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[05:00] <Ormie> Can I suggest something for the next version?
[05:01] <Ormie> Please! I have idea.
[05:01] <Ormie> ...
[05:04] <Ormie> hello?
[05:04] <Ormie> Can I suggest something for the next version?
[05:05] <Ormie> :(
[05:06] <Ormie> I want NO Unity on ubuntu 12.10!
[05:06] <Ormie> I don't like unity!
[05:06] <Ormie> And others don't like it
[05:06] <micahg> Ormie: you're free to use another DE
[05:07] <Ormie> it's not stable
[05:07] <micahg> it's quite stable
[05:07] <micahg> if you have bugs, please file them
[05:07] <Ormie> Oh and more to think about
[05:07] <Ormie> Windows users would prefer the original gnome 3 interface.
[05:07] <Ormie> why?
[05:08] <Ormie> Because GNOME 3 interface is similar to Windows
[05:08] <Ormie> And you know wut?
[05:09] <Ormie> Windows users who have never used linux before (there are many of them), They will see ubuntu as linux, because ubuntu is popular.
[05:09] <Ormie> So it means, they misunderstood
[05:10] <Ormie> and they will never use linux again. and back to microsuck windblows
[05:10] <Ormie> For Mac users is fine, though
[05:10] <Ormie> Think about it.
[05:11] <Ormie> AND!
[05:11] <Ormie> Windows users always use GUI interface.
[05:12] <IdleOne> This channel is not for blogging about your personal opinions on Unity
[05:12] <Ormie> ?
[05:12]  * Ormie is scared of IdleOne
[05:12] <IdleOne> Don't know why you would be
[05:12] <Ormie> gah! what a nightmare
[05:13]  * micahg hugs IdleOne
[05:13] <IdleOne> :)
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[13:05] <EagleScreen> hi
[13:06] <EagleScreen> I have heared that Ubuntu will drop jockey and replace it with some other tool, do you know somehting about this?
[13:06] <penguin42> I saw a mention of something similar in one of the blueprints yesterday
[13:07] <penguin42> ah, here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-q-third-party-driver-installation
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[14:29] <BluesKaj> Hiyas folks
[14:31] <penguin42> hey
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[14:46] <penguin42> so, are there any interesting changes in Quantal so far - I can't see any obvious ones in my VM
[15:20] <Daekdroom> !daily
[15:20] <ubottu> Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[15:23] <scotty^> Hi all.
[15:24] <scotty^> Will the xserver-xorg-video-ati package in Quantal be updated soon to one based on at least 6.14.4, and preferably 6.14.5?
[15:24] <scotty^> This will allow for testing of AMD "Trinity" APU's.
[15:24] <penguin42> scotty^: You might be better asking on #ubuntu-x
[15:25] <penguin42> scotty^: It's also worth trying the xorg-edgers package if you want bleeding edge
[15:25] <scotty^> I was hoping to avoid xorg-edgers :)
[15:26] <scotty^> Although I have used it before.
[15:55] <Daekdroom> Oh wow. I'm installing Quantal in a VM. My first time using alternative and it's surprisingly friendly.
[16:33] <FernandoMiguel> # dpkg-reconfigure -a
[16:33] <FernandoMiguel> *** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/perl: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x00000000027b6680 ***
[16:33] <FernandoMiguel> ======= Backtrace: =========
[16:33] <FernandoMiguel> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x7e626)[0x7f2aaaefc626]
[16:33] <FernandoMiguel> erkkk
[16:36] <penguin42> oops, breaking perl is never nice
[18:01] <FernandoMiguel> $ google-chrome
[18:01] <FernandoMiguel> /usr/bin/google-chrome: error while loading shared libraries: libcups.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:01] <FernandoMiguel> uhh
[18:01] <FernandoMiguel> I'm out of ideas :\
[18:02] <penguin42> odd
[18:02] <FernandoMiguel> tell me about it
[18:03] <FernandoMiguel> I've been fighting CUPS probs for a month
[18:03] <FernandoMiguel> I've purged it, reinstalled, made sure metapackages where there...
[18:03] <FernandoMiguel> and now chrome complains
[18:03] <penguin42> for me that's in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/
[18:05] <FernandoMiguel> :/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu$  ll | grep cups
[18:05] <FernandoMiguel> -rw-r--r--   1 root root 326K Mai 23 14:19 libcups.so.2
[18:05] <FernandoMiguel> stupid google
[18:07] <penguin42> yep
[18:07] <FernandoMiguel> open("/opt/google/chrome/libcups.so.2", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[18:07] <FernandoMiguel> found it!
[18:07] <FernandoMiguel> it's missing a symlink
[18:11] <FernandoMiguel> erk....
[18:11] <FernandoMiguel> I have the 32 bits version, not the 64
[18:11] <FernandoMiguel> chrome won't take that
[18:25] <FernandoMiguel> penguin42: $ mlocate libcups.so.2
[18:25] <FernandoMiguel> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcups.so.2
[18:25] <FernandoMiguel> what has yours?
[18:25] <Daekdroom> Installing Quantal in my VM is taking longer than I expected, despite using alternate.
[18:25] <FernandoMiguel> I have both libcups2:i386 and libcups2
[18:31] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: My quantal VM is 32bit only
[18:31] <FernandoMiguel> real men, run it in real metal :)
[18:31] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: Yeh maybe next week - I always try it in a VM first
[18:33] <FernandoMiguel> I wish it was easier to revert a package like cups :(
[18:36] <penguin42> nothing that enough --force's can't fix :-)
[18:40] <FernandoMiguel> sudo ionice -c3 zsync -i /boot/quantal-desktop-amd64.iso -o ~/quantal-desktop-amd64.iso http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/quantal-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:40] <FernandoMiguel> reinstall time
[18:51] <Daekdroom> Well.. It looks like there isn't much new in Quantal yet.
[18:56] <penguin42> Daekdroom: The stuff under the covers is the bigger changes I guess - it's got Gcc 4.7 in there and udisks2
[18:56] <Daekdroom> and new libboost.
[18:56] <Daekdroom> But those things I'm unable to notice.
[19:17] <BluesKaj> Kwin is broken, segfaults as soon as I login
[19:18] <BluesKaj> and so is the begreporter :)
[19:22] <BluesKaj> er bugreporter
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[21:18] <BluesKaj> the latest updates/upgrades broke Kwin , segfaults after the login