=== linuxuz3r_ is now known as linuxuz3r === yofel_ is now known as yofel [10:45] #931630 [10:55] zniavre: bug 931630 [10:55] Launchpad bug 931630 in shotwell (Ubuntu) "don't set GtkDrawingArea to have transparent background" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/931630 [11:11] eagles0513875: did you progress your issue ok ? [11:12] ikonia: seems like i kinda made a mess of things reinstalling the netbook package and then switching to the netbook layout [11:12] i have the normal desktop menu bar on the bottom with the k menu and all as well as the netbook menubar which crashes on login [11:12] eagles0513875: ok, so despite that it seems like you have made progress to narrow it down [11:13] correct that the issue is the the netbook transition package i haven't tried anything else today sadly [11:13] I don't think the issue is the transistion package [11:13] that's not going to cause an applet to crash [11:13] (applet - bad wording) [11:14] the netbook package is just a meta package, that won't cause applications to crash [11:17] ok thing is on instant crash there is no back trace or anything [11:22] you don't have to get a back trace [11:22] eagles0513875: lets get a plan together here, [11:22] ok [11:22] eagles0513875: 1.) do you know if anyone else has confirmed the issue with the netbook layout [11:23] sadly not i can't find anyone else with a netbook :( [11:23] ok, that would be really helpful, to get another netbook user to confirm the issue and anything similar/different [11:23] have you hit a few people up on the mailing list/irc [11:24] does the issue occur if you use a laptop/desktop and install the netbook layout ? [11:25] actually forgot about the mailing list [11:25] not a crime [11:25] what about the other stuff, does it work on a laptop if you use the netbook layout ? [11:26] but I'm having issues with that no mode set which i have to figure out how I'm going to tackle but thats not related to the current discussion [11:26] I told you how to fix the nomodeset issue [11:26] you must have another machine to try a kubuntu netbook layout install on ? [11:27] hell, would you like me to try it on a vm I have running on my laptop now ? [11:28] ikonia: the problem with vms at least from what i have seen bugs that surface on physical hardware don't surface at all on virtual machines and vice versa [11:28] but ill go ahead and setup a vm :) [11:28] eagles0513875: do you think this is a hardware problem ? as 2 minutes ago you thought it was a problem with a meta package? [11:29] i don't think so [11:29] hand on heart, where do you think the issue lies from what you have seen far [11:29] this netbook is fairly new and in great condition [11:29] its a package just not sure what exactly the package is :( [11:29] hardware problem does mean "broken hardware" it could be an incompatability [11:30] ok - let me get a vm image running and you can walk me through it, [11:30] give me a few minutes [11:30] are you running 32 or 64bit ? [11:30] ikonia: 11.10 worked fine on the netbook desktop [11:30] 32bit [11:30] right and you're using 12.10 ? [11:31] correct [11:31] i noticed the menubar issue in 12.04 [11:31] ok, lets stick with what you're currently running [11:32] ok [11:32] exactly which install image are you using so I grab the same one [11:33] i did the net install [11:33] ughhh [11:33] despite me telling you multiple times not to [11:33] I'll just use the standard 12.10 current image [11:35] there is no 12.10 kubuntu-netbook image I can find, give me a minute or two [11:36] fine, I'll use the net installer [11:36] eagles0513875: which/where did you get the netinstaller image you are using [11:37] oops meant the alternate cd [11:37] which is technically the net install [11:37] the altnernave cd is NOT the net instrall [11:37] there is nothing "net install" abou it [11:37] ok [11:37] please be %100 clear - what are you using [11:37] i forgot that they took the net install down [11:38] so which cd image are you using, link me to it [11:39] http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download [11:39] then the 32bit alternate cd option [11:39] ok [11:40] eagles0513875: that is NOT 12.10 !!!!!P [11:40] then i did a manual upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 by changing the sources list [11:40] I am getting REALLY annoyed with this now [11:40] eagles0513875: why did you upgrade to 12.10 ? [11:41] was hoping to contribute this cycle to the project [11:41] contribute to the cycle ??? [11:41] sorry, I'm backing out of this you need to grow up [11:41] ok. ill do further testing on a vm myself [11:41] I'll test the 12.04 issue with you [11:42] you're just making an invalid test case [11:42] ? [11:42] is the issue on 12.04 currently ? [11:42] initially my netbook was on 12.04 and it was there [11:42] yes [11:42] right, so focus on that [11:42] ok well i don't want to waste your time ill setup a vm after lunch and test it out on there [11:42] that is the active distro, that is LTS [11:42] if there is a fix it will get fed into the other releases, focus on what's real [11:43] ok [11:43] eagles0513875: it's not so much my time I'm bothered about (although I don't enjoy having it wasted) it's others like the development time you're wasting [11:43] eagles0513875: you need to get solid and valid test results [11:43] eagles0513875: the more you just amble on giving random bits of info the more invalid/lucid it becomes [11:43] ok [11:43] work with me here on the 12.04 issue, we can move to 12.10 if needed to confirm the issue [11:44] can you get a clean 12.04 image on your netbook, is that possible ? [11:44] i can reinstall just have to backup a few things [11:44] is that possible now (while I'm downloading the CD ?) [11:45] i need to download the cd and was going to leave that downloading while i go have lunch [11:45] ok, I'm downloading the CD now [11:45] can you please ping me when you return so you can walk me through the issue please. [11:46] sure thing [11:46] thank you [12:14] Hi, I have precise dual boot with windows and now wants to install quantal alongside. I will create an lv_root, lv_home and then boot from the liveCD and choose the / and /home to point to the previouse volumes, is that OK? [12:37] is there a reason for making libboost-1.46-dev and libboost-1.48-dev conflict with each other? how about making them parallel installable? === samsul_ is now known as samsul [13:07] hey all === jbicha is now known as Guest48486 [13:47] ikonia: ping [13:47] ikonia: about to make my bootable usb [13:55] eagles0513875: ahhh great, I'm installing at the moment [13:56] turns out the download didn't complete, only partially :( redownloading the iso now. :( [13:58] ikonia: do you mind if i ask you what might sound like a stupid question [14:02] always [14:02] (as in never a problem) [14:04] whats the point of having a netbook desktop when the standard kde layout work just fine and i feel at times out performs the netbook one [14:05] it works fine for you [14:05] others like different things [14:05] your view/experience does not represent everyones elses, others may find it performs worse, or like a different layout better [14:05] personally I don't like netbook layouts, but then again, that's just me [14:06] ikonia: i actually agree with you [14:07] one thing i have noticed which is odd as of 12.04 in system settings there is no way to disable the track pad [14:07] on ones laptop/netbook [14:08] I'm not really a kde user, so I don't know about things like that [14:08] not a problem [14:08] another question. i had tried unity [14:08] nm scratch that question [14:08] ok [14:11] 5 min to go for the redownload of the iso to complete [14:12] I'm still installing as I was tight with the ammount of ram and cpu I have the machine [14:14] all my netbook is is a hyper threaded atom with 2gb of ram [14:15] eagles0513875: lets move this to #kubuntu as we are not discussing 12.10 at this time [14:15] ikonia: read my mind :D === samsul is now known as kacung\ [16:22] hi [16:22] is it a bug or a feature that the auto-mounter is using /run/media/username instead of /media/ for removable devices? === skynet-2000 is now known as skynet === skynet is now known as Guest491 === Guest491 is now known as skynet-2000 [20:00] hey guys. i was wondering if there is already a version of UbuntuTV to try out [21:12] Hi, I tried to import a file to muon that contaim package names and now I got "'The package system could not be initialized, your configuration may be broken.". I guess the file is not in the proper format but how can I get muon back? I closed and restart but getting the same error. [23:05] How broken is Quetzal? [23:07] not much [23:08] one of my machines is having probs with cups [23:08] other then that, it's fine [23:08] sound is very low..... [23:21] FernandoMiguel: Is it alpha 1 yet? [23:21] I usually jump in right after the 1st alpha [23:22] long ago [23:37] Not that long ago according to http://www.ubuntu.com/testing