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yosahey02:14
yosahello02:14
* genii-around sips02:15
AlexZionhi everyone , I have some strange problem in amarok ....., a post-it is appeared on the context window of amarok ..., I don't even know how I did and how to remove ...., it's normal !?!02:18
AlexZionhttp://wstaw.org/m/2012/06/08/plasma-desktopSa2343.png02:18
Phiscribedoesnt look like part of amarok, some kinda other widget or plasma thing02:19
AlexZionyeah is a widget that normally goes on the desktop ...., probablly a kind of bug in amarok I guess ..., but I was just working and I don't know how I did it ....02:20
AlexZionhttp://wstaw.org/m/2012/06/08/plasma-desktopnZ2343.png02:21
AlexZionand seems quite impossible to remove .. :O02:22
Phiscribeis it knotes, which app is the note thing02:24
AlexZionahh ok , I got it ...., with right click , but just when I'm on similar artists tab http://wstaw.org/m/2012/06/08/plasma-desktopoo2343.png02:26
AlexZionit should be knode I guess ...., the default one on the kde desktop....02:27
AlexZionops sorry knotes ...02:28
Phiscribethere is a shotcut key to make a new note, meta N or something maybe (not in kubuntu right now), maybe amarok is sending key stroke, or something02:30
AlexZionanyway , closing amaron and reopening it , the notes desappears .....02:30
AlexZionwell , normally on the desk , I use the middle mouse button .... , but it doesn't works on amarok normally .....02:31
macoI upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10, and now plasma network manager thinks I lack a wireless card. "ifconfig" & "ip -a" see it though. Any idea how to convince plasma of the error of its ways?02:56
Phiscribedid you check the restricted drives to see if there is a driver for your wireless card, first thing to try,03:00
dbensonhello, does anyone know how to restart the kde panel?  Mine has disappeared/crashed...03:09
macoMy card had never required restricted drivers before...03:10
macoNope, my hardware is still 100% free drivers03:11
maco(I'd be very disappointed if Intel suddenly had proprietary drivers)03:11
genii-arounddbenson: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=126493703:12
dbensongenii-around: thanks!  I didn't know it was called plasma so my search wasn't productive...03:17
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Phiscribejust giving the lowest common dneomotator, before i look at zip files03:24
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macoHmm it seems wpa_supplicant is involved. I can't configure the interface from command line either, and syslog says wpa_supplixanr failed to initiate AP scan. I can use iwlist fine though, so driver and card should be ok03:44
kullixquestion: how does one add fluxbox to kubuntu manually?05:05
Phiscribewith a little bit of flux a little bit of box all mix with some weed and hard liquor05:07
kullixyes, i suspected05:09
Phiscribesudo apt-get install fluxbox    probably get you going, no idea how to go back05:10
almoxarifecan i get someone to share a virgin sources.list for kubuntu-12.04 please, pastebin is fine05:11
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noaXessmorning06:00
noaXesseach moring, at this time 0730-0800.. updaatedb.mlocate is running.. how can i plan that into the night06:01
noaXesseg at 040006:01
noaXessok.. found the entry in /etc/crontab: 25 6    * * *   root    test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily )06:03
noaXessbut that means, it starts at 06:25... hm.. why is it now running?.. daylight saving time?06:03
Phiscribedidnt end properly? (the cron task)06:13
noaXessPhiscribe: i think it will end normally... but should start at 625 not 72506:20
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mcmillan#channel07:11
jesse2_Hello.  first time using KDE in about 12 years.  So far, I love it! did have one question, though....07:15
jesse2_It seems when I place my cursor over certain apps (such as firefox... i think its all GTK apps), the mouse cursor changes.  does anyone know how to keep it consistent?07:16
jesse2_i had changed my cursor theme to whiteglass, but when i move the cursor over firefox, it reverts to the default oxygen white.07:16
ucenik04adad07:29
c0d3br3ak3rhey, i have installed compiz on my kubuntu and it has messed with my whole interface, it kind of look like unity now, but does not work good, can anyone help me resetting my interface on kubuntu with default kde.07:40
c0d3br3ak3rcan anyone help me please..07:43
c0d3br3ak3ranyone know how to reset kde plasma interface07:58
c0d3br3ak3ris there anything like unity --reset for kde ..??08:14
noaXesshiw to change encodings of files?.. have utf-8 encoded txt files, but they shoudl be iso-8859-108:20
noaXessok.. iconv can do that..08:23
lordievaderGood morning08:44
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nyuszika7hHi, I'm having an issue. plymouth is tainted on a clean Kubuntu 12.04 LTS installation (LVM, /home on separate logical volume), on boot I see some errors then instead of the boot logo, black screen. When I shut it down, I see lots of kernel errors instead of Plymouth splash screen then it powers off. Some errors: http://paste.debian.net/17336010:10
nyuszika7hI'm using the open source radeon ATI drivers, jockey-gtk seems to refuse to start so I'm stuck with that right now.10:10
nyuszika7hs/plymouth/plymouthd/10:11
lordievadernyuszika7h: Seems indeed that your ggfx driver is failing, instead of jockey-gtk try jockey-kde, perhaps with that you can install the non-free driver.10:22
nyuszika7hlordievader: Ok, I'll try it10:23
nyuszika7h(Note: Framebuffer and X11 look fine after boot, the issue is only on boot/shutdown)10:23
lordievadernyuszika7h: It seems that at the level of plymouth the driver fails, perhaps a non supported resolution is asked for or something.10:26
nyuszika7hYeah, VESA doesn't support 1366x768 here10:26
nyuszika7hThough I didn't have this problem with the open source driver on Ubuntu, only since I use Kubuntu10:27
lordievadernyuszika7h: Oh really, perhaps the kubuntu theme is corrupted? Let's see if I can find the name for that plymouth customizing utility.10:27
lordievadernyuszika7h: Ah this is the one: http://www.noobslab.com/2011/11/install-plymouth-manager-and-change.html10:29
nyuszika7hI'll try it when I'm at home, thanks.10:30
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lordievadernyuszika7h: No problem, hope you fix your problem.10:30
Free_BulletsI'm having trouble setting my keyboard's calculator button to launch a program. In custom shortcuts, it appears as "Launch (1)", but it doesn't work.10:59
lordievaderFree_Bullets: Could you try running "xev11:07
lordievaderFree_Bullets: "xev|grep keycode" *11:07
lordievaderFree_Bullets: Then when you press the key it should give you somekind of identifier, something like XF86Calculator or something11:08
Free_Bulletslordievader: keycode 14811:08
Free_BulletsI found this thread, but there's nothing in those files for me: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8960211:08
lordievaderFree_Bullets: What does it say between ()11:08
Free_Bulletslordievader: (keysym 0x1008ff1d, XF86Calculator)11:09
lordievaderFree_Bullets: Ok so it is being recognized, let me check if I can get it to work...11:10
Free_Bulletslordievader: oops, i found the files mentioned in that thread11:10
lordievaderFree_Bullets: Oh okay.11:11
lordievaderHope that solution works.11:11
Free_Bulletslordievader: solved. Really should have googled before asking.11:20
lordievaderFree_Bullets: It seems I have the same error/bug, you did find the launch (1) in those files?11:20
Free_Bulletslordievader: yep, and I replaced it with Calculator (XF86Calculator didn't work)11:21
lordievaderFree_Bullets: Ok good to know :)11:21
lordievaderFree_Bullets: Ok, it works here too :)11:27
nyuszika7hI love (yes, I mean hate) it how Muon just abandons all the package installations I marked earlier when I press full upgrade...11:28
lordievadernyuszika7h: I don't like Muon either, I just use apt-get or if I need a gui I use synaptic.11:29
nyuszika7hHmm yes, Synaptic, I'll install that.11:29
nyuszika7hI had it when I used Unity :P11:30
sky100hi11:32
lordievaderHey sky100 how are you?11:32
sky100i tried to burn movies using k3b .. but its been failing miserabley11:32
sky100hey lordievader11:33
sky100im fine , ty how bat u11:33
lordievaderI'm doing fine11:33
sky100ok11:33
sky100do u use k3b as burning tool lordievader ?11:33
sky100im really fighting with ..11:34
lordievadersky100: I rarely burn things, but I use it to rip cd's.11:34
sky100i tried burning some movies on a DVD-R , but it spoilt some good mo of discs11:34
sky100no*11:35
sky100really im ata loss..11:35
sky100at a11:35
nyuszika7hlordievader: I'm unable to install the proprietary drivers, it says to check /var/log/jockey.log11:35
lordievadersky100: What do you mean? Did you burn it as a avi file or something?11:35
lordievadernyuszika7h: What does the log file say?11:35
nyuszika7hLet me pastebin it11:35
sky100yep .avi file11:36
sky100all movies were .avi11:36
lordievadersky100: Is there also a .avi file on the disc?11:36
sky100DVD-R is compltely new11:36
sky100completely*11:36
sky100no files were written on it11:36
lordievadersky100: Yes but on a burned one.11:37
sky100just selected 4 movies , dragged them on the lower pane of k3b.. & set speed at 4x & clicked BURN11:37
nyuszika7hHow can I remove that Mozilla Firefox Browser Installer? I installed Firefox Aurora's daily version from a PPA.11:37
sky100it came out as a fatal error11:38
sky100spoiling the DVD-R11:38
lordievadersky100: At what speed are you burning?11:39
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lordievadernyuszika7h: I believe the package was called firefox-installer, but I might be wrong.11:39
sky100lordievader,  4x11:39
nyuszika7hIt was kubuntu-firefox-installer, thanks!11:39
lordievadersky100: Is that the lowest speed?11:40
sky100cant really figure out if in the burning option i see under file system its selected  as  Linux /Unix + Windows11:40
sky100yes lowest speed11:40
sky100do I need to change the file system ?11:40
nyuszika7hlordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1030240/ /var/log/jockey.log11:40
lordievadersky100: I'm not sure, like I said, I rarely burn things.11:40
sky100ok11:41
lordievadernyuszika7h: You could try to install it manually: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide11:42
nyuszika7hSynaptic says fglrx-updates is installed, but Jockey said it failed11:45
nyuszika7hfglrx-amdcccle-updates etc. is also installed11:45
lordievadernyuszika7h: It has failed. Before installing the driver again, manually or through jockey I would remove all the fglrx packages.11:47
nyuszika7hlordievader: I installed fglrx and fglrx-amdcccle from Synaptic, but kexec doesn't work...11:52
nyuszika7hsudo kexec -l /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-23-generic --append='BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.2.0-23-generic root=/dev/mapper/vg00-root ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7' --initrd=/boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-23-generic11:52
nyuszika7hOh, I need to -e it11:53
nyuszika7hkexec worked now11:55
nyuszika7hfglrx installed, Plymouth is still missin11:55
nyuszika7hg11:55
nyuszika7h(logo)11:55
nyuszika7hThis annoys me a bit...11:55
nyuszika7hSeems there is no framebuffer driver loaded at all11:55
nyuszika7hlordievader: ^^11:55
nyuszika7h/proc/fb is empty11:55
nyuszika7hlordievader: sudo plymouth show-splash # <-- nothing12:08
BluesKajHi all12:13
sky100if any one help me out with this k3b tool's issue12:14
sky100after files being burnt successfully .. its just not being detected by the system12:14
BluesKajhow are you burning the movies..they have to be converted to dvd format to play in a dvde player12:21
BluesKajfor play on a pc just use dragon player or vlc , no need to burn them to a dvd and try to play on the cdrom12:22
BluesKajsky100,^12:23
sky100hi BluesKaj .. sorry i was afk12:23
BluesKajread above12:24
sky100yep read.. but , one of my friends wanted me to burn some movies for him & i wanted to use k3b for that12:25
BluesKajsky100, so is it his pc that doesn't recognize the dvd?12:26
sky100nah .12:26
sky100its on my pc12:26
sky100after k3b showed that successfully burnt ...12:26
BluesKajdoes your pc recognize other dvds on linux ?12:27
sky100& ejected the DVD-R , i simply reinserted the the same was expecting that the DISC info would be popping up12:27
sky100ok , BluesKaj  .. let me insert a DVD-R & check12:28
sky100just a min12:28
BluesKajsky100, other dvds wirh data , not blank one , k3b obviously reognizes those12:29
sky100ok12:29
sky100yep BluesKaj  , i just tried with a DVd-R having 5 movies .. immediately  DVD-R was recognised in my pc  on linux12:30
sky100at the right side of the pc screen.. msg popped up12:31
BluesKajwas that dvd burned wih k3b?12:32
sky100nah , using cdburnerxp12:32
sky100long time back12:32
BluesKajyou're not burning the fiolder but the actual avi file inside , right , I have to ask ?12:34
sky100yes12:35
sky100.avi file only12:35
sky100dragging them to the lower panel of k3b12:35
BluesKajdo you have libdvdcss2 installed ?12:35
sky100or adding them from the directories12:35
sky100not sure abt that , BluesKaj12:36
BluesKajsky100, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs12:38
BluesKajread that tutorial and follow the instructions closely12:39
sky100ok ty , BluesKaj12:39
sky100yep , read BluesKaj12:44
sky100so might want to install libdvdcss12:45
sky100i would be immensely happy if after burning with k3b , linux on my pc would detect 'em12:46
BluesKajlibdvdcss212:46
BluesKajfollow the install by terminal commands there , they work12:47
sky100im gonna paste sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 in terminal12:50
sky100is that ok ? BluesKaj12:50
BluesKajjust follow the instructions sky10012:50
sky100ok12:51
BluesKajsudo apt-get install libdvdread4 , then , sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh12:51
sky100ok12:52
sky100yeah12:52
sky100gonna do it12:52
BluesKajlibdvdcss2 will install , then reboot12:52
sky100Setting up libdvdcss2 (1.2.12-0.0medibuntu1) ..Processing triggers for libc-bin . << thats the msg12:54
sky100ok12:54
sky100gonna reboot now12:55
sky100ldconfig deferred processing now taking place < < last line in the terminal after executing the commands12:55
sky100now im gonna reboot12:55
BluesKajno!12:56
sky100oh ok12:56
BluesKajhit enter12:56
BluesKajin the terminal12:56
sky100sky@sky-desktop:~$  << this comes up ig\f i hit ENTER12:57
BluesKajnever quit a terminal until it's back to the prompt ...it's still installing the app12:57
sky100if I *12:57
BluesKajthen wait12:57
sky100ok12:57
sky100im waiting but no further msg in terminal12:57
BluesKajso you're back at the prompt ...then reboot ..the prompt is  sky@sky-desktop:~$12:58
BluesKajok12:59
sky100yes im back at the prompt12:59
BluesKajreboot12:59
sky100ok13:00
sky100brb13:00
paolociao13:00
paolo!list13:01
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sky100rebooted13:04
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BluesKajsky100, also make sure you have ffmpeg installed13:05
sky100ok13:06
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sky100sudo apt-get ffmpeg ?13:06
BluesKajsudo apt-get install ffmpeg13:07
sky100oh yeah13:07
sky100ok13:07
sky100installed ffmpeg13:09
BluesKajsky100, do the avi files play directly in a player like dragon player or vlc ?13:09
sky100back at the prompt13:09
sky100yes13:09
sky100they play comfortably13:09
sky100so reboot agian ? BluesKaj13:09
sky100again*13:09
sky100gonna reboot , back at prompt13:10
BluesKajrecommend you buy some cdrws and dvdrws for testing13:10
sky100yea13:10
BluesKajno need to rebooot13:10
sky100i had some 4-5 DVD-Rs , some were wasted ....13:10
BluesKajtry playing those dvds again13:11
sky100ok13:11
sky100ok13:11
sky100no BluesKaj  , its not being recognised13:13
sky100not showing up13:13
sky100:(13:13
BluesKajdoes it show up in dolphin places ? \13:14
sky100no13:14
sky100thats the issue BluesKaj13:15
BluesKajunlock panels in dolphin places13:15
sky100let me c13:16
BluesKajno notification popup from the plasma panel ?13:16
sky100no13:16
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sky100unlock panels ?13:17
sky100sorry didnt get that13:17
u19809hi all, i have an ux31 and run the 3.4.1 kernel (to be sure all patches have been applied) but am unable to connect to any bluetooth device.  I see an hci and it seems to be operational but detecting other devices, no that does not happen.  Sure could use some help !13:18
BluesKajright click in the places area in dolphin , unlock panels , sky10013:19
keresztesHelló! Van itt valaki?!13:21
sky100still no work BluesKaj13:33
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eagles051387hey all14:17
eagles051387hey ikonia14:18
lordievaderHey eagles051387 how are you?14:18
sky100hello eagles05138714:18
eagles051387hey lordievader I'm busy14:20
lordievadereagles051387: Busy with what, if I may ask?14:21
eagles051387lordievader: client project14:22
lordievadereagles051387: I see, good luck with that!14:23
eagles051387thanks14:24
BluesKajjust tried bashburn ... very cool cli burn app14:25
OrmieHello! I need help, this instant.14:28
BluesKajOrmie, the instant passed , sorry14:29
OrmieBluesKaj, Kubuntu is not stable.14:29
BluesKaj!ask | Ormie14:29
ubottuOrmie: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:29
OrmieUbottu is here? That is my worst nightmare14:29
BluesKajubottu, is bot . it's meant to help14:30
ubottuBluesKaj: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:30
genii-aroundJust don't flood and you'll be fine14:30
lordievaderOrmie: What is your problem?14:30
OrmieI can't download flash player14:30
OrmieI get some kind of python error14:31
Ormieerror: [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer14:31
BluesKajOrmie, install kubuntu-restricted-extras14:31
OrmieI can't pastebin the problem, I still have to install firefox.14:31
lordievaderOrmie: Run from a terminal: sudo apt-get install firefox flashplugin-installer14:32
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Ormiethanks.14:34
lordievaderOrmie: Firefox and flash is installed?14:35
Ormielordievader, Flash some how already installed. But when I start my computer after updating it says that flash is not installed and it's installing.14:35
Ormielordievader, I've done installing firefox. I've just take out the built-in browser.14:39
OrmieIs firefox now the default browser?14:39
BluesKajlike I said earlier , best bet is to install kubuntu-restricted-extras , that'll also take care of any dependencies and plugins required , Ormie14:40
OrmieBluesKaj, How do I install that?14:40
BluesKajsudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras in the terminal , Ormie14:41
lordievaderOh sorry BluesKaj, hadn't seen your message, it is indeed a good idea.14:41
Ormieok14:42
lordievaderOrmie: To set firefox as your default browser go to System Settings -> Default Applications -> Web Browser14:42
Ormieok14:42
Ormiethe buttons in xchat seems to be smaller in kde.14:45
OrmieContentTooShortError: retrieval incomplete: got only 9728000 out of 14131146 bytes14:45
Ormiewhat to do?14:45
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lordievaderOrmie: Where did that error come from?14:46
Ormielordievadar, It automatically downloads flash again while doing BluesKaj technique.14:47
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lordievaderOrmie: Try an "sudo apt-get update" and then try BluesKaj technique again.14:48
BluesKajthen sudo apt-get-upghrade , Ormie , also run sudo dpkg --configure -a , you might have some uninstalled dependencies that need finishing14:50
Ormielordievader, http://pastebin.com/aePA0rha14:50
BluesKajoops , sudo spt-get upgrade14:50
OrmieBluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/aePA0rha14:50
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* BluesKaj has the phat phinger syndrome today14:51
OrmieBluesKaj, update or upgrade?14:52
BluesKajOrmie, both14:52
BluesKajupdate first14:52
BluesKajupdating without upgrading won't install anyupgrades to your system , it only resets your sources to the latest upgradeable packages installed on your system , you still must upgrade to get them14:54
Phiscribeupdate gets you the list of whats new, upgrade installs based on that list14:55
Ormieis there any option on apt-get to reinstall?14:56
BluesKajOrmie, did you run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras ?14:57
Ormieyes.14:57
BluesKajok14:57
Ormienow, i want to re-install it14:57
BluesKajnow run , sudo dpkg --configure -a14:58
Ormiedone14:58
BluesKajok, now run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras , again14:59
abeI'm interested in trying kde 4.9.  Is there a ppa that I can put in my sources.list?14:59
OrmieBluesKaj, it already exist.14:59
OrmieI want to re-install it14:59
Ormiehow?14:59
BluesKajok , sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-restricted-extras15:00
Ormieok15:00
OrmieBluesKaj, Done, It took really short time.15:01
BluesKajtry Firefox on a flash heavy site like youtube15:02
Ormieok15:02
OrmieBluesKaj, Firefox told me to install plugin, firefox didn't find it.15:03
BluesKajdid you close Firefox then reopen it15:04
phoenix_firebrdno sound after uninstalling  veromix15:04
BluesKajOrmie, close FF then relaunch it15:04
OrmieBluesKaj, Same result.15:05
BluesKajok reboot15:05
Phiscribeno sound from browser or no sound system wide?15:05
OrmieBluesKaj, I reboot?15:05
BluesKajOrmie, yes15:05
phoenix_firebrdPhiscribe: system wide15:05
phoenix_firebrdPhiscribe: purged and reinstalled pulseaudio, no use15:06
Ormieok, bye15:06
Phiscribetry to make alsa work15:06
phoenix_firebrdPhiscribe: also purged and reinstalled alsa-base15:06
Phiscribeuse a alsa mixer and see if volume is zero someplace15:06
phoenix_firebrdPhiscribe: tried alsa force reload15:06
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, pavucontrol works here but veromix doesn't ..don't ask me why15:06
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: i tried that too, no use15:07
Phiscribetry alsamixer from command line15:07
BluesKajforce-reload doesn't always work15:07
phoenix_firebrdPhiscribe: tried that too15:07
Phiscribeset it on fire, maybe it will arise from the ashes15:07
Phiscribeah im being too flip, sound not working is annoying15:08
phoenix_firebrdPhiscribe: he he he15:08
OrmieWut?!15:08
OrmieBluesKaj is gone.15:09
phoenix_firebrdOrmie: any problem?15:09
lordievaderOrmie: He'll probably be back in a bit.15:10
Ormieok15:10
Ormie...15:10
u19809hi all, i have an ux31 and run the 3.4.1 kernel (to be sure all patches have been applied) but am unable to connect to any bluetooth device. I see an hci and it seems to be operational but detecting other devices, no that does not happen. Sure could use some help !15:10
phoenix_firebrdPhiscribe: the pulseaudio meter is working in sync wit the music, but no output in speakers15:11
Ormielordievader, Plugin Finder in firefox also failed to install.15:12
Phiscribedo headphones work?15:12
phoenix_firebrdPhiscribe: right now i am using headphones15:12
Phiscribelook at alsamixer again, see if anthing is muted or zero15:12
phoenix_firebrdPhiscribe: shall i paste the image ?15:13
Phiscribealso most cards have a headphone cut off, they turn off speakers if headphone is plugged in, sometimes it gets stuck15:13
Phiscribescroll left and right15:13
JMichael|workoh kubuntu netbook interface, why dost thou crash SO much??15:14
PhiscribeJMichael|work a good start for a Haiku15:15
lordievaderOrmie: You ran a apt-get update & upgrade right?15:15
JMichael|workPhiscribe: is haiku what you would recommend?15:16
Ormielordievader, yes15:16
lordievaderOrmie: Have you tried installing flashplayer-installer again after that?15:17
Ormielordievader, no, However now, I installed gnash SWF plugin now it works. thanks for help. :)15:17
PhiscribeJMichael|work to fix your problem, not realy as it is a type of japanese poetry, for your problem find where it is occuring, is it a bad network driver, hardware, other15:18
lordievaderOrmie: Ok, good to hear :)15:18
Phiscribei was just saying that network errors are a common theme15:18
abecan someone please answer my question?15:19
JMichael|workPhiscribe: i don't think i was experiencing any network issues. the netbook UI was just constantly crashing... also, it became much slower after the upgrade to KDE SC 4.8.315:20
JMichael|workPhiscribe: i actually thought you were referring to Haiku OS15:20
Phiscribeah sorry, well the ui must be writing a log someplace, grep around in var15:21
OrmieHonestly I have 1 more problem.15:21
OrmieI want the minimize button back.15:22
abeI'm interested in trying kde 4.9.  Is there a ppa that I can put in my sources.list?15:22
lordievaderOrmie: What do you mean? Can you show a screenshot?15:23
JMichael|workPhiscribe: i am installing lubuntu, instead, as i have seen other reports of the netbook UI being crashy for some people... however, i should have spent more time looking at error logs15:24
Phiscribeplasma desktop is sexy, but quirky at times15:25
Ormielordievader, http://imgur.com/HrCxR15:25
lordievaderOrmie: Does every window have that or just xchat?15:27
Ormielordievader, every window15:28
Ormie-_-"15:30
lordievaderOrmie: That is very strange, have you installed some kind of theme?15:30
Ormielordievader, this is the original theme.15:32
Ormiemysteries creeps me alot15:32
lordievaderOrmie: Ok maybe I know the fix, go to System Settings -> Window Decoration -> Configure Buttons15:33
lordievaderOrmie: Is there custom titlebar positions checked?15:34
Ormiehold on15:34
lordievaderOrmie: It shouldn't be btw.15:34
Ormielordievader, there is only window behavior.15:35
Ormielordievader, Some how. I am on a netbook. and I switched the mode to desktop because netbook edition looks messy.15:35
genii-aroundI wonder if it's gtk apps or all apps without his minimize button15:35
lordievaderOrmie: Oh sorry its under Workspace Appearance15:36
Ormielordievader, strangely it's checked.15:37
phoenix_firebrdPhiscribe: problem solved15:38
lordievaderOrmie: Uncheck that, and I am not sure how it should respond, maybe you need to logout and back in.15:38
Ormieok15:38
genii-aroundOrmie: Does your Workspace Appearance window have a minimize button?15:39
Ormielordievader, It's back! The minimize button is back right away! thanks again :D. I still think kubuntu needs some work.15:39
* genii-around sips his coffee and thinks about qtcurve15:40
tejfolhello, how can I change the default mouse cursor in 12.04?15:40
lordievaderOrmie: Software development is never finished :P, but great that it is back.15:40
Ormiebye everyone.15:41
phoenix_firebrdPhiscribe: sound output channel was set to digital, switched to analog, solved15:41
BluesKajgenii-around, I installed qtcurve ...seems ok15:50
genii-aroundBluesKaj: It helps to unify themes from gtk apps15:51
BluesKajyeah , I saw that in the install stream15:51
suttiwitI still have problem with installing flash :(15:53
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genii-aroundOrmie: Can you pastebin the errors you are getting?15:58
Ormiegenii-around, I already closed it, though :(15:59
Ormiegenii-around, I will logout and it will come back15:59
genii-aroundOrmie: Output from sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer16:00
genii-aroundBah16:00
* genii-around makes more coffee16:00
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Ormiegenii-around, hold on.16:01
* genii-around holds on for dear life!16:02
Ormiegenii-around, http://pastebin.com/TpYsQRaM16:02
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BluesKaji usually download the flashplugin from adobe extract it and add the libflashplayer.so file to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins16:05
genii-aroundOrmie: To try: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*    && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install  flashplugin-installer16:05
OrmieBluesKaj, Where to download?16:05
genii-aroundOrmie: If errors, pastebin again16:05
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Ormiegenii-around, rm: cannot remove `/var/cache/apt/archives/partial': Is a directory16:06
genii-aroundOrmie: Thats fine16:07
Ormie?16:07
OrmieIt doesn't continue16:07
genii-aroundOrmie: Just put the second part then.eg:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install  flashplugin-installer16:07
Ormiegenii-around, Right now, I can play flash thanks to gnash swf plugin. But the dialog keeps warning me to install flash. I want this to end.16:09
Ormieflashplugin-installer is already the newest version.16:09
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Ormie...16:11
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Ormiegenii-around, u there?16:12
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genii-aroundOrmie: Yes, just had to talk to my boss a moment, at work here.16:16
Ormie...16:16
genii-aroundOrmie:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall  flashplugin-installer16:17
Ormiegenii-around, it worked nicely! thanks :D16:19
NoiseCounsellorHi everyone. I recently had my hard drives disconnected, that is, power cut of, while running. The partitions fsck'ed fine, I had to re-install grub and boot to the login screen, but I cannot log in to plasma any more. It showed two errors, one I fixed by "apt-get install --reinstall dbus", the other reads "call to lnusertemp failed (tmp directories full?) Check your installation." How might I be able to fix this?16:20
sky100new project burnt on a DVD-R but notifier doesn't pops up16:22
sky100pls help16:23
sky100i used k3b16:23
sky100but other DVD-R are being shown as mounted after inserting the disk16:24
genii-aroundDid you close the burn session?16:25
sky100yep16:26
sky100everything was fine16:27
sky100genii-around,16:27
sky100tried with several DVD-Rs16:27
sky100discs are read in other OS16:28
sky100like in XP16:28
sky100dunno waht went wrong with notifier16:29
genii-aroundsky100: What kind of project did you choose? ( Data, Continue Multisession,Audio, Mixed-Mode,Video CD, Video DVD, eMovix, etc )16:31
genii-aroundHm16:35
sky100k3b burns dont popup in notifier after burning in kubuntu16:36
sky100k3b burns dont popup in notifier after burning  in kubuntu16:36
sky100k3b burns dont popup in notifier after burning16:36
sky100oops16:37
sky100sorry16:37
genii-aroundsky100: What kind of project did you choose? ( Data, Continue Multisession,Audio, Mixed-Mode,Video CD, Video DVD, eMovix, etc )16:38
NoiseCounsellorÒk, simpler question: What is "lnusertemp"?16:39
sky100i was burning movies , all of .avi format , slected data , genii-around16:40
sky100selected*16:40
genii-aroundsky100: If you are in K3B, and put that DVD-R in, what does Device..Media Info from the K3B menu say?16:43
BluesKajsky100, you should be choosing "more actions">New Video DVD Project , not selected data16:44
sky100blank DVD-R it says in menu16:45
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genii-aroundsky100: Perhaps you made some project, saved the project, but did not actually burn the contents of the project to the dvd16:48
sky100is it ? but it showed as burning , closing disc after burning & finally popped out the disc16:49
sky100hope k3b burnt discs are screwing something in notifier16:50
genii-aroundNoiseCounsellor: From what I can determine, it is a kde utility which makes directories and files for temporary use in ~.kde/  , /var/tmp , and /tmp16:51
BluesKajsky , you said you were burning the avi files as selected data , is this correct ?16:52
sky100right16:52
sky100they are just pc data16:52
sky100not any converted videos16:52
sky100downloaded movies16:53
BluesKajyoustill have to burn them as a "New Video DVD Project"16:54
NoiseCounsellorgenii-around: That's what I thought, too. But I don't quite get why it should prevent X and plasma from starting. I added a new entry for tmpfs in /etc/fstab now for lack of clever ideas. Will reboot and see how it goes.16:54
sky100its all the same i think BluesKaj16:56
mozzyskydude16:56
sky100HEY MOZZY16:56
sky100oops16:56
sky100sorry caps16:56
FloodBotK1sky100: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:56
mozzynp16:56
sky100BluesKaj, : i treied with both options16:57
sky100tried*16:57
sky100New project & new Video project16:57
sky100end result is all the same16:57
sky100this was a weird behaviour by notifier16:58
sky100after burning sucessfully in k3b , notifier just did not pop it16:59
mozzywhats strange is the discs burn fine16:59
giuseppe_Hi!16:59
giuseppe_I've recently installed kubuntu...16:59
mozzyand notifier is able to detect and give mounting options on discs your burnt in other OS's and kubuntu 11.1017:00
sky100yep17:00
giuseppe_I have been using kde since 4.017:00
sky100even in 12.04 other discs are being popped by notifier17:00
mozzyya, so its not the notifier or device settings17:01
sky100which are not just burnt using k3b17:01
giuseppe_I thought that the version 4.8 was good enough to be used how first computer17:01
mozzyit works17:01
giuseppe_but actually I got a lot of problem17:01
giuseppe_for istance, kwin continues chashing very often17:02
giuseppe_My computer stucks and I can figure out why17:03
sky100dunno man what went wrong in notifier or somewher else17:04
sky100everything went off peacefully ..17:04
mozzythink it may be the way the discs are closing..17:04
mozzyreally odd17:04
sky100landing me in big zero17:04
sky100yep mozz17:04
mozzytry different brand media?17:05
mozzytru 6x or 8x instead too17:05
mozzytry*17:05
sky1001st tried with SONY (4 discs) & then writex17:05
mozzyinstead of 4x17:05
mozzyok17:06
sky100u mean higher speed ?17:06
mozzyim out of ideas17:06
sky100ok17:06
mozzyyes17:06
sky100me as well17:06
sky100ok17:06
sky100weird gesture17:07
sky100never ever thought that same programme might act in a diff way altogether17:07
mozzyits Basero too isnt it17:08
sky100having same settings17:08
mozzyBrasero*17:08
sky100yep17:08
sky100wated some discs on it as well17:08
sky100wasted*17:08
mozzydo you have any kubuntu updates pending?17:08
sky100nah17:08
mozzyok17:08
sky100had .. but updated in afternoon b4 disc was burnt17:09
mozzyhow many updates17:09
genii-aroundHad you rebooted before using k3b?17:09
mozzyyes17:09
mozzywas just getting to that17:09
sky100ummm , NO17:10
mozzyhave you rebooted after updates sky17:10
genii-aroundHm17:10
sky100oh , yea17:10
mozzyok17:10
sky100i rebotted several times17:10
sky100rebooted17:10
sky100as i installed libdvdcss217:11
sky100& ffmpeg17:11
sky100https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs17:11
sky100^^^^17:11
sky100for libdvdcss217:11
mozzyheh sky17:19
mozzyyoure not playing encrypted dvds...your not even trying to play video dvds17:20
mozzyjust pc data video files sitting on the disc in a directory like it would be on any other media..pc data17:20
mozzylibdvdcss fix doesnty even pertain to your issue17:21
mozzydoesnt*17:21
mozzyffmpeg is for conversion17:24
mozzytheres no conversion taking place17:24
sky100ok17:24
sky100oh ic17:24
mozzyya17:24
mozzyjust a straight burn avi, mkv to disc17:24
mozzyas backups17:25
mozzy;)17:25
mozzybbiab17:27
sky100ok17:27
BarkingFishEvening guys. Can somoene please explain pinning something in Kubuntu, so that it doesn't download when I update my system please?17:33
BarkingFish*someone17:33
bazhang!pinning | BarkingFish17:34
ubottuBarkingFish: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto17:34
BarkingFishI asked in #ubuntu last night - I don't want pulseaudio on my system, but everytime I run major updates, it comes back.  All I want to do is block it from downloading, permanently, so it never - ever - comes back.17:34
BarkingFishbazhang: I should mention I'm not running a GUI at the moment, I'm text only, and that page doesn't format properly in lynx.17:35
genii-aroundtry links2 -g17:35
BarkingFishok, i'll give it a shot.17:36
BarkingFishgenii-around: that works, but it doesn't look like it does what I want it to, unfortunately17:37
BarkingFishI want to keep pulseaudio off my system, pinning looks like it just keeps an old version on the machine so it doesn't update - my intention is to stop it downloading altogether17:38
BarkingFishsomeone suggested to me that maybe something I use recommends pulseaudio, in which case, whatever it is, I'm willing to remove that too.17:39
genii-aroundBarkingFish: Besides making a particular version stick and not upgrade, pinning can be used to prevent programs from being installed at all17:41
BarkingFish0.0  Right. Back to the page, I gotta see how to do that :)17:41
BarkingFishis that using the dpkg --set-selections?17:42
yoshi_huhu17:45
BarkingFishkuku yoshi_ :)17:45
lordievaderGood evening17:47
genii-aroundBarkingFish: No. Just use -10 for the pin priority number17:47
BarkingFishexcellent :)17:49
BarkingFishThank you17:49
genii-aroundBarkingFish: You're welcome17:50
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apacheloggerSentynel: please run kdebugdialog, tick everything, then run rekonq from a terminal and try apt://amarok17:56
apacheloggerpaste me what the debug output has to say about it17:56
Sentynelapachelogger: http://pastebin.com/18kbiwgm17:57
apacheloggerohooooo17:57
apachelogger!info rekonq precise17:57
ubotturekonq (source: rekonq): KDE web browser based on Webkit. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.1-0ubuntu2 (precise), package size 2349 kB, installed size 4316 kB17:57
apachelogger!info rekonq quantal17:58
ubotturekonq (source: rekonq): KDE web browser based on Webkit. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.2-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 1776 kB, installed size 3216 kB17:58
apacheloggerfound it :P17:58
Sentynelaha.17:58
apacheloggerSentynel: seems rekonq does not do proper protocol check and then tries to open a KIO slave17:58
apacheloggerwhich of course fails17:58
apacheloggerwill try to find the change and question and SRU it later17:58
* apachelogger first needs to fix his keyboard17:58
Sentynelrighto17:58
BarkingFishgenii-around: ok, i just set that up in /etc/apt/preferences - Package: Pulseaudio  Pin: release n=precise Pin-Priority -1018:01
BarkingFishand I also did that with the Pulseaudio-module-x11, which I don't want either.  Now, will that break anything which needs pulseaudio, and is it likely to moan if that happens?18:01
genii-aroundBarkingFish: Might want to make the P in Pulseaudio lowercase18:01
BarkingFishyeah, I did, that was just me typoing in here18:02
genii-aroundBarkingFish: You can also use a wildcard at the end like pulseaudio*18:02
BarkingFishah, well I've pinned both individually, separate entries in the preferences, so I'll see how this goes.  I have some packages due to update tonight, so I'll see whether PA comes back.  I have nothing against it, it just busts my sound card so I can't use it properly.18:04
BarkingFishif it works for others, it's not for me to dissuade people from using it, i just personally don't get along with it18:04
genii-aroundUnderstandable18:04
BarkingFishi used to have such a better time back when kde used arts & artsd :)  It never went wrong, ever.  If I could resurrect that tomorrow, i'd do it :)18:06
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BluesKajgenii-around, i was about to suggest pavucontrol added to pulseaudio works well with pci soundcards , PA by itself is ok , but for 5.1 etc playback , analog or digtal pavucontrol gives more options18:17
genii-aroundBluesKaj: Luckily I haven't had to do anything tricky with my soundcard in ages18:18
genii-aroundThe last thing was some messup in 8.04 with IntelHDA cards18:18
BluesKaji used to run the onboard card but the digital stream was low rate and full dropouts , so I added this m-audio and it has some fairly high rate options18:20
Jarrisi need your help, trying to get kde running .... this morning i did-release-upgrade from kubuntu-oneiric to precise and it breake up with dependenci errors , i was thinking i fixed those i get it through the upgrade, but now after userlogin i see a blue screen18:21
BluesKajless distortion as a result18:21
Jarrissee kdm.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1030835/18:27
Jarristher is an error with dbus, but dbus is running18:27
Jarrisdpkg showed "rc plasma-widget-kimpanel-backend-ibus " but i was not able to reinstall it18:31
BluesKajmozzy, I was trying to make sure sky100 had all the proper apps and codecs in case the avi files were DRM'd ..i've seen avi's deliberately DRM'd and regionally encoded to prevent copying18:36
mozzyoh ok, ya that makes sense18:38
BluesKajmozzy, he definitely has an odd issue tho ...hope he didn't turn his notifier off :)18:39
mozzystrange thing, his notifier works18:39
BluesKajfor nother stuff ?18:40
BluesKajother18:40
mozzydiscs he burnt in older kubuntu version 11.10 show up to mount18:40
mozzyand other OS's18:40
mozzyas they should18:40
mozzyeven his k3b burns, burn properly enough to be read in other OSS's and devices18:41
* BluesKaj wonders whether his k3b has an issue18:41
mozzyblank disc pop up in his notifier but his k3b burns...linux acts like it doesnt exist18:42
mozzyonly in kubuntu 12.0418:42
mozzyi went through all his k3b settings, kde system settings, device notification settings via teamviewer and they were all good18:42
mozzymatched my own18:42
mozzyi did a test burn this morning on my machine with kubuntu 12.04 and on his via teamviewer18:43
BluesKajwell, then it's a mystery to me18:43
mozzyeverything matching18:43
mozzyya18:43
mozzyim out of ideas here18:43
BluesKajmozzy, maybe he could try setting his system settings removable devices to "enable automatic mounting of removable media"18:49
mozzyi almnost checked that18:49
mozzyit isnt checked on mine18:49
BluesKajit shows a cd mounted here18:50
mozzyso i fgiured it would have no effect if it doesnt see the media atr all18:50
mozzyon his18:50
mozzykubuntu thinks nothing has been inserted18:50
mozzyonly happens with k3b burns under kubuntu 12.0418:51
BluesKajmight be worth a trry tho18:51
mozzyall his other discs he burnt show up in the notifier18:51
mozzylike they do on mine18:51
mozzyextremly odd18:52
BluesKajyup18:52
mozzydoubting an automount would fix the issue18:52
mozzybrb18:52
NoiseCounsellorIn case anyone wondered, errors related to "lnusertmp" can be remedied by checking permissions on /tmp and /var/tmp, though I don't quite understand how a crashed harddrive would alter those two and leave other directories alone19:20
eddyhola19:20
eddyalguien que hable español19:20
eddytengo un problema y no se que hacer con mi sistema operativo19:20
NoiseCounsellor!es | eddy19:20
ubottueddy: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.19:20
genii-aroundNoiseCounsellor: Possibly because there were ope files there at the time19:23
genii-around*open19:23
NoiseCounsellorgenii-around: Yes, but I figured it would have had an even better chance of corrupting anything in /19:29
natmancan i stuff from ubuntu app store on Kubuntu?19:55
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douglarret_how big should my swap partition be?20:43
genii-aroundGenerally 1-2x ram size20:44
douglarret_thanks20:51
levi501dok this is weird, after running my last apt-get update && upgade my computer is now reporting this is ubuntu 12.04 not kubuntu21:03
natman_there is a paid for app in the ubuntu app store, how do i get it on kubuntu?21:05
douglarretwhere is the ubuntu app store?21:07
mozzyyou mean ubuntu software center?21:07
douglarretsure?21:08
natman_ya, how do i get it?21:08
mozzywhich version of ubuntu?21:08
douglarretmark it for install and apply changes?21:08
mozzy11.10? 12.04?21:09
natman_12.04, i cant find it in my muon package manager21:09
mozzyearlier?21:09
mozzyok21:09
mozzysudo apt-get install software-center21:09
mozzyand it installs21:10
natman_mozzy:  i have the kde software centre21:10
mozzynever heard of it21:10
natman_I have "muon software center"21:10
genii-aroundmuon has been the default for a while now21:11
mozzyif you want the classic ubuntu software center with apps, install that package21:11
mozzyworks in kubuntu and ubuntu21:11
mozzyboth have the same base21:11
mozzyI use Apper with KDE21:11
natman_mozzy:  ok, i just wanted to be able to get one package, dont really want another software manager21:11
mozzyok, then you wont need it21:12
mozzythought someone was asking for it21:12
mozzydoug was21:12
douglarretyes - appreciate the info :)21:12
mozzyi like apper and terminal myself for installing packages21:13
mozzysynaptic is ok21:13
mozzyyoure welcome21:13
* douglarret = sorry - distracted insalling 12.04 on other PC21:13
mozzyno problem21:15
douglarretcan I change my config after install to auto updates for security?21:16
mozzythink its best not to let auto updates happen21:17
mozzyso you have time to prepare if they are many21:18
douglarretmozzy, ok then - that is what I chose? thanks21:18
mozzyget updates tho, but on your own time21:18
douglarretright21:19
mozzyonce a week or once a month tops21:19
Ze_BlobHello folks, i am planing an upgrade from 10.11 to 04.12, reading currently the faq and this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades/Kubuntu. This seems a pretty straightforward process. I would like to know however if having the repository for nvidia drivers and bumblebee can cause a problem during the upgrade ? and are there some extra things not in the webpage that i should take...21:20
Ze_Blob...care of ?21:20
mozzydouglarret, as far as security, linux is pretty good with that21:24
mozzyno worries21:24
mozzymost updates are just fixes21:26
mozzyand improvements21:26
BarkingFishevening guys, anyone know what this is and what the package is please? I can't seem to find it, but my system starts it during boot:21:38
BarkingFish* Starting Uncomplicated firewall   [OK]21:38
BarkingFishI've passed it through locate and can't find it, but I'd like to at least know which package it is if nothing else21:40
mozzywondered what that was myself BarkingFish21:44
mozzy"Uncomplicated" makes me think a very basic built in firewall21:45
BarkingFishYeah - I don't run any firewalls on here, I've certainly not installed any and I'll be danged if I'm keeping it on.21:45
mozzyone that doesnt need confgiuring21:45
mozzyjust my .0221:45
mozzyi very light one that we'd never notice kinda thing21:46
mozzya*21:46
mozzydunno21:46
mozzyits purpose could be to block the most documents type attacks21:47
mozzydocumented*21:47
BarkingFishNo disrespect to kubuntu, but I don't really want packages installing that I've not asked for.21:47
mozzy"Ufw stands for Uncomplicated Firewall, and is program for managing a netfilter firewall. It provides a command line interface and aims to be uncomplicated and easy to use."21:48
mozzyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UncomplicatedFirewall21:48
mozzyufw package perhaps21:49
BarkingFishaha21:49
BarkingFishthank you21:49
mozzyyoure welcome21:49
BarkingFishnow I can apt-get remove it :)21:49
BarkingFishdone21:49
mozzydeal :)21:49
mozzybbiab21:50
BarkingFishok21:50
BarkingFishthanks mozzy21:50
JMichaelXis anyone here aware of any kind of bug in 12.04, or in KDE 4.8.3, in which excessive disk activity is taking place?21:53
JMichaelXon this machine, the fan is just running constantly21:55
genii-aroundNot offhand. But then again I always have akonadi and desktop search file indexing turned off21:55
JMichaelXi have desktop search file indexing shut off as well, but possibly not akonadi21:55
genii-aroundThere used to be some issue with nvidia gpu fans in laptops always running fullout21:56
JMichaelXgenii-around: do you have to abstain from the digital clock in order to do that?21:56
genii-aroundJMichaelX: No idea. I have no widgets on my desktop, i just use the standard clock on my bar21:57
JMichaelXgenii-around: in 11.10, this problem would show up in one KDE SC release, then disappear in the next... back and forth21:57
JMichaelXgenii-around: ok, i thought that clock depended on akonadi21:57
JMichaelXgenii-around: i think it rather depends on nepomuk, instead22:00
genii-aroundJMichaelX: Do you have some nvidia card for video?22:07
JMichaelXgenii-around: yes. an onboard nvidia ion222:07
genii-aroundJMichaelX: Perhaps http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=17553322:08
genii-around( if it's the gpu fan and not cpu fan constantly on )22:09
JMichaelXgenii-around: this machine has only one fan... probably doing the job of both22:12
genii-aroundJMichaelX: I'm using the xorg-edgers drivers, not having the fan issue. But then it might be my particular card is not affected ( 9300M GS )22:14
JMichaelXgenii-around: i'm also using xorg-edgers... i believe22:15
JMichaelXi take that back. i am using xorg-edgers at work, but not here22:16
JMichaelXmaybe i'll give that a shot22:16
JMichaelXthis is a GT21822:17
JMichaelXgenii-around: thx for your input. i'll try to do some experimenting.22:18
genii-aroundJMichaelX: No problem. Perhaps keep us posted if you discover the issue, or solve it22:19
JMichaelXgenii-around: will do22:19
=== gladius is now known as gladii
gladiiHi22:21
gladiiHi, I am trying to install DVB-USB TV Tuner card22:22
gladiiI an unable to fix it.22:22
gladiiCould someone help me with that please?22:22
gladiiI am using Sino Card22:22
gladiiAdditional Drivers - firmware for DVB Cards22:23
gladiidmesg 'E3C EC168 DVB-T USB2.0 reference design' in cold state, will try to load a firmware22:23
gladiiCould someone help me with this please?22:23
genii-aroundgladii: Can you pastebin result of: lsusb please22:26
genii-around!pastebin22:26
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gladiiYes...22:26
gladiione moment please... genni-around22:27
gladiihttp://pastebin.com/74fSAw1R22:27
gladii@genni-around, are you around?22:29
gladii:)22:29
genii-aroundgladii: Yes. Researching22:30
gladiiThank you22:30
gladiigenni-around, It's an additional driver22:30
douglarretgrub failed to install during my install - what should I do?22:30
gladiigenii-around, http://imagebin.org/215712 Screenshot22:32
FloodBotK1!netsplit22:36
douglarretI just finished installing 12.04 and installed lilo instead of grub (grub failed) and now my machine does not boot? I have another install on same machine on other media - how can I install grub for both installs of 12.04?22:36
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit22:36
genii-aroundgladii:I would suggest to download the firmware, put it in directory of /lib/firmware/22:39
gladiiThank you genni, How could I download and put the firmware.... Sorry I am new Ubuntu.22:40
gladiigenni-around: Thank you for trying to help.22:41
genii-aroundgladii: http://tanguy.wdscript.fr/index.php?q=system/files/FirmwareEC168.zip  has the firmware. After downloading, unzip the file. Put the file which ends in .fw or .bin into /lib/firmware/22:42
gladiigenii-around : I have these three files in that folder dvb-usb-ec168.fw  EC168BDA.bin  EC168BDA.ihex22:44
gladiiShould I put everything or on /lib/firmware22:44
genii-aroundgladii: I think only the first two files. To copy them into /lib/firmware/ you need admin rights22:45
genii-aroundgladii: What directory are the files in right now?22:45
gladiigenii-around : I guess I coppied22:47
gladiihttp://pastebin.com/VVjRgyFa22:47
gladiiwhat could I do now?22:47
douglarretI just finished installing 12.04 and installed lilo instead of grub (grub failed) and now my machine does not boot? I have another install on same machine on other media - how can I install grub for both installs of 12.04?22:48
genii-aroundgladii: I should give a lecture about using sudo su instead of sudo -i  :-) .. But not right now.22:48
genii-aroundgladii: gladiiUnplg it, wait for dmesg to settle down, replug it22:49
gladiigenii-around : I would love to here that lecture from you.22:49
genii-aroundgladii: Then pastebin result of: dmesg| tail22:49
BarkingFishdouglarret: when you say "grub failed" first of all, what exactly did grub do?22:50
BarkingFishIt might help us to try and figure out how you can make it work if you now intend to install it :)22:50
cleaninstallgrub is good for catching fish, hmmmm22:50
gladiigenni-around : http://pastebin.com/u2kdmPD922:52
douglarretBarkingFish, grub failed to install on sda during kubuntu 12.04 install so I selected lilo but booting that drive makes the machine hang with flashing lights on keyboard.22:55
BarkingFishthat sounds like a kernel panic22:56
BarkingFishI get my caps & scroll lock lights flash on/off when my system panics, usually when it fails to sync init22:57
douglarretBarkingFish, thot so? so I booted other install of 12.04 to fix the sdb install of 12.0422:57
gladiigenni-around : are you around?22:58
gladii:-/22:58
BarkingFishgenii-around: I don't suppose you'd be able to help douglarret replace lilo with an alternative bootloader when he can't even hit busybox or SUM to do any work on it, would you? :)22:58
genii-aroundgladii: I missed your message, you were putting genni instead of geni  :) Reading paste now22:59
genii-around*genii  rather22:59
BarkingFishjust a thought, douglarret - is the disk you're installing from a live kubuntu disk, or just a straight install?22:59
genii-aroundBarkingFish: Give me a few minutes here22:59
BarkingFishok genii-around - sorry, I'll wait :) Didn't notice you were tied up22:59
gladiigenii-around: Sorry, http://pastebin.com/u2kdmPD922:59
gladiigenii-around : Thank you23:00
douglarretBarkingFish, is live 12.04 lts but did text install as live cd would not start kde - screen locked up with weird artifacts on it.23:01
genii-aroundgladii: Looks like the firmware download failed. What is the exact model of your adapter? http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/E3C_EC168  lists more than one which fit vendor:device of 18b4:168923:01
BarkingFishdouglarret: that sounds very odd.  Any chance of you burning the iso to CD and trying again, I smell a corrupt disk :)23:02
BarkingFishalso, do you know what video adapter you have in the machine? Is it something like an nvidia or that kind of thing?23:02
genii-arounddouglarret: When grub failed, did it give some kind of informative message?23:03
douglarretBarkingFish, nvidia and it is the same disk I used to insall 12.04 on notebook and usb install - still think it may be the disk?23:03
BarkingFishdouglarret: as a rescue on that - if it does lock up, you can go to a terminal and type  sudo service kdm restart and see if that does the trick23:04
douglarretgenii-around, nothing informative - no23:04
BarkingFishand no, it might be the video adapter - I have heard of people having issues with nvidia things -- unfortunately, I don't have any myself, so I can't help23:05
genii-arounddouglarret: Which device did you tell it to install to? eg: /dev/sda or /dev/sdb  or something more like /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb2   or so on23:05
douglarretBarkingFish, "sudo service kdm restart" booting the cd in live mode or rescue?23:05
BarkingFishwhen you're in live mode - if you can't start kde, press ctrl, alt and f1 together to get to a terminal, and type that command. It will kill kde and restart it23:06
douglarretgenii-around, did not give me an option to choose - but it was trying to install to sda when the system was installed to sdb23:06
gladiigenii-around : DUTV009 SinoVideo 3420A-2, I think it is this one, since the USB ID is 18b4:1689 e3C Technologies DUTV00923:07
BarkingFishnow I'm gonna stop interrupting, and let genii-around see if they can help you :)23:07
douglarretBarkingFish, thanks for your help :)23:07
genii-arounddouglarret: Yes, sda would have been correct.. it wants the first disk in the boot sequence usually23:07
genii-aroundgladii: OK. Give me some time for research and other helping23:08
BarkingFishnp douglarret - I am happy to help where I can, but I will always hand over to more experienced users when I need to, only been on kubuntu 1 year :)23:08
gladiigenni-around : Thank you :-)23:08
gladiigenii-around: Thank you23:09
douglarretgenii-around, yes I was expecting that? but was weird when it faild to install there.23:09
genii-arounddouglarret: Is there some raid setup on that system?23:09
douglarretgenii-around, no - nothing like that23:10
douglarretsystem hangs when booting live 12.04 ctrl+alt+f1 is not responsive23:14
genii-aroundgladii: When it is plugged in, does: lsmod     show a driver in use named mxl5005s or mxl5007t  ?23:15
genii-arounddouglarret: I have not used LiLo for years :(23:16
douglarretgenii-around, same - since redhat days? and I can see why with my kernel panic issue23:17
douglarretgenii-around, trying to rescue system not23:17
douglarretnow23:17
genii-arounddouglarret: The livecd boots OK?23:18
gladiigenii-around : I couldn't find that one, however, these are my results http://pastebin.com/cDGXnW3F23:18
douglarretgenii-around, no hangs with graphic artifacts and ctrl+alt+f1 is not responsive23:19
genii-arounddouglarret: Did you try with nomodeset ?23:20
genii-around!nomodeset23:20
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter23:20
douglarretgenii-around, thanks looking at it now23:21
douglarretgenii-around, I managed to install from text mode I am just trying to insall grub now? I have a 12.04 install on usb on same system - is there any way in copying that working system to the sdb and installing grub after that...23:23
douglarretgrasping at straws here?23:24
genii-aroundgladii: I can't seem to find some alternate firmware for this device. Can you pastebin result of: sudo lshw   please. It will have somewhere in it more details of the device23:25
genii-arounddouglarret: The idea would be to somehow obtain a command-line on another linux ( either on cd or on another disk/partition of the same machine) then to chroot into the affected install partition and have it do update-grub23:27
genii-aroundAway from the computer a few minutes but returning23:28
douglarretgenii-around, I can boot 12.04 on same machine from usb stick? is there a howto for this fix?23:29
gladiigenii-around: http://pastebin.com/38AAqcP123:29
gladiigenii-around: Thank you for all your help.23:29
gladiigenii-around : I am sorry, I consume more of your time.23:29
* douglarret googling chroot23:32
douglarretgenii-around, would this work from the working install of  kubuntu and include both options in the grub menu? "/usr/sbin/grub-install --recheck --no-floppy /dev/sda"?23:36
JMichaelXgenii-around: well, i installed the xorg-edgers ppa on this machine, but so far there does not seem to be any improvement at all.23:47
JMichaelXi did boot into an icewm session, just to see whether or not the fan ran as much as it is running in KDE, and indeed it did. to me that also points the figured more squarely at nvidia.23:48
douglarretpasswerd23:50

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