[00:20] <SamuraiAlba> Peep this...
[00:20] <SamuraiAlba> http://www1.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/tresor
[00:20] <SamuraiAlba> good bacon!
[04:36] <InHisName> on machine A I type: nslookup homedomain.co.cc ns3.afraid.org and get a good IP response.
[04:37] <InHisName> On machine B the SAME command gives a different IP response.   What/where do I look to find cause of problem?
[04:48] <InHisName> all 25 of you, including pleia2 are asleep already ?
[08:49] <JonathanD> Morning
[09:30] <rmg51> Morning
[09:37] <JonathanD> hey
[10:08] <SamuraiAlba> Mornin!
[11:00] <JonathanD> hey SamuraiAlba
[11:11] <InHisName> Morning
[11:12] <InHisName> on machine "A" I type: nslookup homedomain.co.cc     ns3.afraid.org and get a good IP response.
[11:12] <InHisName> On machine "B" the SAME command gives a different IP response.   What/where do I look to find cause of problem?
[11:13] <LordOfTime> InHisName:  figure out which DNS servers are being used on each machine
[11:13] <LordOfTime> make sure the machines are using the same lookup server
[11:13] <InHisName> How to figure that out?
[11:13] <LordOfTime> i dont use nslookup, I use dnsget, but i have the raw output spit out
[11:13]  * waltman *YAWNS*
[11:14] <LordOfTime> in there is the IP of the lookup server
[11:14] <InHisName> I thought that putting ns1.afraid.org was putting that dns to search.
[11:16] <LordOfTime> i dont use nslookup so...
[11:17] <LordOfTime> InHisName:  is it homedomain.co.cc you're looking up?
[11:17] <InHisName> Yes
[11:17] <LordOfTime> one moment
[11:18] <LordOfTime> InHisName:  https://pastebin.com/Dc53rEb4
[11:18] <LordOfTime> bleh
[11:18] <LordOfTime> http://pastebin.com/Dc53rEb4
[11:18] <LordOfTime> without https
[11:19] <LordOfTime> everything there look correct?
[11:20] <InHisName> That is what Machine "A" shows - that's the good answer.
[11:20] <LordOfTime> this is google's dns: http://pastebin.com/Eyrkguq7
[11:20] <LordOfTime> same lookup, but through google's dbs
[11:21] <InHisName> I've just installed dnsget here and will try it with same command for comparison
[11:21] <LordOfTime> (looks like it hasnt propagated globally)
[11:21] <LordOfTime> and this is Level3 DNS: http://pastebin.com/8xb3x8ma
[11:22] <LordOfTime> still looks like it  hasnt propagated
[11:23] <InHisName> the afraid.org  zone has 'error' complaining "found domain delegation errors"
[11:23] <InHisName> Might be why not propagated.
[11:23] <LordOfTime> probably
[11:23] <LordOfTime> probably means the main nameserver changes for the domain havent propagated
[11:23] <LordOfTime> *that* will probably take time
[11:24] <LordOfTime> up to a day
[11:24] <InHisName> But I need to understand that error, and their help for it hasn't been enough.
[11:25] <InHisName> I am not delegating any subdomains of that.   Not sure what other delegations I am in charge of, yet.
[11:27] <LordOfTime> well "delegation" can sometimeis be the nameserver changes
[11:27] <LordOfTime> this happens whenever i reg a new domain and send it to the new third-party DNS, I get DNS delegation errors until DNS globally propagates
[11:28] <LordOfTime> the difference may be one system is caching DNS info
[11:29] <LordOfTime> can't be fully certain why, though, you may want to contact them to see why its returning that
[11:29] <LordOfTime> but having the third=party (myself) show you what i'm seeing in the DNS lookup helps to affirm that Machine A is right and Machine B is screwy
[11:30] <InHisName> here is display of results of test & error, not sure if error visible here though.   http://pastebin.com/BqFLZXbx
[11:32] <LordOfTime> Found domain delegation errors  [ Check Delegations ]  <-- DNS delegation error, similar to ones i get when the nameserver changes havent propagated to the universe
[11:32] <LordOfTime> OR
[11:32] <LordOfTime> the dns lookup server(s) are broken
[11:32] <InHisName> I think it 'broke' because a power cycle rebooted the server from Win2008 into ubuntu server for a few months.  So no web site.
[11:32] <LordOfTime> that may be the case
[11:32] <LordOfTime> it may be caching
[11:36] <InHisName> So, should I just delete homedomain.co.cc from afraid.org and start over ?   Do I need to wait 24 hrs to make a new one?   Should I remove the hooks from homedomain.co.cc that refer to nsX.afraid.org ?  In which order if so.
[11:36] <LordOfTime> i'd wait 12 hours and do the lookup(s) again
[11:36] <LordOfTime> if that still doesn't work, redo the dns zone i'd say
[11:37] <LordOfTime> and if the dns nameservers change then edit the ones from homedomain.co.cc that refer to the afraid.org nameservers
[11:37] <InHisName> I've been working all day on this yesterday, its been 12+ hours since last change, if I made a change.
[11:37] <LordOfTime> hmm
[11:37] <LordOfTime> DAMN i'm going to be late
[11:38] <LordOfTime> *runs out the door*
[11:38] <InHisName> bye
[12:21] <SamuraiAlba> morning rmg51
[12:58] <rmg51> morning SamuraiAlba
[12:58] <SamuraiAlba> how is it going?
[13:10] <rmg51> I'm at work of that tells you anything
[13:12] <SamuraiAlba> lol
[13:12] <SamuraiAlba> I need to find a way to Philly soon
[13:13] <SamuraiAlba> got this computer here, ya see?
[13:13]  * SamuraiAlba points to 45lb monster
[15:56] <jedijf> Pennsylvania Arch users | RTFM | Arch Corner at FOSSCON needs volunteers (contact passstab)
[16:29] <LordOfTime> InHisName:  any progress?
[17:42] <InHisName> LordOfTime: yes, somewhat.   I deleted the NS records from afraid.org.  A few hours later the records disappeared from the NS servers.   Now I've created a "new" domain and need to wait 24+ hours for overnight checking.  Done for all "new" added domains.  THEN it begins the propagation.  At least that is what I hope happens.
[17:51] <MutantTurkey> afraid.org rocks
[17:51] <MutantTurkey> used it for quite some time
[17:56] <InHisName> Yea, it was nice until I lost power in Jan and server lost running Win2008 and rebooted automatically in ubuntu server.  I didn't realize that the web server went offline until early yesterday.  afraid marked their NS tags as broken since Jan.
[18:46] <SamuraiAlba> good bacon to all!
[18:46] <JonathanD> Howdy SamuraiAlba
[18:46] <SamuraiAlba> How is it going?
[18:47] <JonathanD> it is going well
[18:47] <SamuraiAlba> cool beans
[18:47] <SamuraiAlba> I stubbed my tow on the server LOL
[18:47] <JonathanD> lovely :D
[18:47] <JonathanD> I should see if hive has come to a conclusion about it.
[18:47] <SamuraiAlba> *toe
[18:47] <SamuraiAlba> go check :)
[18:48] <SamuraiAlba> I can drop the VM software on it if u like
[18:48] <JonathanD> there has been an ongoing debate about noisy server vs not-noisy server
[18:48] <SamuraiAlba> It isn't noisy
[18:48] <JonathanD> I got myself a new server, personally, today.
[18:48] <SamuraiAlba> oooh?
[18:48] <SamuraiAlba> what?
[18:48] <JonathanD> the one they have is noisy, thats why they don't use it.
[18:48] <JonathanD> DL360
[18:48] <SamuraiAlba> NOISY
[18:48] <SamuraiAlba> I had one
[18:48] <JonathanD> yes
[18:48] <JonathanD> but I have a basement
[18:49] <JonathanD> you have seen my basement, no?
[18:49] <SamuraiAlba> no :(
[18:49] <JonathanD> I actually recieved a network today, more accurately.
[18:49] <SamuraiAlba> Dungeon?  *bats eyelashes*
[18:49] <SamuraiAlba> lol jk
[18:49] <JonathanD> http://jdsnetwork.com/images/100_2770.JPG
[18:49] <JonathanD> basement
[18:49] <JonathanD> The next room over is the holodeck. This is the hardware it runs on.
[18:49] <SamuraiAlba> lol
[18:49] <SamuraiAlba> y so much?
[18:50] <JonathanD> I like the sound of server fans.
[18:50] <JonathanD> I find it relaxing.
[18:50] <SamuraiAlba> lol
[18:50] <JonathanD> They're all ESXi'd up.
[18:50] <SamuraiAlba> where u gets?
[18:50] <JonathanD> retired equipment from an old job
[18:50] <SamuraiAlba> ooooh :)
[18:50] <JonathanD> I used to work as a consultant, for an IBM business partner.
[18:51] <SamuraiAlba> ahhh
[18:51] <SamuraiAlba> I need a better job :(
[18:51] <SamuraiAlba> Boss being douche
[18:51] <SamuraiAlba> Wants me to reschedule ALL my classes for AFT 5:30pm and NOT on weekends
[18:51] <SamuraiAlba> two classes are ONLY saturday
[18:52] <SamuraiAlba> REQUIRED for Cyber Security major :(
[18:52] <JonathanD> ProLiant DL360 G4p
[18:52] <pleia2> JonathanD: will this fix the holodeck? there was another glitch http://princessleia.com/temp/phl_love_in_disney_sf.jpg
[18:52] <JonathanD> only 1GB
[18:52] <SamuraiAlba> I had a 5th gen
[18:52] <JonathanD> pleia2: not without more memory.
[18:53] <pleia2> tsk :)
[18:53] <SamuraiAlba> you need a 42U rack?
[18:54] <JonathanD> oh no.
[18:54] <JonathanD> I couldn't get one down there.
[18:54] <JonathanD> and I don't have rails anyway.
[18:54] <SamuraiAlba> I can get 4 from North Jersey for $100 each
[18:55] <JonathanD> also got a rack mount LTO2 and 24 port gbit switch
[18:55] <JonathanD> and a PIX
[18:55] <JonathanD> :P
[18:55] <JonathanD> These guys are moving out so they gave me their network
[18:55] <SamuraiAlba> I have that 48 port Cisco and the m0n0 box
[18:57] <SamuraiAlba> Did you read this http://www1.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/tresor  ???
[18:58] <JonathanD> I like mono
[18:58] <JonathanD> well, thats interesting.
[18:59] <SamuraiAlba> what is?
[18:59] <JonathanD> your link.
[18:59] <SamuraiAlba> ahhh
[18:59] <SamuraiAlba> using registers to store up to 256bit keys :)
[18:59] <SamuraiAlba> I have an i7 lappy.  I should use TRESOR :)
[19:07] <SamuraiAlba> How hard would it be to patch Ubuntu with that code?
[21:12] <SamuraiAlba> anyone?
[21:25] <MutantTurkey> no idea
[21:26] <SamuraiAlba> MuTu
[21:26] <SamuraiAlba> I restarted my RS acct
[21:26] <SamuraiAlba> got it back and restored :)
[21:34] <MutantTurkey> nice lol
[22:34] <SamuraiAlba> hihi!
[23:04] <InHisName> hi SamuraiAlba, no going to hive tonight after all?
[23:05] <InHisName> Did you say the server was 42 lbs ?   That's pretty heavy
[23:05] <SamuraiAlba> 45
[23:05] <SamuraiAlba> not able to go
[23:05] <JonathanD> InHisName: hive was last night.
[23:05] <SamuraiAlba> dang money...
[23:05] <SamuraiAlba> and I dont think they are open tonight
[23:05] <SamuraiAlba> LOL
[23:06] <JonathanD> open house is every weds
[23:06] <InHisName> hive is only one night?  I thought they had the rooms 24x7 for members ?
[23:06] <SamuraiAlba> Those are the BDSM rooms
[23:06] <SamuraiAlba> I avoid thos :)
[23:07] <SamuraiAlba> s/thos/those
[23:07] <InHisName> Uuuuhhh, I'm a bit afraid to ask what that acronym stands for.....
[23:07] <SamuraiAlba> dont ask
[23:07] <SamuraiAlba> DONT GOOGLE!
[23:09] <JonathanD> InHisName: they do.
[23:10] <JonathanD> InHisName: for members, anyway.
[23:10] <SamuraiAlba> I ordered Chinese food :)
[23:10] <SamuraiAlba> How much is membership?
[23:10] <JonathanD> can I have some?
[23:10] <JonathanD> SamuraiAlba: there are 3 levels.
[23:10] <SamuraiAlba> And... can I live there?
[23:10] <SamuraiAlba> like... I hate my house
[23:10] <SamuraiAlba> LOL
[23:10]  * SamuraiAlba gets mini fridge packed up
[23:11] <JonathanD> heh :)
[23:11] <JonathanD> theres a mini fridge there.
[23:12] <JonathanD>     Core Membership: $100 a month, for heavy users of the space
[23:12] <JonathanD>     Basic Membership: $50 a month, for most people
[23:12] <JonathanD>     Friend of Hive76: $15 a month, 'nearly' a member. Also commonly known as 'dismembership'
[23:13] <SamuraiAlba> I went and read :)
[23:13] <SamuraiAlba> I wish I could afford $100 :)
[23:13] <SamuraiAlba> Sounds AWESOME
[23:13] <JonathanD> SamuraiAlba: I am not a member, myself. I honestly don't have the time, mostly.
[23:16] <SamuraiAlba> 2 jobs here, 18 credit hours, a Comp Sci/Sociology/English tutor, and... sleep?
[23:17] <JonathanD> sleep is overrated.
[23:18] <SamuraiAlba> At least my school transcripts will be awesome
[23:18] <SamuraiAlba> 3.6gpa
[23:20] <InHisName> Good gpa
[23:20] <SamuraiAlba> thankies
[23:20] <SamuraiAlba> Got a B in Networking Fundamentals
[23:21] <SamuraiAlba> A in English 101
[23:21] <SamuraiAlba> we wont discuss Algebra... LOL
[23:23] <InHisName> my grades for those classes might be A net, A Alg, C- on a GREAT day for English
[23:31] <SamuraiAlba> hehe
[23:31] <SamuraiAlba> I used very pretentious language
[23:31] <SamuraiAlba> Professor loved it
[23:31] <SamuraiAlba> I took English 102 with the TOUGHEST prof at Uni just for the challenge next sem :)