[00:18] <brendon1981> hello room, wow irc takes me back
[00:21] <brendon1981> anybody know how to install ubuntustudio 12.04 without graphic install?  Trying to install on laptop.  Ubuntustudio11.10 installed fine from alternate, was wondering if a similar non-graphic install existed for 12.04.  If not, does ubuntu-studio come as a package (with jack preconfigured) that I could install over the top of a regular ubuntu 12.04 alternate install cd?  I think there are driver problems.  Oh yeah, I should
[00:22] <brendon1981> there were no drivers for lan or wireless so that made it hard.  was hoping 12.04 had fixed that for most laptops...
[00:23] <Unit193> Soemtimes drivers can be picked up from jockey, and unless there are other changes I don't know about you can just use the mini.iso and install ubuntustudio-desktop.
[00:23] <brendon1981> cool that's the package name in apt-get?  if so that'll work sweet.  thanx man
[00:25] <len-dt> brendon1981, start with the xubuntu alt cd
[00:26]  * brendon1981 will give that a go, "yeah, that's a good idea"
[00:26] <len-dt> brendon1981, ubuntustudio (and I think the others too) comes with jockey
[00:26] <brendon1981> excuse my ignorance, but what is jockey?
[00:26] <len-dt> Studio is based on xubuntu these days
[00:27] <len-dt> jockey is an app for enabling and disabling non-free drivers
[00:28] <brendon1981> ahhh... brilliant.
[00:28] <len-dt> You still have to get the drivers though...
[00:28] <len-dt> Which wlan do you have?
[00:29] <brendon1981> broadcom 802.11.g the one that pops up in google with the first few numbers and xxxx for the rest that some driver supports, from memory. oh no wait, thats the other laptop
[00:30] <brendon1981> hang on
[00:31] <len-dt> I thought ubuntu came with just about anything.
[00:31] <brendon1981> (gotta boot up windows to get the info on the wireless)
[00:31] <len-dt> Don't worry too much, I'm not expert..
[00:33] <brendon1981> yeah so basically though i just gotta find the drivers on the net, download them, then use this jockey prog to automate the turning of it on and joining the network etc...?
[00:34] <len-dt> wireless used to be a pain, but I haven't had any problems with any of my machines for the last 3 or 4 versions anyway.
[00:34] <len-dt> Something like that. Once you turn it on it should stay on across boots.
[00:34] <Unit193> brendon1981: No, jockey searches, downloads, and installs them.
[00:35] <len-dt> Sounds even better. How do I do that?
[00:37] <Unit193> I'm a bit confused now as to who is asking about jockey. :P
[00:37] <brendon1981> nice, ok.  yeah so its an atheros AR928X and its on some acer p,o,s i bought from cashies
[00:37] <len-dt> I get the search, but it just says "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[00:38] <len-dt> I was thinking about a driver for my video card.
[00:38] <len-dt> The ath9k isn't the right one for that?
[00:39] <Unit193> Ah, depends on the driver, sadly not all are actually installable by jockey, though jockey handles updates much better.
[00:41] <Len-nb> Unit193, the last time I tried to install the NV driver from their site my machine hung.
[00:43] <Unit193> Well that's not good, and I'd assume you searched for the card info as well? :P
[00:45] <Len-nb> I found their site somewhat confusing and was hoping jockey might do a better job of figuring the right driver. In the end I gave up as I don't use graphics that need the drreal driver that much the free driver is "good enough"
[00:46] <brendon1981> so,...... after a bit of research, and looks like i have to modify /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and add a line saying blacklist acer_wmi
[00:46] <brendon1981> all of these things should be the complete sollution.  thanx everyone
[00:46] <Len-nb> So it's trying to load the wrong driver?
[00:48] <brendon1981> Man, i haven't even got the install to show anything but the background picture yet, and i never used the 11.10 installed on the laptop, coz it was internetless and needed more drivers so i just kept using win, but i want to get 12.04 working....... somehow
[00:48] <Len-nb> My acer has anar9285... which just worked with the live DVD iso in a USB stick
[00:50] <brendon1981> yeah i think even maybe it's a cd prob coz it spins down and just stops.  i plug a usb mouse in and that spins up the cd drive again for a bit, but still no action on the screen.  will try from usb.  will require a trek down to woolies....
[00:50] <brendon1981> (the failing installation process im talking about is 12.04 btw, just clarifying)
[00:51] <Len-nb> No problem, my acer has 12.04 too
[00:52] <Len-nb> 11.10 was an alt. The live iso was the big change (one of them) this past cycle.
[00:53] <brendon1981> yeah i know, i never use the flippin live cd part of an ubuntu distro.   ah well, helps convert people i suppose.
[00:54] <brendon1981> i wonder if one can make an alternate cd from a live cd distro iso?
[00:56] <len-dt> No.
[00:56] <len-dt> The live iso does not have packages on it. It has the packages installed.
[00:57] <len-dt> The alt has the packages and installs them on the system
[00:57] <len-dt> xubuntu-alt and then apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop should work though.
[00:58] <brendon1981> yeah it will get past the install fail prob, then next is the wireless.  so i'll be back in a couple of hours if nothing works.....
[05:19] <len-dt> A more conservative setting than http://wiki.linuxmusicians.com/doku.php?id=system_configuration suggests seems ok. This is of use only for older systems anyway. PCIe doesn't need it... and single slot pci doesn't either. Even my cheapy netbook is all PCIe internally.
[14:13] <minimike> hello there
[14:14] <minimike> Currently I'm installing Ubuntu 12 on a Mac Mini
[14:14] <minimike> is there a sourceslist-entry to switch from it to Ubuntu studio
[14:40] <holstein> minimike: you can open a package manger and search "ubuntustudio" and read about the metapackages
[14:41] <holstein> i suggest just installing what you want to use... JACK, ardour and JAmin for example
[14:44] <minimike> at friday comes an actor to us who has to speak some text for jingles. My Boss said search something what is cheap and works :)
[14:45] <holstein> ubuntustudio is not cheap, its a professional tool that is provided free of cost, and is open source
[14:45] <holstein> lots of time and effort goes into development
[14:45] <minimike> I will hope it
[14:45] <holstein> i would suggest looking at audacity
[14:45] <holstein> just install audacity on whatever operating system you are using right now and try it
[14:46] <minimike> our servers are running with debian perfectly. So thing Ubuntustudio would been a good choise
[14:46] <holstein> i suppose...
[14:48] <holstein> ubuntustudio would likely be overkill
[14:48] <holstein> you can always install debian with a GUI and install audacity
[14:49] <holstein> the ubuntustudio iso is a live CD now.. so you can always load that up and see what will work for you
[14:58] <minimike> yes but the the install of debian was on an Mac Mini not successfull
[14:59] <holstein> i dont do linux on mac anymore personally
[14:59] <minimike> Ubuntu should better handle EFI
[14:59] <holstein> i dont do linux on any hardware that doesnt support what i choose to use
[14:59] <holstein> personally, im around to buying from vendors such as system76...
[15:00] <minimike> the system would be just for guest and actors
[15:00] <minimike> without an hassle about the licenses
[15:03] <studio-user482> hello
[15:03] <studio-user482> help please
[15:03] <studio-user482> hola
[15:03] <studio-user482> nadie?
[15:04] <holstein> !ask | studio-user482
[15:13] <minimike> hmm 512 MB memory are enough for Ubuntu studio?
[15:13] <holstein> minimike: depends
[15:14] <holstein> i would not run ubuntustudio in VM
[15:14] <holstein> i would not expect good results in a virtualized environment
[15:14] <holstein> i would throw the most hardware at you you can.. though, what you are talking about doing is not to intensive
[15:14] <minimike> thats the reason because I've installed Ubuntu on an Mac Mini
[15:14] <holstein> you dont *need8 ubuntustudio though
[15:15] <holstein> you just need audacity on *anything* light
[15:15] <minimike> But I need something what could run on an Mac MINI
[15:15] <holstein> lubuntu... xubuntu... i could make a nice project happen on 512 ram
[15:16] <holstein> good luck!.. im out.. try #opensourcemusicians if its slow here minimike
[15:16] <minimike> myself preferes Debian but after three houers I couldn't proper install the bootloader on the Mac based EFI Firmware
[15:16] <holstein> minimike: also, keep in mind, all the major tools i use for audio in ubuntustudoi are available for OSX
[15:17] <minimike> thats the next :)
[15:17] <holstein> i just dont purchase apple hardware anymore
[15:17] <minimike> currently I have only for Linux a working AT2020 driver
[15:17] <holstein> thats a microphone
[15:17] <minimike> the AT2020 doesn't works on OSX
[15:18] <holstein> that a microphone.. it works on whatever you plug it into
[15:18] <holstein> unless you are talking about an AT2020 USB mic..
[15:18] <minimike> I've pluged it on my Macbook Pro
[15:18] <minimike> without success
[15:18] <minimike> it's with USB
[15:19] <minimike> last try pn Linux has worked
[15:19] <holstein> you'll likely need driver for it
[15:19] <holstein> in OSX
[15:19] <minimike> not found :(
[15:19] <holstein> alsa probably supports it in linux
[15:20] <minimike> so back to the studio :)
[15:20] <holstein> i'll link you an OSX driver for that device if you wait
[15:20] <minimike> thanks
[15:22] <holstein> i would go here http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/site/1635df9c8c5039f1/index.html and request one
[15:22] <holstein> http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/resource_library/literature/35595fd85837a784/at2020_usb_om.pdf discusses using the hardware in OSX
[15:23] <holstein> anyways.. i need to run.. audiotechnica supports OSX with that hardware
[15:23] <holstein> if thats what everyone is expecting, i would go with that