[00:00] <eagle_eye> KRomo: nice!
[00:00] <reza> datakid , you try grep with -i "?
[00:00] <KRomo> haha
[00:00] <nut> sry im from the south
[00:00] <escott> moonpie, really hard to say. is it connected to a usb extension hub, or directly to the computer?
[00:00] <reza> nut, are you implying people from the south are stupid by nature?
[00:00] <moonpie> escott, directly to the computer.
[00:01] <escott> moonpie, might it be a power issue? is the drive independently powered or does it rely on usb hub power?
[00:01] <escott> moonpie, are you running on AC or battery
[00:01] <nut> no but all n all if u r use a phone or to me a pc talking to ppl i kinda like to use short hart or whatever they call it
[00:01] <nut> using
[00:01] <KRomo> anyobe use ubuntuone? I cant see whyto use it over dropbox
[00:01] <anadon> I need to retrieve a specific file from a backup.  How do I do this?  I didn't use any encryption.
[00:02] <escott> anadon, what backup system did you use?
[00:02] <moonpie> escott, it relies on usb power. computer plugged in
[00:02] <anadon> escott: deja-dup
[00:02] <eagle_eye> nut: is English a native language for you?
[00:02] <KRomo> is there a way to have a secondary hd mount at boot?
[00:02] <nut> yes
[00:02] <xangua> !u | nut
[00:02] <escott> moonpie, are you running on AC or battery? do you have a lot of other usb devices connected that need usb hub power?
[00:03] <nut> it is how it is man
[00:03] <datakid> reza, I don't think it's the case sensitivity that
[00:03] <datakid> 's  the problem
[00:03] <datakid> it's the wconfig output
[00:03] <lkj> !ops
[00:03] <yano> yes?
[00:03] <lkj> something to do with Unity blah blah blah. You know the fucking drill.
[00:04] <xangua> !language | lkj
[00:04] <moonpie> escott, computer is plugged in. i have nothing else connected to the computer except for this ext hd with two partitions. i can't drag and drop files into the partition but i can copy them onto the computer.
[00:04] <escott> anadon, thats one thing i dont like about deja-dup is that seemed harder to restore a single file verses the whole kit-and-kaboodle. theoretically the files it creates are just tarballs so if you can find the right tarball, but its probably easier to do a full restore to a selected directory if the gui doesn't give you a better option (sorry just dont know deja-dup)
[00:04] <anadon> lkj: Watch it.
[00:04] <anadon> escott: I just want one small document--my resume...FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU
[00:04] <escott> moonpie, the whole "drag and drop" is a few steps ahead of us at the moment. i want to know why your disk was spontaneously ejected from the system
[00:05] <moonpie> escott, sorry. yes.
[00:05] <anadon> escott: Is there much rhyme or reason to the storing mechanism?
[00:05] <escott> anadon, don't assume that i know everything about deja-dup. it may be possible. its not the tool i use
[00:05] <anadon> escott: Sorry.
[00:05] <moonpie> escott, according to nautilus its connected
[00:05] <nut> i justmwould like a little help trying to get a laptop hard drive up and running again but it is saying womething about a missing super-block in the filesystem
[00:06] <nut> i hate this keyboard
[00:06] <escott> anadon, all methods have advantages and disadvantages. if you need a backup system that allows you access to one off files i would recommend rsync. doesn't help your current problem though
[00:06] <moonpie> escott, this is sooo weird, indeed. and thx for your help. you really know how to troubleshoot.
[00:06] <eagle_eye> !ot | nut
[00:06] <escott> moonpie, why dont you eject the disk. remove it. replug it, and then try those commands i sent you earlier
[00:06] <moonpie> ok
[00:07] <moonpie> escott, ok
[00:07] <escott> moonpie, sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/; ls -la /mnt; sudo touch /mnt/test_file_creation_root ; touch /mnt_test_file_creation_nonroot; ls -la /mnt; whoami
[00:07] <anadon> escott: Well, HD died, got a 20G SSD.  It worked at the time, but not now.  My backup is larger than my disk...
[00:07] <nut> im still using xubuntu to try and fix it
[00:08] <nut> i dont understand the prob??
[00:08] <gvo> nut have your tried e2fsck?
[00:08] <nut> in google or terminal??
[00:09] <gvo> nut in terminal.
[00:09] <lgc> Hi, is it possible to just sync certain folders in my Ubuntu One cloud?
[00:09] <nut> k no i havnt i dont know all the commands
[00:09] <gvo> nut what device are you getting the error on?
[00:11] <nut> it gave mck a bunch of gibberish back i havnt figured out what all i need to type
[00:11] <MeXTuX> I'm using command line svn client and everytime I enter a command this warning appears ---> WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /tmp/keyring-lm7o0e/pkcs11: No such file or directory
[00:11] <moonpie> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1027801/ same exact print out. and the  ext hard drive is connected!
[00:12] <gvo> nut pastebin the gibberish
[00:12] <escott> moonpie, did you issue the mount command first?
[00:12] <nut> its a western digital 60 gb hd it was like a passport or something lie that but the case broke a while back but is still good
[00:12] <moonpie> escott, nooo. ugh!
[00:12] <escott> moonpie, dont give me last test this test. give the pure unadulterated session
[00:12] <escott> moonpie, from the moment you plug it in, and dont click anything in the gui
[00:13] <nut> crap
[00:13] <lgc> Hi, is it possible to just sync certain folders in my Ubuntu One cloud?
[00:14] <escott> MeXTuX, you have an invalid GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL environment variable. are you running in an xterm? are you running as the same user who owns the xsession?
[00:14] <GapSpark> startkeylogger
[00:14] <bazhang> lgc you might try asking in #ubuntuone
[00:14] <GapSpark> stopkeylogger
[00:14] <GapSpark> startkeylogger
[00:14] <bazhang> GapSpark, stop that
[00:14] <GapSpark> bazhang ?
[00:14] <GapSpark> hello people
[00:14] <GapSpark> stopkeylogger
[00:14] <FloodBot1> GapSpark: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:14] <GapSpark> startkeylogger
[00:14] <lgc> bazhang, I did, but didn't get any answer.
[00:14] <bazhang> GapSpark, dont test your irc client here
[00:15] <GapSpark> bazhang huh?
[00:15] <Kornkage4> he think someone here is using norton antivirus..
[00:15] <nut> i cant get it to paste here??
[00:15] <bazhang> GapSpark, the keylogger commands. that has nothing to do with ubuntu support so stop it
[00:15] <MeXTuX> escott: in fact I'm using Xubuntu 12.04
[00:15] <GapSpark> stopkeylogger
[00:15] <GapSpark> startkeylogger
[00:15] <sarsaeol> lol
[00:15] <KRomo> is there a really pretty tetris game for linux?
[00:15] <gvo> !pastebin|nut
[00:16] <nut> oh in ubuntu community
[00:16] <moonpie> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1027810/
[00:16] <marc_12314> Hi, newb here with raid stuff…  I have four 2tb drive, my motherboard say it allow raid 0/0+1/1, so no raid 5… but I read that mdadm is software base raid, does it means that I can still put my drives in raid 5 instead of two raid1 array?
[00:16] <escott> MeXTuX, not sure how that is relevant. if you dont want to use the gnome-keyring you should just unset the variable in your shell. perhaps you started the keyring and then killed it, but your shell got the variable?
[00:17] <nut> well how can i in the terminal check the disk for errors and fix them??
[00:17] <escott> moonpie, i see you are trying to mount sdb, you want sdc. i was modifying your original commands and didn't notice the change.
[00:18] <MeXTuX> escott: How can I check that?
[00:18] <schnuffle> nut: the tool is e2fsck but the partition needs to be unmounted
[00:18] <gvo> nut I'm done.  You don't answer the questions, I can't help
[00:18] <moonpie> escott, ok doing it all over. lol...i didnt notice either
[00:18] <ruDErz> mning al
[00:18] <ruDErz> halo
[00:18] <escott> moonpie, try "ls -la /media/backup1010ext4; sudo touch /media/backup1010ext4/test_root; touch /media/backup1010ext4/test_nonroot; ls -la /media/backup1010ext4; whoami
[00:18] <nut> it doesnt even show unless i go to gparted and look at it
[00:19] <escott> marc_12314, mdadm should support raid5 personalities
[00:19] <escott> marc_12314, do not use motherboard intel fake-raid not real raid no battery backup wont boot stupid idea raid
[00:20] <OliverW> Does anybody know how to change the time to suspend (found in power settings) from the command line? I'd like to schedule a shorter time for the evenings and longer times during the day.
[00:20] <hilo> hello!!
[00:20] <toafan_> OliverW: what, so scripting?
[00:21] <schnuffle> marc_12314: softeaid supports rai5 but for booting from only raid1 is supported afaik
[00:21] <hilo> Is there a tool similar to rsync for backing up locally?
[00:21] <OliverW> toafan_, yeah, just schedule it with cron
[00:21] <escott> OliverW, check gsettings
[00:21] <schnuffle> hilo: duplicity
[00:21] <gvo> hilo rsync can write to a local file system
[00:21] <nut> i found some help on it
[00:21] <escott> hilo, the most similar tool to rsync for local backups is rsync
[00:22] <hilo> escott: do I leave out the ssh stuff for local or just do it all the same?
[00:23] <sacarlson> hilo: I think you can use it same as cp for local
[00:23] <escott> hilo, as long as its a valid "url" which could be an "ssh://" protocol specification or an absolute or relative path specification. rsync doesnt care. it just parses the path
[00:24] <gvo> hilo: rsync -a /home/me/all/*  /var/tmp/backup
[00:24] <escott> hilo, now im curious what happens if you say "rsync ssh://host1/path1 ssh://host2/path2" but i dont see why that wouldnt work
[00:25] <jagginess> gvo, rsync -av /source/ /target/   (-v shows whats being copied)
[00:25] <gvo> jagginess: So?
[00:25] <phelipe> exit
[00:25] <jagginess> gvo, /source/* not the same as /source/
[00:25] <gvo> jagginess: I know
[00:26] <jagginess> -_-
[00:26] <gvo> jagginess: Nor is it the same as /source
[00:26] <marc_12314> Well, maybe you guys can give me some advices, I have ubuntu server installed on two 40gb IDE drive (raid1), used it for 1 year, works great so far. I use it for our media/file server…  I had two 2tb drives, but no backup, since I don't want to loose all the kids movies and have to rip all those dvd again (I just hate dvd, always end up loosing the one the kids want to watch anyway)…   so, I decided to buy two more 2tb drive and was planning to
[00:26] <marc_12314> create two raid1 array, but just learn that raid5 would give me the same security and give me more space (6tb instead of 4tb right?)…   anything else I should know about? other raid options? do you recommend to buy a 50$ raid card from an online store to have hardware raid instead?
[00:26] <JDuke128> hello , when i install ubuntu on my server  , i got broken screen after installation , i can't enter anywhere , i see something like this : http://postimage.org/image/ux6gy26at/
[00:26] <JDuke128> someone know why ?
[00:26] <escott> booo rsync doesn't support both source and destination being remote. why cant i be stupid if i want to. what happened to freedom
[00:26] <jagginess> gvo, so if you're wrong don't feel insulted. you talk like an ass
[00:26] <moonpie> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1027822/
[00:27] <compdoc> freedom? I want some
[00:27] <JDuke128> please how can i fix the issue ?
[00:27] <JDuke128> someone know solution ?
[00:27] <OliverW> escott, thanks, that works great :)
[00:27] <schnuffle> JDuke128: video driver problem
[00:27] <gvo> jagginess: I didn't feel insulted  I just didn't understand why you had to say what you did
[00:27] <JDuke128> schnuffle , how can i fix ?
[00:27] <escott> moonpie, left out the crucial ls /media/backup1010ext4 but it seems to be working
[00:27] <jagginess> gvo, because you're wrong.
[00:28]  * jagginess ignores gvo
[00:28] <gvo> fine
[00:28] <schnuffle> JDuke128: what graphic chip do you have
[00:28] <JDuke128> ATI
[00:29] <escott> marc_12314, not sure i see the advantage of converting personalities just for a few terabytes. you could just buy another disk. there are advantages to a 1+0 structure in that you can split the mirrors. if you do decide to go with a card, be sure to get one that has a battery backup
[00:29] <schnuffle> JDuke128: paste lspci | grep VGA
[00:30] <randomDude> marc_12314: don't use raid5 if you care about the data
[00:30] <schnuffle> randomDude: Any proove to backup your statement?
[00:31] <randomDude> schnuffle: the write hole?
[00:31] <schnuffle> ?
[00:31] <moonpie> escott, its there.  ls -la /media/backup1010ext4
[00:31] <escott> so now try and copy with the gui a file into /media/backup1010ext4
[00:32] <mefistofeles> hey, how should I run a command when the X server (or lightdm) starts?
[00:32] <escott> mefistofeles, what command do you want to run?
[00:32] <gvo> schnuffle: http://www.recoveryforce.com/articles/185-raid-5-is-your-data-safe
[00:32] <mefistofeles> escott: xinput set-int-prop "AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint " "Device Enabled" 8 0
[00:33] <faryshta> How do I set an image as background on libreoffice presentation?
[00:33] <mefistofeles> it needs X, so that's why I think it must be inside lightdm autostart or something
[00:34] <escott> mefistofeles, perhaps in /etc/X11/Xsession.d somewhere
[00:34] <gvo> faryshta: #liberoffice perhaps
[00:34] <gvo> or #libreoffice
[00:34] <moonpie> escott, "Error while copying to "external hard drive". The destination is read-only. argh!!!!!! same error! doesnt make any sense at all!
[00:34] <garmonbozia> Okay, so I have a pretty sill question. I was trying to install Java and found myself going through tutorial after tutorial only to find out I only needed icetea6. But now I get this: Errors were encountered while processing: oracle-java7-installer
[00:34] <jagginess> mefistofeles, if you find out how for just a particular user account let me know, i know how to do for all users though (/etc/xdg/autostart).. i couldnt find a document for this either (I know i can for gdm/gdm and before lightdm was released)
[00:35] <escott> moonpie, what gui tool is this and who is it running as?
[00:35] <gvo> Since I can't spell in English;
[00:35] <moonpie> im using nautilus. and im running as homer.
[00:35] <mefistofeles> jagginess: I see, though I need it for all users, thanks for your comment gonna try it
[00:35] <faryshta> gvo, I posted my question there already, no answers.
[00:35] <marc_12314> I thought that on four 2tb drive, raid5 would give me 6tb instead of 4tb with raid1… and that raid5 was as safe as raid 1… I'm wrong? (then anyone have a good website to explain the details, seems that those I found might not be the best info :P)
[00:35] <wa5qjh> Quickie, Can I upgrade 11.10 to 12.04 without loosing all I've put into 11.10? if so, is there a web page I can goto for details ?
[00:35] <escott> moonpie, ps aux | grep nautilus; lets see what that says
[00:36] <jagginess> mefistofeles, you make a .desktop file, there are other .desktop files there that are vital and shouldn't be blindly moved outta their place..
[00:36] <mefistofeles> jagginess: sure, thanks
[00:36] <escott> marc_12314, there is a write-hole problem in raid5 where data may not make it to the correct disks in the right way before a power failure
[00:36] <KRomo> is there a really pretty tetris game for linux?
[00:37] <gvo> marc_12314: Raid 5 is somewhat risky http://www.recoveryforce.com/articles/185-raid-5-is-your-data-safe
[00:37] <garmonbozia> how do I get rid of this error. It happened because I used this tutorial: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-java-runtime-environment-jre-in-ubuntu.html
[00:37] <moonpie> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1027829/
[00:37] <jagginess> escott power failure? raid is never good without battery backup i think everyone knows this (including me!!)
[00:37] <escott> jagginess, yes.. which is why i was telling marc_12314 that
[00:38] <escott> moonpie, screenshots of what you are doing. thats all i can think of at this point
[00:39] <escott> marc_12314, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID_5_write_hole
[00:40] <Conflag> register
[00:40] <moonpie> escott, ok! here we go! but one last thing before i do that. the permissions i have set up for the ext hd: backup1010...were changed that homer is the only person who can read and write on the disk. how can i change it so anyone can read and write on the disk?
[00:40] <marc_12314> oh, I see… didn't read that in the info I found… good to know… then I'll stick with raid1 I guess… So raid5 won't work unless a broken disk is replaced right?  but with raid1, the system continue to work?
[00:42] <mefistofeles> jagginess: http://pastie.org/4041400 this should do it?
[00:43] <gvo> marc_12314: The folks around here that really want raid to work right are stuck on raid10.
[00:43] <jagginess> mefistofeles, i dont know about that, maybe you need an execparam= or whatever.. but you can use a .sh file in the Exec= line .. also there's a .desktop thing to not show a terminal box if calling an .sh file ..
[00:43] <escott> moonpie, so for directories the only permissions that make much sense are 7 (full access to that folder meaning creating, renaming, and deleting files) and 5 meaning (list the contents of the folder-- reading the files is controlled by the files permissions). so 777 means anyone can modify the folder contents 755 means only you can modify the contents but anyone can read them, and 770 means that you or your group can modify the contents
[00:43] <escott> but other cannot see it at all. see !permissions for more examples. chmod 777 /media/thatfoldername
[00:44] <faryshta> How do I set an image as background on libreoffice presentation?
[00:44] <reisio> faryshta: #libreoffice
[00:44] <escott> marc_12314, either could continue to run in a degraded mode, but thats discouraged
[00:44] <moonpie> escott, do you think that might make a difference? im gonna try, anywhich way!
[00:44] <jagginess> mefistofeles, there's another .desktop file there that says it, it has 'terminal*=' something as the config word
[00:44] <hilo> How can I figure out which physical hard drive (by serial number or something like that) corresponds to which logical device (/dev/sdx or UUID)?
[00:45] <mefistofeles> jagginess: ok, gonna check it, thanks
[00:45] <reisio> hilo: /sbin/blkid
[00:45] <escott> marc_12314, also disk failures are HIGHLY coorelated by environmental factors. so when one disk in a case fails be thinking "I have 2 days until every disk fails"
[00:45] <escott> moonpie, it shouldnt make any difference
[00:45] <gvo> hilo try blkid
[00:45] <bazhang> http://ask.libreoffice.org/question/1308/easier-to-apply-background-in-impress   <------- faryshta
[00:45] <jagginess> hilo, blkid<enter> or ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid
[00:45] <escott> hilo, "sudo blkid"
[00:46] <Blackshirt> Hilo, first primary was sda, second primary was sdb..i think like that
[00:46] <hilo> When I use those commands, it prints out all the UUID's but how do I associate which ones belong to which drive? There are multiple controllers with many drives.
[00:46] <marc_12314> escott: well, it takes usually 2 day for my shipping to arrive :)  and it's only for my home media server…
[00:47] <jagginess> hilo, there are symlinks..
[00:48] <jagginess> hilo, find /dev/disk/
[00:48] <faryshta> reisio, I already asked on #libreoffice but the channel is dead.
[00:48] <bazhang> faryshta, I gave you the answer
[00:50] <hilo> I ran this command: "sudo blkid -o full" and the output did not include all the drives that I am using (they are members of the linuxraid).
[00:50] <faryshta> bazhang, I see. Thanks.
[00:51] <marc_12314> thanks a lot for your help guys, helped me a lot understand raid better…   last question … I have two Western Digital (same model) and two Samsung (same model also)…  should I raid1 two drive of the same model, or should I put a WD and a Samsung together?   (might be a little far fetch, but I'm guessing if a WD fail, the other WD would have more chance to fail since it's the exact same model)
[00:52] <gvo> marc_12314: If they are bought at the same time, sure.
[00:52] <faryshta> bazhang, It worked. Do you know how to gave a transparency to the BG image?
[00:53] <cipher__> i've lost all sound, and all options under gnome-control-center for sound are grayed out
[00:53] <Jordan_U> marc_12314: That's the standard thought, yes.
[00:53] <bazhang> faryshta, no idea. try on the ask.libreoffice site, or the irc libreoffice channel
[00:53] <escott> marc_12314, its not that far fetched. i sadly (and stupidly) at one time had two hitachi deathstars. will never make that mistake again
[00:53] <moonpie> escott, http://imagebin.org/215438
[00:53] <cipher__> last time changing my kernel fixed it
[00:54] <cipher__> i don't recall which version it was, nor how :(
[00:54] <marc_12314> escott: they broke at the same time?
[00:54] <Nerdus> where are plugins of audacity ?  thanks.
[00:54] <escott> marc_12314, pretty much
[00:55] <moonpie> escott, http://imagebin.org/215439
[00:55] <marc_12314> escott: that sucks :P   alright, I'll go and rebuild my array with different model… only took 14h for 2tb anyway o_O
[00:55] <escott> moonpie, can you send me the "mount" output one more time
[00:55] <faryshta> bazhang, the #libreoffice channel is dead. Let me try ask.libreoffice
[00:55] <bazhang> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/plugins Nerdus
[00:57] <moonpie> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1027853/
[00:58] <dontknow> i have gnome do 0.9 file duplication issue
[00:59] <Girffe> I'm trying to install NVIDIA drivers (GTX 680) on my ubuntu 12.04 x64 machine, and I need to stop the X server to install the driver. However, when I run 'sudo stop lightdm', it brings me to a red screen instead of a terminal, and none of the combinations I tried (ctrl+alt+number, ctrl+alt+esc, others) did anything. Does anyone know what's wrong?
[00:59] <escott> moonpie, i dont know
[01:00] <sacarlson> Girffe: maybe try nomodeset ?
[01:00] <Girffe> sacarlson: I don't know what that is, can you elaborate?
[01:00] <moonpie> escott, do you think if just get a new ext hd. connect this one to a diff linux set up and then transfer the files over to the new hd there will be no problem? sorry. i thinkim loopy from spedning like 3 hours trying to troubleshoot this.
[01:01] <dontknow> gnome do duplicate files for example one of them is like "~/documents/anyfile" other one is "file://~document/anyfile" why is it like that?
[01:01] <moonpie> escott, i mean copy files from the ext hd thats acting weird onto a new hd. or will the permissions on the new for the files be the same?
[01:01] <escott> moonpie, its really confusing with the number of external disks you have plugged into that system, but (if im looking at the right devices) it should be working. i dont know what to tell you
[01:01] <HrdwrBoB> morning all
[01:01] <chris_> hello
[01:01] <moonpie> i have 1 ext hd with two partitions
[01:01] <chris_> morning
[01:02] <escott> moonpie, if the drive were to suddenly fail in some way it should drop to read only and should appear that way in mount
[01:02] <moonpie> escott, i have one ext hd with two partitions
[01:02] <escott> moonpie, no you have three different disks. sdb, sdc and sdd
[01:02] <kizzy> i did a total reinstall and no crashing of system now
[01:02] <escott> moonpie, unless you dont have three disks plugged into this machine?
[01:02] <HrdwrBoB> I've just installed Xen 4.1 on Ubuntu 12.04 but it just reboots after the initial (XEN) messages
[01:02] <moonpie> escott, what is the sdd? i have two partitions on my internal hd? is the the sdd?
[01:03] <moonpie> escott, one of those?
[01:03] <forbidden404> Hey, guys, is there a way to add a repository... "smoothly" ? Like when I type sudo apt-get -y
[01:03] <escott> moonpie, your mount output lists: /dev/sdb2 on /mnt type ext4 (rw) /dev/sdc2 on /media/backup1010ext4 type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks) /dev/sdd2 on /media/backup1010ext4_ type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)
[01:03] <forbidden404> sudo apt-add-repository -y works for it?
[01:03] <toafan_> moonpie: partitions on main drive would be sda1, sda2, etc
[01:03] <escott> moonpie, that says to me that right now you have THREE different disks in THREE different cases attached to the computer
[01:03] <scar3crow> help setting my boot to display the splash image pls, nvidia card (online faq and grub-customizer do not work)
[01:04] <sacarlson> !nomodeset girffe
[01:04] <toafan_> moonpie: if it comes to copying files off the drive, you might try re-formating it after backingup
[01:04] <sacarlson> girffe http://askubuntu.com/questions/83642/nomodeset-installation
[01:04] <roasted> Question - anybody running nginx? I tried installing it but it didn't put anything in /var/www. In fact, it didn't even add the "www" dir like I thought it would. Anybody running it by chance?
[01:04] <scar3crow> !splash
[01:05] <faryshta> How do I create a custom gradient on libreoffice?
[01:05] <datakid> any good guides or tips on data collection via cli? Am writing a small bash script to measure web connection using ping, mtr, output redirection and cron...but I'm not sure how best to structure the output to make it easy to parse later
[01:05] <moonpie> escott, what is the sdd2? where did that come from? i only have one backup1010ext4. what is this  /dev/sdd2 on /media/backup1010ext4_ type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)?
[01:05] <forbidden404> I'm doing a pos-installation script for my Ubuntu, so one of the command lines is about adding repositories, is there a way to make it automatic? Without the need to press <enter>? Like when I type sudo apt-get install -y, this works for add-apt-repository?
[01:06] <escott> moonpie, sdd2 is the second partition on the 4th drive attached to the computer. sda is your first drive (your installed system) sdb is your first (external unless you have multiple internals) drive, sdc the third, and sdd the fourth. if you only have the one external drive then thats our problem. i dont know how you got into this state, but thats the problem
[01:07] <sacarlson> forbidden404: you could have your script edit the /etc/apt/sources.list maybe with the sed editor
[01:07] <moonpie> escott, that is the problem! i only have one ext hd with two partitions attached to this computer. what on earth went haywire? how can i erase this sdd2?
[01:07] <forbidden404> sacarlson: Just adding the ppa lines on /etc/apt/sources.list?
[01:08] <sacarlson> forbidden404: ya that would be one option just append the lines
[01:08] <escott> moonpie, i would just reboot at this point. and then plug in the disk. eject it in nautilus. remove it. plug it in again, eject it. do that a couple times, and then post the dmesg output
[01:08] <JohnTeddy> I plugged in a USB WiFi adapter.. though my original WiFi PCI-e adapter built-in to my laptop keeps turning back on. I did 'ifconfig eth1 down', it goes down... after several seconds though it comes back up...
[01:08] <JohnTeddy> How can I put eth1 down, and keep it down?
[01:09] <escott> moonpie, the kernel is clearly confused about this device so trying to figure it out from the current state will be hard, maybe from a clean reboot something in dmesg will explain what is happening
[01:09] <sacarlson> forbidden404: you would also have to add apt-get update; to your script after you modified the list
[01:09] <forbidden404> sacarlson, sudo sh -c must works, but I thought I will have to add a lot of lines D: I don't know a lot of bash scripting, is there a way to end a line with sudo sh-c ?
[01:09] <moonpie> escott,  dmesg | tail -n 100 this command?
[01:09] <forbidden404> sacarlson, I did this already
[01:10] <escott> moonpie, yeah but with multiple replugs we may want tail -n 200
[01:10] <roasted> Question - anybody running nginx? I tried installing it but it didn't put anything in /var/www. In fact, it didn't even add the "www" dir like I thought it would. Anybody running it by chance?
[01:10] <moonpie> escott, okie dokie. thanks very much for your help. i hope i dont have to come back.
[01:10] <sacarlson> forbidden404:  echo "line to add to list" >> /path/to/list ;
[01:11] <moonpie> toafan_, thanks too
[01:11] <forbidden404> sacarlson, this is my script http://paste.ubuntu.com/1027866/ | I know that echo, but that way I'd add two lines deb and deb-src
[01:11] <forbidden404> sacarlson, like echo "line" >> /path; another echo "line" >> /path
[01:14] <sml1226> Any ideas as to why my wireless doesn't show up (no networks, no eth1, doesn't appear to be there), but the driver scanning found the card and installed drivers?
[01:14] <sirriffsalot_> Hey! Any recommendations for dark themes that don't make things difficult to read et cetera for Xfce4?
[01:15] <sacarlson> forbidden404: why not just add all the repository list into the wget?  or is that just so you can modify it without change to your wget list
[01:15] <sml1226> XFCE questions are probably more likely to find an answer in the xubuntu room. I used to know some, but I haven't used XFCE in over a year now. Can't remember any of them
[01:16] <sacarlson> forbidden404: if you want a new line added there is the "\n"  that I think should add lines into your list also
[01:16] <forbidden404> sacarlson, I don't know that urls from those ppas, but I will look
[01:16] <sirriffsalot_> sml1226: cheers, asked there too:)
[01:16] <forbidden404> \n would work in echo? I'm afraid of it write something like "blabla \n blabla"
[01:17] <sacarlson> forbidden404: look at a list after you add one to find out
[01:17] <forbidden404> sacarlson, I will do this
[01:17] <roasted> Question - anybody running nginx? I tried installing it but it didn't put anything in /var/www. In fact, it didn't even add the "www" dir like I thought it would. Anybody running it by chance?
[01:18] <sml1226> sirriffsalot_ Whatever the default was for Karmic (I think) was a pretty good one.
[01:18] <MameManedWolf> can someone help me?
[01:18] <bazhang> MameManedWolf, ask a question to the channel
[01:18] <ceti331_> which is the linux channel most concerned with desktop effects
[01:19] <bazhang> ceti331_, #compiz
[01:19] <ceti331_> thaks
[01:20] <MameManedWolf> today, i installed ubuntu 12.04 minimal. I added the elementary repos and installed elementary os. ater, i realized that upstart fails to start network-manager, so i have to mnually start it. anyway to get it to automatcially start?
[01:20] <bazhang> MameManedWolf, what are the elementary repos
[01:21] <MameManedWolf> bazhang - elementary os on #elementary-dev lets just say i installed a desktop environment and nm does not start so i have to manually start it
[01:21] <bazhang> MameManedWolf, then ask the elementary OS support group/irc channel; it's not supported here
[01:22] <MameManedWolf> no, it has to do with ubuntu and upsatrt i believe
[01:22] <bazhang> MameManedWolf, rad the upstart wiki, elementary OS is not supported here
[01:22] <bazhang> +e
[01:22] <MameManedWolf> it ubuntu
[01:23] <MameManedWolf> with elementary
[01:23] <MameManedWolf> stuff
[01:23] <bazhang> MameManedWolf, lets see your sources.list
[01:23] <forbidden404> sacarlson, adding a http://ppa.launchpad.net/deluge-team/ppa/ubuntu/ $(lsb_release -sc) to wget will add this one on the output, right? I guess this will take more code, I want to make this clean
[01:23] <sml1226> I had my wireless working in 8.04, 9.04, 10.10 (X)Ubu, now (12.04) no variant of the drivers work. Any ideas? (Broadcom B4311 using STA drivers as I did before)
[01:24] <alexhairyman> Is there an application that will do the same thing as realpath, but that is included on the system by default
[01:24] <alexhairyman> ?
[01:24] <Madpilot> alexhairyman, what does realpath do?
[01:24] <bazhang> alexhairyman, what does realpath do
[01:25] <alexhairyman> coreutils utility to print out the absolute path for an application
[01:25] <MameManedWolf> bazhang - http://pastebin.com/zcKww89X
[01:26] <sacarlson> forbidden404: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/abogani/ppa/ubuntu lucid main
[01:26] <alexhairyman> I think readlink -f will work, I'm not sure though
[01:26] <bazhang> MameManedWolf, there's not any elementary repos in that. perhaps you meant Precise repos
[01:26] <MameManedWolf> elementary repos are ppas
[01:27] <xangua> sacarlson: looks like that ppa is no longer aviable
[01:27] <sacarlson> forbidden404: so I think yours might at least be missing main at the end
[01:27] <bazhang> MameManedWolf, PPA are not supported, whats the real issue with the Precise install
[01:27] <xangua> forbidden404: ooh it's a nick :P
[01:28] <forbidden404> sacarlson, so I must add this to the /etc/apt/source.lists using echo, like sudo echo "deb http://... \n deb-src http:// \n deb http://another-one"
[01:28] <MameManedWolf> bazhang - I installed ubuntu minimal, then a desktop environment and network-manager doesnt start unless i do it manually
[01:28] <forbidden404> xangua, haha lol
[01:28] <sirriffsalot_> What is the name of the default theme in ubuntu karmic?:P
[01:29] <escott> forbidden404, you might need echo -e. i would use two echo commands
[01:29] <escott> forbidden404, also sudo echo >> does not work you must use tee
[01:29] <Madpilot> sirriffsalot_, Ambience, apparently
[01:29] <sacarlson> forbidden404: that might work, ya but as escott says I would just make them into different lines for at least easy reading
[01:30] <sirriffsalot_> Not a very special one, lol. It is the default now too it seems
[01:30] <KRomo> linux and osx are both unix based right?
[01:30] <escott> forbidden404, be wary of echo and special characters. you run something in dash and it uses the dash builtin echo which doesn't support that special character interpretation and things break
[01:30] <bazhang> !ot | KRomo
[01:31] <moonpie> escott, if you are still here, i could actually drop a file in the ext hd after restarting it 3x. omg. and the sdd2 vanished! so the kernel just got superconfused. hmmm. just gonna say ive never had a buggier exp with ubuntu than this lts. 10.04 thru 11.04 worked. when i ever i leave the computer more than a day lots of utilities go haywire. i guess my ext hd went haywire and went into the rabbit hole of 12.04.
[01:31] <forbidden404> sacarlson, escott, I just want this to... run while i'm doing other things, so I don't want to be back on the pc just to tap enter, I think D: So I'm afraid about using echo or stuff
[01:31] <escott> forbidden404, command 1; command 2; or command 1 && command 2
[01:32] <dontknow> gnome do is awesome
[01:32] <moonpie> escott, really thanks for your help too.
[01:32] <forbidden404> escott, I just don't want to press enter all the time, so doing echo ... && must work
[01:32] <sacarlson> forbidden404: you can test your echo adds before you do any damage just try it and do apt-get update; to see if the adds worked
[01:33] <forbidden404> sacarlson, I will test it now
[01:33] <escott> forbidden404, this echo command is going to take a second to execute. im confused why you cant just run it now and see. perhaps im missing something
[01:33] <forbidden404> escott, I'm creatin a script
[01:33] <MameManedWolf> bazhang?
[01:34] <sacarlson> escott: did you see his script above?
[01:34] <forbidden404> escott, I don't plan to use it now, but when I reinstall Ubuntu or something, I'd run it and it will make the basic, like remove & add apps, mount drives and stuff
[01:35] <MameManedWolf> does anyone know why network-manager does not start when i boot ubuntu?
[01:35] <escott> forbidden404, i would take all the "sudo" out of that script. and just run "sudo myconfigscript.sh"
[01:36] <forbidden404> oh
[01:36] <escott> forbidden404, the other thing that might be easier would be to install etckeeper, and merge your custom etc into the default etc
[01:36] <sacarlson> MameManedWolf: try run it in a term or start it in term to see error
[01:36] <escott> forbidden404, easier if you know a version control system that is
[01:36] <MameManedWolf> sacarlson - i have to manually start it
[01:36] <Bashmetim> Can I fish for some emergency help with eCryptfs?
[01:37] <sacarlson> MameManedWolf: oh then it's a time thing wrong sequence start
[01:37] <MameManedWolf> sacarlson - how can i fix that?
[01:37] <sacarlson> MameManedWolf: install a real ubuntu will fix it
[01:37] <MameManedWolf> uhh, i installed ubuntu minimal
[01:38] <tiox> I asked about this before and received no response; Prior versions of Ubuntu (up to 11.10), my AT&T Mercury could establish a connection and I could be online with that, but with Ubuntu 12.04, I cannot. Anything I can do to resolve this issue?
[01:38] <Bashmetim> My sister fucked up her computer by deleting something in .ecryptfs, but I told her her data was still there...
[01:38] <escott> forbidden404, then you can take out this crazy sh -c "command >> file" business
[01:38] <sacarlson> MameManedWolf: do a diff on your configs with a real ubuntu
[01:38] <MameManedWolf> k
[01:38] <tiox> It's a 3G modem that use to work until the newest Ubuntu.
[01:38] <Bashmetim> I should still be able to access it if I have the password, I just need to figure out how to fix what she did.
[01:38] <tiox> Before that, an AT&T Quicksilver worked with Ubuntu 10.10.
[01:38] <MameManedWolf> maybe il go get the working configs and put them on here
[01:38] <forbidden404> escott, I will look this etckeeper, see if I can understand how it works
[01:38] <escott> forbidden404, also line 57 all kinds of wrong :)
[01:39] <forbidden404> escott, Why? It worked the first time I used
[01:39] <escott> forbidden404, if you never used git or mercurial or svn or anything then dont use etckeeper
[01:39] <forbidden404> escott, I never used them ): I use Linux... since december
[01:39] <Bashmetim> ...
[01:39] <tiox> Actually, might have the name fo teh devices wrong. No matter; 3G dongles by AT&T use to work with Ubuntu.
[01:40] <Bashmetim> Please?
[01:40] <D-coy> m4v, r u there?
[01:41] <ubuntu_> anyone able to help me out with a simple question?
[01:41] <sacarlson> MameManedWolf: I think the files that would control the sequence would be in /etc/rc*
[01:41] <MameManedWolf> k thx
[01:41] <forbidden404> ubuntu, We all are able, since we know the question
[01:41] <ubuntu_> Aye
[01:41] <Bashmetim> ununtu__ I might
[01:41] <ubuntu_> I kicked windows out
[01:42] <Bashmetim> Good for you
[01:42] <Bashmetim> Then what?
[01:42] <ubuntu_> and I have a second hdd i use in my ultrabay, im just going to use this for vmware images
[01:42] <escott> forbidden404, sudo sh -c "echo 'echo 'OFF' blah blah '" is going to parse as echo ['echo '][OFF]['blah blah'] not echo ['echo 'OFF' blah blah'] and then will output "echo OFF blah blah" so you are dropping some of the ''s that you presumably wanted. its caused by your having multiple echos and these subshells. you dont need them. run the script as root and remove the sudos and subshells inside it
[01:42] <ubuntu_> so i dont really want to mount the second hdd as /home
[01:43] <ubuntu_> can I just set it as /virtualmachines? and its simple as that?
[01:43] <Bashmetim> I believe you could, though it would make me wince if I saw it.
[01:43] <chemist_> I am having a problem with my monitors. I ubdated my system but prematurely restarted the computer. I had to select an old setting to get my monitors to work again but when they did, only one was working. I tried going to system, preferences, monitors and tried going to that route. The monitors appear as unknown and when I try to detect nothing happens. I have unplugged the cables and plugged them back in and the monitors were work
[01:43] <Bashmetim> You can set up any mount point, really.
[01:43] <ubuntu_> hmm
[01:44] <chemist_> In the upper left corner of the screen is a second unknown monitor box but I am not able to select it
[01:44] <ubuntu_> can it be say /home/virtualmachines?
[01:44] <tiox> Anyone wanna help me with this, or does the Ubuntu developers not believe anyone uses a 3G modem to get access to the internet anymore?
[01:44] <ubuntu_> and if i had to swap it out for a cdrom drive
[01:44] <escott> forbidden404, in this case you don't need the OFF quoted 'OFF' is the same as OFF but you are setting yourself up for something broken the way you are doing things
[01:44] <ubuntu_> keep my home dir but lose the /vm dir
[01:44] <Bashmetim> You can mkdir /home/vms
[01:45] <Bashmetim> and then add this hard drive to /etc/fstab
[01:45] <forbidden404> escott, look what I got using that two sh -c #! /bin/bash
[01:45] <forbidden404> echo OFF > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch, so now I removed those ' ', but is there a way to put " " using echo?
[01:45] <chemist_> ?
[01:45] <Bashmetim> and set /home/vms as its mountpoint
[01:45] <ubuntu_> ah
[01:45] <wars> hi
[01:45] <Bashmetim> I believe that would do the trick.
[01:45] <escott> forbidden404, another way of creating multiline files in shell is to use cat. cat <<EOF > newfilename then the body contents, and finally a line that is just EOF
[01:45] <ubuntu_> alright, i can prolly look that up on my own, that seems like a good way to go about it
[01:45] <ubuntu_> thanks
[01:45] <Bashmetim> np
[01:46] <sacarlson> forbidden404: I'm not sure but \"  might work
[01:46] <chemist_> can someone answer some questions I have about my second monitor not working?
[01:46] <sacarlson> forbidden404: to add " in your echo
[01:46] <NeedHelp> Hello, I have inserted a audio CD and it plays fine. Another program is complaining that /dev/cdrom doesn't exists. How do I fix that ?
[01:46] <Bashmetim> chemist_ is the "Displays" gui not working for you?
[01:47] <chemist_> Bashmetim_ I don't completely understand your question
[01:47] <escott> forbidden404, it would have to be an escaped thing. my point is none of this is necessary. this script should be run via "sudo scriptname.sh" and then 56/57 become cat <<EOF > /etc/init.d/vgabootup.sh    #!/bin/sh     echo 'OFF' >  /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch    EOF
[01:48] <Bashmetim> There's a program that comes with gnome, called Displays. That's how I dork around with second monitors, and it usually works just fine.
[01:48] <Bashmetim> Is it not working for you?
[01:49] <forbidden404> escott, sacarlson, I removed all the sudo's, and \" worked, but I will test cat <<EOF > now, thanks for the help :D
[01:49] <chemist_> I am not sure if I have that
[01:49] <Bashmetim> Search for it under 'settings' or 'system settings' maybe?
[01:49] <escott> forbidden404, but having lots of sudo's in the same script WILL fail eventually. someday the network will be slow, and downloading rhytmbox will take 2 hours, and by the time line 15 completes the sudo session in terminal is marked invalid so 16 sits and waits for a password
[01:50] <Bashmetim> I'm not using gnome right now, else I'd check for you.
[01:50] <chemist_> when I go to system preferences and try to detect the monitor, a box named unknown pops up, but I am not able to select it
[01:50] <escott> forbidden404, so basic rule. never have sudo in a script. sudo is ONLY for interactive usage
[01:51] <Bashmetim> ALSO I am trying to save a 16 year old girl from data loss at the hands of ecryptfs! Can anyone help me out?
[01:51] <wars> hi
[01:51] <escott> Bashmetim, you should tell us what is in the ecryptfs folder
[01:51] <escott> Bashmetim, and ideally what was removed
[01:51] <Church> escott: when i needed redirection to work IIRC i used sudo sh -c "comand | command2 > whatever"
[01:52] <Bashmetim> /home/.ecryptfs/erin/
[01:52] <escott> Church, which is fine for interactive usage. just dont put it in a script
[01:52] <Bashmetim> .Private
[01:52] <chosendescent> Hello Everyone! I was wondering if someone could please help me install webcam?
[01:52] <Bashmetim> No .ecryptfs in there D:
[01:53] <escott> Church, you can also use tee which avoids running command and command2 as root. unpriv | unpriv | sudo tee -a filename so only "tee" runs priviliged
[01:53] <Bashmetim> ls -a /home/erin/.ecryptfs says "too many levels of symbollic links"
[01:53] <forbidden404> escott, I took off sudo already =o Thanks for the tip, now I will give a nice look at cat <<EOF > and then look etckeeper
[01:54] <Bashmetim> There is data in ~/.Private
[01:54] <Bashmetim> Looks like 5 directories, random data.
[01:56] <forbidden404> escott, so I will stock etc using etckeeper in git, as if it was a software, and then I will run it and will "upgrade" my default /etc/?
[01:56] <escott> Bashmetim, sounds like a recursive symlink
[01:56] <Bashmetim> I believe that with her password, there should be a way to unlock this data, I just need some help.
[01:56] <Kornkage4> considering that i cannot increase my 1280x800 resolution in my laptop, can i decrease the size of the menus(not just the side icons) ?
[01:56] <Church> escott: imho you overblow issue a bit. there are many many ways to gain privileges with abusing sudo and in stuff that is run by it by eg. shellescaping. it's just that i usually use sudo for giving some extra permissions instead of root account for some dumb developers that have little skills/clue to abuse it, as in using sudo in role "some security is better then none or all"
[01:56] <jrib> !encrypt | Bashmetim
[01:57] <Church> any security decisions are compromises between actual security and usability. my choice is to not limit usability to anal bofh-ish levels :)
[01:57] <Bashmetim> I have been there, thanks jrib
[01:57] <escott> forbidden404, if you used etckeeper then you could have a patch or branch that you pull changes from. if you are comfortable with git that might be easier
[01:58] <escott> Church, i have no idea what you are talking about. im not talking about any security issue.
[01:58] <Bashmetim> I actually agree with you Church.
[01:58] <escott> Church, im talking about putting an interactive program into a non-interactive script
[01:58] <Bashmetim> She is new at this. She says she only tried to delete that file because she wanted to make extra space on her computer ;_;
[01:58] <jrib> Bashmetim: ok, that site details how to access encrypted homes
[01:59] <Bashmetim> ecryptfs-mount-private
[02:00] <Bashmetim> Returns "Encrypted private directory not set up properly"
[02:00] <forbidden404> escott, I will learn how to use it, thanks for the tips and thanks sacarlson too, see you o/
[02:00] <mefistofeles> hi, is there a way to "restore" /home default permissions? I think a friend of mine screwed things up with /home permissions
[02:00] <escott> oh dear... i just sent someone to climb everest and all he has is a daypack
[02:00] <Bashmetim> Which makes sense becase she deleted /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.ecryptfs
[02:01] <Bashmetim> (Or something)
[02:01] <jrib> mefistofeles: what did your friend do exactly?
[02:01] <dontknow> how can i disable auto copy behavior (highlighting text copies automatically and using middle click paste it)?
[02:01] <mefistofeles> jrib: not sure, and he doesn't know either (kind of new with ubuntu)
[02:01] <jrib> dontknow: why? (that's probably not easy)
[02:01] <jrib> mefistofeles: erm...
[02:01] <mefistofeles> in home Im getting drwxr-x---
[02:01] <dontknow> jrib, it is disturbing
[02:01] <mefistofeles> for the users home dir
[02:01] <escott> mefistofeles, whats wrong with that?
[02:01] <tiox> So I am having these connection problems right? An LG Turbo paired with an AT&T contract. I would like to be able to establish a connection with this device, like I was able to do with no fuss in 11.10, but in 12.04, no such luck.
[02:02] <mefistofeles> escott: that's what I'd like to know haha, he apprently did sudo chmod -R 750 /home
[02:02] <dontknow> jrib, why do you think it is not easy to disable it?
[02:02] <mefistofeles> escott: would that be wrong?
[02:02] <tiox> For people who rely on a 3G modem and haven't upgrade yet, it's the worse thing one can ever so as it seems to break functionality that was present in 11.10. How can I who made the mistake of mindlessly upgrading to 12.04 LTS fix this?
[02:02] <escott> mefistofeles, no that is bad. things will break. ssh for one will not accept a private key that is readable to anyone other than the user
[02:03] <tiox> one can ever do*
[02:03] <sacarlson> mefistofeles: I think my defauts are drwxr-xr-x   but I seem to have changed my most used to drwxrwx---
[02:03] <jrib> dontknow: because I don't know about it :P  But really I would learn to embrace it.  It's a nifty feature and makes copying things much faster than the ctrl-c ctrl-v way.  I guess you could run one of the clipboard daemons and have it keep that clipboard empty all the time as one way to "disable" it
[02:03] <escott> mefistofeles, having home directory being 750 is ok. but having files in there as 750 is not good. not to mention all the files that are marked executable which arent
[02:04] <mefistofeles> escott: but it's 750 so no rwx permissions to others
[02:04] <mefistofeles> escott: I see
[02:04] <escott> mefistofeles, ssh is not going to like the 5. it wants to see 600
[02:05] <tiox> PLus whoever answers it here gets +100 rep; http://askubuntu.com/questions/143989/3g-usb-modem-not-working-in-12-04
[02:05] <mefistofeles> escott: I see... an how to fix that? is there a way?
[02:05] <mefistofeles> I don't even use ubuntu,just helping someone
[02:06] <Bashmetim> ecryptfs-recover-private requires a 32 character passphrase which she never wrote down
[02:06] <nubs_> I'm having a problem with my sound, can anyone help?
[02:06] <escott> mefistofeles, im paranoid about something breaking randomly in the future because permissions are wrong and having to spend hours dealing with it. so i would just create a new user. and then migrate the files over. data files are easy and should pretty much all be 600-644 so nothing really tricky with them
[02:07] <mefistofeles> escott: yaeh, I think that's the best option
[02:07] <jetty> hello
[02:08] <CrashKyle> Hi Guys!
[02:08] <CrashKyle> :D
[02:08] <escott> Bashmetim, there are some examples on dustin kirklands blog where a brute force attempt over a smaller space of passwords can be used to get access to the wrapped passphrase. its not an attack on the full ecryptfs passphrase just the wrapped one
[02:08] <nubs_> I'm having a problem with my sound, can anyone help?
[02:08] <Bashmetim> I won't need a brute force, I have her passphrase.
[02:08] <escott> Bashmetim, then just unwrap the passphrase?
[02:09] <Nighthwk> Can anyone help with Diablo 3 on Ubuntu 12.04. It install correctly and work fine and my system did an update and now it freezer every time on authicating
[02:09] <Bashmetim> That gave me an error, hold on
[02:09] <escott> Bashmetim, unless you dont have the wrapped passphrase anymore
[02:09] <tiox1> nubs_: Stupid temp solution, but if it's through your stereo jack, go into alsamixer and bump up the speaker volume.
[02:09] <tiox1> Yes, it works.
[02:09] <nubs_> My system is showing that I don't even have speakers. I can't adjust the volume, but I have it.
[02:10] <tiox1> I know; I have a stereo system hooked up to my laptop and it refuses to put out sound even when the Headphones volume is maxxed out.
[02:10] <CrashKyle> Someone know any distro linux that use KDE 3.5.X? if not know that works Trinity Desktop Distro?
[02:10] <Bashmetim> stat: too many levels of symlinks
[02:10] <Bashmetim> What a mess.
[02:10] <tiox1> I'm just gonna give up and go back to 11.10 at this point.
[02:10] <CrashKyle> =)
[02:10] <CrashKyle> bad desktop Unity!!!
[02:11] <nubs_> I just want my system to allow me to adjust my volume again D=
[02:11] <Bashmetim> It says it's used with a file, which file?
[02:11] <CrashKyle> Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid forever! :D
[02:11] <Bashmetim> CrashKyle 10.10!
[02:12] <CrashKyle> Guys... some IRC client for terminal????
[02:12] <CrashKyle> Bashmetim GOD!!!
[02:12] <Bashmetim> irssi
[02:12] <CrashKyle> Thanks!
[02:12] <Bashmetim> !
[02:13] <CrashKyle> command to use to call the attention of some user?
[02:13] <nubs_> Can anyone help me so I can adjust my volume again? I have sound, but I can't turn it down.
[02:13] <escott> Bashmetim, are you using ls -H ? or something. im consfused why ls would care about a recursive symlink
[02:13] <CrashKyle> nubs_ ALSAMIXER commands!!
[02:14] <Bashmetim> I have no clue, actually.
[02:14] <nubs_> Can you walk me through that Kyle?
[02:14] <Bashmetim> I've never gotten that complaint before.
[02:14] <escott> Bashmetim, what is the exact ls command you are giving
[02:14] <Bashmetim> ls, cd, ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase
[02:15] <escott> !paste | Bashmetimpaste your session
[02:15] <Bashmetim> ~/.ecryptfs is giving them all grief
[02:15] <Bashmetim> I'm on a seperate computer... Was that wholly unacceptable?
[02:16] <CrashKyle> Nubs_???
[02:16] <CrashKyle> help me!
[02:16] <nubs_> Is it a command line or is it a program?
[02:16] <Bashmetim> CrashKyle read the man pages?
[02:16] <CrashKyle> yes guys
[02:16] <CrashKyle> xCHAT use!!!
[02:17] <Bashmetim> It's a program, controls volume
[02:17] <CrashKyle> GUI software
[02:17] <nubs_> Ohh ok. I'll check it out
[02:17] <d8bhatta> each time when I login into ubuntu, i have to update my /etc/resolv.conf file with nameserver server_ip ,  and  next time when I restart computer, the entry I made is gone now....
[02:17] <CrashKyle> bash!!
[02:17] <CrashKyle> help me?
[02:17] <CrashKyle> how do I draw the attention of some user?
[02:17] <nubs_> That works! Thank you!
[02:17] <CrashKyle> someone command?
[02:18] <escott> !enter | CrashKyle
[02:18] <xangua> d8bhatta: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/setup-static-dns-servers-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ just use gksu instead of sudo if you use gedit or a graphical app
[02:18] <CrashKyle> !enter
[02:18] <CrashKyle> ?
[02:18] <CrashKyle> ok, sorry... i'm noob! :D
[02:18] <Bashmetim> escott has all the answers.
[02:18] <CrashKyle> !escott read me?
[02:19] <sacarlson> CrashKyle: if you type the name of who you want to bring attention too it will highlight it
[02:19] <JoFo> Hello
[02:19] <CrashKyle> have...
[02:19] <palion> using ubuntu 11.04; my entire screen froze on me and i switched into a terminal using ctrl+alt+f1. switching back to the gui with ctrl+alt+f8 results in just a black screen with a cursor (that's movable). is there anything i can do to get back my gui without restarting?
[02:20] <CrashKyle> JoFo hi!
[02:20] <JoFo> Is there anybody who uses UIM on Ubuntu 12.04?
[02:20] <escott> Bashmetim, its going to be hard to figure things out. but i think your symlink problem is because you are running: ls /path/to/something where "something" is a symlink to /path/to/something so its recursive. and by asking ls /path/to/something you are asking it to run through the symlinks. you can do ls /path/to and it should list something -> something
[02:21] <CrashKyle> Hi!
[02:21] <JoFo> Hi!
[02:21] <CrashKyle> someone teaches me to make a user to draw your attention?
[02:21] <sacarlson> JoFo: I don't use it but I think pidgin supports it
[02:22] <Bashmetim> Is ~/.ecryptfs supposed to be a symlink? Something must be broken about that...
[02:22] <sacarlson> CrashKyle: I'm not sure what your goal is
[02:23] <JoFo> sacarlson:  I don’t need Pidgin, but I didn’t succeed to use UIM. I’d need some help.
[02:23] <Bashmetim> Just keep talking, we can all see you...
[02:23] <Bashmetim> o.o
[02:24] <CrashKyle> I read your lines of red, as I do that?
[02:24] <Bashmetim> CrashKyle
[02:24] <Bashmetim> When I say your name
[02:24] <Bashmetim> It highlights it.
[02:24] <x_chr> Howdy. This may be too specific for this channel, but I have an .xlsx file from years ago and can't open it. I think it's password protected. Any advice on getting my data (or a more specific channel)?
[02:25] <escott> Bashmetim, i dont remember the structure or what its supposed to be. there are a couple of variants from a full $HOME encryption where .ecryptfs contains all ciphertext and is loopmounted onto ~. to these .Private folders which contain ciphertext and are mounted onto ~/Private
[02:25] <escott> x_chr, its off topic for this channel. don't know about specific
 i read ok?
[02:25] <escott> !alis | x_chr
[02:25] <CrashKyle> fuck!
[02:25] <xangua> !language | CrashKyle
[02:26] <roasted> I can echo *.jpg | wc in terminal to get a list of how many jpgs I have. The output was this -       1  667593 17063818. I'm confused by the 2 numbers. Do I have 667k or 1.7m?
[02:26] <CrashKyle> Bashmetim read me ok?
[02:26] <x_chr> escott: Ya, I figured. #openoffice.org is dead. I'll keep looking. Thanks
[02:26] <Bashmetim> Well, it's keeping ecryptfs utilities from working, and I need to get my sister's mistakes rectified.
[02:26] <Nighthwk> Is anyone playing diabloe 3 on 12.04?\
[02:26] <Jordan_U> x_chr: What happens when you try to open the file with LibreOffice?
[02:26] <Bashmetim> CrashKyle nice and red.
[02:27] <dj_segfault> roasted: Use wc -l
[02:27] <triplc> Hi all
[02:27] <zykotick9> roasted: try "ls *.jpg | wc -l"
[02:27] <CrashKyle> Bashmetim thanks!
[02:27] <reddit-ftw> (12.04) Having trouble with changing localhost folder. Have the instructions changed since 10.04?
[02:27] <CrashKyle> Bashmetim what distro use?
[02:27] <Bashmetim> I use Arch.
[02:27] <CrashKyle> Good!
[02:27] <Bashmetim> My current issues are on an ubuntu machine though.
[02:27] <CrashKyle> I'm use Backtrack 5 R1
[02:27] <CrashKyle> :D
[02:27] <triplc> Where (repo ?) to get the mysql-cluster for 12.04 ? I saw mysql-cluster for 10.xx 11,xx, but not for 12.04
[02:27] <x_chr> Jordan_U: I have to choose a format. Nothing results in anything other than an empty spreadsheet or "General input/output error."
[02:28] <Bashmetim> O.O
[02:28] <Bashmetim> Backtrack users...
[02:28] <Bashmetim> leet hackers up in here!
[02:28] <roasted> zykotick9, argument list toolong. dang.
[02:28] <roasted> zykotick9, I think I have too many things in a single folder. :(
[02:28] <CrashKyle> Bashmetim no!!!
[02:29] <CrashKyle> Bashmetim i'm not a hacker
[02:29] <CrashKyle> i'm a security profesional
[02:29] <triplc> Where (repo ?) to get the mysql-cluster for 12.04 ? I saw mysql-cluster for 10.xx 11,xx, but not for 12.04 (repost)
[02:29] <CrashKyle> :D
[02:29] <Jordan_U> x_chr: If it's not encrypted and there was human readable text in it then "strings /path/to/file | less" in a terminal should present you with some text, if not then that's a good sign that it *is* encrypted somehow.
[02:29] <zykotick9> roasted: something for xarg - sorry don't know the details...
[02:29] <CrashKyle> Bashmetim only use backtrack for crack WEP Wireless key! =D
[02:29] <zykotick9> s/xarg/xargs/
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[02:30] <escott> roasted, ls | grep *.jpg | wc
[02:30] <CrashKyle> and theese?
[02:31] <escott> roasted, and thats 667593 files
[02:31] <escott> roasted, the 1.7mil is the number of characters in all filenames foo.jpg is 7 characters
[02:31] <x_chr> Jordan_U: I get gbberish, but at least it's ascii chars. Well, mostly gibberish, thought I do see 'Sheet1', 'Worksheets', 'Microsoft Macintosh Excel', and my name.
[02:31] <roasted> escott, ah gotcha. thanks!
[02:32] <CrashKyle> Macintosh is very private OS! =$ puaj!
[02:32] <Jordan_U> x_chr: It's ASCII chars because "strings" is a command which basically filters out everything which doesn't look like a string.
[02:32] <x_chr> Jordan_U: yep :) I realized that as soon as I wrote that.
[02:33] <CrashKyle> because in Ubuntu 12.04 is the command used to compile GCC on Ubuntu and 10.04 g + +?
[02:33] <xangua> !ot | CrashKyle
[02:35] <personwithbooks> i think that ubuntu is officially now my favorite linux distro! :)
[02:36] <reisio> personwithbooks: out of which ones that you've tried?
[02:36] <reisio> besides Windows Vista
[02:36] <Bashmetim> Mein gott...
[02:36] <personwithbooks> i tried the mac os x one the solaris one and the freebsd one.
[02:36] <Bashmetim> Don't even window$ers hate vista?
[02:37] <zykotick9> personwithbooks: those are all unix :p
[02:37] <Bashmetim> None of those use the linux kernel....
[02:37] <personwithbooks> ur right, i should probably change my ctcp version :)
[02:37] <sirriffsalot> Are themes restricted in use to the desktop environment in use? Or can for instance a gnome desktop environment be used in XFCE?:P
[02:37] <zykotick9> personwithbooks: well, bsd technically
[02:37] <personwithbooks> 2012 is finally the year of desktop linux!
[02:37] <xangua> sirriffsalot: you can use gkt themese on both
[02:37] <Bashmetim> sirriffsalot no... You can't use one DE inside another DE
[02:38] <digitalj> lol yeah right
[02:38] <xangua> gtk themes* sirriffsalot
[02:38] <sirriffsalot> xangua: mind explaining the difference?:)
[02:38] <zykotick9> 2011/2012 the year of the linux phone, maybe.
[02:38] <sirriffsalot> Bashmetim: wasn't the question;D
[02:39] <digitalj> 2012 is the year of the last
[02:39] <Bashmetim> "Or can for instance a gnome desktop environment be used in XFCE?:P" A GTK theme is a way of controlling the appearance of GTK applications, and
[02:39] <sirriffsalot> digitalj: 10 E says you're wrong;D
[02:39] <digitalj> lol
[02:39] <Bashmetim> a Desktop environment is a Desktop environment
[02:39] <Kornkage4> soon it will be the linux year !
[02:39] <xangua> sirriffsalot: that both gnome and xfce use gtk; pretty much the icon themes also...never had any problems with gnome-look.org icons or themes on xfce
[02:39] <digitalj> but its fun to pretend
[02:39] <Bashmetim> Kornkage get geeks to stop playing video games and linux will go big.
[02:40] <sirriffsalot> xangua: cool, will try it! Any comments on Conky?
[02:40] <digitalj> linux needs a consolidated marketing platform
[02:40] <NeedHelp> Hello, I have inserted a audio CD and it plays fine. Another program is complaining that /dev/cdrom doesn't exists. How do I fix that ?
[02:40] <personwithbooks> linux will never go big because the desktop computer is dead
[02:40] <xangua> sirriffsalot: Conky Colors is one of the easiest setups you can find, also on gnome-look.org
[02:40] <Bashmetim> Marketing for free software?
[02:40] <digitalj> and more driver support
[02:40] <Bashmetim> Lol
[02:40] <xangua> !ot | personwithbooks Bashmetim
[02:40] <Bashmetim> the desktop computer is dead?
[02:40] <sirriffsalot> xangua: are we talking about the same thing? Conky is as far as I know a system monitor tool?
[02:41] <Kornkage4> Bashmetim if valve gets linux support for the big titles, i'm sure linux will start to become more used over time
[02:41] <xangua> sirriffsalot: and conky colors is a collection of conky scripts easy to configure
[02:41] <zykotick9> personwithbooks: it's ms not gnu/linux that has to worry about the "death of the pc" - gnu/linux is huge server/workstation so has nothing to fear ;)
[02:41] <Bashmetim> Right. Support.
[02:41] <sirriffsalot> xangua: aah, I see. Will check that out too
[02:41] <sirriffsalot> xangua: cheers!
[02:41] <rhizmoe> how can i control what apps are controlled by my keyboard's multimedia keys?
[02:42] <Bashmetim> Do I tell my sister she's fucked and just set up a new user for her?
[02:42] <xangua> !language | Bashmetim
[02:42] <Bashmetim> Or can I unlock ecryptfs even though the directory is broken.
[02:42] <Bashmetim> ?
[02:42] <Bashmetim> Sorry, not used to language being a problem in IRC... I'll watch it.
[02:44] <digitalj> So hard for me not to swear now lol....
[02:44] <escott> Bashmetim, two things i would do. (a) create a new user with an encrypted home and see what it is supposed to look like. (b) check out dustin kirklands blog. lots of good stuff on that
[02:45] <CrashKyle> I'm Use   a i r c r a c k - n g    software :D and i have free iNet
[02:45] <digitalj> CrashKyle: Good for you
[02:45] <Bashmetim> http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/ this guy?
[02:45] <PhantomPhreak53> When I open a home folder in Unity, it lists Music, Videos, ... How do I add/remove some of those from that list?
[02:45] <escott> Bashmetim, yes
[02:45] <Bashmetim> cool.
[02:46] <Madpilot> PhantomPhreak53, far as I know, you can delete or rename any of the "standard" directories
[02:46] <Bashmetim> I'll go away and come back if I'm in an emergency situation that needs personal help...
[02:46] <xangua> PhantomPhreak53: you mean from nautilus sidebar¿ just drag them
[02:48] <PhantomPhreak53> Madpilot: yeah I renamed a folder from Music to Music2 to test something then deleted Music2. Now Music2 still shows there and I tried renaming my folder to music2 then renaming it and its stuck at Music2
[02:48] <PhantomPhreak53> xangua: just tried
[02:49] <xangua> PhantomPhreak53: ooh sorry, just go to Bookmarks menu and you can edit them, remove, add any directory you want
[02:49] <PhantomPhreak53> xangua: you are the man! I didn't even see that option!
[02:50] <PhantomPhreak53> thanks
[02:52] <PhantomPhreak53> oh wait maybe not
[02:52] <PhantomPhreak53> haha
[02:52] <PhantomPhreak53> It doesn't even list music2 and I can't seem to add any
[02:52] <ironfoot495> Hello can someone help me install zend studio on ubuntu 10.04.3???
[02:52] <fellayaboy> im curious to know the command ... touch 'date +%F'.file  ..will not 12-06-06.file instead it'll date +%F.file
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> !find zzend
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> !find zend
[02:53] <fellayaboy> im viewing an old tutorial with bash 2.something
[02:53] <ironfoot495> can Zend  Studio be installed on ubuntu??
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> fellayaboy:  got the  quotes wrong is my guess
[02:54] <gary_> Hello
[02:54] <fellayaboy> what do u mean dr willis
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> fellayaboy:  web sites often mess up ' " and  the  backtick
[02:54] <fellayaboy> ooh
[02:54] <Jordan_U> fellayaboy: ` != '
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> i think in  your case you want "   not '
[02:54] <fellayaboy> ooh im using ' not `
[02:54] <CoJaBo> ``lol''
[02:54] <fellayaboy> that was my error
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> backtick is special...
[02:55] <fellayaboy> thanks dr willis.
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> $(command) is easier to read then using backticks also
[02:55] <fellayaboy> wow didnt even know that backtick was allthe way over there in the keyboard...wooow..im crazy
[02:55] <fellayaboy> i tried that but didnt work
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> i cant even  do  a backtickhefre.. this android keybord isent wwending them to my irc client
[02:56] <fellayaboy> ok thanks for the help..cleared up much confusion
[02:56] <fellayaboy> ha lol
[02:56] <fellayaboy> nice
[02:56] <CoJaBo> Fun Fact: You cannot type ` on an iPhone :P
[02:56] <jrp> are the chat logs for this channel available in plain text anywhere?
[02:56] <CAPITALISMUS> its allways the ussuall suspects
[02:56] <fellayaboy> so cool u can use ur phone
[02:56] <Dr_Willis>  $(command) should  be same as backtick command backtick
[02:56] <fellayaboy> im sshed right now into a remote pc using the commandline program irc...so cool..
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> ii cant send a tilda either
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> usinf android phone, ssh, then  wee chat here
[02:57] <fellayaboy> i tried touch ${date +%F).file and didnt do as expected...
[02:57] <hilo> hello! I am about to initiate a reformat of my storage array since I recently switched to Ubuntu based from Windows, and the filesystem is still NTFS. Could anyone ring in on what filesystem would be best and what factors I should take into account when choosing?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> not {}   but ()
[02:57] <fellayaboy> never mind
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> details man....
[02:57] <fellayaboy> it did
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[02:57] <fellayaboy> im making too many typos lol
[02:58] <fellayaboy> gotta put on the glasses
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> bigger fonts
[02:58] <fellayaboy> like working with microbiology..
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> 40 in monitor with 30+ size fonts
[02:58] <fellayaboy> wheres that microscope..lol thanks dr willis..
[02:58] <fellayaboy> wow thats one big tv
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> got a 40 in tv now as my pc monitor. ;)
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> then i use my little phone all day at work..  big  differance
[02:59] <fellayaboy> lol
[02:59] <fellayaboy> cool i use to use my android alot for irc
[02:59] <fellayaboy> its awesome
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> amazing how well ubuntu and X/linux handles these monitors. not as many issues as i  recall in  the  past
[03:00] <fellayaboy> i just stopped cuz those dang touch screen keypads make me typo too much
[03:00] <fellayaboy> yeah ubuntu is awesome
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> bluetooth keybords are  resonable priced if you can find hem on sale. ;)
[03:00] <fellayaboy> havent been using windows for a loong long time..years
[03:01] <fellayaboy> oh thats true..u could use a keyboard for the android huh
[03:01] <fellayaboy> very smart
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> i  have a BT keybord+touhpad thats the  size of my phone.
[03:02] <fellayaboy> pretty soon your phone will be a portable pc where all u need is to connect a monitor and keyboard...and the cpu will be ur phone with ram etc
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> and a full  sized tablet  keyboard that works
[03:02] <fellayaboy> you have a link to that device dr willis
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> fellayaboy:  allready been done. :) nist not common
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> fellayaboy:   got  it off amazon  for $20
[03:02] <fellayaboy> niice
[03:02] <fellayaboy> i desperately need one cuz im horrible with touchscreen typing
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> found $80 Motrolala keybords on blearance for $13 at staples last month.  bouight 3
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> clearanc
[03:03] <fellayaboy> wow good deal
[03:03] <fellayaboy> clearance ;)
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> now i need a good   ssh client to use on  android
[03:03] <fellayaboy> connectbot is awesome
[03:03] <fellayaboy> i use it alot
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> its what i have now.. it has issues
[03:04] <fellayaboy> it works really well
[03:04] <Ceres> Hi.
[03:04] <fellayaboy> oooooh
[03:04] <fellayaboy> hmm
[03:04] <sacarlson> Dr_Willis: I have an ssh client on android, I'll have to get you the name
[03:04] <fellayaboy> what problems
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> no tilda or backtick key for one.
[03:04] <fellayaboy> oh u have to change your keyboard
[03:04] <Ceres> I'm looking for some help. My internet connection stopped working after installed updates and then rebooted.
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> im using a real physical  keyboard.  ;)
[03:04] <Ceres> I've looked online for fixes, but can't find a solution.
[03:04] <fellayaboy> download and install hackers keyboard on the google play market
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> fellayaboy:  allready have.
[03:05] <fellayaboy> ooh so it doesnt support it at all then i guess
[03:05] <fellayaboy> id have to look into that
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> its annoying when the software keyboard you use affects your real  one
[03:05] <sacarlson> Dr_Willis: I've got my android phone also working as the remote control for vlc that is cool,  it's now a tv too
[03:05] <meneedshelp> if I have a text file that is 4 columns c1:c2:c3:c4 and I want to extract printing the lines where c3 is less than or equal to 4 what would be the code for that
[03:06] <fellayaboy> that app makes it easy sacarison i know what ur talking about ..it works flawlessly almost
[03:06] <escott> meneedshelp, gawk -F:
[03:07] <fellayaboy> good night dudes...dr willis thanks again for your help..
[03:07] <escott> meneedshelp, gawk -F: '{ if $3 <= $4 then $0 }' roughly you'll have to lookup gawks if and test operators. its roughly C syntax
[03:07] <fellayaboy> really appreciate it..helped me out tons
[03:07] <sacarlson> meneedshelp: I would write it in ruby
[03:07] <edbian> I bought a IDE -> usb adaptor and I can't mount this hdd with it :(  output of dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1027957/
[03:07] <meneedshelp> thank you
[03:08] <edbian> what is mmcblk0   ??
[03:09] <Ceres> Does anyone have a good idea of where I should ask or look?
[03:09] <escott> edbian, ssd, mmc, mini-sd etc
[03:10] <sacarlson> edbian: I've had similar problem with a usb to ide for laptop disk,  I think the disk doesn't get enuf power off usb to power it
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  mccblk is normally a internal sd card slot on a laptop. not a usb hd.
[03:10] <escott> edbian, www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/faq/general.html
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  chek output of 'sudo blkid' to see what device the drive is
[03:10] <sacarlson> edbian: I used old laptop disk that probly take more power then newer ones
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> I have a universial usb-:ide/sata/laptop ide. - it has its own power supply
[03:11] <edbian> Dr_Willis, not showing up in blkid output
[03:11] <edbian> sacarlson, It is very old and it is relying on USB power
[03:11] <sacarlson> Dr_Willis: ya that's what I think I should try a separate power supply like that
[03:11] <edbian> escott, reading...
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> i would guess its power. but  i  recall dmesg pringint out messages befor about  lack of power.
[03:12] <Fidelix> Did anyone have problems with the bind9 update?
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> that univerial usb adaptor has been so handy. best $20 i spent. ;P
[03:12] <th0r> edbian: you might try running it through a four port hub that has an external power supply
[03:12] <edbian> th0r, I don't have that!
[03:12] <edbian> stupid old hdd's
[03:12] <sacarlson> Dr_Willis: edbian: but I thought it would be cool if that small box would just plug into a laptop or ?? and instant have 50gb
[03:13] <edbian> It did basically the same thing on my debian desktop (actually connected to a netbook right now)
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> ive also seen hd-usb cords tht plug into 2 usb ports for moar powar
[03:13] <edbian> sacarlson, ... what?
[03:13] <edbian> Dr_Willis, MOAR POWER
[03:13] <sacarlson> edbian: ya I think they need more power,  maybe just a usb hub with it's own power might help
[03:14] <edbian> sacarlson, stupid everything
[03:14] <edbian> I'm gonna try a regular 3.5" IDE hdd
[03:14] <edbian> (so that I can plug in a molex)
[03:14] <edbian> make sure it's not the adapter or the host machine or something
[03:15] <sacarlson> edbian: I know the laptop disk was good I got an adapter to plug it into a normal ide plug and it worked, so it's the usb to ide on my side that's bad
[03:16] <edbian> sacarlson, good to know
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> you are going usb to a big ide to laptop ide
[03:17] <holmescn> Execuse me everyone, I have a Q, and I have google for a long time. But I don't get the A. Two of my PC have different SSH versions, so I cannot connect them by public key. Is there some solution?
[03:17] <edbian> Dr_Willis, what?
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> a big ide to laptop ide. does not passthrough power does it
[03:18] <escott> holmescn, that should not be the case unless one is buggy
[03:18] <sacarlson> Dr_Willis: who me?  no there are connector adapters that plug direct to your ide inside a normal pc
[03:18] <PhantomPhreak53> When I open a home folder in Unity, it lists Music, Videos, ... How do I add/remove some of those from that list? The ones listed under Computer. I have a folder listed there that doesn't exist
[03:18] <edbian> Dr_Willis, I'm not sure what you're asking.  I'm going to try using a regular 3.5" IDE drive with this IDE -> USB adaptor because I can plug in the molex
[03:19] <sacarlson> Dr_Willis: those small ide for laptops to standard big ide to plug a laptop hd into a standard pc
[03:19] <holmescn> escott: I hope so, but when I see ssh -v, it said "we send a public key wait for reply."
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> my usb hd adaptor has 3 ports. sata. big ide. and laptop ide
[03:19] <_schism_> does anyone in here happen to know much about virtualbox?
[03:19] <NoVoteLoss> hey anyone know anythign about the new ivy processors coming out
[03:19] <NoVoteLoss> i think ivy is the nam
[03:19] <NoVoteLoss> e
[03:19] <edbian> Dr_Willis, my usb hd adaptor is the same
[03:19] <sacarlson> Dr_Willis: ya and it's about 4lb instead of 4 oz
[03:19] <escott> holmescn, what are the versions
[03:19] <NoVoteLoss> dates etc
[03:20] <escott> NoVoteLoss, released. check wikipedia for model numbers
[03:20] <NoVoteLoss> thanks escott!
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> !vbox
[03:21] <holmescn> escott: On my laptop, OpenSSH is 5.9; on the server it is 4.3.
[03:21] <escott> holmescn, both ubuntu
[03:21] <_schism_> Dr_Willis, yeah I have an issue that google cant point me to an answer to
[03:21] <sacarlson> _schism_: I use virtualbox alot it's cool
[03:21] <tjayh913> I was looking up how to change how quickly GRUB automatically boots the first option, and found instructions to use /boot/grub/menu.lst but it appears it no longer exists? Is there a new file to use?
[03:21] <holmescn> the laptop is, the server is redhat
[03:22] <_schism_> sacarlson, yeah I do as well unfortunatly it started closing as soon as it opens and I cant figgure out why
[03:22] <sacarlson> _schism_: did you look in /var/log/syslog ?
[03:22] <holmescn> tjayh913: /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:23] <sacarlson> _schism_: my guess is you upgraded and failed to compile the needed drivers or you change kernel and the same
[03:23] <edbian> how old would you expect a HDD to be such that it would require more power than USB provides
[03:23] <edbian> ??
[03:24] <_schism_> sacarlson, it was doing it on the old version and I upgraded to the new one and it does the same thing and I have uninstalled it and reinstalled it numerous times
[03:24] <escott> holmescn, could be the redhat ssh bug. there was an old version of redhat that did the protocol wrong and would hang up on debian. could also just be the sshd_config in redhat which is more locked down
[03:24] <SolarisBoy> sacarlson: you should check out vagrant for vbox its yummy
[03:24] <sacarlson> _schism_: do you use the one direct from orical?
[03:24] <allquixotic> Thought it would be worth mentioning that Ubuntu 12.04 installs and boots properly on a pure UEFI system (Ivy Bridge motherboard and CPU) in a dual-boot configuration with Windows 7-UEFI, whereas Fedora 17 fails to boot in the same scenario. Nice job on UEFI for Ubuntu 12.04 relative to your friendly competition from RHEL. Signed, a satisfied user/developer
[03:25] <sacarlson> SolarisBoy: what's better about vbox over virtualbox?
[03:25] <edbian> Dr_Willis, do new 2.5" HDDS require more power than a USB port provides?
[03:25] <NoVoteLoss> escott, reccomend anywhere i can look for linux support and the new processors?
[03:25] <holmescn> escott: but my VPS which is running ubuntu 10.04 meet the same problem
[03:25] <_schism_> sacarlson, I think so it downloaded a .deb from within vbox
[03:25] <tjayh913> Would "GRUB_TIMEOUT=10" in /etc/default/grub be the number of seconds it waits for an input?
[03:26] <SolarisBoy> sacarlson: virtualbox == vbox , i was talking about vagrant though. It's a tool for spinning and autoconfigure vm's in vbox/virtualbox
[03:26] <sacarlson> _schism_: well check the logs to get an idea what is wrong
[03:26] <tjayh913> oh now I notice a comment on how to get instructions on the file
[03:26] <_schism_> sacarlson, yeah trying to figgure out which one it is now
[03:27] <escott> NoVoteLoss, ivy engineering samples were given early enough that 12.04 should be supported
[03:27] <SolarisBoy> tjayh913: i believe it is the amount of time it will wait for you to select an option before it loads the default kernel
[03:27] <Jordan_U> tjayh913: Yes (while displaying the menu). Note that Ubuntu's grub overrides this and hides the menu with no timeout if Ubuntu is detected to be the only OS.
[03:27] <SolarisBoy> that too
[03:27] <escott> holmescn, it would have to be a really old RHEL. i remember reading about this like 8 years ago
[03:28] <sacarlson> SolarisBoy: I'm not sure what spinning and autoconfigure is,  but I have seen that you can now boot real hard disk partitions now
[03:28] <NoVoteLoss> escott if i could give you a dollar i would. thanks a lot!
[03:28] <sacarlson> SolarisBoy: I guess it's just a mater of time before they can also use the gpu to accelarate graphics
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> booting and accessing a 'real' partition directly in vbox. can be risky from what i read in their docs
[03:28] <SolarisBoy> that would be nice
[03:29] <tjayh913> holmescn, SolarisBoy, Jordan_U, thank you for your help
[03:29] <SolarisBoy> sure tjayh913
[03:29] <Jordan_U> tjayh913: You're welcome.
[03:29] <SolarisBoy> sacarlson: http://vagrantup.com/
[03:29] <escott> holmescn, you may want to try ssh -vv or -vvv to get more details
[03:29] <holmescn> tjayh913: you're welcome.
[03:29] <holmescn> escott: ok
[03:30] <holmescn> escott: the redhat is not that old.
[03:30] <_schism_> sacarlson, any idea what the in use thingie in here means?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1027972/
[03:30] <escott> Dr_Willis, i think the main concern is simultaneous access from host and guest
[03:30] <allquixotic> escott, NoVoteLoss: I'm currently running Ubuntu 12.04 with no patches / custom hacks on an Ivy Bridge "Z77" motherboard with a Core i7 3770K processor, and also using the integrated Intel HD Graphics 4000 on the CPU, and it's all so wonderful that I've never in 15 years of using Linux seen anything as seamless and tidy and stable as this.
[03:30] <allquixotic> It even installed to UEFI on the same hard drive as Windows with no issues dual booting into either OS as I please
[03:30] <holmescn> escott: actually it is scienticfic linux 5.5 which is based on redhat 5.5.
[03:30] <SolarisBoy> _schism_: it means the object is locked in vbox
[03:30] <allquixotic> Never has a system worked so well out of the box
[03:31] <NoVoteLoss> allquixotic where did you get your processor?
[03:31] <_schism_> SolarisBoy, okie dokie off to google to see how to fix it
[03:31] <allquixotic> NoVoteLoss: I ordered it off of Amazon.
[03:31] <SolarisBoy> _schism_: what are you actually doing when that occurs?
[03:31] <allquixotic> Ivy Bridge desktop hardware components have been for sale in major electronics retail channels for several weeks in the US and Europe at least
[03:31] <allquixotic> laptops are a few weeks behind and JUST starting to show up this week
[03:31] <phillip69> hello
[03:31] <_schism_> SolarisBoy, click the icon to load vbox it starts I can see the selection screen then it closes
[03:32] <SolarisBoy> _schism_: it looks like you have a stale vdi
[03:32] <phillip69> I am new at this
[03:32] <escott> holmescn, try with -vv and -vvv. goodluck
[03:32] <SolarisBoy> or a possible unclean shutdown which left some type of lock
[03:32] <_schism_> SolarisBoy, stale as in bad?  and should I just delete it to make it go away?
[03:32] <holmescn> escott: I give ssh so many vvvvvv, and I got the same msg.
[03:32] <SolarisBoy> you can edit the xml and remove the stale resource
[03:33] <SolarisBoy> but you have to make sure that there is no instance of vbox running or it will overwrite it due to lack of saving the change
[03:33] <SolarisBoy> _schism_: even if you delete it it's still in the xml
[03:33] <_schism_> SolarisBoy, will the config file be in the .Virtualbox dir or the data dir?
[03:34] <_schism_> SolarisBoy, think I found it
[03:34] <scientes> unity crashes, now do i restart it?
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> unity --replace     i belive
[03:34] <SolarisBoy> _schism_: 'cannot be closed because it is still attached to 1 virtual machines' the lines that say that are the crux of the issue
[03:34] <scientes> Dr_Willis, unity-2d-shell: [CRITICAL] Another instance of the Shell already exists. Quitting.
[03:34] <sacarlson> _schism_: oh ya and in the future run vitualbox in a term to see errors also
[03:34] <SolarisBoy> those resources are the problematic ones, or technically the VM(s) which attempt to mount them
[03:34] <scientes> even with --replace
[03:35] <SolarisBoy> _schism_: you may be able to delete them with vboxmanage command
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> scientes:  you re using unity 2d then?
[03:35] <scientes> Dr_Willis, yes
[03:35] <scientes> 3d will break things more
[03:35] <SolarisBoy> _schism_: another thing you can check is if there is some stale vbox process lingering
[03:35] <mrguser> hiii
[03:35] <_schism_> SolarisBoy, is it the arch vm causing it?
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> then you wnt unity2d --replace perhps?
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> i dont use unity 2d
[03:35] <SolarisBoy> i am not sure it references the uuid of the vm
[03:35] <NoVoteLoss> allquixotic i know you already raved about it, but you think the ivy's are worth it?
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[03:35] <_schism_> SolarisBoy, would a process linger after a cold boot?
[03:35] <mrguser> Hello is there ny1
[03:36] <SolarisBoy> _schism_: nope
[03:36] <SolarisBoy> _schism_: but lock files and pid files would
[03:36] <_schism_> then dont think that could be it
[03:36] <SolarisBoy> _schism_: and some programs don't deal with that well
[03:36] <mrguser> http://rapidshare.com/files/160460841/01.R.O.By.Im2good.avi
[03:36] <_schism_> ugh this is getting above me.  would that last over a remove and reinstall?
[03:36] <SolarisBoy> in some senses it makes the program think a stale process persisted a reboot when it obviously can't .. but said prgram does not know that
[03:37] <SolarisBoy> _schism_: thats not needed
[03:37] <SolarisBoy> _schism_: look at the two things i told you, vboxmanage, and the XML file that vbox uses to define resources
[03:37] <allquixotic> NoVoteLoss: If you have a Sandy Bridge system already, I don't think an Ivy Bridge system is that big of an upgrade. It's a very large upgrade for the integrated graphics processor, but the CPU performance is either the same or very slightly better.
[03:37] <_schism_> SolarisBoy, I had allready done that before I came in here bugging you guys
[03:37] <SolarisBoy> _schism_: you probably didn't remove the dependant resources then
[03:37] <allquixotic> NoVoteLoss: If you have anything older than a Sandy Bridge, then Ivy Bridge is a VERY nice upgrade. Even for something recent-ish like Nehalem
[03:37] <SolarisBoy> meaning the VM as well
[03:37] <SolarisBoy> if the VM is still attaching objects you removed... then naturally..
[03:38] <SolarisBoy> another thing you can _try_ is mv the xml elsewhere
[03:38] <New0> hi everyone. i just install xampp. and i can't select a workspace for eclispse on /opt/lampp/htdocs and i tried symbole link to ~user/home/www but can't access it. any idea?
[03:39] <SolarisBoy> im no too sure what that will do though - i assume vbox would try to write a clean one with no vm's,, where you can then just import the stuff one by one
[03:39] <SolarisBoy> _schism_: when you list your vm's do the uuid's look familiar to those in the errors?
[03:39] <_schism_> SolarisBoy, nope moving the xml didnt work
[03:40] <tjayh913> Also, how do I get the file address/where would I find in the directories a program like text edit (need to run it with sudo)
[03:41] <SolarisBoy> there is another file also - VirtualBox.xml-prev
[03:41] <SolarisBoy> be sure your changes aren't over written..
[03:42] <sacarlson> New0: I don't see xampp in the standard ubuntu distribution,  you might want to stick with the what the dist already has setup
[03:42] <sixdahs_> tjayh913: sudo vi?
[03:42] <sixdahs_> tjayh913: or you just want to know where a program is located?
[03:42] <sacarlson> !lamp new0
[03:42] <New0> !lampp new0
[03:43] <New0> !xampp new0
[03:43] <bazhang> New0, xampp is not supported here. use lamp
[03:43] <bazhang> !lamp | New0
[03:43] <New0> well my Q is about ln command
[03:43] <New0> and how can i access it?
[03:44] <Rthomso5> Hi, anybody able to help me with an issue involving sguil0.7 and squert0.9.2
[03:44] <Coyote> If my hardware has no graphical issues with one version of Linux, should it work with all other distributions, as well?
[03:44] <bazhang> New0, you're trying to get xampp support, it's not supported here
[03:45] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: yes but what distros were you thinking?
[03:45] <New0> i am trying to get support on "Symbolic Links" unless you don't support this subject here
[03:45] <sacarlson> New0: you problem with ln sound like a security problem try sudo ln
[03:45] <bazhang> New0, thats not ubuntu specific
[03:45] <New0> ok tnx
[03:46] <Coyote> Mysteriousdarren: Well, I can boot up Debian just fine, but my laptop has previously had trouble with Ubuntu.
[03:46] <Coyote> Mysteriousdarren: And I'm looking at trying to install it again.
[03:47] <Rthomso5> Help with a sguil squirt issue on Ubuntu server
[03:47] <bazhang> Rthomso5, try #ubuntu-server
[03:48] <Coyote> Mysteriousdarren: I had suspicions that my previous iso was improperly burned.
[03:48] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: What problems? just specifically graphics? Its usually just drivers and those are easier to do now.
[03:49] <sacarlson> Coyote: you might try a usb flash or if you already have debian installed with grub2 maybe just try add a grub2 boot direct an iso
[03:49] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: I kept getting black screen with Ubuntu. I could hear but not see it. Anyway, out of a continued desire to try Linux, I burned a bootable USB drive of Debian, and it works just fine.
[03:49] <NoVoteLoss> allquixotic im coming from years of mac, and never completely customizing my PC, im building a computer this summer and have been waiting to see whatsup with these ivy's and also the linux side of them. so, i think im going to get one
[03:49] <bazhang> !ot | NoVoteLoss
[03:50] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: how did u try installing? usb? and what distro? regular ubuntu?
[03:50] <NoVoteLoss> bazhang i know! i use ubuntu as my main OS now and i want to get an Ivy processor! lol
[03:51] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: I tried 32 and 64-bit versions of Ubuntu through Wubi, CDs, and USB.
[03:51] <bazhang> NoVoteLoss, this is not the chat channel ;#ubuntu-offtopic for that
[03:51] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: This was back in February, I believe, so whatever distro that was.
[03:52] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: did u try the alternative install?
[03:52] <drewbert> I have two nvidia gt 430's configured to use nouveua, but I'm having a bit of trouble getting windows to drag between the two screens
[03:52] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: Alternative install?
[03:52] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: I had trouble with all of those and the alternative did me through
[03:52] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: Are you also running a Toshiba Satellite 'top?
[03:53] <New0> ok i did sudo -s and enter root and ln /folder/source ~/dest but still can't touch the permission. why?
[03:53] <ssfdre38> is there a wiki page to get a custom service started at startup
[03:54] <New0> the permission of the /dest_folder
[03:54] <tjayh913> sixdahs_, I don't really understand how to use vi, and would rather work in text edit, but I need to run it with sudo
[03:54] <bazhang> New0, for xampp?
[03:54] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: http://mirrors.melbourne.co.uk/ubuntu-releases/12.04/
[03:55] <New0> bazhang, yes. but how it's got to do with it? does the folder permission of xampp maybe have something to do with it? or it's just Symbolic Links
[03:55] <sacarlson> New0: it could be that the directory is located in on a disk with read only access
[03:55] <osvin> Hi, somobody use evolution mail client with exchange 2010?
[03:55] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: Now, someone else already pointed me to a driver that they say should fix the problem, and I'm downloading the latest release before I try that, but if drivers are really the same for all distros, then that can't be the problem.
[03:55] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: I have an old dell inspiron 700m along with several newer dells( less than a year old). They all needed to be installed like that.
[03:55] <sacarlson> New0: I should say the disk may be mounted read only
[03:55] <New0> sacarlson, ok tnx i will check that
[03:55] <bazhang> New0, You are asking for support of xampp here. it's not supported. please stop asking for support
[03:55] <bazhang> !xampp | New0
[03:56] <CAPITALISMUS> 007 uses ubuntu
[03:56] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: so its for sure a driver? the install worked correct?
[03:56] <bazhang> CAPITALISMUS, and?
[03:56] <CAPITALISMUS> so ubuntu is spygrade linux
[03:56] <New0> bazhang, ok i will stop asking if it's wrong here. maybe i dunno much about linux and permission or i dunno. sorry i asked
[03:56] <sacarlson> bazhang: I don't think failure to create a link should be connected to xampp,  people need to learn stuf
[03:56] <bazhang> CAPITALISMUS, got an actual support question?
[03:57] <CAPITALISMUS> i beg your pardon?
[03:57] <drewbert> It's an randr issue, I hear, but xrandr will only detect the display i run it from
[03:57] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: That's what I'm trying to figure out; because if all drivers are the same across the board for Linux, and I can boot up Debian (also remembered that I booted up a six-year old distro of Knoppix), then the driver cannot be the problem.
[03:57] <drewbert> so I don't understand how to join the two displays
[03:57] <bazhang> !permissions | New0 have a read
[03:57] <Ceres_3> I've got a problem: Should I wait to ask it, or is now fine?
[03:57] <bazhang> CAPITALISMUS, this is ubuntu support only. chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[03:57] <New0> sacarlson, and yes you right. tnx for mention that.
[03:58] <New0> bazhang, tnx :)
[03:58] <tjayh913> sixdahs_, nevermind, I found a way to get it by dragging and dropping icon
[03:58] <bazhang> Ceres_3, ask, if someone knows , they will answer
[03:58] <neo1691> i, i have installed compiz-settings-manager but whatever changes i do it never gets implemented actually
[03:58] <New0> bazhang, wow tnx man :) i am looking for this kind of info long time. (just back to use ubuntu again)
[03:58] <Ceres_3> I just installed updates on my ubuntu box, rebooted, and now networking doesn't work.
[03:58] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: Also, can I do a LiveInstall with the alternate install? (As in, boot it up and try it out before actually installing).
[03:59] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: no its for for a non graphical install, sorry.
[03:59] <Ceres_3> I've been searching online, but can't find any info. I'm new to Linux, and this is driving me crazy.
[04:00] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: Ah. Because, honestly, I have yet to actually get to use Ubuntu. Kinda wanted to try it out a bit before repartitioning my drive.
[04:00] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: can you elaborate on your network how it was configured and what you expect to occur? did you check the current settings on the nic(s)?
[04:00] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: I think I'll try the driver fix that the other guy recommended, and if that doesn't work, I'll check out this alternate install.
[04:01] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: did any of the live cds work for you?
[04:01] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: for trying it out?
[04:01] <drewbert> the mouse moves across 'em fine
[04:01] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: Nope. I could hear every one of them booting, but no video.
[04:01] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: well I always had that trouble and did the alternate.
[04:01] <Ceres_3> Okay. I have my box wired directly to the router. It was connecting to the internet before rebooting, now it can't even ping the router's ip: "Network is unreachable"
[04:01] <Ceres_3> I don't know what you mean by "current settings on nic(s)"
[04:02] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: Alright. Also, when I booted Debian, I couldn't access my Wifi. I assume I'll need a driver for that, too?
[04:02] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: when you type ifconfig -a what do you see can you pastie/gist it?
[04:02] <mysteriousdarren> yes
[04:02] <Ceres_3> When I do "$ ifconfig -a" I only get a local loopback, it doesn't even show eth0 anymore.
[04:02] <SolarisBoy> ok thanks
[04:02] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: give me a second.
[04:02] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: yes do you know your card? or is it a seperate card in the computer?
[04:02] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: external?
[04:03] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: My card is not external. I believe I know what card it is, if I was looking at the right thing in connected devices.
[04:03] <grendal-prime> so if i upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 is it going to upgrade to the unity shell ?
[04:03] <tjayh913> there, finally figured out that "sudo gedit /etc/default/grub" was the command I wanted
[04:04] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: do you see the devices in lspci output?
[04:04] <Ceres_3> SolarisBoy: I'm going to reboot and doublecheck that. That may be the result of some of the tests I tried to do after reading other websites (like "$ networking stop")
[04:04] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: i dont think rebooting is helping anything
[04:04] <SolarisBoy> or atleast until you diagnose the issue properly..
[04:04] <wars> me too
[04:04] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: so your connected through Ethernet?
[04:04] <wars> yes
[04:05] <Ceres_3> SolarisBoy: Ooops. Well, we're back to the desktop. I'll run ifconfig -a and lspci now.
[04:05] <SolarisBoy> ok
[04:05] <Ceres_3> I was mistaken. eth0 is showing up.
[04:05] <SolarisBoy> heh
[04:05] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: No. Right now I'm over Wifi. I'm on Windows 7 right now, where my card works just fine.
[04:05] <SolarisBoy> does it have an ip address?
[04:05] <wars> ifconfig eth0
[04:05] <grendal-prime> 12.04 from 10.04  does it upgrade the deskto to unity shell?
[04:06] <wars> en
[04:06] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: does it have an ip address?
[04:06] <Ceres_3> SolarisBoy: I don't see one.
[04:06] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: But since it didn't work on Debian, I am assuming it won't work on Ubuntu, either.
[04:06] <SolarisBoy> ok
[04:06] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: what is the response from ping please?
[04:06] <SolarisBoy> no need to paste the whole thing ofcourse =)
[04:06] <Ceres_3> SolarisBoy: What should I ping?
[04:06] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: well i'd find the driver in win7 and go for there and try to find the right one. How old is that debian?
[04:06] <SolarisBoy> you said you were pinging your gateway correct?
[04:06] <wars> telnet
[04:06] <wars> port
[04:06] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: I just torrented it today.
[04:06] <wars> haw-haw!
[04:06] <Ceres_3> SolarisBoy: Corrent
[04:07] <Ceres_3> *correct
[04:07] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: But don't I need Linux drivers? The Windows driver won't do me any good.
[04:07] <SolarisBoy> what was the response when you did that?
[04:07] <Ceres_3> SolarisBoy: connect: Network is unreachable
[04:07] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: well if you know what driver it is, you can always look on the manufacturers website and find the linux one.
[04:08] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: OK . question for you, are you statically or dhcp assigned?
[04:08] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: I believe this is my card Realtek RTL8188CE Wireless Lan 802. 11n PCI-E NIC
[04:08] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: also how do you generally configure your network Network Manager (the gui) or interfaces file?
[04:08] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: did u google it?
[04:08] <tiox> 'Sup guys. I am on 11.10 live right now and my 3G modem is working. Any way I can transfer settings over to my 12.04 installation to get my modem working there?
[04:09] <tiox> I plug it in, it is seen, and it works. Just don't get why it's not the case in Ubuntu 12.04.
[04:09] <Ceres_3> SolarisBoy: I was statically before the first reboot, when everything stopped. After the reboot, I put the file /etc/network/interfaces back to it's default state.
[04:09] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: I got strange websites. Maybe I should actually check the realtek website :/
[04:09] <mysteriousdarren> tiox: clean install? or upgrade to 12.04?
[04:09] <Ceres_3> SolarisBoy: When I had it set up for static ip, I edited the file. I don't know how to do it via the gui.
[04:09] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: can you post that pastie for that file?
[04:09] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: yes I am looking too
[04:10] <tiox> Dude, this is a fresh install.
[04:10] <Ceres_3> In four lines:
[04:11] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=272&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[04:11] <Ceres_3> auto lo
[04:11] <Ceres_3> iface lo inet loopback
[04:11] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: sorry for no short link
[04:11] <Ceres_3> [blank line]
[04:11] <Ceres_3> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:11] <Ceres_3> That is all.
[04:11] <SolarisBoy> i think auto defines what gets turned up on boot
[04:12] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: I must have looked at the wrong device; these are audio drivers.
[04:12] <SolarisBoy> but whatever can you try to manually bring it up? ifconfig eth0 x.x.x.x netmask x.x.x.x up
[04:12] <tiox> Nevermind, balls to it. I am going to install Ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop as it seems to have no sound issues and just works.
[04:12] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: replace the x with proper values
[04:12] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: yes it looks so my mistake as well.
[04:12] <tiox> Rather, on my hard drive I am using it from.
[04:13] <Ceres_3> SolarisBoy: so "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"?
[04:13] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: is that the ip address you intend to have on that box? are you sure thats not what your router defaults to (it doesn't have to but im saying)
[04:13] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: Do you know where to find the card on Windows?
[04:13] <SolarisBoy> if you then yes, but dont forget the up at the nd
[04:14] <SolarisBoy> *so
[04:14] <SolarisBoy> ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up || but make sure that ip is not a conflict...
[04:14] <Ceres_3> SolarisBoy: So the first x.x.x.x is what I want to have, and the second x.x.x.x is the address of my router?
[04:15] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: ok assume you wanted the ip address 192.168.1.50 and also assume that you are on a class C so then, ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.50 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
[04:16] <Ceres_3> SolarisBoy: Okay, done.
[04:16] <SolarisBoy> ok now do ifconfig eth0 and confirm it was taken
[04:16] <Guest83652> hi
[04:16] <SolarisBoy> are you _sure_ thats not the router ip? i dont want to have a back to back fail run =)
[04:16] <SolarisBoy> but anyway you did .50? or .1 ?
[04:16] <Guest83652> hi
[04:16] <Guest83652> so what
[04:17] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: I'm at a loss :/
[04:17] <Ceres_3> SolarisBoy: The command took. The ip I chose was .108, the router uses .1
[04:17] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: so this is for sure the right card? or We are both wrong?
[04:17] <SolarisBoy> perfect - so _now_ you need to add a gw so do this.. route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[04:17] <Guest83652> i have problem with ubuntu
[04:17] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: I think I found my audio card.
[04:17] <Ceres_3> SolarisBoy: I don't know what Bcast:192.168.1.255 means. I figured I'd throw that out there if it was important to you.
[04:17] <mysteriousdarren> Guest83652: whats the problem?
[04:18] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: well are u looking under the right place?
[04:18] <Ceres_3> SolarisBoy: Done.
[04:18] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: it means the broadcast ip for your network, which is not commonly used but if it iwere and you pinged it and enabled broadcast pings, it would ping everything on your network
[04:18] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: I'm not sure where to look.
[04:18] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: works or not?
[04:18] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: win7? debian?
[04:18] <Ceres_3> The internet is not working.
[04:18] <Ceres_3> I'll try pinging the router.
[04:19] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: I thought I had said I was on Windows 7, sorry. Yeah, the Debian was just on a flash drive. Never installed.
[04:19] <Ceres_3> SolarisBoy: Pinging the router is working.
[04:19] <Ceres_3> (I think, it's doing something at least)
[04:19] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: then that means your router isn't
[04:20] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote:I'll check quick just wait
[04:20] <SolarisBoy> so check there - your router is most likely a nat router, and if you can ping that and not get to the internet, it implies issue on router
[04:20] <phillip69> hello
[04:20] <Ceres_3> Okay. Other computers on the network can access the internet.
[04:20] <SolarisBoy> heh
[04:20] <SolarisBoy> weird
[04:20] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: Okay.
[04:20] <SolarisBoy> ok fine. can you ping another device on your network?
[04:20] <Ceres_3> I'll check the router's table and see if I have an conflict. There was none last I checked, but let's give it a try.
[04:20] <MaskilPDX> Hello phillip69
[04:20] <phillip69> Does anything about wicd
[04:21] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: good idea
[04:21] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: if its a linux based router try arp -an
[04:22] <SolarisBoy> what did you set as netmask Ceres_3?
[04:22] <Ceres_3> SolarisBoy: I can ping other computers.
[04:22] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: Well, I'm in Device Manager, and there are three things under "Network Adapters". The one I gave you, that turned out to be an audio card, was under there.
[04:22] <Ceres_3> SolarisBoy: Netmask was set to 255.255.255.0
[04:22] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: what are the other two?
[04:22] <bethebunny> Anyone know what the gnome-power-manager and gnome-volume-manager binaries were renamed to for 12.04?
[04:22] <SolarisBoy> ok
[04:23] <SolarisBoy> Ceres do this : netstat -rn
[04:23] <Ceres_3> SolarisBoy: Point of info, my computer is now showing up on the router with it's name and the correct ip address.
[04:23] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: do you have a line like : 0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0 eth0
[04:23] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: "Microsoft Virtual WiFi Miniport Adapter" and "Realtek PCIe FE Family Controller".
[04:23] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: ok
[04:24] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: what were you trying to do to test the inet?
[04:24] <Ceres_3> SolarisBoy: Yes, I have that line.
[04:24] <SolarisBoy> cool
[04:24] <SolarisBoy> seems about right - and still no inet? what are you testing on the net? a name or ip?
[04:24] <Ceres_3> I am opening Firefox and trying to navigate to pages I don't normally visit (to try and get around cache issues)
[04:25] <SolarisBoy> ping something by ip and see what you get please try 4.2.2.2
[04:25] <SolarisBoy> also try tcptraceroute if you have it installed maybe tcptraceroute -n google.com 80
[04:25] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: well that realtek driver is toward the bottom and its a networking driver for linux
[04:25] <Ceres_3> 64 byptes from 4.2.2.2: icmp_req=20 ttl=53 time=28.9 ms
[04:26] <SolarisBoy> that means your online
[04:26] <SolarisBoy> check your FF
[04:26] <Ceres_3> Well, this is better than an hour ago :)
[04:26] <SolarisBoy> did it switch itself to offline mode?
[04:26] <Ceres_3> Just checked. No.
[04:26] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: try this... in a terminal hopefully you would have it installed.
[04:27] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: curl -I http://google.com
[04:27] <SolarisBoy> dont need to paste it but if you get 200OK again, check your browser stuff
[04:27] <Ceres_3> Nope. Couldn't resolve host "google.com"
[04:28] <SolarisBoy> that is your issue rather dns
[04:28] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: you said you do caching correct? do you autostart your cache daemon after reboot?
[04:28] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: Which one is a network driver? I'm not seeing it.
[04:28] <SolarisBoy> and is it working listening on 53 and responding properly? because browsers work best by names and they imply weird things when dns is not working
[04:28] <Ceres_3> I meant I didn't want to get a cached version of a page in my firefox. I don't understand what a cache daemon is >_>
[04:29] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: heh - ok
[04:29] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: try this then.. cat /etc/resolv.conf |grep nameserver
[04:29] <theseb> why ubuntu one says "File Sync Disabled" all the time even after pressing the enable button a bunch of times?
[04:29] <Bower^> hey. i'm downloading ubuntu right now and i'd like to install it onto my spare hard drive. if i set my spare hard drive as my primary hardware will grub install any files to my current drive? i remember it used to do this and i really screwed me over when my ubuntu installation messed up
[04:30] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: whatever is returned if anything are the servers you do resolution with
[04:30] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: There are only two drivers and they don't say what they're for; just that they are Linux drivers.
[04:31] <zivester> damn you linked in, leeking our passwords
[04:31] <Ceres_3> The command executed with no text afterward.
[04:31] <Ceres_3> No debug output.
[04:31] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: the top one usually, and that is for your card. I am not good on installing linux drivers :(
[04:32] <Ceres_3> Also, navigating directly to 74.125.224.72 opens google.
[04:32] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: you have none configured , which is normal considering the manual way you did network up
[04:32] <bethebunny> Anyone know what the gnome-power-manager and gnome-volume-manager binaries were renamed to for 12.04?
[04:32] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: do this echo 4.2.2.2 > /etc/resolv.conf || this is a test
[04:32] <SolarisBoy> and then ping google.com
[04:32] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: Now, I can install this driver from inside Windows, right?
[04:33] <SolarisBoy> once you do that,, and confirm that it works, update interfaces and add auto eth0 and bounce the network so it comes up dhcp, then when you reboot you should be ok
[04:33] <Ceres_3> I must not be entering the command correctly.
[04:33] <SolarisBoy> oops
[04:34] <Ceres_3> bash:/ /etc/resolv.conf: P{ermission denied.
[04:34] <SolarisBoy> haha - this actually echo 'nameserver 4.2.2.2' > /etc/resolv.conf
[04:34] <D-Chymera> hi guys, why won't nautilus let me open files from over the network with say leafpad? no matter what I do it defaults to my browser :-/
[04:34] <Ceres_3> this: command not found.
[04:34] <SolarisBoy> without the this part
[04:34] <SolarisBoy> as root
[04:34] <SolarisBoy> or if you can't do it as root - this || echo 'nameserver 4.2.2.2' | sudo tee -a /etc/resolv.conf
[04:35] <Ceres_3> I tried the first one with sudo and still got permission denied. I'll try the second one now.
[04:35] <SolarisBoy> yea its a funny thing about updating root owned files =)
[04:35] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: Or do I just run it from inside Linux+
[04:35] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: *?
[04:35] <SolarisBoy> the last one will work because its called by sudo
[04:36] <Coyote> mysteriousdarren: Because Windows can't execute it. It's a GZ file.
[04:36] <Ceres_3> SolarisBoy: nameserver 4.2.2.2
[04:36] <SolarisBoy> cool Ceres_3: now you can verify the file? cat /etc/resolv.conf make sure that line is there
[04:37] <Ceres_3> ping google.com now works.
[04:37] <SolarisBoy> good
[04:37] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: update interfaces file properly
[04:37] <Ceres_3> As does navigating to google.com in firefox. I'll check to make sure that the file is good. One moment.
[04:37] <SolarisBoy> its ok if it now works
[04:37] <SolarisBoy> =)
[04:38] <SolarisBoy> just add auto eth0 into interfaces so it comes up on boot
[04:39] <Ceres_3> The line "iface eth0 inet dhcp" exists in the file /etc/network/interfaces.
[04:39] <Ceres_3> Is that what you mean?
[04:39] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: that doesn't mean it will come up like auto lo brings up the loopback =)
[04:39] <SolarisBoy> you need a seperate line i think on top of that to bring the interface _UP_ at boot time or network initialization
[04:39] <Ceres_3> I don't understand your last sentence, but the happy face makes me feel good.
[04:40] <SolarisBoy> just put 'auto eth0' on top of the line you pasted just now
[04:40] <SolarisBoy> bottom line
[04:40] <Ceres_3> "On top"? So after it, or before it?
[04:40] <Ceres_3> Oh, I think I understand what you mean.
[04:40] <Ceres_3> Should I reboot now and make sure it still works?
[04:41] <SolarisBoy> sure
[04:41] <phillip69> Does anyone know anything about wicd
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> !anyone
[04:42] <bethebunny> phillip69: What do you want to know about it?
[04:43] <phillip69> Whenever i try connecting my wireless card it says Connection Failed Bad Password
[04:43] <Ceres_3> It is working now. Thank you for the help. To be honest, I'm afraid of updating now. I don't want to have to do that every again :/
[04:43] <SolarisBoy> i dont think an update would do anything like that
[04:44] <bethebunny> phillip69: That could be because you fat-fingered the password, or it could be that you selected the wrong security protocol.
[04:44] <SolarisBoy> your welcome however =)
[04:45] <SolarisBoy> thats what i was thinking also @ that bad password message
[04:45] <bethebunny> How do I start the gnome-power-manager and gnome-volume-manager from the command line?
[04:45] <phillip69> Which protocol is for WEP 128 is that it
[04:45] <SolarisBoy> phillip69: wep
[04:45] <phillip69> yea
[04:45] <SolarisBoy> yea
[04:45] <SolarisBoy> thats it
[04:46] <SolarisBoy> so your probably fat fingering
[04:46] <phillip69> Okay ill try again thanks
[04:46] <SolarisBoy> sure
[04:46] <rhizmoe> how do i ensure that my mounts are established upon login? my music player scans for missing files and every time i start it up after rebooting i watch as it tries to remove everthing from my library.
[04:47] <Ceres_3> SolarisBoy: Mind doing me the favor of navigating to this link?: http://96.238.59.165
[04:47] <rhizmoe> nautilus lists them, but doesn't seem to bring the mounts up until they're accessed
[04:47] <SolarisBoy> why?
[04:47] <SolarisBoy> sure ill curl it
[04:47] <Ceres_3> That's my node.js server address.
[04:47] <bethebunny> rhizmoe: Your music is stored on a separate partition from your home directory that isn't automatically mounted?
[04:47] <Ceres_3> I just want to make sure we're back up and running.
[04:47] <SolarisBoy> really? hmm ok lets see
[04:47] <Ceres_3> If you see anything at all besides a server not found or 404, then we're good.
[04:47] <SolarisBoy> Ceres_3: its up
[04:48] <Ceres_3> You should see some websocket errors. I've got it attempting to connect to local host at the moment.
[04:48] <SolarisBoy> all black login screen
[04:48] <Ceres_3> Cool.
[04:48] <SolarisBoy> no errors
[04:48] <Ceres_3> Thanks so much for all the help.
[04:48] <SolarisBoy> np
[04:48] <mysteriousdarren> Coyote: you'd install it inside linux after ubuntu is installed.
[04:49] <SolarisBoy> rhizmoe: what type of mount is it?
[04:50] <hl00> hello
[04:52] <bethebunny> How do I start the gnome-power-manager, gnome-volume-manager, and skype from the command line?
[04:52] <slayer> hello all
[04:52] <sacarlson> why don't I see the lamp-server package in ubuntu 10.04 anymore?  did they rename it?
[04:52] <theseb> why ubuntu one says "File Sync Disabled" all the time even after pressing the enable button a bunch of times?
[04:53] <slayer> i'm running gkrellm and i can see an avg upload roate of 200K, how can I find out which app is uploading something on eth0?
[04:53] <slayer> rate*
[04:53] <slayer> i have no browsers running, the only app online is xchat which i just started after observing this behaviour for 10 mins
[04:53] <slayer> running netstat -nlp shows me a list of sockets, but beyond that?
[04:53] <SolarisBoy> slayer: you can try netstat to see what has connections open..
[04:53] <SolarisBoy> slayer: you want --tcp
[04:54] <SolarisBoy> slayer: netstat -pone --tcp
[04:54] <slayer> SolarisBoy, thanks, i see pidgin, mpd and samba
[04:54] <slayer> so perhaps one of those
[04:54] <SolarisBoy> theres also a tool iftop but it really shows more so endpoints for traffic than processes causing it
[04:55] <SolarisBoy> slayer: perhaps.
[04:55] <SolarisBoy> slayer: do you have a lot of pidgin chat accounts?
[04:55] <slayer> i just killed pidgin, the traffic continues
[04:55] <slayer> nope, only 2
[04:56] <SolarisBoy> slayer: how are you determing this traffic surge?
[04:56] <slayer> SolarisBoy, i can see it in gkrelllm
[04:56] <SolarisBoy> heh
[04:56] <slayer> SolarisBoy, also in gnome's system monitor where it shows net traffic
[04:56] <SolarisBoy> got it
[04:57] <slayer> SolarisBoy, think it might be incorrect?
[04:57] <SolarisBoy> slayer: ever use tcpdump or wireshark?
[04:57] <slayer> SolarisBoy, doh, of course, lemme fire up ethereal
[04:57] <SolarisBoy> not so much incorrect as inaccurate but not by much
[04:57] <slayer> wireshark*
[04:57] <SolarisBoy> slayer: torrents?
[04:57] <slayer> SolarisBoy, nope
[04:57] <SolarisBoy> k
[04:58] <SolarisBoy> yea the best i can say is try to open wireshark or tcpdump and grab you some tea
[04:58] <SolarisBoy> you can use iftop its pretty cool maybe you can look at the endpoints and figure out what it is
[04:58] <slayer> SolarisBoy, ah seems to be all smb
[04:59] <SolarisBoy> slayer: interesting
[04:59] <SolarisBoy> SolarisBoy: is it smb client? or are you running a samba server from there?
[04:59] <slayer> SolarisBoy, yeah, have a windows laptop that is connected now to this box, was copying files over yesterday at this time, strange that it should show so much activity now
[05:00] <slayer> SolarisBoy, a server, sharing some folders
[05:00] <Orukusaki> Windows server 2008 channel any help
[05:00] <SolarisBoy> slayer: server/client stuff does a lot of communication
[05:00] <SolarisBoy> especially things that work between windows and linux
[05:00] <SolarisBoy> could be keep alives/ beacons/ etc
[05:00] <SolarisBoy> anyway bounce the mount and see if that helps
[05:02] <slayer> SolarisBoy, yes, that seems to have fixed it, thanks
[05:02] <SolarisBoy> cool anytime
[05:02] <slayer> SolarisBoy, never expected to see so much traffic, almost as if someone were streaming a movie off it
[05:02] <SolarisBoy> windows is bat poop crazy its not surprising
[05:03] <SolarisBoy> it badly fubar's standardized implentations.. like tcp/ip
[05:04] <slayer> right
[05:04] <slayer> oh well, glad it's fixed
[05:04] <SolarisBoy> me2
[05:05] <bethebunny> How do I start the gnome-power-manager, gnome-volume-manager, and skype from the command line?
[05:09] <cipher__> pulseaudio is not running correctly, gnome-control-center is not showing any hardware / input /output available under sound, nor can i adjust the sound levels. (only alsamixer works directly) ... I need pulseaudio for mixing and such.  "cipher@panodora:/etc/pulse$ start-pulseaudio-x11 ..Connection failure: Connection refused..pa_context_connect() failed: Connection refused"
[05:10] <SolarisBoy> cipher__: pulseaudio --start ?
[05:10] <cipher__> cipher@panodora:~$ pulseaudio --start
[05:10] <cipher__> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[05:11] <SolarisBoy> cipher pulseaudio -vv
[05:11] <SolarisBoy> dont paste that one..
[05:11] <cipher__> http://pastie.org/4042408
[05:12] <rhizmoe> SolarisBoy: what kind of mount, you mean via fstab?
[05:13] <rhizmoe> or is there a better way to know?
[05:13] <SolarisBoy> cipher__: have you recently modified anything pulse related?
[05:13] <rhizmoe> this is from mount: /dev/sdc1 on /media/Data type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)
[05:13] <SolarisBoy> rhizmoe: what kind of mount is it that you would like to persist reboots? external hard drive like usb or such? network mount like nfs/samba, something else?
[05:14] <cipher__> a haywire package went through seemingly randomly removing half my packages
[05:14] <rhizmoe> oh, these are just other hard drives in my box. after install they appear to be automounted
[05:14] <cipher__> it corrupted my sound, and bumblebee :(
[05:14] <rhizmoe> (partially/dynamically, as it turns out)
[05:14] <SolarisBoy> E: [pulseaudio] module.c: Failed to load module "module-ladspa-sink" || seems to be the thing doing it
[05:15] <SolarisBoy> cipher__: try this. mv .pulse .pulse-old
[05:15] <bethebunny> rhizmoe: You're going to want to set up an entry in fstab
[05:15] <cipher__> ok
[05:15] <cipher__> start-pulseaudio-x11 didn't throw any errors this time
[05:16] <rhizmoe> bethebunny: ok, that's fine. should i do it uuid style, or is the traditional method ok?
[05:16] <SolarisBoy> rhizmoe: is the disk mounted to /media/Data what you wanted to automount and is not happening?
[05:16] <cipher__> should i reboot?
[05:16] <SolarisBoy> does your pulse work?
[05:16] <rhizmoe> SolarisBoy: it automounts in that it is listed in nautilus, but my music player doesn't seem to think it's connected until i access it some other way.
[05:16] <bethebunny> rhizmoe: I generally use the traditional method for non removable media. UUIDs are useful if you want to set up persistant rules for how to deal with specific removeable media, eg. a portable hard drive.
[05:17] <SolarisBoy> yea correct - like bethebunny said put it in fstab =)
[05:17] <rhizmoe> great, thanks!
[05:17] <cipher__> yes, after relogging it did
[05:17] <cipher__> thanks
[05:17] <SolarisBoy> anytime
[05:17] <cipher__> :D
[05:18] <cipher__> SolarisBoy, feel like working on bumblebee lol?
[05:18] <SolarisBoy> have no idea what that is
[05:18] <SolarisBoy> ;>
[05:18] <cipher__> the last stop in my road to recovery :p
[05:18] <cipher__> okay, it is software for optimus setups
[05:18] <SolarisBoy> optimus cameras?
[05:19] <SolarisBoy> optimus prime?
[05:19] <cipher__> ^^
[05:19] <rhizmoe> is the uhelper bit important for fstab purposes?
[05:19] <cipher__> integrated and dedicated  gpu's
[05:19] <SolarisBoy> oh boy
[05:19] <cipher__> it helps switch between them, and for power management
[05:19] <cipher__> i am trying to just switch to my dedicated gpu 24/7
[05:19] <SolarisBoy> wow - have no experiece with it
[05:19] <rhizmoe> optimus was also the radio shack brand for some electronics
[05:19] <SolarisBoy> sounds cool
[05:19] <cipher__> but my horrible bios, has no such option
[05:20] <cipher__> yay, the tornado finally passed
[05:20] <SolarisBoy> if it requires a bios option you dont have its pretty cut and dry no?
[05:20] <cipher__> *leaves basement*
[05:20] <SolarisBoy> wow tornadoes? thats very scary
[05:20] <cipher__> this was some high action, intense, dangerous, linux fixing
[05:20] <SolarisBoy> lol
[05:21] <cipher__> yeah, there is like 5 inches of hail now
[05:21] <tnm_> how can i opene mounted network location in terminal?
[05:21] <SolarisBoy> tnm_: cd
[05:21] <piecemaker> hello
[05:21] <SolarisBoy> cipher__: woa thats insane
[05:22] <cipher__> does anyone know how i can change my default gpu? (optimus laptop xps15z) ..  and yeah it was sort of loud lol
[05:22] <piecemaker> does someone knows some sort of fast, free and easy way to install ubuntu on Android device? :)
[05:22] <tnm_> SolarisBoy, cs to what location?
[05:23] <SolarisBoy> tnm_: the path to the network mount. e.g. if it's mounted at /mnt/video then cd /mnt/video
[05:23] <piecemaker> cipher__: in most cases you can't change the built-in gpu
[05:23] <rysh> tnm_: use df to see what's mounted
[05:24] <tnm_> SolarisBoy, well the network path is mounted through nautilus but there's no folder in /mnt/ ...
[05:24] <SolarisBoy> if your looking to "open" it like in nautilus then you need to know where it is. if it's not under your $HOME it will likely be somewhere on the "filesystem" link
[05:24] <Orukusaki> +I
[05:24] <Chuck_Norris> cipher__: what is the issue?
[05:24] <piecemaker> does someone knows some sort of fast, free and easy way to install ubuntu on Android device? :)
[05:24] <SolarisBoy> tnm_: use mount command
[05:24] <SolarisBoy> tnm_: just type 'mount'
[05:25] <SolarisBoy> and you should see those network shares and where they are mounted
[05:25] <cipher__> Chuck_Norris, bumblebee stopped working. I seriously want to give up on it and change my default gpu to the nvidia one.
[05:25] <cipher__> Need it for opengl 4.x
[05:26] <tnm_> SolarisBoy, i found that there's a network folder under the /home/user/.gvfs folder
[05:26] <SolarisBoy> tnm_: thats not it
[05:26] <Chuck_Norris> but this notebook have only one GPU and that is a nvidia 525 ¿right?
[05:27] <rhizmoe> my notification bar fonts have a cyan blur to them
[05:27] <cipher__> and the integrated one
[05:27] <tnm_> SolarisBoy, well i'm looking at the content of this network folder...
[05:27] <cipher__> which it defaults to
[05:27] <Chuck_Norris> ye,  are you using the proprietary driver?
[05:28] <SolarisBoy> thats not it
[05:28] <cipher__> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current* ... if that didn't do it, not sure what will. though actually under bumblebee.conf if i change the default driver to nvidia, it wont run at all. atm it reverts to software rendering
[05:28] <SolarisBoy> gvfs is a fuse mounting system - if you type df you will see it, its mounted to a .file under your home, it may contain things that you notice - its not where you should try to interact with them at
[05:29] <Chuck_Norris> cipher__: ye that command install 295.40 which is bugy, you should install 295.53
[05:29] <Chuck_Norris> cipher__: open Dash and type: nvidia, and see your driver version
[05:30] <cipher__> Is Dash a terminal emulator? Also i typed nvidia in sakura, and "command not found"
[05:30] <Chuck_Norris> in main menu (Dash)
[05:31] <Chuck_Norris> cipher__: type: nvidia, and you will see an icons called "Nvidia Xorg Setting" or some like that
[05:31] <Chuck_Norris> click on it, and you will see ther drivers version
[05:31] <cipher__> yeah, i actually dont have that anymore, since that corrupted package ate half of mine on install
[05:31] <bethebunny> Dash is a debian-developed implementation of the posix shell, and is what is invoked in ubuntu if you run /bin/sh. The official name for the ubuntu menu is the "HUD".
[05:31] <SolarisBoy> yuk
[05:32] <Chuck_Norris> cipher__: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:33] <cipher__> no way in hell :P
[05:33] <SolarisBoy> lol
[05:33] <cipher__> i am not upgrading
[05:33] <SolarisBoy> hes shellshocked =)
[05:33] <Chuck_Norris> as you like
[05:33] <cipher__> i spent 20 hours non stop getting 11.10 bootable
[05:34] <cipher__> no mouse, no keyboard ,no wireless
[05:34] <cipher__> no anything
[05:34] <SolarisBoy> fun stuff
[05:34] <Chuck_Norris> oh! man, upgrade to 12.04 a lot of improvement
[05:34] <cipher__> that will repeat
[05:34]  * SolarisBoy no comment
[05:34] <piecemaker> 12.04 iprovement at what? :D
[05:34] <Chuck_Norris> everything for me
[05:34] <cipher__> let me screen shot my desktop
[05:35] <SolarisBoy> i think there has been varying success with that
[05:35] <bethebunny> piecemaker: They finally got rid of banshee and went back to a good music player :P
[05:35] <Chuck_Norris> and a lot of performance
[05:35] <sacarlson> Chuck_Norris: what about nautilus that seems missing a bunch of features and gedit that no longer can encrypt or decrypt file anymore in 12.04
[05:35] <piecemaker> for me every ubuntu 9.04< is getting worse
[05:35] <SolarisBoy> everyone at my work place that upgraded had it rough in the beginning but we use these weird laptops anyway so i think that was the real issue with nvidia stuff
[05:35] <Chuck_Norris> sacarlson: xD
[05:35] <SolarisBoy> <-- 11.10 for a while
[05:36] <Chuck_Norris> sacarlson: do you know about "nae" (Nautilus Action Extras) ?
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> gnome devs changeing things is not a reflection on the ubuntu devs...
[05:36] <sacarlson> <-- 10.04 with backports for a while for me too
[05:36] <piecemaker> i.e. bluetooth don't work, setting up gpu acceleration was a big struggle
[05:36] <SolarisBoy> woa thats a blast from the past
[05:36] <rysh> <--- Linuxmint 3 since yesterday ... And not going back
[05:36] <bethebunny> I actually haven't had any major problems with 12.04. I just installed awesomewm and never looked back at unity >.>
[05:36] <sacarlson> Chuck_Norris: no I didn't nae?  I'll check
[05:36] <rysh> s/3/13/
[05:36] <Chuck_Norris> i have installed nae so maybe by default there is some missing stuff but... i have all i want and i love 12.04
[05:36] <SolarisBoy> ubuntu is awesome i never really was into the spin offs i dont see the point or difference
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> unity lens have saved me a lot of time.  hud also saves me time.
[05:37] <Chuck_Norris> sacarlson:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nae-team/ppa ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install nautilus-actions-extra
[05:37] <SolarisBoy> i just dont upgrade easy - is all, with anything though
[05:37] <rysh> just like the gui more
[05:37] <SolarisBoy> Dr_Willis: those too make me want to accept the upgrade always - alway hear good things about them
[05:37] <piecemaker> i am really thinking about switching to gentoo
[05:37] <SolarisBoy> *two
[05:37] <sacarlson> Chuck_Norris: oh maybe that's why I failed to find it in ppa
[05:37] <Chuck_Norris> sacarlson: https://launchpad.net/~nae-team/+archive/ppa
[05:37] <SolarisBoy> piecemaker: thats crazyness
[05:37] <bethebunny> Dr_Willis: Unity was awesome, until it 100% broke alt-tabbing and workspaces. I think this was in 11.04 when they chunked it.
[05:38] <piecemaker> solarisboy: why?
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> cant say that ive noticed any issues with alt tabing orrrr workspaces bethebunny
[05:38] <Django> what ubuntu version suits best for a rockie just gettisg started at it?
[05:38] <Jordan_U> !ot | piecemaker SolarisBoy
[05:38] <mohadib> hello, i am trying to get a virt interface to come up at boot time, but it does not start, does my interfaces file look incorrect?  http://pastebin.com/Wn2Bfp7q
[05:38] <Chuck_Norris> sacarlson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028078/
[05:38] <bethebunny> piecemaker: Gentoo is fun, until your portage tree gets too dirty and you have to fight tooth and nail to do basic security updates.
[05:38] <SolarisBoy> womp womp
[05:39] <phenrique> anyone knows where i found ebooks (such as Silberschatz, Tanenbaum) for download?
[05:39] <Jordan_U> !ot | bethebunny phenrique
[05:39] <cipher__> Chuck_Norris,  http://i50.tinypic.com/5unshu.png
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> phenrique:  a lot of publishers have their older books for free on their sites. thats tthe legal way to get them'
[05:39] <SolarisBoy> mohadib: you can't have a different network on the alias
[05:40] <sacarlson> Chuck_Norris: I don't see pastebinit added to nautilus in the nae, that's a big missing for me
[05:40] <mohadib> SolarisBoy: what do you mean?
[05:40] <Django> what is Debian GNU/Linux?
[05:40] <mohadib> SolarisBoy: it works if i use ifup, just not at boot time
[05:40] <Ormie> !details
[05:40] <Jordan_U> Django: Try asking in #debian. This is #ubuntu.
[05:40] <SolarisBoy> it works with that gateway line also?
[05:40] <mohadib> yep
[05:40] <cipher__> lol
[05:40] <cipher__> wow, what a run around.
[05:41] <sacarlson> Chuck_Norris: still no encrypt/decrypt added in nautilus for pgp gpg
[05:41] <Chuck_Norris> sacarlson: if you have the pastebin script you can easyly move into the nautilus scripts folder
[05:41] <SolarisBoy> mohadib: how about auto eth0?
[05:41] <bethebunny> Dr_Willis: Try maximizing a window in a workspace, with two other small floating applications in an adjacent workspace. Now, you can alt-tab once to switch workspaces! Even better, when you press alt-tab again, you don't get back to your original program, you switch to the third one!
[05:41] <cipher__> i wonder why i get x86_64 three times in my uname?
[05:41] <rysh> Django: Or you maybe can google for it?
[05:41] <doc|home> anyone got suggestions for a decent FPS that's in apt? I'm looking for a way to kill some time.
[05:41] <SolarisBoy> i had no idea you could do that but now that i think of its how most cisco's work
[05:41]  * doc|home misses enemy territory
[05:41] <mohadib> SolarisBoy: that was my next thing to try, but i was scared i would lock myself out of the box :s
[05:41] <Django> Jordan_U: The Thing Is That I'm Planning On Getting Started To Ubuntu Linux But Im Not Quite Sure Wich Version To DOwnload
[05:41] <sacarlson> Chuck_Norris: I looked breafly into that posibilty of adding scirpts but failed to figure out how to pass values
[05:41] <Django> And I'm A Bit COnfused
[05:41] <doc|home> Django: that's an odd use of capitalisation
[05:42] <SolarisBoy> mohadib: thats your line in?
[05:42] <mohadib> SolarisBoy: in this case, i got have an unused eth1, think ill just make use of it, thanks
[05:42] <mohadib> SolarisBoy: yes
[05:42] <SolarisBoy> hmm
[05:42] <mohadib> s/got/do
[05:42] <sacarlson> Chuck_Norris: but I'm sure they will at least have those fixed in 1 or 2 years when I can upgrade to 12.04
[05:42] <SolarisBoy> that would be optimal rather than create a single point of failure on an unrelated interface =)
[05:42] <bethebunny> Django: Unless you really want KDE or are using a very old (6+ years) laptop, you should probably install 12.04 64-bit desktop edition.
[05:43] <Django> doc home: what are you annonymous or something? xD
[05:43] <doc|home> Django: hmm?
[05:43] <mohadib> SolarisBoy: yep :)
[05:43] <mohadib> ok, thanks again
[05:43] <Ormie> I have a problem with Ubuntu 12.04 Internal error I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04 When I am about to download virtual box package I get the following output: "Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error message but I expected it to work normally
[05:43] <SolarisBoy> why do those ips look so familiar?
[05:43] <skramer_> I just noticed that some packages on my laptop are installed both, i386 as well as amd64. Could somebody explain why this is?
[05:44] <SolarisBoy> skramer_: i think thats normal some packages require both
[05:44] <Ormie> Oh and, problem type: Crash
[05:44] <SolarisBoy> dependancies and such pull them in also
[05:44] <cipher__> well, i am running an optimus laptop with broken optimus software (bumblebee), if anyone can try to troubleshoot with me, i'd immensely appreciate it
[05:44] <Shdwdrgn> I just upgraded a machine from natty to oneiric, and I'm having an issue with ipv6 services.  Machines on the local ipv4 network can connect to ipv6 services (such as ssh) immediately, but machines outside of the ipv4 network hang for several minutes before connecting.  Any ideas?
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> skramer_:  some apps use the ia386 libs for comptability
[05:44] <Shdwdrgn> and no, this was not an issue right before the upgrade.
[05:45] <Django> bethebunny: and if im running a clone with windows 7 ultimate (hopping to change it for linux)...Hardware: i5, 8GB Ram, HDD750GB, INtegrated Video
[05:45] <Django> ???
[05:45] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: disable ipv6?  I assume your isp is just ipv4
[05:45] <skramer_> I see... Perhaps I just did not notice before ;-)
[05:45] <Shdwdrgn> sacarlson, I use ipv6 services through an HE tunnel
[05:45] <SolarisBoy> skramer_: most likely =)
[05:46] <bethebunny> Django: Then you absolutely want 12.04 64-bit desktop edition ;)
[05:46] <SolarisBoy> Shdwdrgn: are you accessing those services by name or ip addies?
[05:46] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, currently testing by IP address
[05:47] <SolarisBoy> hmm ok
[05:47] <Shdwdrgn> however the results were the same by name
[05:47] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: so you have dual stack ipv6 + ipv4 on local but only ipv6 wan?
[05:47] <SolarisBoy> it reminded me of something else but that was dns related like cycling through ipv6 and v4 tries but if it's the same for both thats more than likely not the case for you
[05:48] <Shdwdrgn> sacarlson, I have both ipv4 and ipv6 access through wan
[05:48] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: also you can force ipv6 or ipv4 on ssh client with -4 or -6
[05:48] <Net_Shade> hello has anyone else have a problem with setting a password with file roller?
[05:48] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, the two services I'm working with right now are ssh and dns... both are responding the same way
[05:49] <SolarisBoy> right
[05:49] <Shdwdrgn> sacarlson, ipv4 access to the machine is working normal, it is only the ipv6 access that is being delayed
[05:49] <SolarisBoy> Shdwdrgn: have you tried debugging options on your commands?
[05:49] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: well if ipv6 is delayed and it falls back to ipv4 if you just -4 it will skip that step
[05:50] <SolarisBoy> and someone stated it but you can use -4 on a lot of commands and -6 as well to just use that version ip proto
[05:50] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, such as?  For example, I can ssh to this server from another server in my dmz with no problems, but when I try to ssh to the server from my desktop, it hangs for several minutes before the connection is made.
[05:51] <SolarisBoy> such as ssh -vvv? dnstracer?
[05:51] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: try both -4 and -6 on the slow one to see if that fixes it then if so make a alias for it
[05:51] <SolarisBoy> but also like said -4 and -6 sound applicable to you
[05:52] <Shdwdrgn> when I test using dig, it tells me which IP it gets the reply from.  I can get an ipv6 reply from another server in my dmz, but trying to dig from my desktop, I get a timeout
[05:52] <SolarisBoy> yea but you didn't trace the time out or what happend is what im saying
[05:52] <GekiritZ> Hey everyone
[05:52] <SolarisBoy> can you try -4 and -6?
[05:52] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: it could be some kind of routing problem or other that could also fix it but this will at least isolate the problem
[05:52] <SolarisBoy> right
[05:53] <GekiritZ> I have an issue - it's partly hardware related, but it's a complete mystery to me on a software level as well
[05:53] <Shdwdrgn> ok when I try "dig -6", it is defaulting back to the ipv4 address for the reply
[05:53] <Shdwdrgn> (from my desktop)
[05:53] <SolarisBoy> ssh -4 or ssh -6
[05:53] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: I setup a ipv6 only network that converts all ipv4 to ipv6,  that might be another solution for you
[05:54] <SolarisBoy> dig uses your resolver file/setup anyway
[05:54] <Shdwdrgn> "ssh -4" goes right through... I'm still waiting on -6
[05:54] <SolarisBoy> so problem is isolated
[05:54] <GekiritZ> Long story short - I was given a laptop with a busted screen - I hooked up an external display, booted Ubuntu 12.04LTS from USB, installed properly, rebooted from HDD with the external display
[05:54] <phillip69> hello
[05:55] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, if I do "dig -6" from another server within my dmz, the query replies immediately
[05:55] <phillip69> Does anyone know anything about wicd
[05:55] <SolarisBoy> dig uses your resolver/setup
[05:55] <Shdwdrgn> however my point still remains... all of these ipv6 commands were working just fine a couple hours ago before I upgraded to oneiric
[05:55] <SolarisBoy> are you saying those servers have the same setup on top of being in the same lan?
[05:55] <GekiritZ> Ran update manager - it failed somewhere at 80% down the line - I wasn't really concerned, most updates (255) seemed trivial and I decided to take my losses (didn't check where it failed)
[05:55] <GekiritZ> Rebooted
[05:56] <GekiritZ> No more external display
[05:56] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: you can also point dig to a server with dig @8.8.8.8
[05:56] <GekiritZ> And no more boot as far as I could tel either
[05:56] <SolarisBoy> otherwise its using your resolver configuration....
[05:56] <SolarisBoy> so if its hanging,, you should probably check it
[05:56] <Shdwdrgn> sacarlson, yes that is how I am providing the ipv6 address in my dig commands
[05:56] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: some bind9 or other dns servers will only listen on ipv6 or ipv4
[05:56] <GekiritZ> Tried FN-fkey combos, no avail - tried booting from USB, nothing - tried booting from optical, jack
[05:56] <Shdwdrgn> bind9 is configured to listen on both ipv4 and ipv6
[05:56] <GekiritZ> Complete and utter darkness
[05:57] <GekiritZ> is there a key combo or sequence on boot I'm missing?
[05:57] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: by default your correct but you can config bind9 to listen on just one or the other
[05:57] <gh0ul>  /part
[05:57] <gh0ul> oopsie
[05:57] <Shdwdrgn> oh, also of note... my other servers (also providing ipv6 services) were upgraded from natty to oneiric last week, and none of them are having this problem
[05:57] <GekiritZ> fiy - external does not work on POST or BIOS afaik
[05:58] <Shdwdrgn> sacarlson, yes it *can* be, but mine is specifically configured to listen on both
[05:58] <GekiritZ> So when it's sitting there, idling, with no HDD activity or noticeable processes going on, I have no idea what it's doing
[05:58] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: firewall settings?  you said it's different in dmz
[05:58] <SolarisBoy> so one server out of many is exhibiting this issue Shdwdrgn?
[05:59] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: did you set forwarding for ipv6 ?
[05:59] <GekiritZ> I swapped out the HDD with another one to get some idea of what's going on - but it's basically ubuntu refusing to boot
[05:59] <GekiritZ> Black screen
[05:59] <GekiritZ> Nothing
[05:59] <Shdwdrgn> sacarlson, I did restart shorewall6 (firewall is a physically different machine) just in case, but that did not corredct the issue
[05:59] <GekiritZ> Anyone have any idea?
[05:59] <SolarisBoy> i would look at the _one_ server in the dmz having the issue for differences
[05:59] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: check ipv6 forwarding settings on your router
[06:00] <SolarisBoy> didn't you say another or other servers in the dmz work?
[06:00] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, correct - one server out of four.  All four have now been upgraded to oneiric, but this is the only one giving me a problem.
[06:00] <SolarisBoy> sounds pretty obvious to me
[06:00] <piecemaker> GekiritZ: try unplugging the HDD and boot from usb
[06:00] <SolarisBoy> i dont see why you would look elsewhere
[06:00] <GekiritZ> piece: will do that... didn't think of approaching it from that angle yet
[06:00] <sacarlson> SolarisBoy: Shdwdrgn: if some work it's probly because they have tunnled to ipv6 throught ipv4 and ipv6 is not forwarded
[06:01] <SolarisBoy> i would check that server in comparison to a working one especially assuming they are same/similar || specifically netowkr etc
[06:01] <SolarisBoy> probably
[06:01] <GekiritZ> I just reinstalled ubuntu on the original hdd plugged in another laptop
[06:01] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, I would assume the same thing... the only thing that has changed tonight is that I upgraded this particular machine, and now ipv6 is having problems.  I can only assume this machine is the source of the problem
[06:01] <GekiritZ> and it's booting on fine
[06:01] <piecemaker> GekiritZ: what kind of gpu you have there?
[06:01] <SolarisBoy> Shdwdrgn: i would agree - especially granted that v6 and v4 works on other ones in DMZ right?
[06:02] <GekiritZ> I have no clue - the laptop was given to me by a friend who is as computer savvy as a fried potato
[06:02] <SolarisBoy> so yea - compare _THAT_ server to a working one - specifically network configurations
[06:02] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, yes both v4 and v6 services have all been working fine on the other machines since upgrading
[06:02] <SolarisBoy> ^^
[06:02] <SolarisBoy> or start pasting some valid data..
[06:02] <GekiritZ> As far as any designation on the casing goes, I can only tell you it's a Compaq laptop from the CQ62 series
[06:02] <SolarisBoy> to paste bin
[06:03] <Shdwdrgn> # dig . @2001:470:8388:10:0:100:53:10
[06:03] <GekiritZ> exact type was visible during installation, but at the time didn't figure it would horribly die on me like it did
[06:03] <Shdwdrgn> when I do that from another server, it works fine
[06:03] <SolarisBoy> great
[06:03] <Shdwdrgn> when I do it from another machine, it hangs and times out
[06:03] <piecemaker> GekiritZ: intel or amd cpu?
[06:03] <SolarisBoy> its not helping your situation
[06:03] <GekiritZ> Dammit!
[06:03] <GekiritZ> Piece
[06:03] <SolarisBoy> thats a client your not debugging
[06:03] <GekiritZ> You just made me realize something XD
[06:04] <GekiritZ> The other laptop I installed it on right now is AMD
[06:04] <GekiritZ> the original one with the external display issues is Intel
[06:04] <SolarisBoy> your just getting  a timeout - you can make no assumption to why - use debugging options or commands specifically for debugging
[06:04] <GekiritZ> Is ubuntu designed to handle a carryover?
[06:04] <SolarisBoy> i said ssh -vvv || and also dnstracer
[06:04] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, well obviously the new server is responding to it's IPv6 address, and bind9 is responding to queries on the machine, so it seems that eliminates a networking issue
[06:04] <geeky_bitsian> can anyone please explain me the terms 1.) pinned perf counter,  2.) nonpinned perf counter, 3.) flexible perf counter ?
[06:05] <SolarisBoy> Shdwdrgn: the issue was never the not receiving or receiving of a response was it?
[06:05] <piecemaker> GekiritZ: carryover?
[06:05] <SolarisBoy> it was a latency in multiple prototocls on one machine no?
[06:05] <SolarisBoy> or am i mistaken?
[06:05] <GekiritZ> the compaq I want to get running an external display on ubuntu is an Intel celeron
[06:05] <GekiritZ> Yeah, carryover - installed on hardware config A and then moved to hardware config B by means of swapping harddrives
[06:05] <piecemaker> GekiritZ: so it has intel gmaXXXX gpu
[06:05] <GekiritZ> It most likely does, piece
[06:06] <phillip69> How do i get wicd to work properly on xubuntu
[06:06] <Guest87497> I just installed Ubunto in my labtop Lenovo 3000 N100 but I restarted the laptop, I get black screen with a cursor blinking at the top left corner. Any help to fix this problem?
[06:06] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, good point, let me check if the machine actually receives the queries in a timely manner
[06:06] <SolarisBoy> yea - run debugging commands dude
[06:06] <SolarisBoy> ill brb
[06:06] <gr33n7007h> phillip69, whats the problem
[06:06] <piecemaker> GekiritZ: hmm, good question :)
[06:07] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, ok queries are received via ipv6 immediately
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | Guest87497
[06:07] <phillip69> whenever i try to connect to my wireless card it says Connection Failed Bad Password
[06:07] <SolarisBoy> so whats the problem? it seems you have a very polymorphic issue thats constantly changing
[06:07] <SolarisBoy> does ipv4 work and ipv6 work?
[06:07] <Guest87497> when I boot from the flash disk it is working fine
[06:08] <gr33n7007h> phillip69, what security protocol is it
[06:08] <phillip69> WEP
[06:08] <MrCleanWithHair> Is anyone in here familiar with sikh?
[06:08] <gr33n7007h> phillip69, what interface are you using wired wireless
[06:08] <phillip69> wireless through alfa network card
[06:09] <conflagrant> hi  all
[06:09] <Guest87497> but when I boot from the hard drive I get the blank screen with blinking cursor
[06:09] <gr33n7007h> phillip69, do an ifconfg in terminal and determine the interface
[06:09] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, ipv4 works fine, there are no issues there.  When I dig via ipv6 from another local server, I get the replies.  When I query from a machine from another network, the server receives the query, but the client never gets a reply
[06:09] <Guest87497> I am a Windows guy and I just formated my Windows 7 and install ubunto.
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> Guest87497:  and your video card is a?
[06:10] <shanky_ty> MrCleanWithHair: wat is sikh?
[06:10] <SolarisBoy> so the lan can resolve ipv4 and ipv6 but something is blocking something else going back out
[06:10] <SolarisBoy> and it has nothing to do with one server is what your saying?
[06:10] <MrCleanWithHair> server
[06:11] <CookieM> Guest87497 and what are first impressions?
[06:11] <Guest87497> I do not know what is my video card but when I boot from the flash drive, ubuntu wroks fine
[06:11] <SolarisBoy> do you have your gateways set properly?
[06:11] <siva4080> Gmail and some Bank pages is not opening on Firefox with Wi-Fi connection (all other websites are opening fine). But When I use wired connection , all pages are opening fine including Gmail and Bank pages..  What could be the problem with Wi-Fi ?
[06:11] <shanky_ty> MrCleanWithHair: ne links..?
[06:11] <MrCleanWithHair> naw
[06:11] <phillip69> I tried that and it is picking up but whenever I go to the internet it says Connection Failed Bad Password
[06:11] <MrCleanWithHair> only heard rumors about the sikhs
[06:11] <SolarisBoy> Shdwdrgn: is that a "complex network" ? i see you have a dmz, it kind of implies you enforce rules to get in and out...
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> Guest87497:  so.. try the nomodeset option as stated earlier.. then try to install any extra drivers your card needs
[06:11] <MrCleanWithHair> can't verify anything
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | Guest87497
[06:12] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, I would think it has everything to do with the server that just got upgraded, which is also the server running bind, ssh, etc.  However I don't understand why this one is having troubles, when I can still query bind on the other servers that got upgraded.
[06:12] <Guest87497> what is !nomodeset and how can I start it?
[06:12] <gr33n7007h> phillip69, is it WEP hex or WEP passphrase
[06:12] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, yeah, fairly complex... however the firewall has not been changed, only the server
[06:12] <shanky_ty> MrCleanWithHair: i thought u were talking about religoun lol
[06:12] <phillip69> WEP passphrase
[06:12] <SolarisBoy> Shdwdrgn: have you started doing comparisons yet?
[06:12] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, the server itself has no iptables rules
[06:13] <gr33n7007h> go to preferences in wicd and make sure it WEP passphrase
[06:13] <MrCleanWithHair> shanky_ty, do you know about sikh?
[06:13] <GekiritZ> piecemaker: We're about to find out if it does handle a carryover :P
[06:13] <SolarisBoy> what about gateways - but im confused again - your saying you can't query dns from the dns server itself? it would really help if you put some of the data on a pastie so we can see it
[06:13] <piecemaker> GekiritZ: :D
[06:13] <GekiritZ> piecemaker: just put the HDD back... booting now
[06:14] <Guest87497> I can not use my laptop anymore. Can someone help me? I am very new to Ubuntu
[06:14] <SolarisBoy> like have you tried to tcpdump dns traffic while its happening?
[06:14] <GekiritZ> piecemaker: Works!
[06:14] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, here's something from syslog that might pertain to the issue?  I see a lot of "imuxsock begins to drop messages from pid..."  The pid in question is slapd, but google search seems to point to imuxsock errors being related to ipv6 issues?
[06:14]  * piecemaker dances :D
[06:14] <shanky_ty> MrCleanWithHair: only a religioun
[06:14]  * GekiritZ dances along
[06:15] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: I note that I see this #net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding=1  in /etc/sysctl.conf so by default ipv6 is not forwarded
[06:15] <phillip69> Ive tried it and its set  right
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | Guest87497  the bot may be down.
[06:15] <GekiritZ> Now - I'll have to see what caused it to fail horribly
[06:15] <MrCleanWithHair> shanky_ty, have you used sikh before any sikh religion or program related to ubuntu that I might beed help with?
[06:15] <GekiritZ> I ran a full range of updates from update manager
[06:15] <GekiritZ> 255 updates total, that failed - rebooted - dead
[06:15] <shanky_ty> MrCleanWithHair: nop
[06:15] <GekiritZ> That's the only lead I have
[06:16] <MrCleanWithHair> kk
[06:16] <Shdwdrgn> sacarlson, I do have net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding=1 uncommented, but thanks
[06:16]  * GekiritZ crosses fingers
[06:16] <siva4080> Do anyone knows why gmail is not working/opening on Wi-Fi ?
[06:16]  * piecemaker crosses too
[06:16] <shanky_ty> [0]
[06:16] <Guest87497> I do not think I have any problem with the video card because when I boot from the flash drive, Ubuntu works fine.
[06:17] <gr33n7007h> phillip69, on your network go to properties
[06:17] <gr33n7007h> in wicd
[06:17] <phillip69> okay
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> Guest87497:  try the nomodeset option on the instaolled system...
[06:17] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: so what is the value at your system that routes for sudo sysctl  net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding ?
[06:18] <gr33n7007h> where it says encryption what does it say
[06:18] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: the one that has the firewall the creates the dmz?
[06:18] <Shdwdrgn> sacarlson, "net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding = 1"
[06:18] <Shdwdrgn> oh, checking firewall now
[06:18] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: so much for that idea then
[06:18] <Shdwdrgn> firewall also =1
[06:18] <GekiritZ> piecemaker: I'm not sure - should I reattempt those updates, facing the danger of reliving that nightmare? :P
[06:18] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: oh ya not on your system the firewalled system
[06:18] <Guest87497> I do not see the menu to select or type any command to go to nomodeset . When I use the flash drive, it goes directly to ubunto desktop
[06:19] <piecemaker> GekiritZ: it's your choice ;)
[06:19] <Shdwdrgn> oddly, my other servers which were upgraded have that value =0, even though they are resolving ipv6 just fine
[06:19] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: only the router has to forward not the clients
[06:19] <Shdwdrgn> ah ok
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> Guest87497:  you read the forum post the bot gave you?
[06:20] <Shdwdrgn> could this be causing an issue, since this is the only server that has that value set =1
[06:20] <GekiritZ> piecemaker: At least I can safely say that you can carry around a HDD based installation of Ubuntu to other hardware setups
[06:20] <gr33n7007h> phillip69, have you tried manually connecting to your network?
[06:20] <[|][|][|]> KacoDCC: Why are you sending TIME and VERSION CTCPs?
[06:20] <GekiritZ> It adapted on the spot
[06:21] <[|][|][|]> Who are you trying to hack?
[06:21] <GekiritZ> checking drivers atm
[06:21] <KacoDCC> LOL
[06:21] <KacoDCC> hack?
[06:21]  * KacoDCC rolling on floor
[06:21] <piecemaker> GekiritZ: that's because the kernel itself is compiled to support wide range of devices
[06:21] <nocturnal_> hello computer; im hacking into the system
[06:21] <KacoDCC> hahaha
[06:21] <KacoDCC> hello what TIME is it??? ..... HACKED!!!!
[06:22] <[|][|][|]> Well, yes.  It's quite easy to exploit someone's client if you know what version they are using.
[06:22] <KacoDCC> ok please exploit me
[06:22] <[|][|][|]> Just make a script that versions all the users in a channel to see if they are using a vulnerable client.
[06:22] <[|][|][|]> And voila
[06:22] <nocturnal_> KacoDCC: what ubuntu do you have?
[06:23] <KacoDCC> nocturnal_, Mac OS X 10.7.4 Lion
[06:23] <KacoDCC> :)
[06:23] <nocturnal_> KacoDCC: perfect i'm hacking you now
[06:23] <KacoDCC> yes you can try :)
[06:23] <KacoDCC> and you didn't even need a CTCP
[06:23] <KacoDCC> just a polite ask :-D
[06:23] <nocturnal_> KacoDCC: okay i'm in. now i'm deleting all teh files
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> take it to OT please...
[06:24] <KacoDCC> [|][|][|]: why are you using 3 vaginas as a nick?
[06:24] <KacoDCC> :-D
[06:24] <piecemaker> KacoDCC: can you please give me a password to your account?
[06:24] <KacoDCC> piecemaker, check privmsg
[06:24] <KacoDCC> lol
[06:24] <piecemaker> HACKED!@
[06:24] <KacoDCC> lol is this a hacking club or an ubuntu channel? :)
[06:24] <[|][|][|]> I guess no one here knows about DCC exploits.
[06:24] <KacoDCC> nobody cares
[06:25] <[|][|][|]> Not surprising
[06:25] <rhizmoe> yeah, we're dumb like that. totally new to irc.
[06:25] <KacoDCC> it might be worth to hack to a bank ... not some guy with ubuntu on irc
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> yea. only been ircing since college..
[06:25] <nocturnal_> ...
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> time to gt back to topic..
[06:26] <[|][|][|]> Anywho
[06:26] <KacoDCC> :)
[06:26]  * KacoDCC client restart, brb
[06:26] <rhizmoe> i've got a font problem in unity2d (and 3, i think): http://i.imgur.com/y0cXZ.png ...cyan halo on the top line
[06:27] <KacoDCC> ok since most IRC clients are paranoid about CTCP, I've added such feature to my IRC as well ... it will scream on CTCP :)
[06:27] <slikts> things that don't work well in this os: alt-tab
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> alt tab seems to work fine for me..
[06:28] <slikts> often I can't alt-tab from chrome/chromium, and the target app just shakes the icon in the dock
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> thers always the super+# method to change apps also
[06:28] <slikts> Dr_Willis: just… no
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> !details
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> i did see an issue in beta where chromium having several windows open . would only have one recognized by the unity panel
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> havent noticed that since release
[06:30] <slikts> other things that don't work: rearranging dock. I click and hold a dock icon, and nothing happens
[06:30] <slikts> one more annoyance: when showing desktop and then restoring, all windows get maximized
[06:30] <slikts> quality assurance process for unity is probably called "wishful thinking"
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> slikts:  cant say that i can recreate the problems. anyone else confirm or deny the same issues?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> rants are for other channels. if you want actual support then  act accordingly
[06:31] <slikts> Dr_Willis: good for you
[06:31] <Ormie> Through my experience today, you shouldn't mess with compiz.
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  ;) you break things playing wwith ccsm?
[06:31] <Ormie> yeah
[06:31] <slikts> Dr_Willis: maybe I could look for support, but I need to debug why X process is hogging my CPU
[06:32] <slikts> I have a fast cpu, so it can't be normal that X stays at 10% and often goes to 30-40
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> slikts:  theres been bug reports about X and nvidfia drivers sucking down cpu. ive seen it on my own system. latest batch of updates seems to have fixed it here. but  i havent   been at the pc to test it much this week
[06:33] <slikts> Dr_Willis: I have intel gpu
[06:33] <Ormie> Dr_Willis, now the water effects sticks with my cursor all the time!
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> seen 1 core get 50% ussed in spikes for some reason by X. a restart of the X server fix's it. for a few hours.
[06:34] <slikts> X has now used 80 hrs of cpu time for me in one week
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  ;) i think theres a key combo to toggle that
[06:34] <testi> I have the impression that unity uses the CPU for calculating transparency, slowing down the user-experience . In the old compiz days transparency was calculated on the GPU, so I wonder what's actually going wrong now: I grab a window move it around and while moving I press the Super-Key until the dash help appears. It then looks like as if the dash helps from time to time updates the underlying content, but extremely slow. It actually remin
[06:34] <testi> ds me of the fake-transparency of for example Eterm. I doubt the textures join on GPU I think they are composited earlier. Anyone knows?
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  now you know why theres been discussion of removeing ccsm ;)
[06:34] <Guest28028> Dr_Willis: mine mapped to 4-S-q
[06:35] <slikts> I try to have a conservative setup, using compiz etc, but there's still tons of problems, sometimes introduced by updates
[06:35] <slikts> err, not using compiz but unity 2d
[06:35] <Ormie> Dr_Willis, Now I messed with it and, unity is gone :(
[06:36] <slikts> like one day window resizing just getting broken, the resize grip areas being 1px wide
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  some of the 'tweak' tools had options/buttons to reset gnome/unity/compiz back to defaults. theres commands to do it also
[06:36] <curiousx> Ormie: unity --reset
[06:36] <slikts> there is no way I could recommend ubuntu to nontechnical users after this
[06:36] <slikts> maybe 10.10
[06:37] <slikts> or whichever was the LTS release before unity
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  i recall the webupd8 site having 33 commands in a posting that reset gnome, unity, and compiz
[06:37] <rhizmoe> i just upgraded to 12.04 from 10.10 24hrs ago
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> slikts:  again.. rants are ot for here.
[06:38] <slikts> Dr_Willis: no wonder
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> yes.. we do wonder...
[06:39] <slikts> eh? I mean no wonder you don't want rants, since an os this broken makes people rant a lot
[06:39] <pavel_> slikts: :)
[06:39] <Ormie> Setting Update "run_key" and nothing happens?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> we wonder why the idea of 'this  is a support channel not a ranting channel' is so hard to understand..
[06:39] <pavel_> slikts: I admit you're right
[06:39] <slikts> Dr_Willis: I understand it, but just don't care
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> take it to the ot chsnnel if you dont care.
[06:40] <slikts> it's not like you're going to fix the os even if I provide details etc
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> you would just find somthing else to complain about.
[06:40] <slikts> good one
[06:40] <Ormie> u know what, i think i broke the system again.
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  what do you mean run-key?
[06:40] <slikts> dismiss my problems as personal
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> Ormie: you bad boy.
[06:40] <GekiritZ> piecemaker: Alright... now... rebooting
[06:40] <Ormie> Dr_Willis, No
[06:41] <GekiritZ> piecemaker: triplechecked as much as I can... Just hoping it will work now
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  you could reset all your user settings. but thats a bit extreme
[06:41] <GekiritZ> piecemaker: We have liftoff!!!
[06:41] <Ormie> Dr_Willis, It says "Setting Update "run_key" and nothing happens
[06:41] <slikts> what is the unity launcher doing that it takes so long to show?
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  what did you do that said that?
[06:41] <Ormie> unity --reset
[06:42] <Ormie> while on unity
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  did the panel flash then close then comeback?
[06:42] <vadimkolchev> hi all. got a problem with sound. I've got acer aspire one and my microphone is not capturing anything. In sound preferences it is greyed out. What can be done about that?
[06:42] <Ormie> yes
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  that command will not reset compiz however.
[06:42] <Ormie> ?
[06:42] <Ormie> where is my woobly windows?
[06:43] <slikts> wobbly windows is luxury I've given up on long ago >>
[06:43] <Ormie> lol
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> wobbly windows made my wife puke.
[06:44] <slikts> your wife is bugged
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[06:44] <slikts> if it was possible, I'd have wobbly everything
[06:45] <Ormie> CTRL+ALT+Backspace?
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> shows the 3 commands to totally reset unity, compiz and gnome i belive
[06:45] <toafan_> is "the list of changes is not available, please use launchpad" on the update manager just me, or is it a bug?
[06:46] <vadimkolchev> hi all. got no input in sound preferences, therefore my laptop microphone is not working. Can anyone help me with that?
[06:47] <Ormie> I hate blur windows in compiz.
[06:48] <Quackmac3000> hey, this is teh support chat for ubuntu, yes?
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> i find the trend in having transparent effects/windows/dialogs - makes things less readabvle for me.
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> looke like theres somthing on the screen.. oh wait. its the image under the  dialog box showing through..
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  you got the system back to sanity?
[06:49] <Ormie> Dr_Willis, yes. and I am messing with compiz again.
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  and now ya know how to reset it. ;)
[06:50] <Ormie> yeah.
[06:50] <Batshua> Hey guys?
[06:50] <Batshua> I'm using xfce. Where do I find the flash settings?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  neat trickis to use the window-placement plugin to set dialogs like the file copy  box to be 'always on top' ;)
[06:51] <Ormie> Dr_Willis, My computer was usable enough when after I did "unity --reset" so I enable CTRL+ALT+Backspace. That's the way out :D
[06:51] <Ormie> ?
[06:51] <slikts> why don't you use unity 2d?
[06:51] <slikts> compiz is problematic
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> unity2d is getting phased out in the  next reelease i belive.
[06:52] <slikts> well, fuck
[06:52] <Chuck_Norris> why don't use gnome shell :D
[06:52] <slikts> I guess that's the last straw for switching
[06:52] <slikts> no way I'm going back to compiz
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> i belive there was some keynotes/summary of whats to be 'done' in 12.10 somewherre i saw that mentoned.
[06:54] <Quackmac3000> could you guys help me out? i need to format an encrypted drive on a computer i lost administrative privilages too
[06:54] <Ormie> Dr_Willis, I enabled the desktop cube effect and when I go to workspace switcher I get desktop wall instead. Where can I see desktop cube
[06:54] <Quackmac3000> nightmare situation here
[06:54] <ehmatthes> Can anyone help troubleshoot a networking issue?  I'm trying to telnet using port 5000 (telnet rendezvous.heroku.com 5000), but I get a 'no route to host' error.
[06:54] <slikts> Dr_Willis: google says that 2d is going away in 12.10 as well
[06:55] <SolarisBoy> ehmatthes: is port 5000 listening or is their a firewall on that host?
[06:55] <slikts> this makes me sad, there is no place for people like me who like docks and linux
[06:55] <Chuck_Norris> Quackmac3000: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX
[06:55] <Batshua> Quackmac3000: I'm not sure that's fixable without using a LiveCD and wiping everything?
[06:55] <Batshua> Or… Chuck_Norris might know something I don't.
[06:55] <Chuck_Norris> maybe :D
[06:55] <Quackmac3000> I WANT to wipe it, i dont care about anything on the drive
[06:55] <Chuck_Norris> xD
[06:55] <slikts> linux world is dominated by non-dock troglodytes
[06:56] <SolarisBoy> lol
[06:56] <ehmatthes> SolarisBoy: I disabled the firewall on my modem, if that answers your question.
[06:56] <Quackmac3000> i just want to boot another system and be done with this
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/05/ubuntu-developer-summit-keynote
[06:56] <SolarisBoy> ehmatthes: no route to host on a port connection is common of the port not being up or a reponse from a firewall
[06:56] <SolarisBoy> if you can ping it , its likely not a route thing
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Ormie: the cube and unity are known to conflict with each other. ;)
[06:57] <pidgin-surabaya> how to connect my pidgin to this channel ??
[06:57] <SolarisBoy> pidgin-surabaya: add your irc account to pidgin
[06:57] <Quackmac3000> I need a way to do it with a usb flash drive, too, because im useing netbooks
[06:57] <ehmatthes> SolarisBoy: Can you suggest any settings to adjust on my modem?  I have poked around in the modem interface, googled, with no results.  I called the ISP, and they are not blocking any ports.
[06:58] <SolarisBoy> ehmatthes: can you confirm port 5000 is actually listening?
[06:58] <Chuck_Norris> Quackmac3000: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[06:58] <Quackmac3000> what do i do, just boot up again?
[06:58] <Ormie> Dr_Willis, you mean the whole "unity" is conflict with cube?
[06:59] <ehmatthes> SolarisBoy: Is that a netstat command?
[06:59] <SolarisBoy> no
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  enabling cube can break unity
[06:59] <slikts> Ormie: why do you hate yourself? trying to use those features can just cause pain >>
[06:59] <Chuck_Norris> in these link, there is a tutorial for installing ubuntu into the usb flash drive
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  the webupd8 or omgubuntu blog site has a guide on using the cube in unity. if you  want to experiment
[07:01] <Quackmac3000> i know how too install linux, what i need to know is wither or not that will format a encrypted harddrive.
[07:01] <Batshua> I have no idea, I have never tried.
[07:01] <Batshua> It's worth a shot?
[07:02] <Chuck_Norris> Quackmac3000: try it, i solved it one time with an HP notebook that has some recovery partitioins that's don't let me install ubuntu on it
[07:02] <Chuck_Norris> i solve it with: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX
[07:03] <Quackmac3000> earlier today i started useing ubuntu. i made myself sole admin, and i encrypted the harddrive.
[07:03] <Quackmac3000> i locked myself out by deleteing my password
[07:04] <Quackmac3000> and now i cant do anything with the damn thing. i tried loading another distro and it didnt work.
[07:04] <Chuck_Norris> with a live cd and the partition that you wanna to format unmounted, there is no admins previlegies
[07:05] <Chuck_Norris> privileges* =P
[07:05] <Quackmac3000> well, i know that. i only mention that as the reason for me doing this in the first place.
[07:05] <slikts> also, what happens to computers without hw acceleration if unity 2d is removed? that means virtual machines, for instance
[07:05] <Chuck_Norris> well, a flash usb live i meant
[07:05] <ehmatthes> SolarisBoy: Sorry, how do I check if port 5000 is actually listening?  btw, I took my laptop to work today, and I could run this command on that network.  So I don't think it's my computer, I think it's my modem.
[07:06] <question> Hello, I need help hardening my ubuntu install.
 ehmatthes, $ netstat -an | grep 5000
[07:09] <Ormie> I promise (or even swear) you guys I will Never use compiz again. It made my system unstable.
[07:10] <reisio> Ormie: nonsense
[07:10] <reisio> it might have made your window management unstable
[07:10] <Ormie> Now I have to do fresh install :(
[07:10] <reisio> uh, no, no you don't
[07:10] <Ormie> ?
[07:10] <reisio> fresh installs are for closed source OSes
[07:10] <Ormie> ?
[07:10] <ehmatthes> SolarisBoy, SoniQ: I get nothing from that command. The only change I've made is connecting to my home network instead of work network.  Does that change what is listening?
[07:13] <Ormie> hey, i um... i think ubuntu should make the built-in version upgrade system better, though.
[07:15] <swattor> hi all
[07:16] <swattor> i just got a fresh bunch of updates from -proposed - and it's saying that there are untrusted packages in there :-/
[07:16] <reisio> swattor: what version of Ubuntu?
[07:17] <reisio> Ormie: lot of room for improvement
[07:17] <swattor> reisio: 12.04
[07:17] <Ormie> ?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> given how old the apt system is.. its amazing in how well it works.
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> packagte mangement is an amazingly complex task :)
[07:21] <jernej> does anyone here use gitolite on ubuntu ?
[07:22] <neo1691> Hey guys, i have installed ccsm but the changes that i do in that have no effect on ubuntu and also when i click on myunity it says Your Ubuntu 12.04 is running in 2D mode.
[07:24] <slikts> apt system doesn't work well since it doesn't allow local packages
[07:25] <slikts> it also makes packaging too complex, and you can't easily have multiple versions of packages
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> neo1691:  that makes sence.. unity2d does not use compiz
[07:25] <neo1691> Dr_Willis, how to switch to 3d then?
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> neo1691:  at the login screen there should be a unity/ubuntu and  a unity2d item in the menu. assuming you have your proper 3d drivers installed it should be that simple
[07:27] <neo1691> Dr_Willis, There are two options ubuntu an ubuntu2D, but i always log in using ubuntu, not ubuntu2d
[07:27] <Jon--> Since moving to Ubuntu 12.04 with gnome-session-fallback, I have no battery indicator in the notification area. How can I fix this?
[07:28] <Jon--> I am running on battery power at the moment.
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> neo1691:  its kicking into 2d mode - most likely because you dont have your video drivers set upo right.
[07:29] <proy> I have two identical systems with mdadm raid5, both having 4 x 2TB disks. One the second system RAID5 goes for a resync often when the machine reboots. Any idea what could be the reason. using 12.04
[07:29] <fasta> Is there some firewall builder tool which is just as easy to use and featured as Windows Firewall?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> !firewall
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> featuresets will be differnet - because thee 2 os's handle firewalling in very differnt ways.
[07:30] <neo1691> Dr_Willis, Should i use the nvidia X driver?
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> neo1691:  if you have an nvidia card.. yes.
[07:30] <neo1691> I do have an nvidia 2gigs geforce card
[07:31] <StarryNight> me 2
[07:31] <Jon--> Since moving to Ubuntu 12.04 with gnome-session-fallback, I have no battery indicator in the notification area. How can I fix this?
[07:32] <fasta> Dr_Willis: how can I use custom paths for the programs to block in the firewall?
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> Jon--:  ive seen alternative battery/power indicator applets at the askubuntu.com site in their 'list of indicator applets' posting. but i dont  use  the fallback mode. so no idea what ones work in it
[07:32] <fasta> Dr_Willis: that's something Windows firewall can do and apparently gufw cannot.
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> fasta:  Huh?
[07:32] <Jon--> Dr_Willis, Fallback is gnome-classic-no-effects
[07:32] <fasta> Dr_Willis: trust me: what I said makes sense.
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> windows blocks on a per app basis i belive vs linux blocking on a port bassis. differnt ways of doing firewalling.. if i recll some firewalling guide i read ages ago.
[07:33] <fasta> Dr_Willis: so, you basically didn't answer my question?
[07:33] <Jon--> The default is fine, no idea why it's not there. The package for it is installed.
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> been ages sinve ive had to mess with firewalls in linux.   Linux blocks on ports.. windows blocks on per app. is about all i recall from what i read 3+ yrs ago
[07:34] <fasta> Dr_Willis: so, next time, do not answer.
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> fasta:  grow up.
[07:34] <fasta> Dr_Willis: If you were one of my machines that I trained in the lab to respond to user questions, I would think of you as a failed experiment.
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> again.. grow up..
[07:35] <fasta> Dr_Willis: learn to read, I'd say.
[07:35] <benjo> hi
[07:36] <Naemdar> So doing the 12.04 upgrade, *crosses fingers*
[07:36] <Jon--> fasta, Custom paths? You want to block based on a proc name?
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> hello benjo
[07:36] <fasta> Jon--: no, based on a path.
[07:36] <Jon--> Route?
[07:36] <benjo> hi Dr_Willis
[07:37] <fasta> Jon--: so, /foo/bar/baz is started, and then everything coming out of port 10230 for that program should be blocked.
[07:37] <Jon--> Or do you mean a path as in SMB?
[07:37] <fasta> Jon--: a path has had the same meaning since at least 20 years.
[07:38] <Jon--> fasta, Fix your problem yourself then smartass.
[07:38] <fasta> Jon--: you are the one asking stupid questions.
[07:38] <Jon--> fasta, I am the second person you have disrespected as they try to help you. You're clearly too arrogant for me to bother. Figure it out.
[07:39] <hbro> oh man, I take one look at this channel and already there's a flame war abrewing :p
[07:39] <fasta> Jon--: ignorant person, but yes.
[07:39] <abhilash> Does anybody know the solution for DNS DDoS attack?
[07:39] <abhilash> VERY URGENT
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> hbro:  its a slow day
[07:39] <fasta> abhilash: pay Amazon.
[07:39] <abhilash> PLEASE HELP ME
[07:39] <reisio> abhilash: reliable hosting
[07:39] <fasta> abhilash: or some other large company; for $100K you should be fine.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> abhilash:  we cant  without details. and its not clear on how this is ubuntu relateed.
[07:39] <reisio> doesn't take money, just simple countermeasures
[07:40] <hbro> abhilash: strict iptable rules?
[07:40] <proy> +1  Dr_Willis
[07:40] <hbro> Dr_Willis: true that, not quite ubuntu-related
[07:40] <abhilash> yeah.. Its a attack from chineese IP's
[07:40] <fasta> reisio: simple counter measures? Very doubtful.
[07:40] <OliverW> hbro, exactly... ask fasta about it... he's great with iptables :P
[07:40] <abhilash> getting PING drop frequently on the server
[07:40] <hbro> well now, I feel quite at home here
[07:40] <Ormie> abhilash, do you know how to DDOS?
[07:40] <fasta> OliverW: I read a few hundred pages of documentation on iptables.
[07:41] <hbro> too bad Linux helpdesk is not my job
[07:41] <abhilash> I used IP table rules, but its persistsing
[07:41] <fasta> OliverW: I know exactly how it works; I just think it is a broken system.
[07:41]  * Dr_Willis wonders how a dns ddos attack differs from other ddos atttcks
[07:41] <abhilash> its come from different IP's
[07:41] <Womkes> Hey, what would you guys recommend I use to mirror data on two servers? I currently have 1 server in a data center with vmware on it. But I have two identical servers at home I wish to replace my setup with. I would like to have a low-tech failover/mirror setup. I would like to use some kind of visualization technology like Xen or KVM. And I was thinking I want to use LVM volumes for the virtual machines and somehow keep the data in sync between se
[07:41] <Womkes> rvers. Would DRBD be a good solution for this? Please advise.
[07:41] <slikts> dns ddos floods port 53?
[07:41] <Jon--> fasta, iptables has a --pid-owner. Use that.
[07:41] <abhilash> thats why we can't prevent through IPTABLES
[07:41] <fasta> Jon--: that's not what I originally asked.
[07:41] <r3becca> does extundelete stand any chance of working on a ecryptfs encrypted home directory?
[07:42] <fasta> How hard can it be to just say 'No, Ubuntu is inferior to Windows 7 in this regard.'?
[07:42] <Jon--> Yes it is. You're a smart boy. Learn to grep ps aux for the pid on that port and learn iptables. Giving people like me attitude means we're not going to help you figure that out.
[07:42] <fasta> Or to say 'Use program X.'?
[07:42] <abhilash> slikts :: yes its 53
[07:42] <Jon--> Now you're just trolling.
[07:42] <Ormie> abhilash, PM
[07:42] <Bower^> i've just installed ubuntu. it's really nice but there's one problem. i keep receiving a notification that "wired network disconnected". does anyone know why this is? it happens quite frequently and the connection seems fine
[07:42] <fasta> Jon--: no, I am not trolling. You are spinning around the question.
[07:43] <reisio> it's pretty simple to block requests of a certain frequency and origin
[07:43] <slikts> I know nothing about preventing ddos, but I imagine there could be some adaptive firewall that automatically blocks abusing ips based on some heuristic
[07:43] <fasta> Jon--: it has a very definite answer. So far, Windows Firewall has been superior to any GUI tool presented to you from Ubuntu.
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> fasta: In some cases, Win7 is better, it's the nature of all software..
[07:43] <hbro> reisio: indeed
[07:43] <OliverW> fasta, I'm scrolling back a bit... you want to block a certain program on a certain outgoing port?
[07:43] <Jon--> fasta, Key words are "GUI tool". If you want GUI tools for networking tools and firewalling, go back to Windows.
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> abhilash:  theres those tools like fail2ban and otheres that can automatically setup filters
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> Jon--: what's wrong with firestarter?
[07:44] <fasta> ActionParsnip: now, if someone would just have said that right from the start, there wouldn't have a need for an annoying 'discussion'.
[07:44] <slikts> for all its faults, windows has many features more advanced than *nix, like ACLs, filesystem (ntfs) etc
[07:44] <reisio> not simple enough for Freenode staff, of course
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> fasta: tried firestarter as a GUI?
[07:44] <fasta> slikts: Linux also has ACLs.
[07:44] <slikts> fasta: you're an acl
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> fasta: or switch to ufw and use gufw....
[07:44] <Jon--> ActionParsnip, I have no experience with GUIs to iptables tbh. apparently ufw doesn't have an option to block on pid. I didn't confirm.
[07:44] <reisio> slikts: you just said ntfs is more advanced, so, your talking privileges have been revoked :p
[07:44] <reisio> hahhahah
[07:44] <slikts> reisio: ntfs is pretty advanced
[07:44] <hbro> ActionParsnip: +1
[07:45] <reisio> slikts: sure it is
[07:45] <reisio> just like slugs
[07:45] <fasta> slikts: it is also pretty slow.
[07:45] <fasta> slikts: it gets ass kicked on most benchmarks.
[07:45] <fasta> Jon--: I said that gufw has no such option.
[07:46] <fasta> Jon--: perhaps ufw does, but it still doesn't change the original statement.
[07:46] <slikts> I actually don't know what I'm talking about
[07:46] <reisio> slikts: that is shocking
[07:46] <fasta> Very
[07:46] <angs> how to check ABI version?
[07:46] <angs> what is the command for it
[07:46] <slikts> reisio: esp since you're in #ubuntu
[07:46] <Jon--> fasta, 1) enter #ubuntu 2) call people idiots for asking questions to clarify your question (by the way, referring to anything in the Unix world by its path, and then mocking us when we ask what you mean, does make you the idiot. It's all based on the proc id on Unix systems). 3) Continue to be arrogant to those trying to help you.  Yep, us free tech support guys are really going to be motivated to look into that problem fo
[07:46] <Jon--> r you.
[07:47] <reisio> slikts: especially
[07:47] <bkerensa> !offtopic | fasta
[07:47]  * Dr_Willis hands Jon--  some sootheing hot coco
[07:47] <Jon--> Thank you Sir
[07:47] <slikts> who wants to be slapped by a big trout
[07:47] <bkerensa> Alright lets calm it down a bit
[07:47] <Jon--> I'm not mad at all, I just find it entertaining.
[07:47] <fasta> Jon--: not really; anyone with the slightest intelligence would understand. Now, just accept that someone crushed your ego and live on.
[07:48] <Jon--> Obvious troll is obvious. +b please?
[07:48] <OliverW> fasta, you're dick
[07:48] <OliverW> *a
[07:48] <Corey> That's about enough.
[07:48] <reisio> being a dick isn't the same as being a troll
[07:48] <bkerensa> !coc | OliverW
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> !ufw
[07:48] <fasta> I just asked a question; I cannot help it that nobody can read.
[07:48]  * reisio contemplates a !spam
[07:48] <bkerensa> Lets please calm it down
[07:48] <angs> !abi
[07:48] <Corey> reisio: No need.
[07:48] <Corey> :-)
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> fasta: ^
[07:49] <Jon--> Am I the only one who can see he's purposely trolling the channel? Come on ops now, wake up...
[07:49] <reisio> Corey: not to notify ops, just to mock the spam their bot commands generate :p
[07:49] <hbro> bkerensa: +1
[07:49]  * sauvin notes wrily that mockery is often poorly appreciated
[07:49] <angs> does anyone know what is the command to check ABI version of my distribution?
[07:49] <fasta> ActionParsnip: guarddog isn't in my repositoty.
[07:50] <fasta> repository*
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> fasta: are you using kde?
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> angs:  clarify for me what ABI is..  its 4 am here.
[07:50] <fasta> ActionParsnip: I also use kde.
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> fasta: tried ufw?
[07:50] <reisio> sauvin: that's like the narrator describing his own delivery dude ;P
[07:50] <proy> angs: what is ABI ?
[07:50] <fasta> ActionParsnip: ufw seems to be more of a command line tool.
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> fasta: gufw exists....
[07:51] <fasta> ActionParsnip: but gufw doesn't allow custom paths to block programs.
[07:51] <fasta> ActionParsnip: like I explained 10 times now.
[07:51] <sauvin> Application Binary Interface, iirc. The "as-compiled" interfaces bewteen applications and the libraries they call or the underlying kernel.
[07:51] <Jon--> Does it allow you to specify a PID?
[07:51] <fasta> Jon--: do you even know what a PID is?
[07:51] <Jon--> Yes I do
[07:51] <Corey> fasta: That's about enough of the attitude, please.
[07:51] <fasta> Corey: I am getting spammed by noise.
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> Jon--: the pid may be different each time a process is spawned
[07:51] <NielsMkn> hey guys
[07:52] <NielsMkn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/PreciseJackDetectionTesting
[07:52] <NielsMkn> How do I try this out?
[07:52] <Jon--> I was going to suggest a script, but if it's killed the PID would change
[07:52] <Jon--> Probably not the best solution anyway.
[07:52] <Corey> Jon--: Eh, pgrep can work around that potentially.
[07:52] <fasta> Jon--: no, not the best solution. Please, just go idling or something.
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> fasta: does the process us it's own port or is it random?
[07:53] <Corey> Jon--: Alterately, you can reinvent the wheel with ps piped to awk or cut. :-)
[07:53] <fasta> ActionParsnip: it could be random.
[07:53] <hbro> seems the other side of the DDNS problem earlier is here
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> fasta: is it possible to make it static?
[07:54] <fasta> ActionParsnip: please don't try to change the problem.
[07:54] <fasta> ActionParsnip: I was semi-happy with the 'Windows 7 is better in this regard' answer.
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> fasta: but it makes sense to set it to some high port number and static then block that port, doesn't it..
[07:54] <fasta> ActionParsnip: no
[07:54] <NielsMkn> ActionParsnip, can you tell me how to get 3.2.0-11.19 kernel?
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> fasta: maybe but we are dealing with the issue in Ubuntu, this isn't a contest, it's dealing with the issue at hand
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> NielsMkn: you'll need the debs
[07:55] <fasta> ActionParsnip: it's really simple: if I ask a question, I want to have that question answered, not some question you or anyone happens to know the answer to.
[07:55] <NielsMkn> hmm, and will it work if I have a higher version already?
[07:56] <bkerensa> !attitude | fasta
[07:56] <Corey> fasta: Again, you might want to tone down your approach a smidgen.  We try t be a happier, friendly channel. :-)
[07:56] <fasta> ActionParsnip: if nobody knows the answer, fine.
[07:56] <ashankar> Hi all, running kubuntu 12.04, how do I install debug packages for /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 (owned by libkdeui5) and /usr/lib/libkcmutils.so.4 (owned bykdelibs5-dev ) ?
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> fasta: then I have no other suggestions. I have given a possible solution which is quite simple. Your call
[07:56] <NielsMkn> ActionParsnip, this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/PreciseJackDetectionTesting says that audio detection is available for that kernel version. Will the detection be there for higher versions as well?
[07:56] <fasta> ActionParsnip: well, then thanks for trying, but just saying 'I don't know' would have been better for my needs.
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> fasta: why, it doesn't solve the issue. I gave a solution which will work
[07:58] <fasta> ActionParsnip: no, it doesn't.
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> NielsMkn: Precise has a later kernel than you said, is it not in that too?
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> fasta: why won't it work?
[07:59] <fasta> ActionParsnip: because it was a random port, remember?
[07:59] <fasta> Also, Jon-- starts to spam me with" I can't believe none of the ops can see you're trolling. Pretty fucking obvious. You're either a windows fanboy or you run another distro with a distaste for Ubuntu. Either way, don't waste the time of those here to help people. It's classless.
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> 08:54 < ActionParsnip> fasta: is it possible to make it static?
[08:00] <Jon--> That was a whisper
[08:00] <NielsMkn> no idea ActionParsnip, but jack detection doesn't work as of now.
[08:00] <fasta> No, Jon--: you are an ignorant clueless person. Please just accept that you are.
[08:00] <Jon--> I didn't say it in here because the language is inappropriate.
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> fasta: make it a static port, then block that
[08:00] <Agrajag-> hi, after installing 12.04, my monitor goes to "no signal" shortly after grub (way before X though). i can get it to work by adding "nomodeset" to the kernel params but then the nouveau driver doesn't work because nomodeset disables KMS. i'm not entirely sure what's going on here, how do i get it to work without nomodeset?
[08:00] <fasta> ActionParsnip: that would involve modifying the program.
[08:00] <Corey> That's enough of that.
[08:00] <Womkes> Was it a careless whipser Jon--  ?
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> fasta: is there not a setting for the app?
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> fasta: what app are you trying to block?
[08:02] <hbro> fasta: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/120 ?
[08:03] <hbro> the "owner" module of iptables has a --pid-id argument
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> been readin g some neat info at --    http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/15476/configure-linux-to-allow-network-activity-based-on-binary
[08:03] <hbro> Dr_Willis: looks interesting from the url alone
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> fasta: what app / service is it please?
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> hbro:  goes into details and sort of explains   where i got the 'windows and linux approach firewalling from differnt directions' idea
[08:05] <r3becca> does extundelete stand any chance of working on a ecryptfs encrypted home directory?
[08:06] <hbro> Dr_Willis: interesting conclusion too
[08:06] <hbro> "Unix is based on user-ID: if you want security isolation, use a different UID. This resource is cheap."
[08:06] <hbro> best solution anyways
[08:08] <hbro> r3becca: http://gimi.name/snippets/undelete-ecryptfs-encrypted-files/ ?
[08:08] <hbro> no personal experience though
[08:08] <stueng> whats the offf topic channel please?
[08:09] <DJones> !ot | stueng
[08:09] <stueng> ty
[08:09] <NielsMkn> btw pulseaudio 2 is awesome :D
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> 2x better then pulse audio?
[08:11] <r3becca> hbro: cool link, thanks! :D
[08:11] <hbro> r3becca: quick google did the trick ;)
[08:11] <daze> I set my default video player to GNOME Mplayer in Ubuntu 12.04 All Settings -> Details -> Default Applications.  Nothing happens. Mplayer is still the default :/
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> daze: gnome-mplayer is just a GUI for mplayer, it achieves the same thing surely.
[08:12] <daze> yeah, but I like the gui better :)
[08:12] <daze> and some key bindings are different
[08:12] <Jon--> Since moving to Ubuntu 12.04 with gnome-session-fallback, I have no battery indicator in the notification area. How can I fix this? Last crack at getting a hand before bed
[08:13] <geirha> daze: You've likely overridden it on given filetypes
[08:13] <daze> and where are these set?
[08:13] <NielsMkn> Dr_Willis, not sure. But it does sort a lot of my problems :D
[08:14] <NielsMkn> ok gtg later
[08:14] <hbro> Jon--: right click -> add applet or something?
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> acutallyu isent it alt or ctrl right click now?
[08:15] <Jon--> hbro, the notification area is on the panel, no battery inside of it
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> i never use the fallback mode. its got some differances then the one gnome
[08:15] <hbro> Dr_Willis: not sure, using kde here
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> could be the battery is not seen. is why its not showing
[08:16] <Jon--> Dr_Willis, If you're familiar with gnome-classic, AFAIK they're nearly identical. Fallback disables compiz and enables metacity, that's about the only diff
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> Jon--: alt+shift+right click maybe what is needed, could just use xfce, its got the gnome2 smell
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> Jon--:  theres some little changes like the right click needing a metga key i recall seeing in here.
[08:16] <Jon--> It's <Suoer> + <alt> + right
[08:16] <Jon--> For classic on 12.04
[08:18] <Jon--> In any matter, the panel app that should have the battery is on the panel (notification area, unless I'm missing a different one?) and I have nothing.
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> !panel
[08:18] <Jon--> network status is there, for example
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> do the cli tools show the battery stgatus?
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> !fixpanel
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> status
[08:18] <Jon--> Dr_Willis, apci works fine
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> !panels
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> may help Jon-- ^
[08:18] <Jon--> Eh, whatever the cli is
[08:19] <Jon--> acpi**
[08:19] <Jon--> ActionParsnip, Did not fix the issue.
[08:19] <Jon--> Removed my xchat from there too :( I'll have to re add that manually now.
[08:21] <tiox> Some unusual news from the 3G front; I was able to trick my modem into being used in 12.04. And it's a dirty trick.
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> it reset the indicatop-applet/systray item ;)
[08:21] <Jon--> Oo, interesting.
[08:22] <tiox> I habe 12.04 and 11.10 on the same hard drive. zI first boot into the 11.10 installation, and I establish my 3G connection, blah blah blah, it works... well, except this time it didn't.
[08:22] <Jon--> there is an indicator-applet-complete that contains the battery. The regular indicator-applet (the default) does not.
[08:22] <tiox> But, whe I have "Mobile Brnadband Enabled" on, then I reboot and go into the 12.04 installation, something must either still be in memory, or in the hard disk (swap possibly) that tricks the selection to pop up in the Network manager there.
[08:23] <tiox> I enable it, I select my device, and I can use it.
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> tiox: can you pastebin the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsusb
[08:23] <tiox> I am too damn tired.
[08:24] <tiox> Maybe tomorrow.
[08:24] <hbro> tiox: dirty trick indeed
[08:24] <Jon--> Now the only issue I have with the panel is what I believe to be a glrx one. Panel transparency is not found in applets like menu, notification-area, indicator-applet, etc. Instead of getting settings from panel, they get it from the theme. And there is nothing in the gtkrc for the theme that I can see to fix it. :(
[08:25] <tiox> When i wake up, if somebody leaves a PM for me to do so, I'll do it.
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> tiox: we'll need the output to help. When you are ready we'll be here :D
[08:25] <tiox> That or it'll just come to mind.
[08:25] <hbro> sleep over it, that usually works for me
[08:25] <tiox> So, lsb-release -a, uname -a and lsusb huh?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> tiox: all 3, it's one command
[08:25] <Jon--> Gah, too many binary names in linux. Not glrx but... Something GNOME related, tired and failing at name.
[08:26] <Ormie> I think ubuntu should improve the version upgrade system. Burning CD/DVD is not a green solution
[08:27] <tiox> I have it in a notepad on WIndows, I will see it first thing.
[08:27] <Jon--> Ormie, USB is an option
[08:27] <DJones> Ormie: You don't need to burn a cd/dvd to upgrade, thats done over the internet, or you could use a live usb
[08:27] <tiox> Then Ill do it and paste the output to interested parties.
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: you can mount the ISO then run the upgrade there
[08:27] <Jon--> Ormie, And if you're referring to upgrading, there's always do-release-upgrade. Unless you are purposely clean installing.
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: a physical CD and an ISO are the same difference is Ubuntu...
[08:28] <Anomie21> I followed this guide here to try and find out if my server was sending out any spam. http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-log-emails-sent-with-phps-mail-function-to-detect-form-spam  -- I created the mailtest.php as suggested at the bottom of the guide but nothing appeared in my mail.log. Should using the same exact commands here work in Ubuntu 11.10?
[08:30] <Ormie> Jon--, Some BIOS doesn't support boot from USB
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: there uis a floppy image on pendrivelinux to boot to which will then boot USB
[08:31] <Ormie> ok
[08:31] <Jon--> Ormie, Burn one disk, install Ubuntu, turn it into a PXE server, keep it upgraded..... Just kidding ;). Your best bet is what ActionParsnip recommends.
[08:31] <Ormie> yeah
[08:31] <Ormie> ok
[08:32] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, You are a weird person (in a good way.)
[08:33] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, What do you do to get a wiki for yourself?
[08:33] <freddy__> Hi - I'm having problems with my ubuntuone. http://pastebin.com/V3Aj3BwZ
[08:35] <ikonia> freddy__: the $DISPLAY variable is not set
[08:35] <ikonia> freddy__: that normally happens when you issue the command using the root account, but it doesn't look like you are doing that here
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: access the page then click Edit to edit it and make it (if memory serves)
[08:36] <Ormie> that is so simple.
[08:36] <freddy__> ikonia: i have a ssh from another machine .. is that a problem ?
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: sorry, 'Create new empty page'
[08:36] <ikonia> freddy__: yes, I suspect that is the core issue
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: most things in Linxu are dude ;)
[08:36] <ikonia> freddy__: it needs a gui/wants an X11 environment
[08:36] <Ormie> ok
[08:37] <freddy__> ikonia: ok - I'll try from there and ask again a bit later ..
[08:37] <freddy__> thanx
[08:37] <ikonia> freddy__: also look at ssh -X
[08:38] <JoFo_> Hello
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> freddy__: or:  ssh -X -C username@host
[08:39] <freddy__> ActionParsnip: ok - thanx ... and in /etc/ssh/ssh_fig uncomment the Forwardx yes.. right ?
[08:39] <Ormie> I am going to build an app for ubuntu and show it in the app store, I know "quickly" is an option but I want to make a Command line user interface app. How?
[08:40] <Ormie> replace make to publish
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> freddy__: X forwarding is default enabled in Ubuntu
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> 'quickly' ?
[08:40] <JoFo_> Hello
[08:40] <JoFo_> How can I add support for KMFL on IBus? (Ubuntu Precise)
[08:40] <freddy__> ActionParsnip: ok - thanks
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> freddy__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028222/
[08:41] <hbro> ssh tunneling ftw
[08:42] <hbro> bye bye work proxy and fw restrictions
[08:42] <freddy__> ActionParsnip: ah ... yes :-)
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> i need to learn more tunneling fu skills and vpn basics. )
[08:43] <Ormie> Oh and I saw a spelling mistake in ubuntu website.
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> like if i set up openvpn on my ubuntu box. and set my android to use it. I go to McDonalds where they gor their wifi very blocked.. will it still get 'full' acccess to the internet via the vpn?
[08:44] <Kartagis> Ormie: where?
[08:44] <Ormie> Kartagis, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[08:44] <hbro> Dr_Willis: depends on your setup, but I'd imagine so
[08:44] <Ormie> Before you start the upgrade, we recommend that you read the release notes for Ubuntu 12.04, which which include workarounds for any problems you might encounter.
[08:44] <Kartagis> Dr_Willis: as long as you transfer DNS, yea
[08:44] <Ormie> "which which"
[08:45] <Ormie> why are there to which?
[08:45] <Ormie> 2
[08:45] <hbro> should start getting a more vpn-ish setup too, not just ssh tunneling
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> dns is not automatically transfered eh? or may be an option i guess..
[08:45] <freddy__> ubuntuone ... now I get this error, anyone have seen this before? http://pastebin.com/XYDjzysn
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> been looking at some of the proxy/btguard/vpn type tools and services out there.
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> seems like  a cheap way to gain some nice features and more security
[08:46] <JoFo_> In the software center I see scim-kmfl-imengine but I see no kmfl-imengine for IBus : http://colson.eu/Capture_du_2012-06-07_05:22:03.png . What could I do?
[08:47] <Kartagis> Ormie: yea, error
[08:47] <Ormie> yeah
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> so if you have pc1 set to use a VPN, can you still ssh to it via its ip#? or must you also connect to the vpn then ssh to it from pc2 ?
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> if both  are on the same lan.
[08:48] <Kartagis> Dr_Willis: http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html#redirect
[08:49] <Kartagis> Dr_Willis: you could also use ssh tunneling, that's what I am doing because of subnet restriction
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> vpn is just such a 'complex' new thing. im ued to the old skool stuff ;) hard to get a 'big picture' of how it works ;)
[08:49] <Kartagis> ssh -D and proxy
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> was going to get a comercial vpn for a month or 2 to play  with. then perhaps try openvpn.
[08:51] <taquter> Dr. Bruce WIllis.
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> gotta love reading sites wherre every other term is some  marketing buzzword that you are not clear on  the meaning. :) and wouldent add any value to the  information if you did know what it ment.
[08:58] <tiox3G> ActionParsnip: So I cannot sleep and did it anyway.
[08:58] <tiox3G> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1028243/
[08:58] <tiox3G> Is it such a problem when 12.04 was installed, that lsb-release was not installed?
[08:58] <tiox3G> Cannot seem to be found at all, according to the 12.04 terminal.
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: no need to become root, users can run the commands
[08:59] <Stopi> hi, got a strange issue with internet connection
[08:59] <tiox3G> And yes, I am on 12.04, using my 3G connection. When I disconnect and reconnected before it worked, but then when I physically disconnect it from USB I cannot get it back.
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: lsb_release   not lsb-release
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: there is a difference..
[08:59] <tiox3G> Fragging
[09:00] <Stopi> firefox get connection but not thunderbird (using same proxy settings)
[09:00] <slikts> does it happen for others too that if you use the Inspect function in Chrome or Chromium and then try to use Alt-Tab, the window doesn't change?
[09:00] <Stopi> any idea ?
[09:00] <legoff> Hello
[09:00] <slikts> at least in Unity 2D
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> jello legoff
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: is it an LG 3G device?
[09:01] <tiox3G> Yes.
[09:01] <tiox3G> Also, it's trhe same result as thre 11.10 output anyway; No LSB modules.
[09:02] <tiox3G> I'l; fix and re-post anyway.,
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G   search for vendor=0x1004   just need to change the product to: product=0x6141
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> i thought you had to give lsb_release -a  option to get all the info. :)
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> never seen it givve  any info without some option
[09:03] <tiox3G> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1028250/
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> i woild think there would be some default option  like -a by default. ;)  but im just an old neck-beard so what do i know.
[09:04] <tiox3G> ActionParsnip: Could I just like, use the Network Manager PPA and use latest trunk?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: its not network manager, its the driver module
[09:05] <tiox3G> Balls. Well alright, I'll see where I can find to change the stuff I need.
[09:08] <tiox3G> OKay ActionParsnip I am too tired to care.
[09:08] <tiox3G> Where exactly do I go to change the device info from 0x1004 to 0x6141?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: you will need a config file in /etc/modprobe.d
[09:10] <tiox3G> And how do I produce this file, if not already existent?
[09:11] <|ntegra|> tiox3G: hi what are you doing?
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: read the guide, it'll tell you everythng
[09:11] <freddy__> I would like to ask how to solve ubuntuone problem with one of my machines. nautilus hangs when using ubuntuone, and synching does not seem to happen.. its a 5 GB sync so it should take long but not SO long. It has taken weeks and is not done yet. I get many errors when using cli commands on it, fx: http://pastebin.com/XYDjzysn
[09:12] <tiox3G> ???
[09:12] <tiox3G> Ohm okay,.
[09:12] <djglobalbot> freddy__: install xfce4-notfiyd and add dbus to your daemon array and reboot
[09:12] <ikonia> freddy__: looks like it's hung as the connection has dropped
[09:13] <rosso> Last oneiric update seems to have broken the packages nginx-full and nginx-light: "The following packages have unmet dependencies:  nginx-full : Depends: nginx-common (= 1.2.0-1ppa1~oneiric) but 1.2.1-0ubuntu0ppa1~oneiric is to be installed
[09:13] <freddy__> djglobalbot: what is xfce4-notfiyd ?
[09:13] <auronandace> rosso: we don't support ppas here
[09:13] <djglobalbot> !give freddy__ xfce4
[09:13] <theadmin> rosso: You have PPAs in your system, which is not something we support. Third-party repos are unofficial and potentially dangerous.
[09:14] <theadmin> djglobalbot: The Ubottu "give" syntax is "!factoid | person"
[09:14] <theadmin> !xfce4 | freddy__
[09:14] <rosso> auronandace, theadmin ups - failed to recognize that. Cheers.
[09:14] <theadmin> Bah
[09:14] <theadmin> !xfce | freddy__
[09:14] <theadmin> There we have it.
[09:15] <theadmin> freddy__: xfce4-notifyd is a notification tool Xfce uses to inform users about various important events. Basically, tray popups.
[09:15] <freddy__> ubottu: yes ... but I have gnome and is satisfied with that ...
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> you are talking to a bot freddy__  ;)
[09:15] <freddy__> Dr_Willis: he he thanx ... not so smart :-)
[09:16] <theadmin> Is this the right place to ask a question about apt-fast? Guessing not, but...
[09:16] <jita> How can i capture a screenshot and publish it onto ubuntu one or imgur using gnome-screenshot ?
[09:16] <freddy__> ikonia: how do I find out why the connection drops ? I can go on internet with the thing all the time w/o problems ?
[09:17] <JoFo_> Could anybody help me to install ibus-xkb? (https://github.com/ibus/ibus-xkb)
[09:17] <theadmin> jita: Just hit Printscreen, save the file and upload it to the respective hosting.
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> !screenshot
[09:18] <jita> Can't it be automated ?
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> i dont have a printscr button on this keyboard.  :) android bluetooth
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> jita:  depends on the details.. thisis linux.. verythings possible
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: echo "options usbserial product=0x6141 vendor=0x1004" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/3g.conf > /dev/null
[09:18] <jita> Dr_Willis, I know shutter that can do, but i don't want to install new app for it
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: should do it
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: http://wiki.debian.org/Huawei/E220   should help, you may need the wvdial.conf define there too
[09:20] <tiox3G> If I lose connnection after the first series of commands, I'm just gonna give up until I get some sleep, lol
[09:21] <yenici> türkçe bilen birileri varmıdır
[09:22] <djglobalbot> !factoid ubuntu tiox3G
[09:24] <tiox3G> UHm ActionParsnip I don't have a wvdial.conf file in /etc.
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: yes, you may need to make it, you can make files in /etc you know
[09:26] <eutheria> is there a system load indicator for unity?
[09:26] <tiox3G> Well, I am going to see if this first thing worked. If it doesn't, then neh, I'll persue it lateert.
[09:26] <tiox3G> I'll nag you about nit to help me, ActionParsnip
[09:26] <tiox3G> And as you can see from my typing my lucidity is rather low,.
[09:27] <globalbot> !factoid wiki
[09:28] <globalbot> !factoid wiki Y_Ichiro
[09:28] <ikonia> globalbot: what are you doing ?
[09:28] <GNS3Talk> Gents, VNC is sluggish with Ubuntu 11.10 and 12.04! The refresh rate is horrible and it's nothing compared to Windows RDC. Is there an alternative to VNC that I could use on Ubuntu?
[09:28] <globalbot> GNS3Talk: is it on a ssh line?
[09:29] <GNS3Talk> globalbot: it's on my home network! no security envolved.
[09:29] <jetty> hello
[09:29] <hbro> GNS3Talk: TeamViewer, FreeNX, x11vnc?
[09:29] <theadmin> GNS3Talk: There's ssh, there's also TeamViewer (which is what I use, a great app, however it's closed-source (if that matters for you...))
[09:29] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: have you looked at the vnc settings and optimised your connections
[09:30] <globalbot> hmm thoughput shouldnt matter - allothough you 8should* not forward x unless on a tmux session
[09:30] <hbro> xrdp?
[09:30] <|ntegra|> teamviewer is good
[09:30] <globalbot> |ntegra|: its not.
[09:30] <|ntegra|> haha
[09:30] <hbro> GNS3Talk: http://www.mynitor.com/2010/02/07/15-remote-desktop-solutions-for-linux/
[09:30] <GNS3Talk> hbro: Isn't TeamViewer similar to LogMeIn? I tried x11vnc but it's no different to the built-in VNC server.
[09:30] <globalbot> tightvnc + ssh > teamviewer anyday
[09:30] <theadmin> Eh, there's no "good" or "bad" software (except IE, that's bad), matter of taste, that's all
[09:31] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: it's the built-in VNC server, there is not much setting I can do!
[09:31] <theadmin> GNS3Talk: Yeah, TeamViewer and LMI are somewhat similar, except TeamViewer is free for non-commercial use
[09:31] <hbro> what theadmin said
[09:31] <globalbot> so is tightvnc and ssh and its more secure.
[09:31] <hbro> also true
[09:31] <GNS3Talk> theadmin: But with such apps, your connection has to go through their website so latency will be an issue.
[09:31] <hbro> I'll shut up now, nothing much usefull to say :p
[09:31] <theadmin> GNS3Talk: It can work through LAN.
[09:32] <theadmin> GNS3Talk: (make sure to enable that on *both* sides, though)
[09:32] <GNS3Talk> theadmin: I will give it a go. Thanks!
[09:32] <globalbot> lol.
[09:33] <theadmin> GNS3Talk: On the other hand, if you just need terminal access, ssh is the best choice
[09:33] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: built in ?
[09:33] <madzik> hello is anyone here familiar with pjsip?
[09:34] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: the servers and clinets availavbe to ubuntu have many configuration options
[09:34] <eutheria> can i move an indicator to the far left on the top panel?
[09:34] <globalbot> you can.
[09:34] <eutheria> how? :)
[09:34] <globalbot> xrandr
[09:34] <GNS3Talk> theadmin: Yeah I've been using SSH, but sometimes GUI is easier to use.
[09:34] <ikonia> globalbot: stop it
[09:34] <theadmin> eutheria: Unity's panels aren't really configurable. If you're on an older Ubuntu version, though (with GNOME 2), sure -- just right-click it and choose "Move".
[09:34] <ikonia> globalbot: he does not need xrandr to change a desktop pannel
[09:35] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: Are you referring to the built-in VNC server or the x11vnc?
[09:35] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: what built in vnc server ?
[09:35] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: you install the vnc server
[09:35] <eutheria> theadmin, oh :) i was trying to make unity more like how things used to be just with the extra screen you get
[09:35] <theadmin> ikonia: Ubuntu comes (or used to come) with a built-in VNC server which could be enabled or disabled through "Remote Access" in the Preferences menu.
[09:35] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: There is an option in12.04 called Desktop sharing!
[09:35] <eutheria> i don't like that dashboard thingy overlay andf the side panel
[09:35] <ikonia> ahhh the desktop sharing thing, ok, that makes more sense
[09:35] <eutheria> i am happy with just the top bar :)
[09:35] <globalbot> oh. man. aptitufe in stall tightcnv
[09:36] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: I'm sure there will be a config option for that, in truth I've never really used it, or had a problem with it so don't know
[09:36] <Applesouce> Hey I have a question, is it possible to stream my Wifi to my Mobile Devices via Ubuntu?
[09:37] <Applesouce> Like when my Android teathers his mobile connection to my Laptop, just in the other way
[09:37] <ikonia> Applesouce: do you mean share the connection with your mobile device ?
[09:37] <Applesouce> Yes
[09:37] <ikonia> !ics | Applesouce
[09:37] <globalbot> bridge.
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> Applesouce:  streaming audio/video  to a android on the network is easy
[09:37] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: That's not what he wants, lol, he wants to share the internet connection
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> Applesouce:  teatheringis getting acces to the internet through the other device
[09:37] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: The configurations are minimum compared to x11vnc but both applications weren't really responsive even in a gigabit point to point connection!
[09:37] <globalbot> bridge.
[09:38] <theadmin> globalbot: Stop already.
[09:38] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: that is quite concerning
[09:38] <Applesouce> Yes Yes I know, I want to share the internet connection of my xubuntu Notebook
[09:38] <ikonia> Applesouce: check out the link ubottu sent you
[09:38] <globalbot> yes, i forget i hit the arrow up button my mistake, sometimes i thnk people miss it for some reason.
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> Applesouce:  what has internet? the pc or the phone?
[09:38] <Applesouce> yes I'm now, I just wanted to make clear that I don't want media streaming xD
[09:38] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: a good question
[09:39] <ikonia> I may have jumped the gun in my understanding
[09:39] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: I tried it on different hardware with all the apps up to date, but it was exactly the same!
[09:39] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: what client are you using ?
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> android phones cant do ad-hoc as far as i know.
[09:39] <GNS3Talk> I'm installing teamviewer now, so we will see how it goes.
[09:39] <Applesouce> Dr_Willis: My Notebook is plugged into the wall and I want to share the Connection with my iPad and Galaxy Nexus
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> Applesouce:  easy solution - get a cheap wifi router
[09:39] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: On my Mac OS X, I'm using ChickenVNC.
[09:39] <dreamer000> Dr_Willis: they can.
[09:40] <dreamer000> Dr_Willis: but as I saw only rooted...
[09:40] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: silly question but do you have the the mac remote desktop application client ?
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> dreamer000:  i never could.  but that may be because my phone is a year+ old
[09:40] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: or grab "tight vnc"
[09:40] <globalbot> brb.
[09:40] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: I will give it a go in a sec. BRB.
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[09:40] <fasta> Where is the /etc/inittab file on Ubuntu?
[09:40] <theadmin> !upstart | fasta
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> !sysv
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> dont think there is a /etc/inittab since we are using upstart
[09:41] <Applesouce> Dr_Willis: Damn I have a Wifi Router, at the moment I'm on Wifi with all my devices, and no it wasn't cheap. When I'm somewhere else I've got no Wifi Router so .... please just answer my questions and don't bring solutions like that if you don't know the situation
[09:41] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: There isn't indeed
[09:42] <fasta> theadmin: I searched for getty and inittab on that page, but it didn't return anything useful in the faq.
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> Applesouce:  as i mentioned not all android phones can do adhoc networking. so you would need to somehow set up as a router/ics with  the dhcp server  and so forth.
[09:42] <theadmin> fasta: Explore the Upstart configurations under /etc/init to see how that's handled. Runlevels are configured in the .conf files there.
[09:42] <theadmin> Err, /etc/init/
[09:43] <Applesouce> Dr_Willis: I've also said, that I want to stream to my iPad
[09:43] <theadmin> Applesouce: "stream" isn't valid for internet connection really, you're confusing people... "Tether" at least.
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> Applesouce:  youare usign thaat term stream again.. when you mean  share the internet./. you set the pc as a router. andwifi  devices connect to it. as if it was a router
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> teather is a special sort of connection.  not quiet the same.
[09:44] <fasta> theadmin: why didn't they switch to systemd?
[09:44] <Applesouce> Dr_Willis: I'm sorry that I'm not an american, I do the best I can here
[09:44] <fasta> theadmin: that's even faster, AFAIK.
[09:44] <theadmin> fasta: I dunno, yeah systemd is great, I think you can set it up on Ubuntu, but well
[09:44] <fasta> theadmin: it's not some evil conspiracy?
[09:45] <fasta> theadmin: (that was a joke.)
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> i saw some articals on why no sysremd yet..  i think in short. they dident want to switch away from upstart so quickly
[09:45] <globalbot> ok folks i would just like to extend my tanks for allowing me to sit here for the past 30 minutes - GoodNight.
[09:45] <globalbot> err s/tanks/tahnks
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> and systemd had some other requirements
[09:46] <theadmin> fasta: Isn't the whole Linux world nowadays an evil conspirancy? Unity, Gnome 3... All that drives people insane from what I see >.<
[09:46] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[09:46] <globalbot> s/tahnks/thanks
[09:46] <globalbot> care take care all
[09:46] <theadmin> globalbot: We get it :p
[09:46] <fasta> theadmin: yeah, that's why I use kde4.
[09:46] <theadmin> fasta: Heh, decent choice :)
[09:46] <fasta> theadmin: kde4.8 is awesome.
[09:46] <ashankar> unity is coming along nicely. kde is good right now
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> LXDE :)
[09:46] <fasta> theadmin: when you say something I hear it via my speakers.
[09:47] <curiousx> gnome shell :D
[09:47] <fasta> theadmin: now, I only need something to turn speech into text.
[09:47] <ashankar> i used kde until it hit kde 4.0 - that was terrible. then switched to ubuntu gnome, now switched again to kde.
[09:47] <ashankar> but ubuntu unity 12.04 is pretty good :)
[09:48] <Chuck_Norris> i used KDE 3.5 on BT 4 :D
[09:49] <dreamer000> I think about kicking network manager and use gnome-ppp and wicd instead :(
[09:49] <Chuck_Norris> this was mah BT 4 http://img61.xooimage.com/files/d/6/a/matrix-2673d92.png :D
[09:49] <hbro> awesome-wm ?
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Chuck_Norris: I had that back onMandrake :)
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> on Mandrake, bad spacebar
[09:50] <Chuck_Norris> ActionParsnip: cool :D i use to love Kwin :D
[09:50] <theadmin> Offtopic much?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> half
[09:55] <hohooho> ciao
[09:55] <freddy__> ubuntuone is not working on one of my machines - u1sdtool -c gives this:http://pastebin.com/gGEP8G89 but it never seems to start ... can anyone help with this - the other machine I have is working nicely ..
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> there is the  #ubuntuone channel freddy__  they should know more then in here.
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> or was it #ubuntu-one
[10:03] <Chillance> ok, so my win7 machine is connected to work through VPN. however, I cant access it from this machine using rdesktop. if I disconnect the other PC from the VPN, I can connect to it. What should I do?
[10:08] <Kartagis> Chillance: tell VPN to transfer YOUR DNS
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> Chillance: can you ping the server?
[10:12] <nimesh_accenture> what is the fourcc format of framebuffer?
[10:15] <raquel> Hola
[10:15] <curiousx> hola
[10:15] <curiousx> !es | raquel
[10:15] <raquel> ¿Cómo puedo instalar Ares en Guadalinex?
[10:16] <Chuck_Norris> raquel: con wine, primero tenes que instala wine despues hacele doble click al .exe del ares y se instalara: http://i.imgur.com/bIHdh.png
[10:16] <Dr_Willis> that dosent nake sncse  about the framebuffer
[10:18] <RIMAL> +
[10:18] <RIMAL> hi
[10:20] <RIMAL> ~!@#$%^&*(
[10:21] <daze> what about defragmentation in Ubuntu?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> daze: no need for journalized file systems
[10:22] <Chuck_Norris> daze: it's dosn't needed
[10:22] <daze> oh, ok. thanks :]
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> daze: or do you mean defrag FAT32 etc?
[10:22] <daze> will read about journaling
[10:22] <daze> nope, ext4
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> then it's not needed ever :)
[10:22] <daze> good :]
[10:22] <llutz> daze: in e2fsprogs is /usr/sbin/e4defrag
[10:23] <Naemdar> Hours to unpack the 12.04 upgrade?
[10:23] <Naemdar> This is the strangest upgrade process I have ever seen.
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Naemdar: how do you mean 'unpack'?
[10:23] <Chuck_Norris> Naemdar: ye depend on the internet conection as well, that's the reason why i just do a clean install
[10:23] <Naemdar> its on the installing the update phase
[10:24] <Naemdar> Granted a bulldozer processor isn't the most efficient thing on the planet but its not that slow
[10:25] <Chuck_Norris> Naemdar: are you upgrading at 12.04?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Naemdar: depends on PC spec and the drive the OS is installed to
[10:25] <Naemdar> yea
[10:25] <Naemdar> its a 4 core 4.2 gig am3+ with 16 gigs of ram
[10:25] <largerthanlife> hi
[10:26] <reisio> hi
[10:26] <largerthanlife> I need to run a commands at startup and shutdown, how should I do this?
[10:26] <reisio> largerthanlife: why do you need to
[10:26] <largerthanlife> command*
[10:26] <Naemdar> it is 2 gigs or so worth of binaries so I guess it could take a while lol
[10:26] <DarkSim> If someone wants to spend a good amount of time with me, I'm cheap for the hour
[10:26] <DarkSim> nah kidding, I have problems with WINE, Steam and Dota 2. Would appreciate some help
[10:27] <largerthanlife> reisio: they need to some information out on the INternet
[10:27] <reisio> DarkSim: 'Wine'
[10:27] <largerthanlife> send*
[10:27] <DarkSim> Something wrong?
[10:27] <Chuck_Norris> DarkSim: did you try POL?
[10:28] <DarkSim> Nope
[10:28] <DarkSim> afaik it doesn't support Dota 2 either
[10:28] <Chuck_Norris> you should
[10:28] <Anomie21> Is it possible to run redsnow on ubuntu
[10:28] <Chillance> ActionParsnip, I have it here at home in the LAN, so yes
[10:29] <Chuck_Norris> idk about dota but... POL config and install all dependences needed for a particular app or games, otherwise you have to know the dependences and config
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> Anomie21  what's redsnow?
[10:29] <DarkSim> I found a guide on WineHQ
[10:29] <Naemdar> Does the updater dl the whole os or just the files it needs to change?
[10:29] <DarkSim> but I was unable to follow it fully
[10:29] <Anomie21> DarkSim: A tool used for jailbreaking iPhones
[10:30] <DarkSim> BlackRain?
[10:30] <largerthanlife> ActionParsnip: is away i guess
[10:30] <largerthanlife> :(
[10:30] <Anomie21> DarkSim: Isnt that a scam?
[10:31] <DarkSim> I dunno, I don't support Apple
[10:31] <DarkSim> That's the only jailbreak thing I know of though
[10:31] <Anomie21> o.0
[10:31] <shape> Hello, I have windows 7 installed alongside ubuntu and yesterday it booted from grub perfectly. And today, after some updates, I select it at boot and it won't load. It returns back to grub. I tried updating and reinstalling grub from ubuntu and even tried the windows startup recovery disk which detected no problems. I am out of ideas :(
[10:32] <Naemdar> I still have an ipod, but my mac book pro I have had for 5 years died.  sad but don't really need to replace it
[10:32] <roshambles> Hi, I asked my question in the #xubuntu channel but have no answer. Has anyone got compiz to work in it? I would really like my abillity to zoom in. No matter what key combo I use it won't work.
[10:32] <Naemdar> I heard it works but havn't tried to myself.
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> roshambles  use ccsm to configure compiz
[10:33] <Chuck_Norris> Jailbreak with "Absinthe" http://greenpois0n.com/
[10:33] <Naemdar> I may put compiz on 12.04 when the upgrade finishes.
[10:33] <Naemdar> I plan on upgrading security a ton as well.  :)
[10:33] <Chuck_Norris> linux pakage =P https://sites.google.com/site/greenpois0nabsinthe/absinthe-linux-2.0.4.tar.bz2
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: if you log in to XFCE then press ALT+F2 and run:  compzi --replace    what happens?
[10:34] <roshambles> monkeydust: yes, I have used the ccsm to configure compiz, that's why I'm saying no matter what key combo I program the zoom in/out function, it won't do it.
[10:34] <Naemdar> It will be interesting to see how well ubuntu plays with 256 bit hd encryption, secure browser extensions, and such.
[10:34] <largerthanlife>  ActionParsnip  I need to run a command at startup and shutdown, how should I do this?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: is the plugin enabled?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> largerthanlife: does the command need root access?
[10:35] <roshambles> it stopped at "zoom out key"
[10:35] <largerthanlife> wget command ActionParsnip
[10:35] <roshambles> oh, and alt+tab has stopped working
[10:35] <largerthanlife> no it doesn;t
[10:35] <Naemdar> is there a way to connect to the tor network with out using the live disk os?
[10:36] <Chuck_Norris> !info tor
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> !tor| Naemdar
[10:36] <largerthanlife> who wants tor?
[10:36] <Chuck_Norris> Naemdar: install tor and vidalia
[10:36] <Naemdar> thank you much
[10:36] <Chuck_Norris> !info vidalia
[10:37] <mi3> !lm-sensors
[10:37] <roshambles> actionparsnip : do you want me to copy and paste what it says? I can't give you a tes or no answer
[10:37] <largerthanlife> dont use it to connect to irc, they ll disconnect you immidiately
[10:37] <mi3> !nmap
[10:37] <mi3> ??
[10:37] <shape> Hello, I have windows 7 installed alongside ubuntu and yesterday it booted from grub perfectly. And today, after some updates, I select it at boot and it won't load. It returns back to grub. I tried updating and reinstalling grub from ubuntu and even tried the windows startup recovery disk which detected no problems.
[10:37] <largerthanlife> stop flooding please
[10:37] <Naemdar> Tor may be a bit overkill but I will at least run disk encryption and secure browsing extension for firefox
[10:38] <mi3> largerthanlife, for search engines, use ddg :D
[10:38] <mi3> its fast and awesome, largerthanlife :D
[10:38] <Eeeks> Does any one have recommedation on English to Hindi Dictionary translator?
[10:38] <largerthanlife> mi3: ddg?
[10:38] <mi3> largerthanlife, duckduckgo.com
[10:38] <largerthanlife> oh
[10:39] <__gilles> hi
[10:39] <mi3> largerthanlife, its privacy enhanced, and its fast, and secure
[10:39] <largerthanlife> lol yea i use it sometimes
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> largerthanlife: you can add it in the startup apps, it will run as soon as you log in
[10:39] <Naemdar> heard good things about ddg as it runs in https
[10:39] <mi3> largerthanlife, you even get an ssl/https version, what more do you want ?
[10:39] <mi3> HI ActionParsnip !!
[10:39] <mi3> !cookie | ActionParsnip
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> mi3: hi....
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> :)
[10:39] <mi3> :D
[10:39] <mi3> ActionParsnip, long time, no see :D
[10:40] <roshambles> actionparsnip: Compiz is running, it says integration is true, but now alt+tab doesn't work, how do I fix that? I really depend on that shortcut
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> mi3: yeah, just got my new eyes put in. Full vision now :)
[10:40] <mi3> ActionParsnip, what ?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: do other plugins work ok?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> mi3: its a joke
[10:40] <Naemdar> I still have the visor
[10:40] <Naemdar> lol
[10:40] <mi3> hahahahaha ok ActionParsnip LOL
[10:40] <roshambles> actionparsnip: Other plugins? I'm not sure what you mean
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: like wobbly windows etc
[10:41] <largerthanlife> mi3: are you work with ddg?
[10:41] <mi3> largerthanlife, what ?
[10:41] <largerthanlife> do you work with ddg*
[10:41] <largerthanlife> sorry
[10:41] <largerthanlife> typo
[10:42] <mi3> largerthanlife, no, I dont
[10:42] <largerthanlife> things you wrote back there , gave me this impression
[10:42] <largerthanlife> lol ok mi3
[10:42] <roshambles> actionparsnip: I just brought up the ccsm and the corner of it is obscured by the top bar and I can't move it. What does compiz --replace do?
[10:42] <mi3> largerthanlife, what impression ?
[10:42] <largerthanlife> that you work with duckduckgo
[10:43] <mi3> largerthanlife, no, I dont work for it, I just suggested you !
[10:43] <largerthanlife> mi3 thanks :)
[10:43] <mi3> largerthanlife, you are welcome ! :D
[10:43] <mi3> largerthanlife, also try https://startpage.com
[10:44] <mi3> largerthanlife, or https://hidemyass.com
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: replaces xfwin4 with compiz.
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: if you hold ALT you can drag a window from anywhere on the application window
[10:45] <roshambles> actionparsnip: Yes! The zoom is working with the scrollwheel and super button. But now my windows don't have the top bar, I can't move any windows nor can I alt+tab
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: do you use an nvidia GPU?
[10:45] <Eeeks> Is anyone have any recommedation on language translators? I badly need an Hindi to English translators!
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: again, you can hold ALT and drag from any part of the window
[10:46] <largerthanlife> thanks mi3 for the latter one
[10:46] <largerthanlife> that was cool
[10:46] <mi3> largerthanlife, ok
[10:46] <roshambles> actionparsnip: I click alt and drag, it doesn't want to, and double clicking doesn't resize it either
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: tried the other alt key?
[10:47] <dreamer000> roshambles: you need a theme manager part of compiz or something like emerald
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: do you have the move plugin enabled in ccsm?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: do you use an nvidia video chip..
[10:47] <fasta> initctl reload gives me initctl: missing job name.
[10:48] <fasta> All I want is to run getty from tty8 for which I configured a tty8.conf file.
[10:48] <fasta> Why can't it give a decent error message?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> fasta: better than most windows errors :)
[10:49] <fasta> ActionParsnip: I think it's just the faq which was wrong.
[10:49] <roshambles> actionparsnip: Just tried some other smaller im windows and nothing happens. I'll check. Yes, nvidia ion
[10:49] <fasta> ActionParsnip: it's initctl reload-configuration.
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> !tab| roshambles
[10:50] <Chuck_Norris> roshambles: what is your driver version? 295.40?
[10:51] <roshambles> tab is not working Monkeydust, but thanks, is that a limitation of xchat? Chucknorris: My driver version is whatever the latest stable driver is for nvidia on xubuntu. Actionparsnip: I can't find the move command, what catergory is it under?
[10:53] <Chuck_Norris> roshambles: open the nvidia control panel and see what is the version please,'coz if it's 295.40 is bugy
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: you may need an xorg.conf and add the options: http://pastie.org/4043587
[10:53] <dreamer000> !compiz-gtk
[10:53] <roshambles> 295.49
[10:53] <tuxgeek> !seen
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: so run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    add that under the: Driver "nvidia" line
[10:54] <fasta> ActionParsnip: what's wrong with this configuration for starting Debian in a chroot? http://paste.kde.org/494558/
[10:55] <roshambles> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[10:55] <roshambles> VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[10:55] <roshambles>                   Device section "Default Device" must have a Driver line.
[10:55] <roshambles> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[10:55] <roshambles> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[10:55] <FloodBot1> roshambles: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:56] <roshambles> did floodbot prevent you from seeing that? Said data was incomplete in file xorg.conf
[10:57] <quixotedon> roshambles: don't know why but recently you can't paste several lines together, and when you press return key, it just feels like you are sending several times, that's what floodbot is doing, checking several messages altogether to assume that you're flooding
[10:57] <Naemdar> So https everywhere, ddg ssl default search, and tor browser bundle, its amazing how easy and fast it is to secure a browsing experience.
[10:58] <amanthakur> Hi guys, i have made a daemon program to be run at system startup. I have added its script tp /etc/init.d and its running fine with the service command but it not coming up at system startup. Can anyone suggest me a way to achieve that?
[10:58] <quixotedon> *you = we = all users
[10:59] <Naemdar> the more I play with and learn about linux the more I love it.
[10:59] <morsnowski> Naemdar, i can relate to that :)
[10:59] <roshambles> I try to right click on the text to copy and paste it but I don't even have a copy command anymore. My desktop is more broken than before. I think I might just reinstall ubuntu at this rate and work around it's new interface that I don't like, compiz just worked then.
[10:59] <Naemdar> Just have to locate a good hd encryptor tool
[11:00] <roshambles> although the zoom does work now I've lost things like minimise/maximise/close, can't move windows and can't alt+tab and I do not see those options in the CCSM
[11:00] <fasta> With what rights does the stuff from upstart run? root?
[11:00] <Naemdar> the fact that linux scares people that only know windows is a great way to keep strangers off my computer :)
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Naemdar: my GF thinks its fine, although its setup well :)
[11:01] <amanthakur> ActionParsnip, any ideas about my problem :) ?
[11:02] <roshambles> If I uninstall compiz, will I get basic functionality back, like being able to move and resize windows, plus alt+tab?
[11:02] <ikonia> roshambles: if compiz is causing the problem, sure
[11:03] <amanthakur> Hi guys, i have made a daemon program to be run at system startup. I have added its script tp /etc/init.d and its running fine with the service command but it not coming up at system startup. Can anyone suggest me a way to achieve that?
[11:03] <ikonia> amanthakur: have you intergrated it into upstart
[11:03] <ikonia> amanthakur: eg: put a "depends" line in or something to trigger it
[11:04] <amanthakur> ikonia, no i have not done anything like that yet
[11:04] <ikonia> amanthakur: I'd suggest that would be the most likley issue
[11:04] <amanthakur> ikonia, please put some more light over that
[11:04] <ikonia> amanthakur: instead of run levels upstart uses triggers
[11:04] <amanthakur> !upstart
[11:05] <Naemdar> Where do I extract this tor browser pack to?
[11:08] <thebrasse> hi! anyone know why i see only one sink with pacmd but i can see three audio cards, one being my usb headphones? the sink i'm seeing is the built-in speakers in my laptop.
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: looks fnie, the file is made
[11:08] <thebrasse> i have changes my window manager, and since then i'm having all kinds of troubles getting stuff to work properly...
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> fasta: not something I've used, sorry
[11:08] <amanthakur> ikonia, i was making the daemon generic for all linux distros, so will it work on all platforms? if i use upstart?
[11:09] <ikonia> amanthakur: no, not all distros use upstart
[11:09] <ikonia> amanthakur: remember, the init system is not the daemon
[11:09] <amanthakur> ikonia, yeah
[11:09] <ikonia> the daemon will work on all distros (if you've built it correctly) but the init script will need to be setup for different distros
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Naemdar: could put it in /opt then symlink the binary to /usr/bin
[11:09] <fasta> How can I get NFS mounts to time out a lot sooner when booting?
[11:10] <amanthakur> ikonia, so is there an ideal way to achieve that?
[11:10] <fasta> If it's not mounted with 3 seconds, it's just offline.
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Naemdar: I ran that once, took forever to load
[11:10] <fasta> No need for it to try for 60 seconds or longer.
[11:10] <ikonia> amanthakur: yes, write the daemon, package it for different distros and include the correct init script in the distro package
[11:10] <fasta> Also, it appears that mounts are not done in parallel. Why not?
[11:10] <amanthakur> ikonia, and is there any other way to do that rather than using the upstart
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> fasta: could add the option 'noboot' in fstab then add:  sudo mount -a &    in /etc/rc.local
[11:10] <ikonia> amanthakur: upstart is the correct tool for ubuntu,
[11:10] <amanthakur> ikonia, i didn't wanted to use the upstart
[11:11] <amanthakur> ikonia, ok i will use it then thanks a lot :)
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> fasta: soem mounts may need the previous ones to be mounted first
[11:11] <MonkeyDu1t> darn cinnamon
[11:11] <roshambles> actionparsnip: I'm uninstalling compiz. I'll be reinstalling ubuntu on this system later on I just don't feel like going through the whole backup rigamarole right now
[11:11] <kramer3d> hello
[11:11] <fasta> ActionParsnip: I will try that. Sound like a plan.
[11:11] <kramer3d> does anyone know how to see a history of pdfs opened in chrome?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: you have the xorg.conf file, just add the 2 lines and you are done...
[11:12] <amanthakur> ikonia, upstart-udev-bridge is it the command?
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> fasta: bit of a hack, but should work
[11:12] <ikonia> amanthakur: errr no, it's not 1 command
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> kramer3d: press CTRL+H and search for PDF in the search box, may work
[11:12] <kramer3d> nope
[11:12] <fasta> ActionParsnip: it does one thing not exactly like I want still. If I do mount -a, it should also not take a long time.
[11:12] <kramer3d> guess chrome doenst save it :/
[11:12] <amanthakur> oh ok
[11:12] <kramer3d> hmm
[11:12] <fasta> ActionParsnip: but I suppose I could change the order :)
[11:13] <fasta> ActionParsnip: still, I think these things should be done in parallel.
[11:13] <cache_za> i think pdfs are downloads
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> kramer3d: maybe there is an extension...
[11:14] <cache_za> so ctrl+j search pdf
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> fasta: it should be an option ;)
[11:15] <roshambles> actionparsnip: I used the sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf but gedit hasn't come up
[11:16] <vadimkolchev> hi all. I'd like to know the following - is it normal, that apt-get update constantly downloads 13 megabytes of data, even if I run it 3 times in a row?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: oh yeah its xfce:  gksudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:17] <kramer3d> ActionParsnip, nvm got it :D
[11:17] <Ormie> Is it ok if I make my own ubuntu based distro and put unity in?
[11:17] <kramer3d> they are saved as webpages
[11:17] <kramer3d> or pages
[11:18] <kramer3d> in history
[11:18] <fasta> Ormie: except for trade marks, sure.
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  why not, but why bother, there already about 150+ ubuntu forks (more or less)
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> are*
[11:18] <fasta> Ormie: there are all kinds of conditions and for personal use you can do anything with it.
[11:19] <fasta> Ormie: e.g. if you want to create a holy burning of Ubuntu, you can do that.
[11:19] <Ormie> ?
[11:19] <fasta> Ormie: never mind.
[11:19] <Ormie> yeah
[11:19] <bitabit> hello I have a local network and if the computer with shared folders is connected afterwards those shared folders dont appear. it needs to be the first turned on computer...is there a way to fix this? ubuntu 11.04 both thankyou in advance
[11:23] <Naemdar> yea yea update done.
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> bitabit: if you add them as bookmarks in nautilus, does it help
[11:23] <Naemdar> and collusion scares me
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> bitabit: is the sharing service running ok
[11:23] <Naemdar> it will make you afraid to search the net seeing how many sites share info lol
[11:24] <bitabit> add them as bookmarks? they are not stayed!
[11:24] <bitabit> I am a noob buddie
[11:24] <bitabit> so think easy
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> bitabit  that was the easy way
[11:25] <bitabit> I go to places network and nothing there
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> bitabit: when you acces the share, click 'bookamrks' and add the bookmark
[11:25] <bitabit> only if the other computer is switched on first...shared folders appear
[11:26] <bitabit> to go to network folder?
[11:26] <bitabit> I did nothing appears
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> bitabit  yes, that is correct, using bookmarks is the fastest and easiest to load remote folders, when the local pc is switched on second
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> way*
[11:27] <Ormie> My battery life is really short! Thanks to that ol' crappy windows 7. Now I use ubuntu. I seem to have problem installing granola and granola-gui from apt-get, what shall I do?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> bitabit: get to the folder so you can see the data within one of the shares then add it as a bookmark
[11:27] <bitabit> sooooo...switching it on first?
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> bitabit  or using bookmarks
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> that's how i do it, too
[11:28] <ikonia> Ormie: what's the issue
[11:28] <bitabit> bookmark to go to the shared folder? I CANT SEE IT
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> bitabit  access to remote folder, then bookmark it
[11:29] <Ormie> ikonia, it seems that granola and granola-gui was removed from repo, I want it back.
[11:29] <ikonia> Ormie: then you need to log a bug/wishlist
[11:30] <Ormie> ikonia, i just want to add the app to repo
[11:30] <Ormie> manually
[11:30] <ikonia> Ormie: you can't
[11:30] <ikonia> Ormie: you don't control the repo
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  canonical adds apps to the repos
[11:31] <Ormie> :(
[11:31] <Ormie> :(
[11:31] <Ormie> If canonical can, why can't we?
[11:31] <ikonia> Ormie: it's their repos
[11:31] <Ormie> on their server?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> !info granola
[11:31] <bitabit> I dont get it...If I bookmark a shared folder it only add a bookmark in the computer the shared folder is...how am I supposed to open it from another computer
[11:31] <bitabit> ?
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  because if you can, an evil-doer can, too
[11:32] <Ormie> is the repo store in cannonical's server?
[11:32] <Ormie> stored*
[11:32] <Drajwer> how do I fix my missing eth0 in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[11:32] <Ormie> sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[11:33] <bitabit> hey missing eth in 12.04 here too!!
[11:33] <DarkSim> Any easy way to restore Ubuntu to how it was when I first installed it?
[11:33] <bitabit> I think it is a hot bug
[11:33] <DarkSim> Like a restore point or something?
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> DarkSim try janitor or bleachbit
[11:33] <ufk> hi
[11:34] <ufk> how do i configure in /etc/fstab to mount with specific uid ? when i add uid=1000 it says unrecognized mount option or missing value
[11:34] <Drajwer> bitabit: it looks like kernel module is missing or smth
[11:34] <DarkSim> None of them seems to support precise
[11:34] <aykoola> hi guys
[11:34] <aykoola> !
[11:35] <aykoola> i have a 12.04 installation question
[11:35] <aykoola> can anyone help me?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: you can use your backups I guess
[11:35] <CookieM_> aykoola shoot
[11:35] <LordOfTime> aykoola:  asking the question is better
[11:35] <LordOfTime> !ask | aykoola
[11:35] <DJones> aykoola: Ask your question, until you do that, people won't know i they can help
[11:35] <kaphe> hello, i am using pan 0.133 and it keeps saying "connecting"! does it mean to my provider or the queud tasks?
[11:36] <DarkSim> Where do I find those?
[11:36] <JackShephard> kde goes great with the effects of kwin, gnome without a composite manager is scarce. If I install compiz, then I have no problems with kwin. interferes with the kde desktop effects
[11:36] <Chuck_Norris> Ormie: http://grano.la/support/linux_enterprise.php
[11:36] <Ormie> i ask to ask a question to catch people's attention :D
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: you make your own backups
[11:36] <DarkSim> Then I have none
[11:37] <DarkSim> Was hoping to skip the reinstallation process
[11:37] <Drajwer> how do I fix my missing eth0 in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> DarkSim  consider a backup a restore point
[11:37] <Drajwer> lshw -C network does not list ethernet device other than wlan0 (ath9k_htc) and tun (vpn conn)
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Drajwer: if you run:  dmesg | grep eth0    is there any output?
[11:37] <Drajwer> nope ActionParsnip
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Drajwer: does the system have a make and model?
[11:38] <Chuck_Norris> Ormie: http://grano.la/software/download_granola.php
[11:38] <aykoola> OH.Sorry. Well, my installer crashed numerous times, it was that ubiquity error that a large topic was on the forums. I've tried everything, upgrading, alternate install media (the text based one) and a normal one on DVD as well as USB. every single one crashed on me. Now someone suggested to remove the slideshow from the live media, but i'm wondering, is this action any different from using the text based installer? And, will the im
[11:38] <Ormie> ok
[11:38] <aykoola> not only me experiencing the problem?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> aykoola: have you tested your RAM>
[11:38] <JackShephard> kde goes great with the effects of kwin, gnome without a composite manager is scarce. If I install compiz, then I have no problems with kwin. interferes with the kde desktop effects
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> JackShephard: what is the question?
[11:39] <Drajwer> asus p55A
[11:39] <Drajwer> mobo
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Drajwer: tried restting BIOS to failsafe default?
[11:39] <Drajwer> now I see why I switched to Mac
[11:39] <Drajwer> :p
[11:40] <Drajwer> no, i think kernel module is missing or something?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Drajwer: worth a try, does it work in an older kernel?
[11:40] <Drajwer> it used to work on 10.04
[11:40] <Drajwer> i cant remember
[11:40] <aykoola> how exactly do i do that? :) test the ram that is...Otherwise Debian install and Fedora and Ubu 11.10 work fine...
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> !memtest | aykoola
[11:41] <JackShephard> actionparsnip
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> aykoola: its part of the install media
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Drajwer: if you have the lucid liveCD, boot to that and see what module it uses.
[11:41] <Drajwer> i just transfer some gigabytes via wlan which is working
[11:42] <DarkSim> Being Windows in a Linux world is not easy
[11:42] <JackShephard> actionparsnip i want install compiz on natty, but if i start kde session is incompatible wiht kwin? i want use compiz in gnome, but, i use both DE
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> JackShephard: compiz will replace kwin
[11:43] <JackShephard> actionpasnip but compiz is a windowmanager
[11:43] <bitabit> Drajwer: I tried  Changing [ifupdown] managed=false to true in /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf resolved the issue. it only worked with 11.10 but after upgrading to 12.04 the problem is on again
[11:43] <GNS3Talk> Everyone, how do I change the resolution of a headless 12.04 PC? I'm accessing my machine remotely and there is no monitor connected to it!
[11:43] <aykoola> Oh, ActionParsnip, i forgot to mention that i otherwise checked the md5cheksum according to instructions, and checked the install media in the installer, and it was all OK...
[11:43] <Drajwer> I have no /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> JackShephard: yes, so is kwin
[11:44] <CainHK>    好多淫
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[11:44] <JackShephard> actionparsnip, can i use both? kwin in kde, e compiz in gnome?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> aykoola: did you try updating ubiquity in the liveCD, then install
[11:44] <bitabit> Drawjer the file has a different name in 12.04 I cant find the thread I read it on....sorry
[11:44] <aykoola> no. what's the command for that?
[11:45] <aykoola> so i can write it down
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> JackShephard: sure :)
[11:45] <deepspeed> My pc isn't recognizing my blackberry's sd card, but windows picks it up.  How do I fix this?
[11:45] <deepspeed> I'm running lucid
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> aykoola: boot to liveCD and then run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ubiquity
[11:45] <JackShephard> actionparsnip, but you write about compiz will replace kwin..
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> JackShephard: I thought you wanted compiz in both
[11:46] <aykoola> thanks
[11:46] <JackShephard> actionparsnip, i don't  want delete kwin
[11:46] <aykoola> i'll try it and post the results
[11:46] <Kowalczyk> hi... I get this error when I boot from the ubuntu cd: error prefix not set. and last install I juyst got a butch of 9999999 over the screen when it tried to boot ubuntu... redownloaded the iso and burned again. I still get the prefix not set. but will see if it can boot it afterwards
[11:46] <Kowalczyk> ubuntu 12.04 amd 64
[11:46] <GNS3Talk> Everyone, how do I change the resolution of a headless 12.04 PC? I'm accessing my machine remotely and there is no monitor connected to it!
[11:46] <Klompz> just a quick question 4 now: does this channel also have more quite times, or less busy? i might check in by that time
[11:47] <stevegjacobs> #join openstack
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Kowalczyk: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[11:47] <JackShephard> actionparsnip, i have both sessions. kde and gnome, but i want use compiz in gnome e kwin in kde
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Klompz: it varies wildly
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> Klompz:  totally depends on the day of the week and time of day
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> JackShephard: that's fine and should happen
[11:47] <Klompz> im flexible
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> Klompz:  on release day ive seen 3000+ in here befor
[11:47] <Kowalczyk> no I didnt... will try that
[11:47] <phanindraramesh> hai all, I want to print the 7the field and then the 1st field in all the lines from a file. How can I do it using cut command?
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> Klompz  depends of the timezone you're in, too
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> Klompz:  its 8am in the usa. so id say this is getting to be the bussier time for the next 12 hrs or so
[11:48] <Klompz> maybe i should check in when it late in the night in the usa
[11:48]  * Klompz dutch
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> Its decently quiet in here right now. :)
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> Klompz  -6h in new york, -9h in LA
[11:49] <Ormie> E: Unable to locate package granola-connect :(
[11:50] <ikonia> Ormie: you know why
[11:50] <Ormie> Why?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> !find granola
[11:50] <ikonia> Ormie: it's not in the repo as you told us
[11:50] <Ormie> ikonia, I followed the instructions from the official website.
[11:50] <Ormie> still not work  :(
[11:50] <Klompz> ok, i go for it even though busy channels make me a bit nervous to be honest: i burned 12.04 to disc and loaded it, but i wont get passed the ubuntu logo screen, on the other, this, laptop it goes to the next screen where u can choose run from cd or install
[11:51] <ikonia> Ormie: what have you done
[11:51] <Klompz> usb is not an option, i have none
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Klompz: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[11:51] <Kowalczyk> ActionParsnip: I ran md5 sum on it now
[11:51] <Klompz> nope
[11:51] <Kowalczyk> MD5 (ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso) = 128f0c16f4734c420b0185a492d92e52
[11:51] <Kowalczyk> is what I got
[11:51]  * Klompz googles md5 test
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> !hashes | Kowalczyk
[11:52] <phanindraramesh> hai all, I want to print the 7the field and then the 1st field in all the lines from a file. How can I do it using cut command?
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> Klompz  have you asked in #ubuntu-nl ?
[11:52] <Kowalczyk> ActionParsnip: that looked the same
[11:52] <Kowalczyk> will see now..
[11:52] <Ormie> ikonia, http://grano.la/support/linux_enterprise.php?download&os=linux
[11:53] <Ormie> !find sl
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Klompz: what video chip do you use?
[11:53] <Ormie> !find virtualbox
[11:53] <ikonia> Ormie: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  use /msg ubottu to perform finds
[11:53] <Kowalczyk> ActionParsnip: hmm didnt do anything.. I just get a page with L 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 all over
[11:54] <Klompz> not always enough peeps around, MonkeyDust , and no idea ActionParsnip , im only a simple n00b ;)
[11:54] <deepspeed> Guys, how do I get lucid to show my phone's sd card?  usb mass storage is enabled, and winblows picks it up fine.
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  you are using the LILO boot loader?
[11:54]  * Klompz installs md5sum
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Kowalczyk: is the RAM healthy?
[11:54] <Kowalczyk> Dr_Willis: I had that on slackware. but I formated the partition. so shouldnt be any problem
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  formating a filesystem does not erase the MBR boot loader.
[11:54] <deepspeed> I can't see it in thunar or the stock file manager, and it's not in /media, either.
[11:55] <Kowalczyk> ok.. I see... hmm... I should delete the partition? and create it again=?
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  it definatly looks like LILO is booting. You can 'dd' the mbr and zero it out then repariton if you want to.
[11:55] <phanindraramesh> hai all, I want to print the 7the field and then the 1st field in all the lines from a file. How can I do it using cut command?
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> there may be vbetter/safer ways to erase lilo from the mbr.
[11:55] <deepspeed> the MBR isn't on the partition, iirc.
[11:55] <Kowalczyk> I know.. so not sure why it crashes with it. hmm
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> the MBR is whats booting and showing that L99 99 99 99 error mesage
[11:55] <deepspeed> it's at the start of the hdd, I thought.
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> phanindraramesh: you can use awk, do you want them outputing side by side?
[11:56] <akls> I would like to share one connection between three computers, so all these pcs are connected to the switch and internet works, but whenever there are three connected pcs one of them keeps disconnecting from time to time(1 time per 3 seconds). what's the problem? then network is kinda busy
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> phanindraramesh: or one after the other
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> I definatly seem to recall old lilo error codes. and L  99 99 99  ment it couldent find somthing.
[11:56] <Kowalczyk> hmm..
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  is the hard drive empty?
[11:56] <phanindraramesh> ActionParsnip, I want the output side by side
[11:56] <Kowalczyk> Dr_Willis: no.
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> phanindraramesh: gimme a sec then :)
[11:57] <Kowalczyk> I have one swap, and one / and one /home
[11:57] <Kowalczyk> so I just formatted the /
[11:57] <phanindraramesh> ActionParsnip, ok. Thank you:=)
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  you aer going to boot this hard drive? or is some other drive booting?
[11:57] <Ormie> ikonia, this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028458/ and this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028460/
[11:57] <Klompz> screw, peeps at the door, i'll come back later, i hope
[11:57] <deepspeed> Can anyone help me access my micro sd with lucid?
[11:57] <Kowalczyk> im gonan boot this harddrive. its just one drive in it. I got ubuntu installed.
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  well for some reason GRUB did not install like it should to the MBR and erase lilo.
[11:58] <Kowalczyk> ok. hmm
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  id follow the 'fix grub' guides and reinstall grub.
[11:58] <ikonia> Ormie: what's in misuerware.list ?
[11:58] <Kowalczyk> ok. will try. have never done it before though
[11:58] <Kowalczyk> but using the live cd I assume
[11:58] <Kowalczyk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows ?
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> my link is like the first link ont he one you gave. :)
[11:59] <Ormie> ikonia, deb https://download.miserware.com/linux/deb precise main
[11:59] <Kowalczyk> will do it through the live cd then. at least try
[11:59] <Kowalczyk> thanks
[12:00] <ikonia> Ormie: sudo apt-get update
[12:01] <Kowalczyk> Dr_Willis: thank you.. booting from live cd now. will see if it works
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> phanindraramesh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028466
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> phanindraramesh: not graceful but should work
[12:02]  * Ormie is doing what ikonia says
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> phanindraramesh: you could use it as a script, or just change $1 for the file to mess with
[12:04] <Ormie> ikonia, it's working! thanks alot.
[12:04] <Ormie> :D
[12:04] <Ormie> !yay
[12:05] <siva4080> How to create the Adhoc Network in Ubuntu-12.04 ?
[12:05] <siva4080> I did not find any option for that on Ubuntu-12.04..
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: they updated the Maverick folder on 19th Mar 2012...very strange
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  if you didn't know apt-get update, my advice is to not try and create a new distro
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> siva4080: network manager can do it
[12:06] <morsnowski> siva4080, there is actually an option called "Create new wireless network"
[12:06] <Kowalczyk> Dr_Willis: configuring grub-pc. it ask me if I want to remove the grub 2 files. hmm
[12:06] <Kowalczyk> should prolly say no to that?
[12:07] <Kowalczyk> aha. nwm
[12:07] <siva4080> morsnowski: Oh..  where ?
[12:07] <morsnowski> just click on the network manager upper right hand corner next to the speaker icon
[12:08] <morsnowski> well that is under gnome
[12:08] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, I know about it, But I used it and it looked useless, so I forgot about it.
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> siva4080:
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> grub-pc is grub2....
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> siva4080: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> siva4080: simple websearches find guides online, dead handy
[12:08] <siva4080> oh..
[12:08]  * ActionParsnip shrugs
[12:08] <siva4080> ok..
[12:08] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: who/what/where, wasn't watching sorry
[12:09] <phanindraramesh> ActionParsnip, that worked:). Thank you
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: on the PPA
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> ikonia:
[12:10] <Ca11um> Hey guys, I'm having troubles installing the package libreadline5-dev for 12.04 - full explanation: http://forum.mtasa.com/viewtopic.php?f=106&t=44123
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: https://download.miserware.com/linux/deb/dists/
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> phanindraramesh: its not too graceful but you get the idea
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> phanindraramesh: did you use the $1 as I gave it?
[12:10] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: I see what you're saying
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: strange, might email them later :)
[12:11] <SajjaD> hello every one. How can i set my mic? it doesn't work
[12:11] <Kowalczyk> Dr_Willis: thank you so much :) that worked
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> SajjaD: what apps have you tried (please don't say skype)
[12:11] <SajjaD> the default app of ubuntu
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> SajjaD: sound recorder?
[12:11] <SajjaD> ActionParsnip: yes
[12:12] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  weird that the installer miss-installed grub
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> SajjaD: if you run:  alsamixer    are all levels cranked and unmuted?
[12:12] <SajjaD> ActionParsnip: i have to run it in terminal?
[12:13] <siva4080> ActionParsnip: Can I see my adhoc network on Windows Laptops also ?
[12:13] <Ormie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028482/
[12:13] <Kowalczyk> Dr_Willis: ya... but at least it worked..
[12:13] <Kowalczyk> thank you :)
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> siva4080: if you scan for the new network it should be seen
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> SajjaD: yes
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> SajjaD: cursors to select and change levels, M to un/mute and ESC to exit
[12:14] <_raven_> has anyone experience with KDENLIVE in ubuntu 12.04? need some help and #kdenlive is silent
[12:15] <SajjaD> ActionParsnip: you are right.the mic levels where disabled
[12:15] <phanindraramesh> ActionParsnip, that worked:). Thank you
[12:15] <Ormie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028482/
[12:15] <Ormie> Please help!
[12:15] <Ormie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028482/
[12:15] <Ormie> Again
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> !repeat| Ormie
[12:15] <DJones> !repeat | Ormie
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  its also a good idea to at least summarize the issue along with the paste.
[12:15] <Ormie> Ah, I am afraid the question is not obvious enough
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> phanindraramesh: sweet you can do it with multiple files now outputting first the 7th then 2nd colomns
[12:15] <SajjaD> ActionParsnip: why it has 2 front mic option and 2 rear mic option?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> SajjaD: is the system a desktop PC?
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  not many people are familiar with granola
[12:17] <Ormie> :(
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> I eat granola with my Yougart. :)
[12:17] <morsnowski> does anybody know a small antivirus distro?
[12:17] <_raven_> has anyone experience with KDENLIVE in ubuntu 12.04? need some help and #kdenlive is silent
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> morsnowski: you can install clamav in the live environment and scan stuff..
[12:17] <Kowalczyk> hmm. ubuntu cant find my other screen..
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> morsnowski:  ive seen some of the AV companies have their own live-cds, and theres clamav live cds also i think.
[12:17] <SajjaD>  ActionParsnip: yes
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  what video card?
[12:17] <morsnowski> thanks guys
[12:17] <Ormie> I GIVE UP
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/granola-improves-your-netbooklaptop.html
[12:18] <Kowalczyk> Nvidia Quadro NVS 295
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Granola is not open-source   - boo
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Kowalczyk: try the boot option:   nouveau.blacklist=1
[12:18] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, I don't need the source! I just want to download it :(
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> Oh that Granola... I found that tool to be rather.. well... incorrect about a lot of its info.
[12:18] <Kowalczyk> ok... in grub.conf=
[12:18] <Kowalczyk> ?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Kowalczyk: no, you will edit /etc/defaul/grub    in the liveCD you add them slightly differently
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  so whats stopping you?
[12:19] <phanindraramesh> ActionParsnip, I have a file that contains the letter "(double quotes) in each line. I donot want to print that letter. How can I do that?
[12:19] <Kowalczyk> im not in live cd now
[12:19] <SajjaD> ActionParsnip: yes it is desktop pc
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: the page shows how to install it...
[12:19] <ha1dfo> hi, I'm checking this documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SingleSignOn , and i'm missing the user management part. With this setup (krb5+ldap) do I need to add users in the ldap and then create principals for them with kerberos as well?
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  it's a 3rd party, non-open source, inaccurate tool
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> SajjaD: with front and rear audio?
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> And the granola download link is dead. ;)
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> and the comments on that Page are rather harsh on granola. and that page is over 2 yrs old.
[12:20] <edgy> Hi, I have precise dual boot with windows and now wants to install quantal alongside. I will create an lv_root, lv_home and then boot from the liveCD and choose the / and /home to point to the previouse volumes, is that OK?
[12:20] <SajjaD> ActionParsnip: thanks.
[12:21] <Kowalczyk> ActionParsnip: ok. just need to find out where I should put it :D
[12:21] <divanshu> Hi, is anyone working on kernel programming ?
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  so the system is not booting right?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption
[12:21] <Kowalczyk> yes it is
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> yes it is booting right.. or yes it is not booting right>
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[12:22] <Kowalczyk> it just find one screen.. gonna add the blacklist stuff. I add it to the grub_cmdline_linux_default ?
[12:22] <Kowalczyk> its booting:)
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  you installed the nvidia drivers yet?
[12:22] <Kowalczyk> but just find one display
[12:22] <Kowalczyk> yes..
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> you rebooted afterwards?
[12:22] <Kowalczyk> yes
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  you ran the nvidia-settings tool?
[12:22] <Kowalczyk> or it found the nvidia driver in the additional drivers
[12:22] <Kowalczyk> hmm no
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  there ya go.. You dont use the normal monitors/display tool with nvidia drivers. You use the nvidia-settings tool
[12:23] <Kowalczyk> aha.. lol :D thanks. yeah..
[12:23] <lmaokid> Guys. How do I add Ubuntu to the Windows Bootloader? Just installed ubuntu, but the Grub didn't install properly, it's not showing up
[12:23] <Kowalczyk> awesome:D
[12:23] <Kowalczyk> im used to slackware. hehee.. dont remember how to do it from gui :D:D hehe
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> lmaokid:  you did a WUBI inside windows isntall? or a normal "booted the cd" and installed type install?
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> nvidia-settings tool works in slackware last i tried it. :P
[12:24] <edgy> phanindraramesh: you can sed for that
[12:24] <lmaokid> Clean Alternate install
[12:24] <Kowalczyk> yeah I didnt have to use it though.. I fixed it in xorg :D hehe
[12:24] <phanindraramesh> edgy, got it using cut and paste. thank you
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> lmaokid: if you are dual booting, then you should boot a live cd and reinstall grub. that will be easier then trying to get windows to boot the ubuntu install.
[12:24] <divanshu> quit
[12:25] <Womkes> Is it ok to crosspost on ubuntu-users mailing list and also make a topic on the ubuntu forums, or is this now allowed?
[12:25] <lmaokid> Windows is intalled on a different HDD
[12:25] <tailf> does anyone know the 64 bit equivalent for this location? im trying to add the setting 'GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1' to somewhere useful but it seems this is the wrong path (as the file doesnt exist): usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> lmaokid:  live cd and  boot-repair tool - is handy. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> lmaokid:  so  You dont see a grub meniu at all? If so. then you MAY be booting the wrong hard drive
[12:26] <Kowalczyk> Dr_Willis: that did the trick :D
[12:26] <Ca11um> ActionParsnip: Looking at that Granola link, the download link is broken?
[12:26] <Ca11um> For the deb
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> Ca11um:  :)  i said that earlier..
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> Ca11um:  and its got rather poor comments about the tool.
[12:26] <lmaokid> There's no GRUB.
[12:27] <lmaokid> Like I've told you, The OSs are installed on different HDDS
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> lmaokid:  when i use 2 hds i normally put grub on the ubuntu HD and set the bios to boot that hd.  leaving the windows HD totally untouched
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> lmaokid:  so there CAN be a grub. on the other hd.
[12:27] <lmaokid> oh
[12:27] <lmaokid> Ok, I'll set the Ubuntu HDD to boot first then
[12:27] <lmaokid> Thanks mate, gonna try now :)
[12:28] <Ca11um> Dr_Willis: Know of any alternative tools that do the same job? I've been looking for a while for software that shows the annual cost and power consumption of a laptop/desktop, and ways of saving energy.
[12:28] <darrenlooby> When mounting via fstabs - is there something I need to restart?
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> Ca11um:  the comments on the page suggest that the kernel is allready doing the exact same thing. except for the 'fake' power reports. :)
[12:28] <jrib> darrenlooby: no/be more specific
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> darrenlooby  after you modified fstab, type /sudo mount -a
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> darrenlooby:  edit the fstab. sudo mount -a, or mount /media/whatever
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> 'AFAIR Granola uses powernowd (and thus cpufreq) to reduce the frequency of the CPU. So in the best case it does exactly what Linux does already'
[12:29] <darrenlooby> Thanks MonkeyDust and Dr_Willis
[12:30] <darrenlooby> jrib, thanks. Got the answer I was looking for, despite being a little too vague.
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> !fstab
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: find an alternative is all I can suggest
[12:31] <OpenTokix> Hello, how  does the 12.04 LTS work with upgrades. Will the upgrade liks kernel version? or just patch it? How about software, will it get new version, or patch them for feature, or just patch for security?
[12:33] <aykoola> hi, me again. I'm planning on wiping my entire disk with dban (someone said it might work). how can i format my usb drive and will dban work using netbootin? + i would like to know if bios and that stuff stays intact on my computer? thank you!
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> aykoola:  why are you doing this wipeing
[12:33] <phanindraramesh> How can I make all letters in a file capital??
[12:33] <jrib> phanindraramesh: you can use tr
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> phanindraramesh:  awk/sed/tr :)
[12:33] <edgy> phanindraramesh: tr
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> In a FILE or in a Files NAME?
[12:34] <aykoola> someone told me that because everything failed (every type of ubu install + one opensuse install) that i should try it, and then try to install the system...
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> aykoola:  i dont follow that logic.. but a simple 'dd' the drive to zero it out.. and trying to reparition. would most likely be just as good...
[12:35] <aykoola> what's dd? (sorry, not trying to troll, really dont know)
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)
[12:35] <darrenlooby> I'm getting a timeout error when mounting network folders... after running the command "sudo mount -a". Where should I look for error logs regarding this?
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> aykoola  or use gparted to delete / re-create the partition(s)
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> a command to do fancy 'data dumping' ;)
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> im not sure if gparted has a 'zero the drive' option
[12:36] <aykoola> so i just enter dd into the terminal?
[12:36] <wollowizard> how can I see how many threads running on my system? I'm interested in threads created by one or two processes
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: cd $HOME; wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/installer.bash; chmod +x ./installer.bash; sudo ./installer.bash
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> wollowizard: pstree    should do it
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> aykoola:  read the wiki page.. a typo with dd can = erased wrong hard drive
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> aykoola:  example ussage -> From the wiki page      dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M
[12:37] <zykotick9> wollowizard: in might also want to check out htop (if you want realtime viewing)
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> aykoola:  just to be extra safe.. id unhook any hard drives with data you want to keep. :)
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: I just used dropbox to make wget a bit easier :)
[12:39] <aykoola> Dr_Willis - thanks - i don't need any data, and a couple of documents are already stored on a dvd.
[12:39] <aykoola> Dr_Willis how do i format my usb key? there's nothing there on right click :(
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> aykoola: use gparted
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> aykoola:  you partion, then format the paritions...
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> gparted can do all that
[12:40] <aykoola> ok guys
[12:40] <aykoola> thank you all!
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: any better?
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> isnt dd 'dataset definition' ?
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> The name dd is an allusion to DD found in IBM JCL, and the command's syntax is meant to be reminiscent of it;[4] in JCL, "DD" stands for Data Description.[5]
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: it can be 'data destroyer' if you get it wrong :)
[12:44] <SajjaD> ActionParsnip: me again. the mic don't work yet
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> data dump  seems more generic :)
[12:46] <SajjaD> my mic don't work even when i put it in 100 in alsamixer from terminal?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> SajjaD: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[12:47] <zykotick9> SajjaD: are you using F4 to get to Capture in alsamixer?
[12:47] <SajjaD> yes
[12:48] <duur> welp
[12:49] <SajjaD> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=765af6a9abc07755c1142f3484441ce7e1266120
[12:49] <OpenTokix> I will try my question again: How  does the 12.04 LTS work with upgrades. Will the upgrade liks kernel version? or just patch it? How about software, will it get new version, or patch them for feature, or just patch for security?
[12:50] <zykotick9> SajjaD: you don't happen to be a EEE1005 and the internal mic by chance?
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> OpenTokix:  ubuntu basically does 'security and major bug fixs' in its upgrades.
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> SajjaD: you have no als lib version..
[12:50] <OpenTokix> Dr_Willis: So during the LTS five year life, there will be no version upgrades for packages?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: gigabyte M52S-S3P
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> OpenTokix:  normally they dont jump to the next version of an app or kernel except in some cases
[12:51] <SajjaD> zykotick9: ididn't get your q
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> OpenTokix:  you got it. thers some exceptions. theres a url/factoid on it.
[12:51] <dimor> i've recently installed 12.04 and i'm having problems connecting to l2tp/ipsec vpn, i get "Maximum retries exceeded for tunnel X.  Closing." messages, and every once in a dozen times i manage to actually connect the vpn. is anyone familiar with such behaviour?
[12:51] <OpenTokix> Dr_Willis: do you have that url?
[12:51] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: thanks.  i have a crazy set left to 90 and right to 10 - in order to get my mic on my eee working (very weird).
[12:51] <hippiehacker> where are tasks defined as the Packages.gz is built?: curl http://ftp.utexas.edu/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz | zgrep Task:
[12:51] <hippiehacker>  
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> SajjaD: try: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*      Wait 10 seconds then reboot
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> OpenTokix:  the bot has it. but i cant rember it.
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> !version
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> !latest
[12:55] <OpenTokix> Dr_Willis: thanks, I will check those three myself. - Thanks alot
[12:56] <unixabg_> Greetings, is anyone build live ubuntu images with live-build?
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> seems the bug where X starts sucking down lots of CPU is still affecting m,e. ;(
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> jumping from 10 to 50% ussage
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: in all desktops?
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  affected every desktop and window manager.. even seems to affect lightdm
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: hmm, could try switching to gdm to test
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> if i restart the X server it goes back down.  to normal 0-3%  just idling on irc.
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> it did it with jwm, lubuntum and openbox also.
[12:58] <thebrasse> what is the name of the audio settings dialog executable?
[12:58] <Naemdar> Trying to make a xbox 360 controller work with unbuntu is there software that allows that?
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> htop shows  /usr/bin/X sucking down the cpu.
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> thebrasse: could use gnome-alsamixer
[12:59] <edgy> sirs, I have precise dual boot with windows and now wants to install quantal alongside. I will create an lv_root, lv_home and then boot from the liveCD and choose the / and /home to point to the previouse volumes, is that OK?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> edgy: quantal is supported in #ubuntu+1
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> is quantal even in a useable state? :)
[12:59] <edgy> ActionParsnip: my question is not about quantal. it's about installing two ubuntus together
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> edgy: you can share swap but not sure about home asthe settings may clash and cause issues
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> brb
[13:00] <JohnDDD> hello people, i have screwed my fstab and in recovery mode it is read only. How can I correct my fstab in writeable mode?
[13:00] <deepspeed> I have a phone that shows up with lsusb, but not with fdisk-l.
[13:00] <Ormie> Any alternatives to granola in GUI?
[13:00] <deepspeed> How do I mount it?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> edgy: you could make another home and symlink the casual userdata like images, but keep the config folders separate
[13:00] <edgy> ActionParsnip: my main concern now is the grub boot loader and /boot
[13:00] <edgy> ActionParsnip: would grub recognize the old linux and windows and add an entry?
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  there are other cpu power settings tools/indicator applets.  askubuntu.com had a list of indicator applets. I think i got it bookmarked at  http:/delicious.com/dr_willis
[13:01] <edgy> ActionParsnip: do I need to create a /boot or is it ok to have it in /
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> brb
[13:02] <Ormie> Anyone else?
[13:02] <Ormie> Any alternatives to granola in GUI?
[13:02] <thebrasse> actionparsnip: hmm.. that one would have the same features as alsmixer i guess? i want to select audio output device and alsamixer failed to do that correctly.
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> check out the cpu/power setting indicator applets?
[13:03] <Ormie> huh
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  there are other cpu power settings tools/indicator applets.  askubuntu.com had a list of indicator applets. I think i got it bookmarked at  http:/delicious.com/dr_willis
[13:03] <sacarlson> JohnDDD: I"m not sure how bad your fstab or system is I guess you can boot a live usb or cd and correct the file you modified
[13:03] <thebrasse> i have changed window manager and now lots of stuff has just stopped working.
[13:03] <Ormie> ok
[13:03] <Ormie> Can't find it
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> thebrasse  not every wm supports every functionality, i guess
[13:04] <thebrasse> actionparsnip: i have been able to select my usb headphones as output before i changed the window manager.
[13:05] <sacarlson> JohnDDD: or try this first http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/1288/remount-root-in-read-write-mode.
[13:05] <thebrasse> actionparsnip: i was hoping that i would be able to select the headphones as output again if i could just get the audio display settings dialog running again..
[13:05] <Ormie> Dr_Willis, I can't find anything like "CPU Usage"
[13:05] <thebrasse> monkeydust: yes, i guess so. my compose key stopped working, for example..
[13:06] <JohnDDD> sacarlson: thank you for reply, it is not bad, I remember what went wrong. will try, thank you
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> edgy: should do as far as I know, my grub skills are basic
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  righ there on first page of the indicator-applet list at askubuntu.com   http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[13:08] <Naphatul> how do i make ubuntu search through the mounted partitions?
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> !info cpulimit| Ormie
[13:08] <Ca11um> Is there no simple way to delete all files and folders in a directory?
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> !info cpulimit | Ormie
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Naphatul: using what app?
[13:08] <Ca11um> Without loads of rmdirs and rms
[13:08] <Naphatul> ActionParsnip, the unity lens
[13:08] <Ormie> hm...
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> Ca11um:  rm -rf  is rather simple....
[13:08] <edgy> ActionParsnip: and no need to create a non-lvm /boot?
[13:08] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, Is it GUI?
[13:09] <Ca11um> Thanks Dr_Willis
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  havent tried it
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: rm -r /top/most/folder
[13:09] <sacarlson> Ca11um: rm -r /path/to/dir
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> Ca11um:  bash basics. ;)
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> edgy: ive not used lvm
[13:09] <edgy> ActionParsnip: ok thanks, I will try
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Naphatul: not used that to be honest. I use find and locate to search
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Naphatul: sudo updatedb; localte nameofthing
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> without the spelling mistake, obviously
[13:10] <davidcalle> ActionParsnip, afaik updatedb doesn't go through mounted disks.
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> depends on where they are mounted to. :)
[13:11] <dimor> i've recently installed 12.04 and i'm having problems connecting to l2tp/ipsec (openswan) vpn, i get "Maximum retries exceeded for tunnel X.  Closing." messages, and every once in a dozen times i manage to actually connect the vpn. is anyone familiar with such behaviour?
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> you can use custome databases for locate to scan just a mounted 'data drive' for example.
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> davidcalle: really, maybe its set in a config file..
[13:11] <davidcalle> ActionParsnip, probably, yes
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> locate by default does not index stff from /media/
[13:11] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, CPU limit is a good program, No GUI, though. :( actually I am making a similar software to that! That is the key to my idea. thanks.
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> davidcalle: guess it makes it faster for if you mount large network shares ;)
[13:12] <ksbalaji> What is this in my places dropdown menu?(I am not able to see the dropdown menu in applications!) assertion `priv->root != NULL
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  if you're skilled enough, make the gui app, make a ppa of it and hope someone picks it up
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> ksbalaji: are you the owner of ~/Dropbox and below and are you the owner of ~/.dropbox
[13:13] <davidcalle> Naphatul, lenses are on your disk only, but... regarding the Videos lens, it's an issue I'm aware of and will try to solve it in 12.04.1.
[13:14]  * Dr_Willis wonders whats wrong with some of the apps at -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> https://launchpad.net/indicator-cpufreq
[13:14] <Ormie> Dr_Willis, I am checking on it
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> Indicator applet for displaying and changing CPU frequency on-the-fly. It provides the same functionality as the Gnome CPU frequency applet, but doesn't require Gnome panel and works under Unity.
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> i mentioned it earlier. :) theres several others.
[13:14] <ksbalaji> ActionParsnip, I own the PC!
[13:15] <Spider-Pork> Hi. I have a problem with cryptsetup. I'm trying to crypt an external USB disk with cryptsetup 1.4.3 on my kubuntu 11.04. The problem is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028517/ the kernel is 2.6.38-15-generic-pae
[13:15] <Spider-Pork>  Any idea? Thank you
[13:16] <Ca11um> Would this work exactly the same for Ubuntu? http://wiki.multitheftauto.com/wiki/Building_MTASA_Server_on_GNU_Linux#Running_on_a_64_bit_Linux
[13:16] <Ca11um> I did it, as it says, but I still get the error as described
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> Dr_Willis  offtopic discussion: that's why I said earlier: Canonical should focus on apps, not on a shiny fancy interface
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> ksbalaji: there are several accounts on the system, so the fact that you physically own the system doesn't mean your username owns the data
[13:16] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, I can make a GUI but I have problem with using the grid layout in glade and having problem with running every and any GUI program from python
[13:16] <dewey|on> hey, anyone knows where i can find the smbldap-config mentioned in the first reply? https://bugs.launchpad.net/serverguide/+bug/1008019
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  the hardships of a developer ;)
[13:17] <Ormie> ...
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> ksbalaji: it's good to run:  sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME      to make sure :)
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  ive seen 'example/generic' indictor applet code on some sites. :) who needs a fancy gui.
[13:20] <Spider-Pork> Ehm, i can't crypt my disk
[13:20] <JohnDDD> sacarlson: thank you, but I cannot remount, i got "not mounted or bad option"
[13:21] <Naphatul> so there is no way to make lenses search other partitions? i got 2 other 1 with windows installed and the other with just data
[13:21] <Ormie> Is it ok for canonical If I tweak or deeply configure ubuntu to the desired state that a user wants. I am making a program named "Ubuntu Tools"
[13:21] <sacarlson> JohnDDD: I guess you will have to live boot
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  id come up with a better name. :) thats too generic
[13:21] <Ormie> Dr_Willis, What would be a good name?
[13:22] <JohnDDD> sacarlson: thank you, will try it, but i don't have usb key, so i was looking for other options, if there are any
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  YetAnotherUbuntuTweakingTool
[13:22] <LjL> Ormie: to simplify, you can mostly do what you want with Ubuntu as long as you release the sources when you release binaries, but there can be issues with names including "Ubuntu" because of trademarks, so you may want to investigate different names
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> YAUTT
[13:22] <JohnDDD> sacarlson: the only i had i lost somewhere :(
[13:22] <deffrag> Whenever i put my laptop to sleep and the next time it starts it never connects again, i hav to restart the hole system..again. Is there any other better way?
[13:22] <Ormie> Dr_Willis, I can have this on: print("Created by: Suttiwit Sukpinit and people in #ubuntu.")
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> Do we really need another ubuntu tweaking tool? :) i can name 3 i belive...
[13:23] <Naphatul> oh and how can i disable front panel jack detection?
[13:24] <sirriffsalot> Hey! My entire home directory is read-only, creating lots of problems obviously.. is there a way to fix this?
[13:24] <Ormie> Yes
[13:24] <Ormie> sirriffsalot, Not talking to you, though.
[13:24] <Ormie> Dr_Willis, yeah
[13:24] <LjL> sirriffsalot: is it on a separate partition?
[13:24] <sirriffsalot> Ormie: what did I ever do to you? o.O
[13:25] <sirriffsalot> LjL: nono, it's in the local partition
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: is it on it's own partition?
[13:25] <sirriffsalot> Yes
[13:25] <ksbalaji> ActionParsnip, I tried your suggestion and this is the result: balaji@balaji-desktop:~$  sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME[sudo] password for balaji: chown: cannot access `/home/balaji/.gvfs': Permission denied balaji@balaji-desktop:~$  :(
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: boot to liveCD and fsck the partition
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> Toying with gnome-shell, the way you can get extensions for it via the web browser and use https://extensions.gnome.org/local/    is very.. nifty
[13:26] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: just run fsck in the terminal with sudo and that's it?
[13:26] <Ormie> sirriffsalot, Um... You asked a yes-no question. and I happen to say "Yes" to another person.
[13:26] <sirriffsalot> Ormie: oh lol, sorry:)
[13:27] <Spider-Pork> anyone know why cryptsetup return that error?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> !fsck | sirriffsalot
[13:27] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: hmm, ok
[13:28] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: to add some additional information, cause I might be wrong, if I run virtualbox (not as root) it says "Error opening file for reading: Permission denied"
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: are you in the vboxusers group (I think it's that)
[13:29] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: How do I check?
[13:29] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: if I run it as sudo it works fine, so I suppose it's something to do with filepermissions
[13:30] <sirriffsalot> But I don't want to keep running everything as root..
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: don't run GUI apps with sudo, you will wreck file ownerships
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: might be why you are getting the issue
[13:30] <dupmail> If any knowledgeable person can hive me a hand, i just need to understand the linux directory structure. I
[13:30] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: but I got the issue before I did that...
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: if you run:  groups     you will see what groups you are the member of
[13:31] <dupmail> I'm trying to get my netbook to boot off ssd, but have the majority of the file structure on a SD card.
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: you run GUI apps with gksudo :)
[13:31] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: sirriffsalot adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[13:31] <davidcalle> Naphatul, what you can try, is to fiddle with updatedb.conf ( http://askubuntu.com/questions/60202/updatedb-locate-command-problem-files-from-external-hard-drive-are-no-longer ) It should help with the files lens. The videos lens will also require you to put a symlink of the drive/folder where your videos are, in the ~/Videos folder.
[13:31] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: ah
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: there you go, not in the group, let me get the command
[13:31] <dupmail> What is required on the ssd in order to boot? i presume /boot ...and what else?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: sudo usermod -a -G vboxusers $USER
[13:32] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: What do you mean I'm not in the group??
[13:32] <sirriffsalot> Oh
[13:32] <sirriffsalot> Hang on
[13:32] <davidcalle> Naphatul, not a clean solution, but it's being worked on.
[13:32] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: what's -a -G for?
[13:32] <kate_r> hi
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> dupmail  http://binwaheed.blogspot.be/2010/11/linux-directory-structure.html
[13:32] <sirriffsalot> kate_r: hey!
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: -a is to (a)dd and the -G is to add to a supplementary (g)roup
[13:32] <kate_r> what default font and monospace font are you guys using? Ubuntu 11 for default and Ubuntu Mono 13 looks wierd to me.
[13:33] <dupmail> @MonkeyDust will check that out quick...thanks
[13:33] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: ok, hang on:)
[13:33] <geirha> better to use adduser
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> geirha: achieves the same end, how is it better?
[13:33] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: still get the same error message:/
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: you need to log off and on
[13:34] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: ah, hehe.. brb!):
[13:34] <sirriffsalot> :)*
[13:34] <geirha> ActionParsnip: easier syntax
[13:34] <impmaster> How are there only this many messages if there are 1721 users?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> impmaster: people idle
[13:34] <benhelps> Hey all. Trying to install 12.04 server with scant luck. Posts tend to hint it's buggy and needs a retro install via CDROM, or via first installing 12.04 desktop to generate the usb installer. Any word on whether 12.10 will fix this?
[13:34] <geirha> and it does the "right" things when creating users
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> impmaster  not all users are at their desks
[13:35] <benhelps> Or how many versions back I need to go for it to work?
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> geirha: usermod makes a world of sense imho
[13:37] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: Error opening file for reading: Permission denied still... :/
[13:37] <benhelps> (Tried multiple usb sticks - all fail. Tried other distros with said usb sticks - they work and install on the machine in question. Tried regetting 12.04 few times - no diff)
[13:37] <sirriffsalot> The program runs, but I just don't like seeing error messages:P
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: i'd ask in #vbox
[13:37] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: cheers:)
[13:38] <Naphatul> whats the shortcut for changing keyboard input languages (like alt+shift in windows) ?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> Naphatul: eI believe you can set it in the keyboard prefs
[13:39] <dupmail> MonkeyDust: in a nutshell, my netbook cant boot off of the memory card, and the ssd is increadibly slow. So what i'm looking for is to know what (minimum) must be on the ssd so that grub can load sufficiently and then access the rest of the system files from the memory card (SDHC card)...So pretty much having everything on the memory, what do i have to put on the SSD, I presume /boot, do i have to have anything else? I tried it once befo
[13:40] <Naphatul> ActionParsnip, i can't find it it keyboard shortcuts
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> dupmail: there is ubuntu-minimal which install kernel + drivers + boot loader + simple packaging tools and some basic tools
[13:40] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: every time I start a terminal now I see above the usual line the following: "groups: cannot find name for group ID 125"
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> dupmail: sorry misread
[13:40] <ksbalaji> No contact after Dr_Willis typed:..extensions for it via the web browser and use https://extensions.gnome.org/local/    is very.. nifty  ... am I still connected?
[13:40] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: what have you done?:D
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: does the vboxusers group exist?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: this may be the issue. I suggest ou try a reboot first
[13:41] <sirriffsalot> *cough* forgot I have uninstalled vbox, hang on, gonna install it lol
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> d'oh
[13:42] <deepspeed> well thar's yer proble
[13:42] <Spider-Pork> Hi. I have a problem with cryptsetup. I'm trying to crypt an external USB disk with cryptsetup 1.4.3 on my kubuntu 11.04. The problem is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028517/ the kernel is 2.6.38-15-generic-pae. Any idea? Thank you
[13:42] <deepspeed> m
[13:42] <dupmail> ActionParsnip: thanks though =)
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> dupmail  there's this, but mind: it says 8.04   https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/hppa/partitioning.html
[13:44] <benhelps> Any idea which versions of ubuntu server are ok to install via usb. Forums say 12.04 doesn't work without workarounds - does 11.10 work?
[13:44] <dupmail> MonkeyDust: Thanks =) I'll check it out..much appreciated
[13:45] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: brb, reboot just in case
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> dupmail: do you have a floppy drive?
[13:45] <dupmail> ActionParsnip: Lol no...
[13:45] <kRush> hm, I ran some updates and got a notification that grub-pc wants to install a new config file, I chose to have the differences shown but it never did.. how the fuck do I find out what was changed?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> dupmail: dang
[13:45] <Spider-Pork> Hi. I have a problem with cryptsetup. I'm trying to crypt an external USB disk with cryptsetup 1.4.3 on my kubuntu 11.04. The problem is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028517/ the kernel is 2.6.38-15-generic-pae. Any idea? Thank you
[13:45] <Zally666> No everybody has usb
[13:45] <dupmail> ActionParsnip: Ha ha =)
[13:46] <jrib> kRush: was this in the terminal?
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> dupmail: there is a floppy image to boot USB :)
[13:46] <kRush> jrib,  no
[13:46] <jrib> kRush: was the old one kept or the new one installed?
[13:46] <h00k> kRush: also, please keep the langauge appropriate
[13:47] <Tm_T> kRush: language, please
[13:47] <Zally666> Why would usb break?
[13:47] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: nope.. still the same error.. waiting for reply in vbox:)
[13:48] <benhelps> Zally666: to me? Dunno but it fails for me with a can't find cdrom error. Forums have hinted its a bug with misnamed files in pool/l files
[13:48] <benhelps> Zally666: first version I recall having the problem
[13:48] <kRush> jrib,  I have no idea.. I do not know what file it was referencing (didn't show). the dialog just went away, the update completed as far as I can tell. /boot/grub has mod. dates from today /etc/grub.d/ has not
[13:49] <Zally666> Maybe a sabotage?
[13:49] <jrib> kRush: my guess would be /etc/default/grub
[13:49] <benhelps> Zally666: heh spose anythings possible
[13:49] <Netsho> Hey guys. just installed ubuntu and nvidia drivers. Ran sudo nvidia-xconfig and now I am stuck with 640x480
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> Netsho:  ran nvidia-settings yet?
[13:50] <Netsho> yes
[13:50] <kRush> jrib, if so it wasn't altered
[13:50] <Zally666> Try remastersys to cd or usb
[13:50] <Netsho> 640 and 320 available
[13:50] <Bentheplantguy> Need help mounting external drive.  No /media/external mount point.  fdisk -l  not showing device
[13:51] <jrib> kRush: you can reinstall the package (and possibly pass confask to dpkg)
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> if 'sudo fdisk -l' or 'sudo blkid' dont show the device.. id check dmesg for errors, andperhaps reboot and see if the bios shows the device
[13:51] <bcurtiswx> whats the best UPS software for Linux/Ubuntu ?
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Bentheplantguy:  what sort of device is it?
[13:52] <Bentheplantguy> WD external HD
[13:52] <Netsho> Dr_Willis: I've followed this ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1857772&highlight=edid ) thread, but I can't get that EDID thing
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> Bentheplantguy:  then you plug it in, check dmesg output.
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> Netsho:  al ive ever had to do with my nviia cards is  install drivers, run nvidia-settings and save the new xorg.conf.
[13:53] <OerHeks> Bentheplantguy, did you use " sudo fdisk -l " ??
[13:53] <Netsho> yeah. But the resolution is f up
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> Bentheplantguy  what OerHeks says: don't forget sudo
[13:54] <Bentheplantguy> Dr_Willis: what is check dmesg command?
[13:54] <dupmail> G2g...thanks for eveyone's help
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> Bentheplantguy:  run 'dmesg' look for errors a few moments after plugging in the drive
[13:54] <nina666> hi... my laptop keeps hanging and freezing... im really getting annoyed, what should i do???
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> plug in, count to 10, run tail dmesg
[13:54] <Bentheplantguy> i used sudo fdisk -l, didn't list device
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> !details| nina666
[13:55] <Netsho> Guess I'll go back to my sweet Windows. Linux is way to hard to configure
[13:55] <Netsho> ty
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> i find it easier to convigure then windows..
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> Netsho  i use linux because win ios too hard to configure
[13:55] <Netsho> lool
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> is*
[13:55] <Netsho> then help me guys with the resolution
[13:55]  * Dr_Willis also hates having to spend hrs defragging/scanning for viruse and so forth. :)
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: I don't have to configure much here at all, works all OOTB :)
[13:56] <Netsho> I'd like to stick with linux
[13:56] <Spider-Pork> Hi. I have a problem with cryptsetup. I'm trying to crypt an external USB disk with cryptsetup 1.4.3 on my kubuntu 11.04. The problem is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028517/ the kernel is 2.6.38-15-generic-pae. Any idea? Thank you
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> Netsho:  more details would be handy. like your exact video card.. but iuf you are going to just give up easially ........
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> Netsho: what are you configuring?
[13:56] <bcurtiswx> I have a new APC UPS system, what software supports that system?
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> bcurtiswx:  check the package manager. should be serveral in there
[13:56] <nina666> sry aabout that... im running ubuntu 12.04, the freezing happens frequently! (few times per hour)... without any particular reason. and everything gets stuck i cant even do a Ctrl+Alt+del or go to tty Ctrl+Alt+F1,...
[13:56] <Netsho> Dr_willis: 8500gt, ActionParsnip: My resolution is way too low
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> nina666  unity with the cube effect etc?
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> Netsho:  so was teh res correct befor you installed the nvidia drivers?
[13:57] <benhelps> Nina666: hardware failing? Eg video card
[13:57] <Netsho> the max was 1024*768
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Netsho: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current; sudo nvidia-xconfig
[13:57] <nina666> MonkeyDust, yes its running... although the cube does not actually work but i think i previously set it in compiz settings
[13:57] <Bentheplantguy> plugged in device, ran 'dmesg', didn't see errors
[13:57] <nina666> benhelps, how to check that?
[13:57] <Netsho> ActionParsnip: did that already
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> Bentheplantguy:  you waited a few moments? then ran it? try again a few secconds later
[13:58] <Bentheplantguy> 10 sec
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> nina666  my advice is to disable some or all of the effects
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> Bentheplantguy:  if dmesg is showing NOTHING about that device.. then you got somthng very weird going on.
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> it could at least show usb device inserted.. or similer...
[13:58] <nina666> btw, maybe i should also mention that recently I upgraded my RAM from 4GB to 16GB and i feel the freezing is more frequent than before..
[13:58] <Netsho> ActionParsnip: my problem is close to this I guess: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1857772&highlight=edid
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Netsho: then you'll be playing with xorg.conf a little. I can send you mine if you want to try...
[13:59] <Bentheplantguy> no, no.  it shows long list of info.  but not sure what i'm looking for in all of it
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Netsho: sounds like a junky display :D
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> heres my xorg.conf for a Nvidia 520, on a 1080p monitor --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028620/
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Netsho: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028621
[13:59] <nina666> btw, maybe i should also mention that recently I upgraded my RAM from 4GB to 16GB and i feel the freezing is more frequent than before..MonkeyDust
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> Bentheplantguy:  at the end, it should mention some* devices
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> nina666: have you tested the RAM using memtest?
[14:00] <Dr_Willis>  sd* devices. :)
[14:00] <nina666> MonkeyDust, should i disable my opengl as well?
[14:00] <nina666> ActionParsnip, no. let me do that..
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> nina666: well if the new ram caused the issue, isn't that he first thing you'd suspect....?
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> Bentheplantguy:  similer to -->  [45781.487869] usb 2-1.1: new high-speed USB device number 11 using ehci_hcd
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> [45782.598648] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdg] 3913728 512-byte logical blocks: (2.00 GB/1.86 GiB)
[14:01] <LucidGuy> I have the following in my sudoers   DEVELOPERS      ALL=(micedev) NOPASSWD: ALL      yet the users within the DEVELOPERS user_alias still are prompted for a password when they attempt "su micedev"  sudo -u micedev works fine.
[14:01] <Bentheplantguy> "[ 1292.952107] usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3" ?
[14:01] <Bentheplantguy> yeah
[14:01] <nina666> ActionParsnip, the ram didnt cause it actually. i feel it increased abit after the upgrade..
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> nina666: its worth isolating out. If you run: uname -m   what is output?
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> Bentheplantguy:  notice the 'sdg' - thats the device in my case.
[14:02] <Bentheplantguy> [ 4219.289871] usb 1-3: USB disconnect, address 3
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> disconnet? Hmm. the drive hung up/disconnected
[14:02] <nina666> ActionParsnip, x86_64
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> nina666: good :)
[14:02] <Bentheplantguy> improper unmounting?  how can i fix?
[14:03] <Ormie> Can SOme one think of a name for my software for ubuntu?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Bentheplantguy: boot to liveCD and fsck if it's an internal partition. Or if its USB / SD card based then fsck there.
[14:03] <ariana> Ormie, what is the soft for? what does it do?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: how do you mean?
[14:03] <Ormie> Dr_Willis, What are the 3 names you can think, that you said long ago?
[14:04] <nina666> ActionParsnip, btw, i should install memtest86 or memtester?
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> nina666  as for me, i use no desktop effects at all, works smoothly
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> perhaps write the software first.. then worry about the software. :)  OrmiesYetAnotherTweakerTool
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> nina666: hold shift at boot and select memtest
[14:04] <nina666> MonkeyDust, how about opengl?
[14:04] <mneptok> Ormie: please stay on-topic, which is technical support.
[14:04] <Spider-Pork> Hi. I have a problem with cryptsetup. I'm trying to crypt an external USB disk with cryptsetup 1.4.3 on my kubuntu 11.04. The problem is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028517/ the kernel is 2.6.38-15-generic-pae. Any idea? Thank you
[14:04] <DJones> Ormie: Thinking of a name for software might be a better question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  other ubnut tweaking tools? theres Ubuntu-tweak, MyUnity, and Gnome-tweak-tool   I belive.. there may be others
[14:04] <nina666> ActionParsnip, ok. noted :) then I'll have to restart and come back tell u..
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: why not just contribute to one of the already standing aps.
[14:05] <Ormie> ?
[14:05] <nina666> ActionParsnip, MonkeyDust, brb...
[14:05] <Ormie> nvm
[14:05] <Bentheplantguy> how do i boot to liveCD when i have no control over the device?  aside from finding th port where it says "disconnected"?
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: instead of making new, help with one that already exists
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> Bentheplantguy:  whens the last time you ever used that external hard drive? in any OS.
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Bentheplantguy: sudo fdisk -l    will show the available partitions
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> Bentheplantguy:  if its disconnecting automatically. that points to some issue - perhaps in the hardware/cable/power/ports
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Bentheplantguy: if its external, EVERY TIME you disconnect it, remember to use the 'safe remove' feature. It's in all modern OSes
[14:06] <Bentheplantguy> sudo fdisk -l only shows internal HD partition
[14:07] <Bentheplantguy> Dr_Willis: fist used a year ago, haven't been able to connect since.
[14:08] <Bentheplantguy> yeah i know safe remove.  but i'm running ubuntu on a very old dell.  it freezes and crashes from time to time
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> soubnds like that drive may be dead to me....
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> I need to return a dead drive also... gotta do that this week
[14:09] <xun1l> hello guys, how can i see the source code of the driver for usb mouse ??
[14:09] <nina666> ActionParsnip, ok this was interesting..
[14:09] <ikonia> xun1l: look in the kernel
[14:09] <nina666> ActionParsnip, how usually the results of memtest should be?
[14:09] <ikonia> xun1l: (assuming you mean the driver the kernel is using)
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> nina666: no red output
[14:10] <xun1l> ikonia: yup
[14:10] <ikonia> xun1l: check the kernel source then
[14:10] <xun1l> can u be more specific, new to this..
[14:10] <xun1l> where to find that ??
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> nina666: if the screen stays blue and the top progress abr just moves, the ram is ok, if you get red scrolling in the bottom right section you have bad ram
[14:11] <nina666> ActionParsnip, i didnt get any red input, but everything was done very fast, less than 10 secs (is that normal?) it started scanning and quickly reached 100% and suddenly reset..
[14:11] <shanky_ty> xun1l: google it
[14:11] <xun1l> shanky_ty, chup ho ja saale
[14:11] <nina666> ActionParsnip, then i think was ok, the only weired thing for me was that why everythink was so quickly with a quick reset without any prompt..
[14:11] <shanky_ty> xun1l: dude this is english channel ..
[14:11] <ikonia> xun1l: kernel.org has the base kernel source
[14:12] <nina666> ActionParsnip, i expected a success/error message to appear
[14:12] <nina666> ActionParsnip, but suddenly turned off and reset back
[14:12] <sipior> xun1l: you'll probably want to start here if you'd like to get involved in the community: http://kernelnewbies.org/
[14:13] <shanky_ty> xun1l: lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/hid/usbhid/usbmouse.c
[14:13] <nina666> ActionParsnip,  ok now, should i disable my opengl?
[14:14] <shanky_ty> irc://oftc/kernelnewbies
[14:14] <ikonia> shanky_ty: please don't
[14:14] <xun1l> shanky_ty: thnx  :P
[14:14] <Bentheplantguy> When mounting, can I use something like '[ 4399.636033]' instead of a name/location like /dev/sdb1 ?
[14:14] <shanky_ty> ikonia: ??
[14:14] <ikonia> Bentheplantguy: you can mount a device on any valid mount point
[14:15] <OerHeks> nina666, when your pc resets during memtest86, i say it is a hardware failure, probably memory.
[14:15] <dorgan> ok i know doing    command > file   put the output of the command into the file   but is there a way to append to a file?
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> Bentheplantguy:  untill the os gives the hd a proper /dev/sdXX  you are not going to be doing much of anything with it.
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> Bentheplantguy:  that ##### is a timestamp of the kernel logging  i belive
[14:17] <pokkos> dorgan: command >> file
[14:18] <Bentheplantguy> Thanks Dr_Willis.  is there a way to flash the drive and mount from scratch?  if i mkdir /media/external, will that alter the recognition of fdisk -l?
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> dorgan:  check some bash docs on > >> and  'command output redirection'
[14:18] <dorgan> pokkos: perfect thanks
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> Bentheplantguy:  if the os is not giveing it a  /dev/sdXX name.you cant do much of anything with it...
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> its as if its not even plugged in
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> Bentheplantguy:   id check the cables and listen to the hd and be sure its even spinning up
[14:19] <Kornkage4> http://i.imgur.com/51Rp2.jpg
[14:20] <Bentheplantguy> it spins up, and it's a brand new USB 2/3 cable.  i think i just corrupted the drive when my computer crashed
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> Kornkage4  wrong channel, not he
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> re
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> Bentheplantguy: could try plugging it into a windows box
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> hard drives are the weakest link in hardware these days it seems
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: true but you can make it bearable. 24 SSDs in RAID ;)
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> i dont even own a single sdd. yet.. :)
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: me neither
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> been watching them go on sale every so often.. but $100 for a 100gb SSD is nice.. but still way to tiny for me ;P
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: just put /usr os the SSD and the rest on playyer based :)
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> I dont have a raid.. i got a 'Reduant Stack of External USB hard Drives' ;)
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> just one here for backup
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> plus dropbox for my configs and scripts
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> i got backups of my backups. ;)
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> mainly wifes videos for her Media Watching Needs..
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> So i got one Media Server, and then backups of the videos its serving. just in case.
[14:36] <vmeson> My system was trashing this morning. kern.log says: INFO: task jbd2/sda3-8:936 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: fileserver + usb backup every week
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> vmeson: are you doing any HDD intensive tasks?
[14:37] <vmeson> This is not reproducible, should I still file a bug report?
[14:37] <Bentheplantguy> Dr_Willis: HD recognized on mac.... ?
[14:37] <vmeson> ActionParsnip: no.
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> My New TV - i can attatch 3 external USB hds to it. :)
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> Bentheplantguy: you are asking a question?
[14:38] <vmeson> ActionParsnip: well, I did a back-up yesterday  but the problem started hours after that when I was away from my system.
[14:38] <Bentheplantguy> haha, well if it's recognized there, then the drive isn't flawed from improper unmounting.  so why isn't my OS recognizing it?
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> i would guess cable, or port, or power.
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> vmeson: have you rebooted since?
[14:39] <vmeson> first sign of trouble: 22:23 ET,  checked system at 10:00 and it was very slow to respond and the disk io light was flashing like mad.
[14:39] <vmeson> ActionParsnip: yes.
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> vmeson: does top show any high CPU usages?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> vmeson: anything using lots of RAM which wil then use swap?
[14:40] <tom_> Hey is there a way to remove a launcher that I created and droped on the applet bar
[14:40] <vmeson> ActionParsnip: quasselclient - ~5%
[14:40] <vmeson> yes, I blame chrome and my addition to tabs...
[14:40] <Byly> hi
[14:40] <vmeson> oom-killer should have visited in that case...
[14:41] <Bentheplantguy> cable/power all the same.  safe eject on Mac, moved USB to port i just used to print document.  still doesn't recognize
[14:41] <Byly> there are any option to force the user to set a passphrase in his public key?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> vmeson: if you kill chrome, is it ok?
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> Bentheplantguy:  what filesystem is on that hard drive?
[14:42] <vmeson> ActionParsnip: it's okay after a reboot..
[14:42] <xangua> vmeson: just happened the same with a hundred tabs on firefox jum
[14:43] <Bentheplantguy> i'm not sure, i've only booted it twice now.  i tried force mounting before with fat 16/32 and ntsf commands, but neither got me anywhere
[14:43] <vmeson> xangua: yeah...  linux/ubuntu needs a mechanism to kill tabs in web browsers when memory is low..
[14:43]  * vmeson googles to see if someone has done that yet...
[14:44] <auronandace> vmeson: that would be the wrong way of going about it
[14:44] <jarubyh> I'm trying dual boot 12.04 with Windows XP, but gParted says the minimum size for the XP partition is pretty much my whole disk. I've tried mounting it and 'df -h', and apparently only 20% is used. Any ideas?
[14:44]  * vmeson finds: http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/chromiumos-design-docs/out-of-memory-handling
[14:44] <vmeson> auronandace: why?
[14:45] <auronandace> vmeson: if the browser is using too much resources the browser is at fault, not the kernel
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> vmeson: each tab in chrome/ium is a process, helps for killing them off :)
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> jarubyh:  you may want to have windows scandisk and defrag befor you try to resize with gparted
[14:45] <jarubyh> Dr_Willis: Thanks, is there a tool in Windows I can use?
[14:45] <vmeson> auronandace: the process should monitor for low system resources, or run in a container I suppose but
[14:46] <vmeson> auronandace: in extreme cases, there should be: initially a notification from the kernel that it's gettign trigger happy, later oom-killer should take out an easily restored tab/process.
[14:46] <jabes> I'm having trouble setting up netbeans c/c++?
[14:47] <kyle__> Two things changed at once: 11.10->12.04 and unity2d->unity, and now my system is unstable.  Has anyone else experienced this?  It's a core-i5 lenovo with a run-of-the-mill intel chipset integrated everything.
[14:47] <kyle__> jabes: Errr, how did you install netbeans?
[14:47] <jarubyh> jabes: Expound.
[14:47] <auronandace> vmeson: if you fork that responsibility off to the kernel then you are encouraging browser makers to be lazy
[14:47] <ska> using 12.04 and  RTL8111/8168B card. I installed the r8168-dkms, but system will not wake on lan.
[14:47] <vmeson> auronandace: I prefer belt and suspenders: process try to behave, the kernel needs an oom policy.
[14:48] <jabes> kyle__: i download it with just the java compliers and installed the c/c++ plugin
[14:48] <jabes> then i download the c dev libraries
[14:48] <ska> Any ideas on wake-on-lan fix?
[14:48] <kyle__> ska: It may need bios settings as well.  Also, if it's not an integrated nic, you may need to hookup a WOL cable from the nic to the mobo.
[14:48] <kyle__> K
[14:48] <jabes> jarubyh: what's Expound?
[14:48] <kyle__> jabes: So under plugins, it shows c/c++ in the installed tab?
[14:49] <kyle__> jabes: And there's a green circle with a checkmark by it.
[14:49] <jabes> kyle__: yeah i think its not find the library
[14:49] <ska> kyle__: It worked before i upgraded from 10.04
[14:49] <kyle__> ska: Ooh.  then all that stuff should be taken care of.
[14:50] <kyle__> jabes: Under options, is there a c++ section?
[14:51] <jabes> kyle__: which options?
[14:51] <ska> kyle__: I'll double check the bios, but I don't thing it was changed.
[14:51] <jabes> under tools?
[14:52] <miscff> i installed utily-2d, but i can not see utily-2d when i login to X with lightdm.  how to use utily-2d?
[14:52] <jabes> kyle__ yeah there's a c/c++ section
[14:52] <kyle__> jabes: Under one of the menus, there's an options selection.  It brings up a window where you can set general settings editor keymap etc... Also there should be a C/C++ section where you tell it what compiler to use.
[14:52] <Bentheplantguy> Dr_Willis?: what do you think about reformatting in FAT through OSX?
[14:52] <kyle__> jabes: If there isn't a tool collection, click add, setup one for the gnu compiler & tools
[14:52] <jabes> kyle__ yeah i have it set to use gcc
[14:53] <xangua> miscff: clic on the little ubuntu icon next to your user name, and select it
[14:53] <xangua> in the login screen*
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> Bentheplantguy:  Why do you need it to be fat?
[14:53] <kyle__> jabes: Hum.  Then I don't know what to tell you, since it's always worked for me, if I have the plugin and the compiler specified, it works.  What isn't working for you?
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> Bentheplantguy:  you could just delete the paritons. and then plug it back in and see if linux sees it.
[14:54] <jabes> kyle__ i think the problem is the C dev library isn't included some how
[14:54] <jabes> kyle__ i had to use synaptic to down the library
[14:55] <ilovezoo> hi, i want to install another linux distro. my computer already has  4 primary partitions (3 are for Windows7, one is for linux). how do i install another linux distro?
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> ilovezoo:  you will need to somehow convert one to a logical to hold extended paritons.. or use a differnt hd
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> !install| ilovezoo
[14:56] <ilovezoo> Dr_Willis: i only have one hard drive (in my laptop).
[14:56] <vmeson> ilovezoo: or use a virtual machine.
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> ilovezoo:  guess you go the first way then...
[14:56]  * Dr_Willis has a laptop with 2 hds. ;)
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> and weighs a ton....
[14:57] <ilovezoo> vmeson: doesn't using virtual machine mean slower experience? my computer is not very powerful
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: is it a quosmio?
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> ilovezoo:  given the other option is some major redoing of the hd.
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  yep a X505
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: what a guess!!
[14:57] <kyle__> jabes: When you say the c dev library are you referring to ubuntu's or netbeans'?
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> my brother has it now :) its using it as his main game machine.
[14:58] <jabes> kkyle__ ubuntu's
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> Thing + its Power supply and case = like 20lbs.. :)
[14:58] <kyle__> and sorry for the lab, It's daddy day so I'm constantly running off to make sure the kiddos aren't injuring eachother.
[14:58] <SajjaD> i got this error when i want to install everything. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028746/
[14:58] <jabes> kyle__ ubuntu's
[14:58] <kyle__> jabes: if you install the build-essential metapackage you should get everything needed.
[14:58] <ilovezoo> Can I hand my 2nd linux distro to the same partition as my first distro (which is already installed)?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: my D420 is 3.17lbs with 4 cell battery :)
[14:59] <ilovezoo> hand --> have
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> ilovezoo:  most likely.. no.
[14:59] <ilovezoo> oops. i mean "Can I add"
[14:59] <jabes> kyle__ build-essential metapackage? is that with the plugin section?
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> ilovezoo:  what 2 disrtos are you using?
[14:59] <ilovezoo> Dr_Willis: 2 ubuntu flavors
[14:59] <ilovezoo> mint and linux
[15:00] <ilovezoo> oops. i mean mint and ubuntu
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> ilovezoo:   dare i ask.. why bother. ;)
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> pretty much
[15:01] <kyle__> jabes: No in ubuntu.  If you install that metapackage, you have all the libs and binaries ubuntu needs.  That + netbeans + c/c++ plugin should be all you need.
[15:01] <Bentheplantguy> in disk utility, it only recognizes the main partition "my book" and wont let me delete that.  i say fat because it only offers me that or Mac OS Extended file systems.  i don't know how to format manually to ntfs.
[15:01] <SajjaD> i got this error :
[15:01] <SajjaD> dpkg: error: /var/lib/dpkg/info/format is corrupted, it should contain a database format version (an integer)
[15:01] <SajjaD> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[15:01] <SajjaD> what is it about
[15:01] <Ormie> is there a way to revert everything back since after i did a clean install of ubuntu
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> SajjaD: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028756   try that
[15:02] <jabes> kyle__ ok I'll go look for it thanks
[15:02] <OerHeks> Ormie no, unless you made a snapshot.
[15:03] <Ormie> OerHeks, What is the maximum range of data I can restore up to?
[15:03] <OerHeks> Ormie, restore?
[15:03] <Ormie> yeah
[15:03] <isleofmandan> Apologies if this info exists somewhere obvious (I've looked and can't find!) but does anyone here know how to get my Galaxy Nexus phone to talk to Ubuntu 12.04 ?  I just want to transfer some files and neither PTP or MTP is working for me.
[15:04] <OerHeks> Ormie, restoring data has nothing to do with the ubuntu install.
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> isleofmandan: http://askubuntu.com/questions/87667/getting-mtp-to-work-with-a-galaxy-nexus
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> isleofmandan: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-connect-your-android-ice-cream-sandwich-phone-to-ubuntu-for-file-access
[15:05] <Ormie> OerHeks, Let's make this clear again
[15:05] <jabes> kyle__ build-essential for creating debian packages?
[15:05] <Ormie> OerHeks, What is the maximum range of settings or/and data I can restore up to?
[15:06] <auronandace> Ormie: thats not clearer
[15:06] <kyle__> jabes: Wait, you want to create .debs?  That's a whole different set of packages, and I'm not familiar with them :/ sorry
[15:07] <jabes> kyle__ no I'm asking because that all i could find called  build-essential metapackage
[15:07] <isleofmandan> ActionParsnip:  Thank you!
[15:07] <brodro> Does anyone know if it
[15:07] <kyle__> hum.
[15:07] <brodro> is it possible to access steam and games like portal 2 on ubuntu?
[15:08] <kyle__> jabes: Stupid question, did you make a simple c program and comile it from the command line?  Did it work?
[15:08] <kyle__> jabes: Make sure there isn't something more basic going wrong.
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> !wine | brodro
[15:08] <jabes> kyle__ yeah that worked fine
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> brodro:  steam and some games work with wine
[15:08] <OerHeks> Ormie, ubuntu has no restorepoints, so you should backup your system or data yourself.
[15:09] <kyubutsu> use dejadup, works
[15:09] <Ormie> ok
[15:09] <jabes> kyle__ i'm sure netbeans isn't finding the library which i why it's giving me 'can not find file' errors
[15:09] <kyle__> jabes: I think it's time you checked with the #netbeans folks, sorry :/
[15:10] <jabes> kyle__ okay thanks, but can you do me a favor? in c/c++ tab can you look in code assistance and post the directories?
[15:11] <Duka> alguem pode judar com : Change your OpenPGP keys
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> !es
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[15:11] <dr3mro> hello does rebuilding apps with apt-build realt boost performance ?
[15:11] <msch> hey, in 12.04 it seems there's no longer a /boot/grub/menu.lst where do i set kernel parameters now?
[15:11] <abdo> I need some help for LAMP
[15:12] <DJones> !grub2 | msch
[15:12] <kyle__> jabes: sure.
[15:12] <TheShrub> !^L
[15:12] <gits1225> Is there a way to integrate terminal into nautilus? like on the bottom or something?
[15:12] <msch> DJones: thanks!
[15:12] <sacarlson> abdo: to do what with lamp?
[15:12] <DJones> msch: That last link should be the most helpful
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> gits1225: http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/nautilus-terminal-embed-linux-terminal-to-nautilus-file-browser/
[15:13] <kyubutsu> menu.cfg
[15:13] <abdo> to translate my bank statemnt to chart
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> msch: you set boot options in /etc/default/grub
[15:13] <wdp> Hey. I just installed linux-image... 3.0.0-20-generic-pae.. After reboot, nvidia was not properly working anymore. A re-install of nvidia seems to not work at all.
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> msch: run:  sudo update-grub   after adding them, the default options are: quiet splash
[15:14] <thiagomds> Good Morning my name`s Thiago, I`m from Brazil
[15:14] <msch> ActionParsnip: ah perfect
[15:14] <wdp> Is this a known bug or something?
[15:14] <abdo> can i put my data to openofice  then move to my sql
[15:14] <thiagomds> I need to help for install GPC
[15:14] <gits1225> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> wdp: try running:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install dkms
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> gits1225: all I did was websearch....
[15:14] <thiagomds> I need to study Pascal but i don`t have in my computer compiler GPC
[15:15] <root-> g
[15:15] <gits1225> ActionParsnip: But when it comes from someone who knows what he is talking about, it makes a world of difference. Google is not human :P
[15:15] <msch> also does anyone have any ideas why changing the resolution via fbset doesn't work?
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> !info gpc | thiagomds
[15:15] <sacarlson> abdo: not directly as far as I know,  maybe with ruby or other programing language, might be easier to create coma delemited then import into mysql, but what to use to display mysql data?
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> !find gpc | thiagomds
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> gits1225: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=nautilus+terminal&kp=1   is all I did
[15:16] <wdp> ActionParsnip, not working; "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.0.0-20-generic-pae (i686)"
[15:16] <jabes> I installed "C dev library" using synaptic. what is the path to the library?
[15:16] <gits1225> ActionParsnip: no comeback there...
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> wdp: probably the issue then, do you have the headers for the kernel
[15:16] <Urkman1|FFXII> Hello all
[15:16] <wdp> how do i check?
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> wdp: dpkg -l | grep linux | grep head
[15:17] <unkn-error|znc> how can I change hostname in ubuntu precise?
[15:17] <thiagomds> so have i to install my computer this tree things
[15:17] <unkn-error|znc> is there a easy way, whitout having problems?
[15:17] <thiagomds>  claws-mail-pgpmime, libgpcl-dev, libgpcl0
[15:17] <wdp> ActionParsnip, yeah. headers are installed (2.6.32* 3.0.0-20* and generic-pae)
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> unkn-error|znc: run:   gksudo gedit /etc/hostname &       then run:  gksudo gedit /etc/hosts      and edit BOTH files, then save them. Don't edit either til they are both open.
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> wdp: hmm, not sure then. Are there any bugs reported? Is there a dkms log in /var/log ?
[15:18] <unkn-error|znc> thx
[15:18] <abdo> to apply for visa  to the uk bec its reqired the bankstament
[15:19] <abdo> i want to write a Pargraph of my bank statement
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> thiagomds  guess only the gpc libs
[15:19] <wdp> ActionParsnip, no dkms there; the make.log says "unable to determine the target kernel version" and in /usr/src/ is no folder called "linux" as i know it from different distributions.
[15:19] <wdp> ActionParsnip, probably thats the reason
[15:19] <sacarlson> abdo: how about export your spread sheet to pdf and just publish that on your web page
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> wdp: sounds liekly, are there bugs reported. You've found some pretty good stuff so far
[15:20] <tomtiger11> DONG!
[15:20] <msch> how do the kernel vga parameters work? how can i say i want 1920x1080
[15:20] <tomtiger11> Oops
[15:20] <Ormie> When you have the normal ubuntu desktop, you get to a mode that runs the graphic mode, right?
[15:20] <tomtiger11> :L
[15:20] <r0tha> msch: click the windows key
[15:21] <abdo> Im learning english and want to write a pargraph about it
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  yes, the default is Unity
[15:21] <wdp> ActionParsnip, thats why i'm asking here :) no i haven't checked for bugs yet (hence i asked if there are any known ones) anyway, does your ubuntu have /usr/src/linux? if yes, what would i need to install to get the kernel unpacked there?
[15:21] <msch> r0tha: what?
[15:21] <r0tha> search from display i believe those setting will be there
[15:21] <dr3mro> hello does rebuilding apps with apt-build realt boost performance ?
[15:21] <Ormie> And I uninstall unity, How do I switch to the mode that runs the terminal right when you start?
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> msch: change: #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480   to: GRUB_GFXMODE=1920x1080
[15:21] <msch> ActionParsnip: ah so no vga=whatever, thanks again :)
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> msch: you can use hwinfo to see if you can use that res using framebuffer, or it may not show
[15:22] <Ormie> I am not attempting it for real, I am making a tweaker.
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> msch: didn't the text in the file kinda give it away..
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> !text| Ormie
[15:22] <abdo> ok i ve to go thanks alot SACARLSON
[15:22] <msch> ActionParsnip: didn't look at it, i didn't expect linux to actually be that easy to configure. i remember setting vga=...
[15:23] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, Can I switch while being in the terminal instead?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> msch: its very easy :), mostly text files
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> msch  "15:55 < Netsho> Guess I'll go back to my sweet Windows. Linux is way to hard to configure" ;)
[15:24] <msch> ActionParsnip: yeah last time i used linux on the desktop it wasn't that easy :)
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  havent tried
[15:24] <Ormie> :(
[15:24] <wdp> ActionParsnip, any idea?
[15:24] <msch> MonkeyDust: i disagree :) i fixed a compilation bug in a proprietary kernel module just now and i could never have done that on windows :)
[15:25]  * msch feels proud
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> wdp: all I can suggest is report a bug will all that stuff you found
[15:25] <wdp> nah. i'll just go the manual way then.
[15:25] <Ormie> Anyone else?
[15:25] <dr3mro> hello does rebuilding apps with apt-build realt boost performance ?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> dr3mro: could try it with an app or two
[15:27] <dr3mro> ActionParsnip, did any one here try it out .. it's said to boost performance on debian !!
[15:28] <mneptok> dr3mro: my experience is that with "boost performance" it usually means "over the entire life of the machine, the time gained in the performance boost is offset 476593652986% by the time spent recompiling stuff." why bother?
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> dr3mro  try with an app and report in the channel, for future reference
[15:28] <dr3mro> MonkeyDust, OK
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> dr3mro: tried it ages ago tbh, can't remember. Give it a try
[15:31] <Ormie> I want to switch to the text-only mode on terminal, how?
[15:31] <jrib> Ormie: why?
[15:32] <xangua> !text | Ormie
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  ctrl-alt F1, perhaps?
[15:32] <Ormie> jrib, I am not gonna do it for real, I am making a tweaker.
[15:32] <jrib> Ormie: I have no idea what that means
[15:32] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, SOmething that will run text all the time.
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  something like ubuntu-tweak?
[15:33] <Ormie> Yes
[15:33] <Ormie> a clone of that
[15:33] <Bentheplantguy> I formated a WD external HD to FAT in OSX.  but ubuntu still wont recognize device (sudo fdisk -l).  ideas?
[15:33] <Ormie> and probably better
[15:33] <JuJuBee> I need help.  I cannot get to jquery.com from my computer,  I checked using http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ and it is up, but I cannot access it.  I use google for dns (8.8.8.8) but changed to others and same problem.  Any help?
[15:33] <Ormie> :(
[15:33] <Ormie> 3 helps pending
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  don't forget to apt-get update
[15:34] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, That is age old, now I am asking you are question
[15:34] <Ormie> does It use "init 3" the same as openSUSE?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[15:35] <JuJuBee> yes
[15:35] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: all other sites I try load fine
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: are you fully updated?
[15:35] <Ormie> ?
[15:35] <Ormie> ???
[15:36] <Ormie> ??????
[15:36] <SajjaD> ActionParsnip: i got errors on lines 14,17,18,19 when running this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028756.
[15:36] <SajjaD> the result is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028787/
[15:36] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: no, still using 11.10
[15:36] <SajjaD> ActionParsnip: what to do now?
[15:36] <LmAt> Where can I find a list of the possible parameters to fg?  (job id)
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: thats fully supported, as long as you have the latest packages for Oneiric you are ok
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> SajjaD: can you pastebn the errors please
[15:36] <nOStahl> woot fixed my 1.8 inch 30 gig zif drive and fired up my old eeepc 901 with ubuntu 12.04
[15:36] <SajjaD> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028787/
[15:36] <nOStahl> hows everyone doing today
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: what IP do you get for jquery.com ?
[15:37] <Ormie> :(
[15:37] <LmAt> n0cturnal: fine.  Are you ready to answer my question?
[15:37] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: 70.32.73.125
[15:37] <LmAt> oops, I meant nOStahl :)
[15:37] <Ormie> I shall flood my desktop with compiz water effect, then
[15:37] <nOStahl> what queston
[15:38] <WeissLehrer> What do I do when /proc/sys/net/ip_forward dows not exist? <o>
[15:38] <Onixs> 12.0.4 on my powerbook
[15:38] <LmAt> nOStahl: Where can I find a list of the possible parameters to fg?  (job id)
[15:38] <nOStahl> google? :P
[15:39] <LmAt> nOStahl: crap.  It worked !
[15:39] <LmAt> nOStahl: Right when you suggested, I thought of the good search phrase "list all job ids" :)
[15:39] <LmAt> nOStahl: Thanks! ^_^
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: same here
[15:39] <nOStahl> np lol
[15:39] <grahamoz> *Laughs* Onixs how well does Ubuntu run on your powerbook ?
[15:39] <JonEdney> Anyone have any fixes for Unity 3D not working?  I installed Gnome and didn't like it, now I can;t go back.
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> JonEdney: Unity is a shell for Gnome, when you were running Unity, you had gnome running
[15:40] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: any other ideas?  I can get to it if I use a cgi proxy running on my hosting provider...
[15:40] <Onixs> kinda slow.Lol
[15:40] <Chuck_Norris> WeissLehrer: try /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[15:41] <JonEdney> I installed GnomeClassic and selected it from the login screen.  Didn't care for it.  When I select Ubuntu 3D now, the screen just shows my background image, no interface.
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> JonEdney: tried Unity2D?
[15:41] <JonEdney> It partially works.
[15:41] <WeissLehrer> Chuck_Norris: thx, that was it
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: maybe your ISP is having issues..
[15:41] <Chuck_Norris> np
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: could reboot router, then system.
[15:42] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: a tracepath... http://pastebin.com/7nQT4eRv
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: are other browsers the same?
[15:42] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: yes, all browsers and cli
[15:43] <JonEdney> ActionParsnip, I'm on Unity 2D now, but it seems glitchy, I have to select things 2-3 times to get them to respond, or they just dont respond at all.
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: I'd try a router reboot, then a PC reboot
[15:44] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: can't reboot router, it is my server in my classroom...
[15:46] <Ubuntu_Guru> Good day to all :)
[15:46] <Chuck_Norris> aloha
[15:46] <Ubuntu_Guru> Hehehe, good old Chuck!
[15:47]  * Ubuntu_Guru wants to know if anyone here works for Canonical? I have just seen an opening for a User Support Agent and I will DO ANYTHING for that job!!!
[15:47] <wdp> Ubuntu_Guru, k. jump out of the window.
[15:47] <wdp> (not funny?)
[15:47] <Ubuntu_Guru> not so much :)
[15:47] <wdp> :>
[15:48] <Ubuntu_Guru> I have been unemployed for several months looking for a position in NGO or open-source ecology
[15:48] <Ubuntu_Guru> So Seeing this opening has made my year !
[15:49] <DrHalan> hey guys. i was wondering if it there is some kind of birthday notification possible with gnome contacts
[15:50] <Chuck_Norris> http://i.imgur.com/YHLN7.jpg
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> Ubuntu_Guru  http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/careers
[15:50] <SajjaD> any idea about this error:
[15:50] <SajjaD> dpkg: error: /var/lib/dpkg/info/format is corrupted, it should contain a database format version (an integer)
[15:50] <SajjaD> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2).
[15:50] <StayInSkool> strange issue i cant seem to find info on: when hooking up a 2nd monitor, hardware acceleration disappears under unity (no shadows, transparency fx etc). clues?
[15:50] <Ubuntu_Guru> Chuck that is a sad truth
[15:52] <leto> Hi, alt-tab isn't working anymore to switch between windows (tought it worked yesterday), how can I solve it?
[15:53] <ugur> leto: if you use ccsm try reset to default from profile section
[15:54] <Chuck_Norris> leto: choose another switch windows in "compizconfig-setting-manager"
[15:55] <leto> hi ugur and Chuck_Norris : compizconfig-setting-manager
[15:55] <leto> compizconfig-setting-manager: command not found
[15:56] <dreamtraveler> hi i had just installed ccsm but for some reason i dont see the effects of it even though i have enabled wooby effects on windows
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> dreamtraveler:  you are using unity and not unity2d ?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> dreamtraveler: if you run: ps -ef | grep compiz | grep -v grep    do you see any output?
[15:56] <SajjaD> waiting for answer
[15:56] <dreamtraveler> i am using xubuntu 12.04
[15:56] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: I just ssh'd to my home computer which uses same ISP as my classroom.  I can ping jquery.com from home but not my room.
[15:57] <ugur> leto: sudo apt-get install ccsm
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> SajjaD:  looks like the file is bad/currupted.
[15:57] <SajjaD> which?
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> dpkg: error: /var/lib/dpkg/info/format is corrupted
[15:57] <SajjaD> what should i do?
[15:57] <ugur> leto: sorry sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:58] <dreamtraveler> ActionParsnip,  i dont see output
[15:58] <Dr_Willis> willis@Speedbuntu:/var/lib/dpkg/info$ ls -l format
[15:58] <Dr_Willis> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1 Apr 25 12:04 format
[15:58] <leto> ugur: no problem, I'm installing it
[15:58] <Dr_Willis> the format file seems empty here.
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> dreamtraveler: then you aren't running  compiz, so you won't see the effects
[15:58] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: Oh, I can access forum.jquery.com but not api.jquery.com or www.jquery.com from my computer in school
[15:58] <Chuck_Norris> leto: compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:58] <dreamtraveler> ActionParsnip, then how do i enable compiz ?
[15:59] <SajjaD> Dr_Willis: how can i correct the file?
[15:59] <Chuck_Norris> if it's not installed so... sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> SajjaD: /var/lib/dpkg/info/format: very short file (no magic)
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> SajjaD:  rename it. make a new one.
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> dreamtraveler: press ALT+F2 and run:  compiz --replace
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> i dont see any data in it whatsoever
[15:59] <StayInSkool> anyone? :/ hardware acceleration tears
[15:59] <EEe8200> In what location is the internet brownsing history stored? in /home or in /tmp or in another folder?
[15:59] <dreamtraveler> ActionParsnip, do i need to do this all the time ?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> EEe8200: which browser?
[15:59] <EEe8200> all of them
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> dreamtraveler: is compiz running ok?
[16:00] <Dr_Willis> StayInSkool:  enable that sync to vblank option perhaps - it seems to helped my nvidia systems
[16:00] <dreamtraveler> actually i um cant em
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> EEe8200: depends, firefox stores it in ~/.mozilla/firefox/someplace
[16:00] <StayInSkool> Dr_Willis: will try! thanks
[16:00] <dreamtraveler> switch between windows since there is no x plus or dash
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> EEe8200: chromium stores it in ~/.cache/chromium    chrome in ~/.cache/google-chrome
[16:01] <EEe8200> hm, and where is " ~./ "?
[16:01] <Dr_Willis> EEe8200:  thats a path.. ~ is your home dir
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> EEe8200: its means a hidden folder in your home
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> EEe8200: ~ = $HOME = /home/$USER
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> if this is all voodoo. it may be time to read a few bash starter guides. ;)
[16:03] <EEe8200> then, all the stuff which I see from the internet like pictures, movies, texfiles and so on falls in the /home, so I will need to encrypt only this and the swap, and I can leave the rest out unencrypted
[16:03] <primenumber> Hi gang - quick question. I have a recurrent crash of something about a minute after I boot 12.04. Is there a log I can check to see what it is? There is often no option at the time to get details. Thanks!
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> EEe8200: /home/$USER/Pictures
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> EEe8200:  /home is  where your users homes are at. :) its not the same as /home/yourusername
[16:04] <dreamtraveler> ActionParsnip,  yeah i am good now... thanks but isnt there a gui way to switch between window managers instead of typing code ?
[16:04] <EEe8200> aham
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> why do you need to encrypt swap?
[16:04] <leto> ugur: I've reseted to default in ccsm, but same problem
[16:04] <laumonier> hi i want to know on which firmware my usb wifi dongle is .how can i do to know??thx
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> dreamtraveler:  normally you pick what desktop to use at the login screen
[16:05] <Dr_Willis> laumonier:  plug it in, check lsusb output
[16:05] <dreamtraveler> Dr_Willis, then i think i have an issue cause
[16:05] <wdp> ActionParsnip, my trouble might be cause its a pretty old ubuntu install.
[16:05] <dreamtraveler> Dr_Willis, i login automatically
[16:05] <sipior> Dr_Willis: in case your passphrase gets swapped to disk :-) some applications are less than perfectly cautious about that.
[16:05] <wdp> ActionParsnip, doing an upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 10.10
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> dreamtraveler:  so log out. select the one you want. it rembers
[16:06] <LmAt> I would like my program to keep running after I press CTRL+Z.  I read that bg is the way to do this.
[16:06] <LmAt> CTRL+Z && bg.  It doesn't seem to work.
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> LmAt:  you may want to check into screen, tmux and the nohup command also.. and detatch
[16:06] <laumonier> Dr_Willis,  all i have is Edimax Technology Co., Ltd EW-7718UN 802.11n Wireless Adapter [Ralink RT2870]
[16:06] <LmAt> Dr_Willis: I have tmux.
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> wdp: you can upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 directly if you want
[16:07] <wdp> hm
[16:07] <wdp> well doing it step by step, we'll see
[16:07] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: is there another channel I might get assistance from on this problem?
[16:07] <LmAt> Dr_Willis: I'm using tmux. I know how to detatch.  I would like to move the job to background.
[16:07] <Chuck_Norris> laumonier: do you have some issues with that ralink?
[16:07] <Dr_Willis> LmAt:  ctrl-z and 'bg' works here for me.
[16:08] <LmAt> Dr_Willis: hmm.
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> [1]+  Stopped                 gedit foo
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> willis@Speedbuntu:/var/lib/dpkg/info$ bg
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> [1]+ gedit foo &
[16:08] <LmAt> my irc client timed out when I left it in bg for a few minutes.  It looke
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> gedit is then running.....
[16:08] <FloodBot1> Dr_Willis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:08] <LmAt> Dr_Willis: Mine does that, but right after [1]+ prog & , it goes back to [1]+ Stopped   prog
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> could be somthing odd with the irc client.
[16:09] <LmAt> Dr_Willis: Perhaps irssi doesn't want to go to backgrounD?
[16:09] <laumonier> Chuck_Norris,  yes it's barely working so i try to find some solution to fix it
[16:09] <LmAt> Dr_Willis: Thanks.
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> with tmux you shoudl jsut make a new terminal
[16:09] <LmAt> Dr_Willis: Well, I want to share irssi and bash sometimes, but then sometimes I want to share the same bash with vi.
[16:09] <LmAt> Dr_Willis: I want to switch between irssi and vi on one pane with the same bash, but I don't want to divide between vi and irssi.
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> LmAt: could use screen
[16:10] <Dr_Willis> share? i dont get what you mean by shareing irssi and bash..  you can have tmux open several shells and have them all running at the same time
[16:10] <Chuck_Norris> laumonier: paste: lsmod | grep 802
[16:10] <LmAt> ActionParsnip: umm
[16:10] <Dr_Willis> byobu is also very handy . ;) its like screen/tmux polished up a bit.
[16:10] <leto> < Chuck_Norris> leto: choose another switch windows in "compizconfig-setting-manager" ← would you please tell me how to do that? :)
[16:10] <LmAt> Dr_Willis: I want   %bash% | %irssi% sometimes and %bash% | %vi% sometimes.
[16:10] <LmAt> I don't want %bash%| (%irssi% / %vi%)  (do you get my notation?
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> LmAt:  Nope. ;)
[16:11] <Chuck_Norris> leto: compizconfig-settings-manager
[16:11] <LmAt> Dr_Willis: So, bash is on the left half.  irssi is on the right half.
[16:11] <LmAt> Dr_Willis: (that's what I mean by %bash% | %irssi%)
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> of the tmux wundow you mean?
[16:11] <laumonier> Chuck_Norris, http://pastebin.com/vjzqUJZ6
[16:11] <LmAt> Dr_Willis: yes.
[16:11] <leto> Chuck_Norris: I'm in, and?
[16:11] <Chuck_Norris> leto: if it is not installed do: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> I think tmux can save layouts...
[16:11] <LmAt> Dr_Willis: And sometimes I don't want irssi; I want vi in stead.
[16:12] <SajjaD> Could not exec dpkg!
[16:12] <Chuck_Norris> and choose another switch windows
[16:12] <SajjaD> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (100)
[16:12] <leto> Chuck_Norris: it wasn't, I just installed it
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> I just use ctrl-a n to get to the next one. :) i rarely use the window mode of screen or tmux
[16:12] <LmAt> Dr_Willis: I use window mode all the time!
[16:13] <SajjaD> Dr_Willis: i renamed the format file but this error now:
[16:13] <SajjaD> Could not exec dpkg!
[16:13] <LmAt> Dr_Willis: I don't need... what is it, 120 ? 180? columns.
[16:13] <Dr_Willis> i use screen/byobu/tmux over ssh on my android phone. :) window mode isent going to work very well
[16:13] <SajjaD> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (100)	
[16:13] <Chuck_Norris> leto: now open it, in dash write: compiz  and you will see it
[16:13] <LmAt> Dr_Willis: For sure.  It's useful because I have a moderately large screen.
[16:14] <LmAt> OH yeah, I wanted to put a different font on my terminal windows...thanks for reminding me.  Time to install Grub2
[16:14] <LmAt> window 4
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> LmAt:  I tend to use 'terminator' in X for a terminal window. its a bit easier to manage the windows
[16:14] <StayInSkool> Dr_Willis: no dice. looks like my issues have to do with Xinerama
[16:14] <StayInSkool> not sure how to make two separate X screens user friendly. can't drag anything across..
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> StayInSkool:  ive never needed to use 2 septrate x screens
[16:15] <imagine> hello
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> i always enable twinview and  have veyr few issues
[16:15] <imagine> 中文
[16:16] <Chuck_Norris> laumonier: sudo ifconfig wlan0 down
[16:16] <imagine> ubuntu
[16:18] <john> can any body tell me anonymous ftp site for downloading games
[16:18] <Chuck_Norris> laumonier: i meant are you conected via wire?
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> john:  you mean windows warez games?
[16:18] <DJones> john: You can download games from the ubuntu software centre
[16:19] <john> ya
[16:19] <DJones> !piracy | john
[16:19] <john> i want windows games
[16:19] <yoyo> permisi
[16:19] <yoyo> ada yg bisa indo gk
[16:19] <Kornkage4> john=troll means ban for him
[16:19] <john> ok
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> john:  and this illeagle activity is related to ubuntu support how exactly?
[16:20] <BlessJah> i'm getting (OOPS ID: 2350carambolalaunchpad572) while trying to log in using LPs OpenID
[16:20] <BlessJah> is it proper channel to ask launchpad related questions?
[16:21] <ki4ro> BlessJah: Ask away and you'll find out I'm sure
[16:22] <BlessJah> ki4ro: already asked ^^
[16:22] <ki4ro> BlessJah: Gotcha LOL
[16:23] <yoyo> woiii tolong dong
[16:23] <iceroot> BlessJah: #launchpad
[16:23] <DJones> BlessJah: There is #launchpad that might be a better channel
[16:23] <LordOfTime> BlessJah:  #launchpad would be better
[16:23] <rzx237> yoyo: what's up?
[16:24] <BlessJah> lol, i've mispelled channel name
[16:24] <BlessJah> that's why i couldn't find the right channel
[16:24] <BlessJah> thanks iceroot, DJones, ki4ro and LordOfTime
[16:24] <Dr_Willis>  #lunchpad :)
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[16:26] <yoyo> rzx237 :
[16:26] <yoyo> ??
[16:26] <leto> Chuck_Norris: compiz
[16:26] <LordOfTime> yoyo:  do you have a support question?
[16:26] <catphish> does ubuntu 12.04 have a local dns proxy by default?
[16:26] <catphish> my resolv.conf points to 127.0.0.1
[16:26] <leto> Chuck_Norris: "compiz (core) - Error: Screen 0 on display ":0.0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager."
[16:26] <yoyo> lord yes
[16:27] <rhomboetric> what services do i have to remove to make my ubuntu invisible in the network?
[16:27] <yoyo> I have installed virtualbox but
[16:27] <LordOfTime> rhomboetric:  not connecting to the network
[16:27] <rhomboetric> ;)
[16:27] <LordOfTime> rhomboetric:  no system is truly invisible to a network
[16:27] <rhomboetric> yeah, i mean something like "turn off autodiscovery"
[16:27] <catphish> oh yeah dnsmasq
[16:27] <yoyo> virtualbox say"concole error" when I ready to install xp
[16:28] <LordOfTime> rhomboetric:  you could disable avahi or whatever the autodiscovery system is
[16:28] <rhomboetric> besides purgeing smb, what else do i have to deinstall?
[16:28] <Chuck_Norris> leto: type into the terminal: compiz --replave
[16:28]  * LordOfTime hasnt worked with that for a while since even if his system is discoverable its locked down by firewall
[16:28] <Chuck_Norris> excuse me =P i meant: compiz --replace
[16:28] <rhomboetric> yeah, read avahi, but when i try to deinstall it, it wants to deinstall ubuntu-dektop :/
[16:28] <rhomboetric> is there any way to turn it off?
[16:29] <LordOfTime> rhomboetric:  ubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[16:29] <LordOfTime> as long as it isnt uninstalling that and everything else you *might* be okay
[16:29] <rhomboetric> can is disable to deinstall it?
[16:29] <iceroot> what is the difference between "recommend update" and "important update" in the update-manager? or better what is telling update-manager what is important and what is recommend? the changelog with urgency?
[16:30] <Jon--> Since upgrading to 12.04 syndaemon has 100% CPU usage (Thankfully it only uses 1 core). Can we debug this a bit before I make a ticket for it?
[16:31] <yoyo> lord
[16:33] <vahnx> Ack I just checked on a laptop copying files running latest Ubuntu and it was stuck as at "Skip / Cancel"
[16:33] <iceroot> Jon--: strace the running process for example to see if it is using a loop
[16:33] <Jon--> iceroot, I killed it already as it was causing my system to practically hang
[16:33] <vahnx> how can i do a "Skip All", similar to holding shift and clicking Yes to make it a "Yes to all" in windows?
[16:34] <vahnx> im copying 30 gigs i have no idea when it will stop copying and ask me to skip a system file or whathaveyou
[16:35] <vahnx> strange, just saw a Skip All button on this file.. maybe i overlooked it before or it was just the "Preparing to copy" that had this option missed
[16:35] <Xunil> Hi everyone, is a ppa for ant 1.2.4 available?
[16:36] <LordOfTime> Xunil:  you may need to look for yourself, we dont normally keep tabs on PPAs
[16:36] <LordOfTime> since they're unofficial
[16:36] <Jon--> iceroot, If I can get the daemon spun up again you want the output?
[16:41] <wdp> say is there some document, which would explain me the differences between 10.04 10.10 12.something etc?
[16:42] <wdp> I only found upgrade information (i.e. documents explaining how to upgrade) but i didn't find something like a changelog.
[16:42] <LordOfTime> wdp:  changelogs
[16:42] <LordOfTime> !changelog | wdp
[16:42] <LordOfTime> bleh
[16:42] <LordOfTime> release notes actually
[16:43] <LordOfTime> wdp:  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes
[16:43] <oCean> !notes
[16:43] <MadsRC> Is a internet connection really needed to install the 12.04 64bit Server edition?
[16:44] <MadsRC> Seems to get stuck after I "need" to select an ubuntu archive during installation
[16:44] <auronandace> MadsRC: needed, no
[16:44] <iceroot> MadsRC: not when using the server iso
[16:44] <wdp> ah
[16:44] <wdp> ty.
[16:44] <iceroot> MadsRC: but it would be a good idea to run updates after the installation through the internet
[16:44] <MadsRC> Then how do I get past the mirror selection?
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> wdp: I wouldn't worry about 10.10 (maverick) it is EOL
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> MadsRC: just don't connect to the web. Its not necessary
[16:45] <wdp> ActionParsnip, just checking release notes :)
[16:47] <MadsRC> I don't get the option not to go online? Right af defining the keyboard layout it goes straight to interface selection... There's no "don't go online' button
[16:47] <mobhero> hi, difference bw VSFTP AND PFTP, pls help me abt this.
[16:47] <tero_> um this might be a stupid question, but how can i check what is the manufacter of my integrated network card? lsusb doesn't show anyhitng special, and mac adress is from the motherboard manufacter.   I just want to know if the network card is from realtek or something else
[16:48] <llutz> tero_: lspci
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> tero_: sudo lshw -C network
[16:48] <tero_> yeas i meant that lspci doesn't show anything "intersting" not lsusb
[16:49] <llutz> tero_: pastebin output of lspci please
[16:49] <marian_> witam
[16:49] <tero_> oops nvermind...
[16:50] <marian_> witam
[16:50] <noob-> ikonia is a bitch
[16:50] <kh31d4r0> ikonia is a bitch
[16:52] <kenjy> guys when I create a user with useradd and when I do su user it has no shell, just the propmt $, if I run bash I get what I expect, can you help me?
[16:52] <marian_> witam
[16:52] <oCean> !pl | marian_
[16:52] <llutz> kenjy: "chsh -s /bin/bash username"
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> llutz: beat me to it :)
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> llutz: does that update /etc/passwd too ?
[16:53] <llutz> ActionParsnip: it does
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> llutz: groovy
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> llutz: thanks too. Saw that command in my LPI book :D
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> kenjy: may want to make sure the user has ~/.bashrc too :)
[16:55] <test> I have a question?
[16:55] <Cosmoe> hey guys, I'm trying to restore a windows partition in Ubuntu via mounting a dd'ed image of the partition then copying the NTFS file system into a newly created NTFS file system made with mkfs.ntfs
[16:55] <Cosmoe> does anyone know the correct way to do this and keep NTFS extended attributes (e.g. hidden, system)
[16:55] <llutz> ~/.bashrc is not needed to get a working bash-shell, its just handy for some env
[16:56] <kenjy> ActionParsnip and llutz : fixed, tnks
[16:56] <llutz> kenjy: i'd use "adduser" next time you add a user
[16:57] <marian_> witam
[16:57] <llutz> !pl | marian_
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> llutz: thought it would help define the PS1 variable as the prmpt was naked
[17:00] <llutz> ActionParsnip: even with an empty prompt, you'll have a working shell. just eyecandy :)
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> llutz: you can see my thought though :)
[17:00] <stueng> did someone say naked
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> stueng: indeed
[17:01] <llutz> stueng: no, not a mp4-hd-prompt
[17:02] <Ca11um> How can I choose a default action for bash scripts (running in terminal)?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: if you right click it, it should say 'run in terminal' afaik
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: in theproperties of the file
[17:06] <edgy> Hi, when I do sudo mount /dev/vg<tab> it doesn't autocomplete, what is the reason?
[17:07] <toafan_> edgy: you sure /dev/vg-whatever is mount-able?
[17:07] <toafan_> edgy: I've never heard of a /dev/vg drive.  I could be wrong, though
[17:08] <marian_> witam
[17:08] <sipior> edgy: bash autocomplete is not perfect, sadly :-)
[17:08] <edgy> toafan_: $ df -h |grep home
[17:08] <edgy> /dev/mapper/vg00-lv_home  7.0G  4.0G  2.8G  59% /srv/root/home
[17:08] <edgy> $ sudo mount /dev/vg
[17:09] <llutz> edgy: you see the difference " /dev/mapper/vg*"
[17:09] <edgy> llutz: the /dev/mapper/vg is a link to /dev/vg.. but I will try it your way ...
[17:09] <oCean> marian_: Proszę przestać mówić Witam. To jest kanał La Manche. Wpisz /join # ubuntu-pl, aby przejść do polskiego kanału
[17:09] <dustinspringman> hey folks.. i am having issues getting an LG-VL600 4G usb dongle to show up in network manager... usb-devices shows the device in the list, and dmesg also reports it is seeing the device... ideas?
[17:09] <edgy> llutz: this $ sudo mount /dev/mapper/vg00-lv<tab> didn't work either
[17:10] <edgy> llutz, sipio, toafan_: it's strange because I have 3 logical volumes and it autocompletes one of them but not the other two
[17:11] <toafan_> edgy: *shrug*
[17:15] <jennie> please help , how to make this webcam works
[17:15] <jennie> lin@lin-desktop:~$ lsusb
[17:15] <jennie> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[17:15] <jennie> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[17:15] <jennie> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[17:15] <jennie> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
[17:15] <FloodBot1> jennie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:16] <brodro> lol, so i'm currently using ubuntu on my xoom tablet--- and there is no ctrl button
[17:19] <datadave> hello
[17:20] <dustinspringman> any takers on a LG-LV600 4G card support?
[17:21] <Bentheplantguy> Dr_Willis: opened external in disk utility (Mac OSX).  ran test, then repair.  auto mounted in /media when i plugged it back into ubuntu.  ~Thank you for your patience and helping me out
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> dustinspringman: run: lsusb    and use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[17:28] <Jon--> gnome-screenshot isn't working on my system with gnome classic. I know that they changed it upstream to save to ~/Pictures (see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669629), but I don't have a ~/Pictures dir at all. Probably just need to mkdir, but where can I report the bug, and what do I do if that doesn't work?
[17:29] <lupin> i just installed ubuntu 12.04, for some reason when i drag windows to either the top or sides, the window does not automatically resize
[17:29] <Jon--> mkdir did not fix the issue. My screenshot is not saved to ~/Pictures as it supposedly is now (changed upstream)
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Jon--: I'd make the directory and retry
[17:29] <Jon--> ActionParsnip, ^
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Jon--: where is it saved?
[17:29] <Jon--> It doesn't notify you at all now
[17:29] <Jon--> I have no idea.
[17:30] <Jon--> ActionParsnip, when run from CLI : ** (gnome-screenshot:22898): WARNING **: Unable to use GNOME Shell's builtin screenshot interface, resorting to fallback X11. Error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.Shell was not provided by any .service files  [that's just a warn though]
[17:32] <lupin_> hey I just installed ubuntu, when i drag a window to the top or sides it's not automatically resizing any help?
[17:33] <lupin_> wow linux mint people were right, 10x more people in here and not a single person who can help... awesome
[17:33] <Jon--> gnome + ubuntu is such a gongshow now, really makes me consider switching distros. (I have a strong distaste for unity)
[17:33] <Jon--> lupin_, obvious troll is obvious you waited 30 seconds.
[17:33] <Jordan_U> lupin_: I was just about to answer your question.
[17:33] <lupin_> i asked 5 minutes ago
[17:33] <Guest63883> ikonia is a bitch
[17:33] <Guest63883> ikonia is a bitch
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> Jon--: are you connected via SSH, or are you logged on to the local system?
[17:34] <Jon--> ActionParsnip, local
[17:34] <lupin_> and dont tell me im a troll pussy
[17:34] <lupin_> you dont know me
[17:34] <sipior> lupin_: don't let the door hit you on the way out.
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> lupin_: is the grid plugin enabled in compiz
[17:34] <lupin_> ill just ignore the door and you sipior
[17:34] <Jordan_U> lupin_: Please watch your attiude and language, this is your only warning.
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Jon--: do you use compiz?
[17:34] <Jon--> So much for the warning.
[17:35] <Jon--> ActionParsnip, I'm using fallback, so it has Metacity over Compiz. Compositing enabled, no real custom settings.
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Jon--: in the keyboard settings, is the right key set to the actin of 'take screenshot'?
[17:36] <msch> hey what's the best way to send fake keystrokes to the current X app?
[17:37] <Jon--> ActionParsnip, I doubt that's the issue I can invoke gnome-screenshot from terminal and it does not work either. I'll check though
[17:38] <Jon--> ActionParsnip, Set correctly
[17:40] <Jon--> If you want a tl;dr of the bugs from upstream, GNOME changed behaviour from prompting user to saving directly to ~/Photos without notification. I'm getting no notification or picture save.
[17:40] <WeissLehrer> i have a /run/ folder but there is no /run/network/ <o> networking doesn't work until I '/etc/init.d/networking restart'
[17:41] <JonEdney> Anyone have any fixes for Unity 3D not working?  I installed GnomeClassic and didn't like it, now I can;t go back.
[17:41] <Jon--> JonEdney, 12.04?
[17:42] <JonEdney> Yes.
[17:42] <hidn_shadows> Hey guys, I've had a spare hard drive with my complete install of 10.04 on it that I used for a while. I recently put it into a new computer, and then I realized I didn't remember my password to the main account. I left my school account unlocked though. Any way to change an account password?
[17:42] <JonEdney> Installed Gnome Classic, now when i clieck to go back to Ubuntu 3D, all I get is my background.  No interface, only way out is ctr alt del
[17:43] <Jon--> JonEdney, How did you install gnome-classic?
[17:44] <TheLordOfTime> Jon--: sudo apt-get install gnome-classic
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Jon--: you can install imagemagick and run:  sleep 5; import ~/screenshot.png
[17:44] <WeissLehrer> it seems I fixed it by creating a symlink from /run/network/ to /var/run/network/
[17:44] <Jon--> ActionParsnip, I have imagemagick... and I can script a screenshot easily enough with it. Why is it broken, are others going to have problems, where do I file a bug report, etc.
[17:44] <JonEdney> Jon--, i did apt-get install gnome-classic
[17:44] <JonEdney> then installed gnome-fallback
[17:45] <Jon--> Okay.
[17:45] <TheLordOfTime> !classic | Jon--
[17:45] <TheLordOfTime> ugh, notunity
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> Jon--: run:   ubuntu-bug gnome-screenshot    and the process will start
[17:45] <docmur> I'm running ubuntu 11.10 and when any client attempts to connect to my mail server i keep getting postfix/smtpd[618]: fatal: dict_open: unsupported dictionary type: mysql:  Is the postfix-mysql package installed?  The issue is that postfix-mysql is installed.
[17:45] <Jordan_U> hidn_shadows: If you weren't using an encrypted home directory then you can just boot into recovery mode (hold shift during boot and select the recovery mode entry) and run "passwd my_username" from a root shell.
[17:45] <Jon--> TheLordOfTime, I'm running classic myself, I wanted to see how he installed it.
[17:45] <Jordan_U> hidn_shadows: You'll still lose your GNOME keyring if you do that though.
[17:45] <Jon--> JonEdney, Were you able to use Unity before installing it?
[17:46] <JonEdney> Jon--, Yes without problem
[17:46] <hidn_shadows> Jordan_U if I'm not looking at using this regularly, just to recover some stuff, would that probably be worth it? NGL, not sure what the keyring is. Saved passwords>
[17:48] <Jordan_U> hidn_shadows: The GNOME keyring is saved passwords, for most people the only saved passwords they have in the GNOME keyring are for Wireless networks.
[17:48] <Jon--> JonEdney, Someone else will have to assist you, sorry.
[17:49] <JonEdney> Thank you for your help Jon--
[17:49] <Jon--> wasted too much time at work got something to do :(
[17:49] <Jon--> no worries
[17:49] <hidn_shadows> Jordan_U alright thanks man! I haven't been here in quite a while, I'll have to start coming back. Thanks!
[17:50] <Jordan_U> hidn_shadows: You're welcome.
[17:53] <linux4u> hi guys, how can I force dirvish to start?
[17:54] <linux4u> as in start backing up. I made the times before, after and equal to now and ran /usr/local/sbin/dirvish-runall and it does not do anything
[17:55] <ballison> this is off topic: but can anyone recommend the name of a good systems forensics company?
[17:56] <hidnshadows> Jordan_U that worked, and I just got flooded with update notices 0.0 But anyways, will having my keyring locked interfere that much? If so, is there a way to reset the password to that too?
[17:57] <leptis> Hi, where's the linux gaming channel?
[17:58] <jochen1727> hi alll
[17:58] <jochen1727> hi all
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> leptis: #linux-gaming maybe
[17:59] <hypn0> leptis, there are websites
[17:59] <leptis> Nope
[17:59] <leptis> #linux-gaming isn't
[17:59] <TheLordOfTime> try ##linux-gaming ?
[17:59] <Pici> !alis | leptis
[17:59] <hypn0> why do you need a channel :-/ arent you busy playing
[17:59] <rhomboetric> is there any way to mount a truecrypt partition during startup? just like with LUKS? i know there is a way to mount is whenever a user logs in..but for my setup i need it during boot-time :/
[18:00] <mcyyyy> ciao
[18:00] <leptis> There aren't any linux gaming channel?
[18:01] <leptis> lol
[18:03] <J11> is there a way for root to access .gvfs ? I want to copy files using root to a network share but root got permission denied
[18:05] <J11> Or is there any way to copy using the rights of one account to access the source and use another user to put it in a destination folder?
[18:06] <Baribal> Hi. Can I run a video instead of having a static desktop background image?
[18:06] <Baribal> J11, sudo and chown -R?
[18:07] <Baribal> J11, sudo su <username>, to be exact.
[18:12] <Ca11um> When playing games on Ubuntu, how much of an effect on performance would emulating games with Wine have?
[18:12] <Ca11um> I have a 6-core CPU @ 3.3 GHz, 8 GB RAM and 1 GB VRAM
[18:12] <JJ1234> hi all, Errors were encountered while processing:  crossplatformui E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:12] <JJ1234> plz help
[18:13] <jarubyh_> Ca11um: It depends on the game, but most of the time the performance is pretty good, if not quite as fast as Windows.
[18:13] <Ca11um> I mean, I won't be playing games at like 5 fps will I?
[18:14] <Ca11um> As long as there's like 20 fps, I wouldn't complain.
[18:14] <curiousx> Ca11um: playing games that uses OpenGL practically none
[18:14] <Ca11um> Well I use Steam for gaming.....
[18:14] <jarubyh_> Ca11um: Most of the games I've run with Wine were fine.
[18:14] <Ca11um> And looking at the Wine Top-10 Platinum List
[18:15] <Chuck_Norris> playin directx games will loss some FPS
[18:15] <Ca11um> L4D2 and TF2 are 3rd and 4th
[18:15] <JJ1234> Errors were encountered while processing:  crossplatformui E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:15] <jarubyh_> Yeah, TF2 :)
[18:15] <Ca11um> So DirectX = Windows - OpenGL = Universal?
[18:15] <JJ1234> plz help
[18:15] <uzna> Hi.
[18:16] <Chuck_Norris> may* loss... i meant
[18:16] <ssta> calexnk: well, more universal than directx
[18:16] <Baribal> Ca11um;: AFAIK, pretty much.
[18:16] <truepurple> I've gotten this coming up automatically a number of times http://i46.tinypic.com/nyae7k.png I also remember seeing a error about VLC install, and I did do a update/upgrade just before all this started happening that included VLC video player
[18:16] <uzna> I've been searching the web for a solution, but many of them I can't get to work, can I explain a problem here to get help?
[18:16] <Baribal> Ca11um, But DirectX (AFAIK) also contains other media, like audio.
[18:16] <miss_ubuntu> hello room
[18:17] <miss_ubuntu> any android sdk users here?
[18:17] <Ca11um> OpenGL is soely graphics?
[18:17] <TheLordOfTime> uzna: ask away, but be mindful of !enter
[18:17] <reisio> miss_ubuntu: probably
[18:17] <uzna> What is !enter?
[18:17] <miss_ubuntu> reissio ... r u the one? :)
[18:17] <reisio> miss_ubuntu: not relevant :p
[18:18] <aka00devon> Wanting to dual-boot Ubuntu with Win7.  Trying to place it on a hdd (doesn't contain C://) I currently use as storage space.  I've partioned two new partions (main and swap) on this storage drive and successfully installed Ubuntu on them.  Won't boot to Ubuntu when the hdd is specified for startup in BIOS.  Any tips?
[18:18] <drecute> logged on as root, how do I change the permission of a user's home directory?
[18:18] <Jordan_U> Ca11um: Yes, but there is also OpenAL for audio. The Direct3D is what better compares to OpenGL.
[18:18] <Baribal> aka00devon, Look at the bootloader, GRUB.
[18:18] <truepurple> aka00devon, did you install ubuntu or win7 first?
[18:18] <Ca11um> I hope Valve hurry up with this Steam port to Linux
[18:18] <ssta> drecute: chmod
[18:18] <aka00devon> win7
[18:18] <drecute> I want to add write access for that user and I keep getting permission denied
[18:19] <ssta> Ca11um: bah...they've been talking about it for 5 years at least and it hasn't happened yet
[18:19] <drecute> ssta: it's giving me permission denied
[18:19] <Jordan_U> aka00devon: Most likely Ubuntu's installer didn't install grub's boot sector to that drive's MBR.
[18:19] <ssta> drecute: pastebin what you're trying and what the output is
[18:19] <uzna> Here's the issue:  On boot, desktop items randomly are there or aren't, I've tried fixing Nautilus with Alt F2, that didn't work, I can't get gconf-editor to open, so I'm not sure how to fix this.  (ubuntu 12.04)
[18:19] <Kornkage4> drecute do the same thing but with sudo
[18:19] <drecute> ssta: I'm logged on a root and it won't allow me change the permissions
[18:20] <Ca11um> ssta: But apparently, it's confirmed to be before 2013
[18:20] <drecute> the command is simply: sudo chmod -R 775 /users/<username>
[18:20] <ssta> drecute: very unusual to be logged on as root..., but okay.
[18:20] <aka00devon> jordan:  Would it be possible to manually change this?
[18:20] <ssta> drecute: what is the output of "id"?
[18:20] <drecute> error is: chmod: changing permissions of /users/<username>: Permission denied
[18:21] <ssta>  /users?  Is this ubuntu?!
[18:21] <drecute> yes
[18:21] <ssta> is /users network mounted?
[18:21] <drecute> yes
[18:21] <drecute> nfs
[18:21] <ssta> that's why then
[18:21] <truepurple> I've gotten this coming up automatically a number of times http://i46.tinypic.com/nyae7k.png I also remember seeing a error about VLC install, and I did do a update/upgrade just before all this started happening that included VLC video player. Can anyone help?
[18:21] <ssta> even as root, you don't own the *underlying* filesystem
[18:21] <uzna> Did I mess something up by installing another dock besides Unity?
[18:21] <Ca11um> ssta: Seems they've got somewhere - http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=valve_linux_dampfnudeln&image=valve_linux_l4d21_med
[18:22] <Ca11um> lolz, http://images.wildammo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/why-gabe-newell-invented-steam.jpg
[18:22] <ssta> cawarren:
[18:22] <Chuck_Norris> truepurple: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:22] <ssta> Ca11um: I'll believe it when I see it, but here's hoping :)
[18:22] <EEe7200> I am logged in as " x " and I wish to encrypt the " z " home folder, but I have this issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1029080/
[18:22] <ska> How do I get rid of the "submenu" entry in grub. I want the previous kernels to appear on front menu..
[18:22] <reisio> ska: delete it
[18:23] <s3c244110> Hi, anyone who can msg to me for testing my irc client.
[18:23] <truepurple> Chuck_Norris, you want me to run that command? I ran it before back then.
[18:23] <reisio> s3c244110: boom!
[18:23] <drecute> ssta: what do I do?
[18:23] <uzna> Am I asking this in the wrong place?
[18:23] <ssta> drecute: ask whoever owns the filesystem to change the permissions for you?
[18:24] <s3c244110> sadly, konversation's osd doesn't work as expected...
[18:24] <ssta> drecute: or ask the user...they should have permission
[18:24] <Chuck_Norris> truepurple: upgrade to 12.04 or 11.10 -.-
[18:24] <s3c244110> will quit and try again
[18:24]  * Chuck_Norris Chuck_Norris: aprove ubuntu 12.04
[18:25] <drecute> ssta: all permisssions to the nfs server to that directory has 777
[18:25] <uzna> !enter
[18:25] <EEe7200> Chuck_Norris: can you take a look over my pastebin? am I doing something wrong?
[18:25] <Jordan_U> !tab | aka00devon
[18:25] <EEe7200> is there another way to encrypt the homefolder after install?
[18:26] <truepurple> Chuck_Norris, how do you know I don't already have em? Well I don't, and I don't want to upgrade now, so how can I fix this problem without doing so?
[18:26] <s3c244110> pls msg to me for testing.
[18:26] <Jordan_U> aka00devon: Yes, first if you don't have too many drives try changing the boot order until Ubuntu actually boots.
[18:26] <Chuck_Norris> EEe7200: ye with Truecrypt for example
[18:26] <Chuck_Norris> truepurple: i saw it in the image
[18:26] <reisio> EEe7200: why does there need to be
[18:26] <Jordan_U> aka00devon: Then you can change where grub is installed (you can also do this from a LiveCD, but it's slightly easier to do from the booted Ubuntu install).
[18:27] <uzna> Does anyone know where I can find the solution to the issue I'm having?  I've found nothing useful so far.
[18:27] <s3c244110> Hey, if anyone who can msg to me for testing my irc client.
[18:27] <EEe7200> reisio: for my good night sleep in the night time
[18:27] <aka00devon> Jordan_U: Okay, so on install, should I split Grub off the main hdd and put it on the hdd I us for windows?
[18:27] <reisio> EEe7200: isn't one encryption implementation enough for that?
[18:27] <reisio> s3c244110: ping
[18:27] <uzna> I sent you a msg s3
[18:28] <eagle_eye> uzna: what issue?
[18:28] <EEe7200> reisio: now is not crypted
[18:28] <reisio> EEe7200: one... home dir?
[18:28] <truepurple> Vhuck_Norris, I don't want to upgrade now, so how can I fix this problem without doing so?
[18:28] <reisio> EEe7200: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[18:28] <EEe7200> reisio: I wish to crypt it, but the sys it is already installed http://paste.ubuntu.com/1029080/ yes one home dir " Z "
[18:28] <uzna> desktop items randomly appear or don't appear on the desktop in Ubuntu 12.04 and I tried Alt F2 Nautilus fix and gconf-editor fix won't work cause it won't open.. not sure what to do.
[18:28] <truepurple> Chuck_Norris, how do you know I don't already have em? Well I don't, and I don't want to upgrade now, so how can I fix this problem without doing so?
[18:28] <Chuck_Norris> truepurple: idk idon't think so
[18:29]  * EEe7200 reading links
[18:29] <s3c244110> reisio: still doesn't work:(
[18:29] <Chuck_Norris> truepurple: i saw it in the image you paste
[18:29] <eagle_eye> uzna: do you have myunity configurator?
[18:29] <uzna> Yes.
[18:29] <eagle_eye> uzna: does it help?
[18:29] <delac> truepurple: have you tried this?: http://askubuntu.com/questions/58928/update-manager-says-not-all-updates-can-be-installed
[18:30] <uzna> No.
[18:30] <eagle_eye> desktop is unity?
[18:30] <Jordan_U> aka00devon: If you're planning to keep the drive containing Ubuntu (and not get rid of Ubuntu), then you can install grub's boot sector to all the drives in your system so that you get a grub menu no matter what drive your BIOS boots from. The downside to that is that if you ever get rid of the Ubuntu installation you won't be able to boot from *any* of your drives as grub will be missing critical files.
[18:31] <uzna> I'm not referring to generic icons like Home or Trash, I'm talking about things I put on the desktop, like folders and etc. Like, minecraft, it's just poof..
[18:31] <XiRoN> Guys I running 'screen socat TCP-LISTEN:25565,fork TCP:somednsserver.net:25572' and as soon as a run it, it just says [screen is terminating]
[18:31] <Jordan_U> aka00devon: So which drives you install grub's boot sector to depends on how you want things to work.
[18:31] <eagle_eye> ahh
[18:31] <XiRoN> Anyone know the problem
[18:31] <uzna> I can still get to them through the sidebar home folder, but they are not on the desktop sometimes on boot.
[18:32] <s3c244110> reisio: please msg me again, it should work now.
[18:32] <uzna> And, the dock and sidebar lag out a lot lately, micro freezing.
[18:32] <reisio> s3c244110: work!
[18:33] <uzna> compriz crashes a lot too, could this be the reason?
[18:33] <s3c244110> reisio: doesn't work:(
[18:33] <reisio> uzna: the reason for what?
[18:34] <uzna> I have noticed compriz crash causing things to go poof off the desktop?
[18:34] <uzna> They were there, then it crashes, then everything is laggy and gone after relaunch or reboot.
[18:34] <s3c244110> oh, it's 2:34am, i have to fix it tomorrow. thank you guys
[18:35] <reisio> uzna: you don't need to reboot for that...
[18:35] <uzna> I've tried rebooting to get the things back on the desktop, sometimes it works, most times it doesn't.
[18:37] <uzna> Cairo-dock is laggy, sidebar(Unity) is laggy, missing desktop items, compriz crashes a lot.  Is this a serious problem?
[18:37] <truepurple> delac, I tried following those instructions, I ended up where I unintentionally removed VLC. But I want VLC, its the only video player I have that runs commercial DVDs decently
[18:37] <vooze> Do i need some special package to make "System load indicator" show my SSD-harddrive temperature? Right now its just shows 0. GPU and CPU temp is fine.
[18:38] <aka00devon> Jordan_U: I see.  So if I were to install Grub on the main partition of the hdd I have my Ubuntu partitions, the hdd will boot when selected in BIOS. And, if I'm following you, this won't affect booting from the hdd I have windows installed on.  But if I ever delete the Ubuntu installation, the hdd I had it installed on will be rendered unbootable.
[18:39] <uzna> Also, gconf-editor won't open, so I can't use that.
[18:39] <delac> truepurple: did you manage to install everything else?
[18:39] <Jordan_U> aka00devon: "So if I were to install Grub on the main partition of the hdd I have my Ubuntu partitions" Grub's boot sector should always be installed to the MBR, not to a partition.
[18:40] <sveinse> I have some script which does some loopback mounting and umount when done. However, gnome (classic) pops up a window as soon at detects a newly mounted drive, which interfers with the script. How can I disable this?
[18:40] <truepurple> delac, I guess so
[18:41] <sveinse> It's *really* annoying
[18:41] <aka00devon> Jordan_U: Okay, sorry, I'm trying to understand. Is the MBR cross-hdd or is it on each?
[18:41] <delac> truepurple: well, then just reinstall the vlc.
[18:41] <Jordan_U> aka00devon: Each drive has exactly one MBR (The MBR is the first sector of the drive).
[18:43] <truepurple> delac, Should I do it through software center, or what?
[18:43] <halfmt> I want to enable two-finger swipe on a synaptics touchpad, running 12.04.  geisview shows "Flick" as a recognized gesture, but how do I assign actions to it?  Ginnis not running and throws a "error subscribing to gestures" when I try to run it.  Ideas?
[18:44] <reisio> sveinse: probably by modding gvfs' settings
[18:44] <aka00devon> Jordan_U: I see now, thanks.  When I partitioned the storage drive, it installs Ubuntu on the secondary partition and therefore doesn't see the MBR of the hdd.  So when I install Ubuntu, I should make sure to specify Grub is installed on the primary partition.  Correct me if I'm wrong, or if I'm thinking about partitions incorrectly here.
[18:44] <delac> truepurple: software center, synaptic, apt-get install vlc... all of them should work
[18:45] <gfc> ur
[18:47] <Jordan_U> aka00devon: GRUB has three important pieces (at least for this discussion), the boot sector, the embedded core.img, and the files in /boot/grub.
[18:48] <gaby> hello - any body here can tell me please how to get the videos from youtube
[18:48] <gaby> ?
[18:48] <reisio> gaby: what browser are you using?
[18:48] <Jordan_U> aka00devon: Only the files in /boot/grub/ are part of a partition.
[18:48] <reisio> core.img is for U/EFI only
[18:48] <ssta> gaby: there's a plugin for firefox for it.  I don't remember the name though
[18:49] <Jordan_U> reisio: Completely false.
[18:49] <C-S-B>  I have a raid5 which is 4tb (3x2tb)
[18:49] <C-S-B>  with LVM on top
[18:49] <C-S-B>  the LVM is 2tb and I wish to extend this to 4tb.
[18:49] <truepurple> Delac, and not work any differently?
[18:49] <gaby> reisio : iam using both firefox and google chrome
[18:49] <C-S-B>  http://pastebin.com/Y2bTPgFN
[18:49] <reisio> Jordan_U: nope
[18:49] <reisio> gaby: http://www.downloadhelper.net/
[18:50] <Jordan_U> reisio: I'm a grub developer, core,img is most definitely part of grub-pc.
[18:50] <Jordan_U> s/core,img/core.img
[18:50] <reisio> Jordan_U: maybe it's sitting around, but you don't have to put it anywhere yourself
[18:50] <reisio> unlike with EFI
[18:51] <uzna> I'm just gonna reboot over and over until the icons appear and then never turn off my computer.
[18:51] <uzna> I can't find a solution anywhere.
[18:51] <delac> truepurple: should not. I'm not sure, but afaik both synaptic and software center are just guis for apt-get
[18:51] <SajjaD> problem whith installing apps http://paste.ubuntu.com/1029132/
[18:51] <gaby> reisio : i have downloaded the file - but i dont know how to install it
[18:51] <ssta> delac: not quite that simple...
[18:51] <ssta> software centre is...umm, like training wheels
[18:52] <reisio> gaby: you  just install it from within Firefox
[18:52] <reisio> dunno if there's a Chrome version yet, although there are undoubtedly at least equivalents
[18:52] <gaby> reisio please guide me how to do it step by step
[18:52] <delac> ssta: there is no problems usin both?
[18:52] <delac> *using
[18:52] <truepurple> delac, guis is graphical front end, like GUI but a different software design or something?
[18:52] <ssta> delac: as long as you don't try to use them at the same time, it should be fine
[18:53] <reisio> gaby: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/ -> Add to Firefox
[18:53] <Jordan_U> aka00devon: So grub's boot sector should always go in the first sector of a drive (the MBR). There is also usually an area between the MBR and the first paritition (sometimes called the boot track, post-mbr gap, or embedding area) which is used by grub for storing its core.img. Grub's boot sector and embedded core.img need to be on the same drive, but the partition containing /boot/grub/ does *not* need to be on the same drive as contains grub's boot ...
[18:53] <Jordan_U> ... sector + core.img.
[18:54] <ssta> Jordan_U: grub still usesw the post-mbr gap?  I thought that was going away since there are windows DRM schemes that hijack that?  (maybe I'm misremembering though)
[18:54] <SajjaD> can't anyone help me ?
[18:54] <delac> truepurple: if something is gui for something else, the gui uses the same code as the underlying thing to do the task. gui just adds the visual part
[18:55] <Jordan_U> ssta: There are two protections against stupid DRM 1: Avoid using sectors which we can see have been used by known idiotic software 2: Error correction so that grub can still boot even after having only a few sectors overwritten.
[18:55] <delac> truepurple: in this case, there might be further differences, but it is very unlikely that any problems would occur using any of these programs
[18:55] <truepurple> dalac I don't understand what your saying, are guis and gui sort of the same thing?
[18:56] <delac> truepurple: guis is just plural of gui
[18:56] <gaby> reisio please - i went to that page and i cant find what you are telling - please guide me step by step because i have downloaded the file
[18:56] <SuicidalZerg> Linux sucks.
[18:56] <Jordan_U> aka00devon: Since the boot sector and core.img should always go together, I usually just talk about "grub's boot sector".
[18:56] <SuicidalZerg> It's just that everthing else sucks worse.
[18:56] <SuicidalZerg> That is all.
[18:56] <Guest17573> lol
[18:56] <delac> zergrush
[18:56] <SajjaD> no idea about this: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[18:57] <reisio> gaby: there's no file you download, you click the green button to install the extension in Firefox
[18:57] <BlouBlou> Guest17573: just ignore him, he said it because he bought win7
[18:57] <ssta> SajjaD: the real error will be one of the lines above that
[18:57] <aka00devon> Jordan_U: Okay.  So does the Ubuntu install automatically place the boot sector in the correct place in the drive, or must it be specified?
[18:57] <SajjaD> ssta:  it is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1029132/
[18:58] <ssta> BlouBlou: most people have no choice but to buy win7...onme of the annoying things about buying hardware
[18:58] <ssta> SajjaD: erk...looks to me like you have your dpkg database in a *seriosuly* broken state
[18:59] <SajjaD> ssta: what to do now?
[18:59] <Jordan_U> aka00devon: Ubuntu's installer always places grub's boot sector in the MBR of *a* drive, but unfortunately by default it installs grub's boot sector to the drive which appears to be "first" rather than the drive which contains the rest of Ubunut.
[19:00] <reisio> yeah, that could use some work
[19:00] <Jordan_U> aka00devon: So my guess is that right now you have grub's boot sector on one drive, and the rest of Ubuntu on another.
[19:00] <ssta> SajjaD: try reinstalling the packages it says are broken, one by one...it's a long painful process to recover teh dpkg database
[19:01] <gaby> reisio: thank you very much for your support
[19:01] <ssta> SajjaD: or at least, if there's a shortcut, I've never found it
[19:01] <reisio> np
[19:01] <Jordan_U> aka00devon: If you want specifics (which might help clear things up) run boot info script and post a link to the RESULTS.txt it produces here and I can tell you the exact situation you currently have.
[19:01] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | aka00devon
[19:02]  * angel1986 is away: Gone away for now
[19:04] <xangua> uBOTu-fr: tell angel1986 about away
[19:04] <Pici> uBOTu-fr: !away
[19:04] <Pici> er
[19:04] <xangua> o_O
[19:04] <ZDebugger__> #ubuntu-ru
[19:05] <refresh__> exit
[19:05] <MatzeWilkes> Hi all, I have a virtualised 11.04 on a Mac OS host, its network is bridged from my real one, and is IPv6 only. I have a device that interacts over USB and slip, and wants an IPv6 network. I have a programme (tunslip6) that lets me give it a prefix, and that works, but I'd like to bridge the two. I don't even know what to search for, ubuntu bridge ipv6 but the responses I found are way beyond me
[19:06] <MatzeWilkes> Should I give it a prefix then somehow bind the two interfaces, or do I need to provide the prefix from my router?
[19:06] <truepurple> delac, when I try to install VLC, I get the following errors http://i46.tinypic.com/15c45u.png
[19:08] <xangua> truepurple: well looks like the problem is the ppa, try the one in ubuntu repository
[19:09] <Jonii> can you download source code for programs using Software Center?
[19:09] <truepurple> xangua, how?
[19:09] <Pici> Jonii: not to my knowledge, use apt-get for that.
[19:10] <Jonii> Pici: ty
[19:10] <Jonii> Pici: how to do that?
[19:10] <Pici> Jonii: apt-get source packagename
[19:10] <xangua> truepurple: disable or purge the ppa
[19:10] <truepurple> xangua, how?
[19:10] <OerHeks> truepurple, remove the ppa wit ppa-purge, and then install vlc
[19:11] <xangua> truepurple: whatever you preffer...
[19:11] <xangua> !ppa-purge | truepurple
[19:11] <truepurple> OerHeks, So just " ppa-purge" as a command in terminal?
[19:11] <Jonii> Pici: thanks
[19:11] <PARMA> chigbuntu
[19:12] <OerHeks> truepurple, something like " sudo ppa-purge <ppa-name> enter
[19:12] <aka00devon> Jordan_U: Thanks for the help, but unfortunately last night it looks like I've removed the installation to start fresh today.  I'm going to give it another go now, but for future reference, how should I run the boot script you gave me while being on Windows currently, as I am not able to boot to Ubuntu?
[19:14] <truepurple> OerHeks, and how do I determine <ppa-name>?
[19:15] <lotus> hey, I want a popup notifcation in lubuntu for new mail in evolution -- any ideas?
[19:15] <OerHeks> truepurple, you can look that up in your softwarecentre>sourceslist
[19:15] <delac> truepurple: it's probably the vlc daily build ppa. the vlc there seems to require newer libraries than natty can provide
[19:17] <delac> truepurple: did you try to install  vlc from main repository?
[19:17] <c[_]> is there any reason why changing the vga cable ubuntu doesnt reconize the screen?
[19:17] <halfmt> Hi, I'm trying to use setpci to alter device registers to change screen brightness, but it won't work!  setpci runs without error, but the value doesn't change.  Any thoughts/ideas appreciated!
[19:17] <truepurple> delac, How do i do that?
[19:17] <Jordan_U> aka00devon: Boot Info Script needs to be run from a GNU/Linux system, but that system could be a LiveCD/USB. So you can simply use the same CD you used to install Ubuntu but select "Try before installing" (or however the option is worded) to run the script in the Live environment.
[19:18] <truepurple> OerHeks, I don't see a sourceslist in the software center
[19:18] <halfmt> truepurple, it should be under the Edit menu
[19:19] <OerHeks> truepurple, same way as you added the PPA.
[19:19] <truepurple> halfmt, You mean "software sources..."?
[19:19] <aka00devon> Jordan_U: Alright that sounds easy.  Thanks again for the help.
[19:19] <Jordan_U> aka00devon: If you use manual partitioning in the Ubuntu installer you can choose where grub's boot sector will be installed to, and the simplest thing to do is probably to install grub's boot sector to the same drive that the rest of Ubuntu is being installed to (but *not* to a partition).
[19:20] <delac> truepurple: I dont use software center, but at the moment you seem to have selected VLC Daily Build ppa. Try selectin Get Software -> Sound and Video
[19:20] <Jordan_U> aka00devon: You're welcome.
[19:20] <xangua> (14:18:17) truepurple: OerHeks, I don't see a sourceslist in the software center - Edit, Sources
[19:21] <aka00devon> Jordan_U: So you mean the "overall" drive, and not a specific partition?  Say "sdb", not "sdb2".
[19:21] <drecute> how to make all nfs mount sub-directories writable on nfs client?
[19:22] <Jordan_U> aka00devon: Correct.
[19:22] <aka00devon> Jordan_U: Alright, sounds good.  Take care.
[19:23] <JoeyJoeJo> I'm using 10.04.3 Alternate and I'd like to update my kernel. How can I do that?
[19:24] <xangua> JoeyJoeJo: upgrade to precice pangolin
[19:24] <truepurple> OerHeks, I opened "software sources..." and it caused a window with lots of stuff in it to open. None of which seemed to be the answer to what <ppa-name> should be
[19:24] <Jordan_U> JoeyJoeJo: What do you mean by "using 10.04.3 Alternate"? You still haven't installed the system and are getting ready to use the Alternate install CD?
[19:24] <truepurple> delac, where is this "get software"?
[19:25] <JoeyJoeJo> Jordan_U: No, I've installed 10.04.3 alternate and I'm running a 2.6.32 kernel. I'd like to upgrade the kernel to at least 2.6.33
[19:25] <delac> truepurple: just below the File Edit View Help
[19:26] <Jordan_U> JoeyJoeJo: There is no such thing as "10.04.3 alternate". There is the alternate installer, but it installs the same Ubuntu that the Desktop installer does.
[19:26] <truepurple> delac, in the software center?
[19:26] <delac> yes
[19:27] <Jordan_U> JoeyJoeJo: So it sounds like you have a standard Ubuntu 10.04.3 installation. Is that correct?
[19:27] <delac> then select the audio and video section and filter for vlc
[19:27] <JoeyJoeJo> Jordan_U: No, I used the alternate ISO and I have a headless installation
[19:27] <halfmt> truepurple, there should be a list of ppas under "Other Software" when you look at the "Software Sources" dialog.  Also I think delac is referring to your screenshot, where the VLC DailyDev PPA is selected in the left pane.  He's suggesting select the top level in those choices, I think...
[19:27] <delac> yes
[19:28] <JoeyJoeJo> Jordan_U: Let me ask it this way. In 10.04, how can I upgrade to at least a 2.6.33 kernel?
[19:28] <Jordan_U> JoeyJoeJo: OK, in the future just say that you have a headless installation.
[19:28] <JoeyJoeJo> Using CLI, no GUI tools
[19:28] <Jordan_U> JoeyJoeJo: Why do you want a newer kernel?
[19:28] <JoeyJoeJo> Because there is a bug in 2.6.32 that was fixed in 2.6.33
[19:29] <tijko> on pangolin if I want to use a wine with an application on startup how would that work
[19:29] <truepurple> halfmt, There's lots of stuff under "other software", where do I determine what word I need for the command?
[19:29] <tijko> I was thinking it might be possible to add the terminal command in a startup file in /etc
[19:29] <Jordan_U> JoeyJoeJo: Is there a reason you can't upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04?
[19:30] <ironm> hello. Please allow me one question. I have configured second interface (eth1) on ubuntu-server 12.04 (similar to et0 but with another values for ip etc) but when i tray to run "/etc/init.d/networking restart" I am getting an error: Failed to bring up eth1.
[19:30] <ironm> What do you I miss?
[19:30] <ironm> thank you in advance for any hints
[19:30] <ironm> s/et0/eth0/
[19:30] <JoeyJoeJo> Jordan_U: To make a long story short, yes. And the reason isn't so much technical as it is just a requirement. Also, my processor is 32-bit (i586). I want to say I read that 12.04 doesn't support that, but I might be wrong
[19:32] <chowder> hey all I know this has probably been asked 100 times but I really wanna remove unity. I really gave it a fair shot and I honestly can't stand it. Not trying to put down the devs that worked hard on unity its just not for me. I'd rather have just a plain gnome3 setup. Do I just uninstall unity and instal gnome or will that cause problems?
[19:32] <Jordan_U> JoeyJoeJo: Which bug in particular? It's possible to install an upstream kernel from the kernel "ppa" but it could have a lot of side effects which might cause problems.
[19:33] <razputin> Hi. I was wondering where I can find help for my ubuntu based os
[19:34] <OerHeks> chowder, you can go 'back' to the original gnome3, and install it in your current ubuntu
[19:34] <OerHeks> !nounity | chowder
[19:34] <ssta> razputin: depends what you mean by "based"
[19:34] <chowder> OerHeks: I'm using 12.04.
[19:34] <sarsaeol_> razputin: what is the name of your OS
[19:35] <razputin> ssta, It's a derivate or so. Pinguy OS.basically a netbook edition from ubuntu.based on natty whale.
[19:35] <chowder> OerHeks: I'm a little apprehensive because I've changed UIs in Ubuntu in the past and it ends up breaking everythign
[19:35] <ssta> razputin: try their website?
[19:35] <wildcard-ger> hey all
[19:35] <neure> hello
[19:35] <PARMA> chiga vp ushafika
[19:35] <neure> im trying to configure latest crosstool-ng
[19:36] <wildcard-ger> just installed ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop, always had problems with older versions, but 12.04 works like a charm really , im very happy with it
[19:36] <neure> and i keep getting missing required tool: makeinfo
[19:36] <neure> where can i get that for precise?
[19:36] <wildcard-ger> there is only one thing kinda annoying me
[19:36] <OerHeks> razputin, Ubuntu does not support derivated like pinguyos
[19:36] <chowder> OerHeks: your advice applies to 11.04 and 11.10. I'm on 12.04. Is it still the same process/
[19:37] <Jordan_U> JoeyJoeJo: What model CPU do you have? If it's from this milenium it's probably i686 and will work with Ubuntu 12.04.
[19:37] <OerHeks> chowder, the advice is for 12.04.
[19:37] <JoeyJoeJo> Jordan_U:AMD Geode. It's i586
[19:37] <JoeyJoeJo> LX800 I think
[19:37] <razputin> Hm. I thougt so. No support for every derivate or just for the little/uncommon ones?
[19:37] <chowder> OerHeks: ok. can I uninstall the unity package without incident?
[19:38] <ssta> neure: sudo apt-get install texinfo
[19:38] <wildcard-ger> i have a i3-2330M with integrated gfx ( intel hd 3000 ) and im not sure if it has been properly detected. since when i go to system -> information, it tells me "GFX - Unknown"
[19:38] <OerHeks> chowder, i would leave the unity files like that, although i have no experience with unity removal after installing gnome-panel
[19:39] <chowder> OerHeks: ok, will do
[19:40] <IronBuntu> Hello, I own a NTFS partition which I mount trough fstab. All good. My question is: What is the best way to show/mount the 'Music' folder in that NTFS partition into my Music folder, in my /home directory. Thanks
[19:41] <h00k> IronBuntu: you can do that in fstab as well
[19:41] <IronBuntu> h00k, oh really? Could you give me an example?
[19:42] <h00k> IronBuntu: now that I think of it, I ended up linking /home/Music to my /storage/Music folder, I didn't use fstab
[19:43] <IronBuntu> h00k, so you used the ln -s command?
[19:43] <schultza> how do i change my boot image (ubuntu with the 4 dots)?
[19:43] <h00k> IronBuntu: yep
[19:44] <IronBuntu> h00k, the problem is that it will create a Music folder inside my Music folder
[19:44] <IronBuntu> isn't it?
[19:44] <wylde_> IronBuntu h00k: in fstab you would simply use your Music folder as the mount point. (If your /home/Music directory is empty)
[19:44] <h00k> IronBuntu: It depends on your synatx really
[19:44] <h00k> IronBuntu: ^ wylde_ is correct
[19:45] <wylde_> IronBuntu: you can also simply replace your ~/Music directory with a link
[19:45] <roasted> hello
[19:45] <thebrasse> i can't seem to get my .xsession file to run. i have changed my window manager to qtile, but that shouldn't mess things up, should it?
[19:45] <IronBuntu> wylde_ h00k, it would work only if the partition cointained only music files, isn't it?
[19:46] <roasted> Question - When you fire up Gimp 2.8 in 12.04, you can select single window mode. When you make that change... does anybody know which file you end up editing?
[19:46] <GeoGeek> I have spent two hours googling for answers to a question but none seem to help...setting up file server on ubuntu server 12.04 for use by Windoze clients. Using Samba. Browsing from a Win client is so slow you could bring the bits across on a wheelbarrow faster. Seems to be a common problem..
[19:46] <wylde_> IronBuntu: doesn't matter what is in it, it mounts that partition to that directory. The contents don't really matter.
[19:46] <h00k> IronBuntu: you can mount /windows/Users/username/Music to /home/Music, as an example, contents don't matter
[19:46] <h00k> (as an example)
[19:46] <IronBuntu> wylde_, yeah, that wont do for me
[19:47] <IronBuntu> h00k, okay
[19:47] <h00k> IronBuntu: er, /home/username/Music, or whatever you're looking for
[19:48] <IronBuntu> hook, oh, really? So, instead of setting by its UUID, I go with the absolute path?
[19:48] <wylde_> IronBuntu: stay with the UUID, just adjust the mount point :)
[19:48] <h00k> IronBuntu: stick with the UUID
[19:49] <IronBuntu> h00k, so... it would go like: UUID=xxx\dirs\Music /mount/point?
[19:49] <Sk|p> howdy guys, just wanted to ask something.. any idea what seems to be the problem why i'm getting such error everytime i do $sudo apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1029204/ tnx
[19:49] <IronBuntu> h00k, sorry about the bars
[19:49] <bin_bash> i have a question
[19:50] <bin_bash> how come i'm not suposed to use sudo to open a graphical program as root
[19:50] <bin_bash> how come i have to use gksu
[19:50] <ssta> bin_bash: because sometimes .Xauthority becomes owned by root, anmd that's bad
[19:50] <zykotick9> !gksudo | bin_bash
[19:50] <h00k> bin_bash: http://gavin2u.wordpress.com/2007/09/22/using-gksu-vs-sudo/ this explains it quite well
[19:51] <zykotick9> Sk|p: "b43.blacklist=yes" i'd post your /etc/default/grub if i where you.
[19:51] <ssta> bin_bash: 90% of the time it won't matter...but the times it DOES matter, it will be painful.  Better to get into the habit of using gksu instead
[19:51] <zykotick9> ssta: +1 (good description)
[19:52] <bin_bash> that's silly.
[19:52] <bin_bash> you guys are silly.
[19:52] <Sk|p> zykotick9: oks.. hold on m8..
[19:52] <h00k> IronBuntu: I think you want to use 'bind' as an argument, hang on a second
[19:52] <ssta> bin_bash: *shrug*.  You're free to ignore the advice
[19:52] <m8> :o
[19:52] <IronBuntu> h00k, hm, okay
[19:52] <bin_bash> it's like how you guys don't like using su
[19:52] <bin_bash> i don't undersand that eiher
[19:53] <bin_bash> ssta, how come you don't use su
[19:53] <acicula> bin_bash: gksu avoids that some files in your home will be owned by root, which is what you want
[19:53] <bin_bash> acicula, that doesn't even make any sense
[19:53] <acicula> su is something else, its avoided because being root is different and more error prone then running stuff as root
[19:53] <ssta> bin_bash: again, there are (a VERY few) times when you need a root login.  But they're rare, and the rest of the time, use sudo.  Again, you're free to ignore the advice (many people do)
[19:54] <Sk|p> zykotick9: here you go m8, tnx http://paste.ubuntu.com/1029219/
[19:54] <m8> Sk|p, :O
[19:54] <bin_bash> sudo is less secure than su though, ssta
[19:54] <zykotick9> i you need a root terminal - you're probably doing something wrong (in ubuntu)
[19:54] <ssta> bin_bash: umm, I don't see how...
[19:54] <ssta> zykotick9: nah, there are (very rare) use cases where it's necessary...
[19:54] <bin_bash> ssta, if someone gains access to your box all they need is your password to gain root access.
[19:55] <ssta> bin_bash: that's true anyway.  If I have access to tghe box I own IT and all the data on it!
[19:55] <Sk|p> m8: hehehe ;)
[19:55] <bin_bash> ssta, but it's good security practice to have a different root password than your user password
[19:55] <zykotick9> Sk|p: comment out b43.blacklist=yes, then "sudo update-grub", then rebot
[19:55] <ssta> bin_bash: better security practice to not have a root account at all...
[19:55] <Kartagis> hi
[19:55] <h00k> IronBuntu: I would first mount the ntfs block device as /windows or something, and then bind that...an example: http://mikeyshelpdesk.blogspot.com/2011/08/creating-folder-to-folder-mount-point.html
[19:56] <bin_bash> ssta, wat... that doesn't make any sense at all.
[19:56] <m8> Sk|p, ;)
[19:56] <ssta> bin_bash: but ultimately, it's YOUR box.  If you want a root account there's nothing stopping you from having one.  We just advise against it
[19:56] <Kartagis> ubuntu doesn't recognise my microphone
[19:56] <bin_bash> It's more secure to have a root account and have a separate password for it
[19:56] <Kartagis> my sound card info is at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5211d98f6c9220c897789e6b0ffffe21b24a741c
[19:56] <acicula> its more secure to not have a root password period
[19:56] <bin_bash> because that way if someone gains access to your user, they don't have root access.
[19:56] <zykotick9> Sk|p: blacklisting isn't in grub's config file, sorry can't find the correct file for blacklisting... modules or something???
[19:56] <bin_bash> acicula, that doesn't make any sense.
[19:57] <acicula> bin_bash: ubuntu by default doesnt have one
[19:57] <h00k> perhaps this discussion could move to #ubuntu-offtopic, since it's not a support question
[19:57] <IronBuntu> h00k, I think that's what I was looking for
[19:57] <ssta> bin_bash: 20 years of best practice says otherwise, but okay.  If you want root, go ahead
[19:57] <acicula> so you can notlogin as root
[19:57] <bin_bash> acicula, I know this, but let's say I somehow gain access to your user
[19:57] <daddycat> i have a support question :)
[19:57] <bin_bash> and I have your password
[19:57] <bin_bash> I can do anything the root user can do
[19:57] <bin_bash> because you use sudo
[19:58] <IronBuntu> h00k, gonna try it out man, thanks a bunch, I will let you know if it did
[19:58] <halfmt> did you try re-installing? any luck?
[19:58] <h00k> !ot | bin_bash, acicula
[19:58] <h00k> IronBuntu: good luck :)
[19:59] <Sk|p> zykotick9: i just commented out and run the command again, it appeared that the problem is fix and i got my other boot partitions recovered.. tnx :) now i hope it wont break this silly broadcom wifi
[19:59] <thebrasse> hi! neither my .xession or .xinit is executed when i log in. what could the reason for that be?
[20:00] <thebrasse> s/xession/xsession/
[20:00] <guntbert> daddycat: just ask
[20:01] <bren2010> Can anybody help me with setting up passwordless sudo?  I've tried some guides but they're, not working.
[20:01] <wdp> thebrasse, im not using ubuntu for a long time, but apart from that you mispelled both (xsession and xinitrc) as far as i know, xinitrc is only used when you use startx. That means if you use a login manager (like gdm) that file won't be used.
[20:01] <wdp> thebrasse, might be different in ubuntu, though.
[20:01] <zykotick9> Sk|p: if you need to blacklist something, you should probably look after that... sorry, i don't know what's current on ubuntu (and i don't need any blacklists on any of my machines)
[20:02] <IronBuntu> h00k, rebooting
[20:02] <Stacole> join /#ubuntu-es
[20:02] <Sk|p> zykotick9: no problem mate.. maybe the wifi issue is fix since i've notice it pulled several updates after dist-upgrade.. will try to reboot and find out. tnx for your help
[20:02] <zykotick9> wdp: i'd guess the startx for .xinitrc is probably Xorg universal ;)
[20:03] <wdp> zykotick9, yeah.
[20:03] <zykotick9> Sk|p: glad to help, good luck
[20:03] <wdp> bren2010, i guess, you don't want to hear "don't"?
[20:03] <Stacole> Hola!!! Alguien me puede decir por que no puedo extraer mp3 de WinFF
[20:03] <daddycat> i have a hopelessly corrupted Windows XP Pro OS on my hard drive.  I have been dodging it by using a Knoppix live CD OS to use my computer.  Today i got Ubuntu 12.04 in the mail, on a CD.  I tried to boot with it, but Windows keeps coming up, even tho i have been booting from CDROM and my BIOS is set to do so.  Computer doesnt seem to be acknowledging the CD at all.  Any ideas?
[20:03] <bren2010> wdp, not really, lol, because it's not an option.
[20:04] <guntbert> !es | Stacole
[20:04] <wdp> bren2010, using sudo like that, is like working the whole time as root. So if you really need that, give your user root permission and you don't need sudo at all.
[20:04] <wdp> bren2010, but, you really don't want that.
[20:04] <ssta> wdp: umm, wha?!
[20:04] <bren2010> wdp, could you tell me how to do that, then?  =/
[20:04] <zykotick9> !noroot
[20:05] <Stacole> ubottu,  gracias
[20:05] <wdp> ssta, he asked how to let sudo not ask for a password.
[20:05] <wylde_> good way to get someone spanked in here, asking for that :P
[20:05] <ssta> wdp: yes...that's NOT the same as running as root
[20:05] <daddycat> hi ubottu... any thots on my question, above?
[20:05] <wdp> bren2010, for specific commands or for everything?
[20:05] <bren2010> Everything.
[20:06] <wdp> ssta, :)
[20:06] <zykotick9> sercurity?  who needs security - passwords are a waste of time </sarcasm>
[20:06] <dustinspringman> anyone here been successful getting an Lg-LV600 LTE 4G modem running in 12.04?
[20:06] <wdp> bren2010, sorry, i can't help there.
[20:07] <Cyonx> daddycat: so far as i am aware, all ubuntu isos are bootable CDs. if you know your computer boots from cd (I would assume so, since knoppix boots), then chances are your 12.04 disc may be defective.
[20:07] <bren2010> Why not?  o.0
[20:07] <guntbert> bren2010: don't do it
[20:07] <gim_> daddycat: It is a bot, btw
[20:07] <bren2010> guntbert, that's not an option.
[20:07] <schultza> something screwed up my "loading screen" (the ubuntu with the 4 dots) how do i repair this? or replace it?
[20:07] <bren2010> guntbert, I /need/ to do it.
[20:07] <guntbert> bren2010: what is the issue?
[20:07] <bren2010> Getting sudo not to ask for a password.
[20:07] <daddycat> gim... lol ok.  it seemed smart so i asked it
[20:07] <wdp> ssta, just to verify; in that case, i'm correct, its the same as giving a user root perm, am i?
[20:08] <ssta> wdp: no
[20:08] <ssta> wdp: they still need to type "sudo" to have root permissions#
[20:08] <schultza> bren2010, it's a BIG major security NO-NO
[20:08] <daddycat> Cyonx: well i have five of them, so i guess i will try all five CDs
[20:08] <wdp> ssta, mhm. well, okay. thanks.
[20:08] <bren2010> schultza, I don't really care.  =/
[20:08] <Cyonx> 5 of them?
[20:08] <guntbert> bren2010: no, I asked what is the issue why you need that
[20:09] <daddycat> pack of 5 CDs
[20:09] <bren2010> guntbert, setting up Vagrant.
[20:09] <daddycat> thats how they send em
[20:09] <Cyonx> each one is a burnt copy of an iso?
[20:09] <schultza> otherwise, because of that, i dont think anyone really knows... other than having no password for your own account
[20:09] <guntbert> bren2010: what is vagrant?
[20:09] <schultza> and again... another BIG NO-NO in security
[20:09] <ssta> wdp: it's still not recommended for the general case, although it's common in specific use-cases
[20:09] <bren2010> guntbert, http://vagrantup.com/
[20:10] <IronBuntu> h00k: man, it worked like a champ!
[20:10] <wdp> ssta, you're in the offtopic chan or allowed to pm to talk about that? guess further talk would be very ot'ish.
[20:10] <daddycat> Cyonx: i dont know what it is.  I ordered it online from the Ubuntu website... CDs have the official Ubuntu logo on them
[20:10] <ssta> wdp: sure
[20:10] <IronBuntu> h00k: thanks a lot, that was exactly what I was looking for
[20:10] <h00k> IronBuntu: perfect :) Also, sudo mount -a would have been a way you can test it in the future
[20:10] <guntbert> bren2010: and why will that demand super user priviledges without password?
[20:11] <Cyonx> yeah, try booting off each one of them.  i've never ordered cds off the site. my guess is either some of them are supplimental CDs, which indeed wouldn't boot, or they sent you a full pack with like, ubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu, etc.
[20:11] <h00k> IronBuntu: that parses through the fstab and mounts things as fstab directs
[20:11] <bren2010> guntbert, for doing mounts, shutdowns, etc.  Things that you would control from inside the VM.
[20:11] <IronBuntu> h00k, gonna look further into that.. Thanks, gonna enjoy a little here now :) the system is getting awesome! I wish you a happy life :D
[20:12] <daddycat> Cyonx: it was a bulk order of five, supposedly identical.  It was the fewest i could order
[20:12] <h00k> IronBuntu: you as well. Peace :)
[20:12] <daddycat> but i suppose the first one may have been defective
[20:12] <Cyonx> daddycat: that'd be my first guess based on the circumstances.
[20:12] <guntbert> bren2010: you want to shut down the host from a VM? Why?
[20:13] <tuxgeek> daddycat: you could have just downloaded the .iso
[20:13] <bren2010> guntbert, other way around.
[20:13] <daddycat> k... well i will experiment with the others.  tx
[20:13] <daddycat> tuxgeek: long story, but no i cant
[20:14] <tuxgeek> ahh
[20:14] <rhomboetric> is there any way to disable the autostart during boot of network-manager?
[20:14] <rhomboetric> so that i have to start it manually?
[20:14] <rhomboetric> via service network-manager start?
[20:15] <guntbert> bren2010: in both virtual environments I know it is possible to send a shutdown signal to the VM
[20:15] <rhomboetric> update-rc.d -f network-manager remove didnt work
[20:16] <trism> rhomboetric: echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/network-manager.override;
[20:16] <zykotick9> rhomboetric: that's the pre-upstart method.  cd into /etc/init/ and look for a n-m name, then mv it to a new filename like "n-m.disabled" then restarting should ------ trism wtf, use that!
[20:17] <rhomboetric> did that aswell...after this i cant start network-manager via service n-w start
[20:17] <trism> rhomboetric: if you move it, you can't start it manually, you can with override files or commenting out the start on line of the .conf file
[20:18] <zykotick9> rhomboetric: doh.  i have no idea man (why aren't ubuntu users expected to want to disable services?  upstart ftl).  again, trism ftw.
[20:19] <rhomboetric> ill try this trism, thank you very much :) zykotick9 aswell :)
[20:19] <guntbert> trism: can you point me/us to a place where those things are documented? (about upstart)
[20:19] <zykotick9> guntbert: te he... good luck.
[20:20] <trism> guntbert: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[20:21] <zykotick9> "Rename the job configuration file such that it does not end with ".conf"." lol, so the /etc/init renaming is a suggested solution - interesting.
[20:21] <guntbert> trism: thx!! I never saw that cookbook before
[20:22] <qurve> Anyone here work with cloud config much?
[20:22]  * zykotick9 wonders why a gnome-gui service manager has been absent for so long...
[20:23] <schultza> how do i change the splash screen?
[20:24] <tuxgeek> schultza: to verbose?
[20:24] <Yankees52> iz linux mint built off of ubuntu?
[20:24] <schultza> no... it was ubuntu, not it shows xubuntu... i still want to have it show ubuntu, and maybe something custom lateer
[20:24] <zykotick9> Yankees52: yes (lmde is debian based obviously).  but mint is OT here.
[20:24] <prashant_123456> cannot install ubuntu shell themes
[20:24] <Yankees52> is there a mint room?
[20:25] <zykotick9> !mint | Yankees52
[20:25] <schultza> ok.. rebooting again (following a web site instructions)
[20:27] <schultza> nope.. that didnt work
[20:28] <schultza> my boot/splash screen (AFTER grub and BEFORE login) needs to change to another image. how do i do this?
[20:32] <neure> is the program to snow network usage by program?
[20:33] <neure> something like nettop
[20:34] <wylde_> schultza: are you asking about plymouth?
[20:34] <wylde_> !info plymouth | schultza
[20:35] <schultza> i guess i am.. how do i use it?
[20:35] <tuxgeek> !myunity
[20:36] <f2prateek> hi, i'm getting the "Package sun-java6-jdk has no installation candidate" error even after running " add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner"  ". Any fix for this?
[20:36] <xangua> f2prateek: oracle java is no longer on ubuntu repositories
[20:37] <schultza> i dont see the option in myunity
[20:37] <xangua> f2prateek: you can try openjdk wich already is on ubuntu repository or manually download and install java from it's webpage
[20:37] <subdesign> do I need defragment my ext4 filesystem?
[20:37] <subdesign> i read different opinions about it
[20:38] <wylde_> schultza: moment, I seem to recall seeing a utility or 2 in the repos.
[20:38] <f2prateek> xangua: thanks! the only workaround i had found before this was building it with somebodys github script
[20:38] <guntbert> subdesign: no
[20:39] <guntbert> !defrag | subdesign
[20:39] <hop5uk> Can anybody tell me why this raid 5 array is displaying U__ at the end -md2 : active raid5 sde[3](S) sdd[1](F) sdc[0]       1953522816 blocks super 1.2 level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [3/1] [U__]
[20:39] <subdesign> nice, thx
[20:41] <guntbert> hop5uk: because only one disk (of 3) is present - that would mean it is dead
[20:41] <wylde_> schultza: bahhh I'm drawing a blank on the gui utilities I saw. Can't recall the name.
[20:42] <hop5uk> When you say dead ,do you mean faulty
[20:42] <erwin> Hello everybody. I have a problem with installing another language in ubuntu 11.10
[20:43] <erwin> I can install a language but it is not displayed in the gnome-language-selector
[20:43] <guntbert> !who | hop5uk
[20:44] <schultza> plymouth-manager, but the other repos failed to install/update so i cant get that
[20:44] <guntbert> hop5uk: yes, a raid5 array can only preserve data while one disk is missing, when two fail your data are lost
[20:44] <wylde_> schultza: ahh yep. You can do it from CLI though.
[20:45] <iulix> cheers ubuntu people!
[20:45] <iulix> need some help with freshly installed 12.04 pls
[20:45] <tuxgeek> howdy!
[20:45] <tuxgeek> shoot
 IAll three disks are brand new
[20:45] <iulix> it won't turn on my wi-fi
[20:46] <iulix> I can't connect to internet at all
[20:46] <schultza> how?
[20:46] <tuxgeek> iulix: even with wired access?
[20:47] <erwin> can anybody help me please?
[20:47] <iulix> wired not sure, because there only wi-fi in my house
[20:47] <MFen> erwin: sup
[20:47] <tuxgeek> iulix: is it a dual boot?
[20:47] <iulix> as for wireless, when I go to settings>network and turn on the wireless button, its turning back off instantly
[20:47] <phunyguy> I am having an issue with volume control.  If I go into audio settings, it shows the volume at 60%, yet volume on sound icon up top is 100%.  Also with my laptop sound buttons, max volume is still only 60% in Audio settings.  I can bring the volume to 100% in audio settings, and it gets NICE and loud!  Can anyone help me?
[20:47] <wylde_> schultza: I believe 'sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth' and once you choose the theme(you have to install more themes )  you use  'sudo update-initramfs -u'
[20:48] <iulix> if you mean that I have a dual boot system, then yes (win and ubuntu), but I think you mean something else?!
[20:48] <phunyguy> as soon as i hit the volume buttons again on the laptop, it goes back to the "lower maximum"
[20:48] <tuxgeek> no I don't
[20:48] <guntbert> hop5uk: it doesn't matter if they are new - somehow the array got borked - maybe you just need to readd/activate them
[20:48] <keith_> nick keefer
[20:48] <roasted> hi
[20:48] <tuxgeek> I think you have problems with the wireless driver
[20:49] <iulix> ok, and how I can sort this?
[20:49] <schultza> i did that before and it didnt fix it
[20:49] <alinazih> alinazih@hotmail.com
[20:49] <roasted> :)
[20:49] <tuxgeek> !driver | iulix
[20:50] <LjL> alinazih: you might prefer not to provide your email address on a publicly logged channel.
[20:50] <tuxgeek> !wireless | iulix
[20:50] <erwin> i have a problem with installing a language. It is not being displayed in gnome-language-selector.
[20:50] <guntbert> hop5uk: fire up the disk utility and have a look what it tells you about your raid5 array
[20:50] <wylde_> schultza: is the screen simply staying black until the login screen?
[20:50] <iulix> tuxgeek: thx, will check the link
[20:50] <phunyguy> ugh, nevermind, I will ask my question later when I get home.
[20:51] <theczar> just showin off irc to the LinuxSociety at BYU-Idaho
[20:51] <tuxgeek> iulix: :))
[20:51] <schultza> no... it's staying over to "xubuntu"
[20:51] <drmtech> hello
 Will try that now.Thanks
[20:52] <MFen> does ubuntu have a mechanism to run a script when a package upgrade occurs? i'm talking about as a sysadmin. i am not the package maintainer, it isn't practical to add scripts to the package itself
[20:52] <guntbert> hop5uk: and you don't need the brackets around a nick :)
[20:52] <wylde_> schultza: ok, and you have other plymouth themes installed I assume? ...hmmm I've never had a issue doing that from the CLI.
[20:52] <drmtech> i bought a new pc.how do i make ubuntu boot on a new pc from old hdd?
[20:53] <miss_ubuntu> android sdk run helloworld PANIC Could not open: /home/sana/.android/avd/my_avd.ini ...
[20:54] <yeats> schultza: what is the output of 'ls -l /etc/alternatives/default.plymouth'?
[20:54] <phillip69> hello
 hi
[20:55] <Jordan_U> drmtech: So you have an existing installation on another PC and you'd like to move this HD to the new PC and have it boot your existing installation of Ubuntu?
[20:55] <locsmif> How can I extract online CD database info from a CD? Which tool do I use?
[20:55] <guntbert> miss_ubuntu: I fail to see how that is an ubuntu issue
[20:55] <drmtech> Jordan_U, yes, that would be the best way
[20:56] <miss_ubuntu> guntbert , cause there are not so many ppl using android sdk on ubutu
[20:56] <phillip69> i was wondering where i could get free information to help me study for ubuntu LPI 199
[20:56] <CQN> is there a way to launch a desktop live usb in command line mode? i have the xubuntu version
[20:56] <guntbert> miss_ubuntu: but still: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[20:57] <iulix> tuxgeek: can you point out some more concrete steps... I can't really find what I need
[20:57] <Jordan_U> drmtech: If you have any proprietary drivers enabled in your existing Ubuntu install then disable them, other than that you shouldn't need to do anything more than physically move the HD and boot.
[20:57] <miss_ubuntu> yeah feel free to kick me for hoping i can find some1 here who is also  using android sdk on ubuntu ;)
[20:58] <miss_ubuntu> guntbert yeah feel free to kick me for hoping i can find some1 here who is also  using android sdk on ubuntu ;)
[20:58]  * haylo kicks miss_ubuntu 
[20:58] <Jordan_U> miss_ubuntu: You might have better luck in #android-dev
[20:58] <MatthewWilkes> Hey all, I asked this earlier but got no response, thought I'd try again. I have two ipv6 connections on a virtualised 11.04. One is a bridge to my real network, the other is a SLIP tunnel. I would like to bridge the two, but I can't add a tunnel to a bridge using bridge-utils - what is the proper approach for basically taking the SLIP connection and pushing its packets straight through to eth0?
[20:59] <guntbert> miss_ubuntu: I am not talking about kicking
[20:59] <miss_ubuntu> guntbert :)
[20:59] <drmtech> Jordan_U, and it will start, even if hardware is somewhat different? e.g. amd vs intel
[20:59] <tuxgeek> iulix: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WirelessTroubleshootingProcedure
[21:00] <andrija> hi everyone
[21:00] <andrija> when im installing ubuntu on win 7 machine
[21:00] <andrija> does wobi take me to grub or to windows book manager
[21:00] <andrija> wubi?
[21:00] <andrija> boot manager
[21:01] <ssta> andrija: boot manager
[21:01] <tuxgeek> iulix: follow those steps...it should help you
[21:01] <Jordan_U> drmtech: Correct. Everything but proprietary drivers is configured at each boot.
[21:01] <iulix> it says that first of all I must connect a lan cable to my pc - this is not possible in my case :S
[21:01] <andrija> so if one day i want to remove ubuntu i want have to bother aroud wubi?
[21:02] <drmtech> Jordan_U, and how do i disable those drivers?:)
[21:02] <ssta> andrija: I think you can remove it from ad/remove programs
[21:02] <Jordan_U> drmtech: In the "Additional drivers" tool. If you haven't enabled them yourself then you're not using any though.
[21:03] <Chuck_Norris> aloha all :D
[21:03] <andrija> but will removing it also delete my windows partition?
[21:03] <Chuck_Norris> *wind sounds*
[21:03] <drmtech> Jordan_U, the problem is that the new machine is win7
[21:03] <drmtech> and the old dead one was ubuntu
[21:03] <ssta> andrija: no
[21:03] <Milaan> why is it saying no such file or directory?
[21:03] <Milaan> http://gyazo.com/b4c610087b37da117d09dbad7dda5ce3
[21:03] <drmtech> so i would have to change sumething either by hand or by some console editor
[21:03] <Baribal> Anybody know how I can show a video in the X root window / desktop background?
[21:04] <andrija> so ubuntu acts as a win program but runs as OS?
[21:04] <ssta> andrija: yes, sort of
[21:05] <ssta> andrija: it installs to a virtual drive inside the windows OS, but boots from the windows boot menu
[21:05] <andrija> ok tahanx for support :)
[21:05] <Jordan_U> drmtech: When you boot from the hard drive containing Ubuntu it will be an Ubuntu machine :)
[21:05] <Chuck_Norris> Baribal: idk what you write but... i think you'r searching for somthing like this: http://swik.net/xwinwrap
[21:05] <drmtech> thanx Jordan_U
[21:05] <Milaan> why is it saying no such file or directory found?
[21:05] <Milaan> http://gyazo.com/b4c610087b37da117d09dbad7dda5ce3
[21:05] <drmtech> i will try it:)
[21:05] <Jordan_U> drmtech: You're welcome.
[21:05] <Chuck_Norris> Baribal: GUI: http://code.google.com/p/gwinwrap/
[21:05] <OerHeks> Milaan, then it does not exist. check your url
[21:06] <yeats> Milaan: do 'ls' - does the file show?
[21:06] <Chuck_Norris> Baribal: some like this? www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yM8aPCePvA
[21:06] <tomodo> hi
[21:06] <tomodo> does anyone know how I can get this program to open at start up?
[21:06] <Milaan> thanks yeats, it shows hldsupdatetool.bin.1 - - how can I make it just .bin
[21:06] <tomodo> its a menubar thing that tells you to take a break every so often
[21:06] <andrija> an one more q..can i install 64 bit ubuntu on 32 bit win machine that supports 64 bit?
[21:07] <yeats> Milaan: 'mv hldsupdatetool.bin.1 hldsupdatetool.bin'
[21:07] <Milaan> thank you so much ;)
[21:07] <xxiao> trying to install 64bit ubuntu on virtualbox under 10.04 64bit ubuntu
[21:07]  * angel1986 is back.
[21:07] <xxiao> virtualbox 4.1.6 keeps complaining only i686 is detected?
[21:08] <xxiao> i chose vt-x at both bios and virtualbox itself already
[21:08] <yeats> xxiao: you chose "Ubuntu 64 bit" as the OS type?
[21:08] <xxiao> the host ubuntu 1004 is running x86_64 just fine
[21:08] <xxiao> yeats...that might be the cause, let me check
[21:09] <Baribal> Chuck_Norris, that video would be a nice choice for a movie, but I'm missing the windows in front of it which that guy is working with.
[21:09] <locsmif> cd-discid: /dev/sg1: CDROMREADTOCHDR: Operation not permitted
[21:09] <locsmif> What's that?
[21:10] <Chuck_Norris> Baribal: os the same thing, just insted of wallpaper run a movie
[21:10] <Chuck_Norris> is* the...
[21:10] <yeats> locsmif: can you provide some context? what are you trying to do to what? ;-)
[21:10] <locsmif> yeats: I'm ripping one of my CD's and I don't want to manually edit the song titles into the mp3 id tags
[21:10] <locsmif> yeats: I'm experimenting with extracting cddb info from the TOC
[21:11] <yeats> locsmif: have you tried abcde?
[21:11] <yeats> !info abcde
[21:11] <locsmif> yeats: that was abcde
[21:11] <Baribal> Chuck_Norris, yes, that's exactly what I'm looking for.
[21:11] <yeats> locsmif: I see :-/
[21:11] <fauxsoup> Quick question: I'm trying to use the color calibrate tool, but the calibrate button is disabled no matter what I do. Whyfor!? Ubuntu 12.04 with proprietary NVidia drivers
[21:11] <locsmif> yeats: abcde uses cd-discid for that, it seems, so I tried cd-discid in isolation
[21:12] <xxiao> yeats: thanks a lot. now it tells me i did not enable VT-x in BIOS, i failed to find on this new HP box
[21:12] <locsmif> I should prolly google the error
[21:12] <xxiao> is it hidden under UEFI?
[21:13] <yeats> xxiao: ah - this is UEFI?  sorry - I don't have any experience with that yet
[21:13] <Chuck_Norris> Baribal: the command for a movie is some like this: xwinwrap -fs -sp -ni -nf -st -s -b -- mplayer "$FILE" -quiet -noconsolecontrols -loop 0 -wid WID
[21:13]  * yeats dreads it, actually
[21:13] <borup_> Hi ! Do i have to make a command to get help ?
[21:13] <xxiao> is there a way to check if vt-x/amd-v is enabled, cat /proc/cpuinfo did not find any vt string
[21:13] <Chuck_Norris> and for a wallpaper is: xwinwrap -ni -argb -fs -s -st -sp -b -nf -- /usr/lib/xscreensaver/glmatrix -window-id WID
[21:13] <OccupyDemonoid> What would be the best desktop for VNC?
[21:13] <OccupyDemonoid> I mean desktop environment.
[21:14] <fauxsoup> OccupyDemonoid: A shell.
[21:14] <xxiao> yeats: i want to * those M$ guys for UEFI, indeed
[21:14] <ssta> xxiao: ook for either vmx or sv m (one is intel the other is amd, I don't remember which is which, sorry)
[21:14] <Jordan_U> xxiao: What is the output of "kvm-ok"?
[21:14] <borup_> Does anyone know how to invert mouse axis on 7.04 ?
[21:15] <Baribal> I now have stumbled over this problem with apt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1029375/
[21:15] <Jordan_U> borup_: Ubuntu 7.04 ?
[21:15] <cliff_> hey, Im very new to apache, and i just followed a tutorial on installing squirrelmail, but now when i go to my site, it automatically goes to squirrelmail instead of index.php.  how do i change this?  I looked in httpd.conf and it was empty.  I cant find where to set DirectoryIndex, or whether it would work.  Any suggestions?
[21:15] <Chuck_Norris> 7.04? @_@
[21:15] <borup_> Yes.. i know it's an old distro
[21:15] <borup_> I'm hardware bounded
[21:15] <xxiao> Jordan_U: INFO: Your CPU supports KVM extensions
[21:15] <xxiao> Jordan_U: INFO: KVM is disabled by your BIOS
[21:15] <Jordan_U> borup_: We don't support EOL releases, and 7.04 is loooong since EOL.
[21:15] <Jordan_U> xxiao: Well, at least you know that for sure now.
[21:16] <borup_> Come on, is it really that big a trouble inverting axis ?
[21:16] <xxiao> Jordan_U: thanks, i will go into the shiny bios to look up again
[21:16] <xxiao> ssta: what's ook?
[21:16] <Jordan_U> xxiao: You're welcome.
[21:16] <Chuck_Norris> bourke: how old is the computer?
[21:16] <locsmif> Google yields some info about ide-scsi being deprecated and ide-cd should be used instead, but, cd-discid doesn't provide any options
[21:16] <locsmif> Or hardly
[21:16] <Chuck_Norris> i meant procesor and ram?
[21:17] <locsmif> Anybody?
[21:17] <Chuck_Norris> sry i meant borup_ how old is your computer?
[21:17] <borup_> 11 years old, it's a tablet
[21:17] <ssta> xxiao: "look", sorry.  If there's either "vmx" or "svm" in your cpu flags, it's enabled.  One if the intel flag, the other is the AMD flag
[21:17] <Chuck_Norris> but... procesor and ram?
[21:17] <ComraDerpy> funny question.... how do i sort the dash icons? :)
[21:18] <borup_> Pentium 3, 768MB RAM
[21:18] <ComraDerpy> ctrl-drag doesnt work, etc
[21:18] <fauxsoup> Pentium 3? <3
[21:18] <borup_> 800MHz
[21:18] <fauxsoup> Oh, nostalgia.
[21:18] <xxiao> ssta: in that case, cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep vmx found that string
[21:18] <ComraDerpy> sorting dash icons? no? :)
[21:18] <borup_> And the nice thing about the darn machine is that it just works
[21:18] <locsmif> yeats: I think I need to use Ubuntu standard kernel
[21:19] <Chuck_Norris> bourke: try XFCE or LXDE if you dont't like them try Fluxbox or Open Box
[21:19] <locsmif> Linux user1-MS-7696 3.3.0-999-generic #201203160410 SMP Fri Mar 16 08:11:47 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:19] <fauxsoup> borup_: I'm pretty sure ubuntu would run on my wrist watch. ;)
[21:19] <Chuck_Norris> but install a new realease, like 12.04
[21:19] <fauxsoup> Said watch is mechanical, too.
[21:19] <locsmif> I don't have /dev/sr0
[21:19] <borup_> anyway on to the topic, i tried using xrandr but a las no luck
[21:19] <darrenlooby> I'm currently sucking at mounting a folder on my ubuntu server (on my local network) to my ubuntu desktop...  can someone point me to the correct / best tut? Please
[21:19] <locsmif> Oh wait :) I do
[21:20] <xxiao> ssta: so cpuinfo says vmx is there, kvm_ok says it's disabled in bios...
[21:20] <MatthewWilkes> So, I think I need to use radvd to advertise the subnet on the tunnel.  I have 2002:5ce9:2343:1::/64 set up on the tunnel, and 2002:5ce9:2343:0::/64 on the rest of my network, does this radvd.conf look right? http://pastie.org/4046651 (If there is somewhere else I should be asking, feel free to say so)
[21:20] <Chuck_Norris> bourke: ar least install 10.04 which is still supported
[21:20] <Chuck_Norris> at* least...
[21:21] <borup_> I cant do that, the new graphics driver doesn't support intel 830
[21:21] <edgy> Hi, I tried to import a file to muon that contaim package names and now I got "'The package system could not be initialized, your configuration may be broken.". I guess the file is not in the proper format but how can I get muon back? I closed and restart but getting the same error.
[21:21] <locsmif> yeats: wow, it works great now
[21:21] <guntbert> Chuck_Norris: bor<tab> :)
[21:21] <yeats> locsmif: great
[21:21] <Jordan_U> borup_: You can always use VESA.
[21:22] <locsmif> yeats, it's about using /dev/sr0
[21:22] <ComraDerpy> you guys gonna make me ask ubuntu? :P
[21:22] <locsmif> yeats: the scsi interface...
[21:22] <gld1982ltd> hey all, i need to set the desktop environment variable so certain app menu items show in lubuntu. those app menu items that say NotShownIn: GNOME;LXDE and so on.
[21:22] <Chuck_Norris> borup_: deamn i have to sleep that's the question with me right now =P
[21:22] <ssta> xxiao: it being in the flags just means the CPU supports it.  It may still be disabled in the bios
[21:22] <borup_> I know, but 7.04 works out of the box i dont have to setup my stylus
[21:22] <Chuck_Norris> borup_: bourke: at least install 10.04 which is still supported
[21:22] <xxiao> ssta: ok, thanks!
[21:22] <docmur> I'm still super confused by DNS records.  So I have my top level domain in my A record which has the IP of the server I want to route the domain to.   I setup a mailserver on that server and so I put mail.domain.com, smtp.domain.com, imap.domain.com and pop.domain.com in my mx records.   Do I also have to CNAME the records?  Right now if I ping mail.kw-flipup.ca ( the mail server ) it's pointing to a random IP set up on godaddy and not t
[21:22] <docmur> he IP of the domain, is this correct?
[21:23] <Chuck_Norris> i meant guntbert "i have to sleep... cya all
[21:23] <borup_> Ok, I just need to know, last time i tried using the VESA driver i ended up in a console window instead of gui
[21:23] <borup_> so is there any specific procedure installing through VESA ?
[21:23] <guntbert> borup_: you always try with a live CD
[21:24] <borup_> I dont have an external drive
[21:24] <Milaan> when i do ./hldsupdatetool.bin I get permission denied (im logged in as root)
[21:24] <Milaan> how can I change that =p
[21:24] <borup_> unetbootin + usb stick ?
[21:24] <yeats> Milaan: what is the output of 'ls -l hldsupdatetool.bin'?
[21:24] <OccupyDemonoid> When I try and connect to Lubuntu via vnc all I can get is a gray background, a terminal I cannot type in and a message saying "Failed to start Ubuntu".
[21:25] <nownot> when I try to remove redmine on my ubuntu box I get http://pastie.org/4046678 subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 10 … any ideas?
[21:25] <Milaan> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3513408 may 12 2005 hldsupdatetool.bin
[21:25] <ComraDerpy> TIMEOUT, thank you ubuntu forums
[21:25] <yeats> Milaan: do 'chmod +x hldsupdatetool.bin' then try again
[21:25] <Milaan> oh crap meant to do that first lmao, my bad.. <3 this support
[21:26] <xxiao> yeats: thanks for the help, saved me lots of googling-around time
[21:26] <nownot> "subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 10" no idea on how to fix this
[21:26] <xxiao> ssta: i found that VT-x under UEFI, hiding under Security,not sure why
[21:26] <Milaan> yeats: now it says no such file or directory which was my problem earlier
[21:26] <Xeronix> Hey guys, where would I be able to get help with my XL2TPD/OpenSwan/PPP VPN server?
[21:27] <borup_> Cant I upgrade my distro through the update manager ?
[21:27] <ssta> xxiao: hehe, strange place to put it
[21:27] <yeats> Milaan: does it show up when you do 'ls -l'?
[21:27] <xxiao> finally, i'm loading 64bit 12.04 to virtualbox on 10.04, time to kick off my cloud-experiments on 12.04
[21:27] <Milaan> yes
[21:27] <yeats> borup_: nope - not from 7.04 :-/
[21:28] <Milaan> yeats: yes
[21:28] <nownot> yo yo yo, anyone please? subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 10
[21:28] <yeats> Milaan: can you share what you are literally typing?
[21:28] <borup_> damn it.. anyway how about unetbootin a usb stick and a keyboard that should do the trick
[21:28] <xxiao> ssta: google told me on another bios it's hidden under overclocking...
[21:28] <Milaan> yeats: ./hldsupatetool.bin
[21:29] <xxiao> not sure why by default they disable VT-x??
[21:29] <yeats> so the chmod command worked, but that one doesn't?
[21:29] <yeats> Milaan: ^^
[21:29] <Milaan> yeats: ii didn't get a response for the chmod command but i think so o.O
[21:30] <pguimaraes> ola
[21:30] <yeats> Milaan: no reponse means it worked, you only get chatter when there's an error (by default)
[21:30] <Milaan> yeats: so the answer is yes :P
[21:31] <darrenlooby> I get "mount.nfs: Connection timed out" when attempting to mount a network folder - any hints?
[21:31] <yeats> Milaan: can you do another screenshot/pastebin of the output of 'ls -l'?
[21:31] <Milaan> sure
[21:31] <iulix> anybody specialized in solving wi-fi adapter problems?
[21:32] <borup_> Aight, when i try to install ubuntu using the vesa driver, are there any boot options i should write, or is there a guide installing with that driver ?
[21:33] <Milaan> yeats: screen snapr isn't working so I used gyazo, I hope that's fine http://gyazo.com/5a47601988df725f16a334cc633adaba
[21:34] <Smilex> does unity require compiz?
[21:35] <xangua> Smilex: unity uses compiz
[21:36] <Milaan> yeats: did u see my message? just making sure
[21:36] <Smilex> xangua, oh ok. Thanks
[21:36] <borup_> im going to try to install 10.04 now, i'll let you know if there's any trouble
[21:37] <Milaan> yeats: screen snapr isn't working so I used gyazo, I hope that's fine http://gyazo.com/5a47601988df725f16a334cc633adaba
[21:38] <slyborg> anyone know tried to install gnuchess in 12.04? once installed i cant find it through the dash in unity or in gnome 3 menu
[21:38] <yeats> Milaan: I see you - had to step a away for a sec
[21:38] <Milaan> alright :)
[21:38] <madzik> hello is anyone here familiar with pjsip?
[21:39] <mouse> How do I change the file associate for unknown file types?
[21:39] <nownot> I'm installing redmine and the last line of the install says Redmine instance "default" database must be configured manually …. any ideas on how to fix this?
[21:40] <yeats> Milaan: ah - it's a typo - you were typing './hldsupatetool.bin' - you're missing a 'd'
[21:41] <Milaan> same thing when it's correct
[21:41] <Milaan> yeats: http://gyazo.com/417ba1a9920008036baa07054ca436c2
[21:41] <yeats> Milaan: you can type './hld [TAB]' and the tab key will autocomplete the name for you - helpful in preventing typos
[21:41] <stueng> hi, I can ping google by IP address but not hostname, cant resolve. inside my interfaces file I have a name server, a name server I know works and that I can ping
[21:41] <stueng> any suggestions ?
[21:43] <stueng> ping?
[21:43]  * angel1986 is away: Gone away for now
[21:43] <user99112> Hi, I am in the process of trying to install ubuntu 12.04 . I am getting this error: "Unable to install bootloader on device /dev/sda" and it tells me I will have to manually install a bootloader. Can someone help me?
[21:44] <thecarlhall> is there a setting to have my microphone *not* self adjust as I talk?
[21:44] <Milaan> yeats: http://gyazo.com/417ba1a9920008036baa07054ca436c2
[21:45] <yeats> Milaan: have a look: http://superuser.com/questions/248512/why-do-i-get-command-not-found-when-the-binary-file-exists
[21:45] <jarubyh> I've got a new installation on my Compaq RC4000, but I can't find any drivers for the WiFi card (it's a BCL4306) do any of you know where I can find a driver for it?
[21:46] <jarubyh> I'm on 12.04
[21:46] <L3top> stueng: you should define your nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf not /etc/network/interfaces
[21:47] <Milaan> yeats: hm i'll go to my vps support I guess, ty
[21:47] <stueng> ubuntu did it not me :P
[21:47] <L3top> No.
[21:47] <dustinspringman> any sawse bawses here tonight that have been able to get a LG-LV600 4G USB dongle to function?? The system reports the dongle is present with "usb-devices" and dmesg detects when it is inserted.. Just never shows up in the wireless manager.. ?
[21:47] <yeats> Milaan: best of luck - bizarre issue :-/
[21:47] <stueng> L3top: whats the syntax in resolv ?
[21:47] <Milaan> yeah guess so
[21:48] <L3top> nameserver 127.0.0.1               same with domain and search etc.
[21:48] <stefan_> anyone know how i would compile curl with ssl support? every time i've tried it in the past, it hasn't worked...
[21:49] <yeats> stefan_: curl from the repositories has SSL support, doesn't it?
[21:49] <stueng> thanks leagris
[21:49] <stueng> L3top:
[21:49] <yeats> stefan_: see 'man curl'
[21:50] <stefan_> yeats: but i mean for development; that is, using libcurl.
[21:50] <L3top> np
[21:50] <stefan_> i'm aware that i don't have a /usr/local/ssl folder. I guess I should go about installing OpenSSL there first.
[21:50] <OccupyDemonoid> On VNC, what does "failed to load session "ubuntu"" mean?
[21:51] <KFP> Hi. Is it a known bug in 12.04 that the launcher doesn't always show up when you move the mouse to the left side?
[21:51] <eagle_eye> KFP: using Myunity?
[21:52] <KFP> eagle_eye: I'm not sure. ._.    Just the standard interface. Upgraded from 11.10.
[21:53] <yeats> KFP: see bug 970038
[21:53] <eagle_eye> KFP: sudo apt-get install myunity
[21:53] <OerHeks> jarubyh, isn't it BCM 4306 ?
[21:53] <jarubyh> http://www.linlap.com/wiki/hp-compaq+presario+r4000 is my source.
[21:54] <luka> luka
[21:54] <jarubyh> Anyway, I followed their link to a driver for my card, but it's an EXE, not an INF.
[21:54] <OerHeks> jarubyh, i assume a typo
[21:54] <KFP> yeats: Thanks!
[21:54] <OerHeks> !b43
[21:55] <jarubyh> Well, my problem is, I've found a driver, but it's not an INF (so I can't use it with ndiswrapper)
[21:55] <jarubyh> should I run the exe under Wine or something?
[21:55] <OerHeks> jarubyh, no need for the old way with ndiswrapper, bcm43 is supported
[21:55] <yeats> jarubyh: you might want to read the link from OerHeks first
[21:55] <stueng> L3top: after reboot resolv.conf was clear again ?
[21:55] <OerHeks> !b43 | jarubyh
[21:55] <KFP> eagle_eye: Thanks! I don't want to install a new app/feature to fix a simple GUI issue, though. So, I hope this gets fixed.
[21:56] <KFP> eagle_eye: ...Since this is a most basic GUI feature.
[21:56] <eagle_eye> :))
[21:56] <ComraDerpy> <3
[21:58] <OerHeks> jarubyh, i think you need is this part >>" sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer " and reboot after install.
[22:00] <L3top> stueng: I don't know what you have installed/setup... but something is clearly overwriting that for a reason it believes is right.
[22:03] <tjayh913> lesson learned: just won't bother trying to apply the cube effect to unity after completely messing up unity temporarily
[22:03] <negev> hi, how would i do:  ssh <host> sha1sum "A File's File"     i.e. a filename with spaces and single quotes. i can't find a way to escape this that works.
[22:03]  * tjayh913 will have to remember the command "unity --reset" for future
[22:03] <darrenlooby> I get "mount.nfs: Connection timed out" when attempting to mount a network folder - any hints?
[22:04] <yeats> negev: have you tried putting the full command in quotes?
[22:06]  * angel1986 is back.
[22:06] <tuxgeek> yeats: single or double quotes?
[22:06] <yeats> tuxgeek: well, the unescaped single quote (apostrophe in this context) indicates that it would need to be double quotes
[22:10] <ska> in 12.04, is there a PPA or repo that allows me to install a 2.6 kernel??
[22:10] <Jordan_U> ska: Why do you want to install an older kernel?
[22:10] <OerHeks> ska no. it will break your system.
[22:11] <fase> ciao
[22:11] <ska> OerHeks: I have a system I upgraded to 12.04. Im talking to you on it now.. has 2.6 kernel.
[22:11] <fase> !list
[22:11] <ska> 2.6.32-39-generic-pae
[22:12] <Jordan_U> ska: Why do you want to install an older kernel?
[22:12] <tuxgeek> ska: a system update will install the latest kernel
[22:12] <ska> Becuase my system is unstable....
[22:13] <tuxgeek> !who | ska
[22:13] <ska> Is it possible to install a 2.6 kernel, and if so, how?
[22:13] <yeats> ska: haven't you already said you're using one now?
[22:14] <tuxgeek> beats me...
[22:14] <ska> yeats: for a 32 bit system, different. THe other one is new install..
[22:15] <yeats> ska: your request is very unusual, and I don't think anyone who knows what they're doing is going to advise you to do what you're asking to do :-/
[22:16] <ska> yeats: I don't think so. The 2.6 kernels are known to be stable. the 3's are newer and not stable yet.
[22:16] <ska> I simply wnat to try a 2.6 kernel to see if the ysstem will stop crashing.
[22:17] <lauratika> does anyone knwos how to set up tunlr in 12.04
[22:17] <jarubyh> thanks, I think I've got it now
[22:17] <Jordan_U> ska: There is absolutely no signifigance to the change form 2.6.X to 3.X. Linus just decided one day to change the number, without any changes to release procedures or even anything particularly interesting in that particular release.
[22:18] <Jordan_U> ska: Why don't you start by describing what type of crashes you're having and when.
[22:18] <OerHeks> current kernel has a lot of power fixes too.
[22:19]  * angel1986 is away: Gone away for now
[22:19] <isidoros>  i have installed ubuntu on a ship and access the internet via satellite. i want the crew to be able to make calls from a standard phone to their families. any ideas how to achieve that?
[22:20] <xangua> ubottu: tell angel1986 about away
[22:20] <haylo> isidoros, gmail
[22:20] <Jordan_U> ska: To hear (read) it from Linus himself https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/7/21/455
[22:20] <isidoros> gmail what?
[22:20] <BlueChaos> hellow guys
[22:20] <BlueChaos> good morning all :<
[22:21] <haylo> isidoros, gmail gtalk has a good phone program. i dont know about phone apps. other then that and skype. just mentioning it
[22:21] <BlueChaos> pastie
[22:21] <BlueChaos> pastie.org
[22:22] <greywalk> hi. is it possible to drag and re-order windows on the taskbar (windows list) on LXDE?
[22:22] <BlueChaos> guys I have a problem I cannot remove http://pastie.org/4046935 from my pc
[22:22] <isidoros> well it is not so simple. i want somehow to connect a standard phone (rj11 plug) and make calls. the call will be transfered via satellite internet to land to the outside pstn...
[22:23] <BlueChaos> the proccess still on pid I kill the pid  too and the same
[22:23] <BlueChaos> nagios work on browser
[22:23] <BlueChaos> who can help me ?
[22:25] <BlueChaos> to remove this from my linux?
[22:25] <ska> Jordan_U: When I suspend the system with pm-suspend, the system will simply not wake, and panics.. No kernel.log events showing.
[22:25] <Jordan_U> greywalk: It doesn't appear to be. You might be able to find a good pannel replacement which does allow this though.
[22:25] <xangua> BlueChaos: because there is nothing to remove¿
[22:25] <greywalk> Jordan_U, oh, i see, thank you. will google for some other panel for lxde. thanks
[22:26] <BlueChaos> xangua
[22:26] <cookieesmonster> Hi!
[22:26] <xangua> BlueChaos: why are you logged as root¿
[22:26] <BlueChaos> look http://77.81.236.15/nagios3
[22:26] <isidoros>  i have installed ubuntu on a ship and access the internet via satellite. i want the crew to be able to make calls from a standard phone to their families. any ideas how to achieve that?
[22:26] <douglarret_> is there a utility I could use to see what is hogging all my drive space on my home dir?
[22:26] <BlueChaos> the software still runing on my linux
[22:26] <BlueChaos> why if allredy I delete nagios3
[22:27] <Jordan_U> greywalk: You're welcome. #lubuntu might be able to give some good advice also.
[22:27] <xangua> BlueChaos: because you installed from source¿
[22:27] <OerHeks> BlueChaos, stop naigos3 before doing changes.
[22:27] <BlueChaos> how to do that ?
[22:28] <douglarret_> where is the trash located on my 10.10 install?
[22:28] <tjayh913> How do I use gparted to remount my windows dual boot, I had unmounted it to change label?
[22:28] <tuxgeek> douglarret: du -h / | less
[22:28] <OerHeks> BlueChaos, try sudo service nagios3 stop
[22:29] <douglarret_> tuxgeek, thanks
[22:29] <BlueChaos> ok now I try to delete it ?
[22:29] <tuxgeek> np
[22:29] <GeekAdmin> Someone I introduced to ubuntu, swears up and down that they have a virus/spyware/or malware of some sorts because there homepage changed and they are noticing some small funny things. Personally I think its just a human error due to lack of computer experience, but are viruses/spyware/malware ever turn up in ubuntu at all?  I know rootkits can..but does spyware?
[22:30] <Jordan_U> tjayh913: You don't generally use gparted to mount filesystems. You should be able to simply click on the partition's icon in Nautilus (the file browser) to mount it, or use the mount command.
[22:30] <GeekAdmin> Also how likely is it to get a rootkit infection? I imagine its exteremly rare considering how long I've used linux/ubuntu and never had one
[22:31] <BlueChaos> look
[22:31] <BlueChaos> the website
[22:31] <BlueChaos> nagios still up
[22:31] <BlueChaos> to date
[22:31] <douglarret_> tuxgeek, all I get is a bunch of permission errors - any suggestions?
[22:31] <BlueChaos> and the services
[22:31] <FloodBot1> BlueChaos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:31] <BlueChaos> is down
[22:31] <tjayh913> Jordan_U, thank you, that worked
[22:31] <BlueChaos> bluechaos@LuxTeam:~$ sudo service nagios3 stop
[22:31] <BlueChaos> [sudo] password for bluechaos:
[22:31] <BlueChaos>  * Stopping nagios3 monitoring daemon nagios3
[22:31] <BlueChaos>                                                                          [ OK ]
[22:31] <FloodBot1> BlueChaos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:31] <Jordan_U> tjayh913: You're welcome.
[22:31] <tuxgeek> douglarret_: are you root?
[22:32] <LinTux> GNU Radio - Does anybody know why when I setup a module to output pulse audio, I get nothing. I was wondering is there anything extra needed to install to output to it?
[22:32] <tuxgeek> douglarret: you can also - sudo du -h / | less
[22:33] <BlueChaos> OerHeks, look http://pastie.org/4046990
[22:33] <BlueChaos> and website url is up
[22:33] <BlueChaos> is a freaking software this nagios3
[22:34] <OerHeks> BlueChaos, sure, website is running on your apache.
[22:34] <BlueChaos> I know that but if nagios3 software was deleted (unistalled) why database and php configs not ?
[22:35] <terminhell> use the purge flag
[22:35] <BlueChaos> becouse this software (nagios3) installed thouse configs
[22:35] <tuxgeek> douglarret_: maybe you should exclude /proc
[22:35] <BlueChaos> in apache /msql
[22:35] <BlueChaos> how can I remove them ?
[22:36] <sirriffsalot> What entire theme types that can be downloaded are usable in xfce?
[22:36] <sirriffsalot> Entire theme types meaning the type that covers appearance, windows, and icons
[22:36] <douglarret_> tuxgeek, is only in my home dir where something is using all my space - appreciate the help? but still no luck pinning down the waste of space
[22:36] <meat> hey guys, i have a little question. I'm setting up an alarm "clock" using a directory of mp3s which is played by mpg123, triggered by cron. works fine, but how do i turn it off?
[22:36] <BlueChaos> can u explain me OerHeks
[22:37] <meat> there's no terminal open or anything
[22:37] <douglarret_> tuxgeek, how can I tell what is using up all my space?
[22:37] <BlueChaos> how to remove those sh1ts
[22:37] <isidoros> plz any IDEAS!!!!!  i have installed ubuntu on a ship and access the internet via satellite. i want the crew to be able to make calls from a standard phone to their families. any ideas how to achieve that? !!!!
[22:37] <tuxgeek> douglarret_: du -h is the best tool
[22:37] <schultza> how do i upgrade to the latest thunderbird mozilla has released?
[22:38] <terminhell> meat: how about adding '&& sleep & killall mp3app' to your script?
[22:38] <tuxgeek> douglarret_ cd to home/douglarret and "du" there
[22:39] <terminhell> meat: * && sleep <desired play time> & killall mp3app
[22:39] <BlueChaos> sooomeoneeee help meeee please
[22:40] <isidoros> bluechaos: repeat problem
[22:40] <douglarret_> tuxgeek, k - thanks making some headway now? nothing jumps out tho = scrolling thru a billion lines now
[22:40] <BlueChaos> http://pastie.org/4046990
[22:40] <BlueChaos> I want to remove this nagios configs
[22:40] <terminhell> then rm them BlueChaos
[22:41] <BlueChaos> to don`t run on my linux becouse us cpu /ddr2
[22:41] <BlueChaos> I try
[22:41] <terminhell> did you try to sudo first?
[22:41] <BlueChaos> but nagios is up on http
[22:41] <meat> terminhell: that's perfect dude. means I have to be awake enough to open a terminal and type "killall mpg123" before my "alarm clock" stops annoying me.
[22:41]  * angel1986 is back.
[22:41] <BlueChaos> yes
[22:41] <tuxgeek> doularret_ make sure to use the "-h" argument
[22:41] <BlueChaos> look
[22:41] <meat> a little sketchy but hey, I like it :D
[22:41] <BlueChaos> http://pastie.org/4046990
[22:42] <meat> thanks, have a nice evening!
[22:42] <terminhell> np
[22:42] <BlueChaos> http://77.81.236.15/nagios3/
[22:42] <BlueChaos> look
[22:42] <BlueChaos> how can i remove them ?
[22:42] <terminhell> justa sec
[22:43] <tiox> Hi all.
[22:43] <terminhell> i need login creds...but what exactly are you trying to remove BlueChaos
[22:43] <tiox> I'm awake and more-than-ready to resolve some issues on my machine. First, the bit about the 3G modem.
[22:43] <BlueChaos> I don`t know how to connect to see what's my database tables names and users to remove db nagios3
[22:43] <douglarret_> how do I du -h and make it not go in to sub dirs?
[22:43] <foobArrr> where do I change with what program akregator opens ogg-links?
[22:43] <tiox> I wish ActionParsnip was here, becauese he gave me a command to use to resolve part of an issue with it.
[22:44] <isidoros> bluechaos: you have installed nagios from source i suppose?
[22:44] <BlueChaos> yes
[22:44] <BlueChaos> I'am was helpped by one friend from here to install it
[22:45] <BlueChaos> I don`t remember how I install it now 2 days ago ..
[22:45] <terminhell> is this a VPS its installed on, i assume
[22:45] <isidoros> bluechaos: you installed also nrpe and xinetd?
[22:46] <BlueChaos> i'am not so advanced in ubuntu I'am starter becouse that i'am asking a little help I don`t know what to say about u question !
[22:46] <jagginess> anyone knows of a decent audio mic (digital preferably) and not too expensive/under 100bucks ?
[22:46] <BlueChaos> if u want I can do u an id pass to check by u own u know better then I
[22:46] <terminhell> BlueChaos: wait, what exactly are you trying to do and why?
[22:46] <douglarret_> tuxgeek, how do I du -h and make it not go in to sub dirs?
[22:47] <isidoros> bluechaos: send your email i will send you installation guide to figure it out.
[22:47] <BlueChaos> tevirusez2006@yahoo.com
[22:48] <xangua> and here we go again....
[22:48] <BlueChaos> terminhell,
[22:49] <isidoros> IDEAS PLEASE!!!!!!! ANYONE!!!!! i have installed ubuntu on a ship and access the internet via satellite. i want the crew to be able to make calls from a standard phone to their families. any ideas how to achieve that? !!!!!!!!
 BlueChaos: wait, what exactly are you trying to do and why? (I try to remove complettly nagios from my linux)
[22:49] <xangua> !patience | isidoros
[22:49] <terminhell> isidoros: what does making satalite calls have to do with ubuntu?
[22:50] <isidoros> terminhell: i have to pass the traffic through satellite to record bandwidth. the call will be "converted" to voip before send.
[22:51] <isidoros> ubottu:ok
[22:51] <isidoros> great i'm talking to the bot now...
[22:51] <terminhell> isidoros: have you looked into Asterisk?
[22:52]  * angel1986 is away: Gone away for now
[22:52] <terminhell> !give isidoros asterisk
[22:52] <isidoros> is it asterisk for me?
[22:52] <mrownclo> you are all bots here
[22:53] <terminhell> asterisk.org
[22:53] <terminhell> i think its the solution your looking for
[22:53] <terminhell> how its used i have no idea, never used it before, but ive heard of it enough to know it works
[22:53] <isidoros> i will need also some kind of hardware to operate it right?
[22:53] <isidoros> i think need a pci card
[22:54] <douglarret_> I have a home directory that is using up 700 gigs - how do I sort thru the shit and find the culprit? my download dir is less than a gig - please help :)
[22:54] <terminhell> your going to probably need some sort of satalite transmitter involved with a moving ship that wont be near satalite towers...
[22:54] <jrib> douglarret_: baobab
[22:55] <kingnebex> hi guys
[22:55] <terminhell> hi
[22:55] <isidoros> douglarret: ls|grep culprit  is that you are looking for?
[22:55] <shahriyarguliyev> hi
[22:55] <shahriyarguliyev> Is there a Ubuntu Pro?
[22:55] <kingnebex> does any 1 know any cool racing games for ubuntu 11?
[22:55] <wylde_> tiox: curl http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/6/7/%23ubuntu.txt | grep ActionParsnip <-- that will download todays #ubuntu irc logs and grep them for everything said by or to ActionParsnip. Adjust the grep to narrow it further ;)
[22:55] <douglarret_> jrib, thanks
[22:56] <shahriyarguliyev> !ask >kingebex
[22:56] <shahriyarguliyev> !ask>kingebex
[22:56] <shahriyarguliyev> !ask> kingebex
[22:56] <tuxgeek> douglarret_ how did it go?
[22:56] <shahriyarguliyev> damnit
[22:56]  * angel1986 is back.
[22:57] <shahriyarguliyev> Is there an Ubuntu system administrator?
[22:57] <jrib> shahriyarguliyev: please just ask your support question
[22:57] <hangdeadman> Hi my computer died during an update in update manager on ubuntu 12.04 and now update manager freezes during switch zramswap from swap to compression, I am also unable to uncheck that update.
[22:57] <terminhell> just ask, everyone here is skilled in various fields
[22:57] <shahriyarguliyev> I must be sure whether im flooding or here really someone know about my questiom
[22:58] <shahriyarguliyev> anyhow
[22:58] <jrib> shahriyarguliyev: just ask your question on one line please.  You're already flooding.
[22:58] <tuxgeek> shahriyarguliyev: do you have a question or not?
[22:58] <shahriyarguliyev> I want to intall ubuntu permanently. edit: im not flooding.
[22:58] <jrib> shahriyarguliyev: that's not a question.
[22:59] <shahriyarguliyev> ik installing is not hard to do but in my case it's complicated
[22:59] <terminhell> -,- thats your "need a pro" question?
[22:59] <shahriyarguliyev> yes it is complicated
[22:59] <terminhell> ill bite....why is it complicated
[22:59] <jrib> shahriyarguliyev: please take the time to write your actual question ON ONE LINE
[23:00] <bobbyyu> My Xubuntu shares are invisible to all computers in my Windows network.
[23:00] <shahriyarguliyev> Once I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on Windows 7 through Wubi
[23:00] <Ugly_Duck> hey guys, i'm trying to install ubuntu server on a HP DL380 server, keeps freezing when detecting network hardware
[23:00] <sirriffsalot> What entire theme types that can be downloaded are usable in xfce?
[23:00] <sirriffsalot> Entire theme types meaning the type that covers appearance, windows, and icons
[23:00] <shahriyarguliyev> Since WIndows7 reads Wubi windows installer as an application
[23:00] <shahriyarguliyev> but not partition on my HDD
[23:01] <hangdeadman> Hi my computer died during an update in update manager on ubuntu 12.04 and now update manager freezes during switch zramswap from swap to compression, I am also unable to uncheck that update.
[23:01] <tuxgeek> shahriyarguliyev: wubi installs ubuntu on a loop mounted device
[23:01] <terminhell> So you want to install ubuntu for reals and not thru wubi...easy. burn the ISO to a cd/dvd or to flash drive.
[23:02] <OerHeks> sirriffsalot, try http://xfce-look.org/ ?
[23:02] <yeats> hangdeadman: can you try to update from the command line?  (open a terminal and do 'sudo apt-get update')
[23:03] <sirriffsalot> OerHeks: Yea, I've been there, but some of the themes only work for one of the three.. I'd like the "package" deal:P
[23:03] <M4rc3l> does anyone know how to fix lack of OS in grub after installing ubuntu with windows 7
[23:03] <Ugly_Duck> anyone have a clue on how i can get around this?
[23:03] <yeats> !fixgrub | M4rc3l
[23:03] <terminhell> M4rc3l: windows first, then linux
[23:03] <M4rc3l> thanks
[23:03] <douglarret_> I had a working mail client and now all my old emails are gone and new ones are downloaded from the server as unread and my sent folder and outbox are empty - where the fuk did all my email go?
[23:04] <reisio> M4rc3l: you used Wubi?
[23:04] <reisio> that uses Windows' own boot loader, IIRC
[23:04] <reisio> probably GRUB, too, but secondarily
[23:04] <M4rc3l> it was instaled from cd
[23:04] <hangdeadman> yeats: sudo apt-get update worked finr.
[23:04] <M4rc3l> not install file
[23:04] <hangdeadman> fine*
[23:04] <reisio> okay
[23:04] <reisio> ignore then :)
[23:04] <yeats> hangdeadman: now 'sudo apt-get upgrade'?
[23:05] <M4rc3l> thx nyway
[23:05] <terminhell> if you did linux first then windows, boot back into your ubuntu cd, and run grub install
[23:06] <hangdeadman> yeats: it just sits for hours doing nothing when sudo apt-get upgrade reaches this line: Preparing to replace zramswap-enabler 0.2.1-0~19~precise1 (using .../zramswap-enabler_0.2.1-0~21~precise1_all.deb) ...
[23:08] <douglarret_> ubuntu - nice! all my email data is gone? real classy, no wonder it is free.
[23:08] <shahriyarguliyev> in Make STartup Disk it says: "WHen starting from this disk, documents and settings  will be: 1) Stored into reserved extra place(up to 2.5 Gb); 2)Discarded on shutdown, unless you save themelsewhere.
[23:08] <shahriyarguliyev> SInce my current disk is C:, it will erase D: disk and accept it as C: disk. My data is kept under D: disk(700 Gb). I don't wanna take a risk.
[23:08] <shahriyarguliyev> what should I do?
[23:09] <reisio> douglarret_: yay
[23:09] <douglarret_> shahriyarguliyev, don't install ubuntu thats for sure
[23:09] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: Ubuntu will make you delete your email data, douglarret_ told me so
[23:09] <shahriyarguliyev> douglarret_: warum neine?
[23:10] <shahriyarguliyev> douglarret_: why not?
[23:11] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: do you have an idea about my question?
[23:11] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: missed it, what's your question?
[23:11] <douglarret_> shahriyarguliyev, I was just messing with you? but after using linux for almost 15 years all I can say is your data is NEVER safe!
[23:11] <binni> how can I turn down the brightness of a desktop monitor?
[23:11] <binni> through ubuntu
[23:11] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: in Make STartup Disk it says: "WHen starting from this disk, documents and settings  will be: 1) Stored into reserved extra place(up to 2.5 Gb); 2)Discarded on shutdown, unless you save themelsewhere.
[23:11] <shahriyarguliyev> SInce my current disk is C:, it will erase D: disk and accept it as C: disk. My data is kept under D: disk(700 Gb). I don't wanna take a risk.
[23:12] <terminhell> startup disk? why
[23:12] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: are you talking about the Ubuntu install image, or something else?
[23:12] <tuxgeek> stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --vm-bytes 128M --timeout 10s
[23:13] <tuxgeek> stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --vm-bytes 128M --timeout 10s
[23:13] <shahriyarguliyev> douglarret_: I started using linux after working as a MAC OSX system administrator. SInce it depends on linux kernel
[23:13] <Ugly_Duck> Hmm.. this sucks
[23:13] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: did u use ubuntu ever?
[23:13] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: sure
[23:14]  * tuxgeek is sorry about that...
[23:14] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: so u know about Make Startup Disk
[23:14] <tuxgeek> honest mistake!
[23:15] <douglarret_> shahriyarguliyev, what are you nuts? save your self the trouble and use a mac? you can always slam your hand in a car door for fun instead of using linux.
[23:15] <yeats> hangdeadman: hmm (had to step away for a bit)
[23:15] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: I am running Ubuntu as an application on WIndows 7 on C: disk
[23:15] <douglarret_> later
[23:15] <Ugly_Duck> i have been reading that the drivers on the ubuntu cd may not be compatible with my server
[23:15] <hangdeadman> yeats: it's all good, did you get to read my reply?
[23:15] <tuxgeek> !ot | douglarret_
[23:15] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: you're running Ubuntu from a Wubi install, to your C:
[23:15] <yeats> hangdeadman: you're not alone: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12004448
[23:16] <troydm> is it only me or after doing latest updates on ubuntu 12.04 my terminal window now has a white border?
[23:16] <shahriyarguliyev> douglarret_: I have no Mac OS at home, only at work. SO i have to do things on linux. the programs only work on Solaris, Linux doistros and Mac.
[23:16] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: exactly
[23:17] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: and now you want to accomplish what, exactly?
[23:18] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: in Make STartup Disk it says: "WHen starting from this disk, documents and settings  will be: 1) Stored into reserved extra place(up to 2.5 Gb); 2)Discarded on shutdown, unless you save themelsewhere.
[23:18] <shahriyarguliyev> SInce my current disk is C:, it will erase D: disk and accept it as C: disk. My data is kept under D: disk(700 Gb). I don't wanna take a risk.
[23:18] <Ugly_Duck> this is interesting, anyone installed ubuntu server on a HP DL380 server before?
[23:18] <terminhell> ughhh you dont need a startup disk
[23:18] <yeats> Ugly_Duck: yes (or similar)
[23:18] <terminhell> if you must, then use a flash drive
[23:18] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: I don't know other ways, startup disk is pretty easy
[23:19] <terminhell> OR grub....
[23:19] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: so you're running Wubi now and have not yet installed?
[23:19] <Ugly_Duck> yeats: your installation never hung on you when searching for network hardware etc?
[23:19] <yeats> Ugly_Duck: not that I recall... what does Alt-F4 show?
[23:20] <terminhell> remove the wubi install and just install ubuntu on your other partition. use computer manager to free up some space first, and install it into the free space
[23:20] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: Wubi does not give me full access to ubuntu, imagine it only has 30 GB HDD out of 800 GB, like an app on windows7
[23:20] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio:  so i want to give power to ubuntu since windows7 crashed but ubuntu still wors
[23:20] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: works*
[23:20] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: not an application, but it installs to a file inside your Windows file system, so it is limited to space available
[23:20] <Ugly_Duck> yeats: oh, i/o error, attemp to access beyound end of device
[23:20] <yeats> hmm - is it a CD?
[23:21] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: ah
[23:21] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: windows7 crashed, unable to open windows to remove wubi
[23:21] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: but Windows 7's file system/s still have files you care about?
[23:21] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: no biggy. wubi doesnt actually partition anything in a traditional sense.
[23:21] <Ugly_Duck> yeats: yeah, installing from cd
[23:22] <Ugly_Duck> so the cd drive is shot, nice
[23:22] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: so just install it onto your hdd, i dont see what your hangup is here?
[23:22] <Bower^> i'm pretty new to ubuntu so sorry if this is a dumb question. i've used apt-get to install pear then used pear to grab phpunit. i've added the path to pear to $PATH and it works. it doesn't work if i try "sudo phpunit" though. how could i resolve this?
[23:22] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: actuall, windows7 is working but it does not see keyboard and mouse. im stucked
[23:22] <yeats> Ugly_Duck: hmm - you might do well by googling that error
[23:22] <Bower^> sorry, i mean i've added the path to phpunit to $PATH
[23:22] <OY1R> Q: why does atd start up every time ubuntu starts and how can i stop if from starting ?
[23:23] <Ugly_Duck> yeats: will do
[23:23] <sirriffsalot> OerHeks: ?:P
[23:23] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: dude it's not easy as you say to risk my 700 Gb data
[23:23] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: what do u offer?
[23:23] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: then use gparted to resize it first...
[23:23] <hangdeadman> yeats: terminal froze after I used: find / -type f -name "zramswap*" -exec rm -f {} \;
[23:23] <tuxgeek> !daemon | OY1R
[23:23] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: what do you want ideally, for Windows to just work again?
[23:24] <HoNgOuRu> Im having problems with my soundcard it doesn't play any sound but pavucontrol shows activity
[23:24] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: damn it is not ppaarrttiioonn!
[23:24] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: Ok, I guess im missing what your trying to accomplish
[23:24] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: hate IDE enviroment, even i work on linux kernel at work. no need windos, wanna erase it
[23:25] <Ugly_Duck> yeats: running disk integraty at the moment, then will run memory text and then see how they go, while i research that error
[23:25] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: okay you want to get rid of Windows, what about the files?
[23:25] <shahriyarguliyev> but im not sure on which disk MAKE STARTUP DISK will install Ubuntu after restart, in fact it is located on C: and probably it will accept D: as a C: hh
[23:26] <terminhell> Bower^: sudo invokes root priveledges, so it could be invoking root paths
[23:26] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: my data is kept under D: disk on HDD, idc about C: files
[23:26] <OY1R> tuxgeek,  ?
[23:27] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: i can use D: disk right now
[23:27] <yeats> Ugly_Duck: yeah - sounds like a good idea
[23:27] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: okay, so you can just install Ubuntu normally from a booted CD image, to C:
[23:27] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: from usb to C:
[23:27] <tuxgeek> OY1R: hoped the bot could point you in the right direction
[23:27] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: sure
[23:28] <yeats> hangdeadman: hmm - can you open another terminal and do 'top' to see what the problem is?
[23:28] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: yep, just install into your C:
[23:28] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: When starting from THIS DISK*, documents and settings will be: 1) Stored into reserved extra place(up to 2.5 Gb); 2)Discarded on shutdown, unless you save themelsewhere.
[23:28] <tuxgeek> anyway, you wanna know what a daemon is?
[23:28] <OY1R> tuxgeek, i did not get any message from the bot
[23:28] <tuxgeek> I know
[23:28] <tuxgeek> my mistake maybe
[23:28] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: if you don't want them, discard them
[23:29] <OY1R> !deamon
[23:29] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: dont select import my data option, ignore that and move on
[23:29] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: THIS DISK is C: and it thinks C: is my main disk
[23:29] <OY1R> it does not know deamon
[23:29] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: do u have experience?
[23:29] <tuxgeek> daemon
[23:29] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: yes, if you want i can walk you through a manual partitioning that will garuntee success
[23:30] <OY1R> !daemon
[23:30] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: will it ask be t=on which disk I want to install OS?
[23:30] <OY1R> no not that either.
[23:30] <shahriyarguliyev> termnihell: is it safe than this way? if yes im ready
[23:31] <OY1R> every time i start the pc atd is running and using 99% cpu
[23:31] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: not exactly sure where you are in the installer
[23:31] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: at this point, if your so paranoid about it then yes, it will be the only option
[23:31] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: IIRC when it starts there are two options, the second being: Custom: do something else
[23:31] <docmur> So I think I made progress on my mail server, gmail keeps getting rejected, this is the log, does anyone know why this happening. http://pastebin.com/q07qm310
[23:31] <hangdeadman> yeats: it actually finished, now zramswapper should be completely gone now, correct?
[23:31] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: which lets you "manually" partition
[23:31] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: I have not installed any linux OS before, only SLackware it also was asking lots of things that i didnt know about, is it the same with ubuntu?
[23:32] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: it's probably similar, but not the same
[23:32] <terminhell> ~ish
[23:32] <yeats> hangdeadman: I think so, if you followed the full instructions
[23:32] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: man I don't know such things at that point it asks, can you retell main things ?
[23:32] <tuxgeek> OY1R : https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/21310
[23:32] <hangdeadman> yeats: thanks!]
[23:33] <terminhell> but slackware probably wanted to you to do an over complex partitioning scheme... Im just gonna set ya up with 1
[23:33] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: i want my D: disk be safe
[23:33] <terminhell> it WILL BE
[23:33] <shahriyarguliyev> ok go on
[23:33] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: if you start from the beginning and choose the second option, you'll be able to manually assign what disk areas are partitioned/formatted, and not
[23:33] <terminhell> ^^
[23:34] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: can you find me a tutorial video?
[23:34] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: ive also installed and currently running linux that is much more complex to install than ubuntu, so yes, ive got experience
[23:34] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: if it is understandable if i read and opt. but if you say it is up to me, then i need tutorial
[23:35] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: which distro ur using?
[23:35] <terminhell> too bad ubuntu doesnt ship with like teamviewer or something haha
[23:35] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: ArchLinux
[23:35] <shahriyarguliyev> teamviewer can run on wine
[23:35] <shahriyarguliyev> oh Arch is awesome heard about it
[23:35] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: are you in the installer now?
[23:36] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: you can ask for help at any time
[23:36] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: are you looking for tutosial for me? ^_^
[23:36] <terminhell> we are your tutorials
[23:36] <reisio> I was looking for screenshots of each part of the installer, but they don't appear to be anywhere
[23:36] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: yes i dont know whether to make a stratup disk or not :S
[23:36] <terminhell> i can do ubuntu's installer from memory, way easier than what i had to go thru haha
[23:37] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: here
[23:37] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MlKTWt0GDyE/T5mfyqJ9A1I/AAAAAAAAACo/WQQw4XiyKDQ/s1600/Ubuntu+installtion+step+3.jpg
[23:37] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: if i start installing i have only one comp here, i wont be able to ask. and the system will down :.
[23:37] <terminhell> >.< NO STARTUP DISK this isnt windows 95!
[23:37] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: see the second one, Something else
[23:37] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: if the network works during install, you can be on IRC during the process
[23:37] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: just do 'Try' first, then get on IRC, then run the installer
[23:38] <terminhell> yep, once you boot into TRY, then get your network to work, then just log back into here
[23:38] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: my network is 4G. not wired
[23:38] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: so?
[23:38] <terminhell> stop making excuses lol
[23:38] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: only wired cable can enable networking, ain;t?
[23:38] <terminhell> wow
[23:39] <terminhell> no
[23:39] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: no
[23:39] <tanka32> b nice lol
[23:39] <reisio> doesn't mean your wireless will work, but it might
[23:39] <terminhell> networkmanager supports wifi, ethernet, adsl, pppoe, mobile tethering...
[23:39] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: dude during installation only wired cable can enable networking, it is fact
[23:40] <terminhell> then your desktop doesnt have a wifi adapter??
[23:40] <mobius420> greetings #ubuntu
[23:40] <genii-around> terminhell: They stated already it is a 4G
[23:40] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: in that pic, there is one thing. erase disk. well my disk is none. wubi is an app on windows, it may erase my D:
[23:40] <terminhell> is it one of those Varizon 4g hotspot devices?
[23:40] <tuxgeek> broadband
[23:41] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: my desktop have wifi enabled.
[23:41] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: you need to be able to distinguish between c and d
[23:41] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: are they the same size?
[23:41] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: nah. C: is 100 Gb, D: 700 Gb
[23:41] <mobius420> I am trying to run a program and I am getting an error about "permission denied"  I ran the launcher from terminal to try and get a peek at the actual error
[23:41] <shahriyarguliyev> i dont need C:
[23:41] <terminhell> mobius420: sudo appname
[23:42] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: 4G is rocking, HD streaming is awesome
[23:42] <terminhell> mobius420: or alt+f2 gksudo appname
[23:42] <mobius420> it's a program called icall
[23:43] <mobius420> it's for making phone calls over the web
[23:43] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: if you get to this screen http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-in9V6L0wh5k/T5miG8_ZIhI/AAAAAAAAACw/s_cldFf1U1o/s1600/Ubuntu+12.04+installation+step+4.jpg
[23:43] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: it will be apparent which is C and which is D, by the 'Size' column value
[23:43] <terminhell> mobius420: ok...did you try what i said?
[23:43] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: if it will distinguish btw those, no problem.
[23:43] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: it'll show one as 100GB and one as 700GB
[23:43] <reisio> they'll probably also be in order
[23:44] <terminhell> brb food afk
[23:44] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: then free space over there is D:?
[23:44] <mobius420> terminhell,  doing now
[23:45] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: you'll be able to read and write D: with the NTFS driver, ntfs-3g
[23:45] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: can u find me a tutorial video of installation ?
[23:45] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: during install, if I understand you correctly, you'll want to make sure it is not checked for formatting, and not assigned any partition mount point
[23:45] <reisio> the installer will notify you that it will not be used
[23:45] <mobius420> terminhell,  the program is executed using a .sh file
[23:45] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: not without watching the entire thing myself :p
[23:45] <mobius420> when i did sudo apparently the syntax is wrong
[23:46] <shahriyarguliyev> ^_^
[23:46] <mobius420> i chmod 0777 the .sh launcer
[23:47] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: what will I be asked during installation that can damage my hard drive?
[23:47] <mobius420> i chmod 0777  the launcher file,  but I still get an error referencing  /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.15' not found (required by /home/shinobi/iCall/bin/iCall)
[23:47] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: u've gone?
[23:47] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: your only risk is tampering with D:
[23:47] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: if you ensure the partitioner is ignoring it, there is no other risk
[23:47] <etfb> I've installed a program (using configure/make/sudo make install) and it's in /usr/local/bin, and I can get to it in the terminal by typing just the name... but when I use the Dash and type it, it doesn't come up.
[23:48] <etfb> How do I fix that?  Is the Dash's $PATH different?
[23:48] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: im not good at partitioner, no experience :/
[23:48] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: it's point and click
[23:49] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: from the space where C: is you create one small partition equal to the amount of RAM you have, and one large one for the rest
[23:49] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: map them to swap and / respectively, with ext4 & format checked for /
[23:49] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: so I do choose, Erase DIsk. then what to do?
[23:49] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: leave D: (the 700GB one) alone
[23:50] <shahriyarguliyev> it's clear, but im not sure i will succeed
[23:50] <terminhell> and back
[23:50] <shahriyarguliyev> wb
[23:51] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: what is swaping?
[23:51] <terminhell> it will succeed. a swap partition and a root akak "/" partition as their respective mount points
[23:51] <wawowe3> fucking fudge
[23:52] <chu> Umm, sorry wawowe3?
[23:52] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: like virtual memory in Windows
[23:52] <terminhell> its times like this that i realize how much other os's hide from their end users
[23:52] <wawowe3> aaahhchoo!, schooseme
[23:53] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: instead of using a file, Unix systems usually use a dedicated partition
[23:53] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: it's clear
[23:53] <hangdeadman> after I type in ubuntu 12.04 terminal unity --replace, I get :WARN  2012-06-07 18:48:57 unity.iconloader IconLoader.cpp:438 Unable to load icon stock-person at size 24
[23:54] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: what else I will be asked?
[23:54] <_k2s_> Hi all! Is there a tool for Ubuntu 12.04 to debug website CSS for android devices? (particularly mobile phones) Resizing the window does not help :)
[23:54] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: that's about it, really
[23:54] <terminhell> be sure to check the box next to your new root partition
[23:54] <reisio> _k2s_: it'll be more or less the same as what Chromium gives you
[23:55] <terminhell> and optionally YES is a good idea for downloading updates as you install
[23:55] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: ok. I believe you and take a risk on my D: data, hope I'll succeed.
[23:55] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: thanks for wasting time for me))
[23:56] <terminhell> D: is safe
[23:56] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: i update but i don't know what it helps
[23:56] <_k2s_> reisio, thanx for the quick response but it doesnt help i have a android phone and in chromium i have a correct display but on the phone not..
[23:56] <wawowe3> i swear to fuck
[23:57] <hangdeadman> after I type in ubuntu 12.04 terminal unity --replace, I get :WARN  2012-06-07 18:48:57 unity.iconloader IconLoader.cpp:438 Unable to load icon stock-person at size 24
[23:57] <wawowe3> extreme
[23:57] <terminhell> ^^ someone wants attention
[23:57] <wawowe3> oh yea!!
[23:57] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: pppp
[23:57] <terminhell> ?
[23:57] <wawowe3> give me attention
[23:57] <wawowe3> everyone shut up
[23:57] <reisio> _k2s_: what is incorrect about it?
[23:57] <terminhell> !topic wawowe3
[23:58] <shahriyarguliyev> reisio: how long should it take installing process?
[23:58] <wawowe3> i forget the topic
[23:58] <ashish`> I have WUBI installation for Ubuntu.  How I can have incremental backup copy of this installation.  Also like to install the same copy on another computer if possible.
[23:58] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: without active updates going, 10-15 minutes
[23:58] <reisio> shahriyarguliyev: I don't know 30m?
[23:58] <reisio> terminhell probably knows better
[23:59] <shahriyarguliyev> thanks guys, I will return back after with full strenght! (if it succeed)