee01: i cannot remember the last time -9 failed on someone on my own system... well best of luck - i don't have any other suggestions.
[22:00] <DJones> slyborg: https://tails.boum.org/support/index.en.html Their IRC channel is listed on this page
[22:00] <zykotick9> s/someone/something/
[22:01] <soapee01> zykotik9 same here.
[22:01] <slyborg> DJones: cheers!
[22:03] <Alan502> cpet, I have been googling since I first asked :(
[22:03] <Alan502> cpet, there is this one guy who apparently wrote a patch
[22:03] <cpet> and?
[22:03] <Alan502> cpet,  but it is for the joydev.c file which does not exist in ubuntu?
[22:04] <Alan502> apparently it only exists on other linux distributinos
[22:04] <cpet> then install the other distro? or patch the kernel manually which is a pain in ubuntu
[22:04] <cpet> but doable
[22:05] <Alan502> but i like ubuntu
[22:05] <Alan502> i don't wanna change to other distro
[22:05] <Alan502> :(
[22:05] <Viking667> huh?
[22:05] <zykotick9> Alan502: "ls /dev/input/js*" will show all josysticks, starting with js0.  you can test with "cat /dev/input/js0" and pressing buttons/directions should echo random characters to the terminal.  use ctrl+c to quit (also, it might mess up you terminal and you'd need to start a new one)
[22:05] <Viking667> I have a joydev here on ubuntu
[22:06] <Viking667> modprobe joydev (I think), or check whether your soundcard/whatever has support
[22:06] <KorvinSzanto> how can I force avconv to not obliterate video quality when converting?
[22:06] <kdsmain> does anyone know how to keep the dots from the login screen on the normal desktop? or know where i might go to find out?
[22:06] <zykotick9> KorvinSzanto: is avconv the ffmepg fork/thing?  what are you converting to/from?
[22:07] <Viking667> kdsmain: you're usually starting up X by that stage?
[22:07] <nobby4587> i have some seriou problem, can someone hel me?
[22:07] <KorvinSzanto> anything - ogg
[22:07] <KorvinSzanto> and yes
[22:07] <kdsmain> viking667: don't know what X is
[22:07] <zykotick9> webm is way better then ogm in my opinion (for video) - if you want a free/libre format.
[22:08] <zykotick9> KorvinSzanto: ^
[22:08] <Viking667> sorry, Xorg - the bit that gives you your pretty GUI on older Ubuntu. No idea for 12.04, I'm assuming it's still there
[22:08] <Viking667> put it this way. Are you running a pure text login?
[22:08] <kdsmain> no
[22:08] <kdsmain> i think it's the unity-greeter
[22:08] <KorvinSzanto> looks like anything - anything is terrible
[22:08] <Viking667> check out what /var/log/messages says. Should duplicate (roughly) what you want to see.
[22:09] <KorvinSzanto> can anyone suggest a better cli conversion software?
[22:09] <zykotick9> KorvinSzanto: the codec for OGG video is pretty old/outdated
[22:09] <KorvinSzanto> flv - mp4 tears the quality down aswell
[22:09] <Viking667> KorvinSzanto: what's wrong with mencoder?
[22:09] <kdsmain> Viking667: says no such file or directory
[22:09] <Viking667> that's .... weird.
[22:09] <zykotick9> KorvinSzanto: flv is java garbage, mp4 can do HD video (depends on your settings)
[22:10] <Viking667> kdsmain: do you have a /var/log directory?
[22:10] <KorvinSzanto> I'm testing out mencoder
[22:10] <kdsmain> Viking667: i do
[22:10] <majuscule> I'm trying to configure a third monitor and have noticed that with the "fglrx" driver, monitors 1 & 2 work, and with "radeon" monitors 1&3 work!
[22:10] <Viking667> kdsmain: hm.
[22:10] <zykotick9> KorvinSzanto: i use handbrake-cli for 90+% of my encoding, which is HD source -> mp4
[22:10] <Viking667> majuscule: does the ccc see your third monitor?
[22:10] <kdsmain> Viking667: i think the login screen has something to do with lightdm
[22:11] <tbrwon> I was wondering what is the sudo apt-get install for a terminal
[22:11] <majuscule> Viking667: what is the ccc?
[22:11] <Viking667> it does, yes.
[22:11] <Viking667> majuscule: the ATI control centre.
[22:11] <kdsmain> i can find tutorials on how to remove the dots, but not extend them into post-login use
[22:11] <cordoval> hi
[22:11] <zykotick9> KorvinSzanto: i WISH i could get similar quality in a libre format!  i used to use webm, but it was a HUGE pain and the quality wasn't close.  ogv was much worse.
[22:11] <Viking667> kdsmain: so what you want, is to not see lightdm?
[22:12] <tbrwon> How can I install a terminal on ubuntu using sudo apt-get install. Does anyone know how to:)
[22:12] <cordoval> my mouse is flickering, gets recognized work ok then i unplug it and plug it back and it does not get recognized anymore
[22:12] <majuscule> Viking667: amdcccle? yes it does, but i can't seem to configure it
[22:12] <Viking667> tbrwon: yes.
[22:12] <cordoval> the led lights lit up while i am pluggin but then they shun down
[22:12] <Viking667> majuscule: what dose it complain about?
[22:12] <cordoval> what can i ctry?
[22:12] <KorvinSzanto> I need to convert videos on the fly for a client
[22:12] <zykotick9> tbrwon: what to you mean by "terminal" (it's very unclear what you want)
[22:12] <Viking667> KorvinSzanto: from what to ... ogv?
[22:12] <KorvinSzanto> so I need to have some sort of system software that will convert without losing too much quality
[22:12] <kdsmain> Viking667: no there is a "display-grid=true" line in the unity-greeter which shows dots at the login and i'm wondering if there's a way to keep them showing after the login screen
[22:12] <KorvinSzanto> anything that they put in Viking667
[22:12] <kdsmain> normally they disappear
[22:13] <KorvinSzanto> mostly mp4 or flv
[22:13] <tbrwon> vikiing667: Can you give me a command or sudo apt-get install
[22:13] <zykotick9> KorvinSzanto: isn't there an oggconvert gui converter or something?
[22:13] <KorvinSzanto> can't be gui
[22:13] <zykotick9> KorvinSzanto: ahhh, ffmpeg (or avconv whatever) is probably your best bet
[22:14] <KorvinSzanto> right
[22:14] <KorvinSzanto> so back to my original question
[22:14] <KorvinSzanto> how can I get it to not suck
[22:14] <cordoval> ?
[22:14] <Viking667> tbrwon: you should already HAVE a terminal, if you're able to type stuff in.
[22:15] <Viking667> kdsmain: what the heck do you mean about dots? Now you have me lost.
[22:15] <kdsmain> Viking667: one sec
[22:15] <Alan502> zykotick9, sorry, I disconnected. did you see my last message?
[22:16] <Viking667> kdsmain: in fact, if you were able to show me a screenshot of what you meant, I might have a better idea.
[22:16] <tbrwon> vikiing667: If I  been asking for a terminal application to install on my linux base system why am I asking I cealy dont have one.
[22:16] <zykotick9> Alan502: i don't see it in scrollback?
[22:16] <kdsmain> Viking667: yeah i'm looking for one now
[22:16] <cordoval> how to fix my mouse problem?
[22:16] <patrunjel> Do you guys happen to know how do I make Rhythmbox / Banshee start playing automatically whichever files I tell it to?
[22:16] <Alan502> zykotick9, the thing is, it displays that the joystick  is connected (both js0 and js1 show up when i ls /dev/input/js*) but it does not seem to send any event to the computer (no characters appear, nothing shows up in jtest either) but I guess it works because the dancepad has some lights that turn on each time i press a button
[22:16] <majuscule> Viking667: it simply does not have any effect. I set all displays to "multi display/multi desktop" hit apply and restart X. I end up with 2 cloned displays... it's bizarre, it looks right in the GUI
[22:17] <kdsmain> Viking667: http://iloveubuntu.net/pictures_me/ugreeter.%204.png
[22:17] <zykotick9> Alan502: do you have 1 or 2 dance mats (or other controllers) currently plugged in?
[22:17] <majuscule> Viking667: but when I open amdcccle again it shows the first two overlapping and cloned and the third disabled (which is accurate as to what it is actually doing)
[22:17] <zykotick9> Alan502: i didn't see that before!
[22:17] <kdsmain> Viking667: apparently they annoy people a lot, but I like them
[22:18] <Viking667> hm. I'd rat around on your system to see if such a png exists that has the dots.
[22:18] <Alan502> zykotick9, only one! but two show up
[22:19] <zykotick9> Alan502: start with one!  remove all joysticks. "ls /dev/input/js*" should show nothing!  then plug one in - js0 should appear.  so test with "cat /dev/input/js0" then use that mat and see if garbage types on the screen.
[22:19] <Viking667> Anyhow, I'd best depart
[22:19] <majuscule> Viking667: :-(
[22:19] <Viking667> I'm getting completely distracted by what everyone else is asking, and can't even remember what I came here for to begin with.
[22:19] <Alan502> zykotick9, unplugged: ls: cannot access /dev/input/js*: No such file or directory
[22:20] <majuscule> Viking667: :D thanks anyway
[22:20] <Viking667> majuscule: weird.
[22:20] <zykotick9> Alan502: good so far ;)
[22:20] <Alan502> zykotick9, plugged: /dev/input/js0  /dev/input/js1
[22:20] <kdsmain> Viking667: kk well thank you
[22:20] <kdsmain> aw
[22:20] <Alan502> zykotick9, when I start to cat a set of random characters appear at once, without me pressing any buttons
[22:21] <zykotick9> Alan502: do you see js1? - why to it show 2?  does this psx-controller-adapter have two ports?
[22:21] <zykotick9> Alan502: that can be a bad sign!
[22:21] <zykotick9> Alan502: random characters, with nothing being pushes still means the input is getting random signals.
[22:22] <Alan502> zykotick9, it only has one port, it's weird. Let me try plugging just the adapter without the dance mat attached
[22:22] <buddyigin> hi everybody!7
[22:23] <buddyigin> i have a serious question
[22:23] <zykotick9> Alan502: are the characters scrolling in real time?  or did you just get a "blob" of them once?  if you use the mat to more characters appear?
[22:23] <faryshta> How can I UNINSTALL oracle-java7-installer? When I try I get this error E: oracle-java7-installer: the subprocess el script pre-removal returned error code 2
[22:23] <buddyigin> is someone reading me?
[22:24] <Alan502> zykotick9, i just get a blob of them at once
[22:24] <zykotick9> Alan502: FYI psx->usb adapters some work with dance-mats (accept two inputs at once) but most don't :(  [oh god, my ddr secret is out ;)]
[22:24] <Alan502> zykotick9, i just tried plugging the adapter without the dance mat and both js0 and js1 keep showing up. and when I cat js0 and js1 the blob keeps appearing although with diffrent random characters than with the dancemat connected
[22:25] <Alan502> zykotick9, hahaha
[22:25] <Alan502> i see
[22:25] <buddyigin> i'm experiencing some problem with the copy of some file
[22:25] <Alan502> zykotick9, ddr fan?
[22:25] <zykotick9> Alan502: shhh!
[22:25] <buddyigin> zykotick9: yo you too? ddr or pump it up? :D
[22:26] <zykotick9> stepmania ftw
[22:26] <Alan502> hahaha
[22:26] <Alan502> xD
[22:26] <buddyigin> zykotick9: stepmania rapsody or dancemat?
[22:26] <zykotick9> buddyigin: i have no idea what rapsody is...
[22:27] <buddyigin> zykotick9: rapsody is with keyboard :)
[22:27] <zizoo> Hey, how can I split output from a mkfifo pipe handle? I want to send the output to multiple (variable number of) places as needed for remote displays and monitoring processes....
[22:28] <zykotick9> buddyigin: i see.  no, i got dance mats (how many i've gone through is shocking ;)  but i haven't played in too long.
[22:28] <dariusz_> sa ludki z polski
[22:28] <zizoo> Or maybe it's the input that's messing up on me. It's kinda bugging out a bit since I started messing with it. ._.;
[22:28] <dariusz_> ?
[22:28] <buddyigin> zykotick9: aaaaah :) i use keyboard :D i completed Afronova 9 step :P
[22:29] <zykotick9> !pl | dariusz_ i hope this is correct, it might not be.
[22:29] <buddyigin> can someone please help me?
[22:29] <zykotick9> buddyigin: impossible on mat!
[22:30] <buddyigin> zykotick9: indeed :D it has 3 step combo
[22:31] <mr_dallas> I'm having problems building cdfs-src on 12.04  - any advice / opinions?
[22:31] <zykotick9> buddyigin: i guess that's what arms and hands are for ;)  </OT>
[22:31] <zizoo> Ok, I think I can fix it now. I just need a secondary mkfifo handle. But it's a temporary solution, and not so good if I want to have multiple monitors running.... Any tips?
[22:31] <zizoo> Or should I probably go to a bash scripting channel? ^^;;
[22:31] <zizoo> Do we have one of those?
[22:31] <zykotick9> #bash ftw
[22:31] <zizoo> Woo! Thanks.
[22:32] <faryshta> I am getting an error "subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2" everytime I use apt-get.
[22:32] <faryshta> Don't google it, doesn't work.
[22:32] <buddyigin> zykotick9: yup :P irather say FINGER :D
[22:33] <celso> Hi all! people, if i want to install ubuntu, (not by USC), in wich directory should i install to get the laucher on Games? maybe in /opt?
[22:33] <skynetducky> when installing via the minimal ubuntu iso  , is it possible to change dns info before the install ?
[22:34] <skynetducky> i want to use google dns
[22:34] <celso> wait... wait
[22:34] <celso> my mistake
[22:34] <celso> *if i want to install Amnesia ttd on ubuntu!
[22:35] <Bodsda> skynetducky: no, you'll have to change it after install, but it's a trivial change
[22:35] <Orphite> #ubuntu-beginners
[22:35] <celso> no matter in wich directory i install it?
[22:36] <skynetducky> Bodsda:   oh :-( , my router keeps wanting ipv6 so dns resolution is super slow that's why i wanted to use for examble google dns so i could install it faster, it's gonna take hours :-(
[22:36] <skynetducky> thanks anyway
[22:36] <Bodsda> skynetducky: for the install session, do you get the option to configure the network?
[22:36] <skynetducky> Bodsda: I think so
[22:37] <skynetducky> sorry i just stopped the installation so i'll have to try again
[22:37] <celso> people, if i want to install Amnesia TDD on ubuntu, (not by USC), in wich directory should i install to get the laucher on Games? maybe in /opt?
[22:37] <Bodsda> skynetducky: part of that configuration should probably be dns then
[22:37] <skynetducky> Bodsda: yeah  okay so i'll look into that thanks!
[22:37] <Bodsda> celso: it's irrelevant - the post install scripts will do that if that's what the developers intended
[22:38] <majuscule> What can I do to get 3 monitors working? My tty clones on monitor 1&3, xorg.conf (with radeon driver) shows on 1&2 and the fglrx driver shows 1&3!
[22:38] <majuscule> amdcccle has no effect
[22:39] <OerHeks> celso according to http://ubuntuisit.blogspot.nl/2010/10/amnesia-dark-descent-install-tutorial.html your choise /opt/ is oke
[22:39] <celso> Bodsda: thanks! that is what i would like to know. Ty!
[22:39] <celso> OerHeks : thanks!
[22:40] <Bodsda> majuscule: when I last tried 3 monitors, I saw errors saying my GPU couldn't output to 3 seperate displays, you may need to gfx cards
[22:40] <majuscule> Bodsda: i have two cards
[22:40] <Bodsda> 2*
[22:41] <rolandb> can anyone point me to an article or link explaining how to MANUALLY create a grub entry for the lubuntu installer? I want to put it on its own partition, on a USB bootstick... all the articles refer to some universal tool that just doesnt suit my purposes
[22:42] <Bodsda> majuscule: ah, that's all I've got I'm afraid. sorry
[22:42] <majuscule> Bodsda: np, thanks!
[22:42] <Bodsda> rolandb: grub 1 or 2?
[22:43] <escott> rolandb, /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[22:43] <faryshta> I am getting an error "subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2" everytime I use apt-get. Google doesn't work here.
[22:43] <Bodsda> rolandb: and, lubuntu 'installer' - can't you just use unetbootin to extract the iso to the usb?
[22:43] <Bodsda> faryshta: googles working fine for me
[22:45] <nsbig> Hello all.
[22:45] <nsbig> Where do I download packages for PAM?
[22:46] <nsbig> Specifically, the shared object (.so) files?
[22:46] <motherbrain> I am using wireshark and for capture devices I see eth0 , lo , , usb bus 1-5 basically I want to capture only my bluetooth packets ... my bluetooth devices is plugged into a usb port and the headset is able to send and receive audio to and from the computer I just want to capture those packets is there a setting in wireshark or do I have to set a filter by a mac address of the device or something?
[22:46] <EuroNerd> How can I fix my 12.04 to display my users' wallpapers in the login screen again?  Because now it's the old violet one.  (It works this way since a couple of ill-fated experiments with graphics drives.)
[22:47] <nsbig> Hello, is anybody in here?
[22:47] <Bodsda> motherbrain: yeah, you need a filter
[22:47] <ki7rw> anyone know why my wireless connection won't start at boot up? i have it configured to connect but it appears that my hardware wireless switch is turned off at boot - all the time
[22:48] <nsbig> ki7rw -- have you checked the HCL for ubuntu?
[22:48] <motherbrain> so should it be eth0 for the capture device or a usb 1 - 5 because I tried some of the usb and nothing yet
[22:48] <escott> faryshta, you can modify the offending script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.postrm after determining what is causing the exit 2 to occur and then the removal should go smoothly
[22:48] <ki7rw> it's the iwlwifi driver so it's not an hcl issue
[22:48] <MonkeyDust> rolandb  scroll down to point 5, it may be useful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[22:50] <nsbig> quit
[22:51] <EuroNerd> How can I fix my 12.04 to display my users' wallpapers in the login screen again?  Because now it's the standard violet one.  (It works this way since a couple of ill-fated experiments with graphics drives.)
[22:51] <faryshta> escott, the package oracle-java7-installer is causing it. What should I delete?
[22:52] <faryshta> Bodsda, so what did Google told you about my problem?
[22:52] <escott> faryshta, the simplest thing would be to comment "set -e" out of the script so any intermediate error will not cause it to fail
[22:54] <jgrevich> it seems opencl apps require a xwindow to be open?  how can I do this from a remote terminal?  The apps work fine when I access them via the local terminal at the machine, but not via ssh
[22:55] <Bodsda> faryshta: that it is a problem with a partly removed package - the first 3 hits look promising
[22:56] <faryshta> Bodsda, promising doesn't mean useful. I tried them. Thank you.
[23:01] <Alan502> I connected a playstation dancepad through a usb adapter to my computer, it shows up in lsusb as ID 0810:0001 Personal Communication Systems, Inc. Dual PSX Adaptor but when I use jtest it doesn't seem to receive any events? help please!
[23:01] <jagginess> Alan502, not our fault you dont know how to dance.
[23:02] <ChrisFromTheBay> Hey guys, I'm having an issue... certain pages on my site are timing out with 20+ concurrent users. Any advice on how to track down what's going on? Thx
[23:05] <KorvinSzanto> Alan502, use evtest
[23:07] <KorvinSzanto> how can I send events to a device?
[23:08] <escott> KorvinSzanto, "to" a device?
[23:08] <KorvinSzanto> yes
[23:08] <Boohbah> ChrisFromTheBay: check your logs
[23:08] <KorvinSzanto> heh
[23:08] <stef1a> why does my ubuntu 12.04 monitor auto-adjust the brightness when i switch between windows, and how can i stop this (i.e. keep a fixed brightness level)?
[23:08] <KorvinSzanto> I have a button on my keyboard I'd like to trigger
[23:09] <Alan502> jagginess, lol
[23:09] <escott> KorvinSzanto, you mean you want to emulate a button?
[23:09] <KorvinSzanto> eys
[23:09] <KorvinSzanto> yes
[23:09] <KorvinSzanto> I haven't done any hacking like this before
[23:10] <zykotick9> Alan502: do you see the "..Inc. Dual PSX.." it does have two plugs
[23:10] <gartral> hey all, I'm installing on a new system, and I can't remember the keyboard combo too get into the info screen from the loading "dots"
[23:10] <escott> KorvinSzanto, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man1/xte.1.html
[23:11] <gartral> isn't it ctrl-alt-f2?
[23:11] <escott> stef1a, "between windows" what do you mean
[23:12] <yeats> gartral: what do you mean by "the info screen"?
[23:12] <stef1a> escott: minimize a window, maximize another one...
[23:12] <escott> stef1a, and that changes the backlight?
[23:12] <stef1a> escott: yes sir.
[23:12] <gartral> yeats: I remember a while ago, I could bring up a screen with info on what's happening with the loading process when booting from CD.. I never knew the proper name for it
[23:13] <zykotick9> gartral: the origional loading dots aren't at the terminal level.  just sayin.  have you tried nomodeset?  it's probably the most common kernel/boot issue right now.
[23:13] <escott> stef1a, thats crazy. are you sure its not just reducing the backlight until there is some mouse or keyboard activity
[23:13] <stef1a> escott: absolutely sure
[23:13] <stef1a> the weird thing though is that it only happens sometimes
[23:13] <escott> stef1a, never heard of that problem before
[23:14] <yeats> gartral: ah - gotcha
[23:14] <yeats> gartral: so it's not fully loading and you're trying to find out why?
[23:14] <psusi> stef1a, does the contents of the windows matter?  for instance, one makes the screen mostly black, and the other is full of bright colors?
[23:14] <Macaroni> does anyone know if Opera's private browsing function writes anything (cookies, history etc) to the hard drive, then deletes it when you quit the session, or is everything kept in RAM?
[23:15] <gartral> yeats: yep
[23:15] <ShinyObjects> Macaroni: You could always use iotop or lsof and test.
[23:15] <rlrosa> #gpsd
[23:15] <ShinyObjects> Or make everything in ~/.opera (or wherever it keeps its stuff) read only while it's running and find out :)
[23:15] <motherbrain> well, I found with wireshark packets are being sent on usb 5 port/device and also lsusb gives http://pastebin.com/rqWK7gue so I can only guess the bluetooth packets are there somewhere?
[23:16] <zykotick9> with chromium/firefox why use a non-free browser?
[23:16] <KorvinSzanto> escott, not sure how to trigger non-standard keyboard keys
[23:16] <Macaroni> ShinyObjects: i might try that, thanks
[23:16] <ShinyObjects> if it eats crap and crashes, looks like it was probably trying to write something,  yep!
[23:16] <yeats> gartral: ctrl-alt-F1 (through F7 or F8) will get you to the ttys if the system has loaded enough
[23:16] <GNSTalk> Gents, is there a way to backup an entire HDD (with Windows 7 and Ubuntu) into another HDD? I'm thinking of moving from 250GB into 1TB but don't want to go through the installation process again! Thanks!
[23:16] <escott> KorvinSzanto, like what?
[23:17] <motherbrain> though I only see packets that say usb urb
[23:17] <KorvinSzanto> type 4 (EV_MSC), code 4 (MSC_SCAN), value a8
[23:17] <ShinyObjects> GNSTalk: you could try dd'ing everything over
[23:17] <yeats> gartral: from there you should be able to 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' or somesuch to see what
[23:17] <KorvinSzanto> escott
[23:17] <yeats> gartral: 's going on
[23:17] <KorvinSzanto> that's the output from evtest
[23:17] <zykotick9> GNSTalk: the clonezilla livecd should be able to move one driver (with all partitions) to another one.  (have backups ;)
[23:17] <ShinyObjects> Then boot off a liveCD or the like and resize the partitions
[23:17] <ShinyObjects> Or just make a new partition on the last 750 gigs
[23:17] <escott> KorvinSzanto, what key do you want to emulate?
[23:17] <sbattey_> GNS3Talk I honestly think it would be easiest to do a fresh install
[23:17] <GNS3Talk> zykotick9: Does it come in Ubuntu 12.04 CD?
[23:17] <KorvinSzanto> a non standard key, I can't really tell you the key without you seeing the keyboard
[23:17] <zykotick9> GNS3Talk: i agree with sbattey_ fresh install ftw
[23:18] <KorvinSzanto> it enables/disabled the system fan
[23:18] <GNS3Talk> sbattey_: I just did a fresh install yesterday :\
[23:18] <sbattey_> GNS3Talk: Cloning a hard drive takes a very long time and it isn';t always successful :\
[23:18] <yeats> GNS3Talk: clonezilla will do what you're after
[23:18] <gartral> yeats: It froxe..
[23:18] <KorvinSzanto> toggles would be a better word for that
[23:18] <gartral> froze*
[23:18] <GNS3Talk> yeats: Thanks mate.
[23:18] <sbattey_> GNS3Talk good luck!
[23:18] <zykotick9> GNS3Talk: clonezilla is a livecd on it's own, like norton ghost kinda.  even supports network install i hear.  not ubuntu related thus OT.
[23:18] <yeats> gartral: you might try the alternate installer
[23:18] <yeats> !alternate | gartral
[23:18] <GNS3Talk> zykotick9: Alright I get it.
[23:18] <GNS3Talk> zykotick9: Thanks
[23:18] <escott> KorvinSzanto, thats an acpi function. its not a key that hits the input layer at any point. find the file in /sys and then use "sudo tee " to force a value to the file
[23:19] <eoss> Hello, in resolv.conf, DNS ips, which one takes priority?
[23:19] <motherbrain> there is an application part to these packets so maybe this is where the bluetooth packet is contained but I was hopeing that wireshark would show me the packet structure of bluetooth data / headers for research purposes but maybe you need a built in blue tooth transciever to do this and not a usb one.... since maybe the wireshark program doesn't analysis the structure of the usb data /bluetooth as I would expect
[23:19] <gartral> yeats: Out of CD-Rs. and no flash drive boots on this system
[23:19] <KorvinSzanto> escott, I don't quite understand
[23:19] <ShinyObjects> GNS3Talk: another fun tip if you need to duplicate your setup on another machine....
[23:20] <KorvinSzanto> the key works fine
[23:20] <GNS3Talk> ShinyObjects: what is it?
[23:20] <fraterm> there is a usb bus analyzer in the software pool
[23:20] <fraterm> i forget the name.
[23:20] <ShinyObjects> GNS3Talk: not as good as cloning, but using dpkg --get-selections
[23:20] <fraterm> motherbrain: see above.
[23:20] <ShinyObjects> so something like dpkg --get-selections > packageList.txt
[23:20] <GNS3Talk> Okay
[23:21] <motherbrain> anybody out there a blue to expert
[23:21] <ShinyObjects> then copy packageList.txt over to the new machine
[23:21] <KorvinSzanto> escott, how can I find the file?
[23:21] <KorvinSzanto> what am I looking for
[23:21] <zykotick9> eoss: 12.04 perhaps changed some of that behaviour (i'm under the impression resolv.conf doesn't believe like it used to).  i'm interested to see answers to your question (it's certainly ubuntu specific)
[23:21] <ShinyObjects> and dpkg --set-selections < packageList.txt
[23:21] <fraterm> :( --unexpert.
[23:21] <ShinyObjects> It'll install all the stuff you manually installed on your old setup :)
[23:21] <ShinyObjects> Super slick
[23:21] <escott> KorvinSzanto, i have no idea honestly. you might want to google for your laptop brand and "acpi linux /sys fancontrol" there may be a utility that will do this for you more easily
[23:21] <GNS3Talk> ShinyObjects: Do I need two seperate PCs in this case?
[23:22] <zykotick9> eoss: s/believe/behave/
[23:22] <ShinyObjects> GNS3Talk: nope. Just copy packageList.txt onto a thumb drive or the like
[23:22] <escott> KorvinSzanto, here are some examples http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_control_fan_speed
[23:22] <eoss> hmm
[23:22] <GNS3Talk> Okay thanks ShinyObjects
[23:22] <motherbrain> "there is a usb bus analyzer in the software pool" which repo am I looking for it in?
[23:22] <ShinyObjects> Then boot into your new install and run the 2nd command
[23:22] <yeats> gartral: any of these options possible?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation_without_a_CD
[23:22] <ShinyObjects> You bet, GNS3Talk. It's saved me a lot of time whenever I start up a new web server or something and cloning isn't an option
[23:23] <peay> can someone help me with an issue im having?
[23:23] <ShinyObjects> Copy over everything in /home, run the dpkg, and maybe a file or two from /etc and you've got 99 percent of the work done
[23:23] <eoss> zykotick9: i found this http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man5/resolver.5.html
[23:23] <zykotick9> eoss: that's for lucid - probably doesn't apply
[23:23] <jagginess> !ask
[23:24] <fraterm> motherbrain, also here http://bluez.org/download There is a bluetooth data dump and protocol analysis tarball there.
[23:24] <peay> how can i fix my touchpda
[23:24] <peay> pad*
[23:24] <jagginess> peay, laptop?
[23:24] <XiRoN> Hey guys I have a network system I want to test for stress by sending large packets of information to the host, does anyone know of any software I could use for this?
[23:25] <peay> yes
[23:25] <jagginess> peay, there are different laptops
[23:25] <peay> its a clickpad
[23:25] <eoss> zykotick9: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man5/resolver.5.html
[23:25] <escott> XiRoN, you can specify payload size with ping
[23:25] <zykotick9> eoss: that's probably better ;)
[23:25] <jagginess> peay, well if you knew the laptop model, i think that might help
[23:25] <peay> right and left click work but the buttons are registering the cursor
[23:25] <eoss> just noticed you can switch from different versions at the top
[23:25] <giga> XiRoN,Just try nmap
[23:25] <peay> hp dv-6 3122us
[23:26] <XiRoN> escott, I want to attempt to inject 100Mbits of data into my host
[23:26] <XiRoN> escott, Will ping really do anythin?
[23:26] <fraterm> motherbrain, to your earlier query, the software I saw is called vusb-analyzer it doesn't directly trace usb data, you'd need a hardware analyzer to capture data for it, or vmware.
[23:26] <KorvinSzanto> escott, I have another question
[23:27] <escott> XiRoN, i thought you were trying to determine MTU. no ping will not work for what you are proposing
[23:27] <gartral> yeats: Nope.
[23:27] <jagginess> peay, i dont understand the problem.
[23:27] <KorvinSzanto> I have an eject button that sends an event, however it doesn't actually do anything
[23:27] <KorvinSzanto> running eject works
[23:27] <XiRoN> I want to see how much data my server can handle before it becomes unresponsive.
[23:27] <KorvinSzanto> but I'd like to map it to that key
[23:27] <XiRoN> I want to see how much incoming data my server can handle before it becomes unresponsive.
[23:27] <escott> KorvinSzanto, so it sends an event you see in xev
[23:27] <KorvinSzanto> yes
[23:27] <KorvinSzanto> evtest
[23:28] <XiRoN> escott:  I want to see how much incoming data my server can handle before it becomes unresponsive.
[23:28]  * XiRoN is sorry for spamming that
[23:28] <escott> XiRoN, ok. what protocol is the service you are testing?
[23:28] <gartral> yeats: Here's the deal, It's a Dell Latitude d610.. it's loading up to the point where the dots turn orange, and freezing up..
[23:28] <motherbrain> do you guys know of a good hardware analysiser for the most general interfaces ... I love wire shark but it is mainly geared for just networking based hardware
[23:28] <peay> is there a way to prevent the bottom 1/4 of my touchpad from moving the mouse
[23:28] <peay> or cursor
[23:28] <XiRoN> I just want to test the websocket, HTTP.
[23:29] <escott> KorvinSzanto, if it appears in xev you should be able to map it to a command in the keyboard shortcuts
[23:29] <Boohbah> motherbrain: an oscilloscope
[23:29] <KorvinSzanto> no keyboard buttons show up in xev
[23:29] <escott> XiRoN, you could use something like curl
[23:29] <KorvinSzanto> scratch that
[23:29] <KorvinSzanto> they do
[23:29] <XiRoN> escott, Really? :O
[23:29] <KorvinSzanto> not that one though
[23:30] <escott> XiRoN, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9485157/wwwcurl-how-to-upload-post-large-files
[23:30] <escott> KorvinSzanto, the question is if this eject key is a key or an acpi function.
[23:30] <KorvinSzanto> I see
[23:31] <FoolsRun> Hey, does anyone know how to install Psychonauts from the Humble Indie Bundle?
[23:31] <KorvinSzanto> it doesn't show up in xev but it shows up in evtest
[23:31] <FoolsRun> I have psychonauts-installer but it doesn't execute
[23:32] <snowveil___> I just installed 12.04 64-bit desktop edition, and this is my first time using Unity (ran 11.04 previously), I have two windows of Xchat and one of Google chrome that I cannot "access" with the launcher menu on the right, how do I recover them and prevent this from happening again?
[23:32] <peay> jagginess: is there a way to prevent the bottom 1/4 of my touchpad from moving the mouse
[23:32] <escott> KorvinSzanto, if it appears in evtest you should be able to use that
[23:33] <Froodle> How can I remove "Show Desktop" from the alt-tab listings?  (Ubuntu 12.04)
[23:33] <KorvinSzanto> brb
[23:34] <DaEvil> can a get a better alt-tab? i get problems to switch from one terminal window to another
[23:34] <jagginess> peay, actually i covered this slightly long ago with someone, yes you can configure zones, but I do not remember exactly what is used (or if it does the job exactly like its supposed to) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad  (it may be synclient)
[23:34] <tbrwon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfwMfhGzcls
[23:35] <motherbrain> "motherbrain: an oscilloscope" well ya, that would do it but that was a bit over kill since I would rather have a software/ program out there to convert it to readable text from voltage pulses ... which in general a  oscilloscope you would have to watch and record the signal / translate it from waves to 1/0's then to ascii ,...etc This is a little bit over kill... I just want a program that you can easyilly set up and work with like
[23:35] <motherbrain>  wireshark but for usb's
[23:35] <pelaton> why is so much phlegm collecting in my neck
[23:35] <arooni> hi folks;  i have added some ppa's to my ubuntu 12.04 installation.  however sometimes they 404.  update manager gives me a red warning icon saying, "the update info is outdated please update manually and click check for updates" ... when i do that; because the ppa's 404; update manager still says last updated 9 days ago and icon is still there.  do i get rid of the ppas?
[23:36] <jagginess> peay, maybe this link too may help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SamsungSeries9 ..
[23:36] <jagginess> peay, this will not be easy for you.
[23:36] <motherbrain> partly I think the program would have to be smart enough to parse thru the data inside the usb packets and put it into bluetooth readable packet format though I don't know if any program tries to do this for hardware onto of hardware
[23:37] <peay> jagginess: I know but this is the only thing that has kept me from running linux for a long time thanks for your help
[23:37] <motherbrain> bluez is a pain in the nuts to set up since I am getting checking for DBUS... no
[23:37] <motherbrain> configure: error: D-Bus library is required
[23:38] <jagginess> peay, check this one out .. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1603683
[23:38] <motherbrain> which I know if I start downloading D-Bus libraries it is going to become a nightmare
[23:38] <jagginess> peay, there doesn't seem to be a straight through walk on this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1603683 may be closer than the others i seen
[23:38] <motherbrain> unless there is a synaptic or apt-get way of installing all this stuff one shot
[23:39] <jagginess> motherbrain, i'm betting there is already dbus/bluetooth applets of some sort
[23:39] <Jonii> I must say, Ubuntu 12.4 is the best thing....... Well, the best thing pretty much ever
[23:39] <wad3g> Do you think anyone could assist me with several Barracuda NG Firewall questions?
[23:39] <motherbrain> what how is an applet that runs in  a webbrowser going to help me?
[23:40] <sysdoc> Seems the ssh key on my local machine has had the pass changed, have no idea how that happened, but is there a way as root to change that pass with out knowing what the pass currently is?
[23:40] <snowveil___> I just installed 12.04 64-bit desktop edition, and this is my first time using Unity (ran 11.04 previously), I have two windows of Xchat and one of Google chrome that I cannot "access" with the launcher menu on the right, how do I recover them and prevent this from happening again? (they do not appear in alt+tab)
[23:40] <KorvinSzanto> escott, what was your suggestion
[23:40] <SolarisBoy> wad3g: what type of barracuda questions? this probably isn't the room though
[23:41] <motherbrain> at best it would be a make believe thing... and even if the applet could some how fork the data to it self it seems like it would be a werid way of doing things
[23:41] <escott> KorvinSzanto, I'm not sure what you are seeing
[23:41] <jagginess> motherbrain, webbrowsers aren't the only software that use applets
[23:41] <wad3g> I'm looking for a way to connect to my corporate VPN. which uses Barracuda NG Firewall. Is there a channel that may better suit my question?
[23:42] <jagginess> wad3g, barracuda site should have the client connection info
[23:42] <KorvinSzanto> escott, this is what I see in evtest with one press
[23:42] <KorvinSzanto> https://gist.github.com/2871517
[23:42] <jagginess> wad3g, i actually have the barracuda tap device
[23:42] <motherbrain> well, I have only worked with them thru an appletviewer or a webpage / smartphone way how are you refering to an applet?
[23:42] <wad3g> It has information, but not for Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit
[23:42] <SolarisBoy> wad3g: i am not sure about that, you may do better in #networking asking if anyone is familiar, and like jagginess said - barracuda support is rather responsive just mail support@barracuda.com and give them your serial
[23:43] <wad3g> I'll try networking out. Thanks for help jagginess and SolarisBoy
[23:43] <SolarisBoy> i use the mail gateways from barracuda but have familiarity with the firewall - if you need to access vpn you need to a) have one setup b) know the connection info
[23:43] <SolarisBoy> wad3g: sure
[23:43] <jagginess> wad3g, you have the link?
[23:43] <wad3g> It is setup and I have the connection info
[23:44] <avinashhm> Hi friends, does 12.04 ubuntu support mounting nfs shares ;
[23:45] <motherbrain> And I see the problem is I have a usb bluetooth tranciever plugged into a usb port wireshark is just collecting/capturing the usb packets so the bluetooth data is in the usb protocal however I don't know where or how to get it to show.
[23:45] <avinashhm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1024156/ ; I am trying to mount from a windows server ; i get above error
[23:45] <avinashhm> seems like cifs/ nfs is not supported .. the same command used to work in 11.10 .. any help pls
[23:46] <jagginess> wad3g, a description is a 'Web bortal-based' ssl vpn.. tells me it may be using a java plugin for the webbrowser (use sun's java plugin)
[23:46] <escott> KorvinSzanto, add to your .Xmodmap the line "keycode 194 = XF86Eject" and then import that into you xmodmap rules and see if the key gets a name
[23:46] <jagginess> ,/portal/bortal
[23:46] <escott> KorvinSzanto, "xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap"
[23:47] <jagginess> avinashhm, apt-get install cifs, modprobe cifs
[23:47] <Jonii> snowveil___: alt+tab only reaches windows that are currently in the same workspace you are(by default there are four workspaces, arranged as 2x2 grid)
[23:47] <jagginess> avinashhm, they changed the name, "apt-get install cifs-utils smbfs",
[23:48] <snowveil___> Jonii, understood, but they're not in other workspaces either
[23:48] <jagginess> avinashhm, and be sure to do "modprobe cifs"
[23:48] <Jonii> With 11.10 I had a problem that sometimes windows teleported themselves around, so only a small part of them was left visible on any workspace, and trying to reach them via launcher caused launcher to go to some workspace, but you couldn't see the app in question
[23:49] <KorvinSzanto> escott, I added that to .Xmodmap, then ran xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap. The output of xmodmap didn't change
[23:49] <EuroNerd> How can I fix my 12.04 to display my users' wallpapers in the login screen again?  Because now it's the standard violet one.  (It works this way since a couple of ill-fated experiments with graphics drives.)
[23:49] <Jonii> do you think that might have happened, snowveil___ ?
[23:49] <snowveil___> Jonii, ps- A | grep -i xchat   reveals 3 distinct xchat processes running, and I have no idea how to reach them with the gui
[23:49] <avinashhm> jagginess, trying
[23:50] <Yago> jagginess, hello
[23:50] <snowveil___> Jonii, clicking the icon on the launcher does nothing but launch a new process
[23:50] <jagginess> avinashhm, i'm looking at my /etc/fstab (cuse i use a globally shared read-only mountpoint)-- i have a line like "//mylocalip/myshare /mnt/mymountpath/ smbfs user=ausername,password=apassword,ro 0 0"
[23:50] <avinashhm> jagginess, that was the probem ... works great now ..
[23:50] <Jonii> snowveil___: and the processes are not hiding on top right corner either?
[23:50] <jagginess> avinashhm, and not "\\mylocalip\myshare /mnt/mymountpath/ ... etc etc.."
[23:50] <escott> KorvinSzanto, im not sure how to read the evtest output
[23:50] <c_smith> is there some part of the USC that is needed for purchases to work in an Ubuntu spin such as mint?
[23:51] <KorvinSzanto> heh yeah
[23:51] <brightspark> EuroNerd, to change login screen wallpaper in older versions this worked.  I don't have 12.04 so can't verify.  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/45315/how-to-change-the-ubuntu-linux-login-screen/
[23:51] <motherbrain> Ya, is there any way I can make a usb bluetooth tranciever show up as not a usb device but a network device that wireshark can use directly even though it goes in the usb... something sort of a pass thru...I don;t care about the structure of the usb packets on the structure from the bottom/up of the bluetooth packets
[23:51] <jagginess> avinashhm, that's good
[23:51] <avinashhm> i was missing these helper programs ..
[23:51] <KorvinSzanto> brb reboot
[23:51] <avinashhm> would have ur line in my fstab as well ..
[23:51] <avinashhm> jagginess, thanks very much
[23:51] <avinashhm> :-)
[23:51] <jagginess> avinashhm, np
[23:51] <snowveil___> Jonii, I'm not sure, how would I access them?
[23:52] <EuroNerd> brightspark, I'm not sure anything pre-12.04 applies, since dynamic, user-specific wallpapers on login were introduced only in 12.04.
[23:52] <alecjw> hi all, i'm just wondering how i delete emails in evolution so that they dont reappear?
[23:52] <snowveil___> Jonii, my main misunderstanding is, say I launch a terminal....if I click the terminal on the launcher menu, it opens that process of the terminal.  This does not happen with xchat nor chrome, it simply launches a new process and I can't find the old process
[23:53] <alecjw> when i delete an email, it comes back when i next start evolution and the message count in the folder doesnt go down
[23:53] <Jonii> snowveil___: some applications can, when minimized, go lurk in upper right corner, where you should be able to see icons of those processes
[23:53] <aaron_samuel> alecjw: what type of account are you connecting to for mail?
[23:54] <alecjw> aaron_samuel: gmail, imap
[23:54] <Jonii> But I'm unaware of chrome doing that on purpose, so I think there's something else wrong with your system
[23:54] <aaron_samuel> alecjw: have you checked you imap settings in gmail?
[23:54] <jagginess> motherbrain, bluemon
[23:54] <alecjw> i have, i'm not sure what they should be but i've tried both auto expunge and manual expunge
[23:54] <KorvinSzanto> escott, if it helps, evtest ties into an event stream (/dev/input/event3)
[23:55] <escott> KorvinSzanto, i just dont know what the keycode is in that output
[23:55] <KorvinSzanto> alright
[23:55] <KorvinSzanto> thanks for the helkp
[23:55] <escott> KorvinSzanto, im assuming it is "c2" but i dont know for sure, or if the evtest output would even change
[23:55] <motherbrain> will that work over usb ?
[23:55] <aaron_samuel> alecjw: check "When I mark a message in IMAP as deleted:" and "When a message is marked as deleted and expunged from the last visible IMAP folder:"
[23:55] <Jordan_U> c_smith: Just so you know, Mint isn't a "Spin" it's a derivative distribution with its own set of repositories. That means that it's not normally supported here, though your question about using apps purchased via Software Center in other Distributions without re-purchasing is something I'd still consider on-topic for this channel. Unfortunately my guess is that you won't find anyone here who knows much about how purchasing from Software Center works.
[23:55] <escott> KorvinSzanto, now that it has a name (we hope) maybe it will appear in xev
[23:56] <KorvinSzanto> it's always c2, that number changes depending on the key
[23:56] <Yago> anyone know how I can edit the Windows Boot Loader in Ubuntu
[23:56] <snowveil___> thanks anyway Jonii
[23:56] <KorvinSzanto> yeah doesn't show up in xev
[23:56] <Jonii> snowveil___: for diagnostic purposes, you could check if there are other processes you can make disappear too, and how to make them disappear
[23:56] <brightspark> Yago, how do you want to edit it?  Change the way it shows up in GRUB?  Alter its behaviour?
[23:56] <Jonii> But yeah, can't help any further. Good luck with that
[23:57] <Erealz> hey what the best webfrontend torrent server?
[23:57] <c_smith> Jordan_U, thanks for the info, yeah, I would like to see if there is something I need to do with the USC to get purchases working in a spin/derivative that it isn't included in.
[23:57] <aaron_samuel> Erealz: i dont think there is a best i like wutorrent
[23:57] <Yago> brightspark, like make it wait 5 seconds instead of 10...
[23:58] <Jordan_U> Yago: That question is better posed to ##windows. If they say "you need to install software X then do Y" we can help you with installing software X in Ubuntu, but the "then do Y" is off topic for this channel.
[23:58] <alecjw> aaron_samuel: i think my control panel's a bit different to the one you're describing. perhaps because mine's the british version? i can choose auto expunge on or off
[23:58] <peay> jagginess: I found this which might be what i need http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man4/synaptics.4.html
[23:58] <ShinyObjects> Erealz: I like transmission's web interface pretty well
[23:58] <Erealz> no gui
[23:58] <Erealz> ubuntu server
[23:58] <Erealz> running apache
[23:58] <Erealz> or lamp
[23:58] <Yago> Jordan_U, is there a way you can do it in ubuntu?
[23:58] <Erealz> just need the best one
[23:58] <brightspark> Yago, you don't need to edit Windows' bootloader to do that, just GRUB, if I understand what you want to do.
[23:58] <ShinyObjects> Erealz: gotcha - transmission would require a bunch of GTK stuff you don't need
[23:58] <Jordan_U> Yago: I have no idea.
[23:58] <MonkeyDust> !best| Erealz
[23:58] <c_smith> so, does anyone here know if there is some separate package or something the USC needs to have purchases working?
[23:59] <sarsaeol> Erealz: btpd or rtorrent?
[23:59] <aaron_samuel> alecjw: possibly - im using the new view, mines is set to on for you there should also be another setting 'When a message is marked as deleted and expunged from the last visible IMAP folder:' or similar that defaults to archive message but you can select immediately delete the message forever as an option
[23:59] <motherbrain> well bluemon is a good program but not quite what I am looking for
[23:59] <Erealz> saraeol do they have a webfronend?
[23:59] <sarsaeol> Erealz: srry for frontend you may want urtorrent
[23:59] <Yago> brightspark, I installed wubi, and it uses windows bootloader... I totally forgot what grub does again
[23:59] <brightspark> Yago, you want it to automatically boot into Windows faster by shortening the time during which you can tell it you want to boot windows right?
[23:59] <ShinyObjects> Erealz: I know rtorrent is text-mode, and it looks like there's a web interface here: http://rtwi.jmk.hu/