| surgemcgee | =8> | 00:41 |
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| surgemcgee | just checking.. and streching my legs. | 00:41 |
| m_3 | SpamapS: ^^ (quantal branches) I couldn't push to quantal branches either... bzr: ERROR: Permission denied: "~mark-mims/charms/quantal/junk/trunk/": : No such distribution series: 'quantal'. | 00:56 |
| m_3 | adam_g: give that another try when you get a chance | 01:08 |
| m_3 | SpamapS: please double-check https://launchpad.net/charms/quantal when you get a chance | 01:09 |
| adam_g | m_3: looks like it works now. :) | 01:09 |
| m_3 | adam_g: cool thanks | 01:09 |
| m_3 | we hadn't actually created a distro series for quantal yet | 01:10 |
| imbrandon | m_3: you catch my note about the github svn + bzr svn interface ? | 01:41 |
| m_3 | imbrandon: yup... I'd have to try it out | 01:42 |
| imbrandon | cool cool ,me too, i just tried it enought to see if it was r/o or r/w | 01:43 |
| imbrandon | once i seen it was r/w i was hmmmm i bet the bzr-svn and git-svn tools are much more mature :) | 01:44 |
| imbrandon | but its just for $sometime | 01:44 |
| m_3 | cool | 01:49 |
| m_3 | yeah, that's a great idea if we keep up the gitpad mirror | 01:49 |
| imbrandon | yea and the url is the same as the git https one except it drops the .git from the end | 01:50 |
| imbrandon | for co etc | 01:50 |
| * zooko looks at https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/write-charm.html | 03:11 | |
| zooko | "Assuming the current directory is the juju trunk" | 03:33 |
| zooko | Hm... does that mean I need to check out some repository first? | 03:34 |
| zooko | Perhaps https://code.launchpad.net/charms | 03:34 |
| marcoceppi | zooko: You don't need to checkout any repositories to start writing charms | 03:35 |
| marcoceppi | That tutorial is a little...out of date. | 03:35 |
| zooko | Where should I start? | 03:36 |
| marcoceppi | Well, it's not that bad actually | 03:36 |
| zooko | Should I go ahead and check out https://code.launchpad.net/charms? | 03:37 |
| marcoceppi | that wording is just a little confusing, it's supposed to be charm trunk, so for instance you want to create a directory like ~/charms then inside that directory create the series directory, (precise), then the name of the charm. | 03:37 |
| marcoceppi | so, pretty much if you're making a "foo" charm, mkdir -p ~/charms/precise/foo | 03:38 |
| zooko | Ok. | 03:39 |
| zooko | :-) | 03:39 |
| zooko | Thanks. | 03:39 |
| zooko | marcoceppi: what's an example of a good README I should emulate? | 03:41 |
| marcoceppi | zooko: there are a few, you can take a look at http://jujucharms.com/charms/precise/hadoop | 03:45 |
| surgemcgee | Ohh, ohh, me me! | 03:46 |
| zooko | surgemcgee: you you what? You wrote a good README? :-) | 03:52 |
| zooko | Should I list Python as a "requires" for Tahoe-LAFS? | 04:17 |
| zooko | And I wonder if I should "provide" anything? | 04:18 |
| surgemcgee | zooko: I am pretty sure, it is here in my branch --> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~robertsteckroth/charms/precise/django-rainbow/trunk/files | 04:31 |
| zooko | Having written his README, zooko returns to https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/write-charm.html | 04:58 |
| zooko | Errrrmm... now I get to choose bash or Python for my intall script. | 04:59 |
| zooko | Hm,. | 04:59 |
| zooko | Well, that was easy. | 05:00 |
| zooko | http://codepad.org/hy5Hh7BI | 05:01 |
| zooko | Hm, I don't understand in which script I should do the creation of the state. | 05:24 |
| zooko | Time for some sleep anyway. | 05:24 |
| koolhead17 | zooko: gn :) | 05:25 |
| zooko | :-) | 05:43 |
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| lynxman | jcastro: roger that :) | 11:08 |
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| jcastro | http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4069164 | 15:58 |
| jcastro | woo! | 15:58 |
| jcastro | Here's what m_3's been working on for a day or so | 15:58 |
| jcastro | well, the post was only that long, the rest was a bunch of hard work. :) | 15:58 |
| negronjl | 'morning all | 15:59 |
| hazmat | negronjl, g'mroning | 16:02 |
| negronjl | 'morning hazmat | 16:02 |
| hazmat | just noticing its rather silly to distinguish tcp/udp in open/close port | 16:02 |
| jcastro | Only 3 upvotes, come on people, we need to get on the front page to share this with the world! http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4069164 | 16:12 |
| mramm | Up to 7 upvotes now, but could use a few more;) http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4069164 | 16:21 |
| negronjl | jcastro: how do you vote ? | 16:22 |
| jcastro | sign up | 16:22 |
| jcastro | and then click the little arrow to the left of the title | 16:22 |
| m_3 | negronjl: btw, please check the article for stupidity :) | 16:23 |
| negronjl | m_3: I will ... but I doubt I will find any :) | 16:23 |
| jimbaker | i rather liked the article (which i upvoted), it gives great insight into why this was an interesting if preliminary experiment | 16:31 |
| m_3 | jimbaker: thanks... yeah, I think it's a good story | 16:32 |
| m_3 | and the results are pretty much expected | 16:32 |
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| lynxman | jcastro: hey, I had on my calendar charm review on Thursday, was it moved? | 17:10 |
| jcastro | you're the only one this week, so however you want to slice it is fine | 17:10 |
| jcastro | I don't think anyone moved it | 17:10 |
| lynxman | jcastro: k :) | 17:10 |
| lynxman | jcastro: any official guide for review or just go with my gut? | 17:10 |
| lynxman | (just in case) | 17:11 |
| jcastro | https://juju.ubuntu.com/Charms | 17:11 |
| jcastro | yeah | 17:11 |
| jcastro | look in "Reviewers" | 17:11 |
| lynxman | jcastro: lovely, thanks :9 | 17:11 |
| jcastro | marcoceppi: wotcha up to right now | 18:14 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: sitting through a boring meeting, what's up? | 18:15 |
| jcastro | spdy is default in firefox13 | 18:15 |
| marcoceppi | booooya | 18:15 |
| jcastro | clint's charm is basically done, I think it needs a review and promulgation? | 18:15 |
| marcoceppi | I'll take a look | 18:16 |
| jcastro | maybe we can whine to ben to fix that subordinate opening a port bug | 18:16 |
| _mup_ | Bug #1009221 was filed: Adds format: 2 support to juju, while maintaining backwards compatibility for old charms. <juju:In Progress by jimbaker> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1009221 > | 21:10 |
| RaptorsAtatck | heya, so first off juju is awesome(yeah you guys already know). I'm looking at a way to manage what charms are installed on systems and see network diagrams. I was considering using mcollective for this but it seems like something that would be already solved by someone else. Any ideas? | 22:33 |
| james_w | RaptorsAtatck, "juju status --format=dot" might interest you | 22:35 |
| james_w | I'm not sure what you mean by "what charms are installed on systems" though | 22:35 |
| RaptorsAtatck | @its the services/units bit that juju already handles | 22:36 |
| RaptorsAtatck | so never mind on that part ;) | 22:36 |
| james_w | ok :-) | 22:36 |
| RaptorsAtatck | reading into the docs while trying to poke holes | 22:36 |
| james_w | the status output will draw a graph of the services/units you have and the relations between them | 22:37 |
| RaptorsAtatck | gah love the relationship hooks. | 22:41 |
| RaptorsAtatck | configuration management has been a pain, even with puppet. | 22:41 |
| RaptorsAtatck | hey so I have an environment deployed and configured how I want it with the appropriate relationships. Is there a way to take a snapshot of this and deploy a mirror of this to a new environment? | 23:02 |
| surgemcgee | A simple bash script can do that, no need to go higher than juju already is. | 23:07 |
| RaptorsAtatck | yeah, but maintaining that will suck | 23:09 |
| RaptorsAtatck | So, going to make a simple script that will take the output of the status and rebuild that in the selected environment | 23:10 |
| RaptorsAtatck | then I can just check status outputs in when I'm happy with how they look | 23:10 |
| RaptorsAtatck | oh man can take that idea/concept alot farther. | 23:12 |
| surgemcgee | Not on a professional/production level | 23:13 |
| surgemcgee | Although, destoyed my environment like 20 times (don't tell amazon. ha). | 23:13 |
| zooko | If somebody else will pay for the EC2 fees, I'll measure how Tahoe-LAFS behaves with 5000 servers and write a blog post about it. :-) | 23:14 |
| RaptorsAtatck | well its actually for managing private clouds | 23:14 |
| RaptorsAtatck | a common issue I've ran into is developers needing complex environments setup | 23:15 |
| RaptorsAtatck | so we normally make a VM image w/ puppet/mcollective and then update those as needed | 23:15 |
| RaptorsAtatck | huge pain in the ass when the developers change things | 23:15 |
| RaptorsAtatck | this way we can keep a snapshot of what a developer environment looks like and just execute that as needed | 23:16 |
| RaptorsAtatck | (the developer that is) | 23:16 |
| surgemcgee | Sounds like high level software development. Most web projects can easly re-configure and deploy to some user friendly cloud like use app engine. | 23:18 |
| RaptorsAtatck | yeah, many people on the project ;) | 23:23 |
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