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rick_h_phew, love this weather00:28
rick_h_time to catch up on that rss list00:28
snap-lOK, this is weird02:20
snap-lhaving a bunch of sites not show up anymore02:21
MaskedDriver?02:21
snap-lrealindustrialradio.com, eraless.com02:21
MaskedDrivereraless.com is loading for me02:23
MaskedDriverrealindustrialradio.com isn't resolving to anything for me02:23
MaskedDrivereraless is resolving to a proper IP address02:24
MaskedDriversurpasshosting.com?02:25
MaskedDriverowned by HostDime.com02:25
MaskedDriversnap-l should realindustrialradio.com resolve to the same place?02:26
MaskedDriverls02:26
MaskedDriverlol guess I didn't click into putty again02:26
MaskedDriverok bedtime02:28
MaskedDrivercatch you all later02:28
rick_hmorning party people11:09
snap-lUgh11:15
snap-lmorning11:15
rick_hthat good eh?11:15
snap-lYeah, it's not bad, just slow11:16
rick_hyea, understand that.11:18
rick_hdropping off the boy has turned into 20min horse whispering to get out of there11:18
snap-llovely11:19
shakes808good morning11:32
rick_hshakes808: morning, got code for you if you're ready11:37
shakes808alright11:38
rick_hhttp://paste.mitechie.com/show/680/11:38
rick_hsorry, was afk when you pinged later on, and you were gone when I got back11:38
rick_hshakes808: so this is what I *think* is going down, and why your split magic fails is that it doesn't leave the Store part in tact11:38
shakes808Yeah, for whatever reason when it split 'Store 0001' it made it 'Store,0001'11:39
rick_hwell you asked if it was the same as this code and I'm saying most definitely not the same11:40
shakes808alright11:40
rick_hshakes808: see, that sounds like something was trying to string-fiy the split array. since you'd get [Store, 0001] or something11:40
rick_hbut hard to guess this without seeing the code/etc11:40
shakes808The code that you pasted: parseInt("Store 0001".split(' ')[1]11:41
rick_hput a closing paren on that11:41
rick_hbut yea11:41
shakes808The split would happen and then the parsing would happen on the 000111:41
shakes808right?11:41
rick_hparseInt("Store 0001".split(' ')[1])11:41
shakes808yeah11:41
rick_hright, splits, grabs index 1, and then parses as an int11:42
rick_hbut what I'm saying is that leaves you with just a 111:42
rick_hwhile this other code you pasted me ends up with 'Store 1'11:42
rick_hunless I'm not guessing wtf CALC.replace does correctly11:42
shakes808Correct. I would have to cat the [0] + [1]11:42
rick_hthat's a library/etc that's not standard JS11:42
shakes808lol11:42
shakes808Yeah that is from the proprietary software11:42
rick_hif you console.log the method though you can view the source code easy enough11:43
shakes808getting that 1 by itself was what I was trying to do for displaying purposes11:43
rick_hright, gotcha11:43
shakes808Thank you for your help :D11:43
rick_hnp, hope you get it all set11:43
shakes808You all might like this :D http://shirt.woot.com/11:44
rick_hand to carry on yesterday's theme...die IE die11:52
shakes808+111:53
MaskedDriveragreed11:53
rick_hwell, at least there's a ticket for this current issue11:56
MaskedDriverwhich particular issue?11:58
rick_hgoogle doodle is kind of cool today11:58
rick_hhttp://yuilibrary.com/projects/yui3/ticket/253006311:58
rick_hMaskedDriver: ^11:58
MaskedDrivermilestone changed to FUTURE11:58
MaskedDriverthat must give you a lot of hope11:58
MaskedDriverand yeah the doodle is pretty cool11:59
brouschHeh, I just drove by the Getty drive-in in Muskegon on Sunday12:00
shakes808Lenovo deals http://www.techbargains.com/news_displayItem.cfm/30148612:03
shakes808There are others on here for laptops http://www.techbargains.com/ just search lenovo and you will see them.12:05
rick_hjust gave them all my $$ so think I'm done for a bit12:05
shakes808HA HA12:05
shakes8081??? My IRC just got disconnected for some reason12:09
rick_hthat'll teach you to laugh at me :P12:09
rick_hnetworks, can't live with em, can't live without them12:10
shakes8081lo12:11
shakes8081l12:11
MaskedDriveryo I heard you like dcing bro12:11
rick_hhttp://greyscalegorilla.com/blog/2012/06/the-avengers-find-their-way-using-cinema-4d-and-the-city-kit/ cool read12:34
brouschWow. I didn't pay that much attention to the HUD12:40
brouschI just assumed it was fluff12:40
snap-lI <3 effects teams.12:43
snap-lI'll sit and watch the making of Titanic faster than I'll EVER sit and watch the damn movie12:43
snap-lAlso, git gives you super powers.12:47
rick_hhah, yes it does12:47
brouschSo do shrooms, but I don't see you using them12:55
snap-lThat's because they don't run under Linux12:59
MaskedDriverI laughed13:01
rick_h*sigh* another password mess14:30
brouschThey're easier to sort out if you just store them unencrypted14:32
brouschSave yourself some time14:32
devinheitmuellerbrousch: even easier:  just set them all to "<enter>"14:32
brouschD00d, that is brilliant14:32
devinheitmuellerThank you.  :-)14:32
brouschHeh, reminds me of one of our systems. It stores the passwords unencrypted and doesn't even ask for a username. You just type the password14:33
* rick_h pretends he didn't see that14:33
brouschProprietary system. I didn't make this thing ;)14:34
brouschI just realized they've started dipping into Internet usable parts of their application. That is scary14:35
rick_hthere, linked in password changed. Thank you lastpass.14:35
snap-lhttp://geek.theresumator.com/apply/job_20120424231805_RZK7WDBL47C89LMY/Principal-Software-Engineer.html?source=LINK14:42
rick_hyea, saw that. Where's wolfger these days? He's the now resident perl guru right?14:44
brouschHm, haven't seen him in a while14:44
snap-lChrysler built a better firewall14:45
snap-lMight be up my alley, but I don't see Slashdot being Geeknet much longer14:45
snap-l(personal conjecture.)14:46
rick_hyea, I don't know the internals, but that whole scene seems a bit unstable14:46
brouschI haven't heard anything since the announcement they were "maximizing shareholder value" a few weeks ago14:50
snap-lWell, the whole SlashBI (which was the worst name for a site since expertsexchange) thing pretty much leads me to believe the geeks are losing control of the ship14:51
snap-ls/losing control/losing more control/14:52
MaskedDriverYahoo's new browser's website rocks so hard it crashed my browser15:31
brouschEh?15:33
MaskedDriverhttp://axis.yahoo.com15:33
MaskedDriverread an article on it last night and thought I'd take a look. I love that it's available for apple devices only15:33
MaskedDriveranyway, went to watc hthe video and it crashed chrome15:33
brouschWorks for me15:34
MaskedDriveryeah, I had a lot of tabs open15:34
MaskedDriverbut yeah, the desktop version is a joke. It's just a plugin for chrome or firefox15:35
rick_hMaskedDriver: available for chrome != apple device15:45
snap-lyawn15:48
rick_hhah, man bad day to hold linked in stock http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/06/your-iphone-calendar-isnt-privateat-least-if-you-use-the-linkedin-app/16:04
brouschGood quick read http://reinout.vanrees.org/weblog/2012/06/06/flask-django-sucks.html16:13
brouschAnd the slides https://speakerdeck.com/u/kennethreitz/p/flasky-goodness16:13
BlazeixMaskedDriver: i enjoyed this blog post re: the axis browser: http://dcurt.is/axis16:17
jrwrenlooking for feedback on this kind of make file for a small single module python project. http://paste.mitechie.com/show/681/16:38
rick_hlooking16:46
rick_hjrwren: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/682/17:11
rick_hjrwren: I messsed up the filename in target, but hopefully that gets the idea, hopefully more generic/reusable17:12
rick_hand shorter to read17:12
jrwrenrick_h: nice, TY17:14
rick_hnp, and you don't need the touch command bit since you have the file17:14
jrwrenshell which python would be same as just python though, wouldn't it?17:15
rick_hI'd have that do a wget or git clone or whatever to get the file17:15
rick_hjrwren: yea, but now that it's a var, you can pass in a diff python to test17:15
rick_hor pick up venv, etc17:15
jrwrengood.17:15
rick_hmake PY=/usr/bin/python317:15
jrwrenwhat do you mean wget it?17:15
rick_hfor instance17:15
jrwrenOH! sweet. nice call.17:15
rick_hjrwren: well for me I don't have the original .py file17:15
rick_hso I had to create it17:16
rick_hbut no idea how your file appears17:16
jrwrenoh, ok. I'll just stick this with the original py17:16
rick_hright, cool17:16
jrwreni'll just drop the $(TARGET): rule17:16
rick_hright17:17
jrwrenoh, but then I get no rule to make target... hrm.17:17
rick_hmy filename was wrong17:17
rick_hfix the TARGET :=17:17
jrwrenoh, it looked right on first inspect17:18
rick_hyea, I typod it in hacking this out17:18
jrwrenrock on. ty17:18
rick_hnp, Makefile fun ftw17:19
jrwrenwhat do you think of a clean: rm $(testout) $(lintout) ?17:19
rick_hyea, that's cool, but in caps17:20
rick_hand .PHONY: clean17:21
rick_hat the top since it doesn't generate any files17:21
rick_hhttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/2145590/what-is-the-purpose-of-phony-in-a-makefile17:21
snap-l"Father's day deals for the man who felt you kick inside him for nine months"17:23
snap-l-- Groupon17:23
brouscheh?17:24
snap-lOnly if you're a seahorse17:24
brouschSperm only live a few days, so that doesn't make sense17:25
brouschAlso they don't have legs, so I think it's impossible for them to kick17:25
snap-lbrousch: Congratulations, you just showed more biological knowledge than Groupon17:26
brouschWhat's my prize?17:26
snap-lme not calling you an idiot. :)17:27
rick_hwhoa http://paste.mitechie.com/raw/683/17:27
brouschThat prize sucks17:27
snap-lrick_h: That is insane17:28
snap-lalthough I like the business inside views17:28
snap-lTook a virtual tour through a comic shop that way.17:28
rick_hBrian: "Yes, in fact Google does have a fleet of planes with contractors that fly exclusively for Google. And the privacy issues is no different than we've had with aerial shots for years."17:29
rick_h"Dude! Google owns planes! Crazy!"17:29
rick_hlol17:29
brouschOMG they must be rich!17:29
rick_hhah17:30
snap-lAnd I for one welcome Google's street-view of the Marianis Trench17:32
snap-lI fully expect some one to be planking down there17:33
rick_hI've got a sweet spot for maps. It's one of those things that (especially when you get a smartphone) you forget what life was like before it was there17:33
snap-lindeed17:33
brouschI have no idea how I got anywhere before GPS17:34
snap-lJoDee has a maps fixation17:34
brouschI must have been hopelessly lost half the time17:34
snap-lbrousch: Tes17:34
snap-lYes, even17:34
rick_hI mean, remember mapquest?17:34
rick_hnow we're coming back from the wedding I just pull out my phone, enter home, and hit navigation and it's getting me home17:35
rick_hwith 'betsy' calling out turns all the way wheee17:35
rick_hbut yellow pages? what yellow pages?17:35
snap-l"I 1/4 mile, make a left turn onto oop-dyke road"17:35
snap-l"Can't you dfollow directions, you idiot?"17:36
rick_hlol17:36
brouschGoogle maps took me down that little nearly-impassable alley when I visited snap-l17:36
brouschI thought I was gonna get carjacked17:37
snap-lbrousch: That's because Google is trying to kill you.17:38
brouschPossibly17:38
snap-lYou didn't sign up with Google Insurance, where they name themselves as the veneficiary, did you?17:38
brouschOf course. I love all things Google!17:39
rick_h29355917:42
brouschnoted17:43
rick_hheh, hey, I've gotten better at not hitting it17:43
greg-ganyone have the password hash file that came from linkedin, want to see if I was a part of it :)17:53
brouschhttp://www.mediafire.com/?n307hutksjstow317:54
MaskedDriverthis legit?17:56
rick_hfind out in a second17:56
jrwrenthat is the link from slashdot17:57
MaskedDriverok17:58
brouschAs legit as something on a shady file sharing website can be17:58
greg-gbuddy just posted https://github.com/hungtruong/LinkedIn-Password-Checker/tree/17:58
rick_hlooks like mine isn't in there17:58
brouschrick_h: how did you check?17:58
rick_hit's just sha1pass "YOURPASS" right?17:58
greg-gI think so17:58
rick_hhmm, nope, sha1pass must salt or something it's not consistant17:59
greg-gahh17:59
rick_hok, so put the password in a file, sha1sum filename18:00
rick_hand grep for that?18:00
rick_hthat looks better, still not found18:00
jrwrenaccording to https://github.com/hungtruong/LinkedIn-Password-Checker/blob/master/linkedin.py18:01
jrwrenlinked in throws away the first 6 bytes18:02
jrwrenhashlib.sha1("mypassword").hexdigest()[6:]18:02
rick_hbah, just removed the files18:02
rick_hdoh18:02
jjessei like how the answer no matter is "change your password'18:02
greg-gjrwren: actually, I think because some of the sha1s are zero-led with 6 0's for some reason18:04
jrwrenprobably the lack of salt.18:04
rick_hheh18:04
jrwrenthey didn't understand salt18:04
jjesseor pepper?18:04
greg-gmmmm, shriracha18:04
snap-lHonestly, just change it18:05
rick_hyea, already done, but curious ntl18:05
snap-lLord knows what else is exposed18:06
snap-lWhat really gets me is the nmber of people that are bitching that they have to change a dozen sites passwords because of this18:06
snap-l"Have you learned nothing in the 21st century?"18:07
brouschGeekers. Mine is in there18:07
rick_hwell just remember, all that means is that someone inthe database has that password18:08
brouschusing jrwren's technique and it has 6 0's in front18:08
rick_hif 100 people have the same password it hashes the same and could only be in there once18:08
brouschThe password was quite uncommon18:08
brouschI'm dd000000000000000000000000000000000000000med18:08
jrwrenlol18:09
jrwrenit was password1234 wasn't it?18:09
rick_hilovemycat18:09
MaskedDriverlol18:09
brouschNo, but my new one is. How'd you get that?!18:09
snap-lfuck, that was my password18:09
MaskedDrivernone of my passwords are in there, so I'm golden18:09
snap-lhow did you find it?18:09
rick_hI'm a major haxor18:10
MaskedDrivermy question is how did they only get SOME of the passwords?18:10
jrwrenits on github!18:10
rick_hI'm guessing it's only the hard to crack.18:10
rick_hwith no salt, you can get them, unique them, remove the easy ones you can crack, and post the harder ones up for everyone to get in on18:10
MaskedDriverah18:11
rick_hor else they only dumped the first 10M or whatever to get the data and get out18:11
snap-lThere's also rainbow tables of passwords out there18:12
brouschThey only got passwords of the most awesome people. That's why mine is in there and none of you lamers' is.18:12
snap-ljust generate a butt-ton of passwords, sha1sum them, and then compare18:12
snap-lrather than do the hard work of reverse-engineering a hash, you can instead do some simple computes18:13
snap-lwhich is why you should be using bcrypt. :)18:14
MaskedDriverhow do you not salt passwords? really18:14
rick_hwoot! new SSD is here18:14
MaskedDriverit takes no time at all to generated a salted password18:15
brouschWhat is salt?18:15
_MarcusSomething you use to make food taste better18:16
brouschSee. What's that got to do with a password?18:16
_MarcusNobody likes plain passwords. Salt makes your passwords taste much better.18:16
MaskedDriverfrom LinkedIn Blog: Our security team continues to investigate this morning’s reports of stolen passwords. At this time, we’re still unable to confirm that any security breach has occurred. You can stay informed of our progress by following us on Twitter @LinkedIn and @LinkedInNews.18:16
MaskedDriveryo dawg.. I heard you like denial18:17
MaskedDriverthough if the hacker is any good, he would have deleted any logs18:19
MaskedDrivernote: don't have logs go in default places. hide them, stupid18:19
greg-gwhoa, according to my buddy's python script, my password was in the dump18:36
greg-gson of a18:36
MaskedDriverthat sucks18:37
jrwrenoh shit, linkedin is so incompetent they don't know what happened!18:37
snap-let's put it this way: they sent out a note about it at work18:39
snap-lPeople are oing to freak no matter what they do at this point18:39
MaskedDriveryeah18:40
rick_hI want to see their graphite graph of signups vs account deletions today heh18:41
snap-lheh18:41
snap-lI mean, we're dealing with a bunch of people who name their password after their dog "because nobody will guess 'snickerdoodle' is py password"18:42
snap-las opposed to us programmer freaks who will name our dog after our password.18:42
MaskedDriversnickerdoodle was not found18:42
MaskedDriverlol18:43
snap-l"Come here yahx2osheixiuGheo3Ieb0cai9fie3mu"18:43
MaskedDriversorry.. it looks like snickerdoodle WAS found18:44
MaskedDriverlol18:44
MaskedDriverguess what password was found in the database?18:44
MaskedDriver'password'18:44
MaskedDriverle'sigh18:44
snap-l"linkedinsucks"18:45
MaskedDriverwas found18:45
snap-lI'm totally naming my dog after pwgen 12 118:45
snap-lalthough I'll need to figure how many bits of entropy that is18:45
snap-ldon't want to have any naming collisions. ;)18:46
_MarcusHow do you check if your password was in the dump?18:46
MaskedDriver'holycrap' was found18:46
greg-g_Marcus: see above, link to a github repo18:50
greg-goh, that was before you joined18:50
greg-ghttps://github.com/hungtruong/LinkedIn-Password-Checker/blob/master/linkedin.py18:50
greg-gerr, https://github.com/hungtruong/LinkedIn-Password-Checker/tree/18:51
greg-gor http://kryogenix.org/days/2012/06/06/how-i-checked-whether-my-linkedin-password-was-leaked18:52
snap-lAnd just closed my linkedin account18:59
MaskedDriver^ me too18:59
brouschEnjoy the unemployment line!19:01
MaskedDriverlol because LinkedIn ever got me any jobs19:01
snap-lbrousch: Yeah, like the Dice.com account19:04
snap-lall that netted me was a few calls a year for the same Ford position19:04
brouschLinkedIn is essential for networking with professionals who like to network professionally. Your career is doomed without it.19:05
MaskedDriverI'm running a check against this: http://techland.time.com/2011/11/22/the-25-most-popular-and-worst-passwords-of-2011/19:09
MaskedDriverat 12 and every one has been in there19:09
_stink_hah19:12
shakes8081:D19:17
MilyardoI dunno, I've never had a LinkedIn account19:19
Milyardo@brousch19:19
brouscheh?19:19
MaskedDriverbrousch was just being sarcastic Milyardo19:20
jjessei'm sorry we don't allow sarcasm in this channel19:24
MaskedDriverof COURSE you don't19:25
brouschWell that's just great19:25
MilyardoI see, I've actually heard some else say that about a month ago19:26
Milyardosome people really think that19:26
MaskedDriverthose people call themselves "Social Media Experts"19:29
MaskedDriverif I get an e-mail from someone from LinkedIn, I laugh and tell them I don't want to work for stalkers19:29
brouschI'll be so happy when client side apps diaf. It took me 45 minutes to create a whole new server including migrating a bunch of legacy mysql data. It took me another 45 minutes to login to 3 desktops to change the odbc config20:21
jrwrenthat is just a poorly designed app.20:23
brouschDarn tootin20:23
brouschYou don't want more details20:23
jrwrene.g. evernote, dropbox, twitter, all excellent desktop apps, none suffer from the config issue you just said.20:23
brouschdoesn't help that it's WinXP so I had to logut the user and login as admin to make the changes20:24
brouschThen logout as admin and login as the user so they won't call me at 6AM saying their password doesn't work20:25
shakes8081later, see you at CHC21:10
rick_hjcastro: trouble maker21:24
jcastroheh22:04
jcastrohey these eneloops are the coolest thing I've bought in a while22:04
rick_hjcastro: now if only you'd take my word on the tiling WM it's be the new coolest :P22:15
rick_hjcastro: 520 came in, just waiting on the x230 to leave manufacturing now dum da dum dum22:16
snap-lrick_h: Oh, didn't you hear? Lenovo filed for Ch. 1122:17
snap-lHP is buying their laptop business22:17
rick_hhah!22:17
snap-lThey're no longer making Thinkpads. They're now calling them 'paq pads22:18
snap-lYour musical compatibility with whiprush is SUPER22:24

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