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jfloanybody have anything good to say about kubuntu 12.100:30
Belial`12.10? i don't think it's much different from 12.04 at this point.00:31
robotdevildoes this work for anyone here    http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/?content=14706500:39
almoxariferobotdevil, yes it does for me00:40
almoxariferobotdevil, its a bit of overkill but better to have options than not00:41
robotdevilalmoxarife: what versions are you running, and what else did you have to enable or install to make it work00:41
robotdevilalmoxarife: all I did was dl it from the dolphin serices page00:42
Belial`i don't know why, but kde-look has been randomly broke for the longest time.00:42
Belial`sometimes it'll work, sometimes it won't.00:42
Belial`gnome-look almost never works.00:42
Belial`is there something going on with their servers?00:43
almoxariferobotdevil, kde 4.8.3 on maya/precise00:43
almoxarifeSystem:    Host mint-Satellite-L555 Kernel 3.4.0-3-generic x86_64 (64 bit)00:44
almoxarife           Desktop KDE 4.8.3 Distro Linux Mint 13 Maya00:44
robotdevili see00:44
robotdevilI using 12.04 4.8.3.00:44
almoxarifesame thing then robotdevil00:45
robotdevilyes I know, didnt think the kde mint 13 was out yet00:46
robotdevilwonder what im doing wrong00:46
almoxariferobotdevil, sort of is not00:46
almoxariferobotdevil, maya-kde repo is not populated yet00:47
robotdevili see00:47
almoxarifeis kubuntu channel officially open to any kde version?00:48
robotdevilalmoxarife: I would think it is to versions included in recent distributions. Ones that havent reached EOL.00:53
robotdevilor #kde00:53
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robotdevilwhats the app to calculate the mouse button mapping01:24
robotdevilwant to try to and get dolphins back and forth buttons to work01:25
sunitasethi?03:00
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fastaWhen I visit a directory in Dolphin which has a symbolic link to a NFS shared directory which is offline, then it just tries to load it forever, without showing any of the other folders. Why aren't these independent things?07:07
robotdevilhttp://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/29677/07:25
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OxymoronHi, I wonder is it hard to write your own script that automaticly switch to HDMI video and audio output when connect HDMI port and then switch back to regular audio output and video when unplug HDMI?09:51
ikoniaOxymoron: it's quite simple to do, but requires a reasonable ammount of effort too09:54
ikoniaOxymoron: it's based around looking for events and then (depending on your video card and setup) giving the appropritate xorg commands to change displays09:55
ikoniaI used to have a script that detected a docking station for my laptop, and if it was there it would resize the screen to the main display as a second screen, and if not don't do anything09:55
Oxymoronikonia: Some kind of bash script or?09:55
ikoniaa lot of that is now uneeded as xorg id dynamic, and detects things on the fly09:55
ikoniaa bash script is fine09:55
Oxymoronikonia: I thin its weird its not built in KDE though, that Xorg does it by itself. I though understand audio problem.09:56
ikoniaxorg doesn't do it by it's self09:56
Oxymoronikonia: Anyway, is bahs script the best or something else better?09:56
ikoniaa bash script is fine09:57
ikoniathat's how I used to do my docking station09:57
ikoniaI've done similar things with hdmi before but more for detection at start up, rather than on the fly for my emmulator machine depeind on which TV it was plugged into09:58
ikoniaso it's quite straight forward to do, it just requires a little time and effort to work out the best way to manage it and do the switch09:58
Oxymoronikonia: Why is it not trivial todo? What is the problems of it?09:58
OxymoronSounds like *buntu does not save device settings. So when HDMI disappear it do not longer know about it.09:59
ikoniaOxymoron: this is nothing to do with ubuntu09:59
ikoniaOxymoron: I'll tell you one last time as this is getting very old with you09:59
ikoniaOxymoron: if you cannot stop blaming "ubunut" for either the limitations of you as a user, or Linux in general, you will not be allowed to participate in the channel.10:00
ikoniaOxymoron: it is "trivial" to do, as I've just said, however it requires a little bit of thought to work out the best way to do it for your setup10:00
Oxymoronikonia: I found this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/773138/ script, does it looks decent do you think? :)10:02
ikoniaI'm not interested10:03
ikoniait's up to you10:03
ikoniayou're attitude is not one that inspires me to help you10:03
ikoniaas I said you need to do something that's specific to your environment10:04
ikonianot just copy someone elses10:04
OxymoronSure be that way, I am used to it by debians anyway.10:04
ikoniathat's the part I said put thought into10:04
ikoniaOxymoron: if you are used to it - it's because your attitude is frustrating10:05
OxymoronNo its the way debians are, not how I am.10:05
ikoniaOxymoron: it's really not10:05
ikoniaas you can see people try to help you10:05
ikoniabut it's very hard to help when you are blaming things with no reason and turn out to be wrong10:06
ikoniait doesn't inspire people to help10:06
ikoniathat is "you" not debian10:06
Oxymoronikonia: It is same attitude no matter if I want help or not, arguing or not and not saying anything and just read how people answer newcomes to channel.10:06
ikoniapeople/I will be more than happy to help you, if you just explain your problem and work it through, without the repeated attempts to try to find fault10:06
ikoniaOxymoron: you join the channel and constantly try to find fault with the distro you are using rather than it being a user error or a limitation of linux10:07
ikoniait's not something people get inspired by10:07
ikoniaof course if there is a problem with the distro then people will get inspired to help you and get a bug logged/fixed10:07
lordievaderPerhaps this discussion is more suited for the offtopic channel, doesn't have much to do with kubuntu help...10:07
OxymoronI really do not get inspired by have to do it either. It is not that I like to ask for help.10:07
ikoniaOxymoron: asking for help / blaming ubuntu are two different things10:08
ikoniaOxymoron: "hi, I'm having a problem with my user no longer being able do sudo" = good10:08
ikoniaOxymoron: "hi, ubuntu has broke my sudoers file, it's blank and nothing works, why does ubuntu always break things" = bad10:08
ikoniamore so when it turns out the second statement is nonsnese10:08
ikoniaasking for help is great, having a blind rant/blame session to get help, doens't10:09
ikoniajust state your problem and the issue you are having and people will help10:09
ikoniaI was happy to help you with your script, until you staterd moaning that kubuntu should have this already10:09
ikoniasee the difference ?10:09
Oxymoronikonia: I do not think it would make any difference. but yes I see the difference.10:10
ikoniaOxymoron: it does make a difference10:10
almoxarifei tried building dragon player from source, did build and installed it, tried a mp4 and it would not run, did work with mp3, tried installing same from repos, same issue with mp4's, what codec might i be missing, the mp4's played on kmplayer fine10:10
ikoniathats why you are getting the reponses you get from the debian channels10:10
OxymoronIn the end the result of helping would result in arguing anyway.10:10
ikoniaOxymoron: I assure you it doesn't, many people get help without arguing, you don't, so that suggests the fault is with you10:10
lordievaderalmoxarife: Try kubuntu-restricted, I might be wrong with the package name, it was something like that.10:10
ikoniaalmoxarife: one second, let me just grasp what you are aying10:11
ikoniasaying10:11
lordievaderalmoxarife: Let me check it out.10:11
almoxarifelordievader, i have it installed10:11
Oxymoronikonia: Tried different approaches and I get same response neverhteless, its ergot attitudes always.10:11
ikoniaalmoxarife: run "file" against the mp4 you are trying to work10:11
almoxarifelordievader, its not that :) too easy10:11
ikoniaOxymoron: I've never seen you try anything other than complaining in the ubuntu channels10:11
ikoniaOxymoron: hence why I've just given you a final warning about it10:11
almoxarifeikonia, i am not understanding you? pls explain10:12
ikoniaalmoxarife: the mp4 file you want to play run the command "file" against it10:12
Oxymoronikonia: I bet you havent read everything I typed in *buntu channels.10:12
ikoniaalmoxarife: eg: file my.mp410:12
almoxarifeok10:12
ikoniaOxymoron: only stuff while I've been active, however I've explained the issue, given you a final warning on it, it's up to you how you move on from here10:12
almoxarifeHeavy Sea.mp4: ISO Media, MPEG v4 system, version 2 <-- ikonia, something off of youtube10:14
ikoniaalmoxarife: iso media ?10:14
ikonianever seen that before10:14
ikoniaalmoxarife: the codec is mpeg v4 though10:14
ikoniaso you need your player to be aware of/linked against mpeg10:14
Oxymoronikonia: I do not say its good attitude certainly not, but why would it matter if you add some extra irritation on bugs and earlier experience of things in Kubuntu for instance? Okay it does not sound good, but why would it matter in the end? I am uncertain if I understand it.10:15
almoxarifeikonia, you mean during build?10:15
ikoniaOxymoron: it's up to you how you move on, people don't help people who are moaning/complaining WRONGLY as you often do, people help people who want help, explain their problem.10:16
ikoniaOxymoron: you've had the info/warning - it's up to you how you proceed10:16
ikoniaalmoxarife: either durining or post10:16
ikoniaalmoxarife: most players can load codecs after they are built10:16
ikoniaalmoxarife: some require it at build time10:16
almoxarifeikonia, i dont see see anything of a config for postbuild, this is the 4.8 dragon10:17
lordievaderalmoxarife: You could also use vlc to play the file, that player got build in codecs, so no need to worry about codecs :)10:17
almoxarifelordievader, that would be easy, i can run it already in kmplayer10:17
Oxymoronikonia: Where to go then to complain about all *bunt issues? Is there any channel for it or website where I can put all my bugs and complains?10:18
lordievaderalmoxarife: So why not use that? Is there a special reason you need to use dragon?10:18
Oxymoronikonia: and of course a place where people listen on critics, not ignore it.10:18
almoxarifelordievader, yes, because it is there! and its kde and i enjoy the challenge and ........blah blah, learn something10:19
lordievaderOxymoron: Ranting and critique are two different things, ranting is usually not helpful.10:19
lordievaderalmoxarife: I see, yes well try to find the codec, install it and hope for the best.10:19
Oxymoronlordievader: Usually the same, but sure I understand.10:20
lordievaderalmoxarife: Have you read this: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?54945-Dragon-Player-movie-player-mp4-files10:21
lordievaderOxymoron: No they are not.10:21
almoxarifelordievader, have not, will, thnks10:21
lordievaderHope it gets you anywhere.10:21
OxymoronUsually it goes into ranting because I am experience same problem over and over again. That means one thing works, then someone break it and not work, then fix, then break again etc. And break doesnt mean by me, I am meaning official bugs.10:21
ikoniaOxymoron: no-one ignores your critique10:21
ikoniaOxymoron: the problem is your critique is wrong10:21
Oxymoronikonia: How to make it right? :)10:22
ikoniaOxymoron: eg: "ubuntu's deleted my sudoers file" - no, it' hasn't10:22
ikoniaOxymoron: stop complaining10:22
ikoniaOxymoron: just tell people your issues and they will resolve them10:22
ikoniathere is no need for the additional comments, more so when you don't actually know/understand what you are saying and just annoy people with it10:22
ikonia"someone" doesn't break it, most of the issues you've had have been user error10:22
ikoniaso the only person who breaks it is you10:22
Oxymoronikonia: Lets say I want to get help with sudoers file gone, how to say it and add critique that it should not be able to happen?10:22
ikoniathe sudoers file was not gone, that was the problem10:23
ikoniayou where telling people it was blank to try to create a fuss10:23
ikoniait wasn't10:23
ikoniayou had just removed your user from the admin group10:23
ikoniasimple10:23
ikoniaif you just say10:23
ikonia"my user can no longer sudo, any help ?"10:23
FloodBotK1ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:23
Oxymoronikonia: For isntance there is official there have been issues with pulseaudio many years, someitmes it works and sometimes not. Now it is integrated into ubuntu. In that case I am not responsible of breaking pulseaudio.10:24
ikoniasomeone will walk you through a few quick trouble shooting steps as I did, and it's resolved, bang, you're done10:24
ikoniaOxymoron: if there is an official bug in pulse audo that has not been fixed, then it's not ubuntu's problem, it's pulseaudio's so you need to log a bug with pulseaudio for the fix to filter down into ubuntu10:24
ikoniaOxymoron: logged a bug means explaining the problem "factually" not what you think, but factually10:25
Oxymoronikonia: And If I said "my user cannot longer sudo, how can that happen if the user are admin"? Is that wrong?10:25
ikoniaOxymoron: sure, that's fine, then we do more trouble shooting and find out why it can't do it10:25
ikoniaOxymoron: but in that example the user wasn't in the admin group10:25
ikoniaso it was a simple 2 minute fix, that you made last 30 minutes by making things up like "my sudoers file is blank, someone changd it"10:25
Oxymoronikonia: It is a ubuntu problem if its integrated, even if pulseaudio have their own devs. But yes I understand.10:25
ikoniano they didn't, no-one changed it and we wasted time10:26
ikoniaOxymoron: it's not an ubuntu problem, ubuntu doesn't make pulseaudio, they don't maintain it, they "use it"10:26
ikoniaOxymoron: if there is a known problem with pulse audio, ubuntu can't fix it, they don't maintain it, pulse audio can, and once it's fixed the fix will appear in the ubuntu build10:26
Oxymoronikonia: Use it, inherit it make it a ubuntu user problem if pulseuadio fails.10:26
ikoniaOxymoron: no10:27
ikoniaOxymoron: how can that be ?10:27
lordievaderSeriously what does this have to do with kubuntu, go to offtopic. This channel is for helping ppl!!!10:27
ikonialordievader: I'm explaining someone how to use the channel and get help10:27
ikoniaOxymoron: this channel deals with kubuntu issues, that means problems with ubuntu's packages, software, setup, configs etc etc. If there is a known problem with pulse audio as you said that has a bug logged against it, ubuntu can't fix that, the pulse audio team should fix that10:28
lordievaderikonia: I know. But still, this is kind of flooding the channel. Scares ppl away...10:28
Oxymoronikonia: Because if pulseaudio fails, than ubuntu end user need audio will ask for help in ubuntu usually as most people do not know what pulseaudio is.10:28
ikoniaOxymoron: right, so you explain "I'm having a problem with pulse audio", we work out that it's a bug, point you to the pulseaudio team, and explain to log a bug10:28
ikoniaOxymoron: irc can't fix everything real time10:28
almoxarifeOxymoron, kde runs fine without pulseaudio, i dont use it10:29
ikoniathere you go10:29
ikoniaI'll be back later10:29
lordievaderOxymoron: And it also runs fine with, got three boxes here running fine with PA.10:29
Oxymoronalmoxarife: I tried to remove pulseaudio without success.10:30
almoxarifeOxymoron, sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio10:30
Oxymoronlordievader: At the moment yes ;) My statement was that it has been breaked and fixed back and forth between PA releases of pulseuadio.10:30
almoxarifeOxymoron, that easy10:30
Oxymoronalmoxarife: Well yeah if I do not want any sound at all I can do that, I tried. Need it for my Intel sound and HDMI.10:31
almoxarifeOxymoron, on kde only, not so good to remove from the gnomish systems10:31
lordievaderOxymoron: That would be an excelent question, "I don't like PA, how do I remove it?"10:31
lordievaderalmoxarife: Gnome systems don't have a fallback, do they?10:31
almoxarifeOxymoron, not true, running xbmc alsa hdmi nvidia minus the pulseaudio10:31
Oxymoronalmoxarife: Do you have a Intel audio integrated circuit?10:32
almoxarifelordievader, i think pulse is builtin to gnome like an octupus's tentacles10:32
almoxarifeOxymoron, xkuze plz, i no want to argue with you, ignore me10:33
lordievaderalmoxarife: Yeah, I remember the times that PA was new, got what a disaster it was then.10:33
almoxarifelordievader, i found one issue after removing PA from kde, alsa sucks for streaming radio coming out of suspend, did not want to return pa, found that direct did swimmingly, problem solved and PA free10:35
OxymoronAnyway tried to purge PA but unfortunatly it broke my audio.10:35
lordievaderalmoxarife: I kind of like PA now, it enables more than one app to use the soundcard.10:36
almoxarifeOxymoron, and the answer is yes, intel all on the lappy10:36
almoxarifeSystem:    Host mint-Satellite-L555 Kernel 3.4.0-3-generic x86_64 (64 bit)10:37
almoxarife           Desktop KDE 4.8.3 Distro Linux Mint 13 Maya10:37
almoxarifeooopsy, mint :)10:37
Oxymoronalmoxarife: How did you make it work? :) did you just do aptget purge pulseaudio?10:37
almoxarifeOxymoron, that is the only way i know, purge 'pulseaudio' , nothing else needed10:38
Oxymoronalmoxarife: Okay cool :) Try that next time PA do not work again ;)10:38
almoxarifeOxymoron, on kde, dont do it on gnome10:38
Oxymoronalmoxarife: Yes I only use KDE.10:38
almoxarifei think gnome falls to pieces without PA, the poor thing10:39
almoxarifekde 4.8 is out10:39
almoxarifekde 4.9 xkuze plz10:40
Oxymoronalmoxarife: Btw, do you know if PA can automaticly switch audio channels between intel analog stereo and digital HDMI?10:40
lordievaderalmoxarife: Is 4.9 already in the repos?10:40
almoxarifelordievader, no, source though is out, i think the gento ppl may have it in their pckg system10:42
lordievaderalmoxarife: Oh well I can wait ;)10:42
almoxarifeOxymoron, the switching is done at the app in my case, xbmc, but in kde you can choose what the hardware profile is just as well10:43
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Oxymoronalmoxarife: I tried to find out in Phonon system settings. But I do not understand, how to change hardware profile to autoswitch audio when HDMI plugged or not?10:44
lordievaderSorry, wrong window.10:44
Oxymoronalmoxarife: Xbmc you say :) Do you know if it is possible to make mediabox of a Linux laptop or similar and remotely wireless stream audio and video to a TV?10:45
almoxarifeOxymoron, the profile will basically act like a switch, set to analog and it comes out via rca connector, set to hdmi and it outputs to the hdmi, at least thats how my hdmi-combo card works10:45
Oxymoronalmoxarife: For the moment I can manually switch between analog stereo and digital hdmi output in profile. But I do not understand how to make auto switch between them.10:47
almoxarifeOxymoron, i just installed xbmc on the lappy too, much simpler than the other setups, and i already have the userdata from the HTC server10:47
almoxarifeOxymoron, auto? in what sense?10:48
Oxymoronalmoxarife: What I am looking for is a solution to get rid of HDMi cable once and for all between TV and laptop ... There is some wireless HDMI solutions, but usually expensive and not worth it. Also tried mediastreamer tvix, but problem unfortunatly.10:48
Oxymoronalmoxarife: Auto in sense that when I plugin HDMI cable system automaticly switch from analog to digital HDMI and when unplug HDMI cable switch back again.10:49
almoxarifeOxymoron, something as to be intermediary, a rasberry-pi? that what its called? the ps3?10:50
almoxarifegot an xbox? ps3?10:51
almoxarifeOxymoron, ?10:51
Oxymoronalmoxarife: Rather not intermediary either. I would like stream wireless directly between computer and TV without any extra devices or cables at all.10:51
Oxymoronalmoxarife: Yes I hav xbox 36010:52
almoxarifeyour tv can act as a media server?10:52
almoxarifeOxymoron, ?10:53
Oxymoronalmoxarife: I do not know if it can. Doesnt that require a smartTV?10:53
almoxarifeOxymoron, no, it just as to have the capability to see a media server squawking in upnp or dla? dln? forget which it is called10:54
almoxarifeuse the xbox as the as a client for the media server10:54
Oxymoronalmoxarife: DLNA?10:55
almoxarifethats it Oxymoron10:55
OxymoronI read Samsung shall have DLNA support on their TVs but some have problem to use it googles says :P10:55
AvihayI think mythTV accepts an X-Box as a media streamer or "media extender"10:56
Oxymoronalmoxarife: I know I can plugin external Hdd to it and it can scan it and play video files directly.10:56
almoxarifeOxymoron, thats one option10:57
OxymoronI have a tvix which is a mediastreamer. But my experience is that long bootup time, also on Xbox etc. I am looking for a solution, where I simply start TV, change channel, start movie on laptop and voila video and audio streams without any settings or start any intermediary device.10:57
almoxarifeAvihay, xbox also does well with xbmc10:57
OxymoronWith an intermediary device you need HDMi cable from it to TV.10:58
almoxarifeOxymoron, correct10:58
Oxymoronalmoxarife: One thing I unfrtoantly do not like is that xbox 360 Slim sounds like a jet engine when turned on because of the fans :P10:58
Avihayalmoxarife: you mean using it as an output device instead of the screen?10:58
almoxarifeyou have the xbox, Oxymoron, xbmc to the xbox?10:58
Avihayinstead of the computer's screen*10:59
almoxarifeAvihay, i didnt understand your last10:59
Oxymoronalmoxarife: Yes, would work :) Xbox will play the media then?10:59
almoxarifeOxymoron, yeap, serve up xbmc11:00
Oxymoronand xbox, will it just redirect media stream from xbmc to tv?11:00
almoxarifeOxymoron, yeap11:00
Oxymoronalmoxarife: And if my TV supports DLNA, how to make it work, do you know?11:01
almoxarifeOxymoron, xbmc is just an app, a server, it will stream to anything dnla upnp, networked11:01
almoxarifeOxymoron, the issue is xbmc seeing xbmc server, xbox is already connected to the tube11:02
Oxymoronalmoxarife: yeah i know :) XBMC is nice. Problem is that I have not been able to use it on any device earlier.11:02
almoxarifeOxymoron, the issue is xbox seeing xbmc server, xbox is already connected to the tube11:03
Oxymoronalmoxarife: what do you mean?11:03
almoxarifeOxymoron, xbmc > network > xbox >hdmi > tv11:04
almoxarifeOxymoron, xbmc > network > xbox(network connects to xbmc) >hdmi > tv11:05
almoxarifeneed to go figure out dragon player, see ya11:06
Oxymoronalmoxarife: Alright hehe :P11:07
almoxarifelordievader, took your advice, switched phonon to vlc backend, mp4 work now, thks11:19
pedorhi, how do i search kde-look from system settings? I only can search opendesktop.org11:19
pedoror search kubuntu-art?11:20
lethupedor, what do you mean by searching kde-look ?11:28
pedorlethu: in system settings I can search for a new icon set, right? but it only gaves opendesktop.org results11:29
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lethupedor, you mean after you click on "Get neww themes" ?11:30
pedorlethu: yes11:30
lethus/neww/new11:30
lethupedor, I don't believe it's possible to search kde-look themes from the system settings, you have to manually download the themes from kde-look then install them via the "Install Theme File..." button11:32
shlomif-rsipHi all. I am trying to use OpenGL as the KDE (4.8.3) desktop effects backend on Ubuntu 12.04 and it doesn't work. I noticed my OpenGL Vendor ID is "VMware Inc." - is this normal?11:34
pedorlethu: I found a screenshot which seems to be possible:http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kde-workspace/kcontrol/splashscreen/get-new-theme.png11:34
lordievadershlomif-rsip: You seem to be using vmware, have you enabled the 3d accelaration?11:35
shlomif-rsiplordievader, I am not using VMware - this is a live machine.11:36
lethupedor, wait, let me check something11:36
lordievadershlomif-rsip: Do you mean with a live machine a box running a live-cd?11:36
shlomif-rsiplordievader, no, I mean it is a physical computer. Not a Virtual Machine (VMware or otherwise).11:37
pedorok11:37
lordievadershlomif-rsip: Ah ok.11:37
lethupedor, sorry couldn't find a way to achieve what is in that screenshot11:39
lethupedor, somebody else may be more suited to help you with this11:39
lordievadershlomif-rsip: What do you get when you run: sudo lspci -v|grep VGA11:40
lordievaderpedor: What is your problem?11:40
pedorlethu: ok, thanks11:40
lethupedor, np11:40
shlomif-rsiplordievader, I am getting \01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Turks [Radeon HD 6570] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])11:40
lordievadershlomif-rsip: Ok, so you got a ATI gfx card, have you installed the driver for it?11:41
pedorlordievader: hi, how I add kde-look.org to system setting? I'm trying to add a new icon set but when I go to search new theme it only shows opendesktop.org results11:42
lordievaderpedor: Hmm I'm not sure, manual install is not an option?11:42
pedorlordievader: it could be, I'm just tyring the easy way11:43
shlomif-rsiplordievader: the driver is installed.11:43
pedorI had kubuntu installed after ubuntu, and it worked, now that I installed only ubuntu it's not working11:44
lordievadershlomif-rsip: So fglrxinfo gives vmware with the opengl? (Assuming you installed the proprietary driver)11:45
lordievaderpedor: I'd say manual install is easier, I've had it happen quite often that the gui would say that it was installed but nothing was installed.11:46
shlomif-rsiplordievader: I am using the FOSS radeon driver.11:46
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shlomif-rsiplordievader: This is my Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1024892/ .11:47
pedorlordievader: hm, ok, thanks. now I need to figereout how to install them, lol11:48
lordievadershlomif-rsip: Do you mind installing the proprietary driver? I believe it has better support for OpenGL than the open-source radeon drivers (might be wrong though)11:49
shlomif-rsiplordievader: that's not my problem.11:50
shlomif-rsipMy problem is that X does not use the radeon driver in the first place.11:50
lordievadershlomif-rsip: Ah I see, sorry.11:50
shlomif-rsiplordievader: working now.11:55
shlomif-rsiplordievader: thanks.11:55
lordievadershlomif-rsip: Oh hey, what did you do?11:56
shlomif-rsiplordievader: I booted with the standard mode - not the rescue mode.11:56
shlomif-rsipKMS is disabled in rescue mode.11:56
lordievaderAh that explains it.11:57
shlomif-rsipPreviously, I was unable to boot using the non-rescue mode.11:57
shlomif-rsipSo now OpenGL works fine.11:57
lordievadershlomif-rsip: That is good :)11:57
rindolfHi all.12:23
* rindolf is also shlomif-rsip 12:23
lordievadershlomif-rsip: Welcome back.12:26
rindolflordievader: here my nickname is rindolf.12:27
lordievaderrindolf: I see.12:28
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rindolflordievader: now I have a problem that on the Kubuntu machine, KWin keeps crashing when I move wobbly windows.12:42
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rindolflordievader: extreme tuxracer also crashes.12:42
lordievaderrindolf: Try running tuxracer from a terminal, might give you a hint what the problem is.12:44
rindolflordievader: I did.12:44
rindolflordievader: I get "Segmentation Fault'. I can try inside gdb.12:44
lordievaderrindolf: I still sugest installing the proprietary drivers, as they have better support for OpenGL, you could try to set the kwin to xrender. It will use your cpu instead of gpu. If then it doesn't crash it is probably the driver.12:47
BluesKajhi all13:19
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wcshi folks14:27
wcsi'm having an issue with gtk oxygen on precise14:28
wcsi have already installed kde-config-gtk, but can't make it work...14:30
wcsgtk3 apps uses ambiance theme, but gtk2 apps looks completely square...14:32
wcsI will apreciate any help n_n14:32
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artaowhoa!! o.0 ... i just accidentally hit <win><tab> and it did something funky here. firefox disappeared and the desktop background went back to default15:37
artaoquassel stayed visible, but that's it15:38
artaohitting the same key-combo again put it back15:38
artaoi changed NOTHING so that means it's default Kubuntu behaviour ... .... what the HECK is it??? o.015:38
BluesKajartao, it's not default behaviour here15:45
lordievaderGood afternoon15:59
NeuhmaanHi !16:06
NeuhmaanSorry but my English is not very well, but how get KDE 4.9 on Ubuntu ?16:07
lordievaderNeuhmaan: Hey, I believe they are not yet in the repos, so you got two options: 1 wait for it, or 2 compile from source.16:08
Neuhmaanlordievader: But compile is too hard for me =( What I must do ?16:08
lordievaderNeuhmaan: Then you just need to wait until they are in the repos, and do an update once they have arrived.16:09
Neuhmaanlordievader: Its long ? x)16:10
lordievaderNo idea, perhaps someone else knows how quickly that goes?16:11
jussiusually pretty quick to get to the ppa16:14
dwrunkleHello.  I wonder if someone can help me get my old Nvidia FX5200 card to work in Kubuntu 12.04?16:40
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lordievaderdwrunkle: Have you installed the drivers?16:44
dwrunkleEven tried the latest version (253?) from NVidia.  Problem is:  Nvidia-Xconfig creates a dummy xorg.conf, but Nvidia-settings does not see it.  System only shows Default screen when I have two screens running.16:46
dwrunkleI am using a Gigabyte GA-880GM-USB3 motherboard and the FX5200 is in the PCI slot.16:47
lordievaderdwrunkle: But the driver does get loaded?16:47
dwrunkleYEs.  Then  driver is loaded but shows as not being used.16:48
lordievaderdwrunkle: What do you mean? Does nvidia-config complain about the driver?16:49
dwrunkleIt just shows a config screen with only the default screen and no options.16:50
lordievaderdwrunkle: Is the card even able to handle 2 screens?16:50
dwrunkleI bought it originally to use two VGA screens and it has worked fine through Kubuntu 11..04.16:51
lordievaderdwrunkle: And what did you do in 11.04 to get it working?16:52
dwrunkleBut then I upgraded the motherboard and then did a clean install of Kubuntu 12.0416:52
thgilsrooc|lthi folks16:52
dwrunkleI am now wondering if the motherboard is the problem.  Since it is a new motherboard, maybe it has some kind of "enhanced" PCI slot?16:53
lordievaderdwrunkle: But what did you do to get it working in 11.04?16:53
dwrunkleJust ran the Nvidia-xconfig and then Nvidia-settings.16:54
lordievaderdwrunkle: And how did you install the driver?16:54
dwrunkleThat is what is making me now think it is the motherboard.16:54
Renegade15is there any way to force apt or aptitude to just plain upgrade upgradable packages without paying attention to dependencies and shit?16:55
dwrunkleKubuntu 11.04 was on the old motherboard.16:55
lordievaderdwrunkle: That is not what I am asking, how did you install the driver in 11.04?16:56
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dwrunkleThe driver was installed during upgrade on 11.04.  There is the proprietary driver tool under System that will load different versions of the driver, but the latest version worked under Kubuntu 11.0416:57
lordievaderdwrunkle: Ok so you installed it through the system tool. Have you tried reinstalling the driver?16:58
dwrunkleI just chose twinview in the nvidia-settings (nvidia-config) and got the desktop across both screens.16:59
dwrunkleYes.16:59
lordievaderdwrunkle: What output do you get when you run: jockey-text -l17:00
lordievader!paste | dwrunkle17:00
ubottudwrunkle: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:00
dwrunkleAlso tried different versiona (93, 175, etc.)  All resusled in not being able to use the screen because the driver made the screen go to some aweful resolution where I could not even read the entries.  I had to remove the xorg.conf completely and reboot to get the default screen back so I can see anything.17:01
tiger1co to jest??17:02
dwrunkleAh.  Sorry.  I need to get off for now and run an errand  Will be back in am hour or two.17:02
lordievaderdwrunkle: Good luck with your problem!17:03
jhutchins_ltRenegade15: Why would you want to do that?17:08
JuJuBeeHow can I recursively remove all files in a dir tree but leave the directory structure in tact?  Anybody have a script for such a task?17:17
jhutchins_ltJuJuBee: you could use find17:19
JuJuBeeI'd like to run from command line... elaborate...17:19
Peace-JuJuBee:  wait17:20
jhutchins_ltJuJuBee: find is a console command.  (It has a man page.)17:20
jhutchins_ltJuJuBee: Have a look and see what you think would work, and we'll be glad to fill in any specific questions.17:21
Peace-find  folder path   -type f17:21
Peace-shoudl find the files17:21
Peace-while read line ; do  rm "$line" ; done < <(find  folder path   -type f)17:22
Peace-should do the job17:22
Peace-NOT SURE17:22
jhutchins_ltPeace-: Or you could just use the delete option in find.17:26
jhutchins_ltPeace-: Before that was available people either used -exec or xargs.17:27
Peace-i dunno17:27
jhutchins_ltGood tricks to learn.  I make use of find an open-ended interview question.17:29
diego_teste17:29
lordievaderGotta go17:31
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Guest83509Anyone know latest ppa's for kde 4.9 beta? Launchpad ppa's for beta kubuntu don't work17:54
CruX|hello18:00
CruX|if I change keyboard layout from qwertz to qwerty18:00
CruX|ctrl-z is not working in kate18:01
CruX|ctrl-z is ctrl-y18:01
CruX|please fix this18:01
Guest83509CruX|: you need to file a bud at launchpad.net18:01
Guest83509CruX|: bug...18:02
Guest83509CruX|: you may finally be reporting the bug at kde though18:02
Guest83509CruX|: check you setting area to see if you can't modifyt he keyboard setup.  maybe you have abad profile match to your brand of keyboard?18:03
Renegade15jhutchins_lt: Sorry, was eating. Because even though I waited two months to give the devs time to fix stuff this time, the dist-upgrade process was a disaster, as usual. Doesn't matter by now, though. I accepted the fact that, as usual, the system is a mess and apt is gonna wipe out half the system before I can start fixing it.18:07
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jhutchins_ltDist upgrades have gone smoothly for me, but I stick with stable.18:20
jhutchins_ltIf you do stuff like upgrade packages but not upgrade their dependencies you're going to have breakage.18:20
Renegade15most certainly less breakage than before18:22
jhutchins_ltGood, good.18:22
Renegade15not to mention that shit like aptitude dying over blank lines in rarcrack-compdigitec-unofficial's description is definitely not my fault18:23
jussiTm_T: !!!!!!!!18:25
jussiTm_T: I fixored it -see post #3 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=13725718:25
sdaughertyHi, There seems to be some sort of squid error on www.kubuntu.org. http://paste.kde.org/493742/18:37
lordievaderGood evening18:48
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semyon__is any mmorpg on ubuntu 10.04?19:11
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giantpunehi, i have an issue with a micro SD card.  every time i insert the card into my computer, the whole system seems to lock up and my sd reader is trying really hard to read from the card.  when i pull the card out of my reader, the system starts responding again21:22
giantpunemy dmesg gets filled up with this over and over.  http://pastie.org/private/0o0jxkytrauei4muctewva21:23
giantpunedoes anybody have any ideas about what can be done to make it work right?21:24
fastaWhich framebuffer modules do I need to boot?21:35
datruthhow can I edit my boot menu in kubuntu?21:42
LordOfTimeyou mean the grub bootloader?21:43
datruthYes21:43
LordOfTimehow did you want to edit it?21:44
LordOfTimei.e. what did you want to edit in it21:45
datruthWell when I boot up there are two entries for Windows 7 for two drives but they both boot to the same os21:45
datruthI added a second drive and formatted as FAT32 so it can been seen via my dual boot21:46
datruthso I'd like to remove the extra entry21:46
LordOfTimedatruth:  ah, that won't stick then21:58
sunitasethihi LordOfTime21:59
LordOfTimei filed this as a bug (I have the same problem), LP Bug 100914721:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1009147 in os-prober (Ubuntu) "Windows partitions incorrectly detected as duplicates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100914721:59
LordOfTimedatruth:  ^  might want to mark that as affecting you as well21:59
datruthhemm22:02
datruthdamn22:02
brad___is it possible to disable the webcame in kopete? on my notebook the webcam is built in and the light comes on whenever kopete is on22:41
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mr0wlwhat's good PPA for the latest Firefox?23:41
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Guest2403question. How could I install xfce on Kubuntu 5.04 powerpc?23:50
mydogsnameisrudyhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu23:52

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