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InHisNamedue to a lack of difinitive scheduling, I'll stay home all day and study cisco materials.00:27
JonathanDandrew: seems not.00:29
JonathanDwe'll do it anohter time.00:29
MutantTurkeyfinally settled in pittsburg03:27
JonathanDMorning.09:22
rmg51Morning10:31
JonathanDHey rmg5110:32
rmg51got to go10:36
rmg51shopping time10:36
waltmanMorning.11:22
JonathanDfosscon up on freenode blog11:23
InHisNameMorning all11:24
JonathanDhowdy InHisName11:24
JonathanDhey waltman11:24
waltmanhey hey11:25
JonathanDHow goes?11:25
waltmanTired. Too much partying this week. :)11:25
InHisNameGoes nicely11:25
JonathanDhaha.11:25
waltmansaw some Drexel friends last night I hadn't seen in a while.11:26
waltmanand @friends' rambunctious 3 year old :)11:26
InHisNameDoctors aren't supposed to be partying, they're supposed to be upright, rigid, a regular person (not a party animal)11:26
waltmanInHisName: You clearly need to watch more TV medical shows. :)11:27
InHisNameTV is false rendering of whatever they're spoofing11:27
JonathanDMASH.11:27
InHisNameLoved it despite the above comment11:27
JonathanDmy printer will be here monday.11:28
JonathanDI need things to print!11:28
JonathanDwaltman: can I print anything for you?11:29
waltmanYes!11:29
waltmanWant to print several copies of my 200 page dissertation on acid-free cotton paper?11:29
JonathanDwaltman: got a xerox phaser 6500 on the way.11:29
* waltman googles11:29
InHisNameDid you actually PAY full price for that printer?   Aren't they x-thousands ?11:30
JonathanDInHisName: newegg had it for $200, it's normally about $40011:31
waltmanInHisName: JonathanD never pays full price for *anything*.11:31
JonathanDAlso fosscon is paying for part of it.11:31
InHisNameblack only ?11:31
JonathanDInHisName: color11:31
JonathanDI print oodles of crap for fosscon at staples for 30 cents a page.11:31
InHisNameWhat's refills cost ?  # copies per ?11:31
JonathanDI thought this would be better.11:31
JonathanDin the long run.11:31
JonathanDInHisName: it's about 16 cents for a color page, if I use xerox supplies, and about 2/3 that if I don't.11:32
waltmanI do, in fact, need to print several copies of my thesis on fancy paper, but I'm planning to do it at Staples or Kinkos.11:32
JonathanDwaltman: how many is several?11:32
waltman30 cents/page11:32
waltmanat least 2, maybe 3.11:32
JonathanDwaltman: 30 cents a page for color.11:32
JonathanDB&W is somehwat less, at staples.11:32
JonathanDI'll check, I noted it yesterday.11:33
InHisNameHey, waltman offer JonathanD 20 cents page and get a deal11:33
waltmanthe pdf has color, but I can get by with b&w11:33
waltmanin fact I believe it *has* to be b&w11:33
waltmanThis is the archival copy that the library gets.11:33
InHisNameThat's the saving spirit !11:33
JonathanDwaltman: 11cents for B&W at staples.11:35
waltmaneven in bulk?11:36
JonathanDMoment.11:36
JonathanDmight be less.11:36
JonathanDhow many pages total?11:36
JonathanD200 x 3?11:37
JonathanD$5411:37
JonathanDso yeah.11:37
JonathanDeven in bulk.11:37
InHisNameThere's self service machines that are lower, but don't know if you can change paper to one you want.11:37
JonathanDInHisName: this price is based on the web-submission thing. straight photocopy might be cheaper.11:37
InHisNamethey might accept memory sticks by now at walk up ones.11:38
JonathanDI don't know what it'll actually be on waltman's special paper.11:38
waltmanI suppose I could print it out on the department's printer...11:38
waltmanyeah, the paper's an issue, too11:39
JonathanDThe one i ordered is supposedly 3.5 cents per page.11:39
JonathanDnot including paper, of course.11:39
JonathanDthats for B&W11:39
JonathanDhttp://www.office.xerox.com/latest/OPBFS-13.PDF11:39
waltmanI have a small laser printer (HP P1006) at home, but it's not really intended for large jobs like that.11:41
InHisNameWow some are as low as 1.7 cents.   Must be the x-thousands priced printers.11:41
JonathanDInHisName: those were outside my budget :)11:41
waltmanthe P1006 is awesome for low-volume jobs though11:41
JonathanDBut I thought 200 was pretty reasonable.11:41
InHisNameone even B&W only 0.9 cents   Phaser 555011:42
JonathanDwaltman: I havea little lexmark E321, but it jams when it gets too hot.11:42
JonathanDwhich is after about 30 pages.11:42
waltmanI mostly use mine for printing out coupons and directions.11:43
JonathanDhttp://www.amazon.com/Compatible-106R01597-106R01594-106R01595-Cartridges/dp/B005FW6AK211:43
JonathanDmy toner.11:43
waltmanI got my printer at Staples for $40 after a sale and a rebate for returning my old broken inkjet.11:44
JonathanD$22 for a black 3,000 pager (non-xerox)11:45
waltmanI'll occasionally print out a PDF, but they're generally <10 pages.11:45
InHisName8 carts $119    3K pages each  for black that's not to bad at all11:45
JonathanDthats 136 pages per $11:46
JonathanDless than a cent per page.11:46
JonathanDI think I'm going to be pretty happy with this thing :D11:46
JonathanDwaltman: let me know if you want to come over here and print :P11:46
waltmannice11:46
waltmanthx11:46
InHisNameThere are other consumables adding into 3.5 cents.   Usually a drum is separate, and theres the paper.11:46
waltmanmaybe you want to give it a nice burn-in :)11:47
JonathanDInHisName: in waltman's case he'll br bringing his own paper anyway.11:47
JonathanDSince he has extra special paper needs apparently.11:47
InHisNameProbably need nearly 2 cents to cover postage, drums, repairs, etc.11:48
waltmanI think I'll just print it on the department printer :)11:48
InHisNameDrums usually need replacing every other cart (6-9K pages)  in low budget office table machines that I've compared before.11:49
waltmanthere wasn't anything about that in the manual for my printer11:49
InHisNameCheck if drum is in cart ?   That would be AWESOME for only $22 each compatible pricing.11:50
JonathanDI can only find reference to a replaceable imaging unit.11:51
InHisNameprobably a drum11:51
JonathanD30,000 page life.11:51
JonathanD10 carts11:51
InHisNameGood deal11:51
InHisNamePrice probably > $100 though.11:52
JonathanDyes11:53
JonathanDit's a lot.11:53
JonathanDbut thats still...11:53
JonathanDlots of pages per $1 :p11:53
InHisNameIf you're hardware inclined many other printers have had ways to reprogram the flash that limits to 3K, 30K back to zero and you can squeeze the rest out until empty or dirty drum starts.11:54
InHisNameWay better'n the brother sold for < $199,   refills were $68 from brother, compatible was high 40's. I think was 2.5k pages or maybe only 2k.11:56
InHisNameblack only11:57
JonathanDI picked this as it seemed suited to long-life of periodic heavy use.11:57
JonathanDand of the 7 reviews on newegg, all were 5 eggs11:57
InHisNameSeems like a good pick11:57
InHisNamePhaser was a real high end company when Xerox bought them from Techtronix11:58
JonathanDEvery single phaser seems to have good reviews.11:59
InHisNameThat's a great sign11:59
JonathanDIt's a lovely world we live in where we can get reviews on the printer, the 3rd party carts, etc, just like that.11:59
InHisNameworks best on high volume products.11:59
InHisNameObscure ones are so well commented even after a year or two on the market.12:00
InHisNames/are/are not/12:00
JonathanDYeah.12:01
InHisNamepause for b'fast12:01
JonathanDit's a shame, then, because I probably won't get those12:01
InHisNameis that sale still going ?12:01
JonathanDon the printer?12:01
InHisNameyes12:01
JonathanDtil june 30 I think.12:01
InHisNameOh12:01
JonathanDwait til I get mine12:01
JonathanDI'll give it a run through.12:01
JonathanDMaybe print a run of walts thing in color for him to keep :P12:02
InHisNameWife hates NON reliable printers, might consider12:02
JonathanDInHisName: it is large. It's mean for an office environ. Just something to consider.12:02
InHisNameink jets clog up to often for her likes.   Especially when I refill carts.12:02
JonathanDI hate ink jets.12:02
InHisNamephaser s have always been large.12:02
JonathanDSO unreliable.12:03
InHisNameI didn't expect $200 worth of parts to be large though.12:03
JonathanDCourse it has no scanner, if thats something you need.12:03
InHisNamehuh  whats "SO unreliable" ?12:03
JonathanD(why are standalone scanner 4x more pricey than cheap MFDs)12:04
JonathanDInHisName: inkjects!12:04
JonathanDinkjets12:04
InHisNamealready got flat bed one.12:04
JonathanDall of them.12:04
JonathanDevery single one :p12:04
InHisNamegot it!12:04
InHisNameGood gravy !!!  Xerox wants $109 for the black cart by itself12:17
JonathanDInHisName: yes. I wouldn't have gotten it if not for the availability of 3rd parties :)12:18
InHisNameI agree12:18
InHisNamewow what a diff12:18
JonathanD$22 vs $100 :P12:19
JonathanDInHisName: keep in mind, xeroxs cost-per-page has to be based on their tonor prices, too12:20
JonathanDgood enough for me to believe actual cost per page is going to be far less.12:20
InHisNameyes for sure12:20
InHisNameStaples has it for $146 ???12:20
JonathanDNever trust staples.12:21
JonathanDInHisName: staples needs to make it expensive enough that you'll use htem for printing instead ;)12:21
InHisNameOne concern,  "High Yield" is used by some carts and Xerox.  Might mean some diff from the plain compatibles.   Still 3K rating though.12:22
InHisNameother compatible sellers are up to $70.  May want to stock up with extras after checking out one batch.12:25
InHisNameSeems list price must be $150 each12:26
JonathanDInHisName: the amazon reviews on the $22 one were solid.12:26
InHisNameStill, I'd buy one set to try.  If happy, order 2 or 3 more sets for future use.12:27
JonathanDyes.12:27
JonathanDI'll order a black right away.12:27
InHisNameJust how long can a cart store waiting to be used without deteriorating ?12:28
JonathanDsince I'll need a bakcup.12:28
JonathanDbtw, the printer has a "black only mode" you can set it in, so it won't complain about no color carts if you run out.12:28
InHisNameI'd order the foursome12:28
InHisNameThat's COOL12:28
InHisName4inkjets.com has them for $25 or $22 @ 3  ----> they note shelf life = 24 - 36 months.12:30
InHisNameNice piece of info12:30
InHisNamewow -->This color laser printer requires 1 Black, 3 Color toner cartridges and 1  Black, 3 Color drum units (Total of 4 toner cartridges & 4 drum  units).12:55
InHisNamelotta micro-chips for cartridge -- http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/106r01597.html12:59
InHisNameHigh Yield = 3K and standard capacity Xerox brand = 1k pages13:03
MutantTurkeyto the zoo!14:23
jedijfJonathanD: i have phaser 4400xt in office (black only) love it!14:34
JonathanDjedijf: cool.14:41
JonathanDThey seem to be very highly regarded everywhere I look.14:41
JonathanDjust cooked up a leftover burger on some toast. Breakfast of champions.14:48
JonathanDdl360s at the thrift store16:12
InHisNamewhat is a 'dl360s' ?16:29
InHisNameone of your 35 cent book bargains ?16:29
JonathanDno16:33
JonathanDan hp rackmount server16:33
SamuraiAlbaGood bacon to all!16:55
InHisNameI could be interested at 35 cents - depending on how much max memory costs16:56
SamuraiAlbawha?16:56
SamuraiAlbaI'm confised16:56
InHisNameu missed JonathanD's comment just before yours16:56
SamuraiAlbaahhhh16:57
SamuraiAlbaGF's mom PC shit the bed yesterday16:57
SamuraiAlbaPSU smoked16:57
SamuraiAlbalost the HD and mobo :(16:58
SamuraiAlbas/mom/mom;s16:58
SamuraiAlbadangit16:58
SamuraiAlbas/mom/mom's16:58
InHisNameShe keeps her PC in her bed ???!!??17:00
JonathanDInHisName: they were a bit more than that :)17:11
JonathanDSamuraiAlba: 16:12:08 < JonathanD> dl360s at the thrift store17:11
SamuraiAlbawhere?17:15
SamuraiAlbacost?17:15
JonathanD$10017:16
JonathanDthrift store in norristown.17:16
SamuraiAlbaHow many!?17:16
JonathanD3.17:16
SamuraiAlbaWho come get me?!17:17
JonathanDgen 3 I think, though.17:17
JonathanDand no disks17:17
JonathanDthe one I popped open had 2GB installed.17:17
SamuraiAlbapoop17:17
JonathanDNever thought I'd see something like that there.17:17
SamuraiAlbaaye17:20
JonathanDSamuraiAlba: I'm bringing home a gen 4 + LTO drive + 24 port GB + pix 50617:21
JonathanDsoon.17:21
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JonathanDoh dear.18:07
* JonathanD provides assistance to Irishmanluke 18:08
InHisNameso is Irishmanluke getting excited about the dl360s ?18:13
IrishmanlukeI meant to do /help nick but I did /nick help instead18:15
IrishmanlukeI wanted to figure out how to change my nick on a specific server18:16
IrishmanlukeI just connected to a second server18:16
InHisNameGoing for a multiple personality disorder on irc ?18:18
Irishmanluke...18:18
andrewafternoon18:19
InHisNameHowdy Doody, andrew18:21
SamuraiAlbaGotta go to Blackwood tomorrow and skip BOTH jobs19:09
SamuraiAlbaCamden Community College swears I attended 2 semesters there, and FAILED all classes.  I never attended, but they have filed to BLOCK financial aid and loans for 2012-2013 and the REVOKATION of my aid for 2011-201219:10
SamuraiAlbaMind you, this is my FIRST communication with them since I WITHDREW before classes even started in 201119:10
SamuraiAlbaand I have the withdrawl forms19:11
InHisNameGood that you hung onto the withdrawal forms.21:19
andrewYou were supposed tot turn the forms in...21:36
SamuraiAlbaI did21:36
InHisNameI assume what you really meant was they gave you a receipt or confirmation of withdrawal, that's what you kept.21:39
SamuraiAlbayup22:28
MutantTurkeyyup22:28
MutantTurkeyjedijf: go to pittsburg, get ikea, ??? profit22:28
InHisNameWhy go to pitts?  There are Ikea s here.22:29
MutantTurkeyI happened to be here22:31
MutantTurkeywent to the zoo as well22:31
MutantTurkeyAquarium was not as cool as I thought it would be22:31
InHisNameSo the aquarium was a tropical one, very HOT. not cool?22:36

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