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xubuntu872I am brand new to this and looking to install Ubuntu over windows XP on old Dell inspiron 8600, I am unable to install Ubuntu 12.04 because of PAE error01:22
xubuntu872can anyone help please?01:22
DJzeeI have 11.10 installed. Having trouble installing Adobe flash plugin.  Need some assistance01:23
DJzeeAnd other updates as well01:24
xubuntu872try using Chrome as your browser should have flash built in?01:25
Xifanieon firefox? I don't think you can; the same happened to me on 12.04... get the stand-alone plugin and install that instead01:37
DJzeeProblem is one of my failed updates is Chrome01:44
DJzeeI'll try that Xidanie01:45
DJzeeXifanie01:45
malvi like how a minor bastion package update requires downloading another 1.2 gigs =)04:17
malvbazhang: have you fixed my bug report yet?04:20
asterismohey people04:42
asterismoa question04:43
asterismodoes anyone knows how to edit default panel layout for a custom xubuntu live CD?04:44
xubuntu957quick and probably easy question, in 12.04 how do you chech your computers stats, cpu clock, ram...06:06
hobgoblinxubuntu957: maybe sudo dmidecode will give you what you want06:21
pimperlewill firefox 13 eventually be available in precise? Or will i have to use some ppa to get it?06:36
hobgoblinit should I believe come through as an update06:54
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cousteauusing thunar, why do file sizes appear in KiB, MB, GiB?08:04
cousteauis it a typo, or a weird decision of using decimal MB instead of binary MiB?08:04
* cousteau tries opening thunar with LANG=C just in case08:05
cousteauLANG=C didn't do anything08:08
* cousteau kills thunar08:08
cousteaunothing08:08
ochosicousteau: i get kB, MB and GB (in file properties)08:08
cousteauwith lowercase k?08:09
cousteauweird08:09
ochosithe statusbar shows the same units08:09
ochosihttp://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-06062012-100952am.php08:09
cousteauin file properties I get   247,6 MB (259.596.288 bytes)08:10
cousteauso clearly *MB = MiB08:10
cousteaupersonally I prefer SiI units rather than SI ones...  it's just an annoying typo08:11
ochosiyou can try to report a bug on bugzilla.xfce.org08:11
ochosianyway, g2g08:11
cousteaubye :)08:12
cousteau(I don't think I can report a bug since the bug cannot be reproduced apparently)08:12
xubuntu055hello room..... anyone know anything about installing xubuntu on asus pro500 dual core 3400 (?)  have had issues with graphic install, tried alternate install, installs fine, but freezes about 5 sec after desktop loads - graphic install does same when it tries to load.  managed to click on one thing or so in the five seconds before it takes control over the mouse, giving me about 1 mouse event every 5 secs, then crashes.  every 08:15
xubuntu055i get this with all ubuntu installs except server08:16
cousteaugraphics card?08:18
xubuntu055you'd think so, but then again the desktop loads fine for a bit08:19
xubuntu055how do i fix without being able to click on anything and loosing the kboard as well?08:19
cousteauctrl-alt-f1 and you at least can write commands?08:19
xubuntu055yeah tried to goto a terminal screen, didnt work.  not even ctrl alt del works08:20
cousteauthere you can do `top` and `lspci | grep VGA`08:20
xubuntu055or power down,.  had to hold down for 10 sec08:20
cousteaurather than hard-rebooting or shutdown you should Alt-SysRq-REISUB (or REISUO)08:20
magnus_Hi, I am trying to use urxvt (rxvt-unicode), but when I ssh to a server, it looses all the colors. Any ideas?08:21
xubuntu055sorry, excuse my dumness, i dunno what alt-sysrq is.  keep in mind my mouse totally freezes and the keyboard doesn't work.  cd drive doesn't eject etc etc.  (not a live cd, installed system with no cd in drive)  computer totally dead08:22
cousteauxubuntu055, alt-printscreen-REISUB08:22
cousteauthat's supposed to work no matter the case, it's hard-coded deep in the kernel08:23
cousteauand reboots your computer08:23
cousteau(you may want to read about "Magic SysRq" on Wikipedia)08:23
xubuntu055ok, will do that next time.  still, i wish i could get the os working.  hoping for some ideas of how to do it from recovery mode maybe08:24
xubuntu055fix the os that is08:24
cousteauwithout knowing the graphics card is hard to tell...08:25
xubuntu055hang on brb after some rebooting, investigating etc08:33
brendon1981hi i'm back again..... (i'm the guy with the graphic problem), ok, so i should clarify, I can get the logon screen, that works fine, but after i log on, i get about 5 seconds of keyboard/mouse use.  sometimes the menu loads in that time, sometimes it doesn't get to that..... so, now ive been able to ctrl-alt-f1 and login on tty in those 5 seconds, and ctrl alt whatever back to a blank desktop backgrounds when i go back to the g08:42
brendon1981i could diagnose from the command line, that would be super08:43
martinphonei have a large library of music in a HDD connected to my xubuntu through USB. this large library is categorized by author, year, genre... Just today I opened rhythmbox and 12 albums are under a different album (130 songs with the same album name) why does this happen?08:45
martinphoneat the moment I was doing some other things (demuxing and torrenting IIRC)08:45
martinphonei still need a command to scan images in case sane fails again, if you can help...08:48
martinphoneis this down for you? http://perv.i2p/stats.cgi09:17
* cousteau has never seen a .i2p TLD09:18
cousteauhttp://isup.me/perv.i2p09:18
cousteaumartinphone, http://isup.me/perv.i2p09:19
martinphonedidnt expect that from this channel cousteau09:21
cousteaumartinphone, what?09:23
* cousteau has no idea what that site is and is not curious on that either09:24
martinphonecousteau, I mean I missposted it here09:26
cousteauoh ok09:27
Jonne_anyone know how to change the lightdm background from within xubuntu?09:53
Jonne_some wallpaper app changed mine to something ugly, and can't find how to change it back09:53
SandJSettings, Settings Manager, Desktop09:54
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SandJJonne, for my Xubuntu v11.10 it defaulted to  xubuntu-greybird.png, Single Image, Style: Auto, Brightness: 0, Saturation: 1.009:58
Jonne_weird, i set it to xubuntu-blue on both screens, and on one screen it's blue, on the other it's sort of a sepia-version10:00
Jonne_*xfce-blue10:01
Jonne_will reboot first10:01
Jonne_see what happens10:02
Jonne_still different colours10:05
Jonne_oh well, at leats the lightdm thing is fixed now10:05
Jonne_*least10:05
SandJJonne_, when you say different 'screens' - do you mean physical screens or virtual desktops?10:08
Jonne_physical displays10:08
Jonne_didn't xfce4.8 have a saturation thing before?10:09
Jonne_*hue10:09
Jonne_sorry10:09
Jonne_i don't see it any more, so maybe that's what happened10:09
SandJSorry, I only have one physical screen on this setup.  (I cannot get my virtual desktops to be different and cannot see how.)10:10
Jonne_weird, saturation actually controls the hue10:11
Jonne_or something10:11
Jonne_definitely not saturation10:11
SandJThese are the settings I get, which includes saturation:  http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-060612-111049.php10:12
Jonne_yes, but if you actually change the slider, you'll see it doesn't exactly change the saturation, but does something different10:15
Jonne_possibly hue, but maybe something completely different10:15
Jonne_if i slide it all the way to the left on xfce-blue, it becomes bright red10:15
SandJThat's because it is affecting the transparency of the image and allowing the chosen colour to show instead.10:17
SandJ... I think.10:17
Jonne_whatever, it's fixed now10:19
Jonne_probably weirdness from upgrading10:19
SandJI really must find out why XChat goes to an 'empty' window sometimes.  Jonne_ are you sorted?10:23
Jonne_yesh, turns out the UI didn't show the "saturation" settings that were actually set on the image10:24
Jonne_just touching the slider fixed it10:24
cousteauI can't make a bookmark of an smb:// directory12:32
ochosicousteau: yes, at least not permanently (in thunar's sidebar)12:36
ochosior let's say: not yet12:36
ochosithere was work on a new sidebar, but it stalled due to problems with drag-and-drop12:37
cousteauexactly, the problem is that those bookmarks are not persistent12:41
cousteau(if suggestions are accepted for the new bar, I'd suggest adding a "bookmarks" section to the tree view, so that I can have bookmarks also in the tree)12:42
cousteau(or to the Go menu, or make a Bookmarks menu)12:42
ochosiif you're interested in the topic, the actual result of the discussions is here: http://wiki.xfce.org/design/thunar/shortcuts-pane12:43
cousteauI think I'll try different file browsers to compare them...  also, it's nice that XFCE allows me to select the file manager12:45
ochosiyes, it has a modular approach (something you can't say of e.g. gnome)12:47
cousteauit's a nice feature12:50
* cousteau is trying pcmanfm now12:50
cousteauI'm still missing a twin-panel view and a command input panel12:54
cousteauwonder if that can be made into a plugin12:56
ochosia command-input-panel?12:56
ochosiis "open terminal here" not good enough?12:56
cousteauwell, it could come in handy12:59
cousteauweird, I installed pcmanfm; the shortcut does appear there12:59
cousteau(the one I created in a previous session with Thunar and which disappeared)12:59
cousteauer, what's all this garbage?  ~/.goutputstream-*13:01
cousteauseem to be created when I shutdown the pc13:03
cousteaustep 1:  check whether this has to do with xubuntu or a specific program I installed.  Does anyone else have ~/.goutputstream-* files?13:13
hobgoblinI do - delete them every now and again13:14
cousteauok, so known bug13:14
cousteauthen it's either an ubuntu/xfce problem, or something to do with one of the default programs.  Seem to be created when shutting down.13:15
hobgoblincousteau: possibly https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/98478513:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 984785 in lightdm (Ubuntu Precise) ".goutputstream files polluting $HOME" [Low,Confirmed]13:16
cousteauyes, but since it seems to have to do with Gnome, maybe it had something to do with a program I installed rather than one of the default ones13:17
hobgoblinand thunar is there somewhere13:18
hobgoblinnot just gnome13:18
hobgoblinjust check something13:21
cousteauseems to be something related to lightdm13:23
hobgoblinwell it isn't that13:25
cousteauhow do I change user without closing session?13:25
cousteauanswer:  Ctrl-Alt-Del, and when the screensaver appears and asks me to login, click "New login"13:33
cousteauso it can be done13:33
cousteauit's just not in the normal options13:33
cousteaucan I merge/replace the mail notificator on the plugin indicator with the "Mail Watcher" program?13:46
SandJI have 4 ~/.goutputstream-* files which seem to co-incide with the last 4 reboots.14:06
hobgoblinaaah - I thought they looked like my shutdowns - didn't think to check reboots14:08
cousteauso it's when shutting down or rebooting14:14
SandJOf the 4 I have, the 1st I don't remember, the 2nd was when I shut my PC down before going on holiday (although I may have done a reboot first), the 3rd was when I returned from holiday (and may have done a reboot) and the 4th was from a reboot this morning.14:14
cousteauso you reboot like, once in a lifetime?14:15
cousteauOk, so...  changing the topic, can I make the mail indicator to automatically check for mail?14:16
cousteauthere's a "mail watcher" applet that does this, but it's kind of silly to need 2 plugins for this14:16
SandJI reboot Linux whenever the update program needs it and that's about it.14:16
cousteaumaybe I can make Thunderbird "run in background"?14:16
SandJI very rarely turn my PCs off, usually only for hardware upgrades or moving home.  But it was so hot when I was packing for the holiday that I turned everything off that might generate heat.  Whereas I reboot Windows PCs every morning without thinking, my Linux machines go for weeks without reboots.  It is one of the reasons I use Linux.14:20
cousteauthe reason I use Linux (well, the last excuse I needed for installing Linux) was that when I installed Firefox on Windows, Windows added a bunch of non-working plugins to Firefox without asking me.  In general, doing things without asking me.14:22
FoRcEr_hola16:56
xwalkHello. I'm having massive memory consumption issues with 12.04 for some reason that just started yesterday. After my box has been running for a few hours, the consumption of memory skyrockets. I usually run at about 1-1.2 Gigs of memory used while idling. It seems to be the X server that is consuming too much memory. Any ideas what I can do to fix this?17:32
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puffMy laptop crashed this morning around 5am (http://paste.linuxassist.net/216002).  I rebooted around 1pm and just now as I was restarting firefox, etc, and rearranging windows, my menu bar disappeared.17:45
xwalk_I should also mention that this problem is only with my desktop, my laptop which also has the latest LTS doesn't seem to be experiencing this problem.17:45
puffWell, that's fun, I restarted metacity but still no menu bar.17:53
Unit193metacity? On Xubuntu?17:54
puffGood point. I'm kinda new at this xubuntu thing :-).17:55
Unit193Xfce uses xfwm417:55
holsteinxwalk_: maybe look at the graphics driver you are using.. maybe that is the difference between the 2 machines17:58
puffUnit193: Okay, rebooted (make my skin crawl, I feel all microsofty).  What would have been the appropriate wa to restart xfwm4?17:59
Unit193xfwm4 --replace18:00
puffxubuntu uses gnome?18:00
crondno, xfce18:01
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puffcrond: Ah, the light dawns.18:13
kvarleyI cannot seem to install xubuntu 12.04. I get the following error "*** glibc *** python2.7: corrupted double-linked list". Any ideas?18:13
lightaoh what did happen ? I just did a update and xfce look like unity a bit, like for app windows18:53
lightalike no more border for app,some menu are buggy (thunderbird..)18:56
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