[07:04] <dholbach> good morning
[19:12] <pleia2> doing alpha1 fridge post
[19:12] <silverlion> evening pleia2
[21:12]  * silverlion knocks on the table
[21:12] <pleia2> anything we can help you with, silverlion?
[21:13] <silverlion> pleia2: that is just a german way to say hi
[21:13] <silverlion> am sorry if interupted something
[21:13] <pleia2> not interrupting, just wanted to make sure you didn't need anything :)
[21:14] <silverlion> pleia2: i could need some assisting in creating ebooks, but that is all ^^ and guess nothing you could help me with, right?
[21:14] <pleia2> nope, sorry
[21:17] <silverlion> thought so ^^ but if you like, you could read an article of mine about the work i do ^^ in the current Full Circle Magazine ;)
[21:19] <pleia2> I've been writing for FCM for a few years (still do), so I read them
[21:19] <pleia2> currently contributing the Xfce section of the Closing Windows series
[21:20] <pleia2> and do Ubuntu Women columns when we have material for them
[21:20] <silverlion> pleia2: i know ;)
[21:20] <silverlion> i am converting them into the ebooks ;)
[21:20] <pleia2> I know
[21:26] <bkerensa> silverlion: you know pleia2 is famous she is in the next issue of Ubuntu User!
[21:26] <bkerensa> :P
[21:26] <silverlion> bkerensa: well everyone what he / she deserves
[21:27]  * silverlion is happy to be a "small" light in the big community ... if you understand
[21:28] <bkerensa> :D
[21:29] <pleia2> bkerensa is famous, he wrote the feature article in the next issue of Ubuntu User!
[21:29] <silverlion> and what if i dont want to be famous?
[21:29] <pleia2> we're just joking around :)
[21:30] <silverlion> pleia2: got that ;)
[21:30] <silverlion> pleia2: there are people who want to make me famous
[21:31] <silverlion> by telling the work I do for FCM is kinda art
[21:31] <pleia2> I always wanted to be rich anyway, not famous
[21:31]  * pleia2 suddenly realizing that doing work with open source software was a lousy way to go about this ;)
[21:32] <silverlion> pleia2: i ONLY use open source ... the only thing i payed for is the bad OS with the W in Front
[21:32] <silverlion> which i am using now because i am sitting in my corner
[21:32] <silverlion> not at my desk
[21:32] <bkerensa> pleia2: I prefer rich over fame but only if its rich enough to have an accountant full time to deal with taxes and pay people :P
[21:33] <pleia2> bkerensa: haha
[21:33] <bkerensa> doing the UU article likely made my taxes a bit more complicated this year
[21:33] <bkerensa> =/
[21:33] <pleia2> bkerensa: yeah, I hear that
[21:33] <bkerensa> Well it depends... If they file a 1099-MISC which they are not required to unless its $600 then it could be more complicated
[21:33] <silverlion> bkerensa: why is that (if i may ask as an European with absolutely no idea of american taxes)
[21:34] <bkerensa> if not then it will be fine
[21:34] <bkerensa> silverlion: our tax system is overly complicated
[21:34] <bkerensa> :D
[21:34] <pleia2> I moonlit as a technical reviewer one year, made about $1200, caused tax headaches (it was so much easier with just a W2!)
[21:34] <pleia2> but now my fiance's taxes are so complicated we just send everything for both of us off to an accountant and let him worry about it
[21:35] <pleia2> (he has a lot of investments and things via Google)
[21:35] <bkerensa> pleia2: yeah so when I get gadgets some companies do their duty and report to the IRS which is not fun because I get hit with paying tax on free tech gadgets
[21:35] <bkerensa> but some dont
[21:35] <pleia2> yeah
[21:35] <bkerensa> it really depends on the value of the item...
[21:35]  * silverlion would love to come to the States (or even to an UDS) but financials does not approve that :(
[21:35] <bkerensa> Dell gave me a laptop and never reported it or had me fill out paperwork
[21:35] <bkerensa> :P
[21:35] <pleia2> woo $2000 free laptop..er, $200 $2000 laptop
[21:35] <bkerensa> funny they hit the UDS dell laptop winners :D
[21:36] <pleia2> not surprising though
[21:36] <bkerensa> well yeah those ultrabooks are spendy I think
[21:36] <pleia2> yeah
[21:36] <bkerensa> the Dell 14z I got was new and only priced at $689 I think
[21:37] <pleia2> do you pay taxes in the state it was won?
[21:37] <pleia2> /given/whatever
[21:37] <pleia2> because california sales tax, ouch :)
[21:37] <bkerensa> My understanding is no
[21:37] <bkerensa> not unless I exceed $13000 in gifts
[21:37] <pleia2> ah
[21:38] <bkerensa> then I pay 3% to 25% depending on how far over 13k