[02:09] I'm poking at a Flask app. I had forgotten how delightfully simple it is [02:25] yea, flask can be sweet for small simple stuff [03:17] new router is installed [10:47] woot, snap-l with super wireless now [11:03] kind of cool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6NdhSPZk8M&feature=youtube_gdata_player [11:56] As you may have seen, both Last.fm and LinkedIn have had a number of [11:56] passwords compromised. As a precaution, ALL Libre.fm user passwords [11:56] have been reset to a random, secure password. [11:57] Apparently Libre.fm felt left out [11:57] hah [12:16] morning [12:16] party [12:16] TGIF [12:16] aye [12:16] Heading up to Traverse City today at noon so it's a halfer for me :) [12:17] What's in Traverse City? [12:17] I was just up there a couple of weekends ago [12:18] nice beach, great little downtown area [12:18] lots of bike paths it seemed, wish we'd brought the bike up [12:18] it's where a lot of breweries and wineries are there [12:18] Bah, just go to Holland or Grand Haven or South Haven or Saugatuck [12:18] get rid of the last "there" in my sentence [12:19] Or St Joseph [12:20] My Mom loves Traverse City because they would go there as kids, but I don't really see what it has over most of the West MI towns and beaches [12:21] north always > west :P [12:22] Alaska > Oregon? [12:22] I mean MI, but hey...it's possible [12:23] Lake Superior !> Lake MI [12:23] Freezing cold and black flies [12:24] Why do people insist on clicking submit buttons multiple times? [12:24] and then get mad at me when there are duplicates [12:24] woot! laptop is shipped in the status window [12:25] MaskedDriver: I always keep thinking it'd be two lines of JS to disable the submit button when clicked, but don't do that myself [12:26] rick_h I'm tired of fixing stupid [12:26] 90% of my day is spent stupid-proofing the system I built [12:26] yea, that's just part of life [12:26] The same 4 people screw it up after e-mail after e-mail after e-mail after training after training after training [12:27] so management gives up and makes me dirty up my code to fix it for those 4 people. 50 other people use it with no issues [12:28] but it just makes me laugh that it's suddenly my fault (in the 4 peoples' eyes) when they do something we explicitely tell them NOT to do [12:29] usability matters :P [12:30] 8% of people with issues seems pretty usable [12:30] 8% is a big number, unemployment sized :P [12:30] lol [12:30] those 8% need unemployment [12:30] cause they screw up everything [12:31] not just in my system [12:31] one of them lost $20,000 for the company [12:31] he's still here [12:31] MaskedDriver: Ignore rick_h. I feel your pain. [12:32] It's common internet protocol.. You don't click Submit buttons multiple times [12:32] these are the same people that get charged twice when they buy something from the internet then claim that someone stole their credit card information [12:33] http://paste.mitechie.com/show/685/ put that at the top of each page and win/done [12:34] you assume everyone uses YUI [12:34] I assume developers can translate to their tool of choice [12:34] basically the same with jquery, but I'm not going to do that [12:34] http://www.angermanage.co.uk/ [12:34] This site is angry [12:35] this is an internal system only. If they can't follow directions that we explicitely give to them time and time again, they have no business using it [12:36] right, but you've spent more time in here ranting on it than it takes to fix it [12:36] cause I've been instructed not to [12:36] we're trying to cull out the weak.. find the people who consistently do things wrong [12:36] now you're onto a cause I can jump onto..."stupid management"! [12:36] :) [12:37] it is common, because of the double click metaphor on desktops, for users to double click on submit forms. [12:37] If the stupid were weak, they'd already be dead. Beware their hidden superpowers [12:37] my ranting is just that it's such an easy thing NOT to do. Click once, wait 2 seconds, continue on your path to success [12:38] we've shown them over and over again [12:39] I believe that if somebody works at a place that has computer-related job activities, they have to take a 2-week crash course on how to use a computer [12:41] I had a guy who spent 2 hours a day every day on the computer for a decade. He was amazed when I showed him the shift key. He had been capitalizing with the caps lock key for all that time. [12:41] brousch: exactly [12:42] brousch: I was a hero when I tought somebody ctrl+c, ctrl+v [12:47] I've been amazed and horrified at the oral traditions some people pass down from user to user in order to use a system. [12:49] lol do tell snap-l [12:56] MaskedDriver: Many examples over the years of "why are you doing it that way, and where the hell did you pick this up?" [13:01] I was hoping you had a good one [13:01] http://rinkworks.com/stupid/ [13:01] one that isn't on here but should be lol [13:52] brousch: traverse city breweries are better than holland breweries. [13:53] as for GH or saugatuck, don't know about their breweries. I know south haven has no brewery [13:54] MaskedDriver: where do you work? [13:58] an industrial contracting place is Pontiac [13:58] in* [14:05] jrwren: Have you been to a holland brewery? [14:08] yes [14:09] Shorts & Dark Horse > New Holland & Founders [14:11] Founders is GR [14:11] New Holland Dragon's Milk is the best beer ever [14:26] doh, been using my headphones backwards all this time until I just tried to set them up in ubuntu and used the sound test sound stuff [14:26] rick_h: You have the best luck with audio equipment. ;) [14:27] L / R does not mean stage L, Stage R. ;) [14:28] hah, well the L/R is a bit hard to see and it made more sense for the controls to be hidden and down vs up [14:29] I do think I need to read the manual more though don't I [14:37] http://www.udacity.com/overview/Course/cs212/CourseRev/apr2012 [14:42] woot python [14:43] hah, just got called a rock star, well my squad did at least. [14:43] * rick_h calls it a day, mission accomplished [14:44] Yeah, It hink I'm going to sign up for it, not because I necessarily need it, but it would be nice to baseline my skills [14:44] refreshers and all that always good [14:45] why I kept reading all those 'be a good programmer' books. Lots of repeats, but reinforces and a good nugget here/there. [14:45] Yeah [14:46] And the absence of process is regress [14:46] bah, I meant progress [14:47] The absence of progress is regression [14:50] * snap-l feels he should donate to archive.org in bitcoin, even though i don't have any [14:50] just to say I did [14:50] hah [14:50] and it seems like the right thing to do [14:51] lol https://twitter.com/davglass/status/211107614245924864 [15:40] python package I didn't expect to see downloaded of the day: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/argh/0.15.1 [15:51] snap-l: You were mentioning a lack of Python devs at SF http://paste.mitechie.com/show/686/ [15:58] rick_h: how many laptops is that now? I still have my t61 [15:58] as my primary laptop [15:59] well, I had a t400 or something, the x201, and now an x230 [15:59] about every 2-3yrs it's upgrade time [15:59] yeah I don't have the budget for that [16:00] well if you're looking to upgrade I've got an x201 coming up available :) 2 docks, 2 batteries, and upgraded to 160gb intel SSD :) [16:02] pm what your asking price is [16:02] hmm, time to hunt down some grub. [16:02] indeed [16:11] every 2 yrs at a minimum :) [16:22] yea, I wouldn't do this one if it wasn't for the ivy bridge. So I kind of follow chipsets like that [16:38] aside from speed and a gpu what's ivy bring to the table for you? [16:39] better power, gpu, and cpu perf are the big things [16:40] the updated ips display and the usb3 and support for msata are other wins in the 230 [16:43] Also, it's 29 more than the x201 [16:43] so that's a HUGE win [16:44] brousch: Interesting. [16:44] snap-l: hah! rev that model number ftw! [16:45] http://cl.ly/HEE3/o <- scariest part about Prometheus [16:46] tiny knobs [16:46] Look more to the left [16:46] specifically down on the left screen, bottom [16:46] ah, the windows/IE [16:46] ;) [16:46] someone moved the mouse [16:47] and nobody noticed. [17:06] anyone have a link to a prefered ways to improve battery life on ubuntu? [17:16] yea sorry. Nothing off the top of my head. Run powertop, reduce screen brightness, etc [17:17] but no good single doc I can link to [17:26] Also run later kernels [17:26] They seem to have more emphasis on power savings [17:34] yeah looks like 3 > has pcie aspm [17:42] snap-l: no worries in alien (29 years after) they run a unix terminal interface [18:27] jrwren: ++ (from reading the ancient scrollback), I love Short's but I'm also a fan of Founders. Not so much New Holland. [18:52] http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/8/3072284/dice-plus-digital-die-ios-android?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter [18:52] Talk about overengineering a non-existent problem [18:53] Although the no-cheating part is pretty cool [19:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUMjxnKzUlQ <- Welcome to the weekend's shit-storm [19:55] (~1:33) [20:01] hehe [20:38] I find it annoying and ironic that a page describing an "Open" standard uses Silverlight video with h264 fallback [20:38] (MS is a big partner, apparently) [20:38] http://www.odata.org/introduction [20:54] I find it ironic that a Print On Demand book that I ordered from Lulu on May 25th still isn't here. [20:54] (shipped on June 1st) [20:55] I think they used media rate [20:55] which is the slower boat to china [20:55] note to the impatient: never use media rate [20:56] media mail is your package tied with twine to a narcoleptic tortoise [20:57] whichi is why I ship Priority Mail [20:57] and why I have 4.9 stars on Amazon [20:58] http://laughingsquid.com/richard-pryor-performing-with-his-heavy-metal-band-black-death/ [20:58] (got a 1 star because I sold my Nokia 770 with updated firmaware that was crashy) [20:59] greg-g: odata is open because msft says its open. [21:08] oh geeze...that video is so bad [22:12] rick_h: My Cr-48 just got the new ChromeOS interface [22:15] And this is awesome http://gigaom.com/mobile/famous-judge-spikes-apple-google-case-calls-patent-system-dysfunctional/ [22:34] brousch: wow, awesome