[01:20] <stlsaint> room poke
[01:22] <LinXz> wrong chat window; try Facebook...
[01:25] <stlsaint> LinXz: ha good one
[03:47] <dizzylizzy> hmm
[03:47] <dizzylizzy> i have not used ubuntu in almost a year, how is 12.04?
[03:47] <dizzylizzy> stability-wise
[04:07] <stlsaint> dizzylizzy: stable
[04:07] <stlsaint> even lts worthy stable
[04:14] <dizzylizzy> excellent :)
[05:52] <purchaser_>  Hello! I have a CPU/Memory question: I would like this cpu: Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Mobile Processor i7-3610QM (2.30GHz) 6MB. The memory I would get for it would be 16GB SAMSUNG 1333MHz SODIMM DDR3 MEMORY (4 x 4GB).
[05:53] <purchaser_> Here is my question: would it be very much a good idea to change to memory to: 16GB SAMSUNG 1600MHz SODIMM DDR3 MEMORY (2 x 8GB)
[05:54] <purchaser_> or even 32GB SAMSUNG 1600MHz SODIMM DDR3 MEMORY (4 x 8GB)
[05:54] <stlsaint> hey
[05:55] <stlsaint> purchaser_: why change?
[05:55] <purchaser_> for a new laptop
[05:55] <purchaser_> thank you stlsaint
[05:56] <purchaser_> which speed does the cpu work at? I want the memory to be in synch with the speed of the processor
[05:57] <stlsaint> wouldnt it be 2.30Ghz?
[05:58] <purchaser_> that is what i was thinking, but i don't know if it is that simple
[05:58] <stlsaint> well your memory isn't going to be utilized until its needed so how can you compare ram speed against cpu? maybe im missing something. Been awhile since took A+
[05:59] <purchaser_> I am at the moment most concerned about the speed of the memory. I am not really focusing on the quantity of memory i need right now.
[06:00] <purchaser_> Only very few applications would ever need so much memory at the moment, perhaps virtualization applications like VirtualBox
[06:02] <stlsaint> true
[06:02] <stlsaint> and a bunch of open tabs in browser
[06:02] <purchaser_> I had about 20 open tabs in my browser and it wasn't even using one gigabyte of memory
[06:07] <stlsaint> with 20 tabs plus IRC im at 45% ram use of 4gb
[06:18] <benonsoftware> 3 tabs use all of my 2GB of RAM
[06:18] <stlsaint> lol
[06:18] <stlsaint> thats not good
[06:19] <benonsoftware> Well 1.75GB of RAM
[07:13] <HiddenSanity> So... newbie question time! I want to download a free program, they have windows and mac versions, but for linux they just provide the source code and tell you to compile it yourself(for now).  This a reasonably easy feat? I downloaded the latest QT as it was said I'd need at least QT4.6
[07:20] <JoseeAntonioR> HiddenSanity: So, what are you trying to compile again?
[07:21] <HiddenSanity> Cockatrice
[07:21] <JoseeAntonioR> HiddenSanity: Have you already extracted the code in a folder in your home folder?
[07:21] <HiddenSanity> Yes.
[07:22] <JoseeAntonioR> HiddenSanity: Please, open a Terminal and cd to the directory.
[07:25] <HiddenSanity> I'm afraid I'm gonna need to learn that, too...
[07:25] <HiddenSanity> Is it just CD [path]?
[07:26] <JoseeAntonioR> HiddenSanity: Yes, with cd in not-capital letters.
[07:26] <JoseeAntonioR> s/not/non
[07:29] <JoseeAntonioR> Once you have, issue "/.configure" and then "make && sudo make install", both without quotes.
[07:29] <HiddenSanity> Err... so terminal command should look like: cd /home/folder/folder?
[07:30] <JoseeAntonioR> HiddenSanity: or just "cd ~/foldernamewhichisinhome/"
[07:31] <HiddenSanity> Ah...
[07:32] <HiddenSanity> Does the '&&' represent something? Or is that literally what I issue?
[07:32] <JoseeAntonioR> HiddenSanity: Literally
[07:33] <HiddenSanity> Hmmm... and the '/.configure' doesn't seem to work literally entered, some idiot mistake I'm making there?
[07:34] <HiddenSanity> bash: /.configure: no such file or directory
[07:36] <JoseeAntonioR> HiddenSanity: Then skip it.
[07:36] <JoseeAntonioR> I'm sorry, but I have to leave now.
[07:36] <HiddenSanity> Thank you.
[07:37] <HiddenSanity> I'm trying to start learning this stuff on my own, but I kinda want it working soon.
[07:38] <LinXz> HiddenSanity: I've been learning "this stuff" for some years now - be patient; we won't be specialists in a hurry. ;)
[08:07] <dizzylizzy> what
[08:07] <dizzylizzy> you kidding
[08:08] <dizzylizzy> it's not /.configure
[08:08] <dizzylizzy> that would try to run a file named .configure in the root directory
[08:08] <dizzylizzy> you want ./configure which would run the file 'configure' in the current directory
[08:08] <dizzylizzy> HiddenSanity, yeah
[08:09] <dizzylizzy> :P
[08:10] <HiddenSanity> What's better to do instead?
[08:10] <dizzylizzy> ./configure
[08:10] <dizzylizzy> if you get any errors I can probably help with that too
[08:11] <dizzylizzy> by the way, if the program requires Qt, and you are compiling from source, you won't just need to install Qt
[08:12] <dizzylizzy> installing libqt4 will only give you the runtime libraries, to compile with Qt support you will also need libqt4-dev
[08:12] <dizzylizzy> packages with the -dev at the end are used for compiling programs with those things, usually
[08:12] <dizzylizzy> don't forget to install "build-essential", which you will need to copmile just about anything
[08:13] <HiddenSanity> Ah, thank you.
[08:13] <dizzylizzy> i would not be surprised if, even after installing those things, you run into some errors when running "./compile" in the directory you extracted the source to
[08:14] <dizzylizzy> lemme know if anything pops up
[08:15] <HiddenSanity> There doesn't seem to be a make file or anything named configure... I may just be placing myself wrong, though.
[08:15] <HiddenSanity> I might try the cockatrice forums and site more, see if there's anything there.
[08:18] <HiddenSanity> I've tried to cd myself to a few different directories that look promising, including the pre-folder and the main folder it gave me...
[08:18] <HiddenSanity> Hmm... maybe I'll try again in 'src'
[08:19] <LinXz> what did you download HiddenSanity? Perhaps you have a Mac version? (shot in the dark here...)
[08:19] <dizzylizzy> HiddenSanity, it looks like somebody already filed a "bug" to get it built for ubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/getdeb.net/+bug/991126
[08:19] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 991126 in getdeb.net "[Create Package] Cockatrice" [Medium,Fix committed]
[08:19] <dizzylizzy> wow the source code is not very easily compmiled... looking at it now
[08:20] <HiddenSanity> Ah... so I picked a nice one for my first try at it.
[08:24] <dizzylizzy> i'm just trying to figure out what build system they're using
[08:26] <HiddenSanity> Ah well, thank you, I think I'll look into more info on this, then.
[08:26] <dizzylizzy> well that's frustrating
[08:26] <HiddenSanity> But for now, I'll retire, but thanks for trying to help.
[08:26] <dizzylizzy> It appears like they're using KDevelop
[08:26] <dizzylizzy> it's in the repos
[08:27] <dizzylizzy> you can open that folder as a kdevelop project
[08:27] <dizzylizzy> :-/ as much as I'll be able to help i'm afraid
[10:37] <r4y> How do I use Ubuntu to get music onto this phone?: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/allQuestion.do?prd_mdl_name=SCH-R720
[12:08] <LinXz> Can I have a peronal opinion on this channel?
[12:27] <oCean> LinXz: you can have your own opinions, also about other operating systems, but the Ubuntu channels are not a platform to force your opinions on others.
[12:28] <oCean> having said that, #ubuntu-offtopic welcomes constructive discussion on a wide variety of topics. Guidelines apply there also
[12:45] <^zenyhooubby-it> hi!
[12:51] <^zenyhooubby-it> Do you know how upgrade from ubuntu 10.04 to 12 directly?
[12:52] <^zenyhooubby-it> I already did it from 8.04 to 10.04 but now I don't see that option anymore...
[12:56] <^zenyhooubby-it> can you help me please? :)
[12:57] <Sidewinder1> !ask
[12:57] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[13:03] <^zenyhooubby-it> I want to install ubuntu 12 but the live-usb gives an error message: update firmware drivers etc. from a website. Is it quick to do this?
[13:09] <wilee-nilee> ^zenyhooubby-it the official update for the 10.04 to 12.04 is not available yet, I believe it will be sometime in july, you can force a upgrade but I am of no help with that.
[13:25] <^zenyhooubby-it> back...
[13:28] <^zenyhooubby-it> As I sad before, when I boot ubuntu 12 live-usb, it retrieve an error message of "b43 firmware file not found". I gone to the website writen by the message, http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/b43#devicefirmware, but the page does not exist! any help?
[13:29] <holstein> ^zenyhooubby-it: i would just install, and i would get that firmware later
[13:29] <holstein> i have just ran "sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer" before
[13:29] <^zenyhooubby-it> hello holstein!
[13:30] <holstein> you can always refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[13:30] <^zenyhooubby-it> but it can't install because it says this error
[13:33] <^zenyhooubby-it> so I just have to do that command in terminal now, reboot live-usb and installation will be fine?
[13:33] <holstein> you cant "reboot" a liveUSB
[13:33] <holstein> it'll just reset
[13:33] <holstein> you *might* be able to use the live CD after installing that firmware
[13:34] <holstein> if it were me, i would just install to that USB stick, putting grub on there
[13:34] <holstein> then, i would add whatever firmware, drivers, or software i want, and have myself a customized USB installation
[13:37] <^zenyhooubby-it> I don't understand... I created a live-usb because cd drive is broken. isn't it good?
[13:38] <holstein> ^zenyhooubby-it: sure.. you are asking for changes to be saved in an environment where changes cant be saved
[13:39] <holstein> live CDs or USB are just that... LIVE.. to make changes "persistent" takes some special steps... i would just install to the USB stick if you want a live USB stick with persistent storage, or search around about persistent USB's
[13:39] <holstein> if you are just trying to install the firmware prior to installing as a test, i would just go ahead and install and grab that firmware afterwards from the installation with a wired connection
[13:40] <^zenyhooubby-it> I forgotten to say: now I am on ubuntu 10 installed on pc, not live-usb
[13:41] <holstein> ^zenyhooubby-it: 10.04? 10.10? that guide i linked should apply to most broadcom harware in any version
[13:41] <^zenyhooubby-it> 10.04
[13:41] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[13:42] <holstein> you can always search for "restricted drivers" in the system menu and let the GUI do it
[13:42] <holstein> you wont be able to add the firmware if you arent connected to the internet... there are work-arounds at that page i linked if you cant temporarily wire the machine up to wired internet
[13:49] <^zenyhooubby-it> Thank you! but I looked at http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43/devices and there isn't my laptop model 3630! so?
[13:50] <holstein> ^zenyhooubby-it: laptop model doesnt matter, its the chipset of the wifi device
[13:50] <^zenyhooubby-it> ok
[13:50] <holstein> ^zenyhooubby-it: there are directions on determining the chipset at that wiki page i linked
[13:51] <^zenyhooubby-it> yes terminal
[13:54] <^zenyhooubby-it> ok I have an bcm4318 [14e4:4318*
[13:55] <^zenyhooubby-it> it seems it is supported
[13:56] <holstein> ^zenyhooubby-it: yes.. as best as it can be, it is
[13:56] <holstein> ^zenyhooubby-it: someone has reverse engineered a driver or 2 for you
[13:57] <^zenyhooubby-it> cool :D
[13:57] <^zenyhooubby-it> so we
[13:57] <^zenyhooubby-it> weird
[13:57] <holstein> yeah?... broadcom only recently started supporting linux
[13:59] <holstein> your harware predates that, so you need to install some software that cannont be included in the kernel, or in ubuntu by default
[14:03] <^zenyhooubby-it> but my internet connection works fine now, doesn't it will stop it? Why I have to do all this work only for install ubuntu 12?
[14:04] <holstein> ^zenyhooubby-it: im not following you
[14:04] <holstein> ^zenyhooubby-it: i would just download the 12.04 iso
[14:04] <^zenyhooubby-it> yes I did
[14:04] <holstein> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[14:05] <holstein> ^zenyhooubby-it: ok.. just install that then, the proceedure for installing the firmware in 12.04 will be similar, if not more automatci
[14:05] <holstein> automatic*
[14:06] <^zenyhooubby-it> yes I want but the problem is that error message that don't let me to continue
[14:06] <^zenyhooubby-it> sorry if I don't explained well
[14:07] <holstein> ^zenyhooubby-it: i have not seen an error message
[14:08] <holstein> seems to me, you wer running 12.04 live, and wanted to save the firmware in it... you cant
[14:08] <holstein> you'll need to just install 12.04, then install the firmware just as you did to get 10.04 supporting the broadcom chip
[14:08] <holstein> ^zenyhooubby-it: maybe a more localized #ubuntu-* support channel?
[14:10] <^zenyhooubby-it> the message is "b43 firmware file not found" etc. I understand, but I can't install because it don't let me continue, nor I see the menu...
[14:10] <holstein> ^zenyhooubby-it: that is not the name of the file any more
[14:10] <holstein> ^zenyhooubby-it: in that guide i linked you, the instructions are different for 11.10 and above
[14:10] <^zenyhooubby-it> "ucode5.fw
[14:12] <holstein> ^zenyhooubby-it: firmware-b43-installer is the name
[14:12] <holstein> sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[14:12] <holstein> from within the 12.04 install... and you can try that live
[14:13] <^zenyhooubby-it> how can I type the command within the install?
[14:13] <holstein> ^zenyhooubby-it: i would just literally open a terminal and go for it
[14:13] <^zenyhooubby-it> hold shift?
[14:13] <holstein> ^zenyhooubby-it: i need to run, but i assure you, after you install 12.04, you can get support for that hardware, just as you do in 10.04
[14:14] <holstein> ^zenyhooubby-it: i would just do it from the menu
[14:14] <holstein> ^zenyhooubby-it: from a terminal in the install, *after* you install 12.04
[14:15] <^zenyhooubby-it> unluckly I can't install... that error blocks it...
[14:16] <^zenyhooubby-it> but thank you, I think to have understand
[14:51] <^zenyhooubby-it> thank you very much holstein :)
[14:51] <^zenyhooubby-it> sorry for bad explaination
[15:09] <^zenyhooubby-it> is there a log of this channel?
[15:11] <Sidewinder1> ^zenyhooubby-it, Many of the ubuntu core channels are logged, please see here: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/06/10/
[15:13] <^zenyhooubby-it> thanks
[15:13] <^zenyhooubby-it> still here holstein?
[15:31] <^zenyhooubby-it> hi again :)
[15:32] <^zenyhooubby-it> can I still update from 10.10 to 11.04?
[20:11] <dhaval> i have installed IDLE. how do i run a python script in there? complete noob here.
[20:18] <ntwrk_keith> in idle
[20:18] <ntwrk_keith> you can do line by line
[20:19] <ntwrk_keith> and it will interpret the lines as u enter them
[20:19] <ntwrk_keith> damnit :(
[21:44] <vinnie_> hi folks!
[21:45] <stlsaint> vinnie_: hello
[21:46] <vinnie_> hi stlsaint - much happenin on here to night
[22:03] <stlsaint> vinnie_: well its 5pm for me so not night just yet
[22:04] <vinnie_> ah ok -its 10pm here!
[22:04] <dragongate> hello
[22:04] <stlsaint> hey
[22:05] <dragongate> can anyone help me?
[22:05] <vinnie_> hi dragongate
[22:05] <fc> Hello, anyone want to help a first time ubuntu user :P
[22:05] <tenach> Greetings.
[22:05] <stlsaint> !ask
[22:05] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[22:06] <stlsaint> dragongate: ^^
[22:06] <dragongate> Error occurred during initialization of VM Could not reserve enough space for object heap Could not create the Java virtual machine.
[22:06] <dragongate> my problem :S
[22:06] <dragongate> Any idea?
[22:06] <fc> Well, I just installed it for the first time, and my wireless is not working. How do I get that working?
[22:07] <stlsaint> dragongate: how much free space do you have on your computer?
[22:07] <dragongate> my pc or linux vps?
[22:07] <stlsaint> fc: what is wireless card model?
[22:07] <stlsaint> dragongate: are you on a home system or remote vps?
[22:08] <fc> centrino wireless n + wimax 6150, if I'm not mistaken.
[22:08] <dragongate> im using ssh secure shell to connect my vps which i baght for 1 month
[22:09] <dragongate> *baught
[22:09] <stlsaint> dragongate: nested virtualization is not possible
[22:09] <stlsaint> fc: run this command: lspci | grep Wireless
[22:09] <stlsaint> though network will give same result
[22:09] <dragongate> which means?
[22:10] <stlsaint> dragongate: dont try and run a virtual machine on a vps
[22:10] <dragongate> :S
[22:10] <stlsaint> dragongate: what are you wanting to do?
[22:10] <fc> Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N + WiMAX 6150 (rev 67)
[22:10] <dragongate> so complicated
[22:10] <dragongate> well this is first time i trying to add server to vps
[22:10] <stlsaint> fc: please paste all output, including numbers at begining of it
[22:11] <dragongate> and i need compile my java source
[22:11] <stlsaint> dragongate: what type of server?
[22:11] <dragongate> Runescape
[22:11] <fc> 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N + WiMAX 6150 (rev 67)
[22:11] <stlsaint> dragongate: game?
[22:12] <dragongate> yeah runescape private server and i need to compile source couse otherwise source doesnt recocnize run ;P
[22:13] <stlsaint> fc: i think you need to blacklist module. give me one sec
[22:13] <stlsaint> fc: what release are you on?
[22:13] <stlsaint> dragongate: compile whole server from source?
[22:14] <dragongate> well that's what im trying to doo!
[22:14] <fc> I'm on 12.04.
[22:15] <stlsaint> fc: what is make and model of computer
[22:15] <stlsaint> dragongate: what guide are you using?
[22:17] <stlsaint> ??
[22:17] <fc> Asus U56E
[22:17] <stlsaint> fc: acer?
[22:17] <dragongate> actually i asked for help , and one guy helped me.. the thing hes off and i cant ask him
[22:17] <dragongate> :S
[22:17] <stlsaint> dragongate: o_O
[22:17] <dragongate> (sorry for bad grammar)
[22:18] <stlsaint> fc: you know how to use program nano?
[22:19] <fc> Never even heard of it, honestly. I'm sorry for being such a noob at this, and I greatly appreciate all your help.
[22:21] <tenach> fc, no need to apologize; we were all noobs at one point :)
[22:22] <stlsaint> dragongate: i suggest finding a guide on private servers for that game
[22:22] <stlsaint> dragongate: why compile game? Seems you can play online on main servers
[22:22] <stlsaint> fc: open a terminal
[22:22] <stlsaint> fc: enter command: cd /etc/modprobe.d/
[22:23] <stlsaint> fc: enter command: gksudo gedit blacklist.conf
[22:23] <stlsaint> fc: you there?
[22:23] <vinnie_> what i have done with wireless cards that don't work is to remove the card and swop it for one that will defo work - v easy to do -just one solution -perhaps regard it as a last resort...
[22:23] <fc> Yes, I'm there.
[22:24] <stlsaint> fc: make sure you remember how to remove this one line in case this does not work.
[22:24] <fc> Okay, will do.
[22:24] <stlsaint> fc: in that file you opened at the very bottom enter make a space and enter this: blacklist acer_wmi
[22:25] <stlsaint> fc: save, close, reboot. If wireless works....your welcome....if not than remove that line and reboot and come back here
[22:25] <fc> So, go to the bottom line, hit enter, and put that in?
[22:26] <stlsaint> fc: at the bottom of that file, hit enter so the blacklist command has a space above it from the other text
[22:26] <stlsaint> dragongate: ?
[22:26] <vinnie_> sorry to butt in  just a quickie: what is the + at the end of: c r w - r w - - - - + and how would i add it..
[22:26] <stlsaint> vinnie_: how long you been a linux user?
[22:27] <fc> So make sure there is a blank line above it? Because at the bottom I have another blacklist command. I'm probably making this more complicated then it needs to be so sorry.
[22:27] <vinnie_> hi stlsaint - actually since 2008 - but only command line in the last 2 months!
[22:27] <dragongate> sorry man i was afk
[22:28] <stlsaint> fc: yes, make sure there is a space between the blacklist input already there and the one i gave you
[22:28] <stlsaint> vinnie_: ah, well we try and refrain from making the user replace hardware. Key notion with linux ;)
[22:29] <stlsaint> vinnie_: and what is this c r w you speak of cause it sounds like the permissions listing but there is no C permission
[22:29] <vinnie_> oh apologies about that so...
[22:30] <fc> Okay, I'll be back
[22:31] <vinnie_> is c driver, its for video, a web cam
[22:32] <vinnie_> i'll adopt that principle from now on re-hardware
[22:32] <stlsaint> vinnie_: still no idea what your talking about
[22:34] <vinnie_> are you familiar with zoneminder i'm having a bit of trouble getting it working and i think its just a matter of changing permissions for the web camera
[22:35] <stlsaint> vinnie_: nope, sorry
[22:37] <vinnie_> i've installed it on my laptop and its working with permissions for video0 crw-rw - - - - + 1 root, but on a server installation it won't work and the permissions is crw-rw - - - -  1 root and it wont work...
[22:38] <vinnie_> there is no + at the end
[22:38] <stlsaint> vinnie_: maybe the laptop user is in a group that server isnt
[22:39] <vinnie_> i'll have to think about that
[22:40] <stlsaint> fc: guess no go
[22:40] <fc> It didn't work :/ Every couple of minutes while trying to get the connection it will say wireless connect disconnected.
[22:41] <fc> My bad, it says wireless network disconnected.
[22:42] <fc> It will also keep asking me for the router password.
[22:43] <vinnie_> thanks for that stlsaint - ill research it further, see you's later..
[22:44] <stlsaint> fc: open terminal
[22:44] <fc> Okay, ready.
[22:44] <stlsaint> fc: enter: rfkill list all
[22:45] <fc> Want me to post results?
[22:45] <stlsaint> fc: yes
[22:45] <fc> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN 	Soft blocked: no 	Hard blocked: no 1: asus-wlan: Wireless LAN 	Soft blocked: no 	Hard blocked: no 2: asus-wimax: WiMAX 	Soft blocked: no 	Hard blocked: no
[22:47] <stlsaint> fc: bad news or good news first
[22:47] <fc> Ehh, hit me with the bad news
[22:48] <stlsaint> fc: you will possibly need different kernel
[22:49] <fc> Will I have no clue how to do that, so make me feel better with some good news now. lol
[22:49] <fc> Well*
[22:50] <stlsaint> fc: good news is a new kernel propose's a fix
[22:50] <fc> Hmm, so where might I find this kernel?
[22:50] <stlsaint> good news=you need a different kernel, bad news=you need a different kernel
[22:52] <stlsaint> great news is you should't have to recompile the kernel for module
[22:53] <stlsaint> fc: its really strange cause your driver has been included in mainline kernel since 2.6.24
[22:54] <fc> Yeah, it's weird because my friend told me I shouldn't have had a problem. Is it because I'm still also dual booting Windows?
[22:54] <eok> Hello, i just made a thread in ubuntu forums, does it need to be moderated before it shows up? I can't find it
[22:55] <stlsaint> fc: no that is no issue
[22:55] <stlsaint> eok: under your control panel look under your post listings. Does it show up there?
[22:56] <eok> i dont have any post listing under cp
[22:56] <stlsaint> fc: run this command: dmesg | grep iwl
[22:56] <eok> but i dont find it when i search my own threads
[22:56] <stlsaint> eok: you probably took to long to post and your session ended prior to you hitting the submit button
[22:57] <stlsaint> eok: try again at post
[22:57] <eok> fuu, it was so long..
[22:57] <stlsaint> eok: thus your session ended
[22:57] <fc> [   26.872815] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17 [   26.872826] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: setting latency timer to 64 [   26.872850] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: pci_resource_len = 0x00002000 [   26.872852] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: pci_resource_base = ffffc900057b4000 [   26.872854] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: HW Revision ID = 0x67 [   26.872978] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: irq 51 for MSI/MSI-X [   26.873017] iwlwifi 0000:02:
[22:57] <eok> took me forever to make it..
[22:57] <stlsaint> fc: alright we are gonna use paste.ubuntu.com from now on to paste output ;)
[22:58] <stlsaint> fc: please repaste that output into paste.ubuntu.com
[22:58] <eok> yay, i still had it in history :)
[22:58] <stlsaint> eok: maybe you could just ask your question here?
[22:58] <fc> I'm sorry lol.
[22:58] <stlsaint> fc: no prob. if you wanted a even easier method install application pastebinit
[22:58] <stlsaint> a fav of mine
[22:58] <stlsaint> fc: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[22:59] <fc> [   26.872815] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17 [   26.872826] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: setting latency timer to 64 [   26.872850] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: pci_resource_len = 0x00002000 [   26.872852] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: pci_resource_base = ffffc900057b4000 [   26.872854] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: HW Revision ID = 0x67 [   26.872978] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: irq 51 for MSI/MSI-X [   26.873017] iwlwifi 0000:02:
[22:59] <stlsaint> fc: dang you
[22:59] <fc> Ahh, it still came out weird
[22:59] <stlsaint> fc: dude go to paste.ubuntu.com
[22:59] <stlsaint> fc: paste the output there and hit the submit button
[22:59] <stlsaint> fc: OORRRR just install pastebinit
[23:00] <eok> stlsaint: uhm i just copy pasted it in a new thread now.. it's not showing up
[23:01] <eok> am i missing something, or must i wait for it to be moderated?
[23:01] <stlsaint> eok: is this your first post to forums?
[23:02] <stlsaint> naw, nevermind im thinking elsewhere. No your post should show fine
[23:02] <stlsaint> fc: you install pastebinit? Are you on linux using ethernet now?
[23:02] <eok> its my first thread yes
[23:02] <fc> I installed pastebinit, but how do I get it to it now? And yes, I'm on a wired connection now.
[23:03] <stlsaint> eok: should be fine. I would start a new thread and re-type post
[23:04] <stlsaint> fc: enter command: dmesg | grep iwl | pastebinit
[23:04] <stlsaint> fc: give me the url that outputs
[23:04] <eok> i think it needs to be moderated :) poor moderator, will find at least 3 duplicate threads from me :P
[23:05] <fc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1034642/
[23:05] <stlsaint> fc: nice little app huh ;)
[23:05] <fc> Very useful, so the stuff I post isn't all over the place haha
[23:05] <stlsaint> yes
[23:05] <stlsaint> i love that app
[23:06] <stlsaint> fc: alright solution still stands and is confirmed by that output
[23:06] <fc> So I need a new kernel for sure?
[23:06] <stlsaint> fc: the iwlagn driver (one you would be using had it work) is a really good driver with pre-linux 3.x
[23:06] <stlsaint> everything after linux 3.x and this driver went to crap
[23:07] <stlsaint> fc: so yes, a 2.6.xx kernel is needed
[23:07] <fc> Can you point in the right direction to get it, and how to do it? Thank you, so much for all your time.
[23:07] <fc> point me*
[23:07] <devxdev> anyone know where files go after `bzr branch` command?
[23:08] <stlsaint> fc: OORRR you could install say ubuntu 10.04 which is really a favorite of mind and it still has support until april 2013 :D
[23:08] <stlsaint> and your wireless will (should, but probably more than likely will) work out the box along with everything else ;D
[23:08] <stlsaint> fc: ^^
[23:08] <stlsaint> devxdev: in the directory you were in
[23:08] <devxdev> aah damn thank you :D
[23:09] <stlsaint> devxdev: :D
[23:09] <fc> Lol sounds good to me. Now where do I go to get that :P
[23:09] <fc> And do I need to uninstall this version first?
[23:09] <stlsaint> fc: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/
[23:10] <stlsaint> fc: install that over your current
[23:10] <stlsaint> fc: DONT choose the alternate cd or you will be left with no gui to install from
[23:11] <stlsaint> fc: choose dvd-i386 or amd64 of course
[23:11] <fc> You sir are amazing.
[23:12] <stlsaint> fc: naw, just a guy who received help from another great person in this channel when i first came to ubuntu returning the same
[23:13] <stlsaint> fc: got that help here and never left ;) hopefully i can influence you to join this team/channel and offer support to others. Or just kick it and hang out chatting
[23:13] <stlsaint> though we chat in #ubuntu-beginners-team
[23:13] <stlsaint> or #ubuntuforums (no support as you saw)
[23:13] <fc> Thanks, I'm glad there are people like you. Now, one more help needed from my stupidty lol. Which exact download should I pick.
[23:14] <fc> for*
[23:14] <stlsaint> fc: lol, alright you using i386 or amd64?
[23:14] <fc> And yeah for sure I'll go in the chat channel.
[23:14] <fc> I think amd64. That's for 64 bit right?
[23:14] <stlsaint> yep
[23:14] <stlsaint> fc: open terminal ;)
[23:15] <fc> Lol already ahead of you
[23:15] <stlsaint> fc: uname -a
[23:15] <stlsaint> fc: its one line so past it here
[23:15] <fc> Linux ubuntu 3.2.0-23-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 20:39:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:15] <stlsaint> yep your on 64bit
[23:16] <stlsaint> fc: in terminal: sudo apt-get install wget
[23:16] <stlsaint> fc: if its already there than fine
[23:16] <fc> Yeah, I have it.
[23:16] <stlsaint> fc: in terminal: cd Downloads
[23:17] <stlsaint> fc: the following command i give you will start the download in the terminal, let it run, if you accidentaly close the terminal than just re-enter the command by hitting up arrow and the download will resume at the point it was at. way better than direct download via browser
[23:18] <stlsaint> fc: wget -c http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ubuntu-12.04-dvd-amd64.iso
[23:18] <fc> Wait a sec, I thought I was suppose to get 10?
[23:18] <stlsaint> lol ah crap
[23:18] <stlsaint> fc: good catch there. that would have been hilarious
[23:19] <fc> lmao I noticed it just when i started downloading
[23:20] <stlsaint> fc: wget -c http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lucid/daily-live/current/lucid-desktop-amd64.iso
[23:20] <stlsaint> fc: i think thats right ;)
[23:21] <stlsaint> naw it is
[23:21] <fc> You positive you not trying to give me the same version I already have again? lol okay it's downloading
[23:22] <stlsaint> fc: well if it is same you always know where to find me to yell at
[23:22] <stlsaint> fc: or type capital letters at should i say
[23:23] <fc> I'm gonna hold you to that.
[23:23] <fc> You know I find it ironic that I'm going to school right now for software engineering, but have yet to get much experience at all :|
[23:25] <stlsaint> fc: what year?
[23:25] <fc> Well, maybe that's why I don't know. Im about to start 1st year lol. It's because I was originally going for programming then I switched majors, and schools so now I'm basically starting over.
[23:27] <stlsaint> fc: naw, your starting early which is way excellent
[23:27] <stlsaint> lot of you young kids coming up invovled with this stuff are making your resume beef nicely with linux experience
[23:30] <fc> Yeah I'm trying to get a head start on things, but it's hard to contain all the information. Especially when I have to be in those intro classes where i barely learn anything, and it makes me forget the important stuff I already knew.
[23:31] <stlsaint> fc: join back to #ubuntuforums for chat
[23:47] <fc> Okay, so it's finisihed downloading. How do I install it over this version now?
[23:48] <stlsaint> fc: just install it same way you did. it should give you the option to erase and install your 10.04
[23:48] <fc> I installed 12.04 from windows though.
[23:49] <stlsaint> O_O
[23:49] <stlsaint> dude you did a wubi install?
[23:50] <fc> Yeah.
[23:50] <stlsaint> smh
[23:50] <stlsaint> dang wubi
[23:50] <fc> Why, whats wrong with it?
[23:50] <stlsaint> fc: well that makes things easy. simply use add/remove programs within windows to remove 12.04
[23:51] <fc> Okay, then how do I get 10.04 in windows
[23:55] <stlsaint> fc: do it the same way you did 12.04 if you want
[23:56] <fc___> hmm browser crashed.
[23:57] <stlsaint> firefox huh? smh
[23:57] <fc___> Actually chrome. First time ever
[23:58] <fc___> Okay so I know how to delete 12.04 with windows. How do I then install 10.04? I don't have a CD right now to do it that way.