[01:20] <bobweaver> ping Bentheplantguy1 I am back from meeting
[01:54] <Bentheplantguy1> bobweaver: back. ready?
[01:54] <bobweaver> sure
[01:54] <bobweaver> pm me info
[02:35] <phillip69> Every time that i try to connect my wireless card in wicd it says connection failed bad password
[05:25] <bobweaver> Hello ankit__
[05:25] <ankit__> hi
[05:25] <stlsaint> ankit__: that error you got is because you need to be sudo
[05:25] <bobweaver> Thansk for joining UBuntu Beginners
[05:25] <stlsaint> ooppps wrong
[05:25] <bobweaver> sorry for the run a round that is a social channel
[05:25] <ankit__> bob i am new at ubantu
[05:26] <stlsaint> its cause you have another process running synaptic
[05:26] <bobweaver> you error is with something open
[05:26] <bobweaver> or lock file is messy
[05:26] <bobweaver> so lets debug
[05:26] <ankit__> update manger is running
[05:26] <ankit__> only
[05:26] <bobweaver> that is running dpkg them
[05:26] <bobweaver> dpkg ot debian package manger
[05:27] <bobweaver> or *
[05:27] <bobweaver> is a tool that needs system recourse
[05:27] <bobweaver> It can not run at two times you must wait for Update manager to stop
[05:27] <bobweaver> I hope that this helps
[05:28] <nick123456> could somebody help me with partitions?
[05:28] <bobweaver> sure n
[05:28] <bobweaver> nick123456,
[05:28] <nick123456> im using an hp 2000-410us. preloaded with windows, and i added ubuntu
[05:29] <stlsaint> nick123456: what is your question
[05:29] <nick123456> ive used un my unallocated 4gb or so, and now i want to make my c: available to ubuntu
[05:29] <bobweaver> nick123456,  do you know how to mount things ?
[05:30] <stlsaint> nick123456: you can just select it from your Places menu and it will automatically mount on your ubuntu
[05:30] <stlsaint> use fstab to make permanent
[05:31] <nick123456> i well i used GParted, and tried to unmount it from there to split the memory. but it is mounted to /host. and i get this error
[05:31] <nick123456> "umount: /host: device is busy.         (In some cases useful info about processes that use          the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
[05:31] <stlsaint> nick123456: 4GB isnt the recommended amount for a full blown install.......are you using wubi??
[05:32] <bioterror> gnome and couple of programs, my / is 8GB
[05:32] <nick123456> no. ubntu 12.04 i think
[05:33] <nick123456> where is this places menu?
[05:33] <nick123456> im new to ubuntu. and trying to learn a little
[05:34] <stlsaint> nick123456: you did a livecd install?
[05:34] <stlsaint> nick123456: look in your right unity bar...you see a icon with a folder on it...
[05:34] <ankit__> Using command line go to this folder /home/ruzdi/program/ns-allinone-2.34
[05:34] <ankit__> how to reacch command line
[05:34] <ankit__> in ubantu
[05:34] <nick123456> i download it on my windows. then put it on a usb and installed it from there
[05:34] <bobweaver> ankit__,  press ctrl+alt+t
[05:35] <stlsaint> ankit__: lets not copy and paste commands aye ;)
[05:35] <ankit__> then bob
[05:35] <ankit__> Using command line go to this folder /home/ruzdi/program/ns-allinone-2.35
[05:35] <stlsaint> nick123456: alright well do you see the icon i mentioned before with the folder on it?
[05:35] <ankit__> then how to go there
[05:35] <bobweaver> IDK is there a README file ?
[05:35] <bobweaver> ;p
[05:36] <bobweaver> sorry dog typing
[05:36] <nick123456> no. which folder is it?
[05:36] <stlsaint> ankit__: what folder are you talking about? Better yet WHO are you typing to??
[05:36] <stlsaint> nick123456: on your desktop do you see a bar to the far left?
[05:36] <nick123456> yes. i see the bar.
[05:36] <stlsaint> do you see the icons on the bar?
[05:37] <nick123456> and there is no such file or directory to    /home/ruzdi/program/ns-allinone-2.35
[05:37] <nick123456> yes. i see the icons
[05:37] <stlsaint> nick123456: do you see a icon with a folder on it?
[05:37] <stlsaint> ankit__: again....please stop copying and pasting commands from a unknown source that the OP does not have nor would have
[05:37] <nick123456> no. ive changed the bar a little. i assume youre talking about the home folder?
[05:37] <stlsaint> nick123456: yes
[05:38] <nick123456> im in it
[05:38] <stlsaint> you hit that folder and a window will pop showing all your partitions on your system. your windows drive is listed on that list to the left
[05:38] <ankit__> kk
[05:40] <nick123456>  heres a list of whats on there...blank disc, system, recovery, home, desktop, documents, downloads, music, pictures, videos, file systems, trash, browse network
[05:41] <stlsaint> nick123456: i would assume that system is your windows. To be sure lets go to the command line.
[05:41] <nick123456> ok
[05:41] <stlsaint> nick123456: you know how to open a terminal?
[05:41] <nick123456> yes
[05:41] <nick123456> its open
[05:42] <stlsaint> nick123456: follow commands:
[05:42] <stlsaint> sudo fdisk -l
[05:42] <stlsaint> that is a lowercase L
[05:42] <ankit__> how to install any software in ubantu
[05:42] <ankit__> ?
[05:42] <stlsaint> ankit__: use the ubuntu software center
[05:43] <ankit__> no in ns-2 there is "./install" given where i hve to do that
[05:43] <ankit__> ?
[05:43] <stlsaint> what is ns-2?
[05:43] <stlsaint> nick123456: can you use the site: paste.ubuntu.com to paste the output
[05:44] <nick123456> do i just copy and paste in the website?
[05:44] <ankit__> network simulator 2
[05:45] <stlsaint> nick123456: yep, then hit the send button and give me the url afterwards
[05:45] <stlsaint> ankit__: search for it in USC
[05:45] <ankit__> http://ruzdi.wordpress.com/2011/09/04/simple-way-to-install-ns2-in-ubuntu-10-10/
[05:45] <ankit__> i am following this
[05:46] <ankit__> in the step 6
[05:46] <ankit__> there is ./install
[05:46] <ankit__> given
[05:46] <nick123456> give me a second
[05:46] <ankit__> USC?
[05:46] <wilee-nilee> ankit__, are you running 10.10?
[05:46] <stlsaint> ankit__: USC==Ubuntu Software Center
[05:46] <ankit__> YES
[05:46] <stlsaint> whoa buddy
[05:46] <stlsaint> simple question
[05:46] <wilee-nilee> ankit__, that is end of life I assume you know this.
[05:47] <ankit__> kk
[05:47] <ankit__> plz tell?
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> ankit__, you do not have access to the regular repos and no security updates.
[05:48] <ankit__> wilee no?
[05:48] <ankit__> wilee no....
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu has support lengths in time, that ones tome ran out about 4 months agp
[05:48] <nick123456> heres the results http://paste.ubuntu.com/1029884/
[05:49] <wilee-nilee> ankit__,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[05:49] <stlsaint> nick123456: alright one sec bud
[05:49] <nick123456> thanks
[05:50] <stlsaint> nick123456: you sure you didn't do a wubi install cause it sure looks like it
[05:50] <stlsaint> you have three partitions and one of them is a recovery leaving two....
[05:50] <nick123456> i guess its possible. is there a way to check?
[05:50] <nick123456> i did also have hp tools. but i deleted it
[05:52] <stlsaint> nick123456: ah man don't delete partitions like that. at least make a ghost image first ;) (future reference)
[05:53] <nick123456> on system details it says i have ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[05:53] <nick123456> i didnt really think that one was necessary but thanks for the tip
[05:54] <stlsaint> nick123456: one sec
[05:56] <stlsaint> nick123456: on your windows machine you should have a C:\ubuntu directory
[05:57] <stlsaint> nick123456: thats IF you did wubi install....which i believe you did
[05:57] <nick123456> what exactly is wubi?
[05:59] <stlsaint> nick123456: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#What_is_Wubi.3F
[06:00] <nick123456> so should i remove this and reinstall ubuntu?
[06:07] <nick123456> ?
[06:07] <stlsaint> nick123456: well its up to you
[06:08] <stlsaint> nick123456: you have ubuntu installed. Its just not a technical Live install
[06:08] <stlsaint> nick123456: and with 4GB space i would not suggest trying to install
[06:09] <nick123456> i have a 500gb hard drive, would there be anyway to put it in that large chunck of space?
[06:10] <stlsaint> nick123456: a external hdd?
[06:10] <nick123456> no. internal. its about 488 on my c:
[06:11] <stlsaint> if you wanted to do a full blown install i would suggest making a larger partition using windows disk management tool
[06:11] <nick123456> and i would do that by booting with windows?
[06:11] <stlsaint> nick123456: yes
[06:12] <nick123456> could you send me a link to instructions please?
[06:12] <stlsaint> nick123456: one sec
[06:14] <stlsaint> nick123456: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows
[06:16] <nick123456> thank you so much. i just need help with one more thing.... removing what i have now
[06:19] <stlsaint> nick123456: removing ubuntu?
[06:19] <nick123456> well.... wubi
[06:19] <stlsaint> nick123456: if you but in your windows and you see a ubuntu folder there then you have a wubi install and its super easy to remove....
[06:20] <nick123456> just uninstall from there?
[06:20] <stlsaint> nick123456: ha, even better. If you see Ubuntu under your "All programs" list under control panel you know you have a wubi install
[06:20] <stlsaint> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#Uninstallation
[06:20] <stlsaint> nick123456: ^^
[06:20] <nick123456> appreciate all the help
[06:21] <stlsaint> nick123456: no prob. be careful. if you dont have ubuntu wubi install than dont go deleting partitions cause you have to turn your MBR back over to windows
[06:45] <aeoril> stlsaint:  How do you change your MBR back to Windows if you want to stop dual-booting Linux?
[06:45] <Guest83000> Hello guys.i am trying to load ubuntu from Live cd.but when i am move mouse cursor or trying to open appliction ubuntu got hanged or freezed.Help me guys
[06:47] <stlsaint> aeoril: proper way....have a recovery disc of your system on hand
[06:47] <aeoril> ok, thanks
[06:49] <Guest83000> when i am see ubuntu desktop after that ubuntu got hanged
[06:49] <Guest83000> any help?
[06:54] <stlsaint> Guest83000: thats not much to go off of. Care to explain more?
[06:56] <Guest83000> i am load the ubuntu from Livecd.everything going fine untill i am see the desktop.then after that if i am trying to move mouse or trying to open application
[06:56] <Guest83000> ubuntu got hanged
[07:02] <stlsaint> Guest83000: could be hardware. What you running?
[07:02] <Guest83000> intel Pentium duel core,1 gb ram,256 video card
[07:03] <Guest83000> trying to load unbuntu 10.4 from Live cd
[07:04] <Guest83000> everything going fine untill i am see the desktop.then after that if i am trying to move mouse or trying to open application
[07:04] <stlsaint> Guest83000: did you check the md5sum of the livecd iso before burning
[07:04] <Guest83000> Yes
[07:05] <stlsaint> Guest83000: can you view your dmesg log?
[07:05] <stlsaint> when the mouse hangs are you able to press ctrl+alt+f1 to get to tty?
[07:06] <Guest83000> Nah
[07:07] <Guest83000> when i am move mouse evrything is got freezed
[07:08] <stlsaint> ok well before you move the mouse or hit ctrl+alt+f1 then login and run command: dmesg
[07:08] <stlsaint> Guest83000: look for anything that shows as error or modules not loading
[07:09] <Guest83000> Okay
[07:11] <Guest83000> thanks
[07:11] <Guest83000> i am going to check
[07:11] <Guest83000> then i am contact you
[07:31] <bioterror> hi again hobgoblin ;)
[07:32] <hobgoblin> :)
[07:32] <hobgoblin> I don't hang about in that channel :)
[07:32] <hobgoblin> forum gets loads of that spam :(
[07:33] <bioterror> spam is nasty
[07:33] <hobgoblin> yep
[07:42] <stlsaint> later folks
[07:43] <hobgoblin> cya stlsaint
[09:10] <acme> hello
[09:11] <hobgoblin> hello :)
[09:11] <acme> :)
[09:11] <acme> im new to ubuntu
[09:11] <hobgoblin> what card is it - what driver are you trying to install
[09:11] <hobgoblin> acme: yea - I know :p
[09:11] <acme> my home computer driver nvidia ti 4200
[09:12] <acme> an old model
[09:12] <hobgoblin> aaah
[09:12] <acme> i have cheked other forums i got xserver installed
[09:12] <acme> but now it shows an error when i lunch it
[09:12] <hobgoblin> how did you try and install the driver?
[09:12] <acme> it downloaded it directly
[09:13] <acme> but now when i try to install anything it gives me errors
[09:13] <hobgoblin> you got it from nvidia ?
[09:13] <acme> sorry for my english
[09:13] <acme> yes
[09:13] <hobgoblin> don't worry about the english
[09:14] <hobgoblin> so you have apt errors from trying to install anything now as well?
[09:14] <acme> yes excatly
[09:14] <hobgoblin> we'll have to deal with those first then
[09:14] <acme> and at the end it shows nvidia current
[09:14] <acme> ok
[09:15] <hobgoblin> can you open a terminal and run sudo apt-get update and post the output in a pastebin
[09:15] <hobgoblin> !paste |acme
[09:15] <ubot2> acme: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[09:15] <acme> ok
[09:17] <acme> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1030099/
[09:18] <acme> do you think i made a mistake ?
[09:19] <hobgoblin> try sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:20] <acme> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1030104/
[09:21] <hobgoblin> so it is installed and there are no apt errors ...
[09:21] <hobgoblin> what are you getting a problem with?
[09:24] <acme__> hello
[09:24] <hobgoblin> so it is installed and there are no apt errors ...
[09:24] <hobgoblin> what are you getting a problem with?
[09:25] <hobgoblin> you probably missed those
[09:25] <acme__> but it doesnt sem to be installed
[09:25] <acme__> the graphics quality is awful
[09:25] <acme__> its like there are no drivers
[09:26] <acme__> and firefox crashes when i fullscreen a video
[09:26] <acme__> when i move a window etc
[09:27] <acme__> do i have to restart after install ?
[09:27] <hobgoblin> acme__: do this and paste the WHOLE ouput please  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:28] <hobgoblin> restart after install of nvidia is usually best - but to be honest I have seen people having problems with those old cards
[09:28] <acme__> cat: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[09:30] <acme__> no such file or directory...
[09:30] <hobgoblin> acme__: try sudo nvidia-xconfig
[09:32] <acme__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1030122/
[09:32] <hobgoblin> try a reboot now
[09:32] <acme__> ok one min
[09:33] <hobgoblin> but I might be gone - running out of time - someone will help I am sure if I am not here
[09:33] <acme__> i appreciate that :)
[09:33] <acme__> thanks very much
[09:33] <hobgoblin> welcome
[11:55] <deper29> I just bought a new HDD and I've partitioned it on /dev/sdc and I understand how to manually mount it. How can I have it so it automatically mounts so each time? I would relocate my home folder to this drive if possible
[12:01] <bioterror> !fstab
[12:01] <ubot2> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[12:08] <deper29> bioterror, so would I just add in my drive in fstab? I'm reading something about using UUID instead?
[12:09] <bioterror> #UUID=d479195b-5ed4-4dff-be5b-45a097a8898c /media/Work ext4 defaults 0 1
[12:09] <bioterror> something like that, without # ;)
[12:09] <bioterror> command "sudo blkid" gives you the uuid of the drive
[12:09] <deper29> oh, I see. so just use the UUID instead of /dev/sdc1
[12:10] <bioterror> UUID for the win
[12:10] <deper29> what are the defaults 0 1 for?
[12:11] <bioterror> defaults are just options
[12:12] <bioterror> if it should have any specific configurations, like mostly Windows XP partitions likes to have
[12:12] <deper29> what about that 0 1? I am looking on a page in help.ubuntu.com and they use 0 2
[12:12] <bioterror> or credentials like SMB
[12:13] <bioterror> The 5th column in /etc/fstab is the dump option. Dump checks it and uses the number to decide if a filesystem should be backed up. If it's zero, dump will ignore that filesystem. If you take a look at the example fstab, you'll notice that the 5th column is zero in most cases.
[12:13] <bioterror> The 6th column is a fsck option. fsck looks at the number in the 6th column to determine in which order the filesystems should be checked. If it's zero, fsck won't check the filesystem.
[12:14] <deper29> so in my case, I already have something that is one for fsck, so I should do 2 for my new drive?
[12:15] <bioterror> yes
[12:16] <deper29> okay, thanks :)
[12:20] <deper29> bioterror, so now that it should automount all the time, will all users on this machine be able to access it?
[12:20] <deper29> or do I have to chown or something?
[12:21] <deper29> *chgrp
[12:21] <bioterror> should work out of the box
[12:21] <deper29> perfect :D
[12:21] <deper29> thanks a bunch!
[12:21] <bioterror> give it a shot
[12:21] <bioterror> reboot
[12:21] <bioterror> ;D
[12:22] <bioterror> I assume you already had that mount point made?
[12:22] <deper29> I just made it now
[12:24] <deper29> just rebooting to test. back shortly
[12:30] <deper29> bioterror, it mounted just fine, but it won't let me write to it
[12:31] <bioterror> half way there :D
[12:31] <deper29> :P
[12:33] <deper29> figure it's just a permissions thing then?
[12:34] <Sidewinder1> sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername /media/disks_UUID     I believe.
[12:35] <bioterror> yeah
[12:35] <bioterror> chown it is
[12:35] <deper29> but I want all users to be able to access it
[12:35] <deper29> *write
[12:35] <deper29> all users to be able to write to it
[12:36]  * Sidewinder1 Steps aside for that; bioterror would be much better than I on the rest of the permissions thing. :-)
[12:38] <bioterror> I'm a little slow today
[12:39] <bioterror> been a rough workday and tired, but if the defaults is replaced with user?
[12:39] <deper29> in fstab?
[12:39] <Sidewinder1> deper29, And, while you wait and just for future reference, the "Ops" will correct you if you ask the same question in more than 1 channel in a short period of time. Just so that you know. :-)
[12:39] <Sidewinder1> deper29, There's even a factoid on it..
[12:40] <Sidewinder1> !crosspost
[12:40] <ubot2> Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.
[12:40] <deper29> Sidewinder1, okay, thanks
[12:40] <bioterror> deper29, yeah
[12:40] <Sidewinder1> deper29, My pleasure.
[12:41] <bioterror> drwxrwxrwx  8 sad157 sad157  148 Nov 22  2011 Dump
[12:41] <bioterror> damn
[12:41]  * Sidewinder1 Gives bioterror some caffeine. :)
[12:41] <bioterror> deper29, chmod +w /media/folder
[12:41] <bioterror> Sidewinder1, I quit coffee :D
[12:42] <Sidewinder1> Tea?
[12:42] <bioterror> occasionally :D
[12:42] <Sidewinder1> Here...../
[12:42] <Sidewinder1> HTH.
[12:42] <deper29> bioterror, there, that's all done. do I have to reboot again?
[12:42] <bioterror> deper29, nope
[12:43] <bioterror> give it a shot now
[12:43] <bioterror> sudo chown +w /path/to/whatever
[12:44] <deper29> got it, it works for me. just going to try other user on machine
[12:45] <deper29> bioterror, no dice on the other user
[12:46] <bioterror> if you say ls -la
[12:46] <bioterror> what are the attributes for the folder?
[12:46] <Sidewinder1> bioterror, I just checked the chown 'man' page and didn't see any reference to the "w" flag/option. What does it do? Not to interrupt,,
[12:47] <bioterror> give write access
[12:48] <deper29> no, chown doesn't have that command. you are thinking chmod
[12:48] <bioterror> no
[12:48] <bioterror> could be :D
[12:48] <deper29> lol
[12:49] <deper29> bioterror, http://pastebin.com/5UD01dZw
[12:49] <bioterror> jsut a moment
[12:52] <bioterror> yeah
[12:52] <bioterror> sudo chmod +w folder
[12:52] <bioterror> that should really do it
[12:54] <deper29> still nope :(
[12:54] <deper29> it does for me :P
[12:56] <deper29> just not that other user
[13:07] <deper29> bioterror, I got it :)
[13:07] <bioterror> good
[13:07] <bioterror> !cookie | deper29
[13:07] <ubot2> deper29: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[13:07] <deper29> lol
[13:07] <deper29> I had to chgrp
[13:07] <deper29> then give chmod g+w
[13:07] <bioterror> good
[13:08] <bioterror> now I can leave my work with happy mind
[13:08] <deper29> my last question, on the desktop it appears as 2.0 TB Filesystem. Can I change that name? Or would that involve me reformatting?
[13:08] <bioterror> you can change
[13:08] <deper29> lol
[13:08] <deper29> how do I do that? gparted?
[14:30] <yeehi> Hello! I am interested in using a Ubuntu based distro to run a system with the following spec. The distro is Trisquel. It uses Linux-libre. Do you think it will run this hardware? What do you think of the spec?
[14:30] <yeehi> http://pastebin.com/qAVigB2Q
[14:41] <Sidewinder1> yeehi, Looks like an impressive system. :) Nothing on your pastebin 'jumped out' at me; I think ubuntu would be superb with that system. You'll probably need to do some "tweaking' with the cam if you're intending to do skype, etc.. And, good luck with it!
[14:42] <yeehi> Thank you sidewinder1! It was very kind of you to look at the hardware for me
[14:42] <Sidewinder1> yeehi, My pleasure; I just wish it was "MY", system. :-)
[14:43] <yeehi> Somebody told me that the wifi card is an atheros AR9382 http://www.anandtech.com/show/4590/bigfoots-killern-1102-wireless-networking-vs-the-world
[14:43] <yeehi> haha!
[14:43] <yeehi> Well, I haven't got it yet! But I think the solid state drive would be gorgeous! Intel is meant to be far and away the best for SSD at the moment
[14:46] <Sidewinder1> yeehi, Agreed; I stick with Intel as much as possible. Unfortunately I'm not familiar with wifi cards. Have you searched ubuntuforums.org for that exact card to see if anyone has had any problems with it?
[14:47] <yeehi> I haven't done that yet - It might work on Ubuntu, but Ubuntu uses a Linux kernel. Trisquel doesn't. It uses a Linux-libre kernel, and it won't support proprietory drivers
[14:50] <Sidewinder1> Unfortunately I know nothing about Trisquel either. Actually it's nice to see someone who is doing their research first, rather than purchasing a whole bunch of 'off the wall' hardware; then, coming here complaining that "Ubuntu sucks", very refreshing. :)
[15:34] <Nirav> Hi
[15:34] <Nirav> How I can join ubuntu beginners team for contribute
[15:34] <Nirav> ?
[15:37] <Nirav> Anybody here ?
[15:40] <wilee-nilee> Nirav, your on now, help when needed
[15:45] <Sidewinder1> I believe that there's also an #ubuntu-beginnersteam channel, but I'm not certain of it's topic/purpose. I guess you could check it out. :)
[15:48] <philinux> It's #ubuntu-beginners-team  and  > Topic for #ubuntu-beginners-team is: Support
[15:49] <philinux> According to the channel topic
[17:07] <Sidewinder1> philinux, ^ According to the topic above, beginners-team is for off-topic. Thanks for your input, though. :-) Been coming here so long that I don't re-read the topics. I wonder what the difference is between beginner-team (ot) and #ubuntu-offtopic; one of those "mysteries", I suppose. :)
[18:52] <raubvogel> I should be able to install ubuntu in on a machine by putting its HD on another machine, installing, and then moving it back, right?
[18:56] <stlsaint> raubvogel: why would you do that?
[18:56] <Nate___> Hi I am having a problem with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 bit
[18:57] <stlsaint> !ask
[18:57] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[18:57] <Nate___> Whenever I'm using java the computer freezes and the mouse goes to the exterme right of the left screen
[18:57] <raubvogel> stlsaint: machine in question has no usb, cd, or ethernet? It only has wireless
[18:59] <Nate___> Actually whenever I'm doing anything it can randomly freeze and the mouse goes to the exterme right of the left screen
[19:00] <stlsaint> Nate___: desktop or laptop?
[19:00] <Nate___> Desktop
[19:00] <Nate___> Built it myself
[19:01] <stlsaint> raubvogel: hrm, possibly though i would suspect issues with drivers
[19:01] <raubvogel> stlsaint: I was not aware I asked to ask a question
[19:01] <stlsaint> raubvogel: was not meant for you
[19:01] <raubvogel> Oh
[19:01] <raubvogel> In any case, the drivers issue is what I am concerned about
[19:02] <raubvogel> I mean, if I get wireless running, all is well
[19:03] <stlsaint> raubvogel: wireless should not be a major issue as all drivers are handled via kernel which detect the wireless. No graphics on the other hand will need to be adjusted
[19:03] <stlsaint> raubvogel: you will need to boot into safe mode on the new computer after putting in the drive with linux
[19:03] <raubvogel> That could be a bit of an issue since the machine in question is an ex-medical tablet. i.e. now keyb
[19:03] <raubvogel> s/now/no/
[19:04] <stlsaint> raubvogel: no keyboard, no usb, no cdrom? What are you planning on using this system for??
[19:04] <raubvogel> As a tablet
[19:04] <raubvogel> Mostly to draw
[19:04] <stlsaint> touche UI??
[19:05] <raubvogel> Possible
[19:05] <raubvogel> Lemme see if I find the specs on it, since it is at home
[19:05] <stlsaint> no not possible. You install ubuntu on a system it is not a tablet
[19:05] <raubvogel> Oh
[19:06] <raubvogel> Bummer
[19:06] <stlsaint> Nate___: Can you try a different mouse?
[19:06] <stlsaint> Nate___: and what version of java you using?
[19:07] <Nate___> stlsaint: I've tried it with 2 different mice, and I'm using OpenJDK 7. Also it's not my mouse, the music freezes too
[19:07] <stlsaint> raubvogel: you could mabye use something like ubuntu-core for some custom build on a device though thats a bit advanced
[19:07] <stlsaint> raubvogel: my suggestion is to ditch that system or find a way to bluetooth a keyboard to it
[19:08] <stlsaint> Nate___: you take a look at logs?
[19:08] <stlsaint> Nate___: and if it freezes whenever you use the system what makes you think its java related?
[19:09] <Nate___> stlsaint: Sure where would they be. I'm fairly new to linux
[19:09] <stlsaint> under your /var/logs
[19:09] <Nate___> stlsaint: Whenever I play minecraft or do something graphics intensive it happens
[19:10] <stlsaint> that begs to wonder even more what i stated before...what makes you think its java
[19:10] <Nate___> Minecraft is java based
[19:10] <Nate___> I corrected myself later
[19:10] <Nate___> Which log is it?
[19:12] <stlsaint> one sec
[19:13] <stlsaint> Nate___: i would take a look at your syslog (possibly shows as syslog.1) and your xorg log
[19:14] <Nate___> I have syslog and syslog.1 and 3 different xorg logs
[19:14] <stlsaint> only view the main xorg
[19:14] <Nate___> xorg.1.log?
[19:15] <stlsaint> do you have a .0?
[19:15] <Nate___> yes
[19:15] <stlsaint> view 0 first
[19:15] <Nate___> OK what do you want me to look for or just paste it into IRC
[19:16] <stlsaint> your looking for errors or failures
[19:16] <stlsaint> Nate___: and no do not paste in here or youll get kicked for spamming
[19:16] <Nate___> Ok lol I'm looking for errors
[19:17] <Nate___> No errors but plenty of warnings
[19:19] <stlsaint> Nate___: what graphics driver are you using
[19:19] <Nate___> the FGLRX AMD rivers
[19:19] <Nate___> drivers
[19:21] <stlsaint> can you use paste.ubuntu.com to paste the output of your xorg.conf
[19:22] <Nate___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1030918/
[19:24] <stlsaint> Nate___: lol no my good person. i dont want the log. I want your /etc/X11/xorg.conf or xorg.conf.failsafe
[19:25] <Nate___> Oh sorry
[19:25] <Nate___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1030922/
[19:27] <stlsaint> all seems fine there
[19:28] <Nate___> ok
[19:28] <stlsaint> its gonna be hard to pinpoint exactly whats going on unless you can successfuly repeat the same result with specified actions
[19:29] <Nate___> I'll try loading minecraft again
[19:29] <stlsaint> meaning steps 1,2,3 will always result in a frozen system with mouse to left
[19:29] <Nate___> it's more in the exact middle of the whole thing because I have 2 monitors
[19:30] <stlsaint> right
[19:30] <Nate___> ok the flashing on the 2nd screen
[19:30] <stlsaint> Nate___: minecraft native to linux?
[19:30] <Nate___> No it's cross platform
[19:31] <Nate___> ok it didnt happen that time
[19:32] <stlsaint> Nate___: im still leaning towards graphics with the flickering of the screen
[19:32] <stlsaint> Nate___: over java
[19:32] <Nate___> yeah i don't think it's java. This graphic card is pretty problematic since I bought it
[19:34] <Nate___> I've had ubuntu before and I had a very hard time setting up dual screens this time.
[19:35] <stlsaint> Nate___: ive always tended to stick with nvidia
[19:36] <Nate___> it was the best $60 graphics card I could get
[19:36] <stlsaint> meh
[19:36] <Nate___> and I had no integrated graphics and my old one burned out
[19:36] <stlsaint> Nate___: 60 bucks should have snagged you a decent nvidia
[19:37] <Nate___> I'm due for an upgrade soon so I'll see if I can get one
[19:40] <stlsaint> koo, go for it
[19:40] <Nate___> So i guess i'm not having the problem anymore
[19:41] <stlsaint> nice
[19:41] <Nate___> so I'll come back if I do
[20:57] <Nate____> I'm back it happened again. This time after I suspended my computer and logged back in, it froze.
[21:07] <holstein> Nate____: i typically just try some different kernels.. such as a live 10.04 CD, and the upcoming alpha releases... i dont usually waste too much time on suspend either... if it doesnt "just work"
[21:07] <holstein> Nate____: is this a laptop?
[21:12] <Nate____> No it is a desktop
[21:12] <holstein> Nate____: i would just reboot it then, and not bother with suspend or hibernate
[21:13] <Nate____> Ok it automatically suspended
[21:13] <Unit193> Hibernate has been known to cause problems, so it's been disabled by default in 12.04.
[21:13] <holstein> Nate____: i doubt that... maybe you have the power settings configured that way
[21:13] <holstein> Nate____: or a keyboard combonation
[21:14] <Nate____> Ok well I'll just shut it down
[21:14] <holstein> Nate____: you wouldnt want to lose power while in suspend (repeatedly)
[21:14] <Nate____> yeah
[21:31] <Nate__> Hi an update on my problem: I can successfully reproduce my problem. Whenever I log out then back in, it does the black screen, cursor freeze.
[21:32] <stlsaint> Nate__: look back to your logs. under messages, system, dmesg, all the hardware info
[21:36] <holstein> Nate__: i would try booting an earlier kernel.. hit shift at boot and go under "previous versions" in the grub menu
[21:36] <Nate__> Ok I cant find anything in my logs...
[23:48] <acme__> hello
[23:48] <acme__> anybody here
[23:48] <acme__> ?
[23:48] <acme__> :)
[23:49] <motka> can we help you acme__?
[23:50] <acme__> yes please i have a problem with nvidia drivers
[23:50] <motka> restricted drivers stuff?
[23:50] <acme__> im sorry im new to ubuntu
[23:51] <motka> ok
[23:51] <acme__> and my friend asked me to use backtrack
[23:51] <acme__> :(
[23:52] <acme__> but now im stuck with finding the correct drivers of my card
[23:52] <acme__> its a geforce 4 ti 4200
[23:52] <acme__> its an old model
[23:54] <acme__> hello
[23:54] <motka> sorry
[23:55] <motka> I could not find any drivers for your ubuntu
[23:55] <motka> is it the latetst?
[23:55] <acme__> not really
[23:55] <motka> witch ver of ubuntu u use?
[23:56] <acme__> how can i know that
[23:57] <motka> when did you download it?
[23:57] <acme__> a week ago
[23:57] <acme__> backtrack 5