[08:42] <trijntje> Should all tests be done with real physical CDs or can I also use a usb disk as installation medium?
[08:42] <trijntje> eg, http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/NetBoot only mentions CD
[08:45] <trijntje> also, the download option gives me a tar.gz, how should I put that on a cd/usb?
[08:53] <pitti> trijntje: USB image is just fine, and even encouraged
[08:54] <pitti> trijntje: write it with the usb-creator tool, or anything which can write the image on the raw device
[08:54] <pitti> trijntje: the descriptions are indeed a bit outdated; from Quantal on we will only have one image which will probably be called "USB" (or perhaps DVD)
[08:55] <pitti> trijntje: usb/dvd images are .iso; netboot works differently
[08:55] <pitti> you either need to set up tftp with that tarball, or download mini.iso
[08:58] <trijntje> but where should I download mini.iso for quantal alpha1, and what should I do with the .tar.gz when I use mini.iso?
[08:58] <pitti> TBH I've never tried netboot, so I'm afraid I cannnot give reliable information beyond that
[09:01] <trijntje> pitti: ok thanks, I'll wait around for a bit to see if someone else here knows
[09:02] <trijntje> pitti: on a 100% unrelated note, if you don't mind, are you aware of this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-defaults-builder/+bug/998351
[09:03] <pitti> trijntje: I've seen it, but haven't had time to look into it yet
[09:05] <trijntje> pitti: good, I'm sorry to bother you in that case. I'm never sure who gets notified about bugs since launchpad only lists 'maybe notified'
[09:05] <pitti> no need to be sorry, that's fine :)
[09:11] <trijntje> thanks, I alway's feel like I'm bothering you with my problems ;)
[09:14] <jibel> trijntje, the right image for the netboot installation is http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-amd64/20101020ubuntu145/images/netboot/mini.iso
[09:14] <jibel> or http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-i386/20101020ubuntu145/images/netboot/mini.iso for 32bit
[09:14] <jibel> you don't need the tar.gz
[09:15] <jibel> The link on the tracker should be fixed
[09:15] <trijntje> jibel: thanks! Can I do somehting to help fix the link on the tracker?
[09:15] <jibel> stgraber, ^ for i386 and amd64 is http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-amd64/20101020ubuntu145/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz on purpose ?
[09:16] <jibel> trijntje, that's fine, we'll wait for a confirmation from stgraber
[09:16] <jibel> trijntje, thanks for pointing it
[09:19] <trijntje> no problem, I'm glad I can get on with testing now ;)
[09:20] <jibel> kernel crashed during install on Mac :(
[09:20] <jibel> and grub failed to install on alternate amd64 in expert mode :( :(
[09:26] <jibel> stgraber, I fixed the links to mini.iso, I'll revert if that was not a mistake
[09:30] <jibel> pitti, does it make sense to report bugs about jockey ? it's showing strange devices (USB HID, uas, intel graphics, intel smbus, ...) and fails when I try to activate any of them
[09:31] <pitti> jibel: not really any more; ubiquity is now using ubuntu-drivers-common, and we try to get rid of it
[09:31] <pitti> I noticed the same, but didn't bother to debug it any more
[09:32] <jibel> pitti, ok, thanks
[13:30] <stgraber> jibel: not sure why we were pointing to netboot.tar.gz but that definitely sounds like a mistake, mini.iso is really the easiest way to test netinstall
[14:24] <njin> jibel: is amd64 desktop respinning ?
[14:27] <jibel> njin, yes all images have been respun to grab latest kernel and debian-installer changes
[14:28] <njin> ok waiting
[15:41] <jibel> balloons, why did you report the cjk error twice, is there a difference between the 2 bugs ?
[15:43] <balloons> jibel, I don't believe there is a difference (but I can't read the bug).. and I wanted to take a look at the logs apport would upload from it
[15:44] <jibel> balloons, ah ok. You can just read the logs from the live session too
[15:44] <balloons> jibel, open question -- if I find a bug that is a dupe of mine, but I feel my debugging information would be useful, what;s the easiest way to add my stuff to the bug report?
[15:44] <jibel> without filing a new bug
[15:45] <jibel> balloons, add a comment and attachments to the master report
[15:47] <jibel> balloons, did you reproduce 1009052 with another language than Chinese ?
[15:48] <balloons> ok, but where are the attachments to do so?
[15:48] <balloons> jibel, yes I used simplified chinese, and chinese.. when the new  images come I can try japanese and korean
[15:50] <jibel> ah ok, only Chinese then.
[15:50] <jibel> balloons, any type of attachment that can improve the bug report.
[15:50] <jibel> for ubiquity, interesting pieces are in /var/log/syslog, /var/log/partman and the content of /var/log/installer/*
[15:52] <balloons> jibel, noted.. thank you
[15:58] <jibel> balloons, I tried spanish and it passed. It seems to affect only Chinese
[16:00]  * balloons wonders if other asian languages are affected
[16:00] <balloons> I guess I can just try one on the old image anyway
[16:03] <balloons> trying japanese.. then lunch :-)
[16:04] <jibel> balloons, yes, changes in new build won't affect languages
[16:04] <balloons> hmm.. it autodetects me as in toyko.. which is wrong, my network is working and showing in ubiquity as active
[16:10] <balloons> jibel, japanese install fails as well
[18:21] <trijntje> when testing the netboot image, choosing 'kubuntu' after the install of the minimal system should give a full graphical kubuntu desktop right?
[18:23] <njin> AFAIK you have to install kubuntu on first
[18:25] <njin> trijntje:^^
[18:39] <njin> I want to test Ubuntu amd64 desktop, pull out of the oven or the bugs will be roasted !!!
[18:40] <stgraber> njin: it's building at the moment, should be published in the next hour
[18:40] <stgraber> njin: though note that we'll start respinning all the images in 3-4 hours for kernel bugs (affecting amd64 macs and arm)
[18:40] <stgraber> so we're just doing that batch of builds to try and find a few more bugs we may want fixed before the later rebuild
[18:41] <njin> ok so I can est a wubi install, just to see if complete
[18:42] <stgraber> yep, that's always useful
[18:42] <stgraber> basically anything that wasn't tested at all so far, would be good to test before we rebuild everything
[18:43] <njin> ok thanks stgraber, ah sandra asks me how you can do more than 900 tests
[18:44] <stgraber> njin: I do daily upgrade testing of all the flavours :)
[18:44] <njin> I reply, night and day,
[18:44] <njin> great stgraber !!
[19:55] <jibel> trijntje, right, if you select the task kubuntu during a netboot install, you should have a fully working kubuntu desktop after installation
[20:04] <stgraber> njin: ^ there you go :)
[20:05] <njin> stgraber, thanks
[20:05] <njin> uhm, i've to wait ½ hour for wubi to end
[20:34] <trijntje> jibel, njin: thanks, it looks like I made some mistakes during install so I'm running it again