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ali1234hmmmmmmmmm00:41
ali1234argh01:24
daubersMorning07:08
DJonesMorning daubers07:09
ubuntuuk-planet[Jono Bacon] Ask Me Anything - http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/06/06/ask-me-anything/07:16
DJonesINteresting, Google has bought Quickoffice, I wondr whether they'll integrate/merge google docs & quickoffice to give a good offline version of google docs or keep them as seperate entities07:21
jussiDJones: I suspect the former07:26
DJonesSame here, must admit I was looking for a office suite that was compatible with open formats for my tablet, the default polaris office wasn't compatible and the android port of libreoffice doesn't look to be available yet (I'm sure I read that was in the pipeline)07:29
DJonesquickoffice doesn't seem compatible either, but it wouldn't surprise me if it got modified to make it more compatible07:30
hoovergood morning all07:55
czajkowskialoha08:00
AlanBellmorning all08:01
oimonany giffgaff users here? i'm confused... not sure if i have to buy a goodybag before i send my pac code?08:29
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oimonto answer my own question, yes i need to buy a goody bag first08:37
oimonand diplo should be getting referral points ;)08:38
brobostigongood morning everyone.08:42
TREllisoimon: so, yeah you found out already but yes. I did this at the weekend too08:52
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)08:54
oimonTREllis, i've left it a bit late to transfer (tmobile require me to use my pac by 7th june), hopefully will be ok08:55
oimondid you keep your old sim connected, or your new one while waiting for the number to tranfer08:56
TREllisoimon: old one still connected and I've got plenty of time before my PAC expires, but if you schedule today I think it'll be done by tomorrow08:57
AlanBellTREllis: so what are you up to these days?08:57
TREllisAlanBell: just started at Eucalyptus Systems as a consultant09:02
AlanBellthe virtualisation thing?09:02
TREllisyup09:03
AlanBellvery nice09:03
TREllisAlanBell: how about you?09:03
AlanBellall moved in to our new offices in Farnham09:03
TREllisooh09:03
TheOpenSourcererTrouble is TREllis I have to look at his ugly mug all day now :-(09:04
TREllislol09:04
TREllisat least you don't have to talk to each other in person, you are both on the same irc channel, it's like a surreylug meet09:05
dwatkinsWhat is this talking of which you write?09:07
dwatkins;-)09:08
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diploMorning all09:28
bigcalmMorning09:31
matttTREllis: eucalyptis?  neat!09:35
* popey wonders if TheOpenSourcerer and AlanBell have a spare desk in their office for another Alan ☺09:40
* TheOpenSourcerer wonders if popey is feeling lonely ;-)09:40
AlanBellwe actually have another Alan popping in this afternoon09:40
oimongiffgaff website :"To be eligible for Payback you must have an active giffgaff SIM, have used your phone within 3 months before 31 MAY 2012, have a positive Payback points balance, not be in breach of any of our standard Terms and Conditions."09:40
oimondoes that means payback is stopping?09:40
popeykids are on half term and I'm back to work tomorrow09:41
gorddoesn't the alans working in the same place open some sort of gate? a gate to a place that should not be mentioned, a gate you can not easily close09:41
popeyam looking for somewhere outside home to go09:41
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DJonesgord: Duct tape, it'll fix anything09:41
TheOpenSourcererhello everyone09:44
TheOpenSourcererThat's my boy. Ignore him.09:44
oimonoverheard in office to an ex-microsoft employee, "how can i switch this windows 8 thing off"?09:45
czajkowskianyone in the Leicester area, want to see RMS http://www.fsf.org/events/20120623-leicester09:45
oimonwasn't talking about disabling metro, but turning off the PC09:45
matttTheOpenSourcerer: hello there09:45
AlanBellpopey: if you are looking to avoid kids then our office right now isn't the place :)09:46
popeyah09:46
AlanBellinvasion is over :)09:49
brobostigonjust watched HIGNFY, with alastair campbell presenting. very funny.09:51
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bigcalm2 hours at my desk...10:02
bigcalmIs it Friday evening yet?10:03
davmor2morning all10:05
davmor2czajkowski: Prodity prodity prodity prod, that's that back on track10:05
czajkowskiherro10:07
davmor2czajkowski: nice weekend?10:07
czajkowskilovely10:07
davmor2czajkowski: ours wasn't quite so nice the 24hours of constant rainfall made the camping a little chilly :D10:09
gordi wish it was queenie weekend every weekend10:09
davmor2gord:  Make it so10:09
matttgord: heh, me too10:09
diploJust for the long weekends ?10:10
gordwhat possible other reason would there be?10:10
* davmor2 made the mistake of firing up thunderbird so on second thoughts I'm glad it isn't Queenies day every weekend10:11
diploWell we seem to have people who enjoy it all10:11
diploI'm not a bah humbug, but the coverage was just toooooo much10:11
bigcalmI didn't watch any telly :)10:16
bigcalmOnly a couple of recorded programmes while we were away10:16
bigcalmI got my over-dose of Queenie via twitter10:16
oimonfigured that the royal family costs me 51p in tax each year..50 years of paying tax = £25. the extra bank holiday more than paid for a lifetime of royalty10:17
* mattt ^5s oimon10:19
oimonand it keeps the housewives happy, and we all want that dont we?10:19
JamesTai1Good morning, and happy World IPv6 Day, everyone! :D10:20
oimontoday?10:20
JGJonesIsnt't that tomorrow?10:20
JGJonesNo...it's today...6th of June10:21
diploDDay +68 as well10:22
oimonmost of my day has been waiting for ibm blades to reboot10:22
oimonprocessors get faster, POST takes longer than ever10:23
diploheh oimon was my PITA as well10:26
Monsteris anyone in the south east area looking for people to occupy a help desk?10:26
diploEspecially when you are remotely rebooting them10:26
czajkowskiMonster: eh ?10:26
Monstertech support?10:27
Monsterlevel 110:27
Monsterperhaps10:27
oimondiplo , i have a problem that manifests after a reboot, so i had to keep doing it10:27
czajkowskiMonster: ah ok better to explain it that way if you want people to look at you :)10:27
Monsterright10:28
AlanBellMonster: so you are after a helpdesk job for yourself?10:30
Monsteryes10:30
MonsterI'd love to have one10:31
AlanBellok, thats fine, good luck with your hunt :)10:31
AlanBellI was just checking you were not an agency or something10:31
Monsteroh I see10:31
diploI've looking at reeds recently Monster and lot's of jobs on there.10:32
Monsterlooking now10:32
diploSorry screen lagged out, so didn't check before hitting enter10:33
diploI've been*10:33
Monsterdear me, some companies want a Computer Science degree for tech support jobs10:38
Monsterhow depressing10:38
MartijnVdSfor the CS graduates, indeed10:39
diploMonster: They want, I'd still apply if *you* think you can do the job10:41
diploI used to employ/interview people for IT jobs and the CV was part of the first part the person was the second.. qualifications are nice but having experience is a lot more important to me10:41
diploI've got 0 qualifications but have been an IT Manager10:42
mattthaha10:43
* mattt prefered "ubuntu for your mom"10:43
MonsterWell, sadly I am trying to enter10:44
Monsterso I have 0 experience too10:44
diploNo personal experience ?10:44
MonsterWell customer service environment of course10:44
popeyhttp://blog.dixo.net/2012/06/02/papercraft-bbc-micro-case-for-the-raspberry-pi/10:44
Monsterand personal yes10:45
Monsterwhere are you based diplo?10:45
diploI employed a ayoung lad who used to play with networks at home and ran other stuff and worked out he was a good employee10:45
diploNear Bristol10:45
matttMonster: you could try doing a few jobs on something like freelancer.com -- that'd be stuff you could put on your CV ?10:47
Monsteroh cool10:48
MonsterI have some programming skills10:48
matttMonster: if you do, then get involved in some open source projects ... code contributions would speak volumes when applying for a job10:51
bigcalmThe world has enough blog cms, but you'll learn a lot if you try writing your own from scratch10:53
Monsterright right10:55
MonsterI'm in the process of making a blog using django10:55
AlanBellwe have 3 Alans in the office :)11:00
bigcalmMisread as Aliens11:01
AlanBellsame difference11:01
diploheh11:01
bigcalm:O11:01
bigcalmThe truth is out!11:02
* bigcalm seeks lunch11:03
davmor2hey bigcalm11:08
davmor2bigcalm: you forgot the "there" I think you'll find that will complete the quote11:08
MartijnVdSFace huggers? Chestbursters?11:09
DJonesWhich one is ET?11:13
czajkowskieggs on toast smothered with lea and perrins!11:15
MartijnVdSDJones: "Popey Phone Home"?11:16
JGJonesEverytime I read Popey's name, I keep thinking of that damn "you're so money supermarket" advert. Cursed.11:34
oimondoes etherpad lite allow authenticated/private notes?11:36
czajkowskiDJones: and JGJones nicks are rather confusin11:39
DJonesczajkowski: It confuses me as well, its more confusing when I use my alternate nick of DGJones11:40
czajkowskiall we need is another 4 jones and we have most of the welsh team :)11:41
JGJonesI'm the original Jones! ;)11:42
DJonesJGJones: If you're the original, that would make you very old11:43
JGJonesyes. so get orf moi lawn.11:43
* DJones gets out the deckchair11:43
DJonesOoh, I can see steam coming out of your ears11:44
JGJonesparcel just arrived...and...it's a Raspberry Pi! Finally!11:44
JGJonesthat would explain the steam.11:44
j0nrello rfolks11:45
j0nrfolks even11:45
j0nrI'm getting very confused with postfix virtual domains...11:45
AlanBelloimon: yes, it does11:45
AlanBellthrough the API11:45
j0nrI have a virtual_alias_domains file containing 2 different domain names... but then in main.cf, I am unsure what I should be putting in mydestination, as if I repeat myself it warns me I shouldn't put mydomain in 2 places11:46
matttj0nr: sec, i have a postfix setup somewhere here, let me look11:49
matttj0nr: i don't list my virtual domains in mydestination11:50
matttj0nr: i think i left mydestination untouched, "mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost"11:51
j0nrmattt: ah I got it working now...many ways to skin a cat11:56
j0nrthanks11:56
matttj0nr: good stuff11:58
oimonAlanBell, ah , so it has most functionality of etherpad fat now then?12:04
andylockranhowdy12:04
andylockraneverybody well?12:04
AlanBelloimon: yeah, but I think for the secure stuff you are supposed to embed it in something else12:05
oimonoh :-\12:05
knightwisedamn its quiet13:21
SuperMattok guys, something that has been bugging me for ages13:29
SuperMattwhen I change the mouse to dmz-black in gnome-tweak-tools, why is it that on the desktop and in some apps it's white, but firefox and thunderbird get it right?13:31
oimonSuperMatt, after a reboot?13:35
SuperMattI'm reading somewhere that it's a compiz issue13:35
SuperMatthttp://www.ubunturoot.com/2010/05/how-to-change-mouse-cursor-in-ubuntu.html13:36
oimonSuperMatt, do you still hang out on omgubuntu irc?13:37
oimon(is it still going?)13:37
SuperMattyeah I do, and yeah it is13:37
oimonhmm why hasn't the market decided that a dual-sim mobile would be a good thing?13:39
oimoni also notice that when i change sim i have to reauth with google13:40
SuperMattyeah, pretty nice feature, if you ask me13:42
oimonargh i just realised that hullomail hasn't been notifying me of voicemails13:43
oimoni have 6 months worth13:43
oimonunheard13:43
daubersoimon: Instant podcast!13:44
oimonpush notification was selected too :(13:45
arsenso13:47
arsentime to trial ubuntu for desktops at work :D13:47
oimonarsen, been using it as sole OS at work for a few years now13:51
knightwisedamn13:51
knightwiseanyone know where i can assign a key to use the dash ?13:51
knightwisewhen i press alt i get the hud13:51
knightwisebut when i press command (i'm on a mac) i dont get the dash13:52
knightwisevery  annoying13:52
oimona lot of my users were on kde3.x and i didn't hear a single complaint or issue when i rolled out centos 6 with KDE4.x13:53
davmor2Hey everyone please goto https://apps.ubuntu.com and like the humble bundle apps on FB Canonical will donate £100 per application if we hit lots of like (can't remember the exact amount) go help the charities for free, well bah a few seconds of your time13:53
davmor2feel free to pass it on too please13:53
oimonwon't fb do that for me :P13:54
davmor2oimon: in other channels I meant13:56
oimonhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/646-million-linkedin-passwords-leaked-online/7929014:02
diploCheers oimon, changing mine :)14:03
oimonhaven't seen the list of passwords, would like to see if mine is there14:03
diploAh, it's one of my more obscure passwords but I'll change anyhoo :)14:04
oimonjust logged in but no message popped up to suggest i change it14:05
oimoni did see "Your email is safe with us!14:05
oimonWe will not store your password or email anyone without your permission."14:05
diployeah someone mentioned that on the link you posted14:05
diploLinkedIn are currently looking into it according to twitter14:05
oimonwhy is chromium so lame aat remembering passwords?14:06
oimonbookmarks and passwords seem half baked in chrom*14:08
oimonhmm...experiencing a weird bug again where windows jump around on screen14:12
oimonthey jump to the bottom of screen 114:13
diploI am trying Gnome Fallback, all my issues have since disappeared14:13
diplolock ups etc14:13
diploSo defo unity/cinnamon issues14:13
oimoni'm on faillback right now14:17
diploNot had a crash/lockup in 3 days now14:18
oimonusing a dock?14:18
diploRecord, also chucked docky/gnome do on as well14:18
oimonhmm14:18
diploBut might remove docky14:18
oimoni have gnome do/docky/gnome failback14:18
diploAs gnome do is all i really need14:18
oimonand pidgin, thunderbird windows unmaximised will shift so that bottom of window is touching base of screen14:18
oimondiplo, how do you see what apps are open?14:19
oimonwithout docky?14:19
diploatm have them all open overlayed14:21
diplo2 x 1920 screens helps14:21
diploBut docky is still there atm14:21
oimoni have this problem without docky http://ubuntuone.com/2d1dcLSwRbzxgZECzIt8Qe14:21
diploOoh, you changed your configuration at all14:22
diplo?14:22
oimonhuh?14:23
diploAs in your panel at the top or anything like that14:23
oimonyes, everything's on top panel14:23
oimonhave no time for bottom panel14:23
AlanBellone day Ubuntu One will stop syncing14:24
oimoni only have about 40 windows open and the window list becomes a fail, hence dock14:24
oimonAlanBell, what's that? end of world is nigh?14:24
AlanBellit has been syncing for over a week14:25
AlanBellagain14:25
gordgot a lot to sync?14:25
diploMe either, I seem to be keeping on top of what I have open14:25
diploAlso use terminator a lot14:25
AlanBellgord: I have no idea, it doesn't tell you14:25
oimonhad that with dropbox too14:25
diploAlanBell: You can from the cli can't you ?14:25
gordit does if you use magicicida14:25
gordmagicicada14:25
oimonwhatever that is, it needs a new name14:26
gordat any rate if its taking that long, something has probably gone wrong14:26
AlanBellstuff is happening in magicicada14:26
diploAlanBell: u1sdtool --current-transfers ?14:28
AlanBelldoesn't tell me what it has left to do, just a tree of files14:28
AlanBelland it keeps scrolling back to the top14:28
diploOr tail -f syncdaemon.log14:29
AlanBellhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1026935/14:29
* TheOpenSourcerer did apt-get purge ubuntuone* recently. Got bored of waiting14:30
diplo:P14:30
diplobreak anything14:30
diplo?14:30
TheOpenSourcerernope14:30
TheOpenSourcerernot apparently anyway14:30
AlanBellit is doing stuff, just incomprehensible numbers in that logfile14:30
TheOpenSourcererdropbox ftw14:30
TheOpenSourcererSince I got the Galaxy S3 I also got +50GB in my Dropbox account.14:31
oimondropbox took over a week to sync a few hundred mb recently for me14:31
diploownCloud ?14:32
AlanBelllooks like it is this mesa tree it is hung up on, which is 4672 files totalling 188MB14:32
diplonice TheOpenSourcerer14:32
oimonsparkleshare and owncloud look cool14:32
AlanBelland I grabbed that tree on the 2nd of June14:32
diploCan't handle large amount of files maybe AlanBell , or finding hard to process them14:33
arsenoimon  - yeah i have in the past, ive just got an interesting type of environment to migrate to ubuntu14:33
arsencurrently suffering at the hands of SuSE ED / ES / OpenSuSE, which is awful.14:33
AlanBellthis isn't a really really large amount of files, and a few hundred meg shouldn't take 4 days to upload14:34
arsenwhen is 14.01 lts?14:36
AlanBellarsen: there won't be one, 14.04 LTS will be released in April 2014 (which is what the 04 in 14.04 means)14:37
gordAlanBell, ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log has log files if you want to see if its confused14:37
daubersarsen: It'll be 14.04 in April 2014 :) (every 2 years LTS, naming is YY.MM of release)14:38
arsenaha, thanks AlanBell14:38
arsenso 12.04 is a safe bet for now then :)14:38
arseni really need to install it14:38
arseni imagine unity/gnome3 will make me cry again though.14:38
oimonarsen, it isnt compulsory :)14:40
oimonjust setup a lxde ubuntu system for my nephew, very fast14:40
oimonand some of us still use the old gnome failback session14:41
oimonfor me, it's because of show stopper bugs14:41
arsenyeah id force fallback tbh14:44
oimoni have an issue where i can't see the pidgin contacts window atm :-\14:46
oimoneven after killing pidgin14:46
oimonwhich is the best HIB 5 game?14:49
oimonlimbo looks really nice14:49
oimonnot sure which will work on my lappy tho14:49
oimonhmm swords and sorcery looks cool too14:50
JGJonesoimon, Limbo is pretty good...from look of it, it doesn't appear to require anything powerful15:01
JGJonesI play with it on my 5 years old laptop15:01
oimonyay15:06
oimonsometimes they add more bits after one week..i wonder what they will add15:07
gordamnesia, you should play that, in the dark. at midnight15:11
arsenhow do i force gnome fallback in 12.04 lts?15:13
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JGJonesarsen: Might you be looking for Unity 2D?15:21
oimonarsen, apt-get install gnome-session-fallback15:21
arsenthanks oimon - just discovered it:P15:21
oimonbeward you need to do ctrl-super-right click to delete or change a panel15:23
oimonthat was a killer for me ..not the sort of thing you would guess15:23
oimonhmm did giffgaff just change their £5 per month unlimited data goodybag? seems to be 500mb instead15:29
TREllisoimon: you mean the gigabags for mobile data outside of the goodybags?15:40
oimonhmm15:40
oimonTREllis, i can't find a link to those?15:47
oimoni can only find the 500mb internet...i thought it was unlmited15:47
diploUnlimited on £1015:48
diploDon't it is on £5 one15:48
* diplo may be wrong15:48
diplohttp://giffgaff.com/goodybags/500mb-mobile-broadband15:48
diploThat's all I can see15:48
oimonoh15:48
arsenhow much is the unlimited15:49
arsen?15:49
oimonmight be enough for me if i get sip account somwhere15:49
arsen£10/mo ?15:49
diployeah15:49
oimonthat includes calls etc15:49
diplo300mins/unlimited texts/unlimited data15:49
diploI think15:49
arsencould be interesting with a 3g tablet15:49
diploI'm on it, not had any issues with data yet15:49
diploBut tbh I auto switch to wireless so I think my max data has been about 700mb15:50
diplonormally 3-500mb15:50
oimonf you've used up your 500 MB before your gigabag expires, we will notify you and give you a 50 MB buffer for free. Once you run out of your buffer allowance, you will be charged at 2p/MB for the life of your gigabag15:50
oimon= £2 per 100mb15:51
oimonso if you don't use voice/txt it's still cheaper even on a bad month15:51
diploI send 100 texts a month maybe 200 and use 25/50 mins of voice15:52
diploBut for a tenner I'd rather have it so I can use if I need to15:52
TREllisyeah but the whole point is you can't tether to a laptop or tablet with the goodybags that offer unlimited data, you have to use the gigabags for that.15:53
TREllisso that's the restriction15:53
diploI don't but I have once or twice to grab something quickly, but I don't want to abuse it15:53
diploI think it's fair as a restriction if they are open about it15:54
TREllisindeed15:54
diploNot sure how they check up on it though15:54
oimoni just received a google wave update where the links are from volna.mailerlite.ru :-\16:09
oimonfrom rizzoma ..who are they16:10
DJonesHow do people find the speed of giffgaff? I'm thinking about changing to them when my contract is up, but this article made me wonder about changing http://www.reghardware.com/2012/05/21/review_uk_carriers_network_vs_network/page2.html16:13
directhexDJones, == o2 speed.16:27
bigcalmAnybody played with the sgs3 yet?16:33
davmor2bigcalm: sgs3?16:33
bigcalmSamsung Galaxy S 316:34
dwatkinsDJones: if you're concerned with bandwidth, Three do an unlimited tarif that actually is unlimited, called all-you-can-eat16:34
dwatkinsbandwidth usage over time, that is, as opposed to instanteneous bandwidth16:35
davmor2bigcalm: Yes I'm getting one in August even if I have to change contract to get it :D <TheOpenSourcerer> has one but isn't online currently I blame an AlanBell for that bound to be his fault16:35
directhexbigcalm, sorta like an sgs2, but with a bigger cpu, and a "3!" on the back?16:35
bigcalmdirecthex: not used an sgs2, but I hear people like it16:38
bigcalmdavmor2: progress, you're going to get a phone that can do stuff?!16:38
davmor2bigcalm: indeed16:38
directhexbigcalm, it's successful. mostly salesmen sell it as "like an iphone, but better/cheaper"16:38
bigcalmHeh16:39
bigcalmActually liked the look of the sgs2, shame the sgs3 is nothing like it16:39
davmor2bigcalm: no it's better16:39
* bigcalm shrugs16:40
bigcalmPoor Amo will be annoyed that he got the 1x16:40
bigcalmdavmor2: have there been discussions about the pie factory? (and where was it again?)16:40
davmor2bigcalm: yeap it's on for this next meeting ;)16:41
bigcalmEh?16:41
bigcalmNext week?16:41
bigcalmI didn't see anything in the mailing list16:42
davmor2bigcalm: yes the next meeting16:42
bigcalmPoo16:42
bigcalmI was looking forward to steak and a couple of pints16:42
davmor2bigcalm: and instead you get to have a desperate dan cow pie and a couple of pints instead16:44
bigcalmYay pints16:45
bigcalmdavmor2: so you'll need to give me (and possibly others) details about where and when :)16:45
davmor2bigcalm: I don't16:46
davmor2bigcalm: Big Ron does16:46
davmor2bigcalm: just look up mad o'roakes pie factory16:46
bigcalmdavmor2: ah, good. At least I know where now :)16:48
davmor2bigcalm: well you were told it before you know16:48
bigcalmdavmor2: yes, and I had forgotten, hence me asking you16:49
bigcalmARGH!16:49
bigcalmhttp://www.madorourkes.com/menus.html16:50
bigcalmJust has a link to a PDF menu16:50
bigcalmSodding restaurant web sites suck16:50
davmor2bigcalm: welcome to the real world16:51
bigcalmIt's always the case16:51
bigcalmGrumb16:52
bigcalmle16:52
bigcalmYikes, it's on the other side of Wolves16:53
davmor2bigcalm: yeap told you head down the rabbit run will be your quickest way there16:53
bigcalmI have no idea what/where the rabbit run is :)16:54
davmor2bigcalm: http://goo.gl/maps/G7R116:55
davmor2bigcalm: bit like that ^16:55
bigcalmdavmor2: except that I'm TF10, not Telford :)16:56
davmor2bigcalm: there would be tweaks at either end but that was to give you an idea of where the rabbit run was16:56
bigcalmOk, completely different road from where I am16:57
bigcalmA41 is my route in16:57
bigcalmAnyway. At 7pm, things are fairly easy going16:57
davmor2bigcalm: oh so nowhere near telford then :P16:58
davmor2bigcalm: so you are more newport way than telford then right?17:02
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diploevenin all17:51
awilkinso/17:51
awilkinsSo, "Olympic Leader", pillar of community or (unpaid) shiller of corporatocracy?17:54
awilkinswww.london2012.com/join-in/local-leaders/17:57
AlanBellunpaid shiller of corporatocracy \o/17:57
awilkinsOlympic / Jubilee double whammy has left me grumpier than average17:59
awilkinsEsp. since wifelet is a royalist fanatic for some reason18:00
awilkinsThere must be around 20GB of Jubilee on my MythTV server18:02
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DJonesdwatkins: The Three tariff is the one I'm thinking about, even getting a galaxy S3, its cheaper than I'm paying now19:01
diploaquarius: Nicely wrote up, didn't know about the space before grep to stop it going into history19:05
dwatkinsDJones: good call, 3 quid extra on top of the tenner a month for SIM only19:10
knightwiseyo19:46
knightwisegot a problem here :)19:46
knightwiseinstalled xubuntu on my imac and enabled auto login19:46
knightwisenow the user logs in and the desktop session freezes.19:46
knightwiseany idea how i can disable the auto login from the command line ?19:46
dwatkinsedit /etc/gdm/custom.conf19:48
dwatkins4) changed AutomaticLoginEnable to false19:48
knightwisehmmm .. no gdm directory19:50
knightwiseusing lubuntu and xfce on this machine19:50
knightwisedamn20:00
knightwisei do have lightdm20:00
knightwiseah wait20:00
knightwiseseem to have it working20:00
dwatkinscool20:13
ubuntuuk-planet[Ubuntu UK Podcast] S05E08  Queen of the Flaming Diamond - http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2012/06/06/s05e08-queen-of-the-flaming-diamond/20:17
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Azelphurhmm, any would be hackers have any suggestions on how I would solve this? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/2012/June/IMG_20120606_220015.jpg xD21:06
Azelphurthe mounting brackets stop the case from closing by like 1mm21:06
Azelphurthinking I might just put a dent in the case there with a hammer21:06
MartijnVdSpercussive maintenance21:07
Azelphurindeed xD21:07
ubuntuuk-planet[Jono Bacon] Download for Ubuntu Button Campaign - http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/06/06/download-for-ubuntu-button-campaign/21:17
Azelphurhammer doesn't work very well, I'll wait till my dremel arrives and make some smooth indentations at the relevant places21:17
Azelphurleave the side off for now :D21:17
Laneyhmm21:23
czajkowskialoha21:34
Laneyahoy21:40
ali1234remember on the amiga how game disks never were readable on workbench? how did that work? did the games just seek to a specific offset on the raw disk and start reading? how did the developers create those disks in the first place?21:55
Azelphurhmm, can anyone help me get control over my fans with PWM22:18
AzelphurI'm currently being deafened by 3000RPM fans22:18
ali1234maybe22:19
ali1234most motherboards can only do PWM on one fan connector22:19
Azelphurali1234: I have all my fans on one connector22:19
Azelphurusing smart splitters22:20
ali1234try a different one then22:20
ali1234needs to have 4 pins22:20
Azelphurthe one I'm plugged into has 4 pins, all the rest have 3.22:20
Azelphurmy fans are all 3 pin though22:20
Azelphurbut I could control the speed fine when I had a fan controller22:21
ali1234then you can't control them22:22
ali1234unless you have a special controller22:22
Azelphururgh22:23
Azelphurcan I get a special controller that would allow me to control them in software?22:23
ali1234sure22:23
Azelphurgot a link?22:23
ali1234theoretically anyway22:23
Azelphur:<22:23
ali1234arduino.cc22:24
Azelphurpreferably without building it myself22:24
AzelphurxD22:24
ali1234i dunno22:24
Azelphurali1234: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/2012/June/IMG_20120606_225647.jpg it works though :D22:28
Azelphurjust need to fit the remaining fans, and dremel a hole in the case panel so it'll go back on22:28
Azelphurmainly waiting for the dremel to arrive to finish it all off, but hey it works for now22:28
ali1234would you like some beans to go with that rice?22:29
AzelphurI don't get that one xD22:29
Azelphurali1234: I've been told you can control 3 pin fans in software22:47
Laneyhalp22:50
Laneywhere's the option to turn off "What's hot on Google+"?22:51
dogmatic69account -> deactivate :)22:51
Laneyfound it22:52
Laneyvery useful >:|22:52
ali1234y u no like what's hot?22:56
ali1234um... audacity has no menu bar23:25
ali1234purging appmenu-gtk fixed it23:28
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