Riddellapachelogger: sure put amarok beta on kubuntu.org if you want06:51
jdrabhi guys is this type of warnings/notices somehow important? KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry _whatever_ in "some_desktop_filel.desktop" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon)?06:57
Riddelljdrab: nope but feel free to add in the semicolon if it bothers you07:01
jdrabty Riddell07:02
jdrabit doesn't bother me but it looks ugly in konsole :P07:03
Riddellturn off debugging in kdebugdialog if it's annoying, it's off by default (or should be) for that reason 07:03
Riddelldebfx: did you say there was a package missing a copying file?08:21
debfxRiddell: kde-base-artwork08:22
debfxand audiocd-kio doesn't have a license for its docs08:23
debfxsame for libkcddb and probably some others08:24
Riddelldebfx: hum any idea where kde-base-artwork is upstream?08:26
debfxRiddell: it's in svn08:27
debfxapparently git can't handle large wallpapers08:27
Riddellkde-base-artwork done08:31
debfxso today is 4.8.4 release day and we have one broken and one semi-broken tarball ...08:37
Riddelldebfx: is that actually going to be released?  not waiting on more patches?08:40
debfxthey are not public yet so there is still hope that they will be fixed08:42
annmahi, are they packages for Kubuntu for 4.8.80?09:06
Riddellannma: we're working on them, you need them by the weekend?09:08
annmausers ask them09:08
annmawell beta2 will be tagged09:08
annmaso no need to work on beta109:08
annmaI thought I saw a bug report from Kubuntu with 4.8.80 so I wanted to be sure there are none09:09
Riddelloh there's still need, I'm fixing problems with beta 1 right now (upstream licencing, distro packaging etc)09:09
Riddellno public ones yet09:09
annmaOK I'll answer the user, thanks a lot Riddell09:10
yofel_bulldog98: what's "libpkgs_gen_strict_local_shlibs = kapman" ?09:21
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yofelbulldog98: why did you add that though?09:41
yofelhm, did DEB_NO_COMPRESSION=1 loose it's effect? Here all packages are xz compressed anyway.09:52
yofelkubotu: newversion digikam 2.6.0 http://sourceforge.net/projects/digikam/files/digikam/2.6.0/10:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1009943 in digikam (Ubuntu) "Please update digikam to 2.6.0" [Undecided,New]10:54
apacheloggerUnable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Error loading 'apturl %u'.11:07
apacheloggerno goody goody11:07
apacheloggeryofel: dunno, amarok had a manual xz entry11:08
apacheloggerwhich then of course overrides whatever pkg-kde does11:08
debfxyofel: you need to set DEB_NO_XZ=111:10
yofelah, thx11:10
apacheloggersicne when?11:11
apacheloggerand why?11:11
yofelwell, the current equivalent for DEB_NO_LZMA I guess11:11
debfxsince I uploaded pkg-kde-tools to the ninjas ppa11:11
debfxit's not in the archive yet due to beta freeze11:11
apacheloggeryeah, but where is that var name change from?11:12
debfxI changed the compression from lzma to xz11:12
apacheloggerdebfx: please compat var handling11:12
apacheloggerlzma is algorithm equivalent to xz, no point in explicitly requiring everyone to change their rcs11:13
debfxhm yeah we should change the var handling anyway11:17
debfxDEB_NO_COMPRESSION=1 shouldn't require DEB_NO_{XZ,LZMA}11:18
* yofel wonders what the point of libkdegamesprivate is11:20
yofelit's full of public symbols, which were in libkdegames before mostly11:20
* Peace- packaged on ppa plasma pannel collection11:20
Riddellyofel: no abi compatibility usually?11:20
apacheloggeryofel: share symbols across kde games, while not being abi compat11:21
apacheloggerhence why it is private11:21
yofelnah, they bumped the SOVERSION of libkdegames to 611:21
apacheloggeryofel: because they moved the symbols11:21
yofelah well, let's see what happens11:21
apacheloggerapparently the symbols are only useful to a very specific set of apps in kdegames, so they created a lib for those symbols11:22
yofelah, that makes sense then11:24
CIA-44[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegames] Philip Muškovac * 155 * debian/ (22 files) (log message trimmed)11:30
CIA-44* New upstream beta release - drop packages for libraries that were removed11:30
CIA-44upstream: + libkggzgames4 + libkggzmod4 + libkggznet4 - switch libkdegames5a11:30
yofelRiddell: do we have a kde-l10n packaging equivalent for calligra-l10n or did you upload those by hand so far?11:46
Riddellyofel: I think I just did it by hand11:48
Riddellbash for loops make it easy to do for me11:49
yofelyeah, that's what I'll do too unless you've got a script lying around?11:49
RiddellI don't11:50
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ikoniaguys, have you got/considered writing a guide to "how to give us a bug report" eg: the info needed, the steps you would want doing / confirming before the bug even hits you11:55
ikoniaI'm struggling to guide someone in how to give you valid/solid info, and wondered if you had anything written up11:56
Riddellthere probabaly are bits but out of date11:58
Riddelland hidden in a wiki somewhere11:58
yofelhum, we do have a bug reporting page, but that's so old it's better not to point people to that11:58
ikoniaI'm seeing some pretty big holes trying to guide this user, would it be helpful to put something together, I've certainly seem some obvious holes that would waste development time confirming11:59
ikoniaor is it not something that crops up often enough to warrent concern11:59
ikoniaI'm seeing it quite key because this users information is totally different than what he's putting in bug reports because he "didn't think" 11:59
ikoniabut one user does not a problem make12:00
yofelthe releavant page is https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting - but that hasn't been updated since lucid or so, and it's mostly focused on apport which isn't the case today12:00
Riddelland of course most bugs should go upstream unless you have reason to think it's a kubuntu specific one12:01
ikoniathat's probably more of a valid point than I'd considered12:01
ikoniamost of the issue I'm seeing shouldn't really be seen by someone working on the upstream process though as they are just nonsense and lacking solid info 12:02
ikoniathat however is not your problem, thank you for the thoughts, 12:02
Riddellit is if we don't get bug reports upstream when they should be12:03
ikoniaI agree with that, but if the bug report to upstream is "I'm using kubuntu 12.10 and blah isn't working" then you find out it's a bodged 12.04 with some 12.10 packages and some manual hacks, it's a wate of everyones time12:03
ikoniaI'll ponder how to best address it12:04
Riddellupstream should ideally have a page with info for each distro even if it's just a link back to us, but like the "where to download kde" question it's fiddly to solve right12:04
ikoniathat would be a good bit of info yes12:04
ikoniaor maybe each distro valide it's an upstream bug and pass on with solid info12:04
ikoniabut then that's a resource/time waste12:04
Riddellyeah that's why we gave up on doing that12:05
ikoniaoh, so you did try that12:05
Riddellthat's still the preferred way in ubuntu and debian and the like, it means most bugs just end up rotting12:06
ikoniathat may explain the 20,0000000000000+ in launchpad12:08
ryanakcaapachelogger: I can't forward everybody from #kubuntu-bugs to #kubuntu-devel without being an op in #kubuntu-devel according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorGuide#Forwarding_Users12:09
ryanakca(and my attempts at doing so)12:09
ikoniaryanakca: I can get that sorted for you if you want ?12:10
ryanakcaikonia: Sure, if you want12:10
Riddellikonia: you have super powers on freenode?12:10
ikoniait's fine if you're in the middle of it, but I needed to speak to some of the council chaps on something else so I can request it while I'm there12:10
ikoniaRiddell: ha ha, not at all12:10
ikoniaonly certain channels12:10
Riddelloh I can just give ryanakca ops on this channel but I don't recall how right now12:11
ikonia /msg chanserv op ryanakca 12:11
ikonia /msg chanserv op #kubuntu-devel ryanakca 12:12
Riddell13:11 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Channel ryanakca is not registered.12:12
ikonia(sorry missed out the name of the channel)12:12
ryanakcaor /op ryanakca12:12
ryanakcaikonia: Feel like joining #kubuntu-bugs to test?12:12
ikonia13:12 -!- Cannot join to channel #kubuntu-bugs (You are banned)12:13
ikoniayou sure......12:13
ikoniamay want to check those settings ;)12:13
ryanakca /mode #kubuntu-bugs +b *@*$#kubuntu-devel12:13
ikoniano no12:13
ikoniathat's a ban forward12:13
ikoniayou want a channel forward12:13
ikoniathere is a different syntax I think 12:14
ikoniaahhh I wonder if I can't join as I'm in here12:14
ikoniahang on 12:14
ikoniathere you go 12:14
ikoniaI was already in here so it failed12:15
ryanakcaikonia: Excellent, thanks!12:15
ryanakcaikonia: Could you please remove ubot2 from -bugs ?12:15
ikonia(just checking)12:16
* ryanakca nods12:16
ikoniano problem, just requested it's removal12:16
ikoniatake a few minutes12:17
ikonia(only a few people have access to the physical server it runs on )12:17
yofelryanakca: can you do the same thing with #kubuntu-testers? That channel is equally useless12:17
ikoniaguys instead of forwarding, may I just suggest having them closed/set to invite only12:17
ikoniaalthough a forward is fine12:18
ryanakcayofel: I don't have access to that channel, only Hobbsee and mhb do.12:19
ryanakcaGiven that nickserv hasn't seen mhb in over a year, Hobbsee is your only bet :)12:19
* Riddell wonders how to give ryanakca permanant op powers12:22
ikoniaryanakca: access list flats12:22
ikonia /set 12:22
ikoniathat was meant for riddle cleawrly12:22
ryanakca /msg chanserv access #kubuntu-bugs add foo OP12:24
ryanakcawhere foo is the nick12:24
Riddellryanakca: done12:24
ryanakcaRiddell: Thanks12:25
ikoniaryanakca: that's useful to know, I didn't know op was an alias chanserv would take when setting flags12:32
yofelin docbooks, the authors don't automatically have the copyright over the docs, but only if they put themselves in the <copyright> section as well, right?12:44
Riddellyofel: I'm not sure what you mean, authors always have copyright over what they write (unless it's under employment)12:46
Riddellbut debian/copyright can't get every single author especially if they don't give themselves credit12:46
yofelRiddell: I'm wondering about the kmix one: http://paste.kde.org/494648 - only one author is in the copyright, and one copyright holder isn't in the authors section12:47
yofelso I'm wondering what to put in debian/copyright12:47
apacheloggerRiddell: re under contract ... depends on the country12:47
apacheloggerRiddell: e.g. france doesn't have copyright assignment12:48
Riddellapachelogger: probably but I didn't say contract I said employment12:48
Riddellit's not assignment it's just what happens with employment (in juristication I'm familiar with there's probably exceptions)12:49
apacheloggerah, true, though I don't remember the details anyway12:49
Riddellyofel: Documentation copyright &copy; 2010 Gaurav Chaturvedi12:49
Riddellwould be good enough for me12:49
apacheloggerRiddell, yofel: how about just mentioning that documentation copyright lies with their individual authors?12:50
apacheloggeras general purpose solution12:51
yofelwell, I'm *trying* to use dep5, and that doesn't allow such a vague formulation. I'll just put them all in12:51
apacheloggeryofel: it doesn't?12:51
RiddellI wouldn't accept that in debian/copyright as an archive admin, a name is better than just "whoever wrote it"12:52
apacheloggeryofel: Formatted text, no synopsis: one or more free-form copyright statement(s). 12:52
yofelah, true12:53
apacheloggerRiddell: both the source and the compiled html contains the information12:53
* yofel re-reads12:53
apacheloggerRiddell: explicitly stating the copyright12:53
yofelapachelogger: that's exactly what the copyright file should tell you though without reading those12:53
apacheloggersay documentation was initially written 5 years ago by 3 people, translated in 15 languages, the software was since released twice a year every year, betwen releases per language one additional author slammed in a piece of new documentation12:57
apacheloggerthat is 153 attributions for documentation alone12:57
apacheloggerapply the same to translations you have 303 attributions for localization12:58
apacheloggerimagine that is dragon ... which has something like 5k sloc, and ~5 attributed copyright holders13:00
apacheloggersay one attribution check takes you on average one minute, after 5 years you spend 300 minutes checking attributions on a signle package :P13:05
BluesKajhey all13:07
* yofel blelieve he spent 300 minutes just checking attribution in nepomuk-core *once*13:07
yofel*believes -.-13:07
apacheloggermy point exactly13:08
apacheloggeraso what the policy says about that13:08
apachelogger"In addition, the copyright file must say where the upstream sources (if any) were obtained, and should name the original authors."13:08
apacheloggermind the should and authors13:08
apacheloggerattributed copyright holder ~= author, if you want to do it properly you'd have to also track unattributed contributions by going through the vcs or something :P13:09
yofelare we going to bother uploading beta1 to quantal? If not I won't repackage stuff to add license copies13:09
apacheloggeryofel: is sufficient stuff packaged to make it testable?13:10
* apachelogger should pack -.-13:10
yofelfrom what I see only multimedia stuff is missing13:10
yofeland broken bindings13:10
apacheloggerthrow it in some public PPA then so people can do testing, then upload b2 to quantal13:11
apacheloggeroh, isn't b2 tagging today?13:11
yofelit is IIRC13:12
yofelwe *should* hurry up a bit ^^13:12
* apachelogger points out that unlike ubuntu kde actually has an ics file :P13:12
apacheloggeryofel: no time to hurry up, must attribute documenters in detail :P13:13
yofelwell, so far nepomuk is the only license mess I've encountered13:13
yofelrest is ~fine~13:13
CIA-44[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kmix] Philip Muškovac * 1 * (15 files in 4 dirs) import kmix packaging13:25
CIA-44[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer] Philip Muškovac * 34 * debian/ (changelog control rules) * New upstream beta release * Drop transitional kdegraphics-strigi-plugins package, moved to meta-kde * Add -dbg package13:38
JontheEchidnaso after alpha1 today we're set to start uploading 4.8.80 to the archive?14:43
Riddellwell once 4.8.80 is done and tested in ninjas14:45
JontheEchidnaI guess I'll run a test install from ninjas then ;-)14:50
JontheEchidnahmm, dist-upgrade w/ ninjas wants to remove kubuntu-desktop14:53
JontheEchidnaDepends: kdemultimedia-kio-plugins, but it is not installable14:54
Riddelluh oh14:54
Riddellah, I'll add in a transition package for that then14:54
yofelkdepim done?14:57
yofel(that's what I'm waiting for before upgrading)14:57
Riddellyofel: worked for me yes14:57
debfxI hope someone is still running 4.8.3 to test 4.8.4 once kdepim finished building :)15:06
JontheEchidnaMy computer at work has 4.8.3, but I've been out sick yesterday and today, so I've not been able to test15:11
BluesKajdebfx, yes , I'm also on 12.10 tho 15:11
* JontheEchidna runs off to town to get some more cold medicine15:13
bulldog98yofel: that’s for the kapman to be linked against the libkdegamesprivate15:17
bulldog98yofel: for making it depend against the exact version of that, that’s what the debian guys told me to do with libkdegamesprivate15:18
ulyssesHello, I installed Rocs on Precise, and the toolbar buttons don't have icons: http://imageshack.us/f/232/rocsprecise.png/15:43
Riddellsounds like a beastie15:45
ulyssesthe icons are installed, but Rocs doesn't use them15:45
yofelfun, I have those, but here rocs itself has no application icon15:46
ulyssesthat's an upstream bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29933215:46
ubottuKDE bug 299332 in icons "Application Icon for Rocs" [Wishlist,New: ]15:46
annma_some icons exists15:47
annma_Top Center Base Left Right have icons15:47
annma_ulysses: what does Torles mean?15:48
ulyssesannma_: Delete15:48
annma_it has an icon15:48
annma_what version is it?15:48
ulyssesRocs 1.6.0, KDE 4.8.3, Qt 4.8.115:49
ulyssesKubuntu 12.04 with standard repositories15:49
annma_1.60 KDE 4.8.315:50
annma_ulysses: the bug report you mentioned is for the Application icon, not the toolbar icons15:51
CIA-44[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde] Philip Muškovac * 39 * debian/ (changelog control) Add meta package for kdemultimedia15:58
ulyssesannma_: I see16:02
ulyssesno idea or question?16:26
ulyssesannma_: I wanted to mention this bug report: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29933216:27
ubottuKDE bug 299332 in icons "Application Icon for Rocs" [Wishlist,New: ]16:27
ulyssesbut that is still not relevant16:27
annma_this is the application icon16:28
annma_not the toolbar icons16:28
annma_the application icon is the one that appears in the K menu and on top left of the window16:29
annma_all toolbar icons exist16:29
annma_you saw my screenshot, right?16:29
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ulyssesyes, I saw, and the toolbar icons exist here too, but Rocs doesn't use them16:30
annmathose icons are specific for rocs16:31
annmaso Kubuntuis missing them or your installation is wrong16:31
ulyssesthe icons are in /usr/share/kde4/apps/rocs/icons/hicolor/16:32
annmafor me they are in $KDEDIR/share/apps/rocs/icons/hicolor/16:35
annma$KDEDIR is like your /usr16:35
annmamine is different16:36
CIA-44[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/audiocd-kio] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/ (changelog control rules) * drop direct dependency on libkcddb4 for audiocd-kio * make transitional package pull audiocd-kio in * add debug package16:36
ulysses$KDEDIR is empty for me16:36
yofelthat's unset by default16:36
annmaulysses: $KDEDIR doe snot matter here16:37
annmathe rest of the path matters16:37
annmayou have a kde4/ I don't have it16:37
annmain the path16:37
annmaI build and install from kde sources16:38
ulyssesI installed with the package manager16:38
annmalook in  /usr/share/kde4/apps/ for other programs that have an icons/ folder and look if those other programs show their icons16:39
annmaI am saying that it is either a packaging bug or on your installation something is wrong16:40
annmayou need to find out what is wrong as the icons are there16:40
ulyssesDolphin has a dolphinui.rc, Kate has 16x16 icons, Okular has 16x16 and 32x32 icons16:41
annmaonly apps with specific icons will have icons there16:42
annmageneric icons are elsewhere16:43
annmaKate has only generic icons16:43
annmatry another Edu app if you have one, KLettres for example16:43
ulyssesapt-cache policy rocs says it is 4.8.216:43
ulyssesbut kate is 4.8.3 e.g16:44
CIA-44[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/audiocd-kio] Philip Muškovac * 4 * debian/copyright fix copyright syntax16:48
ulyssesI asked someone to install Rocs, he has Ubuntu and the icons appears for him16:53
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ulyssesannma: KLettres screenshot: http://imageshack.us/f/189/kelttres.png/16:57
annmaicons missing16:57
CIA-44[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/audiocd-kio] Philip Muškovac * 5 * debian/ (7 files) * add libaudiocdplugins4 and audiocd-kio-dev packages * add missing install files * used versioned breaks/replaces against kdemultimedia-kio-plugins16:58
annmathe icons exist since ages, I am the KLettresdevel so I know16:58
annmaulysses: your installation has a problem16:58
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1004593] LFE disappears on 5.1, 4.0 has LFE channel, high pitched squeals (bit shifting?), several ... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1004593 (by Abraham Mara)17:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1004593 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "LFE disappears on 5.1, 4.0 has LFE channel, high pitched squeals (bit shifting?), several versions" [Undecided,Opinion]17:09
yofelapachelogger: did you make kubotu overly verbose?17:13
BluesKajmust be analog LFE 17:14
yofelRiddell: while dep5 is lax in a few places, please note that the rule for empty lines is the same as in the control file17:16
CIA-44[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/ffmpegthumbs] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control copyright) * add libswscale-dev and pkg-config to build-depends * fix copyright syntax17:17
* yofel dives into 4.8.8018:01
JontheEchidnamy upgrade's almost done, so far so good18:05
JontheEchidnaI don't think I've ever had a KDE +1 release go so smoothly. :)18:06
yofelkde-base-artwork is missing and according to the widget I have no battery, but works otherwise18:20
yofel(the upgrade went without errors btw XD)18:24
annmathe battery missing is fixed18:24
annmawe reverted a commit18:24
yofelah, then perfect :)18:25
annmathe Quality Team we set up is working hard18:25
annmaif yo uhave bugs to submit don't forget to set up the version and if it's a regression you can add the keyword "regression"18:28
yofelwill do18:39
shadeslayeryofel: strangely enough that bug was present in neon as well18:42
shadeslayeroh wait, it's in KDE 4.8.3 as well18:42
shadeslayeryofel: is all of 4.8.80 done?18:50
yofelmost of it so it's upgradable18:50
yofeloh, pairs is missig18:50
shadeslayeryofel: are you working on calligra/digikam?18:51
afiestasanybody knows if gtalk is working on old good kopete?18:51
afiestas(Kubuntu 12.04)18:51
shadeslayerit should18:51
yofelcalligra, feel free to take digikam if you want, but make it close #88532418:51
afiestasshadeslayer: can you test it? or are youusing it?18:51
shadeslayeryeah, I was looking at that bug :)18:51
afiestasbecause it doesn't for me, no error so far18:51
shadeslayerafiestas: let me test18:51
shadeslayerafiestas: which KDE version?18:52
afiestasmm whatever kubuntu 12.04 has18:52
afiestasin master it works for sure I have it configured in my workstation for when ktp breaks xd18:52
shadeslayerafiestas: yes, wfm18:56
shadeslayerMamarok: Happy Birthday! :D18:56
shadeslayerafiestas: works for em18:56
kubotushadeslayer meant: "afiestas: works for me"18:56
Mamarokshadeslayer: thank you, you are just 3 hours early :)18:57
shadeslayerstupid humans and their time zones18:57
afiestasshadeslayer: talk.google.com, 5223 and al 3 checkboxes checked?18:57
shadeslayerafiestas: heh, yeah :D18:57
afiestasmaybe after update18:57
shadeslayerafiestas: this is on 4.8.318:58
afiestasafter all the fine-tunning I've done to my worksation, KDE defaults seems mmmm18:58
afiestasdon't wanna say something ugly but ,mmmm moderately horrible?18:59
afiestasfor my taste ofc18:59
starbuckafiestas: docs or stfu :P19:02
afiestasstarbuck: I'd rather do patches to change the defaults  :p19:03
afiestassince I will have to work on the laptop for the rest of the week I will have time to check what I have changed in the workstation and needs to be changed upstream 19:04
skaetRiddell,   Alpha 1's now published.19:09
afiestasshadeslayer: update + restart fixed the kopete thing19:16
afiestaslet's see if rekonq wants to play youtube videos now (sans flash)19:16
shadeslayerdoubt it19:17
JontheEchidnamy 4.8.80 upgrade seems to have gone well :)19:17
JontheEchidnaaside from the battery regression mentioned earlier19:17
afiestaswhat's is this package-updater pckager?19:19
annmabattery bug report is https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30103319:19
ubottuKDE bug 301033 in widget-battery "Battery Not present" [Critical,Resolved: fixed]19:19
shadeslayerthose black buttons look so out of place19:19
JontheEchidnaafiestas: that'll download flash for you19:20
afiestasI didn't ask for it :S19:20
JontheEchidnaapparently you did...19:21
afiestasI mean, I click on the thing because it said "updates"19:21
afiestasand I do want updates, I don't consider flash one xD19:21
JontheEchidnayofel, Riddell: now that the archive is open again and we have (at least) two confirmed good upgrades to 4.8.80 from ninjas, I'll start uploading the packages to quantal19:24
JontheEchidnafeel free to join in ;-)19:24
shadeslayeryofel: any reason why you have a copyright in digikam-2.5.0/debian/copyright ?19:24
yofelJontheEchidna: wait19:24
yofelpairs should be added to kdeutils metapackage in meta-kde19:25
yofelit's not packaged yet though19:25
yofelbut adding it should be fine19:25
JontheEchidnathat would technically make the kdeutils package uninstallable19:26
yofelshadeslayer: because we never merged from debian after I re-packaged 2.0 I think19:26
yofeland I've dumped copyright assignment19:26
JontheEchidnawouldn't it be better to wait until it's packaged, and then do a new release of meta-kde with paris included?19:26
yofelwell, currently meta-kde has kdemultimedia too, which is uninstallable as well until audiocd-kio is through SOURCE NEW19:27
DaskreechHi just checking in on the build status for KDE 4.8.8019:27
yofelso I don't think it matters much19:27
shadeslayerDaskreech: we're just discussing what's left19:27
yofelwe'll have held packages in any case19:27
JontheEchidnayeah, probably not that important in an alpha19:28
yofelJontheEchidna: sorry, pairs is kdeedu19:29
JontheEchidnaah, right19:29
JontheEchidnaI'll start by throwing kde4libs up, then your or me or whoever can do the meta-kde update19:29
Daskreechshadeslayer: ah that's what I was picking up on :)19:29
yofelI'll do it then19:30
JontheEchidnasounds good19:30
JontheEchidnayofel: do we remove the "a" suffix on the upstream versions?19:31
yofelI don't think so19:31
JontheEchidnathat would kind of screw -ninjas users19:32
yofeldid we have anything new otherwise? kdemultimedia is there, I added paris, and kde-base-artwork belongs into kubuntu-meta IMO19:32
JontheEchidnaI think that's it for new stuff19:33
* yofel wonders how often he already mistyped that...19:34
DaskreechI'll check in later19:34
CIA-44[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde] Philip Muškovac * 40 * debian/ (changelog control) releasing version 5:76~pre1ubuntu119:35
yofelDaskreech: we're uploading now, but things might be broken for a while as there are several new package again that replace older ones19:36
JontheEchidnabtw, looks like Debian's going to do qt3 removal this weekend19:37
debfxyofel: we might want to name the binary package of kde-base-artwork like the source package19:37
yofeldidn't we?19:37
debfxah it's not uploaded at all19:38
yofelI mean the dependency on it (if what I said was ambigous)19:38
debfxin bzr I called it kde-ksplash-default but I think kde-base-artwork would be better19:39
JontheEchidnabtw, I did a reboot after the 4.8.80 upgrade and didn't get a ksplash19:41
debfxright, because kde-base-artwork is missing19:41
yofelbecause the new one is in kde-base-artwork19:41
JontheEchidnaah, ok19:41
debfxwe probably don't want to split the files in kde-base-artwork in multiple packages19:42
CIA-44[kdelibs] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607195116-20fpgc37jmywca7j * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu119:51
JontheEchidnahmm: kmix: error while loading shared libraries: libkdeinit4_kmix.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory19:56
CIA-44[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kmix] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/kmix.install add missing libkdeinit4 files20:00
yofelthat's what happens if you rewrite the install file and have not-installed still in place...20:00
shadeslayerheh, fun, VKontakte seems to be disabled and yet the install files and the appropriate rules seem to be in place20:09
shadeslayerhah, the series file doesn't apply the patch20:10
CIA-44[kactivities] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607202106-ckr8pt5cbl7314w6 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu120:21
CIA-44[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/pairs] Philip Muškovac * 1 * (11 files in 3 dirs) import pairs packaging20:21
yofel/tmp/buildd/calligra-2.4.90/plugins/reporting/maps/KoReportItemMaps.h:32:26: fatal error: MarbleWidget.h: No such file or directory20:25
yofeldo they enjoy making calligra fail to build because of marble for just about every release? -.-20:25
CIA-44[kdepimlibs] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607202622-54bsa2feq2bbyzj9 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu120:26
CIA-44[kate] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607203818-duqizbm5y6ftc1o9 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu120:38
JontheEchidnayofel: should soprano have been uploaded at this point?20:40
* JontheEchidna fears that he dun goofed >.>20:41
yofelwell, probably for kdepimlibs20:42
yofelconsidering we're almost at 4.8.85, I would just upload soprano now and fix things later20:42
yofeliirc there's only one thing that depends on newest soprano anyway20:43
JontheEchidnahmm, I can't seem to download soprano from ninjas via the web interface20:51
JontheEchidnayofel: would you mind uploading it to quantal?20:51
yofelcan't, needs universe upload rights20:51
yofelah wait20:51
yofelcan do20:51
JontheEchidnahttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+files/soprano_2.7.56%2Bdfsg.1-0ubuntu1~ppa2.dsc is what I tried, but it does some sort of 40420:52
yofelyou can't dget from ninjas20:52
* yofel uses apt-get source20:52
JontheEchidnaI'm just trying to click the link on the ppa website :P20:53
yofeloh, dunno ^^20:53
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: via chrome?20:53
JontheEchidnathought that's a good point, I should set up a deb-src entry to avoid this in the future20:53
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: yeah20:53
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: bug in chrome iirc20:53
shadeslayera really old one20:53
shadeslayeruse rekonq20:53
debfxor use the new pull-ninjas-source from kubuntu-dev-tools20:54
CIA-44[libkdcraw] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607211336-kzu2f1vzifr5941l * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu121:13
shadeslayerAnyone planning to ARM builds?21:14
* shadeslayer has to check if digikam 2.6.0 compiles21:14
CIA-44[libkexiv2] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607211745-rx5sz18vy2wkl2r5 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu121:17
CIA-44[libksane] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607212020-dwqnmgf2993kqc87 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu121:20
CIA-44[libkdeedu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607212323-g7axr8su7tksbupl * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu121:23
* yofel wonders why dpkg doesn't depend on quilt if you're using 3.0 (quilt) ...21:23
micahgyofel: internal implementation AIUI21:23
CIA-44[libkcompactdisc] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607212554-qicc368s2w69keex * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu121:26
yofelseems to be so indeed, that explains some things21:27
CIA-44[libkcddb] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607212824-6i0alxq0u29gkzk1 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu121:28
CIA-44[libkipi] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607213020-xfm8ewbxcttzsi1b * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu121:30
CIA-44[kde-baseapps] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607213557-88fe4gj4kb0jub8v * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu121:36
shadeslayerScottK: how come there's no pkg-kde-tools installed on the arm boxes?21:39
CIA-44[nepomuk-core] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607213947-8nxzzorts8n8k0jn * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu121:39
ScottKshadeslayer: IIRC, there is.  Perhaps it's just not new enough.21:40
shadeslayerdh: unable to load addon kde: Can't locate Debian/Debhelper/Sequence/kde.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 8) line 2.21:41
ScottKpkg-kde-tools_0.9.3ubuntu4_all.deb is installed.21:41
shadeslayerwhoa, that's *old*21:42
yofeldebfx: are you going to upload pkg-kde-tools?21:43
ScottKCurrent pkg-kde-tools needs a newer dpkg than is available there.21:43
* ScottK has to go soon, so feel free to update it.21:44
CIA-44[okular] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607214426-qalp3e40tll8fdxa * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu121:44
shadeslayerCan't even emulate armel using qemu on my VPS because it'll cry about running out of memory21:45
shadeslayerScottK: just needs a newer dpkg?21:45
ScottKYes, but I don't want to backport dpkg.21:46
ScottKMaybe you can make it work well enough without libdpkg-perl21:46
BluesKajgot a ppa for 4.8.4 ?21:46
shadeslayerI'm too scared to backport dpkg because if I mess it up it'll render the system unusable21:46
shadeslayer*it might render the 21:47
yofelit is in ninjas for precise21:47
shadeslayerbtw is there a script that uploads all the new tars?21:48
shadeslayeror do you do it by hand?21:48
yofelyou mean archive uploads?21:48
yofelI work half-automated from bzr using this: http://paste.kde.org/495104/ 21:49
BluesKajyofel, ok , so I'll stay out of it on quantal ... I have precise on the other drive , so I'll switch over 21:50
yofelquantal is just getting 4.8.8021:50
BluesKajyes , I have it21:50
JontheEchidnamost of the first-level blue nodes are up now21:51
JontheEchidnaI won't be able to do workspace due to my crappy connection21:52
yofelI'll do oxygen-icons, that'll keep me busy for a bit21:52
shadeslayer-> sleep, digikam still building, will test and upload tomorrow21:53
CIA-44[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/oxygen-icons] Philip Muškovac * 101 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu122:00
Daskreechyofel: Back ;) thanks. I'm showing KDE off at a Conference this weekend (Konference?) and decided to use Kubuntu. Others are doing Debian and Fedora. Hopefully I can get KDE 4.9 installed by say mid day tomorrow so I can play with it and know what not to show off as it crashes. I think Debian can handle the KDE 4.8 series fine22:03
RiddellDaskreech: dunno how soon backports will be done22:15
RiddellI'd like to do them first thing tomorrow but they always take longer than expected22:15
DaskreechOf course they do :)22:17
DaskreechRiddell: I may consider the hairy choice of jumping to +1 to get 4.8.8022:18
RiddellI'm having no problems with the alpha of +122:19
Riddelland you can install it from ninjas if necessary22:19
Riddelldebfx: 4.8.4 is out22:21
genii-aroundDaskreech: 22:24
Daskreechhi genii-around 22:25
* genii-around makes more coffee22:25
DaskreechCoffee is good22:47

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