[00:00] <shahriyarguliyev> cya
[00:00] <_k2s_> reisio, some footer blocks that are floated to the left are displayed incorrect. They are are suposed to be in line (have widths set and everything) but in the phone those divs get knocked lines down
[00:00] <terminhell> Or you can sacrfice 3 virgins and commit your soul to Moharns Daggon for a 1 minute install...
[00:00] <bazhang> terminhell, stop that
[00:00] <terminhell> >.<
[00:00] <reisio> _k2s_: why would you float a footer? Also: why would you even _have_ a footer, web sites aren't pieces of paper
[00:00] <mrguser> hi
[00:01] <mrguser> Hello guys
[00:01] <terminhell> footer information is stored on some sites, ones that use CMS's like drupal themes to place data always at the bottom of websites
[00:01] <hangdeadman> after I type in ubuntu 12.04 terminal unity --replace, I get :WARN  2012-06-07 18:48:57 unity.iconloader IconLoader.cpp:438 Unable to load icon stock-person at size 24
[00:02] <terminhell> hangdeadman: what is that supposed to do?
[00:02] <HoNgOuRu> I uninstalled pulseaudio cause only 1 soundcard was working, after reinstalling it now the sound card that was not working before is working now, but the one working before is not working now.... any clues?????
[00:02] <etfb> _k2s_: reisio shows a limited grasp of web development experience, but he/she is right that your design sounds a little complicated.  I have an android phone, and much more CSS/HTML experience. Send me a link and I'll take a look.
[00:02] <reisio> <- professional web developer of legend
[00:03] <terminhell> oh snap
[00:03] <hangdeadman> terminhell: unity --replace resets unity after any break in the desktop from what I understand.
[00:03] <_k2s_> reisio, sorry i maybe been unclear its just a div that is at the bottom of the content which has additional divs floated with set widths. I need this block for additional info :) (my client does actually)
[00:03] <reisio> _k2s_: it should appear the same unless you are doing something quite wrong (like relying on browser width)
[00:04] <shahriyarguliyev> HoNgOuRu: I have had the same problem. Look up this link, it worked as well : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[00:04] <terminhell> _k2s_: are you using joomla or some other CMS? Maybe theres an addon for mobile optimization?
[00:04] <reisio> terminhell: that'd only make it worse
[00:04] <HoNgOuRu> shahriyarguliyev, thank u
[00:05] <_k2s_> etfb, i'm sorry but i can't send you a link i have the site on my localhost.
[00:05] <terminhell> hangdeadman: ah, sorry, no idea, i dont use ubuntu, i just try to help with general linux questions here, unity ive the least experience with
[00:05] <shahriyarguliyev> HoNgOuRu: ur welcome)
[00:05] <HoNgOuRu> shahriyarguliyev, wish me good luck
[00:05] <terminhell> port forward?
[00:05] <HoNgOuRu> thats a long command
[00:05] <hangdeadman> terminhell: unity sucks, I just don't know what might be better.
[00:05] <shahriyarguliyev> HoNgOuRu: gl, wish me too. im gonna install OS
[00:06] <terminhell> anything else?
[00:06] <HoNgOuRu> ok, GOOD LUCK!
[00:06] <clark> Help me... I think that i might have found the solution to my audio problems, but i do not know how to implement the directions of "adding radeon.audio=1 as a kernel boot parameter" (as per described at http://voices.canonical.com/david.henningsson/2012/04/14/audio-over-hdmi-and-displayport-in-ubuntu-12-04/)
[00:06] <terminhell> hangdeadman: you could give gnome-shell, kde, xfce, lxde etc...too many options out there
[00:06] <_k2s_> terminhell, all is well with the site just the footer i could correct it with no problem but with android i can not browse the DOM or just use a debugger like firebug..
[00:07] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: "Installation is complete.  You may now run Ubuntu on other computers by booting them with this drive inserted."  I made a Make Startup DIsk. gave this message. damn i DID STH wrong?
[00:07] <terminhell> _k2s_: ahhhh, is your droid rooted?
[00:07] <med_> clark, you can just break in on grub with any key and then use "e" to edit your boot line
[00:07] <med_> and give it a go
[00:07] <med_> or edit /etc/default/grub
[00:07] <med_> clark, ^
[00:07] <med_> and then sudo update-grub
[00:08] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: hit enter and remove the disk, see if it boots
[00:08] <clark> awesome, i'll give it a shot. Thanks med_
[00:08] <_k2s_> terminhell, sorry do not know what that means. Have little knowledge on androids.
[00:08] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: I dont want to boot it from usb but to install it from usb, wth?
[00:08] <Ugly_Duck> can you upgrade a ubuntu desktop installation to a server installation?
[00:08] <bazhang> !lamp | Ugly_Duck
[00:09] <shahriyarguliyev> Ugly_Duck: ubuntu server is not for free
[00:09] <stef1a> anyone know how to right click by tapping on the mouse-pad (instead of actually using the button) on a laptop using ubuntu 12.04?
[00:09] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: then yes, i have no idea what you did then, reiso spelled it out clearly, tell me what exactly you did
[00:09] <bazhang> shahriyarguliyev, sure it is
[00:09] <ejo> sidegrade sort of -- ubuntu server simply has less desktop / GUI packages installed.
[00:09] <shahriyarguliyev> bazhang: what for free?
[00:09] <terminhell> stef1a: tap the bottom right corner
[00:09] <bazhang> shahriyarguliyev, it's all free. dont answer if you dont know
[00:09] <stef1a> terminhell: wow! thanks! so simple...
[00:10] <quebre> (...)https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP(...) <- haha, why is this common info require https protcol, silly thing is silly, please do not abuse https like that ;)
[00:10] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: can i install OS from that usb? or only boot OS ?
[00:10] <hangdeadman> terminhell: can you also middle click using the mouse pad on a laptop?
[00:10] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: not sure, both is possible, but im not sure what you did exactly
[00:11] <terminhell> hangdeadman: if you have your xorg configured for it im sure, or if your pad supoprts multi gestures
[00:12] <Ugly_Duck> bazhang: i was going to say, how the hell can you download it without paying for it if it wasn't free
[00:12] <bazhang> Ugly_Duck, just install lamp, and desktop is then server, once you set it up
[00:13] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: i think that message is standard, saying that you can continue to use that usb to install ubuntu on other computers...
[00:13] <shahriyarguliyev> bazhang: I am sorry for the wrong information, but once i wanted to install Ub.server it was not for free. now i looked up site both are free, also Cloud.
[00:13] <Ugly_Duck> its funny how i could install 7.10 on the server, but 12 wouldn't install
[00:13] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: and that the installation to your C: is complete
[00:14] <terminhell> id wrather use debian for servers
[00:14] <qwebirc68172> hey can anyone help i installed all updaes but now have a few issues biggest being no keyboard connection
[00:14] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: if so I will restart soon to probe
[00:14] <terminhell> usb keyboard?
[00:15] <qwebirc68172> yeah wireless was fine b4
[00:15] <terminhell> bluetooth disabled?
[00:15] <qwebirc68172> maybe checking
[00:16] <qwebirc68172> noadapters found
[00:16] <qwebirc68172> off
[00:16] <terminhell> does it show up in lspci?
[00:17] <qwebirc68172> wheres that
[00:17] <terminhell> lspci | grep bluetooth
[00:17] <Robr3rd> I ran "gksudo nautilus" did a few things, then it stopped responding so I "xkill"ed it. Now, however, any time I type in "gksudo nautilus", I get the passwrod prompt, but a Root instance of Nautilus does not pop up afterwards.
[00:17] <qwebirc68172> bt visability off
[00:17] <terminhell> Robr3rd: restart
[00:17] <escott> Robr3rd, running nautilus as root is a bad idea
[00:17] <terminhell> qwebirc68172: run it from a terminal
[00:18] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: do you know what exckusive advantages does ubuntu server have? that are not included in ubuntu desktop?
[00:18] <qwebirc68172> lspci | grep bluetooth?
[00:18] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: no GUI for uneeded overhead and cpu/mem usage
[00:18] <Robr3rd> terminhell, Yes, restarting does solve the problem, but this happens every time I try doing this, then restart, then happens again.
[00:18] <randomusername> on ubuntu 12.04, python doesn't find the packages that gets installed. for example, I try to install urllib3 and it's put in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ but when I run python (-v tells me it's 2.7) it can't find the package
[00:18] <katzenklavier> hey there - I'm trying to get Minecraft to install on Ubuntu but I'm having trouble.  Anyone have any idea what I need to do?
[00:19] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: only CLI ? or GUI is also included ?
[00:19] <randomusername> i've tried both pip install urllib3 and python setup.py install in a downloaded copy, and it's not found
[00:19] <Robr3rd> escott, I am fully aware, but then again, doing things via Terminal doesn't exactly expedite the process. ;) All I'm doing is managing themes in /usr/share so there's not much harm I could do anyway. :)
[00:19] <terminhell> Robr3rd: run it from a terminal and check the output
[00:19] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: CLI only yes and a few other things relevent to server environments
[00:20] <terminhell> Robr3rd: what kind of themes, there maybe tools already in place that will make the process easier
[00:20] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: what do u work? system admin?
[00:21] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: freelance pc repair, and startup watch maker haha, i just have a passion for linux.
[00:21] <terminhell> though ive done sys admin in the past
[00:21] <jagginess> anyone knows of something similar like this? http://keepnote.org/
[00:21] <bazhang> !ot | shahriyarguliyev
[00:21] <terminhell> built webservers from scratch (hardware included) out of my house
[00:21] <Robr3rd> terminhell, In Terminal there is no output. I run the command, enter the sudo password, and then the Terminal cursor skips to the next line and blinks, as if a program is running. So it seems to be running, but nothing is actually (visually) changing.
[00:22] <terminhell> Robr3rd: keep terminal open until you run into the problem
[00:22] <shahriyarguliyev> bazhang: are you afraid of me? cos i gave wrong info?
[00:22] <KRomo> what email client does everyone uswe on ubuntu
[00:22] <Robr3rd> terminhell, Well that's just the problem -- there isn't a window open to *cause* a problem.
[00:22] <bazhang> shahriyarguliyev, this is NOT the chat channel: it's for ubuntu support only.  #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[00:23] <terminhell> Robr3rd: try just sudo nautilus from terminal then
[00:23] <bazhang> !gksudo | terminhell
[00:23] <shahriyarguliyev> bazhang: Uh-huh! I was about to leave
[00:23] <randomusername> when I try to install python packages in ubuntu python doesn't find them, what's wrong?
[00:24] <home> having issues trying to setup opengl support on my intel card... anyone knowledgable?
[00:24] <terminhell> bazhang: obviously gksudo isnt working properly
[00:25]  * ki7rw is ticked off about having to clone my pc mac address to my router to get online with my cable internet provider
[00:25] <terminhell> randomusername: check pythons paths?
[00:26] <randomusername> where are those stored?
[00:26] <terminhell> probably in /etc/python? i forget
[00:27] <home> tryin to play Braid and its telling me "Reason: Failed to initialize OpenGL display." ... anyone able to point me? i've been at it all day trying to figure this out
[00:27] <randomusername> terminhell, okay thanks, I think i'll figure it out from here
[00:27] <ferris> when upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10 i am getting error message "error adding /etc/ssl/certs/<certs>.pem
[00:28] <Robr3rd> terminhell, Well, "sudo" doesn't work either
[00:28] <terminhell> ferris: sounds like importing pgp keys is fubard
[00:29] <terminhell> Robr3rd: kill X and log back in, see if it works
[00:30] <ferris> terminhell, how can i import the "pgp keys" in recovery console?
[00:30] <terminhell> ferris: not sure if that is indeed the issue, but ya, id google the error while you wait here.
[00:30] <ferris> ok
[00:30] <Phiscribe> maybe, try dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates (MAYBE) for the error
[00:31] <ferris> thanks Phiscribe
[00:31] <home> lol well ferris
[00:31] <home> could always do -f on that upgrade
[00:31] <home> make a backup first :P
[00:31] <ferris> did the upgrade through upgrade manager
[00:31] <home> :S
[00:31] <ferris> watching terminal for errors
[00:32] <Robr3rd> terminhell, Yes, restarting X fixes it, just like a full system reboot.
[00:33] <terminhell> so its an issue with X it sounds like
[00:33] <terminhell> update xorg?
[00:33] <Zephyrusuo> hello i just tried to install ia32-libs and it says the following http://pastebin.com/bhLKY6rm ia32-libs-multiarch also is not listed in synaptic i have tried multiple mirrors. any help would be appreciated
[00:33] <Zephyrusuo> i have tried sudo apt-get -f install
[00:33] <Robr3rd> terminhell, It's all up-to-date
[00:33] <Zephyrusuo> does no good
[00:36] <escott> Zephyrusuo, 12.04 does not need ia32-libs just sudo apt-get install program:i386
[00:36] <jagginess> !bug
[00:36] <terminhell> Robr3rd: have you tried another file manager? like thunar?
[00:36] <mynotes> test
[00:36] <Robr3rd> terminhell, No
[00:36] <ferris> fail
[00:36] <Zephyrusuo> teamviewer is dependent upon it though
[00:36] <terminhell> Robr3rd: because now it sounds like a nautilus issue
[00:37] <Bower^> i've used apt-get to install pear then used pear to grab phpunit. i've added the path to phpunit to $PATH and it works when i type phpunit into the terminal. however it doesn't work if i try "sudo phpunit". how could i resolve this?
[00:37] <Robr3rd> terminhell, Alright. :) Well, thank you for your time and assistance. :)
[00:38] <mynotes> how to reset icon on ubuntu
[00:39] <adroidman> I need help....
[00:39] <adroidman> is there anyone online
[00:39] <ferris> adroidman, what up?
[00:39] <adroidman> i was updating my Ubuntu partition and the install froze. My computer is dual booted and i cant get it to boot to the usb so I can install again
[00:39] <adroidman> I was on 10.4 and was going to 10.10
[00:40] <elijah> How would I go about buying a song on iTunes? I would much rather not but the artist only sells on iTunes.
[00:40] <wawowe3> elijah: download it elsewhere
[00:41] <ferris> adroidman, you will need to change your bios to allow the computer to boot from usb...
[00:41] <adroidman> I did but the dual boot menu keeps overriding it
[00:41] <ferris> if the pc is old... it may not be able to do it unless you get firmware updates...
[00:41] <wawowe3> somebody from the offtopic please fuck me
[00:41] <terminhell> adroidman: smash the F12 key during boot?
[00:42] <Kornkage4> elijah which song
[00:42] <KRomo> im trying to install a tar.bz file but it has no ./configure...whst to do?
[00:42] <bazhang> elijah, how does itunes relate to ubuntu support
[00:42] <Kornkage4> ./bootstrap KRomo?
[00:42] <KRomo> ?
[00:42] <adroidman> my computer is brand new... I just got it this year
[00:42] <ferris> esc, end, or an F-key should get you into the boot screen so that you can choose which device to boot from.... you should be able to change the boot order to start with the usb...
[00:43] <terminhell> sometimes usb's wont boot everytime, it may require a few attempts
[00:43] <adroidman> I have it set to pick usb
[00:43] <ferris> and  be sure to press F10 when leaving the bios
[00:43] <terminhell> how did you image the usb?
[00:44] <elijah> Kornkage4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYoXd-c9drQ
[00:44] <elijah> bazhang: How does it not?
[00:44] <adroidman> I used the pen drive
[00:44] <bazhang> elijah, dont past that here
[00:45] <elijah> bazhang: K, I won't, my bad
[00:45] <adroidman> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[00:45] <ki7rw> hmm, i can't seem to get quassel to auto-id me with nickserv
[00:45] <bazhang> elijah, itunes has no support on Ubuntu, and this is not the chat channel, try a mac channel, or #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:45] <bazhang> !alis | elijah use this to search
[00:46] <terminhell> id suggest songbird...but oh ya, theyre traitors >.<
[00:46] <adroidman> my boot order is this "USB CD/DVD ROM DRIVE      USB Diskette on Key/USB Hard Disk     Internal CD/DVD ROM Drive   Notebook Hard Drive
[00:46] <nandersson> "sudo apt-get install monodevelop" screwed up my system really good leaving a lot of packages in an inconsistent state
[00:46] <terminhell> so you gave your computer mono eh? gross
[00:47] <nandersson> libart, libglade, libgnome-vfs2.0-cil, monodevelop, libnunit2.5-cil etcetera...
[00:47] <elijah> bazhang: nice tip, thanks!
[00:48] <ki7rw> i guess i should use one id since this crappy software never works right after an update - i'm trying to log in to EFnet and Freenode with different id's
[00:48] <ferris> adroidman,  disable everything except the usb options
[00:48] <adroidman> how do I disable them?
[00:49] <ferris> adroidman, by going into bios and changing the options
[00:49] <myth1riik>  
[00:50] <ferris> adroidman,  should be in the same place the boot order is located
[00:50] <gdoteof> i have had the same ubuntu install for a while, it hasn't been reset in over 3 days
[00:51] <gdoteof> suddenly today id on't have root anymore
[00:51] <adroidman> I can only move them up and down I dont see an option to disable it anywhere
[00:51] <gdoteof> or more precisely my user name is not longer in the sudoers file
[00:51] <gdoteof> and there is no one else in /home
[00:51] <gdoteof> i know how to fix it byu booting into single user mode, but i want to know.. wtf?
[00:51] <terminhell> weird indeed
[00:54] <randomusername> the permissions of python libraries in 12.04 broken
[00:54] <home> hey gdote... can you adduser a new user ?
[00:55] <randomusername> users can't reach installed packages without being root
[00:55] <l000l> how can i connect to ubuntu channel ?
[00:55] <l000l> ?
[00:56] <mynotes> hi guys
[00:56] <genii-around> l000l: You're connected to the ubuntu channel right now.
[00:57] <home> welcome
[00:57] <Hayate> Hy mynotes
[00:57] <mynotes> how to reset settings on ubuntu 10.04.4 lts
[00:57] <l000l> ?
[00:58] <l000l> can anyone help me in an ubuntu server hardware compability
[00:58] <Hayate> L000l, what you mean
[00:58] <Quaydon> randomusername, Which packages?
[00:58] <randomusername> any packages installed
[00:58] <randomusername> that I install
[00:59] <randomusername> if I do sudo easy_install package, sudo python setup.py install or sudo pip install package
[00:59] <randomusername> I must run python as root
[00:59] <mynotes> @hayarte any idea?
[00:59] <randomusername> I can't install packages without root
[00:59] <terminhell> built from source?
[01:00] <sileni> guys
[01:00] <randomusername> built from source or downloaded using a package manager
[01:00] <sileni> I'm running Ubuntu 11.04, the global shortcuts on tomboy do not work
[01:00] <terminhell> but generally you cant install packagges without root previleges because of what the package manager needs to do
[01:00] <detly> I'm looking for a serial console program in 11.10 - moserial crashes on pretty much any operation, so is there something else?
[01:00] <sileni> I see there is a bug report open for this, is there any update in the community?
[01:00] <randomusername> but generally you're supposed to be able to read packages as a user, right?
[01:00] <Hayate> Mynotes, i think you can go to ubuntu.com, and look about hardware compatibility documentation
[01:01] <terminhell> what do you mean read?
[01:01] <escott> randomusername, what are the permissions on the py and pyc files?
[01:02] <tjayh913> I have a bit of a problem here: I wanted to change my username for my main admin account, so I found instructions working from root where I was successful with my secondary account, but for some reason now when I attempt to log into my main account, it redirects me back the login page
[01:02] <randomusername> when I install a package the permissions become
[01:02] <randomusername> drwx--S---. 5 root   jondoe  4096 jun  8 02:53 urllib3-1.3-py2.7.egg
[01:02] <randomusername> actually not jondoe but rather staff
[01:02] <randomusername> but I tried to fix it by changing the group of the folder
[01:03] <home> tjayh, whered you point your shell?
[01:04] <tjayh913> home, I atleast intended to type "usermd -m -d /home/[username] [username]" (with username being my new one that I switched in previous command)
[01:04] <detly> oh, wait, I wasn't searching on package descriptions in synaptic, oops
[01:05] <devxdev> tjayh just login as root create a new admin then do all the stuff from gui, then delete that temp admin account
[01:06] <boldfilter1> kjdsf
[01:06] <tjayh913> devxdev, I could still use my admin password to make my second account an admin, now I would just rather recover my first account
[01:07] <tjayh913> is there a way to get a log of what I actually typed in root to error check?
[01:07] <terminhell> bash.history
[01:07] <devxdev> sudo ..^
[01:07] <escott> randomusername, isnt the egg just the installer? i mean what are the permissions on the files unpacked after running easy_install
[01:08] <tjayh913> will see if I can still access root
[01:08] <randomusername> hmm that's probably correct
[01:08] <guest2> Hey every time I login, I get a connection failed. I don't think it's Thunderbird, because it connects fine, and I don't think it's Empathy because I uninstalled it. What do y'all think it could be?
[01:08] <randomusername> lemme check
[01:09] <terminhell> guest2: "online accounts" ?
[01:09] <guest2> I also tried renaming the empathy user config directories
[01:09] <guest2> Nah I don't use that
[01:09] <tjayh913> well I got into my primary account in the terminal
[01:09] <randomusername> yeah I think I broke it when I changed the permissions in an attempt to fix it
[01:09] <terminhell> what does tty1 show?
[01:09] <eagle_eye> !terminal
[01:10] <samisheikh> hi
[01:10] <qwebirc57362> is in normal that ALL my running processes are "sleeping" even if using cpu like firefox is now?
[01:10] <samisheikh> i installed xbmc on a nettop that i just bought, but i am having issues getting the dolby digital working with my receiver
[01:10] <samisheikh> i have put the following settings under audio
[01:10] <samisheikh> http://pastebin.com/PSS7eRwL
[01:10] <terminhell> qwebirc57362: yes, most will not be active
[01:10] <samisheikh> My O/S is ubuntu 10.04
[01:11] <randomusername> escott, nah it installs it into the .egg
[01:12] <randomusername> /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/urllib3-1.3-py2.7.egg/urllib3
[01:12] <tjayh913> was "bash.history" supposed to give me the log of what I typed, as in root it told me that the command was not found
[01:12] <devxdev> dont do sudo that was a mistake
[01:12] <guest2> Any other ideas why I would be getting that? Or is there some kind of log I can check after login to see?
[01:12] <escott> randomusername, well those permissions are obviously not going to work for most users. they cant even cd into that folder
[01:12] <guest2> Would dmesg show it?
[01:12] <escott> randomusername, you probably want 755 on that folder
[01:12] <randomusername> and python apitest.py gives me "No module named urllib3" while sudo python apitest.py works
[01:13] <randomusername> yeah but should it be that by default? :3
[01:13] <devxdev> @tjay913 just tail ~/bash_history
[01:13] <Zeelot> so I installed supermeatboy and changed the resolution to something unsupported... how can I fix this? purging the package and reinstalling did not fix it
[01:13] <devxdev> ~/.bash_history******
[01:14] <randomusername> i'll alias updatepython to sudo chmod -R 755 /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/
[01:14] <randomusername> good enough
[01:14] <randomusername> thansk escott
[01:14] <terminhell> Zeelot:  from xorg.conf?
[01:14] <Zeelot> terminhell: what do you mean?
[01:15] <terminhell> ............
[01:15] <LoOoD> Is preseed/early_command ran before or after /target is mounted?
[01:15] <tjayh913> hmm I typed the command correctly
[01:15] <terminhell> Zeelot: look in /etc/X11/ and dig around till you find monitor
[01:16] <devxdev> what does it tell you?
[01:17] <Zeelot> terminhell: till I find monitor?
[01:17] <HoNgOuRu> its not working, only 1 sound card is playing sound... could it be muted somewhere? where should I check ?
[01:17] <terminhell> Zeelot: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[01:18] <tjayh913> it shows that I did the exact same command as I intended to do
[01:18] <terminhell> oh wait, ubuntu doesnt use X anymore does it?
[01:18] <Zeelot> terminhell: this is a game that I run in fullscreen mode, is the answer really going to be in an X11 config file?
[01:18] <terminhell> what was the question again?
[01:18] <Zeelot> I have /etc/X11/xorg.conf but nothing in there seems useful
[01:19] <RecursiveBeast> hey guys, trying to install 12.04 server amd64 on a intel atom d2700 but the install disk tells me "This kernel requires x86_64, only detected i686 cpu"
[01:19] <Zeelot> the game starts at a resolution I cannot see (after setting it)
[01:19] <Zeelot> I don't know how to reset it
[01:19] <terminhell> hopefully the game has a config file
[01:19] <terminhell> or reinstall the game
[01:19] <Zeelot> I'm not sure where to find it
[01:19] <zykotick9> RecursiveBeast: yes your atom is only 32bit
[01:19] <RecursiveBeast> thing is... according to Intel... that CPU is 64 bit
[01:19] <Zeelot> and reinstalling didn't work
[01:19] <zykotick9> RecursiveBeast: s/yes/guess/
[01:20] <terminhell> oh k... id start by looking in /etc/game
[01:20] <guest2> Anyone else have an idea as to why I get a "connection failed" message at login? Any logs I can check?
[01:20] <sileni> Tomboy's global shortcuts don't work in ubuntu 11.04, anyone else experienced this issue before?
[01:20] <guest2> gnome3 logs or x11 log or something?
[01:20] <terminhell> or in /home/user/.local or /username/.gamefolder
[01:20] <terminhell> guest2: yes, there are log readers
[01:20] <docmur> Is there a virtualization program that I can install on the ubuntu will will act like vShpere and allow me to create virtual machines onto of ubuntu accessible remotely?
[01:21] <nina666> hi... im suffering from freezing my whole laptop... im gonna bang my head against the wall seriously!! i've already posted in the forum in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1998667 but no responses what so ever untill now... i really need some help regarding this matter as my laptop goes crazy every few minutes...
[01:21] <guest2> Can you give me the name of one of them terminhell ?
[01:21] <terminhell> log viewer
[01:21] <guest2> no I need the log itself, not a program to view logs
[01:21] <terminhell> dljsnvjfn
[01:21] <terminhell> that makes no sense
[01:22] <guest2> And I'm not sure where to even really look, since I'm not sure what program is throwing that error
[01:22] <RecursiveBeast> zykotick9:  check the wikipedia page for Intel Atom, it has the d2700 listed as 64 bit. I'm pretty sure that's my proc
[01:22] <guest2> I always read logs with less anyway haha
[01:22] <guest2> I'm spartan like that
[01:22] <home> i dont want a root acct.. how do i change user id so that i dont need to gksudo nautilus and do my file maintenance?
[01:22] <guest2> What do you mean file maintenance, home?
[01:22] <nerdistmonk> I just updated to pulseaudio 2.0 on xubuntu 12.04 and now i have no sound, can someone help me?
[01:22] <zykotick9> RecursiveBeast: ? i know my atom is 64bit... you'll have to verify your own.  if you can get into gnu/linux currently "cat /proc/cpuinfo" should give model info
[01:22] <home> i dont know how to whisper back.. how do i?
[01:22] <terminhell> no root account? use windo..hmm good luck
[01:22] <devxdev> he does not want to type gksu ..
[01:22] <home> ^ yes
[01:23] <terminhell> we're laughing AT you home
[01:23] <purencool> I have just install a ssh key on my git server the its  permission are set a -rw-r--r-- 1 root root rsa.pub is this a good idea?
[01:23] <guest2> I would sudo the program you use for maintenance and not nautilus. My guess is that a root nautilus will launch root processes
[01:23] <guest2> i.e. be unsafe
[01:23] <home> i dont care if i brick the box... reinstalls are nothing
[01:23] <escott> purencool, the pub is public. so yes thats safe
[01:23] <terminhell> then just always log in as root...
[01:23] <purencool> thanks
[01:24] <terminhell> but that wont solve everything
[01:24] <guest2> Speaking of root, why is it that I have to login as root to do testparm for samba?
[01:25] <guest2> If I sudo testparm > smb.conf, it fails, but if I su into root and do it, it works fine
[01:25] <terminhell> not sure
[01:25] <terminhell> su and sudo are slightly diff
[01:25] <guest2> Yea
[01:25] <terminhell> have you tried sudo -s
[01:25] <guest2> But smb.conf is owned by root. Seems like if sudo is making my effective userid root's, then it should work fie
[01:25] <guest2> Just like every other time sudo does things for you
[01:25] <nina666> wow.. i didnt get any responses ...
[01:25] <guest2> This is the only case I've seen it fail
[01:25] <nerdistmonk> I just updated to pulseaudio 2.0 on xubuntu 12.04 x64 and now i have no sound, can anyone help?
[01:25] <RecursiveBeast> zykotick9: have no OS installed at the moment, but i'll confirm shortly (downloading 12.04 x86 currently and i'll try it out)
[01:26] <genii-around> guest2: The problemmatic part is the > filenaqme
[01:26] <terminhell> nina666: on what?
[01:26] <nina666> this was my Q:
[01:26] <nina666> hi... im suffering from freezing my whole laptop... im gonna bang my head against the wall seriously!! i've already posted in the forum in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1998667 but no responses what so ever untill now... i really need some help regarding this matter as my laptop goes crazy every few minutes...
[01:26] <genii-around> guest2: sudo testparm | sudo tee -a smb.conf
[01:26] <guest2> genii-around: how so
[01:26] <guest2> oh
[01:26] <terminhell> can you nutshell the probplem/when it happens?
[01:27] <escott> guest2, sudo runs the first command as root but the > is in your current bash shell. thats why it fails. command | sudo tee -a and in many cases you might not need to say sudo command
[01:27] <guest2> ahhh. neat
[01:27] <guest2> Thanks :D
[01:27] <HoNgOuRu> can anybody help? I have 2 soundcards but only can hear one. when switching cards per application with pavucontrol I get no sound althought sound level bars move
[01:29] <sacarlson> RecursiveBeast: seems other have had this problem http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/325554-28-atom-d2700-cedar-trail  it seems to be the mother board that disables it
[01:29] <nina666> terminhell, u talking to me? :)
[01:29] <terminhell> nina666: yes
[01:29] <nerdistmonk> I just updated to pulseaudio 2.0 on xubuntu 12.04 and ive lost sound, can anybody help me?
[01:29] <RecursiveBeast> sacarlson: thanks! I thought something was weird. i'll follow up on that link
[01:30] <nina666> terminhell, i both happens when im working with my laptop as well as sometimes when its idle...
[01:30] <sacarlson> RecursiveBeast: I didn't see any way to correct it maybe later they will provide a bios flash update?
[01:30] <terminhell> nina666: what "both" happens?
[01:30] <nina666> terminhell, but not fully idle actually, i was downlowding something :D
[01:31] <nina666> terminhell, means on both working and idle status
[01:31] <terminhell> nina666: your speaking in broken sentences
[01:32] <RecursiveBeast> sacarlson: seems to be the case.... i'll have to return this board... i just bought it :(
[01:32] <terminhell> nina666: i dont understand what your asking
[01:33] <nina666> terminhell, ok sry about that. my laptop freezes from time to time. no matter what im doing, it happens. that the actual situation
[01:33] <nina666> and i've put more details on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1998667
[01:34] <kion> nina666 have you done Ctrl + Alt + F1 when that happens?
[01:34] <sacarlson> HoNgOuRu: do you have speakers pluged into your other card?
[01:34] <allquixotic_> How do I change my Ubuntu Software Center account password?
[01:34] <terminhell> sounds like a kernel panic
[01:35] <terminhell> in which ctrl alt f1 wont work either
[01:35] <nerdistmonk> anyone?
[01:35] <sacarlson> allquixotic_: that would be your admin account  you would have to add yourself to the sudo group
[01:35] <nina666> kion, the problem is, NOTHING works on it... i cant use any keys... cant get to the terminal as well..
[01:35] <terminhell> nerdistmonk: not sure man, try reinstalling it?
[01:35] <allquixotic_> sacarlson: No, I mean the account I use to authenticate with the store in order to make financial transactions in the USC.
[01:36] <sacarlson> allquixotic_: or admin group depending on the version of ubuntu you run
[01:36] <allquixotic_> sacarlson: I already know how to change my root password ;-)
[01:36] <nerdistmonk> i just installed it?
[01:36] <nina666> terminhell, exactly
[01:36] <nerdistmonk> the daemon is on, my soundcard is recognized and unmuted
[01:36] <terminhell> are you  in the audio group
[01:36] <nerdistmonk> my sound was working perfect before i upgraded
[01:36] <terminhell> nina666: have you updated recently?
[01:36] <sacarlson> allquixotic_: I'm not sure about that one,  maybe the ubuntuone account?
[01:37] <allquixotic_> sacarlson: I think you're right; it probably IS the Ubuntu One account! But I'll have to find out how to change that password somehow :)
[01:37] <nina666> terminhell, yes, i think i've done that at least 3 times yesterday to make sure i got everything! :D
[01:37] <HoNgOuRu> sacarlson, I have speakers in the one Im hearing now, and headphones on the other one, and they are not playing any sound. both worked fine 2 days ago
[01:37] <terminhell> nina666: ram upgrades eh? could be issues there
[01:38] <allquixotic_> ah...
[01:38] <terminhell> if you didnt get the right kind, or of different sizes or w/e
[01:38] <allquixotic_> sacarlson: For the future, I found it. https://login.ubuntu.com
[01:38] <allquixotic_> sacarlson: I can change my password there :D
[01:38] <RecursiveBeast> sacarlson:  after reading the entire thread, it seems like it's not a mainboard issue, but rather that Intel is telling the mainboard manufacturors to disable 64bit support b/c Intel hasn't made any 64bit drivers for the atom chip... am i getting that right?
[01:38] <allquixotic_> affects launchpad (if you use Ubuntu SSO to sign in to launchpad); affects ubuntu one; affects the ubuntu software center
[01:38] <nina666> terminhell, i had this problem even before the RAM, then i thought maybe my memory is insufficient, so upgraded and it got worse.. but the point is, i had it before also...
[01:38] <sacarlson> HoNgOuRu: might try swap speaker for headphone, not lickly but sometimes I forget I turned down the volume on the wire of my headphones or someone else has played with it
[01:39] <nina666> terminhell, and i ran the memtest, seemed to be fine..
[01:39] <terminhell> nina666: not sure, honestly, it could be so many different factors. From overheating to kernel blacklisting issues
[01:40] <sacarlson> RecursiveBeast: ya but they must disable it by something in the bios flash, so at some point they will probly update the flash to enable it
[01:40] <nina666> terminhell, thanks for trying anyways :( im so stuck..
[01:40] <samisheikh> hi can anyone help me with xbmc and audio issues?
[01:40] <HoNgOuRu> sacarlson, 2 hours ago I had  this same problem and I uninstalled pulse and alsa and reinstalled them. after that soundcards switched now headphones are not working and speakers do work. 2 hours ago it was the other way around.
[01:40] <sacarlson> RecursiveBeast: or maybe a jumper setting?
[01:41] <RecursiveBeast> sacarlson:  4GB of RAM should be sufficient for this little IDS/IPS i'm setting up (for my house, yea it's overkill but i'm paranoid). Thanks for finding that link for me!!!!
[01:41] <terminhell> nina666: is your hdd in good health? what does disk manager show in the SMART data?
[01:42] <RecursiveBeast> sacarlson: didn't see anything in the mainboard manual about that but i can check
[01:42] <sacarlson> RecursiveBeast: with all those people looking at the problem and not finding a solution it doesn't sound lickly you will find one soon
[01:43] <nina666> terminhell, mmm thats a good question... let me run smart ctl
[01:43] <sacarlson> RecursiveBeast: I would check the manufacture of the moutherboard for a bios flash update, if none then live with 32bit is ok if you have 4gb mem or less
[01:43] <RecursiveBeast> sacarlson: agreed. nothing in the jumper section of the manual about a 64bit switch
[01:44] <sacarlson> RecursiveBeast: I have a 64bit cpu and still run 32bit system
[01:44] <RecursiveBeast> sacarlson: i'll do that. btw the board tops out at 4GB anyway (it's mini-itx)
[01:45] <sacarlson> RecursiveBeast: oh then almost no performance diff will be acheaved with 64bit
[01:45] <escott> sacarlson, not entirely true. 64bit does have more registers which could help some workloads
[01:46] <HoNgOuRu> sacarlson,  fixed... don't know how but the "default" sound card was muted at startup, that explains why the other card wasnt working before uninstalling pulse
[01:46] <HoNgOuRu> sacarlson,  thank u.
[01:46] <crash_ovv> hey.. i just bought a lenovo g 570 nd when i ubuntu in it .. no audio drivers are found .. what should i do..?
[01:46] <sacarlson> escott: RecursiveBeast: this maybe true if your do gene splicing or ???
[01:47] <samisheikh> anybody experienced with xbmc here?
[01:47] <crash_ovv> its got a conexant chipset
[01:47] <ecr> Hi. I just installed 12.04 in my professor
[01:47] <ecr> 's netbook through Windows. How can I access the Windows filesystem through Ubuntu?
[01:48] <RecursiveBeast> escott: RecursiveBeast: i'll probably refrain from doing gene splicing on my little atom box.... however IPv6 addresses will be looked at and those won't fit into one 32 bit register... just a thought
[01:48] <Eugene_Lee> hello
[01:48] <crash_ovv> hiii
[01:48] <Guest10989> ubuntu contact me on the phone if u return
[01:48] <nina666> terminhell, ok i just installed it, it says passed. but should i perform a test?
[01:48] <sacarlson> escott: I can say that I did run 64bit on this same box with ubuntu 8.04 and had no noticable improvment in performance but many more problems at that time for 64bit support
[01:49] <terminhell> nina666: cant hurt
[01:50] <crash_ovv> hey
[01:51] <nina666> terminhell, ok thats done with no errors...
[01:51] <crash_ovv> hey.. i just bought a lenovo g 570 nd when i ubuntu in it .. no audio drivers are found .. what should i do..?
[01:51] <crash_ovv> ???
[01:51] <nina666> terminhell, and btw, when i run htop, my load average is above 1, with really minimal usage... right now i only have xchat, opera, and a terminal!
[01:52] <sacarlson> crash_ovv: I thought conexant made modem chips,  you sure that's the sound chip?
[01:52] <crash_ovv> yes...
[01:52] <terminhell> nina666: what kernel are you using?
[01:53] <sacarlson> crash_ovv: well there sound card must suck as much as there modems,  took me days just to get one of there modem chips to work
[01:53] <nina666> terminhell, uname -a gives: Linux Vaio 3.2.0-24-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 21 16:52:17 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:53] <ecr> I installed 12.04 in a netbook with Wubi. Is there a way to access the Windows filesystem through Ubuntu?
[01:53] <terminhell> nina666: ya that was a buggy kernel for me too
[01:53] <escott> ecr, if you dont see it its probably been blocked for safety reasons
[01:53] <Malsasa> Hello, i wanna create an app in C, which every Ctrl or Alt or F1-F12 pressed, that app can take it as an input/command and do something. I am using Ubuntu. An example for that is nano application. How can I do it?
[01:53] <Malsasa> I am using Geany as IDE.
[01:54] <ecr> escott: Blocked by what? How do I unblock it?
[01:54] <kion> ecr yes
[01:54] <kion> ecr no problem
[01:54] <nina666> terminhell, sht... what should i do then?
[01:54] <terminhell> wait for ubuntu to catch up
[01:54] <crash_ovv> i kno.. but i cant change the sound chip can i?
[01:54] <crash_ovv> :'(
[01:54] <garry2080> is there a lst kernel available in the ubuntu repos (sorry i am so lazy to check) ?
[01:54] <nina666> terminhell, and force reset my laptop 3 times per hour? :D
[01:54] <escott> ecr, it may be (probably is) unsafe to access the ntfs containing the wubi loopback
[01:55] <terminhell> nina666: switch distros?
[01:55] <sacarlson> Malsasa: as I always do create a print line in your code and see what codes come out of the keyboard when you hit them
[01:55] <ecr> escott: Is there a way I can do this?
[01:55] <escott> ecr, i dont think you understand. its unsafe. its not allowed.
[01:55] <nina666> terminhell, which distro is better now u think?
[01:55] <Malsasa> sacarlson: oooh simply like that? Oh thank you....
[01:56] <garry2080> hello, anyone here ?
[01:56] <ecr> escott: Can I do the opposite, access the Ubuntu file system through Windows?
[01:56] <Malsasa> sacarlson: can you give me a simple code?
[01:56] <Zeelot> terminhell: thanks, found the file I needed
[01:56] <terminhell> nina666: well without starting a war, the closest to ubuntu now would be Mint, but their packages are even further behind, worth a shot, otherwise try fedora 17
[01:56] <terminhell> Zeelot: cool, where was it?
[01:56] <Zeelot> .local/share/SuperMeatBoy/UserData
[01:56] <nina666> terminhell, thanks alot, helped alot :)
[01:56] <escott> if you install the ext4 drivers for windows and can figure out how to do loopback mounts in windows
[01:56] <sacarlson> Malsasa: there are docs with tables that also show them but looking at it with code you see the real thing,  print in hex might be better
[01:57] <terminhell> Zeelot: cool beans man, did ya fix it"?
[01:57] <crash_ovv> sacarlson so what driver should i use?
[01:57] <neothecat> hello.  i just booted into the 12.04 live disk, and none of the login/password choices i searched for online worked (blank login/password, ubuntu/blank, ubuntu/ubuntu).  what is the correct login/password?  thank you.
[01:57] <Zeelot> yeah just deleted the file and it worked
[01:57] <kion> terminhell Take a look as penguy
[01:57] <Malsasa> sacarlson: where the docs?
[01:57] <kion> terminhell it is a nice distro based on ubuntu
[01:57] <sacarlson> crash_ovv: I didn't see a pastebinit of your lshw so I have no info to work with
[01:58] <terminhell> kion: ya ive heard of it, i Arch myself, but ya, #archlinux isn't the neediest of places...
[01:59] <sacarlson> Malsasa: http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/kbd/scancodes-1.html
[01:59] <ecr> escott: Can you give me a link?
[01:59] <escott> ecr, no i dont know it
[01:59] <sacarlson> Malsasa: when you look at the output of your code you will see that there are key on key off
[01:59] <Malsasa> sacarlson: can I do it with sscanf?
[01:59] <ecr> escott: OK. Thanks for your help.
[02:00] <Malsasa> sacarlson: your link GREAT!
[02:00] <Malsasa> Thank you.
[02:00] <genii-around> ecr: http://askubuntu.com/questions/86586/accessing-windows-partition-inside-wubi
[02:00] <genii-around> Hm, too late
[02:01] <sacarlson> Malsasa: dam you want me to write the code for you?  here http://www.thelinuxdaily.com/2010/05/grab-raw-keyboard-input-from-event-device-node-devinputevent/
[02:01] <crash_ovv> sacarlson i m currently running on windows so how should i get lshw?
[02:02] <Malsasa> sacarlson: oh no, just the command to doit, whether scanf or what. Just that.
[02:02] <sacarlson> crash_ovv: boot a live cd and copy the results of lshw to a usb flash would be one method
[02:03] <iwan> hooi
[02:03] <crash_ovv> ok...
[02:03] <sacarlson> Malsasa: well look at the code I gave you and find out
[02:03] <Malsasa> sacarlson: okay
[02:03] <Malsasa> I just want to create a simple app but has a simple interface like nano.
[02:04] <sacarlson> Malsasa: cool,  don't give up.  I'm sure you can do it
[02:04] <Malsasa> sacarlson: thank you. Your answer was so kind...
[02:05] <haylo> Malsasa, i would think that is coded in C
[02:05] <yan> ni hao
[02:06] <haylo> im all about writing light wieght and unix friendly C apps. its awesome Malsasa
[02:06] <yan> zhelimianyouenma
[02:07] <sacarlson> Malsasa  I think haylo: is correct, you might just look at the nano code and just modify that to your needs
[02:07] <Malsasa> haylo: thank you.... can you give me a simple code for accepting Ctrl+O as save command, in example?
[02:07] <Malsasa> sacarlson: wah, thank you...
[02:07] <haylo> yeah id try to modify nano for that
[02:07] <switch10_> what was gnome-open replaced with?
[02:07] <haylo> there ar egreat you tube tutorials on coding in C Malsasa
[02:08] <sacarlson> haylo: but I think Malsasa is in the  learning mode and you have to have a project to learn something.  you can't just read others code to learn some things
[02:08] <tjayh913> hmm, fixed broken ownership on home/newusername but I still can't log into newusername
[02:09] <Malsasa> sacarlson: waah, thank you. Okay, i wanna do it.
[02:09] <home> thats awefully strange...
[02:09] <Malsasa> haylo: thank you for inform me...
[02:09] <yan> no thank
[02:09] <sacarlson> tjayh913: forget that password?
[02:09] <yan> no
[02:10] <yan> i remeber
[02:10] <bazhang> !cn | yan
[02:11] <tjayh913> sacarlson, no, I can even login through tty, just when I try to log in through GUI it takes me to a black screen for a moment before returning to the login screen again
[02:12] <sacarlson> tjayh913: look in the /var/log/systlog file to find out why
[02:12] <sacarlson> syslog
[02:12] <guest2> A semester of Chinese with probably one of the best foreign language teachers I've ever had, and I can't read any of that haha
[02:13] <sacarlson> tjayh913: like maybe the user no longer had permisions in his own home directory?
[02:13] <phunyguy> tjayh913: Sounds like corrupt profile (not sure if that was said before). /var/log/syslog should help, but it will probably boil down to a messed up .config or .gconf
[02:14] <junkyeard> where am i??
[02:14] <phunyguy> in hell.
[02:15] <sacarlson> phunyguy if in tjayh913 case he can't even tty or ssh in then I'm not sure it's .gconf  but like you said syslog should make it clear
[02:15] <Malsasa> haylo and sacarlson: how to do search with terminal when i wanna find a string "Ctrl+" in a folder containing many .c files?
[02:15] <phunyguy> sacarlson: he said he CAN, not CANT
[02:15] <tjayh913> sacarlson, no I can tty, I have a window logged into it now
[02:16] <phunyguy> and normally with bad permissions, it tells you it cant get to /home/$user
[02:16] <phunyguy> in this case, something crashes and it logs out
[02:16] <traci> ubuntu
[02:16] <yan> how to get it
[02:17] <phunyguy> tjayh913: rename your .config and .gconf2
[02:17] <phunyguy> and try to login
[02:17] <yan> why i can,t get it
[02:17] <escott> Malsasa, grep
[02:18] <Malsasa> escott: can you give me an example?
[02:18] <traci> i had a background image switcher installed but reinstalled ubuntu and now i cannot remember what the name was... i installed it from synaptec or ubuntu software center... unfortunately it has been a long day... anyhow... can someone recommend a background switcher that will switch images from a specified folder?
[02:18] <escott> Malsasa, grep pattern filename
[02:18] <sacarlson> phunyguy: oh CAN ya then you were probly correct
[02:18] <trism> Malsasa: if you are looking at the nano code, you'll probably be interested in terminal_init and do_input in nano.c (not really on topic to the channel though)
[02:18] <Malsasa> escott: okay okay. Where can i get tutorial for grep?
[02:19] <traci> found it
[02:19] <traci> thanks
[02:19] <tjayh913> I am debating whether this account is even worth recovering or just rebuilding
[02:19] <traci> desktop nova
[02:19] <Malsasa> trism: you know i need it :D thank you.
[02:19] <escott> Malsasa, all over the place. any standard unix command line tutorial will include it
[02:20] <nerdistmonk> what happens when you set the sample rate in pulseaudio higher than what the sound is designed to do?
[02:20] <phunyguy> tjayh913: best way to go about that I think, rename the /home/$user folder and relogin.  cant remember if that failed or not
[02:20] <phunyguy> then copy your stuff it it works
[02:20] <phunyguy> if it*
[02:20] <Malsasa> escott: thanks, but can you give me a link to a very subjective tutorial? :)
[02:20] <phunyguy> i do remember there may have been a setting to auto-create folders on new login, but that may have been KDE
[02:21] <airlynx> How do I clear my DNS cache?  I've updated my DNS records to my new domain over 6 hours ago and the site pulls up correctly on my cellphone, but not in Ubuntu (12.04)
[02:21] <phunyguy> airlynx: that cache may reside on your router or ISP
[02:21] <mouse> I'm trying to install a package but I keep getting a dependency error.  It says it needs ia32-libs but the version of ia32-libs I have installed is the most recent.  Is there something else I need to do to setup ia32-libs so the system can make use of it?
[02:22] <phunyguy> mouse: is it coming from a 3rd party repo?
[02:22] <iliri> ?
[02:22] <airlynx> phunyguy: I was afraid of that
[02:22] <mouse> phunyguy The package I'm trying to install is coming from the humble bundle.
[02:24] <HelloWorld123> I'm having trouble with my nVidia drivers since the upgrade to Pangolin.  Should I use this to remove the old drivers: sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates ?   How does ppa-purge work?
[02:24] <phunyguy> mouse what is the humble bundle?
[02:24] <tjayh913> so what were these two files that I am supposed to try renaming, IRC crashed on me
[02:24] <iliri> help i there
[02:24] <phunyguy> and i feel that issue may reside with that
[02:24] <phunyguy> if it is 3rd party
[02:24] <iliri> is acound
[02:24] <xangua> !ppa-purge | HelloWorld123
[02:24] <iliri> is shells
[02:24] <HelloWorld123> tx xangua
[02:25] <HelloWorld123> Xangua, so it looks like that's right: sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[02:25] <phunyguy> tjayh913: .config and .gconf2 - they are folders
[02:25] <phunyguy> or you can just do your whole home folder
[02:25] <phunyguy> /home/$user
[02:25] <phunyguy> i am tempted to test it myself
[02:25] <HelloWorld123> Xangua: looks like no.  It said Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: ubuntu-x-swat x-updates ... or maybe I've already gotten it purged.
[02:25] <HelloWorld123> I've been round and round on this
[02:26] <phunyguy> but you have to do the whole folder from root account
[02:26] <phunyguy> so "sudo passwd root", change the password
[02:26] <phunyguy> then login as root at the shell
[02:26] <xangua> HelloWorld123: if by purged you mean removed the ppa line, that will not remove the packages that installed
[02:26] <tjayh913> so try renaming the home folder to my username again?
[02:26] <Phiscribe> ppa's are evil
[02:26] <mouse> phunyguy www.humblebundle.com  It's a really neat setup and a good way to try indie games on linux.  It's not really a repo though.
[02:27] <phunyguy> tjayh913: no just make it different than what it is
[02:27] <HelloWorld123> oic.  Tx Xangua.
[02:27] <HelloWorld123> I'm following http://www.hecticgeek.com/2011/10/how-to-install-latest-proprietary-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[02:27] <phunyguy> then copy your stuff to the newly created profile.  once you are satisfied, delete the old one
[02:28] <HelloWorld123> How do I remove the installed package, then?
[02:28] <phunyguy> if your profile is /home/tjayh913, then make it /home/tjayh913_
[02:28] <phunyguy> etc.
[02:28] <xangua> HelloWorld123: add the ppa line again and run ppa-purge
[02:29] <phunyguy> sacarlson: does it make your apt-get perform differently?
[02:29] <phunyguy> sorry meant that for mouse maybe?
[02:29] <sacarlson> tjayh913  ya as phunyguy says I've had similar instance and that has worked for me
[02:29] <HelloWorld123> use this to add the ppa line again?  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[02:29] <phunyguy> nope i got the person right
[02:29]  * iliri bye bye all
[02:29]  * iliri bye bye all
[02:30] <tjayh913> I renamed it to a third version of my username and made no difference
[02:30] <tjayh913> and appears to have correct ownership this time
[02:30] <phunyguy> tjayh913: have you done this already?
[02:30]  * iliri bye bye all
[02:31] <phunyguy> iliri: wtf are you doing
[02:31] <bazhang> iliri, stop that
[02:31] <sacarlson> tjayh913: since I didn't know what file in the account was causing the problem I just moved the home dir and create a new one and copied the files into it
[02:31] <phunyguy> leavd.. lol
[02:31] <phunyguy> leave*
[02:31] <Dotman14> Devon!!!!
[02:32] <sacarlson> phunyguy he did it already?  maybe he copied the problem back into the dir?
[02:32] <HelloWorld123> btw, I'm currently running the desktop in 640x480, so I can pretty much view just one window at a time, and barely that.
[02:33] <phunyguy> sacarlson: maybe
[02:34] <Darkenvy> help! I need MySQL up on Ubuntu-Jaunty fast. The Jaunty repos are broken: http://paste2.org/p/2048338
[02:34] <sacarlson> phunyguy tjayh913 make sure you don't copy the files back into the new /home/dir untill after you verify the account is working
[02:34] <Darkenvy> my Jaunty sources.list : http://paste2.org/p/2048339
[02:34] <phunyguy> yes tjayh913, i meant to only copy important things like music and documents
[02:34] <avoider> Hey guys, I need some help! i tried to install Ubuntu on a older spare computer Dell Dimention B110 and i get a Kernel Error any ideas?
[02:34] <bazhang> Darkenvy, upgrade to a supported version. jaunty is eol
[02:34] <Darkenvy> cant. VPN that I have no choice with
[02:35] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | Darkenvy
[02:35] <bazhang> Darkenvy, its Not supported here.
[02:35] <avoider> Says it requires an x86-64 cpu but only dectected an i686 cpu  any ideas?
[02:35] <phunyguy> Darkenvy: EOL means EOL.  No support.
[02:35] <smw> Darkenvy, Jaunty EOLed october 2010
[02:35] <Darkenvy> Okay, pretend I have ubuntu 11. What repo has MySQL in it?
[02:35] <sacarlson> Darkenvy: I think that's a end of life version of ubuntu
[02:35] <tjayh913> I only really created the account last night, so I am just going to keep it as a terminal online admin account
[02:35] <phunyguy> avoider, download 32 bit
[02:35] <bazhang> Darkenvy, no. stop asking for support here
[02:35] <tjayh913> and will now instead work on getting new account to equivalent permissions
[02:35] <Dotman14> Anyone help me with how to install applications on Ubuntu Linux?
[02:36] <Phiscribe> avoider, is it a 32 bit or 64 bit cpu, try the 32 bit if you havent already
[02:36] <xangua> Darkenvy: or upgrade to a supported ubuntu version
[02:36] <sacarlson> Darkenvy: they all have mysql in them but they will be compiled on different libs
[02:36] <avoider> phunyguy: Thank you very much.
[02:36] <bazhang> !software | Dotman14
[02:36] <avoider> phunyguy: yes i only downloaded 64bit
[02:36] <phunyguy> avoider, that cpu doesnt support 64 bit
[02:36] <HelloWorld123> Since that other article didn't cover purging my old nVidia drivers, I'm switching over to following http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-nvidia-drivers-manually-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[02:36] <iliri> !Equivalents
[02:37] <iliri> !Packages
[02:37] <sacarlson> Darkenvy: you can just upgrade and import your mysql files into a new version
[02:37] <bazhang> iliri, /msg ubottu
[02:37] <iliri> !Adept,
[02:37] <smw> Darkenvy, http://www.warpconduit.net/2011/07/31/apt-repository-for-old-ubuntu-releases/
[02:37] <avoider> phunyguy: Okay ill download the correct image thanks again bro.
[02:37] <phunyguy> np
[02:37] <Darkenvy> last time I upgraded my system crashed every 2 hours
[02:37] <tq|Memphis> how many of you using ubuntu as virtual os?
[02:37] <Darkenvy> and I was surprisingly not able to get help here after several visits
[02:37] <phunyguy> Darkenvy: sorry
[02:38] <sacarlson> Darkenvy: ya I hate to upgrade too, I still run 10.04 because of it
[02:38] <iliri> !Adept, "apt-cache search
[02:38] <Dotman14> Thanks ubottu
[02:38] <Darkenvy> lol :P
[02:38] <Darkenvy> I JUST updated my home computer from 10.04 to 12.04
[02:38] <bazhang> iliri, /msg ubottu    stop that
[02:38] <HelloWorld123> what's the ls command to query your videa card?
[02:38] <johnu> you guys help with backtrack also?
[02:38] <phunyguy> someone kick iliri
[02:38] <smw> Darkenvy, check out old releases
[02:38] <Phiscribe> distro upgrades stress me out, thats why i gave it up, just clear install anymore
[02:38] <smw> Darkenvy, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/
[02:38] <bazhang> johnu no. #backtrack-linux
[02:38] <Phiscribe> clean i meant
[02:38] <johnu> thanks
[02:39] <smw> Darkenvy, it is all still there ;-)
[02:39] <johnu> wtf @ banned
[02:39] <sacarlson> Darkenvy: if you never want to upgrade then you at least need to make a recoverable backup
[02:39] <Darkenvy> smw, im not sure I know how to use http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/ by itself
[02:39] <blackshirt> Phiscribe, i think ubuntu not follow debian policy for upgrade...you would get stuck'maybe
[02:40] <HelloWorld123> lspci
[02:40] <smw> Darkenvy, convert security.ubuntu.com to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[02:40] <smw> Darkenvy, do that for every url
[02:40] <smw> x.ubuntu.com to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[02:40] <johnhambl> any idea why im banned from backtrack-linux channel? ive never been there in my life lol
[02:40] <airlynx> whew, got it, after checking 'host' in a terminal it listed the correct host there, went to Firefox and cleared all my browsing history/files/cookies/and everything else it finally came up correctly
[02:41] <phillip69> every time that i go to wicd and try to connect wireless
[02:41] <OerHeks> johnhambl, we don't know, ask in #freenode
[02:41] <smw> Darkenvy, however, I warn you that you need to upgrade
[02:42] <smw> Darkenvy, you are no longer getting security updates
[02:42] <Darkenvy> how bad would it be for Jaunty-to-12.04?
[02:42] <Darkenvy> server might I add. This is for a gaming server
[02:42] <smw> Darkenvy, and by upgrade... I mean reinstall. I do not think I would want to upgrade that much.
[02:42] <sacarlson> Darkenvy: ya I was hacked with old version of oscomerce because there was a big whole that bots look for
[02:43] <Darkenvy> I cannot reinstall. this is a VPN with a pre-install option.
[02:43] <smw> Darkenvy, I assume you mean VPS
[02:43] <smw> Darkenvy, you can't reinstall?
[02:43] <Darkenvy> yes VPS. I also have a VPN so I miscommunitated :P
[02:43] <Darkenvy> no I cannot. if I reinstall it will be jaunty again
[02:44] <smw> that you have a horrible VPS service
[02:44] <Darkenvy> 123systems.net
[02:44] <smw> then*
[02:44] <smw> Darkenvy, they don't have a newer one to install?
[02:44] <Darkenvy> no. they have OLDER versions to choose from
[02:45] <Darkenvy> how bad would it be to upgrade this many versions? it IS a fresh install by the way
[02:45] <smw> Darkenvy, It would be pretty bad
[02:45] <smw> you could use Hardy (8.04)
[02:45] <smw> Hardy is not EOL yet
[02:46] <Darkenvy> which is jaunty?
[02:46] <smw> Darkenvy, 9.04
[02:46] <HelloWorld123> Well I dunno why I was so sure that I had nVidia ... lspci says that I have Intel Corporation 82G965 Integrated
[02:46] <yeats> Darkenvy: jaunty - karmic - lucid would get you to a newer LTS at least
[02:46] <donvito2> ubuntu desktop or server is better?
[02:47] <Darkenvy> which is the shortest jump upgrade? I JUST finished my file transfers :S
[02:47] <smw> donvito2, depends what you plan to do
[02:47] <Darkenvy> and how can I selectivly upgrade?
[02:47] <smw> donvito2, if you have to ask, I would assume desktop
[02:47] <OerHeks> donvito, those are 2 different usage
[02:47] <blackshirt> Donvito2, it's depend your need
[02:47] <donvito2> im planing to make poker machine slots
[02:47] <yeats> Darkenvy: both jaunty and karmic are eol, so even with old-releases the upgrade might be dicey
[02:48] <Darkenvy> yikes
[02:48] <smw> Darkenvy, 8.04 is not EOL yet. I think it is your best option
[02:48] <jagginess> !avi
[02:48] <Darkenvy> a downgrade?
[02:48] <OerHeks> !upgrade | Darkenvy
[02:48] <yeats> Darkenvy: I would seriously complain to your service provider - it's not like Ubuntu ISOs cost anything
[02:48] <smw> Darkenvy, an upgrade to a supported system :-P
[02:49] <smw> yeats, no, but making a VPS image does
[02:49] <smw> Darkenvy, I would certainly complain though
[02:49] <yeats> meh
[02:49] <smw> god only knows how they stay in business
[02:49] <OerHeks> Darkenvy, it is not an ubuntu issue that your VPS images are out of date.
[02:49]  * iliri bye bye all
[02:49] <Darkenvy> okay thanks everyone for your help
[02:50] <smw> Darkenvy, you know amazon gives out free servers, right? :-P
[02:50] <awpti> He's trying to run a minecraft server.
[02:50] <awpti> Their free offering won't work, IIRC.
[02:50] <|Trend|> q: is SSD trim enabled by default in ubuntu desktop ?
[02:50] <smw> awpti, micros can't handle minecraft?
[02:50] <HelloWorld123> The Intel driver documentation says that most linux distro's come with an Intel driver, and that I should use the driver included with my distro.  How do I do that?
[02:51] <smw> awpti, that would not overly surprise me...
[02:51] <Darkenvy> smw, cant host my game on amazon :P
[02:51] <OerHeks>  no Trend, add discard to the grub startupline
[02:51] <awpti> smw, sadly, no.
[02:51] <awpti> Not enough memory, for one.. and the cpu is attrocious.
[02:51] <sacarlson> HelloWorld123: in most cases it's done automagicaly
[02:51] <awpti> MC is a giant, retarded pig on both fronts.
[02:52] <smw> awpti, lol, I underestimated minecraft's bloat
[02:52] <awpti> smw, you can run it inside 512M, but you won't get more than 2-3 people on.. and that's with no plugins or extended features.
[02:52] <HelloWorld123> I totally wish.  It was done automagically when I originally installed Natty.  The upgrade to Ocelot broke it.  I did a fresh install and Ocelot turned out okay.  The upgrade to Pangolin broke it again.  I'm hoping to fix the driver instead of doing a fresh install.
[02:53] <Darkenvy> omg, I swear, there was NOT a 10.04 option on the purchase screen. it was 9.04 was the latest option. 10.04 is still supported?
[02:53] <Darkenvy> oh wait there is 11.04
[02:54] <HelloWorld123> I should be totally qualified to do this, since I'm a java developer at a Mac shop.  And if I can, then I won't have to do a full install or restore my backups.  How hard could it be?
[02:54] <Darkenvy> (it was not my stupidity I swear lol) thnks guys
[02:54] <yeats> Darkenvy: I would go with 10.04 - supported through 2015
[02:55] <HelloWorld123> If I had done a fresh install, I would have been done already.
[02:56] <HelloWorld123> I just really think its better to educate myself.
[02:56] <xangua> yeats: Darkenvy only the server, the desktop untill april 2013
[02:56] <Darkenvy> crap, already went with 11.04, however I only choose to be with them for a year or so
[02:56] <Zephyrusuo> hey yeats when does the next lts come out
[02:57] <yeats> !lts
[02:57] <dyingloop> Hello i recently purchased an usb wifi adapter for my laptop. I received a CD with linux drivers for the adapter it's a zipped file. I have no idea how to install the drivers.
[02:57] <Darkenvy> lts for 11.04 server?
[02:57] <Zephyrusuo> that didnt help sorry
[02:57] <Darkenvy> *support duration?
[02:57] <Zephyrusuo> how long is 10.04 supported on desktop?
[02:57] <yeats> Zephyrusuo: 14.04
[02:57] <Zephyrusuo> thank you
[02:57] <Darkenvy> (whats with the .04 thing anyways?)
[02:58] <Darkenvy> !.04
[02:58] <Zephyrusuo> ok sound great
[02:58] <Zephyrusuo> fourth mounth of year
[02:58] <yeats> Zephyrusuo: please note that the Ubuntu website has plenty of information like that ;-)
[02:58] <Phiscribe> whats wrong with 12.04 again Darkenvy?
[02:58] <Darkenvy> !!! ooooh
[02:58] <Zephyrusuo> yah but im lazy
[02:58] <Darkenvy> lol ooops triggered the bot
[02:58] <Zephyrusuo> and you helped that guy
[02:58] <Zephyrusuo> so..
[02:59] <Zephyrusuo> well you just sold me to go with 10.04 as graphics drivers in 12.04 dont work with card
[02:59] <yeats> Zephyrusuo: that doesn't encourage me, I'm afraid
[02:59] <Phiscribe> checking the restricted drivers, via ubunut, sometimes can get a wireless card to work
[02:59] <Phiscribe> first thing to try
[02:59] <Phiscribe> or even a wired nic
[03:00] <HelloWorld123> I'm able to get the desktop by using ctrl-alt-f1, and running startx from the command line.  Does this look like the line I need?  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[03:01] <HelloWorld123> from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[03:01] <sacarlson> dyingloop: did you plug it in?  it might already work
[03:01] <dyingloop> It's plugged in
[03:02] <GoodOldJacob> ciigsima
[03:02] <sacarlson> dyingloop: ok does it work?
[03:02] <dyingloop> Nope
[03:02] <GoodOldJacob> Whoops sorry, wrong channel =P
[03:02] <dyingloop> I don't see any SSIDs
[03:02] <sacarlson> dyingloop: why not?  can the device be seen?  lsusb;
[03:02] <xxx> hello room
[03:02] <dyingloop> oh wait
[03:03] <dyingloop> I'll be really pissed
[03:03] <HelloWorld123> Is "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" going to log me out of this chat?
[03:03] <dyingloop> it's working
[03:03] <sacarlson> dyingloop: ya it helps to try it
[03:03] <dyingloop> Boy this is pretty weird
[03:03] <Darkenvy> "PTY allocation request failed on channel 0"
[03:03] <dyingloop> my built-in wireless card had hit or miss drivers by realtek
[03:04] <dyingloop> and it wouldn't work for the life of me
[03:04] <dyingloop> so i ordered a separate usb adapter!
[03:04] <dyingloop> now
[03:04] <dyingloop> after plugging it in
[03:04] <dyingloop> both work!
[03:04] <HelloWorld123> sudo: /etc/init.d/gdm: command not found
[03:04] <jagginess> gnome-tweak-tool doesnt seem to change my default multimediaplayer.. which package or command changes this , anyone?
[03:04] <dyingloop> goodness it's magic scarlson
[03:04] <HelloWorld123> I didn't expect that
[03:05] <jagginess> HelloWorld123, no, it's lightdm (from 11.10+)
[03:05] <sacarlson> HelloWorld123: I guess the new version changed the name?
[03:05] <dyingloop> no wait..it was a glitch
[03:06] <dyingloop> just the new one works
[03:06] <dyingloop> :(
[03:06] <HelloWorld123> actually, I think I started the desktop with startx ... is that completely different than gdm?
[03:06] <sacarlson> dyingloop: no need for two they will just conflict, disable the old one in bios
[03:06] <HelloWorld123> These google sites are often a release or two behind
[03:06] <jagginess> HelloWorld123, what version ubuntu is it
[03:06] <dyingloop> yeah i thought both were workig, but it's only one
[03:07] <dyingloop> apparently once i plug in my usb adapter
[03:07] <HelloWorld123> I've upgraded to Pangolin from Ocelot, and the upgrade trashed my video driver
[03:07] <dyingloop> both the adapters work
[03:07] <dyingloop> strange
[03:07] <jagginess> dyingloop, yah, we we heard you.. so what..
[03:07] <dyingloop> sorry just excited
[03:07] <HelloWorld123> There, I see it jagginess: lightdm ... I'm running in 640x480 so I don't alwatys see everything
[03:07] <jagginess> and my computer turns on.
[03:08] <dyingloop> heh indeed
[03:08] <dyingloop> thanks!
[03:08] <jagginess> HelloWorld123, you definitely have e-did (wikipedia e-did), failing.. sounds like a driver issue (or a poor cable can cause this)
[03:09] <jagginess> ,/var/log/Xorg.0.log would say if e-did failed
[03:09] <jagginess> ok now.. if only if i can get .avi to play on this..
[03:11] <jgalt> I just experienced a kernel panic.  machine dropped to text mode and appears to have locked up.  any way I can save off anything for later analysis of a crash dump?
[03:11] <jagginess> (actually .avi works :)
[03:11] <jagginess> lol
[03:11] <BarkingFish> Morning guys :)  Quick question for you: I don't want pulseaudio downloaded on here, and everytime I update my system, it gets put back on. Is there any way to manually block pulseaudio from being downloaded during updates?
[03:11] <jagginess> dam i'm good
[03:12] <gry> BarkingFish: What distribution?
[03:12] <BarkingFish> gry - Kubuntu 12.04
[03:12] <BarkingFish> I am only asking here cause #kubuntu is utterly dead this time of night :)
[03:12] <BarkingFish> i'd be pretty sure if it works on here, it will work on Kubuntu too :)
[03:13] <DocPlatypus> I've done my research on this and pretty much just want to confirm what I've found. have any viruses, worms, etc of any significant scale ever been found "in the wild" that attack Ubuntu or any other GNU/Linux system?
[03:13] <BarkingFish> The only reason I don't want pulseaudio on here is that it messes my mixer up in KDE, so that I don't have control over everything, and it messes my sound up entirely.
[03:14] <BarkingFish> I need to see every available channel in my mixer, for remixing audio, controlling mic and capture, etc
[03:14] <DocPlatypus> KDE is still aRts based isn't it?
[03:14] <HelloWorld123> jagginess: thanks for that.  I did not know that logfile was there.  It seems that I'm done messing with this tonight.  What do the numbers in that logfile mean?  I have stuff at 119 talking about nVidia failing, and then stuff at 120 talking about Intel loading okay, and I have Intel.  What does the 119 & 120 indicate?
[03:15] <BarkingFish> no, we don't use arts or artsd - but by knocking out pulseaudio, I can go alsa only
[03:15] <jagginess> BarkingFish, there's plugins for pulseaudio, (there's alsa plugin for pulseaudio, it may already be there but not enabled)
[03:15] <jongbergs> Hi, I was experimenting with ubuntu packages thru commandline. What command allows you to query the Description of a specific package?
[03:15] <BarkingFish> jagginess: the plugins are no help, which is why I simply take pulseaudio off, rather than fiddle with things which don't actually help :)
[03:16] <BarkingFish> it would be 100* easier if i could simply stop it coming on in the first place
[03:16] <ihashacks> jongbergs: apt-cache show packagename
[03:16] <jagginess> BarkingFish, maybe you should check if you're using a ~/.asoundrc file.. or if you have 2 soundcards, simply blacklist the one you don't use..
[03:17] <BarkingFish> jagginess: I have one sound card, and I don't have a .asoundrc file either.
[03:17] <jongbergs> ihashacks: But I only want the Description..nothing else..
[03:17] <xangua> BarkingFish: do you have the kubuntu-metapackage installed¿ if you uninstall pulse i guess the metapackage is the one that installs it again
[03:17] <trism> jongbergs: dpkg-query -Wf '${Description}\n' package_name;
[03:17] <BarkingFish> You're leading me round the houses, to doors I've already knocked on, jagginess :)
[03:18] <Valiant54616> Can NortonGhost (or similar) clone harddrives with ubuntu?
[03:18] <BarkingFish> and xangua - no I don't have that package installed
[03:18] <jongbergs> trism: great, i'll try that out..
[03:18] <jagginess> BarkingFish, you dont know how to configure it.. you should get help on it..
[03:18] <xangua> kubuntu-destkop* metapackage i mean BarkingFish
[03:18] <BarkingFish> and no, I don't have that either.
[03:18] <BarkingFish> I don't dl metapackages at all, I simply dl individual stuff
[03:19] <BarkingFish> I've been able to block specific packages before, back in Kubuntu 11.04, I just need to know how to do it again - I did it with Firefox to stop it upgrading.
[03:20] <Darkenvy> I would be glad to announce I am now running ubuntu server 10.04. How can I now install mysql?
[03:21] <jongbergs> trism: so "Description" is one of the formats
[03:21] <Darkenvy> "apt-get install mysql mysql-server" returns packages not found
[03:21] <Madpilot> ubottu, lamp | Darkenvy
[03:22] <Darkenvy> thanks
[03:22] <Madpilot> Darkenvy, np, I haven't set up a server in several versions of Ubuntu but that page should still be pretty comprehensive
[03:23] <trism> jongbergs: it's one of the fields you can display in the format string
[03:23] <BarkingFish> so - without the "you don't know how to configure it" stuff, and the like - can anyone simply answer my question please? How do I block a package from downloading during updates?
[03:23] <BarkingFish> I'm not angry or anything, simply tired - it's 4.25am, and I want to resolve this if possible, before I go to bed :)
[03:25] <jgalt> BarkingFish : I know your pain, I've been there.  let me do some looking and see if I might find some help.  it's only 8:25pm here
[03:26] <jongbergs> trism: the command gets the entire subscription. But how about getting its simple description like when you do: dpkg -l grub-common
[03:26] <jongbergs> trism: GRand Unified Bootloader (common files)
[03:27] <jrib> BarkingFish: you want to prevent updates to a certain package you already have installed?
[03:27] <BarkingFish> jgalt: thank you. I've been on linux long enough to know when regardless of configuring something, it's about as useful as a chocolate sunhat :)
[03:27] <BarkingFish> jrib: no, I want to prevent the package from downloading during updates to my system once I've removed it
[03:27] <genii-around> !pinning
[03:27] <jrib> BarkingFish: how did you remove it?
[03:28] <BarkingFish> took off the .pulse-cookie and the other .pulse stuff from my home folder, killall pulseaudio, apt-get remove pulseadio
[03:28] <jgalt> yes pinning is what I was thinking of thank you
[03:28] <jrib> BarkingFish: that should be sufficient
[03:28] <jongbergs> trism: I'm thinking of doing the same command and just grep the first line. It would be better if there is cleaner way to do this..
[03:28] <BarkingFish> jrib: it's not though. Whenever I update kde, pulseaudio comes back
[03:29] <jrib> BarkingFish: pastebin what you are running exactly and full output
[03:29] <BarkingFish> i don't know if I can, I'm cli only at the moment
[03:29] <jrib> !pastebin | BarkingFish
[03:30] <BarkingFish> what do you want to see? just the commands I'm running and the output I get from them, jrib?
[03:30] <jrib> BarkingFish: yes
[03:30] <BarkingFish> ok, one moment
[03:30] <ihashacks> jongbergs: apt-cache show grub | grep -m1 ^Description
[03:30] <Shdwdrgn> I'm back tonight trying to resolve an IPv6 issue.  Upgraded from natty to oneiric last night, server can now only communicate through ipv6 to other servers in the same /64.  Server receives all IPv6 packets though.  Info from a working server (also running oneiric) in the same zone: http://pastebin.com/iyp7HBF9  Info from the server I am having troubles with: http://pastebin.com/3QrrFd02
[03:31] <trism> jongbergs: the short description is just the first line of the Description field in the control file, so I don't know that there is a better way
[03:33] <BarkingFish> I can't do that right now, for some reason gpm won't copy the buffer for me
[03:33] <BarkingFish> I will try and get that done in the morning :)
[03:33] <jrib> BarkingFish: you can just redirect the output to pastebinit
[03:34] <jongbergs> ihashacks: This works, however you still need to operate the result to get the actual "Description"
[03:34] <BarkingFish> can I? I didn't know that :P
[03:34] <BarkingFish> myxzptlk! Now I have to go remove it all over again :)
[03:35] <chargersfan420> installed fglrx-updates, now can't get past login screen.  it tries to change my resolution, fails, and returns to the login screen.  can anyone help?
[03:36] <jongbergs> trism: I think this one is working: dpkg-query -Wf '${Description}\n' grub-common | head -n1
[03:36] <trism> jongbergs: yep, that's how I would do it
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> 'The Bash Fu is Strongwith this one...'
[03:37] <jongbergs> trism, ihashacks thanks guys, it really helped..
[03:37] <BarkingFish> jrib: How do I do that please? I tried running all the commands on the same line and adding > pastebinit on the end, and it created a text file called pastebinit :P
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> BarkingFish:  use |
[03:37] <BarkingFish> i did
[03:37] <jrib> BarkingFish: you can now run the pastebinit command on that file
[03:37] <lek_> dpkg-query -Wf '${Description}\n' grub-common | head -n1dpkg-query -Wf '${Description}\n' grub-common | head -n1
[03:38] <BarkingFish> it didn't complete though, it aborted the removal
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> echo 'foo' | pastebinit
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> the arror bracket ppipes to a file. the | goes to a command that takes the input
[03:38] <BarkingFish> I ran: rm -rf /home/thor/.pulse* | killall pulseaudio | apt-get remove pulseaudio > pastebinit
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> you piped the output to a file.. not a command
[03:39] <BarkingFish> :(
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> bigcommand string | pastebinit
[03:39] <BarkingFish> ok
[03:39] <BarkingFish> and how do I get apt-get remove to not need me to confirm it?
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> and im not sur why you aree using the | in the othjer places
[03:40] <jrib> BarkingFish: what I care about is exactly what you are typing and what the full output is when pulseaudio is trying to install again
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> that command line seems weird to me
[03:40] <jrib> BarkingFish: presumably you don't currently have pulseaudio installed
[03:40] <BarkingFish> Dr_Willis: I was breaking it up into individual commands, like I would running them on separate lines
[03:40] <BarkingFish> jrib: I do at the moment, I need it there to remove it and show you what it's doing :)
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> dont use | for that. ;)   heh..
[03:41] <wylde_> BarkingFish: then you'd use ; <--- a semicolon
[03:41] <BarkingFish> aha
[03:41] <BarkingFish> right - one moment please :)
[03:41] <Dr_Willis>  you can even run a bash command line that.   cd foo ; ls file ; cat bar
[03:43] <BarkingFish> i'm just sitting for a url to come back now
[03:44] <clifear> when I try to sudo start module-init-tools I get module-init-tools stop/waiting
[03:44] <clifear> any fix?
[03:44] <clifear> I've searched but nothing has worked thus far
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> clifear:  isent it sudo service whatever start
[03:44]  * clifear tried that too, same error
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> no idea whaggt module-init-tools even is..
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> why are you even needing to do thi?
[03:45] <clifear> its for lm-sensors / modprobe
[03:45] <wylde_> check the syslog and dmesg for clues?
[03:45] <BarkingFish> pastebinned - didn't copy the rm -rf command, or the killall pulseaudio, but did show you the removal
[03:45] <BarkingFish> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1029788
[03:45] <jrib> BarkingFish: it's my bed time now.  Anyway, if there isn't anything immediately obvious in your pastebin as to why pulseaudio wants to be reinstalled without you explicitly requesting it, my next guess would be that you have a package that "recommends" pulseaudio.  So find it and determine if you really want it (aptitude's search capabilities would make this easy).
[03:46] <BarkingFish> mine too, it's 4.45 am here
[03:46] <BarkingFish> I will pin it, so I can stop it from doing anything in the future
[03:46] <BarkingFish> Screw what the system recommends, if anything recommends it, I'll remove that too :)
[03:46] <BarkingFish> :P
[03:47] <trism> clifear: module-init-tools is just a script, it just modprobes the modules in /etc/modules then exits, so that's the status you get
[03:47] <MooreJohn> Hi guy, I want to know the way of removing apache2 that was installed from source code, I mean, I dont used apt-get install, compiled and installed in /usr/local/
[03:47] <BarkingFish> anyhow, good night/morning now (it's daylight) - I'm off.
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> MooreJohn:  'sudo make uninstall'  fromthe source dir.. is common
[03:48] <clifear> thanks trism that makes sense, but now when I run sensors I don't get the proper output
[03:48] <BarkingFish> thanks for the help jrib, wylde_, Dr_Willis and jgalt :)
[03:48] <BarkingFish> see ya
[03:49] <MooreJohn> Hi Dr_Willis, I am new to linux ubutu, what you mean "from the source dir"
[03:49] <wylde_> clifear: did you 'sudo sensors-detect'?
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> MooreJohn:  where you compiled it at..  same dir you did the make and other colmmands in
[03:49] <clifear> wylde_yes, I answered yes to all the correct questions and double-checked
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> should we be asking why you decided to compile apache from source?
[03:50] <clifear> the output file that it writes as well
[03:50] <MooreJohn> I uncompress the source code in "Desktop" and I made "./configure", "make" and "make install"
[03:50] <wylde_> clifear: odd... I've not ever had any issues with any of those.
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> MooreJohn:  right.. and theres a ' make uninstall  '  that code commonly uses to remove stuff
[03:51] <Madpilot> MooreJohn, you do know Apache is available in Ubuntu repos, right?
[03:51] <minniepayne> hi. on my computer, i have Win7 and a linux distro installed. i'm planning on installing another linux os. How do i tell the installer to reuse the exisiting swap partition?
[03:51] <MooreJohn> ok I will try
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> if you just did a make install, then you dident run it as root. so it shouldent be in /opt/ ;)
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  normally in the partition setup  tool you just point swap to the swap partition.
[03:53] <clifear> any other ideas?
[03:53] <minniepayne> ok. great, Dr_Willis thanks
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  if you share swap. you dont want to be using he hibernate/suspend functions.
[03:53] <roasted> friends hello@
[03:53] <roasted> !
[03:53] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: want do you mean "you don'twant to be using hibernate / suspend functions"? why not?
[03:53] <MooreJohn> Hi Dr_Willis, I got "No rule to make target uninstall. stop"
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  you suspend os#1 it saves stuff to swap.. os #2 then boots.. and uses the swap...
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> swap IS used to hibernate/suspend
[03:54] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: but isn't swap wiped clean (like RAM) after powering off?
[03:54] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: after computer powers off?
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> MooreJohn:  then they did not include the method to remove it.
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  One  of those Hibernate/sispends saves ram to swap then powers off.. then uses swap to restore the memory.
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> I never can rember  which one does it. ;)
[03:55] <ihashacks> swap isn't used for suspend but IS for hibernate
[03:55] <wildint> anyone know which channel the release teams hang out in, using wget on a server 64 bit link is getting me an i386 iso
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> Seems they change the terms in  the differnet OS's ever so often.
[03:55] <ihashacks> I don't even have a swap partition on my laptop and suspend just fine. Hibernate is NOT possible however.
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> used to be 'suspend to ram' or 'suspend to disk'
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> i dontuse either. too many issues
[03:56] <minniepayne> ok, so does Ubuntu use "hibernate" feature?
[03:56] <MooreJohn> hi Madpilot yep I know, but I follow the way of showing in the book of sitepoint
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  if your swap is big enough
[03:56] <evildaemon> When I download and unpack archives, they're executables won't execute. I've set the sticky bit. My system acts as though the files don't exist.
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> evildaemon:  sticky bit? What filesystem are the binaries on?  You just need to make them executable
[03:57] <ihashacks> minniepayne: "hibernate" is disabled by default in Ubuntu 12.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation-in-12-04
[03:57] <Madpilot> ubottu, lamp | MooreJohn better and Ubuntu-specific method for getting Apache and such running:
[03:58] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: ihashacks. ok. Let's say i have 2 linux OSes sharing same swap partition. If I boot into LinuxDistro1 and turn on hibernate, when will swap be made free for use for other OS?
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  swap will getoverwritten so that other os will fail to restore its hibernated state
[03:58] <evildaemon> Dr_Willis: The bit that you set on a *nix filesystem to allow executables to run. They're on my hard disk.
[03:58] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: ihashacks i mean "free for _LinuxDistro2_"
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> evildaemon:  stick bit is not the same as the executable bit
[03:59] <evildaemon> Dr_Willis: Oh, well. Still, the executable bit is set.
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> evildaemon:  are they on a NTFS/Vfat: or a ext2/3/4  filesystem
[03:59] <evildaemon> Dr_Willis: Ext4, I think.
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> evildaemon:  and tghe exact command you are using to launch them is?
[03:59] <ihashacks> minniepayne: you will have issues. Some distros check during boot to see if resume data is found in the swap, if it is, it tries to use it. So if your Distro1 hibernates to RAM, then you boot Distro2, it will see the hibernate data and try to boot it up with it.
[03:59] <evildaemon> ./
[04:00] <chargersfan420> installed fglrx-updates and i am now in hell.  how do i go back?
[04:00] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: but i still don't get it. if i hibernate while using LinuxDistro1, the next time I press the power button, I "wake up" from hibernation from Distro1. So I wouldn't even have to face the problem of booting into Distro2 with  a swap that is in hibernation.
[04:00] <evildaemon> Dr_Willis: I'm just running them as binaries.
[04:00] <evildaemon> Dr_Willis: But the filesystem acts like they don't exist.
[04:00] <wildint> minniepayne, that may work, I have never tried
[04:00] <evildaemon> Dr_Willis: Not that they don't have permission, but that they don't exist.
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  if the 2 distros try to sahre the same hibernated data.. it will be problematic
[04:00] <wylde_> minniepayne: unless you fail to recover from a hibernate and have to hard boot ;)
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> evildaemon:  You are getting the case RiGht?
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> evildaemon:  using tab to complete file names/
[04:01] <evildaemon> Dr_Willis: Using tab completion.
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> check outout of 'file thefileyouwanttorun'
[04:02] <minniepayne> wildint: Dr_Willis ihashacks. Isn't wylde_ correct in saying that the only time my computer will have to erase "hibernated swap" is if i have to hard boot?
[04:02] <wildint> minniepayne, theoretically yes - care to experiment in practice and let us know
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  short answer.. share ing swap = DONT use hibernate in either OS.  unless you are just rarely using one of them. :)
[04:03] <evildaemon> Dr_Willis: It's an LSB executable.
[04:03] <minniepayne> rarely using one of what?
[04:03] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: ^
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> hibernate os1, boot os2 - you just messed up hibernate file for os1
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> i dont se emuch point in having 2 linuxs installed.. what 2 are you using?
[04:03] <evildaemon> Dr_Willis: Nevermind, magically fixed itself.
[04:03] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: but how can you boot into OS2 after you've just hibernated from OS1? Doesn't hibernate mean that the only next action is to wake up from hibernation?
[04:04] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: backtrack and linux
[04:04] <evildaemon> Dr_Willis: Thank you.
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  No.. the kenrel boots and sees/restiores the hibernated file
[04:04] <minniepayne> oops. Dr_Willis i meant backtrack and ubuntu
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> grub -: kernel -: restores
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> dont see much need for backtrack. :) dont really see why you would need to hibernate backtrack either.
[04:05] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: i'm still not understanding. if you were to hibernate your Ubuntu OS now.... what are the next options you will have when you press the hardware "power" button?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  you still get the grub menu.. you select ubuntu.. it sees the hibernated file and restores it'
[04:05] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: i won't need to hibernate backtrack. but i may need to hibernate ubuntu. then again, i rarely use hibernate
[04:05] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: ok ok. i understand now.
[04:06] <JustMe_> join
[04:06] <JustMe_> #jakarta
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> but i imagine hibernate is disalbed in both those OS's ;)
[04:06] <jagginess> anyone here used annotation on videos?
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> and how often are you even going to be using Backtrack  :)
[04:07] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: will use backtrack very very rarely. maybe once in 4 monts
[04:07] <genii-around> !info advene
[04:08] <genii-around> Hm
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  i dont see the point in installing it then. You could set a grub item up to boot the backtrack ISO file if you needed
[04:08] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: boot ISO file? ISO file on hard drive?
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  yes..
[04:08] <minniepayne> what's the benefits to booting from ISO file?
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> i keep iso files in my /boot/ partition for emergancy and otehr special cases
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> i can boot  my ubuntu iso and do a clean install or othe rtasks. with no cd needed
[04:09] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: ok. but what is the advantages to booting from ISO file over installing on Disk?  Is it for saving hard drive space?
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> i can set up other special disrtos/isos and test them
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> If you need a live cd setup.. booting iso works just as well.
[04:10] <genii-around> !info advene quantal
[04:10] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: i also don't need to use a CD. I used unetbootin to create bootable/installable backtrack on USB
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> i dont even need a usb. :)
[04:10] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: but why use a livecd setup?
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> dont even need to use unetbootin
[04:10] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: but isn't booting from iso slower than booting from hard drive?
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  the iso is just as fast getting read from the hd.
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> it is a live cd however.
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> with the same benifitss/limitations
[04:11] <minniepayne> so why do Linux distros make the default way of using themselves a "harddrive install" and not "boot from ISO"?
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  thats not the default for them all.
[04:12] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: ok. so "boot from ISO" has the same limitations as "live cd".
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> boot live  cd/iso - for repairs, or installing, or other special cases
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> some disrtos like puppy, and tinycorelinux , can boot from cd. and save changes to a external drive by default. ;)
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> a 'frugal' setup is the term for those often used
[04:13] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: sorry for not understanding. I just don't get the payoffs for booting from ISO, as opposed to installing the linux distro on hard drive.
[04:13] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: it has limitations, but i don't see the benefits
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  same benifits as you get from booting the  cd directly, or a live usb
[04:14] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: hte only benefit i can think of from booting from Live USB in saving hard drive space.
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> I can boot my ISO and reinstall ubuntu in perhaps 5 min.
[04:14] <Nythillie> Hello!  Quick question!  If I want to theme the unity bar (12.04) I look for GTK3 themes, right?
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> theres a great manu Live disrtos out there for differnt tasks
[04:14] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: another benefit of booting from LiveCD/USB is if you don't want to bother creating another partition.
[04:15] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: but i don't mind creating a 10GB partition for a Linux distro that i'll use rarely.
[04:15] <xangua> Nythillie: that depends, some themes support unity, they usually tell it in gnome-look.org at least
[04:15] <Nythillie> Gnome-look is still the place go for themes then?
[04:15] <Nythillie> :)
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> themeing has gotten even more confuseing in gnome3/shell/unity. :)
[04:16] <hailsatan> sup everybody
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> i just play with the settilgs till i get somthing i like. then often i cant recreate  the look on a differnt pc
[04:17] <Nythillie> Ugh.  I like Unity.  I just want more obvious controll over it.
[04:17] <CoJaBo> There was a really nice sequence of options, I *think* using ffmpeg, to convert a video to a series of PNGs or JPEGs or something (decimating the framerate in the process); but I can't seem to find it- any ideas?
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> CoJaBo:  think i saw that in the faq for either ffmpeg, or mencoder
[04:19] <bndk> ,
[04:19] <CoJaBo> Yeh, I think I did too, but its not there now that I actually need to do that :/
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> joy -  the whole factory just went down.. every alarm in the plant just went off.. air compressors went down. - im going to be  busy the rest of the night... bye all..
[04:20] <hailsatan> sup everybody
[04:21] <trism> CoJaBo: I usually use: mplayer -vo jpeg
[04:23] <CoJaBo> trism: Can that be used to decimate the framerate tho too?
[04:23] <CoJaBo> 60fps is a bit much lol..
[04:24] <rkhshm> I'm having a weird problem.. I"m running an intel mobo (i7 1st gen) with 11.04 on it. Off late i see that the machine does not boot at all..
[04:24] <rkhshm> I mean i dont get to even the BIOS ,also what i noticed is when the machine is ON for a long time (3-4 days) with heavy load on it and when i shut it down i get this http://imagebin.org/215602 and the machine hangs.
[04:24] <jarray52> I have one of those dual graphics card laptops. I'm using 10.04 LTS. My laptop always uses the lower resolution graphics card. Is there a way to get it to use the higher res graphics card?
[04:24] <minniepayne> why can't my google chrome connect to lifehacker.com
[04:24] <rkhshm> i initially suspected that RAM can be an issue so checked it thoroughly but it was not the issue... Now i'm wondering if my mobo is dying.
[04:24] <rkhshm> any ideas guys.. Please help as this is my server
[04:27] <trism> CoJaBo: maybe -fps?
[04:27] <rkhshm> any opinions?
[04:28] <jarray52> rkhshm: Your server doesn't boot?
[04:28] <rkhshm> jarray52: correct
[04:28] <rkhshm> jarray52: it wont even take me to BIOS
[04:28] <sacarlson> rkhshm: if it fails to come up in bios I would say it hardware
[04:28] <jarray52> rkhshm: Does it ever boot?
[04:29] <rkhshm> sacarlson: well that was my hunch as well.. But strangely i just switched it off and turned it back on a few times, and now its back ONLINE
[04:29] <rkhshm> jarray52: ^^
[04:29] <olskolirc> !konsole
[04:29] <sacarlson> rkhshm: I powered my system down the other day that failed to boot after 4 attepts,  I shut it down to fix it the next day.   the next day it worked perfect, now has run for days
[04:30] <jarray52> both of you have the same issue?
[04:30] <rkhshm> sacarlson: right pretty much like what I"m facing.. but when i shut it down i'm not sure if it will boot again
[04:30] <trism> CoJaBo: no, I guess not, there probably is but I don't know what it is
[04:30] <sacarlson> rkhshm: I also checked the SMART data from disks and all looked good
[04:30] <rkhshm> my mobo is intel WX58P
[04:31] <jarray52> sacarlson rkhshm: Does the RAM identified in top match the RAM in the system?
[04:31] <sacarlson> rkhshm: in my case I assume it's a heat problem as I opened the case to prepare to work on it and now it works
[04:31] <rkhshm> jarray52: what is top match ?
[04:32] <jarray52> jarray52: If 4gb, then 4*1024*1024*1024?
[04:32] <rkhshm> sacarlson: my SMART stats are also good there is nothing to get concerned about.
[04:32] <rkhshm> jarray52: 2x2G + 1x1G
[04:33] <ki4ro> What could be causing my disc drive to get extremely busy and my entire system to hang?
[04:33] <jarray52> rkhshm: You're telling me that you have 5gb?
[04:33] <rkhshm> jarray52: yes
[04:33] <sacarlson> ki4ro: look with an application called top to find out
[04:34] <ki4ro> sacarlson: That's just it...I can't get into anything...pointer freezes too
[04:34] <jarray52> rkhshm: When you run top, what number does it say for Mem:?
[04:34] <rkhshm> jarray52: top or free -m ?
[04:35] <ki4ro> sacarlson: Unless top has a history option?
[04:35] <sacarlson> ki4ro: <ctrl><alt>f2 might get you to a console to check
[04:35] <jarray52> ki4ro: You can also use lsof.
[04:35] <rkhshm> jarray52: http://pastie.org/4048271
[04:37] <Ormie> does init 3 work in ubuntu?
[04:38] <sacarlson> Ormie: I think it works but does the same as some of the others
[04:38] <rkhshm> jarray52: any ideas?
[04:39] <mobilenoob11> Evening. I need some assistance.
[04:39] <jarray52> rkhshm: Which country do you live in?
[04:39] <rkhshm> jarray52: inida
[04:39] <rkhshm> india
[04:39] <Ormie> sacarlson, typing "init 3" in terminal will switch the default desktop environment to console. I got this from OpenSuse. You still think it'll work?
[04:39] <shanky_ty> ormie it works in ubuntu
[04:40] <Ormie> ok
[04:40] <jarray52> rkhshm: Is it possible your boot problems are due to heat?
[04:40] <sacarlson> Ormie: I think it's just init 1 for single usr or no gui and init 2+ for gui? http://theos.in/news/ubuntu-linux-shutdown-the-x-server/
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  ubuntu dosent use runlevels like that  normally
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> !runlevel
[04:40] <Ormie> ?
[04:41] <shanky_ty> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[04:41] <jarray52> rkhshm: That would be my guess.
[04:41] <Ormie> anyways, I'll try on VM
[04:41] <Ormie> thanks
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> use the recovery/rescue options in grub, or the text option to not startup the login manager
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> or stop the servies you dont need
[04:41] <rkhshm> jarray52: i dont think so. Because i've used this machine for nearly 2 yrs now and till date its had many sleepless nights and never have i seen this problem...
[04:41] <rkhshm> To add to the mystery i had turned the machine off yesterday for nearly 8 hrs and today morning i tried booting it up and it failed the first time then after 3 repeated attempts it worked
[04:41] <john> Okay I did the ctl alt f2 thing but then I couldn't get out of it
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> john:  f1 through 6 is consoles. f7 is normally X
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> sometimes x will be on f8 or higher
[04:42] <sacarlson> rkhshm: well then it's not a temp problem in your case
[04:42] <john> Dr_Willis: okay...thanks
[04:43] <sacarlson> rkhshm: unless your house is very cold?  maybe freezing?
[04:43] <mobilenoob11> I am installing ubuntu from a usb, and I'm at the partion manager, I just resized the windows partition, and now I have free space that needs to be the ubuntu.
[04:43] <rkhshm> sacarlson: its not freezing but a healthy 28-29C
[04:43] <rkhshm> :)
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> mobilenoob11:  you dont have 4 primary partitions already defined do you?
[04:44] <sacarlson> rkhshm: also noted the freeradius in your pastebin, did you install that from the repository?  I failed to even get the standard freeradius to run without compiling it
[04:44] <reflexrg> what's a good classic 2d space shooter game(s) for ubuntu?
[04:45] <mobilenoob11> no
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> reflexrg:  like asteroids?
[04:45] <jarray52> rkhshm: If it isn't getting to BIOS, it is either a BIOS bug, malware that infects BIOS, or hardware failure. Malware that sophisticated is unlikely. Check your manufacturer's website regarding BIOS bugs. Hardware is tricky. It could be anything from a capacitor to a chip.
[04:45] <mobilenoob11> I have the three that came with, and free space
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> mobilenoob11:  so make a extended partition, and make some logicals in it. to put ubuntu in. :)
[04:46] <rkhshm> jarray52: the reason i'm so involved in fixing this is becuase i get warranty on the mobo as of now..
[04:46] <reflexrg> Dr_Willis: it can be going horizontal or vertical
[04:46] <rkhshm> so i can get it replaced easily ;)
[04:46] <sacarlson> rkhshm: most my hardware problem was fixed with eather cleaning the mem chip connectors or replace the power supply (when they fail to power up)
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> reflexrg:  MAME has all the old classic arcade games
[04:46] <mobilenoob11> Should it be primary?
[04:47] <reflexrg> thanks Dr_Willis
[04:47] <rkhshm> hmm
[04:47] <reflexrg> is that a meta package in ubuntu or is that an emulator? Dr_Willis
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> mobilenoob11:  you need a partition for / and  for swap. so a extended with logicals is the  normal way
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> !info mame
[04:47] <sacarlson> rkhshm: reposition mem sims seems to have corrected some of my problems but probly just unpluging them and replug was the real fix
[04:48] <reflexrg> isn't suggesting that illegal Dr_Willis ?
[04:48] <reflexrg> most roms are not free to use
[04:48] <rkhshm> sacarlson: i did that already and it worked for a few days
[04:48] <reflexrg> where do you go for legal roms? Dr_Willis
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> reflexrg:  the app is legal and you can buy some of the roms.
[04:48] <rkhshm> now its back to being a pain :(
[04:48] <jarray52> What's the easiest way to get vga_switcheroo working on Ubuntu 10.04
[04:48] <jarray52> ?
[04:48] <reflexrg> Free ones Dr_Willis
[04:48] <fleakite> Hi. Is there a way to change the window scrollbar to pre-Unity style?
[04:49] <sacarlson> rkhshm: then I start pulling mem sims out as some don't fail for days or weeks
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> ive bought several 'arcade' packs  - over theyears from nameco and so forth that was mame repackaged by them
[04:49] <reflexrg> going out for a walk be back Dr_Willis
[04:49] <mobilenoob11> Do I split the free space into more than one?
[04:49] <rkhshm> sacarlson: that would not be a permanent solution now would it.
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> mobilenoob11:  you need a partitoion for / and one for swap as a minimum normally.
[04:49] <rkhshm> because there seems to be something inherently wrong..
[04:50] <sacarlson> rkhshm: yes it has been in one case as I could no longer get the old mem sims to replace them
[04:50] <mobilenoob11> What kind of space is required for swap?
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> depends on your needs and your memory
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> i normally do 1gb swap.
[04:51] <mobilenoob11> So I need a 1 gig ext4 to do swap then?
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> swap is not ext4.. its swap ;)
[04:51] <mobilenoob11> I soo sorry, I did not realise what I was getting into.
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> the instlleer can auto partion the unallocated space.
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> or you can use gparted to make the swap partition and / partiton beforhand.
[04:52] <mobilenoob11> If I choose install along side, it will do this for me?
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> the filesystem used by the swap partition is of the type 'swap'
[04:52] <mobilenoob11> I know how to use g parted
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> i  always partion my drives with gparted beforhand.  i dont trust the auto stuff. :)
[04:53] <Darkenvy> how can I install java on ubuntu 10.04 server?
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> i also tend to use a hard drive for linux and one for windows.. the trmanolgy of the installer makes it confuseing as how to 'use all of one hard drive'
[04:54] <sacarlson> Darkenvy: there are a few options for java I would go for the real oricle one
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> !java | Darkenvy
[04:54] <mobilenoob11> Im on laptop. Does it matter if swap or ext4 are at begining or end?
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> dont matter much these days mobilenoob11
[04:55] <Darkenvy> ever since sun java6 dissapeared ive been here several times for java
[04:55] <roasted> Anybody getting continual messages in Chrome about running flash for "this time only" and whatnot?
[04:55] <jarray52> Darkenvy: sudo aptitude install openjdk-6-jdk
[04:55] <Darkenvy> I cannot for the life of me remember how I get it working each time and have tried many many guides
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> i just use the open sourced java.
[04:56] <Phiscribe> yes i see that often installing java fx seemed to reduce it
[04:57] <Darkenvy> installing…: will openjdk be fine for hosting a game called minecraft you think?
[04:57] <mobilenoob11> Thanks guys, I have one more question. Is there any reason the track pad on this acer aspire isn't working on ubuntu??
[04:57] <Darkenvy> Ive always used sun :P
[04:57] <sacarlson> Dr_Willis: I note that my grayed out firefox I think is from java as when I turn off java it never gets gray (locked or slow)  but it seems that's with several java versions
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> see the mindcraft site as to what they suggest
[04:57] <jarray52> Darkenvy: probably not. If it was compiled with sunjdk, it probably won't run with openjdk.
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> we get way to many minecraft support questions in here. :)  but it seems its been slowing down.. perhps the game is burning out in popularity now
[04:58] <Darkenvy> well what happened to sun jaba?
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> oravle bought sun, then just a few months back.. messed with the java licenseing.. so now all the linux disrtos had to change things
[04:59] <sacarlson> Darkenvy: orical purchased sun, not sure if that made any difference
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> the license change was the big stinker.
[05:00] <mobilenoob11> Is there any need tthanks guys!
[05:01] <Darkenvy> hmmm well that sucks!
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> Oracle sucks;)
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> they ae good at messing things up.
[05:01] <john> Can do the CTRL ALT F2 thing, but cannot get out of it...help1
[05:01] <john> help!
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> john:  clarofy wht you mean exactly.
[05:01] <sacarlson> john: <ctl><alt> f7  or is it f8
[05:02] <john> sacarlson: Ah, thanks...didn't realize I needed the ctl alt in front of the f7
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> sudo service lightdm restart will close x andrestarft it also..
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> you used ctrl-alt to get to it ;)
[05:03] <john> sacarlson: That worked...thank you so much and DR Willis too!
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> john:  f1 through 6 is consoles. f7 is normally X
[05:03] <john> dr_willis
[05:04] <loonatic> Hi people
[05:04] <loonatic> I need help
[05:04] <john> Dr_Willis: With ctrl alt in front of f1 thru f6?
[05:04] <loonatic> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 and it's so damn slow
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> john:  yes. thats normal...
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> altctrl  f1 through f6
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> i think on jut the console you dont need the ctrl. but i forget.
[05:05] <john> Dr_Willis: Okay, I understand better now...I hope LOL
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> but to get to the consoled you need both
[05:05] <loonatic> Can anyone help me?
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> alt-ctrl f1 through F6 gets to the 6 consoles..  rather straight forward ;) F7 is X
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> loonatic:  details of your syst4m specs and whqt you have done so fafr with it are going to be helpfull
[05:06] <john> Dr_Willis: Thanks...didn't realize that but I do now...very helpful for next time my system hangs...I hope...
[05:06] <loonatic> Dr_Willis: Dell notebook, 3 gb RAM, intel core 2 duo
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> john:  install ssh server, so you can remote-shell in to fix things also
[05:07] <loonatic> Dr_Willis: I've done nothing, I just made a fresh install of 12.04. The problem is this: trying to open programs takes A LONG time
[05:08] <MonkeyDust> loonatic  execute (paste) this is in a terminal, for a basic upgrade + clean up =>  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade;sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:08] <john> Dr_Willis: Don't know what an ssh server is or a remote shell...sorry
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> !ssh | john
[05:08] <john> ubottu: Thanks
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> john:  im on my android phone right now, ssh'd into my home pc. running this irc client. ;)
[05:09] <MonkeyDust> Dr_Willis  you're a geek
[05:09] <john> Dr_Willis: cool
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> if i was a geek id have openvpn setup ;)
[05:10] <john> Dr_Willis: I C LOL
[05:11] <loonatic> MonkeyDust: done. What now?
[05:11] <Phiscribe> geek wannabe
[05:11] <Phiscribe> he eh eh eh eh he he
[05:12] <daniel110> How stable is adobe photoshop on ubuntu with wine?
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | daniel110
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> daniel110:  ive herd older versions work. )
[05:13] <loonatic> Opening Ubuntu Software Center takes about 15 seconds... :(
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> thats the etend of my adobe PS knowledge
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> loonatic:  so?  that seem about normal. :) how about 'gedit'
[05:14] <refresh> test
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> refresh: true/false of mulpital guess?
[05:14] <loonatic> Dr_WIllis: about 40 seconds ¬¬
[05:15] <loonatic> Dr_Willis: about 40 seconds to open Gedit
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> loonatic:  now close gedit and try it again
[05:15] <loonatic> Dr_Willis: 7 seconds
[05:15] <MonkeyDust> loonatic  install preload, it loads apps that you use often faster -- also: add vm.swappiness=10 in /etc/sysctl.conf
[05:16] <loonatic> MonkeyDust is there a way to permanently set the swap value to 10? I
[05:17] <MonkeyDust> loonatic  you mean the swap size?
[05:17] <loonatic> MonkeyDust yes
[05:17] <MonkeyDust> loonatic  then you have to resize the partition, i do not advice it
[05:18]  * Dr_Willis thinks we are getting terms confused
[05:19] <loonatic> MonkeyDust, when I type "sudo cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness" in the terminal I got "60", but I had previously set this value to 0, how come it changed?
[05:19] <loonatic> MonkeyDust when I change it to 0 gedit opens in no time
[05:19] <CoJaBo> loonatic: If you want it preserved on reboot, set it in /etc/sysctl.conf
[05:20] <loonatic> CoJaBo can you give me the instructions to do it? I'm not an expert user
[05:20] <MonkeyDust> loonatic  that's the vm.swappiness=10 thing
[05:20] <CoJaBo> O yeh; scroll up lol :P
[05:21] <CoJaBo> Just edit the file as root, add that line (or change it if it already happens to be there)
[05:22] <loonatic> CoJaBo okay, will do
[05:23] <loonatic> okay now it's taking forever to open that file :|
[05:24] <MonkeyDust> !info preload | loonatic
[05:26] <loonatic> MonkeyDust ubottu, okay, but this is weird, when I was using ubuntu 10.10 I didn't have to install "Preload", everything worked perfectly
[05:26] <MonkeyDust> loonatic  ubuntu evolution has been weird all over
[05:28] <loonatic> MonkeyDust haha yeah, i know
[05:28] <loonatic> okay i'm off to bed now people, thanks for your help!
[05:29] <loonatic> oh yeah
[05:29] <loonatic> just one thing
[05:29] <loonatic> before i leave
[05:29] <loonatic> how on earth do you remove app launchers?
[05:29] <loonatic> when i right-click on a launcher all i get is either "launch" or "properties"
[05:30] <mz|`> o/
[05:30] <wylde_> \o
[05:31] <Ormie> i686 vs. x86-64?
[05:31] <mz|`> Ormie: depends on your needs.
[05:31] <Darkfall117> /nickname
[05:31] <mz|`> use more than 192GB of RAM ? :)
[05:31] <Darkfall117> hey hey
[05:31] <loonatic> how on earth do you remove app launchers?
[05:32] <loonatic> when i right-click on a launcher all i get is either "launch" or "properties"
[05:32] <mz|`> ALT + click ?
[05:32]  * mz|` does not use gnome :-(
[05:32] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  what's the outcome of uname -a ?
[05:33] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, Why do you ask me?
[05:33] <MonkeyDust> you'll see why
[05:33] <loonatic> mz|` doesnt work :(
[05:33] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, ?
[05:34] <mz|`> loonatic: unity or gnome ?
[05:34] <loonatic> mz|` gnome
[05:34] <gry> loonatic: Uh. Alt+click on the panel would at least bring a menu so you can choose to 'customise' the panel as of 11.10.
[05:34] <mz|`> gry: exactly
[05:34] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, I don't see why.
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> super-right click i think
[05:35] <mz|`> do not alt/click on an icon thought...
[05:35] <loonatic> nothing happens :S
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> or super alt-right click
[05:35] <gry> loonatic: ok. Try shift+ right click, ctrl + right click.
[05:35] <loonatic> nothing
[05:35] <mz|`> http://askubuntu.com/questions/91445/how-do-i-remove-an-icon-from-the-top-panel-in-gnome-fallback-mode
[05:36] <Ormie> I think GNOME 3 needs a some work!
[05:36] <wylde_> beat it with a stick?
[05:36] <mz|`> use i3wm
[05:36] <mz|`> or awesome
[05:37] <loonatic> mz|` you're my hero!
[05:37] <gry> loonatic: It only works in fallback mode.
[05:37] <gry> Augh, mz|` beat me to it. Thanks. :)
[05:37] <loonatic> gry i don't quite understand what "fallback mode" means
[05:37] <mz|`> that you do not use unity
[05:37] <MonkeyDust> loonatic  it's what I use, it looks very much like gnome2
[05:37] <mz|`> gry: ;)
[05:38] <gry> loonatic: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gnome-3-fallback.html 'fallback mode' section
[05:38] <nirjhor> ImportError:libtinfo.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:38] <nirjhor> getting this error
[05:38] <nirjhor> any help pls?
[05:38] <mz|`> i answered in #debian already nirjhor
[05:38] <wylde_> !find libtinfo.so.5
[05:39] <gry> nirjhor: http://kaushikprajapati.wordpress.com/2010/04/30/libtinfo-so-5-error-in-ubuntu-and-solution-for-the-same/
[05:40] <loonatic> gry yeah i'm definitely on fallback mode, but how can I change this?
[05:41] <mz|`> loonatic: log out and choose your DM/WM on the login screen
[05:42] <internetheroz> hi, I'm trying to get into Grub
[05:42] <internetheroz> My computer automatically transfers to the kernel when booting up
[05:43] <internetheroz> at what stage during the bootup do I need to press 'SHIFT' to get into GRUB?
[05:43] <wylde_> internetheroz: right after your bios posts
[05:44] <internetheroz> wylde_ is the bios the screen that gives me options like 'Press F10 for setup'?
[05:44] <wylde_> internetheroz: yessir
[05:44] <internetheroz> got it, thanks
[05:44] <wylde_> internetheroz: or just after that, my bad
[05:45] <ruoshan> hi there,I found that the lightdm takes about 10 sec to present me the passwd-input area
[05:45] <ruoshan> can it be fixed?
[05:45] <loonaatic> gry I didn't understand your last message
[05:45] <loonaatic> gry you said "log out " and then.. ???
[05:45] <gry> 15:11:25 < mz|`> loonatic: log out and choose your DM/WM on the login screen
[05:46] <loonaatic> gry what's DM/WM? :p
[05:46] <MonkeyDust> loonatic  click on the small ubuntu icon to choose
[05:46] <mz|`> desktop manager or window manager
[05:46] <gry> loonaatic: display menager/window manager.
[05:46] <loonaatic> ahhhhh
[05:46] <gry> oh, or that.
[05:46] <loonaatic> which one do i choose?
[05:46] <mz|`> I3WM !
[05:46] <mz|`> :D
[05:47] <loonaatic> i'm on unity 2d right now
[05:48] <MonkeyDust> loonaatic  try them all and choose the one you prefer
[05:48] <loonaatic> urgh this whole thing is driving me nuts
[05:48] <Pro_JOHN> Hello friends!!!
[05:48] <loonaatic> okay
[05:48] <aaas> what preferred pdf viewer do people use?
[05:48] <loonaatic> exit
[05:48] <MonkeyDust> loonaatic  that's called 'learning'
[05:48] <loonaatic> hah
[05:48] <loonaatic> :D
[05:49] <mz|`> aaas: acroread/xpdf/pdfviewer/evince
[05:49] <mz|`> depends on your desktop (kde/gnome/else)
[05:49] <aaas> acroread seems to require i386 libs for me
[05:50] <mz|`> aaas: and ? :)
[05:50] <aaas> and wants to install 200 packages and breaks other programs when i want to install
[05:50] <mohadib> i have 2 network interfaces, connected to different networks, both configured with dhcp, is it possible to set a metric for the gateways?
[05:50] <wylde_> aaas: could try any of the other PS readers :)
[05:50] <Poesghost> quit
[05:50] <aaas> wylde yes i will
[05:51] <aaas> well pdf readers
[05:51] <Phiscribe> xpdf evince, kpdf many others, i use the chromium browser alot to quick view pdfs
[05:51] <mz|`> pdfmod is nice too
[05:51] <MonkeyDust> !pdf
[05:52] <gry> !info pdfedit
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> !info pdf2html
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> ;()
[05:55] <bhavesh> !mint
[05:58] <maj> I just DLed VLC and all files seem to be greyed out. I can't select them.  Is there a way to assign file types in Ubuntu?
[05:58] <jarray52> How does one use the radeon graphics card using vga_switcheroo?
[06:00] <MonkeyDust> jarray52  start here http://askubuntu.com/questions/19897/getting-vga-switcheroo-with-ati-mobility-radeon-5650-hd-to-work#39485
[06:01] <MonkeyDust> jarray52  mind: it says 10.10
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> maj:  downloaded how?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> you can just drag/drop ino the vlc playlist. ifyou want to play a lot
[06:06] <MonkeyDust> maj  or select allt the files in nautilus and then right click or press enter to play them
[06:06] <wylde_> right click "Open with..." choose vlc and check the box to remeber that option?
[06:06] <Pro_JOHN> helloo I am PRO_JOHN
[06:06] <MonkeyDust> hi Pro_JOHN i'm MonkeyDust
[06:07] <maj> Ok   I DLed it with ubuntu software center
[06:07] <jarray52> MonkeyDust: I'm giving that a try.
[06:08] <maj> when I use open directory from VLC all the files are grey    I haven't  tryed nautilus
[06:08] <Valiant> 12.04 - How do I set the default program to use when opening a file? (The equivalent of "Always the selected program.. in windows")
[06:08] <gry> In Nautilus, right click the file, properties.
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> righ click on a file.. open with...
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> or sothing like that
[06:09] <wylde_> maj: umm just click open then. If you're using "Open Directory" it will add all those files to the playlist.
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> 'open directory'; wants the dirextory... not a single file
[06:11] <MonkeyDust> Valiant  system settings, details
[06:11] <Valiant> Only temporary, the next time I double click the file, it reverts back to the default program set by ubuntu
[06:11] <Valiant> Can it be set permanently?
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> there  a check box in tghe dialogs for open with ti set it to be the default
[06:11] <wylde_> Valiant: there's a chackbox to tell it to remember the application.
[06:11] <MonkeyDust> Valiant  system settings, details, default applications
[06:12] <wylde_> or what MonkeyDust is saying :)
[06:12] <Valiant> There is no check box.
[06:12] <maj> OK thats got it     the  default was movie player    I changed it      but it did want a directory  to setup a playlist    open file worked fine   thanks
[06:12] <jarray52> MonkeyDust: I added radeon.modeset=1 to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and ran update-grub. That didn't seem to work. Ubuntu still doesn't load the radeon card. I also installed a 2.6.38 kernel using backports. This kernel has vga_switcheroo features and the .config shows that it is selected.
[06:13] <MonkeyDust> jarray52  well, i have intel video myself, i only provided the link
[06:13] <jarray52> MonkeyDust: Thanks for trying.
[06:14] <Valiant> MonkeyDust, the file type is not listed there
[06:14] <mobilenoob11> Help! device for boot loader installation:
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> mobilenoob11:  the mbr of the hd you are booting.. ie /dev/sda
[06:14] <fleakite> Hi. Isn't the firewall available on Ubuntu 12.04?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  its in there.
[06:14] <mobilenoob11> k
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> !firewall
[06:14] <Valiant> The goal is to open an exe file with mono, but ubuntu opens it with Archive Manager by default.
[06:15] <MonkeyDust> Valiant  ah, exe
[06:15] <mobilenoob11> Thanks willis you great
[06:15] <hrolf> How can I restart my touchpad driver?
[06:15] <wylde_> !ufw | fleakite
[06:15] <fleakite> Dr_Willis, I searched dashboard for "firewall" but no results
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> you dont  need a gui  for the firewall. ;)
[06:15] <hrolf> Sometimes it behaves strangely when I'm using Banshee but a restart fixes it is there any command to restart the touchpad driver?
[06:15] <MonkeyDust> fleakite  try gufw
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> i dont use the firewall at all..
[06:15] <wylde_> fleakite: ufw is there by default, you just have to enable it. If you want a gui you can try gufw
[06:15] <fleakite> Oh. So it's enabled by default, but just doesn't have a GUI?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  its included.. with no rules by default.. so  its not doing anything by default
[06:16] <wylde_> fleakite: it's there but not enabled.
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  why do you need the firewall?
[06:16] <fleakite> OK. I'm going to install gufw.
[06:17] <MonkeyDust> fleakite  if you have a running local network, ufw or gufw may disturb it
[06:17] <wylde_> fleakite: if you're behind a router, router/modemyou're already firewalled from the internet.
[06:17] <fleakite> So all incoming connections are denied by default even though firewall isn't present?
[06:18] <fleakite> I mean, I don't know much about this .. but I thought it was dangerous to run any system without a firewall
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  thers no services running  by default.. so theres nothing to  onnect to
[06:18] <wylde_> fleakite: if you have a router between you and the internet yes.
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  you are thinking of 'windows'
[06:18] <MonkeyDust> fleakite  look into your router's interface to find out
[06:18] <fleakite> I dunno how to do that :\
[06:18] <wylde_> fleakite: hit up http://grc.com and follow the links to "shieldsup" it'll scan your system and tell you if you have open ports.
[06:19] <fleakite> OK. Will try that out now wylde
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> if you got a router between your pc and the internet.. you most likely have no need to worry about  the  firewall in linux at all...
[06:19] <wylde_> unles you have untrustworthy clients on your internal network.
[06:19] <fleakite> Sorry, I'm just so used to Windows that the idea of running a system without a firewall is scary
[06:19] <Odd-rationale> hrolf: try 'sudo modprobe -r psmouse' to unload the module. And 'sudo modprobe psmouse' to reload it.
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  i normally turn off my windows firewall :)
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> its not stopping people getting in.. my router is allreay dooing that
[06:20]  * wylde_ has no windows >.>
[06:20] <fleakite> What if I use Tor browser?  Should I have a firewall then?
[06:20] <wylde_> ok well, I have a small windows vm......but shhhhh
[06:20] <fleakite> Dr_Willis, Wow. I'm scared to even attempt that
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  MS has you trained to be scared.
[06:21] <hip2theehop> Anyone know of good DVB-t programs?
[06:21] <Guest75733> 1st Timer here. I'm trying to bring back to life an old Compaq Presario laptop. The old hard drive had crashed and I have a new blank harddrive I want to install Ubuntu on. Before putting it in the laptop I'm wondering if I may install Ubuntu onto the drive by USB connecting it to my desktop computer and install Ubuntu then place drive in laptop & if it will work
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> nothing gets to my pc uinless im port forwarding it with the routers settings.  MS can auto set up the port forwarding depending on the router.. so  it can turn off its own  firewall rules ;)
[06:22] <Valiant> fixed, i have to right clik>properties the file so that the Set default button to be visible. Its not visible when doing right click>open with..
[06:22] <fleakite> Cool. GRC Shields Up passed all tests. <Phew!> Thanks you guys cc wylde Dr_Willis MonkeyDust
[06:22] <Corey> Guest75733: No CD or USB on the laptop?
[06:22] <wylde_> :)
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  it should pas reguardless of what os youi are running.. if you got a router
[06:22] <Corey> Guest75733: It could work, but it adds complication.
[06:22] <MonkeyDust> Guest75733  so you want to move the HHD from one machine to the other?
[06:22] <MonkeyDust> HDD*
[06:23] <Guest75733> tried CD but getting Kernel panic error
[06:23] <Corey> Guest75733: Hmm.  That's not likely to go away with different install methods.
[06:23] <wylde_> Dr_Willis: exactly why I sent them there :)  For the reassurance that they were covered
[06:23] <fleakite> but every internet connection will have a router , right?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  a firewall wont stop your windows box from running malwqre/viruses you download.. but it MIgHT keep it from infecting other pcs on your internal lan.  'might'
[06:24] <Valiant> I have a p3 laptop, removed its harddrive, inserted it in my desktop, install ubuntu, then plugged it back to the laptop. No problem so far
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  every internet connection wont.. how aboyut  your routers connectoon? ;)
[06:24] <fleakite> Ah, that's true.
[06:24] <wylde_> fleakite: most not all. But nowadays 99% of residential broadband modems are modem/routers
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  put a pc ip in the DMZ on your router and  its open to the internet also..
[06:25] <fleakite> So do routers come with inbuilt firewalls?
[06:25] <MonkeyDust> fleakite  the modem connects to the internet, the router is the 'smart part' that can be configured
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> most routers have  security features like that.
[06:25] <wylde_> fleakite: NAT (Network Address Translation) is a natural firewall. It's also how routers work :)
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> !nat
[06:26] <Guest75733> ok, must have some other prob w/laptop then. with CD getting Kernel panic error. tried having HHD on desktop & installing then moving HHD to laptop but then got "Bootmgr is missing" error
[06:26] <fleakite> Ah, I have loads to learn!
[06:26] <MonkeyDust> fleakite  we all had, once :)
[06:26] <wylde_> fleakite: you can never know too much :)
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  you dont really need anti virus software or to defrag your linux box either
[06:27] <fleakite> :) I was going to ask about that next .. cool
[06:27] <fleakite> Thanks guys
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> 'windows mindset training'
[06:27] <Valiant> Guest75733, I dont know how to fix that. I tried Ubuntu, Lubuntu, and Kubuntu, all worked fine using that method
[06:27] <fleakite> yeah :)
[06:27] <MonkeyDust> fleakite  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[06:28] <wylde_> meh, if it wasn't for my silly dell  AIO printer I wouldn't even have my little windows vm running.
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  and rember that CASE is ImpOranT in linux
[06:28] <dontknow> the thing that disturbs me about linux that i won't be able to know if computer is infected or not
[06:29] <fleakite> gotcha
[06:29] <Guest83000> guys Need some Help.i am Trying to boot ubuntu from Live cd.when i am move my cursor or trying to open any application then ubuntu got hanged
[06:29] <wylde_> dontknow: there are AV's for linux if you're concerned. Odds are you get rooted before you get a virus though. heh
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> how do you 'really' know your MS system is infected or not.. ;)
[06:29] <fleakite> useful link, thanks. i have to read the "from windows to ubuntu philosophy guide"
[06:29] <Kliment> Hello everyone. I'm the maintainer of a multiplatform wx app and a user of mine is reporting a really strange problem. Since the latest Ubuntu update they are seeing a missing attribute error in several wx classes when accessed from Python.
[06:30] <CoJaBo> dontknow: Unless you're running a webserver, its generally pretty hard to get a virus on Linux :P
[06:30] <ihashacks> Seriosly, especially with things like "Flame" - malware actually digitally signed with certs approved by MS!
[06:30] <Guest75733> Valiant: Thanks. I guess my Compaq has other problems. Thought/hoped it was just old harddrive. I'll have to try something else with it and will try Ubuntu on a diff computer.
[06:30] <Kliment> The same application worked correctly before the latest update, and now wx is broken to the point even wx.version() will not work
[06:31] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, i would know. and there are lots of malicious for windows, but it also has lots of malicious scanner
[06:31] <Kliment> I'm not at all sure how to approach the problem.
[06:31] <mz|`> Kliment: a paste may help ;) and the versions of system/python/else
[06:31] <Kliment> mz|`: https://github.com/kliment/Printrun/issues/235
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> ive had more isues with false positives on windows scanners then i have viruses.. ;)
[06:32] <Kliment> mz|`: Is that useful? I've had another independent report since, I cannot reproduce it myself.
[06:32] <Guest83000> guys Need some Help.i am Trying to boot ubuntu from Live cd.when i am move my cursor or trying to open any application then ubuntu got hanged
[06:32] <wylde_> Kliment: file a bug and be thorough with the info you provide. Maybe hit up the dev's and ubuntu-bugs mailing lists.
[06:32] <Kliment> mz|`: I asked them to install libwxgtk2.8-dev in case it's a dependency issue
[06:32] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, i wasn't useing realtime scanner on windows, but infection shows itself
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> Guest83000:  you chedkec the cd on other pcs/ checked the ios md5? did a mem test?
[06:32] <Kliment> But wx seems to be there, just not all of it
[06:33] <mz|`> Kliment: seems other people also have this issue after an upgrade to 12.04 : http://pastebin.com/NkqqnnaY
[06:33] <wylde_> Kliment: encourage your users to file bug reports then. If there's more than 1 user affected it get automatically confirmed.
[06:33] <dontknow> wylde, i thought those antiviruses was for windows infection spread
[06:33] <Kliment> mz|`: Yes that's one of my users too
[06:34] <MonkeyDust> remember the FLAME virus
[06:34] <wylde_> dontknow: for the most part yes. There's a tiny chance of virus infection in linux. However, you have to be running a pretty darn insecure system for one to actually manage to accomplish anything.
[06:34] <mz|`> Kliment: oh well
[06:35] <mz|`> print wx.version() -> print wx.__version__ ?
[06:35] <Kliment> mz|`: wx.version() works for me
[06:35] <mz|`> but not for your user
[06:35] <Kliment> >>> wx.version()
[06:35] <Kliment> '2.8.11.0 (gtk2-unicode)'
[06:36] <dontknow> wylde_, i am using ubuntu with ufw and router firewall
[06:36] <mz|`> seems the upgrade did remove some packages from the system
[06:36] <Kliment> mz|`: Any idea which ones?
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> reduntant firewalls ;)
[06:37] <wylde_> we're all entitled to be as paranoid as we want :)
[06:37] <dontknow> wylde_, and for browsing js and plugins disabled, it is not probably get infected, just would't know if i got infeted
[06:37] <wylde_> sadly the more redundancy you add is that many more things to break.
[06:37] <MonkeyDust> being paranoid doesnt mean nobody's watching you
[06:38]  * wylde_ searches for his foil cap...
[06:38] <mz|`> Kliment: no, as I have not the upgrade logs ;)
[06:39] <mz|`> you may ask your user though
[06:39] <wylde_> dontknow: you would have to manually monitor you logs, or write yourself a script to watch for suspicious activity.
[06:39] <Kaco> morning
[06:39] <mz|`> dontknow: do not want to turn paranoid ? do not connect to internet.
[06:39] <mz|`> :)
[06:40] <Adam1213> chrome lost all my settings and bookmarks - does it keep backups somewhere / is there a way of restoring them / is there a better place to ask
[06:41] <dontknow> Adam1213, the profile is in .config/chrome
[06:41] <wylde_> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1029952/   <--- yep they're watching! :P
[06:41] <darkodelta> if you sync it whit a google account just login back
[06:41] <Adam1213> it looks like it is stored in .config/chromium/ for me - though not sure what to look for in terms of restoring things
[06:42] <Adam1213> i don't sync it with my google account
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> browser syncing.. greatest idea un ages
[06:42] <largerthanlife> hey
[06:42] <MonkeyDust> guys, what's this other music player, not rhythmbox, not amarok
[06:42] <largerthanlife> where can I download mod_jk.so from?
[06:42] <wylde_> audacious?
[06:42] <glebihan> MonkeyDust, banshee ?
[06:42] <MonkeyDust> banshee, tnx
[06:43] <Phiscribe> songbird?
[06:43] <largerthanlife> my mod_jk.so seems to be corrupt , or doesn't work the it should
[06:43] <glebihan> largerthanlife, install it from the repositories, the package name is libapache2-mod-jk
[06:43] <dontknow> Adam1213, in "Default" folder there must be a " bookmarks.bak" file, it is the backup bookmark
[06:44] <Adam1213> dontknow: there is
[06:44] <wylde_> !find mod_jk.so
[06:44] <Adam1213> * the file exists - i might try copying it over the current bookmarks file
[06:44] <largerthanlife> I did glebihan , went through the tutorial  http://blog.rajeevsharma.in/2010/02/configure-modjk-with-apache-22-in.html  , but it doesnt seem to work
[06:45] <wylde_> !find mod_jk.so | largerthanlife
[06:45] <Adam1213> dontknow: the bookmarks.bak file is also empty
[06:45] <Adam1213> :(
[06:45] <dontknow> Adam1213, do it like that and bookmark should be bacs
[06:45] <largerthanlife> !whereis libapache2-mod-jk
[06:45] <largerthanlife> ubottu: ??
[06:45] <dontknow> Adam1213, you fucked up then
[06:46] <Tm_T> dontknow: language, please
[06:46] <wylde_> largerthanlife: also, since it's an apache mod, you have to enable it 'sudo a2enmod modname' then 'sudo service apache2 restart' after it's installed
[06:46] <glebihan> largerthanlife, do you get any error messages which might help solving the issue ?
[06:46] <dontknow> Tm_T, sorry i am learning english from movies :P
[06:47] <nimesh_accenture> which is the fastest ipc mechanism that i can use to pass control messages between 2 processe
[06:48]  * Adam1213 goes and switches web browsers 
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[06:49] <Kliment> nimesh_accenture: Probably a named pipe
[06:50]  * wylde_ scratches his head and gazes around blankly.
[06:50] <nimesh_accenture> Kliment,  thx
[06:50] <thechef> When I open the dash right when an OpenGL application or a video is playing in the background, it slows down the system. What is going wrong here? (One could almost think Xorg calculates the transparency).
[06:51] <dontknow> why ubuntu homepage says 32bit recommended?
[06:52] <jarray52> How does one remove the fglrx module completely from the system?
[06:54] <dontknow> jarray52, you will probably get different suggestions and non of them will remove completely
[06:54] <largerthanlife> wylde: glebihan I tried to enable  sudo a2enmod mod_jk.so  it says mod_jk.so doesnt exist
[06:55] <jarray52> dontknow: fglrx interferes with the radeon driver. I removed all packages with fglrx in it, and lsmod still shows fglrx after a reboot.
[06:55] <thechef> jarray52, did you ever install it as a non-package?
[06:56] <jarray52> thechef: Not that I know of.
[06:56] <wylde_> largerthanlife: 'sudo apt-get install  libapache2-mod-jk' then use the commands I posted earlier. Make sure you do any needed configuration before enabling it and restarting apache.
[06:57] <largerthanlife> wylde: I have already installed libapache-mod-jk, should I remove it and install it again?
[06:57] <wylde_> largerthanlife: moment.
[06:57] <largerthanlife> sure
[06:57] <thechef> jarray52, maybe you can find the kernel module in the filesystem and then track the packages which contain that file. Some dpkg query should be able to help you find it.
[06:58] <kubanc1> is the graphic card gigabyte gtx 560 1GB OK for latest Ubuntu distro?
[06:58] <kanliot> shoudl be, try the livecd
[07:00] <jarray52> thechef: dpkg --list | grep fglrx doesn't show anything. Grepping for radeon and amd doesn't show any packages that would have the fglrx module.
[07:01] <dontknow> do you think kernel compiling is necessary for performance?
[07:01] <kanliot> i donno dontknow
[07:01] <moin> How can I write CTRL-Z to my application at the terminal without having to shove my app to the backgound?
[07:02] <wylde_> largerthanlife: for the sake of tryingI installed it on a dev server, seems I only had to restart apache afterwards. Still checking though.
[07:03] <largerthanlife> wylde: I see that file in /usr/lib/apache2/modules/ directory ,
[07:03] <largerthanlife> why can't it find while enabling module
[07:03] <largerthanlife> ?
[07:03] <moin> How can I write CTRL-Z to my application at the terminal without having to shove my app to the backgound?
[07:03] <largerthanlife> ok I am going back doing uninstall
[07:04] <Corey> moin: Ctrl-Z sends SIGSTOP, what are you trying to do? :-
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[07:04] <wylde_> largerthanlife: if you do 'sudo a2enmod jk' does it complain that it's already enabled?
[07:05] <largerthanlife> wylde:  no , it says mod_jk.so doesn't exist
[07:05] <wylde_> largerthanlife: what command are you using?
[07:05] <kanliot> moin use the korn shell doesnt have control+z
[07:06] <wylde_> largerthanlife: the one I just posted?
[07:06] <largerthanlife> wylde: yea same command
[07:06] <moin> Corey: I want to send CTRL-Z to a modem terminal application, the modems outputstream depends on that character if you are tring to send/wite a message using the AT command at+cmg[ws], kanliot I on Bash
[07:07] <wylde_> largerthanlife: and... did you install apache from the repos. I have the mod in my /etc/apache2/mods-available andmods-enabled directories
[07:08] <largerthanlife> wylde: yes I installed it from repository,  but it's not there in mods-available and mods-enabled , so i went through the tutorial I pasted you
[07:09] <kanliot> moin use the stty command to change the suspend character
[07:09] <moin> kanliot: ok thanks
[07:09] <largerthanlife> wylde:  and made jk.conf which loads module mod_jk.so from that file
[07:10] <wylde_> largerthanlife: moment, I am going to pastebin the output from when I installed. I had a default jk.conf created by the installer
[07:10] <yoyo> haloo
[07:10] <largerthanlife> ok
[07:11] <gutzmek> i think i may go ubuntu
[07:11] <yoyo> my virtualbox is error console
[07:11] <yoyo> helpme
[07:11] <yoyo> yuhui
[07:12] <MonkeyDust> yoyo  what error? start from the beginning
[07:12] <yoyo> yup
[07:12] <aguilarf> if
[07:12] <gutzmek> slackware is good for servers, ......
[07:13] <yoyo> Iwas installed addquest usb on virtualbox but sysmtem say is error console
[07:13] <wylde_> largerthanlife: http://pastebin.com/cH6XnsMX
[07:13] <yoyo> MonkeyDust help me
[07:14] <wylde_> largerthanlife: also, the output from my etckeeper. http://pastebin.com/5e4U6Pc0
[07:14] <MonkeyDust> yoyo  i use vbox, but what's addquest?
[07:14] <yoyo> when I start and virtualsysmtem say error console
[07:14] <gutzmek> i have a question for buntu users.
[07:14] <yoyo> to isntalled usb
[07:15] <MonkeyDust> yoyo  what dies the error say?
[07:15] <MonkeyDust> does*
[07:15] <yoyo> error console on messagebox
[07:15] <MonkeyDust> yoyo  what's the text of the error?
[07:15] <largerthanlife> wylde: jk.load was there , but not jk.conf , I had to create it manually
[07:15] <yoyo> error console when I start
[07:16] <yoyo> heheh Im forget the text say
[07:16] <yoyo> wait I install again Monkey ok
[07:16] <yoyo> thanks before
[07:16] <wylde_> largerthanlife: hmm, I'm sorry but I'm stumped then.
[07:16] <iko> hay
[07:17] <largerthanlife> wylde: ok thanks anyway :)
[07:25] <heroandtn3> hello world :D
[07:25] <dontknow> anyone here compiling kernel?
[07:25] <gutzmek> lol, hello
[07:25] <dr3mro> hello , I am facing an issue with ubuntu since lucid and i don't know if it's only me .. now i am using precise with all updates .. the issue is when i play any video file with external subtitles in srt format it loads OK but when i fast forward or backward it just disappears and i have to reload the video to make it come back again ?? any workaround to this !!!! thanks in advance !
[07:25] <oCean> !kernelcompile | dontknow
[07:26] <heroandtn3> i have a problem with Firefox 13.0, some CSS 3 not working
[07:26] <gutzmek> ill stick with slack
[07:26] <Kartagis> hi
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> howdies
[07:27] <Kartagis> Ubuntu is not recognizing my microphone. my sound card info is at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5211d98f6c9220c897789e6b0ffffe21b24a741c
[07:27] <Kartagis> can you help?
[07:27] <Kartagis> howdy Dr_Willis
[07:27] <dontknow> oCean, it is old article, i am sure it will give me headache if i follow that guide
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> i dont do much sound trouble shooting. i see similer  quetions  about  mics not working that theres most likely a threar ot 2 on  trouble shooting it at askubuntu.com or the  forums
[07:28] <heroandtn3> -moz-border-radius and -webkit-border-radius not working
[07:28] <Kartagis> Dr_Willis: output works flawlessly though
[07:28] <heroandtn3> :(
[07:28] <Kartagis> heroandtn3: how is that ubuntu?
[07:29] <heroandtn3> yes, Firefox 13.0 on Ubuntu 12.04
[07:29] <heroandtn3> i have upgraded to FF 13.0 yesterday
[07:29] <Kartagis> it's FF issue imo, not ubuntu
[07:30] <Hanbaal> Hello folks.
[07:30] <Hanbaal> Iv'e got a AverTV Volar HD tv card (N11360).
[07:30] <Hanbaal> Is it possible to use this thing with mythtv and lubuntu 12.04?
[07:30] <Hanbaal> I really have little idea how to do this and documentation is all over the place it would seem.
[07:30] <Hanbaal> I think mabey "how do i install a driver" is my first question and "is there one for my system" is my second.
[07:30] <FloodBot1> Hanbaal: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:30] <Hanbaal> Cheers
[07:31] <heroandtn3> Kartagis:  ok
[07:34] <yoyo> mon
[07:34] <yoyo> whre u
[07:34] <yoyo> Failed to open a session for the virtual machine xp. Failed to load VMMR0.r0 (VERR_SUPLIB_WORLD_WRITABLE).
[07:35] <yoyo> my virtual say : Failed to open a session for the virtual machine xp. Failed to load VMMR0.r0 (VERR_SUPLIB_WORLD_WRITABLE).
[07:35] <yoyo> monkeydust
[07:35] <yoyo> my virtualbox say :Failed to open a session for the virtual machine xp. Failed to load VMMR0.r0 (VERR_SUPLIB_WORLD_WRITABLE).
[07:35] <dasleo> yoyo I not your mom
[07:36] <yoyo> not mom dasleao
[07:36] <yoyo> monkeydusty
[07:37] <dasleo> ok what your problem
[07:37] <robert_> hello
[07:38] <dasleo> hello robert
[07:38] <yoyo> anyone
[07:38] <yoyo> hepme
[07:38] <yoyo> my virtual box
[07:38] <Blackshirt> Hello
[07:38] <Guest27250> can i upgrate xubuntu 10 to xubuntu 12?
[07:38] <yoyo> is error when I start to intall xp
[07:38] <yoyo> he say : Failed to open a session for the virtual machine xp. Failed to load VMMR0.r0 (VERR_SUPLIB_WORLD_WRITABLE).
[07:39] <dasleo> Guest27250 reinstall, is recomended
[07:39] <Zally666> Well my tvtuner loads the wrong driver and i wonder how to initiate an autoscan tuner
[07:39] <DJones> Guest27250: From 10.04 or 10.10?
[07:40] <bazhang> Guest27250, what version of xubuntu
[07:40] <Guest27250> 10.10
[07:40] <bazhang> dasleo, thats not helpful
[07:40] <dasleo> yoyo have searched the error in google?
[07:40] <Guest27250> i tryed with usb but i get an error
[07:40] <bazhang> !google | dasleo
[07:41] <yoyo> why ?
[07:42] <DJones> Guest27250: You can update to 12.04, but you will need to go through 11.04, 11.10 and then 12.04 to update
[07:42] <Zally666> So howto autoscan for tuners?
[07:42] <Guest27250> nice ...
[07:43] <Guest27250> i`ll search on google how to and i`ll come back if i cant find
[07:43] <Madpilot> Guest27250, yeah, skipping versions when upgrading is not recommended.
[07:44] <dasleo> may fail to upgrade
[07:45] <Zally666> How do i redetect my tuner with right driver?
[07:45] <Blackshirt> Dasleo, you should know apt system and know how to fix them when something gone to error
[07:46] <Guest27250> Cannot find terminfo entry for 'unknown'.
[07:46] <MonkeyDust> yoyo  https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=40525&start=0
[07:48] <Hanbaal> where should i go to learn about installing a driver for a tv tuner?
[07:48] <Joost> I have an IP address, I want to have a hostname - how would I translate between the two?
[07:49] <durtyburger> so I have a media computer running ubuntu, is there any way to prevent update manager from popping up? can I just uninstall it, if so will that break update functionality?
[07:49] <curiousx> aloha all :D
[07:49] <curiousx> *cricket sounds*
[07:49] <durtyburger> hi
[07:49] <Madpilot> ubottu, tell Hanbaal about tv
[07:49] <Blackshirt> Joost, you can go throught hosts file or use dns system
[07:50] <Joost> Thanks
[07:51] <speakman> Hi folks. Since upgrading to 12.04 my volume changes does not work. It can only mute but no matter which volume level I set, it's still 100%.
[07:52] <MonkeyDust> speakman  in a terminal, type alsamixer, use the arrow keys to navigate and chage volume
[07:52] <MonkeyDust> change*
[07:55] <Zally666> So howto initiate tuner autodetect and load
[07:58] <Curt``> Hello. I was hoping I am blind: is there an option in Keyboard Layout > Options to have shift+capslock map to toggle capslock?
[07:59] <vp18> it took me a while but i FINALLY got Conky and it is gorgeous
[07:59] <yoyo> monkeydusty it tutorial for mac not fot ubuntu
[08:00] <Blackshirt> Nothing
[08:01] <GabrieleV> Hello, I can't mount external USB hard disk anymore in 12.10. When I connect an external USB sata hard disk, I get the error: ata_id[12306]: HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed for '/dev/sdb': Invalid argument. Here are all the syslog messages: http://pastebin.com/AB5se4zj
[08:02] <Madpilot> GabrieleV, if you're actually running the alpha of 12.10, #ubuntu+1 is where you want to be
[08:02] <GabrieleV> Madpilot, Sorry, 12.04 :-(
[08:02] <GabrieleV> Madpilot, I run 12.04
[08:03] <Madpilot> GabrieleV, heh, I wondered. That aside, I'm not much use on USB connection issues, sorry.
[08:04] <GabrieleV> Madpilot, Thnak you. Anyone ?
[08:05] <bazhang> GabrieleV, tried sudo blkid
[08:05] <bazhang> !blkid | GabrieleV
[08:05] <GabrieleV> ubottu, blkid shows only my internal hdd partitions
[08:05] <GabrieleV> Duh !
[08:06] <nds> Hello ,
[08:06] <GabrieleV> bazhang,  blkid shows only my internal hdd partitions
[08:06] <bazhang> GabrieleV, hook it up then run it again. also check dmesg for errors
[08:07] <bytecounter> hi @all
[08:07] <Madpilot> OK, that's a nifty new 12.04/Unity trick. Taking a screenshot now has a camera shutter sound effect. Randomly cool.
[08:08] <bytecounter> I have a question regarding the soundsystem on Lubuntu
[08:08] <GabrieleV> bazhang, Disconnected, reconnected, run sudo blkid: same syslog error, and only my internal hdd partitions showed :-(
[08:08] <Madpilot> bytecounter, just ask, someone will help if they're able
[08:09] <Zally666> So howto reinstall tuner?
[08:09] <bazhang> Zally666, how was it installed in the first place
[08:10] <Zally666> Working out of the box
[08:10] <bazhang> Zally666, whats the make and model of the tuner
[08:10] <Zally666> Dvb-t medion
[08:10] <bytecounter> Yesterday I installed the actual Lubuntu and it works fine. Only a little problem with my sound. I have a 5.1 card but there is 1 active channel only
[08:11] <bazhang> Zally666, thats not a make and model
[08:11] <bazhang> Zally666, what version of ubuntu are you on, and when did it *stop* working
[08:12] <Zally666> No idea then... Ill have to check when i get home
[08:12] <GabrieleV> With 11.10 I had no problems mounting these usb disks ..
[08:12] <diego_> hi, does someone uses subtitle editor? cos i have a problem with it
[08:12] <bazhang> Zally666, you cannot recall when it stopped working?
[08:13] <bazhang> Zally666, or your ubuntu version?
[08:13] <Zally666> Precize and stopped after loading a bogus driver and vdr install
[08:13] <GabrieleV> Trying to boot 11.10 livecd
[08:14] <bazhang> Zally666, it was working, then you installed a driver for something else, and it suddenly stopped working?
[08:14] <Zally666> Yup
[08:14] <feisar> Hi, when I login in to a newly installed 12.04 server I get some info about packages and updates, on another server which was updated to 12.04 I don't get this. Could someone let me know what I'm missing?
[08:14] <bazhang> Zally666, then undo the process? what driver, and for what device
[08:15] <bytecounter> Nobody any idea?
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> feisar:  theres some 'motd' scripts/tools that do that feature. i looked into it ages ago.
[08:15] <Zally666> Vdr howto i followed wanted to install a tuner driver
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> Zally666:  you still fighting that thing?
[08:16] <gemini> prashv
[08:16] <feisar> Dr_Willis: oh right ok cheers
[08:16] <Zally666> Yup can only try in the weekend
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> i think you should write it upo and post to the forums  Zally666
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> then you could referance the posting here.
[08:17] <diego_> I have 2 questions: 1. DOes anyone uses subtitle editor  and can give me a hand? 2. I installed subtitle workshop on wine and it works properly but it doesnt allow me to import videos (says unaceptable video format with every wsingle video), does anybody know how can i fix that? , thanks in advance)
[08:17] <Zally666> But thers no cmd to autoscan hardware?
[08:18] <feisar> Dr_Willis: ah apt-get install update-motd might fix it ... a little strange why that was not installed when I updated
[08:18] <table9> Where do I go to ask my ubuntu hardware questions?
[08:19] <Zally666> :/
[08:19] <feisar> table9: you'd probably want Linux hardware not Ubuntu, try #hardware
[08:19] <Kartagis> diego_: you can use gnomesubtitle
[08:20] <tol> hi guys
[08:20] <feisar> oh no, my mistake update-motd is not installed on a clean 12.04 either
[08:20] <tol> does anybody know a way to disable unity3d via bash?
[08:21] <table9> ty
[08:21] <Zally666> So how do i scan hardware in ubuntu?
[08:22] <sacarlson> Zally666: lshw
[08:22] <Zally666> Thkx
[08:22] <diego_> another question guys, how can i launch an already wine installed app?
[08:24] <Kartagis> !pm | diego_
[08:24] <Raxlords> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mkzh9MlNyrs
[08:24] <diego_> Im sorry im a newbie, i just tried to quotate a name but i sent a pm instead, i didnt want to offend anyone
[08:25] <bazhang> Raxlords, dont paste that here
[08:25] <Kartagis> no problem, that was just to let you know
[08:25] <Raxlords> wups
[08:25] <Raxlords> wrong channel
[08:25] <diego_> Kartagis, thank you
[08:25] <weiyang> hi, all I am using ubuntu 11.04,
[08:25] <weiyang> and want to configure the console
[08:26] <Kartagis> who can do some audio debugging for me? ubuntu doesn't recognise my mic
[08:26] <weiyang> I looked at the page http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-set-up-a-serial-console-on-ubuntu
[08:26] <bytecounter> I have a 5.1 soundcard, but Lubuntu alsa shows me only on channel. How could I activate the other channels?
[08:26] <weiyang> after that, I can see the output from this port
[08:26] <weiyang> but I can't get a shell prompt from this port
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> weiyang:  you  ran a login command to use the port?
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> been years since i last used a serial terminal. ;)
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> i seem to recall having to use 'gettty'  and telling it which serial port to use
[08:29] <adam__> is this a place to get answers? lol
[08:30] <adam__> sweet
[08:30] <weiyang> Dr_Willis,  hmm... i try to login through serial port
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> weiyang:  so you get a Login: promot at the serial terminal?
[08:30] <eutheria> which sticky notes app should i use these days? the non-mono one?
[08:31] <weiyang> Dr_Willis, no, i don't get
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> !info gnote
[08:31] <weiyang> Dr_Willis, while i get output
[08:31] <peterr> alguien sabe como hacer una imagen de un vps y pasarla a otro vps
[08:32] <DJones> !es | peterr
[08:33] <eutheria> gnote doesn't seem to have an indicator,
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> no idea eutheria  i dont use those apps.
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto  weiyang
[08:34] <eutheria> thanks
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> eutheria:  theres supposed to be some other tomboy replacements. but i dont use any these days.
[08:35] <aloy99> hey guys
[08:35] <aloy99> quick question
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> perhaps if ubuntu one ever gets  back the feature to sync notes.
[08:35] <aloy99> why is it that when i try to download ubuntu/kubuntu using windows installer the download stalls?
[08:36] <eutheria> Dr_Willis, it seems that the replacement is not using tomboy
[08:36] <aloy99> other versions work fine
[08:36] <Madpilot> Dr_Willis, tomboy syncs notes just fine to Ubuntu One, far as I can tell
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> aloy99:  you could download the iso file  directly.
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> Madpilot:  i thought they got rid of it.. all my notes are not there any more
[08:36] <aloy99> But then wouldn't I have to mess with the partitions and all that?
[08:37] <sacarlson> aloy99: try a downloader that can restart on fail, or try torrent download
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> aloy99:  you can download the ISO file.. the installer can use that file
[08:37] <weiyang> Dr_Willis, let me have a try
[08:37] <aloy99> I see...where would I place the file after downloading it?
[08:37] <aloy99> As in, in the directory for the installer?
[08:37] <Madpilot> Dr_Willis, I haven't check the online access directly from the U1 website, but syncing to a new tomboy install works. I just did that a few weeks ago when I built this new computer.
[08:37] <Zally666> On the pc
[08:38] <gvo> How do you unmaximize a terminal window in 12.04.  Clicking on the top menu bar with right or left mouse buttons does nothing.
[08:38] <MonkeyDust> gvo  double click it
[08:39] <gvo> MonkeyDust: I double click like I did in 10.04 and it ignores me.
[08:39] <peterr> someone knows how to make an image of a vps and pass it to another vps
[08:39] <ekur> hey; is there a clear guide to removing pulseaudio and replacing it with alsa and jack?
[08:39] <weiyang> Dr_Willis, wow, works
[08:39] <Madpilot> gvo, third button in from the left, the grey one iwth the box on it
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> Madpilot:  well the  U1 web site has Music, files and contacts. no notes..   so that sort of kills off  the main use i had for the notes. :)
[08:40] <ekur> pulse will have latency up to a second..
[08:40] <weiyang> seems the previous one getty is not started
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> checking the U1 client ffor android
[08:40] <gvo> Madpilot: I don't see a button anywhere.
[08:40] <weiyang> Dr_Willis,  thanks :)
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> weiyang:  you have to start the  service to get the login. :)
[08:41] <Madpilot> gvo, in the top bar/menu bar when you hover over it, there should be one orange and two grey buttons on the top leftmost corner
[08:41] <gvo> The menubar just has the user@computername
[08:41] <gvo> Madpilot: Nope hovering over it doesn't change it
[08:41] <weiyang> Dr_Willis, so /etc/event.d/ttyS0.conf, just defines the event?
[08:42] <weiyang> Dr_Willis, while I also think this script does something
[08:42] <gvo> Madpilot: Stays the same hover or no hover.
[08:42] <Madpilot> gvo, hovering over where you see user@computername should get you the terminal's menus and those three buttons. Not there?
[08:42] <abhilash> Please suggest me
[08:42] <gvo> Madpilot: Not there.
[08:42] <abhilash> which one of the good nameserver software for linux
[08:43] <abhilash> for avoiding amplification attack
[08:43] <Madpilot> gvo, odd. Fullscreen terminal should have that, same as any other fullscreen app in Unity
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> weiyang:  no idea. ive not messed with  upstart or services in ages
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> weiyang:  i wiould think there would be a  /etc/init/tty1.conf type file for theserial terinal
[08:43] <gvo> Madpilot: I just discovered something.  If I hold the alt key down and hover, it appears.
[08:43] <abhilash> Does anyone know the best name server software for Linux OS?
[08:44] <diego_> hi im a serious noob, im trying to compile aegisub, i open a terminal, #make and launches this error: no make file found (its a decompresed tar.gz file), anyone can help me?)
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> !info bind
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> !compile | diego_
[08:44] <Madpilot> gvo, that's novel. Do other fullscreen apps require Alt, or do they work?
[08:44] <weiyang> Dr_Willis,  do you think upstart is not easy to use?
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> diego_:  you did extract the archive?
[08:44] <gvo> Madpilot: actually holding the alt key down without hover shows the menu too.  Let me check other apps.
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> weiyang:  i rarely need to  mess with it
[08:44] <diego_> DR yep its extracted
[08:45] <weiyang> Dr_Willis, :)
[08:45] <diego_> damn i still dont know how to quotate
[08:45] <kroonrs> When suspending/resuming, I have gotten the error "EXT3-fs (sdb1): I/O error while writing superblock", but my machine still works.  Now I need to restart - should there be a problem (i.e. is this just a warning message, or a serious error?).  There are various other messages resembling "ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: dma_pool_free buffer-128, f6aee000/36aee000 (bad dma)
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> diego_: you installed the devoper tools?   build-essential package?
[08:45] <Madpilot> Dr_Willis, hmm, Tomboy is now refusing to sync from desktop, with no actual error msg. Fun...
[08:45] <diego_> Dr_Willis, no i didnt
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> Madpilot:  i thought they removed the notes a few months back.
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> diego_:  you need to instggall the proper stuff to actually compile things
[08:46] <diego_> Dr_Willis, sudo apt-get build-essential would work?
[08:46] <Madpilot> Dr_Willis, they worked as recently as 3 weeks ago, because that's about when I built this machine, did a fresh 12.04 install, and imported all my Tomboy notes...
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> !b-e
[08:47] <diego_> Dr_Willis, im unable to find synaptic in this damn unity thing, can u give me a hand?
[08:47] <Madpilot> gvo, Alt does show the menus and buttons in fullscreen apps too; another random Unity easteregg for this evening
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> diego_:  you installed synaptic?
[08:48] <diego_> lol, i was used to have it with gnome
[08:48] <diego_> give me a sec
[08:48] <gvo> Madpilot: Update Manager doesn't show the menu  either hovering or alt key
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> tap alt, type synaptic should show up
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> time to learn to love the HUD and the  Dash
[08:48] <Madpilot> Synaptic isn't installed by default anymore, Dr_Willis & diego_
[08:48] <diego_> Dr_Willis, installing, but i still miss gnome
[08:49] <Madpilot> gvo, Update Mngr might not have a menu; a number of Unity's utilities don't seem to.
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> diego_:  unity isusing gnome 3
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> is useing..
[08:49] <gvo> Madpilot: By the way even though the menu does show up with the alt key, you can't press any of the buttons.  Nothing happens.
[08:49] <diego_> Dr_Willis, ahh this linux thing is more complicated every time i use it xD
[08:50] <gvo> The only way I've found to unmaximize is to Alt-RIghtMouse
[08:50] <diego_> Dr_Willis,  ok im in synaptic, what should i install?
[08:50] <Madpilot> gvo, nifty bug. Try logging out and back in (restarting the desktop in other words) and see if it keeps happening.
[08:50] <Madpilot> gvo, at least Alt+rightmouse still works
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> --- } diego_: you installed the devoper tools?   build-essential package?
[08:51] <Zally666> How do i use mono in monodevelop to load c ansi in c sharp?
[08:51] <diego_> Dr_Willis, just did
[08:51] <gvo> Madpilot: can't log out.
[08:51] <gvo> madpilot: the menubar is non responsive to anything on it.
[08:51] <dr3mro> hello . I want to download the source of linux 3.4 from quantal archives by firefox !! to install it on my precise .. ny help
[08:51] <bazhang> Zally666, thats related to ubuntu how?
[08:52] <asdfasdf_> does anyone know what "/dev/04328632406 is not a block device" means?
[08:52] <Madpilot> gvo, if this was real Gnome (ie, 2.x pre-Unity) I'd say "sudo killall gnome-panel" at this point, but I'm new to Unity too...
[08:52] <Zally666> Bahzang i use ubuntu to do it!
[08:52] <diego_> Dr_Willis,  is launching same error when trying to /make
[08:52] <bhavesh> unity -reset?
[08:53] <asdfasdf_> i'm trying to install a different operating system on a usb device with ubuntu and i keep getting that error: "/dev/USBNAME is not a block device"
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> diego_:  it wouldent be /make
[08:53] <gvo> Madpilot: I think I'll go back to 10.04
[08:53] <diego_> well just "make"
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> diego_:  what did you install exactly? what command are you using exactly.. whats the exact wrror message
[08:54] <diego_> i install the package u told me, im trying to install aegisub
[08:54] <Madpilot> gvo, I stuck with pre-Unity Ubuntu for ages until just a few weeks ago too, still not a huge Unity fan...
[08:54] <diego_> mi message is in french but tells something like "not make file avaliable"
[08:54] <bhavesh> no make file available
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> try 'make --help'
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> thats not the same as makes not insgtalled ;)
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> the source code seems to not  use make perhaps...
[08:55] <diego_> Dr_Willis, comman not found
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> !find make
[08:55] <diego_> lol my linux seem babel tower
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> make should have been included with the build-essential package,
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> you did a 'sudo apt-get install  build-essential' ?
[08:56] <diego_> event not found
[08:56] <diego_> no, i just dl from synaptic
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> diego_:  do the command....
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> just to  double check
[08:57] <diego_> imposible to obtain
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> close synaptic... befor using apt-get on the cli... ;)
[08:58] <gvo> Madpilot: Definitely too unstable to run.  I'm setting this system up for linux newbies to run and there's no way this will work.
[08:58] <diego_> ok, it worked
[08:58] <diego_> but i still cant make
[08:59] <Madpilot> gvo, Unity for me is stable enough, but it's just cramped and, well, odd. We moved my grandmother to Ubuntu several years back, very successfully, but we'll be leaving her machine on 10.04 indefinitely, she would NOT cope gracefully with Unity
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> !find make
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> install the  automake package perhaps.
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> not sure which  one is the normal make command.
[09:00] <bhavesh> Madpilot, she should be able to use gnome-session-fallback, isnt it?
[09:00] <diego_> i gotta go ill keep trying after
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> gnome-fallback may go away in the next release or 2 also.. i thought
[09:00] <bhavesh> there's even MATE
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> or Lubuntu ;)
[09:01] <Madpilot> bhavesh, possibly, but 10.04 works and she knows her way around (at least, around the simplified and customized desktop we set up for her) so why change things?
[09:01] <gvo> Madpilot: I can imagine.  Before I give up I'm going to try gnome-shell
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> i find gnome-shel even weirder then unity in many  ways. ;)
[09:02] <speakman> MonkeyDust: alsamixer isn't much of a solution, but even there the Master volume does not work. PCM does though.
[09:02] <gvo> Dr_Willis: Oh well.  Maybe it will behave better.
[09:03] <Madpilot> we chopped Gnome 2.x down to the bare minimums for her, no extraneous cruft to get in the way. Big Firefox icon, big email icon, pretty much nothing else. Unity doesn't allow that sort of customisation, so it's out...
[09:03] <rileyp> i get tearing in youtube is there a fix? i have nvidia 9200
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> gvo:  cant say ive really had issues with  unity or gnome-shell.
[09:03] <gvo> Dr_Willis: well I just did.
[09:03] <Curt``> Hello. I'm currently using 12.04. I've been trying to find a way to map shift+capslock to toggle caps lock, unsuccessfully. I currently have caps lock as a backspace key.
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> gnome-shell does have some neat features. like how  you  can add o extensions from within the firefox browser and the gnome shell sites
[09:03] <gvo> Dr_Willis: I shudder to think if that happened to my newbies.
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> caps lock as backspace? that is.. different. ;)
[09:04] <rileyp> Curt``:  maybe xmodmap
[09:04] <bhavesh> LOL
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> seen people disable it, or remap it  to  ctrl..
[09:05] <Curt``> Dr_Willis, it is actually quite comfortable :)
[09:05] <eagle_eye> gnome-shell & unity are the future of desktop computing!
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> eagle_eye:  i wonder if android 4 will    push its way into the desktopp as wel
[09:06] <Madpilot> eagle_eye, I'm afraid you might be right...
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> they all have some neat features from the desktop-user point of view.. ;)
[09:07] <eagle_eye> Dr_Willis: probably, ICS is a cool OS!
[09:07] <eagle_eye> Madpilot: :-))
[09:07] <gvo> Gnome-shell looks like it'll work fine.  Thanks Madpilot and Dr_Willis
[09:08] <Madpilot> gvo, no problem, good luck. Do file bug reports against Unity if it keeps being weird...
[09:08] <gvo> Madpilot: If it were reproducible, sure, but a reboot fixed it and I don't know how to make it fail.
[09:09] <gvo> Madpilot: A bug report would most likely be just noise.
[09:09] <Madpilot> gvo, fair enough.
[09:10] <asmod4n> hello, writing a bash script to recursively create new directories based on filenames, the files are named like this fileS01E01.zip how can i check for the S01 part and create directories based on it?
[09:11] <MonkeyDust> asmod4n  better ask in #bash
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> i hate when tv shows are in sub dirs based on their season/ep ;)
[09:16] <Madpilot> subdirectories by season I could understand; subdirectories by episode would seem like overkill
[09:17] <johnathanb> Hi, I'm trying to install libmagickcore3-extra via apt but it's telling me it can't find the package, I've ran apt-get update and still the same thing
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> then the zip file has  100 .rar files.....
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> !find libmagickcore
[09:17] <johnathanb> Anyone have any idea what I need to do or where I should be looking?
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> seems its cooore4 these days jonathaN
[09:18] <johnathanb> E: Couldn't find package libmagickcore4
[09:18] <johnathanb> :/
[09:18] <johnathanb> I don't need to add something spoecific for that into my sources do I?
[09:18] <BenB> I'm on 12.04 and use the "start disk creator" to make a USB stick to install 12.04 on a second PC. this used to work fine when I used 10.04. now, the USB stick doesn't boot, I get "Boot error" from the BIOS", on several different PCs. Even if I use the same USB stick and image that worked before.
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> !info libmagickcore4
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> johnathanb:  what uubuntu release/version are you using?
[09:21] <Womkes> dovecot is the default imap server for ubuntu right ?
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> BenB:  yoi can 'dd' the iso  file straight  to the usb to  make a bootable instsall usb.  as an alterative to the disk creator tool
[09:22] <BenB> Dr_Willis: ok, thank. then, I still use "USB-HDD" in the BIOS as boot medium, correct? or USB-CDROM?
[09:22] <johnathanb> Dr_Willis: Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS
[09:22] <johnathanb> Release:	10.04
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> BenB:  not sure.. is would think usb-cdrom
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> johnathanb:  it may  be a difernt # in that release
[09:23] <Curt``> rileyp, this may be a silly question but.. how do i install xmodmap? apt-get install xmodmap says: "Package xmodmap is not available, but is referred to by another package." ... "However the following packages replace it:\  x11-xserver-utils:i386 x11-xserver-utils"
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> !find xmodmap
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> !find xmodemap
[09:24] <rileyp> Curt "However the following packages replace it:\  x11-xserver-utils:i386 x11-xserver-utils"
[09:24] <rileyp> Curt``:  so how about apt get install x11-xserver-utils
[09:25] <Curt``> should i try those? :P
[09:25] <rileyp> google i spose
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> install vigor instead.  ;
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> !info  vigor
[09:25] <rileyp> i used xmodmapa few years ago now so i forget
[09:27] <BenB> Dr_Willis: do I dd to sdb or sdb1 ?
[09:27] <diego_> hi, the sound in every wine aplication i execute is awfull (like deformed because being too fast) can anyone help me?
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> BenB:  the whole drive.. so sdb
[09:27] <BenB> Dr_Willis: ok
[09:28] <diego_> Dr_Willis, i gave up compiling, now im trying to fix the sound in wine xD, thanks for the help before
[09:33] <laumonier> hi ive got a problem with ubuntu with gnome when i reduce firefox the window disapear but the process still goes on how can i do to fix it???thx
[09:33] <booboo33> how do i install virtualbox dkms?
[09:34] <booboo33> i've already installed virtualbox
[09:34] <Hanbaal> is there a channel for mythtv here?
[09:35] <ikonia> Hanbaal: #mythtv-users
[09:36] <Hanbaal> ty
[09:36] <diego_> Hi, my sound works awfull with wine and it doesnt let me change the audio driver, any idea?
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> !wine
[09:42] <ShingChingMing> how can I use dvorak keyboard layout in ubuntu?
[09:43] <garrido> Hello Everybody, i am looking for the way of "permanent" iptables (in terminal) and.. well in google i only got problems saving
[09:44] <ShingChingMing> wikipedia says you can switch to dvorak easily but i couldnt find a way
[09:44] <ShingChingMing> can someone help?
[09:44] <bhavesh> Is there some problem with game sounds running with wine?
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> !firewall | garrido
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> !keybord
[09:45] <ShingChingMing> !keyboard
[09:45] <garrido> ubottu i am using iptables.... but i need to "save" them...
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> garrido:  the docs may  show you  how....
[09:45] <garrido> Dr_Willis I just read 6 tutorials...
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> garrido:  and ubottu  is a bot. :)
[09:45]  * largerthanlife :* ubottu 
[09:45] <garrido> ok..
[09:46] <bhavesh> wine sounds are so khar khar khar
[09:46] <bhavesh> I guess it needs a audio driver
[09:46] <bhavesh> an*
[09:46] <Dr_Willis> bhavesh:  when they should be 'pew pew pew'  ? ;)
[09:46] <bhavesh> lol no
[09:46] <bhavesh> they are not clear
[09:47] <Dr_Willis> so they are more like 'Puw Puw Puw' :P
[09:47] <ShingChingMing> lol
[09:47] <bhavesh> yea maybe..
[09:48] <Dr_Willis> you are the second  person to ask  about  sound  on wine in the last hr. :)
[09:48] <Dr_Willis> i dont even use wine with games. so  no  idea on its sound  settings.
[09:48] <bhavesh> lol
[09:49] <largerthanlife> I don't have sound problem with wine , but video problem, the video simply hides and my screen goes blank
[09:49] <jussi> bhavesh: run winecfg and check out the sound settings there
[09:50] <acme> hello
[09:50] <bhavesh> jussi: yea it shows winealsa driver, and all things on system default. When I click on Test sound it sounds like fa*t
[09:50] <acme> please i need help
[09:51] <bhavesh> acme, ask your question, a person faimilar with you issue may help you.
[09:51] <rileyp> tearing in youtube is there a solution?
[09:52] <acme> i have installed a driver for my nvidia ti 4200 graphics and after reboot the system wont start
[09:52] <ShingChingMing> does anyone here use programmers dvorak?
[09:52] <eagle_eye> acme: which OS?
[09:53] <ShingChingMing> there are too many options in the keyboard layout settings for dvorak
[09:53] <acme> ubuntu 2.6
[09:53] <bhavesh> wow
[09:53] <ikonia> acme: there is no ubuntu 2.6
[09:53] <acme> im new to ubuntu
[09:53] <eagle_eye> acme: u mean kernel 2.6?
[09:54] <acme> :(
[09:54] <acme> yes
[09:54] <iceroot> http://pastebin.com/Fra2YvpK  is that telling me my system got killed (gui was dead, ssh still working) that i am out of ram?
[09:54] <eagle_eye> acme: how did you install the driver?
[09:54] <bhavesh> acme, I had issues with Graphics driver before. It may show black screen on boot. Here's what I did: Right click on black screen > change desktop background > All settings > Additional Drivers > Disable the driver currently active
[09:55] <acme> it says there is no nvidia kernel
[09:56] <eagle_eye> !who | acme
[09:56] <bhavesh> acme: then you might try installing the Non-recommended driver i.e the version-current. It might or might not work.
[09:56] <diego_> hi, ive installed an application with wine, but know i dont know how to launch it
[09:57] <bhavesh> diego: you can search in wine directory . In /home/yourname/.wine
[09:57] <bhavesh> diego_ *
[09:57] <bhavesh> diego_ : Sorry I mean /home/.wine
[09:57] <acme> but can i turn the system on <bhavesh>
[09:57] <diego_> thanks
[09:58] <bhavesh> acme: Do you get a black screen after boot?
[09:58] <eagle_eye> !nvidia
[09:58] <eagle_eye> !nvidia | acme
[09:58] <acme> all i get is fatal errors bhavesh
[09:59] <acme> yes eagle eye
[10:00] <acme> the problem is my card is outdated very old
[10:00] <acme> its a geforce ti 4200
[10:01] <acme> not supported by nvidia anymore
[10:02] <diego_> bhavesh, i cant find the folder anymore :S
[10:02] <diego_> bhavesh, it dissapeared or something
[10:03] <bhavesh> diego: the .wine folder is hidden
[10:03] <eagle_eye> diego_ maybe it's hidden
[10:03] <diego_> so how can i see it?
[10:03] <eagle_eye> ls -a
[10:03] <bhavesh> diego_: click ctrl + H to see it
[10:03] <diego_> thanks
[10:03] <acme> hello
[10:04] <diego_> now i tried to create a direct acces in the desktop but wont work, is it normal?
[10:08] <terminhell> ello ello
[10:14] <hhhaaa> hi
[10:14] <gartral> ok everyone, it's rare I have too pick your collective brain, but i'm *STUMPED* I'm looking for a music player that can broadcast via shoutcast (for private usage) simply and quickly, a MUST is having the ability too alter the playlist in as few steps as possible.. can anyone here help me?
[10:15] <laumonier> how can i convert a .pdf in .doc?
[10:15] <hhhaaa> how to install wine?
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> laumonier  cant libreoffice do that?
[10:16] <terminhell> hhhaaa: sudo apt-get install wine
[10:17] <terminhell> laumonier: open the .pdf in libreoffice and export/save as possibly
[10:17] <laumonier> when i open it with libreoffice its crypted
[10:18] <laumonier> should i install a package with libreoffice?
[10:18] <terminhell> can you copy/paste its contents?
[10:20] <laumonier> http://pastebin.com/mWTbmi15
[10:20] <hhhaaa> how to run a program with wine in command line?
[10:20] <zykotick9> hhhaaa: "wine /path/to/foo.exe"
[10:21] <terminhell> hhhaaa: wine program name
[10:21] <gartral> terminhell: epic nick is epic'
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> hhhaaa  isnt the purpose of wine / windows to use a gui?
[10:21] <terminhell> gartral: >.< thanks, not many get it
[10:21] <Daditos> MonkeyDust, why would  it?
[10:22] <gartral> MonkeyDust: they're rare, but a few programs in windows are specifically designed too be run through the terminal..
[10:23] <terminhell> laumonier: so its encrypted as well, HMM not sure, you could try opening the pdf in inkscape maybe?
[10:23] <gartral> the bukkit Minecraft server for instance does nothing unless it's run trhough terminal or a batch file
[10:24] <laumonier> nvm ill find another way thx
[10:25] <laumonier> also ive got another problem:with ubuntu with gnome when i reduce firefox the window disapear but the process still goes on how can i do to fix it???thx
[10:25] <ikonia> laumonier: that's expected behaviour, it's minimising the window
[10:25] <ikonia> laumonier: alt+tab to get it back
[10:27] <laumonier> ikonia,  no it desapear also
[10:27] <ikonia> laumonier: that's how minimising works in gnome now
[10:27] <laumonier> ikonia, cant see the window nowhere but in the processus it still runing
[10:27] <ikonia> laumonier: alt+tab
[10:28] <laumonier> ikonia,  when i do alt tab there is no firefox
[10:28] <ikonia> laumonier: what makes you think the process is running ?
[10:28] <laumonier> in top there is firefox
[10:28] <ikonia> laumonier: sounds like you may need to log a bug
[10:29] <bluelf> I installed ubuntu 12.5 on my new fujitsu lifebook l series and touchpad doesnt scroll, anyone knows a possible fix?
[10:30] <gartral> bluelf: ubuntu 12.5?
[10:30] <bluelf> gartral, 12.05
[10:31] <ikonia> 12.04
[10:32] <windix> ubuntu version XX.YY (XX=year, YY=month, YY choose from 04, 10 since two releases each year)
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> gartral  04 is april, the 4th month, when it was released
[10:34] <k-rAd> openvpn drops 8 packets every 20 hits on maverick and oneiric through gufw not ufw
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> bluelf  ^^
[10:34] <gartral> MonkeyDust: i'm well awear awear of that
[10:35] <k-rAd> on port 708 udp it drops 8 packets every 20 hits
[10:35] <DarsVaeda1> hi, my update manager crashed while applying changes for "bind9" now I can not close it or anything, how do I end that?
[10:35] <bluelf> MonkeyDust, yeah its 12.04
[10:35] <k-rAd> openvpn drops 8 packets every 20 hits on maverick and oneiric through gufw not ufw on maverick and oneiric
[10:36] <efie> is there a command which I can put in the shell to find out which Ubuntu version I am using?
[10:36] <DJones> !version | efie
[10:36] <k-rAd> bank security is at stake
[10:37] <bluelf> any one knows how to get the scroll working in fijitsu lifebooks , I searched their sites no linux drives available there
[10:37] <efie> ubottu: thanks!
[10:37] <k-rAd> social security numbers would be jeopardized on gufw on mav and oneirk
[10:37] <LjL> k-rAd: have you filed a bug?
[10:38] <k-rAd> 708 tcp as well
[10:38] <k-rAd> doing it informally now key is south africa
[10:38] <hhhaaa> LjL are you there
[10:38] <hhhaaa> ?
[10:38] <LjL> it appears i am
[10:38] <efie> is there a command which I can put in the shell to find out if the Privacy Extensions regarding IPv6 are activated?
[10:38] <hhhaaa> it appears i am
[10:38] <LjL> oh it's you, isn't it
[10:38] <hhhaaa> oh it's you, isn't it
[10:45] <bhavesh> gnome-tweak-tool does not show extensions list and says could not load extensions list in terminal
[10:45] <rileyp> Haanbal are you in the usa?
[10:46] <melkor> Can anybody here successfully cancel a print job? I cancelled one yesterday because the printer wasn't online, and it printed today when the printer came online.
[10:48] <kelton> Hello
[10:48] <sacarlson> melkor: did you check your local cups web site?
[10:49] <melkor> sacarlson: I am looking at that now.
[10:49] <sacarlson> melkor: I think you can cancel print sessions there 127.0.0.1:631
[10:50] <trapni> Hey, when a package upgrades comes in via `aptitute upgrade`, how do I get the changelog of what has changed?
[10:50] <melkor> sacarlson: Ill give it a shot thanks.
[10:52] <omit> Hi everyone
[10:53] <omit> I just updated my xubuntu, there seems to be a new kernel version, but now my computer won't boot at all (black screen after the GRUB kernel selection screen)
[10:53] <omit> Is this widespread or just me?
[10:55] <auronandace> !nomodeset | omit
[10:56] <bluelf> can anyone help me get my touchpad working fully for ubuntu 12.04 in fujitsu lifebook l
[10:57] <c0deMaster> how to force update apt-get
[10:57] <bluelf> I cant scroll
[10:57] <bluelf> when I try to run synclient it gives errors
[10:58] <omit> auronandace:  i added nomodeset but it still fails
[10:58] <auronandace> c0deMaster: i assume you have dependency issues
[10:58] <c0deMaster> auronandace, GPG error
[10:59] <auronandace> c0deMaster: what happens when you run sudo apt-get update?
[11:00] <fabio> hello, im planning to upgrade samba in my production ubuntu server
[11:00] <c0deMaster> auronandace, some URLS work fine and the rest gives GPG error and Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_partner_source_Sources.IndexDiff
[11:00] <auronandace> omit: what graphics card do you have?
[11:00] <fabio> how can i avoid daemons restart when i upgrade in aptitude?
[11:00] <omit> auronandace: a chipset; but it looks like my hdd is failing
[11:01] <omit> auronandace: there's no sound at all from it
[11:01] <auronandace> c0deMaster: hmm, i've never used the partner repo sorry
[11:01] <bhavesh> gnome-tweak-tool does not work, it does not even start unless started with terminal and root permissions
[11:01] <bhavesh> shell extensions list does not open
[11:01] <c0deMaster> auronandace, do you know how to force apt-get to update all repo from scratch?
[11:02] <auronandace> omit: can you boot from a livecd to check it?
[11:02] <bhavesh> I tried reinstalling but didn;t work
[11:02] <bhavesh> also restarting ubuntu didn't help
[11:02] <dileepa> hi
[11:02] <omit> auronandace: I'll try this when I'm back home
[11:02] <omit> thank you very much for your help
[11:02] <omit> Cheers
[11:02] <auronandace> c0deMaster: no, you could try just disabling the partner repo, update then re-enable it
[11:03] <dileepa> hey i am new to this xchat
[11:03] <odinswand> help! i can't install #snownews!
[11:04] <auronandace> odinswand: what? are you trying to join a channel?
[11:04] <odinswand> no, im just confused
[11:04] <auronandace> odinswand: /join #nameofchannel
[11:05] <odinswand> snownews is an application i want to install on my ubuntu
[11:05] <odinswand> but i cant find it in aptitude for some reason
[11:05] <auronandace> odinswand: never heard of it. what does it do?
[11:05] <odinswand> its a terminal rss aggregator
[11:06] <auronandace> !find snownews | odinswand
[11:06] <odinswand> hmm i think it should be its own package
[11:31] <gvo> You can't argue with ubottu
[11:31] <rowling> oh dear
[11:31] <rowling> oh dear
[11:31] <rowling> oh dear
[11:31] <FloodBot1> rowling: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:32] <LjL> maybe i should look before pressing Enter next time
[11:34] <gvo> LjL it's OK you just wasted a few electrons.
[11:34] <vikas_> hay does ne 1 have idea about murrine
[11:35] <auronandace> vikas_: ne1 is not proper english
[11:35] <vikas_> sorry :P
[11:36] <hack> whats up
[11:36] <vikas_> :(
[11:36] <hack> Ö)
[11:36] <hack> www.google.com
[11:36] <gvo> hack do you have a ubuntu support question?
[11:36] <DJones> hack: Do you have a support question?
[11:37] <hack> yes
[11:37] <vikas_> hay does ne 1 have idea about murrine
[11:37] <LjL> !anyone
[11:37] <hack> how i can install paltalk its pc program
[11:37] <DJones> !wine | hack If its a Windows package, wine will let you install some windows app's,
[11:38] <hack> i do it but its chat program
[11:38] <hack> you can chek it
[11:38] <hack> www.platalk.com
[11:39] <hack> and
[11:39] <hack> one ,ore
[11:39] <hack> i woona to shear my desktop on http page
[11:40] <DJones> hack: Its not something I've seen, but this page has instructions on how to install paltalk on Ubuntu 11.10 http://ubuntuarmy.wordpress.com/2011/12/04/paltalk-now-working-perfectly-on-wine/ That should give you a good start in getting it running
[11:41] <eagle_eye> !im
[11:41] <eagle_eye> !im | hack
[11:42] <auronandace> hack: as eagle_eye suggests it is better to use native alternatives
[11:43] <hack> thanx
[11:43] <hack> for help
[11:43] <hack> i will stay here tu tech me
[11:43] <hack> thanx ubuntu
[11:49] <vikas_> can some one tell me good channel for gtk2 related stuff
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> try #gnome - but gtk2 is  well.. basically getting replaced by gtk3
[11:51] <vikas_> k thnx
[11:52] <dontknow> can i import my consciousness into computer by using ubuntu? :D
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> How do you know you havent allready done that.......
[11:54] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, did you say to me?
[11:55] <vikas_> seems ppl have become lsy :(
[11:57]  * Dr_Willis drinks his ovaltine.
[11:58] <p5yx> hi can you tell me how i can install lib32stdc++6? seems that apt-get can't find the package...
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> !find lib32stdc
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> package name seems to be  lib32stdc++6
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> !info  lib32stdc++6
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> heh - go figure. :)
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> !info lib32stdc++6
[11:59] <p5yx> ??
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search lib32stdc lib32stdc++6
[12:00] <deper29> I just bought a new HDD and I've partitioned it on /dev/sdc and I understand how to manually mount it. How can I have it so it automatically mounts so each time? I would relocate my home folder to this drive if possible
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> lib32stdc++6 - GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (32 bit Version)
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> deper29:  make a fstab entry for it.
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> then you can copy your old home to it.. then remount it to /home
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> !changehome
[12:01] <deper29> Dr_Willis, how to I make an fstab entry?
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> thers some bot factoid/guide on moveing home
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> !fstab
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> !switchhome
[12:01] <deper29> Dr_Willis, thanks :D
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> !movehome
[12:01] <Free_Bullets> !help
[12:03] <curt> Hello. I have an MSI FX603-018US ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152270 ) and am having issues getting the nvidia gpu working. Nothing is listed under the "Additional Drivers" so I downloaded it form the nvidia website ( http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/44868 ). After running, appearntly it thinks i do not have an "NVIDIA GPU supported by the 295.53 NVIDIA Linux graphics driver". I did a "sudo lshw > 'some file'" and did a searc
[12:03] <curt> h for nvidia and did not see anything. This concerns me, and I'm not sure what to do...
[12:03] <FloodBot1> curt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> curt:  is this a laptop with that optimus chipset stuff?
[12:06] <curt> Yes afaik. I read that it is not supported, however I was hoping I could comprimize by needing to restart my computer after some input by me.
[12:06] <fidel> curt: bumblebee might be an option for optimus on linux
[12:07] <fidel> on the other hand - i would ask myself if you really need the nv-part on the linux side. if not - disabling the big nv-gfx saves a ton of power (disabling gave me about 1 additional hour of energy)
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> reading the reviews.. yes it has Optimus....
[12:09] <curt> fidel, I was hoping there could be a way to switch by somehow ignoring hardware and unignoring hardware or something, and then restarting my computer. This would result in most use the integrated.
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> curt:  id check the forums and the askubuntu.com site. someone Might have figured out a way
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> could be bios settings to turn it off also
[12:11] <fidel> and checkout bumblebee ;)
[12:11] <curt> I shall thanks.
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> the few reviews at the site above state they have had issues with it in linux also.. but  bumble bee is constantly impoveing
[12:12] <fidel> i actually never really tried to use the nv card in linux - as i have no use for it. so totally disabling it was the right solution here ;)
[12:12] <Dr_Willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1852757.html forum post on that exact laptop it seems
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> Optimus is the newest 'winmodem' disaster to hit computer hardware.  :)
[12:13] <asmom> hey guys, while moving a partition with GParted, my ubuntu crashed while it was doing the proccess so the operation failed. The partition I tried to move has a windows installation on it and was on the right side of an unallocated space, tried moving it to the left, now it considers the unallocated space part of the partition, it's full with errors and the windows installation on it won't start
[12:13] <asmom> after choosing it on Grub2. how can i fix this now, could fsck command from a livecd help or should I do something else?
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> gparted failing during the middle of a resize is not a good thing. the sure fix would be a reinstall of windows.
[12:15] <curt> It appears as though osc1882 at least has the hardware listed. Strangely, I dont even see it.
[12:17] <asmom> Dr_Willis, i don't mind about the windows installation, but the whole file system is corrupted now
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> You may have to repation the hd or at least reformat it.
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> repartition
[12:17]  * Dr_Willis installs spellcheck 1.0 in his head
[12:18] <p5yx> how can i find out if my os is 32bit or 64bit?
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> check the kernel i belive
[12:19] <alankila> p5yx: try identify running kernel: uname -a
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> uname -a
[12:19] <p5yx> thx
[12:19] <szal> p5yx: uname -a <- "i686" = 32bit, "x86_64" = 64bit
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> Linux Speedbuntu 3.2.0-25-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 23 20:30:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> is mine - 64bit.
[12:20] <p5yx> ... i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[12:20] <p5yx> mean 32bit right?
[12:21] <iceroot> p5yx: yes
[12:21] <fasta_> I use KDM. Which package do I need to have installed to be able to start unity from KDM?
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> fasta_:  you installed kubuntu?
[12:22] <fasta_> (I already have unity installed, but when I click the Ubuntu session, it doesn't find it)
[12:22] <fasta_> Dr_Willis: I originally installed Ubuntu, and the I installed the Kubuntu packages.
[12:22] <fasta_> then*
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> kdm should show 'ubuntu' in its list of s4essions
[12:22] <curt> Dr_Willis, fidel: I ran into Ironhide ( http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/610 ) and will see what will result of it
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> I thought Bumblebee replaced ironhide
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> or am i confused. ;P
[12:24] <curt> you are right
[12:26] <fasta_> Dr_Willis: yes, it does show it, but it doesn't work.
[12:26] <vangeit> hello
[12:27] <Bower^> how can i printf the output of a command like pwd?
[12:29] <jrib> Bower^: echo foo$(pwd)bar
[12:30] <Bower^> cheers jrib
[12:30] <Bower^> :)
[12:31] <dontknow> ##philosophy
[12:31] <dontknow> sory
[12:33] <sallking_> Does anyone know that empathy and gnome-shell3.4 have  a conflict
[12:35] <aboudreault> hi, any idea when I tried to configure a display in 1920x1080... it sets the screen in 1680xyyyy ? I can see it in the menu on the screen. I have been using that screen with the proper mode since a year with another pc
[12:39] <greek44m892> hi
[12:40] <greek44m892> hi any single woman
[12:41] <auronandace> greek44m892: this is ubuntu support
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> greek44m892  press alt-f4 to get a list
[12:42] <gpetrakis> Why I can't click menus in Firefox 13?
[12:43] <Sidewinder1> greek44m892, Try #defocus for that. ;)
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> gpetrakis  i have FF 13, menus are ok
[12:44] <gpetrakis> MonkeyDust: So what did I do wrong?
[12:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hi, if I change fstab so that normal users can mount a certain filetype using '/dev/sd* vfat ro,users,noauto,unhide' as a line in fstab (without the quotes) will i need to relog or just open a new terminal?
[12:49] <Ileden> My computer has recently started having a weird wlan connectivity problem: At random, it disconnects from my wireless network, and no longer manages to authenticate. After reboot, everything works always.
[12:49] <Ileden> What commands should I run for diagnostics before & after it happens next time, to pinpoint the issue.
[12:49] <Ileden> ?
[12:50] <gpetrakis> Ileden: Do you have every update and the latest kernel?
[12:50] <compdoc> WhereIsMySpoon, fstab mounts drives at boot, but you can force a mount after making changes
[12:50] <Ileden> gpetrakis: not sure. I have recent updates, but I haven't done a dist upgrade for a while.
[12:51] <gpetrakis> Ileden: You don't need to really.
[12:51] <kndavid> I got another one of those unity desktop 'malfunctions' the thing is I cant get a complete view of the guake terminal, the panel blocks some part of it and I cant figure out  a way out
[12:52] <^_^Rob> quit
[12:53] <Ileden> gpetrakis: if kernel gets updates to latest without distribution upgrades, then I do have the latest (or a few days ago at least).
[12:53] <Pici> Ileden: You should be doing dist-upgrades regularly if you intend to keep your install fully up to date.  A dist-upgrade does NOT bring you to a new Ubuntu release.
[12:53] <Pici> !dist-upgrade
[12:54] <Ileden> Pici: ah..
[12:57] <Ileden> I guess I should upgrade the latest ubunutu release too at some point.
[12:58] <auronandace> Ileden: 12.04 is good, i can even tolerate unity now
[12:59] <Ileden> auronandace: Well, I switched to xubuntu during the whole unity chaos...
[12:59] <mlpokn> Hey guys. I cannot install Flash through Flash-Aid on Xubuntu: I am getting: libflashplayer.so
[12:59] <mlpokn> [sudo] password for dasdasd:
[12:59] <mlpokn> mv: cannot move `libflashplayer.so' to `/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/': No such file or directory
[12:59] <auronandace> Ileden: xfce remains my favourite, but unity is now usable for me
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> make the directory perhaps?
[12:59] <mlpokn> how?
[12:59] <mlpokn> :|
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> sudo mkdir /path/
[13:00] <mlpokn> ok, ty
[13:00] <diluted> mkdir /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> im not sure if flash aid is a good idea.. or bad idea...
[13:00] <mlpokn> cannot create directory `/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/': No such file or directory
[13:00] <Ileden> auronandace: Good to know they've got it working. I did try using it at the forced release, tried adapting my workflow, but it just felt like I was playing with the computer, not actually using it.
[13:00] <mlpokn> so?
[13:01] <mlpokn> done
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> mkdir  has some parrent option i think to make all the sub dirs also.
[13:01] <mlpokn> made mozilla first, and then plugins
[13:01] <Dr_Willis>  -p would make them all. :)
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> sounds tome like you didenet have mozilla installed perhaps
[13:02] <mlpokn> Mozilla was installed.
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> i guess that would be firefox package installed
[13:02] <mlpokn> reinstalled it and it still didn't create those folders
[13:02] <mlpokn> Works now,;)
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> got lots of stuff here in my /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[13:03] <mlpokn> like what? porn :_?
[13:03] <mlpokn> :))
[13:03] <Ileden> Yeah, maybe I should do all the upgrading I can, and see if the problem disappears by magic. :)
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> 1 gecko-mediaplayer-dvx.so
[13:03] <sddhrthrt> Dr_Willis: Hey, Flash videos dont load at all on my computer. ideas?
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> and other .so files
[13:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> compdoc, the manual of `mount' says that i can modify fstab to allow non superuser mounts
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> sddhrthrt:  how did you install flash?
[13:04] <auronandace> Ileden: what release are you on?
[13:04] <sddhrthrt> Dr_Willis: installed firefox, downloaded libflashplayer.so and put it in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> WhereIsMySpoon:  i belive thats the 'users' option in fstab
[13:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> Dr_Willis, yes
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> sddhrthrt:  why iddent you use the package manager tools to install flash?
[13:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> Dr_Willis,  i did this: /dev/sd* vfat ro,users,noauto,unhide
[13:04] <Ileden> auronandace: 11.10.
[13:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> do i now need to logout and back in?
[13:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> as in i put that line in the fstab
[13:05] <sddhrthrt> Dr_Willis: i tried both ways
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> WhereIsMySpoon:  fstab is not related to 'logging out/back in'
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> WhereIsMySpoon  or sudo mount -a
[13:05] <mlpokn> sddhrthrt. install flash-aid plugin for Firefox
[13:05] <rileyp> tearing in youtube is there a solution?
[13:05] <paolo> ciao
[13:05] <sddhrthrt> Dr_Willis: done.
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> mount -a wont work.. notiuce the NOAUTO option :)
[13:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> MonkeyDust, i dont have vfat in my fstab
[13:05] <auronandace> Ileden: normally i fresh install with any new release
[13:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> as a normal mount
[13:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> i mount as needed
[13:05] <sddhrthrt> Dr_Willis: tried both 32-bit and Adobe website versions of flash..
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> WhereIsMySpoon:  whats your complete fstab line? that one you gave is not correct
[13:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> Dr_Willis, oh, that is the complete line
[13:06] <sddhrthrt> Dr_Willis: still it's not working.
[13:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> Dr_Willis, then i made it wrong :))
[13:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> Can you tell me how it should be?
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> WhereIsMySpoon:  look at the examples in fstab. :) you are missing WHERE to mount it
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> and you dont use wildcards....
[13:06] <Ileden> auronandace: Yeah, I do it too when I have the time :) Anyway, got to go. I'll do the upgrades, at least a dist-upgrade... seems like some kernel packet is being held back on regulard upgrade, maybe that fixed the issue. Bye!
[13:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> Dr_Willis, oh, i thought this option just made it possible for any user to use the mount command to mount vfat type systems
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> why would you use readonly option also?
[13:07] <mlpokn> Guys, any way of getting gopenvpn installed? Tried it on ubuntu and it didn't work
[13:07] <sddhrthrt> mlpokn: done. tried both versions of flash availabe in it :/
[13:07] <mlpokn> what does it say?
[13:07] <auronandace> Ileden: have fun
[13:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> Dr_Willis, basically what im looking for is a way of mounting a device then having any user (or a specific user) be able to modify files on that device, not just root
[13:07] <sddhrthrt> mlpokn: it completes the installaion.. but when i open a vdeo in firefox, it's again nothing :/
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> WhereIsMySpoon:  your fstab line is totally wrong in a great many ways. ;)
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> !fstab
[13:07] <mlpokn> try on youtube?
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> WhereIsMySpoon:  'ro' = read only
[13:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh :D
[13:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> i will remove that
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> WhereIsMySpoon:  and for removeable vfat/ntfs I thought that was the default anyway
[13:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> Dr_Willis, nope, only root can `mount'
[13:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> then if i try to, for example, touch a file
[13:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> it says no permissions
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> WhereIsMySpoon:  using the GUI - your user can access them fully?
[13:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> Dr_Willis, this is via console
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> WhereIsMySpoon:  the 'user' option lets users mount things. you may still need to set other options to give them proper permissions.
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> is this vfat only? or ntfs also?
[13:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> Dr_Willis, just vfat
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> the ntfs-config tool can also automacally add entries i think for ntfs/vfat
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> and set the auto mounting options
[13:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> Dr_Willis, but it doesnt matter if i allow ntfs as well, tho im only interested in vfat
[13:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> i dont want auto mount
[13:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> i specifically want to be able to mount manually
[13:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> vfat type filesystems
[13:10] <sddhrthrt> ehh... anybody? Anybody getting blank screen on ubuntu while playin flash videos?
[13:10] <mlpokn> try on youtube?
[13:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> and let a normal user be able to modify them
[13:10] <mlpokn> Guys, any way of getting gopenvpn installed? Tried it on ubuntu and it didn't work
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> !vfat
[13:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> !FUSE
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> fuse is used by the ntfs-3g, not needed for just vfat
[13:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> !NTFS-3g
[13:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> ntfs is not what i need
[13:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> i need vfat
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> the 2 are intertwined...
[13:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> Dr_Willis, also, no i cannot create files via the GUI or console
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> the factoid above mentions using the udisks command.
[13:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> Dr_Willis, the problem is not that i cannot write to the systems themselves
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> and gives examples of fstab lines..
[13:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> the problem is that they are mounted by root
[13:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> as i cannot use the mount command as a normal suer
[13:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> user
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> with udisks you should be able to.. or make a proper fstab entry like the url showed.
[13:13] <Dr_Willis>    /dev/hda1   /media/windows   vfat   user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0
[13:13] <aguitel> what is caribou ?
[13:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> i dont want
[13:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> auto mount
[13:13]  * WhereIsMySpoon looks further at the page
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> its being mounted BY a command....
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> its just using udisks, an the gnome mounting 'stuff' :) OR you can make a proper fstab entry and use mount
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> !info caribou | aguitel
[13:15] <aguitel> MonkeyDust: thanks
[13:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> Dr_Willis, thanks, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions had the stuff i needed to mount it so that normal users can edit the filesystem
[13:17] <foolove> what is the boot parameter to not boot into X
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> http://my.opera.com/lounge/forums/topic.dml?id=83440    has examples also WhereIsMySpoon
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> theres litrally 1000's of sites with how to mount vfat :)
[13:17] <foolove> if i stop X im not kicked to a command prompt my screen on the backend freezes
[13:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> Dr_Willis, thanks ^^
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> !text | foolove
[13:18] <foolove> thanks dr_willis
[13:18] <cargo23> OP_
[13:19] <Anomie21> Is there anything I can do to speed up transfers over USB2? 10hrs to transfer my media collection. :/
[13:19] <mlpokn> How can I install http://gopenvpn.sourceforge.net?
[13:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> Anomie21, zip it up and xfer/
[13:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?
[13:20] <Anomie21> WhereIsMySpoon: Hmm, thanks that might work
[13:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> :D
[13:20] <tuxgeek> Anomie21: ...and use the CLI
[13:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> it will at least reduce the time by a lot if u choose a good compression system
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> Anomie21:  how many gb?
[13:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> over 9000 gb?!
[13:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> :D
[13:20] <Anomie21> Dr_Willis: 1TB
[13:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> ow
[13:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> thats a lot xD
[13:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> Anomie21, why cant you just use whatever harddisk u got it on as an external to ur new pc?
[13:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> Or whatever you're xfering it to
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> id use a terminal app/file manager like MC. and screen, and copy it in batches.
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> that way you can let the hd get a breather every so often. ;)
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> Anomie21  rsync is faster than cp or scp
[13:21] <Anomie21> WhereIsMySpoon: I've just upgraded from my 640GB drive to a 1TB one so I'm transferring all my media from one drive to another + 300GB off data off my comp
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> ive backed up 3TB usb over usb2 befor.. usb3 is much faster. :)
[13:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> MonkeyDust, why is rsync faster than cp?
[13:22] <Anomie21> The drives are USB3.0 but my pc is not :(
[13:22] <LoboX> sup all
[13:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> Anomie21, that doesnt explain why you're xferring it, surely you could use both drives?
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> WhereIsMySpoon  why is philosophical question, i just noticed it's faster
[13:22] <Anomie21> WhereIsMySpoon: 'cause I want to use the 640GB drive for something else
[13:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> MonkeyDust, it is not a philosophical question
[13:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> it is a technical question
[13:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> why is rsync faster than cp
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> WhereIsMySpoon  guess because it's a different technology
[13:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> if you dont have an answer or some evidence im inclined not to believe you unless i see some
[13:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> MonkeyDust, if you're talking about delta xfer, that doesnt make it quicker to xfer files that arent already partially on the drive you're xferring to
[13:25] <LoboX> http://pastebin.com/p5wSVcve <--- is this ok? for some reason my eth1 is not getting the static ip
[13:25] <LoboX> i know theres something to be done with the network manager
[13:26] <LoboX> i try to disable it on NetworkManager.conf but it knocked down my both cards
[13:26] <petoo> hey
[13:26] <compdoc> rsync isnt blazing fast. but its accurate
[13:28] <petoo>  I can't access my site from outside,  http://116.75.2.165/headtracker
[13:29] <petoo> compdoc:   I can't access my site from outside,  http://116.75.2.165/headtracker
[13:29] <compdoc> sorry to hear
[13:29] <petoo> yea, very obvious
[13:29] <compdoc> is your ISP blocking?
[13:29] <petoo> i don't know
[13:29] <petoo> is it because of my firewall?
[13:30] <compdoc> from where are you testing?
[13:30] <Axeman> so about a week or two ago - i was in here, and some of you nice folk were helping me figure out how to get zoneminder running on ubuntu. i got as far as editing a zoneminder.conf file, but left at that anyone know what goes in there?
[13:31] <compdoc> Axeman, on mine, I just installed zoneminder from the repos, and it worked
[13:32] <Axeman> seems i cant' get the vmware tools going either. (i'm on esxi vm) i see a Not Running
[13:32] <Axeman> ah compdoc. i fear i botched something
[13:32] <Axeman> i did the same. it worked.. but when we looked at apache. there were no conf files; no site responding, nothing
[13:32] <compdoc> does the zm webpage not open?
[13:32] <Axeman> i'm a linux boob; (no not noob, 1 step below noob). so this is tough.
[13:33] <Axeman> correct - i don't recall but we tried a few things like localhost/zoneminder or localhost/zm, etc to no avail.
[13:33] <benderbrodriguez> hi
[13:34] <Axeman> compdoc, are you on latest ubuntu?
[13:34] <compdoc> Axeman, might be best to use the ip address of eth0
[13:34] <compdoc> Axeman, no, I have not upgraded my zm server yet. maybe I wont if youre having issues
[13:34] <compdoc> its 11.10
[13:35] <benderbrodriguez> i've recently upgraded to 12.04 but now, when I boot the system the ubuntu logo appear but it continue loading at infinite...
[13:35] <Axeman> compdoc, don't go by my experience. my knowledge of this is sub zero; i know what "root" represents. beyond that, nothing
[13:35] <Axeman> i can't even get the damn vm tools installed.
[13:35] <foolove> dr_willis to append i have to type e for edit but then it does not boot to text mode and it does not appear to save the changes when i type ctrl x to boot
[13:36] <foolove> from the grub meu this new ubuntu is kinda weird
[13:38] <miss_ubuntu> Question : i want to transfer an installed software to another location in ubuntu , is it possible? e.g i want to transfer eclipse from /usr/lib/eclipse to /usr/local/eclipse
[13:39] <compdoc> Axeman, I dont run zm on a virtual machine. But its nice to try things that way. If something doesnt install right, you can erase and start from scratch
[13:39] <fasta_> Why do I get device names like rename4 when I try to setup usb networking?
[13:40] <fasta_> Broken routing table here:  http://paste.kde.org/495434/
[13:40] <dimaalonix> how to register here?
[13:40] <Axeman> compdoc, i discovered esxi about a year+ and gotta say baremetal hypervisor really opens up a WHOLE boatload of a world
[13:41] <dimaalonix> ?
[13:41] <compdoc> Axeman, I use qemu-kvm to run several servers, including a couple of windows servers
[13:41] <dimaalonix>  mode/#ubuntu
[13:41] <GeoGeek> Can anybody help me with exTREMEly slow samba speeds? Ubuntu 12.04 server and mostly Windows 7 clients.
[13:42] <petoo> how do I change port of apache2 compdoc >?
[13:42] <Axeman> ah gotcha compdoc. i'm new to this world, so gotta understand the yellin' from the rooftops mantra
[13:42] <dimaalonix> answer the question: how to register in irc?
[13:42] <asmom> guys, if i copy all data from a livecd to a usb drive, will it be able to boot from that usb or i have to use a software to do that?
[13:42] <compdoc> petoo, I have never done that - I use port 80
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> !register| dimaalonix better ask it politely
[13:43] <phunyguy> asmon, use unetbootn, or the ubuntu boot disk utility
[13:43] <Anomie21> asmom: You need software.
[13:43] <dimaalonix> thanks ubottu
[13:43] <petoo> how to change port of 80?
[13:43] <petoo> oops
[13:44] <petoo> how to change port of apache?
[13:44] <filo1234> hi there
[13:44] <Naitau> Hi there
[13:46] <tol> petoo: /etc/httpd/ports.conf -> listen 80, change to what you want, restart
[13:46] <fasta_> Why does Ubuntu call certain interfaces 'rename4'?
[13:46] <Naitau> I am having a problem with the Softwarecentre, is there anyone who can help please?
[13:47] <bhavesh> my gnome-tweak-tool does not start and gives this error in terminal " (gnome-tweak-tool:2613): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.shell.extensions.user-theme' is not installed Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)"
[13:47] <fasta_> I never inputted that anywhere.
[13:47] <fasta_> So, it makes up that stuff on its own, which I do _not_ want.
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> !ask| Naitau
[13:47] <fasta_> Is it even possible to setup usb networking (not via a modem) via network-manager?
[13:48] <taploppie> hoi
[13:48] <Jessa> hey
[13:48] <Jessa> whats ubuntu
[13:48] <taploppie> how are you?
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> !ubuntu| Jessa
[13:49] <bhavesh> !ubuntu
[13:49] <Jessa> why is this the largest freenode channel?
[13:49] <bumblehand> hey guys
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> this is a slow day here...
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> seen 3000+ in here on release day
[13:50] <bumblehand> who can help me ? ^^
[13:50] <taploppie> word er hier ook gechat ofwat?
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> and the issue is what bumblehand ?
[13:50] <bhavesh> bumblehand, Just ask your question and anyone who can answer will answer you.
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> taploppie  verkeerd kanaal, probeer eens op #ubuntu-nl en doe ze mij groeten :)
[13:51] <bumblehand> dr_willis; i need to close the remote ssh window but the upload i started needs to go ahead.. but i really dont know how!!
[13:52] <Naitau> When I click on the Software centre in 12.04LTS 64 bit version get this message!  "Sorry, cannot open the software database" please reinstall the software centre package!
[13:53] <neiliob1973> the router connected to my 12.04 desktop loses network connectivity after some time of inactivity...any known bugs and/or fixes?
[13:53] <Naitau> When I click on the Software centre in 12.04LTS 64 bit version get this message!  "Sorry, cannot open the software database" please reinstall the software centre package!
[13:54] <maysara> hi, does anyone have a solution for this problem? http://i.imgur.com/PbfTp.png
[13:54] <bhavesh> my gnome-tweak-tool does not start and gives this error in terminal " (gnome-tweak-tool:2613): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.shell.extensions.user-theme' is not installed Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)"
[13:55] <maysara> the bars doesn't show up
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> bumblehand:  you should learn to use screen, or tmux when using ssh. then it wouldent be an issue
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> bumblehand:  how are you uploading the stuff?
[13:55] <LmAt> I changed my terminal font, and now, instead of the vertical bar (window drawing bar?), I see a bunch ^3s.
[13:56] <bhavesh> maysara, try using unity -reset or unity --reset
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> LmAt:  what terminal are you using?
[13:56] <LmAt> Dr_Willis: tmux.
[13:56] <LmAt> Dr_Willis: In the Linux terminal.
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> LmAt:  could be your term settings also.  some fonts dont play nicely with screen or tmux
[13:56] <bumblehand> dr_willis: plowshare (plowup).. rapidshare or so… or directly with smbclient
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> you mean in the linux 'console'
[13:56] <LmAt> Dr_Willis: yes.
[13:56] <LmAt> Dr_Willis: Like TTY1.
[13:56] <maysara> bhavesh, I'm a beginner how to open terminal?
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> bumblehand:  best would be to learn to use screen, or tmux, or byobu
[13:57] <LmAt> maysara: What OS are you using ? Ubuntu?
[13:57] <maysara> yup
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> LmAt:  the font encoding can  cause issues also with  the console and those apps
[13:57] <bhavesh> maysara: If you are using Ubuntu 12.04 click on the circle top left and type terminal
[13:57] <foolove> if i boot into x one more time im going to scream what did the developers do to this new ubuntu release
[13:57] <LmAt> maysara: Hold CTRL+ALT+ 1.  wait, don't do tha.
[13:57] <Naitau> When I click on the Software centre in 12.04LTS 64 bit version get this message!  "Sorry, cannot open the software database" please reinstall the software centre package!
[13:57] <LmAt> maysara: To get back to the windowing manager, you'll press ALT+CTRL+7
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> foolove:  just disable the gdm/lightdm  service perhaps.
[13:58] <LmAt> maysara: I meant F1 and F7.
[13:58] <foolove> dr_willis that is a good angle i suppose
[13:58] <LmAt> maysara: So, there are 6 TTYs (terminals) that you can use, and the seventh is most likely for your window manager.
[13:58] <LmAt> maysara: Got it?
[13:58] <LmAt> Dr_Willis: How do I check the encoding?
[13:58] <maysara> LmAt, yes
[13:58] <bhavesh> maysara, or press ctrl + alt + f2 and login using your username and pass then do unity -reset or unity --reset
[13:58] <foolove> dr_willis not sure how to disable
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> Desktop$ sudo mv /etc/init/lightdm.conf  /etc/init/lightdm.DONTRUN
[13:59] <LmAt> maysara: Did it work?
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> foolove:  rename its init file :)
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> is one way
[13:59] <foolove> gotcha
[13:59] <foolove> ill do this
[13:59] <EdgEy> Hello guys. Does anyone know of a good tool I can use to test that a USB mass storage device is fully functional?
[13:59] <bumblehand> dr_willis: tmux works well!! thanks a lot!!
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> the  text option worked here i belive foolove
[13:59] <EdgEy> I have just bought a new USB stick and I want to make sure it's not 'fake' before I start to load it up
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> bumblehand:  look into byobu - its a bit more user friendly  tweaked sceen/tmux
[14:00] <aboudreault> Hi, trying to set my screen to 1920x1080, which is a supported resolution... but my linux seems to be busy and there is like 2 inches of extra on the right
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> EdgEy:  use cat to fill it up?
[14:00] <kRush> anyone else having trouble getting on efnet?
[14:00] <Sidewinder1> EdgEy, How about "Disk Utility?"
[14:00] <aboudreault> The mode was not detected initially... I used xrandr --newmode to add it.
[14:00] <LmAt> aboudreault: yo
[14:00] <LmAt> aboudreault: Do you use Grub?
[14:01] <EdgEy> Dr_Willis, I guess I could write a 32gb file to it and md5sum it but wouldn't that take a long time? maybe the task itself is doomed to take a while :P
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> EdgEy:  you want to be sure.. you take the time..
[14:01] <foolove> ok hoping no x loads so i can install the stupid nvidia drivers
[14:01] <aboudreault> LmAt, yes?
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> foolove:  err.. is that you need to do?
[14:01] <bhavesh> aboudreault, you can try using the Auto OK button on your monitor, if you have one.
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> foolove:  go to console 'sudo service lightdm stop'
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> foolove:  but its best to use the drivers from the repos
[14:02] <LmAt> aboudreault: Here's the way to do it.  You need to see the hardware modes that your hardware supports.  You have a particular size in mind (what bit depth? 32?).  You need to figure out what mode number that is.
[14:02] <foolove> dude this new unbuntu is a virus
[14:02] <foolove> lol
[14:02] <LmAt> aboudreault: Then, you need to tell grub to tell Linux to use that mode when starting up.
[14:02] <LmAt> aboudreault: ya falla?
[14:02] <foolove> when i do this the graphics card acts up and i dont get a command prompt
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> foolove:  oh? that sounds like a framebuffer issue.
[14:03] <foolove> i just renamed the init scripts stupid x still loads
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> the nofb option i belive  will make it not load the fb.
[14:03] <LmAt> aboudreault: So, to do this...
[14:03] <LjL> !text | foolove
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> perhaps you are not using lightdm then
[14:03] <neiliob1973> Having some networking issues...who can help?
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> you can also do sudo service lightdm stop from any terminal, or the consoles
[14:04] <foolove> i thought i was using gdm which i renamed gdm to gdm.NO
[14:04] <LmAt> aboudreault: What OS are you using?
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> the nomodeset opton may also help
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm      will show what one its using
[14:05] <aboudreault> LmAt, ubuntu oneiric
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> renamed mine.. let me see
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> brb
[14:05] <LmAt> aboudreault: I think the easiest way to do this is to modify your /boot/grub/menu.lst . Make sure there's a fallback or backup.
[14:05] <genii-around> LmAt: That is grub1
[14:05] <LmAt> aboudreault: The lines that you have that start with kernel
[14:06] <LmAt> aboudreault: Do you use grub1 or grub2?
[14:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hi, is it possible to get the name of the block device if you only know the folder in which it's mounted?
[14:06] <LmAt> genii-around: He said he uses grub.  I figured he'd speak up if he's using Grub2... should I think of it the other way around.
[14:06] <LmAt> ?
[14:06] <LmAt> WhereIsMySpoon: yes.
[14:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> LmAt, how
[14:06] <genii-around> LmAt: grub2 is default for a while now
[14:06] <LmAt> WhereIsMySpoon: dunno :)
[14:07] <LmAt> genii-around: Oh.  Stupid Archlinux.  It still comes with grub legacy.
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> renameing the .conf stoped X from loading here.
[14:07] <LmAt> aboudreault: If you have grub2, it's even easier!!
[14:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> LmAt, well taht's not very helpful :p
[14:07] <maysara> THX A LOT GUYS
[14:07] <LmAt> in /etc/default, look at the file "grub"
[14:07] <LmAt> maysara: Congrats :)
[14:07] <bonno> guys hello
[14:07] <bonno> can i ask something irrelative with ubuntu?
[14:07] <foolove> LjL believe you me that id deprecated beyond believe
[14:07] <OerHeks> WhereIsMySpoon, check your fstab?
[14:08] <LmAt> aboudreault: And look for a line like "GRUB_GFXMODE=15x25x8" and change it to the correct resolution.
[14:08] <LmAt> aboudreault: (again, make a back up).
[14:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> OerHeks, it's manually mounted
[14:08] <aboudreault> LmAt, I think it's grub 1
[14:08] <foolove> im using gdm
[14:08] <bonno> i am looking for an telecomunications chat channel..cos i have some questions i wanna ask..anyone know any?
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> !alis | bonno
[14:08] <bonno> actually i want to ask some question about ssh
[14:08] <LmAt> aboudreault: Uncomment the line if it's commented (remove the leading #). Also, make sure the line GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep is in there somewhere (uncommented)
[14:08] <LjL> bonno: ##networking maybe, not sure
[14:09] <LmAt> aboudreault: Okay, if it's grub one, let me know how many lines of /boot/grub/menu.lst start with "kernel"
[14:09] <aboudreault> LmAt, grub 1.99
[14:09] <bonno> double # ?
[14:09] <LjL> booi: if i remember right
[14:09] <aboudreault> LmAt, I do not have any menu.lst lol
[14:09] <aboudreault> just have a grub directory
[14:09] <LjL> bonno, even
[14:09] <bonno> even? what does that mean?
[14:10] <LmAt> aboudreault: hmm
[14:10] <LjL> bonno: i mean i misdirected my reply to someone else. i said "if i remember right"
[14:10] <aboudreault> LmAt, dpkg -l tells me that grub2-common and grub-common are installed... but not grub2 or grub package
[14:10] <foolove> dr_willis i would but i have no hdmi audio
[14:10] <aboudreault> that might explain why I do not have any menu at startup ;)
[14:10] <bonno> ok thanks vary much ..goodbye  :)
[14:10] <neiliob1973> can anyone help (or simply DIRECT me somewhere) for networking help?
[14:10] <LmAt> aboudreault: heh.  Perhaps you should install grub2?
[14:10] <foolove> i have nvidia card
[14:10] <LmAt> aboudreault: What OS/
[14:11] <bonno> neiliob1973 i am looking for the same thing :p
[14:11] <aboudreault> LmAt, kubuntu oneiric
[14:11] <LmAt> oh yeah!
[14:11]  * Dr_Willis missed how hdmi audio fits in...
[14:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> Anyone know how to (if its possible) get the block device name from only the folder it's mounted in?
[14:11] <LmAt> WhereIsMySpoon: :P
[14:11] <aboudreault> LmAt, so I guess I have to do a grub-install now?
[14:11] <LmAt> aboudreault: I'm not sure if there's any way to ...
[14:11] <LmAt> aboudreault: What's in /etc/default/grub ?
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> WhereIsMySpoon:  check the mount command output..  is the best way i know of
[14:12] <LjL> WhereIsMySpoon: quick and dirty way, "mount | grep folder | awk ' { print $1 } '"
[14:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> Dr_Willis, ah of course
[14:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> LjL, thanks :)
[14:12] <aboudreault> LmAt, some entry... like GRUB_DEFAULT=0 etc..
[14:12] <LmAt> aboudreault: run "file /etc/default/grub"
[14:12] <genii-around> aboudreault, LmAt .. All Ubuntu since Karmic are grub2
[14:13] <aboudreault> LmAt, ascii english text
[14:13] <LmAt> aboudreault: Okay.  um... run "cat /etc/default/grub"
[14:13] <neiliob1973> not sure how to get into the clic with ppl getting responses. #UselessSupport
[14:13] <LmAt> aboudreault: In fact, perhaps you should pastie that to me...maybe something in there is making sure grub doesn't show a menu.
[14:13] <aboudreault> LmAt, http://pastebin.com/yrQJHjuK
[14:14] <aboudreault> LmAt, well I've also installed the grub2 package just now
[14:14] <neiliob1973> 'cept bonno
[14:14] <LmAt> aboudreault: See that line with "640x480
[14:14] <LmAt> "?
[14:14] <LmAt> aboudreault: Change it to your desired resolution (then "x32" for thirty-two bits).
[14:14] <LmAt> aboudreault: And uncomment it.
[14:14] <JustVPSTest> Hello averyone! I need help please! i some time ago rent a server(vps) and i try ti understand what in chennel in my server - hosting company tell - 100Mb/sec - i need to check it! I don't have another server for check it :( Please help - i shared one file ("World of Tanks" distrib. - http://worldoftanks.com/) - and please - if you can - start download this file just for 5-10 min - and i can
[14:14] <JustVPSTest> see in what channel i have in server! This is link to file: http://108.170.22.205/WoT_0.7.3_us_setup.rar (distr. in rar arch.)  Tnx for every one who help me!!!!!
[14:14] <aboudreault> LmAt, well... no, the issue is the second screen
[14:15] <LmAt> aboudreault: Pardon?
[14:15] <aboudreault> the issue I have is with my second screen, connected to the display port
[14:15] <auronandace> JustVPSTest: this is ubuntu support
[14:15] <LmAt> aboudreault: hmm  I should have asked more questions before diving in... I'm stupid.
[14:15] <LmAt> aboudreault: So you have two screens, one of them is not displaying correctly?
[14:16] <aboudreault> LmAt, no sorry, my fault.
[14:16] <JustVPSTest> i undarstend - but i don't know how can help me ^(
[14:16] <aboudreault> LmAt, can we talk in private, just to get a proper history of the solution
[14:16] <auronandace> JustVPSTest: this channel can't
[14:16] <foolove> well i use nofb kill gdm no i get a solid black screen with nothing
[14:16] <auronandace> !alis | JustVPSTest
[14:16] <angs> what is the package name for gdb gnu debugger?
[14:16] <JustVPSTest> what chenna can?
[14:17] <LmAt> aboudreault: nope
[14:17] <OerHeks> JustVPSTest, i never download a rar .. and it is a .exe, no use here.
[14:17] <aboudreault> LmAt, strange, but ok.
[14:17] <LmAt> aboudreault: I would greatly prefer to do it here if you can stand it.
[14:17] <aboudreault> I can
[14:18] <LmAt> aboudreault: :)  alright, lay it on me thick and heavy.
[14:18] <zykotick9> angs: in a terminal try "apt-cache search ^gdb"
[14:19] <aboudreault> LmAt, I have a laptop, with a screen connected using displayport with a displayport to vga. The monitor is not detected properly and it's maximum resolution is 1280xyyy. But the monitor supports 1920x1080. So I tried to do a xrandr --newmode blablabla
 it worked thanks
[14:21] <LjL> angs: surprisingly, it appears to be "gdb"
[14:21] <zykotick9> LjL: give a man a fish vs. teach a man to fish ;)
[14:21] <LmAt> aboudreault: Are you wanting to change the resolution in your GDM or linux terminal (frame buffer)?
[14:22] <vuongdothanhhuy> give me a piece of fish first to charge my battery, then teach me how to fish :D
[14:22] <aboudreault> LmAt, console is fine
[14:22] <bhavesh> both way, fishes die :(
[14:22] <UICTamale> not all display port connections include an analog signal
[14:23] <UICTamale> only active display port connections would include VGA signals
[14:23] <LmAt> aboudreault: I've never seen a two-monitor linux terminal running...
[14:23] <genii-around> Displayport as in usb->vga adapter?
[14:23] <aboudreault> huh?
[14:23] <aboudreault> no I'm in the UI
[14:23] <LmAt> aboudreault: Dous it just duplicate the terminal on both lides?
[14:23] <aboudreault> KDE
[14:23] <dodo_> hi
[14:23] <LmAt> sides
[14:23] <LmAt> aboudreault: OOO. What's a window manager.
[14:23] <franciskx> wena
[14:23] <LmAt> aboudreault: CTRL+ALT+F1 is the linux terminal.
[14:23] <aboudreault> LmAt, kwin
[14:23] <aboudreault> LmAt, when I type: xrandr --output DP1 --right-of LVDS1 --mode 1920x1080 .... , it says OK... but the the monitor tells me that the OS set 1680xyyyy
[14:23] <UICTamale> is the monitor getting a signal at all?
[14:23] <LjL> genii-around: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort
[14:24] <LmAt> UICTamale: Who are you talking to?
[14:24] <pcfixe> join #ubuntu fr
[14:24] <bhavesh> gnome-tweak-tool does not start giving this in terminal.. "(gnome-tweak-tool:2223): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.shell.extensions.user-theme' is not installed
[14:24] <bhavesh> Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)"
[14:25] <curiousx> aloha all :D
[14:25] <curiousx> *sound of crickets*
[14:25] <LmAt> aboudreault: What is "DP1"?
[14:25] <martian> Is there a way I can create a sort of shortcut (in bash) so instead of having to type 'mv somefile /mnt/nas/some/sub/directory/archive/' I could just type 'mv somefile archive/'?
[14:26] <LmAt> martian: lol.  no.
[14:26] <haylo> can i copy my home directory while i am in it? or should i use a live cd?
[14:26] <monotux> ln -s /mnt/nas/some/sub/directory/archive ~/archive
[14:26] <LmAt> martian: You can create a softlink at /archive/ pointing to your dir.
[14:26] <Chuck_Norris> martial with alias
[14:26] <aboudreault> LmAt, DP1 is my second monitor?
[14:26] <LmAt> martian: yeah, monotux took care of you.
[14:26] <JustVPSTest> tnx for all!
[14:26] <LmAt> aboudreault: Where did you get that name?
[14:26] <aboudreault> LmAt, xrandr
[14:26] <Chuck_Norris> ye soft links is better for that
[14:26] <martian> LmAt: right, but I would like to avoid having a series of symlinks all over :-/
[14:27] <LmAt> martian: How's Linux supposed to know what you want!?
[14:27] <k-stz> Hi, my ubuntu LTS 10.04 just had a very weird crash. I just boot up the PC. Are there some error-logs where i can look into what happened?
[14:27] <franciskx> instalation of UTORRENT. ???
[14:27] <genii-around> LjL: Ah. Was thinking of DisplayLink instead
[14:27] <LmAt> aboudreault: How do you get xrandr to tell you about the display adapters.
[14:28] <LmAt> Oh yeah, I DO have ubuntu...perhaps I can get some experience with it, too.
[14:28] <aboudreault> LmAt, not what's your question...
[14:28] <aboudreault> http://pastebin.com/gS0U8fCr
[14:28] <LmAt> doh.  "$ xrandr" "Can't open display" :(
[14:28] <DJones> franciskx: utorrent is Windows software, you may be able to get it working using wine, but you could use Transmission which is a native application for Ubuntu
[14:28] <DJones> !wine | franciskx
[14:29] <monotux> franciskx: don't bother with wine, however. use another client instead.
[14:29] <monotux> franciskx: transmissions is pretty neat
[14:29] <phunyguy> monotux, that is a matter of opinion.
[14:29] <bhavesh> franciskx, There is Linux version of Utorrent too
[14:29] <monotux> transmission*
[14:29] <phunyguy> if you want utorrent-like, deluge is awesome.
[14:29] <bhavesh> franciskx, but its GUI runs in your browser, which may not be handy
[14:30] <martian> LmAt: I don't see why that would be a difficult task. A definition file could be configured by the user to specify that 'x' is short for /some/path and when one wants to use it, bash could simply assume that 'mv somefile x/' would expand to the defined path, unless one specified 'mv somefile ./x/'
[14:30] <monotux> phunyguy: it is? perhaps it's more stable nowadays than it was when i used it the first few times
[14:30] <LmAt> crap, I don't know how to turn on my windowing system... I thought it's "service light-dm start"
[14:30] <reisio> franciskx: what phunyguy said
[14:30] <LmAt> martian: man alias ?
[14:30] <reisio> monotux: it's as stable as your Python install is
[14:30] <auronandace> LmAt: take out the hyphen
[14:30] <phunyguy> also deluge uses libtorrent which is awesome as well.
[14:30] <martian> LmAt: I'm aware of alias. It's for command aliases, but not for command parameter aliasing
[14:30] <monotux> reisio: haha, i'm sorry, but i really doubt that :)
[14:30] <auronandace> LmAt: lightdm (not light-dm)
[14:30] <reisio> monotux: mostly as stable :D
[14:31] <LmAt> auronandace: ahh
[14:31] <LmAt> auronandace: thanks.
[14:31] <reisio> aria2 is great for one-off torrent downloads
[14:31] <LmAt> martian: That's what I thought.. Well, time for you to write a program :)  Or just use a window manager :P
[14:31] <monotux> i think i came into contact with wine for the first time in 2002 or 2003, maybe my opinions of wine were settled then
[14:32] <phunyguy> monotux, utorrent runs OK in wine.  It used to be quirky but I think it's OK now.
[14:32] <bhavesh> somebody help me with gnome-tweak-tool or I am goin to post it on ubuntuforums..
[14:32] <martian> LmAt: window managers are for chumps :-P
[14:32] <LmAt> aboudreault: It looks like the video card controlling DP1
[14:32] <LmAt> martian: I agree
[14:32] <LmAt> aboudreault: is not able to display at that resolution.
[14:32] <LmAt> aboudreault: So you want it to display at 1920x1080 but it's displaying at 1280x1024 ?
[14:33] <LmAt> no, it's doing 1920x1080?
[14:33] <OerHeks> !ask | bhavesh
[14:33] <franciskx> Gracias :)
[14:33] <LmAt> no...
[14:33] <monotux> i prefer x11 and a sane window manager, like a tiling one. my emacs is much prettier in x11 than in a terminal
[14:33] <LmAt> !patience
[14:33] <phunyguy> monotux, define "sane window manager"
[14:34] <LmAt> monotux: What's prettier about it?
[14:34] <bhavesh> My gnome-tweak-tool does not start giving this in terminal: "(gnome-tweak-tool:2223): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.shell.extensions.user-theme' is not installed
[14:34] <bhavesh> Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)
[14:34] <bhavesh> "
[14:34] <monotux> phunyguy: i'm using awesome on my laptop and wmfs on my work computer
[14:35] <phunyguy> just wondering what is so great at limiting what you can do
[14:35] <sweety> hi
[14:35] <phunyguy> great about**
[14:35] <monotux> LmAt: images, colors (sure, can be remedied easy using a 256-color terminal) and i prefer emacs font rendering to some terminals
[14:35] <aboudreault> LmAt, it should be 1920x1080, but uses 1680xyyyy.
[14:35] <sweety> someonetell me how to install sykype in ylmfos3?
[14:35] <sweety> someonetell me how to install sykype in ylmfos3?
[14:35] <sweety> someonetell me how to install sykype in ylmfos3?
[14:35] <LjL> !repeat | sweety
[14:35] <monotux> !patience
[14:35] <auronandace> sweety: no, this is ubuntu support
[14:35] <phunyguy> ugh, is this MSN chat?
[14:36] <LmAt> monotux: You can fix the font (I'm using proggy from my tty without a window manager) :)
[14:36] <jrib> sweety: this is ubuntu support, not support for ylmfos
[14:36] <phunyguy> wow.
[14:36] <aboudreault> LmAt, in fact linux tells me the monitor in in 1920x1080 but the monitor only report 1680
[14:36] <sweety> someonetell me how to install sykype in ylmfos3?
[14:36] <sweety> someonetell me how to install sykype in ylmfos3?
[14:36] <LmAt> aboudreault: hmm 1680x isn't even on the list.
[14:36] <phunyguy> time for a kick!
[14:36] <monotux> LmAt: i actually prefer smooth fonts in x11
[14:36] <LmAt> phunyguy: How intolerant of you.
[14:36] <monotux> proggy is too small
[14:36] <phunyguy> :)
[14:36] <LmAt> monotux: What's a smooth font?  Like antialiasing?
[14:36] <nyuszika7h> zsh-beta is older than zsh...
[14:36] <monotux> yeah
[14:36] <Axeman> is this the place to ask for ubuntu server support too? or is there another chan for that?
[14:36] <LmAt> monotux: sheesh.  You're hopeless :P
[14:37] <aboudreault> LmAt, well, I'm currently on a laptop, not the one that fails
[14:37] <LjL> Axeman: there is #Ubuntu-server, but you can ask here as well
[14:37] <LmAt> monotux: If you need anti-aliasing, you're using the wrong font :)
[14:37] <monotux> LmAt: no, i'm old ;(
[14:37] <LmAt> aboudreault: ahh.
[14:37] <aboudreault> was just to provide you an example of xrandr with DP1
[14:37] <Axeman> thanks LjL ... i'm going to try zoneminder on ubuntu server.
[14:37] <LmAt> monotux: Yeah, only old people wink and frown at the same time :P
[14:37] <LmAt> aboudreault: ahh.
[14:37] <monotux> it actually takes deliberate practice
[14:38] <LmAt> aboudreault: I have my DVI1 but it's at the safe-ol 1028x1024.
[14:38] <Axeman> pray for me ye religious folks. athiests, please summon the FSM.
[14:38] <CarlFK> how do I bring up a unicode character picker?  I need a diamond
[14:38] <monotux> anyways, time to do some real work before going home
[14:38] <LmAt> aboudreault: So mine's pretty boring :)
[14:38] <phunyguy> monotux, adios
[14:38] <LmAt> CarlFK: Open MS Word...
[14:38] <LjL> LmAt: ...
[14:38] <phunyguy> lolz
[14:39] <CarlFK> LmAt: die in a fire.
[14:39] <LmAt> CarlFK: www.detexify.kirelabs.org/classify.html
[14:39] <OerHeks>  ♦	
[14:39] <CarlFK> LmAt: woa, thats pretty cool
[14:39] <LmAt> CarlFK: You know it :)
[14:40] <CarlFK> OerHeks: that works too
[14:40] <LmAt> CarlFK: It even comes close to as cool as MS Word's symbol picker!!
[14:40] <LmAt> ^_^
[14:40] <CarlFK> LmAt: I am gong to stab you with a spoon
[14:40] <cypher-neo> :o
[14:40] <LmAt> CarlFK: http://distilledb.com/blog/archives/date/2009/03/06/typing-special-characters-in-ubuntu.page
[14:41] <phunyguy> I have googled this, and I know this may start some flame wars, but I am going to ask anyway.  Is there a "Gubuntu" distro in the works? As a spinoff distro? I kind of like Gnome3, some don't, but I do. It would be nice to have an "official" Gubuntu....
[14:41] <LmAt> CarlFK: You're bipolar.
[14:41] <phunyguy> (And I hate linux mint)
[14:41] <CarlFK> lol
[14:41] <LmAt> phunyguy: Nope.
[14:41] <cypher-neo> phunyguy, There is a distro called Ubuntu-GS Remix which is exclusively GNOME3
[14:41] <phunyguy> cypher-neo, any good?
[14:42] <cypher-neo> phunyguy, It is currently unofficial but you can download it from sourceforge, i believe. It is nice! I've tried it.
[14:42] <ehmatthes> Can anyone help with a networking issue?  Trying to get 'telnet rendezvous.heroku.com 5000' to work, keep banging my head against the wall.
[14:42] <reisio> phunyguy: my guess is it's Ubuntu, but with GNOME 3 with gnome shell by default, instead of Unity :p
[14:42] <reisio> AKA: stupid :p
[14:42] <zykotick9> phunyguy: start with mini iso install - then add only what you want...
[14:42] <bhavesh> Can I get a Mac ISO for my Oracle VM?
[14:42] <reisio> bhavesh: yup
[14:42] <cypher-neo> phunyguy, Let me see if I can find you the link
[14:43] <Pici> bhavesh: What does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[14:43] <bhavesh> Pici: nothing :P sorry ..
[14:43] <reisio> Pici: Ubuntu is hist host
[14:43] <reisio> his*
[14:43] <Pici> reisio: so?
[14:43] <phunyguy> No I have gnome3 running, was just wondering about a distro
[14:43] <reisio> so this is #ubuntu :p
[14:43] <reisio> phunyguy: derivative distros are usually a waste of time, IMO
[14:43] <phunyguy> and Ubuntu GS Remix is unofficial
[14:43] <reisio> you can use vanilla GNOME 3 on Ubuntu
[14:44] <bhavesh> I know this channel is for Ubuntu support and I had to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:44] <cypher-neo> phunyguy, Oh, okay. Well, I did a review on it. You can read my report here: http://proxyglider.tumblr.com/post/24492914108/ubuntu-gs-remix-12-04-review
[14:44] <reisio> bhavesh: already answered you, anyways :p
[14:44] <LmAt> zykotick9: That's called arch linux :)
[14:44] <zykotick9> reisio: ubuntu is a derivative ;)
[14:44] <phunyguy> thanks cypher-neo
[14:44] <reisio> zykotick9: yup :)
[14:44] <reisio> cypher-neo: wow, that's a background
[14:44] <cypher-neo> reisio, :D
[14:44] <echo083> excuse me i've difficulties to see colors can someone tell me if the color #fbf9ee is pink ?
[14:44] <phunyguy> WOW, cypher-neo that webpage background almost gave me a seizure
[14:45] <cypher-neo> lol
[14:45] <LjL> echo083: no, yellowish white
[14:45] <reisio> cypher-neo: huh, usually I hate fixed backgrounds, but this works
[14:45] <echo083> LjL, thanks !!!
[14:45] <cypher-neo> phunyguy, reisio, That was completely designed in GIMP!
[14:45] <echo083> LjL, i was afraid to make a pink background on my website lol
[14:45] <LmAt> cypher-neo: You didn't use MS Word!?  WOW!  Excellent work!!
[14:45] <reisio> cypher-neo: naturally
[14:46] <reisio> echo083: gj
[14:46] <cypher-neo> LmAt, I used LibreOffice ;)
[14:46] <cypher-neo> lol
[14:46] <peyotte> register kalkata
[14:46] <echo083> reisio, gj ?
[14:46] <peyotte> fudge:-D
[14:47] <reisio> good job
[14:47] <Axeman> downloading server iso now. going a bit slow.
[14:48] <reisio> Axeman: did you choose a mirror near you?
[14:48] <auronandace> !torrents | Axeman
[14:50] <jarray52> I'm trying to remove the fglrx module and the associated kernel taint. Any suggestions on doing that?
[14:50] <phunyguy> cypher-neo, interesting write-up.  I'm wondering if I should give it a go, I'm just not sure I want to give up EVERYTHING unity right now.  I kind of like those tiny scrollbars... and the global app menu was great except for the fact that non maximized windows still kept the menu bar up top.  In a perfect world for me, they would only be all the way up top for maximized windows.
[14:50] <Axeman> no reiso just cliked and it started downloading
[14:50] <Axeman> auronandace, dont' have a torent client.
[14:50] <omit> Hi again
[14:50] <Axeman> it's okay at 64% now
[14:50] <cypher-neo> phunyguy, Well, I dislike both of those features... but if you like them and Unity/GNOME3 work well together for you, then keep it that way. :)
[14:51] <cypher-neo> Hi omit
[14:51] <KornKage> wubi installed ubuntu makes it mount ntfs, which makes ubuntu super slow man....
[14:51] <omit> My grub is broken. I tried a lot of tools (command line and boot-repair), but it fails
[14:51] <phunyguy> yeah I think you are right.  I wonder if I can find those extensions standalone...
[14:51] <Axeman> can ubuntu participate in active directory domain?
[14:51] <phunyguy> and appmenu doesnt work so the only thing that is kept is the scrollbars
[14:51] <wilee-nilee> phunyguy, post the http of the bootinfo summary
[14:52] <phunyguy> wilee-nilee, hmmm?
[14:52] <auronandace> !ad | Axeman
[14:52] <omit> "chroot" fails when I try to use it to reinstall grub
[14:52] <wilee-nilee> phunyguy, yo used the boot-repair tool that file is automatiacally generated
[14:52] <phunyguy> wilee-nilee, wrong person!
[14:52] <omit> it just doesn't respond after I run it
[14:52] <sacarlson> omit: how about super grub live disk then?
[14:53] <omit> sacarlson: haven't tried that yet
[14:53] <wilee-nilee> phunyguy, ah you are right sorry about that
[14:53] <wilee-nilee> omit, post the http of the bootinfo summary
[14:53] <Sidewinder1> Axeman, Don't forget to md5sum the ISO prior to burning/copying to USB. :)
[14:53] <Axeman> OMG auronandace THANKS!
[14:53] <Phiscribe> i second super grub, its well...super
[14:53] <Axeman> okay Sidewinder1
[14:53] <sacarlson> omit: it shouldn't be much trouble to fix grub unless you have like efi or raid system or?
[14:53] <omit> wilee-nilee: yes, 1 sec I generate it
[14:54] <omit> sacarlson: no efi or raid, just plain stuff
[14:54] <sacarlson> omit: set your bios to boot from wrong disk?
[14:54] <omit> sacarlson: the problem is that I can't even purge grub before trying to reinstall it
[14:54] <omit> sacarlson: no. It broke after a xubuntu 12.04 grub update
[14:55] <sacarlson> omit: install of grub2 should just scan for all bootable partitions and add them to be seen at boot, not much can go wrong
[14:55] <wilee-nilee> sacarlson, lol if grub is all there
[14:55] <omit> sacarlson: yes, but to install from the live cd I need to use chroot, which fails
[14:56] <wilee-nilee> the script will let us see more in detail
[14:57] <reisio> Axeman: next time choose a nearby mirror, or a torrent :) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[14:57] <omit> wilee-nilee: yes. the system is still installing boot-repair...
[14:57] <Axeman> as for the md5, i just got it from ubuntu.com ...
[14:57] <Lantizia> How do I clear the fact I logged in over SSH from the logs? (so if someone logs in after me it'll show the person before me as being the last person to log in)
[14:58] <New0> hi everyone. i am trying to install ubuntu via DOK. what is the best Format to the disk. by preference? FAT32, NTFS, ..... and do you know a good tool for the job? unetbootin.exe, usb-creator.exe tnx
[14:58] <Axeman> didn't know that - just saw big ole download button so did that
[14:58] <reisio> Lantizia: find logs, delete lines
[14:58] <reisio> Axeman: right right
[14:58] <Lantizia> reisio, that would delete all records of anyone logging in
[14:58] <TheLordOfTime> New0: for linux, ext4 is the perfect ubuntu fs.  NTFS and FAT32 dont work well enough.    now what's DOK?
[14:58] <sacarlson> Lantizia: cd /var/log ; grep yourusername ;  delete all files you see your self in
[14:58] <reisio> New0: DOK?
[14:58] <reisio> Lantizia: no it wouldn't
[14:59] <schnuffle> DOK?
[14:59] <New0> reisio, Disk On Key
[14:59] <Lantizia> reisio, sacarlson, lastlog isn't a normal text file
[14:59] <reisio> New0: that's a new one
[14:59] <reisio> schnuffle: USB :p
[14:59] <schnuffle> New0: I can recommend yumi,xboot ( Windows ) or another check pendrivelinux.com
[14:59] <reisio> New0: the install image has its own filesystem
[14:59] <reisio> New0: you can dd it to the USB stick
[15:00] <sacarlson> Lantizia: you mean yestarday or 30 days ago are not text as the are compressed?
[15:00] <reisio> ah, on Windows
[15:00] <reisio> New0: I'd use unetbootin, yup
[15:00] <Lantizia> sacarlson, /var/log/lastlog isn't a text file
[15:00] <schnuffle> New0: I would go for yumi, which lets you create multiple OS on USB
[15:01] <Lantizia> sacarlson, it's just data
[15:01] <maysara> hi, i want to install aegisub. Can anyone tell me how to do that? http://www.aegisub.org/#download
[15:01] <omit> is there another way to get the log that using boot-repair
[15:01] <yeats> New0: just use unetbootin - FAT32 or whatever format the USB is in should work fine
[15:01] <New0> reisio, TheLordOfTime sorry mayby Disk On Key is the way We (israelies) spelled it. what do you call it? and by the way i meant for the DOK not to the HDD and i can do FAT, FAT32, or NTFS (Windows reason)
[15:01] <omit> it refuses to install now (which is crazy because it worked twice this afternoon)
[15:01] <sacarlson> Lantizia: strang my /var/log/lastlog date is 2012-05-15
[15:01] <genii-around> !info aegisub
[15:01] <reisio> New0: most say 'to USB', IME
[15:02] <reisio> New0: you want to install onto the USB key, or _from_ it?
[15:02] <genii-around> Hm
[15:02] <schnuffle> maysara: You'll nedd to download and compile it
[15:02] <sacarlson> Lantizia: what date is yours set as last modified for /var/log/lastlog
[15:02] <genii-around> !info aegisub quantal
[15:02] <sacarlson> ?
[15:03] <maysara> schnuffle, how to compile it?
[15:03] <schnuffle> maysara: as ubottu states I`m wrong and you just need to activate universe repo
[15:03] <maysara> i'm a beginner
[15:03] <New0> reisio, from it. yeats sounds good tnx :)
[15:03] <schnuffle> maysara: open software center and search for it
[15:03] <genii-around> schnuffle: It's available for Quantal but not Precise
[15:03] <maysara> it's not there
[15:03] <New0> also tnx everyone here
[15:03] <LmAt> maysara: yo
[15:03] <Lantizia> sacarlson, the modified date the the time i logged in
[15:04] <maysara> LmAt, hi
[15:04] <sacarlson> Lantizia: then better delete that too
[15:04] <LmAt> maysara: It must not be a very good program.
[15:04] <Lantizia> sacarlson, that'll just delete ALL logs of who has EVER logged in - your not really helping
[15:04] <LmAt> maysara: I see on http://www.aegisub.org , under "Source Code" for Unix, the table doesn't have a bottom line.
[15:05] <maysara> LmAt, well i used to use it on windows
[15:05] <maysara> LmAt, it's the best for me
[15:05] <sacarlson> Lantizia: you didn't say you wanted to save any data of others loging in now did you?
[15:05] <LmAt> maysara: What kind of programmer would not have a bottom line in one of his tables?  He should be using CSS, which either he is, and he customized the table to take that line out, or he doesn't use CSS in which case he's a fool of a programer.
[15:05] <LmAt> maysara: Anyway, to get it...
[15:05] <Lantizia> sacarlson, yeah I did
[15:05] <Lantizia> See.....    How do I clear the fact I logged in over SSH from the logs? (so if someone logs in after me it'll show the person before me as being the last person to log in)
[15:05] <New0> yeats, hoo also. i would line (not have to ) to save the modification on the Try Ubuntu USB (4gb)
[15:05] <LmAt> maysara: Have you downloaded it yet?
[15:05] <maysara> LmAt, yup
[15:06] <LmAt> maysara: Have you downloaded it yet?
[15:06] <LmAt> oops
[15:06] <LmAt> sorry.
[15:06] <New0> btw the proccess of creating the USB DOK. is from windows.
[15:06] <LmAt> maysara: Did you un-tar it?
[15:06] <maysara> LmAt, yes
[15:06] <New0> yeats ^
[15:07] <thomasd> Ok this is entirely my fault but I was mucking around where i shouldent be in nvidia-settings. And wen I re booted all hell broke loose. OpenGL isnt working Everything looks grainy and my computer is constantly throwing errors that programs have crashed that i don't even know
[15:07] <thomasd> i had open
[15:07] <LmAt> maysara: Did you configure the build?
[15:07] <sacarlson> Lantizia: how about fake a login that they did after you log out
[15:07] <maysara> LmAt, how to do that?
[15:07] <LmAt> maysara: Good question.
[15:07] <LmAt> maysara: see teh file "configure"?
[15:08] <LmAt> maysara: do ls -l
[15:08] <LmAt> (or ll)
[15:08] <LmAt> configure is marked 'x' attribute (executable).
[15:08] <LmAt> then type "head configure"
[15:08] <LmAt> And you see "#! /bin/sh"?
[15:08] <maysara> wait
[15:08] <LmAt> maysara: That means that the file's contents are to be interpreted by /bin/sh
[15:08] <LmAt> maysara: waiting
[15:09] <ska> in 12.04, I have the Radeon 6530 gpu.. Can I use the open-source driver? I was unable to install without the proprietary fglrx though. Just curious if I can use the open source one.
[15:09] <wilee-nilee> omit, you can run this from a live cd and the results.txt will be in home copy and paste all of it to a pastebin. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1030518/
[15:10] <maysara> LmAt, what's "ls -l"?
[15:10] <thomasd> Ok this is entirely my fault but I was mucking around where i shouldent be in nvidia-settings. And wen I re booted all hell broke loose. OpenGL isnt working Everything looks grainy and my computer is constantly throwing errors that programs have crashed that i don't even know i had open.
[15:10] <LmAt> maysara: man ls
[15:10] <LmAt> maysara: are you familiar with "man"?
[15:10] <LmAt> maysara: man tells all.
[15:10] <maysara> i don't know that
[15:10] <Phiscribe> man is so literal though
[15:10]  * thomasd try's "man woman"
[15:11] <LmAt> maysara: type "man ls" it will tell you nearly everything there is to know about ls.
[15:11] <reisio> thomasd: check /etc/X11/ for a xorg.conf.old
[15:11]  * LmAt tries man woman
[15:11] <LmAt> "No manual entry for woman"  ... We'll have to fix that.
[15:11] <reisio> LmAt: both ways, eh?
[15:11] <omit> wilee-nilee: what command should I run to get the log ?
[15:11]  * Phiscribe watches a black hole swallow thomasd LmAt the known universe
[15:11] <thomasd> reisio: i see an xorg.conf.backup
[15:12] <omit> wilee-nilee: sorry I saw it! (never used pastebin before)
[15:12] <reisio> thomasd: and the date?
[15:12] <wilee-nilee> omit, the whole one I posted as a copy and paste to a ubuntu terminal, a live cd seems to be what your only option is.
[15:12] <thomasd> reisio last touched june 6
[15:12] <reisio> kinky
[15:12] <maysara> LmAt, plz explain step by step
[15:12] <wilee-nilee> omit, cool you see the link
[15:12] <reisio> thomasd: so that may well be what you want, mv xorg.conf elsewhere, and .old to xorg.conf
[15:12] <LmAt> maysara: Are you running tmux?
[15:12] <LmAt> maysara: nm
[15:12] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | omit
[15:13] <reisio> thomasd: ahem, .backup
[15:13] <jarray52> I would like to delete the fglrx kernel module. Where are kernel modules typically stored?
[15:13] <LmAt> maysara: Can you see irc while you're typing into your terminal?
[15:13] <reisio> jarray52: wouldn't keeping it from loading suffice?
[15:13] <maysara> LmAt, yes
[15:13] <Phiscribe> also most cards have a headphone cut off, they turn off speakers if headphone is plugged in, sometimes it gets stuck
[15:13] <LmAt> maysara: type "man ls"
[15:13] <thomasd> reisio. Nice that they have a backup incase someone *embarased face* messes up
[15:13] <Phiscribe> ack mt
[15:13] <LmAt> maysara: At the top it says "ls - list directory contents".  It lists directory contents.
[15:14] <LmAt> maysara: Now type "/-l" which means search (/) for the string "-l".
[15:14] <thomasd> ok i'ma try rebooting now
[15:14] <jarray52> reisio: No. I want it destroyed. :)
[15:14] <LmAt> maysara: It says, down there where the entry for "-l" is, it says "use a long listing format".  See that?
[15:14] <thomasd> maysara: type ls -R /
[15:14] <omit> wilee-nilee: here's the result
[15:14] <omit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1030522/
[15:15] <LmAt> maysara: That's what ls -l is.
[15:15] <LmAt> thomasd: Thanks.
[15:15] <schnuffle> jarray52: http://askubuntu.com/questions/78675/how-do-i-remove-the-fglrx-drivers-after-ive-installed-them-by-hand
[15:16] <jarray52> schnuffle: I already followed those steps. It removed everything except the kernel module.
[15:16] <LmAt> maysara: Got it?
[15:17] <schnuffle> jarray52: after those steps the kernel moduole shoud be uninstalled
[15:17] <New0> ok, i did setup the USB Drive and boot from usb and Try Ubuntu option. but all the text in red and the pc is running. what could be the prob
[15:17] <endiruna> hi i want to make a local network for students with ubuntu which is connected to the university network. I do not want to put bios passwords etc but i am scared of people changing the local root passwords via physical accessand doing nasty things. Is there a way to notice if the passwd or shadow have changed. in case one chages it and than copies back the shadow file can i notice that?
[15:18] <maysara> LmAt, it says cannot write "-R /"
[15:18] <reisio> endiruna: off-site copy
[15:18] <reisio> endiruna: and there are lots of file system integrity apps, like AIDE, tripwire
[15:18] <wilee-nilee> omit, try this chroot. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1030528/
[15:18] <LmAt> maysara: I didn't tell you to put that!
[15:19] <LmAt> maysara: thomasd did, and he's gone now, so you don't have to do what he says.
[15:19] <omit> wilee-nilee: I'm doing it
[15:19] <maysara> LmAt, i followed what u said
[15:19] <LmAt> maysara: Okay, so now you know what "ls -l" is?
[15:19] <jarray52> schnuffle: I'm using a newer kernel from backports. Let me try uninstalling and reinstalling that.
[15:19] <wilee-nilee> omit, cool just run that fdisk to make sure your ubuntu install on the sda is showing as a sda still.
[15:20] <sacarlson> endiruna: you could setup tripwire to triger any changes to files like that and any other you want to watch
[15:20] <maysara> LmAt, yes
[15:20] <LmAt> maysara: so now, ls -l in your aegisub dir.
[15:20] <LmAt> maysara: and you see the item called configure?
[15:21] <LmAt> maysara: I gotta go.  type "./configure && make && make install"
[15:21] <omit> wilee-nilee: yes, it's on sda1. Everything works up to line 7, and when I run line 8, nothing happens
[15:21] <maysara> LmAt, ok
[15:21] <wilee-nilee> omit, what is the line you mean exactly
[15:21] <wilee-nilee> post it
[15:22] <omit> wilee-nilee: I mean, a blank line is shown and I don't have the control of the console, it seems to be still running. Line 8 is the problem: sudo chroot /mnt
[15:22] <wilee-nilee> omit, from the script I posted?
[15:23] <omit> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1030537/ following exactly the script you posted
[15:23] <Qantourisc> Why is ubunut configured NOT to use /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf ?
[15:23] <omit> wilee-nilee: all my tries before now  failed in the same way : the chroot is "blocked"
[15:24] <omit> wilee-nilee: I have already tried to interrupt it with ctrl-c, and after some point I'm logged with #, but I find it strange
[15:24] <wilee-nilee> omit, you might need to run a fsck I am not familiar with doing this really. was the upgrade without errors?
[15:24] <omit> wilee-nilee: (but now I'm leaving the command run, I haven't done anything yet)
[15:24] <omit> wilee-nilee: which upgrade?
[15:24] <genii-around> endiruna: iwatch is also not bad
[15:25] <wilee-nilee> omit, you want the terminal to show # to run the actual commands in a chroot
[15:25] <wilee-nilee> omit, was this not a upgrade from a earlier release
[15:25] <omit> wilee-nilee: yes I know, but I had to interrupt it before it shows (and after that the other commands did not work)
[15:26] <omit> wilee-nilee: no, i did a clean fresh install of xubuntu 12.04 a week ago. Everything was perfect until today when the grub update proposed by the update manager broke everything. I didn't edit any update repository or anything
[15:26] <ersumit> hello
[15:27] <Romance> hallo
[15:27] <ersumit> romance u r m or f
[15:27] <omit> wilee-nilee: ah! the chroot worked (after 5 minutes). I continue running the script you sent
[15:27] <BaldFat> I need to change the SATA in 12.04 where do I change it to auto in configurations
[15:27] <BaldFat> well compatibility
[15:28] <wilee-nilee> omit, hopefully you will get in, but I would be worried about that 7th line taking a long time it should be really fast.
[15:28] <omit> wilee-nilee: should I run grub-install /dev/sda or grub-install /dev/sda1 ? (my install is on sda1)
[15:30] <endiruna> thanks to all. sorry i am a newbie in security and some questions might seem trivial. If i am off topic maybe somebody could advise some room to ask. what i do not understand is that if sb has physical access than of course he can suspend check also for these file controlling programs or am i wrong
[15:30] <IncendiaryPyro> join #anonops
[15:30] <wilee-nilee> omit give me my link of the commands again I closed it
[15:30] <wilee-nilee> omit, give me my link of the commands again I closed it
[15:30] <IncendiaryPyro>  
[15:30] <omit> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1030528/
[15:31] <wilee-nilee> omit, run the commands exactly as they are in the link.
[15:32] <Axeman> and first question that i don't know the answer to parition method
[15:32] <omit> wilee-nilee: OK. Now I have the same problem as before: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1030552/
[15:32] <Axeman> i'm going to skip lvm
[15:33] <Axeman> don't tnk i need anything fancy for zoneminder
[15:33] <muszysko> hello
[15:33] <muszysko> how are you?
[15:33] <reisio> LVM is more useful if your foresee partition changes in the future
[15:33] <reisio> muszysko: fat & sassy, you?
[15:33] <Axeman> it's a VM.. worst case i just pop in a new disk, eh ?
[15:33] <reisio> Axeman: worst case you boot it from a live image and repartition a bit
[15:34] <reisio> less risk because VM guests are usually so simply backed up
[15:34] <Axeman> hasn't asked me about lamp i'm guesing that's coming towards the end ?
[15:34] <reisio> Axeman: what, with Ubuntu Server?
[15:34] <Axeman> yeah reisio
[15:34] <reisio> that's traditionally where such things are, the end, but I haven't ever used it
[15:34] <Axeman> or was that an option at the start i should've specified
[15:35] <reisio> although Ubuntu Server... it may well come standard, but it'll probably take the form of an opt-OUT at the end
[15:35] <wilee-nilee> omit, To be honest with a long getting to the chroot with line 7 I don't think you are there, you might have a corrupted file system, that a fsck might fix. YOur problems I think honestly are beyond a IRC fix, use the ubuntu forums, or maybe just check the HD with the smart tool, it is hard to say what is going on, it will not run the standard commands.
[15:37] <omit> wilee-nilee: OK I'll try that. Thanks very much for you help.
[15:37] <wilee-nilee> omit, no problem. Sound like mpre then grub is broken really.
[15:37] <wilee-nilee> more*
[15:37] <arooni-mobile> how do i get how many MB of memory a particular process is using.  i'm using htop and i'm guessing the value is under the VIRT/RES columns.. but i'm not sure what either means.
[15:38] <Axeman> reisio, at last screen now asking for lamp open ssh, etc
[15:39] <sacarlson> omit: and if it takes more than 2 - 3 hours to correct think about reinstall depending on the complexity of your system in some cases it ends up easier to just recover user data and do full reinstall
[15:40]  * KornKage Euro 2012 starting!! :DD
[15:40] <miss_ubuntu> Question : i want to transfer an installed software to another location in ubuntu , is it possible? e.g i want to transfer eclipse from /usr/lib/eclipse to /usr/local/eclipse ??
[15:40] <omit> sacarlson: yes, but I just reinstalled a week ago and I always configure some stuff so it makes me lose a lot of time. I'd really like to fix it
[15:40] <Ca11um> How can I make a USB stick (with Windows 7 contents) bootable using Ubuntu?
[15:41] <Ca11um> When I try and load it from the BIOS, it just has a flashing underscore, and nothing ever happens
[15:41] <sacarlson> omit: in that case maybe better to learn to fix it then if it repeats
[15:43] <omit> sacarlson: is there a way to umount /mnt even if it says that it's bus (I don't want to reboot the live-cd a 100th time...)
[15:43] <omit> sacarlson: *busy
[15:43] <tejfol> Hello, i need some help... Id like to change the default mouse cursor in kubuntu 12.04 but i didn't find it in the system settings
[15:43] <sacarlson> omit: you must have a term that is cd'ed into it that makes it busy
[15:43] <DJones> Ca11um: This should help http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[15:44] <omit> sacarlson: nope :(
[15:45] <DJones> Ca11um: Just before section 2 talks about making the usb stick bootable
[15:45] <sacarlson> omit: could try log out and in
[15:45] <omit> sacarlson: yeps
[15:49] <Axeman> here's a dumb question... it prompted me to create and set a password for a non-admin user when i was installing...
[15:49] <Axeman> what's my root login/password?
[15:49] <Axeman> i don't recall setting that anywhere
[15:50] <Pici> !root | Axeman
[15:50] <sacarlson1> omit: it should be as easy as this: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt; sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda # change sda1 and sda to your choice (from live cd boot)
[15:50] <Axeman> aah i'm learnin!
[15:51] <Axeman> thanks Pici
[15:52] <GeekAdmin> hey I just had someone ask if you can use limewire/frostwire on ubuntu these days. I think I remember a program that let you search all of them at once called gtkgnutella. Is there something better?
[15:52] <genii-around> Axeman: The first user created on the system has admin/sudo rights by default. Subsequent users don't.
[15:54] <sacarlson1> GeekAdmin: I guess torrents are more popular now
[15:54] <Ca11um> DJones: Thanks, but I don't have the ISO of Windows 7...
[15:54] <Ca11um> I just have the physical disc, and I've copied the files over from a PC with a disc drive
[15:54] <hcuongvn> hey guys! I'm using git clone to download a really big file. But i need to restart the computer right now! Can I resume it later?
[15:54] <Ca11um> Meh he left
[15:55] <Ca11um> Anybody know of a good ISO creator?
[15:55] <Ca11um> simple*
[15:55] <hcuongvn> any help?
[15:56] <GeekAdmin> sacarlson1:  yea I use torrents too.
[15:56] <sacarlson1> hcuongvn: I think you can as it will just look for what's different and sync so I would assume it will recover if not complete
[15:56] <GeekAdmin> sacarlson1: but someone that is new to ubuntu wanted to know if you can use gnutella
[15:56] <GeekAdmin> I know you can....but dont know the best program
[15:57] <sacarlson1> GeekAdmin: I have used gnutella I think it's still around
[15:57] <sacarlson1> !gtk-gnutella
[15:58] <hcuongvn> sacarlson1, What have i to do? I just restart the computer and run the same command as I ran before, right?
[15:58] <sacarlson1> GeekAdmin: well I still see it in synaptic and I still have it installed
[15:59] <sacarlson1> hcuongvn: git pull; I think but I should look it up
[15:59] <kantlivelong> anyone here on 12.04 with an ATI Radeon HD 6870 and have games working without graphical problems in wine?
[16:00] <Relondo> ubuntu isnt recognizing my keyboard, wireless mouse, our touchpad
[16:00] <Relondo> using wired mouse and onscreen keyboard right now
[16:00] <Relondo> help?
[16:01] <|MUSE|> hey, I have just installed cmus (terminal based media player) and I love it. But I want to use the media keys. Now I know you can just assign a command that controls the player directly to the key, however I would quite like to keep the keys behaviour when Im watching a movie (for example in gnome mplayer). Where is the script that provides that behaviour so I can modify it?
[16:01] <sacarlson1> hcuongvn: I normaly use gitg the gui so I forget the command stuf
[16:02] <Relondo> nobody can help?
[16:02] <hcuongvn> sacarlson1, thanks. Let's me try!
[16:03] <robert_> is xubuntu should be slow on 1 gb ram?
[16:03] <Guest65154> is xubuntu should be slow on 1 gb ram?
[16:04] <h00k> !patience | Relondo
[16:05] <|MUSE|> Relondo: dont know if this will help you, anyway... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallUSBKeyboard
[16:06] <omit> Hello again
[16:06] <sacarlson1> omit: fixed?
[16:06] <omit> How come there is no "sh" or "cp" command available after I chroot?
[16:07] <omit> sacarlson1: I did a fsck, which allowed me to chroot nicely
[16:07] <sacarlson1> my method doesn't require chroot
[16:07] <sacarlson1> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt; sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda # change sda1 and sda to your choice
[16:07] <omit> sacarlson1: I'll try that
[16:07] <sacarlson1> omit: if that fails then you must have corrupted file at /boot in the root dir
[16:07] <Relondo> sorry i left chat
[16:08] <Relondo> can i have that link again?
[16:08] <omit> sacarlson1: oh it worked!! I'll try to reboot now. (It seems that it's the fsck which made it work, because I tried this before and it failed).
[16:08] <|MUSE|> Relondo: I found a better one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/HalBreaksKeyboardAndMouse
[16:08] <omit> sacarlson1: see you after reboot
[16:08] <Relondo> thanks
[16:08] <|MUSE|> np
[16:09] <jarray52> I'm trying to install a newer kernel with backports. I'm following these instructions. https://sites.google.com/site/lightrush/random-1/howtoinstalllinuxkernel2638onubuntu1004lucidfromubuntu1104nattytheeasyway After step 2, I see the source files, but I don't see the kernel and initrd image in /boot. This worked the first time I tried it, but it didn't work after removing everything with purge and reinstalling.
[16:09] <qubit[0|1]> Anyone know any tools that will give me meta information abuot a pdf ?  total pages, total height of the last page etc ?
[16:09] <Relondo> |muse|: my mouse still works, though
[16:10] <|MUSE|> Relondo: ah okay then try the first link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallUSBKeyboard
[16:10] <Zally666> Hi
[16:11] <Relondo> also, how do i open command line?
[16:11] <schnuffle> qubit[0|1]: pdfinfo?
[16:12] <|MUSE|> press "super key", then start typing "terminal"
[16:12] <resno> Relondo: ctrl + alt + T
[16:12] <schnuffle> Relondo: you open a terminal, it's under accessoires
[16:12] <resno> ha, 3 different ways
[16:12] <schnuffle> :)
[16:12] <|MUSE|> alt_f2, start typing terminal, the tab till you find something :P
[16:12] <sacarlson1> jarray52: did you try step3 just reboot,  I would think that would work
[16:13] <schnuffle> resno: But yours is the best one
[16:13] <|MUSE|> agreed
[16:13] <Relondo> where is thah?
[16:13] <resno> yea :)
[16:13] <kantlivelong> anyone know of a ppa for ati driver 12.4?
[16:14] <BLZbubba> why do linux music players have to suck so hard
[16:14] <schnuffle> resno: but it doesn' work under Suse :)
[16:14] <kantlivelong> BLZbubba: describe?
[16:14] <Relondo> can't use f2, have no keyboard
[16:14] <BaldFat> I need to change the SATA in 12.04 where do I change it to compatibility in configurations. Google serach gave menothing :(
[16:14] <jarray52> sacarlson1: Yes. I did. The problem is that /boot does not have vmlinuz-2.6.38. In fact, none of the 2.6.38 files are there.
[16:14] <BLZbubba> are there any that deal with a ton of songs (40k +) well, and also automatically can see an ipod/iphone
[16:14] <schnuffle> BaldFat: Change what? Can you be a bit more precise
[16:14] <sacarlson1> jarray52: does synaptic show that the package installed?
[16:14] <BaldFat> What BLZbubbl Amarok and Banshe ROCKS
[16:15] <BLZbubba> BaldFat: heh they are better than nothing i'll admit; i don't mean to whine too much
[16:15] <BLZbubba> but every ubuntu release i end up spending a day getting my iphone to work again, and they all choke with big playlists
[16:15] <Relondo> gotta go. thanks for help
[16:16] <jarray52> sacarlson1: Yes.
[16:16] <ano> hi all, just a quick question: is 10.04LTS still supported and how long it is supported?
[16:16] <BLZbubba> ano: for LTS releases i think it is 3 years desktop and 5 years server
[16:16] <bazhang> ano, 3 years desktop, 5 years server
[16:16] <greyfox> is there someone here who has internet from t-mobile in uk?
[16:16] <bazhang> ano,  12.04 is 5 years for both
[16:17] <kantlivelong> what driver is included in 12.04 for ATI? what version?
[16:17] <BaldFat> as oppose to Fedora 3 month desktop once it is usable and 6 months server
[16:17] <jarray52> sacarlson1: Also, make menuconfig works, but make does not. I get the error message: make: *** No rule to make target `include/config/auto.conf', needed by `include/config/kernel.release'.  Stop.
[16:17] <smw> ano, more information than you requested: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[16:17] <ano> so is 10.04 still supported? i dont know when it was released.. does anyone remember?
[16:17] <bazhang> ano 2010, april
[16:17] <Pici> ano: Ubuntu release numbers are the YEAR.MONTH of release.
[16:17] <smw> ano, yes, 10.04 is still supported
[16:17] <|MUSE|> heh
[16:17] <smw> ano, check the link I gave you
[16:17] <ano> thank you all
[16:19] <sacarlson1> jarray52: strange don't know how you can install it as I don't see the package available in ubuntu 10.04
[16:20] <omit> hola
[16:20] <greyfox> is there someone here who has internet from t-mobile in uk?
[16:20] <Darkenvy> Im having issues connecting to the internet. I can SSH into my VPS but I cannot wget, apt-get update, ping or anything
[16:21] <smw> Darkenvy, ping 8.8.8.8
[16:21] <Darkenvy> what is 8.8.8.8?
[16:21] <BaldFat> then your issue is the VPS
[16:21] <BaldFat> local host
[16:21] <smw> Darkenvy, an IP that I trust to respond
[16:21] <|MUSE|> anyone got any ideas on where I can modify the behaviour of the media-keys?
[16:21] <BaldFat> 127.0.0.0 right?>
[16:21] <sacarlson1> jarray52: you must have given me the wrong link then as it shows no compile in the page you gave us
[16:21] <smw> Darkenvy, 127.0.0.1 is localhost
[16:21] <omit> sacarlson1: hi again
[16:21] <Darkenvy> nothing. it just hangs. I can ping localhost, 127, and its own IP no problem
[16:21] <smw> Darkenvy, I want you to ping 8.8.8.8 to see if you can get to the outsize
[16:22] <cesc> hi, is there any web site where I can browse/search the list of packages in the most recent Ubuntu distribution? I am wondering what's the most recent version of cmake and gfortran available to ubuntu. Thx in advance!
[16:22] <smw> cesc, packages.ubuntu.com
[16:22] <cesc> thx smw
[16:22] <BaldFat> cesc just do a apt-chace search -i <package>
[16:23] <cesc> BaldFat, I don't have ubuntu installed, I'm an archer ;)
[16:23] <greyfox> BLZbubba: apt-cache*
[16:23] <Darkenvy> I cant ping 8.8.8.8 . Only localhost services (I do not know what else is on my LAN to ping to test btw….)
[16:23] <trism> sacarlson1: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-backport-natty
[16:23] <omit> Now, my grub is fixed, but after I choose to boot from any kernel, a black screen appears and nothing happens (this was actually the initial problem, before I broke my grub trying to fix it). Has anyone had this ?
[16:23] <smw> Darkenvy, pinging localhost means nothing
[16:23] <greyfox> cesc: pacman -Ss
[16:23] <sacarlson1> jarray52: I assume they forgot to add the ppa to add, oh yes as trism just published for us
[16:23] <smw> Darkenvy, nor does pinging your own IP
[16:24] <trism> sacarlson1: not a ppa, it is in main
[16:24] <greyfox> Darkenvy: check if you can ping your router
[16:24] <smw> Darkenvy, both operations don't involve "hardware"
[16:24] <cesc> greyfox, no no, I want to know what the latest available version is in Ubuntu, not in arch.  smw's answer already answered the problem .thx though
[16:24] <Darkenvy> how can I find my router IP? this is a VPS
[16:24] <Bertscookie> pingin localhost lets you know your TCP/IP stack is working, not that it's ever broken
[16:24] <trism> !info linux-image-2.6.38-15-generic lucid
[16:24] <greyfox> Darkenvy: route -n
[16:24] <farid_> hello
[16:24] <njalki> hi!
[16:24] <smw> Darkenvy, ifconfig. Find the gateway
[16:25] <greyfox> and gw to 0.0.0.0 is your router
[16:25] <farid_> I have a slight problem
[16:25] <Darkenvy> "0.0.0.0         0.0.0.0         0.0.0.0         U     0      0        0 venet0"
[16:25] <smw> Darkenvy, route -n also works
[16:25] <smw> Darkenvy, that is not good...
[16:25] <Darkenvy> yea I figured :P
[16:25] <farid_> I can't access my user accounts
[16:25] <Darkenvy> ITs a fresh image as of 10 minutes ago
[16:25] <jarray52> sacarlson1: There is no compile in the instructions. However, I attempted the compile after their instructions failed.
[16:26] <farid_> when i click on the menu, nothing happens
[16:26] <smw> Darkenvy, complain to your provider
[16:26] <greyfox> Darkenvy: try traceroute
[16:26] <Darkenvy> (you may remember me from last night. I used the same image last night and got internet; this morning I reinstalled the image again)
[16:26] <Darkenvy> okay. I will submit a ticket
[16:26] <farid_> !accounts
[16:26] <smw> Darkenvy, yeah, I remember :-P
[16:26] <smw> Darkenvy, did you try reinstalling again? :-P
[16:26] <farid_> !user
[16:27] <farid_> any help?
[16:27] <farid_> i need to edit my user account
[16:27] <farid_> ...but i cant access the anel
[16:27] <farid_> panel*
[16:28] <schnuffle> farid_: what do you need to change?
[16:28] <greyfox> farid_: on your pc?
[16:28] <Sandro_> hello
[16:28] <jarray52> sacarlson1: I'm a bit confused about the ppa remark.
[16:28] <farid_> schnuffle: i want to change my user name
[16:28] <jarray52> sacarlson1: What did you mean?
[16:29] <farid_> greyfox: yes...ubuntu 12.04
[16:29] <Sandro_> i'm looking for some help, since i didn't find any answer after looking for many hours
[16:29] <schnuffle> farid_: better create a new user and copy your data
[16:29] <sacarlson1> jarray52: well the image isn't showing up in synaptic but the headers do
[16:29] <farid_> schnuffle: what about my current acount?
[16:29] <schnuffle> farid_: or move it, on terminal suod adduser ctreates a new account
[16:30] <schnuffle> farid_:  sudo adduser
[16:30] <sacarlson1> jarray52: so I assumed it was not in the standard repository but it just seems missing for reasons unknown
[16:30] <jarray52> sacarlson1: What's the difference between headers and image.
[16:30] <farid_> schnuffle: Ok, thanks a lot
[16:30] <sacarlson1> jarray52: well the headers are just for compiling drivers the image is what boots
[16:31] <farid_> schnuffle: I'll do that now & report back on progress...:))
[16:32] <schnuffle> farid_: good luck
[16:32] <farid_> schnuffle: I'll need it...thanks
[16:33] <sacarlson1> jarray52: I found it, it's something weard about the synaptic search
[16:34] <Sandro_> My Amazon server has an issue with 100% inode, >>> we are looking to supress a directory which contain thousand of files in it ... but rm-rf * doesn't respond atm
[16:34] <Darkenvy> on a seperate note: what good is burstable ram anyways if you only get it for a few seconds? what applicable use is burstable ram in server scenerios?
[16:36] <jarray52> sacarlson1: What did you find?
[16:37] <sacarlson1> jarray52: I found the package linux-lts-backport-natty in synaptic, not sure why the quick search failed to find it
[16:37] <Sandro_> no one ?
[16:37] <ehazlett> greetings…  anyone know how to force the mail command to not add content as an attachment if it's over a certain size - i.e.  mail -s "Test" user@domain.com < /tmp/file.log -- adds as an attachment if it's too large
[16:37] <designbybeck> I am running Ubuntu in a VBox, I don't have compositing I don't guess because of that... so how do I rearrange my Unity Icons then?
[16:38] <farid_> !useraccount
[16:38] <designbybeck> I can't drag and drop them out
[16:39] <kantlivelong> what driver is included in 12.04 for ATI? what version?
[16:40] <wilee-nilee> kantlivelong, depends on the card
[16:40] <kantlivelong> wilee-nilee: Radeon HD 6870
[16:40] <kantlivelong> (im trying to debug an issue for a friend)
[16:41] <kantlivelong> trying to figure out which catalyst its installing
[16:44] <nicmcginnis> Anyone can help me with sound under 12.04? All I have is "dummy output", my sound card works fine when I boot with windows, totally stumped, help!
[16:44] <quixotedon> nicmcginnis: no sound at all?
[16:44] <nicmcginnis> quixotedon: nothing at all
[16:45] <scorpion> hello
[16:45] <sacarlson1> jarray52: as I install it I see in /boot  vmlinuz-2.6.38-15-generic.dpkg-new
[16:45] <nicmcginnis> quixetedon: when I look at 'sound settings' there is only "dummy output", I googled the problem, it seems to be a known bug, but there is no consensus on how to solve it
[16:45] <scorpion> anyone heard of myunity configurator?
[16:45] <nicmcginnis> quixetedon: I'm too much of a new noob to follow the discussions on the topic, which are very technical :\
[16:45] <bazhang> scorpion, whats the real question
[16:46] <jarray52> sacarlson1: I don't have the vmlinuz file you just mentioned.
[16:46] <scorpion> i need to get this program
[16:46] <bazhang> scorpion, so install it
[16:46] <xangua> scorpion: sudo apt-get install myunity
[16:46] <scorpion> how do i get it?
[16:46] <bazhang> see above scorpion
[16:46] <jarray52> sacarlson1: Now, purge those files and delete the vmlinuz and other 2.6.38 files in /boot.
[16:46] <wilee-nilee> kantlivelong, I know nothing about graphic drivers to be honest.
[16:47] <sacarlson1> jarray52: I'm getting error from my freeradius install as it tried to install it failed
[16:47] <jarray52> sacarlson1: Then, try to reinstall, and you will be where I am stuck.
[16:47] <quixotedon> nicmcginnis: have you checked the setting at "Super + Sound"
[16:47] <scorpion> xangua: i did that but it isn't working
[16:47] <jarray52> sacarlson1: freeradius?
[16:47] <nicmcginnis> quixetedon: I haven't, what is that/where can I find it?
[16:47] <bazhang> scorpion, whats the error
[16:47] <scorpion> bazhang: any help?
[16:47] <bazhang> scorpion, give us details: doesn't work won't do it
[16:47] <xangua> scorpion: it's on precice repositories, if you are not using precice pangolin wou'll need to add myunity ppa I guess
[16:48] <sacarlson1> jarray52: yes I have a freeradius server running on my system that seems to have dependencies in mods of the kernel that this version can't handle
[16:48] <scorpion> bazhang: i think my system is still using windows
[16:48] <sacarlson1> jarray52: so I will remove it and continue to run my older kernel
[16:48] <scorpion> i'm not sure
[16:49] <scorpion> please help me
[16:49] <bazhang> scorpion, then why would you ask for ubuntu support
[16:49] <scorpion> i suspect there is ubuntu somewhere
[16:49] <scorpion> maybe on D drive
[16:49] <jarray52> sacarlson1: It was the removal and reinstallation process that gave me trouble.
[16:50] <scorpion> bazhang: any help...please
[16:50] <atari314> Hello, is ubuntu 386 or 686 compiled? (can anyone confirm the first/top answer given here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/5033/why-is-mainstream-ubuntu-still-i386-compiled) Tyvm.
[16:50] <nicmcginnis> quixotedon: what is "super + sound"? How do I check thaT?
[16:50] <bazhang> scorpion, no.  this is not windows support
[16:50] <sacarlson1> jarray52: I'm doing a complete remove purge
[16:50] <scorpion> xangua: any help
[16:50] <quixotedon> okay, press Windows key on keyboard (that's called Super here), then type "Sound"
[16:50] <nicmcginnis> Anyone else have experience with sound card issues?  All I have is dummy output, no sound at all
[16:50] <scorpion> bazhang: ubuntu is also there
[16:51] <fishscene> If there are any Xubuntu developers here, let me pass along my compliments. I'm *very* impressed with the speed, responsiveness, and how lightweight everything is. I only wish it had Ubuntu One integration
[16:51] <knite> hey everyone! I have a fresh Ubuntu instance on Amazon ec2. I'm trying to install mysqldb (aka MySQL-python). I get a config not found error when using pip. it successfully installed using apt-get, but python is still unable to find the module.
[16:51] <scorpion> i need ubuntu support
[16:51] <resno> !ask | scorpion
[16:51] <nicmcginnis> quixotedon: yes, that's what I'm saying, on the sound menu, there is no hardware detected, only 'dummy output'
[16:51] <bazhang> scorpion, then boot into it
[16:51] <scorpion> bazhang: i am in ubuntu now
[16:52] <scorpion> bazhang: ubuntu 3
[16:52] <bazhang> scorpion, there is no such thing
[16:52] <scorpion> bazhang: what?
[16:52] <scorpion> bazhang: i am in ubuntu 3.009 now
[16:52] <bazhang> scorpion, take chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic . there is no Ubuntu 3
[16:52] <jarray52> sacarlson1: After that, you need to autoremove and then delete the 2.6.38 files in /boot.
[16:53] <scorpion> bazhang: ok help me
[16:53] <pes88> Hi!!
[16:53] <bazhang> scorpion, then ask an actual support question
[16:53] <sacarlson1> jarray52: after purge I see no -38 in /boot
[16:53] <scorpion> bazhang: i see ubuntu now...11.04
[16:53] <pes88> I've a question about recompiling the kernel in UBUNUT
[16:54] <nicmcginnis> Does anyone have experience with sound issues in 12.04?
[16:54] <scorpion> bazhang: help me please!
[16:54] <TheLordOfTime> nicmcginnis: why dont you just ask the real question you have
[16:54] <TheLordOfTime> !anyone
[16:54] <quixotedon> nicmcginnis: really?
[16:54] <bazhang> scorpion, with what. you've not asked a question
[16:55] <scorpion> bazhang: how can i be an ubuntu guru?
[16:55] <bazhang> !ot | scorpion
[16:55] <pes88> can I recompile the kernel in the traditional way?
[16:55] <nicmcginnis> TheLordofTime: I seem to have no sound at all in 12.04, Sound Settings only shows 'dummy output', the internet says to "sudo alsa force-reload" but that doesn't do anything. I know I have a working soundcard (onboard). When I boot into Windows it works fine.
[16:55] <scorpion> bazhang: no help?
[16:55] <scorpion> bazhang: ok, i'm going...bye
[16:55] <TheLordOfTime> nicmcginnis: address the channel, not me specifically
[16:56] <bazhang> scorpion, being a guru is not a support question. chat elsewhere
[16:56] <nicmcginnis> The LordOfTime: sorry. I am, er, new at this, and I apologize for any breaches of etiquette. They are not intentional.
[16:56] <Axeman> okay - configuring nullmailer now... can i pass it google mail smtp info?
[16:56] <TheLordOfTime> bazhang: you're a minute late
[16:56] <resno> nicmcginnis: has it ever worked?
[16:56] <nicmcginnis> Quixotedon: Yes? 12.04 is not detecting any sound hardware.
[16:56] <nicmcginnis> nicmcginnis: briefly when I first installed, then on next boot it was gone.
[16:57] <resno> nicmcginnis: are you talking to your self?
[16:57] <knite> how does one install the mysqldb / MySQL-python module under Ubuntu. pip fails with a config not found error, apt-get succeeds but python can't find the module.
[16:57] <jarray52> sacarlson1: When you run sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-backport-natty, do the vmlinuz files appear in /boot?
[16:58] <nicmcginnis> resno: uh, oops. Didn't mean to. I meant to direct that to you.
[16:58] <nicmcginnis> resno: my brain went one way and my fingers another.
[16:58] <resno> nicmcginnis: so you dont see thesoundcard? at all?
[16:59] <resno> nicmcginnis: in terminal issue alsamixer
[16:59] <quixotedon> nicmcginnis: have you tried alsamixer through terminal?
[16:59] <nicmcginnis> resno: okay, if I go to terminal and type "alsamixer" it says "HDA VIA VT82xx" with a Realtek ALC662 chip.
[17:00] <quixotedon> (like what resno said)
[17:00] <resno> nicmcginnis: are all the volumes up?
[17:00] <nicmcginnis> Resno: That's progress! It knows there is a sound card.
[17:00] <nicmcginnis> resno: Yes, although on 'master' there is no volume control.
[17:00] <resno> nicmcginnis: so you cant push the up button?
[17:01] <resno> there nicmcginnis
[17:01] <nicmcginnis> resno: just "oo"
[17:01] <Axeman> hey resno din't see ya in here
[17:01]  * resno highfives Axeman 
[17:01] <resno> nicmcginnis: im guessing the driver is messedup
[17:01] <baserrrr> Does somebody know how to setup a BB as modem via BT  ?
[17:01] <Axeman> not sure how long you've been in here but - i'm workin on getting ubuntu server setup! go me!
[17:01] <bazhang> baserrrr, backtrack?
[17:02] <resno> Axeman: lets keep it on topic, we can chat elsewhere :)
[17:02] <resno> Axeman: go you!
[17:02] <nicmcginnis> resno: Google tells me there is a known issue lurking around, some people say driver, some people say 'kernel' (that's the core of the OS, right?), no one agrees on how to fix it! :D
[17:02] <baserrrr> bazhang jes
[17:02] <jarray52> esacarlson1: When you run sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-backport-natty, do the vmlinuz files appear in /boot?
[17:02] <resno> nicmcginnis: ya kernel runs theshow
[17:02] <nicmcginnis> resno: I like the Ubuntu interface and I'd like to migrate away from Windows but sound is kind of a deal-breaker... anyway, yeah, don't know what to do next.
[17:02] <bazhang> baserrrr, go to the backtrack support channel, its not supported here: #backtrack-linux
[17:03] <nicmcginnis> resno: appreciate the help though
[17:03] <resno> nicmcginnis: whats the card and chip again?
[17:03] <baserrrr> bazhang thx
[17:03] <atari314> Hello, is ubuntu 386 or 686 compiled? (can anyone confirm the first/top answer given here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/5033/why-is-mainstream-ubuntu-still-i386-compiled) Tyvm.
[17:04] <nicmcginnis> Card: HDA VIA VT82XX Chip: Realtek ALC662 Rev 1, or so says Alsamixert
[17:04] <giuseppe_> can you advice some kernel version to use on linux?
[17:04] <giuseppe_> * on ubuntu?
[17:04] <giuseppe_> I was thinking to use zend kernel
[17:04] <Progster> I set up a local git server on ubuntu 11.10, and am trying to log into it with putty on a windows client. I set up putty to use my RSA private key, which is stored on the ubuntu server in /home/git/.ssh/authorized_keys, but it doesn't work and I get hung up unexpectedly. Any ideas on how to debug this?
[17:04] <taploppie> hallo zit ik hier goed
[17:04] <nicmcginnis> resno: sorry, forgot to direct the message, Card: HDA VIA VT82XX Chip: Realtek ALC662 Rev 1, or so says Alsamixer
[17:04] <oCean> taploppie: nee, dit is het Engels kanaal. Typ  /join #ubuntu-nl
[17:04] <bazhang> !nl | taploppie
[17:04] <mauro> ciao
[17:05] <taploppie> oka
[17:05] <taploppie> thanks
[17:05] <giuseppe_> do you think is it a good idea?
[17:05] <resno> Progster: using sparkleshare?
[17:05] <resno> nicmcginnis: do you know what your card is?
[17:06] <nicmcginnis> It is the on-motherboard card for an AsRock 4CoreDual-Sata2---perhaps I can find more information...
[17:06] <Progster> resno: no, just trying to use putty to ssh into my box. no sparkleshare. Apparently not even this works...
[17:06] <nicmcginnis> resno: did it again... It is the on-motherboard card for an AsRock 4CoreDual-Sata2---perhaps I can find more information...
[17:06] <resno> Progster: i recognized the name and thought the same person
[17:07] <Progster> it is
[17:07] <Progster> I'm just trying to debug my server, which I think is the issue now
[17:08] <Progster> I can log in with Putty, and it looks like my private RSA key is accepted because I get a welcome message, and then the connection is immediately closed...
[17:08] <AceFace> hello all! :)
[17:08] <nicmcginnis> resno: so I went to google and found this: http://hennr.name/2011/09/05/asrock-4coredual-sata2-r20-and-sound-under-linux
[17:08] <nicmcginnis> resno: should I follow these instructions?
[17:08] <resno> Progster: well spakrleshare is specifiying its own key
[17:08] <sirriffsalot> How do I disable Quassel IRC from saving all the chat text that goes on here..?
[17:09] <Pierreb> i have an issue with a harddrive, it wont show up in ubuntu
[17:09] <resno> nicmcginnis: sure it doesnt hurt
[17:09] <Progster> I imported that private key into putty, and put the public key into /home/git/.ssh/authorized_keys
[17:09] <Pierreb> it works in windows so there is no issue with it
[17:09] <Progster> Like I said, I get a welcome message. And then am immediately logged off
[17:09] <Pierreb> the dmesg log show this http://pastebin.com/dDtCd3ei
[17:10] <bazhang> sirriffsalot, try in #quassel
[17:10] <nicmcginnis> resno: okay, I went to terminal and said "sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf", and empty document showed up, I copy-pasted the lines, now I should restart? do I need to tell the system to load these configuration instructions somehow, or should it just work automagically?
[17:10] <nicmcginnis> resno: thanks again for your patience
[17:11] <sirriffsalot> bazhang: :P cheers
[17:11] <sirriffsalot> #quassel
[17:11] <sirriffsalot> Lol
[17:12] <nicmcginnis> resno: just gonna reboot...
[17:14] <AceFace> i am having an issue configuring multiple NICs on one server. here is my /etc/network/interfaces configuration: http://pastebin.com/p5kyMWdx
[17:14] <AceFace> i can ping google.com over eth0
[17:15] <AceFace> but i cannot get eth1 to ping
[17:17] <AceFace> here is ping results
[17:17] <AceFace> http://pastebin.com/j7gA75df
[17:18] <roasted_> is gateway not needed for eth1? o.O
[17:18] <M4rc3l> my keyboard doesnt work with ubuntu when i log in all the keyboard lighs are off and backspace is spamming even though im not pressing it help
[17:18] <AceFace> from what i understand, second gateway will seriously mess up the routing table
[17:19] <AceFace> i have tried adding a second gateway, and both NICs fail
[17:19] <roasted_> *shrug* I set up a dual NIC server at my last job... each NIC had a gateway. But that may have been a unique case because i was doing LTSP and had each NIC split from each other, aside frome xternal access
[17:19] <roasted_> what if you just add the same gateway to eth1?
[17:20] <roasted_> I'm not a network expert but I would think eth1 may need some more info by looking at htat config. I may be totally wrong.
[17:20] <AceFace> ive already tried adding the same gateway to the second nic, it fails both nics, then i have to login locally and switch it back
[17:20] <schnuffle> There can be only one default gateway, so the second overwrites the first
[17:20] <roasted_> schnuffle, I had 2 default gateways in my server, granted each NIC ran on a different network though.
[17:20] <AceFace> yes, i believe schnuffle is correct
[17:21] <roasted_> 10.52.17.1 and 10.52.18.1
[17:21] <roasted_> worked great
[17:21] <roasted_> you're not running network manager, are you?
[17:21] <nicmcginnis> resno: I think I REALLY broke the sound now with the instructions I followed! When I ask for alsamixer, it tells me no such file or directory!
[17:22] <schnuffle> roasted_: My staement doesn't contratict. i wanted to say: 2 Nics both DHCP, they will both overwrite the default gateway
[17:22] <mcyyyy> ciao
[17:22] <AceFace> network manager? is this a GUI?
[17:22] <mcyyyy> !list
[17:22] <roasted_> AceFace, yeah
[17:22] <roasted_> AceFace, gui utility for managing networks
[17:23] <AceFace> no, this server is headless, i only have ssh access
[17:23] <roasted_> AceFace, I've had weird network issues if network manager was trying to manage the interface when I had manual settings in the interface file. Just wanted to make sure.
[17:23] <M4rc3l> my keyboard doesnt work with ubuntu or any other distro when i log in all the keyboard lighs are off and backspace is spamming even though im not pressing it help
[17:23] <roasted_> AceFace, I'm not sure to be honest. But if you run into a dead end here, #ubuntu-server may be of a little more help. I've also found #networking to have quite a few Linux users.
[17:24] <AceFace> thank you for the suggestions, i appreciate it. i wasnt aware #ubuntu-server was available to me
[17:24] <AceFace> thank you!
[17:24] <roasted_> yep! good luck
[17:25] <schnuffle> AceFace: Found docs in german tough that support my thinking. Normally there's only one gateway but you can add second with iproute2 but not in /etc/network/interfaces
[17:26] <schnuffle> AceFace: for that you need to creat a second routing table
[17:27] <AceFace> im not networking savvy, but i beleive my server rack should only have one routing table
[17:28] <schnuffle> AceFace: When you setup both NICs but only one with a gateway, it doesn't work?
[17:29] <schnuffle> AceFace: Both NICs in the same network?
[17:29] <AceFace> correct. two NICs, eth0 has gateway, eth1 no assigned gateway
[17:29] <AceFace> both NICs on same network
[17:29] <schnuffle> AceFace: Aaaah
[17:30] <schnuffle> AceFace: can you paste your routing table? ( use pastebinit )
[17:30] <AceFace> yes of course.
[17:31] <AceFace> http://pastebin.com/2hQ2X1sv
[17:32] <schnuffle> AceFace: I think  both NICs in te same network is the problem. Is there a reason why it needs to be like that?
[17:33] <AceFace> yes, i have services on the server, and i want redundant NICs
[17:33] <schnuffle> AceFace: because your setup can lead to packet loss
[17:33] <AceFace> i want to be able to swapp eth0 cables if i need to
[17:33] <AceFace> and it fail over to eth1
[17:34] <schnuffle> AceFace: But then you would need more like a monitor checking for the NICS and activate the second when the first fails or use bonding
[17:39] <zaqxsw34> hi
[17:40] <alexander--> I got pinged!
[17:42] <alexander--> I got pinged!
[17:43] <Sickki> someone ponged me!
[17:43] <jarray52> Is there a way to blacklist the i915 kernel module? I added it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, but that didn't seem to work. After startup, lsmod still shows i915 in use.
[17:44] <irgendwer4711>  hi, how to clean up debians dpkg database? remove old packages
[17:44] <bazhang> irgendwer4711, you mean ubuntu, presumably
[17:44] <alexander--> I got pinged!
[17:45] <irgendwer4711> bazhang: oh yes
[17:45] <irgendwer4711> but its the same dpkg
[17:45] <adrenalink> hello! it is possible to compile a vanilla kernel on ubuntu?
[17:48] <rewhtngndsmf> How do I share a wireless network over ethernet in ubuntu? I've done this before, but I need to direct someone over the phone how to do it and can't remember exactly how to do it
[17:48] <deitarion> I just upgraded to Precise and it reverse the dialog action button orders in the handful of KDE apps I use on my Lubuntu desktop. Anyone know how to force the "Burn" button in K3b back into the corner of the dialog?
[17:48] <sacarlson> jarray52: worst case you can just delete the i915 module or move it someplace it won't be found
[17:48] <deitarion> s/reverse/reversed/
[17:48] <jarray52> scarlson: where is it located?
[17:48] <sacarlson> jarray52: I would have to look
[17:50] <initdv> hi howto init tv ?WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/.
[17:51] <Zoohouse> What's the name of the program that installs restricted drivers (for example the drivers for the wireless adapter of a laptop) in Ubuntu 12.04. I want to tell my friend to run the command in terminal so that program runs and he can install the restriced drivers as soon as he plugs in his laptop to a wired connection. Thanks
[17:51] <irgendwer4711> bazhang: ideas?
[17:51] <Jordan_U> Zoohouse: jocky-gtk
[17:51] <sacarlson> jarray52: for me they would be around /lib/modules/2.6.32-24-generic/kernel/drivers/video$
[17:51] <jarray52> sacarlson: I'm trying update-initramfs -u
[17:52] <Zoohouse> Jordan_U: Thank you
[17:52] <jarray52> sacarlson: Need to reboot. brb
[17:52] <Jordan_U> Zoohouse: You're welcome. You can also just use the Unity search bar and search for "Additional Drivers" (or just "drivers") and select it from there.
[17:53] <Zoohouse> Jordan_U: ah, I should have thought of that. Thanks again
[17:53] <Jordan_U> Zoohouse: You're welcome :)
[17:56] <omit> Hello. I am quite desperate. I spent my whole afternoon trying to fix my boot, broken by a simple update given from the update manager (in Xubuntu 12.04). I tried to reinstall grub, but I still have the same problem: after I choose to boot on any kernel version with Grub, a blank screen appears, with a blinking cursor. I also tried the "nomodeset" and such, but nothing works, even in "rescue" mode, where strange messages about this and th
[17:56] <nOStahl> hi guys, can i update a system installed on my hd with a live cd chroot?
[17:56] <omit> I also tried fsck on my booting disk, which didn't solve the problem.
[17:57] <jarray52> sacarlson: rebuilding the initramfs worked. The module got blacklisted this time. Now, I just need to activate the radeon module.
[17:57] <sacarlson> jarray52: /lib/modules/`uname -a`/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915.ko
[17:57] <sacarlson> jarray52: oh ok
[17:58] <nOStahl> scarlson someone having issue with blank screen?
[17:58] <fizy[laptop]> i was moving a partition over, and it encountered a bad sector. it said it rolled back the last change to my partition table, but now it says /dev/sda7 is an unknown partition. is there any way i can recover the data off all of the other sectors?
[17:58] <omit> I'm afraid that if I just reinstal xubuntu, the same stupid thing will happen again.
[17:58] <sacarlson> nOStahl: it was jarray52 asking where his driver could be found,  not sure of the details
[17:58] <thedrew87> Hey guys!  I have an interesting issue with Samba sharing with an NFS mount point.  Can anyone help me out please?
[17:59] <nOStahl> scarlson ah, Im throwing ubuntu 10.04 (needed for a code project) on a thinkpad r51 its blank screen on boot up. wondering if I can chroot into the install from a live cd and update the kernel to fix?
[17:59] <sacarlson> thedrew87: maybe
[17:59] <Jordan_U> fizy[laptop] Do you have backups of all of the really critical data?
[17:59] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: not really
[18:00] <chigy> Nipo hewani kaka....priva
[18:00] <Jordan_U> fizy[laptop]: Hopefully you've learned your lesson on that now then. Do you have a drive large enough to hold a complete image of the failing drive?
[18:00] <sacarlson> nOStahl: that can normaly be corrected with adding nomodeset in grub kernel boot line
[18:00] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: does it have to hold the whole drive? or just the partition?
[18:00] <nOStahl> I'm not seeing grub menu when it boots up
[18:01] <sacarlson> nOStahl: this might have details you need http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[18:01] <jarray52> nOStahl: cat /etc/default/grub
[18:02] <sacarlson> nOStahl: you need to hold shift at boot to get to grub2
[18:02] <jarray52> nOStahl: Then, look at grub_timeout
[18:02] <nOStahl> ok
[18:02] <nOStahl> let me try that
[18:02] <Jordan_U> fizy[laptop]: A whole drive image would be better if it's not too much work, since you were moving the partiiton.
[18:03] <chigy> How can i change the grub orientation?
[18:03] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: its a 1tb  drive. i was just sliding the partition over to make room for another one next to it. also, sda7 is my main root partition
[18:03] <Jordan_U> chigy: What do you mean by orientation? Something like turning the grub menu 90 degrees?
[18:04] <thedrew87> I have an interesting issue with Samba and NFS. I have been working on this issue for about 1.5 weeks with not much luck. My current running environment involves 2 Ubuntu 12.04 releases. What I am trying to do is use Server 1 to mount using NFS on the shared directory in Server 2. On Sever 1 I am running Samba that is currently sharing out the mounted volume. I am able to create new files on a Windows 7 box just fine in the Samba
[18:04] <nOStahl> k seen grub loading and then it flashed no such disk and then waited for a little bit then it went straight to booting ubuntu...
[18:04] <nOStahl> no grub menu
[18:04] <newbie2112> Hi all :)  I noticed that  in 'Additional drivers' there are 2 ati drivers, I can install one but not the post-release, does this happen to you? Is the post-release one any better?
[18:04] <sacarlson> nOStahl: posibly you have a usb keyboard, if so then grub won't see it unless bios is set to legacy
[18:04] <Jordan_U> fizy[laptop]: /dev/sda7 is the partiton which you were resizing?
[18:04] <nOStahl> its the built in laptop's keyboard
[18:05] <Darkenvy> Im back. my VPS provider asked me to check my resolvers. what does that mean? ("route -n" returns nothing but 0.0.0.0)
[18:05] <chigy> Jordan: I mean, can i change the sequence of the OS in the list?
[18:05] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: yes, and ill brb. my family is being........my family
[18:05] <sacarlson> nOStahl: did you HOLD the SHIFT key as it boots?
[18:05] <nOStahl> ya thats how the grub loading showed up
[18:06] <ASSENGA> kijan kijana
[18:06] <Jordan_U> chigy: Do you really care about the order from top to bottom in the menu, or just which entry boots by default? (it's much easier to change the default entry).
[18:06] <sacarlson> nOStahl: not sure maybe the up down keys or it will still count down?
[18:06] <ASSENGA> chiga:uko wap kijana
[18:07] <chigy> Jordan: Yes, i also want to know how to so that....
[18:07] <nOStahl> ahha got it
[18:07] <nOStahl> in grub menu now
[18:07] <Jordan_U> !tab | chigy
[18:07] <nOStahl> where do I add nomodeset
[18:07] <chigy> ASSENGA: ip vipi?
[18:08] <sacarlson> nOStahl: the link above has more details
[18:08] <Jordan_U> chigy: Please be clear on what exactly you want to do.
[18:08] <nOStahl> ty
[18:08] <nOStahl> looking
[18:08] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: im back
[18:08] <jarray52> Where should I activate the radeon driver?
[18:08] <ASSENGA> chigy:ngoja ni kupe
[18:09] <chigy> Jordan_U, I want to change the default boot up OS in the grub list..
[18:09] <chigy> ubottu, Thanks musch...now i gat it..
[18:10] <nOStahl> what is quiet splash
[18:10] <chigy> ubottu, Whatever...just thanks...
[18:11] <ASSENGA> 172.37.73.205,chigy
[18:11] <sacarlson> nOStahl: the splash I think is the prity stuf you see at boot otherwise you see text status as it boots
[18:11] <nOStahl> ah and the quiet?
[18:11] <sacarlson> nOStahl: again that turns off the text I think
[18:11] <Jordan_U> chigy: You can change the default entry to be booted by changing the GRUB_DEFAULT variable in /etc/default/grub as described here: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Simple-configuration
[18:12] <nOStahl> ah ok
[18:12] <Dotman14> Thanks for all the help.
[18:12] <Dotman14> After doing
[18:12] <Dotman14> sudo apt-get install tasksel
[18:12] <Dotman14> sudo apt-get install APP_NAME
[18:12] <Dotman14> I got the following result....
[18:12] <FloodBot1> Dotman14: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:12] <Dotman14> Reading package lists... Done
[18:12] <Dotman14> Building dependency tree
[18:12] <chigy> ASSENGA, Ila nna green network value
[18:12] <bonno> i am new on ubuntu and i try to connect via ssh from linux to windows and i just cant connect why?
[18:12] <akls> I have one of my connections set to "shared to other computers" and it works, but it stops working every 2 minutes, to fix that I had to disable networking and enable it again. What's the problem?
[18:12] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: im back
[18:13] <Dotman14> sudo apt-get install tasksel
[18:13] <Dotman14> sudo apt-get install APP_NAME
[18:13] <Dotman14> I got the following result....
[18:13] <Dotman14> Reading package lists... Done
[18:13] <Dotman14> Building up dependency tree
[18:13] <Dotman14> Reading state information.. Done
[18:13] <FloodBot1> Dotman14: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:13] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | Dotman14
[18:13] <olskolirc> bonno you need an ssh program on windows to make a connection.  Try install putty.exe on Windows
[18:13] <sacarlson> bonno: you sure you don't want to ssh from windows to linux?  otherwise do you have an ssh server running in the windows box?
[18:13] <chigy> Jordan_U, Thanks much...i got it..
[18:13] <Jordan_U> chigy: You're welcome.
[18:14] <t0ntin> Hi, all. I installed 12.04, updated it, restarted, got to the part where I choose either windows or ubuntu, I chose Ubuntu and the computer reboots every time. Any ideas?
[18:14] <nOStahl> it has nomode set and booted I could see the text cause i disabled quiet splash, but its back at the black screen just the same
[18:14] <thedrew87> Trying to share out a NFS mount with Samba share.  No problem creating files but editing and saving I receive an error "This file is already in use by another user".  Has anyone experienced that before?
[18:14] <bonno> i have installed putty..it should be running though right? (sorry i i sound stupid but i am new to all this..)
[18:14] <chigy> ASSENGA, 172.37.69.235
[18:14] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: How long after selecting Ubuntu does it reboot? Do you see any error messages before it reboots?
[18:14] <akls> I have one of my connections set to "shared to other computers" and it works, but it stops working every 2 minutes, to fix that I had to disable networking and enable it again. What's the problem?
[18:14] <bonno> i ssh-ed from windows to linux.. :p
[18:15] <sacarlson> nOStahl: so it goes black at the point for starting X then?
[18:15] <nOStahl> ya like where it should start the login screen
[18:15] <t0ntin> jordan_u, it does it immediately. No errors.
[18:15] <nOStahl> live cd 11.04 works fine
[18:15] <nOStahl> wondering if I should load it up and setup a chroot to the 10.04 and update it
[18:15] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: Does the recovery mode entry do the same?
[18:16] <sacarlson> bonno: then you will need to have an ssh-server installed on the linux side to allow a incoming connection
[18:16] <t0ntin> jordan_u, I have no recovery mode. All i see in the start-up screen is "windows" "ubuntu"
[18:16] <bonno> actually from linux to windows it gives me a timed-out message..should the puTTY be running?    from windows to linux it works just fine)
[18:16] <Thehelpfulone> hi guys. how popular is distributing ubuntu through bitorrent? I've got some spare bandwidth I can use to seed
[18:16] <judgen> how do i use multiple screens withouth propritetary drivers
[18:16] <judgen> *displays*
[18:16] <Jordan_U> nOStahl: I don't think that wit 10.04 you'll be able to do an upgrade to a new release of Ubuntu within a chroot do to Upstart not yet supporting chroots properly in 10.04.
[18:17] <nOStahl> not upgrade just update
[18:17] <akls> Thehelpfulone, it is very popular, I think there's no need
[18:17] <nOStahl> update the kernel should fix this issue
[18:17] <sacarlson> nOStahl: I would look at what kernel is running on the live cd compared to what they install when on hard disk with uname -a
[18:17] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: Have you changed grub settings to get the menu to act that way?
[18:18] <sacarlson> nOStahl: if it's different maybe try install the live cd kernel on the disk,
[18:18] <t0ntin> jordan_u, I don't think so, it's always been that way. I've installed and uninstalled several times
[18:18] <chigy> Jordan_U, How can i copy a file via ssh to myself from the host computer..help!!
[18:18] <akls> I have one of my connections set to "shared to other computers" and it works, but it stops working every 2 minutes, to fix that I had to disable networking and enable it again. What's the problem?
[18:18] <Thehelpfulone> akls: ok, I can do it anyways then, else it will just go unused :)
[18:18] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: Can you take a photograph of your boot menu? I've never seen this.
[18:18] <akls> Thehelpfulone, you can do it for less popular distributions, lubuntu for example
[18:19] <sacarlson> nOStahl: oh and look at the /var/log/syslog file when you boot with the live cd to see what errors might have happened to the display drivers
[18:19] <t0ntin> jordan_u, I can, but it would take a while. How long will you be here?
[18:20] <McRibwich> d
[18:20] <Thehelpfulone> akls: ah, will do thanks
[18:20] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: In and out for a long time.
[18:20] <t0ntin> ok, i'll try to do that. bbl. thanks
[18:20] <sarsaeol> is there anyway to lock the local terminal when a vnc user logs in to a 12.04 desktop?
[18:20] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: is it possible (and reasonable) to make a copy of the partition on the same drive? sda has enough room to copy sda7 out of the extended partition to a new sda3 (the "disk utility" SMART status monitor says the disk has 2 failing sectors. looks like i found 1, lets hope like hell the other is not in the free space (also, the 2 have been failing for a long time. so its not "actively deteriorating". its likely a ma
[18:22] <Jordan_U> fizy[laptop]: Your message was cut off at "its likely a ma".
[18:22] <jarray52> In order to add a kernel module to the kernel before the x server starts up, where should the command 'modprobe radeon' be added?
[18:22] <fizy[laptop]> its likely a manufacturing defect))
[18:23] <atpa8a> hello
[18:23] <zykotick9> jarray52: see /etc/modules - don't reply to me!  i've added you to /ignore due to ati use.
[18:24] <Malgorath> I just installed and updated a Zotac Zbox with intel video card with Ubuntu 12.04 i386. Everything is working great except i can't raise the resolution above 800x600. any help or ideas? I've done some googling but not really sure what to do as most of the stuff is a bit odd. I had to install from usb as thismachine has no cdrom drives
[18:25] <zykotick9> Malgorath: what video card?  "lspci | grep -i vga"
[18:25] <nOStahl> instead of chroot I forgot about recovery kernel, I'm in there logged into root with networking option and its upgrading the system now
[18:26] <omit> thank you for non help
[18:26] <val_> hello in the launcher i have a software but i need to launch this one with admin permissions
[18:26] <val_> if i click on the icon
[18:26] <wrapids> I'm having a problem saving files remotely. I was using Eclipse and the RSE plugin over ssh to browse the directories and load the files for editing. Yesterday some files stopped updating remotely. If I restart (computer, eclipse, clear eclipse cache) it still loads the file that I saved. If I hop onto the server via terminal and cat the file the changes are not reflected in the file. I thought this was an RSE issue and switched to Subclipse and commited the
[18:27] <wrapids> changes through Subversion. Same problem. I scrapped Eclipse and switched to RapidSVN and am still having the same problem. I own some of the files that aren't working, some of them belong to others. It's only a few files though, I can't for the life of me figure out what the problem is.
[18:27] <val_> it launches normallyu
[18:27] <ASSENGA> chigy;em jaribu tena
[18:27] <val_> how can i run an application in admin mode from the laucnher ??
[18:27] <Malgorath> zykotick9, the output was 00:02.0 VGA comptaible controller: Intel Corporation N10 Family Intergrated graphics controller (rev 02) But I know its an Intel GMA 3150
[18:27] <zykotick9> val_: you probably need to edit the .desktop file and add gksuo to it.  i have no further deatils, good luck.
[18:28] <sacarlson> nOStahl: sometimes older is better than newer in the event that doesn't work
[18:28] <chigy> ASSENGA, Ip ileile?
[18:28] <akls> val_, gksudo appname
[18:28] <zykotick9> Malgorath: interesting.  sorry i'm no help - good luck.
[18:28] <nOStahl> sacarlson: have to use 10.04 for this software this device will be running.
[18:28] <val_> zykotick9: no further details ? how to edit the .desktop file ?
[18:28] <Malgorath> zykotick9, np mate. I am not a noob to linux but for some reason everything i try with this so far is nothing.
[18:28] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: are you still there?
[18:29] <zykotick9> val_: not sure - sorry i don't use ubuntu.
[18:29] <nOStahl> the newer ubuntu's work fine out of the box on this thinkpad r51 heh they just had issue with the graphics driver on 10.04 it seems
[18:29] <val_> zykotick9: ok
[18:29] <sacarlson> nOStahl: I mean the kernel as I would expect the kernel on the live cd might be older that what they install but not sure
[18:29] <ASSENGA> 172.37.221.27,chigy
[18:29] <nOStahl> previous 9.10 worked and 11+ works
[18:29] <Malgorath> val_,  gksudo gedit /path/to/filename
[18:29] <sacarlson> nOStahl: oh ok so then you can get backports to those if they worked
[18:30] <Jordan_U> ASSENGA: What does your last message mean?
[18:30] <nOStahl> its too bad they don't make new ISO's to download 10.04 with all the updates?
[18:30] <nOStahl> why don't they do that
[18:30] <nOStahl> keep current iso's updated
[18:30] <xangua> n0cturnal: they do
[18:30] <ASSENGA> jornan_u,chigy needs to ssh me
[18:31] <Jordan_U> nOStahl: They do, that's what point releases are.
[18:31] <xangua> 10.04.4 comes with all secutiry updates until april i believe nOStahl
[18:31] <val_> Malgorath: good thanks
[18:31] <sacarlson> nOStahl: you can make them yourself not hard to make a custom live cd
[18:31] <ASSENGA> chigy,umefanikiwa
[18:32] <nOStahl> i might be interested in that later on.
[18:32] <chigy> ASSENGA, Ndo napiga.
[18:32] <nOStahl> live cd's
[18:32] <nOStahl> I'm taking these old think pads an repurposing them as digital picture frames
[18:32] <sacarlson> nOStahl: oh now that you have to do it you will have to think about it,  let someone else do the work for you
[18:32] <nOStahl> thinking of doing pata to cf adapters and throwing cf cards in them
[18:33] <squarepeg> hello
[18:33] <endeav0ur> soup
[18:33] <nOStahl> cause none of these laptops i get have hard drives in them.
[18:34] <nOStahl> so cf cards might be nice to cut down power usage.
[18:34] <nOStahl> also ripping the dvd drives out of them
[18:34] <Jordan_U> fizy[laptop]: What type of resize did you do exactly? Were you changing the start of the partition or the end of the partition?
[18:34] <cristian_c> Hi
[18:34] <ASSENGA> chigy,ushajua how to copy
[18:34] <rgms> Hi. I'm using HUD and it always is able to use the panel (bluetooth, networking etc). Is there a workaround for this?
[18:34] <squarepeg> I have a strange, recurring problem, wherein my browser seems to consume all my resources using JavaScript, but the all-consuming process doesn't show up when I'm running top
[18:34] <ASSENGA> hi cris
[18:34] <cristian_c> Is there a method to install the microsfot media pack in ubuntu?
[18:35] <cristian_c> I'm using midori
[18:35] <cristian_c> *microsoft
[18:35] <sacarlson> nOStahl: it would be cool to make a whole wall out of them if you could sync the image to make them all look like one big screen
[18:35] <squarepeg> How is it that my computer can be almost completely unresponsive while top reveals no significant CPU or memory usage by any particular process?
[18:35] <cristian_c> ASSENGA, h
[18:35] <cristian_c> *hi
[18:35] <xangua> cristian_c: microsoft media pack¿¿
[18:35] <chigy> ASSENGA, Yap yap halafu tayari..
[18:35] <cristian_c> xangua, ya
[18:35] <chigy> ASSENGA, najaribu kucopy sa hivi
[18:35] <nOStahl> sacarlson: aye, they already can have two displays each. by plugging in an external display too :)
[18:35] <comman> This is most probably offtopic, but does anyone know any good programs for windows that can fix ext4? I do not have empty CDs or USBs
[18:36] <xangua> cristian_c: elaborate, you mean audio/video codecs¿
[18:36] <cristian_c> xangua, yes
[18:36] <cristian_c> exactly
[18:36] <alinef> Goo afternoon, folks
[18:36] <nOStahl> so each digital picture frame can handle two displays … well could use vga splitters too and cover more rooms from single laptop
[18:36] <alinef> Good*
[18:36] <cristian_c> xangua, I'm using moonlight
[18:36] <xangua> cristian_c: moonlight has been abandoned
[18:36] <ASSENGA> chigy,success
[18:36] <Malgorath> squarepeg, first off, sudo apt-get install htop <--- better topIMO, second when you have the unresponsive moments, try just running Uptime there will be 3 numbers like 0.01 , 0.03, 0.02
[18:37] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: heres the story. sda1 is a windows partition, so if linux ever failed me, i would have a back up. sda2 is an extended. sda5 is an old ubuntu install, sda6 is its swap. sda7 is the current ubuntu, sda8 is its swap. i was trying to resize sda5 down, then slide sda6,7,and 8 over, then collapse the extended partition to create more freespace at the end.
[18:37] <cristian_c> xangua, sorry, how can I install the media pack?
[18:37] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: i have gedits log file, if you want to see it
[18:37] <Jordan_U> fizy[laptop]: Sure, please pastebin it.
[18:37] <xangua> cristian_c: moonlight has been ABANDONED
[18:37] <chigy> ASSENGA, Umeunga?
[18:37] <squarepeg> thanks Malgorath
[18:38] <xangua> cristian_c: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/linux-silverlight-plugin-moonlight-abandoned
[18:38] <fizy[laptop]> pastebin doesnt work on my isp. pm me your email and ill send the .htm file to you
[18:38] <Zoohouse> Welcome Zookeepe
[18:38] <squarepeg> The most resource consuming script is this: https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/c/phoenix/en/bundle/t1-hogan-core.31877243a75b36a46d0b9502a2ca8b41.js:20
[18:38] <sacarlson> fizy[laptop]: I don't think you need 2 swap partitions
[18:38] <sarsaeol> is there anyway to lock the local terminal when a vnc user logs in to a 12.04 desktop?
[18:38] <cristian_c> xangua, ok, but I have to see asilverlight content
[18:38] <squarepeg> I get tired of seeing that twimg0-a.akamaihd.net while my computer is unresponsive
[18:38] <cristian_c> xangua, I've already installed moonlight, however
[18:38] <fizy[laptop]> sacarlson: i know. but i didnt when i made that mistake. oh well, no harm done
[18:39] <squarepeg> okay, htop...
[18:39] <xangua> cristian_c: anyways moonlight never had all silverlight features, and it is/was also a mozilla plugin
[18:39] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: pastebin doesnt work on my isp. pm me your email and ill send the .htm file to you
[18:39] <CookieM_> moonlight doesn't support drm
[18:39] <wrapids> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10952177/not-updating-remote-files-after-save
[18:39] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: also, its gparted, not gedit. sorry about that
[18:39] <cristian_c> xangua, Which package is related to the media pack
[18:40] <cristian_c> ?
[18:40] <sacarlson> fizy[laptop]: well at the size of a swap partition you could make it a /boot partition but more trouble than it's worth I would think for little gain
[18:40] <Malgorath> fizy[laptop], there are about 100 different pastebins out there
[18:40] <Sami345> I am trying to set up encrypted "Private" folder. I have ".Private" folder in my home directory which contains some encrypted data but I don't have unencrypted "Private" folder.
[18:40] <Jordan_U> fizy[laptop]: There are many pastebin sites, I'm sure one of them will work.
[18:40] <alinef> Hello! Anyone here EVER packaged an application for Ubuntu?
[18:40] <Jordan_U> !anyone | alinef
[18:40] <squarepeg> htop is nice
[18:41] <squarepeg> htop is a lot sexier than top
[18:41] <fizy[laptop]> Malgorath: no. its something with the upload speed. its a livng hell, just dont ask about it. if its under ~~100 bytes, it works. anything over, not so much
[18:41] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: no. its something with the upload speed. its a livng hell, just dont ask about it. if its under ~~100 bytes, it works. anything over, not so much
[18:41] <sacarlson> alinef: I've read about it and posibly tried it 1 or 2 times some time ago
[18:42] <Malgorath> squarepeg, I know, its just amazing, plus its so much easire to find processes and kill them eh?
[18:42] <Segnale007> I have a problem on ubuntu 12.04 64 bits. When connected to AC with few applications running in background the screen doesn't go to sleep after a certain time
[18:42] <alinef> sacarlson: thanks! I want to help package the emesene version to update the ppa for ubuntu users, but I have no idea of HOW to do it.
[18:42] <Segnale007> any idea ?
[18:42] <alexander---> I got pinged!
[18:44] <ASSENGA> chigy,niambie vp una copy nini
[18:44] <kurtwp_> alexander---: did it hurt
[18:45] <chigy> ASSENGA, Hamna kitu inazingua..
[18:45] <squarepeg> Malgorath: yeah, it's more informative
[18:45] <qubit[0|1]> i cant seem to find outgoing requests on wireshark, wtf
[18:46] <qubit[0|1]> its all incoming
[18:46] <alexander---> I got pinged!
[18:46] <ASSENGA> chigy,acha bhana haikopi it means au
[18:46] <Zookeepe> Hello all.. Just instaled Linux for the first time ever.
[18:46] <squarepeg> Malgorath: and the interface is easier to use
[18:46] <chigy> ASSENGA, Hamna lazima iwe inakopy...em jaribu wewe!!
[18:47] <Pici> !english | chigy ASSENGA
[18:47] <genii-around> !en
[18:47] <chigy> ASSENGA, 172.37.69.235
[18:47] <ASSENGA> chigy,poa
[18:47] <sacarlson> alinef: I just read what I forgot as I think I was doing it the simple way with checkinstall but if it's distributed it's a bit more complicated
[18:48] <Zoohouse> Zookeepe: Welcome to Ubuntu
[18:48] <ASSENGA> chigy,chigy au chigybuntu
[18:48] <Zoohouse> Zookeepe: Nice name
[18:48] <chigy> ubottu, OK guys we will now use english.....
[18:48] <sacarlson> alinef: to start read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[18:48] <alexander---> I got pinged!
[18:48] <chigy> ASSENGA, chigybuntu
[18:49] <alinef> sacarlson, ok then
[18:49] <alinef> I'll read it
[18:49] <chigy> ASSENGA, ***********201
[18:49] <Zoohouse> Jordan_U: Zookeepe is the user I was helping to get the wireless to work. It worked after he installed the drivers via jocky-gtk
[18:49] <ASSENGA> wory out guys its swahili from eastafrica tanzania
[18:50] <trism> alinef: just for reference, there is already a ppa: https://launchpad.net/~emesene-team/+archive/emesene-stable (with the latest release)
[18:50] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: i tethered thru my droid to avoid my ip. pastebin.com/40K8dRxD
[18:50] <alinef> I know, trism
[18:51] <Sami345> mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/sami345/.Private': Permission denied O.o
[18:51] <alexander---> I got pinged!
[18:51] <alinef> But the version there is ooold, and the recent one came with a lot of fix ups and good changes
[18:51] <Sami345> I don't have permission to create a folder in my own home folder?
[18:51] <Pici> alexander---: please stop that.
[18:51] <Zookeepe> thank you zoohouse
[18:51] <Zoohouse> Zookeepe: np
[18:51] <sacarlson> alinef: if it exists why is it your makeing another one?  you branching a new version?
[18:51] <Zookeepe> Zoohouse. thanks
[18:51] <alinef> That's why I want to help them out to package it to all other ubuntu users who like emesene
[18:51] <Tronic> Where did the config GUI for power button go? Pressing the power button displays a dialog asking me to choose what to do.
[18:51] <trism> alinef: no, it is the latest release from 4 days ago
[18:52] <lime_> I am on ubuntu 12.04 and keep trying to view the local computers on my network and keep running into issues.
[18:52] <lime_> How do you display computers on your wifi network?
[18:52] <Tronic> Also, the power button does nothing when the screen is locked.
[18:52] <alinef> The latest one is 2.12.5
[18:52] <Tronic> Is there a way to make it suspend to computer without having to unlock first?
[18:52] <trism> alinef: yes
[18:52] <alinef> And it was released 3 days ago
[18:53] <alexander---> I got pinged!
[18:53] <ASSENGA> chigy,nothigy gud bro may be network problem
[18:53] <fizy[laptop]> alexander---: im gonna ping you in the face if you keep that up
[18:54] <trism> alinef: https://launchpad.net/~emesene-team/+archive/emesene-stable/+build/3559891 finished an hour ago
[18:54] <t0ntin> Jordan_u, you available? I have the pictures
[18:54] <sacarlson> alinef: it shows that emesene was updated 1 hour ago, that recent and they compiled an old version?
[18:54] <nickoe> what is the default network manager in xfce (xubuntu) ?
[18:55] <alinef> sacarlson, I saw it
[18:55] <alinef> I guess someone who know how, did it before I could!
[18:55] <alinef> sacarlson, trism that's what I was trying to do. Update the ppa version! :D
[18:56] <superuser> hello can anyone help me with installing gmountiso
[18:56] <chigy> ASSENGA, Sure man, it seems its the network problem because i had it correct but the command is failing to request....let me try again..
[18:56] <sacarlson> alinef: that's ok there are many more things to be updated for you to continue to work on, don't stop
[18:57] <trism> alinef: wasn't trying to discourage you, it would still be a fun packaging project to work out how to do it (bzr branch lp:ubuntu/precise/emesene; bzr mu ../upstream-tarball; fix the changelog, rebuild, fix the deps if necessary, etc)
[18:57] <CatSec> if I install 2 linux, may I can use same swap partition?
[18:57] <Zoohouse> nickoe: Try asking at #xubuntu
[18:57] <ASSENGA> chigy:wory out try again
[18:57] <zykotick9> CatSec: is you use hibernate then NO.  if not, ya probably fine.
[18:58] <alinef> I'll try to learn how to do it, so next time I can do it myself :D
[18:58] <chigy> ASSENGA, Okayo1!
[18:58] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: you there?
[18:58] <superuser> join #xubuntu
[18:58] <sarsaeol> is there anyway to lock the local terminal when a vnc user logs in to a 12.04 desktop?
[18:58] <superuser> join/ #xubuntu
[18:58] <CatSec> zykotick9: umm, thanks you.
[18:58] <sacarlson> alinef: ya like my multicoin needs to be packaged it's just source now I never created a deb for it https://github.com/sacarlson/MultiCoin
[18:58] <Zoohouse> superuser: it's /join #xubuntu
[18:58] <Jordan_U> fizy[laptop]: I'm not going to forget you, but I am busy with other things. Please be patient.
[18:59] <fizy[laptop]> alright
[18:59] <superuser> zoohouse, yeah i figured it out lol
[19:00] <wrapids> I'm having a problem saving files remotely. I was using Eclipse and the RSE plugin over ssh to browse the directories and load the files for editing. Yesterday some files stopped updating remotely. If I restart (computer, eclipse, clear eclipse cache) it still loads the file that I saved. If I hop onto the server via terminal and cat the file the changes are not reflected in the file. I thought this was an RSE issue and switched to Subclipse and commited the
[19:00] <wrapids> changes through Subversion. Same problem. I scrapped Eclipse and switched to RapidSVN and am still having the same problem. I own some of the files that aren't working, some of them belong to others. It's only a few files though, I can't for the life of me figure out what the problem is.
[19:00] <lime_> Nevermind figured it out need /24 at the end of `sudo nmap -sP 192.168.1.1/24`
[19:00] <GeekAdmin> wrapids:  bummer. Can't you just use SCP in terminal for file transfer?
[19:01] <Jordan_U> fizy[laptop]: First, fuigure out what data you consider most valuable from your working partitions and back that up to another drive.
[19:01] <alinef> sacarlson, what's your project about? :)
[19:01] <wrapids> GeekAdmin: I like my RSE :(
[19:01] <GeekAdmin> wrapids:  Whats RSE?
[19:01] <wrapids> remote system explorer for Eclipse
[19:02] <GeekAdmin> ah I see. I'm not a fan of GUI interfaces. I avoid them when possible
[19:02] <wrapids> It's just a convenience I'd like to keep if I can manage it
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> wrapids  ssh / scp is the fastest way
[19:02] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: if you mean from the sda drive, the only other partitions with data are a winxp that iv never used, and an old ubuntu that iv left for dead. that partition is the only partitino on sda with valuble data
[19:02] <Guest81914> xubuntu is slow on amd sempron 2400+ and 1 gb ram ..... is this how is should be?
[19:05] <t0ntin> jordan_u, I reinstalled ubuntu, but this time I could not even start it the first time. For the first time ever, the GRUB screen appeared. Had never even seen it. https://picasaweb.google.com/boyaqo/Ubuntu?authuser=0&feat=directlink
[19:06] <ASSENGA> chigy,succeed
[19:06] <chigy> ASSENGA, Seems like its copying because it has now not responded for along tym.......have closed the network?
[19:07] <ASSENGA> chigy,no am online bro
[19:08] <chigy> ASSENGA, I dont see u at all.....check out ur network or IP..
[19:08] <avoider> Hi i was wondering if there was a way to remove the dashboard on ubuntu?
[19:08] <avoider> The left side bar.
[19:08] <nannes> !atheros
[19:08] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: Did you install Ubuntu using Wubi?
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> !notunity| avoider
[19:08] <t0ntin> jordan_u, yes
[19:09] <alinef> avoider, you want to remove the dash or change the X client? Like.. Try out gnome-shell or kde?
[19:09] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: That explains everything then. That menu is Windows' boot menu, not grub.
[19:10] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: I don't know how to change the default in Windows' boot menu, and I generally recommend against using Wubi.
[19:10] <t0ntin> i see
[19:10] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: ##windows might be able to tell you how to change the default in Windows' boot menu.
[19:10] <ASSENGA> 172.37.221.27
[19:10] <t0ntin> jordan_u, so i need to change the default to what?
[19:11] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: Sorry, I had you mixed up with another person who wanted to change the boot order.
[19:11] <t0ntin> oh lol
[19:12] <chigy> ASSENGA, I gat it brodah
[19:12] <nannes> Do atheros wifi cards work well with kernel 3.4 ??  I need to know for ar9287 ar9271 ar9170  ar9001u
[19:12] <ASSENGA> chigy,but network is good
[19:12] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: I can make you an iso which will allow you to boot into your Wubi install again if you burn it to a CD, or if you have a GNU/Linux machine you can work from (including a LiveCD/USB) I can tell you how to make a USB drive which will do the same.
[19:13] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: Please file a bug report about it though.
[19:14] <chigy> ASSENGA, Mine is as usual, green
[19:14] <t0ntin> Jordan_u, i could burn it to a cd
[19:15] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: My guess is that the problem lies somewhere in the way that the Windows bootloader is setup to load grub (or how grub is setup to be loaded by the Windows bootloader) which I don't know much about. Using grub from a CD though means that the Windows bootloader isn't involved and things are easier.
[19:15] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: OK, just a minute and I'll have something created.
[19:15] <t0ntin> ok
[19:17] <ahwan> hi all
[19:17] <chigy> ASSENGA, Nimecopy one of your file youth...
[19:18] <ASSENGA> chigy,ooho thats great boy
[19:19] <chigy> ASSENGA, I want to delete....hahaha
[19:19] <ASSENGA> chigy,try it but be care plz
[19:21] <chigy> ASSENGA, chomoa HDD....
[19:22] <Lorick> Hello is there a file I can edit that affects the system settings GUI in Ubuntu? If so where is it located?
[19:23] <avoider> alinef: i want the top panle like old gnome
[19:24] <avoider> alinef: i dont like the side bar dash
[19:24] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: http://jordanu.dyndns.org/grub/wubi_rescue_grub_bzr.iso
[19:24] <kman>  Anyone out there able to provision Samba4 on a ubuntu 12.04 server. I am encountering problems.
[19:26] <t0ntin> jordan_u, so I'll start the computer using that disk and then what do I do?
[19:26] <Jordan_U> fizy[laptop]: Please backup your mbr to another drive with "sudo dd if=/dev/sda count=1 > sda.mbr"
[19:26] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: how big is the mbr?
[19:27] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: Select the option "Load wubi grub.cfg" and then Wubi should start normally.
[19:27] <Jordan_U> fizy[laptop]: 512 bytes.
[19:27] <t0ntin> Jordan_u, ok, thanks a lot.
[19:27] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: and where will that command put my mbr?
[19:27] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: You're welcome.
[19:28] <Jordan_U> fizy[laptop]: In the current directory (which is probably your home directory).
[19:29] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: right now im using ubuntu from a flash drive (which is also how i used gparted). is that fine?
[19:29] <Jordan_U> fizy[laptop]: Yes. You'll need to make sure that dd.mbr is saved somewhere such that it doesn't go away when you shut down though.
[19:30] <fizy[laptop]> ok. i made sure to create the boot usb with persistant memory
[19:31] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: i catted (cat sda.mbr) just for fun, and it return mostly gibberish, but near the end it says "GRUB GeomHard DiskRead Error"
[19:32] <Kre10s_> I have just installed ubuntu... The installation had an error while installing the bootloader. I am trying to install it from the "try ubuntu without installing" OS from the usb stick i installed ubuntu with. How would I go about doing this. gub-install sda failed. "is /dev mounted" .
[19:32] <Jordan_U> fizy[laptop]: That's expected.
[19:33] <les_sylvains> hi guys... just wondering if somebody else has a lenovo W520. 12.04 doesn't find the nvidia drivers. tried some googling and now stuck in a very old-school resolution.
[19:33] <les_sylvains> any kind of advice would be appreciated
[19:35] <Jordan_U> fizy[laptop]: Since the GParted log states "perform read-only test  00:11:27    ( ERROR )" in the section "move file system to the left  00:11:27    ( ERROR )" I'm thinking that no move operation was actually done. If that's the case, then your filesystem is fine but the partition table is wrong. If that's true then Testdisk should be able to see where the filesystem actually starts and modify the partition table accordingly.
[19:35] <EdgEy> Hi guys. I have a USB mass storage device that is recognised in Windows (it's a camera that doubles as a card reader). In Ubuntu nothing really happens when it's plugged in. Nothing in lsusb, nothing to mount in file manager, etc.
[19:35] <Jordan_U> fizy[laptop]: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[19:35] <choppyfireballs> does anyone in here know anything about http post to xml
[19:36] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: i swear, if this works, i will track you down and mail you a box of cookies
[19:36] <zykotick9> EdgEy: is this a hybrid-graphics setup?  does "lspci -v | grep -i vga" show two entries intel/nvidia?
[19:36] <zykotick9> les_sylvains: ^ sorry wrong nick
[19:36] <EdgEy> I thought that. hehe
[19:37] <choppyfireballs> anything about http posting to xml
[19:38] <les_sylvains> choppyfireballs : what's your question ?
[19:38] <nishttal2> hi I had created a software raid-0 of 4 drives using mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=0 -c256 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sdf1 /dev/sdg1 /dev/sdh1 /dev/sdi1
[19:38] <sideone> hey ll
[19:38] <nishttal2> and it worked fine.. but after a reboot its gone
[19:38] <nishttal2> any ideas?
[19:39] <sideone> i have a 19k file full of repeating values with about 90 different values. how can i find a total of each repeated value?
[19:39] <sideone> sorry 19k lines
[19:40] <Zoohouse> sideone: you mean: "222223333311111" I have 3 repeating numbers. That?
[19:40] <Jordan_U> sideone: Try asking in #bash
[19:40] <primenumber> Hello all!
[19:40] <zykotick9> sideone: non-fast/easy way would be "grep VALUE1 file.foo | wc -l"
[19:42] <sideone> zykotick9; yeah but i would have to insert all values into an array and loop?
[19:42] <zykotick9> sideone: #bash ftw ;)
[19:42] <sideone> will do
[19:42] <sideone> thanks guys
[19:43] <kman> anuone out there have Samba 4 working on Ubuntu 12.04.  I am encountering problems with provisioning.  Would appreciate any assistance.
[19:43] <kman> anuone = anyone.
[19:44] <theadmin> sideone: http://sprunge.us/YCXg - here you go, dirty and simple, change the filepath though (duh)
[19:45] <theadmin> sideone: Run with "perl whatever-the-heck-you-named-the-script"
[19:45] <EdgEy> noone knows what I can do if a flash drive is not detected? :/
[19:46] <guntbert> EdgEy: my best answer: throw it away :(
[19:46] <kman> EdgEy -  I'll ask the obvious - have you tried a different flash drive?
[19:46] <EdgEy> kman, yes
[19:46] <EdgEy> and this flash drive works under Windows
[19:46] <shahriyarguliyev> hi there, i am new to linux, i have to install which is not included in Synaptic Package, so have to install from directly tarball. Since I don't know how to install tarballs. WHo can help?
[19:47] <guntbert> shahriyarguliyev: what do you want to install?
[19:47] <kman> EdgEy  - I would not be surprised if there are some flashdrives that work with windows but would fail with a Linux box.
[19:48] <shahriyarguliyev> guntbert: Seamonkey browser
[19:48] <EdgEy> so, there is nothing I can do? hm
[19:48] <theadmin> shahriyarguliyev: Mozilla people have a PPA :/
[19:48] <kman> EdgEy  - I would find a flahs drive that I could varify worked with a different Linux box and use this as a test.
[19:49] <shahriyarguliyev> theadmin: what is PPA?
[19:49] <theadmin> !ppa | shahriyarguliyev
[19:49] <EdgEy> kman: I know that my system can use flash drives, I have four or five that work
[19:49] <EdgEy> and a few card readers and mp3 players etc, those all load as mass storage device without me needing to do anything
[19:49] <OerHeks> theadmin, they 'had' a ppa ..
[19:49] <EdgEy> this one.. well under windows it appears as a mass storage device, on Ubuntu it doesn't even come up in lsusb or similar
[19:49] <shahriyarguliyev> theadmin: so what I can install Seamonkey this way?
[19:49] <guntbert> EdgEy: one idea: do you have an usb extension cable?
[19:49] <theadmin> OerHeks: Oh?
[19:50] <theadmin> shahriyarguliyev: Their tarball is binary, just unpack it and run "seamonkey" from inside if you want to do it this way.
[19:50] <EdgEy> guntbert I have tried the drive with a few different cables (it has a micro usb port)
[19:50] <EdgEy> long and short
[19:51] <shahriyarguliyev> theadmin: oh I got you. but those tarballs ends with .deb. well Seamonkey's tarball ends with .tar.gz that demands special way
[19:51] <guntbert> EdgEy: ok, it was just an idea, that the contacts might not align properly
[19:51] <EdgEy> :)
[19:51] <theadmin> shahriyarguliyev: I just told you what to do with it -_- deb packages aren't even tarballs, they're some freaky AR constructs.
[19:51] <EdgEy> it is very odd, I mean, there are two ways I can 'solve' the problem
[19:52] <EdgEy> one is to put the micro SD in a card reader.. but it is inconvenient
[19:52] <EdgEy> the other is to boot into windows but that is even more so
[19:52] <shahriyarguliyev> theadmin: i said im new to linux.
[19:52] <EdgEy> means I have to carry more things with me on the go
[19:53] <theadmin> shahriyarguliyev: Okay, no problem, right-click the .tar.gz and choose "Extract" or whatever, go into the folder it creates, find a file called "seamonkey" and double-click it. Clear enough? :P
[19:53] <guntbert> EdgEy: I have never seen that behavior before - so I cannot help, sorry
[19:53] <EdgEy> not a problem, thanks anyway
[19:54] <guntbert> theadmin: thats not the usual way to install a program from a tarball, I doubt if it will work - or did you try it yourself?
[19:54] <theadmin> guntbert: Mozilla's tarballs are simply binaries and libraries stuffed altogether with a launcher script, not source-code
[19:54] <xubuntu5> hello,  i am having trouble with permissions, i am trying to allow a user to access a USB mount any way of doing this i tried chmod -R 755 "Mount" and it appears to do stuff but then the permissions have changed any help would be greatly appreciated
[19:54] <theadmin> s/altogether/all together/
[19:55] <guntbert> theadmin: ahh, I didn't know that
[19:55] <EdgEy> xubuntu5, try chown ?
[19:55] <shahriyarguliyev> theadmin: there are three seamonkey related files in it. Seamonkey -shell script, .png and -bin
[19:55] <ufrgs> Hello guys!
[19:56] <xubuntu5> but it can only have one owner right?
[19:56] <theadmin> shahriyarguliyev: The one that's the script is the one you want.
[19:56] <ufrgs> Doe anybody here uses any Android tether tool and could help me to install it here please?
[19:56] <theadmin> xubuntu5: Yeah, but you can make a group.
[19:57] <shahriyarguliyev> theadmin: it opened gedit
[19:57] <xubuntu5> will try thanks
[19:57] <ufrgs> I have proxoid here intalled but don't know how to install it.
[19:57] <shahriyarguliyev> theadmin: i don't know anything about text editors
[19:57] <theadmin> shahriyarguliyev: Bah, that's weird, maybe nautilus has something messed up (it's not what's supposed to happen)
[19:58] <schultza> does this mean i have VT-d available to set up if i install xen? ==> http://pastebin.com/kmmjYF2s
[19:58] <fizy[laptop]> is "master boot record" partitioning scheme the same as "intel/pc" partitioning scheme?
[19:58] <Whitor> found a bug in 12.04... SD card locked (with switch) try to write to, says read only ... (expected) ... eject card properly, move switch off lock, reinsert, re-attempt write... system still thinks it is read only ... reboot... works fine.
[19:58] <shahriyarguliyev> theadmin: it is not weird. script should be opened with editor
[19:58] <theadmin> shahriyarguliyev: No, it's supposed to be ran
[19:58] <theadmin> shahriyarguliyev: At least when it's executable, which... Let me try it here
[19:58] <bitfish> Hey When I get into my computer Ubuntu crashes but the previous version did not crash at all is it the kernel that changed or is my problem common?
[19:59] <shahriyarguliyev> theadmin: ever used ubuntu?
[19:59] <theadmin> shahriyarguliyev: Uh yeah, for about 2 years
[19:59] <OerHeks> shahriyarguliyev, why do you need seamonkey? you started something that isn't in the repository's
[19:59] <bitfish> I have been for the past 3 years.
[19:59] <shahriyarguliyev> theadmin: good, it has always opened editor
[19:59] <Jordan_U> !bug | Whitor
[19:59] <theadmin> shahriyarguliyev: Nuh-uh, not back when I used it, back then it asked if you want to run the script
[19:59] <nikin> hi. a week ago i had my worst experience ever about linux installation, and Ubuntu gave me that. On a box, which was running Linux Mint before i wanted to install the newest LTS ubuntu, 12.04. I could not even get to the installler... and yes i was using a USB BLueRay drive to do that.. but please, in the age of netbooks... come on. The system kept crashing on me before i even got to X. And we are speaking Celeron D and Integrated Intel. 12-a-do
[19:59] <shahriyarguliyev> OerHeks: yes installing Seamonkey that is not inclued in Synaptic pack.
[20:00] <shahriyarguliyev> theadmin: it didnt ask, just opened in gedit
[20:00] <fizy[laptop]> is "master boot record" partitioning scheme the same as "intel/pc" partitioning scheme?
[20:00] <kurohata> buonasera
[20:00] <kurohata> =)
[20:00] <Kevin_> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a
[20:00] <Kevin_> old laptop, but I'm getting an error the cpu doesn't support pae
[20:01] <OerHeks> fizy[laptop], yes, intel/pc uses the same mbr method
[20:01] <fizy[laptop]> OerHeks: awesome
[20:01] <Whitor> Jordan_U, no idea what <package> this would be... I'm reporting it here. I have my workaround... Just wanted to let others know. Do with it what you will.
[20:01] <Kevin_> I think the processor is the one at http://ark.intel.com/products/27581/Intel-Pentium-M-Processor-715-%282M-Cache-1_50-GHz-400-MHz-FSB%29  , which says pae is supported?
[20:02] <t0ntin> Jordan_u, No luck. I chose Load wubi grub.cfg, the screen goes blank for a moment, the CD drive is accessed, and the same screen appears again. Ubuntu will not start.
[20:02] <xubuntu5> how do i give folder access to the group it's associated with this is a folder on a USB mount in /media
[20:02] <shahriyarguliyev> theadmin: can u better tell me how to install .tar.gz?
[20:02] <nytek_> shahriyarguliyev: sudo apt-get install tar
[20:03] <bitfish> well if your also desperate enough you could always a VM witch works just as well as the real deal.
[20:03] <shahriyarguliyev> nytek_: thanks it worked. nah! dude it is not easier as you say
[20:03] <Pici> nytek_: tar should enarly always be installed.
[20:03] <theadmin> Pici: That was some sort of a joke.
[20:04] <shahriyarguliyev> nytek_: tar is already installed btw
[20:04] <theadmin> shahriyarguliyev: Look, .tar.gz is just an archive, like .zip, .rar, .7z, .arc or such -- you don't "install" archives, do you? They're different.
[20:04] <twig11> I need help troubleshooting a video problem after upgrading to a ATI Radeon 7000 graphics card from the onboard intel graphics on a dell gx520. It insists on falling back to unity 2d even though it's supposed to work with 3d on ubuntu. I've googled this problem and I feel like I'm in over my head. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[20:04] <spartan2276> How can I get my pen to work on my Bamboo CTE-450? It seems like the driver is installed as I can use the buttons on the tablet but for some reason the pen is not working
[20:04] <theadmin> shahriyarguliyev: As far as I remember, Mozilla's tarballs have always came with an executable script that's supposed to run if you double-click it
[20:05] <theadmin> Well... I'm not so sure about Nautilus nowadays
[20:05] <theadmin> Haven't used that for ages
[20:05] <shahriyarguliyev> theadmin: as a proof of concept it did not come that way. I have to install tarball
[20:05] <bitfish> You have to make it executable with properties.
[20:05] <shahriyarguliyev> who knows how to install .tar.gz?
[20:05] <bitfish> You run them.
[20:05] <theadmin> *sigh*
[20:06] <Jimu> My apt-get is telling me i have unmet dependencies, try using -f. I try 'apt-get install -f ', it  asks to install and then errors out processing a .deb file, 'trying to overwrite /usr/bin/ogrinfo', which is also in package gdal-bin 1.7.3-6ubuntu3
[20:06] <xubuntu5> why does it reset when i do sudo chmod -R 755 "/media/My Book" ?
[20:06] <xangua> shahriyarguliyev: if you mean seamonkey you just extract ir and run it
[20:07] <nikin> Kevin_: there is not much you can do except install 11.10 and upgrade to 12.04 from there ... i read somewhere that works
[20:07] <shahriyarguliyev> xangua: i have to install tarball
[20:07] <xangua> shahriyarguliyev: no, you don't
[20:07] <xangua> it's already executable
[20:07] <theadmin> Hm, Seamonkey doesn't seem to work with recent software (complains about libxul.so here when I try to unpack and run the script from the tarball)
[20:08] <shahriyarguliyev> theadmin: u here? this is the gedit page, lookup : http://postimage.org/image/zezkz07o1/
[20:08] <shahriyarguliyev> xangua: u didnt install seamonkey, it's different
[20:09] <genii-around> shahriyarguliyev: In the future, please consider using an image posting site which does not advertise pronography
[20:09] <bitfish> Haha. lol
[20:10] <Jordan__> Ubuntu I need your help!
[20:10] <Jordan__> Just got a new netbook, trying to put ubuntu on it.
[20:10] <shahriyarguliyev> genii-around: I googled upload image and posted.
[20:10] <Jordan__> My USB installer keeps hanging at SYSLINUX. I've tried LiLi and unetbootin
[20:10] <Pici> xangua: Theres a seamonkey ppa that looks like its only one revision behind here: https://launchpad.net/~joe-nationnet/+archive/seamonkey-dev
[20:11] <Pici> xangua: might be easier to walk shahriyarguliyev through with that than the tarball.
[20:11] <Jordan__> I tried completely formatting my key in both FAT32 and NTFS before making the installer.. still no luck.
[20:11] <theadmin> Jordan__: You can just dd the image onto the USB stick in case you have another Linux machine around (not sure if that'll work for you, but it is a solution)
[20:12] <Jordan__> Yeah, I could. I'd have to get off my couch though.. was hoping for a lazier solution ;)
[20:12] <shahriyarguliyev> xangua: this is the extacted file,  lookup : http://postimage.org/image/i18nvlxc9/ do u see any :run: button? i dont see :/
[20:12] <Jordan__> thanks.
[20:12] <theadmin> Jordan__: Also, you can install Ubuntu without physical installation media by using VirtualBox (point it to a physical partition, install, boot, wipe Windows, etc...)
[20:13] <genii-around> shahriyarguliyev: Perhaps somewhere like http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add or http://picpaste.com/
[20:13] <xangua> (15:09:30) genii-around: shahriyarguliyev: In the future, please consider using an image posting site which does not advertise pronography
[20:13] <Jordan__> Hm. Gotcha. It seems rather silly for so much work to be put in to a community project like this and then have the USB installer be broken.
[20:13] <Jordan__> I did a bit of research and it seems this is extremely common
[20:13] <elijah> I am trying to chown  a device in /dev/to my username it goes well but when I do a ls -al it says root root and not my name, when I do a -v on it it says ownership was retained as elijah. Why doesn't it show correct ownership when ls -al
[20:13] <shahriyarguliyev> genii-around: that site does not advertise pornography
[20:13] <Jordan__> Not that I'm ripping on anybody in particular, just puzzling.
[20:14] <xangua> mmm i see no adds with adblock disabled, anyways shahriyarguliyev i see right there the 'seamoney' script
[20:14] <Jimu> I've got a package problem, but it won't let me remove the packages involved, at least not one by one. how?
[20:14] <theadmin> elijah: /dev is a special filesystem, you shouldn't mess with it manually... Only the system is honeslty supposed to touch it. Why do you want to do that?
[20:15] <xangua> just double clic, or use the ppa Pici mentioned shahriyarguliyev
[20:15] <xangua> (15:10:41) Pici: xangua: Theres a seamonkey ppa that looks like its only one revision behind here: https://launchpad.net/~joe-nationnet/+archive/seamonkey-dev
[20:15] <shahriyarguliyev> xangua: there are no adds though
[20:15] <elijah> theadmin: I am trying to get my MS natural keyboard zoom key to work per these intstructions --> http://sandilands.info/sgordon/scroll-with-microsoft-natural-ergonomic-keyboard-4000-ubuntu-linux
[20:15] <shahriyarguliyev> xangua: opening seamonkey script opens it in  gedit
[20:16] <shahriyarguliyev> xangua: http://postimage.org/image/zezkz07o1/ opened form of seamonkey script
[20:16] <xangua> shahriyarguliyev: mark it as executable then as you were told
[20:17] <shahriyarguliyev> xangua: oh noone told
[20:17] <shahriyarguliyev> how to make it executable?
[20:17] <xangua> right clic-properties
[20:18] <theadmin> xangua: It's executable by default, that script
[20:18] <genii-around> shahriyarguliyev: Yes, it does. Please note bottom right corner. http://imagebin.org/215684
[20:18] <shahriyarguliyev> i check Execute button, but auto unchecks
[20:19] <theadmin> elijah: I see -- not sure how much those instructions can be trusted... You might want to write an udev rule which will set the mode appropriately instead, dunno how though (not sure how the device identifies itself with udev)
[20:20] <shahriyarguliyev> xangua: i try to change permission but it automatically unchecks
[20:20] <elijah> theadmin: might be a bit over my skill level at the moment
[20:20] <theadmin> elijah: Shouldn't be too hard
[20:21] <elijah> theadmin: I can get evrouter seeing the keyboard but I can't get it to load my config file so I am trying to figure out the issue
[20:21] <elijah> theadmin: I don't really think it is permissions
[20:21] <theadmin> elijah: I see
[20:21] <lauratika> hi, to have certain process from sleeping at start up, i understand they arethere so is faster to run those appl but i dont use them at the mo,just browser and music player.
[20:22] <Jordan__> Ugh.. so I don't have a linux computer to use to make a working USB stick. Is there a known way to make a working one on windows?
[20:22] <lauratika> sorry i meant stopping them?
[20:22] <theadmin> Jordan__: lili and unetbootin normally work, but since those failed, try pendrivelinux's Universal USB Installer
[20:22] <Jordan__> Cool. Will do.
[20:23] <darkknight> hi
[20:23] <darkknight> what's this channel for?
[20:23] <Jordan__> Midget wrestling
[20:23] <Jordan__> And pudding.
[20:23] <DJones> !support | darkknight
[20:24] <darkknight> cool, that's great.
[20:24] <darkknight> everywhere here from the states?
[20:24] <theadmin> !ot | darkknight
[20:24] <xubuntu5> how do i change the permissions of a folder in /media ?
[20:24] <shahriyarguliyev> xangua: I cannot change any Permission, what is the matter?
[20:24] <xubuntu5> chmod doesn't seem to work
[20:24] <twig11> I need help troubleshooting a video problem after upgrading to a ATI Radeon 7000 graphics card from the onboard intel graphics on a dell Optiplex gx520. It insists on falling back to unity 2d even though it's supposed to work with 3d on ubuntu. I've googled this problem and I feel like I'm in over my head. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[20:25] <theadmin> xubuntu5: You need to use the umask option when mounting
[20:25] <xubuntu5> it is automatically mounted
[20:25] <nikin> xubuntu5: sudo chmod -R [permissions here] /media/[foldername here]
[20:25] <Jordan__> Could I just use WUBI and then take over the entire computer later?
[20:25] <Jordan__> Or does it encapsulate it in the windows install somehow
[20:25] <theadmin> xubuntu5: Edit the fstab entry then.
[20:25] <nikin> xubuntu5: you used sudo with it?
[20:25] <xubuntu5> i have used sudo chmod -R [permissions here] /media/[foldername here] but it doesn't have any effect
[20:26] <theadmin> Jordan__: Wubi installs to a file, so no, you can't remove Windows later.
[20:26] <xubuntu5> /etc/fstab ok and unmask there?
[20:26] <genii-around> Jordan__: The entire install is saved as a file in Windows, which gets loopmounted
[20:26] <Jordan__> Shoot. WUBI is a great feature though.
[20:26] <nikin> xubuntu5: what permission did you set? and who is the owner?
[20:26] <shahriyarguliyev> theadmin: I try to change permissions in right-click properties of that script to make it executable, it does not let to change anything
[20:26] <xubuntu5> the owner is me
[20:26] <theadmin> xubuntu5: The syntax will be something like "/dev/sda1 /media/blah defaults 0 0", so change to "/dev/sda1 /media/blah umask=0000,defaults 0 0"
[20:27] <xangua> shahriyarguliyev: no idea, i just downloaded it and run it http://imagebin.org/215688
[20:27] <xubuntu5> thanks theadmin i'll give that a go
[20:27] <nikin> xubuntu5: and the permissions you set?
[20:27] <xubuntu5> 755 but nothing changes when i run it i guess i have to unmask like theadmin suggested
[20:28] <theadmin> xubuntu5: It's "umask", not "unmask", don't confuse it when you write the fstab entry :P
[20:28] <xubuntu5> ahh thanks!
[20:28] <shahriyarguliyev> xangua: it does not let to change its permissions
[20:29] <theadmin> I was wondering why bash couldn't find "unmount" back when I started, heh.
[20:29] <nikin> theadmin: :)
[20:29] <theadmin> Anyway I'm off
[20:30] <shahriyarguliyev> xangua: i try to check "Allow executable as a program" it unchecks automatically
[20:30] <azertyu> hi
[20:30] <azertyu> i would like to extfro
[20:30] <azertyu> fsck on exfat partition
[20:30] <azertyu> what  i have to do?
[20:31] <Guest53256> how to make pop  ram
[20:31] <Guest53256> ?
[20:32] <xubuntu5> the admin does this look right? /dev/sdd1 "/media/My Book" umask=0000,defaults 0 0
[20:33] <nikin> azertyu: fsck.exfat ?
[20:33] <Guest53256> nand
[20:33] <Jordan__> Damn.. that didn't work either. Still hangs forever at SYSLINUX.
[20:33] <nikin> xubuntu5: theadmin is off.
[20:34] <Jordan__> I don't think the problem is getting an OK image on a stick. I think it's with whatever happens afterward ;-;
[20:34] <llutz> xubuntu5: it has to be  .... /media/My\040Book ...      space=\040
[20:35] <xubuntu5> would have never guessed that %20 for a browser maybe but \040 thanks llutz
[20:35] <nikin> xubuntu5: filesystem type?
[20:35] <xubuntu5> ntfs i think maybe fat32
[20:35] <xubuntu5> it's a 2TB external
[20:35] <terminhell> ello ello
[20:35] <sarsaeol> is there anyway to lock the local terminal when a vnc user logs in to a 12.04 desktop?
[20:35] <nikin> this is my line, for my data partition: UUID=f195b62f-424d-4e2a-a357-7e785a9bf636 /media/data ext2 defaults 0 1
[20:36] <Jordan__> So.. does anybody have suggestions? My netbook seems to refuse to use any ubuntu installer made by unetbootin lili or UUI. Always hangs at SYSLINUX
[20:36] <Jimu> A pox on you all for totally ignoring me
[20:36] <nikin> xubuntu5: i think you need to specify the filesystem for fstab
[20:36] <Jordan__> I've tried formatting it as everything, exFat, FAT32, NTFS.. couldn't get anything to work.
[20:37] <MadsRC> Would anyone in here know anything about getting a small GUI for VBoxHeadless on a Ubuntu Server?
[20:37] <terminhell> Jordan__: what ya trying to do again?
[20:37] <nikin> xubuntu5: i do not know if still ntfs-3g what one has to use... i have to admit that i didnt mount ntfs for nearly 4 years now :)
[20:38] <Jordan__> Just install ubuntu on a new netbook. It's got windows, no cd drive, and seems to be allergix to linux.
[20:38] <man> can some one tell me how to address 1 gega to my cpu
[20:38] <Jordan_U> Jordan__: I would recommend trying to use grub instead of syslinux.
[20:38] <Jordan__> Hm, how would I go about doing that? I don't have access to a linux system atm, just my windows 7 install
[20:39] <xubuntu5> heh thanks for your help nikin
[20:39] <freedomrun_> hello. does anyone here have any clue of service named "jetty" ? and as I read it is http server .. my question is; "Is that neccessary to having it running all the time on a small laptop?"
[20:39] <terminhell> Jordan__: use the buntu live disk again, and simply run grub install
[20:39] <azertyu> it says command not found for fsck.exfat nik
[20:39] <azertyu> it says command not found for fsck.exfat nikin
[20:40] <Jordan__> There is no live disk, I'm trying to install off of USB
[20:40] <terminhell> same thing...
[20:40] <Jordan__> and it never even makes it past the first screen. SYSLINUX Blah blah Dude et all... blinky cursor.
[20:40] <terminhell> AH
[20:40] <terminhell> keep trying
[20:40] <terminhell> did you use unetbootin?
[20:40] <Jordan__> Tried LiLi, Unetbootin, and UUI
[20:40] <Shojo> Jordan__: try pressing the Tab key, then typing "live"
[20:40] <Jordan__> Nothing
[20:41] <umbunduh> How to change the 3D acceleration llvmpipe for hardware acceleration?
[20:41] <juan_> freedomrun_: jetty is a small java web container used to run java apps, dont think you need to have it running all the time unless some app needs it.
[20:41] <Shojo> how did you create this USB?
[20:41] <Jordan__> That was to you btw, Shojo, didn't do anything
[20:41] <Shojo> i know
[20:41] <terminhell> to bad windows doesnt have dd, but w/e. Unetbootin can mess up time to time, try redoing it. Sometimes you may have to reboot and rety booting from the usb a few times for it to 'catch'
[20:41] <Jordan__> I used UUI for this one, I let it format my key and installed my ubuntu 12.04 ISO that I just got.
[20:41] <Jordan__> I've even tried downloading it over again, it's not a corrupt ISO
[20:41] <man> aaa7aaaa i use backtrack 4 o usb
[20:42] <Jordan__> I've tried formatting it as every different filesystem my windows 7 install can use, I've tried quick and long format.
[20:42] <Shojo> Jordan__: are you intalling in dual boot with Windows?
[20:42] <Jordan__> I mean obviously I tried FAT32 and all the different USB makers first, but then I got desperate
[20:42] <terminhell> live usb environments are sometimes glitchy, just keep trying to boot it
[20:42] <Jordan__> Well, I'm trying to overwrite the "new" windows install on my netbook
[20:42] <Jordan__> no dualbooting
[20:42] <azertyu> well this is what i got as error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1031035/ when i try to fsck.exfat
[20:43] <freedomrun_> thnx juan_
[20:43] <azertyu> what i have to do ?
[20:43] <juan_> freedomrun_: np man! :)
[20:43] <lauratika> i want to stop some process from running at start like bluetooth and other appl i dont use,how can i do this
[20:43] <azertyu> now this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1031039/
[20:43] <lilred_> hey guys, stock Ubuntu 12.04 here, YouTube videos work intermittently - as in, they stop and resume constantly, once or twice per second.
[20:43] <Shojo> Jordan__: are you on windows right now on your notebook , or using another computer?
[20:43] <terminhell> doesnt daemon tools have an option to image usb drives?
[20:44] <azertyu> anyoen ?
[20:44] <Jordan__> Using my main pc, starting in sadness at my new netbook.
[20:44] <xangua> lilred: sounds like youtube server sucks most of the time
[20:44] <Jordan__> staring*
[20:44] <Shojo> aw, lol
[20:44] <xangua> at least for me it has been like that for days
[20:44] <lilred> xangua: not a server issue, it's been like that back when I was on 11.10
[20:44] <Jordan__> I bought it to be a tiny code workhorse that I could port around, so naturally linux was my choice
[20:44] <man> there  is a tool on debian site for creating every thing on usb
[20:44] <lilred> xangua: YouTube is failing on me 100% of the time :|
[20:44] <terminhell> Jordan__: relax man, we'll figure this out
[20:44] <Agent_Orange> man, i read you every day :3
[20:44] <Jordan__> ;-;
[20:45] <Jordan__> I don't have one of those keys that puts a special partition on it either, because I've used this to install linux distros before, ubuntu included
[20:45] <Jordan_U> Jordan__: Do you have any machine that you can boot GNU/Linux from (even from a LiveCD/USB)?
[20:45] <terminhell> Jordan__: this may sound silly, but try putting the usb in another port
[20:45] <Jordan__> term: tried it. No luck, tried all four ports. hahaha
[20:46] <Shojo> Jordan__: with USB keys you need to make them bootable . if you have windows on your notebook i can help you set it up like that. You need syslinux
[20:46] <Jordan__> Hmm.. yeah I could boot off my main PC with a live key
[20:46] <terminhell> does the usb have the 'boot' flag enabled?
[20:46] <man> yooooh i have many
[20:46] <Jordan__> I dunno, do the USB installers do that automatically? I didn't know USB keys had a boot flag, or where that flag is.
[20:46] <Jordan_U> Jordan__: Then you can use that machine to install grub to the flash drive.
[20:47] <twig11> I just upgraded the integrated Intel graphics on a Dell Optiplex GX520 to an ATI Radeon 7000 card I had lying around. From what I read I should be able to get 3d graphics in ubuntu with that but it's falling back to unity2D every time. I've been searching this problem for awhile without any luck, and I could really use a helping hand on troubleshooting.
[20:47] <Shojo> Jordan__: it's just a setting
[20:47] <xangua> twig11: did you install ati drivers¿
[20:47] <man> how to address 1 gega memory to my cpu ? howw
[20:47] <twig11> xangua: I just installed fglrx
[20:48] <terminhell> but if you've properly imaged the usb with a non corrupt image you shouldnt need the boot flag in most cases. If you use something like unetbootin ive found that the boot flag usually needs to be applied
[20:48] <auronandace> twig11: 7000? that sounds a little old
[20:48] <Shojo> Jordan__: to set the boot flag you go in Wondows Command prompt and run a few commands
[20:48] <Jordan__> Ah, cool. I'll look it up and try that before I pull out any more hair
[20:48] <Jordan__> :)
[20:48] <Shojo> lol
[20:48] <Shojo> i'll pm ya
[20:49] <Jordan_U> Jordan__: Since you're getting to thhe point that you see a message from syslinux, the problem is not a missing boot flag.
[20:49] <SYSGEEK> I'm getting sick of this. Any OS that calls "Microsoft Having 90% of the Market Share" a freaking BUG is obviously a stuck-up system made with a massive ego. There's a REASON why people use Windows. And people wonder why people don't take LinSux seriously!
[20:49] <terminhell> *agrees with Jordan_U
[20:49] <Jordan__> Ah, that's a reasonable assumption.
[20:49] <Jordan_U> !ot | SYSGEEK
[20:50] <twig11> auronandace: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] [1002:5159]
[20:50] <Jordan__> At first I just thought my netbook was very slow :)
[20:50] <Jordan__> "Gee linux is taking... an hour to begin installing"
[20:50] <terminhell> when ive gotten the syslinux error, ive found that simply rebooting a few times will allow it to bootstrap properly
[20:50] <Jordan__> Hey, I'll try it
[20:50] <Jordan__> I want me some linuxy goodness
[20:51] <auronandace> twig11: oh, i was thinking really old (before amd took over ati)
[20:51] <Jordan__> Ever since I started coding on linux I can't go back to windows for it :|
[20:51] <Jordan__> Even though you can trick out cmd to be sorta close.. it just doesn't feel the same.
[20:51] <terminhell> cheers! *buys Jordan__ a beer
[20:51] <Jordan__> :]
[20:51] <Agent_Orange> Jordan__, what langs u code in
[20:51] <Jordan__> Python at the moment, just learned it. Having a blast
[20:51] <Jordan__> I think I'm going to learn either javascript or clojure next
[20:52] <Agent_Orange> lul
[20:52] <Jordan__> though pythons ease of use makes everything else look like stacking cards
[20:52] <gnomeclassic> hi
[20:52] <Agent_Orange> Jordan__, http://xkcd.com/353/
[20:52] <Jordan_U> !ot
[20:52] <Jordan__> That's exactly how I feel about python. Exactly.
[20:52] <Jordan__> That and the regular expressions comic.
[20:53] <Jordan_U> Jordan__: If you'd like to try grub ping me.
[20:53] <SYSGEEK> OK. I do need support installing Ubuntu 8.10.
[20:53] <Jordan_U> SYSGEEK: We don't support EOL releases.
[20:53] <auronandace> SYSGEEK: its eol, no longer supported
[20:53] <Jordan__> Could I use my hirens key to get GRUB on there?
[20:53] <gnomeclassic> SYSGEEK, lol
[20:53] <Agent_Orange> lol
[20:53] <Jordan_U> Jordan__: No.
[20:53] <SYSGEEK> Why not? Old systems are boss!
[20:54] <Jordan_U> SYSGEEK: Try Lubuntu for older systems.
[20:54] <gnomeclassic> or puppy linux
[20:54] <gnomeclassic> xD
[20:54] <D[4]ni> eww, this is getting annoying
[20:54] <D[4]ni> i put 3 commands into my startup programs, and after i close the window, at least one of them is gone
[20:54] <gnomeclassic> lenovo supports ubuntu?
[20:55] <lenovo> yes
[20:55] <D[4]ni> close and re-open, of course
[20:55] <gnomeclassic> nice
[20:55] <lenovo> not yet version ed
[20:55] <SYSGEEK> Should I boot into Recovery Console after I format my HD with NTFS or before it parses the setup INI?
[20:56] <LjL> SYSGEEK: this is Ubuntu support. give this stuff a break.
[20:56] <D[4]ni> why can't i properly add startup commands without them just disappearing?
[20:56] <rsumi> has anyone got wine working successfully on ubuntu 12.04 64bit? last i checked there were still problems with getting libraries working
[20:56] <lenovo> i needed chinese simplified but somewhere complicated also kformula download got no to use
[20:57] <SYSGEEK> Is Terminal similar to DOS? Does CHKDSK work?
[20:57] <terminhell> D[4]ni: priveledges?
[20:57] <LjL> !cli > SYSGEEK
[20:57] <jennie> Is there any button /shortcut in ubuntu 1204 to 'show desktop' like there is one in windows ?
[20:57] <auronandace> !fsck | SYSGEEK
[20:57] <D[4]ni> terminhell: nah, let me explain
[20:57] <xangua> jennie: Control+Windows+D
[20:58] <D[4]ni> so i add 3 commands to the startup programs list, close the window, and re-open it
[20:58] <jennie> thanks a lot xangua
[20:58] <xangua> jennie: you can see the desktop shorcuts by keeping the Windows/Super key pressed
[20:58] <D[4]ni> one (just one!) of them is gone
[20:58] <auronandace> rsumi: that's rather generic, wine works fine for me
[20:58] <gnomeclassic> wow xangua is here
[20:58] <D[4]ni> so i re-add it, close the window, and re-open it
[20:58] <D[4]ni> another one is gone now.
[20:58] <gnomeclassic> hi xangua xD
[20:58] <jennie> many many thanks
[20:58] <gnomeclassic> i'm gosset
[20:58] <SYSGEEK> Could I set up an OS/2 Warp 3 dual-boot config with it?
[20:59] <terminhell> D[4]ni: Um, hmmm
[21:00] <D[4]ni> possible problem: the commands all start the same. well, they are all the same executable, different parameters.
[21:00] <terminhell> D[4]ni: what are you trying to put in startup?
[21:00] <lenovo> √∫2 not kformula
[21:01] <D[4]ni> /usr/bin/udisks --mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/[three different uuids here]
[21:02] <hunter_> nnn
[21:03] <terminhell> D[4]ni: why not just bash script it to have them all done in a single script? then you'd only have 1 command to run in startup?
[21:03] <D[4]ni> well, makes sense
[21:04] <terminhell> brb
[21:05] <lenovo> √2√310δ
[21:05] <enveezee> does the wubi thing just install onto the windows NTFS partition?
[21:05] <zykotick9> enveezee: yes
[21:06] <auronandace> enveezee: essentially yes
[21:06] <damms005> hello roomie. cprofitt?
[21:06] <damms005> that guy's cool and kind
[21:08] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: Interesting. Can you boot from the CD on that machine while staying on IRC from another?
[21:08] <damms005> well, a nice guy (cprofitt actually) told me that the integer arguement to -size test for the "find" command is in blocks. Pls how can I know the exact block that represent a byte or kb
[21:08] <t0ntin> JORDAN_u, no, i only have this comp.
[21:09] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: OK. Can you boot from a LiveCD/USB and run boot info script?
[21:09] <Urchin> can I stop pulse from hogging priority? it nices itself to -11
[21:09] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | t0ntin
[21:09] <lenovo> mmm
[21:10] <mahamoti> newb question: suppose i download a package like 'sudo apt-get install libicu-dev'.  how can I know what the name of the library is to use with g++ ?
[21:10] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: If you don't want to burn another CD to do that you can use the handy loop booting option I put on the CD instead (you'll just need to create a directory C:\boot-isos\ in Windows and copy an Ubuntu iso there.
[21:11] <t0ntin> jordan_u, i have a copy of ubuntu on a DVD. Is that a liveCD?
[21:11] <t0ntin> it's something i downloaded from the same page where the Wubi is offered
[21:12] <ratcheer> t0ntin: Probably, but not necessarily.
[21:12] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: That is a LiveCD, let me make sure that it will work for this purpose though (specifically I need to check that the Ubuntu devs included a loopback.cfg in their DVD isos the same way they do for their CD isos).
[21:12] <damms005> Pls how can I know the exact block that represent a byte or kb for the -size in 'find' command
[21:12] <t0ntin> ok
[21:12] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: Ubuntu 12.04?
[21:12] <t0ntin> yes
[21:12] <lilred> Anyone else have issues with youtube video playback? Ubuntu 12.04, it skips and skitters
[21:14] <damms005> Pls how can I know the exact block to represent 10kb for the -size in 'find' command
[21:15] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: Yes, the 12.04 DVD image should work.
[21:15] <t0ntin> Jordan_U, OK, so just follow the instructions in the boot info script page?
[21:16] <jennie> ok I tried running this song in background with '&' but got an error in terminalhttp://pastie.org/4052765
[21:16] <andreluiz> is there a way to transfer files from ubuntu to an iPad? either by wifi or usb cable?
[21:16] <damms005> I guess noone's got a clue about my quest
[21:17] <auronandace> damms005: you could also try in ##linux
[21:17] <blahti> damms005; i've been looking at your question, not quite sure what you're trying to do
[21:17] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: Yes.
[21:17] <t0ntin> Jordan_u, i'll give it a try, thanks.
[21:17] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: You're welcome.
[21:18] <olskolirc> damms005, df -H
[21:18] <olskolirc> damms005, if you want to see the blocks, just df
[21:19] <genii-around> damms005: It's in 512 byte blocks by default, unless you put a c after ( which means use bytes ). So 20 should be 10k
[21:21] <blahti> quick gcc question.. running ubuntu 12.04 LTS, gcc 4.6.3, everything current...  trying to compile a math program, but "gcc -o thing -lm thing.c" still throws errors like "undefined reference to `sinh'"... am i missing something obvious?
[21:21] <auronandace> SYSGEEK seems rather determined
[21:21] <trism> blahti: gcc -o thing thing.c -lm
[21:22] <blahti> trism; i have -lm  already, order doesn't matter does it?
[21:22] <trism> blahti: yes, it does
[21:22] <jennie> SYSGEEK hacker ?
[21:22] <jennie> what he is doing ? flooding ?
[21:23] <damms005> genii-around: you sound to oppose olskolirc, but it really looks like it is two times ( So 20 should be 10k )
[21:23] <mahamoti> when install a new library like libicu-dev, how does one generally go about finding out what the name of the library to link with in g++ is, when the documentation of that library doesn't bother to mention?
[21:23] <blahti> trism; gaaaaah... look at that, it does.  :)  thanks a ton.
[21:24] <jennie> jrib thanks, may I know what he was doing ?
[21:24] <jrib> jennie: I have no idea
[21:24] <ludo_> slt
[21:25] <damms005> olskolirc: when I df, I saw 1kb-blocks; but when I test with find command; it seems a block is 2kb (like genii-around said, but his concept of 512, I dont understand)
[21:26] <olskolirc> jrib gimme op
[21:26] <jrib> olskolirc: no?
[21:28] <Pinkamena_D> hello, i am having a problem with a network bridge. I have it configured on my web server to also distribute the internet connection to other ethernet ports. All of the devices behind it can access both the server and the internet, but the server itself can not connect.
[21:28] <Pinkamena_D> if anyone wants to take a crack ill post the interfaces file
[21:29] <hpuxsux> hello, is it normal to receive " SIOCGMIIREG on eth0 failed: Input/output " when using mii-tool ?
[21:29] <guntbert> hpuxsux: did you use sudo?
[21:29] <hpuxsux> guntbert: yes
[21:30] <william12> hello everyone
[21:30] <guntbert> hpuxsux: next idea: are you on  wifi?
[21:31] <hpuxsux> guntbert: nope using eth0 which is the only NIC on the pc
[21:31] <guntbert> hpuxsux: I am just guessing :)
[21:31] <hpuxsux> guntbert: this is my issue which I'm trying to fix http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12010422#post12010422
[21:32] <Plizzo> Hi, I installed Ubuntu Server 11.10 64-bit a couple of months back, and I've been getting some help from people here to set things up
[21:32] <Plizzo> Although, I seem to have downgraded my kernel to a generic 32-bit one, and now I can't manage to install the 64-bit linux-image-server one. It's installed and all, but I can't choose it as my default kernel anywhere
[21:33] <guntbert> hpuxsux: that doesn't tell *me* anything - sorry
[21:34] <damms005> I heard dual booting is not good for sys motherboard. What's your side on this geeks?
[21:34] <genii-around> Plizzo: What is the result of: apt-cache policy linux-image-$( uname -r)
[21:35] <reisio> damms005: powering up & down isn't good for computers in general
[21:35] <Plizzo> genii-around: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1031107/
[21:35] <Plizzo> That's what I get
[21:35] <damms005> reisio: do you mean shutting down and booting-up?
[21:36] <InferiorHuman> can someone help me get the automated SSH login working, I have never been able to get it to work through putty on windows to my ubuntu system. Please don't point me to a guide and send me on my way tried it before.
[21:36] <reisio> damms005: yes, but also varying power or temperature in any fashion
[21:36] <genii-around> Plizzo: Yes, this is odd if you originally installed a 64 bit kernel.
[21:36] <reisio> electronics like things to always be the same
[21:37] <Plizzo> genii-around: I was so damn sure that I installed a 64-bit system, and if I am wrong and accidentally installed a 32-bit one I'd be very much annoyed with myself
[21:37] <docmur> I have KVM setup on a server 192.168.0.151 and there 3 VM's on it.  all using the IP 192.168.122.*,  How can I make the entire network aware for the virtual machines, no other machines on the networking can ping the VM's on the network
[21:37] <Plizzo> genii-around: Would my server recognize 8GB of ram if it was 32-bit?
[21:37] <damms005> reisio: I want to migrate my wubi but my hard disk is all messed up. I would have just obliterated windows
[21:37] <reisio> damms005: would have?
[21:38] <Plizzo> genii-around: MemTotal:        8177912 kB
[21:38] <damms005> reisio: yeah. pretty messed up partitions on my hardisk. wubi migrate will always complain about it
[21:38] <william12> 32bit will not recognize  8gb of ram, it only will see 4gb
[21:39] <reisio> damms005: so... what's the problem?
[21:39] <genii-around> Plizzo: What is the result of: sudo lshw -C system| grep width
[21:39] <damms005> reisio: do you mind if i send you gparted screenshot of my disk?
[21:39] <Plizzo> genii-around: width: 32 bits
[21:39] <zykotick9> docmur: you might want to have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking
[21:39] <reisio> damms005: no, but what for?
[21:39] <Plizzo> I guess I was wrong, that's incredibly stupid of me :P
[21:39] <genii-around> Plizzo: That's what the Physical Address Extensions kernel does, lets 32 bit cpu address more than about 3.2Gb of ram
[21:40] <cromag> hi, i want to compile a program with socks5 support, and i think i miss some libs or a package for that. I see that SOCKS4 is a packege, but no socks5 - any ideas ? :)
[21:40] <Plizzo> genii-around: I've been seriously wondering why I have no 64-bit things running :/
[21:40] <Plizzo> genii-around: Are there some issues with 32-bit systems and files over 2GB?
[21:40] <Plizzo> genii-around: My rTorrent is reporting files larger than 2GB as 2GB, but everything works just fine
[21:41] <Plizzo> genii-around: It's just very annoying, because I can never see the real filesize there
[21:41] <Plizzo> genii-around: Sorry, not rTorrent, avalanche - the web gui
[21:42] <genii-around> Plizzo: Sounds like something specific to rTorrent
[21:42] <damms005> reisio: you will laugh at the status of my disk. I was dump then and toiling fdisk with my disk.(I am presently low on battery charge and this might be my last post now. Pls I will be glad if you can help me through my mail: damms005@gmail.com))
[21:42] <reisio> damms005: help you with what?
[21:42] <Plizzo> genii-around: In rTorrent they display fine, but in the web UI they do not
[21:43] <Jordan_U> Plizzo: No, the only time when 32 bit vs 64 bit comes into play with file sizes is when files are mmap'd, and applications will very rarely try to mmap a file over 3 GiB.
[21:43] <Plizzo> genii-around: I helped a friend of mine set up an exact copy of my rTorrent setup, but he does have a 64-bit system
[21:43] <Plizzo> Jordan_U: Alright, thank you :)
[21:43] <Jordan_U> Plizzo: You're welcome :)
[21:43] <genii-around> Plizzo: Haven't dealt with rTorrent before. But i would suspect something like the maximum size of the variable they are using to display the filesize is set too low somehow
[21:44] <Plizzo> genii-around: It seems that my xmlrpc version is low :/
[21:45] <Plizzo> Thanks for your help
[21:47] <zykotick9> genii-around: if you're ever looking for a terminal-based torrent client - rtorrent is excellent
[21:47] <aleminio> why when i'm closing my laptop's display, it turns the display off as usual, but when i open it in ubuntu, the screen stays black
[21:48] <hippiehacker> Is there anything newer than https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch for creating 12.04 iso's from scratch? Is it still pretty much the same process?
[21:52] <fizy[laptop]> Jordan_U: you sir, are a god. your cookies are on their way
[21:58] <TimRiker> gnome-fallback freaked out on me, now running unity (ugh!) and gnome-terminal will not open. the menu shows up, and the app keeps running, but the actual terminal is not there. thoughts?
[21:58] <TimRiker> xterm works, but gnome-terminal does not.
[22:04] <t0ntin> jordan_u, I have the results of that script.
[22:05] <Jordan__> So.. I've tried LiLi, unetbootin, UUI, and making my own syslinux key by hand. None will get past the SYSLINUX Blah blah Et all blinky cursor screen.
[22:05] <Jordan__> What other options do I have besides being stuck on windows 7 starter edition forever?
[22:13] <mongy> .
[22:15] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | t0ntin
[22:17] <t0ntin> jordan_u, thanks. Here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1031187/
[22:18] <TimRiker> sry, unity crashed again... gnome-terminal does not display. menu is there. thoughts?
[22:20] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: Interesting that boot info script didn't find the Wubi grub.cfg.
[22:20] <terminhell> still having issues Jordan_U
[22:20] <Jordan__> Hey guys.. I'm still losing my mind trying to install ubuntu.  I got to the screen that says SYSLINUX 4.05 EDD 2011-12-09 Copyright (C) 1993-2011 H. Peter Anvin et all about a million times a million different ways.
[22:21] <t0ntin> Jordan_u, you think if I install ubuntu from the DVD, it will work?
[22:21] <Jordan__> And yet.. never more.
[22:21] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: Yes, but you can't install from the DVD image stored on your Windows partition because that needs to be unmounted during install.
[22:22] <terminhell> Jordan__: Reimage the usb, then force the boot sequence to use usb
[22:22] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: Do you have any files that you need from the Wubi install?
[22:22] <Jordan_U> Jordan__: Again, ping me if you want to try grub.
[22:22] <t0ntin> jordan_u, no, i just want to be able to use ubuntu again, alongside windows.
[22:23] <InferiorHuman> can someone help me get the automated SSH login working, I have never been able to get it to work through putty on windows to my ubuntu system. Please don't point me to a guide and send me on my way tried it before.
[22:23] <greyfox> InferiorHuman: host keys or user keys?
[22:23] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: Then doing a normal install of Ubuntu is definitely the way to go.
[22:23] <InferiorHuman> whatever it takes to be able to login without a password
[22:24] <t0ntin> ok, i'll try that. :)
[22:24] <greyfox> InferiorHuman: Did you create key for user?
[22:24] <greyfox> ssh-keygen?
[22:24] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: You'll need to boot from a different drive than you're installing to though.
[22:25] <InferiorHuman> greyfox, I did ssh-keygen -t dsa
[22:25] <t0ntin> jordan_u, how do i do that?
[22:25] <greyfox> InferiorHuman: Did you download ~/.ssh/id-dsa?
[22:25] <greyfox> or id-sth
[22:25] <InferiorHuman> no
[22:26] <fizyplankton> Jordan_U: its me, fizy[laptop]. it works. thank you so much. i was about to grab my drive and shove it thru my screen
[22:26] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: Burn the Ubuntu iso to a DVD or move the iso to a USB drive instead of your Windows partition.
[22:26] <Jordan_U> fizyplankton: You're welcome :)
[22:26] <t0ntin> Jordan_u, yes, I have it in a DVD
[22:27] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: Then just boot from that DVD and install normally.
[22:27] <InferiorHuman> greyfox, so what do I do after I make the .pub file ?
[22:27] <t0ntin> ok, i'll try it.
[22:28] <greyfox> InferiorHuman: oh .. wait .. did you created pub key and ppk in puttygen-sth ?
[22:28] <InferiorHuman> greyfox, no I need to find out how to make .pub work for putty?
[22:29] <greyfox> InferiorHuman: so you have keys from puttygen?
[22:30] <InferiorHuman> greyfox, should i make rsa or dsa key for putty gen ?
[22:31] <greyfox> and did you put copy sth.pub to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2
[22:32] <InferiorHuman> I have a ~/.ssh_authorized_keys file
[22:32] <greyfox> btw does anyone has problem with usb dongle 3g with autorefresh facebook?
[22:32] <greyfox> InferiorHuman: ~/.ssh/
[22:33] <greyfox> mkdir ~/.ssh
[22:33] <InferiorHuman> so copy the private / public keys I have there
[22:33] <InferiorHuman> ?
[22:33] <InferiorHuman> from putty gen on windows?
[22:33] <Jordan_U> Jordan__: It sounds like we'll be working from another computer booted via LiveUSB. Do you have more than one USB drive?
[22:33] <greyfox> InferiorHuman: copy public key to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2
[22:33] <InferiorHuman> ok
[22:34] <econdudeawesome> if I'm running a java program that might be causing a hardware conflict, how do I log this info to a desktop txt file? $java -jar <command> | then what?
[22:34] <InferiorHuman> ok done.
[22:34] <Jordan__> Jordan_U: Sadly no I don't
[22:34] <greyfox> InferiorHuman: try now
[22:34] <reisio> econdudeawesome: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redirection_%28computing%29#Redirecting_to_and_from_the_standard_file_handles
[22:35] <Jordan_U> Jordan__: That's OK, that just means that if we fail the first time you'll have to re-run unetbootin (or whatever utility) to get back to a working Ubuntu environment agian.
[22:35] <econdudeawesome> reisio: I'm familiar with this--will it also execute the java file?
[22:35] <InferiorHuman> ok it still asks me for password...
[22:35] <LittleBallOfHate> econdudeawesome: >
[22:35] <econdudeawesome> ok
[22:35] <Jordan__> Jordan_U: Eh, no big deal
[22:35] <LittleBallOfHate> econdudeawesome: > outputfile.txt
[22:35] <terminhell> econdudeawesome: java -flags | > log.txt
[22:35] <greyfox> InferiorHuman: did you set private key in connection setting?
[22:35] <Jordan__> I just wanna go code in my backyard on my new netbook rather than in my code dungeon all day :|
[22:35] <LittleBallOfHate> terminhell: you don't need a pipe
[22:36] <InferiorHuman> greyfox, yea it says it refused it
[22:36] <reisio> econdudeawesome: yup
[22:36] <terminhell> LittleBallOfHate: oh, but i do :p
[22:36] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[22:36] <mentalDisorder> connect #ubuntu
[22:36] <mentalDisorder> hi
[22:37] <Jordan_U> Jordan__: Is your USB drive big enough to hold both the unextracted Ubuntu .iso file and the extracted (by unetbootin) version at the same time?
[22:37] <mentalDisorder> hey, I've got problem with sound, anybody help me  ? : )
[22:37] <Jordan__> Yeah, it's an 8gig
[22:37] <greyfox> InferiorHuman: did you put public key from that key you created in puttygen ?
[22:38] <InferiorHuman> greyfox, to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2
[22:38] <mentalDisorder> Does anybody know sth about alsamixer ?
[22:38] <Jordan_U> Jordan__: OK. Create a directory called "boot-isos" on the USB drive and copy the Ubuntu iso file into that directory (as a file, do not extract it).
[22:39] <greyfox> hm so if ssh refuse this key
[22:39] <reisio> mentalDisorder: I know it's a compound word made up of 'alsa' and 'mixer'
[22:39] <Jordan_U> Jordan__: Then boot from the USB drive and pastebin the output of "mount" and "grub-install --version".
[22:39] <InferiorHuman> greyfox, I generated new pair of keys and copied pub to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2
[22:39] <InferiorHuman> it still doesn't work
[22:39] <mentalDisorder> reisio: great : )  now  when i try to execute "amixer sset Master toogle"
[22:40] <Jordan__> Jordan_U: Where would I enter mount or grub install? I never have the option to do anything
[22:40] <escott> InferiorHuman, what is the output of ssh -vvv user@host
[22:40] <mentalDisorder> it turns out the ubuntu driver
[22:40] <greyfox> InferiorHuman: maybe it's turned off in sshd
[22:40] <Jordan__> Jordan_U: It immediately freezes at that syslinux screen. I cannot input anything
[22:40] <mentalDisorder> you know the speaker icon in the toolbar
[22:40] <reisio> mentalDisorder: yup
[22:40] <wafialmasry> السلام عليكم
[22:40] <mentalDisorder> but when I do it again it doesn't turn on again
[22:40] <Jordan_U> Jordan__: This is all instructions for you to follow on another machine, to make a bootable USB drive using grub.
[22:41] <InferiorHuman> escott, http://pastebin.com/cmHm475M
[22:41] <mentalDisorder> I can see that it works in amixer, because Master device is on and off when I execute this command twice
[22:41] <mentalDisorder> but ubuntu speaker icon is still off
[22:41] <Jordan__> Ah, alrighty.
[22:42] <reisio> wafialmasry: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/locallanguage#arabic
[22:42] <escott> InferiorHuman, debug3: Incorrect RSA1 identifier  debug3: Could not load "/home/x/.ssh/id_rsa" as a RSA1 public key
[22:42] <escott> InferiorHuman, how did you generate this key?
[22:42] <InferiorHuman> escott, putty gen
[22:42] <reisio> mentalDisorder: right, because Ubuntu uses pulseaudio on top of ALSA
[22:42] <reisio> mentalDisorder: you'll have to open up alsamixer and unmute more than just Master
[22:42] <reisio> mentalDisorder: and use something else in the future
[22:42] <mentalDisorder> ok I see
[22:43] <juanacatlan> #feodor pene
[22:43] <mentalDisorder> I'm not Arabian, btw ; )
[22:43] <juanacatlan> #feodor
[22:43] <reisio> mentalDisorder: did someone say you were?
[22:44] <Pinkamena_D> has anyone used a network bridge in ubuntu server
[22:44] <InferiorHuman> escott, I have no idea what I am doing here
[22:44] <escott> InferiorHuman, it is certainly sending id_rsa. so either the auth keys file on the remote host does not contain the pub key, or auth keys is disabled on the remote or something about putty-gen is incompatible
[22:45] <mentalDisorder> what did you mean by saying that I must unmute more than Master ?
[22:45] <InferiorHuman> escott, it has an option to make an OpenSSH public key does that help some how?
[22:45] <mentalDisorder> because I can't unmute anything else ; )
[22:45] <mentalDisorder> since everything else is just fine
[22:45] <reisio> mentalDisorder: it isn't though :)
[22:45] <reisio> mentalDisorder: you muted more than Master
[22:46] <cleaninstall> i always go to terminal and use alsamixer to find out what is realy going on with the sound device
[22:46] <mentalDisorder> it seems like it, yes
[22:46] <escott> InferiorHuman, can you post the public key here (not the private just the public)
[22:46] <reisio> well I just said you did, twice
[22:46] <reisio> seeming doesn't factor into it :p
[22:46] <mentalDisorder> the question is how can I unmute in alsamixer what I can't see
[22:46] <escott> InferiorHuman, and does the first line of the private key begin "-----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY-----"
[22:47] <reisio> mentalDisorder: what you can't see?
[22:47] <InferiorHuman> escott, http://pastebin.com/fYavqRKN
[22:47] <mentalDisorder> when I open alsamixer I can see 8 different devices
[22:47] <mentalDisorder> and they are working
[22:47] <mentalDisorder> I can hear sound : )
[22:47] <InferiorHuman> escott, no it does not
[22:48] <escott> InferiorHuman, or ---BEGIN DSA PRIVATE KEY----
[22:48] <reisio> mentalDisorder: well something is still muted
[22:48] <InferiorHuman> escott, no
[22:48] <reisio> mentalDisorder: try using the left/right arrow keys, or hitting TAB
[22:48] <InferiorHuman> escott, how do I make my private key on linux?
[22:48] <InferiorHuman> escott, so I can import it in to putty gen
[22:49] <escott> InferiorHuman, in that case your private key is not ascii armored. Ascii armored is the preferred format for use on linux by linux command line ssh. putty on windows may use its own format so the fact that its not ascii armored doesn't necessarily mean anything
[22:49] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: use puttygen on the windows box to gen and save keys. make sure to export your public key, find public key and copy contents to .ssh/authorized_keys on remote server. fire up putty, config to use key. login
[22:49] <Mr_Rndm> sup everybody
[22:49] <escott> InferiorHuman, ssh-keygen is the linux tool to generate keys
[22:50] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, done that doesn't work
[22:50] <sardinha> ola
[22:50] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: you problebly aren't leaving your keys in the default palce on windows, or you're not pasting the right format key
[22:51] <InferiorHuman> see idk what that means
[22:52] <ceege> just make sure you use the *ppk file when you set up the connection, or use putty-agent and add the ppk key to the agent
[22:52] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: puttygen has little spot in the window when you create your key that says copy and paste this to the linux box into .ssh/authorized_keys
[22:52] <feodor> #juanacatlan
[22:52] <InferiorHuman> if i use ssh-keygen on linux is id_rsa my private key and id_rsa.pub is my public?
[22:52] <feodor> #juanacatlan hola
[22:53] <ceege> and are you adding the contents of the ppk file to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the other side? and setting the right permissions on those files?
[22:53] <LittleBallOfHate> the .ppk file is the private key
[22:53] <LittleBallOfHate> wouldn't work if he pasted that
[22:54] <escott> InferiorHuman, yes if you use ssh-keygen on linux id_rsa is the private and id_rsa.pub is the public. you might try "cat id_rsa.pub >> authorized_keys" and then "ssh localhost" just to see if authkeys is working linux->linux which might isolate if there is an issue using putty
[22:55] <InferiorHuman> escott, ok I did that ssh localhost still asked me for a pass...
[22:55] <escott> InferiorHuman, how about ls -l ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[22:55] <LittleBallOfHate> escott: perms on .ssh maybe?
[22:56] <InferiorHuman> -rw------- 1 x x 389 Jun  8 18:54 /home/x/.ssh/authorized_keys
[22:56] <SetiAmon> hey 12.04 I have a weird situation.I load up a bunch of wallpaper on background settings.and select my wallpaper,then when i return back to that all the Non-Default wallpapers i loaded up are there! I have to load them up every single time which is annoying.Anyone got a solution to this?
[22:56] <escott> InferiorHuman, and ls -ld ~/.ssh (i doubt that could be wrong in any way)
[22:56] <mentalDisorder> reisio: you're kinda genius
[22:57] <InferiorHuman> drwx------ 2 x x 4096 Jun  8 18:34 /home/x/.ssh
[22:57] <InferiorHuman> why is this so hard :-*
[22:57] <reisio> mentalDisorder: :p
[22:57] <InferiorHuman> :-(
[22:57] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: and you did sudo apt-get install openssh-server?
[22:57] <InferiorHuman> yea its running
[22:57] <InferiorHuman> i can log in with p/w fine
[22:57] <InferiorHuman> i can never get this to work
[22:58] <InferiorHuman> NEVERMIND.
[22:58] <InferiorHuman> it just worked ;-)
[22:58] <escott> InferiorHuman, grep PubkeyAuthentication /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[22:58] <eagle_eye> !permissions
[22:58] <InferiorHuman> i imported the private key from OpenSSH into putty gen and saved it as a .ppk for putty.
[22:58] <InferiorHuman> and copied the id_rsa.pub or whatever to ~/.ssh_authorized_keys
[22:58] <InferiorHuman> and it works now thanks escott LittleBallOfHate
[22:59] <reisio> mentalDisorder: what does this say?: for i in `dpkg -L pulseaudio`; do grep -Hil 'switch = mute' "$i"; done
[22:59] <wolfbyte> Hi, does anyone know how I can redirect espeak (text-to-speech) output to my mic input ?
[22:59] <TheGodCock> whats up everybody
[22:59] <reisio> TheGodCock: suppah
[23:00] <TheGodCock> so im just gonna assume that everyone in here uses ubuntu
[23:00] <TheGodCock> lol
[23:00] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: that works too
[23:00] <mentalDisorder> it gives me about 20 *.conf files
[23:00] <reisio> TheGodCock: y'know what they say about assumptions :p
[23:00] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: kinda the backwards way of doing it
[23:01] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, im ok with that if saving these 2 keys means I never have to do it again :-)
[23:01] <InferiorHuman> or atleast I know how now
[23:01] <TheGodCock> something about asses
[23:01] <TheGodCock> definitely some ass in assumption
[23:01] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: yeah, make sure you take care of those keys. anybody can get into the linux box with no password using them. as long as you don't have a pass on the keys.
[23:02] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, from the internet or just my local network?
[23:02] <escott> InferiorHuman, anywhere unless you configure otherwise
[23:02] <n1ckn4me09876543> Help!!!! I have this file on my home folder:  .goutputstream-ABCXYZ   I've search google and it seems this is a mystery.
[23:02] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: if you allow it into the box. and by default there's no firewall on, so if it's directly internet exposed then yeah.
[23:02] <mentalDisorder> thanks, thank you very much, bye
[23:03] <InferiorHuman> Oh i'm behind two routers :-) one from my ISP and one running DD-WRT with iptables is that good enough?
[23:03] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: quite
[23:03] <InferiorHuman> im not going to let anyone get these keys anyway
[23:03] <escott> InferiorHuman, http://blog.vigilcode.com/2011/11/mastering-ssh-keys/
[23:03] <escott> InferiorHuman, if you want to block subnets you can see that in the above posting
[23:05] <InferiorHuman> escott, so I add something like this to my authorized keys file on linux? from="10.20.30.*,172.16.31.*,192.168.1.*"
[23:05] <InferiorHuman> with only my local IP range?
[23:05] <falstaph> problem getting broadcom wifi to run with ubuntu 12.04  I have the drivers but how do install them?
[23:05] <escott> InferiorHuman, yes
[23:05] <InferiorHuman> escott, so from="10.10.10.*"
[23:05] <InferiorHuman> ?
[23:05] <escott> InferiorHuman, you can do lots of fun stuff with auth keys like allow ssh access with an authkey but only for a specific application
[23:06] <escott> InferiorHuman, if that is your subnet yes
[23:06] <InferiorHuman> by subnet you mean the ip's of my local stuff?
[23:06] <InferiorHuman> yea my fios modem is 10.10.10.1 my dd-wrt router in switch mode is 10.10.10.2 and so on
[23:07] <asus1025c> does anyone here own an Atom N2600 or N2800 based netbook and using its hdmi port under gnu/linux?
[23:07] <LordDeath> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTExNjQ <-- is this performance difference caused by GCC?
[23:08] <TheGodCock> i have a acer one
[23:08] <falstaph> setting wifi I have the drivers how do I install them
[23:08] <t0ntin> Jordan_U, i'm back. Could you tell me what I'm supposed to choose here to install ubuntu alongside windows? https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/5d-YYHFK9e8Ph2v3reZTvdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
[23:08] <TheGodCock> atom n270 i think
[23:08] <escott> InferiorHuman, yes. you may also want to disable password login, so that nobody tries to brute force the password
[23:09] <InferiorHuman> escott, hrm. this is just my personal storage server / hooked up to my amplifier
[23:09] <Jordan_U> t0ntin: Jordan__: I'm not going to be availabe for about an hour.
[23:09] <InferiorHuman> idk if thats an issue of anyone brute forcing
[23:09] <InferiorHuman> nothing worth having ;-)
[23:09] <t0ntin> jordan_u, ok, thanks
[23:09] <escott> InferiorHuman, but if you dont have port forwarding from the modem/router to the server it doesnt really matter because they cant open the port
[23:10] <InferiorHuman> escott, I do have port-forwrding but not for the ssh port is this ok?
[23:10] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: yes
[23:10] <Relondo> Does Ubuntu have a function that warns you when your hardware is overheating, like Mac and Windows?
[23:10] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin, you can just do automatic install instead of doing it manually
[23:10] <InferiorHuman> looks like im good to go i added the subnet restriction to the public key file.
[23:10] <escott> InferiorHuman, then nobody from the wider internet can reach your ssh server
[23:10] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: that's why I said you were good before.
[23:10] <escott> InferiorHuman, so the subnet restriction doesnt really matter
[23:10] <InferiorHuman> thats ok i'll let it stand anyway
[23:10] <InferiorHuman> since i have no need to login to my box from the 'net anyway
[23:11] <InferiorHuman> its a good idea as a backup pla
[23:11] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: if you dont have any files in sda5  and sda4  just merge it to your sda2,
[23:11] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: I use my box as a nas and router
[23:11] <escott> InferiorHuman, although if they switch you ipv6 then you might not have a NAT and its back to being useful
[23:11] <t0ntin> n1ckn4me09876543, how do i do that?
[23:11] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: then go back and do automatic, so you odnt have to pick a partition, the installer will do that for you
[23:11] <falstaph> I saw an applet that would monitor the heat sensors and warn of overheating.
[23:11] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: get rid of that dd-wrt box and use the ubuntu box
[23:11] <InferiorHuman> all I do is folding @ home etc with my linux machine
[23:11] <InferiorHuman> usually
[23:11] <Chuck_Norris> aloha all :D
[23:12] <Bulletrulz> help
[23:12] <t0ntin> n1ckn4me09876543, I don't remember seeing automatic anywhere
[23:12] <Chuck_Norris> *sounds of wind*
[23:12] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: do you have any files in sda5  and sda4 ?
[23:12] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, my dd-wrt is an N router it provides my wifi with 150 mw of power ;-)
[23:12] <Bulletrulz> how to install ubuntu 10.04 32 bit with wubi
[23:12] <InferiorHuman> very strong signal.
[23:12] <Relondo> Also, can anyone recommend AV software for Ubuntu? I mean, I know Linux doesn't have much of that, but I figure better safe than sorry.
[23:12] <Relondo> *much need of that
[23:12] <t0ntin> n1ckn4me09876543, i actually don't remember if i have files in those. I know one or two are used by Dell somehow
[23:12] <Chuck_Norris> Relondo: Pinguins Pill
[23:12] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: I use a dd-wrt box in wap mode, no routing, just an access point and switch.
[23:12] <ceege> hdparm can get hard drives temps from some hard drives, Relondo
[23:12] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: before you get to that window, you should see a few options like Install Ubuntu Alongside windows,  and other stuff
[23:13] <Chuck_Norris> Relondo: http://penguinpills.sourceforge.net/
[23:13] <Pinkamena_D> hello, i am trying to find a way to make my network bridge work correctly at startup
[23:13] <boldfilter> When will we get native mtp support
[23:13] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: you might have click advance options or something where you edit partition manually
[23:13] <Relondo> Ceege: So there's nothing built-in, then?
[23:13] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, how do you put it in wap mode? I have my isp modem in a lan port and all my computers in a lan port DHCP from modem to get IP's so i'm not double nat for gaming.
[23:13] <eagle_eye> Relondo: you don't need an AV for Ubuntu
[23:14] <Relondo> Chuck_Norris: Thanks, I'll give it a look.
[23:14] <t0ntin> n1ckn4me09876543, It asked me if I wanted to connect to the internet, and then something else that I can't remember, and then it showed me that partition screen
[23:14] <Relondo> eagle_eye: I just like to be careful.
[23:14] <jrdn> Relondo, clamav
[23:14] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: my isp's router lets me assign my public ip to the linux box
[23:14] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, I have the WAN turned off on the dd-wrt also
[23:14] <Pinkamena_D> i have two internet modems , one goes direct to server for torrents or large downloads, the other goes to a network bridge on the server. something is wrong with ubuntus "primary interface".
[23:14] <Bulletrulz> but i t wont install with the wubi it keeps trying to download 64 bit
[23:14] <Relondo> jrdn: Thanks, I'll look at that, too.
[23:14] <Chuck_Norris> oh! sry, penguin pills is usefull in case you wanna scan flash drives or external disk or windows partitions
[23:14] <Bulletrulz> HELP
[23:14] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, what feature is that called?
[23:15] <boldfilter> Native mtp support?
[23:15] <Chuck_Norris> is not for real time
[23:15] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: bridge mode maybe?
[23:15] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: on the isp router
[23:15] <Pinkamena_D> i can get the bridged connection to connect to the internet by 1)unplugging other connection 2) runningip route add default via 192.168.3.1 3) plug the cable back in
[23:15] <Pinkamena_D> in that order
[23:15] <juaroj8_> hola necesito una ayuda con un servidor de ubuntu 12.04
[23:15] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, yea im not sure how to do that
[23:16] <Bulletrulz> HELP!!!!!
[23:16] <Pinkamena_D> why would i need to do this / how do i change the "primary interface" by default
[23:16] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, I followed a guide to set mine up the way it is.
[23:16] <ceege> lm-sensors might be what you want then Relondo - are there are gadgets for the desktop if that's what you mean
[23:16] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: what kind of router is it?
[23:16] <IdleOne> !es | juaroj8_
[23:16] <Chuck_Norris> Relondo: idk, but... if you have a "really" good PC you may try avg or avast or maby nod for linux, but it's not necesary
[23:16] <Relondo> Chuck_Norris: Why do I need a high-end PC for Avast? That's already what I use on my Windows 7 partition.
[23:16] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, its some piece of crap sort-of actiontec rev e comes with the FIOS internet from verizon, its a fiber optic modem (receives from coax)
[23:17] <Chuck_Norris> and for me, not recommended... Chuck Norris doesn't aprove AV on Linux
[23:17] <ceege> yeah, sensors-applet does HD temps and fan speeds
[23:17] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: ah, my girl has fios, haven't looked at their setup
[23:17] <asus1025c> does anyone here own an Atom N2600 or N2800 based netbook and using its hdmi port under gnu/linux?
[23:17] <asus1025c> My netbook is Asus EEEPC 1025C which features Intel GMA3650 graphics which are NOT supported by Intel and, I believe, there is a VERY experimental support even running linux 3.4.1
[23:17] <Relondo> Ceege: No, what I'm talking about is in Windows and Mac, depending on the model, your OS can alert you to when your hardware is about to kill itself.
[23:17] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: did you create sda4, sda5 ?
[23:17] <captainalvy> hey
[23:17] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, right now my setup is, isp-modem-router (10.10.10.1) dd-wrt (10.10.10.2) my pc's get dhcp address from isp modem like 10.10.10.3+
[23:18] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, yea they just installed this fios for me today
[23:18] <t0ntin> n1ckn4me09876543, i created one or two of those at one point, yes, but i don't know which ones can be deleted
[23:18] <ceege> lm-sensors is an alarm system
[23:18] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: you'd also need two interfaces on the linux box.
[23:18] <t0ntin> n1ckn4me09876543, i didn't create them today
[23:18] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: actually there's a way to do it with one but it's messy
[23:18] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: you said it might be windows who created partition sda4 sda5?    ok ok, you need to find out if there's any file on them before you can remove them
[23:18] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, oh I only have 1 ethernet card on my linux 1 on my windows 7
[23:18] <Chuck_Norris> Relondo: becouse, i try Nod years ago (when i was a noob) in realtime but consumed a lot o resources and i just uninstalled it
[23:19] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: go to Ubuntu Live preview  whatever tha'ts called, lets you boot to ubuntu desktop live
[23:19] <t0ntin> n1ckn4me09876543, windows does not recognize them. I only see drive C: in windows
[23:19] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: your can get supported ethernet cards for $20
[23:19] <raevol> anyone know the command to restart the unity window decorator?
[23:19] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, this setup I have works fine and i'm getting the advertised speeds using the dd-wrt to serve wifi does that sound good or is it stupid and I should just use the modem-router from verizon ?
[23:19] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: do what makes you happy and is secure
[23:19] <Relondo> Chuck_Norris: Is it really that much of a non-issue? I mean, surely SOMEONE out there is building viruses for Linux.
[23:20] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, I think this is working cause my dd-wrt doesn't do the NAT the isp modem does and I don't get double NAT so I can still play on xbox live. so I think this setup will work just fine.
[23:20] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, btw dd-wrt is a tiny linux for routers if you didn't know
[23:20] <eagle_eye> Relondo: Yes it is a non-issue
[23:20] <t0ntin> n1ckn4me09876543, you mean the ubuntu web site?
[23:21] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: yeah, the way i have it with the modem assigning it's public address to the linux box doesn't lead to double nat
[23:21] <InferiorHuman> eagle_eye, thats what MAC users thought then WHAM alot of em had that virus/malware recentl
[23:21] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: go and reboot
[23:22] <eagle_eye> InferiorHuman: Mac is not Linux...:))
[23:22] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, so you have ur modem in bridge mode, is there a webpage I can look at to see how your stuff is setup? im curious
[23:22] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: one sec
[23:22] <Relondo> Chuck_Norris: Well, I think that I can definitely afford to run AV, RAM-wise, especially on Ubuntu.
[23:22] <InferiorHuman> eagle_eye, aren't they both unix based so pretty similar or no?
[23:22] <raevol> command to restart unity window decorator was gtk-window-decorator --replace, in case anyone is reading this in logs
[23:22] <t0ntin> n1ckn4me09876543,  i gotta know what to do because i'm installing ubuntu on this computer
[23:22] <eagle_eye> InferiorHuman:Mac isn"t open source...is it?
[23:23] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: you're installing ubuntu 12.04 ?   go and reboot then pick Try Ubuntu
[23:23] <InferiorHuman> eagle_eye, no
[23:23] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fios+modem+bridge+mode
[23:23] <InferiorHuman> eagle_eye, but wouldn't it be easier to build a virus for something that IS open source im not an expert
[23:23] <t0ntin> n1ckn4me09876543, got it, what do i do after that?
[23:23] <Relondo> eagle_eye: Nope. And it seems to me that Ubuntu, being open-source, would be very easy for a ne'er-do-well to exploit :/
[23:23] <eagle_eye> InferiorHuman: Bingo!
[23:24] <unkn-error> what is the difference bweteen linux image and linux headers?
[23:24] <LittleBallOfHate> unkn-error: image is the kernel itself
[23:24] <LittleBallOfHate> unkn-error: headers are the files that are needed to build some software
[23:24] <eagle_eye> Relondo: then it sems you don't understand open source yet...
[23:24] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: you'll open up a file manager (folder)  then look for the 2 partitions,  you'll click the icons so it mounts it then find out if there's any file in them
[23:24] <eagle_eye> seems*
[23:25] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, LMAO let me google that for you
[23:25] <InferiorHuman> hahaha
[23:25] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: :D
[23:25] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: 3rd icon to the left called Home Folder
[23:25] <unkn-error> If I need some real time / low latecy apps, then linux headers will be enough or should I install also the real time image?
[23:25] <LittleBallOfHate> unkn-error: image
[23:25] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, but what does bridging do for me i am not sure ?
[23:25] <unkn-error> thx
[23:25] <srand> how do you install flash on ubuntu x64 ?
[23:25] <Relondo> eagle_eye: I was just thinking that, if the source code is available, any weaknesses would be well known to a hacker. Seriously, though, please explain why I'm wrong.
[23:26] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, im better than most people w networking but not an expert
[23:26] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: allows you to run a webserver, ssh server, build your own firewall and nat device, all kinds of things
[23:26] <Chuck_Norris> srand: download flash 64 from Adobe
[23:26] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: if you use the linux box as a router
[23:26] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: you just need to find out if there's any files on those 2 partition, if not then you can safely delete them to merge with windows, sda4 and sda5
[23:27] <Chuck_Norris> sry srand do: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[23:27] <ceege> you don't need bridging unless you are going to run virtual machines that need to bridge through your real adapter to the network
[23:27] <jrib> Relondo: yep, windows being closed source surely never gets exploited :)
[23:27] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: i also have VPN services setup on mine so my phone surfs as if I was at the house rather than from at&t's network
[23:27] <eagle_eye> Relondo: gnu linux is built by hackers, improved by hackers, documented by hackers, BELongs To hackers!
[23:28] <t0ntin> n1ckn4me09876543, ok, i'll see if i can do it
[23:28] <zykotick9> Chuck_Norris: i don't think flashplugin-installer will install 64bit, i think you need some adobe package from partner repo instead.  srand
[23:28] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, http://www.dslreports.com/faq/12506 that is how my network is setup ATM
[23:28] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: I can also use ssh or vpn to get from work to my boxes at home
[23:28] <srand> yeah i does not work for 64 bit, I've tried some guides but without succes
[23:28] <Chuck_Norris> zykotick9: let try if not, so from Adobe
[23:28] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: when you reboot it takes you to the screen where it ask you to Try Ubuntu or Install,  click install.  After that 3 options: Erase everything, Install alongside Windows, Something else. You wanna pick Install Alongside Windows.  Something else will take you to the partion screen where you have to specify stuff manually
[23:29] <t0ntin> n1ckn4me09876543,  i only have two options: erase everything and something else
[23:29] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: Install alongside ubuntu, after that you move a slider where you can choose the size for your ubuntu partition, after that its pretty much automatic the installer will so stuff for you.
[23:29] <Eszett> hey
[23:29] <Chuck_Norris> eagle_eye: biggest hacker ever: http://i.imgur.com/5XAdO.jpg
[23:29] <Eszett> how do I create a desktop shortcut in unity
[23:29] <Relondo> eagle_eye: True.
[23:29] <Eszett> there's no create launcher option for me
[23:30] <Eszett> and a symlink is undesirable
[23:30] <zybaldo> hey, can you guys help me to hack an msn account?
[23:30] <Eszett> zybaldo: OK
[23:30] <Eszett> 1) you can't ask here, that's illegal
[23:30] <Eszett> 2) you can't just "hack" an msn account
[23:30] <LittleBallOfHate> somebody ban zybaldo
[23:30] <Chuck_Norris> Eszett: gnome-desktop-item-edit ~/Desktop/ --create-new
[23:30] <Relondo> zybaldo: Yeah, sure, we'll all be party to your felony 0.0
[23:30] <Eszett> you can only hope to guess the password
[23:30] <eagle_eye> Chuck_Norris: who's that?
[23:30] <Eszett> LittleBallOfHate: he's ignorant, don't ban him yet
[23:30] <Eszett> newbies can learn
[23:30] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: hmm, idk why its not detecting windows as it should have.  What kind of ubuntu installer are you using?
[23:30] <Eszett> Chuck_Norris: thanks
[23:31] <Chuck_Norris> Eszett: np
[23:31] <zybaldo> sorry
[23:31] <Chuck_Norris> eagle_eye: i told ya, biggest hacker ever
[23:31] <t0ntin> n1ckn4me09876543, i burned an iso image onto a DVD. I got it from the ubuntu.com site
[23:31] <Eszett> zybaldo: I mean, the only way you could "hack" one is guess a password/password recovery question
[23:31] <eagle_eye> Chuck_Norris: really...lol!
[23:32] <Eszett> so basically, unless you know them very well or keylog their machine, you can't
[23:32] <Chuck_Norris> nope, i'm joking :D
[23:32] <ceege> and by 'biggest' he means 'fattest'
[23:32] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, yea im not seeing how to set this to bridged mode yet
[23:32] <Eszett> if you could just "hack" accounts, then computers would not be in common use
[23:32] <eagle_eye> :))
[23:32] <Eszett> since then the bad guys would just hack us gov all the time
[23:33] <Lunar_Lander> hi, just got a flashplayer-installer update and then it said after running the updates "downloading additional files failed" and then something about me having to remove the package first before reinstalling it and that the package is now unusable, what exactly does that mean? (that is on 12.04 LTS)
[23:33] <falstaph> I need some help with my wifi card setup
[23:33] <dontknow> i installed flash through "ubuntu restricted extras". flash is now 11.3, will it update flash?
[23:33] <t0ntin> n1ckn4me09876543, before trying to do this, I was posting here that when I install ubuntu using the wubi, the system restarts as soon as I choose ubuntu when I start the computer.
[23:33] <Lunar_Lander> yeah I got the restricted extras as well
[23:33] <LittleBallOfHate> falstaph: what's the issue?
[23:33] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: did you find out if you can safely remove sda4 sda5 partitions?  if you're in 64 bit I think you can make more than 4 partitions
[23:34] <t0ntin> n1ckn4me09876543, i'm working on it
[23:34] <OerHeks> dontknow, 11.3 ? just got update  11.2.202.236ubuntu0.12.04.1
[23:34] <Relondo> Can Ubuntu not play MP3's?
[23:34] <Eszett> Chuck_Norris: oh I see, that opens a create launcher window. Thank you again :D
[23:35] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: restricted extras
[23:35] <Chuck_Norris> Eszett: np again :D
[23:35] <cleaninstall> without the extra packages it cant play mp3's , so get the restricted extra's
[23:35] <falstaph> I have downloaded the drivers for my broadcom card ... I have 43-fwcutter but I can't get everything to work
[23:35] <dontknow> OerHeks, how did you install flash? with restricted extras?
[23:35] <Lunar_Lander> OerHeks, I got the same version number as you
[23:35] <Relondo> LittleBallOfHate: What does that mean?
[23:35] <Chuck_Norris> Eszett: i tell ya a tip, give me a couple of seconds =P
[23:35] <Eszett> Now I'll use that to create a launcher to create a launcher
[23:35] <Eszett> :P
[23:35] <LittleBallOfHate> falstaph: why do you need drivers from broadcom and not ones in the kernel already?
[23:36] <eagle_eye> falstaph: lspci -v | grep ethernet
[23:36] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: enable restricted extras in your sources.list and then apt-get update
[23:36] <OerHeks> dontknow, yes, so i get updates too ( answer to your 2nd Q)
[23:36] <eagle_eye> falstaph: lspci -v | grep Ethernet
[23:36] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: you'll have to google what packages to install
[23:36] <Relondo> LittleBallOfHate: I'm gonna need you to walk me through that.
[23:37] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:37] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: all the way at the bottom are two lines to uncomment
[23:37] <Relondo> LittleBallOfHate: How do I get to the command line, again?
[23:37] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: terminal
[23:37] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: or ctrl-alt-f1
[23:37] <OerHeks> !b43
[23:37] <eagle_eye> Relondo: ctrl alt T
[23:38] <Relondo> Thanks
[23:38] <OerHeks> falstaph, sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer ( and reboot)
[23:39] <Relondo> LittleBallOfHate: So how do I enable these restricted extras?
[23:39] <Chuck_Norris> Eszett: is not a tip but... if you see a rocket and you wanna to change that just in "icon=..." write the path where is your icon that you wanna to see insead of the rocket, and... .ico is a good format for icons
[23:39] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:39] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: all the way at the bottom are two lines to uncomment
[23:39] <Relondo> LittleBallOfHate: I don't know what that means.
[23:39] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: type that top command
[23:40] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: you're editing a config file
[23:40] <t0ntin> n1ckn4me09876543, i'm seeing now what there are files in those partitions. One of them is used by Dell (Dell MediaDirect)
[23:40] <Eszett> Chuck_Norris: you mean use text editor?
[23:40] <Relondo> LittleBallOfHate: I entered that command. But what do you mean by uncomment?
[23:40] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, found a guide to bridge modem isp to my router, gonna try it thanks.
[23:40] <Chuck_Norris> ye, to edit "launcher.desktop"
[23:40] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, does this make me double nat or no?
[23:41] <eagle_eye> Relondo: edit the sources.list file in the /etc/apt folder and uncomment the last two lines
[23:41] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: there are two lines, one starts with "deb" the other starts with "deb-src" there's a section of text above them that talks about restricted extras
[23:41] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: what's your pc spec?
[23:41] <Lunar_Lander> damn, Firefox 13 now suddenly crashes on facebook
[23:41] <Lunar_Lander> any idea why?
[23:41] <CQN> hi, does anyone know the right video output in smplayer for h.264 hardware decoding? i've got it set to "nv17 video texture" right now, but some online say it should be "vdpau" (an option i don't see available by default)
[23:41] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: i would NOT turn that on unless you have the dd-wrt inbetween your modem and pcs
[23:42] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: are you on 32bit x86  or 64 bit?  how much ram do you have?
[23:42] <Relondo> LittleBallOfHate: I got six lines, and they all start with "deb".
[23:42] <t0ntin> n1ckn4me09876543, core 2 duo, 3gb RAM, 250 GB HD
[23:42] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, I do, will bridging the modem router make the dd-wrt handle the internet etc? im a bit confused
[23:42] <eagle_eye> !ot | Lunar_Lander
[23:42] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: well "#deb" and "#deb-src"
[23:42] <Lunar_Lander> eagle_eye, this is on ubuntu
[23:42] <LittleBallOfHate> InferiorHuman: yes, exactly
[23:43] <InferiorHuman> LittleBallOfHate, ok cool. gonna go try it
[23:43] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: see if you can make another partition
[23:43] <t0ntin> n1ckn4me09876543, how big?
[23:43] <Relondo> LittleBallOfHate: You'll have to excuse me; I'm extremely new to Linux, and I really just don't know what you're trying to tell me.
[23:43] <Chuck_Norris> CQN: mplayer -fs -aspect 16:9 -vo gl2 /path/to/video
[23:43] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: you'll need 2 partition, one for ubuntu,  about 15 gigs  ext3 or ext4,   the other is for swap, about 1-2 gigs
[23:44] <Relondo> LittleBallOfHate: I need specific instructions.
[23:44] <eagle_eye> !repo
[23:44] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: those #deb and #deb-src need to be just deb and deb-src. Delete the # in front of them.
[23:44] <t0ntin> n1ckn4me09876543, ok
[23:44] <Lunar_Lander> how can I delete a package?
[23:45] <eagle_eye> !repo | Relondo
[23:45] <LittleBallOfHate> Lunar_Lander: apt-get remove "package" or apt-get --purge remove "package" if you want configs and all gone
[23:45] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[23:45] <Lunar_Lander> thanks
[23:45] <Relondo> LittleBallOfHate: #deb and #deb-src are not appearing anywhere.
[23:45] <Lunar_Lander> LittleBallOfHate, with sudo?
[23:46] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: huh. you know where to set software sources?
[23:46] <LittleBallOfHate> Lunar_Lander: yup
[23:46] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: within X?
[23:46] <Relondo> LittleBallOfHate: Nope. Would the fact that I have not installed Ubuntu, and am just booting off of a flash drive, affect anything?
[23:46] <lappy> Hey everyone.  So I did something stupid.  I mistyped an rm command, and accidentally erased my entire external HDD.  Now, I can replace everything that was on it, but that would be a MAJOR hassle.
[23:47] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: hahahahaha. yeah.
[23:47] <eagle_eye> Relondo: no
[23:47] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: mount point for ubuntu partition is   /               then install
[23:47] <lappy> Is there anyway that I can just recover the files from the drive?
[23:47] <Eszett> lappy: well, first things first, do not edit ANYTHING on the drive
[23:47] <Eszett> no new files at all
[23:47] <Relondo> LittleBallOfHate: He says no and you say  yes. Hm.
[23:47] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: make sure its the correct partition with file system ext3 or ext4
[23:47] <LittleBallOfHate> lappy: NO WRITES TO DRIVE
[23:47] <lappy> Eszett, I shut it down and unplugged it right away.
[23:47] <Eszett> good.
[23:48] <Eszett> I can't tell you the rest, I only know about how to do it on windows
[23:48] <Lunar_Lander> can it be that updates can get corrupted?
[23:48] <Spec> n1ckn4me09876543: my pc spec?
[23:48] <Relondo> LittleBallOfHate: Anyway, what are the chances of reformatting my drive with the Ubuntu installer wrecking the entire thing? Should I take an image first?
[23:48] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: well. /etc/apt/sources.list may be on read only media if temp booting ubuntu
[23:48] <n1ckn4me09876543> Spec: talking to t0ntin
[23:48] <lappy> Eszett, I have a windows 7 partition, if that would help?
[23:48] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: always make backups before any major disk operation
[23:48] <t0ntin> n1ckn4me09876543, i'm trying to do it with windows, but haven't figured out how
[23:48] <eagle_eye> Relondo: just do a wubi install
[23:49] <Relondo> eagle_eye: Gross, no thanks.
[23:49] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: that being said, I've never toasted a partition with the installer that I didn't want to.
[23:49] <Lunar_Lander> LittleBallOfHate, thanks, firefox doesn't crash now anymore when on facebook, I think it was that failed flashplugin update
[23:49] <n1ckn4me09876543> t0ntin: what do you mean? trying to do what with windows?
[23:49] <t0ntin> n1ckn4me09876543, create the partitions
[23:49] <LittleBallOfHate> Lunar_Lander: also apt-get -f install helps sometimes
[23:50] <Lunar_Lander> what does that do?
[23:50] <Relondo> LittleBallOfHate: I'm not sure how much room I want to give my Ubuntu. Can I resize it later with Ubuntu, or do I need another program  for that? (I know that such programs exist, but they can screw things up).
[23:50] <Chuck_Norris> ye, or aptitude install -f
[23:50] <eagle_eye> Relondo: i suppose you are still new to linux & ubuntu?...minimize risk!
[23:50] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: gparted to resize any disks
[23:50] <Chuck_Norris> oh! but... if it about update so, might be GPG keys
[23:50] <lappy> So besides not writing anything on the HDD, does anyone have any suggestions how I could recover my accidentally (and stupidly) deleted files?
[23:50] <Lunar_Lander> LittleBallOfHate, how can I try to install the flashplayer again?
[23:50] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: it's pretty safe, but I like to wear my seatbelt so I make backups
[23:51] <escott> !undelete | lappy
[23:51] <Lunar_Lander> sudo apt-get flashplugin-installer?
[23:51] <LittleBallOfHate> Lunar_Lander: sudo apt-get install flashplayer-installer
[23:51] <Relondo> eagle_eye: Yeah, I am new to it, but I know about the reliability issues with Wubi.
[23:51] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[23:51] <LittleBallOfHate> Lunar_Lander: i think that's it anyway
[23:51] <Relondo> LittleBallOfHate: Gparted?
[23:51] <lappy> Excellent, thank you very much for the help!
[23:51] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: google gparted. can be booted from usb flash or cd
[23:52] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: like the old partition magic software
[23:52] <eagle_eye> Relondo: wubi installs are great and effective
[23:52] <LittleBallOfHate> Relondo: resize, delete and create partitions
[23:52] <lappy> The filesystem was NFTS, so hopefully it will be possible.
[23:52] <Relondo> LittleBallOfHate: Yeah, my dad has partition magic. On a Floppy. (Dear god, floppy drives).
[23:53] <Relondo> eagle_eye: Yes, but the drive bouncing can cause problems, and for the long-term, I'd just rather have a dual-boot.
[23:54] <eagle_eye> Relondo: my advice? do a wubi install, play around with ubuntu, build confidence & then create a physical partition for ubuntu...besides wubi installs a dual boot too!
[23:54] <Lunar_Lander> LittleBallOfHate, YAY I think it failed on the first time at the step where it was to download from archive.canonical.com
[23:55] <Relondo> eagle_eye: Can I install Wubi without having to download anything else? Can I just point it at my standard iso or something?
[23:55] <Pierreb> What is the "best" hardware i can get to run a htpc with ubuntu?
[23:55] <n1ckn4me09876543> Relondo: wubi is an exe file you open up while on windows OS
[23:55] <eagle_eye> Relondo: use the windows installer on the ubuntu website
[23:56] <Pierreb> im so god damn tired of crappy driver support and other really retarded things
[23:56] <eagle_eye> Relondo: you must be online to install via wubi
[23:56] <Relondo> eagle_eye: I have the Wubi.exe file. But it has to download Ubuntu once you start it; I was wondering if, since I already have the standard installation files downloaded, I could somehow avoid another 700 meg download.
[23:57] <eagle_eye> Relondo: there are no short cuts...you must download ubuntu again via the installer
[23:58] <juan_> Relondo: you can certainly download the image and throw it into wubi for install
[23:58] <Relondo> eagle_eye: Alright. Guess I'll have to do that overnight, then.
[23:58] <Relondo> juan_: That's what I'm talking about. How do I do that?
[23:58] <eagle_eye> Relondo: overnight? it takes about 45mins
[23:59] <n1ckn4me09876543> Relondo: like most ppl tell me "stay away from wubi if you can"
[23:59] <n1ckn4me09876543> Relondo: get the iso and put it on a pendrive or a disc and go from there
[23:59] <LittleBallOfHate> Lunar_Lander: what was the error?
[23:59] <Relondo> eagle_eye: My "high-speed" is significantly slower than most.
[23:59] <eagle_eye> ahh