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WRStoneHrm ... something weird going on:  12.04, Chrome Stable, a few add-ons, mostly adblockers and a couple of tools to make my life a little easier.  I'm very careful about them.  This evening:  fired up Lubuntu, fired up Chrome, and now in random page backgrounds I'm getting a web site's logo.  Clearly some type of malware is altering otherwise white web page backgrounds with an ad for this site ... any suggestions?00:05
derpintinecan anyone help me customize the menu in lubuntu00:52
derpintinei switched from mint menu and i was wondering if i could use that instead of the standard debian menu?00:53
derpintinehello?00:53
wxli think it will pull in a bunch of gnome dependencies00:54
derpintineah, i was reading about that and figured the same thing, is there anyway i can edit the menu? or at least make it a little bigger?00:55
derpintinei installed ubuntu editor but obviously that only lets me edit what is on the list of applications, but not the actual menu itself00:55
wxlhm never tried to change the size but you could change the order and location and existence of items by editing files in /usr/share/applications00:55
wxlhttp://is.gd/rno38v00:55
surtHello folks!00:56
surtHow would I name mouse buttons other than left, right, up & down in ".config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml"? My mouse has...4 extra buttons that I want to bind to changing desktops...00:56
derpintineoh cool, so i can edit everything via text00:56
wxlso i have no clue how to change the size of the menu00:56
wxli think it's part and parcel of the plugin itself00:57
wxloutside of grabbing the source, editing the code, and recompiling i think there's no way00:57
derpintineawww, are there any other menu styles out there for lxde? or am i stuck with just one?00:57
wxlsurt: http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Bindings#Button00:58
wxlderpintine: the plugin comes with lxpanel so not that i'm aware of00:59
surtwxl: Thank you :)00:59
wxlderpintine: nope http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Main_Menu01:00
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WindBuntu /join # ubuntu01:29
WindBuntui do not want my display to go dim at all, ever how can i make lubuntu stop doing that i looked in power settings and it says never yet it still dims?01:43
WindBuntuhow do i rearrange my desktop icons back to perfect alignment to the grid?02:44
Unit193You highlight the icons you want, then you right click on one of them and you select from the menu that is popping to "Align to grid" and automatically they will align to grid.02:54
WindBuntuahh ty ill try that02:54
WindBuntui see a snap to grid?02:55
WindBuntubut that didnt put them back on the left side02:55
Unit193"Stick to current position" can't be checked.02:56
WindBuntuweird02:56
Unit193I'd bet it is.02:56
WindBuntuahhh ok02:56
WindBuntuty gotta charge this thing up brb02:58
surtlubuntu is pretty much awesome pretty much.04:07
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n1ckn4me09876543I haven't tested this but can a Windows 7 "network discovery"  see my Lubuntu and access my folders without my knowledge?04:49
surtit's probably obvious, or at least basic, but does anyone know why a fresh install of lubuntu 12.04 requires root permission to mount usb drives?04:59
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downbeamhow do you change files to iso without burning them?16:52
Unit193What do you mean?16:52
downbeamlike i have a zip or a rar file and i need it to be an iso16:53
smiledownbeam: you want to convert it to an iso? :)16:53
Unit193...That's not really how it works.16:53
Unit193You can burn them, but you can't make it bootable like that exactly.16:53
downbeamdoes anyone know how to play a playstation emulator?16:54
smiledownbeam: the files that are in the iso, do you want to change them? or collect all files?16:54
downbeami would like to package all the files to be 1 iso16:55
smiledownbeam: well, that's clear. :) I will help you in a moment, i first look up something for you16:56
downbeamk thanks dude16:56
smiledownbeam: this is a complete guide for making iso from files: http://www.wikihow.com/Create-an-ISO-File-in-Linux16:57
smileso you need this: mkisofs -o /tmp/cd.iso /tmp/directory/ (adapt it to your own needs)16:58
downbeamcan you download iso images anywhere?17:01
smiledownbeam: which iso images? :)17:01
downbeamones for the playstation'17:05
downbeamfor a playstation emulator17:05
smiledownbeam: i see. I don't know, since I'm not familiar with playstation iso images17:07
LAcan_hey i have the new 12.04 install cd but i cant figure out how to make encrypted partitions thru it like i could in 10 and 11?17:18
smileLAcan_: how did you do it in 11.10? :)17:19
LAcan_i chose encrypted volumes in the installer itself17:20
LAcan_when doing the partitioning bit17:20
smileLAcan_: and now it's gone?17:21
LAcan_ya the simplified installer in 12 doesnt have the encrypted volumes option17:22
LAcan_and its not the kind of thing u can do after the fact...17:22
Unit193You have to use the alternate for that.17:23
downbeamsmile is there anyway to convert files to .iso without burning?17:24
LAcan_unit193. .. the alternate??17:24
Unit193!alternate17:24
ubottuThe Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal17:24
smiledownbeam: yes, simple manner: try to zip the files and then convert it to iso :)17:24
LAcan_ty unit17:27
downbeamhow do you zip them... i have ark17:29
downbeamand i dont know how to convert them to iso without burning them17:30
JoTHI ALL!17:33
oCeanJoT: please stop using CAPS17:34
JoTOK!17:35
JoTno17:36
JoTWHY HERE?17:36
JoTWHO?17:36
leszekJoT: rule 1 in IRC if you don't want to be kicked is obey the rules17:36
JoTWTF? Why u said id and not want help me?17:38
JoTit17:38
JoTWHO have Lubuntu?17:38
Unit193Please just ask your question, if someone knows, they'll reply.17:39
JoTOK!17:41
JoTWho have Lubuntu 12.04?17:41
wxlJoT: many of us. what's your question?17:42
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JoTU too have many bugs In this version?17:43
wxlnope17:43
JoTMany different error17:43
wxlnot here17:43
JoTHow nope?17:43
wxlwhich ones you talking about?17:43
JoTU installed 12.4 Lubuntu?17:43
wxlheck, i'm running 12.10 right now and i have few bugs17:43
WindBuntu1210 is out??17:44
wxlnot officially17:44
leszekdevel17:44
wxlwhat he said17:44
JoTWhy Canonical produces poor and nonquality products?17:45
wxlcan't say my experience suggests that they do, JoT, but if you want to be more specific about your problem(s) then perhaps we can resolve them17:46
Unit193JoT: Do you have a support question?17:46
JoTLeszek u know developers of BEOS?17:46
wxlof course, this is linux, and you're welcome to produce your own distro :)17:46
leszekJoT: I know a few17:47
JoTI use now old version Lubuntu 11.1017:48
JoTBecause 12.04 have many bugs17:48
leszekJoT: Canonical does not produce ubuntu, lubuntu or any other linux distribution17:48
wxlWindBuntu: to more specifically answer your question about 12.10, here's the release schedule https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule17:48
wxlJoT: if you want help with those bugs, you'll have to say what they are. otherwise i'm going to go back to what i was doing.17:48
JoTleszek. ehm how not? And who produce Lubuntu?17:49
leszekJoT: are you here to flame or cry or do you have actually a real question on solving a bug or issue. And btw. if you think that there are too many bugs in 12.04 name them please and check if they are reported.17:49
WindBuntusheez i just got 120417:49
Unit193WindBuntu: It'll release in October.17:49
wxlWindBuntu: as soon as one's done basically development starts on the next one. 6 month schedule.17:49
leszekJoT: the lubuntu development team produces Lubuntu. Canonical is only donating the infrastructe17:49
WindBuntui was gonna keep this one for like a couple years17:50
leszek*infrastructure17:50
wxlWindBuntu: you can ;)17:50
WindBuntubut i feel like im behind the times17:50
wxldon't worry17:50
wxlyou can wait until it comes out17:50
WindBuntuthis one seems good17:51
wxlthere are those of us who are trying to make sure it comes out really nice when it comes out17:51
wxlthose of us who don't mind crushing bugs17:51
wxlunless you want to add that to your list of things to do with lubuntu, just enjoy the one you have! :)17:51
JoTleszek, hm Lubuntu non oficial distro?17:52
WindBuntulubuntu is official17:52
leszekJoT: it is official17:53
JoTleszek, All rights belong to Canonical Lubuntu YES?17:54
wxlhahahah17:54
Unit193JoT: Do you have a support question, yes or no?17:54
JoTAll rights on Lubuntu belong to Canonical?17:55
leszekJoT: no17:55
wxlnot at all17:55
leszekno rights on Lubuntu belong to canonical17:55
wxlbut that's a silly question for any piece of open source software17:55
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JoTleszek, Lubuntu a registered trademark?17:55
wxllxde, for example, is licensed under the gpl and the lgpl which actually provides a lot of rights17:55
wxlJoT: maybe you should try #unix ;)17:56
leszekJoT: as far as I know not. But canonical has a trademark on the *buntu term17:57
JoTleszek, In Ubuntu stringent licensing requirements. This is all very important.17:59
leszekJoT: the name isn't so important18:01
JoTFor example, you can not just take Ubuntu, and change the name OS on your own.18:01
JoTNo18:01
JoTits all important18:01
leszekJoT: ähm of course you can just look at linux mint, or just look at how ubuntu did it with debian :P18:01
leszekJoT: from a technical standpoint not18:02
leszekJoT: also notice Canonical never sued someone because of the name18:02
leszeklubuntu existed in many incarnations before it got a official go from canonical18:02
JoTBy law you can not use the Ubuntu logo and the registered name without permission. You can not even just copy the Ubuntu logo and you can not place it on your blog.18:04
JoTUbuntu does not necessarily apply to the court, the person may sue in his country without Ubuntu.18:05
Unit193JoT: I think we're done here, else see http://www.ubuntu.com/legal18:06
JoTUnit i know18:06
Unit193Then we are done here, thanks.18:06
JoTAnd also I have questions about the performance of Ubuntu and resource consumption.18:07
JoTWhy Lubuntu use 250 - 300 MB RAM memory?18:08
Unit193Because you have things open, mine has a few things open now and is only at 190.18:10
JoTUbuntu is classified as a fast operating system and low system requirements.18:10
JoTBut in reality it is not. Why not? In the future, developers fix it?18:11
holsteinJoT: not necessarily.. lubuntu is considered that though... maybe take this over to #lubuntu-offtopic ?18:11
wxlare you talking about ubuntu or lubuntu?18:11
wxlmaybe you should join #ubuntu and ask your questions there18:11
JoTLUBUNTU!18:12
wxlyou said ubuntu above18:12
wxlthere's a difference18:12
JoTITS GOOGLE TRANSLATE MODICICIED MY MESSAGE :(18:12
WindBuntu i want to have a ubuntu website18:12
wxlwhat do you consider a fast operating system?18:12
JoTmoDOFICIEd18:12
wxlwhat do you consider low system requirements?18:12
wxlhow do you quantify these things?18:13
Unit193JoT: Less caps, and what language do you speak?18:13
WindBuntusp4 and lower is low spec18:13
WindBuntup4 i meant18:13
wxlWindBuntu: well, we don't know his definition.18:13
JoTok18:13
wxlwhich is what his statements refer to18:13
holsteini consider p2 or p3 low spec personally18:13
JoTPuppu linus is fast OS18:14
JoTSlytaz too18:14
wxlhow do you quantify it? what can you measure to show it is fast?18:14
wxlfurthermore if you already found a solution, why do you want lubuntu?18:14
JoTSlitaz18:14
holsteinJoT: puppy loads in ram.. you can make a *buntu load into ram like that, but you sacirfice performance in other ways18:14
WindBuntulubuntu is great on p4 with a gig a ram18:15
WindBuntuand up18:15
JoTI use on pentium 4 now18:15
JoTAnd Lubuntu slow work here18:16
JoTAnd use many memory18:16
wxlthen use puppy or slitaz18:16
holsteini use on much lower specs than that18:16
wxlthen you're good, right?18:16
WindBuntubodhi is very fast18:16
holsteinyup.. acceptable to me.. i have realistic expectations though...18:16
bioterrortiny core all the way!18:16
JoTI want many new version programs18:16
WindBuntuxp pro will run on nuthin18:17
holsteinJoT: you can build them... you can build and use them on whatever OS you would like :)18:17
wxlexactly18:17
wxlthere's no reason you have to use lubuntu, JoT18:17
holsteintaking advantage of ubuntu/lubuntu's packages and package management means you take on the other things as well.. it either fits your needs or it doesnt18:17
JoTstop spam and flood please!!!18:18
holsteinJoT: check the channel you are posting in before hitting "enter"18:18
JoTleszek, YOU Here?18:19
wxli think the fact of the matter is, JoT, we'd love to help you, but don't think we can.18:19
holsteinJoT: if you dont mind, move this chat to #lubuntu-offtopic, and refrain from pinging users :) we need to keep the channel clear for support18:19
JoTJust Lubuntu Very slow now18:19
holsteinJoT: could be graphics driver related.. i have seen that happen on a few boxes18:20
leszekJoT: I am here18:21
WindBuntui like my lubuntu laptop i am on it now but i must admit it is only alil faster than ubuntu...i ran both on this same laptop, which is a dual core with 2 gigs ram and ATI.18:24
WindBuntuits seems to me that lubuntu should be WAY faster , it is faster, but not much.18:25
WindBuntuboth ubuntu and lubuntu will wipe out my battery in about 2.5 hours.18:25
bioterroryou dont even want to know how much longer it would last on Windows ;)18:26
WindBuntuwell i have w7, vista home prem, vista business, xp pro, xp home, w2000 and tons of linux installed on my computers so i know what you mean.18:27
WindBuntuw7 is very efficient onb battery18:28
WindBuntuon*18:28
WindBuntubut the all time greatest OS ever for needing low CPU and ram specs is.......18:28
bioterroryeah, I like18:28
WindBuntuxp pro18:28
WindBuntuxp will run on air18:28
WindBuntuits security is terrible but it will run on virtually nothing18:29
bioterroryeah, drop all the non-needed services and other small tweaks18:29
Unit193Might want to take this to -offtopic too though. :P18:29
bioterroror else? :D18:29
* WindBuntu zips his lips...18:29
Unit193:P18:29
smilelol. :p18:31
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