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| ohno-lolz | hello tux :D | 10:43 |
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| ohno-lolz | Can I add a wishlist for quantal here and now? | 10:44 |
| cjohnston | I upgraded to quantal, and seem to be having issues.. One is that I'm missing a bunch of drivers, and when I try to install I get an error that says to look in /var/log/jockey.log (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1031845/) and my theme seems to be messed up.. most windows don't look | 11:20 |
| cjohnston | 'polished' | 11:20 |
| cjohnston | any ideas what is causing my issues? | 11:22 |
| WarOfTheNerd | Guys, I heard something in a presentation from SABDFL about +1s now being always usable throughout the development process as a goal | 11:31 |
| WarOfTheNerd | is this true? I'm a power user looking to use Lubuntu 12.10 A1 | 11:31 |
| jtaylor | there are a couple changes that make it better, but you still need experience in solving or working around issues | 11:33 |
| WarOfTheNerd | jtaylor, apart from the one time that a beta foobared glibc I have always been able to fix issues >_> | 11:34 |
| WarOfTheNerd | (and I mean real foobar, as in an instant segfault on every binary) | 11:34 |
| jtaylor | glibc failures are fun :) | 11:35 |
| * penguin42 thinks about upgrading his main machine to qq-alpha - but I see reference to a krunner crash; is that still a problem? | 11:43 | |
| cjohnston | penguin42: the issues I'm having are related to drivers and the theme.. I'm actually wondering, the more that I look if my issues are because of the new kernel | 11:46 |
| penguin42 | cjohnston: It's unusual for a kernel to do something to a theme - what are you seeing? | 11:47 |
| cjohnston | penguin42: additional drivers is showing 5 drivers not installed, (in precise I only ever showed one driver in the list period), when I try to install I get an error message.. the theme looks like http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/sessionshutter002.png/ | 11:54 |
| cjohnston | sorry for the dela | 11:55 |
| cjohnston | y | 11:55 |
| penguin42 | looks like a vanilla gnome/ubuntu theme | 11:56 |
| penguin42 | what are the 5 drivers not installed? | 11:56 |
| cjohnston | PC Speaker Beeper, Intel TCO WatchDog Timer, Broadcom B43, I801 SMBus, Sonics Silicon Backplane | 11:58 |
| cjohnston | penguin42: according to All Settings > Appearance, the theme is Ambiance | 11:59 |
| penguin42 | that's a *weird* set of additional drivers! | 11:59 |
| cjohnston | penguin42: agreed.. ive never seen it before | 12:00 |
| cjohnston | the only thing I have EVER had in the list before is Broadcom | 12:00 |
| penguin42 | I think all of those are just standard kernel driver ones (except possibly the B43 and Sonics Silicon Backplane that I'm not sure about) | 12:01 |
| cjohnston | penguin42: when I tried activating the speaker beep, I got an error which jockey.log shows: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1031845/ | 12:02 |
| penguin42 | that just looks like all of it's debug in figuring out what you have | 12:03 |
| cjohnston | why would it report it as an error | 12:04 |
| penguin42 | probably just a bug or given how early stuff is a load of debug left on | 12:04 |
| cjohnston | i see | 12:05 |
| cjohnston | any idea what the issue with the theme is? since it sounds like that may be the only actual problem I guess? | 12:05 |
| penguin42 | nope; welcome to the world of alphas :-) | 12:06 |
| cjohnston | hehe | 12:06 |
| cjohnston | very true | 12:06 |
| cjohnston | I just want to make sure that its worth staying vs abandoning for a few days | 12:06 |
| cjohnston | all the driver stuff made me a little nervous since I had never seen any of those before | 12:06 |
| penguin42 | cjohnston: alpha-1 is very early - expect stuff to be broken and keep changing | 12:07 |
| cjohnston | penguin42: yup.. the joy.. last cycle I updated the day A1 came out and ran all the way with no major issues | 12:08 |
| penguin42 | cjohnston: That's probably a mix of it being for LTS and to fool you so that you're more gullible for qq :-) | 12:08 |
| cjohnston | lol | 12:09 |
| cjohnston | I need to learn to do testing and such.. atleast help out more since I'm willing to play | 12:09 |
| zniavre | cjohnston, launching the widget factory (twf) in terminal will gives you theme error i think | 12:10 |
| penguin42 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Alpha1 would be a better link for the title wouldn't it? | 12:15 |
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| cjohnston | penguin42: I tried rebooting (since additional drivers said to) and the drivers that I tried to install still aren't installed.. :-/ | 12:42 |
| FernandoMiguel | ewwwww | 13:14 |
| FernandoMiguel | what happened to my X11?? | 13:14 |
| FernandoMiguel | and why is the boot different? | 13:14 |
| FernandoMiguel | I know better than doing upgrades on a Friday | 13:15 |
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| glosoli | where can I check the highlights future plans for 12.10 | 19:10 |
| glosoli | ? | 19:10 |
| penguin42 | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+specs | 19:14 |
| IdleOne | there ya go | 19:15 |
| glosoli | thanks | 19:15 |
| phoenix_firebrd | kde 4.9 beta1? | 19:44 |
| penguin42 | don't think so yet | 20:29 |
| penguin42 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Alpha1 could do with telling people to enable updates to non-LTS | 20:54 |
| penguin42 | do-release-upgrade -d or update-manager -d doesn't do anything without that | 20:55 |
| iceroot | is it a bug or a feature that the auto-mounter is using /run/media/username instead of /media/ for removable devices? | 22:16 |
| iceroot | is that a new standard? or is it just done by ubuntu? | 22:16 |
| iceroot | and if i am correct 12.04 did not have /run just /var/run | 22:17 |
| jtaylor | 12.04 has /run | 22:19 |
| penguin42 | hmm my 12.04 box mounts stuff under /media - although it is an upgrade | 22:32 |
| iceroot | penguin42: yes 12.04 is using /media, 12.10 is using /var/run/username/ | 22:33 |
| penguin42 | the vm I just upgraded to qq is still using /media | 22:35 |
| iceroot | penguin42: unity? | 22:35 |
| penguin42 | yep | 22:35 |
| Trewas | udisks2 apparently moved automagic mounts from /media to /run/media/username | 22:35 |
| jtaylor | makes sense to me | 22:36 |
| iceroot | so you think its a feature not a bug | 22:36 |
| penguin42 | yeh I can't quite remember the reason for /run but it sounded sane at the time I heard it | 22:36 |
| jtaylor | hm that it mounts in run is a bit strange | 22:37 |
| Trewas | it makes sense for systems with multiple users that the removable media is not mounted to the same directory for everyone, why it is under /run is another question | 22:37 |
| iceroot | so /media/username/foobar would be better? | 22:38 |
| iceroot | i thought i am stupid when using cd /media/ TAB TAB TAB... and nothing came up | 22:38 |
| iceroot | only df was showing me that i am searching in the wrong dir | 22:39 |
| penguin42 | iceroot: Was this a fresh install? | 22:39 |
| iceroot | penguin42: no | 22:41 |
| penguin42 | hmm interesting that it seems not to have happened for me | 22:41 |
| iceroot | penguin42: it was an upgrade from 12.04 lubuntu to 12.10 lubuntu | 22:41 |
| penguin42 | iceroot: I'm using an Ubuntu vm here | 22:41 |
| iceroot | strange | 22:42 |
| penguin42 | oh | 22:42 |
| penguin42 | actually it has! | 22:42 |
| penguin42 | iceroot: the vm has a /media/floppy but when I double clicked a cd it mounted as /run/media/dg/mount | 22:43 |
| penguin42 | iceroot: So it has done it as a user specific dir in /run | 22:43 |
| iceroot | penguin42: like my system | 22:43 |
| penguin42 | iceroot: Yeh | 22:43 |
| penguin42 | iceroot: Some of the idea of /run in general is explained here http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/RunDirectory#Overview | 22:44 |
| penguin42 | iceroot: The idea of being able to work with a ro / is nice | 22:44 |
| iceroot | /run replaces several existing locations described in the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard | 22:45 |
| iceroot | like /dev/.* | 22:45 |
| iceroot | writable files under /etc → /run/* | 22:45 |
| penguin42 | yes please don't copy and paste it | 22:46 |
| iceroot | just showing the "highlights" | 22:46 |
| iceroot | seems to be a bigger change with /run | 22:46 |
| iceroot | you have an idea what "writeable files under /etc" means? | 22:47 |
| penguin42 | iceroot: I'm assuming things like resolv.conf | 22:47 |
| iceroot | hm is that a good idea to put that on a tmpfs? | 22:48 |
| iceroot | specially that file | 22:48 |
| penguin42 | iceroot: Well that was just a guess! But it would seem to be for just temporary dhcp recovered stuff | 22:49 |
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