| Riddell | morning | 06:51 |
|---|---|---|
| Riddell | apachelogger: sure put amarok beta on kubuntu.org if you want | 06:51 |
| jdrab | hi guys is this type of warnings/notices somehow important? KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry _whatever_ in "some_desktop_filel.desktop" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon)? | 06:57 |
| Riddell | jdrab: nope but feel free to add in the semicolon if it bothers you | 07:01 |
| jdrab | ty Riddell | 07:02 |
| jdrab | it doesn't bother me but it looks ugly in konsole :P | 07:03 |
| Riddell | turn off debugging in kdebugdialog if it's annoying, it's off by default (or should be) for that reason | 07:03 |
| Riddell | debfx: did you say there was a package missing a copying file? | 08:21 |
| debfx | Riddell: kde-base-artwork | 08:22 |
| debfx | and audiocd-kio doesn't have a license for its docs | 08:23 |
| debfx | same for libkcddb and probably some others | 08:24 |
| Riddell | debfx: hum any idea where kde-base-artwork is upstream? | 08:26 |
| debfx | Riddell: it's in svn | 08:27 |
| debfx | apparently git can't handle large wallpapers | 08:27 |
| Riddell | kde-base-artwork done | 08:31 |
| debfx | yay | 08:36 |
| debfx | so today is 4.8.4 release day and we have one broken and one semi-broken tarball ... | 08:37 |
| tazz | fun | 08:37 |
| Riddell | debfx: is that actually going to be released? not waiting on more patches? | 08:40 |
| debfx | they are not public yet so there is still hope that they will be fixed | 08:42 |
| annma | hi, are they packages for Kubuntu for 4.8.80? | 09:06 |
| Riddell | annma: we're working on them, you need them by the weekend? | 09:08 |
| annma | users ask them | 09:08 |
| annma | well beta2 will be tagged | 09:08 |
| annma | so no need to work on beta1 | 09:08 |
| annma | I thought I saw a bug report from Kubuntu with 4.8.80 so I wanted to be sure there are none | 09:09 |
| Riddell | oh there's still need, I'm fixing problems with beta 1 right now (upstream licencing, distro packaging etc) | 09:09 |
| Riddell | no public ones yet | 09:09 |
| annma | OK I'll answer the user, thanks a lot Riddell | 09:10 |
| yofel_ | bulldog98: what's "libpkgs_gen_strict_local_shlibs = kapman" ? | 09:21 |
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| yofel | nvm | 09:35 |
| yofel | bulldog98: why did you add that though? | 09:41 |
| yofel | hm, did DEB_NO_COMPRESSION=1 loose it's effect? Here all packages are xz compressed anyway. | 09:52 |
| yofel | kubotu: newversion digikam 2.6.0 http://sourceforge.net/projects/digikam/files/digikam/2.6.0/ | 10:54 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1009943 | 10:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1009943 in digikam (Ubuntu) "Please update digikam to 2.6.0" [Undecided,New] | 10:54 |
| apachelogger | Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Error loading 'apturl %u'. | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | no goody goody | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | yofel: dunno, amarok had a manual xz entry | 11:08 |
| apachelogger | which then of course overrides whatever pkg-kde does | 11:08 |
| debfx | yofel: you need to set DEB_NO_XZ=1 | 11:10 |
| yofel | ah, thx | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | wah? | 11:11 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 11:11 |
| apachelogger | sicne when? | 11:11 |
| apachelogger | and why? | 11:11 |
| yofel | well, the current equivalent for DEB_NO_LZMA I guess | 11:11 |
| debfx | since I uploaded pkg-kde-tools to the ninjas ppa | 11:11 |
| debfx | it's not in the archive yet due to beta freeze | 11:11 |
| apachelogger | yeah, but where is that var name change from? | 11:12 |
| debfx | I changed the compression from lzma to xz | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | mhhh | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | debfx: please compat var handling | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | lzma is algorithm equivalent to xz, no point in explicitly requiring everyone to change their rcs | 11:13 |
| debfx | hm yeah we should change the var handling anyway | 11:17 |
| debfx | DEB_NO_COMPRESSION=1 shouldn't require DEB_NO_{XZ,LZMA} | 11:18 |
| * yofel wonders what the point of libkdegamesprivate is | 11:20 | |
| yofel | it's full of public symbols, which were in libkdegames before mostly | 11:20 |
| * Peace- packaged on ppa plasma pannel collection | 11:20 | |
| Riddell | yofel: no abi compatibility usually? | 11:20 |
| apachelogger | yofel: share symbols across kde games, while not being abi compat | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | hence why it is private | 11:21 |
| yofel | nah, they bumped the SOVERSION of libkdegames to 6 | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | yofel: because they moved the symbols | 11:21 |
| yofel | ah well, let's see what happens | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | apparently the symbols are only useful to a very specific set of apps in kdegames, so they created a lib for those symbols | 11:22 |
| yofel | ah, that makes sense then | 11:24 |
| CIA-44 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegames] Philip Muškovac * 155 * debian/ (22 files) (log message trimmed) | 11:30 |
| CIA-44 | * New upstream beta release - drop packages for libraries that were removed | 11:30 |
| CIA-44 | upstream: + libkggzgames4 + libkggzmod4 + libkggznet4 - switch libkdegames5a | 11:30 |
| yofel | Riddell: do we have a kde-l10n packaging equivalent for calligra-l10n or did you upload those by hand so far? | 11:46 |
| Riddell | yofel: I think I just did it by hand | 11:48 |
| yofel | ok | 11:49 |
| Riddell | bash for loops make it easy to do for me | 11:49 |
| yofel | yeah, that's what I'll do too unless you've got a script lying around? | 11:49 |
| Riddell | I don't | 11:50 |
| yofel | k | 11:50 |
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| ikonia | guys, have you got/considered writing a guide to "how to give us a bug report" eg: the info needed, the steps you would want doing / confirming before the bug even hits you | 11:55 |
| ikonia | I'm struggling to guide someone in how to give you valid/solid info, and wondered if you had anything written up | 11:56 |
| Riddell | there probabaly are bits but out of date | 11:58 |
| Riddell | and hidden in a wiki somewhere | 11:58 |
| yofel | hum, we do have a bug reporting page, but that's so old it's better not to point people to that | 11:58 |
| ikonia | I'm seeing some pretty big holes trying to guide this user, would it be helpful to put something together, I've certainly seem some obvious holes that would waste development time confirming | 11:59 |
| ikonia | or is it not something that crops up often enough to warrent concern | 11:59 |
| ikonia | I'm seeing it quite key because this users information is totally different than what he's putting in bug reports because he "didn't think" | 11:59 |
| ikonia | but one user does not a problem make | 12:00 |
| yofel | the releavant page is https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting - but that hasn't been updated since lucid or so, and it's mostly focused on apport which isn't the case today | 12:00 |
| Riddell | and of course most bugs should go upstream unless you have reason to think it's a kubuntu specific one | 12:01 |
| ikonia | that's probably more of a valid point than I'd considered | 12:01 |
| ikonia | most of the issue I'm seeing shouldn't really be seen by someone working on the upstream process though as they are just nonsense and lacking solid info | 12:02 |
| ikonia | that however is not your problem, thank you for the thoughts, | 12:02 |
| Riddell | it is if we don't get bug reports upstream when they should be | 12:03 |
| ikonia | I agree with that, but if the bug report to upstream is "I'm using kubuntu 12.10 and blah isn't working" then you find out it's a bodged 12.04 with some 12.10 packages and some manual hacks, it's a wate of everyones time | 12:03 |
| ikonia | I'll ponder how to best address it | 12:04 |
| Riddell | upstream should ideally have a page with info for each distro even if it's just a link back to us, but like the "where to download kde" question it's fiddly to solve right | 12:04 |
| ikonia | that would be a good bit of info yes | 12:04 |
| ikonia | or maybe each distro valide it's an upstream bug and pass on with solid info | 12:04 |
| ikonia | but then that's a resource/time waste | 12:04 |
| Riddell | yeah that's why we gave up on doing that | 12:05 |
| ikonia | oh, so you did try that | 12:05 |
| Riddell | that's still the preferred way in ubuntu and debian and the like, it means most bugs just end up rotting | 12:06 |
| ikonia | that may explain the 20,0000000000000+ in launchpad | 12:08 |
| ryanakca | apachelogger: I can't forward everybody from #kubuntu-bugs to #kubuntu-devel without being an op in #kubuntu-devel according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorGuide#Forwarding_Users | 12:09 |
| ryanakca | (and my attempts at doing so) | 12:09 |
| ikonia | ryanakca: I can get that sorted for you if you want ? | 12:10 |
| ryanakca | ikonia: Sure, if you want | 12:10 |
| Riddell | ikonia: you have super powers on freenode? | 12:10 |
| ikonia | it's fine if you're in the middle of it, but I needed to speak to some of the council chaps on something else so I can request it while I'm there | 12:10 |
| ikonia | Riddell: ha ha, not at all | 12:10 |
| ikonia | only certain channels | 12:10 |
| Riddell | oh I can just give ryanakca ops on this channel but I don't recall how right now | 12:11 |
| ikonia | /msg chanserv op ryanakca | 12:11 |
| ryanakca | methinks | 12:11 |
| ryanakca | oops | 12:11 |
| ikonia | /msg chanserv op #kubuntu-devel ryanakca | 12:12 |
| Riddell | 13:11 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Channel ryanakca is not registered. | 12:12 |
| ikonia | (sorry missed out the name of the channel) | 12:12 |
| ryanakca | or /op ryanakca | 12:12 |
| ryanakca | ikonia: Feel like joining #kubuntu-bugs to test? | 12:12 |
| ikonia | sure | 12:12 |
| ikonia | 13:12 -!- Cannot join to channel #kubuntu-bugs (You are banned) | 12:13 |
| ikonia | you sure...... | 12:13 |
| ikonia | may want to check those settings ;) | 12:13 |
| ryanakca | /mode #kubuntu-bugs +b *@*$#kubuntu-devel | 12:13 |
| ryanakca | correct? | 12:13 |
| ikonia | no no | 12:13 |
| ikonia | that's a ban forward | 12:13 |
| ikonia | you want a channel forward | 12:13 |
| ikonia | there is a different syntax I think | 12:14 |
| ikonia | ahhh I wonder if I can't join as I'm in here | 12:14 |
| ikonia | hang on | 12:14 |
| ikonia | perfect | 12:14 |
| ikonia | there you go | 12:14 |
| ikonia | works | 12:14 |
| ikonia | I was already in here so it failed | 12:15 |
| ryanakca | ikonia: Excellent, thanks! | 12:15 |
| ryanakca | ikonia: Could you please remove ubot2 from -bugs ? | 12:15 |
| ikonia | kubuntu-bugs | 12:16 |
| ikonia | (just checking) | 12:16 |
| * ryanakca nods | 12:16 | |
| ikonia | no problem, just requested it's removal | 12:16 |
| ikonia | take a few minutes | 12:17 |
| ikonia | (only a few people have access to the physical server it runs on ) | 12:17 |
| yofel | ryanakca: can you do the same thing with #kubuntu-testers? That channel is equally useless | 12:17 |
| ikonia | guys instead of forwarding, may I just suggest having them closed/set to invite only | 12:17 |
| ikonia | although a forward is fine | 12:18 |
| ryanakca | yofel: I don't have access to that channel, only Hobbsee and mhb do. | 12:19 |
| yofel | ah | 12:19 |
| ryanakca | Given that nickserv hasn't seen mhb in over a year, Hobbsee is your only bet :) | 12:19 |
| * Riddell wonders how to give ryanakca permanant op powers | 12:22 | |
| ikonia | ryanakca: access list flats | 12:22 |
| ikonia | /set | 12:22 |
| ikonia | oops | 12:22 |
| ikonia | that was meant for riddle cleawrly | 12:22 |
| ikonia | clearly | 12:22 |
| ryanakca | /msg chanserv access #kubuntu-bugs add foo OP | 12:24 |
| ryanakca | methinks | 12:24 |
| ryanakca | where foo is the nick | 12:24 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: done | 12:24 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Thanks | 12:25 |
| ikonia | ryanakca: that's useful to know, I didn't know op was an alias chanserv would take when setting flags | 12:32 |
| yofel | in docbooks, the authors don't automatically have the copyright over the docs, but only if they put themselves in the <copyright> section as well, right? | 12:44 |
| Riddell | yofel: I'm not sure what you mean, authors always have copyright over what they write (unless it's under employment) | 12:46 |
| Riddell | but debian/copyright can't get every single author especially if they don't give themselves credit | 12:46 |
| yofel | Riddell: I'm wondering about the kmix one: http://paste.kde.org/494648 - only one author is in the copyright, and one copyright holder isn't in the authors section | 12:47 |
| yofel | so I'm wondering what to put in debian/copyright | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: re under contract ... depends on the country | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: e.g. france doesn't have copyright assignment | 12:48 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: probably but I didn't say contract I said employment | 12:48 |
| Riddell | it's not assignment it's just what happens with employment (in juristication I'm familiar with there's probably exceptions) | 12:49 |
| apachelogger | ah, true, though I don't remember the details anyway | 12:49 |
| Riddell | yofel: Documentation copyright © 2010 Gaurav Chaturvedi | 12:49 |
| Riddell | would be good enough for me | 12:49 |
| apachelogger | Riddell, yofel: how about just mentioning that documentation copyright lies with their individual authors? | 12:50 |
| apachelogger | as general purpose solution | 12:51 |
| yofel | well, I'm *trying* to use dep5, and that doesn't allow such a vague formulation. I'll just put them all in | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | yofel: it doesn't? | 12:51 |
| Riddell | I wouldn't accept that in debian/copyright as an archive admin, a name is better than just "whoever wrote it" | 12:52 |
| apachelogger | yofel: Formatted text, no synopsis: one or more free-form copyright statement(s). | 12:52 |
| yofel | ah, true | 12:53 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: both the source and the compiled html contains the information | 12:53 |
| * yofel re-reads | 12:53 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: explicitly stating the copyright | 12:53 |
| yofel | apachelogger: that's exactly what the copyright file should tell you though without reading those | 12:53 |
| apachelogger | say documentation was initially written 5 years ago by 3 people, translated in 15 languages, the software was since released twice a year every year, betwen releases per language one additional author slammed in a piece of new documentation | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | that is 153 attributions for documentation alone | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | apply the same to translations you have 303 attributions for localization | 12:58 |
| apachelogger | imagine that is dragon ... which has something like 5k sloc, and ~5 attributed copyright holders | 13:00 |
| apachelogger | say one attribution check takes you on average one minute, after 5 years you spend 300 minutes checking attributions on a signle package :P | 13:05 |
| BluesKaj | hey all | 13:07 |
| * yofel blelieve he spent 300 minutes just checking attribution in nepomuk-core *once* | 13:07 | |
| yofel | *believes -.- | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | my point exactly | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | aso what the policy says about that | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | "In addition, the copyright file must say where the upstream sources (if any) were obtained, and should name the original authors." | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | mind the should and authors | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | attributed copyright holder ~= author, if you want to do it properly you'd have to also track unattributed contributions by going through the vcs or something :P | 13:09 |
| yofel | are we going to bother uploading beta1 to quantal? If not I won't repackage stuff to add license copies | 13:09 |
| apachelogger | yofel: is sufficient stuff packaged to make it testable? | 13:10 |
| * apachelogger should pack -.- | 13:10 | |
| yofel | from what I see only multimedia stuff is missing | 13:10 |
| yofel | and broken bindings | 13:10 |
| apachelogger | throw it in some public PPA then so people can do testing, then upload b2 to quantal | 13:11 |
| yofel | +1 | 13:11 |
| apachelogger | oh, isn't b2 tagging today? | 13:11 |
| yofel | it is IIRC | 13:12 |
| yofel | we *should* hurry up a bit ^^ | 13:12 |
| * apachelogger points out that unlike ubuntu kde actually has an ics file :P | 13:12 | |
| apachelogger | yofel: no time to hurry up, must attribute documenters in detail :P | 13:13 |
| yofel | well, so far nepomuk is the only license mess I've encountered | 13:13 |
| yofel | rest is ~fine~ | 13:13 |
| CIA-44 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kmix] Philip Muškovac * 1 * (15 files in 4 dirs) import kmix packaging | 13:25 |
| CIA-44 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer] Philip Muškovac * 34 * debian/ (changelog control rules) * New upstream beta release * Drop transitional kdegraphics-strigi-plugins package, moved to meta-kde * Add -dbg package | 13:38 |
| JontheEchidna | so after alpha1 today we're set to start uploading 4.8.80 to the archive? | 14:43 |
| Riddell | yep | 14:45 |
| Riddell | well once 4.8.80 is done and tested in ninjas | 14:45 |
| JontheEchidna | I guess I'll run a test install from ninjas then ;-) | 14:50 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, dist-upgrade w/ ninjas wants to remove kubuntu-desktop | 14:53 |
| JontheEchidna | Depends: kdemultimedia-kio-plugins, but it is not installable | 14:54 |
| Riddell | uh oh | 14:54 |
| Riddell | ah, I'll add in a transition package for that then | 14:54 |
| yofel | kdepim done? | 14:57 |
| yofel | (that's what I'm waiting for before upgrading) | 14:57 |
| Riddell | yofel: worked for me yes | 14:57 |
| debfx | I hope someone is still running 4.8.3 to test 4.8.4 once kdepim finished building :) | 15:06 |
| JontheEchidna | My computer at work has 4.8.3, but I've been out sick yesterday and today, so I've not been able to test | 15:11 |
| BluesKaj | debfx, yes , I'm also on 12.10 tho | 15:11 |
| * JontheEchidna runs off to town to get some more cold medicine | 15:13 | |
| bulldog98 | yofel: that’s for the kapman to be linked against the libkdegamesprivate | 15:17 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: for making it depend against the exact version of that, that’s what the debian guys told me to do with libkdegamesprivate | 15:18 |
| ulysses | Hello, I installed Rocs on Precise, and the toolbar buttons don't have icons: http://imageshack.us/f/232/rocsprecise.png/ | 15:43 |
| Riddell | sounds like a beastie | 15:45 |
| ulysses | the icons are installed, but Rocs doesn't use them | 15:45 |
| yofel | fun, I have those, but here rocs itself has no application icon | 15:46 |
| ulysses | that's an upstream bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299332 | 15:46 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 299332 in icons "Application Icon for Rocs" [Wishlist,New: ] | 15:46 |
| annma_ | some icons exists | 15:47 |
| annma_ | Top Center Base Left Right have icons | 15:47 |
| annma_ | ulysses: what does Torles mean? | 15:48 |
| ulysses | annma_: Delete | 15:48 |
| annma_ | it has an icon | 15:48 |
| annma_ | what version is it? | 15:48 |
| ulysses | Rocs 1.6.0, KDE 4.8.3, Qt 4.8.1 | 15:49 |
| yofel | release? | 15:49 |
| yofel | (kubuntu) | 15:49 |
| ulysses | Kubuntu 12.04 with standard repositories | 15:49 |
| annma_ | http://wstaw.org/m/2012/06/07/plasma-desktopCOj699.png | 15:49 |
| annma_ | 1.60 KDE 4.8.3 | 15:50 |
| annma_ | ulysses: the bug report you mentioned is for the Application icon, not the toolbar icons | 15:51 |
| CIA-44 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde] Philip Muškovac * 39 * debian/ (changelog control) Add meta package for kdemultimedia | 15:58 |
| ulysses | annma_: I see | 16:02 |
| ulysses | no idea or question? | 16:26 |
| ulysses | annma_: I wanted to mention this bug report: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299332 | 16:27 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 299332 in icons "Application Icon for Rocs" [Wishlist,New: ] | 16:27 |
| ulysses | but that is still not relevant | 16:27 |
| annma_ | this is the application icon | 16:28 |
| annma_ | not the toolbar icons | 16:28 |
| annma_ | the application icon is the one that appears in the K menu and on top left of the window | 16:29 |
| annma_ | all toolbar icons exist | 16:29 |
| annma_ | you saw my screenshot, right? | 16:29 |
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| ulysses | yes, I saw, and the toolbar icons exist here too, but Rocs doesn't use them | 16:30 |
| annma | those icons are specific for rocs | 16:31 |
| annma | so Kubuntuis missing them or your installation is wrong | 16:31 |
| ulysses | the icons are in /usr/share/kde4/apps/rocs/icons/hicolor/ | 16:32 |
| annma | for me they are in $KDEDIR/share/apps/rocs/icons/hicolor/ | 16:35 |
| annma | $KDEDIR is like your /usr | 16:35 |
| annma | mine is different | 16:36 |
| CIA-44 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/audiocd-kio] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/ (changelog control rules) * drop direct dependency on libkcddb4 for audiocd-kio * make transitional package pull audiocd-kio in * add debug package | 16:36 |
| ulysses | $KDEDIR is empty for me | 16:36 |
| yofel | that's unset by default | 16:36 |
| annma | ulysses: $KDEDIR doe snot matter here | 16:37 |
| annma | the rest of the path matters | 16:37 |
| annma | you have a kde4/ I don't have it | 16:37 |
| annma | in the path | 16:37 |
| annma | I build and install from kde sources | 16:38 |
| ulysses | I installed with the package manager | 16:38 |
| annma | look in /usr/share/kde4/apps/ for other programs that have an icons/ folder and look if those other programs show their icons | 16:39 |
| annma | I am saying that it is either a packaging bug or on your installation something is wrong | 16:40 |
| annma | you need to find out what is wrong as the icons are there | 16:40 |
| ulysses | Dolphin has a dolphinui.rc, Kate has 16x16 icons, Okular has 16x16 and 32x32 icons | 16:41 |
| annma | only apps with specific icons will have icons there | 16:42 |
| annma | generic icons are elsewhere | 16:43 |
| annma | Kate has only generic icons | 16:43 |
| annma | try another Edu app if you have one, KLettres for example | 16:43 |
| ulysses | apt-cache policy rocs says it is 4.8.2 | 16:43 |
| ulysses | but kate is 4.8.3 e.g | 16:44 |
| CIA-44 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/audiocd-kio] Philip Muškovac * 4 * debian/copyright fix copyright syntax | 16:48 |
| ulysses | I asked someone to install Rocs, he has Ubuntu and the icons appears for him | 16:53 |
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| ulysses | annma: KLettres screenshot: http://imageshack.us/f/189/kelttres.png/ | 16:57 |
| annma | same | 16:57 |
| annma | icons missing | 16:57 |
| CIA-44 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/audiocd-kio] Philip Muškovac * 5 * debian/ (7 files) * add libaudiocdplugins4 and audiocd-kio-dev packages * add missing install files * used versioned breaks/replaces against kdemultimedia-kio-plugins | 16:58 |
| annma | the icons exist since ages, I am the KLettresdevel so I know | 16:58 |
| annma | ulysses: your installation has a problem | 16:58 |
| ulysses | strange | 16:59 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1004593] LFE disappears on 5.1, 4.0 has LFE channel, high pitched squeals (bit shifting?), several ... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1004593 (by Abraham Mara) | 17:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1004593 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "LFE disappears on 5.1, 4.0 has LFE channel, high pitched squeals (bit shifting?), several versions" [Undecided,Opinion] | 17:09 |
| yofel | apachelogger: did you make kubotu overly verbose? | 17:13 |
| BluesKaj | must be analog LFE | 17:14 |
| yofel | Riddell: while dep5 is lax in a few places, please note that the rule for empty lines is the same as in the control file | 17:16 |
| CIA-44 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/ffmpegthumbs] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control copyright) * add libswscale-dev and pkg-config to build-depends * fix copyright syntax | 17:17 |
| * yofel dives into 4.8.80 | 18:01 | |
| JontheEchidna | my upgrade's almost done, so far so good | 18:05 |
| JontheEchidna | I don't think I've ever had a KDE +1 release go so smoothly. :) | 18:06 |
| yofel | re | 18:19 |
| yofel | kde-base-artwork is missing and according to the widget I have no battery, but works otherwise | 18:20 |
| yofel | (the upgrade went without errors btw XD) | 18:24 |
| annma | the battery missing is fixed | 18:24 |
| annma | we reverted a commit | 18:24 |
| yofel | ah, then perfect :) | 18:25 |
| annma | the Quality Team we set up is working hard | 18:25 |
| annma | if yo uhave bugs to submit don't forget to set up the version and if it's a regression you can add the keyword "regression" | 18:28 |
| yofel | will do | 18:39 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: strangely enough that bug was present in neon as well | 18:42 |
| shadeslayer | oh wait, it's in KDE 4.8.3 as well | 18:42 |
| shadeslayer | nvm | 18:42 |
| shadeslayer | O_O | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: is all of 4.8.80 done? | 18:50 |
| yofel | most of it so it's upgradable | 18:50 |
| shadeslayer | ... | 18:50 |
| yofel | oh, pairs is missig | 18:50 |
| afiestas | mmm | 18:50 |
| yofel | *missing | 18:50 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: are you working on calligra/digikam? | 18:51 |
| afiestas | anybody knows if gtalk is working on old good kopete? | 18:51 |
| afiestas | (Kubuntu 12.04) | 18:51 |
| shadeslayer | it should | 18:51 |
| yofel | calligra, feel free to take digikam if you want, but make it close #885324 | 18:51 |
| afiestas | shadeslayer: can you test it? or are youusing it? | 18:51 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, I was looking at that bug :) | 18:51 |
| afiestas | because it doesn't for me, no error so far | 18:51 |
| shadeslayer | afiestas: let me test | 18:51 |
| afiestas | thx | 18:52 |
| shadeslayer | afiestas: which KDE version? | 18:52 |
| afiestas | mm whatever kubuntu 12.04 has | 18:52 |
| afiestas | in master it works for sure I have it configured in my workstation for when ktp breaks xd | 18:52 |
| shadeslayer | afiestas: yes, wfm | 18:56 |
| afiestas | wfm? | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | Mamarok: Happy Birthday! :D | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | afiestas: works for em | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | s/em/me/ | 18:56 |
| kubotu | shadeslayer meant: "afiestas: works for me" | 18:56 |
| Mamarok | shadeslayer: thank you, you are just 3 hours early :) | 18:57 |
| shadeslayer | stupid humans and their time zones | 18:57 |
| afiestas | shadeslayer: talk.google.com, 5223 and al 3 checkboxes checked? | 18:57 |
| shadeslayer | afiestas: heh, yeah :D | 18:57 |
| afiestas | pse | 18:57 |
| afiestas | maybe after update | 18:57 |
| shadeslayer | afiestas: this is on 4.8.3 | 18:58 |
| afiestas | after all the fine-tunning I've done to my worksation, KDE defaults seems mmmm | 18:58 |
| afiestas | don't wanna say something ugly but ,mmmm moderately horrible? | 18:59 |
| afiestas | xD | 18:59 |
| afiestas | for my taste ofc | 18:59 |
| starbuck | afiestas: docs or stfu :P | 19:02 |
| afiestas | starbuck: I'd rather do patches to change the defaults :p | 19:03 |
| afiestas | since I will have to work on the laptop for the rest of the week I will have time to check what I have changed in the workstation and needs to be changed upstream | 19:04 |
| skaet | Riddell, Alpha 1's now published. | 19:09 |
| afiestas | shadeslayer: update + restart fixed the kopete thing | 19:16 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 19:16 |
| afiestas | let's see if rekonq wants to play youtube videos now (sans flash) | 19:16 |
| shadeslayer | doubt it | 19:17 |
| JontheEchidna | my 4.8.80 upgrade seems to have gone well :) | 19:17 |
| JontheEchidna | aside from the battery regression mentioned earlier | 19:17 |
| afiestas | what's is this package-updater pckager? | 19:19 |
| annma | battery bug report is https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301033 | 19:19 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 301033 in widget-battery "Battery Not present" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] | 19:19 |
| shadeslayer | hah | 19:19 |
| shadeslayer | those black buttons look so out of place | 19:19 |
| afiestas | http://wstaw.org/m/2012/06/07/plasma-windoweddT2070.png | 19:19 |
| JontheEchidna | afiestas: that'll download flash for you | 19:20 |
| afiestas | I didn't ask for it :S | 19:20 |
| JontheEchidna | apparently you did... | 19:21 |
| afiestas | I mean, I click on the thing because it said "updates" | 19:21 |
| afiestas | and I do want updates, I don't consider flash one xD | 19:21 |
| JontheEchidna | yofel, Riddell: now that the archive is open again and we have (at least) two confirmed good upgrades to 4.8.80 from ninjas, I'll start uploading the packages to quantal | 19:24 |
| JontheEchidna | feel free to join in ;-) | 19:24 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: any reason why you have a copyright in digikam-2.5.0/debian/copyright ? | 19:24 |
| yofel | JontheEchidna: wait | 19:24 |
| JontheEchidna | ok | 19:25 |
| yofel | pairs should be added to kdeutils metapackage in meta-kde | 19:25 |
| yofel | it's not packaged yet though | 19:25 |
| yofel | but adding it should be fine | 19:25 |
| JontheEchidna | that would technically make the kdeutils package uninstallable | 19:26 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: because we never merged from debian after I re-packaged 2.0 I think | 19:26 |
| shadeslayer | okie | 19:26 |
| yofel | and I've dumped copyright assignment | 19:26 |
| JontheEchidna | wouldn't it be better to wait until it's packaged, and then do a new release of meta-kde with paris included? | 19:26 |
| JontheEchidna | s/paris/pairs | 19:26 |
| yofel | well, currently meta-kde has kdemultimedia too, which is uninstallable as well until audiocd-kio is through SOURCE NEW | 19:27 |
| Daskreech | Hi just checking in on the build status for KDE 4.8.80 | 19:27 |
| yofel | so I don't think it matters much | 19:27 |
| shadeslayer | Daskreech: we're just discussing what's left | 19:27 |
| yofel | we'll have held packages in any case | 19:27 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, probably not that important in an alpha | 19:28 |
| yofel | hm | 19:28 |
| yofel | JontheEchidna: sorry, pairs is kdeedu | 19:29 |
| JontheEchidna | ah, right | 19:29 |
| JontheEchidna | I'll start by throwing kde4libs up, then your or me or whoever can do the meta-kde update | 19:29 |
| Daskreech | shadeslayer: ah that's what I was picking up on :) | 19:29 |
| yofel | I'll do it then | 19:30 |
| JontheEchidna | sounds good | 19:30 |
| JontheEchidna | yofel: do we remove the "a" suffix on the upstream versions? | 19:31 |
| yofel | I don't think so | 19:31 |
| JontheEchidna | ok | 19:31 |
| JontheEchidna | that would kind of screw -ninjas users | 19:32 |
| yofel | did we have anything new otherwise? kdemultimedia is there, I added paris, and kde-base-artwork belongs into kubuntu-meta IMO | 19:32 |
| JontheEchidna | I think that's it for new stuff | 19:33 |
| yofel | *pairs | 19:34 |
| * yofel wonders how often he already mistyped that... | 19:34 | |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 19:34 |
| Daskreech | I'll check in later | 19:34 |
| CIA-44 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde] Philip Muškovac * 40 * debian/ (changelog control) releasing version 5:76~pre1ubuntu1 | 19:35 |
| yofel | Daskreech: we're uploading now, but things might be broken for a while as there are several new package again that replace older ones | 19:36 |
| JontheEchidna | btw, looks like Debian's going to do qt3 removal this weekend | 19:37 |
| debfx | yofel: we might want to name the binary package of kde-base-artwork like the source package | 19:37 |
| yofel | didn't we? | 19:37 |
| debfx | ah it's not uploaded at all | 19:38 |
| yofel | I mean the dependency on it (if what I said was ambigous) | 19:38 |
| debfx | in bzr I called it kde-ksplash-default but I think kde-base-artwork would be better | 19:39 |
| JontheEchidna | btw, I did a reboot after the 4.8.80 upgrade and didn't get a ksplash | 19:41 |
| debfx | right, because kde-base-artwork is missing | 19:41 |
| yofel | because the new one is in kde-base-artwork | 19:41 |
| JontheEchidna | ah, ok | 19:41 |
| debfx | we probably don't want to split the files in kde-base-artwork in multiple packages | 19:42 |
| CIA-44 | [kdelibs] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607195116-20fpgc37jmywca7j * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu1 | 19:51 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm: kmix: error while loading shared libraries: libkdeinit4_kmix.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 19:56 |
| yofel | *blink* | 19:57 |
| yofel | -.- | 19:58 |
| yofel | sorry | 19:58 |
| CIA-44 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kmix] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/kmix.install add missing libkdeinit4 files | 20:00 |
| yofel | that's what happens if you rewrite the install file and have not-installed still in place... | 20:00 |
| shadeslayer | heh, fun, VKontakte seems to be disabled and yet the install files and the appropriate rules seem to be in place | 20:09 |
| shadeslayer | hah, the series file doesn't apply the patch | 20:10 |
| CIA-44 | [kactivities] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607202106-ckr8pt5cbl7314w6 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu1 | 20:21 |
| CIA-44 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/pairs] Philip Muškovac * 1 * (11 files in 3 dirs) import pairs packaging | 20:21 |
| yofel | /tmp/buildd/calligra-2.4.90/plugins/reporting/maps/KoReportItemMaps.h:32:26: fatal error: MarbleWidget.h: No such file or directory | 20:25 |
| yofel | *headdesk* | 20:25 |
| yofel | do they enjoy making calligra fail to build because of marble for just about every release? -.- | 20:25 |
| CIA-44 | [kdepimlibs] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607202622-54bsa2feq2bbyzj9 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu1 | 20:26 |
| CIA-44 | [kate] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607203818-duqizbm5y6ftc1o9 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu1 | 20:38 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm | 20:40 |
| JontheEchidna | yofel: should soprano have been uploaded at this point? | 20:40 |
| * JontheEchidna fears that he dun goofed >.> | 20:41 | |
| yofel | well, probably for kdepimlibs | 20:42 |
| yofel | considering we're almost at 4.8.85, I would just upload soprano now and fix things later | 20:42 |
| yofel | iirc there's only one thing that depends on newest soprano anyway | 20:43 |
| JontheEchidna | nepomuk-core? | 20:43 |
| yofel | yeah | 20:47 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, I can't seem to download soprano from ninjas via the web interface | 20:51 |
| JontheEchidna | yofel: would you mind uploading it to quantal? | 20:51 |
| yofel | can't, needs universe upload rights | 20:51 |
| yofel | ah wait | 20:51 |
| yofel | soprano? | 20:51 |
| JontheEchidna | yea | 20:51 |
| yofel | can do | 20:51 |
| JontheEchidna | thanks | 20:51 |
| JontheEchidna | https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+files/soprano_2.7.56%2Bdfsg.1-0ubuntu1~ppa2.dsc is what I tried, but it does some sort of 404 | 20:52 |
| yofel | you can't dget from ninjas | 20:52 |
| * yofel uses apt-get source | 20:52 | |
| JontheEchidna | I'm just trying to click the link on the ppa website :P | 20:53 |
| yofel | oh, dunno ^^ | 20:53 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: via chrome? | 20:53 |
| JontheEchidna | thought that's a good point, I should set up a deb-src entry to avoid this in the future | 20:53 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: yeah | 20:53 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: bug in chrome iirc | 20:53 |
| shadeslayer | a really old one | 20:53 |
| JontheEchidna | :/ | 20:53 |
| shadeslayer | use rekonq | 20:53 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 20:53 |
| debfx | or use the new pull-ninjas-source from kubuntu-dev-tools | 20:54 |
| CIA-44 | [libkdcraw] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607211336-kzu2f1vzifr5941l * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu1 | 21:13 |
| shadeslayer | Anyone planning to ARM builds? | 21:14 |
| * shadeslayer has to check if digikam 2.6.0 compiles | 21:14 | |
| CIA-44 | [libkexiv2] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607211745-rx5sz18vy2wkl2r5 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu1 | 21:17 |
| CIA-44 | [libksane] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607212020-dwqnmgf2993kqc87 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu1 | 21:20 |
| CIA-44 | [libkdeedu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607212323-g7axr8su7tksbupl * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu1 | 21:23 |
| * yofel wonders why dpkg doesn't depend on quilt if you're using 3.0 (quilt) ... | 21:23 | |
| micahg | yofel: internal implementation AIUI | 21:23 |
| CIA-44 | [libkcompactdisc] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607212554-qicc368s2w69keex * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu1 | 21:26 |
| yofel | ah... | 21:26 |
| yofel | seems to be so indeed, that explains some things | 21:27 |
| CIA-44 | [libkcddb] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607212824-6i0alxq0u29gkzk1 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu1 | 21:28 |
| CIA-44 | [libkipi] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607213020-xfm8ewbxcttzsi1b * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu1 | 21:30 |
| CIA-44 | [kde-baseapps] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607213557-88fe4gj4kb0jub8v * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu1 | 21:36 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: how come there's no pkg-kde-tools installed on the arm boxes? | 21:39 |
| CIA-44 | [nepomuk-core] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607213947-8nxzzorts8n8k0jn * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu1 | 21:39 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: IIRC, there is. Perhaps it's just not new enough. | 21:40 |
| shadeslayer | dh: unable to load addon kde: Can't locate Debian/Debhelper/Sequence/kde.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 8) line 2. | 21:41 |
| ScottK | pkg-kde-tools_0.9.3ubuntu4_all.deb is installed. | 21:41 |
| shadeslayer | whoa, that's *old* | 21:42 |
| yofel | debfx: are you going to upload pkg-kde-tools? | 21:43 |
| ScottK | Current pkg-kde-tools needs a newer dpkg than is available there. | 21:43 |
| shadeslayer | :S | 21:44 |
| * ScottK has to go soon, so feel free to update it. | 21:44 | |
| CIA-44 | [okular] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607214426-qalp3e40tll8fdxa * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu1 | 21:44 |
| shadeslayer | Can't even emulate armel using qemu on my VPS because it'll cry about running out of memory | 21:45 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: just needs a newer dpkg? | 21:45 |
| ScottK | Yes, but I don't want to backport dpkg. | 21:46 |
| ScottK | Maybe you can make it work well enough without libdpkg-perl | 21:46 |
| BluesKaj | got a ppa for 4.8.4 ? | 21:46 |
| shadeslayer | I'm too scared to backport dpkg because if I mess it up it'll render the system unusable | 21:46 |
| shadeslayer | *it might render the | 21:47 |
| BluesKaj | ninja? | 21:47 |
| yofel | it is in ninjas for precise | 21:47 |
| shadeslayer | btw is there a script that uploads all the new tars? | 21:48 |
| shadeslayer | or do you do it by hand? | 21:48 |
| yofel | you mean archive uploads? | 21:48 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 21:49 |
| yofel | I work half-automated from bzr using this: http://paste.kde.org/495104/ | 21:49 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, ok , so I'll stay out of it on quantal ... I have precise on the other drive , so I'll switch over | 21:50 |
| yofel | quantal is just getting 4.8.80 | 21:50 |
| BluesKaj | yes , I have it | 21:50 |
| JontheEchidna | most of the first-level blue nodes are up now | 21:51 |
| JontheEchidna | I won't be able to do workspace due to my crappy connection | 21:52 |
| yofel | I'll do oxygen-icons, that'll keep me busy for a bit | 21:52 |
| shadeslayer | -> sleep, digikam still building, will test and upload tomorrow | 21:53 |
| CIA-44 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/oxygen-icons] Philip Muškovac * 101 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu1 | 22:00 |
| Daskreech | yofel: Back ;) thanks. I'm showing KDE off at a Conference this weekend (Konference?) and decided to use Kubuntu. Others are doing Debian and Fedora. Hopefully I can get KDE 4.9 installed by say mid day tomorrow so I can play with it and know what not to show off as it crashes. I think Debian can handle the KDE 4.8 series fine | 22:03 |
| Riddell | Daskreech: dunno how soon backports will be done | 22:15 |
| Riddell | I'd like to do them first thing tomorrow but they always take longer than expected | 22:15 |
| Daskreech | Of course they do :) | 22:17 |
| Daskreech | Riddell: I may consider the hairy choice of jumping to +1 to get 4.8.80 | 22:18 |
| Riddell | I'm having no problems with the alpha of +1 | 22:19 |
| Riddell | and you can install it from ninjas if necessary | 22:19 |
| Riddell | debfx: 4.8.4 is out | 22:21 |
| genii-around | Daskreech: | 22:24 |
| Daskreech | hi genii-around | 22:25 |
| * genii-around makes more coffee | 22:25 | |
| Daskreech | Coffee is good | 22:47 |
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