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| smb | morning | 06:50 |
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| dileks | morning has broken, lalala | 06:55 |
| dileks | ahh, cat stevens | 06:56 |
| smb | Usually that is: Morning, I'm broken... :-P | 06:58 |
| dileks | I thought its mostly the software :-) | 07:01 |
| Nafallo | good morning :-) | 07:13 |
| smb | Nafallo, A visitor from the past or so... ;) | 07:22 |
| Nafallo | I never left the channels man :-) | 07:25 |
| Nafallo | but.. now I need to go to work ;-) | 07:25 |
| Nafallo | ttyl | 07:25 |
| smb | see you | 07:26 |
| smb | Nafallo, (and yeah but you know how invisible quiet people are) ;) | 07:26 |
| * apw yawns | 07:44 | |
| ppisati | moin | 07:52 |
| Nafallo | lol | 07:55 |
| tjaalton | when is the precise-proposed kernel released to -updates? | 08:18 |
| tjaalton | it has some drm/i915 fixes I'd like to get in | 08:18 |
| smb | tjaalton, Seems it might wait on cert | 08:24 |
| smb | So maybe next week? | 08:24 |
| tjaalton | smb: ok, thanks | 08:24 |
| henrix | yeah, it should be there next week | 08:24 |
| henrix | tjaalton: but you can test it before that :) | 08:25 |
| tjaalton | henrix: I've asked people to do that, bug 966631 and several dupe candidates :) | 08:25 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 966631 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[sandybridge-m-gt2] GPU lockup render.IPEHR: 0x7a000003 with Google Maps(WebGL) in Chromium" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/966631 | 08:25 |
| tjaalton | there are a couple of other commits too that have been verified elsewhere | 08:26 |
| tjaalton | fixing similar bugs | 08:26 |
| tjaalton | those can wait for the next iteration i guess | 08:26 |
| henrix | cool | 08:27 |
| tjaalton | btw, now that the wacom bamboo updates have been accepted adding intuos5 support is trivial (four commits). would that be accepted by the same criteria as the bamboo ones? | 08:30 |
| henrix | if these commits are in mainline, you may send them to the kernel-team ML. | 08:33 |
| tjaalton | yeah they got included in 3.5-rc1, missed the 3.4 queue because of a missing S-o-B :) | 08:34 |
| henrix | smb: any idea who's maintaining virtualbox? | 08:35 |
| smb | henrix, community (or virtualbox company)? What does changelog say? | 08:36 |
| henrix | smb: will check... | 08:36 |
| henrix | smb: yeah, it looks like its community supported | 08:36 |
| henrix | smb: there's a bug on it that's triggered by P in -proposed | 08:37 |
| smb | henrix, The dkms mod failing to compile due to some change? | 08:37 |
| henrix | smb: no, actually it prevents a shutdown: "unregister_netdevice: waiting for vboxnet0 to become free. Usage count = -1" | 08:38 |
| henrix | smb: it has been pointed out on the release tracking bug for the precise kernel | 08:38 |
| henrix | smb: not sure if this actually counts as a regression... | 08:39 |
| henrix | smb: bug #1009156 if you're curious :) | 08:39 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1009156 in linux "linux-3.2.0-25.40: unregister netdevice change breaks VirtualBox" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1009156 | 08:39 |
| smb | henrix, IMO I would retarget it to the virtualbox source package which likely produces the dkms which in turn creates the vboxnet module | 08:40 |
| henrix | smb: yeah, it's open against VB | 08:40 |
| henrix | smb: but the bug reporter commented on the tracking bug, that's how i found that bug | 08:41 |
| smb | Ah, ok. Is it obvious what change may have changed the netdev usage? | 08:42 |
| smb | The question is whether vbox relies on some broken assumption or whether the kernel changes something without knowing all implications. | 08:43 |
| henrix | yeah, there's a upstreams bug report and there's a patch for that already. | 08:43 |
| henrix | so, its just a matter of the maintainer picking this patch | 08:43 |
| smb | Ah ok... | 08:43 |
| henrix | basically, its a change in one of the core network apis... which is always a pain for OOT modules :) | 08:44 |
| smb | henrix, So the history looks like it (vbox) usually is just a syc from Debian | 08:44 |
| henrix | smb: how can you tell that? by the "unstable" in each entry? | 08:45 |
| smb | from the version number not having a ubuntux | 08:45 |
| henrix | ok :) | 08:45 |
| smb | But also looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/+publishinghistory | 08:45 |
| smb | Which usually has copied from debian x | 08:46 |
| henrix | ok, i'll check if this is fixed on debian | 08:46 |
| dileks | smb: are you still maintaining drm-backports to linux-2.6.32? | 08:46 |
| smb | dileks, Yes | 08:47 |
| dileks | good guy - you are | 08:47 |
| smb | henrix, In the history with the last upload to precise there is an uploader email address which you may contact | 08:48 |
| smb | dileks, Thanks. :) | 08:51 |
| dileks | smb: BTW, whats your position to kernel-drm vs. libdrm? note: some Xorg and kernel devs wanted it to be at one place | 08:52 |
| dileks | oh happy world IPv6 day :-) | 08:58 |
| dileks | http://www.worldipv6launch.org/ | 08:58 |
| smb | dileks, I do not really have a position there. Note that I maintain the tree (only). Which means adding patches that are asked to be added if the match stable change rules. I am as opinionated as any librarian: which is for the 2.6.32 tree not changing too much. ;) | 08:58 |
| dileks | best strategy for me in early kms days was - take all from GIT :-) linux-kernel, libdrm, mesa3d and xserver | 08:59 |
| apw | dileks, happy World IPv6 Launch Day indeed | 09:10 |
| dileks | hmm, German "Deutsche Telekom" seems to have IPv6 | 10:09 |
| dileks | https://labs.ripe.net/Members/emileaben/growth-in-ipv6-capable-dns-infrastructure | 10:09 |
| * ppisati -> out for lunch | 11:00 | |
| xnox | is there anything I can do, to help with bug 966248 | 11:36 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 966248 in linux "USB3.0 Ports Not Working" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/966248 | 11:36 |
| xnox | It affects me and Daviey =) | 11:36 |
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| apw | cooloney, are you really looking at the above bug ? ^^ | 12:05 |
| apw | xnox, i assume you have a precise kernel on there, and that this is new behaviour, can you work out which kernel it did work on before | 12:06 |
| xnox | apw: I have quantal kernel | 12:06 |
| apw | xnox, it seems the issue appeared in an update in precise, so if you can test 3.2.0-20.32 and config it is also broken, and then step backwards on the 3.2.0 kernels till it comes back that would help a lot | 12:08 |
| apw | s/config/confirm | 12:08 |
| xnox | apw: ok. so do a 'bisect' =) easy way to download all the kernels? | 12:09 |
| apw | they are all linked from the version page for the kernels, but easy probabally not | 12:09 |
| xnox | ok | 12:09 |
| apw | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux | 12:10 |
| apw | links at the top right to the publishing history | 12:10 |
| * henrix reboots | 12:29 | |
| [yates] | Hi all, is someone able to look at my acpitables.txt concerning bug #996782 ? | 12:36 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 996782 in linux "ACPI Errors" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/996782 | 12:36 |
| jwi | apw: is bug 974830 still on your radar? | 12:50 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 974830 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[sandybridge-m-gt2+] GPU lockup render.IPEHR: 0x78170003 using Oracle SQL Developer" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/974830 | 12:50 |
| apw | jwi, nope lost track of that one completely. will get the patch rebased and out for review | 12:57 |
| ppisati | is there a way to tell dpkg-buildpackage to skipabi? | 13:04 |
| ogra_ | yes, its documented in the kernel build wiki :P | 13:07 |
| ogra_ | some env var | 13:07 |
| ppisati | all the references i found used fakeroot not dpkg-... | 13:10 |
| ogra_ | the vars should be the same though as they should apply to the in-package scripts | 13:11 |
| cooloney | apw and xnox, yeah, I'm working that USB 3.0 regressions issue | 13:40 |
| xnox | cooloney: ok cool. thanks =) | 13:41 |
| cooloney | xnox: sure, i guess you have usb 3.0 hardware, right? as apw pointed out, could you please try the kernel on your hardware | 13:41 |
| cooloney | xnox: and let us know which one works and which one doesn't | 13:42 |
| xnox | cooloney: kernel(s). ok. | 13:42 |
| cooloney | xnox: i really appreciate you can provide such information for us bisect. and please update that in the launchpad page | 13:44 |
| xnox | cooloney: apw: the publishing history, timesout to render on lp.net due to trying to linkify all 2000 bugs. Is there any other way I can easily get version numbers directly? | 13:58 |
| xnox | linux-meta timesout as well... | 13:59 |
| cooloney | xnox: what's kind of version number you want to get? | 13:59 |
| xnox | cooloney: as per apw: 3.2.0-20.32 and going backwards. Does that mean integer decrements down to 20.1? | 13:59 |
| xnox | cooloney: stuff that ever got published in precise-* | 14:00 |
| cooloney | xnox: oh, lp is down, sh*t | 14:00 |
| apw | xnox, the last number is an upload number so it decrements, but there are not 32 -20 versions | 14:00 |
| xnox | cooloney: not down, it fails to render linux package publishing history =) | 14:00 |
| apw | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/info/kernel-version-map.html | 14:01 |
| xnox | If I grab the precise-proposed linux-meta, will the changelog show the version numbers? | 14:01 |
| apw | xnox, that above has the numbers which were valid | 14:01 |
| xnox | yeah! =) | 14:01 |
| xnox | apw: so I should work down the first table from 3.2.0-20.32? | 14:02 |
| apw | well assuming that that version fails yes ... | 14:03 |
| cooloney | xnox: so you can try 3.2.0-19.31, if it fails, then continue | 14:03 |
| cooloney | until you find a kernel works on your hardware with USB 3.0 | 14:04 |
| xnox | apw: cooloney: do we have a known version that did work with 3.0 usb hardware? maybe my laptop's usb3.0 didn't work, ever =) | 14:06 |
| xnox | then my bisect will be pointless | 14:06 |
| * xnox just got 3.0usb hardware in the mail | 14:06 | |
| cooloney | xnox: actually I'm not sure about this, how about try the first 3.2.0 ubuntu kernel firstly, we can shrink the range then | 14:07 |
| cooloney | xnox: 3.2.0-8.14 is the first 3.2.0 kernel in Ubuntu | 14:08 |
| xnox | ok | 14:08 |
| xnox | cooloney: minimal amount of packages that I need to install? | 14:09 |
| cooloney | xnox: simply just install linux-image- package is good enough to test | 14:11 |
| xnox | I'm going with generic image and generic headers | 14:11 |
| xnox | oh ok. | 14:11 |
| xnox | Thankfully that is a stable-ish url https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/linux-image-3.2.0-8-generic/3.2.0-8.14 | 14:12 |
| cooloney | xnox: that's great, just let us know the result. | 14:13 |
| * xnox reboot | 14:14 | |
| cooloney | in the bug 966248, kernel from 11.10 should works | 14:14 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 966248 in linux "USB3.0 Ports Not Working" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/966248 | 14:14 |
| cooloney | so maybe you can try that kernel if 3.2.0-8.14 doesn't | 14:15 |
| cooloney | work | 14:15 |
| cooloney | xnox: did it work? | 14:44 |
| xnox | cooloney: so 3.2.0-8.14 works. I am in a meeting now. will do reboots after the meeting. | 15:00 |
| * ogasawara back in 20 | 15:01 | |
| cooloney | xnox: great, thanks a lot. i have to go to sleep. please help to update LP | 15:16 |
| apw | bjf, just a heads up i am doing the P highbank config review, so it'd be nice to not have any change in configs | 15:35 |
| bjf | apw, ack | 15:35 |
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| * ppisati -> gym | 16:07 | |
| tjaalton | is it possible to squeeze individual fixes in the precise-proposed kernel before it hits -updates next week? | 16:07 |
| henrix | tjaalton: usually these are queued into master-next branch, unless they are critical/security fixes i guess... | 16:10 |
| henrix | bjf: ^ | 16:10 |
| tjaalton | for instance 80e829fade4e for bug 974830 has been confirmed quite some time ago | 16:10 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 974830 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[sandybridge-m-gt2+] GPU lockup render.IPEHR: 0x78170003 using Oracle SQL Developer" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/974830 | 16:10 |
| henrix | tjaalton: at the moment we have 2 days left for adding these fixes and going through packaging, testing, certification, etc again... | 16:12 |
| henrix | tjaalton: these fixes could be queued for next cycle and in 3 weeks they would be out in -updates | 16:13 |
| tjaalton | henrix: hmm ok, maybe that wouldn't be too far then | 16:13 |
| henrix | tjaalton: anyway, you may try to convince bjf that these fixes *really* need to go in this cycle :) | 16:13 |
| tjaalton | debian might go for drm from 3.4 :) | 16:13 |
| tjaalton | but that ship has sailed | 16:14 |
| tjaalton | henrix: ok, well maybe having some more time wouldn't hurt here | 16:16 |
| bjf | tjaalton: no, and you are close to missing the window for the next cycle | 16:19 |
| tjaalton | bjf: ok, when does it close? | 16:19 |
| bjf | tjaalton: we will start preping the next series of kernels next week | 16:20 |
| tjaalton | ok, there is now that one commit that has been verified being good, and two others that upstream says are good but not verified by the reporters yet | 16:21 |
| tjaalton | what is the procedure to get them in the next batch? | 16:21 |
| tjaalton | cherry-pick email on the list+ | 16:22 |
| tjaalton | ? | 16:22 |
| bjf | tjaalton: there is a SRU format for patch requests ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/StablePatchFormat | 16:22 |
| tjaalton | ok, probably going via the stable queue/release would take too long? | 16:23 |
| tjaalton | i mean 3.2-stable | 16:23 |
| bjf | tjaalton: you should make the effort to request inclusion of the patches by upstream stable | 16:24 |
| tjaalton | yeah I'll do that regardless | 16:25 |
| bjf | tjaalton, also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelUpdates | 16:26 |
| tjaalton | bjf: yeah, I realized my intuos5 cherry-pick email cut corners in various ways ;) | 16:28 |
| bjf | tjaalton, if we know ahead of time that you have something that you are trying to get into the next cadence cycle, we can delay the prep to the end of the week | 16:28 |
| tjaalton | yeah, I'll rebase my branch on top of -next and see how it works | 16:30 |
| jsalisbury | sforshee, Do you happen to have the type of hardware mentioned in bug 1006427 | 16:37 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1006427 in linux "(PowerBookG4) Live image won't boot, stuck on "stdin: Not a typewriter"" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006427 | 16:37 |
| ogra_ | haha, entertaining error message though | 16:43 |
| sforshee | jsalisbury, no, all the mac kit I have uses intel | 16:43 |
| jsalisbury | sforshee, ahh, ok. thanks | 16:43 |
| BenC | What kernel are you guys pushing for in quantal? | 16:59 |
| ogasawara | BenC: at least the 3.5 kernel, maybe 3.6 if the timing is right | 16:59 |
| ogra_ | 3.5 at least ...probably 3.6 if its there in time | 16:59 |
| ogra_ | snap :) | 16:59 |
| BenC | Nicely done :) | 16:59 |
| ogasawara | heh | 17:00 |
| BenC | Who handles the ports side of things? | 17:00 |
| BenC | IOW, powerpc | 17:00 |
| BenC | I want to get a new flavour and it's relevant patches added to the build for quantal | 17:00 |
| BenC | *its | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | BenC: it's technically in our tree but supposed to be community maintained/supported | 17:02 |
| BenC | Right, I want to be that community :) | 17:02 |
| BenC | Didn't know if there was a goto person for the powerpc kernel stuff | 17:03 |
| BenC | If not, then I'll be that person | 17:03 |
| ogasawara | BenC: no go to person that I'm aware of atm. | 17:03 |
| jussi | benc please! power PC has been missing leadership in an area for ages (IMHO) | 17:04 |
| BenC | Luckily, I won't be doing this as a community person…it's part of my job to get this stuff integrated, so I'll be able to devote a good bit of time toward it | 17:05 |
| jussi | BenC excellent :-) | 17:06 |
| * henrix will be back in ~30min | 17:27 | |
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| * bjf -> dentist | 18:34 | |
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| bjf | ogasawara: around ? | 21:55 |
| jkyle | If I want the most recent, stable kernel would this be the recommended way, or just rolling my own? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.4-precise/ | 23:23 |
| bjf | jkyle: ht emost recent, stable kernel is in Precise | 23:30 |
| bjf | jkyle: if you are looking for the most recent, stable upstream kernel, then yes, that probably is a good one | 23:31 |
| jwi | 3.4.1 would be an even better one | 23:32 |
| dileks | looks like the one for quantal is built on a precise host | 23:33 |
| dileks | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.4.1-quantal/BUILT | 23:33 |
| bjf | in <version>-<series> i believe the <series> indicates the ubuntu series the configuration was taken from | 23:34 |
| bjf | so v3.4-precise used the precise config, v3.4.1-quantal used the quantal config | 23:34 |
| dileks | OK | 23:36 |
| dileks | make: *** No rule to make target `build-generic-pae'. Stop. | 23:36 |
| dileks | make: *** No rule to make target `binary-generic-pae'. Stop. | 23:36 |
| dileks | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.4.1-quantal/BUILD.LOG | 23:37 |
| dileks | wasnt -pae flavour dropped for Q? | 23:37 |
| bjf | dileks, i believe so because we don't support non-pae any more | 23:37 |
| dileks | might be a relict in the build-script | 23:38 |
| bjf | could be | 23:39 |
| dileks | apw: ^^ | 23:39 |
| bjf | 3c06c9edb79d2c887d26b3977c183a2392700209 UBUNTU: [Config] Collapsed generic-pae into generic [i386] | 23:42 |
| bjf | dileks, ^ | 23:42 |
| dileks | normally an UP machine can use a kernel with PAE support enabled, but I think the upgrade hook-script will not allow an installation | 23:44 |
| jkyle | jwi: yeah, 3.4.1 would need to be hand rolled though eh? | 23:48 |
| jwi | jkyle: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.4.1-quantal/ | 23:49 |
| jwi | (better install that -extra package as well though :o)) | 23:50 |
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