[00:00] <sarsaeol> Erealz replicates the utorrent interface for rtorrent backend
[00:00] <ShinyObjects> Erealz: I've never used it though so I couldn't tell you how good it is
[00:00] <brightspark> Yago, oh sorry didn't realise you were on wubi.  I don't know anything about that.
[00:00] <Yago> brightspark, yea or faster into ubuntu... is there a program that lets you edit things like these in ubuntu?
[00:00] <Yago> oh ok
[00:00] <ShinyObjects> !best | ShinyObjects
[00:00] <alecjw> aaron_samuel: that options greyed out with auto-expunge on. if i switch it off and chose move the message to the bin, that doesnt help either
[00:00] <ShinyObjects> (I wanted to see what it says)
[00:00] <kolix> Hi
[00:00] <Erealz> gosh now i dont know
[00:01] <kolix> I'm going to be running a ubuntu server version in virual box VM
[00:01]  * c_smith is starting to think that this is a question I need to ask somewhere else.
[00:01] <Erealz> the best guys
[00:01] <Erealz> oorrrr
[00:01] <sarsaeol> Erealz:  personally i would say rtorrent with rutorrent is the "best" seedbox
[00:01] <aaron_samuel> alecjw: actually seems like you want to turn auto-expunge off
[00:01] <aaron_samuel> alecjw: 'Auto-Expunge off - Wait for the client to update the server.
[00:01] <kolix> is the server edition just a stripped down version of ubuntu?
[00:01] <kolix> will it have wireless drivers?
[00:01] <c_smith> Erealz, are you seriously going against what a bot explicitly told you NOT to do?
[00:02] <MonkeyDust> Erealz  type !best to find out
[00:02] <Erealz> ok then the most popular?
[00:02] <alecjw> aaron_samuel: thats the setting i currently have set, along with move deleted items to the bin
[00:02] <genii-around> kolix: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/preparing-to-install.html#intro-server-differences
[00:03] <aaron_samuel> alecjw: do you have "Immediately delete the message forever" ?
[00:03] <Erealz> that way im not stuck with somthing that isnt active
[00:03] <ShinyObjects> Erealz: try rtorrent and see if it does everything you need
[00:03] <ShinyObjects> If it does, you'll be glad you didn't waste your time
[00:03] <alecjw> aaron_samuel: i dont want to do that, i want to safeguard against accidental deletions
[00:04] <Jordan_U> c_smith: Try http://askubuntu.com
[00:04] <alecjw> but i worked out if i actually drag messages to the "bin" folder that does the trick
[00:04] <ShinyObjects> If it doesn't, you'll get some knowledge out of it and most likely geet pointed in the right direction
[00:04] <ShinyObjects> *get
[00:04] <c_smith> Jordan_U, alright, will do.
[00:04] <aaron_samuel> alecjw: i see , do you have any weird setting in your mail client?
[00:05] <alecjw> not that i know of
[00:07] <erisVortex> hi all. i'm on lubuntu. every sound has echoes. can get to fix it. tried to explain it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1997106 anybody has any idea?
[00:08] <negroid> how do i login as root
[00:08] <escott> !root | negroid
[00:10] <brightspark> Is aptitude installed by default on the new version?
[00:11] <OerHeks> brightspark, no.
[00:12] <OerHeks> brightspark, also synaptic was removed, but you can install it as you like
[00:13] <mcored> RhythmBox hasnt touched the surface of the concept of AlbumArtist
[00:13] <zykotick9> brightspark: "aptitude safe-upgrade" ftw ;)
[00:13] <negroid> what if i dont want to use sudo and would rather just su to root the traditional way?
[00:14] <brightspark> OerHeks, what are you supposed to use to install debs then?  Ubuntu One?
[00:14] <negroid> because i usually jut like to have a root terminal open
[00:14] <negroid> rather than type sudo before every command
[00:14] <zykotick9> brightspark: dpkg installs debs?
[00:15] <negroid> what if i did sudo passwd
[00:15] <negroid> would that let me change the root password?
[00:16] <usr13> negroid: There is no root password.
[00:16] <zykotick9> !noroot | negroid
[00:16] <zykotick9> !ops | negroid offensive nick
[00:16] <brightspark> zykotick9, good point.  Does it connect to repositories (that's an honest question, I've never attempted it)?
[00:16] <negroid> the word "negroid" is not offensive
[00:17] <zykotick9> brightspark: dpkg doesn't to package resolution
[00:17] <zykotick9> s/to/do
[00:18] <negroid> !root
[00:18] <negroid> !sudo
[00:18] <negroid> !linux
[00:18] <brightspark> zykotick9, thanks.  So if I upgrade this guy, how would I download an application?  Just apt-get, or are the repositories obsolete all together?
[00:18] <negroid> !x11
[00:18] <negroid> !grep
[00:18] <motherbrain> question I have a wireless and a wired connection network connection in my computer I am wondering when I enable both of them which one takes preceedence normally
[00:18] <negroid> !man
[00:18] <Pricey> negroid: /msg ubottu something :-)
[00:18] <negroid> !fsck
[00:18] <Pricey> negroid: No need to put it all in here.
[00:18] <negroid> !/dev/random
[00:18] <negroid> !touch
[00:18] <brightspark> negroid, stop please.
[00:18] <negroid> !apt
[00:19] <Pricey> Hello negroid?
[00:19] <negroid> !noroot
[00:19] <negroid> just testing out the bot
[00:19] <negroid> !ubottu
[00:19] <negroid> !ubottu
[00:19] <Pricey> negroid: Do it in pm? :) /msg
[00:19] <FloodBot1> negroid: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:19] <negroid> !ubottu
[00:19] <zykotick9> brightspark: "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade" was my ubuntu bread-and-butter upgrade procecure.  use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to mimick the update-manager thing.
[00:20] <coffeeeeeee> hi
[00:20] <genii-around> Hm
[00:20] <motherbrain> Obviously I can shut one , or both off so I can guarantee myself everything going thru which one I want but I am just considering if both are on this would only help if it used the faster one always and only used the slower one to fall over/load balance high data rates
[00:21] <jedieaston> hello? i have a question
[00:21] <cpet> ask away
[00:21] <motherbrain> In the router I can use Quality assurances to shape the the rate of applications throughput but I was more wondering if you can some how set it all up with out touching the router ... just on a linux box with a specific program preferable gui based
[00:22] <jagginess> motherbrain, there's two systems that can bring up any interface.. dbus/NetworkManager is the default. The other is the traditional ifupdown scripts(which don't by default-- for ubuntu)
[00:22] <brightspark> zykotick9, thanks.  Are the repositories not maintained for 12.04 if no-one has aptitude or synaptic?  I understand how I would upgrade but I want to learn more about the system to which I would upgrade.
[00:22] <cpet> motherbrain: iptables can do that look into it QoS
[00:22] <jedieaston> Its about wireless adapters. Does the Netgear wna1000M work natively in 12.04
[00:22] <OerHeks> brightspark, those are not installed by default. they are available though
[00:23] <jagginess> motherbrain, http://www.amazon.com/Ubuntu-Unleashed-2012-Edition-Covering/dp/0672335786/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1338855770&sr=1-1
[00:23] <zykotick9> brightspark: apt-get and aptitude and synaptic and U.S.C. all rely on dpkg in the end ;)
[00:23] <detrix> where do I find the openssh config file? I have looked at /etc/defaults/ssh but its not there.
[00:23] <mdmkolbe> How do I adjust the font rendering options (e.g. anti-aliasing) in Ubuntu 12.04?
[00:23] <cpet> jedieaston: lets see
[00:23]  * crack05 is away (Gone)
[00:23] <motherbrain> yes, I know this but I was wondering if I enable both connections which one gets the more data rates sort of speak obviously if I was playing movies or music I would want to use my hardwired one and when I am doing other things like viewing webpages use the wireless one.
[00:23] <cpet> detrix: install the server
[00:23] <cpet> detrix: chances are you only have the client ssh not sshd
[00:23] <zykotick9> !away > CRACK05
[00:24] <detrix> cpet: apt-get says I have the server...one moment let me try again
[00:24] <jedieaston> ok. i am trying to install wubi now. its downloading the 12.04 image
[00:25] <cpet> detrix: hunt for the config in /etc/openssh/
[00:25] <detrix> cpet: yep says I have it.
[00:25] <jagginess> jedieaston, if you can, avoid wubi.. people end up installing the real thing.. try to backup your windows data, and use gparted live cd to make 2 more partitions (one for / and one for swap)
[00:25] <detrix> cpet: ok
[00:25] <zykotick9> jedieaston: fyi, when you just mentioned wubi i automatically typed "/ignore jedieaston" others might do the same?
[00:25] <skiphuffman> Someone on here helped me yesterday with a WiFi connection issue.  If s/he is on, I would like to offer thanks.
[00:25] <brightspark> OerHeks, yes, but if only the few users who install synaptic/aptitude are using them, I'm wondering what the canonical way is to get new programs- if that is to google the package you want, then having aptitude is no good if the repositories don't contain software compatible with the latest release.
[00:26] <jagginess> jedieaston, i've helped someone today fix their windows boot.. the ubuntu installer adds a boot option for windows automatically
[00:26] <jedieaston> well the only reason i am trying to use wubi is to test my hardware, like this usb adapter
[00:26] <jagginess> jedieaston, ok
[00:26] <jedieaston> for wireless i mean
[00:26] <jagginess> jedieaston, but what's the usb adapter?
[00:26] <cpet> jedieaston: chances are your usb adapter doesnt work in Ubuntu
[00:26] <skiphuffman> Naw, Straight Ubuntu 12.04  with an hp laptop
[00:26] <jedieaston> its a netgear WNA1000M
[00:27] <cpet> jedieaston: google it
[00:27] <gr33n7007h> Is there a marjhong game in ubuntu?
[00:27] <zykotick9> !google > cpet
[00:27] <OerHeks> brightspark, there is USC ubuntu software centre. what's the real problem?
[00:28] <zykotick9> cpet: if you had said "duckduckgo it" i wouldn't have had an issue ;)
[00:28] <cpet> zykotick9: pesky one arn't you ?
[00:28] <tms> Oi Boa Noite
[00:28] <tms> alguem poderia me ajudar por favor ??
[00:28] <cpet> !language > tms
[00:29] <pc-moon> i wanna software do like adobe after effects is free
[00:29] <tms> OI vc poderia me ajudar por favor ??
[00:29] <jagginess> jedieaston, you may as well try to install ubuntu natively, this feedback was reported a year ago.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1806839
[00:29] <gr33n7007h> Is there a marjhong game in ubuntu?
[00:29] <motherbrain> thanks for the book but I already know that and ubuntu very well and in the network gui settings there is no way that I can see to determine which connection is useing what and restrict it to more then just a BBSID or MAC without going thru the router settings or setting up a local router table
[00:29] <jagginess> jedieaston, so your usb device works with any linux (not just ubuntu)
[00:29] <cpet> gr33n7007h: apt-cache search marjhong
[00:29] <zykotick9> cpet: you probably meant !english - or was the swearing in another language?
[00:29] <gr33n7007h> cpet, thanks
[00:29] <motherbrain> just wondering if there was a simple program to determine if the wireless and wired connections are working optimally together
[00:29] <cpet> zykotick9: .!english
[00:30] <jagginess> motherbrain, are you human? You're asking a new question every 30 seconds.. this is spamming..
[00:30] <jagginess> (and nobody has been answering him)
[00:30] <cpet> motherbrain: it is rather a pain to have fail over setup in Ubuntu
[00:30] <jedieaston> I do have 1 desktop and one Laptop with Ubuntu 12.04.
[00:30] <pc-moon> i wanna software do like adobe after effects is free
[00:30] <cpet> gimp?
[00:31] <pc-moon> no gimp for photos only
[00:31] <jedieaston> pc-moon i dont think there is any alternative to Adobe After Effects that is A. for ubuntu B. Free
[00:31] <motherbrain> " motherbrain: it is rather a pain to have fail over setup in Ubuntu" so is there no good software for doing this
[00:31] <cpet> jagginess: I once sent my cv to someone posting for sys admin work, he replied with "I did nt give you permission to send me your cv and this is called spamming" is this what the world is coming too now?
[00:32] <skiphuffman> cpet, maybe he wasn't hiring, just whining.
[00:32] <cpet> This was on a forum
[00:32] <jagginess> cpet, seems to me you didnt send your cv to a real company.
[00:32] <jagginess> lol
[00:33] <jedieaston> Thanks for the help. I will try to install ubuntu natively after i try wubi to make sure that i have support on everything else
[00:33] <cpet> jedieaston: install ubuntu in a VM
[00:33] <jagginess> jedieaston, actually i can tell you right now, that your wifi will work with that usb (that report is a year old)
[00:33] <cpet> save the hassle of installing, partitoning, etc..
[00:33] <cpet> jagginess: possibly but I need work :(
[00:34] <cpet> er needed*
[00:34] <skiphuffman> cpet, where are you?
[00:34] <jagginess> jedieaston, but you can try wubi if you are unsure of the audio and video.. these are the other two devices that if its not automagic then it may be a pita to correct
[00:34] <cpet> skiphuffman: msg me
[00:34] <jedieaston> Wow thanks. I am running xp right now. In a vm i would not be able to test my wireless card
[00:34] <jagginess> jedieaston, vm?
[00:34] <jagginess> jedieaston, wubi is not a vm
[00:34] <erisVortex> hi again, could anybody help me with this issue? http://askubuntu.com/questions/146552/lubuntu-12-04-every-sound-has-echoes
[00:35] <cpet> erisVortex: disable pulseaudio
[00:35] <cpet> erisVortex: see if that fixes your issue
[00:35] <erisVortex> cpet, already tried it removing it. doesn't work.
[00:35] <jagginess> jedieaston, it's a near-native install.. near-native because the "/" mountpoint (the heart of linux'es file system) is not directly from a new partition, but "within" a file on "top" of ntfs (so basically it's 1 file on your windows filesystem, and it'll be more than 4 gigs big)
[00:36] <tms> alguem me ajuda
[00:36] <jedieaston> i know. Someone sugessted that i should try a VM
[00:36] <zykotick9> erisVortex: disabling pulse has some far reaching effects, it's not generally a good idea to try that.
[00:36] <jagginess> jedieaston, that won't guarantee it'll work natively..
[00:36] <jagginess> jedieaston, wubi would..
[00:37] <jagginess> jedieaston, wubi is safe.. but native is less safe (that's why i suggest to backup your data if you're doing a real native install)
[00:37] <tms> POR FAVOR
[00:37] <erisVortex> zykotick9, yes. I removed to try to fix it, but it didn't. so I installed it again.
[00:37] <jedieaston> i have no data on this laptop. i am just messing around with the laptop.
[00:38] <jagginess> jedieaston, well you can always resize ntfs even after you shrink it..
[00:38] <jagginess> jedieaston, (gparted live cd can do this)
[00:38] <jedieaston> i would. The HDD is 40GBs big
[00:38] <jagginess> jedieaston, (and you can always re-inject the xp mbr bootcode with paragon rescue kit or the xp installer cd)
[00:39] <jagginess> jedieaston, so shrink xp's partition to 20 gig, and create a 19gig + 1 gig swap..
[00:39] <jedieaston> So i would rather have one OS at a time
[00:39] <jedieaston> But if Ubuntu works i will switch to that
[00:40] <jagginess> jedieaston, i'm not stopping you.. do whatever you want
[00:40] <jedieaston> I do like Ubuntu. As i said, i have 2 computers running it
[00:40] <erisVortex> zykotick9, any ideas?
[00:41] <jedieaston> wubi wants me to reboot!
[00:41] <zykotick9> erisVortex: no sorry.  but disabling pulse is a bad idea for gnome/unity.
[00:42] <motherbrain> ok if I cann't setup failover easy on ubuntu or it is a bit over kill I am still curious of a good stress test/ load balancing program so I can put my machine to the test for networking as well as other devices in my system... Anybody have any suggestions about a GUI / console program that I could use that is really really good for linux distros
[00:42] <jagginess> jedieaston, for the record, laptops are more problematic than desktops..
[00:42] <jagginess> jedieaston, but its your laptop so wipe out xp if you want..
[00:43] <zykotick9> jagginess: they "can be" but my eee1005 is perfect with free drivers...
[00:43] <motherbrain> I have heard recently of stress the commandline utility but don't know about if there is better and for the network
[00:43] <jagginess> motherbrain, you seem new to everything.. if you want to ask these questions, i strongly suggest ##linux (i can help you on there too)
[00:43] <jagginess> motherbrain, google:"List of software <type> site:wikipedia.org"
[00:46] <motherbrain> ya, but I cann't send to that channel since I cann't get the register my nickname to work yet
[00:47] <cpet> motherbrain: /msg nickserv register nick pass pass
[00:47] <cpet> motherbrain: /msg nickserv identify pass
[00:47] <cpet> motherbrain: it is not rocket science ;/
[00:49] <jagginess> he has to check his email too.
[00:50] <jagginess> motherbrain, ^
[00:50] <cpet> jagginess: yeah thats where it gets difficult
[00:52] <myhero> how to recover files on ubuntu ?
[00:53] <cpet> myhero: depends what has happened to those files
[00:53] <skiphuffman> If you just deleted them from yourdesktop they should be in your recycling bin.
[00:54] <skiphuffman> Of course life is rarely that simple.
[00:54] <myhero> cpet: i accidently deleted a txt file from usb....want to recover it now...
[00:54] <phr> :o
[00:54] <cpet> myhero: check trash if it's not there then start crying :)
[00:55] <myhero> cpet: anything else other then crying...?
[00:55] <safebin> myhero: yeah you can recover it
[00:55] <cpet> myhero: what safebin said
[00:55] <skiphuffman> How did you delete it?  rm?
[00:55] <javier_teli> hi
[00:56] <keanne> not if he deleted it using rm there is .Thash folder to recover to
[00:56] <cpet> javier_teli: Brazil?
[00:56] <wingie> anyone recalls what the word they were using for the programs in Tron the movie? was it bots?
[00:57] <skiphuffman> "programs"
[00:57] <cpet> javier_teli: Donde vives?
[00:57] <gr33n7007h> myhero, what filesystem is your usb using?
[00:57] <naryfa> Hi
[00:57] <wingie> skiphuffman: you are sure?
[00:57] <safebin> photorec - can recover not only pics but other files as well
[00:57] <naryfa> Does anybody use mocp here?
[00:58] <wingie> skiphuffman: http://tron.wikia.com/wiki/Program
[00:58] <skiphuffman> wingie, Well, it had been more than twenty years since I saw it, but I think so
[00:58] <wingie> i guess you are right
[00:58] <naryfa> or maybe I'll ask a different way, is it possible to start mocp with a launcher shortcut?
[00:58] <zykotick9> safebin: agreed.  photorec ftw.  but i'm not sure about it's ext3/4 success?
[00:58] <wingie> skiphuffman: haven't seen the latest one? :)
[00:58] <Jef91> Does apturl work for anyone here using 12.04? It is simply closing out here when I press "install" for a given package. Running it from terminal gives no useful output.
[00:58] <skiphuffman> wingie,  Nope
[00:59] <naryfa> or any other terminal application?
[00:59] <dr1337> hey guys
[01:00] <dr1337> was wondering if anyone has managed to set up ubuntu with kernel efi stub booting?
[01:00] <naryfa> forget it, I figured it out lol
[01:01] <KRomo> what browser oes eveyone use? firefox of chrome/chromium?
[01:01] <cpet> chrome
[01:01] <gr33n7007h> firefox
[01:02] <KRomo> im having a prob where some pages in chromearent formatted properly
[01:02] <skiphuffman> Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Silk, IE7, IE8, IE9, Safari, and sometimes Lynx
[01:02] <zykotick9> cpet: i'm not sure what/who that "chrome" statement was directed too.  but do you mean google-chrome?
[01:02] <KRomo> like on newegg the buynow button is in the wrong place
[01:03] <KRomo> http://iloveubuntu.net/humble-indie-bundle-sells-10000-bundles-first-72-hours-after-ubuntu-announcement
[01:03] <KRomo> on that article its formatted badlt on chrome
[01:03] <jagginess> KRomo, chrome/chromium is still like a beta browser.. use firefox.
[01:03] <KRomo> ff its fine
[01:03] <WilsonBradley> After a recent update , I am getting Segfault with many things.. apt-update , synaptics, Update Manager, etc      I have same problem when loggin in with different account, so I figured my past backups of my whole Home directory restore wouldn't help..  was right.
[01:03] <cpet> WilsonBradley: check the pc for ram issue
[01:04] <skiphuffman> Looks fine on Chrome 19 to me
[01:04] <KRomo> imon chrome 22 i think
[01:04] <WilsonBradley> PC Ram issue?
[01:04] <cpet> KRomo: same here
[01:04] <zykotick9> WilsonBradley: in a terminal type "groups" are you a member of "sudo" or "admin" on older systems?
[01:04] <WilsonBradley> I researched online for hours no luch
[01:04] <KRomo> 21
[01:04] <KRomo> cpet, is the formatting bad on that link?
[01:04] <skiphuffman> KRomo, That means you are on a beta/unstable version.
[01:05] <cpet> nope
[01:05] <CarlFK> is there a ppa with some stable skype?
[01:05] <WilsonBradley> Im root
[01:05] <KRomo> yeah, i was able to run the chrome nightlies on win7 without issue
[01:06] <OldOneEye> how do i move user dkg to admin group
[01:07] <CarlFK> OldOneEye: gui or command?
[01:07] <OldOneEye> command
[01:07] <KRomo> will this command in terminal keep all my software up to date?   http://iloveubuntu.net/humble-indie-bundle-sells-10000-bundles-first-72-hours-after-ubuntu-announcement
[01:07] <KRomo> woops
[01:07] <gr33n7007h> OldOneEye, useradd -G {group-name} username
[01:07] <KRomo> will this command in terminal keep all my software up to date?   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:08] <OldOneEye> username already exists
[01:08] <CarlFK> OldOneEye: adduser USER GROUP;    Add an existing user to an existing group
[01:08] <zykotick9> OldOneEye: from what you're currently asking.  all i have to say is.  i don't think you're doing it right.
[01:08] <jagginess> KRomo, doesnt "keep", it's a 1-time pass, "apt-get update" updates the index of available software
[01:09] <KRomo> yeah
[01:09] <cpet> KRomo: ubuntu should auto update itself
[01:09] <zykotick9> OldOneEye: why? are you trying to move dpkg to admin?
[01:09] <cpet> if you are using server it doesn't but can be made too
[01:09] <WilsonBradley> Could someone help me..
[01:09] <WilsonBradley> After a recent update , I am getting Segfault with many things.. apt-update , synaptics, Update Manager, etc      I have same problem when loggin in with different account, so I figured my past backups of my whole Home directory restore wouldn't help..  was right.
[01:10] <KRomo> the updates that ubuntu offers isnt just system updates, its installed programs too?
[01:10] <skiphuffman> If you need update to run regularally just set up a chron job
[01:10] <KRomo> like, it will update libre office and such?
[01:10] <detrix> Hello all. is there something special needed to ssh via ipv6?  I have change the sshd_config file to listen to ::  but still cant connect.
[01:10] <OldOneEye> wats the install c compliler command
[01:10] <cpet> skiphuffman: in some weird circumstances that could cause some issues
[01:10] <OldOneEye> build essentals i think?
[01:11] <cpet> detrix: does your isp allow v6 ?
[01:11] <skiphuffman> cpet, well, that is why it is preferable to just run it manually as needed.
[01:11] <cpet> detrix: possibly need a tunnel
[01:11] <zykotick9> !info build-essential > OldOneEye
[01:11] <detrix> cpet: yes, but I am trying to ssh to a local link
[01:12] <cpet> detrix: do you have an v6 ip ?
[01:12] <detrix> cpet: yes
[01:12] <cpet> and you can't connect
[01:12] <detrix> correct....
[01:12] <cpet> what is the command you are using to connect ?
[01:12] <cpet> ssh ....
[01:12] <detrix> I get the following error: ssh: Could not resolve hostname fe80::2/2242: Name or service not known
[01:13] <detrix> cpet: 2242 is port #
[01:13] <cpet> try ssh -6
[01:13] <cpet> ssh -6 chris@slappy.local -p 23221
[01:14] <cpet> detrix: and for the love of jebs read the man pages !
[01:14] <detrix> I did
[01:15] <cpet> you read the man page or you tried -6
[01:16] <cpet> wonder
[01:16] <KRomo> i just updated the chrome nightly and the formatting issues are fixed
[01:16] <detrix> I read the -6 option, but figure to do it if only necessary. -6 forces, ssh should recognize an ipv6 address and use ipv6 with out -6
[01:16] <KRomo> yay google
[01:16] <detrix> but if I must I will
[01:16] <edinny> grub is updating.  The device should I install Grub on? The drive (/dev/sda) or the partition (/dev/sda1).
[01:17] <edinny> grub is updating.  Which device should I install Grub on? The drive (/dev/sda) or the partition (/dev/sda1).
[01:18] <CarlFK> what is the dpkg like command that installs dependencies too?  gdeb-something...
[01:18] <cpet> detrix: I am hunting code to see if ssh default to -4
[01:18] <zykotick9> edinny: sda is the mbr, if you used sda# it's called something else - and i wouldn't recommend it!!!
[01:18] <detrix> cpet: thanks
[01:18] <edinny> zykotick9: so it goes on the MBR.  It has been a long time for me lol
[01:19] <zykotick9> edinny: "typically" yes
[01:19] <edinny> I used to know this stuff
[01:20] <detrix> cpet: now I am getting this error:  ssh: Could not resolve hostname fe80::2/2242: Name or service not known
[01:20] <detrix> I mean this error: ssh: connect to host fe80::2 port 2242: Invalid argument
[01:20] <skiphuffman> zykotick9,   Yeah, if you want it to "work"
[01:20] <cpet> detrix: v6 ip seems iffy
[01:21] <cpet> detrix: i think you are forgeting to add -p for port
[01:21] <cpet> if this is local try ::1
[01:21] <zykotick9> could someone PM me an ubottu factoid please.
[01:21] <detrix> cpet: everything I have read says that as of this year, link local address start with fe80::
[01:22] <cpet> so I guess ssh is dumb then and just spiting out random errors to annoy you !
[01:22] <skiphuffman> There's no place like 127.0.0.0, there's no place like ::1
[01:22] <detrix> cpet: I used -p 2242
[01:22] <detrix> cpet: must be a full moon then
[01:23] <cpet> detrix: ifconfig what v6 ip do you have ?
[01:23] <detrix> cpet: 3 v6 address: inet6 addr: fe80::da5d:4cff:fedd:b8fe/64 Scope:Link
[01:23] <detrix>           inet6 addr: fe80::1/112 Scope:Link
[01:23] <detrix>           inet6 addr: 2602:100:18e7:9322::1/64 Scope:Global
[01:25] <cpet> detrix: ping6 one of those ips see if you get replys
[01:26] <detrix> cpet...ok
[01:28] <cheako> http://www.mikemestnik.net/cgi-bin/bootcharts.html  I didn't delete them, I shared them.
[01:29] <cpet> cheako: congrats
[01:29] <cpet> detrix: did you lose something ?
[01:29] <detrix> ping is not connecting.  trying to figure out why
[01:29] <cpet> well then
[01:30] <cpet> you have found the issue
[01:30] <cpet> possibly iptables of some sort ?
[01:33] <ceti331__> can unity be made to display an icon per desktop in the launcher bar
[01:33] <ceti331__> e.g. one click to get to a desktop
[01:34] <ceti331__> the ideal would be some evolution of the old desktop thumbnail buttons
[01:34] <cappicard> hey folks. has ubuntu fixed that annoying bug of the choppy sound coming from pulseaudio in 12.04?
[01:35] <cappicard> i keep having to kill pulseaudio and let it respawn every 30 minutes or so.
[01:36] <nicolas> MediaTomb UI is disabled. Check your configuration.
[01:36] <nicolas> ?????? help
[01:38] <nicolas> MediaTomb UI is disabled. Check your configuration. [03:36] <nicolas> ?????? help
[01:38] <A2GJeff> hello all, I'm having an issue with Ubuntu right now
[01:38] <A2GJeff> anytime I attempt to apt-get
[01:38] <A2GJeff> E: Internal Error, No file name for libssl1.0.0. is the error I recieve
[01:39] <A2GJeff> I was told previously to run the command sudo dpkg --configure --pending
[01:39] <OldOneEye> is it possible to make my external ip that of my domain?
[01:39] <A2GJeff> and that should fix it, however, now I am recieving this... sudo dpkg --configure --pending
[01:39] <A2GJeff> sorry I meant: http://pastebin.com/pbPX44dk
[01:39] <nicolas> and me ???
[01:40] <nicolas> MediaTomb UI is disabled. Check your configuration.
[01:40] <cpet> OldOneEye: ?
[01:40] <cpet> nicolas: fail
[01:40] <OldOneEye> i got a domain its linked to my ip
[01:40] <cpet> ok
[01:40] <nicolas> i dont no hou to do this thing
[01:40] <nicolas> it is new for me$
[01:40] <cpet> OldOneEye: you need to set a ptr record for the IP
[01:40] <cpet> OldOneEye: then you can irc as @slappyjoe.com
[01:41] <OldOneEye> i wanna make eggs running on my machine to be the domain hostname
[01:41] <myhero> how to recover files on ubuntu ?
[01:42] <cpet> OldOneEye: ok i doubt you have a ptr record for those "eggs" to conect with the domain
[01:42] <myhero> how to recover files on ubuntu ?
[01:42] <cpet> OldOneEye: i take it this is a dynip account that is used ?
[01:42] <cpet> myhero: stop the damn repeating
[01:42] <myhero> cpet: u go n cry....
[01:43] <aaron_samuel>  recovering files generally assumes you have a backup
[01:43] <cpet> myhero: no one respondes becuase 1. they don't know 2. you dont do what they ask so you are ignored
[01:43] <escott> !undelete | myhero
[01:43] <myhero> escott: no undelete option available...
[01:44] <cpet> myhero: then you are doomed
[01:44] <myhero> aaron_samuel: to bad luck it was the backup which was lost during updation
[01:44] <nicolas> kan somwan help me pleas
[01:44] <aaron_samuel> your SOL then - the ONLY other way thats somewhat logical is if some process had a file descriptor open on whatever it is
[01:44] <aaron_samuel> but thts way less than likely
[01:46] <aaron_samuel> this is why people move backups off the system they are backing up
[01:46] <aaron_samuel> or if it is a backup system - they use redundancy/snapshots or etc
[01:46] <cpet> or use RAID which is better than nothing but backups should always be done in various places
[01:46] <aaron_samuel> right
[01:47] <nicolas> MediaTomb UI is disabled. Check your configuration. ?????? help
[01:47] <nicolas> what do i hef to do
[01:47] <aaron_samuel> and RAID is lowlevel data protection  - not for restoring files - but it is good practive to have many layers of redundancy and there are actually different places to have redundancy, eg controller, hard drives (raid), etc
[01:48] <nicolas> hello
[01:48] <aaron_samuel> but thats all good for - before data loss, all of that will do nothing to bring back something that was deleted already
[01:48] <cpet> hi
[01:48] <nicolas> i need help
[01:48] <cpet> aaron_samuel: hence why I backup to 2-3 places
[01:49] <cpet> nicolas: hrm
[01:49] <cpet> !help
[01:49] <cpet> !help > nicolas
[01:49] <aaron_samuel> right on cpet =)
[01:50] <nicolas> ok sorry$
[01:50] <myhero> sorry i got disconnected
[01:50] <cpet> !patience @ nicolas
[01:51] <cpet> !patience nicolas
[01:51] <cpet> any who
[01:52] <Blue1> ubottu so it would not be fair to ask you why is there air?
[01:52] <aaron_samuel> !air
[01:52] <cpet> fail
[01:52] <cpet> !fail
[01:52] <aaron_samuel> womp womp
[01:53] <cpet> this bot sucks ;/
[01:53] <myhero> aaron_samuel: any other way of recovery....?
[01:54] <aaron_samuel> no
[01:54] <myhero> :(
[01:54] <cpet> !sol
[01:54] <jgalt> how can I get ma new atheros usb nic assoiiated and authed (wep)  o my network.  rurning 12.04lts
[01:54] <aaron_samuel> myhero: what exactly happend?
[01:54] <myhero> aaron_samuels: third party recovery softwares ?
[01:54] <jgalt> nic is a
[01:54] <cpet> jgalt: use the network applet should be an icon that looks like a PC right click on that
[01:54] <aaron_samuel> myhero: what exactly happend?
[01:54] <cpet> setup wireless
[01:55] <myhero> aaron_samuels: i was updating a txt file backup and acciddently i ddeleted it...
[01:55] <cpet> !repeat > aaron_samuel
[01:55] <aaron_samuel> i think it was legitimate - more important than recovery software i would like to know what occured that caused data loss
[01:55] <aaron_samuel> but thanks for the generic
[01:55] <jgalt> cpet: been there, net happening.  sometging is nothtaking
[01:55] <cpet> jgalt: msg me
[01:56] <sacarlson> jgalt: most atheros I would think are supported,  can you at least see wifi stations in the list in network manager?
[01:56] <aaron_samuel> so again myhero can you let us know what occurred in this "upgrade" that caused some data to be lost?
[01:57] <sacarlson> myhero: oh you only lost 1 file?  I would think you could recover that
[01:58] <aaron_samuel> without a backup why would one file be different from a whole disk?
[01:58] <guest-GShaMe> hi, I just ran ubuntu update, then after reboot I can't login via gdm.    the password is accepted but screen blinks and gdm restarts . I tried another invalid pass but validation failed so it's not a password problem any ideas?
[02:00] <aaron_samuel> myhero: i use deja-dup to run backups on my ubuntu desktop, it can be configured to write the backup to multiple locations, it does incremental backups (more or less) so in that case you can restore, you can configure it to backup specific folders etc, i use it and backup to ubuntu one
[02:01] <jgalt> sacarlson: Imade damn  wellwsure it wa  a supportsd nic prioe to purchare.  a bit sf sluthingoshows it as a ar9170 which i0 supported.  I.do not see any networkorks but that proaably does not say much as  live in arural area where houses are euarter to qalf mile apart
[02:02] <sacarlson> jgalt: you do have your own home wifi access point don't you
[02:03] <myhero_> sorry i again got disconnected...
[02:03] <myhero_> aaron_samuels: i was updating the backup txt file frm the new file....what i did was ctrl+A then ctrl+x frm the new file and immediately closed the new file saving it....and then i pasted that data into the backup file and saved it...now i was deleteing the empty new file but instead in the flow of work i accidently deleted the old backup....so the old backup txt file with all the data is ddeleted and i m left  with the new empty txt file....
[02:03] <jagginess> myhero_, that's weird, i thought backup stuff was automated
[02:03] <sacarlson> jgalt: then I guess you should try in a term iwconfig ;   and see if the device is seen at all or sudo lshw;  and see if the device is seen by the system
[02:04] <KM0201> jgalt: what version of ubuntu?  the 9170 should "just work" (least it did for me)
[02:05] <myhero_> aaron_samuels: now what to do ?
[02:05] <myhero_> jagginess: no...i dont have much for the backup so i do it manually....
[02:06] <jgalt> sacarlson.: looked aready.  lslsb shows it contected, dnesg shows refirences to it, lsmod shows the modsles are loaded...
[02:06] <myhero_> sorry i am disconnecting all the time...
[02:06] <sacarlson> jgalt: ok then maybe your problem is on the wifi access point side?
[02:06] <jgalt> KM0201: runnng 12.04 LiTS
[02:07] <jagginess> myhero_, moral of the lesson->next time use "ctl-c".. preventing cutting
[02:07] <aaron_samuel> myhero_: there is really no solution - the data is gone, you copied into a paste buffer used the buffer and deleted the old file, some programs like office create backups but all dont and some like vim require configuration to make backups, so again sorry but there is not much you can do
[02:07] <aaron_samuel> next time just copy the file to a backup...
[02:07] <aaron_samuel> cp file file.bkup
[02:07] <sacarlson> jgalt: any other systems around to verify that you have a working wifi access point?
[02:07] <myhero_> ok
[02:07] <KRomo> do firewire cards serve a purpose anymore?
[02:08] <KRomo> or is the port dead?
[02:08] <jgalt> scarlson: shouldn't be, I'm using wifi on the same ap for this webchat
[02:08] <jagginess> KRomo, usb3. it's still kind of a new kid on the block.
[02:08] <jgalt> I think the problem is in getting associated and authed
[02:09] <aaron_samuel> jgalt: they have this iwevents program that's pretty cool for snooping issues like such
[02:09] <joint> whats a good distro based on ubuntu?
[02:10] <andrewaclt> ubuntu
[02:10] <heroandtn3> Linux Mint
[02:10] <jagginess> joint, mandela
[02:10] <myhero_> aaron_samuel: i did installed dell recovery app frm software center...and it is showing the deleted file...and its also recovering it but when recovering the file it saves it on desktop but there is no file created on desktop...however the file is shown in terminal as present on desktop
[02:10] <KM0201> joint: why not just use ubuntu?
[02:10] <joint> i dont like mint
[02:10] <jagginess> joint, actually i got my head backwards.. it's ubuntu on mandela (see wikipedia on ubuntu)
[02:10] <jagginess> joint, do you like mandela?
[02:11] <joint> i have to check that one out
[02:11] <aaron_samuel> myhero_: is it hidden?
[02:11] <jgalt> iis wireless-tools included in the base 12.04 install?
[02:11] <jagginess> joint, mandela -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_philosophy
[02:11] <myhero_> i tried ctrl+h but then also its not showing
[02:11] <jagginess> joint, he's better than myhero_
[02:11] <joint> when is zorin os 6 final going to be released?
[02:12] <joint> thats going to be based on ubuntu 12.04
[02:12] <aaron_samuel> myhero_: how are you seeing it in terminal? with ls command?
[02:12] <myhero_> jagginess: i think u r the best....others all r same
[02:12] <myhero_> aaron_samuel: yes
[02:12] <aaron_samuel> myhero_: ls in what location?
[02:13] <myhero_> aaron_samuel: ls Desktop
[02:14] <aaron_samuel> ubuntu has a setting to not show files on the desktop i believe - that may be the deal you can still open it if it's there
[02:14] <aaron_samuel> myhero_: i am not sure what type of file it is,, but you can try xdg-open Desktop/filename - where you replace filename with the actual files name
[02:15] <joint> whats the besk desk top for ubuntu?
[02:15] <easypi> i have a server that accepts other computers only if their pub key is in the authorized file. otherwise, it denies all access. how would it be possible to append a new pub key for a new computer so it can login to the server if i can't from that computer? do i need to temporarily disable authorized key access on the server and then ssh-copy pub key to that server. is this the only way?
[02:15] <joint> best
[02:15] <KM0201> !best | joint
[02:15] <myhero_> aaron_samuel: i tried recoveringthe file in other location but the same problem its not being shown....i even tired recovering in same location but its saying to overwrite means the file is present but then hpw tp access it ?
[02:15] <joint> that doesnt help
[02:15] <aaron_samuel> myhero_: did you do the xdg-open yet?
[02:16] <KM0201> joint: the point is, stop polling the channels, if you want answers, use google
[02:16] <myhero_> aaron_samuel: its a txt file...n i will try the command u specified...
[02:16] <aaron_samuel> easypi: do it from a computer with access?
[02:16] <aaron_samuel> myhero_: simply cat the file then
[02:16] <aaron_samuel> cat Desktop/filename
[02:16] <myhero_> aaron_samuel: cat means ?
[02:16] <aaron_samuel> the command to use
[02:16] <joint> google just tells me about 100 different desktop environments
[02:17] <myhero_> aaron_samuel: ok
[02:17] <KM0201> joint: then you have a lot of reading to do
[02:17] <joint> thanks... you are very helpfulo
[02:17] <joint> always good to have people like you around
[02:17] <KM0201> joint: then ask questions that pertain to ubuntu, and follow the channel rules
[02:17] <aaron_samuel> it would be less helpful to give you an opinion on an apparent wide range of options
[02:17] <joint> whats a good desk top environment for ubuntu?
[02:18] <kolix> Hi guys, I'm having a problem with some packages
[02:18] <aaron_samuel> or worst cause a DE war in #ubuntu with everyone telling you why their silly DE is the best
[02:18] <KM0201> aaron_samuel: exactly...
[02:19] <kolix> unmet dependencies "libjpeg-turbo8-dev: conflicst libjpeg62-dev but 6b1-2ubuntu1 is to be installed
[02:19] <kolix> any ideas?
[02:19] <joint> thanks guys
[02:19] <jagginess> joint, try not to be a clickhead thank you
[02:19] <joint> bunch of useless noobs
[02:20] <aaron_samuel> kolix: decide if you need that library for anything and if so if it can withstand an update if so update it to the version it's requesting
[02:20] <KM0201> joint: we're noobs, and you're asking "what is the best desktop environment"..lol, move along son
[02:20] <kolix> how can i update it?
[02:20] <kolix> yes i do need the library
[02:20] <jagginess> joint, mandela. remember that name.. he started the real ubuntu.
[02:20] <Nom-> Hey Guys... was wondering if there's a good example somewhere of injecting a script to be run on boot as part of the ubuntu installer?
[02:20] <joint> sorry i didnt mean to break the rules of the channel by asking about ubuntu desktop environments
[02:20] <aaron_samuel> kolix: read whole sentence =)
[02:20] <myhero_> aaron_samuel: u r the hero of the day....
[02:20] <jagginess> joint, go read up on that wikipedia page and learn something boy.
[02:20] <KM0201> joint: thats not breaking the rules.. polling people about them is
[02:21] <kolix> aaron_samuel, ?
[02:21] <aaron_samuel> myhero_: i think not
[02:21] <aaron_samuel> kolix: you need the library for what? an app?
[02:21] <joint> lol. why dont you just say... i dont know... or personally, i like unity.. or i like gnome 3 shell
[02:21] <myhero_> aaron_samuel: but i think so....thnx a lot....
[02:21] <kolix> opencv
[02:21] <KRomo> im using ubuntu for 2 weeks and i still click on the trash thinking im clicking on a start button
[02:21] <WilsonBradley> What would happen if I downloaded Quantel 12.10 live iso , and reinstalled it?
[02:21] <aaron_samuel> myhero_: sure buddy =)
[02:21] <joint> learn how to communicate... it makes things enjoyable
[02:21] <KM0201> joint: because one, it's an opinion, i have mine... and as pointed out, polling is against the channel rules... so "why don't you just .. follow the rules"
[02:22] <aaron_samuel> kolix: ok and can opencv use the library you see in the proposed change?
[02:22] <myhero_> aaron_samuel: both xdg n cat did the job....xdg was better it opened the document..and cat opened it in terminal
[02:22] <kolix> i don't know
[02:22] <kolix> I'm new to this
[02:22] <kolix> I'm a programmer, not a sys admin lol
[02:22] <aaron_samuel> myhero_: this is why i wanted you to use xdg-open , it should open the relevant program based on file type or mime type or w/e
[02:22] <jagginess> KM0201 he then called the whole channel a bunch of useless noobs
[02:22] <aaron_samuel> kolix: thats actually what you should know if your a developer...
[02:22] <KRomo> is it possible to get my middle button to work on my mouse?
[02:22] <myhero_> aaron_samuel: ok....
[02:23] <WilsonBradley> What would happen if I downloaded Quantel 12.10 live iso , and reinstalled it?
[02:23] <KM0201> jagginess: yeah, i saw that.. he's trolling, and not doing a good job of it
[02:23] <jagginess> WilsonBradley, no need to spam that same question..
[02:23] <aaron_samuel> kolix: but thats beyond the point, you need to find out the app notes for opencv or whatever and see what libs it is compatible with or you will break one app to fix the other
[02:24] <joint> well whatever you do.. dont get a job as a salesman
[02:24] <myhero_> aaron_samuel: can u contact u later on if i have any queries ?
[02:25] <aaron_samuel> i dont mind if i am around.
[02:25] <KRomo> my middle moue button does nothing on ubuntu?
[02:25] <myhero_> aaron_samuel: sorry i mean may I ?
[02:25] <KRomo> i like to click andauto scroll, is this possibe?
[02:25] <veryhappy> hey guys i installed netbeans under ubuntu but i got no shortcut to start it what can i do now?
[02:25] <aaron_samuel> lol - im not an english nhazi or anythinh myhero_
[02:26] <jagginess> KRomo, usually the middle button works for common mice, if it doesnt work, you "may" be able to get it to.
[02:26] <myhero_> aaron_samuel: i meant if i mail u ?
[02:26] <KRomo> i dont see a setting in mouse settings
[02:26] <KRomo> its a cheap $20 m$ bluetrack mouse
[02:26] <jagginess> KRomo, this isn't a distro-related issue, more of an X-setup issue.. (or possibly udev)
[02:26] <myhero_> aaron_samuel: lol
[02:26] <WilsonBradley> Hello
[02:27] <aaron_samuel> veryhappy: did you try to locate it via the app grid search feature?
[02:27] <jagginess> KRomo, bluetooth? that can be tricky..
[02:27] <aaron_samuel> veryhappy: the one that pops up when you hit the WIN button
[02:28] <veryhappy> ah ok
[02:28] <aaron_samuel> myhero_: i dont mind really.
[02:28] <veryhappy> yea i did
[02:28] <myhero_> aaron_samuel: using cat...some lines of the document got buried in the terminal window...how to see msgs buried under the terminal window ?
[02:28] <veryhappy> i tried
[02:28] <veryhappy> nothing.
[02:28] <aaron_samuel> myhero_: use less or more (pagers) you pipe the output to less or more from cat
[02:29] <aaron_samuel> myhero_: less Desktop/filename OR more Desktop/filename OR cat Desktop/filename | less OR cat Desktop/filename | more
[02:29] <myhero_> aaron_samuel: thnx mate...i think i'll learn a lot...just guide the path...plz pm ur mail id...
[02:30] <aaron_samuel> lol ok myhero_ .
[02:30] <jagginess> myhero_, you can use shift-pgup  (this is bash and the screen cache is limitted-- if you want to have a 'search' feature, you can use other a binary viewer like 'less' or 'more')
[02:30] <myhero_> aaron_samuel: :)
[02:30] <myhero_> jagginess: thnx...i'll try
[02:33] <aaron_samuel> i love 'screen' for scrollback the most though - amongst other things
[02:34] <aaron_samuel> veryhappy: some apps just dont install shortcuts you may need to manually put one, how did you install netbeans?
[02:35] <veryhappy> i downloaded the netbeans version from the netbeans.org site and installed the tar.gz version
[02:35] <reisio> aaron_samuel: oh yeah?
[02:35] <reisio> aaron_samuel: observe this nonsense! :p http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQr42LjaNCY
[02:36] <aaron_samuel> veryhappy: so you just did the drop and install -  that doesn't do all the pre/post steps of package installations it just leaves a runnable binary in a location and all else is up to you
[02:36] <veryhappy> Aaron i got a wizard
[02:36] <aaron_samuel> veryhappy: which wizard? netbeans? which again - probably doesn't install any menu items on debian systems
[02:37] <aaron_samuel> reisio: thats crazy lol
[02:38] <veryhappy> aaron_samuel: i got a wizard that let me choose which path i want to use for the installation
[02:38] <aaron_samuel> yea
[02:38] <aaron_samuel> but thats not a system install - netbeans is just a java application - it runs in a jvm nothing really gets installed files are just placed.. in which case you just configured directories for netbeans which can be anywhere, but again they are not installed to ubuntu guidelines
[02:39] <aaron_samuel> so summary - running the netbeans 'installer' most likely does not generate desktop shortcuts or menu items on debian systems
[02:39] <foolove> having an issue with on the boot splash screen of installing 12.04 i get black and white text blocks and the screen seems to freeze and ubuntu does not install
[02:40] <veryhappy> aaron_samuel: ok so what could i do now?
[02:41] <aaron_samuel> veryhappy: either create the menu items/application shortcuts manually or install from a repo or ppa which should more than likely setup those things for you
[02:41] <pikkachu> I deleted an old Ubuntu installation in an old disk, but this disk still contains grub. How to delete grub from the old disk?
[02:41] <aaron_samuel> im not aware on menu item additions off the top of my head, desktop shortuts are easy, actually they are available from the right click menu in nautilus
[02:42] <veryhappy> aaron_samuel: ok, explain me both ways how to create the shortcut and how to use the ppa
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> menu items use the same .desktop type file as shortcuts
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> just have to have them in the right place.
[02:42] <aaron_samuel> veryhappy: see Dr_Willis comment, =)
[02:42] <RidDrib> Hello everyone from Puerto Rico
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> !ppa
[02:43] <foolove> is there a failsafe like install for ubuntu 12.04 my screen displays white and black blocks and freezes for 12.04 installation
[02:43] <aaron_samuel> veryhappy: i couldn't advise on a netbeans repo/ppa it was just an option but if you did find one... there you go,, again see Dr_Willis comment. =)
[02:43] <veryhappy> yea ok
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> foolove:  try the nomodeset option
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[02:44] <RidDrib> how install aircrack-ng to windows 7?
[02:44] <xangua> RidDrib: sounds like a windows question
[02:44] <bazhang> RidDrib, #aircrack-ng
[02:44] <aaron_samuel> a little out of scope for #ubuntu
[02:44] <reisio> only you'll probably get a lecture in #windows :p
[02:45] <aaron_samuel> maybe if they had a central repo for software it wouldn't be so hard to figure out =)
[02:45] <aaron_samuel> but then that would mean the end of the world..
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> there are apt-get type tools for windows. l)
[02:46] <RidDrib> ok thank you bazhang
[02:46] <aaron_samuel> really? thats a win - they should build them _into_ windows - like they should do with sysinternals (atleast in imho)
[02:47] <numa> I would give anything to make ubuntu ignore my degraded raid array on boot
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> aaron_samuel:  that would be the upcomming 'windows marketplace' thang
[02:47] <aaron_samuel> + and also decide on exe msi or w/e else they use
[02:47] <aaron_samuel> ahh - so the world is ending soon...
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> take the apt-get/deb type packageing idea/repos and call it a 'marketplace' ;_
[02:48] <aaron_samuel> it would be a very good move, there are much benefits to central repos, rules for packaging, etc, i think it would help with the random breakage thats common on M$, then again, it can just go crazy like droid market and they let anyone upload stuff, and then it's downhill all over
[02:48] <sacarlson> jgalt: if there is an option in network manager maybe try wpa-supplicant, otherwise that option was available in the wicd wifi manager maybe try the wicd package
[02:49] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis: i've seen people call the Ubuntu-Software-Center "the store"...
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> zykotick9:  yep. its  basically becomming the same sort of setgup as the android market/play whatever stores. im reminded of 'steam' also ;)
[02:50] <aaron_samuel> right
[02:50] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis: sad.
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> gotta love useless xStar rateings..and pointless user reviews
[02:50] <aaron_samuel> boy - are they pointless...
[02:51] <sirriffsalot> I'm on a completely fresh Ubuntu install, alienware-quality computer. Doing alsa_in -dhw:1 for my usb-driven amp gives jackactivationcount:.signal value = 0 ref = 4 like a machine gun if I simply move the mouse for christ sake.. what's up?!:O
[02:51] <aaron_samuel> sometimes i think they are generated - or almost know they are
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> 'this app diddnet work on my device.. 1 star' (oh wait.. you dident actually run the app.. so how can you review it...)
[02:51] <aaron_samuel> exactly
[02:52] <toxiccity90> hey im running 12.04 but when I'm using MATE I have an issue with screensaver starting during totem running. is there a way to stop this. DBus service in totem is already running.
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> glad they added that 'turn off reccomended apps' in the ubuntu  software center
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> or at least have that setting now. ;)
[02:52] <aaron_samuel> really?! hmm i need to do that asap, because i really dislike that
[02:52] <OerHeks> mate is not supported here, toxiccity90
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> its there somewhere. i forget where.
[02:53] <aaron_samuel> toxiccity90: there is generally a option in the players to disable screensaver while vid is playing, i dont use totem but it may help to check
[02:53] <toxiccity90> DerHeks: why not this is ubuntu still does MATE have its own channel??
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> toxiccity90:  ive also seen some guides on 'disabling screensaver while watching movies' on the webupdu blog site
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> toxiccity90:  mate is not in the official ubuntu repos.. for one thing
[02:53] <RidDrib> i can understand the instruction in aircrack file readme, how can help me ?
[02:53] <toxiccity90> aaron_samuel: thats also already setup in totem
[02:54] <toxiccity90> Dr_Willis: ahh ok
[02:54] <aaron_samuel> ahh.. i got nothing then - sorry
[02:54] <aaron_samuel> <--uses vlc
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> RidDrib:  try the  aircrack channel/website/forums
[02:54] <toxiccity90> no problem ill keep checking round
[02:55] <RidDrib> I have install ubuntu in virtual box from windows 7
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> screensavers dont get the love and attnetion they used to yers ago. ;) no flying toasters these days
[02:55] <aaron_samuel> Dr_Willis: i know right!
[02:55] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis: flying-toasters - oh man, retro fashback ;)
[02:55] <aaron_samuel> Dr_Willis: i always liked the ant spotlight one
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> i just want a nice rss/news/weather  feed type screensaver
[02:56] <aaron_samuel> make one =)
[02:56] <aaron_samuel> ill use it
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> had a thing like it for windows ages ago.. screen/newsticker and so forth.. but the company went under.
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> i dont even rfecall its name
[02:57] <reisio> hrmmm, wouldn't be that hard to make a generic wrapper for video players
[02:57] <aaron_samuel> reisio: what do you mean?
[02:57] <reisio> that calls xscreensaver-command -exit && foo %options && xscreensaver -no-splah
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> 'the great screen saver revival' movement of 2012'
[02:58] <reisio> -no-splash*
[02:58] <aaron_samuel> im currently running xscreensaver with a link
[02:58] <aaron_samuel> 'sudo ln -s /usr/bin/xscreensaver-command /usr/bin/gnome-screensaver-command'
[02:59] <reisio> fancy
[02:59] <aaron_samuel> ;)
[02:59] <reisio> interesting how they forked it and then made version 3 and completely abandoned it
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> gnome screensa  ver is so unloved..its scary
[03:00] <aaron_samuel> Dr_Willis: maybe because it defaults to a blank screen that make monitors go sleepy
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> 'it was forked to death'
[03:00] <aaron_samuel> i have my other box plugged into my monitor so gnome-screensaver used to always bug me out because my other computer would take over the monitor unexpectadly
[03:00] <RidDrib> how to create dll?
[03:00] <aaron_samuel> windows question
[03:02] <bazhang> RidDrib, ##windows  NOT here
[03:03] <RidDrib> where i don't like windows wakala
[03:03] <bazhang> RidDrib, you are offtopic here, this is Ubuntu support ONLY
[03:04] <RidDrib> ok ready
[03:04] <toxiccity90> i think caffiene may provide a partial solution to this issue. but btw this isn't just a MATE issue. this is a regression from 11.10 in unity. also in 12.04 in MATE and probably the other DE's as well
[03:06] <kidding-ya> I can't make the playlist work in the default music player ;-;
[03:07] <veryhappy> see you guys you helped me
[03:07] <veryhappy> bye
[03:07] <aaron_samuel> cog - in banshee?
[03:08] <cog> rhythmbox
[03:08] <aaron_samuel> oh did they switch back in 12?
[03:08] <cog> I guess.
[03:09] <aaron_samuel> i had an issue with playlists in banshee thought maybe you were having the same - sorry im still on 11.10 =)
[03:09] <RidDrib> when i update ubuntu in update manager, said . E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[03:09] <aaron_samuel> cog - sometimes starting it from the terminal helps
[03:09] <aaron_samuel> RidDrib: you need to use sudo
[03:10] <cog> What do you call that winamp like music player? xmms?
[03:10] <aaron_samuel> cog: yes
[03:10] <aaron_samuel> cog: xmms2 i think was the latest.. i also think it's way old and not in repo's (i think)
[03:10] <cog> I used clementine :)
[03:10] <bazhang> cog audacious
[03:10] <cog> thanks though.
[03:11] <RidDrib> E: Unable to lock the administration directory )/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess usint it?
[03:11] <bazhang> aaron_samuel, no, xmms2 is something else, and xmms is no longer maintained
[03:11] <aaron_samuel> RidDrib: thalladat means you have too running
[03:11] <aaron_samuel> bazhang: right ok - thanks for the clarification
[03:11] <Edgan> audacious is winamp/xmms like
[03:12] <jkitchen> RidDrib: try using sudo
[03:12] <aaron_samuel> s/too/two
[03:12] <sacarlson> RidDrib: maybe you are also running synaptic?  you can only run one apt-get application at a time
[03:12] <massmc> evening/morning
[03:12] <RidDrib> when i use sudo said!
[03:12] <RidDrib> E: Unable to lock the administration directory )/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess usint it?
[03:12] <aaron_samuel> RidDrib: you can only run one at a time and you need to use sudo with the one
[03:12] <Nom-> Are there any command line tools to set the IP Address (ie. Manage /etc/network/interfaces) ?
[03:12] <jkitchen> then yea, something else is already running
[03:13] <aaron_samuel> Nom-: ip and ifconfig
[03:13] <xangua> RidDrib: cloc software center, synaptic
[03:13] <massmc> RidDrib : do you maybe have the software centre or synaptic open also?
[03:13] <aaron_samuel> the interfaces file is manual - but you can assign ip's with those commands
[03:13] <Nom-> aaron_samuel: Those don't change /etc/network/interfaces last i checked
[03:13] <aaron_samuel> Nom-: nothing does afaik
[03:14] <hangdeadman> I discovered using bootchart that my ureadahead isn't working on ubuntu 12.04lts on a dell inspiron 1545, anybody have any suggestions?
[03:14] <Nom-> *nod* fairy nuff... cat <<EOF it is :P
[03:14] <RidDrib> I can see other program in panel
[03:14] <hangdeadman> Ureadahead not working in ubuntu 12.04 resulting in very slow boot...
[03:15] <aaron_samuel> Nom-: well - are you looking to autoconfigure things? like images or auto build outs? in which case they're are better methods puppet/chef but if your just trying something quick and dirty, and you know shell , yes something like that is fine.. just don't mistype anything..
[03:15] <RidDrib> where other way find that program
[03:15] <Nom-> aaron_samuel: I'm writing a first boot script which will allow the user to change the hostname/ip address/etc of a VM
[03:16] <RidDrib> i need close sudo user
[03:16] <aaron_samuel> Nom-: hmm yes - there are many ways i guess.. but it sounds like you want something dynamic that takes args in which case = yes your probably on right track
[03:17] <Edgan> Nom-: I handle that via dhcp, and a lookup in the dhcp configuration. Then I control the ip address via dhcp via mac address.
[03:17] <aaron_samuel> Nom-: make sure you bring up lo if your going to create that file like new
[03:17] <Nom-> We don't use DHCP for Servers :)
[03:17] <hangdeadman> I discovered using bootchart that my ureadahead isn't working on ubuntu 12.04lts on a dell inspiron 1545, anybody have any suggestions?
[03:17] <aaron_samuel> a static reservation is possible in dhcp protocol Nom-
[03:18] <Edgan> Nom-: It is the new norm for VMs
[03:18] <sacarlson> RidDrib: when in dout reboot and try again,
[03:18] <aaron_samuel> no it's the default for
[03:18] <aaron_samuel> VM's...
[03:18] <aaron_samuel> its not the norm for any server to be dhcp virtual or not....
[03:18] <Nom-> And when the DHCP server is down because your DC blows up?
[03:19] <Nom-> Yeah, it's pretty rare for servers to be on DHCP in any form last I checked
[03:19] <aaron_samuel> Nom-: the autoconfigure would work - i guess you pull in certain vars from the user and run them in the VM to bring up network?
[03:20] <aaron_samuel> Nom-: what will be running the firstboot? rc.local or something? and how will you communicate with the VM with network down/unknown? some guest driver api?
[03:20] <Nom-> It's designed to be configured on console
[03:20] <Nom-> Like a first boot wizard type thing
[03:20] <aaron_samuel> Nom-: whats type of VM's if you don't mind me asking?
[03:20] <Nom-> Ubuntu Precise server VMs
[03:20] <Nom-> Every kind of server you can think of :P
[03:21] <aaron_samuel> well - i mean what vt tech? vmware? vbox?
[03:21] <Nom-> VMWare
[03:21] <aaron_samuel> ah.. womp womp - i was going to mention vagrant.. but that works for vbox...
[03:21] <Nom-> Unfortuantely the company isn't quite ready to use the guest customizations... that was my first thought
[03:21] <RidDrib> I install ubuntu in virtual box
[03:21] <martintux> can anyone that has Compiz running kindly export their profile and upload it? Thanks...
[03:22] <aaron_samuel> vagrant would be smooth because it integrates with chef and you can possibly pass a recipe with user args to bring up a server with a specific ip etc
[03:22] <aaron_samuel> but for vmware - i guess thats out of question
[03:22] <reisio> martintux: ?
[03:23] <hangdeadman> I discovered using bootchart that my ureadahead isn't working on ubuntu 12.04lts on a dell inspiron 1545, resulting in long boot times, etc. Anybody have any suggestions?
[03:23] <aaron_samuel> hangdeadman: how did you make this discovery?
[03:23] <reisio> aaron_samuel: with the help of thousands of dead natives, as usual
[03:23] <aaron_samuel> reisio: =)
[03:24] <martintux> @reisio do you have compiz running?
[03:24] <reisio> martintux: I've used compiz on many installs
[03:24] <aaron_samuel> hangdeadman: are you comparing the bootcharts to some baseline data?
[03:24] <martintux> can you go to profile, and export your profile setting and send it to me?
[03:24] <hangdeadman> aaron_samuel: a person on here helped me to install and read bootchart, then told me that ureadahead isn't working.
[03:24] <martintux> I know this is weird, but it's hard to explain
[03:24] <aaron_samuel> hangdeadman: i see.
[03:25] <aaron_samuel> hangdeadman: they provide the reason why?
[03:25] <aaron_samuel> seems like magic lol =)
[03:25] <hangdeadman> aaron_samuel: he said he didn't know and i've been trying to find someone who could help me figure that out for a few days.
[03:26] <aaron_samuel> hangdeadman: i see
[03:26] <martintux> @reisio bump
[03:26] <aaron_samuel> hangdeadman: someone would need way more data to help you than the bootcharts
[03:27] <reisio> martintux: that is weird, please try to explain
[03:27] <aaron_samuel> hangdeadman: whats not working? is it slow? did you try to re-profile etc?
[03:28] <martintux> if you use ubuntu and install compiz, there will be many options pre-selected, correct?
[03:28] <hangdeadman> aaron_samuel, the original problems I encountered were a 30 second boot followed by a minute long login after upgrading from 10.10 to 12.04 lts. each took less than 5 seconds before.
[03:28] <aaron_samuel> hangdeadman: have you disabled it and booted and reviewed the bootchart for comparison?
[03:28] <aaron_samuel> hangdeadman: see my last two comments
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> martintux:  compiz is installed by default omn a normal ubuntu install. setup to use unity
[03:29] <RidDrib> how to control ubuntu service ?
[03:29] <hangdeadman> I don't know what reprofile means as I'm fairly new to linux, and I don't know how to disable it or how to read the bootcharts.
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> RidDrib:  depends on what you want to do. the 'service' command is normally used.
[03:30] <martintux> Dr_Willis, I'm running Mint. It has Compiz preinstalled, however, there is no options pre-selected.
[03:30] <aaron_samuel> hangdeadman: ok - you can/should review some docs on the web http://askubuntu.com/questions/10508/optimizing-boot-up | reprofiling is referenced there
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> martintux:  mint has its own support channels.  each compiz plugin has its own defaults.
[03:30] <martintux> I want to import compiz profile from Ubuntu compiz, which already has many usable options selected.
[03:31] <Pinkamena_D> Hi, i am wondering if anyone has heard of some load smoothing tool for a home network. I will describe this the best i can: my sis likes to play an online game, warcraft 3. It does not take very much bandwidth but it is sensitive to ping. I have a web server which is connected to the modem directly with all the other network devices bridged behind it. (ubuntu server 11.10 on it)
[03:31] <RidDrib> the bad service!
[03:31] <hangdeadman> aaron_samuel. I did try to make a new user and encountered the problems with boot and login
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> martintux:  compiz has some way to save settings to a 'file' i recall.. but ive raarely messed with it. #compix may know more
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> oops #compiz
[03:31] <martintux> @Dr_Willis you're not trying to understand me at all.
[03:31] <aaron_samuel> Pinkamena_D: its called QOS
[03:31] <Pinkamena_D> i am looking for a tool that will make sure that the bandwidth useage is kept slightly below the max for all devices so that the ping for my sis wont lag
[03:32] <Pinkamena_D> is their a qos program you would recommend?
[03:32] <sacarlson> martintux: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1024378/
[03:32] <aaron_samuel> Pinkamena_D: you should run it on the router or gw device that controls traffic in and out
[03:32] <martintux> @Dr_Willis That is what I'm looking for. I want to import profile from Ubuntu compiz user
[03:32] <martintux> it's nothing complicated, just a simple file
[03:32] <Pinkamena_D> the modem has no router, the bridge is in the web server
[03:32] <aaron_samuel> Pinkamena_D: its a little complicated on linux but it's called tc
[03:33] <aaron_samuel> then you need to use tc at the point traffic aggregates
[03:33] <RidDrib> daemonizing servers
[03:33] <Pinkamena_D> thanks for the pointer, i will check it out
[03:33] <sacarlson> martintux: the pastebin above has my present compiz config
[03:33] <aaron_samuel> ok
[03:33] <alFReD-NSH> I'm a web developer, working locally, right now I need something like a proxy that can limit down my speed to make like a remote host
[03:33] <alFReD-NSH> A friend told me use shaper
[03:33] <alFReD-NSH> Is that good enough?
[03:34] <aaron_samuel> alFReD-NSH: what are you trying to do?
[03:34] <alFReD-NSH> Which package to install?
[03:34] <hangdeadman> aaron_samuel: do you think a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 would cure the problem?
[03:34] <aaron_samuel> hangdeadman: did you re-profile?
[03:34] <alFReD-NSH> shapecfg: Need to create an artificial latency and speed limit
[03:34] <hangdeadman> aaron_samuel: how do I reprofile?
[03:35] <bazhang> alFReD-NSH, wondershaper and/or trickle?
[03:35] <aaron_samuel> hangdeadman: what is going on in the bootchart? disk reads? writes? if it's high read during the time ureadahead is lagging then you probably need to reprofile
[03:35] <martintux> @sacarlson it should contain the "as_active_plugins = "
[03:35] <martintux> yours does not. are you sure you click export on utility tab?
[03:36] <hangdeadman> aaron_samuel: I don't know how to read them. If I sent you a link could you tell me what you can?
[03:36] <RidDrib> how can control daemonizing servers?
[03:36] <aaron_samuel> meh - im listening to my audiobook =)
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> RidDrib:  controll in what way
[03:36] <aaron_samuel> the re-profile steps are on that link i pinged you
[03:37] <aaron_samuel> remove .pack files in /var/lib/ureadahead/ and rebooting forces reprofile
[03:37] <sacarlson> martintux: cd /etc ; sudo grep -r as_active_plugins * ;  seems to returns nothing
[03:37] <hangdeadman> aaron_samuel: thanks, I missed that link at first.
[03:37] <aaron_samuel> np
[03:37] <RidDrib> in background!
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> RidDrib:  you may want to be a bit more verbose in your questions and responses.  the 'service' command is normally used to srt/stop/restart services.
[03:38] <martintux> how did you get the above profile?
[03:39] <martintux> @sacarlson, did you click, preferences->export?
[03:40] <sacarlson> martintux: in what application?
[03:40] <ezoe> Every time there is an update which requires reboot, after the reboot and login, Compiz crash. rebooting one more time solve the problem.
[03:40] <hangdeadman> aaron_samuel: ureadahead looks the same on bootchart after re-profiling, it lloks like it starts for a second then stops.
[03:40] <ezoe> Does anyone have any idea why?
[03:40] <hangdeadman> *looks
[03:41] <martintux> compizconfig setting manager?
[03:41] <martintux> @sacarlson^^
[03:41] <ezoe> It looks like the problem of compiz. Because, background images, right click menu etc works just like normal.
[03:41] <ezoe> though since there is no Unity, I can't do anything on that. I have to swtich to terminal and type shutdown.
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> ezoe:  next time try a 'sudo service lightdm restgart'
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> ezoe:  next time try a 'sudo service lightdm restart'
[03:43] <ezoe> Dr_Willis: the problem is, I can't do anything on plain X running without Unity. I can even open virtual terminal.
[03:43] <ezoe> s/can/can't/
[03:43] <sacarlson> martintux: from compiz_configuration_manager export http://paste.ubuntu.com/1024383/
[03:43] <mhough> is anyone dealing with random logouts on 12.04?
[03:43] <ezoe> so, I always switched to real terminal, login, and reboot.
[03:43] <mhough> its just killing me at work
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> ezoe:  you just said you could use the 'shutdown' command..
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> ezoe:  so try restqrting the x server instead of shutting down
[03:44] <ezoe> Dr_Willis: from real terminal yes.
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> ezoe:  no idea what you mean by 'real terminal'
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> sudo service.. should work from any command line, console, or x
[03:44] <aaron_samuel> a holographic terminal?
[03:45] <netmk> he means the tty.. (CTRL+ALT+F1 through F5)
[03:45] <aaron_samuel> yea
[03:45] <ezoe> well, I'll try next time. probably within weeks.
[03:45] <aaron_samuel> a emergency holographic terminal
[03:45] <six-sick-trix> hello. how can I get a list of all the install apps on my computer?
[03:46] <aaron_samuel> six-sick-trix: dpkg -a
[03:46] <reisio> six-sick-trix: dpkg -l
[03:46] <aaron_samuel> grr -l
[03:46] <martintux> @sacarlson exactly what I've been looking for. Thanks.
[03:46] <ezoe> still, What I want to know is how to prevent compiz to fail.
[03:47] <six-sick-trix> will that save it to a file?
[03:47] <sacarlson> ezoe: stop it from failing?  don't run it
[03:47] <reisio> six-sick-trix: dpkg -l > afile
[03:47] <aaron_samuel> six-sick-trix: dpkg -l |grep "^ii" > /tmp/file
[03:47] <reisio> !clone
[03:47] <reisio> six-sick-trix: or that ^
[03:47] <ezoe> or is it a bug of compiz or caused by nVidia binary blob driver or something.
[03:47] <aaron_samuel> the ones that start with ii are installed some might show up as reference but not be installed
[03:47] <ezoe> sacarlson: Yeah. I think the best solution is switch to the WM what doesn't require compiz.
[03:48] <six-sick-trix> okay than can I type something simple into re-install all apps from that list once I install my new os?
[03:48] <sacarlson> ezoe: I would guess it was the nvidia drivers, did you try the propriatary nvidia drivers/
[03:48] <mhough> I wonder if my random logouts are due to nvidia's driver because I think X crashing is what is logging me out
[03:49] <ezoe> sacarlson: I use nvidia's proprietary driver which comes from Ubuntu repository.
[03:49] <aaron_samuel> six-sick-trix: you can use that list it wont be as smooth as you want it
[03:49] <sacarlson> ezoe: there might be newer verisions direct from nvidia you might try or maybe also in ppa
[03:50] <aaron_samuel> depending on how your doing your clone you can also try something like 'dpkg --get-selections | ssh newhost dpkg --set-selections'
[03:50] <six-sick-trix> any smoother way to go about it?
[03:50] <aaron_samuel> six-sick-trix: ^^
[03:52] <hangdeadman> how would I disable ureadahead on ubuntu 12.04?
[03:52] <ezoe> sacarlson: at least, nVidia doesn't say it fixed a problem related to compiz. just new product supports and regression fix for older gen GPU.
[03:52] <six-sick-trix> I have a list I will just pick and choose from it. I don't think I need/want all of it anyway. thank you.
[03:53] <Socket-> Hey guys, I created a user with a home dir in /srv/app2 and i created a /srv/app2/.bashrc file , and, I did usermod -s /bin/bash user2 , but user2 is not auto importing the alias file.
[03:53] <Socket-> any ideas on why not? do i have to create the user under /home
[03:54] <aaron_samuel> Socket-: does he own the files/directory?
[03:54] <VectorX> hi im trying to install "ubuntu-12.04-alternate-amd64.iso" off a usb and its failing at "select and install software" ?
[03:54] <reisio> VectorX: did you select some?
[03:54] <VectorX> no, its on auto
[03:54] <VectorX> i selected ltsp
[03:54] <reisio> that was your mistake
[03:54] <VectorX> as the mode
[03:55] <VectorX> why
[03:55] <VectorX> isnt alternative suppose to do that
[03:55] <reisio> that's the classic way to break automated installers
[03:55] <reisio> they're debugged for installing the base system, not random extras
[03:55] <VectorX> but i have done this fine with other versions
[03:56] <aaron_samuel> doesnt really mean it works on a new version
[03:56] <KorvinSzanto> all my flash shiz is tinted blud
[03:56] <KorvinSzanto> blue
[03:56] <sacarlson> ezoe: I think nvidia also had it's own complete kernel as I guess it's stuf won't work on every linux kernel,  but my nvidia works fine with compiz with 2.6.32-24-generic;  with a GeForce 6100 nForce 405
[03:56] <KorvinSzanto> http://img7.imagebanana.com/img/fik9brw9/Selection_004.png
[03:56] <KorvinSzanto> any idea
[03:56] <Socket-> aaron, yeah
[03:56] <Socket-> if he types "bash" then all the aliases work
[03:56] <Socket-> but upond login then dont
[03:56] <aaron_samuel> hmm ok
[03:57] <aaron_samuel> i think i know what it is..
[03:57] <ezoe> sacarlson: my experience isn't bad. except this update, roboot, compiz fail problem.
[03:57] <sacarlson> ezoe: oh if it worked before just run your old kernel
[03:57] <aaron_samuel> Socket-: actually nevermind
[03:57] <ezoe> sacarlson: It's not the kernel I believe.
[03:58] <hangdeadman> aaron_samuel: I booted again and ureadahead has changed on bootchart, but my boot/ login still took over a minute, could you tell me what else too look for to solve this problem?
[03:58] <sacarlson> ezoe: it's a kernel + driver problem as you said it worked before
[03:58] <ezoe> actually, it failed every time.
[03:59] <ezoe> every update which requires reboot.
[03:59] <ezoe> from 11.10(I'm using Ubuntu since then.)
[03:59] <aaron_samuel> Socket-: can you post 'getent passwd <username>' ?
[03:59] <sacarlson> ezoe: oh then if you really want it try the nvidia kernel,  but I've never tried it
[03:59] <aaron_samuel> Socket-: also the users .files to a gist/pastie
[04:00] <ezoe> "nvidia kernel"... eew.
[04:00] <aaron_samuel> hangdeadman: post the chart ill take a look but not for long
[04:00] <sacarlson> ezoe: so it didn't work in 11.10?
[04:01] <sacarlson> ezoe: it works find in 10.04,  so maybe just run a 10.04 kernel then
[04:01] <ezoe> well, as I said, problem is one-reboot-time only.
[04:01] <ezoe> update, reboot, fail, reboot again, it works.
[04:01] <ezoe> I have no idea what's going on.
[04:02] <sacarlson> ezoe: oh so it's auto fall back to the working kernel then?
[04:02] <ezoe> and it seems everything except compiz is working.
[04:02] <ezoe> is it?
[04:02] <sacarlson> ezoe: uname -a; might tell you what you have running at least and see what is installed to see if it matches
[04:03] <VectorX> reisio i just tried to install the base and it got stuck at the same place, could there be a problem with the iso, the md5's match
[04:03] <ezoe> 3.2.0-24-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 21 16:52:17
[04:04] <ezoe> I don't think it fall back. since there is no problem except compiz.
[04:04] <sacarlson> ezoe: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1004779
[04:07] <ezoe> sacarlson: I don't think it's related to my problem.
[04:09] <reisio> VectorX: not unheard of even when the image is good, I'm afraid
[04:10] <sacarlson> ezoe: I also looked back and don't see you showing what nvidia card you have ; pastebinit | lshw;
[04:10] <ezoe> I use GeForce GTX560 Ti.
[04:10] <hangdeadman> aaron_samuel: sorry  that took so long, http://imagebin.org/215175
[04:13] <sacarlson> ezoe: and what driver is seen running it as seen in lsmod;  or the lshw; above
[04:13] <alFReD-NSH> Is it possible that have an interface like `lo` but only for tcp traffic on port 8080?
[04:14] <alFReD-NSH> I mean is it possible to create another one?
[04:14] <ezoe> sacarlson: the result of lsmod is rather long. I should use pastebin or something.
[04:15] <ezoe> What do you want? the result of lshw and lsmod?
[04:15] <sacarlson> alFReD-NSH: it is posible to create a virtual device and setup iptables rules to do so but the question is why?
[04:16] <randomDude> i'm looking for a way to auto suspend a 12.04 workstation on the login screen after a time of inactivity
[04:16] <alFReD-NSH> sacarlson: Using wondershaper want to limit the traffic, but only for that port and nothing else	
[04:16] <sacarlson> ezoe: the pastebinit | lshw; would be a more complete view off all hardware that might conflict
[04:16] <ezoe> do I need sudo?
[04:17] <sacarlson> alFReD-NSH: well then you don't need another device just an iptables rule to do so
[04:18] <jamescarr> so is oracle java unavailable now?
[04:18] <alFReD-NSH> sacarlson: I haven't really worked with iptables, what should I search?
[04:18] <sacarlson> alFReD-NSH: but maybe the virtual device method would work
[04:18] <ezoe> isn't this pastebinit tool suppose to be used as lshw | pastebinit?
[04:18] <lJ6il> Hi there. I added this ppa ( https://launchpad.net/~pkg-games ) to install the last version of Pokerth. And i did apt-get update. But when i want to install pokerth (apt-get install pokerth), apt-get installs an old version from the classical repositories... I don't understand... Could someone help me ? (sorry for my bad english in advance)
[04:19] <lJ6il> the ppa was added by sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pkg-games/ppa
[04:19] <sacarlson> alFReD-NSH: I've used iptables before and also limited bandwidth with it before but not to just a port normaly ip address but it should be about the same
[04:19] <N3WB13> hola como saco esto: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:20] <hangdeadman> Can anyone read my bootchart and tell me why boot is so slow on ubuntu 12.04?
[04:20] <N3WB13> sorry how i can repair this E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:21] <foolove> dr_willis thanks that got me there
[04:21] <mi3> I am unable to install remastersys on my ubuntu 12.04 machine, any suggestions ? when I try to do a sudo apt-get update, it says W: Failed to fetch http://www.remastersys.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/InRelease  Unable to find expected entry 'main/source/Sources' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[04:21] <ezoe> sacarlson: here is the result of lshw on my system. http://pastebin.com/ahL0vEK8
[04:21] <mi3> sorry for the flood :(
[04:22] <lJ6il> Hi N3WB13 : http://allforlinux.com/2010/07/solving-e-sub-process-usrbindpkg-returned-an-error-code1/
[04:22] <foolove> Does anyone know of any good data recovery programs for linux???
[04:22] <reisio> foolove: how'd you lose the data?
[04:22] <mi3> foolove, use sbackup :D
[04:22] <aaron_samuel> dejadup
[04:23] <foolove> im not certain but my 3.0 tb disk not showing up during installatoin it was accidently selected however it was ntfs i did not do anythng with the partition
[04:24] <reisio> foolove: so you aren't even certain what happened yet?
[04:24] <foolove> reisio well i couldve screwed something up there was 135mb of another partition that was part of the drive i had deleted for free space i was going to use as swap partition
[04:24] <mi3> anyone has suggestions for my problem ?
[04:25] <foolove> but instead used swap on the drive i installed the OS
[04:25] <sacarlson> alFReD-NSH: closest thing I could find on short notice http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=508896
[04:25] <reisio> foolove: well, best find out what's going on first
[04:25] <foolove> reisio the drive would not mount
[04:25] <reisio> foolove: via what command?
[04:26] <foolove> well i have 3 drives it is the only one htat did not mount
[04:26] <foolove> I have yet to issue a command
[04:26] <foolove> i have not touched fstab just looking for advice
[04:27] <N3WB13> lJ6il : sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/"unwanted-package-name".postrm but what's the unwanted package in this case  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:27] <nubs_> Hey, I couldn't get sound yesterday, but at the advice of someone here I created a new account on my machine to see if the sound worked over there, and it did, and when I got back to this account, the sound worked again here too. But now I can't turn my volume down and the sound settings doesn't show anything for output. Can anyone help?
[04:27] <philaneous> i need some quick help
[04:27] <foolove> maybe when i deleted the 135mb portion something went wacky with the partition tables on the entire disk im honestly not sure
[04:27] <OccupyDemonoid> Hello, I am trying to set up a vpn server with Ubuntu Server 11.04 and I can connect to it just fine, but in the logs it says "CHAP Authentication failed."
[04:27] <philaneous> i made an account on my ubuntu server
[04:27] <philaneous> how do i get it to be viewed on the web
[04:27] <philaneous> i can sftp
[04:27] <philaneous> to it
[04:27] <philaneous> and ssh
[04:27] <FloodBot1> philaneous: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:27] <lJ6il> N3WB13, usually this error happens when a package has gone wrong. The line before the error tells what is package causing this problem
[04:29] <hangdeadman> can anyone read my bootchart and tell me why ubuntu 12.04 is taking 30 seconds plus to boot?
[04:30] <philaneous> how do i get my user to have a virtual directory?
[04:30] <reisio> philaneous: virtual in what way
[04:31] <philaneous> reisio: i made an account on my ubuntu server
[04:31] <philaneous> adduser command
[04:31] <sacarlson> ezoe: it apears the driver=nvidia is active and I think that's the propriatary driver name, I do note that irq 16 is also used by your ide device but I'm not sure that would be a problem
[04:31] <reisio> philaneous: and?
[04:31] <philaneous> i can sftp to it and ssh, I'm trying to make it accessible to the web
[04:31] <philaneous> so some buddies of mine can upload some html files
[04:31] <wookienz> guys, i have several services running on server. I want to VPN one specific service. will a virtual iface and openvpn client on that iface whiel binding the specific servce to that iface work?
[04:32] <nubs_> Hey, I couldn't get sound yesterday, but at the advice of someone here I created a new account on my machine to see if the sound worked over there, and it did, and when I got back to this account, the sound worked again here too. But now I can't turn my volume down and the sound settings doesn't show anything for output. Can anyone help?
[04:32] <SC4RF4C3> thans how i fix this :You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[04:32] <OccupyDemonoid> Hello, I am trying to set up a vpn server with Ubuntu Server 11.04 and I can connect to it just fine, but in the logs it says "CHAP Authentication failed."
[04:33] <hangdeadman> can anyone read my bootchart and tell me why ubuntu 12.04 is taking 30 seconds plus to boot?
[04:34] <l3b0wsk1> you doing a pptp vpn?
[04:34] <OccupyDemonoid> l3b0wsk1, yes, a pptp vpn.
[04:34] <l3b0wsk1> on a vps?
[04:35] <l3b0wsk1> or at home
[04:35] <OccupyDemonoid> Yes, on a vps.
[04:35] <l3b0wsk1> ;)
[04:35] <l3b0wsk1> can be tricky
[04:35] <l3b0wsk1> what ya got so far
[04:35] <philaneous> reisio: do u know how i can fix it
[04:35] <l3b0wsk1> you install the server and what's the logs say
[04:35] <reisio> philaneous: symlink it from your webroot
[04:36] <reisio> philaneous: cd /var/www/localhost/htdocs or whatever, then ln -s fakeDir /path/to/real
[04:36] <philaneous> so i wanna make philaneous.com/~fanaddict
[04:37] <OccupyDemonoid> l3b0wsk1, I installed pptpd. Everything is up and running. I got the chap-secerets file edited. I edited the IP Addresses to reflect what the internal and external IP. The only error I am getting is "CHAP Authentication failed."
[04:37] <foolove> well running gpart hopefully this works
[04:37] <ezoe> anyway, I'm sure it's reproducible every time when there is an update which requires reboot(linux image and header I guess).
[04:38] <ezoe> then, second reboot solve the problem.
[04:39] <ezoe> hmm, in next update, I should use Unity2D or something which doesn't require compiz. I bet it won't fail.
[04:39] <ezoe> because, it seems to me, everything except compiz is working.
[04:44] <maxone> how do i get stereo sound with the latest ubuntu
[04:46] <visual1ce> hi
[04:47] <visual1ce> i want to reverse tether my android phone to my laptop running 12.04. Network connections shows a wired connection for the device but how do i bridge eth0 and usb0?
[04:47] <maxone> could someone help me out?
[04:47] <KRomo> what kind of sound card?
[04:48] <maxone> it's a reltech i think, it's an asus ws pro board
[04:49] <hangdeadman> can anyone read my bootchart and tell me why ubuntu 12.04 is taking 30 seconds plus to boot?
[04:50]  * Dr_Willis recalls when 30 sec-2 min boot times would be amazeing
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> my android phone takes like 2-3 min to boot. but its scanning a lot of media. ;)
[04:52] <hangdeadman> Before upgrade from 10.10 to 12.04 lts it took me 10 seconds to boot and login together. now over a minute...
[04:52] <hangdeadman> 30 seconds to boot and 30 seconds to a minute to login.
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> that time is for 2 very differnt things.
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> if from the login screen, where you enter name/pass to get to a working desktop. thats stuff you got auto loading, and the window manager setting things up.
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> on my clean instll it takes a few seconds to get unity desktop going. perhaps 20-30 - i rarely notice. lubuntu/lxde or other window managers load almost instantly at login
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> im using normal hard drives. no ssds
[04:56] <hangdeadman> same loading times with gnome 3, cinnamon, MATE, unity 2d, gnome classic (with or without effects)
[04:56] <hangdeadman> also kde plasma
[04:57] <bavani> Hey guys, i wanted to know the latest stable release of binutils, glibc and gcc. Could anyone tell me?
[04:58] <hangdeadman> Does anyone know of a way to show disk usage and free space at the bottom of nautilus on ubuntu 12.04, like in 10.10?
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> sounds like you may have a lot  of extra stuff loading if you  have all those desktops  installed
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> wonder low long icewm, or fluxbox would take for you  to load
[04:59] <bavani> Hey guys, i wanted to know the latest stable release of binutils, glibc and gcc. Could anyone tell me?
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> bavani:  check the  gcc homepage?
[05:00] <bavani> but wht about binutils and glibc
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> check their  homepages?
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> most of thecore tools like that - dont change versions #s very fast
[05:01] <bavani> Well, i'm just getting started
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> minor verion # changes. but it depends on what you would call 'latest stable' i guess
[05:02] <kb> hello.  i am having trouble with my screen resolution in that it is limited to resolutions that i do not want.  any ideas on how to change this?
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> ubunttu uses what in the repos. and doent really change  verisons till the next 6 mo release
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> kb:  tell the channel your video card/chipset, monitor type and what drivers you are using and have installed.
[05:02] <bavani> I need it for cross platform compilation
[05:03] <kb> ok...
[05:04] <kb> seems like it is not able to read it as it says "Unknown"
[05:05] <kb> i SHOULD know
[05:06] <compaq> nao to entendendo esse papo
[05:06] <compaq> alguem poderia me explica
[05:06] <reisio> and how
[05:06] <reisio> compaq: #ubuntu-br
[05:06] <compaq> bom dia
[05:06] <compaq> ae pessoa,
[05:06] <compaq> pessoal
[05:07]  * Dr_Willis removes compaq 's enter key
[05:07] <compaq> ok
[05:07] <kb> well, i'll find out and be back
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> kb:  lspci command will give some ingo
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> info
[05:08] <kb> ok, thanks
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> nvidia and ati cards need extra adrivers. install them with the 'addational drivers' tool is normally how to do it. (or run jockey-gtk from the  terminal)
[05:09] <Silversong> hey, anyone know what's a good video-editing software on Ubuntu?
[05:09] <Silversong> free
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> Silversong:  theres several.
[05:09] <Silversong> recommend me one then :)
[05:09] <kb> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[05:09] <compaq> pronto removi
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> shotwell, or openshot (i forget shich ine) is useable
[05:09] <compaq> e agora
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> use the package manager to search
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> !info openshot
[05:10] <Silversong> sounds good
[05:10] <kb> silver, depends on what you want to do
[05:10] <kb> what do you want to use it for?
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> seen some blog sites  have summaries of video editor soft for linux
[05:10] <Silversong> that'll do xD
[05:10] <Silversong> Thanks :)
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> totally depends on the task on hand.
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> !info kino
[05:11] <Jancoover> ##english
[05:12] <amanthakur> hey guys, can anyone tell me how can i redirect the output of "xinput test id" into a file i have tried with ">" operator but its not working.
[05:12] <kb> dr_willis, so how do i know if i have nvidia or ati?
[05:13] <kb> i think i have, VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> kb:  lspci command should show..  but if it intel.. then well looks like you got intel. Unless its one of those weird laptops with dual video cards.
[05:13] <kb> no, it's an hp desktop
[05:13] <kb> and monitor
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> intel  drivers are built in. theres often updated ones av ail via  the ppas -
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> !fixres
[05:18] <anonymous_> hi
[05:19] <anonymous_> my names Max
[05:19] <anonymous_> help my
[05:19] <Magnu> can anyone reccomend a stockmarket tracking program for 12.04? Grisms no good as i dont seem to be able to install ruby.
[05:20] <anonymous_> plis add link instruction LOIC
[05:20] <spronk> guys, if i'm setting up my 12.04 machine to take over dhcp duties (via dnsmasq) on my network instead of wifi router, do i need to disable local DHCP client? I'm assuming I need to set a static IP?
[05:21] <anonymous_> HELP
[05:21] <anonymous_> friends
[05:21] <sulaiman> Greetings
[05:21] <chongx> 啊
[05:22] <anonymous_> speek to english?
[05:22] <anonymous_> i santa clous
[05:22] <chongx> ubuntu?
[05:22] <anonymous_> of cos?
[05:22] <anonymous_> yes
[05:23] <sulaiman> I have a file in the following pattern:   xyz; abc; foo; bar; I want to have each those words in a different line, can I easily do that through the command line?
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> sulaiman:  awk can handle that sort of task
[05:24] <sulaiman> Dr_Willis, okay, I will look into that, thanks
[05:24] <kb> dr_willis: should i try the "not recognized video cards" section? given that it shows up as "unkown" in the system info?
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> thats the sort of thing awk was designed for. ;)
[05:24] <kb> *unknown
[05:25] <nydel> g'eve
[05:25] <asdfasdf_> hi i have a problem i need some assistance with
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> kb:  no idea. i only use nvidia cards mainly  here. rarely have video issues on my older machines
[05:25] <nydel> asdfasdf_: go ahead...
[05:25] <asdfasdf_> i've googled and tried to fix it myself but i can't
[05:25] <asdfasdf_> thanks, nydel
[05:25] <st3el_> I know this isn't exactly a question about Ubuntu however I'm trying to do this in Ubuntu and it seems pretty simple I'm just really new to Linux
[05:26] <st3el_> I'm trying to host a dedicated TeeWorlds server on my Ubuntu 12.4 desktop
[05:26] <asdfasdf_> my wireless router reset itself and i have had to reset all the entworking details, etc. my windows machine reconnects fine. my ubuntu does not. i cannot surf the net on my ubuntu machine.
[05:26] <asdfasdf_> nothing has changed, the password is fine, it connects to the network, but no internet flows through it
[05:26] <asdfasdf_> any assistance with this would be muchly appreciated
[05:27] <nydel> asdfasdf_: open a terminal please
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> asdfasdf_:  see if they can ping the routers ip#, see if they can ping 8.8.8.8   see if they can ping google.com    as starter tests
[05:27] <asdfasdf_> i cannot ping the router
[05:27] <nydel> asdfasdf_: type "hostname -I" & tell me the results
[05:27] <sulaiman> Dr_Willis, " sed 's/;/\n/g' list.txt > output.txt " this worked for me
[05:28] <asdfasdf_> hostname -I: 192.168.1.3
[05:28] <st3el_> the guide is on their website https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=SettingUpAServer
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> sedis more specilized. awk is more powerfull. they are like  peanut butter and jelly. ;)
[05:28] <st3el_> But I really just don't quite understand it
[05:28] <nydel> asdfasdf_: "ping ubuntu.com" results please
[05:29] <savr> where are the new ubuntu/android tablets!!!!!!
[05:29] <asdfasdf_> ping ubuntu.com: unknown host
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> savr:  not seen any out.. so theres no 'new' ones.. no old ones eigther
[05:29] <savr> someone send the memo to manufacturers that ubuntu/android demand is HUGE!
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> savr:  this isent really the right channle for  ranting like that
[05:30] <administrator_> hello
[05:30] <savr> they will be rolling in money by not having to compete against windows 8. They will have a MONOPOLY!
[05:30] <savr> ok
[05:30] <nydel> asdfasdf_: in your panel, up top, there is an icon for the network. check to see you are connected to the right one. then go to the bottom & select "connection information"
[05:30] <administrator_> 你们好
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> and no they wont have a nonoply..
[05:30] <kb> is the mode line for a given resolution at a given refresh rate constant?
[05:31] <asdfasdf_> i am connected to the right network and what information do you require from connection information specifically?
[05:31] <nydel> *** please try to keep offtopic in #ubuntu-offtopic ***
[05:31] <kb> like the following always holds? - # 1280x1024 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 64.0kHz ModeLine "1280x1024" 108.0   1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
[05:31] <st3el_> The teeworlds website says "Start the server by running "teeworlds_srv -f my_server_config.cfg"
[05:31] <nydel> asdfasdf_: your dns
[05:31] <st3el_> how do I "run" that?
[05:31] <WanderingEnder> Hey, new 12.04 install. I have a DVI integrated graphics card outputting to a VGA monitor. PC cannot pull EDID. How can I manually set 1280x1024 res in Ubuntu 12.04?
[05:31] <nydel> asdfasdf_: forget that, i see you wanna move faster.
[05:31] <asdfasdf_> primary dns is: 192.169.1.1
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> Steeltip:  from the terminal.
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> oops..
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> st3el_:  via the terminal
[05:32] <nydel> asdfasdf_: what fixes the problem? rebooting the machine?
[05:32] <asdfasdf_> rebooting doesn't fix the problem
[05:32] <nydel> asdfasdf_: (not "fixes" but you understand what i mean)
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> st3el_:  you may want to rread a few bash bsic tutorials.
[05:32] <st3el_> Dr_Willis, I attempted to type in "teeworlds_srv -f my_server_config.cfg"
[05:32] <nydel> asdfasdf_: you are on the network but have no internet access?
[05:32] <kb> anybody know about modelines?
[05:32] <asdfasdf_> thats correct, nydel
[05:33] <st3el_> Dr_Willis, into the terminal
[05:33] <asdfasdf_> nothing has changed except the router has been reset and reconfigured
[05:33] <st3el_> and it didn't run
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> st3el_: what did it do....
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> 'it dident run' tells us very little..
[05:33] <nydel> asdfasdf_: what is 192.168.1.2, a windows machine?
[05:33] <asdfasdf_> nydel, i guess so, yes
[05:33] <st3el_> Dr_Willis, "command not found"
[05:33] <st3el_> and I pasted it directly into the terminal
[05:33] <asdfasdf_> 192.168.1.1 is router, .2 wuld probably be my windows machine
[05:34] <nydel> asdfasdf_: is there a windows machine on the network?
[05:34] <nydel> asdfasdf_: got it
[05:34] <asdfasdf_> the windows machine connects fine
[05:34] <asdfasdf_> that is what i am on now
[05:34] <nydel> asdfasdf_: ping 192.168.1.2
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> st3el_:  so that tells us you are noit in the right directory.   if the tea world command is in the TeeWorld dir.. yoiu need to be in that directory. and use  the ./commandname type  syntax to run it
[05:34] <asdfasdf_> ping 192.168.1.2: 56(84) bytes of data
[05:34] <st3el_> Dr_Willis, oooh
[05:35] <st3el_> Dr_Willis, that makes perfect sense
[05:35] <asdfasdf_> and the cursor is sitting htere...
[05:35] <nydel> asdfasdf_: still hanging?
[05:35] <asdfasdf_> still hanging
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> logical. ;)
[05:35] <st3el_> Dr_Willis, where are applications located?
[05:35] <nydel> asdfasdf_: okay
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> st3el_:  no idea.. where did you put it..
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> st3el_:  how did you install it?
[05:35] <st3el_> Dr_Willis, I installed it via the ubuntu software center
[05:35] <st3el_> Dr_Willis, Its automated...
[05:35] <nydel> asdfasdf_: http://192.168.1.1 -- use .2 for this
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> st3el_:  no idea then. if teeworld_srv is the proper command - it should be in your default path.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> so should work fromanywhere
[05:36] <nydel> asdfasdf_: i assume you are on .2 right now?
[05:36] <spronk> how safe is it to remove networkmanager?
[05:36] <asdfasdf_> do you want me to log into my router to check?
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> !find teeworld
[05:36] <asdfasdf_> sorry, what are you asking me?
[05:37] <st3el_> Dr_Willis, would I have to run the command while I'm inside the directory or would it automatically locate the file?
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> st3el_:  you did instggall teeworlds-server
[05:37] <asdfasdf_> 192.168.1.1 is router
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> st3el_:  if you ysed the pavkage manater - its in your path. the directory shouldent matter
[05:37] <nydel> asdfasdf_: what is the ip of the machine you are currently using
[05:37] <st3el_> Dr_Willis, I assumed it was the server package came with the software
[05:38] <asdfasdf_> one moment nydel i will log into the router to find out
[05:38] <asdfasdf_> yo mean local ip right?
[05:38] <nydel> asdfasdf_: no need
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> st3el_:  that dosent make sence.. since theres 3 selperate teeworlds packages in the repos
[05:38] <nydel> asdfasdf_: are you on your windows computer?
[05:38] <asdfasdf_> yes
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> !find teeworld
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> !info teeworlds-server
[05:38] <nydel> asdfasdf_: okay that's what i was asking. that machine is called .2 now.
[05:38] <nydel> asdfasdf_: use .2 to http 192.168.1.1
[05:39] <st3el_> Dr_Willis, How do I get a list via the repos
[05:39] <asdfasdf_> i'm not following...
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> st3el_:  the bot just showed you the package names..
[05:39] <st3el_> Dr_Willis, as I've noted I'm not the most advanced linux user
[05:39] <asdfasdf_> you want me to log into 192.168.1.1 on windows machine
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> st3el_:  apt-cache search patternname
[05:39] <nydel> asdfasdf_: open your web client of choice & type "http://192.168.1.1" into the location bar
[05:39] <asdfasdf_> i am logged into the router, nydel. yes.
[05:39] <asdfasdf_> on my windows machine.
[05:39] <asdfasdf_> that is 192.168.1.1
[05:40] <baazigar> W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[05:40] <baazigar> i got this error
[05:40] <baazigar> when i sudo apt-get update
[05:40] <baazigar> I get this error at sudo apt-get update W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[05:40] <nydel> asdfasdf_: in terminal "hostname"
[05:40] <nydel> asdfasdf_: do you see it in the router's http control panel
[05:40] <asdfasdf_> hostname is "sloop"
[05:40] <asdfasdf_> yes i see it there
[05:41] <asdfasdf_> its connected with a MAC and an IP
[05:41] <asdfasdf_> on DHCP
[05:41] <asdfasdf_> and on wireless
[05:41] <nydel> asdfasdf_: that's a single connection, just wireless no wired, yes?
[05:41] <asdfasdf_> no wired, correct
[05:41] <asdfasdf_> single connection, correct
[05:42] <st3el_> Dr_Willis, how do I get the file apt-cache download filename? or something
[05:42] <nydel> asdfasdf_: do you object to setting 192.168.1.3 as DMZ?
[05:42] <asdfasdf_> i'm not overly familiar with DMZ
[05:42] <nydel> asdfasdf_: your router make?
[05:42] <asdfasdf_> how does that work, and why would i need to do this if it worked previously?
[05:42] <asdfasdf_> its a dlink-something
[05:42] <asdfasdf_> do you need the model number?
[05:43] <nydel> asdfasdf_: it worked previously? i thought you said you changed the router
[05:43] <nydel> asdfasdf_: that is, modified the router
[05:43] <asdfasdf_> my apolgoies for not being clear
[05:43] <asdfasdf_> the router reset itself, its the same router, i simply had to set up the connection with my isp again
[05:44] <nydel> asdfasdf_: i assume you have reset the router & modem?
[05:44] <kb> nobody here knows much about troublshooting monitor resolution issues?
[05:44] <asdfasdf_> i have reset it, yes
[05:44] <asdfasdf_> it reset itself back to factory, and then i reset it again after that, then put in all the IPS information, and its back to normal
[05:45] <asdfasdf_> (i do not know why it reset itself, perhaps because its a bit of an old modem)
[05:45] <nydel> asdfasdf_: since the router reset itself, have you reset it?
[05:45] <asdfasdf_> *ISP
[05:45] <asdfasdf_> yes, i have reset it again since it reset itself
[05:45] <cpet> kb what issues?
[05:45] <cpet> ok
[05:46] <cpet> asdfasdf_: modems can be reset from the ISP
[05:46] <nydel> asdfasdf_: when you say you had to set up the connection with your isp again, what exactly did that entail?
[05:46] <asdfasdf_> when i say i set up the connection again, all i mean is i had to enter all the username/password information again
[05:46] <cpet> my dsl modem gets reset whenever i change the ip from 192.x to 10.x
[05:46] <cpet> about 5 days later my router is reset back to 192.
[05:47] <nydel> asdfasdf_: where did you enter that information?
[05:47] <asdfasdf_> into the router webpanel at 192.168.1.1
[05:47] <st3el_> Can someone help me download a file from the repository I'm not quite sure how
[05:47] <cpet> st3el_: apt-get install program
[05:47] <st3el_> cpet, thank you
[05:47] <nydel> asdfasdf_: remove the wireless network from your networks in ubuntu
[05:48] <asdfasdf_> you mean, edit connections, and delete?
[05:48] <nydel> at Edit Connections
[05:48] <asdfasdf_> ok done
[05:48] <asdfasdf_> and reset it up again?
[05:48] <nydel> then disable wireless & re-enable
[05:48] <asdfasdf_> ok
[05:48] <baazigar> Please help: I get this error at sudo apt-get update W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[05:48] <asdfasdf_> i have done that, i can see my network there again
[05:48] <nydel> go ahead & connect to it
[05:49] <asdfasdf_> connection established
[05:49] <nydel> asdfasdf_: does this fix the problem?
[05:49] <nydel> asdfasdf_: ping ubuntu.com
[05:49] <asdfasdf_> attempting to ping google...
[05:49] <asdfasdf_> hanging...
[05:49] <asdfasdf_> unknown host
[05:50] <asdfasdf_> just on phone with isp too
[05:51] <nydel> asdfasdf_: ping 74.125.227.83
[05:52] <nydel> asdfasdf_: if that does not work then do this
[05:52] <nydel> asdfasdf_: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:53] <asdfasdf_> no result
[05:53] <asdfasdf_> one moment...
[05:54] <Guest10899> still nothing
[05:54] <nydel> asdfasdf_: no result for networking restart?
[05:55] <nydel> asdfasdf_: is your windows connection wired?
[05:55] <Guest10899> wireless
[05:56] <Guest10899> its me the Shadowcat
[05:56] <asdfasdf_> no result for networking restart
[05:56] <nydel> asdfasdf_: do you mean it restarted but the problem persists?
[05:58] <Ali_nz1> is there a easy way to get a file from a ssh shell to another computer, a windows machine, perhaps via email?
[05:58] <asdfasdf_> ok, yes, restarted networking, problem persists
[05:58] <asdfasdf_> wait wait, no sorry...
[05:58] <asdfasdf_> the result from networking restart was...
[05:58] <sauvin> Ali_nz1, if you can ssh to it, you can scp or sftp.
[05:58] <asdfasdf_> "restart is deprecated because it may not be enabled again some interfaces"
[05:59] <asdfasdf_> "reconfiguring networking interfaces.."
[05:59] <asdfasdf_> then back to command line
[05:59] <nydel> Ali_nz1: you can use sftp with ubuntu
[05:59] <Ali_nz1> yeah then I need a sftp server on win7 machine to receive the files?
[06:00] <asdfasdf_> my ISP can't help me, they say there is no reason for it to not connect, try setting secrutiy off and try connecting a wired ethernet... so i can do that as last resort
[06:00] <nydel> Ali_nz1: i recommend WinSCP for windows, connect to the machine with that
[06:01] <nydel> asdfasdf_: do you have a wired network option for the laptop
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> winscp - a  must have ;)
[06:01] <nydel> Dr_Willis: as usual you're not wrong ;)
[06:01] <asdfasdf_> i can try wired, however my cord is dodgy, i'll try to plug it in...
[06:01] <nydel> asdfasdf_: stop jumping ahead please
[06:02] <nydel> asdfasdf_: connect your ubuntu machine directly to the modem.
[06:02] <asdfasdf_> ok, i'm plugging in wired cord to modem and laptop
[06:03] <asdfasdf_> connection establihsed and i can ping google
[06:03] <asdfasdf_> so it must be a wireless problem...
[06:03] <nydel> asdfasdf_: how are you still online?
[06:03] <asdfasdf_> i'm online on my windows machine
[06:03] <asdfasdf_> wirelessly
[06:03] <nydel> asdfasdf_: did you plug the machine into the router or the modem?
[06:03] <asdfasdf_> i plugged an ethernet cable in
[06:03] <lzhang> I'm updating grub on a virtualbox vm of precise, and grub is asking me to choose the correct location for a new disk to install the GRUB boot loader. Any clues on which one is appropriate? I have 3 options: VBOX_HARDDISK, /boot and precise64-root...
[06:03] <asdfasdf_> the router and modem are one device
[06:04] <nydel> asdfasdf_: it's a dlink router with a modem inside of it?
[06:04] <asdfasdf_> yes
[06:04] <asdfasdf_> wireless modem
[06:05] <nydel> asdfasdf_: it plugs into the cable directly?
[06:05] <asdfasdf_> yes, it has 4 ethernet ports as well, and its plugged in on the ethernet and i can ping google
[06:05] <asdfasdf_> (the ubuntu computer, that is)
[06:06] <nydel> asdfasdf_: okay on ubuntu do "hostname -I"
[06:06] <nydel> is it .3 & .4?
[06:06] <asdfasdf_> hostname is 192.168.1.4 192.168.1.3
[06:07] <nydel> set your wireless to demand 192.168.1.5 in Edit Connections, the connection, ipv4 settings
[06:07] <nydel> asdfasdf_: ^
[06:08] <asdfasdf_> ok one moment... shoudl i leave the wired still connected btw?
[06:08] <nydel> asdfasdf_: yes for now, we'll kill it when we wanna test
[06:08] <nydel> asdfasdf_: is there any security on the wireless network?
[06:08] <asdfasdf_> for some reason i can't get the "edit connects" window to come up
[06:08] <asdfasdf_> yes there is wpa2
[06:08] <asdfasdf_> sorry, just wpa
[06:09] <asdfasdf_> nevermind, network connections box is up...
[06:09] <asdfasdf_> changing info
[06:09] <Syria> Please help with creating a tunnel with my VPS over ssh the i want to apply it system wide as a proxy!
[06:09] <nydel> asdfasdf_: did you set WPA/WPA2 Personal & the Password under Security?
[06:09] <st3el_> I'm trying "sudo apt-get teeworlds-server
[06:10] <st3el_> " and it says invalid operation. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong please
[06:10] <lzhang> st3el_: perhaps you mean "apt-get install"
[06:10] <nydel> st3el_: sudo apt-get install teenworlds-server"
[06:10] <asdfasdf_> the password is set correctly adn WPA is set for security
[06:10] <nydel> what lzhang said
[06:10] <st3el_> mmh
[06:10] <st3el_> that sounds right let me try
[06:10] <asdfasdf_> are you saying i change IPv4 settings to "manual" and then enter the address as 192.168.1.5?
[06:11] <asdfasdf_> what about netmask and gateway?
[06:11] <nydel> asdfasdf_: actually i think you should try this instead
[06:11] <nydel> asdfasdf_: keep the edit settings open
[06:11] <nydel> asdfasdf_: add a new network
[06:11] <asdfasdf_> ok...
[06:11] <curiousx> sry but... what is your wireless network card ? asdfasdf_
[06:11] <nydel> asdfasdf_: copy all the information over to the new network by hand
[06:12] <asdfasdf_> its in-built, i don't know
[06:12] <curiousx> ok
[06:12] <openboxarch> lsmod
[06:12] <nydel> curiousx: we do know that it has worked previously with this set up, asdfasdf_ says the only change is the resetting of the wireless-modem
[06:13] <curiousx> lspci asdfasdf_ lspci | grep 802
[06:13] <asdfasdf_> that is correct
[06:13] <curiousx> nydel: ok
[06:14] <asdfasdf_> err... lspci?
[06:14] <Chuck_Norris> i was curious about his wireless network card, that all =P
[06:14] <asdfasdf_> can you restate the lspci command?
[06:14] <asdfasdf_> what is the asdfasdf part?
[06:14] <Chuck_Norris> lspci | grep 802
[06:14] <robbmunson> lspci | grep 802
[06:14] <asdfasdf_> i tried that and nothing came up
[06:14] <Chuck_Norris> ok
[06:15] <nydel> Chuck_Norris: this could be helpful but 802 isn't the right exp
[06:15] <Chuck_Norris> paste lspci please
[06:15] <Chuck_Norris> nydel: it does for me
[06:15] <nydel> Chuck_Norris: & 9/10 others
[06:15] <asdfasdf_> i can't copypaste from here, but i can type out the output, its a lot of output... what specificalyl are you interested in?
[06:16] <openboxarch> Afterraff`: lsusb
[06:16] <robbmunson> Chuck_Norris, "works for me" doesn't work for all. ;-)
[06:16] <nydel> asdfasdf_: lspci | grep - i ethernet
[06:16] <openboxarch> asdfasdf_: lsusb
[06:16] <Chuck_Norris> ok that's all -.- robbmunson ;)
[06:16] <openboxarch> asdfasdf_: is it a pci or usb stick?
[06:16] <nydel> asdfasdf_: please try mine first
[06:16] <asdfasdf_> ethernet controller: atheros communications AR8131 gigabit ethernet (rev c0)
[06:16] <nydel> thank you
[06:17] <asdfasdf_> in-built, openboxarch
[06:17] <nydel> asdfasdf_: http://www.chipdrivers.com/chipset/network-adapter/atheros/ar8131/linux/
[06:17] <openboxarch> asdfasdf_: already see :P
[06:18] <nydel> asdfasdf_: are you able to handle installing those drivers?
[06:18] <asdfasdf_> errm.. is it just a question of downloading and double clikcing?
[06:19] <asdfasdf_> the drivers are unavailable on this website
[06:19] <asdfasdf_> when i click download i get "web page not vailable"
[06:20] <nydel> asdfasdf_: you're using firefox i suppose. hold a moment
[06:20] <asdfasdf_> chrome
[06:20] <asdfasdf_> i uninstalled firefox because i initially thought it was a firefox-specific problem
[06:20] <maysara> Hi, I have a x64 processor. which version of ubuntu is better to install 32-bit or 64-bit?
[06:20] <Chuck_Norris> asdfasdf_: paste: lsmod | grep 802
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> maysara:  i always use 64bit on 64bit hardware
[06:21] <asdfasdf_> lsmod | grep 802...
[06:21] <asdfasdf_> mac80211
[06:21] <asdfasdf_> cfg80211
[06:21] <asdfasdf_> and two additional columns, you need that info?
[06:21] <nydel> maysara: x64 is beautiful for me
[06:21] <moment> hey guys i just got a "serious errors were found when checking the disk drive for /" on boot
[06:21] <Chuck_Norris> asdfasdf_: ye
[06:21] <asdfasdf_> mac80211       436455         1 iwlwifi
[06:21] <maysara> Dr_Willis: thx a lot!
[06:21] <moment> and then it tells me to ignore, skip, or do manual recovery
[06:21] <Chuck_Norris> ok
[06:22] <asdfasdf_> cfg80211              178679   2    iwlwifi, mac80211
[06:22] <maysara> nydel: thx
[06:22] <moment> but i can't do fsck /dev/sda5 because then it tells me that it's already in us
[06:22] <moment> e
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> moment:  you may want to boot a live cd and fsck it by hand from the live cd
[06:22] <moment> like filesystem already mounted or opened by another program?
[06:22] <nydel> maysara: very welcome, if you need support along the way we'll be here :)
[06:22] <Chuck_Norris> asdfasdf_: try this: sudo rmmod iwlwifi
[06:22] <moment> live cd? can i do that on a usb drive?
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> live cd=liveusb
[06:22] <moment> okay
[06:22] <Chuck_Norris> and then this: sudo modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1
[06:22] <asdfasdf_> ok, chuck
[06:22] <DrManhattan> I need some help with v4l please - how do I view my cx2388x dvb device with a v4l viewer - zoneminder in particular
[06:23] <maysara> nydel: OK sure
[06:23] <asdfasdf_> output of modprobe command is
[06:23] <asdfasdf_> WARNING: all config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.modprobe, it will be ignored in a future realase
[06:23] <moment> why do i get these problems in the first place?
[06:23] <asdfasdf_> wireless network just popped up as though it reconnected
[06:23] <moment> it very often checks my disks and repairs automatically
[06:23] <moment> and now i got a serious error and i have to do it manually
[06:24] <moment> i just don't get it 'cause if i ignore then it's working fine (like right now)
[06:24] <asdfasdf_> i hope i didn't get my l's and 1's mixed up here...
[06:24] <Chuck_Norris> asdfasdf_: did you do: sudo modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1
[06:24] <asdfasdf_> no, i don't believe i have...
[06:25] <Chuck_Norris> ye
[06:25] <asdfasdf_> yes i did that and i posted you the responce above
[06:25] <asdfasdf_> *response
[06:25] <nydel> Chuck_Norris: i don't follow what you're doing, is this a superfluous device?
[06:25] <asdfasdf_> hold on
[06:26] <asdfasdf_> chuck norris.. that fixed the probelm
[06:26] <asdfasdf_> i am connected on the wireless now
[06:26] <nydel> way to go Chuck_Norris
[06:26] <Chuck_Norris> :D
[06:26] <Chuck_Norris> i knew it
[06:26] <nydel> was it a superfluous device?
[06:26] <asdfasdf_> what a champion!
[06:26] <Chuck_Norris> Chuck_Norris rocks!!
[06:26] <Chuck_Norris> Yeahh!! :D xD
[06:26] <asdfasdf_> thanks so much you guys
[06:26] <Chuck_Norris> ye i am
[06:26] <Chuck_Norris> np
[06:26] <nydel> Chuck_Norris rocks if he tells me what he disabled
[06:26] <asdfasdf_> chants *chuck norris chuck norris chuck norris*
[06:27] <Chuck_Norris> nydel: just secrets of the busines you know
[06:27] <nydel> Chuck_Norris: yeah, fun. what was it?
[06:27] <asdfasdf_> and thank you so much nydel as well
[06:27] <asdfasdf_> you were great
[06:27] <robbmunson> Chuck_Norris, in Ubuntu, there should be no secrets.
[06:27] <robbmunson> :-)
[06:27] <Chuck_Norris> xD
[06:27] <nydel> asdfasdf_: apologies for the wild goose chase. enjoy
[06:27] <asdfasdf_> really, i appreciate the help so much
[06:27] <Chuck_Norris> well i really don't know
[06:27] <asdfasdf_> no wild goose chase, nydel, you helped a lot
[06:27] <asdfasdf_> i'll see you later guys
[06:27] <asdfasdf_> thanks so much again
[06:27] <nydel> yw
[06:28] <orated> Is there a minimal version of lubuntu - apt-get install lxdm lxde lxlauncher lubuntu-desktop - ?
[06:28] <asdfasdf_> <3 ubuntu
[06:28] <nydel> Chuck_Norris: i need to be able to solve this issue for other people.
[06:28] <Chuck_Norris> but... i have a friend that has the same problem with iwlwifi module
[06:28] <nydel> Chuck_Norris: okay "problem with iwlwifi module" is enough -- thanks bud
[06:28] <xangua> !minimal | orated
[06:28] <Chuck_Norris> and one time months ago we solve it i help her, i found the solution in a ubuntu forums just made a .txt and now i work again :D
[06:29] <Chuck_Norris> nydel: np
[06:29] <nydel> Chuck_Norris: i wouldn't have found that, i was going to make him install drivers manually & set up a device by hand lol
[06:30] <Chuck_Norris> xD ye, is very dificult to know what is happening in networks isues
[06:30] <robbmunson> nydel, from New Orleans, LA, USA to Baton Rouge, LA, USA...by way of China, lol.
[06:30] <nydel> Chuck_Norris: especially since, by definition, we can't connect to them
[06:31] <Chuck_Norris> ye :D
[06:31] <nydel> robbmunson: complete w/ all the scenic routes & stops to smell each rose. sigh!
[06:31] <maverick> hello.. i used samba to transfer some files across my ubuntu and windows 7 systems
[06:31] <maverick> now my ubuntu system shows those files as nobody :P
[06:32] <fidel> maverick: you mean: the files are now owned by 'nobody'
[06:32] <fidel> ?
[06:33] <maverick> yes fidel
[06:33] <Chuck_Norris> ups! i forget say to asddf that he should write both commands in /etc/rc.local  'coz when reboot he wont connect again using his wireless =P
[06:34] <nydel> Chuck_Norris: l, o, l. hopefully he never reboots.
[06:35] <Chuck_Norris> xD
[06:35] <Chuck_Norris> if i'm not here sure someone will tell him =)
[06:36] <nydel> hey Chuck_Norris he was ~chatzilla@ppp118-208-211-78.lns20.hba1.internode.on.net -- think we can get a messsage to him from that?
[06:37] <Chuck_Norris> nydel: lol how we can do it? with a IRC bot?
[06:38] <nydel> Chuck_Norris: well, i'm actually running an eggdrop, i didn't think of that -- i was suggesting a ridiculously difficult hacking challenge
[06:39] <Chuck_Norris> xD idk about it, i'll wait him a minutes i hope he reboot the machine right now xD
[06:40] <nydel> slash topic remember to wait around for about 15 minutes after we close your ticket, as we have forgotten to tell you something
[06:40] <robbmunson> nydel, lol.
[06:40] <nydel> :)
[06:41] <robbmunson> *closes chat before you remind me this command may "brick" my machine*
[06:41] <nydel> haha
[06:42] <crazicoder_99> hi buddyes
[06:42] <nydel> hail, crazicoder_99
[06:46] <SubjectOne> anybody here who already has "the leap" and knows if it works for ubuntu ?
[06:46] <zombifier> the what
[06:47] <nydel> ^Dorthaki for "no"
[06:47] <SubjectOne> http://r3dux.org/2012/05/the-leap-motion-input-device-looks-incredible/
[06:47] <SubjectOne> its an external 3D IO device
[06:48] <nydel> i can't see it, that link wants to run too much javascript on me
[06:48] <SubjectOne> oh sec
[06:48] <SubjectOne> http://www.leapmotion.com/
[06:48] <nydel> i DOM't let irc links do that
[06:48] <SubjectOne> original site
[06:49] <Boohbah> SubjectOne: the sensor’s only meant to be around the $70 mark when they come out.
[06:49] <qwebirc21264> can anyone for god sakes please help me
[06:49] <Boohbah> SubjectOne: so, have they started producing them yet?
[06:49] <qwebirc21264> i need to install league of legends on ubuntu
[06:50] <qwebirc21264> help?
[06:50] <SubjectOne> a limited number are currently available
[06:50] <SubjectOne> ah for pre-order
[06:50] <nydel> SubjectOne: it's like a retina display hooked up with a theremin
[06:50] <Boohbah> qwebirc21264: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=10436
[06:50] <SubjectOne> sorry about that
[06:50] <SubjectOne> hmmm
[06:50] <arejay> whats the best way to back up my entire ~/ including keys etc i get permission denied errors
[06:50] <qwebirc21264> i wanna play league of legends
[06:50] <qwebirc21264> helppppppp
[06:50] <qwebirc21264> someone?
[06:50] <reisio> arejay: permission denied for what?
[06:50] <SubjectOne> looks cewl that thingi
[06:51] <reisio> qwebirc21264: Boohbah already helped you
[06:51] <qwebirc21264> oh lol
[06:51] <qwebirc21264> heh
[06:51] <Boohbah> qwebirc21264: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19141
[06:51] <qwebirc21264> wow
[06:51] <qwebirc21264> thank you
[06:51] <qwebirc21264> imm stupid
[06:51] <qwebirc21264> :D
[06:51] <arejay> reisio: i was just using tar cf home.tar /home/me
[06:51] <FloodBot1> qwebirc21264: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:51] <arejay> and it couldnt copy some .secure stuff
[06:51] <arejay> etc
[06:52] <reisio> arejay: you must have copied/created some stuff as root in there
[06:52] <qwebirc21264> i have no idea how to use, ubuntu thanks for the help. lets see where this brings me
[06:52] <reisio> arejay: run the tar with sudo, or find out which files are not owned by your user and why
[06:52] <nydel> SubjectOne: pretty cool item, hadn't seen that anywhere
[06:52] <arejay> will do thanks
[06:52] <SubjectOne> i've seen a demo on drupa
[06:52] <SubjectOne> and i must say it's over the top accurate
[06:53] <SubjectOne> but it lacks control software
[06:53] <nydel> SubjectOne: so is a theremin, but nobody can play those.. is what i would worry about
[06:53] <SubjectOne> i would like to write an OSD for that
[06:53] <nydel> SubjectOne: unless you mean accurate as in it corrects to what you meant
[06:54] <SubjectOne> no, accurate in guestures ( follows the top of your vingers ) but it lacks for the moment ( like hold a pc key like ctrl or alt etc ... )
[06:54] <Boohbah> SubjectOne: you should contact the company and ask them about linux support
[06:55] <SubjectOne> i haven't seen it double click or something, just rotate, zoom
[06:55] <nydel> SubjectOne: big project, the leap osd.. think you'll take it on? i'd donate a case of jolt
[06:55] <SubjectOne> yeah i'll send a mail to the dev's
[06:55] <SubjectOne> is this is worked out properly it would revolutionize computer usage
[06:56] <Kinter> i was wondering, is there any way to track the usernames people are using when they're connected to a pptpd VPN
[06:56] <Kinter> ?
[06:56] <l0tus> wee
[06:56] <SubjectOne> no longer 2D interface, but 3D is possible with rotating dimension
[06:56] <SubjectOne> omg a wet dream come true
[06:56] <nydel> i was looking at these displays that are meant for windows 8, they are a laptop screen with the keyboard then the other side is an independent instance of whatever xwindows is over there, but it's only touch screen. so one person can be using the front for documents or something & another touch-screening an app
[06:56] <reisio> SubjectOne: whoa, $70?
[06:56] <nydel> i was wondering if linux will support those
[06:56] <reisio> that'd be sweet
[06:57] <nydel> i'd rather have a "the leap" though
[06:57] <SubjectOne> its kinda cheap ( kinect is much more )
[06:57] <moment> hey i am getting a "serious errors were found when checing disk drive" so i made a livecd and i'm trying to run fsck from there, but fsck doesn't do anything
[06:57] <moment> it just lists number of blocks or something
[06:57] <moment> exits after 0.000001sec
[06:57] <moment> and i still have the problems
[06:58] <reisio> SubjectOne: pretty fancy tech for under $100
[06:58] <nydel> moment: go into recovery console at boot, logged in as root & run fsck from there
[06:58] <reisio> of course they say it isn't coming till Dec/Jan, so... dunno how reliable that is
[06:59] <moment> nydel, but i can't, it says that the disk is in use
[07:00] <moment> i mean, if you mean the "manual recovery" option i get when i get the "serious errors were found"
[07:00] <nydel> moment: you can't boot?
[07:00] <moment> yes i can, i'm booted right now
[07:00] <moment> it's this disk that's giving me problems
[07:01] <moment> i just ignore it for now but i want to fix it
[07:01] <SubjectOne> yeah, same thoughts about that ( i vision a OSD customisable on the fly like on the left side a slider with holdkeys - ALT, CTRL, etc ,, virtual keyboard, and the option to project it virtually lateron on the google-glass ( so a complete virtual-alternate HUD is possible ) that would be the next gen solution. ( like in minorty report the movie, or like mnemonic )
[07:01] <bazhang> !ot | SubjectOne
[07:01] <nydel> moment: you have to boot into recovery mode
[07:02] <SubjectOne> oh ubottu, adjust your AI
[07:02] <SubjectOne> :p
[07:02] <moment> and then i can run fsck /dev/sda5 from there?
[07:02] <bazhang> SubjectOne, take chit chat elsewhere, thanks
[07:02] <SubjectOne> kk
[07:02] <moment> i mean, isn't my disk in use from recovery mode too?
[07:02] <moment> because then it gives me "filesystem already mounted or opened exclusively by another program?"
[07:02] <maverick> umm sorry fidel.. i got disconnected
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> if its mounted 'read only' you can fsck it i belive moment
[07:03] <maverick> fidel u there???
[07:03] <moment> okay but some other dude told me that i should check it from livecd, and i don't get why it would work in recovery mode when it will not work from livecd
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> moment:  i normally keep a mini live cd/usb handy to boot to do fscking of  system filssyems when they get messed up
[07:03] <nydel> Dr_Willis: is the best way into recovery mode to use grub2?
[07:04] <maverick> files  are owned by nobody after samba transfer from windows machine
[07:04] <moment> Dr_Willis, yea i have that but fsck doesn't do anything when i run it from livecd
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> moment:  thats.. not a good sign.
[07:04] <moment> it prints out like 4 lines, saying how many blocks there are on the disk or something and then that is it
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> moment:  unless you did it wrong. ;)
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> fsck /dev/sdxy   - so its sort of hard to do it wrong.
[07:05] <moment> i did
[07:05] <moment> fsck /dev/sda5
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> be curious if you fsck, then try to mount it from a livd cd. if it would give some error.
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> 'dmesg' command may mention any errors it has also
[07:05] <moment> well i did accidentally mount it first
[07:06] <moment> and then it gave me "filesystem in use" and then i unmounted and ran it
[07:06] <moment> the fsck thing
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> as long as its unmounted - shouldent matter.
[07:06] <moment> okay i'm going to try recovery mode and then i'm going to try livecd again
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> no erorr when you mounted it?
[07:06] <moment> brb!
[07:06] <moment> yea no error
[07:06] <qwebirc21264> i need some help getting rid of ubuntu
[07:07] <nydel> good luck moment !!!!
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> check dmesg output moment
[07:07] <moment> thanks :)
[07:07] <moment> yes i will
[07:07] <maverick> can please someone help me???
[07:07] <qwebirc21264> i need to go back to windows
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> qwebirc21264:  clarifyyyy  what you mean.
[07:07] <maverick> my files show as owned by nobody :P
[07:07] <zombifier> was it a Wubi or dual boot
[07:07] <qwebirc21264> i cant run the operating system disk
[07:07] <qwebirc21264> for windows anymore
[07:07] <qwebirc21264> because i deleted the partition or waterver
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> use the windows recovery dvd set, or dvd from the makers
[07:08] <qwebirc21264> even with linux installed?
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> you can boot a dvd..
[07:08] <nydel> maverick: all your files are owned by nobody?
[07:08] <maverick> not all
[07:08] <maverick> just those folders that i transferred from windows machine
[07:08] <maverick> using samba
[07:08] <qwebirc21264> i need you to break this down to simple terms
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> qwebirc21264:  get windows dvd's boot them, reinstall. see #windows for more help
[07:09] <maverick> with a BIG lock on them :(
[07:09] <qwebirc21264> i burn a version of windows... i pop it into the cd... it doesnt work.. i read i need a kill disk
[07:09] <bazhang> qwebirc21264, ##windows
[07:10] <nydel> maverick: what happens?
[07:10] <maverick> unable to cut/delete
[07:10] <maverick> nor change permissions
[07:10] <nydel> maverick: when you do "sudo chown (your user name) file"
[07:10] <maverick> just a moment.. will do and let u know
[07:11] <N3WB13> hi can i do a simple question? :)
[07:11] <nydel> N3WB13: please do
[07:11] <maverick> nydel.. the lock symbol vanished
[07:12] <nydel> maverick: this is good, yes?
[07:12] <moment> hello guys, i
[07:12] <nydel> hi moment
[07:13] <moment> i'm from the livecd, it didn't work from recovery mode the fsck thing
[07:13] <maverick> but files and folders inside contain the same symbol again
[07:13] <maverick> so do i need to do it every time or any batch thingy?? :P
[07:13] <maverick> yes that's good
[07:13] <nydel> maverick: is it one folder's contents?
[07:14] <moment> http://pastebin.com/hjJbx1nZ this is what it says when i run ... well it's all there
[07:14] <N3WB13> i need to know how change the permission for to install as normal user (no root)
[07:14] <maverick> there is a folder downloads -> inside that there are 3 folders that have a nobody padlock..
[07:14] <maverick> inside the folders there are many files and folders having the same symbol..
[07:14] <maverick> am able to open but not delete and stuff
[07:15] <nydel> maverick: sudo chown [username] ~/Downloads/*
[07:15] <maverick> thanks nydel :)
[07:15] <maverick> glad u helped :)
[07:15] <nydel> maverick: happy to
[07:16] <N3WB13> my problem: newbie is not in the sudoers file XD
[07:16] <moment> hey guys does anybody know why fsck doesn't really run?
[07:17] <n0p_> visudo
[07:17] <bolosaur> Hi. I'm running a 32-bit Ubuntu 12.04 LTS server and I'm having some issues with screens. Yesterday I set up one screen to run irssi, and today when I'm logging on, there are *two* screens available, out of which none can be resumed. If I do screen -ls the list reads "<XXXX>.irssi (<date>) (Attached), <XXXX>.pts-2.<machine name> (<date>) (Detached), 2 Sockets in /var/run/screen/S-<machine name>."
[07:17] <bolosaur> Any ideas? I don't understnad what's going on.
[07:17] <bolosaur> Also, I'm quite new to Linux, just fyi.
[07:17] <nydel> N3WB13: what are you trying to do? i think you might try "man chroot"
[07:18] <amanthakur> Hi guys,
[07:18] <busfahrer> Excuse me, is there a way to keep Ubuntu from automatically mounting an USB stick after I insert it? (Just for one time?)
[07:18] <bolosaur> If I try to resume a screen, it just goes "There is no screen to be resumed maching irssi."
[07:19] <nydel> busfahrer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[07:19] <maverick> nydel: this helped my sudo chown [username] Downloads/*/*
[07:19] <amanthakur>  I am trying to redirect the output of "xinput test id" to a file but i am not able to do so. I have tried "xinput test id > file"
[07:19] <Devilz> hi i want to ask something about networking.
[07:19] <amh345> evening guys. im feeling like im on crazy pills over here.  im trying to setup googles two-step auth on my server.  and it's all working like a charm until i leave it for 30 minutes and try to log back in. it never ends up accepting my password.  despite me testing and testing it beforehand.  im not sure whats going on.
[07:20] <nydel> maverick: sudo chown -R [username] ~/Downloads
[07:20] <nydel> maverick: the -R is recursive, it changes every directory & file.
[07:20] <nydel> maverick: but yours worked too so, nicely done ;)
[07:20] <amh345> so im attempting another configuration on yet another server.   i read that keypair authentication needs to be turned off to make this work.
[07:20] <maverick> oh
[07:21] <Devilz> Once i stayed in a hotel where they have the service of paid wifi internet. The network is open i mean it can be seen and can be connected to by everyone. But when we try to open any website it opens a page where we need to enter a code which they provide when we pay them. Only after entering the code which is valid for limited time we can use the internet. I want to implement this thing for...
[07:21] <maverick> i guessed and did it :P
[07:21] <Devilz> ...my wifi router. Can anyone give me some direction.
[07:21] <amh345> is this the line i change to 'no' to turn off keypair auth? /etc/ssh/sshd_config  >>  PubkeyAuthentication yes
[07:21] <amh345> is there anything else i need to do turn turn off keypair authentication?
[07:21] <nydel> maverick: if i didn't guess 90% of the time i'd get less than 10% of my work done ;)
[07:21] <maverick> ha ha.. nice one :)
[07:22] <acicula> amh345: nope thats it, but pubkey authentication only works if you have a key set
[07:22] <maverick> i am basically a windows user.. but trying to shift to linux
[07:22] <tol> Devilz: i think ddwrt/openwrt can do this
[07:22] <maverick> coz i find it more geekish :D
[07:22] <acicula> so if you do not have an authorized_keys file it wont work(for your account)
[07:22] <amh345> acicula: i do have a key set. i initially connect with my keypairs. but i want to move away from that.
[07:22] <maverick> Devilz: what is your router model??
[07:22] <tol> Devilz: if you can install this on your router
[07:22] <acicula> amh345: why?
[07:22] <nydel> maverick: & geekish is the new sexy
[07:22] <amh345> could it be im actually forgetting my damn password.  every.single.time.i.test.this?
[07:22] <maverick> may b we can find a openwrt for u
[07:23] <amh345> acicula: im setting up google 2 step authentication
[07:23] <acicula> amh345: with ssh?
[07:23] <maverick> nydel: yeah!!
[07:23] <Devilz> not sure if i can do that on a cisco router.
[07:23] <amh345> acicula: yes
[07:23] <maverick> tell ur model..
[07:23] <maverick> i will let u know
[07:23] <maverick> Devilz: model?
[07:23] <amh345> and i get it to work everytime i set it up. but whenever i come back to it a few hours later. i can never log back in.
[07:23] <Devilz> maverick: don;t know the model. :P
[07:24] <amanthakur> Anyone could help? I am trying to redirect the output of "xinput test id" to a file but i am not able to do so. I have tried "xinput test id > file"
[07:24] <nydel> ooo Devilz 's issue has piqued my interest
[07:24] <acicula> amh345: k, though you can just leave keybased authentication enabled in the deamon and remove the authorized_key and get the same effect. are you dissabling password based logons too?
[07:24] <busfahrer> nydel: Thank you.
[07:24] <maverick> Devilz: check your router's behind :P
[07:24] <maverick> Devilz: i mean the reverse ;)
[07:24] <amh345> acicula: well it works with my user password.
[07:24] <amh345> but the verification code is on my phone.
[07:24] <Devilz> maverick: am at my work place ryt now. router is at home.
[07:25] <maverick> oh! k cool.. u cn contact me when u get home.. may b we cn work something out
[07:25] <amh345> acicula: PasswordAuthentication no  is set that way by default
[07:25] <maverick> thru mail?
[07:25] <acicula> amh345: ah ok so it replaces normal tunneled passwords
[07:25] <maverick> umm i am allowed to share my mail id here right??? :P
[07:25] <amh345> yeah. it's pretty cool.
[07:25] <Devilz> maverick: kk sure. can i have ur mail id?
[07:25] <maverick> mahapatrasworoop@gmail.com
[07:26] <maverick> open invitation to spammers :P
[07:26] <moment> hey guys does anybody have an idea about this? when i boot i get a "serious errors while checing disk drive" but it works alright if it ignore it, now i'm trying to do fsck from a livecd and it only gives me this: http://pastebin.com/hjJbx1nZ and i still get the "serious error" message when i boot
[07:26] <amh345> acicula: but not being able to login in later is driving me mental. i setup the server everytime i test it and get it working. then blam….  cant get back in.
[07:26] <moment> there's nothing in dmesg
[07:26] <acicula> amh345: weird
[07:26] <amh345> acicula: i hate to think im screwing my password up every single time.
[07:26] <Devilz> maverick: will send u a dummy mail ryt now
[07:26] <maverick> :P sure :)
[07:27] <amh345> not to mention it locks me out if i try to many times.  so 6 attempts and im locked out for 5 mins.
[07:27] <amh345> cant even brute force it. heh
[07:27] <maverick> people.. please visit my blog
[07:27] <maverick> technikainc.blogspot.in
[07:27] <nydel> maverick: make yourself a second address @gmail that auto-forwards to your real one
[07:27] <maverick> i hv one.. for my official mails and bank transactions..
[07:28] <maverick> dude!! u from India?? coolz
[07:28] <nydel> blog looks cool maverick, thanks
[07:28] <maverick> thanks :)
[07:28] <Kinter> i was wondering, is there any way to track the usernames from the chap-secrets file that people are using when they're connected to a pptpd VPN?
[07:28] <Devilz> maverick: can u explain the working a lil bit?
[07:28] <maverick> working of??
[07:29] <Devilz> maverick: i mean how would we implement that??
[07:30] <amh345> alright. the new server is working with it.  i've saved all my info. lets see if i can get back in in 20 mins
[07:30] <maverick> well yes.. the openwrt is a firmware, thirdparty not givien by Cisco
[07:31] <maverick> that gives the router more functions..
[07:31] <maverick> depends on router models and all..
[07:31] <bluebomber> Lightdm is not showing some users' wallpapers. Can anyone help me get it back to default behavior?
[07:31] <maverick> is not supported by many models. :)
[07:32] <maverick> nydel: thanks  :)
[07:32] <maverick> will update there.. useful tip.. didn't think of sharing
[07:32] <Devilz> maverick: k apart from that can there be a general solution to the problem? I mean can we implement what i explained for a general purpose ?? i mean that is valid for any router and any model?
[07:33] <nydel> maverick: :)
[07:33] <maverick> Devilz: haven't researched a lot on that.. may b we cn do it together.. some kind of software or something will be available..
[07:34] <c3l> what is the value of the scale factor in a static universe ("einsteins universe"). My intuition tells me that it must simply be one, but in some texts it is only required to be a constant.
[07:34] <Devilz> maverick: k sure...will tell u model no as soon i get to know then we may proceed
[07:34] <maverick> sure :) office se free hoke aajana :)
[07:34] <MonkeyDust> c3l  take that kind of question to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[07:35] <c3l> MonkeyDust: ehh.. sorry I thought I joined #physics, but it appears I failed. thanks
[07:35] <maverick> i gtg guys :) bye Devilz, bye Nydel
[07:35] <Devilz> bye maverick
[07:35] <nydel> alright i gotta take a break see y'all next round
[07:35] <MonkeyDust> c3l  can I pm you about the question?
[07:36] <c3l> MonkeyDust: I'd love that
[07:36] <nydel> c3l: MonkeyDust can i sit in?
[07:37] <nydel> nevermind i'm interested as heck but tired as hell
[07:37] <nydel> xo
[07:37] <MonkeyDust> nydel  if you find a way
[07:37] <moment> man, fsck even gives me an exit code 0, no errors
[07:37] <moment> then why does it complain when i boot
[07:37] <moment> isn't it the exact same program that runs?
[07:38] <moment> even though livecd is 12.04 and i'm booting lucid lynx
[07:39] <bolosaur> Anyone able to help me with my screen problem?
[07:40] <Onixs> just ask
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> bolosaur: give details and the channel will do it's best :)
[07:41] <bolosaur> bolosaur> Hi. I'm running a 32-bit Ubuntu 12.04 LTS server and I'm having some issues with screens. Yesterday I set up one screen to run irssi, and today when I'm logging on, there are *two* screens available, out of which none can be resumed. If I do screen -ls the list reads "<XXXX>.irssi (<date>) (Attached), <XXXX>.pts-2.<machine name> (<date>) (Detached), 2 Sockets in /var/run/screen/S-<machin
[07:41] <bolosaur> e name>."
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> moment: what options are you using with fsck?
[07:41] <bolosaur> bolosaur> Any ideas? I don't understnad what's going on.
[07:44] <acicula> bolosaur: you can force attaching with -x
[07:44] <acicula> bolosaur: it means another vt is still attached to the screen
[07:44] <Wildbat> Q: why would ~# chown root:music music/    --->  chown: invalid user: `root:music' ?
[07:44] <acicula> Wildbat: you mean root.music
[07:44] <acicula> ?
[07:44] <Onixs> coz root aint user
[07:45] <Onixs> ?
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Wildbat: looks ok to me, is the 'music' group a real group?
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Onixs: root is a user, it must exist
[07:45] <akibahara>  hi maybe somebody  could helpme. The issue is about : i want to burn into a sd a os but i cant so i will try to make a format process , but..i can get that the ubuntu gui recognize the sd on an icon ; so  i were thinking that it could be possible using only the terminal whit a command ; someone can teachme  how to do a format from the shell to my sd?
[07:45] <bolosaur> acicula: What's a vt?
[07:45] <moment> ActionParsnip: it's all here http://pastebin.com/hjJbx1nZ
[07:46] <acicula> virtual terminal
[07:46] <Wildbat> ActionParsnip, yes , and i can chown to root:root, music:music but not root:music....
[07:46] <bolosaur> acicula: Well, there is no other terminal currently running them
[07:46] <moment> i just did a badblocks test and no bad blocks
[07:46] <N3WB13> nvidia-current E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) if i delete nvidia-current delete also the propietary drivers?
[07:47] <bolosaur> so how does that add up?
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Wildbat: chown to music:muic then chown root     (without the groupname :D)
[07:47] <Wildbat> ActionParsnip, arrrr my bad can't root:root nor just root :<
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> moment: I'd read:  man fsck   you can use some better options
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> Wildbat: will chgrp work? read the man page :)
[07:50] <akibahara>  hi maybe somebody  could helpme. The issue is about : i want to burn into a sd a os but i cant so i will try to make a format process , but..i can get that the ubuntu gui recognize the sd on an icon ; so  i were thinking that it could be possible using only the terminal whit a command ; someone can teachme  how to do a format from the shell to my sd?
[07:50] <moment> uhmn, i did read that but i didn't see what better options i could use
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> akibahara: tried unetbootin?
[07:50] <pc-moon> how i can open voice chat , if chat wrote to me "This software requires Windows XP or later, or Mac OS X 10.4 or later."
[07:50] <amanthakur> ActionParsnip, hi, can you helo me with my problm?
[07:50] <moment> fsck is just a front end for a bunch of other disk checking tools right? and it'll just pick the best i think
[07:50] <akibahara> yes
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> pc-moon: what software are you using?
[07:50] <pc-moon> ubutnu
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> amanthakur: i gave a suggestion already.....
[07:50] <pc-moon> last ver
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> pc-moon: no, the VOICE software...
[07:51] <pc-moon> i dont know how i can know
[07:51] <amanthakur> ActionParsnip, didn't saw sorry. lemme check again
[07:51] <akibahara> actionparsnip: yes unetbootin
[07:52] <pc-moon> please i have course
[07:52] <pc-moon> what i should to download to run it
[07:52] <amanthakur> ActionParsnip, i am not able to see your suggestion. Can you please write again?
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> amanthakur: you can use unetbootin to put the ISO on the SD card
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> akibahara: sorry ^
[07:53] <amanthakur> ActionParsnip, but that not the problm i am facing :)
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> pc-moon: well, you are downloading the software which requires windows, what is it called? It's nothing more simple than that
[07:54] <pc-moon> i have wine what else
[07:54] <Wildbat> ActionParsnip, Thanks i find out why now ... someone renamed the root account :S
[07:54] <amanthakur> ActionParsnip, I am using ubuntu and I am trying to redirect the output of "xinput test id" to a file but i am not able to do so. I have tried "xinput test id > file"
[07:55] <pc-moon> i have wine and java and everything as i think
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> amanthakur:  not sure
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> pc-moon: what app are you wanting to run in wine?
[07:56] <amanthakur> ActionParsnip, no problem thanks for having a look over my query
[07:56] <pc-moon> voice chat inside this page : http://r47e80b3d.s4.roomsserver.com/
[07:57] <hangdeadman> How do I make my dash open firefox instead of chromium in ubuntu 12,04?
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> pc-moon: if you mark the file as executable, then run it with wine it may work. Otherwise you may have to dual boot / virtualize
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> hangdeadman: type firefox instead of chromium
[07:58] <hangdeadman> when I search for an online movie for example and click on it in my dash it automatically opens with chromium, I would like to change that to firefox.
[07:59] <pafka__> hi
[08:00] <MonkeyDust> hangdeadman  system settings, details, default applications
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> hangdeadman: in system settings, change the default browser to Firefox..
[08:00] <hangdeadman> thanks!
[08:00] <Ali_nz2> hey ActionParsnip
[08:00] <pc-moon> so how can i run web explorer by wine to pass this
[08:00] <Ali_nz2> anyone able to help me debg why I cant connect to a openvpn server I just setup?
[08:01] <hangdeadman> Firefox is not listed, I have firefox installed in/opt.
[08:01] <Ali_nz2> the client just ends up waiting
[08:02] <auronandace> hangdeadman: why aren't you using firefox from the repos?
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> hangdeadman: you may need to install the browser, then change the binary back to the link, that list uses the desktop files in /usr/share/applications which you won't have (unless there is a .desktop file in the data you extracted)
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> pc-moon: you can run firefox in wine, it runs well
[08:03] <hangdeadman> before I upgraded from 10.10 the one in the repos would consistently freeze/crash, and I found a fix in forums by indtalling from the website into /opt.
[08:04] <pc-moon> ok
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> pc-moon: if its an app though, it won't matter what browser you run
[08:05] <auronandace> hangdeadman: so you haven't tried firefox from the repos since 10.10?
[08:05] <aria_s9> Hi everyone, I was just wondering what the best channel would be to ask about shipping a computer/components overseas?
[08:05] <pc-moon> chroe
[08:05] <hangdeadman> auronandace: no I havn't, I don't want to lose all my bookmarke/ addons
[08:05] <pc-moon> chrome
[08:06] <pc-moon> now i begin to download firefox.exe last ver
[08:06] <mimi972> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
[08:06] <mimi972> http://10.0.2.15:8080/My_Pictures
[08:07] <auronandace> !ot | mimi972
[08:07] <pc-moon> wooooooooooooooow it's work well thank u so much
[08:08] <mimi972> http://10.0.2.15:8080/My_Pictures
[08:09] <psypher246> hi all, does anyone know why apport no longer logs bugs when apps crash on 12.04. stopped working after it was released as stable. I have bugs popping up on a daily basis
[08:12] <pungi-man> psypher246, this will come but you need not worry . just let it upload the information on the ubuntu server . there is actually a minor problem which may be fixed after some time
[08:13] <sacarlson> Ali_nz3: is the vpn server on your local network or remote on wan?  if server on wan is it behind a nat (network address translation) network like behind an adsl box?
[08:14] <Ali_nz3> sacarlson: yes, behind a router, but I have forwarded 1194 to correct private IP
[08:15] <sacarlson> Ali_nz3: ok and you can ping this address and dns is setup correctly?
[08:15] <Ali_nz3> sacarlson: when you say ping this address you mean the real world IP of the servers router?
[08:16] <sacarlson> Ali_nz3: what I do is setup the simpleist openvpn config first with no encryption then when that works I go to the next step of encryption type
[08:16] <appi_uppi> Hi.. is tcmalloc part of ubuntu distro ( because it is licensed under BSD)?
[08:16] <sacarlson> Ali_nz3: well I assume if it's nated you must have a dynamic ip setup so the dns name is needed?
[08:17] <Ali_nz3> the real world IP on the router is static
[08:18] <Ca11um> I want to remove Windows from this machine and use the whole HDD for Ubuntu, but the only drawback is I like to use Steam for gaming....How would a VirtualBox VM running Windows 7 handle games?
[08:19] <sacarlson> Ali_nz3: ok it's static then can you run like wireshark on the server side to see if the attempted vpn connections can be seen?  did you check sudo netstat -pant; on the sever side to see that your server is listening on the port you say it should?
[08:20] <Ca11um> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/47984043/DxDiag.txt
[08:20] <curiousx> Ca11um: good news for ya...
[08:20] <Ali_nz3> sacarlson: netstat -pant only seems to be showing UDP connections
[08:20] <sacarlson> Ca11um: virtualbox is bad for gameing in most cases
[08:20] <Chuck_Norris> Ca11um: http://i.imgur.com/vAxr3.jpg
[08:20] <gurimu> Anyine have any ideea why or how Ubuntu might block access to an ircd for some bots? I have a bot running that works with unrealircd. Always has, but never on ubuntu (atleast not with the latest versions). The bot has been developed a few years ago and the sources are lost, but we still use it. I am almost certain that it's somehow related to Ubuntu because just the other day I had it running on another distro (arch) with unrealircd an
[08:21] <BadgerUK> yo, installing precise. Got blank screen, so used nomodeset. Upon installation getting blank screen on start up. read guides to change /etc/defualt/grub to include GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"
[08:21] <onats> do i need to do anything to have apt-add-repository become available in 12.04 server?
[08:21] <gurimu> I can connect with my regular IRC client and the port is open (the server is actually behind a DMZ)
[08:21] <BadgerUK> but when i hit f2 for cmd line
[08:21] <BadgerUK> it isnt terminal
[08:21] <Ca11um> Meh, Chuck_Norris, how can that be verified as legit?
[08:21] <sacarlson> Ali_nz3: maybe you have it configed for udp?
[08:21] <BadgerUK> so i cant nano/ gedit /etc/default/grub
[08:21] <BadgerUK> can someone enlighten me
[08:21] <Ali_nz3> sacarlson: wouldnt udp be normal?
[08:21] <Chuck_Norris> becouse is the president of valve who is answering tha mail
[08:21] <Ca11um> Anybody could just Photoshop a reply
[08:22] <Ca11um> and a corporate responce is 'Yes'?
[08:22] <Chuck_Norris> Ca11um: is Phoronix news that i read, no, it is not: look: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTExMzA
[08:22] <Chuck_Norris> and you can run Valve with wine: http://k11.kn3.net/2886D3CEB.gif
[08:23] <Ca11um> I considered Wine, but apparently Wine is very bad for certain games
[08:23] <BadgerUK> it's alright for a lot of games
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[08:23] <Ca11um> I play stuff like COD:BO, GTA IV, Rise of Nations, L4D2, TF2
[08:23] <BadgerUK> just the newest, flashiest it tends to be shit
[08:23] <Chuck_Norris> Ca11um: i have better results with POL
[08:23] <MonkeyDust> !appdb| Ca11um
[08:23] <BadgerUK> is there a better channel to get help with installing precise?
[08:24] <Chuck_Norris> Play On Linux, but... for sure we will have valve before 2012 ends =) that what i think
[08:24] <Ca11um> I take it using VS08 in Wine is buggy?
[08:24] <Ca11um> Visual Studio 2008*
[08:24] <BadgerUK> valve did say they'd sort linux out after mac
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: check the appdb
[08:25] <Ca11um> lol
[08:25]  * BadgerUK gone for ciggy
[08:25] <Ca11um> Rating: Garbage
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: pretty much sums it up, why not use a native IDE
[08:26] <Ca11um> Oh, I saw one in the Ubuntu store, Geany or something?
[08:26] <psypher246> diablo 3 works pertty good on playonlinux, just don't play it on a compositing desktop
[08:26] <Ca11um> Geanie*
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> !ide
[08:26] <psypher246> i run lxde as a seperate session to play games, on uity it's a fail
[08:27] <Ca11um> So, I can wipe the HDD and install Ubuntu; wait for Steam Linux edition, and run Visual Studio in a VM?
[08:27] <Ca11um> Seems sorted
[08:27] <psypher246> pungi-man: ok thanks. Any suggestions on how to get developer attention to a 8 month old bug?
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> psypher246: compositing desktop should be off anyway imho :)
[08:28] <psypher246> ActionParsnip: yeah i know but I like unity, so don;'t have a choice right?
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> psypher246: Unity2D ;)
[08:28] <psypher246> which is falling away :(
[08:29] <psypher246> ActionParsnip: if I want to start a 2nd unity2d session what would my startx command be?
[08:29] <Ca11um> Though, won't Valve take another year to actually port over all the games?
[08:29] <psypher246> startx unity-2d -- :1  ?
[08:29] <pungi-man> psypher246, try lxde . its simple and light weight and better in looks than unity
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> psypher246: not sure, I use lightdm, you could look at the x session desktop files to see what it says
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> Ca11um:  theres no guarentee they will port all of them.
[08:30] <BadgerUK> why do u need visual studio?
[08:30] <BadgerUK> what are u writing in?
[08:31] <Ca11um> I'm on the development team of a sub-project of a multiplayer mod; Multi Theft Auto (for GTA series)
[08:31] <Ca11um> So I need a Windows environment to test it
[08:31] <BadgerUK> ah
[08:31] <Ca11um> and compile it
[08:31] <gurimu> So, anyone have a clue atleast? Why would the same unrealircd version (just recompiled on ubuntu), with the same config, work on a Arch and not on Ubuntu? I don't even get connection attempts in the log, it's like ubuntu totally ignores the bot connecting, even though I can connect just fine with a regular IRC client (atleast locally).
[08:31] <BadgerUK> fair enough
[08:31] <pungi-man> Ca11um, u can use eclipse or monodevelop
[08:31] <BadgerUK> eclipse is a bit heavy
[08:31] <pungi-man> or KDevelop
[08:32] <psypher246> pungi-man: I have tried lxde, but yeah i really like unity, fullyinvested
[08:32] <Ca11um> The server is cross-compatible with Linux, however the client isn't
[08:32] <BadgerUK> but it's v powerful
[08:32] <BadgerUK> good scene
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> grand theft auto worked in wine last i tried it. ;)
[08:32] <Chuck_Norris> or gambas =P
[08:32] <BadgerUK> need help, with installing ubuntu precise
[08:32] <BadgerUK> got blank screen
[08:32] <BadgerUK> used nomodeset for install
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> BadgerUK: what video chip do you use?
[08:32] <mimi972> http://10.0.2.15:8080/pouf
[08:32] <BadgerUK> but stuck trying to get it to load after that
[08:32] <mimi972> http://10.0.2.15:8080/pouf
[08:32] <BadgerUK> sec, ill find out
[08:32] <BadgerUK> its a laptop i inherited
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> BadgerUK:  use nomodeset afterwards? untill uoi get the video drivers installed
[08:33] <BadgerUK> dr_willis, thats whati want to do
[08:33] <BadgerUK> but i cant edit /etc/default/grub
[08:33] <BadgerUK> cus im a nob
[08:33] <BadgerUK> i hit f2 for cmd line
[08:33] <BadgerUK> but nano and gedit are not "valid commands"
[08:33] <BadgerUK> noob*
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> BadgerUK:   you see the grub menu? hit e to edit it.. its a grub shell.. not a bash shell
[08:33] <BadgerUK> wtf
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> mimi972: thats a private network IP, so won't work over WWW
[08:34] <BadgerUK> im used to bash  :'9
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> you can edit the grub menui items without booting the os
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> for a one time ussage..
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> BadgerUK: what is the make and model of teh system?
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> grub menu, select entry, hit e to edit I think.
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> change 'quiet splash' to ne 'nomodeset'
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> then ctrl-x to boot   i belive
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> or ENTER
[08:35] <BadgerUK> acer inspire 5332
[08:35] <abtocus> how to sort a text file. (each line) as alphabetical order and remove any duplicates?
[08:35] <BadgerUK> Dr_Willis ty
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> abtocus:  use sort command, then the uniq command
[08:35] <abtocus> Dr_Willis who exactly. if the txt file is name.txt?
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> sort foo.txt
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> BadgerUK: yep, you need nomodeset
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> man sort for details/options
[08:36] <_ruben> mimi972: you should fix your site, it isn't working here
[08:36] <BadgerUK> yay!
[08:36] <BadgerUK> i win!
[08:36] <BadgerUK> cheers guys
[08:36] <BadgerUK> making the painful switch from years of windows, to linux
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> last time i used the nomodeset option on the installer.. it auto added it to the grub menu for me..
[08:37] <BadgerUK> getting there slowly
[08:37] <abtocus> Dr_Willis i want to save the file too. and will sort file.txt remove duplicates too?
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> abtocus:  i mentioned tghe 'uniq' command. :)
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> i think its uniq
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> removes dup lines.. of a sorted file
[08:38] <abtocus> Dr_Willis sort foo.txt | uniq?
[08:38] <Ca11um> Trying to install Ubuntu on another laptop, via USB stick (the CD drive is messed up) - it passes the Ubuntu screen, with dots that change from white to purple, but then it gets the default wallpaper and freezes indefinately
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: what GPU do you use?
[08:39] <Ca11um> I've tried it half a dozen times, and in different ports - it gets to approx the same stage every time
[08:39] <Ca11um> For the laptop?
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> abtocus:  try it and see what you get. it  just going to print out  the file to the screen ;)
[08:39] <llutz> abtocus: sort -u file
[08:39] <Ca11um> Dunno, it's intergrated
[08:39] <pungi-man> which tool did u use to make the USB ? Ca11um ?
[08:39] <Ca11um> Startup Disc Creator
[08:39] <Ca11um> Or something, on Ubuntu
[08:40] <Ca11um> The same USB worked for the other computer
[08:40] <abtocus> llutz Dr_Willis how to save the file as file2.txt
[08:40] <pungi-man> startup disk creator ?? Ca11um ??
[08:40] <rams_pandu> hi all, how can I install web2c in ubuntu 12.04??
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: what is the make and model of laptop?
[08:40] <llutz> abtocus: sort -u file >file2
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> abtocus:  it will be worth yopur time to read a few bash beginner guides..
[08:40] <Ca11um> The laptop is made by 'Rock', and it doesn't have any obvious model
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: try the boot option: nomodeset
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> its 'nomodeset monday maddness!'
[08:41] <Ca11um> There's nowhere to input that?
[08:41] <abtocus> llutz thanks . Dr_Willis i think its -u as llutz says
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[08:41] <abtocus> Dr_Willis ok
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> abtocus:  see man sort, and man uniq
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> chaining bash commands toghether is par tof bash FUNdaMentals :)
[08:42] <K-Lab> Mornin
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: just because you don't know where something is, doesn't mean it doesn't exist
[08:42] <BadgerUK> nomodeset fun for every1!
[08:43] <Ca11um> Yeah found the page for it
[08:45] <NielsMkn> hey everyone
[08:46] <NielsMkn> how do I change the critical battery percentage level in ubuntu 12.04?
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> NielsMkn: power settings in dash
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> possibly
[08:46] <GoodByeMegaton> hello
[08:46] <GoodByeMegaton> would anyone tell me, if you have build intel driver with SandyBridge's New Acceleration (SNA) or if you default to UXA ?
[08:47] <NielsMkn> I searched for it there but I can't set the levels
[08:49] <rams_pandu> when I try to compile autotrace from sources I get the error "implementation of AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE comes from an  old Automake version. You should recreate aclocal.m4  with aclocal and run automake again." Anybody please help
[08:49] <tk___> i want to disallow ubuntu for using my ati radeon card
[08:49] <tk___> how to?
[08:50] <tk___> i want to disallow ubuntu for using my ati radeon card
[08:50] <Chuck_Norris> GoodByeMegaton: SNA is not default yet
[08:50] <tk___> i'm using hp pavillion g6 1004tx
[08:50] <Chuck_Norris> GoodByeMegaton: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTExMjA
[08:51] <GoodByeMegaton> Chuck_Norris: thx
[08:51] <Chuck_Norris> np
[08:51] <NielsMkn> found it, has to be done via dconf editor
[08:52] <tk___> i'm using hp pavillion g6 1004tx
[08:52] <tk___> i want to disallow ubuntu for using my ati radeon card
[08:53] <cedwardsmedia> hey guys, this is more of a general debian question but here goes. my server's hdd is failing and i don't think a disk clone is going to work, thanks to i/o errors. is there a way to output a list of installed packages from apt-get, dpkg, or aptitude so that i can have a newly installed system install the packages? (i know synaptic has this feature, but this is on a server without x)
[08:53] <Chuck_Norris> !clone | cedwardsmedia:
[08:54] <cedwardsmedia> thanks
[08:55] <Chuck_Norris> np
[08:55] <Ormie> what are the reasons for the developers to develop unity and choose it as a window manager for ubuntu?
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  i think theres some blog sites that discuss that and theforums
[08:55] <Ormie> oh.
[08:55] <Ormie> thx
[08:56] <tk___>  helppppppppppppppp
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> its a bit ot for the support channel. could ask in the ot channel
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[08:57] <cedwardsmedia> i assume from there, a simple clone of the /etc would cover most configs?
[08:59] <mimi972> hola todes
[09:00] <Ormie_Installing> Why couldn't i talk?
[09:01] <mimi972> what ,,
[09:02] <mimi972> ,,,,,,,,????????
[09:03] <BIMBO> Hey
[09:04] <BIMBO> http://10.0.2.15:8080/foto
[09:04] <BIMBO> it's me
[09:04] <william0> hi guys, is there any channel  about learning shell language?
[09:04] <BIMBO> ;)
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> william0:  you mean Bash?
[09:04] <MonkeyDust> william0  try #bash
[09:04] <DJones> BIMBO: you've been asked not to post spam earlier
[09:05] <william0> yes, Bash, thank you very much Dr_Willis and MonkeyDust.
[09:05] <MonkeyDust> i bet BIMBO is a man
[09:05] <cromag> i bet BIMBO is root
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> william0:  best to read some guides on bash. not bug the bash channel. ;)
[09:06] <Ormie_Installing> Why does it matter when user is root or not in IRC?
[09:07] <william0> Dr_Willis: could you point me some useful guides? thank you very much:)
[09:07] <Chuck_Norris> hey! this is me ansewering a call from Obama :D   http://i.imgur.com/Bh78F.jpg
[09:07] <MonkeyDust> william0  start here http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal
[09:07] <tomtiger11> Chuck_Norris: #ubuntu-offtopic for that...
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> william0:  delicious.com and check the tags for what you are interested in
[09:12] <william0> MonkeyDust: it is a really useful and good guide. thank you very much. i will start my bash life here
[09:12] <william0> Dr_Willis: is delicious.com is about food?
[09:13] <Chuck_Norris> william0: if you go #bash they will put you in the right direction, they have like a homepage as well
[09:14] <Chuck_Norris> i meant like a official wiki
[09:15] <william0> Chuck_Norris: oh, i got it. thank you so much.  i think it should be much of help to me:)
[09:15] <Chuck_Norris> np :)
[09:16] <rams_pandu> I am trying to build autotrace from sources. I am getting the error ""cd  && /bin/bash ./config.status Makefile     /bin/bash: ./config.status: No such file or directory   make: *** [Makefile] Error 127" on make. What shall I do? please help
[09:20] <onats> !java
[09:23] <Viking667> hey ho all. I'm trying to REINSTALL the fglrx from AMD (on 11.10) as I just upgraded the memory
[09:24] <Viking667> ... except I can't find a "reinstall" switch in dpkg, and apt-get won't let me reinstall because it can't download fglrx again.
[09:24] <Viking667> I have the packages I used earlier. Do I have to uninstall completely, reboot, reinstall, reboot and see what happens?
[09:24] <Viking667> (I've gone to a PAE kernel too)
[09:25] <acicula> Viking667: apt-get install --reinstall <packagename>
[09:25] <Viking667> tried that. Thats what told me it couldn't reinstall because it couldn't download it
[09:25] <acicula> eh?
[09:26] <Viking667> Reinstallation of fglrx is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[09:26] <Viking667> ... that's what apt-get told me.
[09:26] <MonkeyDust> Viking667  what happens when you try
[09:26] <phr> hello world ;-)
[09:26] <Viking667> MonkeyDust: try ... what?
[09:26] <MonkeyDust> phr  lorem ipsum
[09:27] <sevoxx> "Reinstallation of fglrx is not possible, it cannot be downloaded." <-- That IS what happens when he tries.
[09:27] <Viking667> yeah. what he said
[09:28] <Viking667> sevoxx: ... unless you're not a he?
[09:28]  * Viking667 shrugs and apologises for the automatic assumption
[09:28] <Viking667> ah well. Looks like it's "dpkg" after all.
[09:28] <Viking667> meh.
[09:30] <Viking667> # shutdown -r now; shutdown -yes-with-extreme-prejudice; shutdown -oh-f***-it-and-pull-the-power-pl*... *NO CONNECTION*
[09:32] <deanzod> After a clean install of Ubuntu, my input mic works, my spdif headphone socket works, but my speakers don't.  On Acer 9810 lappy btw. Anyone got any ideas?!?
[09:32] <sevoxx> Check the mute button.
[09:33] <deanzod> I've done all of the obvious things such ash mute, faders, choosing the right device etc....
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> deanzod: can you give the output of:wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[09:34] <MonkeyDust> deanzod  in a terminal, type alsamixer, if you see MM (mute), go there and press m
[09:34] <deanzod> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=e9a11dbe4b2b5aa7b497aec44f221769fb066a3b
[09:34] <deanzod> I have unmuted everything in alsamixer already
[09:35] <deanzod> MonkeyDust: An odd thing in alsamixer though...'front' seems to control my headphone volume and 'spdif' is muted and can't be unmuted?!?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> deanzod: have you tried changing the model to laptop in alsa-base.conf ?
[09:36] <deanzod> ActionParsnip: How would I do that?
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> deanzod: gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf     change the line and reboot
[09:39] <deanzod> ActionParsnip: I have the file open but can't see a line that pertains to the model
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> deanzod: ok, if you close gedit then run:  grep -R model /etc/modprobe.d/*     what is output?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> deanzod: if it gives multiple lines, use a pastebin
[09:41] <deanzod> (gedit:5494): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to parse /usr/share/themes/mac-os-lion-theme/gtk-3.0/settings.ini: Key file contains line '/* ' which is not a key-value pair, group, or comment
[09:41] <deanzod> dean@dean-Aspire-9810:~$ grep -R model /etc/modprobe.d/*
[09:41] <deanzod> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base:options snd-hda-intel model=acer-aspire
[09:41] <deanzod> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base~:options snd-hda-intel model=acer-aspirej
[09:41] <deanzod> /etc/modprobe.d/options:options snd-hda-intel model=mobile
[09:41] <FloodBot1> deanzod: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:41] <Viking667> hm. well, THAT was interesting.
[09:41] <deanzod> oops
[09:42] <Viking667> the greyhound died. Time to haul out the ferret again.
[09:42] <Viking667> "Sally, get those other two greyhounds mating. I need another power source"
[09:43] <lukicat> hey guys, i have a flickering screen on ubuntu 12.04 with such a crappy vaio laptop =/ think it's an intel gma vga card inside... any1 has an idea to fix it?
[09:49] <deanzod> I had to reboot. Did I miss any responses?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> deanzod: can you pastebin the output of the command I gave please
[09:51] <deanzod> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1024746/
[09:51] <Oxymoron> Hi, I wonder is it hard to write your own script that automaticly switch to HDMI video and audio output when connect HDMI port and then switch back to regular audio output and video when unplug HDMI?
[09:53] <ikonia> Oxymoron: do not cross-post your questions across ubuntu and kubuntu please.
[09:54] <Viking667> Oxymoron: hm. Not sure how the video card likes being diddled with like that.
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> deanzod: the 3 files listed do nothing as they don't have a .conf extension, I suggest you delete them
[09:54] <Oxymoron> ikonia: sorry
[09:54] <Oxymoron> Viking667: at the moment, when I plugin HDMI I manually need to switch audio playback from stereo to hdmi and then manually activate HDMI video output.
[09:55] <Viking667> mmmm
[09:55] <deanzod> ActionParsnip: Is that just general housekeeping or could that fix my sound problem too?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> deanzod: good house keeping, you can then add the line:  options snd-hda-intel model=laptop    in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[09:57] <Viking667> erm, what kernel modules are supposed to be loaded for an ATI hd3450 card?
[09:57] <Viking667> I see that radeon seems to be ... blacklisted. And I don't seem to have a fglrx module.
[09:58] <Viking667> ... weird thing is, I installed fglrx from packages. You'd think I had the flaming module in my list of modules to be installed
[09:59] <deanzod> ActionParsnip: Just to be clear, the files I should be deleting are:  etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base:options  AND etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base~:options AND /etc/modprobe.d/options:options  ??
[10:00] <Viking667> the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base~ is a backup file.
[10:01] <lukicat> hey guys, i have a flickering screen on ubuntu 12.04 with such a crappy vaio laptop =/ think it's an intel gma 500 vga card inside... any1 has an idea to fix it?
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> deanzod: sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base~; sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/options; sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> deanzod: the colon stuff is  the result of grep
[10:02] <Ormie> Please Help!
[10:03] <Ormie> i want garuntee
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  the first step towards help is a question
[10:03] <fidel> !ask > Ormie
[10:03] <deanzod> ActionParsnip: Ok thanks. Going to reboot now and see if it worked
[10:05] <Ormie> I just uninstall unity and use cairo dock. and I restarted the computer and I can't go to the login. I get stuck with the low graphic mode. Now I'm installing ubuntu again, I want to know how to safely uninstall unity and use cairo dock instead.
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: just set the unity panel to hide and set the sensitiviy very low. Why not install Xubuntu and Unity won't be installed at all...?
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  no need to uninstall unity, simply select cairo in the login menu
[10:06] <sixi> hallo
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: or install gnome-panel and log in to the classic session.
[10:06] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, If I keep unity it will be a waste of hard disk space.
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: do you know how much space Unity actually takes?
[10:06] <Ormie> no
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> at least 7kb
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> (joke)
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: its like 30Mb at most, with all the dash and junk
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: its nothing
[10:07] <Ormie> great stuff...
[10:07] <sixi> are there germans here
[10:07] <Ormie> I still want to uninstall unity though, Is it possible?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: just install xubuntu and then you can use cairo dock easily, no Unity there
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> !de| sixi
[10:08] <deanzod> ActionParsnip: I have deleted the files, added the line and rebooted but still no sound :(
[10:09]  * Viking667 doesn't like unity much either.
[10:09] <ssta> "sudo passwd -l root" to relock the root account, right?
[10:09] <Viking667> I put up with it for nearly a month, just to see how frustrated I got, back in 10.10
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> deanzod: try the original model line, but set it in alsa-base.conf. Change the line you added
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  Viking667 there are plenty online forums about it
[10:09] <Saeryn> What's the sound issue deanzod?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> Viking667: iwhy not just install gnome-panel in Precise?
[10:09] <Viking667> heh. I have no doubt. Thankfully unity has improved.
[10:10] <Viking667> I've got "gnome-classic" booted up over on the machine now.
[10:10] <deanzod> Saeryn: no sound through speakers but working through headphone socket
[10:10] <Viking667> THIS machine gets debian
[10:10] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, I used "sudo apt-get remove unity*" and everything is gone.
[10:10] <vooze> When i can see my harddrive when i try to install ubuntu, but i can install anything on it, does that mean i need to buy new harddrive ? (in a laptop) or is there somthing else wrong? I was just sitting in gnome shell when everything froze.. when i rebooted it was unable to boot OS from harddrive :(
[10:10] <vooze> but i can't **
[10:10] <ssta> yeah, that appears to have been right
[10:10] <Saeryn> deanzod: Is your sound run through a conexant chip?
[10:10] <JBenn1680> anyone do a lot of RDP sessions from windows to xubuntu? I'm having an issue where when I RDP from windows to the linux box the view is stacked/mirrored multiple times vertically
[10:11] <deanzod> Saeryn: I have no idea what that is
[10:11] <Saeryn> If you have alsamixer just go to a terminal and issue "alsamixer" without the quotes, it should show the chip.
[10:12] <Viking667> unless flaming pulseaudio has got in the way.
[10:12] <Viking667> ... thankfully, alsamixer works for me.
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: why install the release with Unity, if you are just going to remove it?
[10:13] <ssta> why is gnome-disk-utility not part of the default install any more?
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> ssta  to save space, so it fits on 1 cd
[10:13] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, Because unity offers a menu that I can go in and choose which window manager I want.
[10:13] <ssta> MonkeyDust: ah, a decent reason for once :)
[10:13] <Ormie> Please I just want to replace it.
[10:13] <Saeryn> deanzod: You can also use "aplay -l" to list the playback devices.
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: you can choose the WM easily in anything
[10:14] <deanzod> Saeryn: The chip is: realek alc883
[10:14] <deanzod> *realtek
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: install gnome-panel   log off then select the classic session
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: you are making this so much harder installing Gnome ubuntu
[10:15] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, what do I do after install gnome panel?
[10:15] <Saeryn> deanzod: Seems to be a few listed issues with that chip, give me a few minutes to look into it.
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: log off, select the classic session, log in
[10:16] <Ormie> And don't have to use unity and just use the gnome classic?
[10:16] <Saeryn> deanzod: Try adding "model=laptop-eapd" to the same file ActionParsnip was having you edit earlier, remove the other line he had you add in, reboot and try it then.
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: yes, thats why I'm telling you this
[10:16] <Saeryn> Without the quotes of course deanzod
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: in future I suggest you install Xubuntu and then install Cairo dock etc
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: drastically simpler
[10:17] <ssta> so...what *is* the "recommended" way of moving /home?  I can't imagine enabling a root account is part of the recommended procedure?
[10:17] <levinlavidaloca> how to upload files to a remote server to which i have ssh access?
[10:17] <phanindraramesh_>  I am trying to build autotrace from sources. I am getting the error ""cd  && /bin/bash ./config.status Makefile     /bin/bash: ./config.status: No such file or directory   make: *** [Makefile] Error 127" on make. What shall I do? please help
[10:17] <CoJaBo> Someone ban levinlavidaloca
[10:17] <Saeryn> levinlavidaloca: Google sftp? or scp?
[10:17] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, I don't want to use Xubuntu and install cairo dock because i don't want to run the dock from x ubuntu.
[10:17] <CoJaBo> levinlavidaloca: diaf.
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> levinlavidaloca: use nautilus, it can connect to SFTP easily
[10:18] <LjL> CoJaBo: what's the matter?
[10:18] <CoJaBo> He's pm spamming.
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: whyever not?
[10:18] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, Because the cairo dock offers a window manager.
[10:19] <LjL> CoJaBo: i'll make a note, but we don't usually ban on just one report
[10:19] <Ormie> I want to use the window manager by cairo dock
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: then when you install it, there will be an option in the login manager won't there
[10:19] <phanindraramesh_> please help me
[10:19] <Saeryn> phanindraramesh_: What do you need?
[10:19] <phanindraramesh_>  I am trying to build autotrace from sources. I am getting the error ""cd  && /bin/bash ./config.status Makefile     /bin/bash: ./config.status: No such file or directory   make: *** [Makefile] Error 127" on make. What shall I do? please help
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> phanindraramesh_: what does error 127 mean?
[10:20] <Saeryn> ^
[10:20] <phanindraramesh_> ActionParsnip, I do not know. I have pasted the error message from the terminal
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> phanindraramesh_: don't you think you should maybe go and find out.....
[10:20] <levinlavidaloca> ActionParsnip so sftp has to be setup on the machine i want to upload file to?
[10:20] <levinlavidaloca> ActionParsnip how to setup sftp. difficult?
[10:20] <Saeryn> phanindraramesh_: Use a Search Engine to find what the error means.
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> phanindraramesh_:  you did do a ./configure first?
[10:21] <phanindraramesh_> yeah. I did
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> levinlavidaloca: do you mean the server or the client?
[10:21] <Saeryn> deanzod: Is your issue still around?
[10:21] <phanindraramesh_> Dr_Willis, yeah. I did
[10:21] <deanzod> Saeryn: Changed the line and rebooted but still no joy
[10:21] <Viking667> 127 means :no such file:
[10:21] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, At least: I install the edition with unity and I install cairo dock and I want to remove the unity option out from the session list in the login.
[10:21] <Viking667> phanindraramesh_: you're missing config.status
[10:21] <Saeryn> So you have sound coming from the speakers but none from the headphone jack or vice versa?
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> phanindraramesh_:  perhaps it failed
[10:22] <JBenn1680> anyone do a lot of RDP sessions from windows to xubuntu? I'm having an issue where when I RDP from windows to the linux box the view is stacked/mirrored multiple times vertically, how might i fix this? I've searched Google and not coming up with anything relevant
[10:22] <Viking667> ... at least, that's what I think I can see from what you pasted
[10:22] <Saeryn> phanindraramesh_: Did you read the README and INSTALL files?
[10:22] <levinlavidaloca> ActionParsnip ?
[10:22] <Saeryn> Usually they will contain the proper directions. You might be in the wrong directory.
[10:23] <qawsedrf> how can i do something so that when i add subdirectories, sub files, etc. to a folder, all of them inherit the group of the main folder ?
[10:23] <Saeryn> deanzod: So you have sound coming from the speakers, but not the headphone jack or vice-versa?
[10:23] <qawsedrf> i set a g+s right now to the main folder, but that onlky works for first level files/folders
[10:23] <llutz> qawsedrf: set sgid on dir (man chmod)
[10:23] <phanindraramesh_> Saeryn, I am following the procedure in README file. And I got the error in make step
[10:23] <deanzod> Saeryn: sound from headphones but not from speakers
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> phanindraramesh_:  id run the ./configure again and see if it has any errors
[10:24] <phanindraramesh_> Dr_Willis, I have done it again. But the same error again
[10:24] <Saeryn> Interesting. My issue was reversed. deanzod I will do some more research and see if I can help.
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> levinlavidaloca: well, do you want to connect to an existing SFTP server or setup a new SFTP server?
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> phanindraramesh_:  pay attention to its output
[10:24] <levinlavidaloca> ActionParsnip Dr_Willis so sftp has to be setup on the machine i want to upload file to?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: you can remove the .desktop from the xsessions folder
[10:24] <deanzod> Saeryn: Maybe it's as if the laptop is thinking the headphones are still plugged in when they arent?!?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> levinlavidaloca: yes, if you install openssh-server you will automagically get an SFTP service, it's not enabled by default
[10:25] <Saeryn> phanindraramesh_: Then you either did something wrong in a previous step, don't have the right dependancies or mistyped. Look for any more error indications.
[10:25] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, That wasn't clear enough.
[10:25] <qawsedrf> llutz: you get me?
[10:25] <Saeryn> deanzod: If the headphones are never plugged in after boot and you still aren't getting sound it's more likely that the speakers aren't being noticed.
[10:25] <levinlavidaloca> ActionParsnip how can i enable it
[10:25] <qawsedrf> i se g+s to the main folder, and then a script adds files and subfoldewrs to rthe main folder. but only first level inherits the group id
[10:25] <llutz> qawsedrf: you'll need to define acl i guess
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: there is a folder with .desktop folders in which populates the list of available sessions when you log in, if you delete it it will not be in teh list
[10:26] <phanindraramesh_> Saeryn, ./configure gave no errors. hjave a look at it http://pastebin.com/8JNjzgUf
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> levinlavidaloca: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[10:26] <railsraider> hi, i am trying to do service ssh reload on 10.04LTS but i get restart: Unknown instance:  if i do /etc/init.d/ssh reload it works
[10:26] <railsraider> how can i get the service ssh restart command to work
[10:26] <cycl0ne> hello guys I got a problem with my ubuntu PPP DNS settings
[10:26] <phanindraramesh_> Dr_Willis, , ./configure gave no errors. hjave a look at it http://pastebin.com/8JNjzgUf
[10:26] <qawsedrf> llutz: :/
[10:26] <levinlavidaloca> ActionParsnip how to setup / enable sftp?
[10:27] <Saeryn> phanindraramesh_: The output you pasted seems to indicate that the file it's looking for isn't there, are you in the directory with config.status?
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> levinlavidaloca:  sudo service ssh stop (i think)
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> levinlavidaloca  he just explained: setup openssh-server, sftp comes with it
[10:27] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, Delete the whole .desktop folder?
[10:27] <phanindraramesh_> Saeryn, yes. I am in the same directory that the config.status is
[10:27] <Ca11um> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my other laptop, but now when it boots nothing happens
[10:28] <Ca11um> It's currently a black screen with a cursor
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset| Ca11um
[10:28] <Ca11um> Usually the screen goes purple and gets lines across it
[10:28] <Ca11um> I used that during install
[10:28] <Saeryn> phanindraramesh_: Would you mind sending me the error in a query?
[10:29] <cycl0ne> whenever I typed any DNS server address in the field, the apply button becomes inactive
[10:29] <phanindraramesh_> Saeryn, I didn't get the word query. You mean that I have to ask this error message in a discussion forum?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: no, just the one file that references the unity session
[10:30] <Saeryn> phanindraramesh_: /q Saeryn and paste the error message in that window, then hit enter.
[10:30] <cycl0ne> I choose to use Automatic (PPP) addresses only for a mobile broadband  connection
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: did the nomodeset not work?
[10:30] <Ormie> Ok!
[10:30] <Saeryn> deanzod: What model is your machine?
[10:30] <Ca11um> I did it during install, looking at how to perm set it now....
[10:30] <Ca11um> How do I open terminal if the OS doesn't load?
[10:31] <deanzod> Saeryn: Acer Aspire 9810
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: hold shift at boot then press E, you can add the boot option there, hopefully updates will make the option unnecessary
[10:31] <Saeryn> Thank you deanzod
[10:31] <N3WB13> hi what library i need? : Cannot build a 32-bit program, you need to install 32-bit development libraries.
[10:31] <Ormie> thanks alot, actionparsnip
[10:31] <cycl0ne> somebody help me with that pls.
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: you could make the system even easier to install by installing ubuntu minimal, then install the dock
[10:32] <Saeryn> N3WB13: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> !info ia32-libs
 but ia32-libs is in the most recent version o.O
[10:34] <Ca11um> ActionParsnip: Okay, GRUB Boot Loader has appeared
[10:34] <Ca11um> Alt+F2 does nothing
[10:34] <Ca11um> and 'c' doesn't appear to have what is needed
 i belive i need other stuff for compile 32bits programs
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: press E to (e)dit the kernel and remove 'quiet splash'
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: then add: nomodeset
[10:35] <N3WB13> the question is what
[10:35] <Saeryn> N3WB13: Is it a .deb?
[10:35] <N3WB13> no its a source
[10:36] <Saeryn> Ah, ok. One moment
[10:36] <N3WB13> the message is when i do ./configure
[10:36] <llutz> N3WB13: you need the -dev packages
[10:37] <Saeryn> deanzod: llutz Is correct
[10:37] <Saeryn> Act
[10:37] <Saeryn> Ack*
[10:37] <N3WB13> do you mean ia32-libs-dev ??
[10:37] <llutz> N3WB13: yes
[10:37] <Ca11um> ActionParsnip: And what is the key to save and exit?
[10:37] <Saeryn> deanzod: Working on your issue still :)
 invalid operation XD
[10:38] <Ca11um> The line currently has: linux /boot/...... eo   nomodeset $vt_handoff
[10:38] <Ca11um> eo -> ro
[10:39] <llutz> !info ia32-libs-dev
[10:39] <JBenn1680> so does anyone have any clue as to why my remote sessions are displaying funky?
[10:39] <Saeryn> deanzod: Have you tried gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf then adding in "options snd-hda-intel model=acer"? (without quotes) You'd save that and reboot again, if that doesn't work then try lenovo. I once got sound to work on my machine by specifying a different brand ironically enough.
[10:39] <llutz> hrm, however this is named or by whatever its replaced now in precise
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: just press ENTER and it will boot, get fully updated and hopefully it will boot without it#
[10:41] <Ormie> Oh and, ActionParsnip, If delete the file related to unity in the .desktop directory. How do I restore it when I need it?
[10:41] <Ca11um> ActionParsnip: ENTER just creates a new line, but if I boot (Ctrl+X or F10) it doesn't save the settings
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: read the bottom line
[10:44] <Saeryn> N3WB13 sudo apt-cache show ia32-libs-multiarch
[10:44] <levinlavidaloca> i must give a -key while loging to my vps having ubuntu and ssh enabled . its  not login by a username password only. if i use filezilla (i dont have nautilus, i use kubuntu as client) then how can i connect
[10:44] <N3WB13> thanks very much
[10:44] <Saeryn> N3WB13: Install that package and try again.
[10:45] <N3WB13>  <Saeryn> sudo apt-cache show ia32-libs-multiarch :package not found
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> !tab| N3WB13
[10:47] <Saeryn> N3WB13: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/ia32-libs-multiarch
[10:48] <Ormie> NO!
[10:48] <Ca11um> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the help, seems to be working now - however, the laptop resolution seems to be too tall for the screen itself; if my cursor goes to the bottom of the screen, it kind of scrolls down slightly
[10:48] <Ca11um> An extra 20-30 pixels
[10:49] <Ormie> Ca11um: ActionParsnip [~andy@ubuntu/member/actionparsnip] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[10:49] <Ca11um> I see
[10:49] <Saeryn> Ca11um: Search Engine to adjust screen resolution.
[10:49] <N3WB13> Saeryn, wrong arquitecture only appears i386 to download in this url XD
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> Ca11um:  on a tv monitor?
[10:50] <Ca11um> Dr_Willis: No, a native laptop monitor
[10:50] <Ca11um> What's "Sticky edges"?
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> Ca11um:  that sounds like an overscan setting.
[10:50] <Saeryn> N3WB13: When was the last time you updated?
[10:50] <N3WB13> Saeryn, do you know a ia32 repository?
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> Ca11um:  sen that when using a tv as a pc monitor
[10:51] <N3WB13> Saeryn, i upgrade them 10 minutes ago
[10:52] <Saeryn> Ca11um: What size is the monitor? 15.6?
[10:52] <Ormie> omlet: Hi
[10:52] <Ormie> you think you know my answer?
[10:53] <Ca11um> Saeryn, Dr_Willis: Thanks, got it sorted now - Ubuntu got the native resolution wrong
[10:53] <deanzod> Saeryn: Sorry for the long silence...went to boil the kettle. I will try a few different models and reboots and see what happens thanks!
[10:54] <Saeryn> Ca11um: Happens, Glad it's fixed. :)
[10:54] <Saeryn> deanzod: Good luck :)
[10:55] <Ormie> Anyone?
[10:55] <Saeryn> N3WB13: I'm not sure, is it specified in the package where ia32 libs is?
[10:55] <Saeryn> Ormie what is your issue?
[10:55] <Ormie> If I delete the file related to unity in the .desktop directory. How do I restore it when I need it?
[10:56] <Saeryn> Ormie: No idea. Don't use Unity.
[10:56] <Saeryn> Sorry
[10:56] <Saeryn> Ormie: Best to search the forums and a Search Engine until more people arrive who can help.
[10:56] <qawsedrf> can i execute just 1 particular file via ssh ?
[10:57] <qawsedrf> without having to login to the server or setup public keys?
[10:57] <tuxgeek> Ormie: is the file not autogenerated at startup?
[10:57] <Ormie> Saeryn, The point to delete file related to unity in the .desktop directory is i want to switch to cairo dock and the unity option from the session menu will be gone.
[10:58] <Saeryn> qawsedrf: Unless there is a sort of open account, logging in and a key is a form of authentication, without authentication how are you going to get access to the file? It would pose a critical security risk.
[10:58] <qawsedrf> well, only 1 file
[10:58] <qawsedrf> that will execute a hardcoded command
[10:58] <qawsedrf> thats all
[10:58] <N3WB13> i have a ubuntu 10.04 64bits arquitecture with amd64 XD and the terminal says me what i have ia32libs but don't leave compile because i "Cannot build a 32-bit program" nothing has senses XD
[10:58] <qawsedrf> i cant see how there can be a security risk with that
[10:59] <Saeryn> N3WB13: You have 10.04 not 12.04?
[10:59] <tuxgeek> !shell
[10:59] <qawsedrf> Saeryn: do i make sense?
[10:59] <N3WB13> Saeryn, yes
[10:59] <Saeryn> OOOOOH
[10:59] <Saeryn> In that case, one moment.
[10:59] <zykotick9> N3WB13: ia32libs is for running, not compiling
[11:00] <deanzod> ActionParsnip: Thanks for all the help.
[11:00] <deanzod> Saeryn: Thanks a lot! changing model to acer fixed it
[11:00] <Saeryn> N3WB13: have you tried -m32 when compiling?
[11:00] <Saeryn> deanzod: :) Good!
[11:01] <qawsedrf> Saeryn: ?
[11:01] <deanzod> 3 days I have been trying to do that and 20 minutes in here sorted it!
[11:01] <deanzod> :)
[11:01] <wylde_> Ormie: rather than delete the file will 'mv oldfile.foo newfilename.foo' suffice? Then you could just rename the file back when needed.
[11:01] <Saeryn> No worries deanzod That's what we're here for :)
[11:01] <N3WB13> Saeryn, no how shoul be  "-m32" ./configure -m32" ???
[11:02] <Ormie> Cool, Thanks!
[11:02] <N3WB13> *should
[11:02] <strk> any idea why network-manager applet could fail to install its icon in the notification area ?
[11:02] <Saeryn> strk: Try reloading it?
[11:02] <zykotick9> strk: "nm-applet"
[11:02] <qawsedrf> :(
[11:03] <strk> it starts, but no icon shown
[11:03] <strk> this is 10.04
[11:03] <zykotick9> strk: do you have the network-manager-gnome package installed?
[11:03] <strk> (nm-applet:2286): atk-bridge-WARNING **: AT_SPI_REGISTRY was not started at session startup.
[11:03] <Ormie> why don't people like unity?
[11:03] <strk> ii  network-manager                            0.8-0ubuntu3.2                                    network management framework daemon
[11:03] <strk> ii  network-manager-gnome                      0.8-0ubuntu3                                      network management framework (GNOME frontend)
[11:04] <zykotick9> Ormie: that's OT here.
[11:04] <foxmulder881> Ormie: no idea. i don't use it, in favor of gnome-shell. but i don't understand why users don't like it.
[11:04] <strk> zykotick9: (nm-applet:2286): atk-bridge-WARNING **: Could not locate registry
[11:04] <N3WB13> i have a ubuntu 10.04 can i use the 11.04 or 12LTS repositories?
[11:04] <strk> could be related ?
[11:04] <foxmulder881> unity discussion is not OT. it's ubuntu related.
[11:04] <fidel> N3WB13: you should use the repos designed for your distri & version
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> foxmulder881  discussion is OT
[11:04] <fidel> so if you run 10.04 - use the 10.04 repos
[11:05] <zykotick9> foxmulder881: opinion and likes is not a support question
[11:05] <foxmulder881> MonkeyDust: right...
[11:05] <Saeryn> N3WB13: Pastefile your ./configure output.
[11:05] <foxmulder881> what's the OT channel for ubuntu.
[11:05] <foxmulder881> ?
[11:05] <fidel> !ot > foxmulder881
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> foxmulder881  #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:06] <N3WB13> Saeryn,  ./configure : http://pastebin.com/3RHmaDXa
[11:07] <Saeryn> N3WB13: Please use the pastes link in the topic :)
[11:07] <Mhondoz> Hi :) Is there a way to verify if the Atheros AR8121/AR8113 PCI-E Ethernet Controller is supported out of the box on Ubuntu 10.04 (without actually installing it - the computer is on a remote site at our customer)?
[11:07] <Saeryn> Mhondoz: Should be able to find that vis-a-vis a Search Engine :)
[11:08] <N3WB13> ok i will use paste ubuntu :P
[11:08] <Mhondoz> Saeryn: :-) Yeah, already tried that. Find this for example: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/en/man4/ale.4freebsd.html
[11:09] <Mhondoz> But not sure if that means it is a package available for installation, - or included in the kernel by default
[11:09] <Saeryn> Mhondoz: In a quick search all I could find is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9452481
[11:09] <Saeryn> Maybe wrong distro one second :)
[11:11] <strk> so, any idea about atk-bridge errors ? (coming out of nm-applet)
[11:11] <strk> (nm-applet:2354): atk-bridge-WARNING **: AT_SPI_REGISTRY was not started at session startup.
[11:11] <strk> (nm-applet:2354): atk-bridge-WARNING **: IOR not set.
[11:11] <strk> (nm-applet:2354): atk-bridge-WARNING **: Could not locate registry
[11:12] <Saeryn> strk Search Engine them?
[11:12] <Saeryn> Mhondoz: One more moment :)
[11:12] <Mhondoz> Saeryn: Seems from that post that wired ethernet works out of the box on 9.10, so I would assume it also works for 10.04 then...?
[11:13] <Saeryn> Never assume :) I'm thinking it should however I'm not 100% sure.
[11:13] <Saeryn> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci:1969:1026-NETWORK/ Either of those Mhondoz ?
[11:14] <Mhondoz> Saeryn: Yes that is the one.
[11:15] <Saeryn> Mhondoz: I can't say with any certainty really at the moment. However seeing the machines that it is in, I would assume they are supported.
[11:15] <bergelmir> i have an encrypted home partition but i get an error (serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /home)
[11:15] <Saeryn> Note "assume"
[11:15] <miss_ubuntu> hello guyz , app for tasks in ubuntu ... someone was asking about it yesterday
[11:15] <bergelmir> i need the exact error message but where do i find it?
[11:15] <Mhondoz> Saeryn: That it is includet in those certified systems... does it say anything about from when it was supported in Ubuntu? 9.10, 10.04...?
[11:16] <bergelmir> if i try to mount it manually all works fine without any problems
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> miss_ubuntu  system monitor
[11:16] <Saeryn> Mhondoz: Give me one moment.
[11:16] <Mhondoz> Saeryn: I see now
[11:17] <GoodByeMegaton> hello
[11:17] <sacarlson> N3WB13: maybe you need this sudo apt-get install g++-multilib  ; http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/compile-32bit-application-using-gcc-64-bit-linux.html
[11:17] <Mhondoz> Saeryn: Eee PC is 10.04 is supported, and it has the same network interface.
[11:17] <Mhondoz> Saeryn: Thank you for the help! :-)
[11:17] <Saeryn> Mhondoz: Perfect :) Then it should be supported
[11:17] <GoodByeMegaton> does still exist in ubuntu what was years ago called a "build-essentials" ?
[11:17] <Saeryn> No wories Mhondoz Pleasure helping you.
[11:17] <wylde_> GoodByeMegaton: yes
[11:17] <wylde_> !info build-essentials
[11:18] <zykotick9> !info build-essential | GoodByeMegaton
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> !find build-essential
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> zykotick9  was faster :)
[11:18] <Saeryn> Mhondoz: If you need any help in the future and I am arround just highlight me :)
[11:18] <GoodByeMegaton> wylde_: cool, thanks (not for me but for customer with buntu asking us for something)
[11:18] <Saeryn> Or query me for that matter if it's urgent.
[11:18] <Mhondoz> Saeryn: Thanks :-)
[11:18] <nasuga> !find gnome
 thanks  g++-multilib are installing , i have to see if it work :D
[11:20] <GoodByeMegaton> wylde_: probably last Q:, are kernel-headers (that's the name in buntu iirc) also brought with build-essentials ?
[11:20] <basz> hi plp. i see various ways of updating 10.04LTS from PHP5.3.2 to 5.3.3+, however I am not sure which one is good/works. Anyadvise on that?
[11:20] <N3WB13> sacarlson  IT WORKS!! THANKS GENIUS!!!
[11:20] <wylde_> GoodByeMegaton: I'm honestly not sure.... hmmm anyone?
[11:21] <nasuga> Basz:If you're using ubuntu, Iwould just apt-get upgrade
[11:21] <GoodByeMegaton> wylde_: no prob, thanks much
[11:21] <Saeryn> sacarlson: Going to have to remember that :)
[11:22] <N3WB13> goodbye and thanks for all ;D
[11:23] <nino`> A question, in day to day use, what would be the differences you'd encounter between Ubuntu 12.04 with Cinnamon as the desktop and LinuxMint (Cinnamon)?
[11:24] <Saeryn> nino`: That's not really a support question, I'd try a forum search on Ubuntu and Mint, or asking in a more offtopic channel.
[11:24] <Saeryn> nino`: Simply because you might have a hard time finding someone who uses Mint in an Ubuntu support channel :)
[11:25] <nino`> True the LinuxMint channel is quiet so I thought (rightly) there'd be more activity here.
[11:25] <ikonia> nino`: the linux mint channel is quite active
[11:25] <Saeryn> nino`: Might find someone but if you don't, don't be surprised is all :)
[11:29] <nino`> I didn't realise this was a support channel. OK here's one. Does the 12.04 version of GPartEd happily handle the 4K sector sizes of WD drives?
[11:29] <nino`> I was pretty sure it did if you chose the align to cylinder option
[11:30] <basz> nasuga: that does not work - unfortunately.
[11:30] <Rookie407> newbie question. im trying to use this shift switcher but everytime i minimize a program it sends it to the bottom of my screen instead of to the middle with a preview window like it shows in the picture. what am i doing wrong?
[11:31] <Saeryn> nino`: They should as the 4K Sector size can be set to work with the traditional 512 iirc.
[11:31] <kantoka> Hi guys! Anyone know what config file to edit if I want to change the default icon image for a specific file type (in ubuntu 12.04)?
[11:31] <nino`> Any thoughts? I'd hate to cripple the drive speed by picking the wrong way of partitioning it
[11:31] <Saeryn> nino`: I can look it up for you.
[11:32] <Saeryn> Rookie407: Sounds like a WindowManager/DE issue.
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> nino`  just installed cinnamon, it's beautiful
[11:32] <Rookie407> Saeryn, how would i go about correcting this?
[11:32] <miss_ubuntu> hello guyz , app for noting down tasks in ubuntu ... someone was asking about it yesterday
[11:32] <crazybrain> My Totem video player not working
[11:32] <Saeryn> nino`:  Looks like it is supported :)
[11:32] <Saeryn> crazybrain: What do you mean not working?
[11:33] <Saeryn> miss_ubuntu: Search Engine.
[11:33] <Saeryn> Rookie407: No clue, search engine and forums might help, also check the forums of the software itself if they have one.
[11:33] <nino`> Saeryn - do you have to choose any special options or does it alighn automatically - could you point me at the link?
[11:33] <crazybrain> Saeryn: i mean the video is in pause mode even i click on play it doesnt play
[11:34] <Saeryn> crazybrain: Kill it and restart it.
[11:34] <Saeryn> nino`: Search Engine and Forum Search will help :)
[11:34] <crazybrain> Saeryn: i did but still the same old shit
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> run it from a terminal look for errors crazybrain
[11:34] <nino`> I used 11.10 (from memory) for format the drive and it's been working happily but after 12.04 refused to see the partition, I checked with sfdisk and it a reports on partition is beyond the end of the disk :-(
[11:35] <Saeryn> crazybrain: Try to refrain from swearing :) do what Dr_Willis suggested
[11:35] <IdleOne> crazybrain: please mind the language in here
[11:35] <crazybrain> Dr_will
[11:35] <crazybrain> how?
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> open terminal, run the app
[11:36] <Saeryn> crazybrain: Start a terminal, cd to the directory of the video and "totem filename"
[11:36] <nino`> Given that I used GpartEd with the "align on cylinder" option, it does make me wonder who's right..
[11:36] <nino`> who's right (GpartEd) that did the formatting or sfdisk that did the checking
[11:37] <Saeryn> nino`: Like I said, Search Engine and Forum Search will probably help more :)
[11:37] <basz> how would I see which version from what repository I have installed, with apt-get?
[11:37] <Saeryn> I'll do a quick check since things have slowndown.
[11:38] <nino`> Saeryn - thanks - will look again ...
[11:38] <Pici> basz: apt-cache policy packagename
[11:38] <Saeryn> basz: man apt-get
[11:38] <crazybrain> guys didnt workin out :(
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> details.... are handy
[11:39] <compdoc> nino`, current versions of gparted create partitions correctly if you use the defaults
[11:40] <crazybrain> Dr_Willis: it is not workin
[11:40] <basz> So why would apt-get upgrade upgrade to something more recent when I seem to have the 'official' packages? https://gist.github.com/2874514
[11:40] <basz> s/would/wouldn't
[11:41] <Pici> basz: What do you expect to be upgraded to?
[11:41] <nino`> compdoc: thanks - I'm currently backing it up prior to reformatting - annoyingly it's a 1T drive with lots of stuff on it
[11:41] <compdoc> nino`, great idea
[11:41] <basz> Pici: php5.3.3+
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> crazybrain:  so what is it doing exactly?
[11:42] <Pici> basz: We don't have php 5.3.3 in lucid.
[11:42] <Pici> !latest | basz
[11:43] <crazybrain> Dr_Willis: i mean the video i select to play is not playing its actually is something like in pause even i clicked on play
[11:43] <Saeryn> crazybrain: Try VLC or mplayer
[11:44] <crazybrain> Saeryn: i installed VLC but the audio is not workin in it
[11:44] <Saeryn> mplayer output should tell you if you have a codec issue.
[11:44] <crazybrain> Saeryn: it plays video but audio is not workin
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> play with the audio out in vlc crazybrain
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> in its settings
[11:45] <crazybrain> lemme try
[11:45] <nino`> basz: I was wondering about the packages. This has bitten me recently trying to use Git-Annex, which wasn't in the 10.04 repos. I thought that Mint used Ubuntu packages so they'd would track. Isn't this so?
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> pulse, alsa, default. ive had to try all 3
[11:45] <basz> Pici: thx! Which brings me back o my original question. If I do want PHP5.3.3+ I searched online, but found various solutions. Which one is considered a safe (but unsupported) version?
[11:46] <basz> nino: I have no idea.
[11:46] <Pici> basz: the best way would be via a PPA or a .deb made for Ubuntu.
[11:46] <nino`> One other consideration is that in New Zealand there are local ubunto mirrors but not linuxMint ones, so updating speed for Ubuntu are faster ...
[11:46] <acicula> basz: why not use the latest patched 5.3.x version of php?
[11:46] <Pici> nino`: We don't have git-annex in 10.04: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1024893/
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> ive never seen much reason to perfer mint to ubuntu
[11:47] <crazybrain> Dr_Willis: i think there is a driver issue in VLC when i clicked audio the "AUDIO DEVICE" option is blank in that
[11:47] <basz> acicula: ? you mean 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.15? Because I need 5.3.3 minimum
[11:48] <miss_ubuntu> hello guyz , app for noting down tasks in ubuntu ... someone was asking about it yesterday
[11:48] <nino`> I'm heading towards Ubuntu+Cinnamon but thought I'd ask the wisdom of the assembled masses :-)
[11:48] <miss_ubuntu> Saeryn thanks for response
[11:48] <acicula> basz: which ubuntu release are you on?
[11:48] <miss_ubuntu> Saeryn thanks for response but what exactly do u mean?
[11:48] <basz> 10.04 LTS
[11:48] <Pici> miss_ubuntu: tomboy
[11:48] <crazybrain> Dr_Willis: i mean "AUDIO DEVICE" option is blank
[11:49] <acicula> basz: you could try using the packaged ver
[11:49] <acicula> version for 11.04, but you may/will run into problems doing that, is upgrading to 12.04 lts an option?
[11:49] <miss_ubuntu> thanks Pici let me check
[11:49] <acicula> or failing that waiting for 12.04.1?
[11:50] <jrib> basz: why do you need that version specifically?
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> nino`  cinnamon is nice, but i switched back to classic
[11:50] <basz> acicula: upgrading the OS seems much more difficult then upgrading PHP? Never done that and it is in production… Not sure I want to take that route (yet)
[11:50] <Church> i'd switch to cinnamon, if they ever port global app menu to it :/
[11:50] <basz> jrib: ZendFramework2 (beta)
[11:51] <Church> some complained about it since introduction @ubuntu once, but i somehow god used to it
[11:51] <Church> s/god/got/
[11:51] <crazybrain> Dr_Willis: ?
[11:52] <acicula> basz: yes it is, thats why i asked, definitly not a good idea to do live upgrades on production servers. Yet if you want to use a packaged version of php on an older ubuntu version you risk compatibility problems.
[11:52] <nino`> MonkeyDust - 12.04 would've already be installed if it wasn't for the "partition beyond the end of the drive problem". I've got it on a netbook already and quite like it.
[11:53] <basz> I'm sure some of you must have installed PHP5.3.3 on 10.04?
[11:53] <basz> succesfully
[11:53] <acicula> basz: get a test server, install the 11.04 packages and see if it still works?
[11:54] <yhy> who can tell me how to debug the execve  function? I mean i fail in process execve ?
[11:54] <Saeryn> basz: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/how-to-upgrade-php5-3-2-to-php5-3-3-in-ubuntu-941256/
[11:54] <acicula> basz: or look for a ppa php package for php on launchpad
[11:54] <basz> Just asking for the right directions - as undoing might be difficult too? (Youv'e guessed it, i am not an expert ubuntu admin)
[11:55] <basz> thanks I'l look at those tips
[11:55] <acicula> basz: try with a test server, reverting can be difficult, software revisions are more or less locked per individual release, just backports/fixes and rarely a complete update
[11:57] <Ormie> i want to replace unity with cairo dock
[12:00] <andygraybeal> hey guys, i'm doing and apt-get dist-upgrade and i'm getting:   Unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:http: [IP: 91.189.91.23 80]  -- you think this will clear up later today?
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  install cairo, logout, select cairo, login
[12:01] <Saeryn> andygraybeal: I can ping the host.
[12:01] <acicula> andygraybeal: you can set a different mirror instead of the main us perhaps?
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  i tried it for testing purposes
[12:02] <andygraybeal> Saeryn, okay.  acicula, maybe that would be good!  i would need to learn.
[12:02] <matanya> why do I get : bzr dh-make hello-2.7 hello-2.7.tar.gz  bzr: ERROR: command 'dh-make' requires argument TARBALL
[12:04] <Saeryn> andygraybeal: Traceroute and Ping are fine, so I'd switch mirrors. Maybe try one closer to your geographical location.
[12:04] <AngrySpam98|away> Why does it say "no space left on device" when i try to edit ANYTHING? and dont say "because there is no space on the device! :3" because there was 2 hours ago, and i havent changed a thing -.-
[12:04] <andygraybeal> Saeryn, okay, cool. I'm in Ohio, USA.  How do i find a closer mirror and how to i change mirrors?
[12:05] <matanya> anyone with packaging experience ?
[12:05] <Saeryn> AngrySpam98|away: First off, relax :) Everything will be fine. Second in a terminal "df -h"
[12:05] <fidel> AngrySpam98|away: checked with df?
[12:05] <Saeryn> AngrySpam98|away: df -h will return disk free in human readable format with a percentage of use next to the device name.
[12:06] <AngrySpam98|away> Saeryn, now?
[12:06] <matanya> type it in terminal
[12:06] <fidel> AngrySpam98|away: open a terminal and enter the cmd provided by Saeryn or me
[12:06] <Saeryn> "df -h" in a terminal. Does it show how much space is left in the device?
[12:06] <AngrySpam98|away> Saeryn, i dont see how this helps...
[12:06] <Saeryn> AngrySpam98|away: It will show how much space is left on the device
[12:06] <matanya> just do it AngrySpam98|away
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> AngrySpam98|away  try and learn
[12:07] <matanya> fidel: you know how to package, right?
[12:07] <fidel> matanya: i guess you are mixing me up with someone else ;) - i'm not really into packaging myself
[12:08] <Saeryn> AngrySpam98|away: There are six columns, one for the device, one for the size, the used space, free space, use % and mounted device path.
[12:08] <KillerJin>  ikonia is a shit http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YHFljI184mw/SQcmfYas9tI/AAAAAAAAETE/AoXudc-FLAk/s320/funny-shit.gif
[12:08] <KillerJin>  ikonia is a shit http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YHFljI184mw/SQcmfYas9tI/AAAAAAAAETE/AoXudc-FLAk/s320/funny-shit.gif
[12:08] <Saeryn> KillerJin: This is a support channel.
[12:08] <AngrySpam98|away> Saeryn, yes...
[12:08] <KillerJin>  ikonia is a shit http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YHFljI184mw/SQcmfYas9tI/AAAAAAAAETE/AoXudc-FLAk/s320/funny-shit.gif
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> KillerJin  mind your language, we are all volunteers
[12:08] <matanya> just kick him
[12:08] <Saeryn> KillerJin: You are off-topic and I would appriciate it if you minded your language and not spam :)
[12:09] <KillerJin>  ikonia is a shit http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YHFljI184mw/SQcmfYas9tI/AAAAAAAAETE/AoXudc-FLAk/s320/funny-shit.gif
[12:09] <matanya> thanks Pici
[12:09] <Pici> matanya: np
[12:09] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, I want to remove unity and use cairo dock
[12:09] <Saeryn> Thank you Pici :)
[12:09] <fl1bbl3> very forgiving ops in here.  2nd one would have earned /kb from me :)
[12:09] <Saeryn> :P
[12:10] <AngrySpam98|away> Saeryn, but i have six rows along with the six columns, which row do i look at? :(
[12:10] <matanya> so no packager atound :\
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  my advice is to first install/use cairo and then to ask again
[12:10] <Saeryn> AngrySpam98|away: The one your device is on :)
[12:10] <AngrySpam98|away> errm
[12:10] <fidel> Ormie: thne instal lcairo and ask yourself what session to choose at login-screen if you want to use something else then unity
[12:10] <Pici> matanya: You may want to try #ubuntu-packaging or perhaps the #bzr channel
[12:10] <Saeryn> AngrySpam98|away: Do you know the name of your device?
[12:10] <matanya> Pici: those are dead channels
[12:10] <AngrySpam98|away> I dont even know what device your talking about...
[12:10] <fidel> cairo is at the end - just an app showing somekind of 'dock'
[12:10] <Saeryn> Is it a Hard Drive, USB Stick?
[12:11] <crazybrain> Saeryn,i set the audio to alsa output mode and set the device to default but the audio isnt workin :(
[12:11] <AngrySpam98|away> Saeryn, well i dont have a USB plugged into comp right now, so hard drive
[12:11] <matanya> AngrySpam98|away: paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:11] <Pici> matanya: Not every channel is as busy as this one.
[12:11] <matanya> :)
[12:12] <Saeryn> AngrySpam98|away: Is it the HDD in your laptop/desktop?
[12:12] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, Done
[12:12] <AngrySpam98|away> Saeryn, youre gonna have to dumb this down a little bit more...
[12:12] <Saeryn> Ok
[12:13] <Saeryn> AngrySpam98|away: What is your issue? You get what error when you try to perform what operating? :)
[12:13] <Saeryn> operation*
[12:13] <Saeryn> We'll start from the beginning :)
[12:14] <AngrySpam98|away> Saeryn, i try to edit this file.  When i save changes i get: "Error writing to file: no space left on device"
[12:14] <fidel> AngrySpam98|away: what file?
[12:14] <Saeryn> AngrySpam98|away: No USB plugged in? What file and where is it locatd?
[12:15] <matanya> AngrySpam98|away: please type pwd in terminal
[12:15] <AngrySpam98|away> Saeryn, the file is on my Desktop.
[12:15] <June_sixth> Is everybody ready for IPV6 Lauch tomorrow!? Woot woot, let's have a party everybody! June 6th will be a great day in the history of TEH INTENETZ!
[12:15] <fidel> AngrySpam98|away: and please show us the output of the 'df' command if you havent done that already
[12:15] <Saeryn> June_sixth: Off-Topic.
[12:15] <fidel> !ot > June_sixth
[12:16] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, I have tried the cairo dock.
[12:16] <cache_za> what ipv6 launch?
[12:16] <cache_za> :/
[12:16] <Ormie> Now what?
[12:16] <Ormie> !out > Ormie
[12:16] <fidel> Ormie: what is your target?
[12:16] <Saeryn> cache_za: Not the right place to ask :)
[12:16] <Pici> !ot | cache_za
[12:16] <nicobrevin> !guidelines
[12:16] <Saeryn> AngrySpam98|away: Ok, one second.
[12:16] <Ormie> !ot | Ormie
[12:17] <Saeryn> AngrySpam98|away: I want you to open a terminal and type "df -h" without the quotes again, copy and paste that into a pastefil at http://paste.ubuntu.com and link me.
[12:17] <Ormie> fidel, Cairo Dock offers another window manager, I want to uninstall unity and use cairo dock's  window manager.
[12:17] <AngrySpam98|away> fidel, the output is at http://pastebin.com/UxNs8DQE
[12:18] <gille> eee
[12:18] <Saeryn> Saeryn* AngrySpam98|away :P
[12:18] <Saeryn> Ok will look.
[12:18] <fidel> Ormie: since when does cairo dock comes with its one window-manager?
[12:18] <matanya> /dev/loop0       17G   17G   31K 100% /
[12:18] <June_sixth> Oh, you didn't hear? Google and like are announcing IPV6 as a world wide event, be there (or shall I say "aware") or be square, cache_za!
[12:18] <Ormie> fidel, version 3
[12:18] <Pici> June_sixth: Again, this channel is for Ubuntu support.  If you want to chat about ipv6 or nearly anything, theres #ubuntu-offtopic.
[12:19] <matanya> did you mount your desktop to / AngrySpam98|away
[12:19] <Saeryn> matanya: I don't think he'll understand your question
[12:19] <AngrySpam98|away> matanya, i dont even know how to do that.
[12:19] <June_sixth> Pici, yea yea, I'm walkin, adios guys!
[12:19] <fidel> Ormie: still - even if it does - why wouldnt you need to remove unity?
[12:19] <Saeryn> AngrySpam98|away: Is this a LiveCD?
[12:19] <fidel> Ormie: you should be able to define the session at your login-manager
[12:20] <matanya> Saeryn: yeah, youv'e got a pont
[12:20] <matanya> *point
[12:20] <Ormie> fidel, I use cairo dock and which means: Unity is waste of space in the hard disk drive.
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> fidel  he has limited space
[12:20] <fidel> MonkeyDust: thanks for that additional bit ;)
[12:20] <AngrySpam98|away> Saeryn, uhmm...sure? ;D
[12:20] <Ormie> gossip
[12:20] <Saeryn> AngrySpam98|away: Are you booting from a CD?
[12:21] <AngrySpam98|away> Saeryn, i dont have a CD in my computer, so im saying no
[12:21] <matanya> ok
[12:21] <fidel> Ormie: maybe not what you are looking for - but 'localepurge' might help free'ing some space as well. even if its just language-related. regarding uninstalling unity itself - noidea - never tried
[12:21] <matanya> did you install ubuntu, AngrySpam98|away ?
[12:21] <Saeryn> AngrySpam98|away: Open a terminal and type pwd
[12:22] <AngrySpam98|away> Now what?
[12:22] <Saeryn> What does it say?
[12:22] <Ormie> fidel, i just want to uninstall unity and use cairo dock.
[12:22] <Ormie> Codes?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: not tried my ubuntu minimal method?
[12:22] <AngrySpam98|away> Saeryn, /home/user
[12:22] <fidel> Ormie: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6302/how-can-you-remove-unity
[12:22] <Saeryn> AngrySpam98|away: Is there anything else on your desktop? Any icons you didnt put there?
[12:23] <fidel> first random google hit on your question
[12:23] <AngrySpam98|away> Saeryn, nope.
[12:23] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, ?
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  take fidel 's advice
[12:23] <matanya> AngrySpam98|away: please type:  cd Desktop/; find .
[12:23] <fidel> seems like the expected way - simply removing the package and hope it doesnt break. Personaly i would check if the cairo project has an irc channel as well and ask for more informations about there side ....
[12:24] <nino`> goodnight all
[12:24] <andygraybeal> Saeryn, hey, i didn't change anything, and it worked this time around!
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: install ubuntu minimal, then install the dock. job done
[12:24] <Saeryn> Good!
[12:24] <matanya> better approch
[12:24] <AngrySpam98|away> Saeryn, alright.  Now?
[12:24] <matanya> AngrySpam98|away: please type:  cd Desktop/; find .
[12:24] <matanya> and paste output
[12:25] <AngrySpam98|away> The output is large :0
[12:25] <Ormie> fidel, I've tried that, i used that, i got to the low graphics mode prompt.
[12:25] <Saeryn> AngrySpam98|away: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[12:25] <fidel> Ormie: try to speak in full sentences - that avoid guessing on the other part
[12:25] <fidel> i dont know what you mean by 'that'
[12:26] <Ormie> fidel, I've tried that method, i got to the low graphics mode prompt.
[12:26] <Ormie> Seriously, dude.
[12:26] <fidel> ok i give up trying to help you - seriously dude ;)
[12:26] <fidel> good luck
[12:26] <matanya> Ormie: that = ?
[12:26] <Saeryn> Ormie: He is only trying to volunteer his time to help you :)
[12:27] <Ormie> HE SAID I'M GUESSING BUT I'M NOT!
[12:27] <Saeryn> Ormie please calm down?
[12:27] <fidel> man you cant even read
[12:27] <Ormie> fidel, REALLY FUNNY.
[12:27] <Saeryn> s/?/./
[12:27] <matanya> read again what he said
[12:27] <fidel> Ormie: i tried to point out that it helps to speak in full sentences - as other users cant look into your head/brain
 Ormie: try to speak in full sentences - that avoid guessing on the other part
 i dont know what you mean by 'that'
[12:28] <fidel> if you shorten up what you think - it might result in guessing on oe or both sides
[12:28] <matanya> so please, what is "that" ?
[12:28] <fidel> ;)
[12:28] <Ormie> hm... sorry, english is not my first language.
[12:28] <phanindraramesh> Saeryn, sorry for the late. I have a network problem. I am now sending the error as a query
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> always fun when you have to play 20 questions to get to the real problem
[12:28] <Saeryn> fidel matanya I think he just misunderstood is all. Ormie, no need to be offended. They are just asking what you meant when you used the word 'that'?
[12:28] <fidel> Dr_Willis: full ack
[12:29] <fidel> Saeryn: yep i knowe - thats why i added those additiona lsentences at the end
[12:29] <phanindraramesh> /bin/bash: ./config.status: No such file or directory
[12:29] <phanindraramesh> make: *** [Makefile] Error 127
[12:29] <fidel> anyway - out now ;)
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> so.. perhaps start over and rephrase the issue
[12:29] <matanya> by fidel
[12:29] <matanya> *bye
[12:29] <Ormie> fidel, that = the solution you gave me.
[12:29] <Ormie> and he is gone!
[12:30] <matanya> you have 1666 people here
[12:30] <d0x> Hi, since today i got this error after i entered the crypt for my hdd: "EXT4-fs (dm-1): group descriptors corrupted!" and "EXT4-fs (dm-1): ext4_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 128 not in gorup (block 698046604)!"
[12:30] <basz> If I want to experiment with 12.04 should I choice 32bit or 64bit? Nevr know what to choose...
[12:30] <Ormie> I wish you know who is typing in IRC.
[12:30] <d0x> after this i'm in initramfs
[12:30] <Ormie> panic.
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> basz use=64bit on     64bit hardware
[12:30] <zykotick9> basz: if you need to ask - use 32 ;)
[12:30] <phanindraramesh> Saeryn, I think the process is checking for the config.status file in the home directory instead of the current directory
[12:30] <matanya> basz: how much ram do you have?
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> even with 4gb or less. i say use 64bit os on 64bit hardware
[12:31] <AngrySpam98|away> Saeryn, http://pastebin.com/5Nt2RYU5
[12:31] <Saeryn> AngrySpam98|away: Please use http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[12:31] <basz> It's going on a Linode instance (512, for now)
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> is a linode even 64bit hardware?
[12:32] <phanindraramesh> Saeryn, I think the process is checking for the config.status file in the home directory instead of the current directory
[12:32] <basz> well they offer distress, so I guess so
[12:32] <zykotick9> basz: with 512MB RAM you certainly want 32bit
[12:32] <AngrySpam98|away> Saeryn, sorry, i prefer pastebin, but ok.  Are you fine with that link for now or do i have to resend?
[12:32] <basz> s/distress/distros
[12:32] <basz> ok thx
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> basz:     this some sort of vm/vpn?
[12:33] <Ormie> actually he is right.
[12:33] <Wolfsherz> why tell people which pastebin to use?
[12:33] <Saeryn> AngrySpam98|away: please resend :)
[12:33] <basz> Dr_Willis: VPS linode.com, there great
[12:33] <AngrySpam98|away> rawrr
[12:33] <Saeryn> Wolfsherz: Because I have issues with Pastebin :) It's a personal thing.
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> basz:  id hav to say use 32bit then. because its not 'real' hardware ;)
[12:35] <AngrySpam98|away> Saeryn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1024937/
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> i need to look into vpn/vps/stuff someday
[12:35] <Saeryn> Thank you AngrySpam98|away
[12:35] <Saeryn> Actually AngrySpam98|away Did I ask for this or matanya?
[12:36] <matanya> I did
[12:36] <Saeryn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1024937/
[12:36] <AngrySpam98|away> Saeryn, idk i was kinda tuning matanya out...
[12:37] <AngrySpam98|away> yea it was matanya.
[12:38] <saloxin> every tmie I log in to gnome-shell I get an extra set of menus? now the application menu is out of my screen. anyone seen anything like it?
[12:38] <AngrySpam98|away> Saeryn, what do I do now?
[12:38] <Snowie> saloxin, no, but gnome does do some odd things. i would reset gnome
[12:40] <saloxin> Snowie: any tips on reset? in the old days I'd kill my .gnome2 directory, but I guess thats not so anymore
[12:41] <Saeryn> AngrySpam98|away: Ask matanya I have an emergency I have to take care of :)
[12:41] <matanya> AngrySpam98|away: delete some stuff
[12:41] <AngrySpam98|away> -.-
[12:41] <AngrySpam98|away> i liked Saeryn better xD
[12:42] <matanya> I can give you better answers, but you might not understand, sorry
[12:42] <Snowie> saloxin, it's definately gnome and not unity?
[12:42] <AngrySpam98|away> brb
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> Snowie  unity = gnome3 + eyecandy
[12:43] <Snowie> MonkeyDust, fair enough. so gnome and unity are different. just askin. do you know the answer he's after?
[12:43] <saloxin> Snowie: yes, nstalled gnome-shell, and got a separate "Gnome" entry in the menu
[12:44] <Snowie> saloxin, try http://askubuntu.com/questions/125662/how-to-reset-gnome-panel
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> !unity
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> Snowie  havent followed
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> gnome-shell is a shell for gnome
[12:45] <Falkon> Dr_Willis hello
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[12:45] <AngrySpam98> matanya, i fixed it :0
[12:45] <matanya> good, how?
[12:45] <matanya> see better with me :P
[12:45] <AngrySpam98> i closed out of everything i had opened :P
[12:45] <Snowie> fair enough, im out, im clearly wrong here, but so far i dont see the right answer for saloxin
[12:46] <saloxin> !notunity
[12:46] <cycl0ne> Hi I got a problem with with setting DNS address in ubuntu using Automatic (PPP) Addresses only
[12:46] <kobold_> does anybody install ubu 12.04 server  ?
[12:46] <kobold_> on raid ?
[12:47] <kobold_> software raid ?
[12:47]  * saloxin thinks gnome-panel is starting up a new session with every login, something is broken on my desktop that isn't broken on my laptop. I'll investigate further. Snowie - thanks!
[12:47] <Snowie> saloxin, np
[12:48] <AngrySpam98> like boss lol
[12:48] <AngrySpam98> off to spam #windows some more :P
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[12:48] <Ormie> Cool!
[12:48] <Ormie> COOL!
[12:49] <Ormie> I GOT CAIRO DOCK AS MY DEFAULT WINDOW MANAGER.
[12:49] <Ormie> I CAN'T CHILL OUT!
[12:49] <phanindraramesh> hai all, I am trying to install autotrace with a patch. aclocal, automake, ./configure went smooth. but make is giving the error "cd  && /bin/bash ./config.status Makefile
[12:49] <phanindraramesh> /bin/bash: ./config.status: No such file or directory
[12:49] <phanindraramesh> make: *** [Makefile] Error 127
[12:49] <phanindraramesh> ". what shall I do? help please
[12:49] <gry> Ormie: oops caps off please, i was half alseep :)
[12:49] <chu> Can you please not shout in caps Ormie.
[12:50] <Ormie> oh, um... Sorry, I was too excited.
[12:50] <gry> good news!
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> !yay| Ormie
[12:50] <Ormie> Cool!
[12:51] <Ormie> !yay
[12:51] <Ormie> hm...
[12:52] <llutz> phanindraramesh: "cd  " brings you into your $HOME, are you sure your command is correct? issue "/bin/bash ./config.status Makefile"  inside the dir holding your source-stuff
[12:54] <MickStep> anyone know of a ppa with the nvidia 173 in it for 12.04?
[12:54] <Ormie> oh no, it crashed from time to time, but don't worry no need for help.
[12:54] <Ormie> I'm just gonna go back and use unity.
[12:54]  * Ormie cries...
[12:54] <phanindraramesh> llutz, config.status: creating Makefile          this is the output of  /bin/bash ./config.status Makefile
[12:55] <phanindraramesh> llutz, does that mean that the make run successfully?
[12:56] <llutz> if theres no error, i'd guess:yes phanindraramesh
[12:56] <zykotick9> phanindraramesh: what are you compiling?
[12:56] <phanindraramesh> zykotick9, I am compiling autotrace
[12:56] <zykotick9> !info autotrace | you mean like this one?
[12:57] <Zally666> Is prezice 12 ?
[12:58] <Pici> Zally666: 12.04
[12:58] <Zally666> Or 13
[12:58] <zykotick9> !12.04
[12:58] <Pici> Zally666: The release numbers are the YEAR.MONTH of release.
[12:58] <phanindraramesh> llutz, what is the file that is issuing the command "cd ". is it Makefile or configure?
[12:58] <Zally666> Kool
[12:58] <llutz> phanindraramesh: you want to read about real bash basics (what "cd" does)
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> Zally666  12 is the year 2012
[12:59] <Zally666> So how do i fix analog pal tv on precize?
[13:00] <phanindraramesh> llutz, I know what cd does. I am encountering the problem when I try to run make. So, I want to fix this issue. for that I suppose that I need to edit some file. I want to know the file that I have to edit. I didnot externally issue the command "cd ".
[13:02] <llutz> phanindraramesh: you issued "cd  && /bin/bash ./config.status Makefile"   and that was wrong. "cd" without path changes into your $HOME, which is not the place holding the files you call after the "&&"
[13:02] <ISOcrates> I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 and my /dev/sda1 keeps filling up completely without me doing anything. Cleared out 20GB yesterday and today it's back to 100% used. Any suggestions as to what could be causing this? I do have an external HD mounted at boot
[13:03] <llutz> phanindraramesh: so i suggest again you read about some bash-basics before you try to compile stuff in the future. also zykotick9s question is still open: WHY do you compile it, you can get if from repo
[13:03] <Zally666> Cd | more here
[13:03] <schnuffle> ISOcrates:  check which program is causing  disk IO
[13:03] <ISOcrates> schnuffle: cool how do i do that?
[13:04] <zykotick9> !10.10 | ISOcrates
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> ISOcrates  10.10 is no longer valid or supported
[13:04] <schnuffle> ISOcrates:  first where is all that data created /tmp /var/log ....?
[13:05] <schnuffle> ISOcrates:  iotop can do that
[13:05] <compdoc> ISOcrates, filling up with what?
[13:05] <ISOcrates> schnuffle: ok thanks. i don't even know what kind of data is filling up the drive, that's my problem
[13:06] <aboudreault> anyone could give me some hint about how to install ubuntu on that setup: I have 2 disks of 3TB. Wanted to create an simple array raid1 and setup my lvm. It fails. 2tb is too big. I tried to enable uefi in the bios, same issue.
[13:06] <schnuffle> ISOcrates: but if you deleted it, at least you should know what has been deleted by you
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> !raid
[13:06] <ISOcrates> schnuffle: i only deleted some .isos that i had downloaded, but even then i had plenty of space left
[13:07] <strk> zykotick9: update: sudo nm-applet works (ie: installs in the notification area)
[13:07] <ISOcrates> schnuffle: last night i had 20GB free, didn't touch anything, now it's full
[13:07] <strk> dunno why it takes root perms to work, should it ?
[13:07] <zykotick9> strk: nm-applet shouldn't require sudo - and for gui apps use "gksudo foo" instead
[13:07] <schnuffle> ISOcrates:  what gives you a sudo du -hs /
[13:08] <zykotick9> schnuffle: you shouldn't be offering support for EOL releases...
[13:08] <ISOcrates> schnuffle: running it now
[13:08] <schnuffle> okay then: my advice upgrade to a recent reales :)
[13:08] <martinphone> i need the command to scan from the shell
[13:08] <martinphone> I lost it
[13:08] <basz> any good ispconfig alternative?
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> martinphone  try scanimage -L
[13:09] <geirha> martinphone: scan what?
[13:09] <schnuffle> martinphone: scanimage maybe?
[13:09] <strk> zykotick9: still, shouldn't require gksudo, should it ?
[13:09] <zykotick9> strk: no it shouldn't
[13:09] <martinphone> the one Im looking for had a parameter for time between scannings
[13:09] <sacarlson> basz: ispconfig?  like for wifi setup?
[13:09] <strk> ideas about what could I look at to figure out _why_ it does ?
[13:10] <geirha> strk: Once you've run something as sudo once, you risk it having created files in your homedir, owner by root
[13:10] <schnuffle> strk: check to which group your user needs to be added ( maybe netdev?)
[13:10] <zykotick9> strk: i'd verify that your uses is in proper groups, use "groups" in a terminal for a list of what groups you are in.  sorry i don't know what group(s) you'd need for nm.
[13:10] <geirha> strk: make sure all files in your homedir are owned by you.  sudo chown -R "$USER:" ~
[13:11] <basz> sacarlson: ispconfig is an control panel for servers, allowing easy configuration of services.
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> martinphone  sleep generates a pause
[13:11] <smith__> I try to install Mail::POP3 via cpan, but it makes an error "make[1]: *** [mpopdstats] Error 2" ....  anyone an idea?
[13:12] <ISOcrates> schnuffle: http://pastebin.com/cS7fG9Xg
[13:12] <phanindraramesh> llutz, I want to install metatype which need a patch to be applied to autotrace. Thats why I am doing that
[13:12] <schnuffle> ISOcrates: Ooops it should be sudo du -hs /*
[13:13] <ISOcrates> schnuffle: haha ok
[13:13] <phanindraramesh> zykotick9, , I want to install metatype which need a patch to be applied to autotrace. Thats why I am doing that
[13:13] <geirha> ISOcrates: sudo du -hx --max-depth=1 /
[13:13] <ISOcrates> ok
[13:13] <geirha> that limits the command to only show disk usage of that one filesystem
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> ISOcrates: I'd just run a backup then reinstall with Precise
[13:13] <skorpio11> Hi. I would like to mount a seperate drive for backup purposes. Any Ideas on fstab entry to give user read/write permissions? It's an ext4 partition
[13:14] <geirha> (du -hs /* would show usage for your external drive too, which is irrelevant)
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> skorpio11: defaults will be ok, ext4 will hold the owners and access you set
[13:14] <ISOcrates> ActionParsnip: yeah... i may have to but i'd love to find out what's up first
[13:14] <zykotick9> skorpio11: change the permission on the mount point after it's mounted.  fstab not required for permissions with ext partitions.
[13:14] <schnuffle> skorpio11:  the defaults options will mount it rw
[13:15] <schnuffle> geirha: good point
[13:15] <ISOcrates> schnuffle: http://pastebin.com/5Gs8V4U0
[13:16] <schnuffle> ISOcrates: so you have a lot of stuff in /media
[13:16] <ISOcrates> yes i have an external 2GB drive mounted
[13:16] <ISOcrates> schnuffle: as well as another 3TB internally
[13:16] <sacarlson> skorpio11: if you want a perm mount you might try this cool gui I never tried yet http://pysdm.sourceforge.net/
[13:17] <schnuffle> ISOcrates: So where is your problem if all the data on your disks are as they should be?
[13:17] <geirha> ISOcrates: That disk usage report is not counting the space on your external drives
[13:17] <ISOcrates> i have an 80GB hard drive that ubuntu is installed on.  it doesn't hold much data at all besides the os itself.
[13:17] <ISOcrates> but it's full again
[13:18] <skorpio11> Might be simple to just have a login script that changes permissions then?
[13:18] <geirha> ISOcrates: looks like you've tried to copy over files to your external drive ... while it's not mounted
[13:18] <geirha> ISOcrates: hence it gets stored on / instead
[13:18] <ISOcrates> geirha: oh damn... that's it
[13:18] <skorpio11> Thanks for the link to pysdm might check that out as well
[13:19] <ISOcrates> geirha: i have a cronjob running nightly to rsync to a drive that isn't mounted currently
[13:19] <sacarlson> skorpio11: permisions can be changed in nuatilus also if run from an account with needed privs
[13:19] <schnuffle> ISOcrates: so you should insert a check if the disk is mounted before backing u
[13:20] <ISOcrates> geirha, schnuffle: thanks a bunch
[13:20] <geirha> ISOcrates: add a test in that job; check for a file or directory that will only be there if the drive is mounted. Abort otherwise
[13:20] <schnuffle> you're welcome
[13:20] <ISOcrates> schnuffle, geirha: i will thanks
[13:20] <skorpio11> Thanks. I am looking for something with less hands on as I would like to use this partition for automatic backups with a cron job.
[13:21] <martinphone> im goin with scanimage -b --batch-scan=yes > scanned-file.pnm, but the one I remember started with "for i in..."
[13:21] <martinphone> for scanning images
[13:21] <sacarlson> skorpio11: ya the rsync with cron would be the way to go then
[13:21] <martinphone> if anyone can help
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> skorpio11: could use rsync in a cron job
[13:22] <schnuffle> martinphone:  for  in in ... will interate over something and execute it. something can be a array a directory listing .....
[13:22] <skorpio11> Even with rsync. Wouldn't I still need to have read/write permission?
[13:23] <ISOcrates> geirha, schnuffle: how do i find all those rogue files in / ?  i don't see them there
[13:23] <sacarlson> skorpio11: you would have to have the backup mounted as read/write but can run it with sudo or root
[13:23] <schnuffle> ISOcrates: unmount /media and then recheck if /media is empty
[13:23] <dantix> Hi all, I've launched the dist upgrade from a NX session. The connection broken and I can't connect/resume my session. From the ssh I can see http://pastebin.com/P6pDvNd8 where showed the update-manager running and seems it is asking me for a answer. How can I undo or continue the upgrade to finish?
[13:24] <geirha> ISOcrates: sudo mkdir /tmp/mnt; sudo mount --bind / /tmp/mnt; find /tmp/mnt/media
[13:24] <vidirr_> Has anyone here used Bumblebee to set up a second monitor using the nvidia optimus card's HDMI output?
[13:24] <geirha> ISOcrates: err, or just unmount the external drive like schnuffle says... easier :)
[13:25] <ISOcrates> schnuffle, geirha: ok thanks :)
[13:26] <skorpio11> thanks for all the suggestions
[13:27] <ISOcrates> geirha: i did run that command and a bunch of files showed up... can i just do a rm -rf /tmp/mnt/* to get rid of the extra files?
[13:27] <ISOcrates> geirha: or do i not even need to
[13:28] <geirha> ISOcrates: oh dear, no! /tmp/mnt is your /
[13:28] <ISOcrates> geirha: haha ok that's what i asked
[13:29] <dabbish_> n
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> wowser
[13:29] <geirha> ISOcrates: just unmount any filesystems mounted under /media, and delete from there
[13:29] <ISOcrates> geirha: ok
[13:31] <neo1691> Hello guys, I am on ubuntu 12.04 64 bit, whenever i open myunity software it says that unity is running 2d mode, but actually ubuntu is running on 3d mode
[13:31] <dantix> any help please
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> neo1691: if you run:  ps -ef | grep compiz | grep -v grep     is there an output?
[13:32] <neo1691> no
[13:32] <neo1691> ActionParsnip, there is no output
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> neo1691: then you are not using compiz
[13:33] <neo1691> Do i need to install compiz settings manager
[13:33] <Aufwind> I want to run a "cronjob" each 25 hours. But it seems to me, that you can only specify to run daily, monthly, hourly and so on. Is there a workaround for that?
[13:33] <zykotick9> neo1691: looks like you are using unity2d then
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> neo1691: == Unity2d
[13:33] <neo1691> Okay i should install compiz settings manager and get it working right?
[13:33] <geirha> Aufwind: not really. Any particular reason why you can't just run it daily?
[13:35] <neo1691> ActionParsnip, One question? How does terminal commands like that come naturally to you? You guys rock!
[13:35] <schnuffle> neo1691: training and the magic man command
[13:36] <Aufwind> geirha, I am using the google geocoder api to geocode a bunch of coordinates. unfortunately the api limits the amount of queries to 2500 per ip and and day. So if I start the process daily I have to consider the duration of the process. Since the 24 hours cap kicks in after the last query of the 2500 which takes around half an hour. :-)
[13:36] <zykotick9> schnuffle: "magic man command" love it ;)
[13:36] <geirha> neo1691: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[13:36] <Aufwind> geirha, So I hoped I would be able to start the process in a 25 hours rhytm.
[13:36] <neo1691> geirha, Thanks a lot
[13:37] <neo1691> schnuffle, magic man command, i want it
[13:37] <schnuffle> neo1691: you have it already :)
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> neo1691: experience
[13:37] <ISOcrates> geirha: when i try umount /media/3TB-BACKUP, it says "umount: /media/3TB-BACKUP/: not mounted"
[13:38] <neo1691> ActionParsnip, Okay :)
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> neo1691: its like stuff I'm sure you do/did in Windows
[13:38] <geirha> ISOcrates: Then any files inside will be on /, not your external drive. Also  df -h   will list all mounted filesystems
[13:38] <schnuffle> ISOcrates: And you have data in /media/3TB-BACKUP? That means that is the data that stuffs your harddisk
[13:38] <neo1691> ActionParsnip, I want to stop using windows, Linux is the way to live for me now
[13:39] <ISOcrates> schnuffle, geirha: i have tons of data in /media/3TB-BACKUP, but it's not plugged in right now. but the cronjob was still running at night
[13:39] <geirha> Aufwind: well, I don't see why you can't run it daily then..?
[13:40] <ali_> hey
[13:40] <geirha> Aufwind: Anyway, instead of running it from cron, run it during boot, and have it loop infinitely, sleeping 24 hours between each run
[13:40] <Aufwind> geirha, Well sleep is coo. Why haven't I thought of that. Thanks a lot!
[13:41] <ali_> hello !
[13:41] <geirha> Aufwind: Possibly writing the starting timestamp to a file, so you can make sure 24 hours has passed next time you boot
[13:41] <schnuffle> Aufwind: You can use the at command
[13:42] <Aufwind> schnuffle, at?
[13:43] <Aufwind> schnuffle That would be a pain to google. :D
[13:43] <melkor> Okay, I want to use a printer and before I start printing I want to check the ip adress can I do this?
[13:43] <Aufwind> schnuffle Thanks :D
[13:43] <schnuffle> Aufwind:  http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_at.htm, checked but the syntax doesn't allow 25h neither
[13:44] <Aufwind> schnuffle, That is a pitty. I will use sleep then. Thanks anyway!
[13:45] <schnuffle> Aufwind:  found clockwork which understands "every 25h" , https://github.com/adamwiggins/clockwork
[13:47] <geirha> schnuffle: at now + 25 hours << 'EOF' ... but I'd just go for an infinite loop and sleep myself
[13:48] <geirha> schnuffle and Aufwind I meant ^
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> infinite sleep....   sounds good. ;)
[13:48] <melkor> hey this is great, found the printer, printed first try. No how do I look at the settings so I can print the way I want it to?
[13:48] <geirha> Dr_Willis: the loop, not the sleep :P
[13:49] <kasun_> hi all, I faced an issue when I'm updating (not upgrade!) my Ubuntu 11.10. I tend to update bi-weekly. When you do it today, I faced with an issue.
[13:49] <kasun_> Could not find /boot/grub/menu.lst file. Would you like /boot/grub/menu.lst generated for you? (y/N)
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> melkor:  printer config tool. or the cups web interface
[13:49] <schnuffle> Aufwind:  And then I found whenjobs http://people.redhat.com/~rjones/whenjobs/whenjobs.txt
[13:50] <kasun_> the update window is saying 'Configuring linux-image-3.0.0-20-generic'
[13:50] <kasun_> any help is much appreciated
[13:50] <kasun_> I'm confused because GRUB 2 doesn't need a menu.lst, does it?
[13:50] <legoff> !unity
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> menu.lst is for grub1 i thought. how are you using grub1 om 11.10
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> grub2 has totally different config files
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> kasun_: no it uses config files then generates grub.cfg
[13:52] <Aufwind> schnuffle, geirha Thank you very much for your effort!
[13:52] <schnuffle> you're welcome
[13:52] <kasun_> ActionParsnip, yea... even the doc says that. Any idea why this happens? I'm worried because I might not be able to login due to this.
[13:52] <schnuffle> kasun_:  checked which grub you have installed right now?
[13:53] <kasun_> Dr_Willis, yes, im at lost
[13:53] <kasun_> schnuffle, um... how can that be done?
[13:53] <schnuffle> kasun_:  sudo dpkg -l | grep grub
[13:54] <kasun_> on it
[13:54] <melkor> Dr_Willis: I don't see it in the terminal nor does it come up with apt-get install.
[13:54] <kasun_> there are four lines.
[13:54] <kasun_> ii  grub                                   0.97-29ubuntu64                         GRand Unified Bootloader (Legacy version)
[13:54] <kasun_> ii  grub-common                            1.99-12ubuntu5                          GRand Unified Bootloader (common files)
[13:54] <kasun_> rc  grub-pc                                1.99-12ubuntu5                          GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (PC/BIOS version)
[13:54] <kasun_> ii  grub-pc-bin                            1.99-12ubuntu5                          GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (PC/BIOS binaries)
[13:54] <FloodBot1> kasun_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:54] <kasun_> schnuffle, ^^
[13:54] <schnuffle> kasun_:  use pastebinit to paste more then one line
[13:55] <kasun_> schnuffle, yes, im sorry... :(
[13:55] <schnuffle> kasun_: So grub2 has been deleted and grub1 has been installed
[13:55] <kasun_> omg
[13:56] <promptcommand> i cannot install ubu12.04 via preseed from a local server. does anyone knows a workaround? #659632
[13:56] <schnuffle> kasun_:  normally you should reinstall grub-pc which should replace grub
[13:56] <schnuffle> kasun_:  But I'm not sure on the side effects it could have on your system
[13:56] <kasun_> i see
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> kasun_: sudo dpkg -P grub-pc; sudo apt-get --reinstall install grub-pc
[13:57] <kasun_> schnuffle, for now, shall I just go and say yes for the prompt?
[13:58] <schnuffle> kasun_: I would stop the update, do what ActionParsnip told you and then restart the update. Just don't reboot before being finished
[13:58] <Aufwind> schnuffle, geirha Just to make sure I understand the at command correctly (afraid of breaking my process here). This command at -f command.sh now + 72 minutes I found on SO (http://stackoverflow.com/a/745927/641514) says that if I start my script like that, it will run now and in 72 minutes and in 144 minutes and so on? Infinitly?
[13:58] <kasun_> schnuffle, ok, great
[13:58] <geirha> Aufwind: No, only once
[13:58] <kasun_> ActionParsnip, as schnuffle said, would there be side effects?
[13:58] <Aufwind> geirha, So now and in 72 minutes?
[13:59] <geirha> Aufwind: So your script would have to re-add itself with that same at command
[13:59] <geothomac> Does ubuntu 12.04 support ipv6?
[13:59] <geirha> Aufwind: No, 72 minutes from now
[13:59] <Aufwind> geirha, Ah that is cool I think. That helps!
[13:59] <schnuffle> geothomac: yes
[13:59] <Aufwind> geirha, Thanks!
[14:00] <ultrixx> Aufwind: why don't you let your script get called hourly and check from within your script, whether 25 hours have passed or not?
[14:00] <borisb> Anyone knows how to get Thinkpad's trackpoint middle-button scrolling working on precise? It worked OOTB, but then I upgraded via X edgers PPA because of latest nouveau
[14:00] <geothomac> thank u dude Aufwind
[14:01] <geirha> Aufwind: at -l will list jobs scheduled to be run
[14:01] <schnuffle> kasun_:  Hard to tell without knowing why you ran into problems in the first place
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> kasun_: may want to uninstal the legacy grub
[14:02] <Aufwind> geoffb, You meant someone else I assume? :-)
[14:02] <Aufwind> geothomac, ^
[14:02] <Aufwind> geoffb, sorry... ^
[14:02] <melkor> Dr_Willis: got it system-config-printer-??? thanks for the heads up.
[14:02] <kasun_> schnuffle, yea... may be the latest version in a package has an issue
[14:02] <Aufwind> ultrixx, That would be a workaoround.
[14:02] <schnuffle> kasun_:  But up to know  breaking the update process to restart it after having made changes nether posed any problem to me
[14:03] <Aufwind> ultrixx, I will try what works best
[14:03] <Aufwind> Thank you all!
[14:03] <schnuffle> Aufwind: he meant me :)
[14:03] <Aufwind> schnuffle, :D
[14:03] <schnuffle> s/nether/never/
[14:03] <kasun_> schnuffle, oh well.. seems like the Cancel button is disabled. (I did this via UI)
[14:04] <schnuffle> kasun_: Kill the process on the console and then restart the update from the console after having made your changes
[14:06] <kasun_> schnuffle, ok, i'll try
[14:06] <shahriyarguliyev> hi
[14:06] <suttiwit> Gah!
[14:06] <suttiwit> YEAH!
[14:06] <kasun_> schnuffle, would it matter if I have legacy GRUB? I just want a working system.
[14:07] <shahriyarguliyev> who is linux admin
[14:07] <shahriyarguliyev> i've a Q
[14:07] <andygraybeal> i'm having a space issue, i try to run an apt-get dist-upgrade and it says i'm out of diskspace.  i do a df -h and i have plenty of diskspace (or from what I understand) here are the details: http://pastebin.com/CY6P5QFX  thank you for your efforts!
[14:07] <schnuffle> !anyone | shahriyarguliyev
[14:08] <schnuffle> kasun_: I don't know what is the default grub version for your ubuntu version
[14:08] <Ormie> Hi, I'm installing a program. Should I use the default or precise-backports?
[14:08] <shahriyarguliyev> im newbie
[14:08] <Ormie> newbie :D
[14:09] <schnuffle> Ormie: If the app from the normal repo satisfies you then just use it
[14:09] <shahriyarguliyev> so who can answer my Q?
[14:09] <Ormie> What is your question?
[14:09] <schnuffle> Ormie: But i've backports mostly activated
[14:09] <kasun_> schnuffle, since this is 11.10, it's GRUB2. I already have  /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[14:09] <Ormie> schnuffle, Sorry, don't understand you.
[14:09] <helion> how to install ubuntu from debian without usb/cd, but directly from boot?
[14:10] <Ormie> schnuffle, what do you mean?
[14:10] <schnuffle> kasun_: So I would go for grub-pc
[14:10] <shahriyarguliyev> once I installed Ubuntu from official site through WUBI installer
[14:10] <schnuffle> Ormie: I mean you asked use backports or not. I told you if the app from the standard repo does the job, then use it
[14:10] <shahriyarguliyev> then W7 crashed but ubuntu still works. Now i wanna install ubuntu permanently
[14:12] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: Backup your data and  do a clean install is my advice. Do you want to keep a Windows install?
[14:12] <Ormie> shaahriyarguliyev, It's a big question, I know how to do that, but I don't know how to explain.
[14:12]  * legoff loves ubuntu
[14:12]  * Ormie loves ubuntu but doesn't like unity.
[14:12] <freakolowsky> aloha ... can somone tell me where unity copiz settings are saved gconf or dconf ... because somehow they're being ignored
[14:12] <schnuffle> Ormie: You can use the <tab> autocomplete for user names
[14:12] <fasta> What's the name of the application which controls whether or not proprietary drivers should be used?
[14:13] <shahriyarguliyev> Nope. only ubuntu
[14:13] <kasun_> schnuffle, ActionParsnip, thanks guys, I'll try this
[14:13] <gawshee> Hello. Recently, I've downloaded the 5th Humble Bundle, installed Swords and Sworcery from the Software Center and after the download has finished the game won't start. ;___;
[14:13] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: then get a install CD/DVD/USB, backup your important data, recheck your backup, backup a third time, install ubuntu
[14:13] <Ormie> schnuffle, my client shows me the whole list of possiblities instead of what qwebric does.
[14:14] <kasun_> I have a amd 64. seems legacy doesn't work in it
[14:14] <Snowie> hi all. anyone successfully coverting files or transcoding from ubuntu to xbox?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: install Xubuntu, Lubuntu or Kubuntu and it won't be installed.
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Snowie: depends what the xbox can play
[14:15] <Snowie> ActionParsnip, very specific avi's. never had much luck with it really
[14:15] <resno> unity isnt loading anymore, where can i start to figure the oissue?
[14:16] <shahriyarguliyev> i can do that, but I want to be sure that if I create a Removable INSTALLER onto current system with "Startup DIsk Creator" it won't clean my data in D: disk
[14:16] <Snowie> ActionParsnip, been diggin at it for a while, cant really find a solid solution
[14:16] <shahriyarguliyev> since i installed wubi to C: disk.
[14:16] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: how is your harddisk pratitionend?
[14:17] <resno> right now, ubuntu is booting straight into cli login. should i just reset unity and compiz?
[14:17] <Snowie> converting an mp4 to avi, avconv fails to run at all, and ffmpeg encounters an error that seams related to a bug. any alternatives?
[14:17] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: anyway so you want to install it on c:? Right?
[14:17] <shahriyarguliyev> nah. but it's just like a application into WIndows
[14:17] <ingimarsson> hi
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Snowie: could go for MPEG, most junk can play that
[14:18] <shahriyarguliyev> yes, on C:, but I dont wanna take risk to remove my data on D:
[14:18] <Snowie> ActionParsnip, lol, correct, i think that's the xbox's way of saying it doesnt like to be called junk. it's fussy as
[14:18] <Captain_Proton> resno, sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[14:18] <gawshee> Bought Humble Bundle, installed Swords and Sworcery from the Software Center and  now it wont't start. Using Ubuntu 11.10.
[14:18] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: to be risk free as I told you, make a backup. In the install menu you should get the option to replace Windows, which normally won't touch the second partition
[14:18] <gawshee> How do I fix it?
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> gawshee: do other games run ok, like super tux cart?
[14:19] <resno> Captain_Proton: then use sudo serivce lightdm restart to bring it back?
[14:19] <schnuffle> gawshee: have you tried to start it from the command line to see what errors occured?
[14:19] <imachine> hello
[14:19] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: how can I install easily? with usb stick
[14:19] <gawshee> I don't know how to start it from the terminal.
[14:20] <Captain_Proton> resno, after you reconfig reboot and see if it start correctly
[14:20] <imachine> is it possible to set up Ubuntu 12.04 so it pulls upgrades automatically, but within specified hours?
[14:20] <imachine> I'm on GSM and have a data limit during the day, but I can browse freely at night.
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> imachine: sure, just cron the update job
[14:20] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: USB is my prefered way. With xboot,yumi ... you can create a multiboot stick, test different versions and then install the one you like most
[14:20] <imachine> ActionParsnip, yeah, but I'd like it to happen automagically, using the graphical update-manager.
[14:20] <imachine> no go there right ?
[14:21] <resno> Captain_Proton: login still returns me to cli
[14:21] <imachine> ActionParsnip, I have my debian servers cron the updates and pull in critical security upgrades automatically
[14:21] <mgodzilla> mornin'...
[14:21] <imachine> ActionParsnip, I'm just looking for something, you know, Ubuntu-ish.
[14:21] <mgodzilla> screwed up my ubuntu 12.04 install - dual boot w/ winxp.
[14:21] <mgodzilla> how can i get a boot manager up and running after both oses have been installed.
[14:21] <mgodzilla> seperate physical volumes...
[14:21] <schnuffle> imachine: there's cron-apt
[14:21] <imachine> mgodzilla, run from the boot meda and reinstall grub
[14:22] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: uhm, my system is Kubuntu
[14:22] <Snowie> gawshee, have you tried running it from a terminal to see if you get an error
[14:22] <mgodzilla> mmhmm.
[14:22] <pi3ch> my ubuntu setup sometimes freezes and I need to restart, in which log file I can possibly look for problem?
[14:22] <mgodzilla> thanks so much.  i will investigate that avenue :)
[14:22] <gawshee> Snowie: How do I start it from the terminal?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> imachine: how do you mean? If you can cron the job then why not :). You can use: gksudo gnome-schedule     as a GUI to cron if you want but cron is cron
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> pi3ch: you could check your RAM using the option in Grub too :)
[14:23] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: i've got a STartup DIsk Creator, should I use it?
[14:23] <resno> Captain_Proton: ive tried resetting the xorg.conf but it still gets me no further, im pretty sure an update did this :(
[14:23] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: is it the one that comes with ubuntu?
[14:23] <pi3ch> ActionParsnip: u mean memory test in grub?
[14:23] <Snowie> gawshee, i think this may be your answer mate http://askubuntu.com/questions/145024/sword-and-sworcery-seg-fault
[14:23] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: yes
[14:24] <shahriyarguliyev> i can install recommended app, if u prefer
[14:24] <pi3ch> ActionParsnip: I think there should be issue either with my graphic card / some sort of kernel panic.
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> pi3ch: yes
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> pi3ch: its a good place to start
[14:24] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: no no, that is okay use it. The other tools are just more comfortable and anyway yumi and xboot are windows tools
[14:25] <pi3ch> ActionParsnip: my current setup does not give me an option to select mem test, it start ubuntu stratigh away, is there any way to run mem test durring boot?
[14:26] <schnuffle> pi3ch: Hold the shift key to get the options
[14:26] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: my question is if I create a removable disk to install after restart as it demands, on which  disk it should install auto or it will be asked?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> pi3ch: hold shift at boot and it will
[14:26] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: You will be asked
[14:27] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle:  that is the best anser
[14:27] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: now im sure about it
[14:27] <imachine> ActionParsnip, oh, my bad
[14:27] <pi3ch> schnuffle: cheers, will give a try.
[14:27] <imachine> ActionParsnip, ofc  I can cron the gui ;)
[14:27] <Captain_Proton> resno, does Plymouth start? the purple Ubuntu on boot
[14:27] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle:  how about backups?
[14:27] <resno> Captain_Proton: i see the ubunt loading screening, yes
[14:28] <imachine> I'll just have update-manager run via my local user crontab :-)
[14:28] <Captain_Proton> if you do a startx does the desktp load
[14:28] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: No change on a PC is risk free, so its always good to save important data
[14:28] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: what should I backup? it's FOlders to backup is only "HOme" folder shown.
[14:28] <ska> I'm upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04lts.. sudo do-release-upgrade -d ?
[14:29] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: Only data that is important to you. Your music, pictures ......
[14:29] <Snowie> gawshee, i have heard good things about humble indy bundle. im sure if you contact them and show them that link and explain your having trouble, im sure they can help
[14:29] <Snowie> ska
[14:29] <freakolowsky> FFS ... with every thing i do to make ubuntu run faster ... it gets slower
[14:29] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: in my home folder there are nothing. I kept everything on D: disk
[14:29] <Snowie> ska, i did it via software centre no dramas. mad it alot easier. though with my stack of freetardware, my update was 2g
[14:30] <resno> Captain_Proton: nope, i just see everything thats suppose to load, and then it stalls there
[14:30] <Geothom380> lol
[14:30] <Snowie> ska, sorry, missed your jumping versions. i don't think that's recommended
[14:30] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: can i restore my apps back in new OS?
[14:30] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: Have you any external HD you can save D on? Normally there should be no problem but I don't know your skills and you can destroy D during the partition phase if you use the wrong choice
[14:30] <imachine> ActionParsnip, thanks for the wake up
[14:30] <imachine> lates
[14:31] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: you can reinstall them
[14:31] <ska> Snowie: i'm going LTS to LTS.. should be supported..
[14:31] <Snowie> ska, i though 10.10 was the last lts
[14:31] <Pici> ska: yes, you can go from 10.04 to 12.04 by using do-release-upgrade -d
[14:32] <Pici> ska: when 12.04.1 comes out, you won't need to use -d
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> pi3ch: wouldn't -d go to Quantal?
[14:33] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: I will try
[14:33] <shahriyarguliyev> thanks
[14:33] <wcs> hi folks
[14:33] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: Good luck
[14:33] <ponto> Hi, we have poor NFS server performance after updating to 12.04 LTS. Is there a known problem?
[14:34] <fidel> hi - my firefox flash plugin  seems to crash more and more on a daily basis - forcing me to try the sometimes working reload. are you guys realizing similar stability flash-issues in 12.04/64bit? If so - any idea what i can try to slightly improve the situation? using some specific flash-ppa/dev-builds from adobe itself or similar?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> ponto: have you checked for bugs?
[14:34] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: btw i will backup anyway, the location is Ubuntu ONe. it's OK?
[14:34] <Captain_Proton> resno, try to reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[14:34] <resno> Captain_Proton: using taskel?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> fidel: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[14:34] <resno> tasksel? Captain_Proton
[14:34] <mgodzilla> got it.  had to change the boot sequence.  ubuntu volume is no sata0.  and grub kicked in nicely.
[14:34] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev:  Maybe for you, not for me.
[14:35] <mgodzilla> thank again :)
[14:35] <Captain_Proton> resno, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[14:35] <fidel> ActionParsnip: for sure - gimme a sec
[14:35] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: what is your offer?
[14:35] <gawshee> Snowie, thank you for the help. Have my internets for a day!
[14:35] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: Get a external USB harddrive
[14:35] <wcs> i installed kde on ubuntu, but gtk apps actualy dont integrate at all with kde 4.8.3. I have already installed gtk-config-kde, gtk2|gtk3-oxygen but don't work at all
[14:36] <ska> Pici: Should I wait for 12.04-1?
[14:36] <Pici> ska: thats up to you.
[14:36] <fidel> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025118/
[14:36] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: I will ask for my friends, i've no external. only 700 GB internal
[14:36] <legoff> anybody using microsoft here
[14:36] <tuxgeek> !ot | legoff
[14:37] <shahriyarguliyev> legoff: me
[14:37] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: MY policy is: "my data belongs to me", so I don't use the new buzz called cloud. Okay lets say I only use my own cloud as today even a apache service is called cloud
[14:37] <hakermania> Anybody that uses Wallch here :D ?
[14:37] <nordle> Hello, anyone else having fun with 12.04 and gstreamer MP3 presets for Rhythmbox  / Sound Juicer?  I ask because gst-inspect lame shows its deprecated, but gst-inspect lamemp3enc has FAR fewer options for encoding mp3's...... just me?
[14:38] <resno> Captain_Proton: done, and no imrpvoement. tried startx and the screen just went black
[14:38] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: agree with you
[14:39] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: btw i've never installed linux OS, is it complicated?
[14:39] <kroonrs> I need to capture F11 in an xterm on unity, but the title bar menu keeps catching the keystroke - any suggestions for how to disable f11 for the title bar?
[14:39] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: I would say mostly easier as installing Windows but it depends on your hardware
[14:40] <nordle> What is really weird, gstreamer site claims that lame is deprecated and not lamemp3enc......
[14:40] <hakermania> shahriyarguliyev, it is very easy nowadays, especially if you have the right hardware
[14:40] <Captain_Proton> resno, are there any errors in tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:41] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: 4GB RAM, corei5, 1GB videocart
[14:41] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: Yesterday I installed Precise amd64/Windows7 64  on a new Dell E6420.  Windows7: missing a lot of drivers ( no network ) ubuntu: everything worked out of the box
[14:41] <steveg> anybody haveing issues with thunderbird and a standard gmail imap account in 12.04
[14:41] <ponto> ActionParsnip: yes. did not find something similar.
[14:41] <steveg> slow starts, crashes..
[14:41] <steveg> timeouts
[14:41] <kroonrs> I mean ubuntu's unified title bar, not xterm's title bar, by the way
[14:42] <Teth> hey, i was just wondering, the most recent version of ubuntu has this behavior where the mouse "sticks" when I try to move between my two monitors
[14:42] <tuxx-> does anyone know how i can disable the keyboard feature where i have to hit space after i pressed a ' for it to show up?
[14:42] <Teth> what is this called and what option lets me turn it off?
[14:42] <akshayk29> Hey friends,I recently installed ubuntu from a usb stick with windows xp for dual booting.But after installing,ubuntu setup prompting to restart,restarting there is no grub bootloader and there is no operating system selection,instead it directly boots into xp without any prompt,and my hard disk space is also less to 1.22 GB :-(.Any help guys?
[14:42] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: same here, Dell N5110. W7 has no taste
[14:42] <fidel> Teth: doesnt happen here with dual-screen-setup. could you add some more infos
[14:42] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle:  but everybody here uses Windows. compability matters
[14:43] <ska> if "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" crashes or system crashes during upgrade, can I recover from that?
[14:43] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: which linux distro u would prefer?
[14:43] <Teth> there's not much more info to add. this is the default behavior after I upgraded. the mouse will not cross the border between my two monitors freely unless I'm "breaking through" at high velocity
[14:43] <resno> Captain_Proton: no, nothing
[14:44] <llutz> tuxx-: set XKBVARIANT="nodeadkeys" in /etc/default/keyboard
[14:44] <tuxx-> thanks llutz
[14:45] <tuxx-> just restart x after the change i guess llutz ? :)
[14:45] <tuxx-> gonna try :P
[14:45] <llutz> tuxx-: should do, yes
[14:45] <tuxx-> this has been bugging me for 2 weeks now, hehe :D
[14:45] <tuxx-> doesnt help while coding
[14:45] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: I go with Suse,Ubuntu,Fedore,CentOS .......
[14:46] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: they say RedHat is also cool
[14:46] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: If you prefer KDE I would go for Suse
[14:46] <fidel> ActionParsnip: something eye-catchy for you in my flash output/paste?
[14:47] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: I have only used Slackware, Fedora, Mint (Julia) and Ubuntu
[14:47] <Teth> so, no one even knows what this behavior is called?
[14:47] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: this goes offtopic. So better talk in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:47] <Captain_Proton> resno, if you restart lightdm : /etc/lightdm restart      does it throw any errors
[14:48] <fidel> Teth: it might be interesting what desktop-enviroment you are using and how you configured yourdual-screen setup
[14:48] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: I dont prefer KDE just I installed onto Light -ubuntu just for trying
[14:48] <jeek> teth: Sticky edges
[14:48] <Teth> finally :P
[14:48] <jeek> There's a setting for it in Displays
[14:48] <Teth> thank you jeek
[14:48] <jeek> Took me 3 seconds of Googling.
[14:48] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: are you mod or what here?
[14:48] <Teth> what did you type? :P
[14:48] <Teth> into google
[14:48] <schnuffle> jeek: Google Foo isn't that easy to learn
[14:48] <jeek> ubuntu multiple screens sticky
[14:48] <jeek> I didn't even use quotes!
[14:49] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: No, as normal as you are
[14:49] <resno> Captain_Proton: no, screent turns black and the machine seems to freeze
[14:49] <Teth> ok, i failed to think then :P
[14:49] <Teth> however, changing this setting == retarded
[14:49] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle:  so y u care about offtopic
[14:49] <Teth> the new "start" menu is also utter nonsense
[14:50] <Teth> I like being able to search for applications. I do
[14:50] <jeek> Calling Ubuntu's recent spat of UI changes retarded is an insult to actual developmentally disabled people
[14:50] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: a lot off normal people care about as it gets hard to follow
[14:50] <wcs> exit
[14:50] <Teth> but being able to find them in a folder hierarchy still works for me
[14:50] <Teth> except that that's gone
[14:50] <tuxx-> thanks llutz, works like a charm :-)
[14:50] <Captain_Proton> move back to the the other tty by hit ctrl + alt f1 , f2 etc.. see if you can find the other seesion
[14:50] <Teth> it tends to make me angry
[14:50] <Captain_Proton> session
[14:50] <Teth> really angry
[14:50] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: k. this is my first IRC chat
[14:51] <fidel> Teth: if it comes just to launching apps i still heavily recommend using Kupfer - nice launcher
[14:51] <resno> Captain_Proton: i really think its frozen, becuase "caps lock" doesnt illuminate like normal. and no thoses sessions arent working
[14:51] <fidel> comes with a tons of small but lovely extras,plugins etc and doesnt force me to some kind of display-filling meta-layer ;)
[14:52] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: im going offline, thanks a lot. cya
[14:52] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: you're welcome
[14:52] <Captain_Proton> resno, the only other thing I can think of rename your xorg.conf if you have one to xorg.conf.old and reboot
[14:52] <resno> Captain_Proton: lol, done that a few times
[14:53] <fasta> Which graphics driver does the Ubuntu livecd use by default?
[14:53] <schnuffle> resno: any propritary drivers installed?
[14:53] <resno> schnuffle: yes.
[14:54] <Captain_Proton> resno, have you tried to boot into recovery mode? or if you have nvidia or ati drivers remove them
[14:54] <cpet> fasta: normal default drivers known to work on most hardware
[14:54] <Captain_Proton> resno, other then that dude I dont know
[14:54] <resno> Captain_Proton: doesnt reseting the xorg file fix that or no?
[14:54] <schnuffle> resno: I'm not  a X expert, but I would first get rid off them because there's a lot of problem due to them
[14:54] <fasta> cpet: is that what I asked?
[14:55] <resno> Captain_Proton: schnuffle how do you remove the drivers?
[14:55] <fasta> (on Ati/Amd hardware)
[14:55] <resno> im using an amd driver
[14:55] <schnuffle> resno: once your X is working again you can reinstall the closedsource once
[14:55] <schnuffle> resno: nvidia or AMD/ATI?
[14:55] <Captain_Proton> resno, you have to take a look must of the time it just rewrite them but keep them enabled -
[14:55] <resno> schnuffle: amd
[14:56] <schnuffle> resno: So catalyst, what graphic card model?
[14:56] <jason200012> I'm getting performance issues running ubuntu 12, I've tried other window managers but wondering how I can speed this system up. I've got Intel pentium 4 2.4GZ with 1.5 Gigs of DDR and 250Gig SATA 5400 rpm drive. My hard drive avg read speed is 57 MB / Second. my load seems high load average: 1.05, 1.20, 1.21
[14:56] <resno> radeon
[14:56] <resno> schnuffle: radeon
[14:56] <resno> do you need specifics? schnuffle
[14:56] <Teth> I now am less likely to kill someone today.
[14:56] <schnuffle> resno:  more specific
[14:56] <Teth> thank you
[14:56] <mzcl-mn> hello everybody
[14:57] <resno> schnuffle: amd radeon hd 6350
[14:57] <cpet> fasta: I would say yes, but I take it you don't think that?
[14:57] <Captain_Proton> renato, uninstall the drivers that should get you to boot right from there you should be able to fix the driver problem
[14:57] <fasta> cpet: which has a specific meaning.
[14:57] <mzcl-mn> did anyone complainded shortly after making mesa updates to their amd graphics system since last sunday?
[14:58] <schnuffle> resno: uninstall fglrx*
[14:58] <Captain_Proton> renato, after you uninstall make sure there are no xorg.conf or they are all renamed
[14:58] <fasta> cpet: I didn't ask 'which class of drivers'.
[14:58] <resno> schnuffle: this install isnt using fglrx :-\
[14:58] <nachox> is there anyone running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS who might do me a favor? would you mind running "openssl s_client -connect www.gmail.com:443 -ssl2" and telling me if it errors out?
[14:58] <resno> schnuffle: i actually insalled the drivers from amd/ati because because the ones from ubuntu never worked/or installed
[14:59] <schnuffle> resno: so you use the open sosurce driver?
[14:59] <mzcl-mn> resno: ok
[14:59] <cpet> fasta: Ok in that case it uses VESA which is compatible on most cards these days.
[14:59] <cpet> fasta: And you now earned an ignore :)
[14:59] <Captain_Proton> resno, schnuffle i think he build them for ati site
[14:59] <mzcl-mn> i figure you have the same problem as me and a friend of mine
[14:59] <resno> Captain_Proton: yea, is was the only way i could get it to work...
[15:00] <schnuffle> nachox: CONNECTED(00000003)
[15:00] <schnuffle> 27800:error:1407F0E5:SSL routines:SSL2_WRITE:ssl handshake failure:s2_pkt.c:428:
[15:00] <resno> Captain_Proton: schnuffle one sec, let me reboot
[15:00] <melkor> I don't use unity, is it safe to uninstall it?
[15:00] <fasta> cpet: all wrong.
[15:00] <Ormie> how do i enable compiz in ubuntu?
[15:00] <fasta> cpet: you shouldn't be answering questions here.
[15:01] <nachox> schnuffle now this is odd, the same exact command here fails to work because of an unknown option. lsb_release -a says what?
[15:01] <resno> schnuffle: Captain_Proton ha, now my screens go to sleep, no cli/ unity
[15:01] <schnuffle> nachox: no lsb stuff installed
[15:02] <Captain_Proton> melkor, if you like but make sure you do it from the command line and see what dependency it want to remove. it does not use anything if it not running
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: press ALT+F2 and run:  compiz --replace
[15:02] <nachox> schnuffle,  i thought it was default, iit is Ubuntu 12.04 LTS you have installed, right? :)
[15:03] <Captain_Proton> resno, what did you do remove the driver ?
[15:03] <schnuffle> nachox: Debian Squeeze
[15:03] <resno> Captain_Proton: apt-get purge fglrx*
[15:03] <promptcommand> does anyone knows a way to install ubu12.04 from a local repo?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> schnuffle: debian isn't supported here
[15:03] <nachox> schnuffle,  oh, it doesnt count, i need someone with that exact release
[15:03] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, Whoa everything washed right up! that wasn't fun at all.
[15:03] <resno> Captain_Proton: let me try resetting the xorg.cong file
[15:04] <Captain_Proton> renato, remove or renome it
[15:04] <resno> Captain_Proton: in recovery
[15:04] <nachox> ActionParsnip, he was actually trying to give me a hand with openssl in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> oh my bad
[15:04] <cpet> fasta: Regardless of me being right or wrong, you being a bitch about it wont help you much in regards to recieving help. Failing to search for it on google makes you just as lazy as me just spting random shit out.
[15:04] <nachox> ActionParsnip, you dont happen to have that installed, do you? :)
[15:04] <schnuffle> ActionParsnip: I know and won't support it
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> nachox: have what installed?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> schnuffle: my bad :)
[15:05] <nachox> that particular vesion of ubuntu
[15:05] <fasta> cpet: you could have said utfs.
[15:05] <fasta> cpet: being wrong is orders of magnitude wrong.
[15:05] <schnuffle> :)
[15:05] <aceps> Hi, Does anyone use icecat 12 on ubuntu? if so, I need some help with installation. Currently trying './configure && make && sudo make install' to make the installation, but get's this error: 'configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables.'
[15:05] <Captain_Proton> resno, xorg loads the right one, you do not need it any more unless you are load nvidia or ati drivers
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> nachox: I have 12.04 on my server and 12.10 on my laptop
[15:05] <fasta> cpet: er worse
[15:06] <nachox> ActionParsnip, would you mind testing something in your server then?
[15:06] <Captain_Proton> resno, so for right now now remove or renome it
[15:06] <fasta> cpet: just because you want to help, doesn't mean you should. Take the hint.
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> nachox: depends what it is...
[15:06] <nachox> ActionParsnip, "openssl s_client -connect www.gmail.com:443 -ssl2"
[15:07] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, Nothing happened.
[15:07] <Ormie> What do i do next?
[15:07] <numberto> Hi guys, I ssh'ed into my server and wanto to delete a folder in www/joomla/jupgrade. But when I do that it says that I don't have permission to do it. (It deletes with filezilla though)
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> nachox: without the -ssl2 it's ok
[15:07] <nachox> ActionParsnip, it basically connects with www.gmail.com and opens an SSLv2 session against its 443 tcp port. nothing harmful
[15:07] <Captain_Proton> nachox, unknown option -ssl2 / usage: s_client args
[15:07] <nachox> well, the thing is that -ssl2 IS a valid option
[15:08] <resno> Captain_Proton: desktop!
[15:08] <nachox>  -ssl2         - just use SSLv2
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> nachox: gotcha, but the -ssl2 just outputs the syntax of the command
[15:08] <schnuffle> numberto: use sudo
[15:08] <Captain_Proton> resno, it booted right?
[15:08] <Captain_Proton> resno, sweet!!!
[15:08] <numberto> schnuffle: i do, but it says that the user is not in sodoers
[15:08] <nachox> ActionParsnip, which is why i think someone screwed the openssl package in ubuntu :)
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: do you have 3D accelleration setup
[15:09] <Captain_Proton> resno, do you do any gaming?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> nachox: report a bug if you suspect one :)
[15:09] <resno> Captain_Proton: im actually having a similar problem at home, so ill need to figure it out there
[15:09] <resno> Captain_Proton: yes i do
[15:09] <nachox> how can i tell who the mantainer of the package is?
[15:09] <schnuffle> numberto: then you need to login as  user that has sudo rights
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> nachox: doesn't matter, just run: ubuntu-bug openssl
[15:10] <Captain_Proton> resno, ok I was going to say if you do not then the opensource one is ok for work stuff
[15:10] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, I know nothing about graphics, so I don't know what you mean and I didn't install 3D Accelleration.
[15:10] <numberto> schnuffle: well, I log in with just the same login with filezilla and it can deletes the folder without any problems
[15:10] <resno> Captain_Proton: well i dual screen, and it wouldnt do it right otherwise
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: what is the output of:  lspci | grep -i vga
[15:10] <sergeantcupcake> howdy!
[15:10] <saurabh_> I am bored with programming. Where can I have fun?
[15:10] <schnuffle> numberto: One is SSH the other is FTP or do you use SCP?
[15:10] <Pici> saurabh_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:11] <Captain_Proton> resno, I would really upgrade to 12.04 they done a lot of work on dual monitors works really will
[15:11] <Captain_Proton> well*
[15:11] <numberto> schnuffle: no, but I thought when you buy hosting you get the sudo right too
[15:11] <mzcl-mn> I suspect the recent upgrading of mesa (last sunday) prevented me from using the proprietor drivers of amd and made it impossible to use compiz in ubuntu (unity 3d) does anyone know how to solve this?
[15:12] <Ormie> !pastebin > Ormie
[15:12] <schnuffle> numberto: Ask your ISP, I don't know
[15:12] <resno> Captain_Proton: haha, this is 12.04- fresh install even
[15:12] <kasun_> schnuffle, ActionParsnip, hi again, I killed the update-manager instance, and tried to run the dpkg command. But it I got "dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process"
[15:12] <Captain_Proton> resno, sorry I thought it was 11.10
[15:12] <Ormie> !pastebin
[15:12] <kasun_> schnuffle, ActionParsnip  shall I just remove the lock files?
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> dual monitor on nivida  in 12.04 works well here also.
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | kasun_
[15:13] <schnuffle> kasun_: First check if there's another process, if not delete the lock file
[15:13] <Ormie> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025170/
[15:14] <Captain_Proton> resno, will now that you are at a desktop ask around for ATI help. I do not have any here so I am no help there
[15:14] <resno> Captain_Proton: nope, 12.04 64bit
[15:14] <kasun_> you guys are awesome... schnuffle ActionParsnip
[15:14] <resno> Captain_Proton: meh, it only worked in recovery, normal mode isnt working
[15:14] <mzcl-mn> ubottu: how does !pastebin command work?
[15:14] <mzcl-mn> ubottu: :)
[15:15] <dlentz> !botsnack
[15:15] <Captain_Proton> resno, it stilling trying to load the ati driver
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: you may need an xorg.conf if the display is not picking up
[15:15] <Ormie> Um...
[15:15] <schnuffle> mzcl-mn:  just pipe everything to pastebinit   <your command> | pastebinit
[15:15] <Ormie> !bot
[15:15] <aceps> Hi, Does anyone use icecat 12 on ubuntu? if so, I need some help with installation. Currently trying './configure && make && sudo make install' to make the installation, but get's this error: 'configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables.'
[15:15] <Captain_Proton> is there any xorg.conf left in /etc/X11 ?
[15:15] <Ormie> Favorite info bot? lol.
[15:15] <aceps> I also tried version 10, same problem.
[15:16] <aceps> I'm using ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[15:16] <nachox> ActionParsnip, known issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/955675
[15:16] <mzcl-mn> thankyou schnuffle
[15:16] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, Well, I typed the command you gave me and it refresh as if I restart X
[15:16] <N3WB13>  <ubottu> paste this to the terminal: curl -s -S --data-urlencode "txt=$(sudo lshw -html)" "http://pastehtml.com/upload/create?input_type=html&result=address";echo; this is you are find?
[15:17] <Captain_Proton> I wonder if 64 bit is causing so of the problem? some of the compatible stuff is not 100%
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> aceps:  you did install the build essential package and all the needed dev packages to compile that app?
[15:17] <schnuffle> nachox: Damned could have avoided you the search, stunbled across it when first checking your question
[15:17] <Ormie> !yay
[15:17] <Ormie> !no
[15:17] <Ormie> What!
[15:17] <aceps> Dr_Willis, I'm not sure. How would I find out?
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> aceps:  i would guess you havent then. Install 'build-essential' and the needed dev packages
[15:18] <schnuffle> Ormie: no=norwegian
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> !compile
[15:18] <Ormie> Oh!
[15:18] <dlentz> aceps, audo apt-get build-dep icecat might help as well
[15:18] <ozpy> Hi guys... What software in linux is the one that  can open Corel Draw files? Tried gimp but was not successfull
[15:18] <dlentz> *sudo
[15:18] <aceps> Dr_Willis, OK
[15:19] <schnuffle> ozpy: Bitmap or Vector?
[15:19] <resno> seems ubuntu gets less stable each time i update :\
[15:19] <ozpy> schnuffle: I never heard of those ones. Let me try it out. You have experience with them?
[15:19] <schnuffle> resno: Was my impression as well but uü to now 12.04 does really strong
[15:19] <aceps> dlentz: thanks, I'll try it after build-essentials is done.
[15:20] <dlentz> ozpy, you can use python-uniconverter to convert to svg
[15:20]  * Ormie slaps ubottu
[15:21] <schnuffle> ozpy: bitmap or vector is a question which format you want to open. Gimp should do well with bitmap, for vecor you can try inkscape
[15:21] <Captain_Proton> resno, personally I think the push to 64bit is premature. If you can reinstall to 32bit. I think you will find it is alot faster and you will have less problems
[15:21] <mzcl-mn> resno: did you solve your problem?
[15:21] <ozpy> dlentz: Thanks. I'll try it
[15:21] <resno> mzcl-mn: nope, they just keep going and going
[15:21] <alecbenzer> does anyone know of an auto-tiling plugin for compiz that could be used with unity?
[15:22] <ozpy> schnuffle: Of I get it. It's for vector.
[15:22] <resno> Captain_Proton: im pretty close to that, cause im burning up time
[15:22] <dlentz> i've been using 64-bit Linux for 6 years, and it's much better than it used to be
[15:22] <Ormie> !th
[15:22] <mzcl-mn> resno: it is related to graphics driver isn't it?
[15:22] <Captain_Proton> mzcl-mn, resno he removed ati drivers, but it still tring to load them crasing xorg
[15:22] <Ormie> NICE!
[15:23] <mzcl-mn> resno: what procedure did you follow to uninstall
[15:23] <schnuffle> ozpy: So try inkscape, very good app but I'm not sure it can import Coral Draw files
[15:23] <Edler> what's the best repo i can add that has at least php 5.3.3 (for ubuntu 10.04lts)
[15:24] <resno> i can startx only from revoery..
[15:24] <resno> mzcl-mn: sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[15:24] <dlentz> resno, can you get an Xorg log from trying to start normally?
[15:24] <cpet> mzcl-mn: have you tried genrating a new xorg conf ?
[15:25] <Ormie> Who hired that guy with op on #ubuntu-th?
[15:25] <mzcl-mn> resno: so you had ubuntu's proprietary drivers am i right?
[15:25] <kasun_> ActionParsnip I ran the command you provided. It finished without errors. But when I run `sudo dpkg -l | grep grub` provides this output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025192/
[15:25] <resno> mzcl-mn: no, i use drivers from ati/amd sites. as the ones from ubunutu "driver manager" always failed to install
[15:25] <salbra75> !list
[15:25] <kasun_> ActionParsnip, schnuffle specifically, ub                                   0.97-29ubuntu64                         GRand Unified Bootloader (Legacy version) is there
[15:25] <kasun_> :(
[15:26] <cpet> resno: try generating a new xorg conf
[15:26] <resno> mzcl-mn: 1 failed, the other didnt improve the it
[15:26] <Edler> hey guys, what's the best repo i can add that has at least php 5.3.3 (for ubuntu 10.04lts)
[15:26] <mzcl-mn> resno: didn't you try to use their command to uninstall?
[15:26] <kasun_> ActionParsnip, schnuffle   i haven't removed legacy grub. Didn't it was a must!!
[15:27] <salbra75> !list
[15:27] <mzcl-mn> resno: sudo aticonfig --uninstall
[15:27] <Ormie> Can anyone solve me compiz problem?
[15:27] <mzcl-mn> Ormie: what problem exactly?
[15:28] <schnuffle> kasun_: a boot loader is a must, let me check what grub provides
[15:28] <Ormie> mzcl-mn, It's not quite a problem, I want to use compiz on ubuntu.
[15:28] <mzcl-mn> resno: but now perhaps it won't work
[15:29] <resno> mzcl-mn: says, one or more files have been altered since installion,
[15:29] <ozpy> How can I scroll the chat window up?... no right bar on the side for it
[15:29] <kasun_> schnuffle, sure... waiting for your reply.
[15:29] <resno> mzcl-mn: try forcing?
[15:29] <resno> ozpy: usually page up
[15:29] <dlentz> ozpy, page up?
[15:29] <mzcl-mn> resno: only last resort is to force (my policy)
[15:29] <ozpy> dlentz: thanks!
[15:29] <ozpy> resno: thanks!
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> Ormie unity is gnome3 with compiz
[15:30] <resno> mzcl-mn: is this a last resort?
[15:30] <dlentz> resno, can you get an Xorg log from trying to start normally?
[15:30] <mzcl-mn> resno: why don't you try to install ati again and then uninstall?
[15:30] <mzcl-mn> resno: it seems silly but may do the trick
[15:30] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, If there is compiz then, I want to customize compiz and use woobly windows and other effects.
[15:30] <Ormie> how?
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> is ubuntu protected against the 'flame' virus?
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  in unity, it's a bad idea, i tried it
[15:31] <resno> mzcl-mn: ok, ill try it but i must run toa meeting. :(
[15:31] <schnuffle> kasun_:  when you try to install grub-pc what happens?
[15:31] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, what happened?
[15:31] <mzcl-mn> Ormie: what drivers are you using
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  buggy, hangs, becomes slow and instable
[15:31] <resno> thanks schnuffle dlentz mzcl-mn Captain_Proton hopefully i can get it resolved on my return
[15:31] <mzcl-mn> resno: no worries
[15:31] <mzcl-mn> resno: good luck
[15:31] <schnuffle> resno: good luck
[15:31] <Captain_Proton> resno, :)
[15:31] <dlentz> resno, what kind of card was it again?
[15:31] <Ormie> mzcl-mn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025170/
[15:31] <resno> we can try with my other desktop later... its havnig a similar driver issue
[15:32] <resno> dlentz: radeon hd 6350
[15:32] <resno> ill be "away" if yall think of anything
[15:32] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, I just type "compiz --replace" will that be ok?
[15:33]  * Ormie yawns
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  i guess you want ccsm
[15:33] <Ormie> huh?
[15:33] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, What do you mean?
[15:33] <retis> hi i am using ubuntu 10.04, installed Netbeans IDE 6.7.1 from neatbean archive, now i want to delete it but i could't able to find it in my synaptic package manager,can any one please tell me how can i uninstall that by using terminal?
[15:33] <mzcl-mn> resno: today a friend of mine had a problem with an amd similar if not equal to yours
[15:34] <Ormie> retis, sudo apt-get remove netbeans*
[15:34] <kasun_> schnuffle, nothing special. it installed
[15:34] <retis> Ormie, tried but not working
[15:34] <schnuffle> retis: http://askubuntu.com/questions/76908/how-to-uninstall-netbeans
[15:34] <core1765> Hello...anyone have an issue with updates yesterday. Downloaded some updates and ran rkhunter found 135 suspicious files. Didn't look into them to closely though
[15:34] <ska> is there any indirect way to see what the status/progress of an upgrade is?
[15:35] <kasun_> let me give the log
[15:35] <mzcl-mn> Ormie: have you used compiz in ubuntu before?
[15:35] <kasun_> schnuffle, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025208/
[15:35] <mzcl-mn> ska: i believe there's one
[15:36] <Ormie> mzcl-mn, No, But I used it on other distro. I was crazy like boom, I make window goes boom! lol.
[15:36] <schnuffle> kasun_:   sudo dpkg -P grub-pc doesn't install it purges the packages
[15:37] <mzcl-mn> ska: gedit /var/log/apt/term.log
[15:37] <kasun_> schnuffle, yea.. I also did the sudo apt-get --reinstall install grub-pc. it starts from line 6 there
[15:37] <bluechaos> hey guys
[15:37] <mzcl-mn> it'll show you the progression of recent installations
[15:38] <core1765> kasun does this relate to the updates yesterday?
[15:38] <bluechaos> who know to tell me how to replace desktop from ubuntu 12.03 with 11.10
[15:38] <schnuffle> kasun_: Aaah  see so what is the remaining problem?
[15:38] <C-S-B> 12.04
[15:38] <mzcl-mn> ska: but it will also allow you to change the file so be careful
[15:39] <bluechaos> someone ?
[15:39] <kevinprince> Hi, im wondering if anyone can help with a multi display setup?
[15:39] <kasun_> schnuffle, Im scared to reboot right now. specially after seeing this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025192/
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> !ccsm| Ormie
[15:40] <core1765> bluechaos you have a choice of desktops do you have unity or kde?
[15:40] <kasun_> schnuffle, the version of grub is still 0.97-29ubuntu64
[15:40] <kasun_> am i just being paranoid
[15:40] <kasun_> ?
[15:40] <C-S-B> kasun_, it's not difficult to install grub. :D
[15:40] <schnuffle> kasun_: Why that looks fine.  rc means removed
[15:40] <C-S-B> core1765, he left.
[15:40] <schnuffle> kasun_: You should run update-grub
[15:41] <kasun_> schnuffle, oh really? I didn't know that. phew
[15:41] <core1765> C-S-B any ideas about any updates being corrupted yesterday?
[15:41] <core1765> relating to grub
[15:41] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, So does my hardware support compiz? My VGA Card worked great with aero though, I got 2.6 for aero.
[15:41] <salbra75> hello
[15:41] <zihan> which desktop you are using?
[15:41] <kasun_> C-S-B, well, there was a I experimented. Can't do this anymore with the work now ;)
[15:41] <kasun_> *there was a time
[15:41] <C-S-B> core1765, no sorry, I'm fully up to date. no prob with grub.
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  don't know, i don't use it myself
[15:42] <core1765> when I updated yesterday ran rkhunter and detected 135 suspicious files
[15:42] <salbra75> !list
[15:42] <zihan> How to config the alsamixer?
[15:43] <Ormie> okay.
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: Windows has different support and driver structure so is irrelevant
[15:44] <C-S-B> kasun_, if you want to be sure grub is there, just do grub-update /dev/sdx where sdx is your boot drive.
[15:44] <Ormie> ok, you are idle for sometime.
[15:44] <flyingrain> whois ActionParsnip
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: I was, I'm at work...
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> flyingrain: ni what sense?
[15:45] <Ormie> Oh!
[15:45] <flyingrain> never mind
[15:45] <flyingrain> This is my first time to use irc
[15:45] <kasun_> C-S-B, yea...i probably should... im again impressed with #ubuntu 's volunteering service. cheers! schnuffle ActionParsnip
[15:46] <salbra75> !list
[15:47] <schnuffle> kasun_: you're welcome
[15:47] <Ormie> !list
[15:47] <flyingrain> I am a newcoming .which channel should I join?
[15:47] <Ormie> What is !list ?
[15:47] <aceps> with 'sudo apt-get build-dep icecat' I get this error: 'unable to find source package for icecat'
[15:48] <fidel> flyingrain: irc is topic-based - so it depends on what areayou feel interest in the first place
[15:48] <fidel> flyingrain: in case you have issues with ubuntu - this is the right place
[15:48] <flyingrain> ok thanks
[15:49] <thebwt> I installed a custom version of a package (libgnutls26) to implement a fix. Now that fix is in the repo version of the package. Is there an easy way to make dpkg forget my package and start using the one in the repos again?
[15:49] <fidel> flyingrain: if you want do general & somehow ubuntu related topics - consider the offtopic channel.
[15:49] <flyingrain> how?
[15:49] <core1765> list
[15:49] <fidel> flyingrain: if you ever want to discuss php-stuff -> dont mind jumping to the #php/##php channel
[15:49] <fidel> flyingrain: what how?
[15:50] <fidel> !ot > flyingrain
[15:50] <flyingrain> how to change channel
[15:50] <fidel> basically: /join #channelname
[15:50] <fidel> flyingrain: the bot should have send you a private message regarding the offtopic channel
[15:51] <salbra75> ciao
[15:51] <salbra75> !lista
[15:51] <core1765> anyone run rkhunter after updating recently?
[15:52] <core1765> realizing you always get false positives but had over 100
[15:52] <bluechaos> core1765,
[15:52] <flyingrain> #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:53] <fidel> flyingrain: not like that - its: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:53] <fidel> or: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:53] <flyingrain> I see
[15:53] <fidel> use /join - as /j is a client-specific binding here ;)
[15:54] <flyingrain> I did it
[15:54] <fidel> flyingrain: freenode itself (theirc network you are using) runs some additionalchannels themself - where you can get help regarding theirc-service of freenode itself
[15:54] <fidel> have fun ;)
[15:55] <flyingrain> ok
[15:57] <crispus> I'm trying to run '/usr/bin/udisks --mount /dev/sdc1' as non-root, but I keep getting 'Mount failed: Not Authorized'.  What gives?
[15:57] <crispus> I can run it as root, but it's not accessible to normal users
[15:57] <lgp171188> Hi, I have a Reliance Netconnect+ data card (in India) that I used with Ubuntu 11.10 amd64 to connect and access the internet. It worked out of the box with Network Manager. In 12.04, on doing the same thing, it gets connected briefly, gets IP addresses, routes and DNS servers from the ISP and then gets disconnected with the following message in the syslog - http://dpaste.com/755600/. Not sure what could be the issue here. The modem is a Huawei EC159 m
[15:57] <compdoc> crispus, the folder you try to mount to must have the right perms
[15:58] <lake> does the ipod 4g work with ubuntu out of the box?
[15:58] <lake> ipod touch 4g*
[15:58] <crispus> compdoc: how would i go about changing that?
[16:00] <compdoc> crispus, sorry, I have to go
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> lake: could try the liveCD to test
[16:01] <Ormie> !yay > Ormie
[16:01] <Ormie> !yay | Ormie
[16:02] <Ormie> Yay for me, Compiz on a netbook!
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  geek, you congratulate yourself
[16:02] <Ormie> Compiz on netbook!
[16:02] <Ormie> Cool.
[16:02] <Jef91> when I hit apply in synaptic it is telling me applying changes will cause broken packages - is there any way for it to tell me which packages are being broken by my marked changes?
[16:05]  * ShinyObjects high-fives Ormie
[16:05] <davids86> ciao
[16:05] <davids86> list
[16:05] <davids86> !list
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> Jef91: if you close it and run:  sudo apt-get -f install     is it 0 installed, zero updated?
[16:06] <Jef91> yes ActionParnsip
[16:06] <Jef91> yes ActionParsnip
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Jef91: what if you install in terminal, what is output?
[16:06] <fidel> ActionParsnip: in case you remember the flash convo he had some minutes ago:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025118/
[16:06] <Ormie> Unity bar, It's not coming out?
[16:07] <Ormie> now, totally unusable system?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> fidel: ah yes
[16:07] <Ormie> oh no.
[16:07] <cypher-neo> Ormie, What is Unity bar?
[16:07] <Abhijit> how can I *only* updage adobe flash on my 12.04?
[16:07] <aFeijoBR> hi guys, I was wondering how could I setup an ubuntu desktop to be a video streaming server?
[16:07] <Abhijit> help pease
[16:07] <Abhijit> please*
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: press Windows key, calm down
[16:07] <ShinyObjects> Ormie, try the super key
[16:07] <fidel> Abhijit: just curious: why wouldnt you NOT update other packages?
[16:07] <ShinyObjects> (Oh yeah, as ActionParsnip says - windows key)
[16:07] <cypher-neo> Abhijit, Update to what?
[16:08] <ShinyObjects> Hey ActionParsnip: do you hang out at #jupitercolony on geekshed?
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> fidel: let me make a pastebin
[16:08]  * cypher-neo will brb
[16:08] <Abhijit> fidel, no time.
[16:08] <ShinyObjects> I'm trying to think if I remember you from this channel only, or if I saw you there.
[16:08] <Gnea> Abhijit: just un-select the other packages from the update-manager
[16:08] <Abhijit> cyphase, adobe flash ??
[16:08] <Abhijit> Gnea, OOkey!
[16:09] <Gnea> Abhijit: assuming that that's the method you're using
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> fidel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025272/
[16:09] <Abhijit> Gnea, hes
[16:10] <Gnea> Abhijit: yeah, that should do it. it's one of the nice features of UM :)
[16:10] <fidel> ActionParsnip: thanks
[16:11] <pirroh> is there any chan where I can get support on landscape?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> pirroh: #landscape maybe
[16:11] <arno_> Hi. What's the best way to disable my touchpad. I do it with "synclient TouchPadOff=1" but where is the best place I can put that for each startup ?
[16:11] <ska> I probably should have launched the upgrade from a terminal console.
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> !alis | pirroh
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> arno_: does it need root access?
[16:12] <arno_> ActionParsnip: no
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> arno_: then use the startup application in dash and make a startup item to run the command )
[16:13] <pirroh> ActionParsnip: thanks
[16:14] <superhero1> my vps uses -key to login to ssh. if i want sftp acces. how do i give the key?
[16:14] <arno_> ActionParsnip: thanks, it worked
[16:15] <llutz> superhero1: sftp -i path/keyfile user@host
[16:16] <superhero1> llutz ok. and where to put it? how to sftp.?
[16:16] <superhero1> llutz i need to allow which port for sftp? iam using amazon ec2
[16:17] <llutz> superhero1: sftp -i path/keyfile user@host            <- thats the command to sftp
[16:17] <crispus> I'm trying to run '/usr/bin/udisks --mount /dev/sdc1' as non-root, but I keep getting 'Mount failed: Not Authorized'.  What gives?
[16:17] <superhero1> llutz i dont know how to upload files by sftp
[16:17] <superhero1> llutz i wanted to use filezila
[16:18] <llutz> superhero1: why don't you say that then?
[16:18] <pzn> after upgrading to 12.04, the volume-up volume-down keys change too much at a single keypress. how to change this? I want to change less when I press them...
[16:18] <llutz> superhero1: idk how filezilla handles keys, try to configure your host in ~/.ssh/config
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> crispus: do you not have access to sudo?
[16:19] <crispus> If i run it as root, normal users dont have access
[16:19] <ska> Can I restart a  "do-release-upgrade -d" if it crashes my Xorg? ?
[16:19] <superhero1> llutz ok. how can i upload files by command line then?
[16:19] <superhero1> llutz the command to tupload
[16:20] <llutz> superhero1: ftp-like, read "man sftp" (put file)
[16:20] <superhero1> llutz after i connect to sftp
[16:20] <superhero1> llutz ok
[16:20] <superhero1> llutz thx
[16:21] <crispus> ActionParsnip: If i run it as root, normal users dont have access
[16:22] <ayecee> I'd like to upgrade directly from 10.04LTS to 12.04, however instead I'm prompted by update manager to upgrade to 10.10 first. How do I get it to go directly to 12.04 instead?
[16:23] <fidel> ayecee: you'll have to wait for 12.04.1 for direct update
[16:23] <fidel> from lts to lts - afaik scheduled for next month - check ubuntu docs for more details
[16:23] <ShinyObjects> crispus: check out the allow_other option for mount
[16:24] <ayecee> no way to upgrade directly now, as a test? we'd like to be ready for when 12.04.1 comes down.
[16:24] <fidel> ayecee: you can however do it right now - using some paramter while calling update-manager if thats what you are looking for
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> ayecee  August 23rd
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> Beta FeatureFreeze Ubuntu 12.04.1
[16:24] <Edler> how to enable apc in php 5.4 ?
[16:24] <ayecee> fidel: yes, thanks. This is a commandline option? I'll check the manpage.
[16:24] <crispus> ShinyObjects: ok thanks
[16:25] <szerzetes> hi! I have a problem with login screen. I install ati Radeon Mobility x1600 driver from amd, and when I restart the laptop, it not load the login sceen, only the tty1.
[16:25] <arno_> I've another question: I'm trying to set custom keyboard shortcuts (with the system settings/keyboard) using Win Key, but I cannot have them working. Is there something special I need to do to enable Win-key shortcuts ?
[16:25] <szerzetes> After I loged in, and type: sudo service lightdm start, the lightdm starts and work fine
[16:25] <szerzetes> I use Xubuntu 12.04
[16:25] <neo1691> Hey guys if anyone has nvidia drivers please let me know what is better, bumblebee or ironhead
[16:26] <ShinyObjects> sure thing crispus
[16:27] <neo1691> [typo-correct] Hey guys if anyone has nvidia graphics card using optimus please let me know what is better, bumblebee or ironhead
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> neo1691: I'd go for ironhide, i don't use it though
[16:28] <neo1691> Okay thanks!! It is newer maybe thats why its better
[16:29] <flyingcoding> any chanese here?
[16:29] <flyingcoding> any chinese here?
[16:30] <jleroux> hi
[16:30] <thebwt> I installed a custom version of a package (libgnutls26) to implement a fix. Now that fix is in the repo version of the package. Is there  an easy way to make dpkg forget my package and start using the one in the repos again?
[16:30] <xro1> Hi
[16:30] <jleroux> i'd really like to visit the ubuntu forums but I'm getting "Sorry. The administrator has banned your IP address."
[16:30] <Partyschaum> i'm using lucid 10.04 and want to update the virtual box guest additions / tools / kernel modules. any hints on how to do this since an apt-get update / upgrade doesn't work...
[16:30] <jleroux> what can i do to get the IP unbanned
[16:30] <krababbel> jleroux: contact an admin
[16:31] <jleroux> how, the site wont let me without logging in
[16:31] <jussi> jleroux: you might find someone to help in #ubuntuforums
[16:31] <jleroux> thanks, i'll try that
[16:31] <jussi> *might*
[16:31] <krababbel> jleroux: usually you can send an email, maybe
[16:32] <xro1> I installed ubuntu 12.04 and i cannot mount a sdcard... I get the following error in dmesg --> http://dpaste.com/755622/ ...  Have you an idea? Can you help me?
[16:33] <ayecee> for those who were curious, "update-manager -d" allows you to upgrade directly from 10.04 to 12.04 ahead of the 12.04.1 release
[16:34] <Ormie> i wanna have the screensaver on ubuntu.
[16:34] <Ormie> how?
[16:35] <jleroux> has "Install a command-line system." been removed from teh alternate install cd?
[16:36] <Ormie> FloodBot1 = Real, FloodBot2 = FAKE, FloodBot3 = Real.
[16:36] <brahmana> Hi all
[16:36] <brahmana> I have a Ubuntu machine running on the Amazon's AWS cloud
[16:37] <ki4ro> Ormie: Have a look here:  http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/add-enable-screensavers-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> jleroux: I'd use minimal for that
[16:37] <brahmana> The underlying physical machine experienced some connectivity problems and I am guessing that the only connected hard-drive (/dev/sda1) was not reachable during that period.
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> xro1: what file system is the partition on the SD card?
[16:38] <brahmana> Now, would that result in the OS shutting down? (or crashing)?
[16:38] <NoVoteLoss> anyone use midori browser? im trying to check it out, but after i start it i am unable to load any pages, saying it cannot resolve proxy hostname....but i have it set to no proxy
[16:38] <jleroux> ActionParsnip, cool. I'll give it a try
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> NoVoteLoss: do you use a proxy?
[16:38] <NoVoteLoss> not at all ActionParsnip
[16:38] <Ormie> thanks.
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> jleroux: installs from the web too, so makes less need to manually update after install
[16:39] <NoVoteLoss> my opera and firefox work fine ActinoParsnip
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> NoVoteLoss: I use it but i don't use a proxy. Is the proxy setting in the settings set?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> NoVoteLoss: does midori use ~/.mozilla for config?
[16:39] <brahmana_> Got disconnected, not sure if anyone said anything about my question.
[16:39] <kish> how do i start the image manager?
[16:40] <xro1> ActionParsnip,i don't know but  i would like to format it...
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> xro1: fire up gparted, see if it can do it
[16:40] <brahmana_> To simplify the question, will the OS shutdown or crash if the only disk connected to the system becomes unavailable?
[16:40] <Seryth> Hey guys. I currently run Obuntu (openbox + ubuntu 11.10) using Alsa for sound; however when I turned on my computer today, I can't hear any sound...I've not done anything that I can think of, but I can't work out why I can hear nothing...any help greatly appreciated!
[16:41] <xro1> ActionParsnip, cannot do it with "disk utility"?
[16:41] <kish> neveermmind
[16:41] <NoVoteLoss> Seryth that used to happen on my crunchbang setup, the damn speaker settings would mute themselves but not the main volume control
[16:43] <Seryth> NoVoteLoss: Ah...any idea where I can fix this from?
[16:43] <Seryth> BobMarley: Loving the nick ;)
[16:43] <BobMarley> Seryth, thanks
[16:43] <xro1> ActionParsnip, So gparted does not see the sdcard!
[16:44] <NoVoteLoss> Seryth if you run alsamixer from terminal are all of them up
[16:44] <Seryth> NoVoteLoss: "Surround Down Mix" is iff
[16:44] <Seryth> off*
[16:45] <NoVoteLoss> you should be able to use the arrow keys to move over to it and turn it up.
[16:45] <NoVoteLoss> see if that helps.
[16:45] <NoVoteLoss> as far as permanent fix.....maybe someone else can help you, idk about writing scripts and all. but i can read em and tweak em. lol
[16:46] <zykotick9> brahmana_: i'd expect it to crash, quickly and hard.
[16:47] <Seryth> NoVoteLoss: I put everything up to the white level, still no soud
[16:47] <Seryth> sound*
[16:47] <krababbel> Seryth: have you removed PA?
[16:47] <Seryth> ,
[16:47] <Seryth> oops
[16:47] <Seryth> krababbel: What do you mean? I've not removed anything...
[16:48] <krababbel> Seryth: you wrote you used alsa, pulse audio is the new sound system in 12. maybe not in 11. sorry
[16:48] <xro1> does someone coud help me to debug my sdcard?  i cannot see it... and i get an error in dmesg when i insert it... I use ubuntu 12.04
[16:49] <Socket-> Hey all, I host a minecraft server for my little brother on my ubuntu box. I have it running in a screen session as his user account.  I want him to be able to remote in via SSH and access the screen session, but nothing else. Any ideas how to do this? If he stops the server I want it to drop him from shell access
[16:49] <Seryth> krababbel: Aah, I'm with you now. No. I used to use Pulse Audio, but....don't any more.
[16:50] <krababbel> isn't that unsupported? why not using it? the new version in 12 got better surely
[16:50] <krababbel> but if alsa can't play even ...
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> xro1: is it part of a laptop?
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> krababbel: pulse has been default for a long while now
[16:51] <krababbel> Seryth: isn't there aplay to test the card? did you try that?
[16:51] <krababbel> I see ActionParsnip
[16:51] <xro1> ActionParsnip, yes... a dell 1743... My sdcard worked with my old version of ubuntu (8.04 i think)
[16:51] <Seryth> krababbel: Nothing happens when I run aplay
[16:52] <designbybeck> xro1: that is a laptop correct
[16:52] <designbybeck> xro1:  are you having problems with the headphone jack?
[16:53] <krababbel> Seryth: I'd try a ubuntu precise livecd. Other than that, look what module parameters you sound device needs maybe.
[16:54] <xro1> designbybeck, yes it is... and YES... i just notice it...
[16:54] <Seryth> krababbel: I'm just confused as to how this could happen out of the blue like it has. I've not even done apt-get update for a while
[16:54] <Ca11umD> With regards to the Update Manager, which Software Sources are strictly updates, and not new installations?
[16:55] <Ca11umD> Or are all just updates, because the 'Recommended Updates' seem to have a hell of a lot of stuff.
[16:55] <Ca11umD> sources*
[16:55] <krababbel> Seryth: unfortunaltely such things do happen, happened to me also. computers are mean :)
[16:55] <Seryth> Also, on another note: If I run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", will it just upgrade to 12.04 and keep all my files as they are? Or will shenanigans happen and I'll lose my stuff? (obviously I'll back it up anyway, just out of interest...)
[16:56] <designbybeck> xro1: was it working?
[16:56] <krababbel> home shouldn't be touched, and if it overwrites some config, it should ask Seryth
[16:56] <designbybeck> Check out this post.... I am bcooperb on there and that is what I did that fix my problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1469949
[16:56] <xro1> designbybeck, no the jack is not working...
[16:57] <designbybeck> not sure if you are having that same problem
[16:57] <xro1> designbybeck, what problem?
[16:57] <Seryth> krababbel: Great, thanks. What about other connected drives? It won't touch them will it?
[16:57] <jiffe98> anyone know how to get stunnel working with sslv2?
[16:57] <designbybeck> but I to have a Dell Studio 17 laptop and I have to do that everytime i install
[16:57] <ubuntu-studio> livros
[16:57] <Ca11umD> Installing all 203 updates won't make the system become too bulky and slow, will it?
[16:57] <krababbel> Seryth: why should it? it will upgrade you installed software
[16:58] <Seryth> krababbel: I'm updating now ;)
[16:58] <xro1> designbybeck, i had to fixed the headphone when i installed... but for the moment i need my sdcard.... do you know how to fix it?
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> Ca11umD: no, it replaces the binaries you already have
[16:58] <designbybeck> not other than what I posted, sorry xro1
[16:59] <zykotick9> xro1: what is the dmesg error when you insert a card?
[17:00] <xro1> zykotick9, Jun  5 18:46:16 b4ck kernel: [ 4160.104547] mmc0: ADMA error
[17:00] <xro1> Jun  5 18:46:16 b4ck kernel: [ 4160.104620] mmc0: error -5 whilst initialising SD card
[17:00] <zykotick9> xro1: is this backtrack?
[17:00] <xro1> zykotick9, nop... b4ck is my username :P
[17:01] <xro1> zykotick9, it's a ubuntu 12.04 with unity (fresh install)
[17:02] <xro1> zykotick9, the dmesg in a better way --> http://dpaste.com/755632/
[17:02] <jiffe98> hah
[17:03] <jiffe98> the openssl s_client is erroring out because it doesn't recognize the -ssl2 option, and then lists available options of which -ssl2 is one of them
[17:03] <Kanerix> jiffe98, you may need to update openssl
[17:03] <funkymonk> I'm looking at Analog (the www log analyzing app). How do I compile it for Ubuntu?
[17:04] <Kanerix> force reinstall
[17:04] <Kanerix> funkymonk, does it have documentation for how to compile it?
[17:04] <Kanerix> most source distributions do
[17:05] <funkymonk> Kanerix: this is the download page http://www.analog.cx/download.html
[17:05] <Kanerix> okay?
[17:05] <Kanerix> What do you want me to do?
[17:05] <Kanerix> I can't think for you
[17:06] <Kanerix> It even says what to do at the very bottom of the page
[17:06] <zykotick9> xro1: does "lspci -v | grep -i rocoh" return "03:00.0 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd Device e822"?
[17:06] <Kanerix> "These packages contain the source code for all versions, and instructions. It compiles "out of the box" on most operating systems. "
[17:07] <xro1> zykotick9, lspci -v | grep -i rocoh does not return anything....
[17:07] <Kanerix> xro1, try "ricoh" instead ;)
[17:08] <funkymonk> Kanerix: Doh!!! and so it does. Thanks I'll have a read through them and see what I can make of it. I've never compile source code before but willing to learn
[17:08] <zykotick9> xro1: ok.  seems there are several different issues with dell and sd card readers.  do you know what the sd-reader hardware is by chance?  might narrow the search.  "lspci -v" might show it, if you can try to make an educated guess as to which one...
[17:08] <xro1> zykotick9, Kanerix, not better... lspci -v --> http://dpaste.com/755634/
[17:09] <jiffe98> Kanerix: I'm running the latest 12.04 has to offer
[17:09] <Kanerix> jiffe98, I did mention to force reinstall
[17:09] <Kanerix> something got mucked up
[17:09] <AceFace> hello all!
[17:09] <Kanerix> xro1, 14:00.1 SD Host controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Device 8120 (rev 01) (prog-if 01)
[17:10] <WJC-0205> hello AceFace
[17:10] <jiffe98> Kanerix: not likely, happening on multiple machines
[17:10] <AceFace> how ya doing, WJC-0205?
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[17:10] <xro1> Kanerix, yes.. i saw it... and?
[17:10] <WJC-0205> AceFace: not much just chilling haha
[17:11] <Kanerix> xro1, I came in after the initial problem description. It looked like he was trying to help you find your SD card reader
[17:11] <Kanerix> so I was trying to help
[17:12] <xro1> Kanerix, the problem is that i cannot use my sdcard... when i insert a sdcard i get dmesg --> http://dpaste.com/755637/
[17:12] <Kanerix> oh nice... yeah that's not so good
[17:12] <Kanerix> um
[17:12] <zykotick9> xro1: i do agree with Kanerix that that "SD Host controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Device 8120" is probably your card reader.  i see issues with older ubuntu versions, (and also that even older versions worded) BUT i can't find anything current.  best of luck - hope someone else has better google-fu then me ;)
[17:13] <Kanerix> xro1, Can you pastebin "lsmod"?
[17:13] <funkymonk> Kanerix: I downloaded the files and looked at readme.txt which simply had one line pointing to http://www.analog.cx/docs/Readme.html I dont see any mention about compiling.
[17:14] <xro1> Kanerix, lsmod --> http://dpaste.com/755639/
[17:14] <usr13> xro1: What version of Ubuntu?
[17:14] <Kanerix> funkymonk, is there a file in the source tarball labelled something like "INSTALL" or so on?
[17:14] <xro1> usr13, 12.04
[17:15] <zykotick9> !info analog | funkymonk why not use the one in repository?
[17:15] <Kanerix> damnation
[17:16] <Kanerix> I'm not sure if my last message went through
[17:16] <Kanerix> > xro1, modprobe sdhci-pci
[17:17] <zykotick9> funkymonk: using compiled software for packages in the repository can lead to sadness... just sayin'
[17:18] <usr13> xro1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/660088 #Scroll to bottom, read last 3 posts.
[17:18] <xro1> Kanerix, does not change anything
[17:18] <Kanerix> xro1, well, there you go. Looks like it's a bug
[17:18] <funkymonk> Kanerix: I tried searching for it from the "Ubuntu Software Centre" and it didn't come up but I've found it now.
[17:18] <wcchandler> how can I run an app from unity with sudo rights?
[17:18] <zykotick9> xro1: that's a bug for 10.04
[17:19] <usr13> wcchandler: What?
[17:19] <NoVoteLoss> wchandler why not use terminal...
[17:19] <wcchandler> NoVoteLoss: quicker from unity
[17:19] <Kanerix> apparently it isn't
[17:19] <NoVoteLoss> lol
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> wcchandler: make a nw launcher but prefix the Exec= command with gksudo
[17:20] <NoVoteLoss> yay action to the rescue
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> wcchandler: I have the same on my laptop
[17:21] <wcchandler> ActionParsnip: yeah, gets frustrating with wireshark and putty
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> wcchandler: lets me run my fullupgrade script via GUI, also uses notify-osd to show progress :)
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> wcchandler: why run putty with gksudo?
[17:21] <wcchandler> ActionParsnip: you're special then :P
[17:21] <wcchandler> ActionParsnip: access to serial device
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> wcchandler: If I was home I could pastebin it for you
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> wcchandler: ahhhh, makes sense
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> wcchandler: no group you can add your user to to get access?
[17:22] <wcchandler> yeah, POS laptops never have onboard serial so I always wonder if it's a problem with my laptop, the docking thingy or the fact I didn't go in with sudo rights
[17:23] <brahmana> zykotick9: ping
[17:23] <wcchandler> ActionParsnip: haven't researched enough...  I was hoping it'd be easier to just gksudo putty from unity
[17:23] <xro1> Kanerix, usr13, zykotick9, ok it works.... i had to create a config file in /etc/modeprobe.d/sdhci-pci.conf then reload the module....
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> wcchandler: if it works then why not ;)
[17:23] <zykotick9> xro1: nice
[17:23] <Kanerix> xro1, sweet!
[17:23] <resno> mzcl-mn: what was the fix?
[17:23] <wa33lock> ok
[17:23] <Kanerix> Yeah module wasn't loaded
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> wcchandler: could check the ownerships etc of the block device, maybe they aren't root:root
[17:23] <resno> wcchandler: ?
[17:24] <wcchandler> resno: ha
[17:24] <brahmana> zykotick9: Remember my question about  OS stopping/crashing on the only disk attached becoming not available?
[17:24] <resno> wcchandler: fancy seeing you here
[17:24] <wcchandler> resno: I had the exact sentence typed out
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> xro1: to make the module load, you can add it in /etc/modules
[17:24] <brahmana> zykotick9: I got disconnected before I could respond to your answer (power cut)
[17:24] <resno> wcchandler: having video card issues :(
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> xro1: if it already loads you are fine :)
[17:24] <wcchandler> resno: you are?
[17:24] <zykotick9> xro1: thanks for bringing the solution to the channels attention - nice to see that, doesn't happen enough
[17:25] <brahmana> zykotick9: Will there be any traces of the crash? in any of the system logs?
[17:25] <mzcl-mn> resno: perhaps trying to install amd drivers again again
[17:25] <resno> wcchandler: yea, seems an update through everything off... fun fun
[17:25] <resno> mzcl-mn: ill give it a spin
[17:25] <xro1> ActionParsnip, yes... but i loads now... i had to create a config file -->  cat /etc/modprobe.d/sdhci-pci.conf
[17:25] <xro1> options sdhci debug_quirks=0x40
[17:25] <mzcl-mn> resno: and uninstalling them after
[17:26] <mzcl-mn> but with sudo aticonfig --uninstall
[17:26] <xro1> zykotick9, it could help help someone.... Or maybe improve the debugger skills :p
[17:26] <brahmana> zykotick9: Also would the behavior change if the disk is on a Storage Area Network, as is the case here (EBS attached to an EC2 instance on the Amazon's AWS cloud) ?
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> xro1: the name of the file is irrelevant (except the file extension), the text in the file is what matters :)
[17:27] <mzcl-mn> resno:  refresh my memory
[17:27] <Kanerix> ActionParsnip, at least he got it working =p
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> xro1: I suggest you backup that file along with your other data to make reinstalls easier
[17:27] <resno> mzcl-mn: ok, so the installer says fglrx is installed, but i cant remove fglrx using purge... should i force it now?
[17:27] <mzcl-mn> resno: yours was a ... problem
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Kanerix: indeed
[17:27] <resno> mzcl-mn: video card - and radeon 6350
[17:27] <resno> mzcl-mn: "hd" radeon 6350
[17:28] <Mike9863> I'm trying to install swftools on my server, however I get the following error when compiling from the source: http://pastebin.com/2FmKKF6U and when I try to install from a .deb I get this error: http://pastebin.com/eCDvZJzc Can anyone help me?
[17:29] <Kanerix> Mike9863, is your kernel custom-compiled?
[17:29] <Mike9863> Kanerix: I don't think so
[17:29] <Kanerix> uname -a
[17:29] <zykotick9> Mike9863: try installing libjpeg8, then try again.
[17:29] <Mike9863> Kanerix: Linux name 2.6.31-302-rs #7 SMP Thu Oct 29 22:57:03 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:29] <xro1> So bye Ubuntu guys...
[17:30] <szu> hi
[17:30] <sirius> Hello!!!
[17:30] <jasonbourne> anyone help with this message I have on bootup: cfg80211: failed to add phy80211 symlink to netdev!
[17:30] <jasonbourne> never came up before
[17:30] <sirius> italiano?
[17:30] <Mike9863> zykotick9: This is the error I get when trying to install libjpeg8 from a deb http://pastebin.com/WrdY0gey
[17:30] <zykotick9> !it | sirius
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> !it
[17:30] <mzcl-mn> resno: sorry I've made a mistake, my friend's amd is a 5800 series
[17:30] <mzcl-mn> ;(
[17:31] <zykotick9> !info libjpeg8 | Mike9863 why from deb?
[17:31] <Kanerix> Mike9863, so install multiarch-support
[17:31] <resno> mzcl-mn: i cant believe it! i ran it once with force and bam!
[17:31] <resno> mzcl-mn: all my troubles are gone
[17:31] <mzcl-mn> resno: is that so?
[17:31] <zykotick9> Mike9863: lol multiarch issue - sorry i'm out.  i have no idea how multiarch works sorry.
[17:31] <resno> mzcl-mn: i think the update reinstalled fglrx which is an issue
[17:31] <mzcl-mn> resno: those are great news
[17:31] <systest> anyone know of a mechanism to determine which release was used to originally install a system?  /etc/lsb-release only shows current and a I don't trust the kernel as an indicator for 32 vs 64bit
[17:32] <szu> so... i finaly installed linux on my pc... and i have s some problems. can some1 help me?
[17:32] <mzcl-mn> !
[17:32] <wooy> Hello, I have installed a package that has version number 2.6 in ubuntu 12.04. In the meantime there is new version 2.7 available for installation from source file. How can i update the package with the new version?
[17:32] <mzcl-mn> resno: u forced uninstall of amd drivers correct?
[17:32] <jasonbourne> wooy = try this: apt-get update
[17:32] <zykotick9> wooy: generally a bad idea to got out of repository for updates... just sayin'
[17:33] <zykotick9> !latest | wooy
[17:33] <wooy> jasonbourne, i did, for package version there is only 2.6
[17:33] <szu> so first of all... everything is crashing... midori, irc etc etc
[17:33] <werder> wooy: there might be a ppa for it
[17:33] <Kanerix> zykotick9, I think he's on non-standard kernel or non-standard hardware
[17:33] <jasonbourne> ok wooy....just thought you may have not tried that yet...
[17:33] <olskolirc> wooy what program would you like to uninstall sudo apt-get remove packagename and compile from source?
[17:33] <zykotick9> Kanerix: there's some amd64/something else for sure ;)
[17:33] <szu> any1?
[17:33] <Kanerix> aye, that's why I'm curious as to what uname says
[17:34] <Kanerix> I've had some experience with cross-compiling on non-standard architectures
[17:34] <jasonbourne> anyone help with this error msg I have on bootup: cfg80211: failed to add phy80211 symlink to netdev!
[17:34] <wooy> olskolirc, its ykclient. If I try to uninstall the package, other packages are uninstall with it
[17:35] <wooy> werder, how can i find out the PPA?
[17:35] <szu> guys...
[17:35] <zykotick9> !ppa | wooy
[17:35] <Kanerix> jasonbourne, reload your wifi module driver
[17:36] <WarOfTheNerd> PPAs are potentially dangerous too
[17:36] <werder> szu: what's your question?
[17:36] <WarOfTheNerd> make sure you know who makes the packages
[17:36] <olskolirc> core system package wooy?  usually other software will install and uninstall with whatever package you are trying to manage.  If you uninstall say, kate, and you are on kubuntu, then you will uninstall the whole kubuntu system.  It just depends.
[17:36] <WarOfTheNerd> as they could have malware for all you know
[17:36] <resno> mzcl-mn: no, forced install of the driver
[17:36] <jasonbourne> Kanerix, can u help with the command to do that??
[17:36] <ansgar_> #kassiopeia1
[17:36] <resno> mzcl-mn: removed fglrx and then force installed the amd catalyst drivers
[17:37] <szu> werder so first of all why is everything crashing?
[17:37] <Kanerix> jasonbourne, depends on what your wifi card is and what driver you need to reload. Can you pastebin lsmod?
[17:37] <wooy> olskolirc, no its just yubikey client. The other dependant package is PAM module based on yubikey. I just need to make hot swap, i dont want all the other packages to be uninstalled with it.
[17:37] <mzcl-mn> resno:
[17:37] <szu> just irc fb messenger and i feel like playing dota with 1k ping
[17:37] <werder> szu: what's crashing? applications? or whole desktop? or is the computer freezing?
[17:37] <Penguincsc> I need help with configuring TWinView on an nVidia Geforce 210
[17:37] <jasonbourne> Kanerix: ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.2.2kmprq
[17:38] <mzcl-mn> resno: you weren't even able to log into your x were you?
[17:38] <juicy> hi, I was wondering how I could install ubuntu on my USB and boot from it (not as a livesession, but an actual install)
[17:38] <szu> apps, for example smuxi had crashed for like 5-6 times in that conversationn
[17:38] <resno> mzcl-mn: i could only once through recovery, after issuing startx
[17:38] <Kanerix> jasonbourne, excellent. So try this: "modprobe -r ipw2200" then "modprobe ipw2200" and see what dmesg says
[17:38] <olskolirc> I want to add a ppa repository where is the link for my sources.list
[17:38] <zykotick9> juicy: with 12.04 just install with it plugged in and select it as the HD.  be sure grub is installed to the proper USB (and not your HD)!
[17:39] <Penguincsc> I have a Samsung 932B set to 10280x1024 and a 26 inch LCD TV
[17:39] <mzcl-mn> resno: do you know when these issues appeared?
[17:39] <Dan39> when i do apt-get upgrade it keeps saying deluge pacakages have been kept back. i dont see in selections anything on hold, no idea why they are held back
[17:39] <jasonbourne> Kanerix: thanks!! will be back shortly...
[17:39] <Kanerix> I also wonder if it's having trouble because of the wifi firmware. I know the intel drivers are a bit picky about that
[17:39] <firas> How does update-manager update ubuntu??? (i mean does it use sources.list?????)
[17:39] <zykotick9> Dan39: use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:39] <xangua> juicy: like you would do a normal install,  but select the usb
[17:39] <resno> mzcl-mn: ya, following the most recent update for ubuntu 12.01, like friday
[17:39] <werder> olskolirc: "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:somthing/something"
[17:39] <resno> mzcl-mn: err, 12.04
[17:39] <xangua> !usb | also see juicy
[17:39] <Dan39> hmm
[17:39] <Dan39> zykotick9: why would that be needed...
[17:40] <juicy> xangua: thats for installing FROM a usb, not to one
[17:40] <wooy> there is a ppa with latest version, thx you guys
[17:40] <resno> mzcl-mn: in it was a kernel update, thats why i rebooted and found it in disarray
[17:40] <juicy> xangua: and can I have the install files on my usb, and then install to the USB
[17:40] <juicy> ?
[17:40] <mzcl-mn> resno: can you grep some of your syslogs? of that time?
[17:40] <Dan39> The following NEW packages will be installed: indicator-application libappindicator1 libappindicator3-1 libindicator3-7 libindicator7 python-appindicator
[17:40] <zykotick9> Dan39: dist-upgrade can install NEW software or remove required stuff, "upgrade" can't.  teh gui updatemanager does a dist-upgrade equivilant all the time.
[17:40] <olskolirc> oic werder not just a line
[17:40] <Seryth> Is it just me, or are the Ubuntu servers running slow? Just ran dist-upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04, taking absolutely forever.... 40 - 80 kB/s
[17:40] <Dan39> appindicator :|
[17:40] <Dan39> didnt know that was needed by deluge
[17:41] <xangua> juicy: like i told you, again, just do a normal install but in the usb, and also you did not read the factoid that clearly mention Persistent install
[17:41] <rgms> Hi. Is apparmor in enforcing mode by default in Ubuntu/Ubuntu Server?
[17:41] <rizzylt> I am having an issue with Ubuntu 12.04. When my computer suspends after being idle and I go to wake it up I login and everything I had open before is gone and have to restart anything that I was working on before. Any Ideas?
[17:41] <resno> mzcl-mn: yea, you want "syslogs" themselves
[17:41] <Dan39> zykotick9: so when new dependencies are added to a package, the only way to upgrade backage is with dist-upgrade?
[17:41] <zykotick9> Dan39: yup.  "new dependencies"
[17:42] <firas> How does update-manager update ubuntu??? (i mean does it use sources.list?????)
[17:42] <mzcl-mn> resno: do u recall at which time of day in that particular friday...?
[17:42] <zykotick9> firas: yes.  they're all frontends to apt ;)
[17:42] <werder> szu: sorry I don't have any experience with smuxi. try running it from a terminal to see what the error output is.
[17:43] <resno> im not exactly sure, but im sure i might be able to find it. i rebooted afterthe update and found things broken
[17:43] <Dan39> hmm gotta love these segfaults :|
[17:43] <szu> werder: thx, ill just try the windows method;) uninstall and try another one client
[17:43]  * Dan39 grrrss at kubuntu devs
[17:43] <firas> zyjotick9: but when you update ubuntu, it doesn't just install new versions of programs, it also installs new package
[17:43] <zykotick9> !tab > firas
[17:43] <szu> whats the best one on ubuntu?
[17:43] <werder> szu: ok
[17:44] <firas> !tab
[17:44] <sixpack> hey all I am wondering about the difference between the firefox you get from mozilla and the firefox from repositories
[17:44] <zykotick9> firas: the gui does an "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" which will upgrade EVERYTHING possible
[17:44] <resno> mzcl-mn: do i have to unzip old files, or can i view them from terminal?
[17:44] <werder> werder: szu: what exactly does smuxi do?
[17:44] <firas> zyjotick9: ok thnx
[17:45] <zykotick9> lol.  firas you're missing on my nic, use tab
[17:45] <Dan39> he types it all out every time? o_O
[17:45] <Dan39> jeez
[17:46] <szu> werder: lagging as... really lagging, for example i dont see what i write... i need to wait few sec and then he refreshes the command line
[17:46] <daniel2> i only learnt to tab recently !! perils of being an irc newbie
[17:46] <Dan39> i swear getting people to use tab completion in shells is like the 1st big thing, and its pulling teeth to get them to keep using it, and they wonder why their path names they type out dont work
[17:47] <oCean> Dan39: please keep the non-support chatter to a minimum, #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat/discussion
[17:47] <werder> szu: sorry, I meant what is the application supposed to do? I have no knowledge of smuxi
[17:47] <daniel2> although i did know tab completion in the shell
[17:47] <Dan39> oCean: if there was epic amounts of conversation going on im sure i would
[17:47] <szu> werder: smuxi is IRC client
[17:47] <zykotick9> i did just discover irssi will complete path names /etc/apm/resume.d/ (with multitab support) ;)
[17:48] <werder> szu: natch. probably should have realized that.
[17:48] <oCean> Dan39: no, you will always. This channel is just for tech support. Period
[17:48] <Dan39> fine
[17:48] <garodimb> please can anyone help to to connect my 2g mobile to ubuntu to use internet?
[17:48] <werder> szu: xchat is fine, I am using irssi right now. it works well.
[17:48] <szu> ok thanks ill check it out
[17:48] <mzcl-mn> resno: use something like cat /var/log/syslog.1 | grep -i 'yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm' > file_of_my_naming.log (replace y, m, d, h, m) where apropriate
[17:50] <ddn> Hi pals, is there any Lightscribe similar program to print CD labels with laser?
[17:50] <dantix> what is the way to install all needed to get a gnome desktop fully functional without needs to install each package individually?
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> dantix  what function do you lack or need?
[17:51] <mzcl-mn> resno: sorry it is something like cat /var/log/syslog.1 | grep -i 'Jun  1 hh:m' > file_of_bla_blah.log and paste it at paste.ubuntu.com
[17:51] <dantix> I've just installed a new box, but forgott to check X server on installer
[17:51] <llutz> ddn: http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadsection/linux/index.aspx
[17:51] <dantix> so I want to add gnome
[17:52] <dantix> sure it needs X server o surely other packages
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> dantix  try ubuntu-desktop
[17:52] <zykotick9> llutz: i'm guessing they mean for sticker style lables (my interpretation)
[17:52] <dantix> MonkeyDust: thanks
[17:52] <mzcl-mn> resno: point to the nearest time
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> ddn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LightScribe
[17:52] <werder> dantix: if you want only gnome don't install ubuntu-desktop
[17:52] <mzcl-mn> resno: i will paste mine
[17:52] <werder> dantix: that will give you Unity
[17:53] <thehumanerror> Quick question: My Update Manager is not doing anything any more
[17:53] <ddn> ActionParsnip: checking ty
[17:53] <llutz> zykotick9: hmm, why "lightscribe like" then, which is something complete differnt
[17:53] <thehumanerror> no errors, just doesn't report updates
[17:53] <dantix> werder: what is my option if son't want unity?
[17:53] <thehumanerror> it checks repos, as I can see when I press Update
[17:53] <zykotick9> llutz: ? don't ask me!  ;)
[17:53] <xangua> thehumanerror: because your system it's already updatet¿¿
[17:53] <thehumanerror> I wish
[17:53] <garodimb> hi j2shar
[17:53] <KornKageAcer> Is there any guide on how to decode TETRA with rtl-sdr ?
[17:53] <thehumanerror> every time I notice a suspicious lack of updates I apt-get update && upgrade
[17:53] <thehumanerror> but nothing
[17:53] <thehumanerror> I mean, but  it works
[17:54] <thehumanerror> and I get updates, because there was some
[17:54] <dantix> I'll not use unity, I'll have remote access usin NX to the box
[17:54] <thehumanerror> were*
[17:54] <thebwt>  how does one go about compiling libxxx:i386 on a x64 machine?
[17:54] <FloodBot1> thehumanerror: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:54] <werder> dantix: well Ubuntu has GNOME in the repositories now
[17:54] <xangua> !enter | thehumanerror
[17:54] <xangua>  thehumanerror: then could you elaborate¿.....suspicious huh
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get update
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: use a pastebin
[17:55] <thehumanerror> okay, so normal use case of Update Manager, it occasionally is supposed to alert you to updates, it hasn't since around the time of latest release
[17:55] <gr33n7007h> Does anybody know how to watch live tv [haupppauge winTV nova-t dvb] through mplayer??
[17:55] <thehumanerror> and I can check for updates with apt-get update
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> dantix  unity is there by default, but you can choose to not use it, select something else in the login menu
[17:55] <thehumanerror> sure
[17:55] <resno> mzcl-mn: actually less is better, becuase the file is now gz'ed :)
[17:56] <werder> dantix: if you are remoting and still want X I would suggest a window manager. Did you do a minimal install?
[17:56] <dantix> werder: yes, just installed ssh
[17:57] <melow01> When compiling & building source code on Ubuntu, where should the program be stored in the directory tree? /usr/bin/ ?
[17:57] <werder> dantix: well then if you want X you should probably install a light windowmanager like fluxbox or openbox or spectrwm. Some might say you shouldn't use X for a remote session but if you wnat it use it.
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> melow01: anywhere in $PATH will do
[17:58] <thehumanerror> Here is the output of my apt-get update
[17:58] <thehumanerror> http://pastebin.com/dADCCcwK
[17:58] <melow01> ActionParsnip, thanks
[17:58] <thehumanerror> it looks completely fine to me
[17:58] <dantix> werder: fine, thanks
[17:58] <thehumanerror> my system updates fine with apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: is there any output obout GPG keys or such?
[17:58] <thehumanerror> no
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: ok, run:  sudo apt-get upgrade    what is output?
[17:59] <thehumanerror> that's why I was thinking it was an Update Manager problem
[17:59] <thehumanerror> probably nothing, I upgraded this morning
[17:59] <thehumanerror> whoa, actually, I have a tonne of Mono updates
[17:59] <thehumanerror> which Update Manager doesn't know anything about
[18:00] <thehumanerror> 29 package upgrades
[18:00] <michael__> can somebody please explain to me why the Bash shell does not properly work in Ubuntu and how I can fix it
[18:00] <llutz> !details | michael__
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> michael__: what is the issue?
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> michael__: works properly here
[18:00] <jasonbourne> Kanerix: mesg no longer appears on bootup but still shows up in dmesg....
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: get updated there then, may help
[18:01] <michael__> I am using Bash Shell Programming book to learn the bash shell and when I get to using case, POSSIX, or anything from chapter 6 on I get errors and blank responses. There are issues with the Bash Shell in Ubuntu 11.04
[18:02] <sipior> michael__: examples would be useful.
[18:02] <jasonbourne> michael: why not upgrade to 12.04LTS...
[18:02] <llutz> michael__: file a bug report, just make sure it contains a bit more useful info than your lines here
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> michael__: can you pastebin one of your scripts..
[18:02] <Seryth> I just tried to upgrade to 12.04 with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, and it downloaded a load of stuff, but at the end it was giving me some errors about usbmuxd?
[18:03] <jasonbourne> Seryth: check /var/log/dmesg file for specifics...
[18:03] <thehumanerror> I've done this before, I don't think it will help, but I will apply the updates
[18:03] <ddn> ActionParsnip: have you tried it?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> ddn: tried what?
[18:03] <Coringa> +i coringa
[18:03] <Coringa> hy
[18:04] <esak> i install ATI VGA . but ubuntu yet not detected it . why ?
[18:04] <Seryth> jasonbourne: Just opened it up, I've got no idea what it's on about...
[18:04] <thehumanerror> I don't know if this is a clue, but the Cog menu in the top right hand corner always says "Updates Available..."
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> esak: did you set the new card as the primary display in BIOS?
[18:04] <jasonbourne> Seryth: who do you mean by: " I've got no idea what it's on about..."
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: well they are coming down already so that doesn't matter now :)
[18:05] <jasonbourne> do you mean you don't know where  to look??
[18:05] <Seryth> jasonbourne: No, I mean the file /var/log/dmesg doesn't make sense to me.
[18:05] <thehumanerror> I know, but I would like to be notified of updates by the Update Manager
[18:05] <thehumanerror> and then easily use it to perform updates
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: maybe getting these latest updates this way will make it ok
[18:05] <esak> no ActionParsnip , how do it ?
[18:06] <thehumanerror> I doubt it, have done plenty of updates
[18:06] <jasonbourne> Seryth: copy it to your editor and search for the error in there...it may reveal more info about what's going on...
[18:06] <michael__> #!/bin/dash
[18:06] <michael__> #: Date		: 2012-05-31
[18:06] <michael__> #: Script	: to_upper, Convert First Character of $1 to Uppercase
[18:06] <michael__> #: Description	: Listing 7-4
[18:06] <michael__> to_upper()
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> esak: it varies wildly, you'll need your manual or just flick around the settings
[18:06] <michael__>     case $1 in
[18:06] <michael__>         [a]*) _UPR=A ;; [b]*) _UPR=B ;; [c]*) _UPR=C ;; [d]*) _UPR=D ;;
[18:06] <FloodBot1> michael__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> michael__: again, PASTEBIN the file...
[18:06] <Seryth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025435/ jasonbourne thats' the whole file.
[18:06] <ddn> ActionParsnip: lightscribe
[18:06] <thebwt>  how does one go about compiling libxxx:i386 deb packages on a x64 machine?
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> ddn: I've not burned any media for years now
[18:07] <llutz> michael__: line 1 (shebang) <michael__> #!/bin/dash    <- why do you blame bash for your faults?
[18:07] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, Why not ?
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: I have a fileserver accessibe from the web, so anything I need I can access
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> llutz: nice
[18:07] <esak> ActionParsnip plz say simple. waht do now ?
[18:07] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, Which version of ubuntu do you use ?
[18:07] <jasonbourne> Seryth: copy it to your text editor on your machine and do search for "usbmuxd"
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: on fileserver, Precise, on laptop, Quantal
[18:08] <Seryth> jasonbourne: Already done so, came up blank.
[18:08] <jasonbourne> Seryth: oh ok...
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> esak: Reborg and you want to enter setup (F2 and DEL are common keys)
[18:08] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, Do you like Unity or do you think it was a bad move by canonical ?
[18:08] <jasonbourne> Seryth: it has to be there....everything is recorded there...
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: its ok. I use about 6 apps so it's fine. I flat between Unity2D and LXDE
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: Unity is also optional, so you don't have to use it
[18:09] <moohamud> moin.
[18:09] <moohamud> i want to start a gui program from the command line/cron job, AND want to specify the particular gnome workspace.
[18:10] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, I might migrate to Linux Mint because I have have to many problems with Ubuntu Linux precise lately
[18:10] <thehumanerror> Update Manager still shows "Updates Available..." even though there are none
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: could try using XFCE, or LXDE. There are lots of desktops to try
[18:10] <jasonbourne> Seryth: checking your pastebin now...
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: click it and click check now, it wil show none
[18:10] <Seryth> jasonbourne: I couldn't see it...
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> Quantum_Ion  i'm currently on ubuntu cinnamon, very neat and smooth
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> michael__: try making the script use bash instead of dash...
[18:11] <esak> ActionParsnip  ok after this. what do after this ?
[18:11] <stones_> Hey guys. I just installed ubuntu and tried loading up a NETFLIX movie via the browser it says I havent met the requirments to watch a movie. I even tried downloading chrome no go. Could someone tell me a fix for this?
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> esak: you'll need your manual or use cursors to flick around and how to set the setting
[18:11] <Quantum_Ion> MonkeyDust, Yeah I was just over at distrowatch.org and I saw Linux Mint was on the top of the charts it surpassed Ubuntu
[18:11] <michael__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025442/
[18:11] <jondoe> what's the proper package manager to usewhen downloading python libraries on ubuntu 12.04?
[18:11] <llutz> michael__: line 1 (shebang) <michael__> #!/bin/dash    <- why do you blame bash for your faults?
[18:12] <jondoe> when using pip the packages aren't found by python
[18:12] <thehumanerror> I am sure it will show nothing
[18:12] <thehumanerror> :)
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> jondoe: any you like
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> Quantum_Ion  that's just the number of hits in search engines, blogs etc, not the number of installations
[18:12] <michael__> it does not work when the shebang has bash either I changed it to test but it does not work with bash either
[18:12] <jondoe> how come python doesn't find stuff downloaded with pip?
[18:12] <thehumanerror> closed it, it still says "Updates Available..."
[18:12] <stones_> Could someone please help me with getting Netflix working in Ubuntu? Is this possible?
[18:12] <xangua> stones_: nexflix does not support linux
[18:12] <DJones> stones_: The last thing I heard was that netflix wasn't compatible with Linux http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_watch_Netflix_(Watch_Instantly)_in_Linux however there may be some hints on this link that may help
[18:12] <stones_> Damn.
[18:12] <zykotick9> stones_: no netflix for gnu/linux :(  VM windows if you REALLY want it.
[18:13] <stones_> So there is no way to make this work?
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> !find netflix
[18:13] <Quantum_Ion> MonkeyDust, It looks like it is very similar to Ubuntu is this true ?
[18:13] <stones_> that is teh sucks.
[18:13] <stones_> I didnt realize that im an idiot
[18:13] <SubCool> could someone help me with something stupid-
[18:13] <stones_> should of remembered it uses silver light
[18:13] <stones_> I thought someone would come up wit some other way of doing it
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> Quantum_Ion  yes, in that, it uses the ubuntu repos, but that's about it
[18:13] <stones_> this laptop is dedicated to my projector
[18:13] <stones_> so its a must...... shit
[18:14] <SubCool> i downloaded too much to the computer, and now i cant get kubuntu to startx - there is a keyboard error suggesting my hard disk is full. I have delted a few things, but it still gives me the same error.. could someone assist?
[18:14] <xangua> !language | stones_
[18:14] <Quantum_Ion> MonkeyDust, Is Cinnamon very similiar to Gnome 2 ?
[18:14] <jondoe> SubCool, still got your ubuntu cd/usb stick?
[18:14] <KornKageAcer> any1 know how to solve this problem?: http://pastebin.com/TcYKKkvC  it was running fine 2days ago
[18:14] <stones_> sorry xangua
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> Quantum_Ion  mmmmyes, sort of
[18:14] <SubCool> jondoe, ya - kinda..
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> Quantum_Ion  it looks like gnome2 + gnome-shell
[18:15] <thehumanerror> Okay, just restarted Update Manager and chcked and closed it
[18:15] <Quantum_Ion> MonkeyDust, Can you make a desktop launcher from the desktop in Cinnamon by right clicking ?
[18:15] <NielsMkn> hey guys
[18:15] <jondoe> SubCool, you should be able to boot from it, into a recovery console
[18:15] <thehumanerror> the cog menu still shows updates available, but there are none, and I expect that it won't check for updates
[18:15] <SubCool> jondoe, well i have konsole.. im in it now-
[18:15] <jondoe> and there do the command "rm somerandomlargefile.avi"
[18:15] <NielsMkn> How do i make games for ubuntu? I mean is there a good game engine for linux?
[18:15] <SubCool> jondoe, done that already- thats my problem
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> Quantum_Ion  yes, easily
[18:15] <jondoe> NielsMkn, Love is pretty cool and easy
[18:16] <Quantum_Ion> NielsMkn, First become professional at C++ programming
[18:16] <jondoe> SubCool, what happens?
[18:16] <jondoe> ,
[18:16] <NielsMkn> can't I use java?
[18:16] <basus> does anyone know what commands the Ubuntu network applet runs behind-the-scenes?
[18:16] <SubCool> jondoe, same error-
[18:16] <Quantum_Ion> NielsMkn, Yes you can
[18:16] <jondoe> SubCool, try run df
[18:16] <SubCool> let me see if my remote ssh will let me see the error
[18:16] <davi> fotal
[18:16] <davi> dsa
[18:16] <jondoe> linux usuallly doesn't mind having 0 bytes of free harddrive
[18:17] <davi> jes
[18:17] <SubCool> jondoe, has always screwed me..
[18:17] <jondoe> it might be something else, do less +G /var/log/syslog
[18:17] <jondoe> +G is start from bottom
[18:17] <NielsMkn> Quantum_Ion, so how do I do it? I mean is there a game engine which supports coding in java?
[18:17] <SubCool> jondoe, after my rm largefile.rpm - i still have 100% use
[18:17] <NielsMkn> jondoe, I have to learn lua for that it seems. :(
[18:17] <jasonbourne> Seryth: you still here??
[18:17] <jondoe> NielsMkn, Lua is super easy
[18:17] <Seryth> jasonbourne: I am
[18:18] <davi> ?
[18:18] <davi> what
[18:18] <jondoe> SubCool, could be because the file is in use
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> basus: ps -ef | grep net     may show you
[18:18] <jondoe> is that possible?
[18:18] <oCean> davi: do you have a support question?
[18:18] <jondoe> remove moar stuff
[18:18] <jasonbourne> Seryth: I checked the log also but can't find any reference to that usbmuxd either....sorry....
[18:18] <davi> no
[18:18] <davi> ican speak
[18:18] <davi> english
[18:18] <oCean> davi: this channel is for support only, /join #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[18:18] <jondoe> apt-get autoclean removes all the cache
[18:18] <jasonbourne> Seryth: system otherwise working ok??
[18:19] <Jordan_U> michael__: Try asking for help in #bash, but please when you do don't assume that what you're seeing is a bug in bash. Even though that example may come from a book I would say that it's not very well written from at least a clarity standpoint and the bug may well be in the script itself.
[18:19] <davi> blo
[18:19] <Seryth> jasonbourne: Yeah, system is fine, but it's still on 11.10...
[18:19] <SubCool> jondoe - i've removed more stuff... lol...
[18:19] <jasonbourne> Seryth: wouldn't worry about it too much...unless your on a network not your own...
[18:19] <basus> ActionParsnip: to be more precise, I want to know what happens I use it to connect to a network
[18:19] <NielsMkn> jondoe, hmm. Is it useful for other things as well?
[18:19] <SubCool> and i've cleared the cache and autoremove programs..
[18:19] <NielsMkn> I mean where else can I use lua?
[18:20] <jondoe> SubCool, still 100%?
[18:20] <jasonbourne> Seryth: I.e.:  at work or public network
[18:20] <Seryth> jasonbourne: Nope, my own network
[18:20] <basus> ActionParsnip: so there's a wired network entry it sees called "Auto eth0" and I want to know what it does when I select that network
[18:20] <jondoe> NielsMkn, hmm primarily games, most large moddable games use lua for writing modules
[18:20] <jondoe> such as WoW and what not
[18:20] <NielsMkn> oh nice :)
[18:20] <SubCool> jondoe, ya- thats the thing. im deleting more but- nothigns happening. i think my trash is full or something
[18:20] <jondoe> but java is fine if you know that better
[18:20] <jasonbourne> Seryth: try googling it and see what you get...
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> isnt the DOOM engine opensource, these days?
[18:21] <Quantum_Ion> NielsMkn, You check out the Clanlib http://clanlib.org/wiki/Main_Page and the SDL projects http://www.libsdl.org, they are C/C++ SDK used to make games/game engines on Linux
[18:21] <jondoe> SubCool, ah, lemme check where the cache is
[18:21] <SubCool> jondoe, can u make that less commond more page view and less scrolling line view?
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> basus: it will probably use ifup and dhclient3
[18:21] <jondoe> do rm -rf /home/you/.local/share/Trash/*
[18:21] <Seryth> jasonbourne: Aite.
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> jondoe: why use force?
[18:22] <jondoe> isn't that needed for folders or something
[18:22] <jondoe> probably not necessary
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> jondoe: just -r is needed for folders.
[18:22] <jasonbourne> Seryth: can you post here the exact error message if it's small??
[18:22] <jondoe> SubCool, page up and down does pages
[18:22] <jondoe> and arrows do lines
[18:23] <nimrod10_> any of you experiencing choppy flash player in 12.04 ?
[18:23] <nimrod10_> it happened after the last update
[18:23] <jondoe> SubCool, also have a look at /var/log/boot.log
[18:23] <Seryth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025466/ jasonbourne that was the first 404 error.
[18:23] <xangua> nimrod10_: flash sucks in linux in general
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> nimrod10_: great flash here, what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[18:23] <jasonbourne> ok
[18:24] <Quantum_Ion> NielsMkn, You can use the gimp for graphics and audacity to make sounds and lmms to make videogame music on Ubuntu Linux
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> nimrod10_: use a pastebin to host the output
[18:24] <nimrod10_> ActionParsnip, whas going to ask just that :)
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: lmms is lots of fun
[18:24] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, Yeah I am actually making a beat on lmms right now
[18:24] <bubbly> is the hardy version of enlightement stand-alone
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> nimrod10_: someting like http://pastie.org will do :)
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> bubbly: hardy isn't supported on the desktop now
[18:25] <NielsMkn> wow thanks a ton Quantum_Ion! :D
[18:25] <Quantum_Ion> NielsMkn, np
[18:25] <jasonbourne> Seryth: I would submit that to Ubuntu support and see if it's a known issue or if they have a workaround for it...looks specific to Ubuntu...
[18:25] <nimrod10_> ActionParsnip, flash issues pastebin : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025469/
[18:26] <Seryth> jasonbourne: I was sort of hoping that this *would* be Ubuntu support :S
[18:26] <jasonbourne> Seryth: it is but I think this is something they need to look at...
[18:26] <Quantum_Ion> NielsMkn, I forgot to mention you can make your 3D characters/animations in Blender http://www.blender.org it's a little easier to use nowadays
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> nimrod10_: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer     then enable the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin. This will give 64bit flash for your 64bit OS
[18:27] <Seryth> jasonbourne: So you mean submit it on the forums?
[18:27] <jasonbourne> Seryth: yes....
[18:27] <nimrod10_> ActionParsnip, trying it now ...
[18:27] <Seryth> Arite.
[18:27] <NielsMkn> ah yeah I have been using blender for time now, its awesome :)
[18:27] <Seryth> jasonbourne: Doint it now :)
[18:27] <Seryth> NielsMkn: You're a Blenderhead too?!
[18:27] <jasonbourne> Seryth: or searh the boards for that specific error message...
[18:28] <Seryth> NielsMkn: Do you know about #blender and #blenderchat ?
[18:28] <Seryth> jasonbourne: Yeah
[18:28] <jasonbourne> Seryth: I don't think it's your machine...
[18:28] <Seryth> jasonbourne: Good good
[18:28] <Seryth> :)
[18:28] <Quantum_Ion> NielsMkn, You should start a project outlining these tools on Ubuntu Linux to make videogames, Clanlib/SDL, Blender, LMMS, GIMP and Audacity
[18:28] <NielsMkn> Seryth, sort of. I have been to #blender a lot of times :D
[18:29] <Seryth> NielsMkn: Aah :)
[18:29] <designbybeck> I have a Ubuntu install on a 8GB USBflash drive
[18:30] <NielsMkn> Quantum_Ion, I'm not sure what you mean. Do you want me to host a project on an svn hosting service or something?
[18:30] <designbybeck> it was working perfectly, but then i tried to Remastersys on it to make an ISO from it, But now it boots into safegraphics mode and will not let me do anything
[18:30] <designbybeck> Any Ideas?
[18:30] <rgms> Hi. Is apparmor in enforcing mode by default in Ubuntu/Ubuntu Server?
[18:30] <nimrod10_> ActionParsnip flash player is  still choppy :(
[18:30] <Quantum_Ion> NielsMkn, Or write a book using all those to create videogames on Ubuntu Linux I am sure you would sell a lot of copies
[18:31] <Seryth> jasonbourne: I'm running the command again with "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-missing"
[18:31] <nimrod10_> rgms,  run apparmor_status
[18:31] <jondoe> SubCool, how's it going?
[18:31] <SubCool> jondoe, ok - i've deleted plenty.... it still says there is 100% in use
[18:31] <rgms> actually I'm not running ubuntu on any system at the moment
[18:31] <jondoe> hmm
[18:32] <jondoe> have you checked df?
[18:32] <SubCool> jondoe, has to be the trash file
[18:32] <SubCool> ya
[18:32] <nimrod10_> any of you experiencing choppy flash player in 12.04 ?
[18:32] <jondoe> but rm shouldn't move things to the trash
[18:32] <jondoe> but empty the trash
[18:32] <jasonbourne> Seryth: hopefully that'll take care of it...
[18:32] <SubCool> where is trash?
[18:32] <jondoe> with rm -r ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[18:32] <17WAAI872> hi ther
[18:32] <Seryth> jasonbourne: It seems to be
[18:32] <jondoe> /home/youruser/.local/share/Trash/
[18:32] <17WAAI872> i've got a problem on sound
[18:33] <jasonbourne> Seryth: have to work graveyard shift...good luck...have to catch some zzz's before then...
[18:33] <SubCool> jondoe is there a way to update the space etc? - df says the same
[18:33] <Seryth> jasonbourne: Aah sure, what's your job? Have a nice sleep, and thanks for the help! :)
[18:33] <gfarmer> join #ubuntu-beginners
[18:33] <jondoe> hmmm
[18:33] <jondoe> very weird
[18:33] <jasonbourne> glorified Unix system babysitter
[18:33] <17WAAI872> yesterday I decreased all the sounds, i dont remember what did i do else. today sound is full but no sense
[18:33] <NielsMkn> Quantum_Ion, if I ever did wrote a book, I might give it for free. Anything for ubuntu :D
[18:33] <jasonbourne> Seryth: glorified Unix system babysitter
[18:34] <gfarmer> join #ubuntu
[18:34] <jasonbourne> Seryth: this is my last week of nites...
[18:34] <Seryth> jasonbourne: Aha! Well, grab some sleep :P
[18:34] <SubCool> gfarmer, your already here
[18:34] <jondoe> SubCool, you could try rebooting the box once, unless you've already done that
[18:34] <gfarmer> join #ubuntu-beginners
[18:34] <jasonbourne> Seryth: later...
[18:34] <Seryth> gfarmer: It's /join, not just join
[18:34] <Seryth> jasonbourne: o/ bye!
[18:34] <gfarmer> yeah, thanks
[18:34] <SubCool> jondoe, donet that, but i can do it again since i've deteled a bunhc of stuff
[18:34] <jondoe> because some files could be locked by the system
[18:34] <gfarmer> obviously need to be in ubuntu-beginners
[18:34] <amelia_> Hi there.. I've upgraded my mum's netbook from 11.10 to 12.04 and now she's intermittently getting a system error - asks to report the problem. but says the Precise dev cycle has finished, so to contact tech support :/ any idea how I can find out what this error is? I'd hate to have to wipe and go back to 11.10
[18:35] <SubCool> jondoe, well, i was doing a system update when the reboot did this, so maybe something is locked?
[18:35] <gfarmer> \join #ubuntu-beginners
[18:35] <jondoe> yeah, it should unlock on reboot
[18:35] <SubCool> ill reboot again now.. but--- :/
[18:35] <jondoe> did it die during update?
[18:35] <17WAAI872> jondoe: how can i cure my sound problem?
[18:35] <SubCool> maybe booting into usb will do something - ugh..
[18:35] <SubCool> jondoe, honestly- idk.... my mother dumb bf touched it..
[18:36] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, hmm
[18:36] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, is there a volume control somewhere in the bar on the top?
[18:36] <17WAAI872> jondoe: can u ?
[18:36] <jondoe> SubCool, definitely his fault
[18:36] <17WAAI872> jondoe: i use kubuntu
[18:37] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, maybe bottom right corner
[18:37] <jondoe> a speaker icon
[18:37] <17WAAI872> jondoe:  yes there are
[18:37] <jondoe> click that
[18:37] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, any1 knows how to set higher priority for graphics to a game running under wine?
[18:37] <17WAAI872> jondoe: I maximized everything
[18:37] <schultza> when running apt-get... i keep getting a line that looks like the following: The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required... how do i remove those packages if they are no longer required?
[18:38] <17WAAI872> jondoe:  but no sound is heard
[18:38] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, is there a checkbox that is checked on the same place?
[18:38] <xangua> schultza: if you read the complete message you'll know
[18:39] <SubCool> jondoe, ya- same thing..
[18:39] <17WAAI872> jondoe:  there are lots of things as usual, i know how to control. but the problem is beyond
[18:39]  * schultza smacks head. doh!
[18:39] <schultza> xangua, thanks.
[18:39] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, hmm
[18:39] <17WAAI872> jondoe:  do u know how to control over termnial?
[18:39] <jondoe> yeah
[18:40] <jondoe> SubCool, that's srsly weird
[18:40] <nimrod10_> how do i get an older version of adobe-flashplugin ?
[18:40] <nimrod10_> the current one gives choppy playback
[18:40] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, I could probably help you over ssh
[18:41] <SubCool> jondoe, everyting seems to be odd to me.. ugh-
[18:41] <17WAAI872> jondoe: how?
[18:41] <SubCool> jondoe, im going to reboot into a usbLive if i can find one.. hold on-
[18:41] <17WAAI872> jondoe: im new to linux, try to understand me :/
[18:41] <SubCool> i was just lableing them.
[18:42] <gr33n7007h> Does anybody know how to watch live tv [haupppauge winTV nova-t dvb] through mplayer??
[18:43] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, yeah
[18:43] <xangua> nimrod10_: well all adobe flashplugin give choppy playback....did you try disabling hardware support¿
[18:43] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, gimme two seconds
[18:43] <llutz> gr33n7007h: look at http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/MPlayer  create a channels.conf and enjoy
[18:43] <gr33n7007h> llutz, cheers I'll take a look
[18:43] <17WAAI872> jondoe: ok
[18:44] <nimrod10_> xangua, how do I do that ?
[18:45] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, try sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:45] <jondoe> after each other
[18:45] <Kinter> how do you tag a file as executable?
[18:45] <gfarmer> I'm trying to access a file on my iphone, but when I connect via usb, I'm not sure how it's being mounted
[18:45] <gfarmer> how can I check?
[18:45] <xangua> nimrod10_: in any flash video, make it full screen and select Properties (for some reason you need to make it full screen or you can't select it) and disable flash hardware acceleration
[18:46] <jondoe> Kinter, chmod +x file
[18:46] <Kinter> thanks
[18:46] <17WAAI872> jondoe: i update everytime, but not upgrade
[18:46] <xangua> gfarmer: what ubuntu version¿ what iOS version¿
[18:46] <amelia_> Anyone?
[18:46] <17WAAI872> jondoe:  already upgraded. nothing installed
[18:47] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, ok
[18:47] <Poesghost> if I was going to dual boot Arch and Ubuntu, which should I install first?
[18:47] <gr33n7007h> llutz, Thanks. That's is as exactly what I was looking for ;)
[18:48] <gfarmer> xangua 11.10 and 4.2.1 I think
[18:48] <moohamud> anyone familiar with devilspie?  http://codepad.org/uHyKo1Fw
[18:48] <moohamud> my window isn't being loaded.
[18:48] <gfarmer> It mounts and I can access it in nautilus, but it's not in /media or anything
[18:49] <nimrod10_> xangua, flash player is such an annoying piece of lock-in software ! trying your suggestion now ...
[18:51] <nimrod10_> xangua, do I need to reboot, I've taken the setting off and restarted firefox but nothing changed
[18:51] <xangua> gfarmer: ooh so there is no problem mounting¿¿ just hit Control+L in nautilus to show the location
[18:51] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, I don't know how to solve your problem :(
[18:51] <xangua> nimrod10_: then flash sucks period
[18:51] <17WAAI872> jondoe:  dddd
[18:52] <gfarmer> xangua: afc://d78e38441be....
[18:52] <gfarmer> xangua: does that sound right?
[18:52] <nimrod10_> xangua, the only problem is that waaaaaay to many of the major sites  use it (youtube, infoq ....)
[18:53] <Partyschaum> sorry, i've asked this question two hours ago but my irc client lacks a proper history… i've upgraded my virtualbox to 4.1.16 and i'm running ubuntu 10.04 in one of those boxes. how do i upgrade the virtualbox guest additions in this box to the latest version?
[18:56] <NielsMkn> later ppl
[18:57] <nimrod10_> Partyschaum, download and install them. (http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.16/)
[18:58] <Sargun-Work> Is there a way to create a wildcard apparmor policy that applies to everything
[18:58] <guest67898> when using virtual terminal, a message '[sdb] asking for drive cache data failed assuming drive cache: write through' overwrites stuff on the screen
[18:59] <Qasaur> Hey guys
[18:59] <17WAAI872> nimrod10: u know how to reset sound settings on kubuntu?
[18:59] <Qasaur> I was wondering
[18:59] <Qasaur> is it possible to use full-disk encryption
[18:59] <Qasaur> and instead of using a passphrase
[18:59] <Qasaur> can one use a private key?
[18:59] <jondoe> Qasaur, yeah, using the alternative install cd
[18:59] <jondoe> not sure about the keyfile thing
[19:00] <17WAAI872> jondoe: u know how to reset sound setts?
[19:00] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, try "ps a | grep pulseaudio"
[19:00] <jondoe> and the pulse<tab>
[19:01] <17WAAI872> jondoe: tried. nothing happened
[19:01] <Partyschaum> nimrod10_: oh, now i'm ashamed of my question… that's to easy :-) thx!
[19:01] <jondoe> hmm maybe try apt-get install pulseaudio
[19:01] <17WAAI872> jondoe: i mean nothing happened on termnial
[19:02] <jondoe> yeah
[19:02] <jondoe> try apt-get install pulseaudio it might fix your audio
[19:02] <xangua> nimrod10_: well i recently readh that only 23% of the web uses flash, and for youtube there is the hmtl5 player
[19:02] <17WAAI872> jondoe: how to run pulseaudio
[19:02] <jondoe> pulseaudio -D
[19:03] <roasted> Was there a recent system update that changed the look of the Unity bar? I just updated and rebooted and now my bar and dash are super dark (which looks great) and the Unity dash button is bright blue. I was just curious if anybody else saw that too.
[19:04] <spicyWith> I'm having some trouble attaching EBS volumes to an ubuntu instance in ec2. Anyone here have experience with that?
[19:05] <Gill`> Hiya, anyone able to give me a hand with an error I'm getting in 12.04?
[19:05] <17WAAI872> jondoe: daemon startup failed
[19:05] <xangua> roasted: sound like you changed your wallpaper for something blue
[19:05] <wassup> hi, does anyone wich commando to use if I want to move any file extension (eg *.avi) located in a disk to a folder in same disk?
[19:05] <roasted> xangua: nah, wallpaper didn't change for the last... 3 weeks?
[19:06] <SubCool> jondoe, ok, i am in with a LIveUSB - and the disc is basically full- and when i try to delete stuff, it does not allow me to- atleast with righclick, i havent tried CLI yet.. but since i have gui- is there anything i should go about doing? any certain a mount of space i should have cleared? I clearely have to severely restart these machines, but im not estup to do such a thing just yet.
[19:07] <SneakySnake> Hi
[19:07] <spicyWith> does ubuntu not allow devices being attached to /dev/sdh1?
[19:08] <majuscule> I have a fresh ubuntu install, and am getting the error "current input timing is not supported by the monitor display"
[19:08] <SneakySnake> Can I start ubuntu live cd with fbdev driver? The ati driver crashes due to a nasty hardware error that has to do with direct rendering
[19:08] <majuscule> I believe I need to change this in grub but I can't change the boot line b/c i'm blind
[19:09] <Gill`> I've got a problem with a 'system error' that comes up, but doesn't allow me to submit a bug report - I don't know much about the logs but it looks like an Xorg issue, with quite a few entries in syslog and auth.log -- anyone able to take a look?
[19:09] <bakarat> is it normal that my ubuntu system does not have an admin group? (it is not in /etc/group)
[19:09] <llutz> bakarat: it has sudo instead
[19:10] <sergeantcupcake> Hey can anyone recommend a new DE for my machine? Currently it is running the default 12.04 environment, but i believe that this environment is drastically slowing my system down.
[19:10] <bakarat> llutz, is there any reason it is still mentioned in /etc/sudoers then?
[19:10] <llutz> bakarat: idk, i saw that lately at my lubuntu-12.04. no idea what/why they changed that
[19:11] <bakarat> llutz, you mean the admin group removal is new? (it does exist in my 11.10 system, just not on my 12.04 one)
[19:12] <AngrySpam98> Hello.
[19:12] <zykotick9> llutz: debian has always used sudo group by default in, so it's one less thing for ubuntu to change.
[19:12] <AngrySpam98> Im having a problem with Ubuntu Software centre.
[19:12] <sergeantcupcake> Can anyone recommend a ubuntu-like linux derivative that is clean and stylish like ubuntu but runs on very little system resources?
[19:12] <llutz> bakarat: yes, afaik this change into sudo-group came with 12.04. i guess they move to sudo-group and have admin for historical reasons
[19:12] <sergeantcupcake> AngrySpam98: Hi! maybe i can help. what seems to be the problem?
[19:13] <llutz> zykotick9: ubuntu != debian
[19:13] <zykotick9> llutz: oh i know...
[19:13] <bakarat> llutz, k, but as I understand it, people in the "sudo" group do not have to enter their password again to use sudo?
[19:13] <AngrySpam98> sergeantcupcakeI cant install things.  I click the button labeled "install" but nothing happens, even after like 20 minutes of waiting!
[19:13] <llutz> zykotick9: they went this way, no idea why they NOW start to change back
[19:13] <AngrySpam98> sergeantcupcake: I cant install things.  I click the button labeled "install" but nothing happens, even after like 20 minutes of waiting!
[19:13] <zykotick9> bakarat: sudo has a timeout
[19:14] <sergeantcupcake> AngrySpam98: Strange. Roll creepy twilight zone music while is check to see if i can find the source of the problem.
[19:14] <zykotick9> bakarat: and every time sudo is used the timer resets (it's not counted from the first use, but the most recent).  it's 20 or 25 minutes by default.
[19:15] <sergeantcupcake> AngrySpam98: are you prompted for a password before you attempt to install anything?
[19:15] <bakarat> zykotick9, ah great, from what I gathered the timeout only applied to those in the admin group, the sudo group was exempt from entering it at all. I'm glad to be wrong :)
[19:15] <AngrySpam98> seargeantcupcakes:  I used to be, when installing worked.  But right now, no.
[19:15] <orated1> Hello! What is the minimum RAM requirement to run Ubuntu with GNOME/Unity? Is it 512MB RAM or 256MB RAM?
[19:16] <zykotick9> !requirements | orated1
[19:16] <AngrySpam98> sergeantcupcake:  I used to be, when installing worked.  But right now, no.
[19:16] <sergeantcupcake> AngrySpam98: Im afraid that all i can tell you is that you might be lacking sufficient priveleges to install anything
[19:17] <sergeantcupcake> ubottu: Thanks!
[19:17] <orated1> Thanks zykotick9
[19:17] <sergeantcupcake> ubottu: Ok but its nice to have you around anyway
[19:17] <sergeantcupcake> ubottu: :)
[19:17] <AngrySpam98> sergeantcupcake: meaning? i could install things yesterday, and i was logged onn with same profile...
[19:18] <sergeantcupcake> AngrySpam98: Try rebooting and logging in as a different user
[19:18] <AngrySpam98> sergeantcupcake: i dont have a different user :P
[19:19] <sergeantcupcake> AngrySpam98: Im afraid Im stuck bro. Sorry :( :(
[19:19] <SubCool> jondoe, u around?
[19:20] <AngrySpam98> sergeantcupcake: well, thanks anyway for trying :D
[19:20] <sergeantcupcake> AngrySpam98: You could try to go the difficult rout and install with synaptic package manager
[19:20] <AngrySpam98> eww
[19:20] <sergeantcupcake> AngrySpam98: hate it
[19:20] <Eszett> OK so
[19:20] <AngrySpam98> I have a different technique...brb(maybe)
[19:20] <Eszett> I have wine app, I minimise it
[19:20] <sergeantcupcake> AngrySpam98: Go for it!
[19:20] <Eszett> now I have no idea how to bring it back
[19:20] <wooy> hi, i am little bit confused with packages (in general) and installing from source (./configure; make; make install). Which is better? And when im installing from source, what steps should i do to make it right (i.e. copy it to "program files", add it to path etc.).
[19:20] <jondoe> SubCool, yeah
[19:20] <Eszett> since wine isn't showing on unity bar at side
[19:21] <sergeantcupcake> AngrySpam98: And may the Force be with you
[19:21] <Eszett> any ideas? tried wine taskmgr, was no help
[19:21] <llutz> !compile | wooy
[19:21] <llutz> !checkinstall | wooy
[19:22] <wooy> cool thx
[19:22] <sergeantcupcake> Does anyone know if a forum exists for Jollicloud?
[19:23] <SubCool> jondoe, - cool. hey- so ya.. so far no luck with the computer and the LiveUSB. But- im back into konsole with the original computer, because the LIveUSB wouldnt let me delete stuff- SO- how do i locate my USB drive and copy something?
[19:23] <SubCool> jondoe, i know how to do a cp- but.. im more concerned with moutning the usb drive
[19:24] <jondoe> SubCool, hmm
[19:24] <sergeantcupcake> mwahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa
[19:29] <sergeantcupcake> So
[19:29] <sergeantcupcake> Anybody need some ubuntu help?
[19:29] <LjL> if they do i'm sure they'll ask
[19:30] <sergeantcupcake> LjL: im just making sure they know im here.
[19:30] <Jonii> Does ubuntu have some dedicated server for checking if Ubuntu Software Center downloads are tampered with?
[19:31] <sergeantcupcake> Jonii: They are all verified before being put online, so i dont believe such a server exists
[19:31] <LjL> Jonii: there is no dedicated server, but there is a key on your computer to verify that they were signed by the Ubuntu packagers
[19:31] <Jonii> sergeantcupcake: so if anyone has access to modify contents of software center or run malicious code on that server, that's it for Ubuntu?
[19:32] <sergeantcupcake> Jonii: I think so. If something goes wrong at the high levels ur in trouble
[19:33] <Jonii> Now that Windows Update was fooled, I begun thinking if the same thing could happen to Ubuntu, and the weak link of Ubuntu is the Software Center. One place for all the software, so if anything at all goes wrong there, Ubuntu is gone for good
[19:33] <sergeantcupcake> Is setting up my a small business to run entirely on ubuntu a good idea? Would such a setup be too complicated?
[19:34] <sergeantcupcake> Jonii: I hope they have solid security measures
[19:34] <jondoe> SubCool, hey, sorry, lost connection
[19:34] <jondoe> figured out how to mount?
[19:34] <SubCool> its ok, im doing like 5 things
[19:34] <LjL> Jonii: they were talking about this in #ubuntu-offtopic a bit earlier, you might want to join there (also considering it's not strictly speaking support)
[19:34] <SubCool> i know how to mount- just not sure about the usb
[19:34] <jondoe> yeah i'm not quite sure either
[19:35] <majuscule> I can't load grub, how can I change the monitor input timing?
[19:35] <SubCool> jondoe, there is nothing in my media directory
[19:35] <reisio> majuscule: if you can't load grub, you have bigger problems
[19:36] <jondoe> I think it's something like mount /dev/usbsomething
[19:36] <jondoe> try ls /dev/usb*
[19:36] <jondoe> and then try mount one of them
[19:37] <Zentaur> hi
[19:38] <reisio> Zentaur: hi
[19:39] <Zentaur> i need to execute the following two commands just in one. "cd /opt/upspilot" "./monitor"
[19:39] <Zentaur> is it possible?
[19:39] <Zentaur> i'm looking for a way to create a launcher
[19:39] <llutz> Zentaur: /opt/upspilot/monitor
[19:39] <nino> hello
[19:39] <Zentaur> ok thanks!
[19:40] <nino> have somebody dead space?
[19:40] <OerHeks> Zentaur, cd /opt/upspilot && ./monitor
[19:40] <Gunslinger2> hello
[19:41] <nino> have you got dead space
[19:41] <nino> ?
[19:41] <oCean> nino: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[19:41] <OerHeks> nino is that an ubuntu support question?
[19:41] <freedomrun> can I do a cronjob to send me my public ip by mail on my ubuntu server .. need that only for ssh on ip change, or the only solution is dyndns?
[19:42] <nino> what is a support question?
[19:43] <oCean> nino: this channel is for technical ubuntu issues, not chat
[19:43] <nimrod10_> xangua, i know but try to play trailers for example without flash , i can't be done on youtube
[19:43] <Zentaur> mm it doesn't work
[19:43] <nino> ok sorry
[19:43] <nino> this is yes a support question
[19:43] <nimrod10_> xangua, do you have the previous deb of adobe-flashplugin ?
[19:43] <Zentaur> i'm trying to create a launcher in alacarte
[19:44] <Aleminio> Hey guys, which linux system is the best for personal usage?
[19:44] <nino> how can i do a privet channel
[19:44] <nino> ?
[19:44] <oCean> !best | Aleminio
[19:44] <Sargun-Work> Is there any way to create apparmor policies with Default Allow?
[19:44] <oCean> nino: please /join #freenode for support on using this IRC network
[19:45] <nino> oCean you are chating
[19:45] <nino> plo
[19:46] <Aleminio> Yea oCean, i'm aware of that, but what would you suggest for a first time linux installation? I have knowledge of the commands since i've been using linux servers for a long time, but never installed one on my own computer
[19:46] <oCean> Aleminio: this channel is very specifically for Ubuntu support. You could go /join #ubuntu-offtopic and try your question there
[19:46] <aeon-ltd> Aleminio: how much experience and free time do you have?
[19:47] <xangua> Aleminio: and yet you ask that kind of question on the Ubuntu Support channel expercting.....
[19:47] <Aleminio> did not notice it's a support channel, just saw the channel name :)
[19:47] <aeon-ltd> Aleminio: also your specs aswell
[19:47] <Aleminio> will search for the off-topic one. thx.
[19:48] <Gunslinger2> id say if you wanted something that just works use ubuntu, if you want to build it from the ground up use arch linux
[19:48] <SubCool> can someone help me mount my Usb Stick to back up some info?
[19:48] <reisio> SubCool: plug it in
[19:48] <freedomrun> nvm I found the way .. thnx anyway
[19:48] <SubCool> reisio, ya-.. cli-
[19:48] <reisio> SubCool: plug it in, see if it's automatically mounted by running 'mount'
[19:49] <reisio> SubCool: if not you can manually mount it, always with 'mount'
[19:49] <cailypso> hy which distribution is by default more secure ubuntu or archlinux?
[19:49] <xangua> !ot | cailypso
[19:49] <LjL> cailypso: a better question for ##linux, i suppose, or #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:49] <SubCool> reisio, i dont see it listed, and thats what i needed help with.. mounting it-
[19:49] <LordH3lment> OMFG why is ubuntu.com down?
[19:50] <cailypso> sry
[19:50] <SubCool> reisio, im seriously out of practice
[19:50] <reisio> cailypso: well, between those two it would have to be Ubuntu
[19:50] <LordH3lment> did the web server have problems? and ubuntu is dead like Slakware???
[19:50] <reisio> cailypso: but I wouldn't really choose either for such a use case
[19:50] <kim868> Just a quick question. I've scp'd some WAL files from one server to anotq
[19:50] <reisio> SubCool: does /sbin/blkid list it?
[19:50] <cailypso> reisio which would you?
[19:50] <reisio> kimico: that isn't a question
[19:50] <LjL> LordH3lment: calm down, and please avoid that sort of acronyms here. websites sometimes go down, no tragedy ;)
[19:50] <reisio> cailypso: what is your security concern?
[19:51] <Gunslinger2> i have a xubuntu support question and seeing as how #xubuntu is dead'er 'n doornail i thought i would ask here....
[19:51] <LordH3lment> LjL: yea, but when this happened to slackware a month ago. Everyone said it was dead
[19:51] <cailypso> by default high security configuration nothing more or less
[19:51] <cailypso> reisio
[19:51] <SubCool> reisio, lol, that didnt work out overy well. i cat filename'd and got Putty 50 times
[19:51] <LjL> LordH3lment: help.ubuntu.com is up, for instance, so apparently it's just one server having issues
[19:52] <reisio> SubCool: you what?
[19:52] <reisio> cailypso: yeah but even comparatively insecure Linux distros are pretty secure
[19:52] <reisio> cailypso: do you have a specific concern, or just want to be as paranoid as possible?
[19:52] <LordH3lment> LjL: OMG this is just like when slackware's web site went down. there mirror sites were up.
[19:52] <netmk> OMG OMG!
[19:52] <SubCool> reisio, i typed cat /sbin/blkid - and got PuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTY
[19:52] <LordH3lment> that is it Ubuntu could be in trouble
[19:52] <LjL> LordH3lment: oh surprise!
[19:53] <reisio> SubCool: interesting
[19:53] <reisio> SubCool: how about 'sudo blkid'?
[19:53] <xangua> LordH3lment: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[19:53] <LjL> LordH3lment: well let's move this to #ubuntu-offtopic anyway since it's not support
[19:53] <SubCool> reisio, got info that way..
[19:53] <SubCool> let me pull up pastbin
[19:53] <LordH3lment> LjL: is ok, i am posting a big blog post about it
[19:53] <LjL> LordH3lment: have fun
[19:53] <Gunslinger2> having a semi little issue with my remote xubuntu setup.  I currently can ssh & rdp via (rdp (from win7) to xubuntu (xrdp/vino)) but I can't seem to find anything on how to change the resolution of the session.  In the .rdp file on windows the resolution is set @ 1440x900, however the screen or session from the xubuntu machine is 1024x768.  is there any way to force the resolution to 1440x900?
[19:54] <reisio> SubCool: it'll probably be the last one, but there are ways to be more certain
[19:54] <SubCool> reisio, no- ur right,. i see it..
[19:54] <reisio> SubCool: what TYPE does it say?
[19:54] <SubCool> /dev/sdc1: LABEL="USB20FD" UUID="B614-82EB" TYPE="vfat"
[19:55] <reisio> SubCool: okay, so: mkdir /mnt/usb; mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/usb
[19:55] <SubCool> well, that makes sense.. ok
[19:55] <reisio> :D
[19:57] <betinho> hi, my program needs to save some information in the comments (property) of a png image. However when save it with Gimp, i can't to see with lib GraphicsMagick, or eog. So there isn't a standard to save metadata in PNG files?
[19:58] <Gunslinger2> anyone have any ideas?
[19:59] <sirriffsalot> Hey! I've done something rather stupid with my kernels and now when I boot into failsafex mode, or text-based interface since the normal 3.xxx kernels don't work with my 11.04 ubuntu, my internet won't connect no matter what.. I plug it in and it should work, and is working on a laptop right next to me, but not on this computer.. any ideas?:(
[19:59] <reisio> betinho: probably more to do with nobody caring about PNG metadata
[19:59] <SubCool> reisio, why am i getting permission denied when trying to copy a directory to my usb?
[19:59] <systest> anyone else having in issue with dnsmasq ignoring search domains in 12.04?
[20:00] <reisio> SubCool: because you don't have permission
[20:00] <SubCool> ....
[20:00] <reisio> SubCool: sudo chown -R youruser:youruser /mnt/usb
[20:00] <reisio> SubCool: or cp with sudo
[20:00] <SubCool> its probably because im remoted it
[20:00] <reisio> or you can remount it with options to give your user permissions
[20:00] <reisio> SubCool: not likely
[20:01] <asahi> how can I tell if I have libraries such as autoconf automake libpng12-dev libjpeg62-dev
[20:01] <sirriffsalot> Anyone?
[20:01] <llutz> asahi: apt-cache policy autoconf automake libpng12-dev libjpeg62-dev
[20:01] <guntbert> any info what is the matter with ubuntu.com?
[20:01] <reisio> asahi: dpkg -l | egrep -i 'foo|bar'
[20:01] <reisio> sirriffsalot: I'm a one
[20:02] <reisio> guntbert: what do you want at ubuntu.com?
[20:02] <SubCool> reisio, i dont think that chown hurt me... -- it just changed permission to my entire USB
[20:02] <reisio> SubCool: naturally
[20:02] <cailypso> as paranoid as possible :)
[20:02] <SubCool> lol - still denied
[20:02] <reisio> cailypso: mmm
[20:02] <reisio> cailypso: probably a waste of time
[20:02] <asahi> thanks
[20:02] <reisio> cailypso: there are distros just for that, though
[20:02] <SubCool> cp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/usb/08fec7159275a47101b7a1e517fefe55.jpg': Permission denied
[20:02] <robert__> I have installed/tested ssmtp (to my gmail account) on my 10.04.4 server and it works fine. How do I set this as the default mail "provider"? I wish to email server status reports/notifications. My normal method of server admin is Webmin. Thanks.
[20:02] <reisio> cailypso: nobody uses them because they're a waste of time
[20:02] <Gunslinger2> doesnt the nsa have a linux distro?
[20:03] <guntbert> reisio: sorry, wrong channel, I truly intended to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:03] <reisio> guntbert: seems no topic to me
[20:03] <SubCool> lol -wait nvm... most of the drive states not permitted
[20:03] <SubCool> lol.. ugh
[20:04] <cailypso> i go over to offtopic
[20:04] <zxiest> Hey :-)
[20:05] <zxiest> Do you guys know where the shortcuts in the launcher are located on disk?
[20:06] <Lorra> Hi everyone! Today I accidentally started deleting my Downloads folder from GNOME with shift+del and by the time I stopped it most of the stuff was gone and some of it was not something I can download again. I learnt of this scalpel piece of software. Is there a way to tell it I want it to recover only files which were deleted today?
[20:06] <trism> zxiest: most are in /usr/share/applications/ although they aren't specific to the launcher, the ones used are specified by the com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites gsettings key
[20:06] <reisio> Lorra: you might be able to get some of it back, depending on your FS, if you haven't written much new data over it (stop using the disk)
[20:07] <Lorra> reisio, with which software?
[20:07] <SubCool> ok, - im beginning to get frustratied
[20:07] <reisio> Lorra: depends on the FS
[20:07] <Jordan_U> Lorra: No.
[20:07] <Lorra> reisio, ext4
[20:07] <reisio> Lorra: you could try extundelete
[20:08] <reisio> Lorra: or if that doesn't work, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovery_Is_Possible
[20:08] <zxiest> trism wonderful! :-) ... How can I get it to run with sudo? should I precede the "Exec" path with sudo ?
[20:09] <guest2> How can I work with dialogs too big for my monitor
[20:09] <trism> zxiest: you'd want gksudo, so you get a password dialog
[20:09] <zxiest> trism cool.. Thanks :-) will try it out :-)
[20:10] <trism> zxiest: if you are going to edit the .desktop file, might be better to copy it to ~/.local/share/applications/ first so it doesn't get overwritten when the app is updated
[20:11] <mralberto> Is there a flag I can use with ls to print a list of absolute (or relative to the current dir) filenames (recursing directories) for use with cat/xargs/etc (like windows' "dir /b") rather than the directory path header followed by relative filenames?
[20:12] <escott> mralberto, the tool is "find"
[20:12] <zxiest> trism cool :-) ... I tried apt-get install gksudo .. no luck.. How can I use it?
[20:12] <BlueChaos> hey guys
[20:12] <escott> mralberto, find . -exec command {} \;
[20:12] <mralberto> escott, I was looking at "find" but I was hoping there was something less complicated.
[20:12] <mralberto> is that recursive by default?
[20:12] <BlueChaos> I wish to install desktop ubuntu 11.10 on ubuntu 12.04 who can help me  ?
[20:13] <Somelauw> quick question. since my computer is completely broken,
[20:13] <trism> zxiest: the package is gksu, but it is probably already installed
[20:13] <BlueChaos> with one tutorial
[20:13] <Somelauw> Can I remove the livecd while running a live session?
[20:13] <escott> mralberto, find is not that complicated. it just has a lot of options :). and yes it is recursive
[20:13] <guntbert> !upgrade | BlueChaos
[20:13] <Somelauw> To burn another disk?
[20:13] <Somelauw> Can I remove the livecd while running an ubuntu live session to burn another disk?
[20:13] <mralberto> escott, I'll try that.  Thanks :)
[20:14] <xangua> Somelauw: no
[20:14] <guntbert> BlueChaos: ah you want to downgrade? not supported
[20:14] <Somelauw> damn
[20:14] <SubCool> nice- somehow i just killed my kubuntu LIVEusb
[20:14] <Jordan_U> BlueChaos: Assuming you're talking about using GNOME2 in Ubuntu 12.04, you can't. There are many other options though, including GNOME3 fallback which is a lot like GNOME2's old shell, and XFCE which is also a lot like GNOME2.
[20:14] <BlueChaos> guntbert
[20:14] <BlueChaos> I have already installed ubuntu 12.04
[20:14] <BlueChaos> but I wish last desktop from ubuntu 11.10
[20:15] <BlueChaos> is more simple
[20:15] <BlueChaos> for using
[20:15] <BlueChaos> how can i do that ?
[20:15] <xangua> BlueChaos: both use unity by default
[20:15] <xangua> unity+gnome
[20:16] <mralberto> (I still think there should be an ls flag like "dir /b" though :P)
[20:16] <zxiest> trism :-) ...  Thanks! Working :-)
[20:16] <Seryth> Hey. I ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, and it's just finished; now what do I do? Do I have to restart for the changes to take effect?
[20:16] <bakarat> is there a way to set a default mask when a file is created? (specifically via samba)
[20:16] <Larry_the_Dalek> Hi all.  Anyone have an eta on when ubuntu.com will be available again?
[20:16] <bakarat> umask can substract rights, can you add them?
[20:17] <bakarat> i need rw-rw- by default, but atm it's rw-r--
[20:17] <BlueChaos> allright I understand what u say but tell me how I do to replace currently desktop interface 12.04 with 11.10 tell me one tutorial please
[20:17] <OerHeks> Seryth, not untill the message-dialog says so
[20:17] <Jordan_U> Seryth: Do you understand that "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" does *not* upgrade you to a new release of Ubuntu?
[20:17] <fasta> If I use the fancy GUI to install the latest fglrx drivers it comes up with some lame excuse for not working. Is this a known issue?
[20:17] <escott> bakarat, chmod g+w filename
[20:17] <SubCool> ok..  could someone help me- and NOT kill my stuff?
[20:17] <fasta> Also: why did the maintainer release something which doesn't work?
[20:17] <llutz> bakarat: you can set creation-masks in smb-conf, read the documentation
[20:18] <Seryth> Jordan_U: Oh. How do I upgrade to 12.04 then? *sigh* (Oh, and keep my home dir)
[20:18] <BlueChaos> xangua have a couple of minutes free to talk about this problem in private ?
[20:18] <Jordan_U> BlueChaos: It's not possilble. Try XFCE and see if you like that.
[20:18] <escott> bakarat, oh i see. i think you want to look at the suid variable on the group filed
[20:18] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | Seryth
[20:18] <escott> bakarat, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid#setuid_and_setgid_on_directories
[20:18] <BlueChaos> jordan_u now I'am search
[20:18] <Seryth> Jordan_U: Ty.
[20:18] <xangua> BlueChaos: i do not see or recieve privates
[20:18] <Jordan_U> Seryth: You're welcome.
[20:18] <fasta> BlueChaos: you can run Mint too.
[20:18] <bakarat> llutz, by god, I tried. every variation I could google but when I test it (admittedly from another linux machine using smb://), it does NOT work
[20:19] <fasta> BlueChaos: they basically try to create the Gnome2 experience, but with new components.
[20:19] <fasta> BlueChaos: I suggest you use KDE4.8.3, though.
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> fasta  i'm using that in ubuntu, cinnamon
[20:19] <Larry_the_Dalek> Looks like it's back up.  Have a good one all!
[20:20] <fasta> MonkeyDust: oh, great.
[20:20] <llutz> bakarat: then file a bug-report against samba, yours seem to be broken
[20:20] <fasta> As long as everyone can use what they like
[20:20] <BlueChaos> I'am not so advanced on linux like u suppose  I'am starter (fasta) evan my englesh is so bad I don`t explain u correctly what i'am tryng to do ..so soz for that
[20:21] <bakarat> is there no way to control the default creation mask of a file?
[20:21] <nvictor> i don't get grep sometimes
[20:21] <fasta> BlueChaos: google cinnamon install Ubuntu and follow instructions, I think.
[20:21] <fasta> BlueChaos: or ask MonkeyDust
[20:21] <SwedeMike> bakarat: man umask
[20:21] <nvictor> why would grep "Jun 3" file.log fail?
[20:21] <BlueChaos> one guy
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> BlueChaos  it's with a ppa, in ubuntu
[20:21] <llutz> bakarat: since you talk about samba: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/smb.conf.5.html#CREATEMASK
[20:22] <BlueChaos> make that happen installed on he's acount (my personal linux) interface destop 11.04
[20:22] <bakarat> SwedeMike, it only allows substraction of permissions, not addition (unless I'm missing something?)
[20:22] <SwedeMike> bakarat: why would you be allowed to set more permissions than your user has already?
[20:23] <escott> bakarat, setgid
[20:23] <KarateKip3> Hallow! I am trying to open a port here, but it just won't work. I tried ufw, and "sudo ufw status" says that the port is open, but nmap says that the port is closed. Even after I type "sudo ufw disable", nmap still says that the port is closed. I already rebooted and checked again, but still closed. How do I open a port?
[20:23] <BlueChaos> MonkeyDust,
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> BlueChaos
[20:23] <BlueChaos> can I gave u pm ?
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> no
[20:23] <bakarat> escott, this allows new files/dirs to inherit the group, but it does not inherit group permissions for files it seems?
[20:23] <llutz> KarateKip3: is there something listening on that port?
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> !pm| BlueChaos
[20:24] <KarateKip3> yes, but i have another port which has nothing listening on it. Same problem.
[20:25] <gkaklas_> KarateKip3: maybe you have to configure your modem (?)
[20:25] <KarateKip3> llutz ^^
[20:25] <KarateKip3> gkaklas: i already configured the modem
[20:25] <escott> bakarat, put setuid or setgid on the folder and any new files will get the folders permission set instead of umask. its usually used when one wants to have a folder where every new file is owned by one of their alternate groups so instead of being username:username it might be username:accounting
[20:26] <japro> uhm, if something wants like libxyz.so.4 what exactely decides which version it wants?
[20:26] <japro> so if there is say also libxyz.so.5
[20:26] <BlueChaos> fasta
[20:26] <BlueChaos> this is interface what u put me to looking for ?
[20:27] <Pliind> Hello all, im on a intel i7 and got 16GB of RAM, is 32bit ubuntu 12.04 the only way to go?
[20:27] <BlueChaos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTKBwqvCYrU
[20:27] <llutz> Pliind: use amd64
[20:27] <escott> bakarat, the other thing im noting is that this is samba. so if this file is on windows, then your permissions are meaningless and you just need to change your mount options
[20:28] <Pliind> llutz: I did mount amd64 on a usb-drive but all i got was a black screen with colored stripes across my screen
[20:28] <escott> !nomodeset | Pliind
[20:28] <samer> Guys, i cant watch youtube , firebug show this message "HTTP "Content-Type" of "video/mp4""
[20:29] <escott> samer, you might try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:30] <samer> escott, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[20:31] <samer> escott, i hope it will work :) installing :)
[20:31] <mc_mikeehbwoi>  hiya
[20:32] <palko7> does anyone know why i cant download te windows installer from the ubunutu website?
[20:32] <mc_mikeehbwoi> how do i set up fbdev for xorg?
[20:32] <mc_mikeehbwoi> palko7: im sure theres a windows installer in the .iso
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> palko7  what happens when you try? 'nothing' is not an answer
[20:32] <Pliind> Thanks for the help escott!
[20:33] <palko7> when i click install the installer it just loads the download page again
[20:33] <palko7> and doesnt actually begin the download
[20:33] <DJones> palko7: There has been an issue with the ubuntu.com website but sounds like that has been fixed now, may be worth trying again
[20:33] <mc_mikeehbwoi> anyone knows the answer to the question i just typed a few secs ago?
[20:34] <palko7> tried again does the same thing
[20:34] <palko7> just loads ubuntu.com/download
[20:34] <DJones> palko7: I've just tried, I get that problem as well
[20:34] <SubCool> can someone help me with a backup-? i am dealing with ticked off windows/kubuntu box.. im using a LiveUSB to access the drives, but when i try to cp files from the HDD to the USB, i get premission denied
[20:34] <mc_mikeehbwoi> try as root :)
[20:35] <mc_mikeehbwoi> or use puppy linux :D
[20:35] <mc_mikeehbwoi> for backup
[20:35] <Sidewinder1> !rootirc | mc_mikeehbwoi
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> !patience| mc_mikeehbwoi
[20:36] <OerHeks> palko7 running 64 bit windows?
[20:36] <palko7> yea
[20:36] <OerHeks> wubi is 32 bit, AFAIK
[20:36] <palko7> ok
[20:37] <palko7> ill just try it with a usb stick then
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> palko7  that's the normal and correct way
[20:37] <palko7> yea i just figured wubi would be easier
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> palko7  wubi is not an independant installation, it's inside windows
[20:38] <Pliind> Ok i got the nomodeset part, understand what needs to be done, But where? since i cant boot the stick i need to do something now running windows right? right now im dicking around in boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:38] <Sidewinder1> palko7, I would suggest that you stay away from wubi; WADR to the developers, of course. :)
[20:39] <BlueChaos> Thx for help guys
[20:39] <BlueChaos> I' done it
[20:39] <meph15t0> hello every one
[20:40] <meph15t0> just changed the motherboar and the processor (amd a4-3400) and ubuntu 12.04 is not rendering. just showing a noisy purple screen- Any advise brothers?
[20:40] <SubCool> mc_mikeehbwoi, why wouldnt it work as a user? -
[20:40] <SubCool> mc_mikeehbwoi, doesnt this mean all the fiels are going to require root access to view and alter?
[20:40] <palko7> ok, so if im trying to dual boot windows and ubuntu, if i partition a disk and create unallocated space do i need to format that space or no?
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> palko7  the installer does it for you
[20:41] <palko7> ok
[20:41] <palko7> thanks
[20:42] <mc_mikeehbwoi> SubCool: no idea, but do try it with puppy linux, or maybe your usb is write protected or mounted as read only
[20:42] <escott> Pliind, when you boot the livecd there is a moment you can press shift or enter and it brings up a menu. select english and then you can find a nomodeset option (I think it is under F7)
[20:43] <escott> meph15t0, hit the up arrow. what does it say?
[20:43] <mc_mikeehbwoi> SubCool: if you can view the files it should be copied
[20:43] <mc_mikeehbwoi> well
[20:43] <Pliind> thanks escott, ill give it a try!
[20:43] <mc_mikeehbwoi> in case the filesystem youre copying to is not write-protected/mounted as read only
[20:44] <escott> OerHeks, 64bit wubi is supported
[20:44] <meph15t0> escott: unfortunately i changed switched again so im talking here- lol
[20:44] <gcctser> hi
[20:44] <escott> meph15t0, things to check are the boot log messages which can be viewed by hitting up. if the graphics just arent correct try !nomodeset
[20:45] <mc_mikeehbwoi> K lol rejoining as a non-root user =P
[20:45] <meph15t0> escott: nomodeset? where to change that?
[20:45] <gcctser> guys i use these 2 rules: iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -m state --state NEW -m recent --set iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -m state --state NEW -m recent --update --seconds 2 --hitcount 4 -j DROP , to limit connections per ip , how should i modify these rules to set a global connection limit (not per ip but total)...?
[20:46] <escott> meph15t0, since you have an installed system you could either edit your grub boot parameters or boot a livecd and chroot in
[20:46] <escott> !nomodeset | meph15t0
[20:47] <meph15t0> very good friends letme work out. escott ubottu
[20:50] <Vinto> Hi for some reason synaptic and gparted are not asking me for my password ...is there a way to change this?
[20:53] <fasta> How do I run Ubuntu without vesafb?
[20:53] <fasta> I just want to have the bios driver for my vttys, and that's it.
[20:53] <cordoval> Bus 002 Device 044: ID 046d:c03d Logitech, Inc. M-BT96a Pilot Optical Mouse
[20:53] <cordoval> Couldn't open device, some information will be missing
[20:53] <cordoval> Device Descriptor:   bLength                18  1  bDescriptorType        getting this on my mouse
[20:53] <cordoval> it goes and comes back what is wrong with ubuntu?
[20:53] <FloodBot1> cordoval: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:54] <Cottus> fasta you can blacklist it
[20:54] <BlueChaos> fasta, thx for help man
[20:54] <fasta> Cottus: I did, and it ... ignored it.
[20:54] <fasta> Cottus: how can I see whether it's part of initrd or not?
[20:55] <fasta> Cottus: lsmod lists it, so I thought it was a module.
[20:55] <fasta> Cottus: I have blacklist vesafb in /etc/modprobe.d/whatever.conf
[20:55] <Cottus> i don't know
[20:55] <fasta> Cottus: if you don't know, why do you answer?
[20:55] <Cottus> i answered about the blacklisting
[20:56] <lovegame> i cant watch YouTube , firebug show "HTTP "Content-Type" of "video/mp4""
[20:56] <fasta> Cottus: it's not an answer if it is the wrong answer.
[20:56] <Cottus> your'e being angry does not make it a wrong answer
[20:56] <mc_mikeehbwoi> now im not root! =PPPP
[20:57] <mc_mikeehbwoi> was hard to do that make 'screen' work
[20:57] <lovegame> i cant watch YouTube , firebug show "HTTP "Content-Type" of "video/mp4"" --  what i remember i try install posfix and configuration it next i remove it .. !!! any idea ?
[20:57] <lovegame> complete firebug message => HTTP "Content-Type" of "video/mp4" is not supported. Load of media resource http://o-o.preferred.ams04s07.v14.lscache6.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?upn=d7LwYUf-WuM&sparams=cp%2Cid%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Cratebypass%2Csource%2Cupn%2Cexpire&fexp=911628%2C907217%2C907335%2C921602%2C919306%2C919316%2C912804%2C913542%2C919324%2C912706&ms=au&itag=43&ip=188.0.0.0&signature=6C3DB98C29E60266F6267A3792B42FB865FD64C4.AFB09A30CB58A844867F6AE
[20:57] <lovegame> BF73C33702E4E37F2&sver=3&mt=1338929112&ratebypass=yes&source=youtube&expire=1338950796&key=yt1&ipbits=8&cp=U0hSTVlQTl9OUENOMl9RSlJIOnpyX3dyUldRYTVl&id=4626f1cebe4bcc68 failed.
[20:57] <lovegame> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ribxzr5LzGg&feature=g-logo-xit
[20:57] <lovegame> Line 0
[20:57] <FloodBot1> lovegame: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:58] <fasta> Cottus: it is, by definition, the wrong answer.
[20:58] <fasta> Cottus: I am not angry. Just pointing out an inconvenient truth.
[21:00] <escott> lovegame, what does youtube.com/html5 say regarding codec support
[21:02] <lovegame> escott,  Video tag,  h.264 , WebM , You are currently in the HTML5 trial. << that what you mean ?
[21:02] <fasta> Cottus: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/87158
[21:02] <escott> lovegame, yes
[21:02] <fasta> Cottus: it only exists for what? 5 years!
[21:02] <sirriffsalot> Anyone here know how I can change the way my mixer gadget in E17 (enlightenment) looks?:)
[21:02] <fasta> Does anyone ever fix a bug in this broken Linux?
[21:03] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, any1 knows how to set higher priority for graphics to a game running under wine?
[21:03] <lovegame> escott, well i was sure youtube was working since i watched some how to configuration  postfix but i dont know what i changed make it not work :(
[21:03] <lovegame> escott, maybe hostname or hosts or something else !
[21:04] <fasta> Can anyone tell me how I can get a _working_ kernel without vesafb?
[21:04] <escott> lovegame, what does the page say?
[21:04] <cordoval> someone on problems with mouse on ubuntu?
[21:04] <fasta> You know one that actually follows instructions?
[21:05] <lovegame> escott,  what you mean by what it say ? what i should look for ?
[21:05] <gueriLLaPunK> what program can i use to check my hdds to see if its failing? ubuntu server 9.10
[21:05] <auronandace> gueriLLaPunK: 9.10 is no longer supported
[21:05] <lovegame> escott,  all check correct ==> Video tag,  h.264 , WebM , You are currently in the HTML5 trial
[21:06] <escott> lovegame, thats what i wanted to know. you didnt say if they were enabled or not
[21:06] <gueriLLaPunK> ok, but im sure there are some cmds i can use to check my disk, auronandace?
[21:06] <lovegame> escott,  all check correct ==> Video tag , WebM , You are currently in the HTML5 trial  <<<  h.264 not checked in F.F.
[21:06] <lovegame> escott, h.264 checked in chrome
[21:07] <gkaklas> cordoval: just ask your question :)
[21:07] <cordoval> gkaklas:  i did
[21:07] <japro> hmm, there is libllvm3.0 but no -dev
[21:07] <cordoval> mouse is not working, Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse on ubuntu 12.04
[21:08] <gueriLLaPunK> what apt-get program can i use to check my hdds to see if its failing?
[21:08] <cordoval> it works sometimes and then get disabled automatically, lsusb still list it but it does not lit up or work, also dmesg does not do anything
[21:09] <japro> gueriLLaPunK, usually there is already a "disk utility" installed that can run the self tests etc
[21:09] <gueriLLaPunK> sweet
[21:09] <auronandace> gueriLLaPunK: if you are using 9.10 then apt-get likely won't work since 9.10 is no longer supported (the repos might not exist anymore)
[21:09] <CrazyGangster> lovegame: try install this if u have problems with playing flash https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-aid/
[21:10] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, any1 knows how to set higher priority for graphics to a game running under wine?
[21:10] <gueriLLaPunK> well, isnt there one built in that i can use? where can i find information on disk utility CLI
[21:10] <lovegame> CrazyGangster, i will
[21:10] <cordoval> see noone is able to help :'(
[21:10] <cordoval> now mouse is back working but it will do it again
[21:11] <fasta> How can I nuke plymouth?
[21:13] <escott> gueriLLaPunK, smartctl
[21:13] <LanceLionroar> guys i need help
[21:13] <escott> fasta, dont try
[21:14] <BlueChaos> fasta
[21:14] <LanceLionroar> ??
[21:14] <gueriLLaPunK> thanks escott!
[21:14] <escott> fasta, or at least dont do anything like apt-get remove
[21:14] <BlueChaos> can u tell me one software for unbuntu to config much faster documents txt
[21:14] <gueriLLaPunK> crap
[21:15] <escott> !info smartmon-tools | gueriLLaPunK
[21:15] <lovegame> what the command to enter MX/A and change nameserver ?
[21:15] <gueriLLaPunK> -bash: smartctl: command not found
[21:15] <escott> gueriLLaPunK, sorry without the hyphen smartmontools
[21:15] <lovegame> i mean what the command to make dns !
[21:15] <gueriLLaPunK> installing it now, escott
[21:16] <ojitos> oye quien
[21:16] <auronandace> escott: gueriLLaPunK is on 9.10, i already told him it is no longer supported
[21:16] <ojitos> de aqui es español
[21:16] <auronandace> !es | ojitos
[21:16] <fasta> escott: fglrx + vesafb is known to not work, so why does Ubuntu make it hard to get rid of vesafb?
[21:16] <fasta> escott: that's just retarded.
[21:17] <LanceLionroar> guys??
[21:17] <escott> !help | LanceLionroar
[21:17] <ojitos> hola
[21:17] <auronandace> LanceLionroar: if you need help then you should tell us the problem
[21:17] <ojitos> me llamo daniel
[21:17] <ojitos> y digo cosas
[21:18] <ojitos> en español
[21:18] <auronandace> ojitos: /join #ubuntu-es
[21:18] <ojitos> puedo hablar en español?
[21:19] <LanceLionroar> 2 problems
[21:19] <RulerOf> I couldn't quite find the url to browse the git archives, but I'm trying to rebuild the 11.10 kernel with 1000hz timing for voip... is the correct URL  git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-oneiric.git?
[21:19] <LanceLionroar> on my galaxy fit s5670 the auto rotation doesnt feel like its working correctly
[21:20] <LanceLionroar> it easily goes horrizontally when i switch it that way, but when I want it vertically again it's not working
[21:21] <escott> !ot | LanceLionroar android is not ubuntu
[21:23] <ShinyObjects> Hey all - what's your favorite desktop widget set? I know a while back there were a few alternatives but the only one I remember right now is gdesklets
[21:23] <afon33> hello
[21:23] <auronandace> !poll | ShinyObjects
[21:23] <afon33> is this the channel where I can place a question about ubuntu?
[21:24] <ShinyObjects> auronandace: I wasn't asking what the "best" was :) I'm just asking what my options are. I'll test them out from there
[21:24] <aeon-ltd> afon33: yes if it's support related
[21:24] <auronandace> afon33: support related yes
[21:24] <afon33> it is
[21:25] <auronandace> ShinyObjects: you asked for favourites, we don't do polls in this channel
[21:25] <CrazyGangster> agree
[21:25] <afon33> I have ubuntu 10.10 in my laptop. it ran ok, but it started to suffer from slow boot a few days ago. it has improved but now it goes really slow when I open firefox (it didn't use to go that slow). any comments?
[21:25] <auronandace> !10.10 | afon33
[21:25] <afon33> i know,
[21:26] <auronandace> afon33: you need to use a supported release
[21:26] <afon33> but maybe it was just a matter of changing a small configuration detail
[21:26] <afon33> imagine that happens with a supported release. what would you say?
[21:27] <Cottus> try and see what uses cpu/ram with top
[21:27] <cypher-neo> afon33, But it DIDN'T happen with a supported release.
[21:27] <afon33> ...   :(
[21:28] <aeon-ltd> afon33: well, let's just start with the obvious, what changed between then and now?
[21:28] <AlanBell> cypher-neo: afon33: clearly we don't slow down boot times and firefox times when things go EOL though
[21:28] <cypher-neo> AlanBell, True...
[21:28] <AlanBell> however upgrading to a supported release would still be a good course of action
[21:29] <afon33> the day before the first "slow boot" i switched off the computer suddenly, without letting it kill all the tasks
[21:29] <ShinyObjects> Hey everybody, what is a completely opinion-free list of desktop widget sets that I could look into?
[21:29] <ShinyObjects> Better?
[21:29] <aeon-ltd> afon33: ok, continue
[21:29] <AlanBell> afon33: you could try a guest session or start firefox with a fresh profile in some other way
[21:30] <aeon-ltd> afon33: does this happen all the time?
[21:30] <afon33> well, maybe it ir related to the RAM, since the machine goes slow when I open firefox, but... I didn't install anything new
[21:30] <aeon-ltd> afon33: how much ram do you have?
[21:31] <afon33> 500 MB
[21:31] <auronandace> afon33: the longer you stay on an unsupported release the more problems are going to accumilate over time, why do you think there is an EOL policy?
[21:31] <aeon-ltd> afon33: have you changed a value known as swappiness?
[21:31] <afon33> i am afraid of installing a new version of ubuntu, because maybe this machine is too old
[21:31] <cm-t> hi, where can I have confirmation there are some trouble on website (trying register a series: Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad. )    launchpad in my case ?
[21:31] <auronandace> !lubuntu | afon33
[21:31] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, What's the problem with the mouse?
[21:32] <djskidd> HELP ME I accidentally messed up my mon's computer while installing Ubuntu to a flash drive. It says error: device not found and a string of numbers. What do I do before my mom realizes I screwed up?
[21:32] <cordoval> it stops working
[21:32] <cordoval> sirriffsalot: Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse
[21:32] <fasta> Which framebuffer modules do I need to boot?
[21:32] <afon33> is it as easy to use?
[21:32] <rolandb> hey whats that alternate to pcmanfm that's lightweight? thuna?
[21:32] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, does it freeze?
[21:32] <cordoval> no
[21:32] <aeon-ltd> afon33: kinda, but if you want to dive into linux, you can change EVERYTHING.
[21:32] <cordoval> it stops, lights go off
[21:32] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, oh
[21:32] <afon33> hold on, please, i'll be back in a few minutes
[21:33] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, you sure it has something to do with linux?
[21:33] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, have you tried it on another computer?
[21:33] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, or operating system?
[21:33] <djskidd> Her hard drives are safe, but I can't get GRUB to come up with the operating systems
[21:33] <cordoval> the only way i can get it back is if i unplug it, wait for 4 minutes or so, then plug it back and hope it works, all the while it shows on lsusb ubuntu 12.04 latest
[21:33] <aeon-ltd> rolandb: thunar's pretty light, but it drags in more packages than pcmanfm does
[21:34] <cordoval> sirriffsalot: it is something with ubuntu
[21:34] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, ok. how recent is this?
[21:34] <cordoval> because it works but it stops working
[21:34] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, yeah, just checking:) did you install anything or make any changes and then it started happening?
[21:34] <cordoval> no, just ubuntu 12.04
[21:34] <fasta> Which framebuffer modules do I need to boot?
[21:35] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, when it happens, do "dmesg" in terminal and see if you find anything mouse-related
[21:35] <cordoval> i have done it many times sirriffsalot
[21:35] <Android75> I am having some real problems with getting unity 3d to work
[21:35] <cordoval> but then what to do
[21:35] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, how am I to know?:D Have you reinstalled?:P
[21:35] <cordoval> when connected even if not working it always lists the device
[21:35] <cordoval> reinstalled what sirriffsalot
[21:35] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, ubuntu 12.04
[21:36] <gkaklas> djskidd: so if grub does work, what is the problem?
[21:36] <cordoval> oh no
[21:36] <rolandb> aeon-ltd, "drags in more packages"?? i like pcmanfm but its way too buggy
[21:36] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, well to save some time, try to run a 12.04 ubuntu with a livecd
[21:36] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, see if the same thing happens
[21:36] <djskidd> It says "Error: Device not found 987847982759-298370897" (not exact numbers
[21:36] <djskidd> I have to reinstall GRUB, how do I do that?
[21:37] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, if not, I suggest you reinstall ubuntu since it seems you've done a lot of research on this already without luck
[21:37] <Jon--atwork> djskidd, What version of Ubuntu?
[21:37] <AlanBell> djskidd: what do you think was on the computer before you started?
[21:37] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, gonna do a reboot
[21:37] <Jordan_U> djskidd: Does your mom's computer only have Windows?
[21:38] <Android75> whenever I go into ubuntu 3d, unity just crashed and my desktop is unresponsive
[21:38] <aeon-ltd> rolandb: if you're using xubuntu or xfce already i'd just use thunar. though really you could just get used to cp/mv/rm; i feel that gui managers are only beneficial because of drag and drop and opening files easier
[21:38] <tpw_rules> hello. i'm trying to set up a VPN so i can access my home network devices from abroad. can anybody point me to a tutorial?
[21:38] <tpw_rules> i'm not tremendously experienced with vpn
[21:39] <guest2> !clone
[21:39] <guest2> aww man, I already did it wrong
[21:39] <djskidd> Does the version matter? From past experience, I have to reinstall GRUB by booting from the install disk (which I have done). I'm at the desktop off the disc. What package do I have to install?
[21:39] <Jon--atwork> guest2, did you use dpkg instead?
[21:40] <guest2> Nah I did this other thing online
[21:40] <guest2> sudo dpkg --get-selections | sed "s/.*deinstall//" | sed "s/install$//g" > ~/pkglist
[21:40] <Jon--atwork> djskidd, Let's make sure you actually need to reinstall GRUB. What was on your mom's computer before it stopped working? Windows, Windows + Ubuntu?
[21:40] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, any luck?:P
[21:40] <guest2> so now I'll have to get to the other computer
[21:40] <guest2> and do it again with this one
[21:41] <Jon--atwork> guest2, You shouldn't have to, hold on.
[21:41] <rodhash> Hello guys... I'm working on a issue with Ubuntu installation...
[21:41] <rodhash> After it was installed and restarted the graphical was terribly bad, then I changed GRUB to boot in text mode, the problem persisted and even on text mode it was hard to type read...
[21:41] <djskidd> Windows and a broken Ubuntu install, but I could still boot to Windows.
[21:41] <rodhash> I found one error message on dmesg saying "no AGP bridge found" and then I started investigating the video adapter
[21:41] <rodhash> However there's another issue, the system hostname is "localhost" and not the name I gave during the installation
[21:41] <rodhash> So, is this some video issue or OS installation issue? Any idea?
[21:41] <hdw632> why can i not download wubi?
[21:42] <LordOfTime> hdw632:  its a bug.  releases.ubuntu.com
[21:42] <LordOfTime> hdw632:  start from that site, choose the release you want, download the wubi installer directly
[21:42] <guest2> woobie
[21:42] <hdw632> k thanks
[21:43] <hdw632> wait, where is wubi at on that page?
[21:43] <guest2> lol things keep breaking on me for some reason. apport comes up like every hour or so
[21:43] <LordOfTime> hdw632:  choose the release "Precise Pangolin"
[21:43] <LordOfTime> and then wubi.exe i think is all you'll need
[21:43] <Jon--atwork> guest2, If you have easy access to the other machine, then do what clone suggests.
[21:43] <guest2> yeah it's more or less accessible, just annoying because the screen doesn't work lol
[21:43] <Jon--atwork> guest2, the only diff in what you did is that it contains automatically installed packages too
[21:43] <hdw632> thanks
[21:43] <guest2> ah ok
[21:44] <guest2> yeah that would be annoying to feed into aptitude
[21:44] <Jon--atwork> I've used dpkg to do this before without issue.
[21:44] <guest2> or I dunno, I guess it wouldn't matter if they were already installed
[21:44] <Jon--atwork> It will flag it as manually installed
[21:44] <guest2> Will it make a difference
[21:45] <gkaklas> djskidd: what exactly did you do before you got the problem and what are you trying to do?
[21:45] <Jon--atwork> Well, it will also include packages for drivers and things
[21:46] <djskidd> Before I got the problem, I was installing Ubuntu Precise to a flash drive to use at school. Now, I have to reinstall GRUB so that my mom can boot into Windows or so I can fix a broken Ubuntu install or so I can use the new flash drive.
[21:46] <Jon--atwork> guest2, To be safe, I would do what clone suggests, but in 99% of cases, dpkg --get-selections -> install on new sys is fine.
[21:46] <guest2> It's a shame Oneiric wasn't the LTS. I like ocelots
[21:47] <guest2> They're like cats only better.
[21:47] <farkerhaiku> Hi, simple question and google's being annoying. how do you force a user's session to end after x minutes of idleness?  TMOUT in the bashrc doesn't work (wrong thing)
[21:47] <guest2> Is there a way to get screensavers working in gnome 3? I installed xscreensaver, but it doesn't run, even if I remove gnome-screensaver
[21:49] <Guest49848> Hi.  I am trying to install ubuntu desktop 12.04 64bit on a dell t3500 with two 1tb drives configured in raid1 (mirror).  The raid array is partitioned into a 20mb ext4 boot disk, a 12gb swap, and then the rest as an ext4 root partition.  When I attempt to boot I get a kernel panic. "VFS: unable to mount root fs"
[21:49] <fasta> Do the Ubuntu developers have a problem with shell scripting or what?
[21:50] <fasta> Why do I see pages of instructions that can be automated in 30 minutes or so?
[21:50] <jrib> fasta: be more specific...
[21:50] <fasta> I only want to build a custom kernel; I am not asking for miracles here.
[21:50] <gkaklas> djskidd: from the live distro run "update-grub" or "update-grub2". This will let grub know which operating systems you have on the machine. Before you do it unplug your flash drive (except you booted from it)
[21:50] <jrib> !kernel | fasta
[21:50] <fasta> I have to follow the 12 steps program.
[21:50] <Cottus> djskidd, i thinks live cd> make a 50MB partition for grub > grub-setup --directory=/media/new-partition/boot/ > grub-install --boot-directory=/media/new-partition/boot/ /dev/sd? <--device-name(a,b,c)( find it with 'df')
[21:50] <djskidd> No, I'm booting from a disc
[21:51] <fasta> jrib: the bug has been open for 5 years already.
[21:51] <hdw632> i am using wubi and its downloading the amd version on the os, but i have an intel processer
[21:51] <hdw632> of the os
[21:51] <fasta> jrib: do you really think some magic developer is going to fix it, unless I fix it myself?
[21:51] <jrib> fasta: what bug? I have no clue what you are talking about.  You asked about building a custom kernel, so I sent you instructions to do it
[21:51] <guest2> amd64 is just the name for the 64-bit architecture
[21:51] <hdw632> ok
[21:51] <guest2> Because AMD beat Intel to the punch
[21:51] <guest2> lol
[21:51] <fasta> jrib: those instructions should be in a script.
[21:52] <fasta> jrib: it's completely redundant for me to copy-paste 12 steps.
[21:52] <Guest49848> guest2: and the version intel wrote on their own was impossible to write a good compiler for
[21:52] <guest2> oh that EM64T thing?
[21:52] <jrib> fasta: umm, you get the source and build the kernel.  Pretty sure it's 2 or 3 commands
[21:52] <fasta> jrib: and as for the bug: it's the bug that I cannot boot with vesafb.
[21:52] <fasta> jrib: your 'pretty sure' is completely wrong.
[21:52] <NeedHelpPlz> hi all, im trying to use fsck to see if my hdds are failing, but i dont know how to use it. these instructions are confusing :\ http://linux.die.net/man/8/fsck
[21:52] <NeedHelpPlz> the disks are in RAID 0 and im not currently booted into the hdds, using a network boot and ssh
[21:52] <fasta> jrib: please don't talk about things you don't know about.
[21:52] <NeedHelpPlz> anytime i try to run fsck all i get is this "fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2 "
[21:53] <fasta> What is it with people that want to talk?
[21:53] <guest2> fasta: please don't be a jerk :P
[21:53] <Ca11umD> I am trying to connect via SSH to a LAN machine, but using both the computer name and IP don't work...
[21:53] <jrib> fasta: look.  You have the instructions.  If you would prefer a script, then copy and paste the commands there.  Please stay on the topic of support
[21:53] <fasta> guest2: they are just screaming for me to be one.
[21:53] <farkerhaiku> Hi, simple Precise question and google's being annoying. how do you force a user's session to end after x minutes of idleness?
[21:53] <guest2> fasta: do you do everything for which people scream at you to do?
[21:54] <guest2> :D
[21:54] <Ca11umD> ssh: Could not resolve hostname Laptop-1: Name or service not known
[21:54] <fasta> jrib: the point is that those 'instructions' suggest that whoever wrote it cannot do shell scripting.
[21:54] <jrib> fasta: not at all
[21:54] <Ca11umD> And using the IP returns "Connection refused"
[21:54] <fasta> jrib: yes, it does.
[21:54] <guest2> Ca11umD did you install openssh-server yet?
[21:54] <NeedHelpPlz> connection refused = port not open, Ca11umD
[21:54] <fasta> jrib: writing a shell script is faster than writing the human readable text too.
[21:54] <NeedHelpPlz> make sure your router has that port open
[21:54] <jrib> fasta: alright, I agree that to you they suggest that.  Can we move on?
[21:55] <^Mike> I had previously set the min/max/close buttons on my windows to be on the right - but now it makes more sense to have them on the left. How can I change that?
[21:55] <Ca11umD> Is there no simple SSH system inbuilt into Ubuntu?
[21:55] <Ca11umD> I just want to execute commands via LAN
[21:55] <jrib> !ssh | Ca11umD
[21:55] <guest2> Not on a default system, I don't think
[21:55] <zhanger> @ ^Mike gconf-editor
[21:55] <fasta> jrib: well, it would be nice to know who wrote the instructions; i.e. some random users from the IntarWebz or a Canonical employee.
[21:55] <guest2> You have to install openssh-server package
[21:55] <jrib> fasta: the community
[21:55] <NeedHelpPlz> !fsck
[21:55] <fasta> jrib: what kind of communistic answer is that?
[21:56] <stephenh> Ca11umD: just type 'ssh host' ?
[21:56] <fasta> jrib: are you sure it wasn't the collective?
[21:56] <zhanger> go to /apps/metacity/general and edit the button_layout property, ^Mike
[21:56] <fasta> jrib: or the hive-mind?
[21:56] <jrib> fasta: again, please stick to support
[21:56] <NeedHelpPlz> i just need to check to see if my hdd is failing. will fsck do that?
[21:56] <Guest49848> Hi.  As I said.  I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04, but at boot I get a kernel panic "VFS: Unable to mount root fs"
[21:56] <fasta> jrib: I am trying to get some support here, but nobody seems to be above my skill level.
[21:56] <zhanger> you probably want the colon on the right side of the buttons so it's on the left
[21:57] <jrib> fasta: I may have missed your question.  Can you ask it (on a single line; with relevant details)?
[21:57] <stephenh> fasta: what's the question?
[21:57] <guest2> NeedHelpPlz: Disk Utility will tell you if there are SMART errors if you want a quick answer. fsck, I think, will do a longer, better check.
[21:57] <fasta> jrib: how do I get a working system with the fglrx driver which involves not using the vesafb driver according to the people in #ati?
[21:57] <NeedHelpPlz> im trying to run fsck, but all i get is "fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2 "
[21:58] <NeedHelpPlz> i dont know what triggers i need to use to get it to check the whole disks
[21:58] <Ca11umD> Is there a better way than connecting to SSH and using zenity/notify-send for sending network messages?
[21:58] <NeedHelpPlz> guest2: ^^
[21:58] <fasta> jrib: blacklisting vesafb results in it being loaded anyway, because of plymouth.
[21:58] <NeedHelpPlz> guest2: i dont have smart errors, that i can see
[21:58] <fasta> stephenh: question can be read above.
[21:58] <stephenh> fasta: got it :)
[21:58] <guest2> Ah, you gotta feed fsck some options I think
[21:58] <stephenh> ubuntu 12?
[21:58] <fasta> jrib: I am currently compiling a kernel (which I would rather not do)
[21:58] <guest2> do a man fsck and check em out
[21:58] <fasta> stephenh: yes
[21:58] <jrib> fasta: I don't know anything about fglrx.  Have you checked the wiki (/msg ubottu fglrx)?
[21:58] <^Mike> zhanger: thanks
[21:59] <NeedHelpPlz> guest2: i know i need to trigger options, but i dont know which ones. i found the options here - http://linux.die.net/man/8/fsck
[21:59] <fasta> stephenh: I think it's unfucking believable that Ubuntu displays a GUI to switch to a proprietary driver which then is known to be defective.
[21:59] <djskidd> what's the default password for user ubuntu on a live boot?
[21:59] <zhanger> i dont think there is
[21:59] <zhanger> o-o
[21:59] <guest2> it's blank
[21:59] <jrib> djskidd: why?
[21:59] <guest2> you can sudo without a password on livecd
[22:00] <djskidd> so I can run update-grub
[22:00] <guest2> well if i'm not mistaken anyway
[22:00] <stephenh> fasta: can't say i'm an ATI fan either tbh
[22:00] <Jordan_U> !language | fasta
[22:00] <stephenh> i'm guessing you've read the binarydriverhowto page?
[22:00] <fasta> stephenh: this is Ubuntu's fault alone.
[22:00] <fasta> stephenh: there is nobody to point at other than Ubuntu.
[22:00] <BlueChaos> fasta
[22:00] <guest2> lol
[22:00] <stephenh> fasta: i often see people trying to ask the same thing in fedora and they get shot down.
[22:00] <fasta> stephenh: you could point at me for making the mistake of installing Ubuntu, but that's it.
[22:01] <NeedHelpPlz> I need some help with fsck options. I dont know which ones I need to use. I've tried different combos and nothing is happening. http://linux.die.net/man/8/fsck
[22:01] <modernbob> kde is really nice on 12.04
[22:01] <fasta> stephenh: so, perhaps they also have no skills.
[22:01] <stephenh> fasta: it's not a bad OS.  i don't use it on my laptop but used it for a while on my desktop before replacing it with fedora
[22:01] <BlueChaos> tell me one software easly to use but with shortcuts to use in terminal
[22:01] <zhanger> NeedHelpPlz you're running it with sudo right
[22:01] <stephenh> have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[22:01] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: im logged in as root
[22:01] <BlueChaos> to config much queque documents and blablabla
[22:01] <stephenh> it seems straight forward enough
[22:01] <zhanger> what options are you specifying NeedHelpPlz
[22:01] <fasta> stephenh: yes, I did, and it's wrong.
[22:01] <djskidd> Precisely. "cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)
[22:01] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, fsck /dev/sda# where # is the partition number
[22:02] <fasta> stephenh: the instructions work, but you hit some known bug if you switch to a vtty.
[22:02] <NeedHelpPlz> ah, so i need to enter /dev/sda#
[22:02] <BlueChaos> fasta
[22:02] <drewbert2> hello
[22:02] <djskidd> I need to reinstall grub, and I need a package to do that. What is the package name?
[22:02] <BlueChaos> know ?
[22:02] <fasta> stephenh: because you cannot have vesafb and fglrx both managing the same video device.
[22:02] <zhanger> or you can do fsck -l to list all devices NeedHelpPlz
[22:02] <fasta> BlueChaos: yes....
[22:02] <djskidd> Like, service repair, something like that.
[22:02] <stephenh> ah ok, well i can't help with known bugs i'm afraid
[22:02] <BlueChaos> tell me if u know one
[22:02] <drewbert2> I am installing ubuntu 12.04 and I get kernel panic "VFS: unable to mount root fs"
[22:02] <fasta> BlueChaos: I cannot understand your English.
[22:02] <drewbert2> can someone help me fix this error?
[22:02] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, if there are problems it will ask what it should do. if you dont know the right answer fsck -a will say "yes" toeverything
[22:02] <BlueChaos> tell me one software easly to use but with shortcuts to use in terminal
[22:02] <stephenh> and hard to help with no ati card to replicate the issue
[22:02] <stephenh> sorry
[22:02] <BlueChaos> to config much queque documents and blablabla
[22:03] <djskidd> I remember the name someone, but the names I remember son't match
[22:03] <fasta> BlueChaos: there is no notion of shortcuts in Linux; there are symbolic and hardlinks.
[22:03] <jrib> !grub | djskidd
[22:03] <Jordan_U> djskidd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#ChRoot
[22:03] <NeedHelpPlz> fsck: fsck.linux_raid_member: not found fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.linux_raid_member for /dev/sda2
[22:03] <NeedHelpPlz> escott: ^^
[22:03] <BlueChaos> what i'am mean to say
[22:03] <BlueChaos> is
[22:03] <fasta> BlueChaos: there is the ln command for that: man ln for documentation.
[22:03] <drewbert2> I am so lost.
[22:03] <fasta> stephenh: it has nothing to do with known bugs.
[22:04] <BlueChaos> another ways to config currently (nano/pico) blablabla I need another one more easly
[22:04] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: fsck -l did not return anything
[22:04] <djskidd> Thanks, ubottu!
[22:04] <BlueChaos> with shorcuts to move better
[22:04] <stephenh> fasta: you just said it's a known issue?
[22:04] <jrib> BlueChaos: what are you editing exactly?
[22:04] <fasta> stephenh: I really would like to know why Ubuntu creates a broken experience out of the box.
[22:04] <Jordan_U> djskidd: Follow the link I gave you, there are many other guides which are completely wrong.
[22:04] <BlueChaos> eggdrop/psybnc/emech
[22:04] <stephenh> fasta: ah!
[22:04] <fasta> stephenh: well, perhaps not for Ubuntu developers.
[22:04] <BlueChaos> arhives
[22:04] <djskidd> I just used what ubottu gave me
[22:04] <fasta> stephenh: it is a known issue in the amd bugtracker.
[22:04] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, if you have raid you need to fsck /dev/md#
[22:05] <fasta> stephenh: and the other issue has been known for 5 years already.
[22:05] <Jordan_U> djskidd: No, it's wrong too unfortunately.
[22:05] <jrib> BlueChaos: and your issue is that you want an editor that can let you edit faster?  Tried vim or emacs?
[22:05] <fasta> stephenh: the one involving blacklisting vesafb.
[22:05] <BlueChaos> yes that i'am want jrib
[22:05] <fasta> stephenh: i.e. you blacklist vesafb, but ... it's not actually blacklisted.
[22:05] <jrib> BlueChaos: do you already know how to use one of vim or emacs?
[22:05] <zhanger> oh, i'm so sorry NeedHelpPlz i was thinking fdisk -l :(
[22:05] <fasta> stephenh: I mean, really, who makes up that stuff? It's so bad, it takes on epic proportions.
[22:05] <BlueChaos> no but .i'am will learn
[22:05] <NeedHelpPlz> escott: i did md1 and it checked it, but i need a more through check like chkdsk, to check for hdd errors
[22:06] <djskidd> Ubottu: Don't listen to Jordan_U, I know inside that was right.
[22:06] <djskidd> Aww.
[22:06] <jrib> BlueChaos: install a full version of vim and run vimtutor.  That's a great intro to vim
[22:06] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, install smartmontools and use smartctl to check the smart status
[22:06] <fasta> BlueChaos: no, install Emacs ;)
[22:06] <zhanger> NeedHelpPlz you can use e2fsck -c to check for bad blocks on the device
[22:06] <Jordan_U> fasta: Please stop editorializing and stick to productive support discussion.
[22:07] <BlueChaos> what to install guys emcs or vim ?
[22:07] <BlueChaos> what is better ?
[22:07] <NeedHelpPlz> escott: i have two other paritions? sda1 and sdb2. SMART logs are ok. i cant install smartmontools since im using a network boot
[22:07] <jrib> BlueChaos: try both
[22:07] <drewbert2> I am installing ubuntu 12.04 and I get kernel panic "VFS: unable to mount root fs"
[22:07] <drewbert2> can someone help me fix this error?
[22:07] <guest2> BlueChaos I hate both haha
[22:07] <fasta> Jordan_U: I told everything there is to be said. I am just still finding ignorant people.
[22:07] <BlueChaos> guest2
[22:07] <BlueChaos> what u use ?
[22:07] <guest2> nano hahaha
[22:07] <fasta> Jordan_U: all kinds of people which seem to offer coucelling, instead of technical support.
[22:08] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: i tried that command, but it seems to be missing another option
[22:08] <Jordan_U> fasta: If you can't stop editorializing then please leave. For that matter if you don't want to use Ubuntu, don't. The editorializing is just wasting everyone's time.
[22:08] <zhanger> you need the name of the device
[22:08] <fasta> Jordan_U: is editorializing even a word?
[22:08] <zhanger> like e2fsck -c /dev/sda2 or w/e
[22:09] <fasta> Jordan_U: you provided 100% metacomments, btw.
[22:09] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: thanks
[22:09] <fasta> Jordan_U: everything you said could be created by a machine.
[22:09] <BlueChaos> This is it ??
[22:09] <BlueChaos> * Dice-Man has quit (Quit: Lost termin?
[22:09] <Jordan_U> fasta: This is your last warning. Please stick to productive support discussion.
[22:09] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: e2fsck: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda1 Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program?
[22:09] <BlueChaos> lol
[22:09] <NeedHelpPlz> poop
[22:09] <zhanger> NeedHelpPlz make sure the device is unmounted
[22:09] <Ca11umD> "You need to install the Windows networks sharing service in order to share your folders." - how to acomplish this?
[22:09] <BlueChaos> This is it Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor?
[22:09] <zhanger> NeedHelpPlz what're you trying to scan, your current root partition?
[22:10] <jrib> BlueChaos: that's vim, yes
[22:10] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: no, im not using that partition. im on a network boot
[22:10] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: so it cant be mounted, right?
[22:10] <guest2> Ca11umD probably samba. What are you trying to do? Share files from an Ubuntu system to Windows boxes?
[22:10] <zhanger> hm
[22:10] <zhanger> NeedHelpPlz run "mount"
[22:10] <Ca11umD> No, share folders between Ubuntu machines
[22:10] <jrib> BlueChaos: if you install the "vim-gnome" package, you'll get a full version of vim including gvim
[22:10] <zhanger> does it state the partition you are trying to check is mounted
[22:10] <Ca11umD> I have a spare box to host shares on too
[22:11] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: http://pastie.org/4034385
[22:11] <NeedHelpPlz> i think its opened by another program, gonna soft reboot...one sec
[22:11] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: *^^
[22:11] <zhanger> NeedHelpPlz ok
[22:11] <djskidd> Okay, boot-repair will do what I needed it to do.
[22:11] <Ca11umD> And how can I enable host-resolution? I can't use Laptop-1 but I can use 192.168.1.104
[22:11] <Ca11umD> If I use the computer name, it just says it cannot be found
[22:12] <guest2> Need a DNS server, like bind or dnsmasq or something.
[22:12] <stephenh> echo '192.168.1.104 Laptop-1' >> /etc/hosts
[22:12] <escott> Ca11umD, run a DNS server on your router or add the entries to /etc/hosts
[22:12] <Ca11umD> How come Windows doesn't have this problem?
[22:13] <escott> Ca11umD, there is a difference between smb://computername/ and things like http://computername the first might work where the second doesnt
[22:13] <Ca11umD> I don't think my NETGEAR WNR2200 has a DNS service
[22:14] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: same thing :\
[22:14] <NeedHelpPlz> grr
[22:14] <zhanger> NeedHelpPlz try just running e2fsck -f /dev/sda1
[22:14] <NeedHelpPlz> k
[22:14] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: e2fsck: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda1 Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program?
[22:14] <zhanger> lol
[22:15] <ska> I just installed 12.04 amd64 on a AMD a6-llano chip. I'm only seeing 3.5gb of 4gb of memory though.
[22:15] <ska> Does it use that much for Video?
[22:15] <zhanger> NeedHelpPlz try running umount /dev/sda1
[22:15] <escott> ska, kernel
[22:15] <NeedHelpPlz> k
[22:15] <guest2> Ca11umD Windows has an old protocol called NetBIOS that it uses to send loud broadcasts to find machines. The problem with that is that every computer has to stop and listen to that broadcast. DNS uses what's called Unicast, so it's more efficient, but you need a DNS server.
[22:15] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: umount: /dev/sda1: not mounted
[22:16] <NeedHelpPlz> wow
[22:16] <zhanger> :(
[22:16] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, i thought you said you had raid. is sda1 part of the raid device?
[22:16] <Ca11umD> guest2, I can setup a spare box with Ubuntu, and install a DNS service...would it automatically add the entries or must I manually operate it?
[22:17] <escott> Ca11umD, you have to manually add the entries to the dns, and then set each computer to use that machine as a dns server
[22:17] <guest2> Ca11umD your router won't do it at all? I thought all the new routers used their DHCP client list as a makeshift DNS server
[22:17] <NeedHelpPlz> escott: i didnt build the filesystem... ill show u what it looks like... its weird, actually. http://i.imgur.com/EcctF.png
[22:18] <escott> Ca11umD, if your router supports tomato firmware it is very easy to setup
[22:18] <menturi> Hello. Why doesn't the splashscreen of libreoffice on ubuntu say "The Document Foundation"?
[22:18] <NeedHelpPlz> escott: i think its RAID1 for the OS and then RAID0 for the rest of the hdds
[22:18] <farkerhaiku> regarding my previous question about timeout, I ended up making a shell script that used the who -a command.  `who -a | grep $username | cut 45-46` gives you the idle time of $username and then with some shell scripting you can figure it out from there.  Posting my solution here in case this is archived.
[22:18] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, sda1 is part of the raid device. the mdadm drivers have an exclusive lock on the device file. you would have to break the raid to gain access to sda1
[22:19] <NeedHelpPlz> oh i see, escott
[22:19] <Jon--atwork> I have a much faster inet connection at the office than at home. I'd like to do do-release-upgrade fetching step without continuing on and actually upgrading the packages. Can this be done? I don't see a cli flag for it
[22:19] <NeedHelpPlz> escott: if its broken, can it be rebuilt without losing data?
[22:19] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, yes, but why would you want to access sda1?
[22:20] <NeedHelpPlz> i want to check the HDDs to see if they are failing
[22:20] <NeedHelpPlz> and i have no idea how to do so
[22:20] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, you dont need access to sda1 to do that. just look at the smart data
[22:21] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, and if you want something more than the smart data you might look at hdparm, but you have no good reason to break the raid. it will tell you nothing you cannot figure out otherwise
[22:21] <NeedHelpPlz> the smart data has not reported any errors. here is a log, escott -- http://pastie.org/4034438
[22:21] <ProGammer_> Hi
[22:21] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, ok sounds like the drives are good then. do you have some reason for believing otherwsie?
[22:21] <ProGammer_> i want to buy a new graphic card with CUDA support
[22:22] <NeedHelpPlz> escott: im having an issue saving some data to the hdds, which why i was thinking its the hdds
[22:22] <ProGammer_> and working nicely with ubuntu + compiz
[22:22] <guest2> What errors does it throw when you try to save data
[22:22] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, "an issue" can you be more specific
[22:22] <ProGammer_> any suggestion ?
[22:22] <guest2> ProGammer_ newegg > most expensive nvidia card lol
[22:22] <NeedHelpPlz> using WINE and uTorrent... im getting "error: file not found" when downloading
[22:23] <NeedHelpPlz> guest2, escott ^^
[22:23] <ProGammer_> hahahaha
[22:23] <xangua> NeedHelpPlz: there is utorrent for linux
[22:23] <paul_> Hello.
[22:23] <ProGammer_> no man i dont have that much money i want to pay 50-90$
[22:23] <guest2> NeedHelpPlz: I just use Transmission. The blocklist support is way quicker/easier/etc
[22:24] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, what is the path of this missing file?
[22:24] <paul_> I'm using ubuntu 12.4  everything is working fine, 'cept flash games.  On either chrome or ff.  any suggestions.
[22:24] <paul_> ?
[22:24] <NeedHelpPlz> you know what, i think its because the path is too long, lol
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[22:24] <NeedHelpPlz> escott: ^^ i dont know off the top of my head, but i know its long
[22:24] <NeedHelpPlz> lol i cant believe i didnt think of that
[22:24] <xangua> paul_: flash sucks in linux in general, complain with adobe ;)
[22:25] <guest2> "flash sucks" <-- this
[22:25] <paul_> xanga  cool, but I don't think they will be much help1
[22:25] <guest2> I'm glad not every website in the world is making their entire site in flash anymore
[22:25] <zhanger> NeedHelpPlz max filename size is 255 bytes for ext4
[22:25] <kisuke> ok i jsut updates and now my bluetooth adapter is disabled how can i find out why?
[22:25] <guest2> Hey does anyone know when btrfs is going to be production read
[22:25] <guest2> y
[22:25] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: thank you, thats the problem, i think. gonna try it out and see if that fixes it
[22:25] <NeedHelpPlz> i was confusing element not found, which is a hdd error
[22:26] <escott> guest2, no
[22:26] <sirriffsalot> "Not all updates can be installed" window for hannes-janetzek PPA.. any ideas?
[22:26] <paul_> Why is Ubuntu getting less and less easy to customize?
[22:26] <guest2> aww. For the longest time I wanted to use zfs, but it was licensed all dumb, but then someone told me about btrfs
[22:26] <xangua> paul_: define less easy to customize
[22:27] <zhanger> paul_ well desktop environments are just evolving
[22:27] <sirriffsalot> paul_, I do agree that they swap things around just to swap things around, it does get annoying
[22:27] <guest2> I abhoar Unity. I've been using gnome3
[22:28] <minas> Hi. I want to send an image via bluetooth to my mobile device, but the "sender" option is "not visible". Please see the image to understand: http://i50.tinypic.com/m1wns.jpg
[22:28] <wabash> Where can I find source code and home pages for the open source gnome 2 panel applets?
[22:28] <paul_> I used to be able to right click on panel and change it's color, placement, ect.  same with dock...
[22:29] <ProGammer_> anyone here has GeForce GT 520 ?
[22:29] <NeedHelpPlz> i would like to thank escott, zhanger for helping me out. it was because the path was too long (doh!) at least it wasnt anything more serious :)
[22:29] <sirriffsalot> ProGammer_, I have nvidia crap too, yes, how can I help?:D
[22:29]  * GabrieleV is away: Away
[22:29] <Aleminio> what makes ubuntu such a popular linux distribution compared to other ones?
[22:29] <xangua> ubottu: tell GabrieleV about away
[22:29] <sirriffsalot> "Not all updates can be installed" window for hannes-janetzek PPA.. any ideas?:P
[22:29] <guest2> I always thought it was word of mouth haha
[22:29] <wabash> Aleminio: It used to be configurability and fun.
[22:30] <ProGammer_> sirriffsalot: im looking for nvidia card not that expensive around 50-90$
[22:30] <zhanger> np NeedHelpPlz, i didn't do much though :(
[22:30] <ProGammer_> something like that GT 520
[22:30] <sirriffsalot> Aleminio, closest and easiest to Windows yet open-source;D
[22:30] <gueriLLaPunK> you helped me learn some new commands, zhanger :)
[22:30] <Aleminio> but why the "used to be?"
[22:30] <sirriffsalot> ProGammer_, oh, can't help you there, haha. Google might:P
[22:30] <wabash> I would n't say it's close to windows much, but ease of use.
[22:30] <escott> Aleminio, targeted at desktop users, and easier to install proprietary software (skype, flash, video drivers, etc)
[22:30]  * gueriLLaPunK is NeedHelpPlz 
[22:30] <sirriffsalot> wabash, cloSEST!;D
[22:30] <ProGammer_> sirriffsalot: not about the price
[22:30] <wabash> Aleminio: Because Unity is a very narrow specific paradigm, wherease it used to be that canonical supported many window manager options.
[22:31] <ProGammer_> does that official nvidia drivers works fine and support compiz + CUDA and ... ?
[22:31] <xangua> !ot | wabash Aleminio
[22:31] <ProGammer_> are they stable enough ?
[22:31] <escott> wabash, you can still install all those other window managers. nobody is stopping you
[22:31] <minas> Unity is new though (and I like it). I am sure it will be more customizable in future releases
[22:31] <wabash> escott: Used to be supported.
[22:32] <escott> wabash, and what exactly can you not install?
[22:32] <gueriLLaPunK> quick question again...is there a wait to update ubuntu without a fresh install?
[22:33] <wabash> escott: Well, it gets away from the "easiest to use" concept then. Sure, you could install *anything* if you wanted. But is it easy to use then?
[22:33] <xangua> !upgrade | gueriLLaPunK
[22:33] <paul_> could low memory be causing crash??
[22:33] <gueriLLaPunK> xangua, im on 9.10
[22:34] <xangua> !eol | gueriLLaPunK
[22:35] <diluted> i wonder how many quits there are here per day oO
[22:35] <wabash> log grep quit?
[22:35] <gueriLLaPunK> that answers it, xangua
[22:35] <gueriLLaPunK> thanks
[22:35] <zhanger> diluted you can check the logs :)
[22:35] <gueriLLaPunK> might as well do a fresh install...eventually
[22:35] <diluted> lol im new here
[22:36]  * diluted is now away, test (log\on pager\off)
[22:38]  * diluted is back after 2m 2s
[22:40] <diluted> i see services on here arent very accurate with their websites
[22:40] <diluted> Not Found
[22:40] <diluted> The requested URL /channel_guidelines.shtml) was not found on this server.
[22:40] <diluted> Apache Server at freenode.net Port 80
[22:41] <sirriffsalot> "Not all updates can be installed".. any ideas?:P
[22:42] <tafelpoot> hi yall, I have following proble: I use approx for a local apt proxy but since a few weeks I see errors about Package.lzma which can't be found...
[22:42] <tafelpoot> anyone an idea about what is going wrong on my proxy?
[22:43] <tafelpoot> this file can't be found on the master of my server
[22:45] <jagginess> tafelpoot, is approx an english word?
[22:45] <jagginess> "approx for a local apt proxy" << huh?
[22:46] <jagginess> I think you mean you want to setup a proxy setting for apt
[22:47] <kisuke> ok i jsut updates and now my bluetooth adapter is disabled how can i find out why?
[22:48] <beejeebus> hi, reading this http://iloveubuntu.net/new-keyboard-shortcuts-landed-precise-pangolin
[22:48] <beejeebus> Ctrl + Super + Down should minimize the current window?
[22:48] <beejeebus> when i try it, no dice
[22:49] <beejeebus> instead, it only semi-minimizes if the current window is fullscreen
[22:49] <Boohbah> jagginess: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=approx
[22:49] <beejeebus> any pointers?
[22:49] <Boohbah> jagginess: caching proxy server for Debian archive files
[22:52] <beejeebus>  huh, seems to be a known bug
[22:52] <tyler_d> I have a system I am trying to remote to and somehow either the profile or the bashrc have become corrupted, how do I bypass all system variables when logging in via bash?
[22:52] <tyler_d> ssh rather
[22:53] <beejeebus> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/990723
[22:53] <beejeebus> sad panda, that's pretty basic keyboard functionality
[22:53] <sirriffsalot> "Not all updates can be installed".. trying to install some updates for Enlightenment any ideas?:P
[22:54] <afon33> hi, I'm back
[22:54] <beejeebus> samkottler: can you fix all the things for me?
[22:54] <Jon--atwork> Launched do-release-upgrade from CLI. Any way to get estimate of remaining time? I know GUI updater has one
[22:54] <afon33> One question: my laptop is about 5 years old. Is it advisable to install the latest version of ubuntu? Will it run smoothly?
[22:54] <samkottler> beejeebus: lol, how are you?
[22:55] <beejeebus> samkottler: ok. just hit this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/990723
[22:55] <OerHeks> afon33 test it in live mode
[22:55] <beejeebus> samkottler: how's it going with you?
[22:55] <afon33> ok
[22:55] <BlueChaos> jagginess,
[22:55] <afon33> is there any commor reason for a computer to start running from one day to another?
[22:55] <tafelpoot> jagginess: I am using approx... that is what I mean
[22:56] <afon33> *satrat running slowly*, sorry
[22:56] <samkottler> beejeebus: I just up voted it
[22:57] <tafelpoot> jagginess: I have an approx server which is a proxy (hmmm sounds ok ;-)) ... when it tries to get a package form a mirror... it tries to find Package.lzma but it does not find this package on the mirror (I have tried 2 seperate but correct ubuntu mirrors)
[22:58] <afon33> are 500 MB of ram enough for the latest version?
[22:58] <smw_> afon33, I would probably use xubuntu
[22:59] <tafelpoot> jagginess: http://bethesignal.org/blog/2009/04/13/approx-package-caching-ubuntu-debian-lovers/
[22:59] <afon33> what are the main limitations of xubuntu?
[23:01] <Jon--atwork> Launched do-release-upgrade from CLI. Any way to get estimate of remaining time? I know GUI updater has one
[23:01] <Jon--atwork> Might be stuck leaving my laptop at work tonight ^_^
[23:03] <Jon--atwork> Alternatively, can I sleep the laptop in the middle of an upgrade?
[23:03] <h00k> Jon--atwork: it's probably a bad idea
[23:04] <Jon--atwork> h00k, yeah, I'm thinking the same thing
[23:04] <Jon--atwork> I have no idea what the progress of this is though. Would be nice to have package x/y somewhere -_-
[23:05] <sheenams> i'm having issues running bwa in 12.04. can someone advise?
[23:12] <erratic> does anybody know anything about ubuntu, rsyslog/ommail module, and postfix
[23:12] <erratic> I cant get postfix to stfu talking to syslog
[23:12] <erratic> I cant get syslog to ignore postfix
[23:13] <erratic> but there's this! http://www.rsyslog.com/professional-services/
[23:13] <erratic> I think its a scam
[23:14] <Jordan_U> Jon--atwork: Have packages started installing or is it still in the downloading phase?
[23:15] <stef1a> why does my ubuntu 12.04 monitor auto-adjust the brightness when i switch between windows, and how can i stop this (i.e. keep a fixed brightness level)?
[23:15] <Jon--atwork> Jordan_U, They're installing, dling I'd just cancel ^_^
[23:16] <panigrc_> stef1a, it has to be your monitor not your ubuntu installation
[23:16] <erratic> THEY WONT TELL ME ANYTHING IN #RSYSLOG ITS OBVIOUSLY A SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:16] <panigrc_> stef1a, your monitor has probably dynamic contrast
[23:17] <panigrc_> and adjusts the contrast based on the content
[23:17] <sheenams> i'm having issues with the bwa package in 12.04. anyone able to help?
[23:17] <diluted> whats best irc client for Kubuntu?
[23:17] <stef1a> how do i change it?
[23:18] <Jordan_U> !best | diluted
[23:18] <diluted> hah nice
[23:19] <stef1a> panigrc_: how do i change it?
[23:19] <panigrc_> open the monitor menu , look for physical buttons at the edges of your monitor
[23:19] <h00k> stef1a: Your actual Monitor is changing/adjusting it's modes?
[23:20] <stef1a> h00k: yes
[23:20] <stef1a> is it possible to change it through the bios?
[23:21] <h00k> stef1a: As far as I know, that's the actual monitor doing that, not Ubuntu or the like, I wonder if there's some hardware issue with your monitor or cable
[23:22] <stef1a> h00k: I doubt it's an issue. Also, I'm using a laptop, and there are no buttons on my keyboard that would indicate anything about dynamic contrast.
[23:22] <nimrod10_> anyone had any luck with usb2vga in 12.04 ?
[23:23] <h00k> stef1a: oh, interesting. I've never heard of that. Perhaps someone else has protips.  What kind of graphics card do you have?
[23:23] <stef1a> h00k: actually, i just pressed a button; it may have worked. I'll have to give it some time
[23:23] <panigrc_> stef1a, if you wait then the monitor will lower its brightness for power saving
[23:24] <panigrc_> this can be changed from power settings
[23:24] <stef1a> panigrc_: no. it does it while i'm using it, not while the comp is idle
[23:24] <panigrc_> oh
[23:25] <stef1a> it just happened
[23:25] <stef1a> it's so weird... it only happens some of the time
[23:25] <Nikth> Hello everyone
[23:25] <h00k> stef1a: what do you have for a grapics card in there?
[23:25] <panigrc_> hi
[23:25] <stef1a> h00k: how do i check?
[23:26] <h00k> stef1a: open a terminal, check the output of 'lspci -v | grep VGA' I think should help
[23:26] <Nikth> Is there an option for someone to change the informations from central page of Ubuntu.com about local communities ?
[23:27] <h00k> Nikth: you can report that to !launchpad
[23:27] <h00k> Nikth: are you familiar with bug reporting?
[23:28] <stef1a> Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 9648
[23:28] <Nikth> I already send an e-mail to webmaster@ubuntu , but i don't know if this is the right way
[23:28] <h00k> !bug | Nikth you can report it against this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content
[23:28] <h00k> !bug | Nikth
[23:28] <h00k> Nikth: against https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content here
[23:29] <Nikth> h00k: no i am not , but i know someone who is..
[23:29] <Nikth> ok. Thank you very much h00k :)
[23:29] <h00k> Nikth: that guide may help :)
[23:32] <h00k> stef1a: Do you have the AMD drivers installed for you card?
[23:33] <parabyte> is there a ppc channel
[23:33] <h00k> stef1a: you can check "Additional Drivers" out, or !amd
[23:33] <Teth> phased particle cannon building is a rare hobby
[23:33] <h00k> !amd | stef1a
[23:33] <h00k> er.
[23:33] <h00k> !ati | stef1a
[23:34] <stef1a> h00k: i believe i do
[23:34] <jfroebe> anyone remember how to create a virtual nic that I can assign a mac address to?  when I create the entries in /etc/network/interfaces, it is complaining about the device not existing.
[23:35] <jfroebe> I ask because I have old software that looks at the mac address of the nic
[23:35] <rhomboetric> hi!
[23:35] <rhomboetric> anyone here using pamusb authentication?
[23:35] <jagginess> jfroebe, i highly doubt that
[23:35] <h00k> rhomboetric: just go ahead and ask the actual question, if anyone can answer, they'll try
[23:35] <BarkingFish> Morning all.  Quick question - I'd like to try and run both the kubuntu and ubuntu desktops from my system - some of my programs (one at least I know made for Gnome) don't work properly in KDE.  If you've actually done this, how do I switch between the GDM and KDM when I start up?
[23:35] <jfroebe> jagginess - I did it about 4 years ago but didn't keep notes
[23:35] <rhomboetric> i did the setup using the ubuntu wiki article
[23:36] <rhomboetric> configured a stick + a user and tested it, which worked
[23:36] <rhomboetric> but somehow, using sudo, the right password is entered wrong
[23:36] <jagginess> jfroebe, so you know what the problem is, but not the application name.. very suspicious
[23:36] <rhomboetric> content of the /etc/pamusb.conf:
[23:36] <rhomboetric> auth	[success=1 default=ignore]	pam_usb.so use_first_pass
[23:36] <rhomboetric> and
[23:36] <rhomboetric> auth	requisite	pam_unix.so nullok_secure
[23:36] <FloodBot1> rhomboetric: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:37] <rhomboetric> no, its just 2 lines
[23:37] <rhomboetric> no flooding ;)=
[23:37] <xangua> !paste | rhomboetric
[23:37] <BarkingFish> it wasn't 2 lines, it was 4 - posted too quickly for floodbot :)
[23:37] <jfroebe> jagginess - I'm talking about creating a virtual nic .. the old software is already installed and does work with 12.04
[23:37] <xangua> rhomboetric: yes you are, please don't do it again
[23:38] <jfroebe> using something like eth0:1 doesn't allow me to set a mac address
[23:38] <jagginess> jfroebe, so the software works except for virtual nics.. how do you know that software is not made for virtual nic/interfaces?
[23:38] <h00k> jfroebe: you can change your mac address with macchanger
[23:38] <h00k> !info macchanger | jfroebe
[23:38] <jagginess> uh
[23:38] <jfroebe> h00k - correct but it will change it on the physical nic
[23:39] <amelia_> Is there any easy way to roll back from an erorr-causing 12.04 install to 11.10? Or would I have to wipe the drive and put 11.10 on from scratch?
[23:39] <jagginess> h00k, more like a software configuration issue
[23:39] <BarkingFish> that's assuming your device allows you to change the mac address - some don't, especially USB wireless sticks
[23:39] <shubes> I'm attempting a dist upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 (mythbuntu), and am unable to reply to the whiptail prompts in the terminal window that some package configurations are showing (eg mysql-server, libc6). I was able to kill the whiptail process(es) to continue the upgrade, but there should be a simpler way. Anyone know anything about this?
[23:39] <jfroebe> the mac address is needed solely for verifying the license
[23:40] <escott> amelia_, downgrade is not supported
[23:40] <jfroebe> hope I'm making sense
[23:40] <jagginess> jfroebe, sounds like you're trying to run maya or something
[23:40] <jfroebe> close - Sybase :)
[23:41] <h00k> jfroebe: this may help, http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/04/how-to-quickly-create-multiple-virtual-network-interfaces-in-ubuntu/
[23:42] <r0b_-> why is USB slow in ubuntu 12.04?
[23:42] <jfroebe> h00k - unfortunately that doesn't let me set the mac address
[23:42] <r0b_-> same flashdrive in windows gets 30MB/s read 10MB/s write
[23:42] <jfroebe> even with macchanger
[23:42] <r0b_-> in linux i get 10MB/s read 3MB/s write
[23:42] <jagginess> h00k, article too old.. networkmanager is probably is overtaking ifdownup scripts on his system
[23:43] <h00k> I tried, anyway
[23:43] <r0b_-> anyone?
[23:43] <escott> r0b_-, how is it formated
[23:43] <r0b_-> fat
[23:44]  * r0b_- has tried NTFS and EXT3/5
[23:44] <r0b_-> 3/4
[23:44] <jagginess> r0b_-, thats weird..
[23:44] <r0b_-> its a 2.0 drive
[23:44] <jagginess> r0b_-, make sure 'High speed' is selected for usb in the bios
[23:44] <r0b_-> Ubuntu 12.04
[23:44] <r0b_-> im not a retard :-)
[23:44] <jfroebe> ah ha!  I did keep notes..  head*desk though.  It was in a virtual machine.. created a host only device with that particular mac address
[23:44] <BarkingFish> we didn't say you were
[23:44] <h00k> r0b_-: please pick a different pejorative
[23:44] <jagginess> r0b_-, not saying you are ..
[23:45] <jfroebe> I guess I could use lxc to create a host only device ... hmm
[23:45] <jfroebe> probably a better way anyways to isolate
[23:45] <r0b_-> sorry h00k i have been fighting for hours
[23:46] <jagginess> h00k, you were helping a dude trying to make a virtual nic in a VM. LOL
[23:46] <jagginess> jfroebe, you really love to suck out time dont ya
[23:47] <jfroebe> lol - no, I wasn't creating it in a vm this time - just 8 years ago
[23:47] <jagginess> that's what i meant.. you love to suck out time
[23:47] <jfroebe> good point :)
[23:47] <amelia_> Can anyone think of why a system error might be generated intermitterntly in 12.04? Seems there are quite a few entries in syslog and auth.log, some about x.org?
[23:47] <jagginess> time to upgrade your ubuntu
[23:48] <BarkingFish> amelia_: Could you paste up the contents of the syslog and auth.log on paste.ubuntu.com?
[23:48] <mr0wl> what's good PPA for the latest Firefox?
[23:48] <BarkingFish> It might give us some clues if we can see what errors are being generated
[23:49] <jagginess> amelia_, sounds like a problem with the video driver, you'll have to see if it says problems about KMS (mode setting) or something like it with nouveau.drm etc..
[23:49] <OerHeks> mr0wl, firefox stopped publishing tru PPA
[23:49] <BarkingFish> Speaking of pasting - do any of you here use Pastebinit?
[23:50] <amelia_> BarkingFish: not at this point, i'm afraid I don't have the machine to hand, it's one I maintain for mum. I've not been around when the error has come up, and nobody's been any help here when I have tried to ask - and I'm getting enough grief about it, I feel like rolling back to a fresh 11.10 install is the best bet - which is a shame, really
[23:50] <mr0wl> OerHeks: i recall some sort of initiative to include the latest releases, is that still valid?
[23:50] <xangua> mr0wl: no need for it, you should get the latest update if you mean firefox 13 in a couple of days
[23:50] <mr0wl> we just need to wait a bit?
[23:50] <jagginess> BarkingFish, pastebinit? the command?
[23:50] <BarkingFish> jagginess: yes
[23:50] <mr0wl> xangua: oh, okay the waiting game
[23:50] <mr0wl> thank you
[23:50] <xangua> mr0wl: the current version is still 12
[23:51] <BarkingFish> and amelia_ ok - no worries. If you could get the details of those logs, copy them to a usb pendrive or flashdrive, and upload them at your earliest convenience, we may be able to help.
[23:51] <jagginess> BarkingFish, sometimes, but I tend to use xclip
[23:51] <Guest2403> question: how could i install xfce on Kubuntu 5.04 powerpc?
[23:51] <BarkingFish> jagginess: I asked because it's not working properly for some people - I've spoken to several over the last few days for whom there's been an error message displayed
[23:51] <tugba_> if i accidently backed up my external hdd using dd command over my ntfs partition of my laptop hdd (laptop hdd has two partitions ext4 ubuntu and ntfs windows) and lost my windows system, is there a way to restore it back
[23:51] <xangua> Guest2403: using a supported version first
[23:52] <BarkingFish> it reads, "THIS API HAS BEEN DISABLED - Please use http://pastebin.com/api" or something similar
[23:52] <r0b_-> is there a way to see the transfer speed?
[23:52] <jagginess> BarkingFish, i remember once it didnt work for me, and a new release was available within a week or something... meanwhile i just use xclip
[23:52] <BarkingFish> It's not even working here
[23:53] <BarkingFish> and we don't have any updates yet, not that I've seen anyhow
[23:53] <jagginess> BarkingFish, you'll have to use the middlemouse button to paste on the webpage textbox.
[23:53] <tugba_> if i accidently backed up my external hdd using dd command over my ntfs partition of my laptop hdd (laptop hdd has two partitions ext4 ubuntu and ntfs windows) and lost my windows system, is there a way to restore it back
[23:53] <jagginess> BarkingFish, echo abc |xclip , (it's in the X's intrisic clipboard-- default is the middlemousebutton, not ctl-v)
[23:53] <escott> tugba_, restore it from your windows backup
[23:53] <BarkingFish> jagginess: I'm running CLI solo at the moment, due to my GUI being a right royal pain in the bottom
[23:54] <BarkingFish> so without pastebinit, or xclip, I'm reduced to trying to use paste.ubuntu.com in lynx, and that's not easy
[23:54] <jagginess> BarkingFish, so upload the text file..
[23:54] <BarkingFish> dang. I never thought of that.
[23:54] <tugba_> escott, which means i have to install again. so does dd works like fdisk?
[23:54]  * BarkingFish is a right plonker.
[23:55] <escott> tugba_, if you stopped the dd really really early you might have enough left to restore the partition table and fix the ntfs, but you overwrote the disk
[23:55] <jagginess> BarkingFish, on this one you can upload-- http://pastebin.ca/
[23:55] <mh0`> t/j ##linux
[23:56] <mh0`> whoopsies there
[23:56] <jagginess> tugba_, dd is nothing close to fdisk.. if you dont know what dd is, chances are you'll never use it
[23:57] <aaron_samuel> you can always just use man pages and get a grab of some tea/coffee and read them to know the differences also
[23:57] <jagginess> " if i accidently backed up my external hdd using dd command over my ntfs partition of my laptop hdd "
[23:57] <jagginess> don't use dd.
[23:57] <aaron_samuel> its really hard to confuse me - a sentence like that will do it
[23:57] <tugba_> jagginess, what i meant was dd does the same to its target drive (cleans everything inside) just like fdisk in order to back up from the source
[23:58] <jagginess> tugba_, if you didnt backup your data, that's not our problem..
[23:58] <aaron_samuel> no
[23:58] <aaron_samuel> fdisk doesn't do anything write partitions and list them
[23:58] <ApocGoD> Would someone be so kind as to walk me through setting up an SMTP server on Ubuntu 12.04?
[23:58] <aaron_samuel> dd copies in it's most simplest usage byte for byte from a block device to another block device
[23:58] <jagginess> tugba_, once you start overwriting a partition, that's it. you overwrite the "tables".. once you lose the tables.. then it's pretty much useless in trying to rebuild the table..
[23:58] <tugba_> jagginess, i have my back up but anyway i am not asking you to take it back. just trying to understand the action dd does to its target drive
[23:59] <aaron_samuel> copies bytes for bytes...
[23:59] <Gyges> BarkingFish, http://sprunge.us/
[23:59] <tugba_> jagginess, yes that is the answer
[23:59] <aaron_samuel> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1 bs=1M  would copy zero's to the sda1 partition