[13:13] <wgrant> lifeless: Is there a tarball for testresources 0.2.5 somewhere?
[13:14] <wgrant> It's apparently released, but I see no files.
[13:32] <lifeless> wgrant: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/testresources
[13:35] <wgrant> lifeless: Ah, thanks.
[14:21] <lifeless> wgrant: np
[16:15] <jml_> anyone around?
[16:22] <jelmer> hey jml_
[16:24] <lifeless> jml_: FSVO
[16:24] <jml_> lifeless: thanks. following up w/ jelmer
[23:17] <lifeless> anyone around ?
[23:17]  * lifeless needs to double check a small zcml/zope thing
[23:17] <lifeless> specifically, how can I be sure a template is not being used ?
[23:19]  * mwhudson waves
[23:19] <mwhudson> lifeless: grepping for the template name should work i think?
[23:19] <lifeless> is just grepping on the configured name from the zcml sufficient ?
[23:19] <lifeless> e.g. lib/lp/answers/templates/questiontarget-portlet-latestquestions.pt is what I was looking at (which I found a use) - but the template name is not what is referenced :)
[23:19] <lifeless> yay indirection
[23:20] <mwhudson> i guess it can be pretty hard to tell
[23:22] <mwhudson> that template is pretty clearly used though
[23:22] <lifeless> indeed
[23:22] <lifeless> it is one of the culprits using memcache.
[23:25] <lifeless> (not that I object to memcache in principle, but its not being very helpful today
[23:25] <lifeless> low hit rate, some inappropriate uses, and we're not using it for *scale* we're using it for performance, which entirely misses the point of random access usage patterns.
[23:26] <mwhudson> yes
[23:30] <lifeless> yay, huge list of conflict :(
[23:31] <lifeless> oh, and no invalidation protocol
[23:31] <lifeless> so, lots of repeated user confusion