=== SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg
[10:22] <mazal> Afternoon all
[10:27] <mazal> Anybody that can answer me on questions regarding updates on Ubuntu server ?
[10:36] <zeref> ??
[10:39] <confluency> What kinds of questions?  Don't ask if you can ask; just ask.
[10:40] <confluency> mazal: ^^^
[10:47] <mazal> I sommer put it in the email list , think that would be easier
[10:47] <mazal> So you guys will see it there thanx
[10:48] <mazal> I am so up and down that I am gonna talk in too much "payment" here :P
[10:57] <confluency> mazal: you *can*, and it *should* work, but obviously make backups and stuff.  If you have a lot of custom config in /etc, you may need to do a bit of manual admin to merge it with any new changes introduced in updated packages.
[10:58] <superfly> mazal: I just replied to your e-mail.
[10:58] <confluency> I'm personally underwhelmed by the way this is handled by teh upgrade -- I think that whatever you pick it will save the other file in the same directory with a suffix, but it doesn't *tell* you this.
[10:59] <confluency> And it doesn't let you do a custom merge on the spot (I think), so you have to go back to do it later, which is annoying.  You should write down all the config files that are affected, because I don't think it keeps a record.
[10:59] <confluency> In an emergency, I think you can do a locate on whatever the suffix is.
[11:00] <confluency> You know what?  I should paste all that into an email.
[11:07] <superfly> confluency: I agree. I'd prefer to get the new config file, but I'd like to know what changed, or at least the diff between my file and the incoming one.
[11:08] <confluency> I find it really annoying that you can't do a merge immediately.  I've usually just added one or two lines, and it's super simple to fix.
[11:27] <mazal> Thank you guys
[16:01] <queery> none of my bootable devices want to work
[16:01] <queery> I got the ISO form ubuntu.com
[16:01] <queery> and not my CD nor my Flash want to boot prop
[16:01] <queery> actually at all....
[16:02] <queery> Maaz: coffee on
[16:02]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[16:06] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for queery!
[16:06] <queery> Maaz: ty
[16:06] <Maaz> You are welcome queery
[16:06] <queery> Maaz: botsnack
[16:06] <Maaz> Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well
[17:21] <Kilos> hi superfly smile psydroid inetpro nuvolari and other lurkers
[17:22] <superfly> hi Kilos
[17:22] <Kilos> another day without power
[17:22] <smile> hi ;)
[17:23] <Kilos> hopefully escom will soon have the whole country wired and not need to switch off for 2 days to make a new connection
[17:27] <Kilos> inetpro, is dit al koud genoeg vir jou??
[17:30] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[17:30] <psydroid> hoi smile
[17:31] <psydroid> smile, snakker du norsk?
[17:31] <smile> :)
[17:31] <smile> psydroid: nein! :p
[17:31] <psydroid> smile :)
[17:31] <smile> psydroid: bedoel je: versta je noors?
[17:32] <psydroid> the grammar of norwegian is about as simple as that of afrikaans
[17:32] <psydroid> smile, spreek je noors?
[17:33] <psydroid> førstår du norsk?
[17:33] <psydroid> is volgens mij wat jij bedoelt
[17:33] <smile> psydroid: nee, ik spreek geen noors. wat zei je dan? :)
[17:34] <psydroid> smile, nog niet veel :P
[17:35] <psydroid> ik moet later maar weer eens een keer met WASDx gaan praten in het Zweeds :)
[17:35] <smile> oke! :)
[17:38] <psydroid> haha
[17:39] <psydroid> maar hij praat alleen maar over eenden
[17:39] <psydroid> dus dan wordt een uur praten wel een beetje langdradig
[17:51] <Kilos> too cold to sit at pc. i go have a hot bath and bed. night all. sleep tight
[18:37] <smile> bye :)