r3d64r | good evening! | 05:53 |
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philipballew_ | r3d64r, good evening!!! | 06:02 |
r3d64r | I have a question for you | 06:09 |
r3d64r | do you have any familiarity wtih MAAS? | 06:10 |
pleia2 | I did some user testing before release, but haven't touched it since | 06:11 |
r3d64r | I am trying figure out if MAAS would be able to scale up to support 250k users | 06:13 |
pleia2 | 250k administrators? | 06:15 |
r3d64r | no, we need a solution that can support 250k+ users | 06:16 |
pleia2 | MAAS itself really just manages the allocation and management of the physical resources, presumably of which you'd have a handful of actual sysadmins managing | 06:16 |
pleia2 | what you do once the servers are deployed user-wise is a bit beyond that | 06:17 |
pleia2 | what are the users actually "using" in your question? | 06:17 |
r3d64r | we would need an authentication for user accounts | 06:18 |
r3d64r | and the rest is going to be used for secure file transfers | 06:18 |
pleia2 | so you're deploying servers using openldap and fileservers? | 06:19 |
pleia2 | s/using/running | 06:19 |
pleia2 | what you put on the servers isn't really part of MAAS, the user accounts in MAAS are for administrators who are doing the server deployments | 06:19 |
r3d64r | we have it setup in 10.04 at the moment, be our concern is how to scale it | 06:20 |
r3d64r | mostly php, apache and mysql | 06:20 |
r3d64r | for the most part I need those things to be able to scale up as needed | 06:21 |
philipballew_ | juju can do that cant it? | 06:22 |
r3d64r | I am hoping that is the case, but I have yet to find someone that can confirm that | 06:23 |
pleia2 | yeah, once you have the physical server provisioned you can use juju to actually deploy the custom services | 06:23 |
pleia2 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS is very helpful :) | 06:23 |
pleia2 | it's a whole walkthrough goes on to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS/AddNodes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS/Juju | 06:24 |
r3d64r | I have tried their tutorials, but still running some test on vm's and actually seeing it live are two different things | 06:25 |
philipballew_ | #juju can help as well usually as well as askubuntu.com for juju questions often as well | 06:25 |
pleia2 | this walkthrough confirms that you can use juju with maas | 06:26 |
pleia2 | both are quite new technologies though, I don't know if anyone is using them in a big enterprise environment yet | 06:26 |
r3d64r | yeah I still do not completely understand juju, but it looks awesome - reminds me of how mainframes process jobs | 06:28 |
pleia2 | at the core they're really just scripts that do "apt-get install && some configuration stuff" and manage relationships between services (wordpress needs mysql, for instance) | 06:28 |
philipballew_ | you can look at the charms themselves | 06:29 |
* philipballew_ grabs link | 06:29 | |
philipballew_ | http://jujucharms.com/ | 06:29 |
r3d64r | question - so if for example I have a node and install mysql, can I then install mysql on another node and have them work as a distributed set? | 06:30 |
pleia2 | yeah, you can establish a relationship between the two | 06:31 |
r3d64r | see that is what I need to test to verify that these is in fact true | 06:32 |
philipballew_ | make sure to use 12.04 and not 10.04 for juju | 06:33 |
r3d64r | because this would solve most of our scalability problems | 06:33 |
philipballew_ | well its what they recommend | 06:33 |
philipballew_ | iirc | 06:33 |
pleia2 | I'd toss up a test environment and see how the relationships work | 06:33 |
pleia2 | and if they fit your needs | 06:33 |
pleia2 | and I should go to bed :) | 06:34 |
r3d64r | hahaha! | 06:34 |
r3d64r | sleep is over rated! u needs more coffee! | 06:34 |
pleia2 | lol | 06:34 |
pleia2 | nooo, I have to work in the morning | 06:34 |
r3d64r | so do I! | 06:34 |
r3d64r | goodnight! and btw thansk allot for the information | 06:35 |
pleia2 | sure, good luck :) | 06:37 |
philipballew_ | Have a good time! | 06:38 |
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