[00:05] <WRStone> Hrm ... something weird going on:  12.04, Chrome Stable, a few add-ons, mostly adblockers and a couple of tools to make my life a little easier.  I'm very careful about them.  This evening:  fired up Lubuntu, fired up Chrome, and now in random page backgrounds I'm getting a web site's logo.  Clearly some type of malware is altering otherwise white web page backgrounds with an ad for this site ... any suggestions?
[00:52] <derpintine> can anyone help me customize the menu in lubuntu
[00:53] <derpintine> i switched from mint menu and i was wondering if i could use that instead of the standard debian menu?
[00:53] <derpintine> hello?
[00:54] <wxl> i think it will pull in a bunch of gnome dependencies
[00:55] <derpintine> ah, i was reading about that and figured the same thing, is there anyway i can edit the menu? or at least make it a little bigger?
[00:55] <derpintine> i installed ubuntu editor but obviously that only lets me edit what is on the list of applications, but not the actual menu itself
[00:55] <wxl> hm never tried to change the size but you could change the order and location and existence of items by editing files in /usr/share/applications
[00:55] <wxl> http://is.gd/rno38v
[00:56] <surt> Hello folks!
[00:56] <surt> How would I name mouse buttons other than left, right, up & down in ".config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml"? My mouse has...4 extra buttons that I want to bind to changing desktops...
[00:56] <derpintine> oh cool, so i can edit everything via text
[00:56] <wxl> so i have no clue how to change the size of the menu
[00:57] <wxl> i think it's part and parcel of the plugin itself
[00:57] <wxl> outside of grabbing the source, editing the code, and recompiling i think there's no way
[00:57] <derpintine> awww, are there any other menu styles out there for lxde? or am i stuck with just one?
[00:58] <wxl> surt: http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Bindings#Button
[00:59] <wxl> derpintine: the plugin comes with lxpanel so not that i'm aware of
[00:59] <surt> wxl: Thank you :)
[01:00] <wxl> derpintine: nope http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Main_Menu
[01:29] <WindBuntu>  /join # ubuntu
[01:43] <WindBuntu> i do not want my display to go dim at all, ever how can i make lubuntu stop doing that i looked in power settings and it says never yet it still dims?
[02:44] <WindBuntu> how do i rearrange my desktop icons back to perfect alignment to the grid?
[02:54] <Unit193> You highlight the icons you want, then you right click on one of them and you select from the menu that is popping to "Align to grid" and automatically they will align to grid.
[02:54] <WindBuntu> ahh ty ill try that
[02:55] <WindBuntu> i see a snap to grid?
[02:55] <WindBuntu> but that didnt put them back on the left side
[02:56] <Unit193> "Stick to current position" can't be checked.
[02:56] <WindBuntu> weird
[02:56] <Unit193> I'd bet it is.
[02:56] <WindBuntu> ahhh ok
[02:58] <WindBuntu> ty gotta charge this thing up brb
[04:07] <surt> lubuntu is pretty much awesome pretty much.
[04:49] <n1ckn4me09876543> I haven't tested this but can a Windows 7 "network discovery"  see my Lubuntu and access my folders without my knowledge?
[04:59] <surt> it's probably obvious, or at least basic, but does anyone know why a fresh install of lubuntu 12.04 requires root permission to mount usb drives?
[15:45] <leszek> hi
[16:52] <downbeam> how do you change files to iso without burning them?
[16:52] <Unit193> What do you mean?
[16:53] <downbeam> like i have a zip or a rar file and i need it to be an iso
[16:53] <smile> downbeam: you want to convert it to an iso? :)
[16:53] <Unit193> ...That's not really how it works.
[16:53] <Unit193> You can burn them, but you can't make it bootable like that exactly.
[16:54] <downbeam> does anyone know how to play a playstation emulator?
[16:54] <smile> downbeam: the files that are in the iso, do you want to change them? or collect all files?
[16:55] <downbeam> i would like to package all the files to be 1 iso
[16:56] <smile> downbeam: well, that's clear. :) I will help you in a moment, i first look up something for you
[16:56] <downbeam> k thanks dude
[16:57] <smile> downbeam: this is a complete guide for making iso from files: http://www.wikihow.com/Create-an-ISO-File-in-Linux
[16:58] <smile> so you need this: mkisofs -o /tmp/cd.iso /tmp/directory/ (adapt it to your own needs)
[17:01] <downbeam> can you download iso images anywhere?
[17:01] <smile> downbeam: which iso images? :)
[17:05] <downbeam> ones for the playstation'
[17:05] <downbeam> for a playstation emulator
[17:07] <smile> downbeam: i see. I don't know, since I'm not familiar with playstation iso images
[17:18] <LAcan_> hey i have the new 12.04 install cd but i cant figure out how to make encrypted partitions thru it like i could in 10 and 11?
[17:19] <smile> LAcan_: how did you do it in 11.10? :)
[17:20] <LAcan_> i chose encrypted volumes in the installer itself
[17:20] <LAcan_> when doing the partitioning bit
[17:21] <smile> LAcan_: and now it's gone?
[17:22] <LAcan_> ya the simplified installer in 12 doesnt have the encrypted volumes option
[17:22] <LAcan_> and its not the kind of thing u can do after the fact...
[17:23] <Unit193> You have to use the alternate for that.
[17:24] <downbeam> smile is there anyway to convert files to .iso without burning?
[17:24] <LAcan_> unit193. .. the alternate??
[17:24] <Unit193> !alternate
[17:24] <smile> downbeam: yes, simple manner: try to zip the files and then convert it to iso :)
[17:27] <LAcan_> ty unit
[17:29] <downbeam> how do you zip them... i have ark
[17:30] <downbeam> and i dont know how to convert them to iso without burning them
[17:33] <JoT> HI ALL!
[17:34] <oCean> JoT: please stop using CAPS
[17:35] <JoT> OK!
[17:36] <JoT> no
[17:36] <JoT> WHY HERE?
[17:36] <JoT> WHO?
[17:36] <leszek> JoT: rule 1 in IRC if you don't want to be kicked is obey the rules
[17:38] <JoT> WTF? Why u said id and not want help me?
[17:38] <JoT> it
[17:38] <JoT> WHO have Lubuntu?
[17:39] <Unit193> Please just ask your question, if someone knows, they'll reply.
[17:41] <JoT> OK!
[17:41] <JoT> Who have Lubuntu 12.04?
[17:42] <wxl> JoT: many of us. what's your question?
[17:43] <JoT> U too have many bugs In this version?
[17:43] <wxl> nope
[17:43] <JoT> Many different error
[17:43] <wxl> not here
[17:43] <JoT> How nope?
[17:43] <wxl> which ones you talking about?
[17:43] <JoT> U installed 12.4 Lubuntu?
[17:43] <wxl> heck, i'm running 12.10 right now and i have few bugs
[17:44] <WindBuntu> 1210 is out??
[17:44] <wxl> not officially
[17:44] <leszek> devel
[17:44] <wxl> what he said
[17:45] <JoT> Why Canonical produces poor and nonquality products?
[17:46] <wxl> can't say my experience suggests that they do, JoT, but if you want to be more specific about your problem(s) then perhaps we can resolve them
[17:46] <Unit193> JoT: Do you have a support question?
[17:46] <JoT> Leszek u know developers of BEOS?
[17:46] <wxl> of course, this is linux, and you're welcome to produce your own distro :)
[17:47] <leszek> JoT: I know a few
[17:48] <JoT> I use now old version Lubuntu 11.10
[17:48] <JoT> Because 12.04 have many bugs
[17:48] <leszek> JoT: Canonical does not produce ubuntu, lubuntu or any other linux distribution
[17:48] <wxl> WindBuntu: to more specifically answer your question about 12.10, here's the release schedule https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[17:48] <wxl> JoT: if you want help with those bugs, you'll have to say what they are. otherwise i'm going to go back to what i was doing.
[17:49] <JoT> leszek. ehm how not? And who produce Lubuntu?
[17:49] <leszek> JoT: are you here to flame or cry or do you have actually a real question on solving a bug or issue. And btw. if you think that there are too many bugs in 12.04 name them please and check if they are reported.
[17:49] <WindBuntu> sheez i just got 1204
[17:49] <Unit193> WindBuntu: It'll release in October.
[17:49] <wxl> WindBuntu: as soon as one's done basically development starts on the next one. 6 month schedule.
[17:49] <leszek> JoT: the lubuntu development team produces Lubuntu. Canonical is only donating the infrastructe
[17:50] <WindBuntu> i was gonna keep this one for like a couple years
[17:50] <leszek> *infrastructure
[17:50] <wxl> WindBuntu: you can ;)
[17:50] <WindBuntu> but i feel like im behind the times
[17:50] <wxl> don't worry
[17:50] <wxl> you can wait until it comes out
[17:51] <WindBuntu> this one seems good
[17:51] <wxl> there are those of us who are trying to make sure it comes out really nice when it comes out
[17:51] <wxl> those of us who don't mind crushing bugs
[17:51] <wxl> unless you want to add that to your list of things to do with lubuntu, just enjoy the one you have! :)
[17:52] <JoT> leszek, hm Lubuntu non oficial distro?
[17:52] <WindBuntu> lubuntu is official
[17:53] <leszek> JoT: it is official
[17:54] <JoT> leszek, All rights belong to Canonical Lubuntu YES?
[17:54] <wxl> hahahah
[17:54] <Unit193> JoT: Do you have a support question, yes or no?
[17:55] <JoT> All rights on Lubuntu belong to Canonical?
[17:55] <leszek> JoT: no
[17:55] <wxl> not at all
[17:55] <leszek> no rights on Lubuntu belong to canonical
[17:55] <wxl> but that's a silly question for any piece of open source software
[17:55] <JoT> leszek, Lubuntu a registered trademark?
[17:55] <wxl> lxde, for example, is licensed under the gpl and the lgpl which actually provides a lot of rights
[17:56] <wxl> JoT: maybe you should try #unix ;)
[17:57] <leszek> JoT: as far as I know not. But canonical has a trademark on the *buntu term
[17:59] <JoT> leszek, In Ubuntu stringent licensing requirements. This is all very important.
[18:01] <leszek> JoT: the name isn't so important
[18:01] <JoT> For example, you can not just take Ubuntu, and change the name OS on your own.
[18:01] <JoT> No
[18:01] <JoT> its all important
[18:01] <leszek> JoT: ähm of course you can just look at linux mint, or just look at how ubuntu did it with debian :P
[18:02] <leszek> JoT: from a technical standpoint not
[18:02] <leszek> JoT: also notice Canonical never sued someone because of the name
[18:02] <leszek> lubuntu existed in many incarnations before it got a official go from canonical
[18:04] <JoT> By law you can not use the Ubuntu logo and the registered name without permission. You can not even just copy the Ubuntu logo and you can not place it on your blog.
[18:05] <JoT> Ubuntu does not necessarily apply to the court, the person may sue in his country without Ubuntu.
[18:06] <Unit193> JoT: I think we're done here, else see http://www.ubuntu.com/legal
[18:06] <JoT> Unit i know
[18:06] <Unit193> Then we are done here, thanks.
[18:07] <JoT> And also I have questions about the performance of Ubuntu and resource consumption.
[18:08] <JoT> Why Lubuntu use 250 - 300 MB RAM memory?
[18:10] <Unit193> Because you have things open, mine has a few things open now and is only at 190.
[18:10] <JoT> Ubuntu is classified as a fast operating system and low system requirements.
[18:11] <JoT> But in reality it is not. Why not? In the future, developers fix it?
[18:11] <holstein> JoT: not necessarily.. lubuntu is considered that though... maybe take this over to #lubuntu-offtopic ?
[18:11] <wxl> are you talking about ubuntu or lubuntu?
[18:11] <wxl> maybe you should join #ubuntu and ask your questions there
[18:12] <JoT> LUBUNTU!
[18:12] <wxl> you said ubuntu above
[18:12] <wxl> there's a difference
[18:12] <JoT> ITS GOOGLE TRANSLATE MODICICIED MY MESSAGE :(
[18:12] <WindBuntu>  i want to have a ubuntu website
[18:12] <wxl> what do you consider a fast operating system?
[18:12] <JoT> moDOFICIEd
[18:12] <wxl> what do you consider low system requirements?
[18:13] <wxl> how do you quantify these things?
[18:13] <Unit193> JoT: Less caps, and what language do you speak?
[18:13] <WindBuntu> sp4 and lower is low spec
[18:13] <WindBuntu> p4 i meant
[18:13] <wxl> WindBuntu: well, we don't know his definition.
[18:13] <JoT> ok
[18:13] <wxl> which is what his statements refer to
[18:13] <holstein> i consider p2 or p3 low spec personally
[18:14] <JoT> Puppu linus is fast OS
[18:14] <JoT> Slytaz too
[18:14] <wxl> how do you quantify it? what can you measure to show it is fast?
[18:14] <wxl> furthermore if you already found a solution, why do you want lubuntu?
[18:14] <JoT> Slitaz
[18:14] <holstein> JoT: puppy loads in ram.. you can make a *buntu load into ram like that, but you sacirfice performance in other ways
[18:15] <WindBuntu> lubuntu is great on p4 with a gig a ram
[18:15] <WindBuntu> and up
[18:15] <JoT> I use on pentium 4 now
[18:16] <JoT> And Lubuntu slow work here
[18:16] <JoT> And use many memory
[18:16] <wxl> then use puppy or slitaz
[18:16] <holstein> i use on much lower specs than that
[18:16] <wxl> then you're good, right?
[18:16] <WindBuntu> bodhi is very fast
[18:16] <holstein> yup.. acceptable to me.. i have realistic expectations though...
[18:16] <bioterror> tiny core all the way!
[18:16] <JoT> I want many new version programs
[18:17] <WindBuntu> xp pro will run on nuthin
[18:17] <holstein> JoT: you can build them... you can build and use them on whatever OS you would like :)
[18:17] <wxl> exactly
[18:17] <wxl> there's no reason you have to use lubuntu, JoT
[18:17] <holstein> taking advantage of ubuntu/lubuntu's packages and package management means you take on the other things as well.. it either fits your needs or it doesnt
[18:18] <JoT> stop spam and flood please!!!
[18:18] <holstein> JoT: check the channel you are posting in before hitting "enter"
[18:19] <JoT> leszek, YOU Here?
[18:19] <wxl> i think the fact of the matter is, JoT, we'd love to help you, but don't think we can.
[18:19] <holstein> JoT: if you dont mind, move this chat to #lubuntu-offtopic, and refrain from pinging users :) we need to keep the channel clear for support
[18:19] <JoT> Just Lubuntu Very slow now
[18:20] <holstein> JoT: could be graphics driver related.. i have seen that happen on a few boxes
[18:21] <leszek> JoT: I am here
[18:24] <WindBuntu> i like my lubuntu laptop i am on it now but i must admit it is only alil faster than ubuntu...i ran both on this same laptop, which is a dual core with 2 gigs ram and ATI.
[18:25] <WindBuntu> its seems to me that lubuntu should be WAY faster , it is faster, but not much.
[18:25] <WindBuntu> both ubuntu and lubuntu will wipe out my battery in about 2.5 hours.
[18:26] <bioterror> you dont even want to know how much longer it would last on Windows ;)
[18:27] <WindBuntu> well i have w7, vista home prem, vista business, xp pro, xp home, w2000 and tons of linux installed on my computers so i know what you mean.
[18:28] <WindBuntu> w7 is very efficient onb battery
[18:28] <WindBuntu> on*
[18:28] <WindBuntu> but the all time greatest OS ever for needing low CPU and ram specs is.......
[18:28] <bioterror> yeah, I like
[18:28] <WindBuntu> xp pro
[18:28] <WindBuntu> xp will run on air
[18:29] <WindBuntu> its security is terrible but it will run on virtually nothing
[18:29] <bioterror> yeah, drop all the non-needed services and other small tweaks
[18:29] <Unit193> Might want to take this to -offtopic too though. :P
[18:29] <bioterror> or else? :D
[18:29]  * WindBuntu zips his lips...
[18:29] <Unit193> :P
[18:31] <smile> lol. :p