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JMichaelXthese latest nvidia drivers have performed much more poorly with this nvidia ion2 GPU that their earlier drivers00:01
genii-aroundBack00:13
genii-arounddouglarret: The basic process would be described here: http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/00:13
genii-aroundJMichaelX: I'm out of immediate ideas on the fan issue at the moment then00:15
genii-aroundgladii: Reading00:15
JMichaelXgood grief. flash player's issue with everything being blue, when hardware acceleration is enabled (w/ nvidia) is still alive and well00:16
genii-aroundgladii: Very odd, cannot find the device there. Please unplug it, then: sudo modprobe dvb-usb-ec168 && sudo modprobe mxl5005s    .. then insert the stick again and pastebin the result of: dmesg | tail00:23
artaohai ... this is a really annoying issue ... when a game goes fullscreen, my desktop settings don't come back when I exit the game .. i have dual monitor setup, and coming out of a game it resets them to clone mode every time .. also different resolutions screws up the display of the desktop sometimes00:25
gladiigenii-around: http://pastebin.com/6u8SWKja00:33
genii-aroundgladii: Reading00:39
gladiigenii-around: Thank you for all your help00:39
genii-aroundgladii: I have gotten ahold of the Windows driver file for this exact model now ( 3420A ) and will be extracting the firmware from it shortly. After this I will pm a link for you to download the files and put them in your /lib/firmware/ directory. Please first however, remove the two previous files we copied there previously.00:42
genii-aroundBah. Need to install wine. It's a self-extracting exe file.00:43
gladiiI have wine00:43
gladiiI will delete those files first00:44
genii-aroundgladii: OK. I will pm a link then to download the exe file from where I am shortly.00:44
gladiithank you so much00:44
gladiigenii-around, can I ask you where are you from?00:45
genii-aroundgladii: Toronto, Canada00:45
gladiigenii-around, I am just worried about your time... I am in London.00:47
genii-aroundgladii: I had to stay at work late anyhow. So not such a problem as i am here anyhow00:49
gladiigenii-around: when I try to load the program using wine. I do not see any thing.00:52
gladiiNot even an error message.00:52
genii-aroundgladii: I am sorting it out over here, wine installed now. Looks like the first file is a wrapper to DriverGuide ( where I found it ). Give me a few minutes00:53
gladiiok00:53
gladiiThank you00:53
genii-aroundgladii: I extracted them successfully. Now a moment while I put them to where you can fetch them00:54
gladiigenii-around: Thank you00:56
* genii-around makes more coffee00:59
genii-aroundgladii: Did you manage to get the files OK and copy them to the right place?01:01
gladiiyes... I put that in place.01:02
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gladiigenii-around: I unplugged my device and plugged back in.01:02
genii-aroundgladii: OK :) Does dmesg | tail   say something different now than before?01:03
gladiihttp://pastebin.com/tvUfSy4C01:03
genii-aroundBah01:04
genii-aroundgladii: This is a tough one!01:04
douglarretI have just installed another un working copy of kubuntu 12.04 - how do I get a console? I get some message when ctrl+alt+fx [drm} mepiveai etc?01:04
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genii-arounddouglarret: You get any console access if ctrl-alt-F1 or so?01:05
gladiigenii-around: Let us forget about this.01:05
gladiigenii-around: Anyway... I am not a big fan of TV01:06
douglarretgenii-around, I would expect so but I dont - can you suggest options for installing nvidia drivers?01:06
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genii-aroundgladii: For me it is a puzzle... but I do understand that the time investment in sorting it out is frustrating01:07
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genii-arounddouglarret: Were you able to get grub working properly yet after you booted from the usb?01:07
gladiigenii-around: are you good in backtrack?01:07
genii-aroundgladii: No, sorry01:08
gladiiThank you01:08
gladiigenii-around: Thank you, anyway01:10
gladiiThank you for your time and effort01:10
genii-aroundeg: if able to get command-line on the install you want to put the nvidia drivers01:10
douglarretgenii-around, no - just did a reinstall picking /dev/sdb for grub install? now when I boot kubuntu boots but I see no grub menu01:10
genii-aroundgladii: You're welcome. Apologies not to have solved your issue.01:11
gladiigenii-around: It's ok... Do you like to give me some lecture sudo su? :-P01:12
genii-arounddouglarret: Well, the grub menu itself might not show by default. Sometimes you need to hold down the left shift key to see it. But your kubuntu is now beginning to boot but then fails ?01:12
gladiion*01:12
genii-aroundgladii: On an (k)ubuntu system the root user is disabled on purpose, mostly to prevent the user from casually destroying things by accident. Since the root user account itself is not enabled, it is advisable to use sudo -i rather than sudo su. Then after the admin-type things have been performed to type exit to return to unpriveleged user prompt.01:14
gladiigenii-around: I got you.01:16
gladiigenii-around: Can I ask you what kind of work are you doing?01:17
douglarretgenii-around, left shift key did it is booting now? gonna install the nvidia drivers01:17
genii-aroundgladii: I am reviewing footage from our surveillance system here, deleting unimportant sequences. Also repairing some laptops ( Aspire One D260 and a Macbook Pro 13" Unibody )01:20
gladiigenii-around: That is quite interesting Job01:22
genii-arounddouglarret: Usually I do it from command-line with sudo apt-get install nvidia-current   ... this is assuming the "restricted" repository is already enabled01:23
genii-aroundgladii: I worked/volunteered for a long time in this building for an ISP ... the caretaker of the building would ask me to help fix stuff. So when he finished I was recommended to his old job. So now I look after the whole building as well as continuing on with my old work. The tenants come to me to get their computers fixed, which is what I'm partially up to right now.01:25
douglarretgenii-around, good to know - thanks for your help I appreciate it :)01:27
genii-arounddouglarret: Anytime01:28
gladiigenii-around: Very nice of you01:28
gladiigenii-around: God bless you01:29
* genii-around gets back to desoldering some problemmatic surface mount components01:35
douglfinally my kubuntu 12.04 from the hardrive :)02:22
Ormiehello, i have a problem here.02:22
OrmieKDE Wallet asks me for the password to open it all the time02:22
Ormieand it happens each time i start my computer02:23
Ormiehow do I make it automatically authenticate.02:23
Ormie?02:23
frogonwheelsOrmie: Well that's kind of the point of the wallet.02:23
frogonwheelsOrmie: what I suggest is a short password02:24
Ormiefrogonwheels, If I don't put the password in, I can't connect wireless network, I want it to auto authenticate.02:24
frogonwheelsOrmie: for example mine has 4 keypresses02:24
genii-aroundOr just use enter key02:24
Ormiegenii-around, enter key?02:25
genii-aroundOrmie: As your password for kwallet02:25
frogonwheelsOrmie: then set up the wireless network in the /etc/network/interfaces   - it's a little awkward ... but..02:25
genii-aroundeg: no password02:26
Ormieooh, please explain again. One person at a time, please?02:26
Ormiehey dudes!02:29
OrmieCan I just use a diferent system of storing passwords other than wallet?02:30
OrmieSomething like ubuntu uses.02:30
pablo_why? kwallet is not working fine?02:31
Ormiepablo, it keeps asking me to authenticate every time the computer starts.02:32
OrmieMy battery is only 26 minutes.02:32
OrmieI can't charge, I have a electricity out.02:33
pablo_well that is right, it's just asking once02:33
pablo_or not?02:33
Ormiepablo_, It asks all the time02:33
OrmiePLEASE HELP?02:33
Ormie/02:34
Ormiepablo_, it asks everytime i start the computer.02:35
OrmieI have 18 minutes of battery left.02:36
frogonwheelsOrmie: as I said, you can use /etc/network/interfaces - that's still available as an option, and the networkmanager will avoid interfaces managed with that file.02:36
Ormiefrogonwheels, how?02:36
frogonwheelsOrmie: google is your friend on this.  I know sorta the basics... but it's been a while.02:37
frogonwheelsOrmie: hmm.. and getting wap2 auth will be a tad tricky.02:37
Ormieoh no02:38
frogonwheelshmm.. there may be ways with networkmanager though. wait a sec02:38
Ormiesigh02:39
frogonwheelsOrmie: did you check the 'system connection'  box?02:39
Ormiehuh?02:40
Ormiewhere?02:40
genii-aroundOrmie: I would just recommend to delete .kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl   in your home directory, then when it pops up asking for a password to use for kwallet again as if it's first been run, to not give it one but just hit the Continue button or such.02:40
frogonwheelsOrmie: open up the config for your wireless config02:40
frogonwheelswirless interface I meant.02:40
genii-aroundYou'll never see it again after that02:40
OrmieI HAVE 30 SECONDS OF BATTERY! I AM SO SORRY02:40
frogonwheelsOrmie: write it down. Network Manager  System Connection02:41
frogonwheelsManage Connections ... edit the config.. check the 'SYstem Connection' checkbox.02:41
frogonwheelsI'm about 90% sure that you want to make it a system connection that's not a user-based connection.02:42
mydogsnameisrudyhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/22154/how-to-reset-a-password-from-kwallet02:42
OrmieI am a magical genius! I can recharge :D02:42
genii-aroundmydogsnameisrudy: Pretty much, yes02:42
frogonwheelsOrmie: you don't want to reset the kwallet password I'm thinking.02:42
frogonwheelsOrmie: if this works, you can keep your kwallet with a password for storing all your other passwords02:43
frogonwheelsOrmie: check the 'connect automatically' and 'system connection' .. have you found those yet?02:44
Ormieyes02:44
frogonwheelsOrmie: presumably you have to reboot to see whether they worked.. but ....02:45
Ormiewut?02:45
frogonwheelsOrmie: did you check the boxes?02:45
Ormieyeah02:45
frogonwheels.. they were already checked? or they weren't?02:46
Ormiethere are02:46
Ormiethere are checked02:46
frogonwheelsOrmie: they were before? they are now?02:47
Ormiefrogonwheels: there are now checked.02:47
frogonwheelsok.. well I guess save and then suck it and see02:47
Ormieyou meean I restart the computer?02:48
Ormiefrogonwheels02:49
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Guest44111Hello. I am new to linux and I am having some issues installing sun's java 7. I have tried $sudo update-alternatives --config java ...and it told me i only had open jdk.  I have already downloaded java7 from sun and put it in my /usr/lib/jvm folder02:55
Guest44111Thank you02:55
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OrmieI got this error also:03:06
OrmiePersonal Contacts: Directory '/home/suttiwit/.local/share/contacts/' does not exists03:06
Ormiemust that be something serious?03:06
genii-aroundNot serious. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/96691303:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 966913 in kdepim (Ubuntu) "Akonadi contact resource wrong defaults" [High,Confirmed]03:08
Ormieok03:10
Ormiethx03:11
TydelhofHello. Does anyone here have experience installing sun's java on kubuntu?03:13
frogonwheelsTydelhof: did you not just use the package installer?03:16
genii-aroundTydelhof: Basically extract the files to /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.6.0_24   ( or so )  and then use update-alternatives to add the relevant entries under that like the /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.6.0_24/bin/java as the default03:17
TydelhofI have tried $sudo update-alternatives --config java ...and it told me i only had open jdk.  I have already downloaded java7 from sun and put it in my /usr/lib/jvm folder03:18
genii-aroundTydelhof: http://askubuntu.com/questions/56104/how-can-i-install-oracle-java-jre-703:18
Tydelhofthats where i started and when i got to the update-alternatives step it fails03:19
Tydelhofdoesnt recognize the java7 folder as a java alternative03:20
genii-aroundThey missed a step in there, you have to use update-alternatives to add the new stuff as a possibility03:20
genii-aroundLet me look up the syntax03:20
TydelhofThank you03:22
Tydelhofgenii-around: much appreciated03:22
genii-aroundTydelhof: Syntax is like: sudo update-alternatives --install java java /opt/jdk1.5.0_22_64bit/bin/java          ( taken from http://www.codinginahurry.com/2010/12/29/how-to-setup-up-a-new-jdk-with-update-alternatives/ )03:22
genii-aroundSubstitute accordingly...03:22
genii-aroundTydelhof: I think it might need a number in there somewhere too, I forget. If so, use next-highest number than what the current result of update-alternatives --config shows03:27
Tydelhofupdate-alternatives: --install needs <link> <name> <path> <priority>03:28
Tydelhofis the error i get with that03:29
genii-aroundTydelhof: What is the output of sudo update-alternatives --config java     ...currently? And also the command you are trying with the --install directive03:31
Tydelhofgenii-around:  There is only one alternative in link group java: /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java03:32
TydelhofNothing to configure.03:32
genii-aroundTydelhof: So what is the current way you are trying to run sudo update-alternatives --install   ... ?03:33
TydelhofI am pointing it to the folder the instructions told me to create /usr/lib/jvm03:33
Tydelhof./java1.7.0/bin/java03:34
genii-aroundTydelhof: Might need full paths and a number, like:  sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/lib/Wherever-under-here-you-extracted-the-java-files-to/ 203:35
raghu_hello03:37
genii-aroundTydelhof: Probably  like: sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/lib/jvm/java1.7.0/bin/java 203:37
OrmieI can play sound, but no sound Icon on taskbar?03:38
OrmieI am regreting this,03:38
genii-aroundOrmie: Multimedia...Kmix03:39
Ormiegood, now. I want it to start everytime i start my computer.03:40
Tydelhofupdate-alternatives: error: alternative path /usr/lib/jvm/java1.7.0/bin/java doesn't exist.03:41
Tydelhofgenii-around: ^03:41
genii-aroundTydelhof: Where did you extract The java to?03:42
Tydelhofi had extracted it in the downloads directory and then moved the java directory to the /usr/lib03:43
genii-aroundOrmie: Leave... Save Session ... then System settings...Startup and Shutdown...Session Management...in the "on Login" part check off "Restore Manully Saved Session" ... click on Apply button at bottom right03:45
genii-aroundTydelhof: Please pastebin result of command: ls /usr/lib/jvm/*03:47
Tydelhofgenii-around: http://pastebin.com/YYNszX7Q03:49
genii-aroundVery odd.03:52
genii-aroundTydelhof: Does: ls -l /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0/bin/java      Show it as being there?03:53
genii-around( or even just up to the ../bin/      part and see if any files in there and that they belong to root, etc03:54
Tydelhofgenii-around: "-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7630 Apr 12 05:21 /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0/bin/java"03:54
genii-aroundTydelhof: Caught the issue, I put "java1.7.0" instead of "jre1.7.0" Try now instead: sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0/bin/java 203:58
genii-aroundI'm tired today :-)03:59
Tydelhofgenii-around: i should have caught that03:59
Tydelhofgenii-around: thank you very much. that worked.04:01
genii-aroundTydelhof: Might also want to do the same for the javaws file04:01
genii-aroundThe --config should now show it as an option, eyc04:02
genii-around*etc04:02
Tydelhofgenii-around: yea it did and its now selected \04:02
Tydelhofgenii-around: what is javaws04:02
genii-aroundTydelhof: java web start ... kind of hard to describe but it should be same version as the java04:04
genii-aroundhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Web_Start for explanation04:04
Tydelhofgenii-around: so "sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/javaws javaws /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0/bin/javaws 204:04
Tydelhof"04:04
Tydelhofgenii-around: sub out java for javaws04:05
genii-aroundTydelhof: Only use number 2 if the sudo update-alternatives --config javaws    shows only one option04:05
Tydelhofgenii-around: copy04:05
genii-aroundOtherwise use next highest # ,etc etc04:05
genii-aroundIf it shows no current option, 1 is OK04:06
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OrmieI have a weird problem on my Desktop05:43
OrmieI played with bouncy ball widget and I turn on the auto bounce05:43
OrmieNow it's bouncing around un controllably05:43
OrmieI want to close it.05:43
OrmieHow?05:44
Enkidu_akTry unlocking widgets and removing it from the Desktop05:44
Ormieok05:44
OrmieEnkidu_ak, I can't catch it in time!05:45
Enkidu_akSee if you can borrow a neighbors 5-year old. They have reflexes like a cat05:47
Avihaylol05:47
OrmieThis is a desktop invasion!05:47
Enkidu_akShrink-wrap your keyboard first. Toddler drool is serious business05:48
OrmieBouncing ball bouncing around05:48
OrmieEnkidu_ak, eh?05:48
Avihaywell, you can crash your session, or logout of the gui and edit the configure file to drop the ball05:49
Ormieoh no!05:50
OrmieIs there an easier way?05:50
* Ormie catches the bouncing ball05:51
* Ormie pops it.05:51
OrmieDone! Thanks. It is rare that I can catch it.05:51
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lordievaderGood morning07:43
* genii-around sips08:06
NoiseChancellorIs there a way to hide k3b's progress bar overlay? Can't seem to find it in the options.08:07
NoiseChancellorNevermind, right click ...08:07
AptarTorn.  Should I choose Kubuntu over Ubuntu08:14
lordievaderAptar: That is personal preference, Kubuntu uses KDE and Ubuntu uses gnome/unity. Some people like unity better others (like us here on the channel) like KDE better.08:17
AptarKinda like a Ford or a Chevy then?08:18
AptarCoke or a pepsi..08:19
lordievaderAptar: Windows or linux, yes08:19
Aptaralright08:19
Aptarhell with windows im sick of it08:19
lordievaderAptar: I'd say try 'em out both (kde, unity) and see what you like best.08:20
Aptarive tried the unity before with the sliding bar on the left i remember that on a live cd i downloaded08:21
Aptardidnt like that sliding bar crap08:21
Aptari will try kde08:21
AptarI guess more people choose gnome it seems. Or just more people visit their channel.08:22
lordievaderAptar: Ubuntu is indeed more popular than any other *buntu.08:24
AptarI wonder why that is.08:26
lordievaderAptar: If you join #kubuntu-offtopic we can discuss it, not really a topic for this channel.08:27
AptarOh I am sorry, I wasn't aware of that.08:27
lordievaderAptar: This is a kubuntu help channel.08:28
AptarAh, ok.08:28
Aptar<-- new guy08:29
Vman_hello, i want smaller icons in system tray (16-22px), it is possible ? (im new in kde)08:39
bwayneHello.  Fresh install of Kubuntu.09:01
phoenix_firebrdkubuntu daily build contain kde 4.9 beta 109:07
LynoureHello!09:14
LynoureIt seems I have line-out jack sense not working. Where is the setting for that?09:14
LynoureThat is: now, even if I have headphones plugged in, there is sound from the build-in speakers09:15
phoenix_firebrdLynoure: hi09:48
Lynourephoenix_firebrd: Hi09:48
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phoenix_firebrdhave you checked the alsamixer?09:48
LynoureIn some earlier Kubuntu's the jack sense setting was in alsamixer, but I don't see it there09:49
phoenix_firebrdLynoure: is your soundcard detected correctly?09:49
Lynourephoenix_firebrd: I have assumed so, because sound comes out. What's the current way to check?09:53
phoenix_firebrdLynoure: check in alsa mixer09:53
phoenix_firebrdLynoure: in alsamixer on the top left you can see the card09:54
LynoureThis is a laptop, HP Pavilion dv6 and I'm not sure which chipset it has, but device name  HDA ATI SB sounds sensible09:56
LynoureNo setting for headphone jack sense though09:57
phoenix_firebrdLynoure: try the command "sudo lspci -v" and it will should the card properly09:57
phoenix_firebrdLynoure: *show09:57
Lynourephoenix_firebrd: ah, yes, of course.09:58
LynoureSeems if I scale speakers volume all the way down, I get kind of what I want, but jack sense is so much handier way09:58
phoenix_firebrdLynoure: problem solved?09:59
updazohow can i upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04? muon updater doesn't propose a distribution upgrade, nor "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"; if i write cat /etc/issue; it's written Ubuntu 11.10 \n \l09:59
Lynourephoenix_firebrd: not really.09:59
Lynourephoenix_firebrd: because jack sense would be the right way, this is just a manual fiddling workaround10:00
LynoureYes, card seems detected right: 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)10:00
phoenix_firebrdLynoure: ya10:02
Lynourephoenix_firebrd: would mean having to remember to adjust speaker volume in alsamixer every time, as kmix does not let me target the speakers separately, only master, so then controlling the volume in general becomes fiddly, too10:03
phoenix_firebrdLynoure: you can control individual channels in kmix10:04
Lynourephoenix_firebrd: if you can tell me how I get a speaker channel there and headphone channel, I'd be grateful10:04
Lynourephoenix_firebrd: currently I just have master, none of those separately10:05
Lynourephoenix_firebrd: if I go to Audio Hardware Setup and choose Headphones as the connector, I get no sound at all10:09
lordievaderGood afternoon10:15
Lynourelordievader: hi10:16
* Lynoure is fighting with the jack sense setting being seemingly nowhere10:16
lordievaderLynoure: Hey, how are you?10:17
LynoureOtherwise fine and happy10:17
lordievaderLynoure: What do you mean with jack sense?10:17
LynoureBut having a laptop that is tough to use in libraries is a bit of a problem10:17
Lynourelordievader: the internal speakers muting when headphones are plugged in10:18
rethushi10:18
lordievaderAh that stuff, you want to disable it or something?10:18
rethusi will upgrade my natty (32bit) to 12.04 LTS (64bit). [Fresh installation of / partition]10:18
Lynourelordievader: No, I want to have that. Currently I plug in headphones and the internal speakers keep on blasting10:19
rethusis it recomended to use 12.04, or should i better use oneiric 11.40?10:19
Lynourerethus: 12.04 is the newest stable release, so I'd try it at least10:19
lordievaderLynoure: Isn't that more hardware related than software?10:19
Lynoure(I'm on 12.04 myself and this jack sense thing is my only real problem)10:19
Lynourelordievader: worked in the previous release, so I'd say "no"10:20
rethusLaynoure: jack-audio?10:20
lordievaderHmm strange.10:20
Lynourelordievader: now I cannot even find the jack sense setting10:20
Lynoureused to be in alsamixer10:20
Lynourerethus: --verbose  :)10:21
rethusk, so i use 11.40, cause i need a clean stable running development-enviroment for production, not a "home-Workstation" to try and play ;)10:21
rethusmeans software like eclipse, mysql-database... and all the stuff10:21
Lynourerethus: I mean, I don't have a command "jack-audio" and there does not seem to be a package by that name either10:21
rethusah, k10:22
Lynourerethus: I'd used 12.04 for that10:22
Lynourerethus: unless I had some specific reason not to.10:22
rethusquestion for installation... i have a /home-partition... and now i want to use a free, new 80gb for root, to install 11.40. than i want to pugin my home... but after all stuff is working, i want ty encrypt my home-partition...10:23
Lynourerethus: 11.04 (not 40, there is not that many months in a year) is well, a bit older. So you'd probably miss a newer eclipse etc10:23
lordievaderJack audio is a completly different audio manager, like pulse or alsa. More meant for music production.10:24
rethusis there a special installation-image to use for this... i heard before about "to use Alternate CD (64Bit)" for this?10:24
lordievaderrethus: The alternate cd should give you more options during the install, but since I never used it, I cannot say for sure.10:25
LynoureCould someone check if they have a headphone jack sense setting somewhere (in kmix or alsamixer)? So that I get a bit more info on my situation.10:26
lordievaderLynoure: I don't seem to have a switch for it, however in Phonon there are under Audio Hardware Setup two entries under Connecter, Headphones and Analogue Out, he switches between these two. Mutes one enables the other.10:29
Lynourelordievader: I have there Speakers and Headphones, and if I choose Headphones even the headphones mute10:34
lordievaderLynoure: And the slider for headphones is not turned down or muted?10:35
Lynourelordievader: in alsamixer? Not before changing the connector at least. Let's see.10:42
Lynourelordievader: do you need to change the connector yourself in order to mute build-in speakers? That is, does jack sense work for you?10:43
lordievaderLynoure: Works fine here, that is how I noticed that it switches, if I plugin a jack it goes to connecter headphones.10:43
han_810:46
lordievaderNeed to go, cya10:47
AptarCan anyone tell me why Muon is telling me I don't have the correct permissions to do an update, but it doesn't give me a place to put in my permission..?10:49
Joitaptar usually muon ask me after the list of available updates for my password,   may look at your bar below if its at the backround10:51
Aptarnope its not there...since operation cannot continue because proper authorization was not provided...10:53
Joitwell my workaround would be to install synaptic and reinstall muon10:54
Joitor with apt-get10:54
coldfireuse apt-get to do the upgrade...10:55
Aptari just put kubuntu on here, like 20 minutes ago10:55
Aptarheh10:55
Aptarnew user10:55
Aptarive used ubuntu some before, but never kubuntu...i know its similar however...10:55
Joitah. synaptic is another package manager, apt-get -install works at the prompt with f2 - konsole10:56
Joitalt - f2 *10:56
rethusLynoure: whatyou try to do with jack?10:56
rethusi use it in 11.0410:56
rethusfor playing/recording guitar10:57
LynoureNo jack sense happening, but at least now (after changing some things in alsamixer when Headphone mode was on) there is now one place where I can change things between headphones and speakers10:57
AptarDo most people use the Konsole for doing stuff?10:58
Joitsome do, i dont10:58
Joitbut i still use the konsole all time again when i want ie run dolphin as root10:59
Aptarapt-get upgrade or apt-get update10:59
Aptaror both?10:59
Aptarheh10:59
mydogsnameisrudyapt-get update first10:59
Aptarok10:59
mydogsnameisrudythen upgrade10:59
Lynourerethus: no, "jack sense" not "jack"10:59
skramer_Aptar: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:59
rethusLynoure: have you installed qjackctl?10:59
Aptarok10:59
rethusthats need to adjust the whole jack-system10:59
Lynourerethus: The ability to plug in headphones and to get build-speakers to mute as the response11:00
rethusk, what i sjack sense?11:00
Lynourerethus: I don't use jack-system at all11:00
Lynourerethus: just the default audio system that comes with Kubuntu11:00
rethusah, i see in google.. jack sense disable audiospeaker, if plug in headphones!?11:01
rethuswhere can i load 11.04 ?11:02
rethusquestion: i read this page (below "Alternate Install CD")11:04
Lynourerethus: FYI, 11 means 2011, .04 means April, there has been two stable releases since11:04
rethusthere 64bit seems only for amd... whats if i upgrade my system to intel i5 or i711:04
rethuscan i not use 64bit anymore in this case11:04
Lynoureand just because I have this problem, does not mean there is necessarily anything wrong with 12.04 for you.11:05
rethusLynoure: yes, but it's a fact, that brand new releases often has minor software-support, or run a bit less stablee11:05
rethusi think this information is wrong - isn't it? Even i7 or i5 intel-cpu could run on 64bit?!11:07
Lynourerethus: it's just called amd64 because what's called i64 is totally different architecture11:11
Lynourerethus: the amd64 works on modern intel just the same11:11
coldfireuse 32bit if you're not sure with you system...it also works on 64bit..11:11
rethusk, i load 12.04 and give it a try11:11
rethusno, i ask for intel i cpu.. but i stiff read a article before one minute, that thos intel-cpus even support 64 bit... i had wonder if not11:12
Peace-?11:12
Lynourerethus: really, I tell you, neither i5 nor i7 are ia64 but they both are amd6411:14
LynoureJust try it :)11:14
rethushow can AMD be intel, i don't understand your answer11:14
Lynourerethus: it's just the name for the architecture, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-6411:18
Lynourerethus: "Historically, AMD has developed and produced processors patterned after Intel's original designs, but with x86-64, roles were reversed: Intel found itself in the position of adopting the architecture which AMD had created as an extension to Intel's own x86 processor line."11:20
LynoureIntel just was not the trailblazer this time.11:20
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sky100i simply cant figure out why some burnt data on a DVD-R is not being detected by the motifier12:02
sky100notifier*12:03
sky100i used k3b as burning tool12:03
sky100no resolution ...........12:03
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BluesKajhi all12:40
mydogsnameisrudyhey BluesKaj12:40
BluesKajhi mydogsnameisrudy12:41
sky100hio BluesKaj12:43
sky100hi*12:43
sky100if i had a good HDD of arnd 500Gb size, i would not have burnt movies ..12:44
sky100i would store them over there12:44
sky100this k3b issue is really bugging12:45
sky100hope this could be burner problem12:46
BluesKajsky100:  do those cds show up on windows ?12:53
sky100the movie burnt on a DVD-R using k3b is not showing up in windows OS as i checked today .. BluesKaj12:55
sky100Bluekaj: which command will show up the DVD drive in kubuntu12:56
sky100in dolphin i just dont find it .. its showing only the partitions of the single HDD i have12:56
BluesKajsudo lshw  will show all devices12:58
sky100will type that in terminal ?12:58
sky100 sudo lshw << this cmd ?12:59
BluesKajthe cdrom won't show up as a partition, look in system settings>removable devices13:00
BluesKajsudo lshw , yes13:00
BluesKajin removable devices , make sure you have a cd or dvd in the drive13:01
sky100ok13:03
BluesKajbrb13:17
ibmi want to get in to kubuntu-fr and also kubuntu-se13:39
ibmhow can i do that to get in to this channels13:40
ibmi want to get in to kubuntu-fr and also kubuntu-se13:42
ibmhow can i do that to get in to this channels13:42
BluesKajibm, type /join #kubuntu-fr then the same for #kubuntu-se , in the server textbox13:42
lucas_i13:43
lucas_hi13:44
ibmbut it does not work it wants me to bee invited13:44
lucas_any one there13:44
ibmBluesKaj but it does not work it wants me to bee invited13:45
ibmi want to get in to kubuntu-fr and also kubuntu-se but it does not work it wants me to bee invited how can i get to this channels13:47
lucas_i need help13:47
lucas_help13:48
ibmi want to get in to kubuntu-fr and also kubuntu-se but it does not work it wants me to bee invited how can i get to this channels13:49
Mitchell92Can someone tell me why they favor kubuntu over linux mint 13?13:51
BluesKaj!polls | Mitchell9213:52
ubottuMitchell92: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.13:52
Mitchell92Thanks BluesKaj. I love the KDE4 interface... I think I'm going to run the kubuntu live disk and try it out.13:53
BluesKajibm, go to #freenode and ask there13:53
Mitchell92BluesKaj: will kubuntu download restricted drivers and content automatically?13:56
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SonicXhow to disable mouse in kubuntu ?14:08
BluesKajSonicX, unplug it , is the only method I know14:11
SonicXBluesKaj:  sorry i meant touchpad14:12
BluesKajSonicX, system settings>input devices>touchpad14:13
SonicXBluesKaj: i dont see any optin to disable it though :|14:17
LynoureSonicX: there is synaptiks14:21
LynoureSonicX: which you can use to automatically disable touchpad when you have an external mouse, or for some time after a keypress14:22
BluesKajSonicX, install synaptiks , it's a small for touchpad and mouse control , also known as "kde-config-touchpad"14:22
BluesKajsmall app14:22
SonicXBluesKaj , Lynoure : thanks :) that helps14:22
BluesKajok , stuff to do ... BBL14:24
SonicXby the way  i installed xserver-xorg-input-synaptics gpointing-device-settings14:27
SonicXand started gpointing-device-settings and switched off touchpad14:27
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saviomy vmware is not working on kernel 3.2.616:00
savioany help?16:00
savioit fails to load vmsock kernel module16:00
malbolgiathere is a patch available16:00
malbolgiaI dont have it at hand16:00
saviocan u provide a link16:00
malbolgiabut just google kernel 3.2 vmware16:00
malbolgiapatch16:01
savioi'm not getting for my ubuntu16:11
saviomalbolgia: ?16:11
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* dougl googling screensaver kubuntu18:12
douglhow do I make my kde taskbar at the bottom of my screen automatically hide on my 12.04 install?19:15
asobikubuntu 12.04 has phone listed under bluetooth but transfer doesn't work. phone doesn't think it's paired19:23
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Amgin-eHas anyone had any trouble with the current Adobe-Flash plugin update19:38
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_juli_как скачивать програмы для linux19:43
_juli_?19:43
phoenix_firebrdkde 4.9 beta 1?19:43
|rapidsp|_juli_: /join #ubuntu-ru19:46
_juli_>>|rapidsp|19:49
ignacioQUESTION: since my last system update (I'm using 12.04 64bits), I can't install wine-1.519:56
ignaciothe system reports always the same:  wine1.5 : Depends: wine1.5-i386 (= 1.5.5-0ubuntu1~ppa1~precise1+pulse17)19:57
ignacioany idea?19:57
douglanyone know how to make the taskbar unhide while running recordmydesktop... is there a hotkey or something?19:59
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MadRabbit320hi all, if I dl kubuntu via bittorrent, are both the cd AND dvd iso's LIVE or is the dvd "INSTALL ONLY"?  thanks!20:15
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yjacketmy kubuntu 12.04 cd has been sitting on a grey screen with a gear and a fake loading bar for 15 min... whats going on?21:45
BluesKajyjacket, did you check the md5sum on the cd after burning ?21:48
BluesKajmight be corrupted21:48
yjacketbefore that, i had reached a gui, and select try kubuntu, which eventually led to a blank screen, and got stuck on the grey screen after restarting...21:49
yjacketi will check the md5sum now BluesKaj21:50
BarkingFishevening all :)  Without me being a total idiot, can someone please remind me how to downgrade a package?22:06
lorddeltaTwo questions: A) easiest way to configure kdm  to start kwin, not metacity, when I login B) easy way to find system crash logs?22:07
BarkingFishI'd imagine the easiest way to get kdm to start kwin instead of metacity, is to take metacity off :)22:08
lorddeltaBarkingFish: Hmm...next easiest way? :-D22:09
lorddeltaI don't want to do that, I have other desktops on here.22:09
lorddeltaBut I use kde the most.22:09
lorddelta...rather annoying to type kwin --replace all the time22:09
BarkingFishnone that I know of, lorddelta - never had to do it, and only been on kubuntu a year - I wouldn't dare suggest anything else without knowing for sure that it would work22:10
BarkingFishhold on a moment, lorddelta - I just had an idea - be back in a second :)22:11
lorddeltaok22:11
BarkingFishbother. I just remembered that kdm has a config file in /etc/init, but that doesn't seem to contain the information I want for you.22:12
BarkingFishI'm just gonna have a look around, I won't be long22:13
Sentynellorddelta: system settings > default applications > window manager22:13
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lorddeltaSentynel: Aha! Thnx. Where does kde store this setting?22:14
lorddeltaI like to know in case I'm on the cmdline22:14
lorddeltaor shell scripting22:14
Sentyneldon't know off the top of my head, sorry22:14
BarkingFishthanks for that Sentynel :)  I was picking through kdm's config files trying to pindown somewhere lorddelta could change that manually22:15
BarkingFishI'm outside of KDE too at the moment, due to some techie issues - I've been terminal only for a day or three now22:16
lorddeltaBarkingFish: yeah, one would think I'd need to change it there too...22:16
lorddeltaWhere I was looking and having just as much luck.22:16
lorddeltakwin is awesome btw. :D22:16
BarkingFishlorddelta: if you change it in the system settings I would think that will update your config file too, you might want to ask #kde where that facility stores the config22:16
lorddeltagood idea22:17
lorddeltaI'm also going to look into a file monitor utility.22:17
lorddeltaSo I can change the setting and see if I can catch it changing a file in .config / .kde22:17
BarkingFishlorddelta: another good idea.22:18
realistic_dragonEvening :-) Does anyone know if there is a (semi-) official VMWare Kubuntu image?22:23
BarkingFishrealistic_dragon: best try #vmware, they'd probably be able to help you :)22:24
lorddeltaOh btw I saw that kde 4.8.4 came out...any word in here about when that'll be ported to kubuntu?22:25
realistic_dragonthanks, will give them a go... if not, then I suppose I should stop being lazy and install it myself :)22:25
lorddeltaI'd install kde myself, but everytime I mix non-sanctioned repos on ubuntu, terrible things happen, lol22:25
BarkingFishlorddelta: I don't know as yet, I think our packaging ninjas are dealing with 4.8.4, but no idea when it's gonna be ready yet22:25
BarkingFishwe only got 4.8.3 a couple of weeks ago22:26
lorddeltawell 4.8.3 is running pretty smooth, can't wait to see 4.8.422:26
yjacketUgh, I was told that if my cd's md5 sum didn't match the one posted on the website, it is corrupted... my first one didn't match so I burned another, but that doesn't match either22:30
yjacket*burned kubuntu 12.04 desktop amd6422:30
lorddeltaBarkingFish: watch -n 1 yourcommandhere22:33
lorddeltayay unix22:33
lorddeltahaven't found anything fancy but that's good enough22:33
realistic_dragoncan't find a good vmware image so I guess I'll give a manual install a go22:34
lorddeltaBarkingFish: ~/.kde/share/config/ksmserverrc : [General] windowManager=kwin22:43
lorddeltaalthough for some reason it updates about 3 other files when I make that single change.22:44
BarkingFishlorddelta: Brilliant :) I'm glad you found it.22:44
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Guest66547Running Kubuntu 12.04  have no sound what so ever. Removed and reinstalled Phonon. Made sure Alsa is installed. I need help. . .23:04
BarkingFishGuest66547: Which backend do you have for phonon?23:08
Guest66547How to I find this out?23:09
BarkingFishin kde, press alt & f2, and type systemsettings, then hit enter23:09
Guest66547Ok . . . .hold on. . . I'll get the info. .. .23:10
BarkingFishwhen you get in there, click Multimedia, then in the next window, click the Phonon tab23:10
BarkingFishand then "Backend" at the top of the page23:10
BarkingFishit will show you under there, whichever backend you have - mine for example, is Gstreamer23:12
Guest66547It shows I've got gstreamer installed23:12
BarkingFishI assume you've checked your volume control, nothing muted in there, etc?23:13
Guest66547All the setting including master are up full bore. . . .23:13
BarkingFishopen kmix and just check underneath the slider, there should be a speaker - if the channel is muted, it will have a red X through it23:13
BarkingFishif not, it'll just show the speaker23:13
Guest66547kmix is fine but the damned sound card is for a GF116 hidef audio controller. . . .I've never heard of this on my system. . . .23:15
lorddeltaGuest66547: try sudo killall knotify423:15
lorddeltaknotify4 is messing my sound up from time to time.23:15
lorddeltaWorks for me.23:15
lorddeltaHave no idea if it will for you.23:16
BarkingFishthe thing which messes my sound up, is pulseaudio23:16
lorddeltapulseaudio works fine for me..23:16
BarkingFishI will guide you through removing that from your system, Guest66547 - just as a test - you can put it back if you wish.23:16
lorddeltabut now and then things decide to run pulseaudio...23:16
lorddeltaand then programs I run can't run sound :P23:17
lorddeltaLike knotify423:17
BarkingFishpress Alt + F2, and type konsole, then hit enter, Guest6654723:17
lorddeltaIt used to be speechd23:17
lorddeltaBut that was my fault23:17
lorddelta>_>23:17
lorddeltaNot sure on the knotify4 yet.23:17
BarkingFishonce you have your terminal open, Guest66547, I want you to type the following:23:18
BarkingFishsudo killall pulseaudio23:18
Guest66547Ok I'm ready23:18
lorddeltaGuest66547: you can check to see if another program is running pulseaudio like this: lsof /dev/snd/*23:18
BarkingFishthen when pulseaudio is stopped - next, you need to cd to your home directory - /home/(whatever your name is)23:19
lorddeltaI wouldn't recommend removing pulseaudio personally. Seems to work fine, and from what I know it does more help than harm generally. BarkingFish what do you use instead? OSS?23:19
BarkingFishalsa, lorddelta - but I run solo without pulseaudio to get full access to my mixer and its channels23:19
BarkingFishGuest66547: are you in your home directory?23:20
Guest66547COMMAND    PID    USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF  NODE NAME23:20
Guest66547pulseaudi 6064 richard   22u   CHR 116,18      0t0 11000 /dev/snd/controlC223:20
Guest66547pulseaudi 6064 richard   23u   CHR 116,18      0t0 11000 /dev/snd/controlC223:20
Guest66547pulseaudi 6064 richard   28u   CHR  116,3      0t0  1539 /dev/snd/controlC123:20
FloodBotK1Guest66547: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:20
BarkingFishGuest66547: are you into your home directory please? :)23:21
BarkingFishif so, we can carry on :)23:21
Guest66547OK. . . .what's next?23:21
BarkingFishnext, you need to type rm -rf .pulse*    then hit enter23:21
lorddelta!pastebinit23:22
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com23:22
lorddelta!pastebinit | Guest6654723:22
ubottuGuest66547: please see above23:22
BarkingFishGuest66547: done that?23:22
Guest66547Hold on. . ..23:23
Guest66547Ok what's next23:24
BarkingFishthen the final step in this is - sudo apt-get install --reinstall alsa-utils23:24
BarkingFish(without the - at the start! :) )23:25
Guest66547alsa-utils have been reinstalled23:27
BarkingFishok, now what I'd like you to do is restart KDE for me.  if you're running IRC in kde, this will cause your client to close - but just reopen it and come straight back when you get in, ok? :)23:28
BarkingFishin your terminal, please type: sudo service kdm restart23:28
BarkingFishhit enter, and we'll see you in a minute :)23:28
BarkingFishlorddelta: as I said, i'm only doing this as a test - I have a hidef soundcard, and pulseaudio kills mine totally23:29
BarkingFishthis is why I run solo with alsa23:30
BarkingFishi've known pulseaudio to mess with HD soundcards to the point of them not even being recognised23:30
richard_did system restart and sudo service kdm restart. . . .23:34
richard_looks .like I'm not Guest66547 anymore. . . .23:34
BarkingFishok, welcome back :)  Right. What I'd now like you to do is to open kmix again, and tell me what channels you have available please.23:34
BarkingFishYou're not, richard_ :)23:35
richard_Ok hold on. .. .23:35
BarkingFishagain, same check - look to see if any are muted, and if any are down, turn them up to maximum please :)23:35
richard_nothing is muted. . . .still shows GF116 Hidef audio controller though. . .23:36
BarkingFishyou know something? I'm stupid.23:36
richard_Well maybe that makes two of us. . ..  .23:37
BarkingFishI really am silly. I forgot the one important step in getting rid of pulseaudio for you.  I forgot to tell you to get rid of it :P23:37
* BarkingFish headdesks23:37
BarkingFishCan you open your terminal again please, richard_ ? I am really sorry about this.23:37
BarkingFishwe switched it off, but didn't remove it from your system :)23:38
richard_No problem. . . ..if I can get it running again I'll be happy. . . .I'd hate to remove the whole system and install Fedora KDE. . . .23:38
GeeksOnHugsshould I install the Nvidia driver from NVidia.com or stick with the existing NVidia binary X.Org driver...my video is not smooth, especially in full screen23:38
GeeksOnHugsI'm trying to install the nvidia driver and it won't run while X server is not running and I can't figure out how to disable X server succesfully...either it just boots back up or it's just a blank screen and I cant do anything23:39
BarkingFishrichard_: ok, once you're in your terminal, do the first two things I told you again - sudo killall pulseaudio, then rm -rf .pulse*23:39
richard_Ok terminal is ready. . . .23:39
richard_Ok that's done.23:40
BarkingFishright, now to the important bit I forgot :)   on your terminal, please type:  sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio23:40
richard_Ok all is removed. . ..23:41
GeeksOnHugsI'll try asking again shortly, I got some hardware to try installing too...be back...if anyone sees this after I'm gone please email response to firrydug at gmail thx23:41
BarkingFishexcellent.  Now just restart KDE again (not the whole system) - sudo service kdm restart23:41
* BarkingFish feels like such an idiot. 23:42
BarkingFishI couldn't find my bottom in daylight with a map and compass :)23:42
BarkingFishhi again richard_ :)23:46
richard_Ok  I'm back. . . .23:46
BarkingFishSorry about before, I'm having a bad night - up to my eyes on diazepam for my back :P23:46
BarkingFishRight, so - let's get to business again :)23:46
BarkingFishplease, would you open kmix, tell me what channels you have, and check for any which are muted, turn up any which are down, etc :)23:47
richard_kmix shows that I've got  IEC958  IEC958 3  ...2 ...4     open with an HDANvidia23:49
richard_all are unmuted. . . . what are these  . . .  .there are no sliders. . .23:50
BarkingFishyou might have other channels which haven't appeared23:50
richard_Ahhhhh hold on I now see something. .  . .I didn't see before. . . .hold on. ..23:51
BarkingFishat the top of the kmix window, click Settings, Configure channels23:51
BarkingFishit might not be showing you all the channels you have available23:51
richard_I now have HDA ATI SD with all the sliders and speakers unmuted. .. .23:52
BarkingFishfantastic :)23:53
BarkingFishNow - can you open your systemsettings again please?23:53
richard_I had two tabs at the top of the screen one was for Nvida and the other for ATI SD ( I believe that's for my on-board sound chipset). . . .23:53
lorddeltaBarkingFish: Hmm, I though alsa meant that you can only run a single audio application at once...23:53
lorddeltaBut I understand what you're saying.23:53
BarkingFishThis is where we start testing your sound card, it sounds like a digital card - which probably means you have got multiple outputs23:54
lorddeltaJust seems it'd be worth it from a software standpoint to be able to listen to multiple things...23:54
richard_Ok  I'll get into system systems . .. .23:54
BarkingFishlorddelta: I can listen to multiple things. I get system notifications from network manager while playing Danish radio via flash over the PC, it's not all that bad23:55
richard_No do I just click on all of the configured boards in system setting and run 'test' to see if there is an audio output?23:56
BarkingFishrichard_: sort of. Under the device preferences section, go to Audio playback and click Music23:57
richard_Ok done that and I've got a dozen sound board options showing. . ..23:57
BarkingFishthen do precisely what you said - start at the first device in the right pane, click it then click the test button to see if you get music. You should hear KDE's startup sound23:57
BarkingFishyou should have at least one marked default23:58
BarkingFishor possibly hw0,023:58
richard_Tested all of them and no sound. . . . .23:59
BarkingFishok, no problem (yet!) :)23:59

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