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zniavre | #931630 | 10:45 |
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eagles0513875 | zniavre: bug 931630 | 10:55 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 931630 in shotwell (Ubuntu) "don't set GtkDrawingArea to have transparent background" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/931630 | 10:55 |
ikonia | eagles0513875: did you progress your issue ok ? | 11:11 |
eagles0513875 | ikonia: seems like i kinda made a mess of things reinstalling the netbook package and then switching to the netbook layout | 11:12 |
eagles0513875 | i have the normal desktop menu bar on the bottom with the k menu and all as well as the netbook menubar which crashes on login | 11:12 |
ikonia | eagles0513875: ok, so despite that it seems like you have made progress to narrow it down | 11:12 |
eagles0513875 | correct that the issue is the the netbook transition package i haven't tried anything else today sadly | 11:13 |
ikonia | I don't think the issue is the transistion package | 11:13 |
ikonia | that's not going to cause an applet to crash | 11:13 |
ikonia | (applet - bad wording) | 11:13 |
ikonia | the netbook package is just a meta package, that won't cause applications to crash | 11:14 |
eagles0513875 | ok thing is on instant crash there is no back trace or anything | 11:17 |
ikonia | you don't have to get a back trace | 11:22 |
ikonia | eagles0513875: lets get a plan together here, | 11:22 |
eagles0513875 | ok | 11:22 |
ikonia | eagles0513875: 1.) do you know if anyone else has confirmed the issue with the netbook layout | 11:22 |
eagles0513875 | sadly not i can't find anyone else with a netbook :( | 11:23 |
ikonia | ok, that would be really helpful, to get another netbook user to confirm the issue and anything similar/different | 11:23 |
ikonia | have you hit a few people up on the mailing list/irc | 11:23 |
ikonia | does the issue occur if you use a laptop/desktop and install the netbook layout ? | 11:24 |
eagles0513875 | actually forgot about the mailing list | 11:25 |
ikonia | not a crime | 11:25 |
ikonia | what about the other stuff, does it work on a laptop if you use the netbook layout ? | 11:25 |
eagles0513875 | but I'm having issues with that no mode set which i have to figure out how I'm going to tackle but thats not related to the current discussion | 11:26 |
ikonia | I told you how to fix the nomodeset issue | 11:26 |
ikonia | you must have another machine to try a kubuntu netbook layout install on ? | 11:26 |
ikonia | hell, would you like me to try it on a vm I have running on my laptop now ? | 11:27 |
eagles0513875 | ikonia: the problem with vms at least from what i have seen bugs that surface on physical hardware don't surface at all on virtual machines and vice versa | 11:28 |
eagles0513875 | but ill go ahead and setup a vm :) | 11:28 |
ikonia | eagles0513875: do you think this is a hardware problem ? as 2 minutes ago you thought it was a problem with a meta package? | 11:28 |
eagles0513875 | i don't think so | 11:29 |
ikonia | hand on heart, where do you think the issue lies from what you have seen far | 11:29 |
eagles0513875 | this netbook is fairly new and in great condition | 11:29 |
eagles0513875 | its a package just not sure what exactly the package is :( | 11:29 |
ikonia | hardware problem does mean "broken hardware" it could be an incompatability | 11:29 |
ikonia | ok - let me get a vm image running and you can walk me through it, | 11:30 |
ikonia | give me a few minutes | 11:30 |
ikonia | are you running 32 or 64bit ? | 11:30 |
eagles0513875 | ikonia: 11.10 worked fine on the netbook desktop | 11:30 |
eagles0513875 | 32bit | 11:30 |
ikonia | right and you're using 12.10 ? | 11:30 |
eagles0513875 | correct | 11:31 |
eagles0513875 | i noticed the menubar issue in 12.04 | 11:31 |
ikonia | ok, lets stick with what you're currently running | 11:31 |
eagles0513875 | ok | 11:32 |
ikonia | exactly which install image are you using so I grab the same one | 11:32 |
eagles0513875 | i did the net install | 11:33 |
ikonia | ughhh | 11:33 |
ikonia | despite me telling you multiple times not to | 11:33 |
ikonia | I'll just use the standard 12.10 current image | 11:33 |
ikonia | there is no 12.10 kubuntu-netbook image I can find, give me a minute or two | 11:35 |
ikonia | fine, I'll use the net installer | 11:36 |
ikonia | eagles0513875: which/where did you get the netinstaller image you are using | 11:36 |
eagles0513875 | oops meant the alternate cd | 11:37 |
eagles0513875 | which is technically the net install | 11:37 |
ikonia | the altnernave cd is NOT the net instrall | 11:37 |
ikonia | there is nothing "net install" abou it | 11:37 |
eagles0513875 | ok | 11:37 |
ikonia | please be %100 clear - what are you using | 11:37 |
eagles0513875 | i forgot that they took the net install down | 11:37 |
ikonia | so which cd image are you using, link me to it | 11:38 |
eagles0513875 | http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download | 11:39 |
eagles0513875 | then the 32bit alternate cd option | 11:39 |
ikonia | ok | 11:39 |
ikonia | eagles0513875: that is NOT 12.10 !!!!!P | 11:40 |
eagles0513875 | then i did a manual upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 by changing the sources list | 11:40 |
ikonia | I am getting REALLY annoyed with this now | 11:40 |
ikonia | eagles0513875: why did you upgrade to 12.10 ? | 11:40 |
eagles0513875 | was hoping to contribute this cycle to the project | 11:41 |
ikonia | contribute to the cycle ??? | 11:41 |
ikonia | sorry, I'm backing out of this you need to grow up | 11:41 |
eagles0513875 | ok. ill do further testing on a vm myself | 11:41 |
ikonia | I'll test the 12.04 issue with you | 11:41 |
ikonia | you're just making an invalid test case | 11:42 |
eagles0513875 | ? | 11:42 |
ikonia | is the issue on 12.04 currently ? | 11:42 |
eagles0513875 | initially my netbook was on 12.04 and it was there | 11:42 |
eagles0513875 | yes | 11:42 |
ikonia | right, so focus on that | 11:42 |
eagles0513875 | ok well i don't want to waste your time ill setup a vm after lunch and test it out on there | 11:42 |
ikonia | that is the active distro, that is LTS | 11:42 |
ikonia | if there is a fix it will get fed into the other releases, focus on what's real | 11:42 |
eagles0513875 | ok | 11:43 |
ikonia | eagles0513875: it's not so much my time I'm bothered about (although I don't enjoy having it wasted) it's others like the development time you're wasting | 11:43 |
ikonia | eagles0513875: you need to get solid and valid test results | 11:43 |
ikonia | eagles0513875: the more you just amble on giving random bits of info the more invalid/lucid it becomes | 11:43 |
eagles0513875 | ok | 11:43 |
ikonia | work with me here on the 12.04 issue, we can move to 12.10 if needed to confirm the issue | 11:43 |
ikonia | can you get a clean 12.04 image on your netbook, is that possible ? | 11:44 |
eagles0513875 | i can reinstall just have to backup a few things | 11:44 |
ikonia | is that possible now (while I'm downloading the CD ?) | 11:44 |
eagles0513875 | i need to download the cd and was going to leave that downloading while i go have lunch | 11:45 |
ikonia | ok, I'm downloading the CD now | 11:45 |
ikonia | can you please ping me when you return so you can walk me through the issue please. | 11:45 |
eagles0513875 | sure thing | 11:46 |
ikonia | thank you | 11:46 |
edgy | Hi, I have precise dual boot with windows and now wants to install quantal alongside. I will create an lv_root, lv_home and then boot from the liveCD and choose the / and /home to point to the previouse volumes, is that OK? | 12:14 |
tbf | is there a reason for making libboost-1.46-dev and libboost-1.48-dev conflict with each other? how about making them parallel installable? | 12:37 |
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BluesKaj | hey all | 13:07 |
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eagles0513875 | ikonia: ping | 13:47 |
eagles0513875 | ikonia: about to make my bootable usb | 13:47 |
ikonia | eagles0513875: ahhh great, I'm installing at the moment | 13:55 |
eagles0513875 | turns out the download didn't complete, only partially :( redownloading the iso now. :( | 13:56 |
eagles0513875 | ikonia: do you mind if i ask you what might sound like a stupid question | 13:58 |
ikonia | always | 14:02 |
ikonia | (as in never a problem) | 14:02 |
eagles0513875 | whats the point of having a netbook desktop when the standard kde layout work just fine and i feel at times out performs the netbook one | 14:04 |
ikonia | it works fine for you | 14:05 |
ikonia | others like different things | 14:05 |
ikonia | your view/experience does not represent everyones elses, others may find it performs worse, or like a different layout better | 14:05 |
ikonia | personally I don't like netbook layouts, but then again, that's just me | 14:05 |
eagles0513875 | ikonia: i actually agree with you | 14:06 |
eagles0513875 | one thing i have noticed which is odd as of 12.04 in system settings there is no way to disable the track pad | 14:07 |
eagles0513875 | on ones laptop/netbook | 14:07 |
ikonia | I'm not really a kde user, so I don't know about things like that | 14:08 |
eagles0513875 | not a problem | 14:08 |
eagles0513875 | another question. i had tried unity | 14:08 |
eagles0513875 | nm scratch that question | 14:08 |
ikonia | ok | 14:08 |
eagles0513875 | 5 min to go for the redownload of the iso to complete | 14:11 |
ikonia | I'm still installing as I was tight with the ammount of ram and cpu I have the machine | 14:12 |
eagles0513875 | all my netbook is is a hyper threaded atom with 2gb of ram | 14:14 |
ikonia | eagles0513875: lets move this to #kubuntu as we are not discussing 12.10 at this time | 14:15 |
eagles0513875 | ikonia: read my mind :D | 14:15 |
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iceroot | hi | 16:22 |
iceroot | is it a bug or a feature that the auto-mounter is using /run/media/username instead of /media/ for removable devices? | 16:22 |
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DrHalan | hey guys. i was wondering if there is already a version of UbuntuTV to try out | 20:00 |
edgy | Hi, I tried to import a file to muon that contaim package names and now I got "'The package system could not be initialized, your configuration may be broken.". I guess the file is not in the proper format but how can I get muon back? I closed and restart but getting the same error. | 21:12 |
alex_mayorga | How broken is Quetzal? | 23:05 |
FernandoMiguel | not much | 23:07 |
FernandoMiguel | one of my machines is having probs with cups | 23:08 |
FernandoMiguel | other then that, it's fine | 23:08 |
FernandoMiguel | sound is very low..... | 23:08 |
alex_mayorga | FernandoMiguel: Is it alpha 1 yet? | 23:21 |
alex_mayorga | I usually jump in right after the 1st alpha | 23:21 |
FernandoMiguel | long ago | 23:22 |
alex_mayorga | Not that long ago according to http://www.ubuntu.com/testing | 23:37 |
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