[00:05] <Minze> always think wth is this again :)
[00:05] <Minze> i usally install it anyway cause i use firefox mainly, but was always curios about the "why"
[00:07] <Minze> same as the reason why lubuntu includes chrome by default, although it is feel/performance-wise slower than firefox :/
[00:07] <Minze> atleast on the main aiming area aka the low-end machines
[00:07] <n1ckn4me09876543> chrome beats ie
[00:08] <n1ckn4me09876543> as in the most use browser in the world
[00:08] <Minze> lol i dont mind about ie, iam comparing ff and chrome
[00:09] <Minze> and chrome doesnt perform as well as firefox on low-end machines
[00:09] <n1ckn4me09876543> http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-weekly-201121-201221
[00:09] <Minze> different story ond mid-class machines where it outperforms firefox
[00:09] <micahg> Minze: I think this changed recently, chromium had a speed advantage for a while
[00:10] <n1ckn4me09876543> lifehacker did a survey on which performs well and opera wins
[00:10] <n1ckn4me09876543> but i tried opera on lubuntu and it seems lubuntu doesnt like opera, it keeps on crashing, atleast on my pc
[00:11] <micahg> opera isn't a default option since it's non-free (and not in the archive)
[00:11] <cleaninstall> is use chrome for day to day stuff, firefox for addons that do stuff i want done, used opera for a long time, dont like its look and feel anymore
[00:11] <cleaninstall> i use that is
[00:11] <cleaninstall> ie for the 3 payment systems or forums that wont work anywhere else
[00:14] <Minze> dont think its quite a good idea to use ie for critical payment services :/
[00:14] <Minze> a bucket full of holes and famous for its leakage
[00:15] <n1ckn4me09876543> i only use firefox when when i want to go behind a proxy like Tor,  (tor browser bundle pack) it comes with ff with add ons and stuff preconfigured is pretty nice
[00:15] <cleaninstall> not my idea, a couple things i use only work in ie, that or nothing
[00:15] <Minze> use chrome for that stuff usally, got the best security-concept so far
[00:17] <Minze> keep it updated atleast, browse to the directly to the url :)
[00:17] <Minze> and browse*
[00:17] <Minze> many drive-bys these day, especially for ie
[00:18] <cleaninstall> one utility bill and one mmorpg only takes paybmet in ie, dont use it for anything else, dont let my kids, or my parents or anyone that will listen
[00:19] <Minze> unbelievable that there are still websites supporting ie only... hopefully it got nothing to do with that silverlight crap
[00:21] <Minze> micahg: regarding stats etc. it is definitelly the no.1 but feel-wise it lacks behind firefox, especially regarding flash-content use on low-end machines (talking about an athlon xp 3000+)
[00:22] <Minze> i mean i dont notice anything on an octocore highend rig, but when it goes into the low-end its quite noticable
[00:23] <Minze> noticeable*
[00:25] <n1ckn4me09876543> yea ff wins when it comes to memory usage- http://lifehacker.com/browser-speed-tests/
[00:35] <cleaninstall> i worked at a place, (about a year ago), still use ie6, id just snicker and keep my mouth shut
[01:42] <Minze> good night everyone!
[05:26] <skiwithpete> hi
[10:11] <leszek> hi
[14:08] <TheWonderingGuru> Hello everyone
[14:09] <TheWonderingGuru> I was wondering. How do I move files from the pictures folder into the default folder for desktop wallpapers in Lubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[14:46] <leszek> hi
[15:12] <esing> my lubuntu said an new ubuntu is there (11.0) , well I use lubuntu and wonder if I can still install the new ubuntu 11.0 components or do i have to worry that my system changes completly from lubuntu to ubuntu 11 ?
[15:51] <leszek> re
[16:11] <GridCube> Hi, im helping an user on #ubuntu-es, thats using lubuntu, and says that even if the screen resolution is correct all the system looks tiny, and if he goes to a smaller resolution everything looks blurry
[16:21] <leszek> GridCube: might be a driver or a dpi issue
[16:21] <GridCube> how to know?
[16:22] <leszek> this is hard to know
[16:22] <leszek> or to figure out
[16:33] <esing> hi
[16:33] <esing> should i use sFTP or samba to share folders within my windows home network ?
[16:34] <esing> i tried samba but it's not working somehow, dunno why :(
[16:38] <GridCube> so guys
[16:38] <GridCube> im pretty sure its a font issue, see http://imagebin.org/215765
[16:38] <GridCube> but that tab doesnt allow him to set the font higher
[16:38] <GridCube> how can this be done?
[16:38] <GridCube> its like he is using a font size 8
[16:44] <leszek> GridCube: it could be an dpi issue
[16:44] <leszek> the default font is set to 10
[16:44] <leszek> he should look in lxappearance what is set as font size there
[16:44] <GridCube> kk
[16:47] <GridCube> he says it says 11
[16:48] <GridCube> so, its there a way to fix the dpi?
[16:53] <leszek> GridCube: in ~/.Xdefaults you can set the dpi
[16:53] <leszek> Xft.dpi: 96
[16:53] <leszek> for example
[16:55] <GridCube> lubuntu's text editor is leafpad correct?
[16:56] <leszek> yes
[16:56] <GridCube> :) thanks
[18:19] <CaerdyddKennie> H
[18:19] <CaerdyddKennie> Hi
[18:19] <CaerdyddKennie> I have an asus eeepc 7g and I run lubuntu precise (12.04)
[18:20] <CaerdyddKennie> Very fine distro and quite happy, but have hit two glitches.
[18:20] <CaerdyddKennie> When I hit the power button nothing happens even though I config'd xfce4-power-manager to bring up a dialgoue.
[18:23] <leszek> CaerdyddKennie: thats because the xfce4-power-manager is meant for xfce4-session and not lxsession so it cannot call the dialog
[18:24] <leszek> CaerdyddKennie: see for example this: http://ppa.launchpad.net/dantti/colord-kde/ubuntu/pool/main/c/colord/colord_0.1.18-1~ppa1.dsc
[18:24] <leszek> ah xD
[18:24] <leszek> wrong link
[18:25] <leszek> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=94516
[18:25] <leszek> here you find a maybe solution
[18:34] <smile> bye :)
[18:38] <yjacket> When ever I try to login to my account, The screen goes black, and just takes me back to the login screen, no incorrect password
[18:39] <yjacket> I can login via console just fine, but the GUI just boots me out
[18:40] <gomiboy> yjacket: check for error massages in ~/.xsession-errors
[18:40] <yjacket> gomiboy: thanks! let me check that...
[18:44] <yjacket> gomiboy: hmm, I am having trouble getting the log file to the guest account...
[18:44] <yjacket> I copied the log file the correct folder in /tmp/guest-... but it isn't showing up
[18:47] <frankcox767> has anybody heard that Linux will not run on Windows 8 boxes?
[18:47] <yjacket> whoops, hold on let me post a link to the log file
[18:47] <yjacket> frankcox767 weren't they going to use a secure boot?
[18:50] <esing> hi
[18:50] <esing> how do I access windows 7 shares from Lubuntu ?
[18:50] <esing> in Ubuntu I do this, but I dont find this in Lubuntu http://www.7tutorials.com/how-access-windows-7-shared-folders-ubuntu
[18:51] <yjacket> I can't open chrome in my guest account to post the log file... :/
[18:51] <yjacket> ... is there any way to enable guest accounts to use chrome via console?
[18:52] <yjacket> screw it, booting off a live disk, brb
[18:52] <frankcox767> yjacket - from what I read RedHat is paying MS but no mention of anyone else.
[18:52] <frankcox767> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/05/31/190217/red-hat-will-pay-microsoft-to-get-past-uefi-restrictions
[18:58] <gomiboy> esing: type in the file manager: smb://WINPCNAME
[18:59] <esing> gomiboy thanks, I already tried that but it always returns to / of the linux machine
[19:05] <esing> maybe I need to install another package?
[19:05] <esing> like smbfs ?
[19:07] <yjacket> gomiboy, here is a link to my log http://pastebin.com/QWrzUTH4
[19:07]  * esing is changing PC's
[19:08] <gomiboy> esing: try with smb:// you should be able to browse the workgroup
[19:16] <CaerdyddKennie> leszek:  Thx for the info.  Is there a way to work around this?
[19:16] <gomiboy> yjacket: is that all? Seems too short to me...
[19:16] <yjacket> gomiboy that all, let me post errors.old?
[19:16] <yjacket> *that's
[19:17] <yjacket> yikes, .xsession-errors.old is 500 kb!
[19:19] <yjacket> ok, erased most of the repeats, posting now
[19:20] <yjacket> gomiboy: http://pastebin.com/KCzMZheV
[19:24] <yjacket> hmm, maybe if I uninstall firestarter? let me hop to another computer so I can get boot into it... brb
[19:28] <esing> gomiboy nope Iam not able to do that :D
[19:28] <esing> besides I wonder if I should chose LXDM or LightDM
[19:28] <esing> (doing the ubuntu 12 update)
[19:29] <yjacket> ok, uninstalled firestarter, no go :/
[19:32] <yjacket> gomiboy: i also installed x11vnc server, ill try uninstalling that one next
[19:33] <yjacket> no go either... let me see if the logs changed at all
[19:37] <gomiboy> yjacket: if i got it right you can log in with another user, so the problem is with your user session, but i can't see anything wrong in the logs, just 'normal' errors/warnings
[19:41] <yjacket> gomiboy: yeah i am in a guest session right now, but i still cant login to my account
[19:44] <yjacket> well what do i do now, reinstall? if i do, ill probably drop down to 11.04 or 11.10
[19:46] <yjacket> and i wonder why chrome doesnt work in the guest account...
[19:46] <gomiboy> yjacket: well, if you don't care much about the configs you have made with you user, you can just make another one instead of reinstall
[19:48] <yjacket> gomiboy: are there .x configs in my user dir? could i copy those from another user?
[19:50] <gomiboy> you mean X11 configs? In that case, no, they are in /etc
[19:51] <yjacket> well what ever is corrupted in my main account's could be copied over... i didnt understand the logs, all it said was it was started
[19:51] <yjacket> *wasnt
[19:54] <yjacket> shouldnt there be another log somewhere?
[20:01] <gomiboy> try this: press ctrl+alt+f1 login with your broken user, type: startx -- :1
[20:01] <gomiboy> yjacket: ^
[20:02] <yjacket> alright, just a sec
[20:02] <gomiboy> and see if you get some tasty error...
[20:07] <yjacket> gomiboy a lot of clutter, then the screen goes black... let me try piping the output to a file
[20:08] <gomiboy> and once black it goes back to the terminal?
[20:08] <yjacket> shoot, let me restart, i can't kill the first one I did, and it locked something...
[20:14] <yjacket> gomiboy: the piped file is blank :(
[20:15] <yjacket> I am going to try transferring my main accounts home folder to another acocunts, and seeing if that account has the same issue
[20:15] <gomiboy> yjacket: the screen stays black? do you see any error in console if you ctrl+alt+f1?
[20:16] <gomiboy> transferring the home folder, will transfer the issue
[20:16] <yjacket> The only thing I can see is "No protocol specified" over and over, until I send Ctrl-C
[20:17] <yjacket> gomiboy: thats what i am trying to find, the problem, so I can replace it with a fresh config
[20:26] <yjacket> well, apparently lubuntu doesn't like it when the main account doesn't have a home folder, and you switch to the gui login screen... :/
[20:35] <AmberJ_> Hello
[20:35] <AmberJ_> Are regexes supposed to work with 'apt-cache search' ?
[20:36] <AmberJ_> Ah, it works...
[20:36] <AmberJ_> 'apt-cache search dev*' works fine .... But 'apt-cache search *dev' outputs error:
[20:37] <AmberJ_> "E: Regex compilation error"
[20:37] <AmberJ_> I'm using Lubuntu 12.04 amd64...
[20:40] <AmberJ_> (in case this has got anything to do with Lubuntu (bug)..
[20:42] <yjacket> according to http://regexpal.com/ "*dev" is not valid, if that helps
[20:42] <yjacket> *AmberJ_
[20:45] <AmberJ_> hmm
[20:50] <yjacket> gomiboy: if I am going to just create a new main account, does that mean I can't delete delete the previous broken one?
[20:51] <yjacket> because in my "test" admin account, I am not a sudoer, and have to enter the broken main accounts password to do gui authentication for applications
[20:59] <yjacket> well, I am going to just install Lubuntu 11.10 over this... what new features did 12.04 have exactly?
[21:22] <esing> hi
[21:23] <esing> can I switch from LXDE easily to unify or gnome? will i have 100% ubuntu if I change my desktop environment or are there also other differences between lubuntu and ubuntu except the desktop environment ?
[22:13] <esing> someone here?
[22:52] <esing> how can I make the taskbar bigger
[22:53] <esing> I cant read it , it is too small
[23:17] <monteleo> bump