[05:18] <mazal> Goeiemôre , goodmorning
[06:38] <superfly> o/
[06:46] <HawkiesZA> \o
[07:04] <charlvn> good morning
[07:05]  * HawkiesZA looks at charlvn sleepily
[07:05] <HawkiesZA> Good?
[07:26] <charlvn> Maaz: coffee aub
[07:26] <Maaz> charlvn: Sorry...
[07:26] <charlvn> Maaz: coffee please
[07:26] <Maaz> charlvn: There isn't a pot on
[07:26] <charlvn> Maaz: you suck
[07:26] <Maaz> charlvn: Huh?
[07:26] <charlvn> Maaz: coffee on
[07:26]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[07:26] <charlvn> that's better :)
[07:30] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charlvn!
[07:31]  * mazal needs a Maaz in his office :)
[07:31] <charlvn> Maaz: coffee please
[07:31] <Maaz> charlvn: There isn't a pot on
[07:32] <charlvn> lol dunno how this works but ok
[07:32] <charlvn> mazal: i could think of better maids than maaz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maid_caf%C3%A9
[09:17] <NeVeR_> jeez mIRC is crap O_o just freakn times out and falls over
[09:22] <NeVeR_> Everyone liking 12.04?
[09:26] <Squirm> haven't tried it
[09:26] <NeVeR_> 4real?
[09:27] <NeVeR_> my stack is very stable
[09:27] <charlvn> NeVeR_: i used mirc for years, never had that experience myself, perhaps it's just the new versions
[09:27] <NeVeR_> been using it since beta 2.. no problems so far
[09:28] <charlvn> NeVeR_: but yes, liking 12.04, i am having some issues with gnome3 though
[09:28] <NeVeR_> probably new versions lol... Im using 7.12 or something
[09:28] <charlvn> getting a bunch of crashes and error reports and stuff of some of the components
[09:28] <NeVeR_> I haven't tried ubuntu desktop.. only server :|
[09:28] <NeVeR_> well 12.04
[09:28] <charlvn> only real trouble i have with stuff crashing on a regular basis are desktop components, rarely server components
[09:29] <charlvn> although my server is still running on 11.10
[09:29] <charlvn> don't have much need to upgrade it yet but will probably soon
[09:30] <NeVeR_> I upgraded all my servers :) it was so painless :D Only thing that I had trouble with was going from dovecot 1 to dovecot 2
[09:30] <NeVeR_> couldn't find any documentatio
[09:30] <NeVeR_> couldn't find any documentation
[09:30] <charlvn> yeah i don't use dovecot, i use mutt directly on the server
[09:31] <charlvn> i used dovecot back in 2005/2006, quite a nice application
[09:32] <Symmetria> mmm
[09:32] <Symmetria> if anyone is in joburg and needs a hotel
[09:32] <NeVeR_> i use dovecot + postfix
[09:32] <Symmetria> the sandton towers intercontinental can be recommended
[09:32] <Symmetria> god thats a nice hotel to stay in
[09:32] <NeVeR_> lol expensive?
[09:32] <charlvn> Symmetria: i bet... and expensive :)
[09:33] <Symmetria> charlvn *shrug* all gets billed back to the clients anyway
[09:33] <charlvn> lol nice
[09:33] <charlvn> NeVeR_: yeah postfix+mutt here
[09:34] <Symmetria> charlvn heh, as a private contractor, those things are also tax deductable 
[09:34] <Symmetria> and the more shit I can rack up to write off to tax the better, I pay enough tax as it is :p
[09:34] <charlvn> Symmetria: that's true
[09:34] <charlvn> i used to work as a contractor as well
[09:34] <charlvn> with all the deductions i ended up saving a lot of money
[09:34] <Symmetria> lol, a while back my accountant warned me I was gonna have a huge tax bill if I didnt find something to write off 
[09:35] <charlvn> then you can even go a step up, don't live in any particular country for too long, and not pay tax at all
[09:35] <Symmetria> so I upgraded a flight from london to south africa from economy to first class
[09:35] <Symmetria> and wrote the upgrade cost off, business expense 
[09:35] <Symmetria> (which it was a business trip)
[09:35] <Symmetria> lol, 3 thousand GBP write off :p
[09:35] <charlvn> yeah totally, good thinking
[09:35] <charlvn> nice
[09:35] <Symmetria> heh, the contracting market that Im working in right now is fantastic though
[09:36] <Symmetria> Ive gotta make a choice, either start turning away work, or form a full company and hire staff
[09:36] <charlvn> if you don't mind traveling, it's the way to work in ict honestly
[09:36] <Symmetria> cause there is way more work than I can actually do out there 
[09:36] <charlvn> i just got tired of all the traveling eventually
[09:36] <Symmetria> charlvn well, most of my work I can do remotely, though I do also travel extensively for one of my clients
[09:37] <charlvn> that's true but once you start a company and hire staff, you start becoming a manager and have all of that to deal with
[09:37] <Symmetria> heh, so far this year its been london, germany, norway, iceland, senegal, gambia, uganda
[09:37] <charlvn> not bad
[09:37] <Symmetria> lisbon, dubai, nairobi and dar es salaam still left for the year 
[09:37] <NeVeR_> jeez 
[09:37] <charlvn> sheesh
[09:37] <HawkiesZA> Share the love?
[09:38] <Symmetria> charlvn heh yeah, and the simple fact is I dont really need to make any more money than I do, which is the only reason to open a company
[09:38] <charlvn> one upside... you get to see the world that way :)
[09:38] <charlvn> yeah exactly
[09:38] <Symmetria> I mean, the money in the network consultancy market at the moment in africa is beyond insane, I have no idea why ANYONE would emigrate 
[09:38] <NeVeR_> I went to Amsterdam once on company expense... won a trip for "Most positive employee"... I dont even know how that happened... don
[09:38] <NeVeR_> dont remember being positive at work ever
[09:38] <charlvn> lol
[09:38] <charlvn> maybe it's just because you weren't negative all the time :)
[09:39] <NeVeR_> lol
[09:39] <Symmetria> its relatively easy to make R250k a month in africa working in network consultancy at the moment
[09:39] <NeVeR_> R250k a month?! WTF?
[09:39] <charlvn> that's quite heavy
[09:39] <NeVeR_> I dont even earn a 10th of that a month :\
[09:39]  * HawkiesZA has a coughing fit
[09:40] <Symmetria> *shrug* its around $200 an hour, 8 hours a day, 22 days a month
[09:40] <Symmetria> at current exchange rate its around R281k a month :p
[09:40] <HawkiesZA> The trick is to get paid in dollars
[09:40] <Symmetria> heh hawkies I only bill in dollars 
[09:40] <charlvn> i guess it does make sense
[09:40] <Symmetria> even to my south african clients 
[09:41] <HawkiesZA> Better to do it that way
[09:41] <charlvn> yeah the currencies fluctuate so much these days
[09:41] <HawkiesZA> They'd be shocked to see what it is in ZAR
[09:41] <charlvn> might as well standardise on a major currency
[09:41] <charlvn> good point HawkiesZA 
[09:41] <Symmetria> *shrug* the best part of all of this is that I would say 70% of my work I can do from a notebook in a deckchair on the beach :p
[09:41] <Symmetria> HawkiesZA actually, Ive found that corporate clients like big bills, it gives them this wierd sense of security
[09:42] <charlvn> that's very true
[09:42] <Symmetria> if you underbill they think they need to find someone more expensive because more expensive MUST mean better :p
[09:42] <charlvn> i found that as well
[09:42] <charlvn> if you pay for a consultant they better be expensive
[09:42] <HawkiesZA> Do they also have a preference for oddly-numbered bills?
[09:42] <HawkiesZA> Instead of just $1000 you make it $1052.89 or something
[09:43] <charlvn> heh then it looks more accurate and not like you're just taking them for money
[09:43] <HawkiesZA> Make it look like you did the maffs
[09:43] <Symmetria> heh hawkies, that I dont do, I charge $200 an hour, no partial hours :p
[09:43] <charlvn> it looks like you genuinely worked it out
[09:43] <Symmetria> and thats explicitly stated 
[09:43] <HawkiesZA> ah, ok
[09:43] <HawkiesZA> Fair enough
[09:44] <Symmetria> (when I say no partial hours though, its a daily roundup, so if I do 30 minutes for you today its 1 hour, if I do 3 30 minute segments spread over teh day, its 2 hours for the day)
[09:44] <Symmetria> my billing system does auto roundup per client to nearest hour at the end of each day
[09:44] <charlvn> good system
[09:45] <Symmetria> btw, if anyone is ever staying in bloemfontein (though why anyone would be doing that, I dont know, but I found myself with a client there)
[09:45] <charlvn> lol
[09:45] <Symmetria> the windmill hotel and casino = nice hotel, and if you have a sun international mvg card, you get HUGE discounts on the hotel
[09:45] <Symmetria> it becomes the cheapest 5 star hotel in the country if you have that mvg card :p
[09:45] <Symmetria> like 600 bux a night
[09:45] <Symmetria> lol
[09:46] <charlvn> 600 ZAR?
[09:46] <charlvn> that's not bad at all
[09:47] <HawkiesZA> For 5 stars? Bargain
[09:47] <charlvn> yeah no kidding
[09:52] <Symmetria> heh, its better than the 4.5k for the hotel in joburg
[09:56] <charlvn> ouch
[09:56] <Symmetria> lol but *shrug* if Im on the road and travelling, I need comfort to at least get some rest
[09:59] <charlvn> that's very true
[10:20] <NeVeR_> lol
[10:49] <NeVeR_> how do you get into network consultency?
[10:49] <NeVeR_> tancy8
[10:50] <NeVeR_> 8
[10:50] <NeVeR_> *
[10:50] <NeVeR_> shift R broken
[10:50] <Banlam> at least now we know why internet costs in SA are so high :P
[10:51] <NeVeR_> :P
[10:51] <NeVeR_> sorry
[10:51] <NeVeR_> These damn British Network Consultants are making it too high :( fml
[11:43] <charlvn> NeVeR_: the key is to specialise and then it's all about having the right reputation and connections
[11:43] <charlvn> Banlam: yup
[11:45] <NeVeR_> I wouldn't even know where to start :P I think I
[11:46] <NeVeR_> I think I should hit the books
[11:46] <NeVeR_> I reckon the only way I'll make it is to get some qualifications... Its impossible to get a name working where I currently am
[11:47] <charlvn> in ict experience > qualifications
[11:49] <charlvn> i have no qualifications other than a b.sc.
[11:49] <NeVeR_> I have 5 years experience as a System Administrator, no one wants to hire me
[11:50] <NeVeR_> I have no qualifications
[11:50] <NeVeR_> I have matrix
[11:50] <NeVeR_> I have matric
[11:50] <NeVeR_> rofl
[11:50] <NeVeR_> matrix :P
[11:50] <charlvn> neo?
[11:50] <charlvn> :D
[11:50] <charlvn> i can haz teh matrix
[11:50] <HawkiesZA> Was about to say...Matrix....Daum, you're 1337
[11:50] <charlvn> yup
[11:51] <charlvn> if your work bores you, you need a personal project
[11:51] <HawkiesZA> Mine is watching all the series
[11:52] <charlvn> my hobby is watching anime series
[11:52] <charlvn> and learning japanese
[11:52] <HawkiesZA> That sounds like fun
[11:52] <charlvn> and talk to people on irc :P
[11:52] <HawkiesZA> I want to learn a third language
[11:53] <HawkiesZA> How do you go about learning Japanese?
[11:53] <charlvn> but then i also do a lot of crap with *nix and ipv6 and python and sometimes java in my spare time
[11:53] <charlvn> HawkiesZA: watch a lot of anime, subtitled not dubbed
[11:53] <charlvn> then look up words you don't know
[11:53] <charlvn> slowly you start learning the words, what they mean, and how they are used
[11:53] <charlvn> better than learning japanese from the text book because then you don't learn how it's used in normal everyday speech
[11:54] <charlvn> the phrasing, expressions, etc in japanese are totally different than western languages
[11:54] <charlvn> you don't get that stuff from the book
[11:54] <HawkiesZA> I see
[11:54] <charlvn> one simple example is words like "des" and "mas"
[11:54] <charlvn> they don't translate
[11:54] <HawkiesZA> Suggestions for decent Anime? I haven't watched in years :/
[11:55] <charlvn> ghost in a shell, haruhi suzuima, macross zero, macross frontier
[11:55] <charlvn> those are all classics
[11:55] <charlvn> working! is also very good
[11:55] <charlvn> baby please kill me is also good
[11:55] <NeVeR_> I've only watched Ghost in a shell
[11:55] <charlvn> i'm following acchi kocchi atm
[11:56] <charlvn> lucky star is another classic
[11:57]  * HawkiesZA takes notes
[11:57] <charlvn> mawaru penguindrum also recommended
[11:57] <charlvn> i could carry on
[12:00] <charlvn> bbl
[12:04]  * superfly has no time for watching series, he has open source projects to work on
[12:05] <HawkiesZA> superfly is a better man than I
[12:05] <superfly> HawkiesZA: it's all about priorities
[12:05] <superfly> Oh, and I refuse to be a pirate.
[12:06] <mazal> Hayes of to you superfly , didn't think there are any left ;-)
[12:06] <mazal> Hates even 
[12:06] <mazal> Hats even 
[12:06] <mazal> boy I must be tired
[12:07] <charlvn> superfly: that's good, what are you working on atm?
[12:11] <superfly> charlvn: My big open source app is one called OpenLP
[12:12] <superfly> I have a couple of others, but I don't usually have much time for them
[12:14] <charlvn> ah ok, nice
[12:14] <charlvn> that's the problem, i program the whole day for work
[12:14] <charlvn> then i don't have too much energy left for too many serious side projects outside of that
[12:14] <charlvn> if i do get some time i just do some random research & development to stay up to date
[12:25] <Symmetria> damn! I thought I was expensive, I phoned my accountant to get one certified letter saying certain things which I dictated them, and they charged me R750 for a letter
[12:26] <NeVeR_> R750 for a letter? ffffff!@!%%%
[12:27] <NeVeR_> if it took them 30 minutes to type out and sign then they are on par with u :P
[12:29] <Symmetria> lol no they would still be cheaper :P but it couldnt have taken them more than 15 minutes which makes them slightly more expensive :p
[12:29] <Symmetria> haha I have no issues charging my rates, I have definate issues paying them
[12:29] <Symmetria> haha
[12:30] <charlvn> yeah that's typical :P
[12:31] <charlvn> Symmetria: http://i.imgur.com/JttmE.png
[12:38] <NeVeR_> rofl
[12:39] <Kerbero> lol
[12:50] <Symmetria> http://perplexa.be/foto.jpg <[12:50] <Symmetria> :p
[12:56] <Kerbero> wow
[12:56] <Kerbero> but that is stupid
[12:57] <Kerbero> seeing as the speed limits are only in certain parts
[12:57] <Kerbero> so if you miss the sign that can happen quite easily
[12:57]  * Kerbero is glad to see it is an audi
[13:00] <charlvn> yeah but seriously, 208kmph?
[13:00] <Kerbero> not that fast
[13:00] <Kerbero> it is the autobahn...
[13:00] <NeVeR_> I do more than that on a daily basis :?
[13:00] <NeVeR_> Only been arrested once
[13:00] <Kerbero> good
[13:01] <charlvn> no seriously
[13:01] <charlvn> yeah there are some roads where you can do it (in germany)
[13:01] <NeVeR_> I have a CBR600rr
[13:01] <charlvn> but that's FAST
[13:01] <NeVeR_> 0-200 in under 20s
[13:01] <HawkiesZA> 208 on a CBR600? nah
[13:01] <charlvn> 135kmph was the limit on that road
[13:02] <charlvn> if you go 140 or even 150 but you go more than 200 you're being an asshole
[13:02] <NeVeR_> my bike is limited at 260kmph
[13:02] <NeVeR_> my gf's is limited at 300KM/h
[13:03] <NeVeR_> :|
[13:03] <HawkiesZA> haha
[13:03] <NeVeR_> her bike is on my name
[13:03] <NeVeR_> I get all the fines :(
[13:03] <HawkiesZA> Hopefully not all the demerits
[13:04] <NeVeR_> Lol there are no demerits yet.. I had to go to court the other day, R1500 fine for 122 in a 80 zone :\ she did pay for it
[13:05] <charlvn> i wonder who was with that guy in the car... there is a white square
[13:05] <charlvn> i wonder if that was done by the guy who uploaded it or by the government
[13:05] <Kerbero> the white squire is the driver
[13:06] <Kerbero> ua
[13:06] <charlvn> because i know sometimes they do it because guys get caught for cheating on their wives like this
[13:06] <Kerbero> lol
[13:06] <charlvn> bull that is not the driver
[13:06] <charlvn> that is the passenger
[13:06] <Kerbero> hehe
[13:06] <Kerbero> true
[13:06] <Kerbero> so the driver is not even looking at the road
[13:07] <charlvn> the driver seems to be looking at the road
[13:07] <charlvn> he is looking dead right in front of him no?
[13:08] <charlvn> heh his number plate reads 666
[13:08] <charlvn> the beast checking in
[13:09] <NeVeR_> lol
[13:12] <Symmetria> heh
[13:12] <Symmetria> 208 isnt that bad
[13:12] <Symmetria> I've done *WAY* more than that on the bloem -> east london stretch
[13:13] <Symmetria> heh, still not close to what I've done on that road through namibia to the border though
[13:17] <charlvn> phew
[13:17] <charlvn> you people are maniacs
[13:17] <charlvn> it's people like you why i don't like to drive :P
[13:17] <charlvn> i rather use public transport
[13:18] <Kerbero> in europe i always use public transport
[13:18] <Kerbero> but in SA not
[13:18] <charlvn> well in .za there is no public transport
[13:18] <Kerbero> exactly
[13:18] <charlvn> other than a minibus taxi and who wants to use that
[13:26] <NeVeR_> I've never used one :O
[13:27] <NeVeR_> thought about it... would cost me R12/day to get to work and back instead of R50 a day
[13:27] <NeVeR_> then again I can't handle traffic in my own car.. being in traffic in a taxi would kill me
[13:41] <charlvn> yup
[13:47] <NeVeR_> cheers everyone
[14:19] <Kilos> afternoon everyone
[14:20] <Kilos> one thing worse than no internet connection is no power at all
[14:20] <charlvn> hi Kilos 
[14:20] <charlvn> bah
[14:34] <Kilos> just looking through the new Unity guide. I could maybe get used to it
[14:34] <Kilos> at least the colour is good
[14:34] <charlvn> hi zeref 
[14:35] <Kilos> yo zeref 
[14:36] <zeref> herro Kilos 
[14:37] <Kilos> lol
[14:58] <zeref> ...
[15:06] <Kilos> bbl gotta go look for a missing sheep
[15:06] <Kilos> grr
[17:19] <smile4linux> hallo iedereen :)
[17:29] <smile4linux> kilos is nie hier nie?
[17:44] <Kilos> hi not_found superfly and others
[17:44] <Kilos> lo smile4linux 
[17:45] <not_found> alo
[17:45] <smile4linux> hi Kilos :)
[17:45] <smile4linux> :D
[17:45] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[17:45] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[17:46] <psydroid> hoi smiledlinux
[17:46] <psydroid> smile4linux
[17:46] <smile4linux> psydroid: hallo :)
[17:46] <smile4linux> ^^
[17:46] <psydroid> file_not_found
[17:46] <smile4linux> psydroid: ek het 'n moeilike naam ;)
[17:47] <Kilos> use a client that can do tab complete
[17:47] <psydroid> smile4linux, jy heb gelyk
[17:47] <Kilos> then just type first 3 letters
[17:47] <smile4linux> * jy het gelyk / jy is reg
[17:47] <psydroid> I have to figure out how that works on android first
[17:48] <psydroid> jy is krom
[17:48] <Kilos> eish thats why i dont use cell for coming on here , i dunno where the tab button is
[17:49] <psydroid> I can get the name from the user list
[17:49] <smile4linux> psydroid: ek is krom? :s
[17:50] <psydroid> smile4linux en scheef
[17:50] <smile4linux> psydroid: ek snap jou nie :p
[17:51] <Kilos> whew more to think about
[17:51] <Kilos> neelsie hoekom so still?
[17:51] <psydroid> smile4linux, ek snap nie myself ook nie, da syn wy twee
[17:52] <Kilos> have you two joined our mailing list yet
[17:52] <psydroid> vergeef my voor my sonde in die afrikaanse taal
[17:52] <psydroid> what was it again, Kilos?
[17:52] <Kilos> vergewe
[17:52] <smile4linux> psydroid: lol :p
[17:53] <not_found> sukkling uncle Kilos :p
[17:53] <Kilos> aw wassup lad
[17:54] <Banlam> who is kilos suckling?
[17:54] <not_found> trying to make bastion work in Ubuntu but the game crashes everytime I move the mouse "
[17:54] <Kilos> psydroid, ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com
[17:55] <psydroid> oh, I found out today that Kubuntu 12.04 prereleases worked fine on Nvidia hardware, but the release is a disaster
[17:55] <Kilos> oh not_found thats not serious sukkeling
[17:55] <Kilos> haha Banlam 
[17:55] <psydroid> Kilos, thanks
[17:56] <psydroid> I should subscribe to the Dutch list too, finally
[17:56] <psydroid> and a few other ones
[17:56] <not_found> lol... sukkel bly sukkel... oh and my current ubuntu install is working to well.. starting to get these cravings to distro hop again :/
[17:56] <Kilos> psydroid,  i forget how to actually join
[17:56] <Banlam> bastio is fun :)
[17:57] <not_found> Banlam, I would like to try it :(
[17:57] <psydroid> Kilos, it's ok, I will figure it out
[17:57] <Kilos> haha not_found you using 12.04 in unity
[17:57] <not_found> yes uncle Kilos 
[17:57] <psydroid> but have none of you had major graphics problems with the latest ubuntu?
[17:57] <Kilos> i looked at the guide. i might be able to get used to unity
[17:58] <psydroid> it looks like 3d acceleration does not function at all, everything feels so slow
[17:58] <not_found> flying on my system... Unity 5 is quick...
[17:58] <psydroid> on nvidia with nouveau it's even unuseable
[17:59] <psydroid> hmm, ok
[17:59] <psydroid> I am running kubuntu here, though
[17:59] <psydroid> I will install ubuntu alongside and see how it works
[18:00] <psydroid> I have radeonhd 4200 graphics in my desktop, it should fly
[18:01] <not_found> the open source drivers are a joke :\
[18:01] <Kilos> then talk to the kubuntu guys
[18:01] <Kilos> superfly, and inetpro 
[18:01] <Kilos> oh psydroid why i asked about our list i got a mail today about lpi stuff
[18:01] <psydroid> Kilos, oh yeah, I will join asap
[18:02] <psydroid> not_found, but they used to work fine, with the latest xorg in released kubuntu things started to go downhill
[18:03] <not_found> psydroid, I looked at the performance of them against the proprietary drivers and they suck in comparison...
[18:04] <psydroid> not_found, ah, I will try them if I get a chance, I am scared of the proprietary driver to be honest
[18:05] <psydroid> because the number of crashes they used to cause
[18:05] <psydroid> because of*
[18:06] <not_found> installing the one that is default selected when you look fer restricted drivers has worked well for me...
[18:06] <not_found> just check because AMD has dropped support for some older cards...
[18:07] <zeref> hmmm
[18:09] <psydroid> but with nvidia it has been a real problem, I can't even get as far as reaching the desktop
[18:10] <psydroid> but maybe a fresh install will solve this
[18:10] <psydroid> I will, maybe on a test install
[18:12] <not_found> I typically have to use nomodeset until I have the driver installed... then I had to override my screens eeid info as it was wrong... took some time but working like a charm now
[18:13] <psydroid> thanks, I will keep that in mind
[18:13] <psydroid> hopefully that will solve my issues with sluggishness
[18:15] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[18:15] <psydroid> hello magespawn
[18:16] <magespawn> Hi  Kilos psydroid
[18:16] <Kilos> magespawn, how do you tab complete a nick with them droid thingies
[18:16] <charlvn> good evening all
[18:16] <Kilos> hiya charlvn 
[18:17] <charlvn> watching iron sky now
[18:17] <charlvn> very nice film
[18:17] <magespawn> I don't
[18:17] <Kilos> whew then you gotta type well to get funny nicks right hey
[18:18] <magespawn> Yup good practice
[18:18] <Banlam> then you just start calling people things like, psy, mage and smile
[18:18] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[18:19] <charlvn> problem is just the user's client don't notify them of mentions
[18:19] <charlvn> if their full nick isn't used i mean
[18:19] <Kilos> yeah
[18:20] <Banlam> true
[18:20] <Banlam> but i have custom notifications
[18:20] <Banlam> for Banny, Banlam
[18:20] <Banlam> and several other variants
[18:20] <Kilos> like lotsa the guys here they never say anything unless directed at them
[18:20] <charlvn> you can nicely troll people like that too
[18:20] <charlvn> but that's what the ignore function is for
[18:21] <Kilos> lol troll them?
[18:21] <charlvn> yeah just repeatedly use their names
[18:21] <charlvn> and irritate them
[18:21] <Banlam> when they're not here
[18:21] <Banlam> kilos
[18:21] <Banlam> how's it going kilos
[18:21] <Banlam> you there kilos?
[18:21] <Banlam> kilos!
[18:21] <Banlam> that kind of thing
[18:21] <Kilos> oh my then you wont get help tomorrow
[18:21] <Kilos> we are all friends here
[18:22] <Banlam> :P
[18:22] <Kilos> hopefully so i try not irritate anyone
[18:22] <magespawn> Most trolls are not looking for help
[18:22] <Kilos> ya but tomorrow or next week he might need help and then will sukkel
[18:22] <charlvn> Kilos: then they can just use a different nick
[18:23] <charlvn> nobody knows who anyone is in principle
[18:23] <charlvn> well you all know who i am :P
[18:23] <charlvn> but i'm not a troll
[18:23] <Kilos> hehe
[18:23] <charlvn> actually anyone can log into freenode as charlvn
[18:23] <Kilos> Banlam, fine ty
[18:23] <charlvn> at least when i'm not logged on
[18:23] <charlvn> but in any case...
[18:23] <Banlam> haha
[18:24] <Kilos> Banlam, yes im here
[18:24] <Banlam> really?
[18:24] <Kilos> i wont go on
[18:24] <Banlam> i had no idea
[18:24] <Kilos> hehe
[18:24] <Banlam> :P
[18:24] <magespawn> So on the net we trust those people who reveal some of themselves
[18:24] <Banlam> you're too kind
[18:24] <charlvn> magespawn: but what you "reveal" of yourself could be fake of course
[18:24] <charlvn> i could invent any fake persona
[18:24] <charlvn> for example, in real life i could be a girl
[18:25] <Kilos> ha ha
[18:25] <charlvn> i don't know who the heck would buy that but ok :)
[18:25] <Kilos> we been down that road too here in my last 3 years
[18:26] <magespawn> Yes that is true. YOU MEAN YOUR NOT? Darn, i was going to start using my famous pick up lines.
[18:26] <charlvn> lol
[18:26] <Kilos> lol
[18:26] <charlvn> sorry i like playing hard to get
[18:28] <Kilos> we only got 2 ladies here
[18:28] <charlvn> maaz is one of them?
[18:28] <Banlam> haha
[18:29] <Kilos> whew maia and i argue about that. i say maaz is mail
[18:29] <Banlam> male?
[18:29] <Kilos> Maaz, are you male
[18:29] <charlvn> lol
[18:29] <Maaz> No. Us Bots are above that human failing
[18:29] <Banlam> failing! bah!
[18:29] <Kilos> Maaz, are you female
[18:29] <Maaz> Come on, be realistic. I'm a Bot
[18:29] <charlvn> Maaz: are you a fembot?
[18:29] <Maaz> charlvn: Huh?
[18:30] <charlvn> sorry bad austin powers joke
[18:30] <charlvn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actroid
[18:30] <magespawn> Male and female can also be used to describe a personality or a point of view
[18:31] <charlvn> http://www.diginfo.tv/v/12-0011-r-en.php
[18:32] <Kilos> hi cocooncrash you a very busy chappy?
[18:33] <smile4linux> bye :)
[18:33] <Kilos> cheers smile4linux  sleep tight
[18:33] <charlvn> cheers smile4linux 
[18:33] <smile4linux> see ya! :D
[18:33] <smile4linux> Kilos: thank you thank you :)
[18:33] <smile4linux> good nite :)
[18:37] <Kilos> charlvn, whats your time there now. 2 hours behind us or what?
[18:38] <charlvn> Kilos: cest is the same timezone as sast
[18:38] <charlvn> utc+02:00
[18:39] <nuvolari> aloha
[18:39] <Kilos> ah ty
[18:39] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos, charlvn 
[18:39] <charlvn> hi nuvolari 
[18:39] <nuvolari> and Banlam 
[18:39] <Kilos> yo nuvolari hoe gaan dit
[18:39] <Banlam> good evening
[18:39] <nuvolari> goed en met almal hier?
[18:39] <Kilos> geselsig vanaand
[18:40] <magespawn> Howdy  nuvolari
[18:40] <nuvolari> ek sien so!
[18:40] <Kilos> hehe
[18:40] <nuvolari> howdy magespawn 
[18:40] <nuvolari> doing well?
[18:41] <magespawn> Peachy keen and you?
[18:41] <nuvolari> doing well thanks
[18:46] <Banlam> en nou hou almal op om te praat
[18:47] <charlvn> busy watching iron sky
[18:47] <magespawn> nuvolari scared us.
[18:47] <nuvolari> :-/ I'm sorry
[18:48] <Banlam> you're forgiven
[18:49] <Kilos> lol
[18:49] <charlvn> the one moment we were all like "oh i have verbal diarrhea" and next moment we are like "wtfstfubbq"
[18:50] <Kilos> nuvolari, het jy my laaste forward lpi pos gesien?
[18:50] <Kilos> i was stirring my mutton curry and making tea
[18:57] <magespawn> I have to go, got some work to do, night all.
[18:57] <Kilos> cheers magespawn go well
[18:57] <Kilos> sleep tight
[19:03] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:25] <charlvn> wow that was a good movie
[19:25] <charlvn> recommended
[19:25] <charlvn> i'm off too, ciao all!
[19:39] <zeref> to move to 12.04 or not to move, that is the question...
[19:57] <not_found> it is good, you like
[20:47] <charlvn> zeref: i would say, make the move
[20:47] <charlvn> it's an lts release after all
[20:48] <charlvn> not_found: lol, you sound russian
[20:49] <charlvn> not_found: i just imagine this as you http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/191/809/me_gusta_mucho_by_megustamuchoplz-d416uqk.png