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| MohamedAlaa98 | hello guys :) | 13:58 |
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| MohamedAlaa98 | When will be the next meeting? | 13:58 |
| phillw | qa meeting due nowish :) | 14:00 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | sorry? | 14:00 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | I mean the ubuntu membership meeting> | 14:01 |
| phillw | MohamedAlaa98: I know they recently changed the structure. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership has the full details. | 14:02 |
| balloons | aloha everyone! | 14:02 |
| phillw | hi balloons | 14:02 |
| balloons | let's have at it | 14:03 |
| balloons | #startmeeting ubuntu qa community | 14:03 |
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| balloons | Ok, let's do a quick role call and see who's around | 14:03 |
| phillw | o/ | 14:03 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | me :) | 14:04 |
| balloons | excellent :-) | 14:05 |
| balloons | I can only assume everyone else is iso testing :-) | 14:05 |
| balloons | [TOPIC] Previous Actions | 14:05 |
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| balloons | I don't believe we have any | 14:06 |
| balloons | [TOPIC] Ubuntu Updates | 14:07 |
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| balloons | So, I wonder if gema is around | 14:07 |
| balloons | the UK has had a bit of a holiday and long weekend | 14:08 |
| phillw | we're all supposed to be back today :) | 14:08 |
| pitti | in general she is | 14:08 |
| balloons | that's right.. everyone is back today :-) | 14:08 |
| balloons | We'll move on for the moment to the flavors I think | 14:09 |
| balloons | [TOPIC] Ubuntu Flavor Updates | 14:09 |
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| balloons | phillw, why don't you start us off -- and is your successor around? | 14:09 |
| phillw | my successor has not agreed to the role - so you're stuck with me :P | 14:10 |
| balloons | :p | 14:10 |
| phillw | testing seems okay. a few minor niggles. One thing that is causing concern is that there does not appear to be a browser for ppc builds in 12.10 (they used Ffox in 12.04). | 14:11 |
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| MohamedAlaa98 | I'm still here :) | 14:11 |
| balloons | phillw, what do you mean no browser? | 14:12 |
| phillw | no Chromium (never was ppc) but no Ffox either this time. | 14:12 |
| balloons | aka, there's no ppc build for ffox.. | 14:12 |
| phillw | http://launchpad.net/bugs/1008975 | 14:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1008975 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Firefox and Chromium missing from powerpc live cd image" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 14:12 |
| balloons | did they drop support on ff's end? | 14:12 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | quit | 14:13 |
| phillw | idk, I was made aware of it a couple of days ago. The lubuntu-qa team is in discussion with Julien, but I guess it would affect all of the ppc builds? | 14:13 |
| balloons | seems like it does https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=691898 | 14:14 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 691898 in JavaScript Engine "Use YARR interpreter instead of PCRE on platforms where YARR JIT is not supported, since PCRE doesnt build" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 14:14 |
| balloons | anyways, it looks like they fixed the issue, so it should be possible to build on ppc again with there code changes | 14:15 |
| phillw | excellent news, i will communicate it to the testers :) | 14:15 |
| balloons | well, julien linked to the ubuntu bug, which is still pending | 14:16 |
| phillw | how do we go about getting it into 12.10? | 14:16 |
| balloons | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/987421 | 14:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 987421 in thunderbird (Ubuntu Quantal) "Firefox/Thunderbird 12 FTBFS on powerpc" [Medium,Triaged] | 14:16 |
| phillw | okies, I'll leave it in Juliens' capable hands :) | 14:17 |
| balloons | :-) | 14:17 |
| balloons | the good news is it CAN be fixed, how's that? | 14:17 |
| balloons | anything else to report? | 14:17 |
| phillw | nope. I'm done :) | 14:18 |
| balloons | thanks phillw | 14:18 |
| balloons | and as always, thanks to all the lubuntu QA team -- you guys are doing good work again on alpha one :-) | 14:18 |
| balloons | alright, do we have someone from xubuntu? | 14:19 |
| balloons | astraljava, you about? | 14:21 |
| balloons | how about ubuntu studio? | 14:21 |
| balloons | Well I can give the update for both that they are not participating in alpha 1.. | 14:22 |
| balloons | anyone around for kubuntu? | 14:22 |
| balloons | They too are not issuing iso's for alpha 1 | 14:22 |
| Riddell | mm? | 14:23 |
| Riddell | I'm testing alpha 1 right now | 14:23 |
| balloons | err.. sorry Riddell | 14:23 |
| balloons | yes, not the full suite of images.. just the desktop for alpha 1 | 14:24 |
| balloons | correct? | 14:24 |
| Riddell | right, which will probably become the full suite of images | 14:24 |
| balloons | great, anything else to report -- how's the testing going? | 14:25 |
| Riddell | pleasingly well | 14:25 |
| balloons | anything else to add? | 14:26 |
| Riddell | not just now | 14:26 |
| balloons | that's great news.. I hope it's smooth sailing for you :-) | 14:26 |
| balloons | Alright, finally mythbuntu, which isn't pushing out a DVD for alpha 1 | 14:27 |
| balloons | [TOPIC] Other Updates | 14:28 |
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| balloons | I suppose I shall fill in then for updates for ubuntu | 14:28 |
| balloons | As everyone knows, it's alpha 1 testing time | 14:28 |
| balloons | we've had a few respins already, fixing some kernel bugs and other issues | 14:29 |
| balloons | the following caused respins: | 14:30 |
| balloons | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-base/+bug/1006717 | 14:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1006717 in The Eilt project "[MIR] linux-base" [High,New] | 14:30 |
| balloons | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1008898 | 14:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1008898 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) "crash after inserting wireless password" [High,Fix released] | 14:30 |
| balloons | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1008905 | 14:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1008905 in linux (Ubuntu Quantal) "Quantal Desktop AMD64+Mac on MacMini: BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 00000000000000a0" [High,Fix released] | 14:30 |
| balloons | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/isc-dhcp/+bug/1006937 | 14:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1006937 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu) "dhclient does not send hostname to dhcp-server" [Undecided,Fix released] | 14:31 |
| balloons | thanks to everyone testing on alpha 1 and helping find and sort out these issues | 14:31 |
| balloons | Updates from me: | 14:32 |
| balloons | working on the first call for testing to be announced tomorrow -- we'll be testing the 12.10 kernel on 12.04 and using the qatracker to do it :-) | 14:32 |
| balloons | working with popey to understand how unity testing will happen this cycle | 14:33 |
| balloons | and meeting with the hexr team to understand how we can roll out a community hardware database using HEXR | 14:34 |
| balloons | Anyone else have a question or update they'd like to share? | 14:34 |
| phillw | o/ | 14:34 |
| balloons | go ahead | 14:34 |
| phillw | do you have the link to the area where the devs flag up what is being considered to cause a respin. It was an excellent resource last time :) | 14:35 |
| balloons | phillw, sure | 14:37 |
| phillw | afaik, no one dared edit anything on it last cycle from lubuntu-qa :) | 14:37 |
| balloons | hehe :-) | 14:37 |
| balloons | yes, also I was just checking, but the build notes for the iso's should contain the same information | 14:38 |
| balloons | I'm not sure I'm seeing such things, so that's something for me to follow-up with | 14:39 |
| balloons | alright, anything else? | 14:39 |
| balloons | if not, we're finishing up early :-) | 14:39 |
| jibel | o/ | 14:39 |
| balloons | jibel, go ahead | 14:40 |
| jibel | about quantal alpha 1 testing | 14:40 |
| jibel | as you said we've had a few respins already | 14:40 |
| jibel | I'd just like to mention that there is a build in progress of ubuntu desktop | 14:40 |
| jibel | and new images will be published in 1h or so | 14:41 |
| balloons | jibel, ohh really? ahh | 14:41 |
| jibel | so stay tuned on #ubuntu-testing to help us review these images | 14:41 |
| balloons | I just synced and was surprised nothing new came in overnight | 14:41 |
| jibel | balloons, really | 14:41 |
| jibel | we need tests on HW with wireless and Macs | 14:41 |
| jibel | but review on VM won't hurt :) | 14:42 |
| balloons | your bugfix is landing for the mac mini? | 14:42 |
| jibel | yep, new kernel to fix a bug with B43 wireless cards | 14:42 |
| jibel | and fix in Ubiquity to workaround a bug in python3 | 14:43 |
| jibel | that's all from me | 14:43 |
| jibel | .. | 14:43 |
| balloons | thanks jibel ! | 14:43 |
| balloons | ok, everyone thanks for coming out.. happy testing | 14:43 |
| balloons | #endmeeting | 14:44 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Wed Jun 6 14:44:02 2012 UTC. | 14:44 |
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| infinity | o/ | 15:00 |
| * slangasek waves | 15:00 | |
| slangasek | #startmeeting | 15:01 |
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| ogra_ | moop | 15:01 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] lightning round | 15:02 |
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| * xnox turns off countdown theme tune | 15:02 | |
| slangasek | $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek ogra infinity cjwatson xnox stokachu) | 15:02 |
| slangasek | ogra ev stokachu stgraber slangasek xnox cjwatson bdmurray infinity doko barry jodh | 15:02 |
| highvoltage | nice | 15:02 |
| ogra_ | geez, i'm first ! | 15:02 |
| ogra_ | done: | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | * flash-kernel fixes and merges and more findings for more fixes and merges next | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | week | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | * image tests ... and more image tests.. and even more ahead | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | * researching image build issues | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | * discovered a bunch of bugs with the recent panda kernels and worked with paolo on them | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | todo: | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | * corpus christi tomorrow in my state (not all of germany has it as a bank holiday, my state does though) | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | * fix live-build to actually produce ac100 images with the new flash-kernel | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | * finally switch to live arm images now that A1 is done | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | * look into how to integrate flash-kernel into debian-cd to make images bootable | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | * upload pending merges | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | .. | 15:03 |
| ev | pass (still typing) | 15:03 |
| xnox | stokachu: has been working hard this week as well?! | 15:04 |
| slangasek | stokachu: hiya :) anything you'd like to share re: this week's activity? (autofs, autofs, and more autofs) | 15:04 |
| xnox | slangasek: there was dpatch envolved as well =) | 15:04 |
| slangasek | stgraber: go ahead | 15:06 |
| stgraber | - SRU | 15:06 |
| stgraber | - Went through the list of pending SRUs for Precise and helped verify these that didn't need any weird setup | 15:06 |
| stgraber | - First 12.04.1 team meeting, worked on team wiki page, announced team on mailing-lists | 15:06 |
| stgraber | - While testing LXC nesting, found a pretty nasty bug in euca2ools (making /etc/ssl/certs a static file if installed before openssl), fixed and SRUed | 15:06 |
| stgraber | - Release | 15:06 |
| stgraber | - Quick training on cdimage handling and alpha-1 preparing with Kate | 15:06 |
| stgraber | - Alpha-1 preparation | 15:06 |
| stgraber | - Tracked down a python3-dbus bug making the installer crash when connecting to wifi, worked around for alpha-1, fix is now upstream | 15:06 |
| stgraber | - Containers | 15:06 |
| stgraber | - Added LXC backend to auto-upgrade-testing | 15:06 |
| stgraber | - Implemented early version of the python module, currently wrapping the C commands, will be ported to liblxc soon | 15:06 |
| stgraber | - Started testing LXC's SRU, found a bug, fixed in quantal and SRUed the fix | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - ISO tracker | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - New roles for product management and testcase management | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - Add a new buginstruction text field to products | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - Improve ACL checking | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - Some more work on testsuites management, moving columns between tables, updating UI | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - Other | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - Booked flights to Plumbers | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - TODO this week | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - More alpha-1 fun | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - Continue with ISO tracker changes based on the list from QA and work items | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - Continue going through the pending-sru and help for these that are stuck on verification-needed | 15:07 |
| stgraber | - Look at the isc-dhcp SRU for Oneiric (asked for some information in the bug) | 15:07 |
| stgraber | (DONE) | 15:07 |
| slangasek | ev: ready yet? | 15:07 |
| ev | yes | 15:08 |
| ev | - Very short week. Packing Millbank desk for Blue Fin move on Thursday, party | 15:08 |
| ev | on Sunday, public holiday Monday and Tuesday. | 15:08 |
| ev | - Mail to Andy, Martin, and James Westby on a plan for how we can get the | 15:08 |
| ev | kernel crash collecting work finished and reporting to errors.ubuntu.com. | 15:08 |
| ev | - Wrote debugging guide for whoopsie-daisy: | 15:08 |
| ev | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker/Debugging | 15:08 |
| ev | - Uploaded a new Wubi for 12.10. | 15:08 |
| ev | - Worked in some performance improvements to errors.ubuntu.com requested by | 15:08 |
| ev | webops. We've been seeing some timeouts getting hit by some of the | 15:08 |
| ev | components talking to Cassandra. As we don't have statsd and Graphite up yet | 15:08 |
| ev | (RT awaiting action from webops), I can only pick at low hanging fruit. This | 15:08 |
| ev | change moves from getting a column count from several wide rows (which reads | 15:08 |
| ev | the entire row into memory) for the "average crashes per user" graph to | 15:08 |
| ev | using counters. | 15:08 |
| ev | - Added txstatsd and Graphite code to lp:errors and lp:daisy. Added JMX to | 15:08 |
| ev | Graphite via JMXTrans. The latter gives us Cassandra operational stats in | 15:08 |
| ev | Graphite. None of this is deployed yet as we need a new Graphite server | 15:08 |
| ev | (RT #53325). | 15:08 |
| ev | - Some clean up of the tastypie branch of lp:errors on advice from James | 15:08 |
| ev | Westby. Now implements the list protocol to provide lazy evalution of the | 15:08 |
| ev | query, emulating behavior found in evil ORMs. | 15:08 |
| ev | - More discussion with Martin around uniting the Launchpad and crashdb | 15:08 |
| ev | retracers. | 15:08 |
| ev | (done) | 15:08 |
| slangasek | good thing it's a short week ;) | 15:08 |
| ev | heh | 15:08 |
| ev | - Read on Wandsworth Common | 15:10 |
| ev | - Played catch with the dog | 15:10 |
| ev | - Watched pretty much the entire running of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia on Netflix | 15:10 |
| ev | (done) | 15:10 |
| ogra_ | legally ? | 15:10 |
| ev | ogra_: it is not yet illegal to play catch on the common | 15:10 |
| infinity | How do you illegally play catch with a dog? | 15:10 |
| ogra_ | ha | 15:10 |
| slangasek | * lining up the python3 sprint | 15:11 |
| slangasek | * DebConf planning | 15:11 |
| slangasek | * discovered a lingering startup issue with rpcbind/statd/nis; fix in progress (bug #1007293) | 15:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1007293 in rpcbind (Ubuntu Precise) "nis doesn't work anymore after upgrade to 12.04" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1007293 | 15:11 |
| slangasek | * SRU processing, and some verification (update-notifier, rpcbind) | 15:11 |
| slangasek | (done) | 15:11 |
| njin | who win, the dog ? | 15:11 |
| slangasek | * helping here and there with A1 release this week | 15:11 |
| ev | njin: always | 15:11 |
| njin | Hurra for the dog | 15:12 |
| slangasek | xnox: | 15:12 |
| xnox | * autofs merge is in progress, some patches accepted into debian | 15:12 |
| xnox | * applied for core-dev, due on 18th of June | 15:12 |
| xnox | * working on foundations-q-ubiquity-lvm-luks, attempting to pre-seed now | 15:12 |
| xnox | * mpt is working on the luks design (no mockups yet) | 15:12 |
| xnox | * got quad hdd usb3.0 dock, helping kernel team to bisect when we lost | 15:12 |
| xnox | 3.0 support in kernel cause I have the | 15:12 |
| xnox | hardware. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/966248 | 15:12 |
| xnox | * short week due to queen's diamond jubilee | 15:12 |
| xnox | * this week: ubiquity, ubiquity, ubiquity... | 15:12 |
| xnox | * during other days did boost1.49, offlineimap, usb-creator for | 15:12 |
| xnox | debian work, visited canonical offices. | 15:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 966248 in linux (Ubuntu) "USB3.0 Ports Not Working" [Medium,Confirmed] | 15:12 |
| slangasek | xnox: do you know an eta from mpt for the mockups? | 15:13 |
| xnox | slangasek: no. | 15:13 |
| slangasek | ok | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | Three-day week due to public holidays. (Hid up north and pretended not to be British.) | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | Wrote an API client for removing packages and killed off the old shell-access-only script. | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | Landed PaS parsing fix for any-arm. | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | Fixed ubiquity bug 1003443 which was breaking automatic tests. | 15:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1003443 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) "Ubuntu Quantal Desktop 20120523 failed to install: ubi-timezone failed with exit code 2" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1003443 | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | Added syslinux-themes-ubuntu-quantal package to fix Chinese edition image builds. | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | Attempted to fix up update-manager following work on relative imports; unfortunately I ran out of time and Michael had to clean up after me. | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | *Just* managed to get https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/queue-api/+merge/108967 in for review, which should be enough to allow moving queue to an API client. | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | .. | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | investigation into the fix for bug 346386 not working in Precise | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | queried for foundations bugs with the most duplicates that are actively receiving dupes | 15:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 346386 in apt (Ubuntu Natty) "[MASTER] Update fails with invalid package files with "Encountered a section with no Package: header"" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/346386 | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | review of foundations team bugs with the most duplicates | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | wrote json reader / alerter for spikes in bug volume e.g. recent-package-bugs | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | modified bug bot not to modify precise bugs saying they need a new update-initramfs | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | modified search-bugs in ubuntu-bugpatterns to copy tags from duplicate to the master bug | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | wrote lp-bug-dupe-props in lptools to prevent working on bugs with duplicates with the same reporter | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | modified lp-bug-dupe-props to check description for apport key / value pairs | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | reported bug 1007637 regarding preventing reporting multiple package install failures | 15:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1007637 in apport (Ubuntu) "ubuntu general hook should check to see if package install failure has already happened" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1007637 | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | apport modification to ensure that package_hook tags update-manager dist-upgrade bugs dist-upgrade | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | investigation into apport-package failures not being sent to the error tracker | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | launchpad dev environment setup | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | ␗ done | 15:15 |
| infinity | * Last week: | 15:16 |
| infinity | - Did some SRU stuff and other random AA faff while in HK | 15:16 |
| infinity | - Worked on non-public *mumble*mumble* stuff with jk | 15:16 |
| infinity | - Reviewed and sponsored some simple uploads for xnox | 15:16 |
| infinity | * Linaro Connect last week: | 15:16 |
| infinity | - Good discussions around v8 progress in ARM and with upstreams | 15:16 |
| infinity | - ARM will be backporting their GCC patches to 4.7 for us | 15:16 |
| infinity | - Binutils should be out "soon", but still ARM-internal for now | 15:16 |
| infinity | - Need to chase up Linaro to get qemu-user-aarch64 working | 15:16 |
| infinity | - Lots of other good discussions around big.LITTLE, v7 server | 15:16 |
| infinity | concerns, single zImage (almost there!), and other fun bits | 15:16 |
| infinity | * PlusOneMaint, starting this week | 15:16 |
| infinity | - Cleaned up quantal_probs on Monday, leading to my first +1 beer | 15:16 |
| infinity | - Training up Andy for PlusOneMinion tasks, currently teaching him | 15:16 |
| infinity | the joys and pain of hunting build failures | 15:16 |
| infinity | - Setting up my new laptop, as the old one's display unceremoniously | 15:16 |
| infinity | died the day after I got home from Hong Kong | 15:16 |
| infinity | (done) | 15:16 |
| barry | py3 porting: lazr.authorization, wsgi_intercept, oauth, httplib2 (issue 210), lazr.restfulclient. this did not go well (details available on request), so i explored alternatives w/pitti who made me very happy. apport's dependency on launchpadlib is server side only, so he's going to juggle the packages/deps to remove the ubuntu-desktop task dep. \o/ | 15:17 |
| barry | python issue 14673 and pep 421 implementation (review, sponsor). | 15:17 |
| barry | provided some consulting for bug 1008898 (upstream dbus-python py3 bug). | 15:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1008898 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) "crash after inserting wireless password" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1008898 | 15:17 |
| barry | worked a bit on my dd application + debian uploads | 15:17 |
| barry | todo: re-chase some dependencies and update the spreadsheet. prep for next week's sprint | 15:17 |
| barry | done. | 15:17 |
| njin | translating debugging central for italian reporters, hardware testing A1 - in progress | 15:18 |
| njin | done | 15:18 |
| ogra_ | no jodh today ? | 15:19 |
| infinity | Not in the channel, at any rate. | 15:19 |
| ogra_ | yep | 15:19 |
| slangasek | right | 15:20 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Bugs | 15:20 |
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| slangasek | bdmurray: anything new? :) | 15:21 |
| bdmurray | I mentioned bug 346386 being unfixed in precise | 15:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 346386 in apt (Ubuntu Natty) "[MASTER] Update fails with invalid package files with "Encountered a section with no Package: header"" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/346386 | 15:21 |
| slangasek | yep | 15:21 |
| ogra_ | from natty ? | 15:21 |
| ogra_ | wow | 15:21 |
| slangasek | did you find the reason for its unfixedness? | 15:22 |
| bdmurray | I found the relevant bit I think | 15:22 |
| bdmurray | in acquire-item.cc there is now a if (Verify == true) check | 15:22 |
| bdmurray | which didn't exist in oneiric | 15:22 |
| slangasek | should the bug be reopened? | 15:23 |
| bdmurray | yes probably | 15:23 |
| slangasek | ok | 15:24 |
| slangasek | next steps? will you follow up with the apt maintainers (David/mvo)? | 15:24 |
| bdmurray | yes, I've talked to mvo about it briefly | 15:24 |
| slangasek | ok cool | 15:25 |
| slangasek | anything else on the "actively receiving dupes" list that we should be aware of? | 15:25 |
| bdmurray | as I was looking at bugs w/ the most duplicates I ran across bug 529714 | 15:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 529714 in eglibc (Ubuntu) "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in _nss_wins_gethostbyname_r()" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529714 | 15:26 |
| slangasek | hmm, are there new dupes coming in? | 15:26 |
| bdmurray | which times out | 15:26 |
| bdmurray | no, but it clutters the most duplicates list | 15:27 |
| slangasek | right | 15:27 |
| bdmurray | and I thought breaking out the 'suggesting use of RTLD_DEEPBIND when | 15:27 |
| bdmurray | opening nss modules from eglibc' task might be a good idea | 15:27 |
| slangasek | sounds good to me | 15:27 |
| bdmurray | okay | 15:27 |
| bdmurray | then infinity and I were looking at bug 1001904 yesterday evening | 15:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1001904 in sysvinit (Ubuntu) "package sysvutils (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man1/mesg.1.gz', which is also in package sysvinit-utils 2.88dsf-13.10ubuntu11" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1001904 | 15:28 |
| bdmurray | the users had added hardy to their sources | 15:28 |
| slangasek | and people are doing this because there's a java package still in the hardy archive? | 15:28 |
| slangasek | we removed it from partner for all releases... I guess we overlooked hardy because it was in the main archive, not in partner? | 15:29 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: ^^ do we want to remove sun-java from the hardy release pocket? | 15:30 |
| cjwatson | We've never regenerated a release pocket Packages so far | 15:32 |
| cjwatson | In the past I've said we'd only do it given a CnD | 15:32 |
| * slangasek nods | 15:32 | |
| slangasek | any other action to take here, then? I'm not sure it makes sense to worry about the missing replaces per se | 15:32 |
| cjwatson | So, well, it's possible, but it would have to be a tremendously compelling reason | 15:32 |
| xnox | do we have permission to continue to distribute sun-java though? I thought there was termination. | 15:32 |
| cjwatson | xnox: Only for later versions | 15:32 |
| xnox | ok | 15:33 |
| infinity | We could fix the replaces, but really, pulling in Essential packages from a 4 year old release is sort of a "you get to keep both pieces" scenario. | 15:33 |
| slangasek | agreed | 15:33 |
| infinity | If we fix the replaces, would it completely disappear the old package? | 15:33 |
| infinity | Cause that's vaguely elegant, at least. | 15:33 |
| infinity | Or... Maybe that would be hilariously bad. | 15:33 |
| bdmurray | well is there something better we can do to detect people in this scenario? | 15:34 |
| infinity | It's pretty clearly unsupported-but-allowed use of the tools. I dunno how much hand-holding we can do. | 15:34 |
| slangasek | infinity: right - so what about detecting that this is what a user has done, so we can disregard the bug reports (or block them beforehand)? | 15:36 |
| slangasek | I'm not interested in us spending effort making this work for users | 15:36 |
| infinity | Disregarding is a bit harsh without feedback telling them why. | 15:36 |
| slangasek | there are many bug reports that go disregarded | 15:37 |
| infinity | And the effort spent on making fancy hooks for that sounds like more than just doing the replaces and papering over it. | 15:37 |
| slangasek | so we think this is a one-off circumstance, and we won't see other bug reports? | 15:38 |
| infinity | There are two dupes. | 15:38 |
| infinity | Not sure how many others haven't been found. | 15:39 |
| bdmurray | I'll try and search for more 3 isn't really a large quantity | 15:39 |
| slangasek | by "other" I mean "other kinds of bugs caused by trying to travel back in time 4 years" | 15:39 |
| infinity | Oh. | 15:39 |
| slangasek | if it's going to be a general class of issue, better to suppress bug reporting | 15:39 |
| infinity | Nothing that I've seen. But bdmurray's the one who knows all. :P | 15:39 |
| cjwatson | I can imagine some, but auto-installation of Essential seems like the hardest to avoid. | 15:40 |
| slangasek | if we really think this is the only bug of its kind, then that's easily done | 15:40 |
| * slangasek assigns the bug to infinity | 15:41 | |
| infinity | Just what I always wanted. | 15:42 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: others? | 15:42 |
| * ogra_ has an errors.u.c question ... does that fit in this topic ? | 15:43 | |
| bdmurray | slangasek: nope | 15:43 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: ok, thanks | 15:43 |
| slangasek | ogra_: let's say yes | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | k | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | so if distros like mint supress updates and security fixes ... bugs will re-occur over and over on the list ... | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | can erros be taught to hide bugs once a newer version was uploaded ? | 15:44 |
| ogra_ | *errors | 15:44 |
| ogra_ | thats an ev question i guess ... | 15:44 |
| ogra_ | that came up recently in a discussion i had and i promised to ask here :( | 15:45 |
| ogra_ | err | 15:45 |
| ogra_ | :) | 15:45 |
| slangasek | well, errors is meant to know if a crash occurs with the current package or only with the older ones... at one point the headline graph showed "# of crashes" vs. "# of crashes we'd have if people were up to date"? | 15:45 |
| slangasek | and the current display shows the first and last known package versions for a crash | 15:45 |
| slangasek | I think hiding the bugs entirely might be too much at this point, though, since there might be other reasons people aren't getting the update that are in our control? | 15:46 |
| cjwatson | We also want to know about unexpected regressions | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | which wouldn happen with a newer version | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | *would | 15:46 |
| cjwatson | And about whether lots of our users are seeing bugs because for some reason they aren't up to date; I think to some extent this is a different-audiences question | 15:47 |
| * slangasek nods | 15:47 | |
| ogra_ | k | 15:47 |
| cjwatson | Many developers would only care about newest-version, but (say) release management might care about everything; I think I'd like to see it be controllable ... | 15:47 |
| slangasek | ev: ^^ so what's the right answer for ogra_'s concern? do we track these by sending you mail? :) | 15:47 |
| bdmurray | I seem to recall a filter by release / distro feature coming to errors which may help | 15:48 |
| ogra_ | haha, sorry, i only channeled the question, i didnt mean to do anything evil to ev | 15:48 |
| slangasek | well, I think it's a legitimate request for errors.u.c functionality | 15:48 |
| infinity | I think ev died. | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | indeed, but i dont want him to drown in mail caused by mint users :) | 15:49 |
| slangasek | oh, I wasn't suggesting having mint users email ev, I was suggesting *you* mail him ;P | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | oh, ok | 15:49 |
| slangasek | anyway, ev seems idle, so best to take this offline from here | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | yeah, i can do that | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | right | 15:50 |
| bdmurray | you can also report bugs a launchpad.net/errors | 15:50 |
| slangasek | heh, namespace | 15:50 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Python3 vsprint | 15:50 |
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| slangasek | hopefully everyone got the mail about the porting sprint next week | 15:50 |
| slangasek | any questions about the plan there? | 15:50 |
| slangasek | everyone know whether they're in an American or European timezone? | 15:51 |
| infinity | Do I have to abandon my +1 minions to come be sprinty? | 15:51 |
| infinity | (And I have no idea what timezone I'm in...) | 15:51 |
| infinity | (ever) | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | cmon .... we know where to look that up ! | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | just do a A1 test install, ubiquity will tell you ! | 15:51 |
| slangasek | infinity: yes - you can tell them you're "on call" available for those days if things come up? | 15:51 |
| infinity | slangasek: Check. Can do. | 15:52 |
| infinity | ogra_: I do all my test installs on stgraber's server, that doesn't help. | 15:52 |
| slangasek | hah | 15:52 |
| ogra_ | heh | 15:52 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] AOB | 15:52 |
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| slangasek | anything else? | 15:52 |
| ev | sorry, got pulled into a side conversation | 15:53 |
| ev | I have AOB | 15:53 |
| infinity | Not just OB? | 15:53 |
| ev | and then I'm happy to loop back and talk with ogra_ | 15:53 |
| ev | infinity: :) | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | ev not urgent, we can do it another time | 15:53 |
| ev | so pitti and I were talking about having references to the error tracker in uploads | 15:53 |
| slangasek | infinity: he has Astounding Oratorial Bacon | 15:53 |
| ev | much like we do with LP bugs | 15:53 |
| infinity | That seems messy. | 15:54 |
| cjwatson | I'm going to have to go to catch a bus, I'm afraid - need to leave sharp today | 15:54 |
| infinity | Given that error reports should align with bugs anyway, no? | 15:54 |
| * slangasek waves to cjwatson | 15:54 | |
| ev | what do people think of a full SHA-1 hash of a crash signature (the things you see in the function column on errors.ubuntu.com) for this, or the first half of the SHA-1 hash | 15:54 |
| bdmurray | I thought bugs were going to contain information about errors? | 15:54 |
| slangasek | ev: wouldn't we want any error we care about fixing to have a corresponding bug report? | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | ++ | 15:54 |
| * infinity notes we all seem to be on the same page here. :P | 15:55 | |
| infinity | errors -> bug -> fix bug. | 15:55 |
| infinity | Underpants, etc. | 15:55 |
| slangasek | if nothing else, an error tracker ref doesn't give us anything to hang the developer's thoughts on | 15:55 |
| xnox | statistically ev, you can trim it down to first 7 characters. But, I'd rather see lp: bug references only. | 15:55 |
| ev | something needs to refer back to the error tracker | 15:55 |
| infinity | ev: The bug can. | 15:55 |
| xnox | ev: add errors as a bug tracker on launchpad. | 15:55 |
| ogra_ | and the bug cant ? | 15:55 |
| cjwatson | We need a tool to promote error-tracker entries to bugs, I think | 15:55 |
| xnox | ev: link to 'distributions errors.ubuntu.com' as a bug watch | 15:56 |
| cjwatson | To make it easy and make it more likely that it's done in a vaguely standard way | 15:56 |
| infinity | That would actually kinda work. | 15:56 |
| infinity | (The external tracker link) | 15:56 |
| infinity | But just a simple tag works too. | 15:56 |
| ev | tag is probably easlier | 15:56 |
| ev | easier even | 15:56 |
| xnox | infinity: sha1 tag? | 15:56 |
| xnox | or url tag? | 15:56 |
| infinity | Don't care. Just "a bug tag". | 15:57 |
| infinity | errors:sha1 or something would work. | 15:57 |
| ev | I just need to give that one some though, as I really don't want to involve a cron job on this | 15:57 |
| slangasek | you want a separate bug tag for each error entry? | 15:57 |
| slangasek | my understanding is that launchpad does not like scaling tags | 15:57 |
| * cjwatson suggests checking with the LP team in case a bazillion different tags would cause some kind of problem | 15:57 | |
| ev | oh no, it wouldn't be lots of tags | 15:57 |
| infinity | Oh, right, tags are actually hashed as keys. | 15:57 |
| infinity | Nevermind. | 15:57 |
| ev | it would be the needs-dupcheck tag | 15:57 |
| ev | or whatever it is | 15:57 |
| cjwatson | Right, gone | 15:58 |
| ev | which would then cause the LP retracer to pick it up | 15:58 |
| ev | but that adds the latency of waiting for the LP retracer | 15:58 |
| ev | hmm | 15:58 |
| ev | we could just have the errors.ubuntu.com backend create the bug when you click on a "create bug" link and immediately write it in to the bug field in the BucketMetadata column family | 15:59 |
| ev | the "create bug" link only being present when one doesn't exist in the bug column | 16:00 |
| slangasek | any other acl on that? | 16:00 |
| ev | this would mean any linked bugs would be created by a bot | 16:00 |
| ev | well, the standard canonical+bugsquad or whatever it is | 16:00 |
| * slangasek nods | 16:00 | |
| slangasek | sounds reasonable enough to me | 16:01 |
| ev | okay, I'll confirm with martin and hopefully go with that | 16:01 |
| ev | thanks | 16:01 |
| slangasek | cool | 16:02 |
| slangasek | anything else? | 16:02 |
| slangasek | #endmeeting | 16:03 |
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| slangasek | thanks all | 16:03 |
| xnox | thanks | 16:03 |
| barry | thanks | 16:03 |
| ogra_ | thanks | 16:03 |
| ev | thanks | 16:03 |
| infinity | \o | 16:04 |
| stgraber | thanks | 16:04 |
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| jmarsden|work | #startmeeting Lubuntu Weekly Meeting | 20:03 |
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| jmarsden|work | o/ | 20:03 |
| phillw | o/ | 20:03 |
| will_ | \o | 20:03 |
| jmarsden|work | Only 3 people? Hmmm. OK. | 20:04 |
| jmarsden|work | OK, agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings/Agenda as usual | 20:05 |
| jmarsden|work | #topic actions items from last week | 20:06 |
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| jmarsden|work | I don't think a meeting was held last week... if it was, I have not seen minutes... | 20:06 |
| jmarsden|work | So, we'll assume there was no meeting last week. | 20:06 |
| will_ | I don't think there was one | 20:07 |
| jmarsden|work | #topic lubuntu-qa co-ordinator needed | 20:07 |
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| jmarsden|work | phillw, can you bring us up to date on this one? | 20:07 |
| phillw | well, as wxl is here, he can let us know if he wants that role. As I stated, until a replacement is found I will continue in that task. | 20:08 |
| wxl | i don't *WANT* it, but i will do it if no one takes it on | 20:08 |
| wxl | honestly, i'd love to do it. i just find it hard to commit the time. my available time shrinks every day, i swear. | 20:08 |
| phillw | that is a curse of QA, especially as release date gets closer. | 20:09 |
| jmarsden|work | OK... then let's leave it with Phillw for now; phillw can you post something outlining what the role requires to the lubuntu mailing list, and we'll see if anyone else feels inspired to do it? | 20:09 |
| wxl | can i just vote to keep you, phillw? ;) | 20:09 |
| phillw | jmarsden|work: I've written up a critique | 20:09 |
| jmarsden|work | Great, thanks. | 20:09 |
| phillw | but, the job is more than just 'the job'... that is hard to put into writing,. | 20:10 |
| phillw | I'll continue for 12.10 unless something unforseen happens, such as me getting a job in Singapore etc :) | 20:10 |
| jmarsden|work | Understood... but we need something to try to explain it to potential volunteers, at least. I wonder what the other flavours do wrt filling this role -- do they have descriptions of it we can use?? | 20:11 |
| phillw | but, I will put it to th eML. Having someone join now would be excellent | 20:11 |
| jmarsden|work | OK, sounds settled for now then. Thanks! | 20:11 |
| phillw | ermmm... what other flavours? | 20:11 |
| jmarsden|work | QA for Kubuntum QA for Xubuntu, etc. | 20:11 |
| phillw | the last QA guy I knew of (Xubuntu) resigned last cycle. They're struggling | 20:12 |
| jmarsden|work | Ah! | 20:12 |
| phillw | kubuntu is held by one of their devs. | 20:12 |
| wxl | i DON'T want that to happen to us. | 20:12 |
| phillw | he was, and now is sponsored | 20:12 |
| wxl | so when you can't take it any more, i'll struggle with it in your absence, phillw. | 20:12 |
| Unit193 | Xubuntu has astraljava, IIRC. | 20:12 |
| phillw | wxl: hence my remaining here. it is too important. | 20:13 |
| phillw | Unit193: who are not doing A1's...... | 20:13 |
| wxl | yikes | 20:13 |
| phillw | lost Mac & ppc last cycle..... | 20:13 |
| wxl | :( | 20:13 |
| will_ | Is there a full QA team, and just looking for a coordinator? | 20:13 |
| wxl | there are always qa members | 20:14 |
| phillw | There is a full QA team, just someone to attend the meetings and liase across several teams. | 20:14 |
| phillw | I'll write it up better & post it. | 20:14 |
| wxl | i thought you did this already? | 20:15 |
| phillw | that was a scribbled email to someone who already knows QA.... | 20:15 |
| wxl | ok | 20:15 |
| jmarsden|work | Alright... | 20:16 |
| jmarsden|work | #topic Alpha 1 Status | 20:16 |
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| jmarsden|work | Quick update from me... I spoke with Julien | 20:16 |
| phillw | shall I do the honours? | 20:16 |
| jmarsden|work | OK... sure :) | 20:16 |
| * skaet perks up and pays attention now.... ;) | 20:16 | |
| * stgraber looks | 20:16 | |
| phillw | The respins have been done again. a few 'major' bugs squished | 20:16 |
| phillw | the call has gone out, as the A1 goes 'live' tomorrow. There do not seem to be any show-stopping bugs for an A1 release. | 20:17 |
| jmarsden|work | Right. Basically Lubuntu is on track and has an Alpha1, which we can now encourage lots of testers to test. | 20:18 |
| phillw | one minor (ish :P) bug for ppc is there is no borwser | 20:18 |
| phillw | *browser* | 20:18 |
| jmarsden|work | But that's not ours to fix, really... and presumable all flavours have that same issue. | 20:18 |
| wxl | yikes | 20:18 |
| phillw | jmarsden|work: indeed, and it is fixable. | 20:18 |
| phillw | hopefully before beta 1 :D | 20:18 |
| jmarsden|work | chromium and firefox both do not currently build for PPC, is basically the problem... so it is fortheir teams to fix. | 20:19 |
| jmarsden|work | OK... | 20:19 |
| wxl | i need to make a proper install out of it. i kind of cheated my way to quantal. there seems to be a known bug with update-manager that seems to have been squished because i don't see the symptoms anymore. | 20:19 |
| jmarsden|work | Basically, let's call get testing :) | 20:19 |
| jmarsden|work | #topic Any Other Business | 20:19 |
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| jmarsden|work | *let's all get testing | 20:19 |
| jmarsden|work | ANyone have anything else we need to address today? | 20:20 |
| phillw | skaet: is the current respin "THE" A1, or is there a chance of another respin? | 20:20 |
| skaet | phillw, we're likely to go with it, but results still coming in... | 20:21 |
| skaet | Have not spotted gilir on line, could one of the members of the lubuntu community go in and update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview with the main changes that have occured, and any significant bugs (I've added the browser one already). | 20:21 |
| phillw | as in, when do you expect to say "this is it!" | 20:21 |
| jmarsden|work | #action phillw to write up lubuntu-qa coordinator job description and ask for volunteers on lubuntu-users list | 20:21 |
| meetingology | ACTION: phillw to write up lubuntu-qa coordinator job description and ask for volunteers on lubuntu-users list | 20:21 |
| phillw | jmarsden|work: can you do that, as a dev? | 20:21 |
| jmarsden|work | Yes. | 20:21 |
| skaet | phillw, tomorrow morning after I get the results from QA. :) | 20:22 |
| jmarsden|work | #action jmarsden to update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview with the main changes that have occured, and any significant bugs | 20:22 |
| meetingology | ACTION: jmarsden to update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview with the main changes that have occured, and any significant bugs | 20:22 |
| skaet | Thanks jmarsden :) | 20:22 |
| wxl | i'd also say this is a great time to encourage new testers. the update to apport is niiiice. | 20:22 |
| jmarsden|work | You're welcome. | 20:22 |
| jmarsden|work | OK... I think we're done? | 20:22 |
| phillw | jmarsden|work: as Julien is real busy, is there a chance you could re-start | 20:22 |
| phillw | the weekly digest on the testing page, as we had for 12.04? | 20:23 |
| phillw | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseStatus/Precise | 20:23 |
| jmarsden|work | Maybe... I often don't know week by week what Julien has done... so it would be real work for me to do that. I'll think about it. | 20:23 |
| phillw | there is nothing for Q :( | 20:24 |
| phillw | okies, I'll ask Julien if he can squeeze it back into his workload | 20:24 |
| jmarsden|work | That would be better, I think, if he is willing | 20:24 |
| jmarsden|work | OK... any other business? | 20:25 |
| phillw | He may simply have forgotten about it :) | 20:25 |
| jmarsden|work | #endmeeting | 20:25 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Wed Jun 6 20:25:33 2012 UTC. | 20:25 |
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| jmarsden|work | OK, thanks everyone :) | 20:25 |
| phillw | thanks for chairing jmarsden|work | 20:25 |
| jmarsden|work | No problem... now I can go to a real world meeting here at work! | 20:26 |
| wxl | thank you everyone | 20:26 |
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