[04:10] <greg-g> seriously how can I be foiled by libreoffice for just making a simple chart?
[13:12] <rick_h> greg-g: doh
[13:44] <snap-l> Interesting: http://alwaysupward.com/blog/fb-fans-arent-seeing-your-posts-and-how-to-fix-it/
[14:12] <brousch> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/06/10/130251/rms-robbed-of-passport-and-other-belongings-in-argentina
[14:14] <rick_h> yea, that sucks
[14:25] <rick_h> ugh https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=128748
[14:26] <rick_h> snap-l: ugh, just a heads up...this talk is going to be nuts
[14:29] <brousch> What talk?
[14:30] <rick_h> Makefile
[14:30] <rick_h> trying to whip up a talk on Make for Mug on tues
[14:31] <rick_h> I keep picking htings that are hard to really talk about. The best way to see/understand make is to slowly build a Makefile
[14:31] <rick_h> but that means that I, as a presenter, have to be able to do it on the fly
[14:31] <rick_h> and you keep refactoring/etc
[14:31] <rick_h> so I can't just have a final version in my hand we build up to, have lots of notes, middle iterations as we learn trick after trick
[14:32] <rick_h> so it's going to be a damn tough thing to pull off with a few days work
[14:32] <rick_h> with lots of typos/etc I'm sure
[14:32] <brousch> build one up that you already have
[14:32] <rick_h> yea, but they're all too big
[14:32] <rick_h> I was thinking of bookie's file or one from work
[14:32] <rick_h> but they're huge with tons of crap
[14:32] <rick_h> so tring to do a fresh one that's smaller and easier to get our head around
[14:32] <brousch> should be easy since they're all in git
[14:33] <rick_h> doesn't mean they're done in a way that makes sense for a new person, lots of "crap shouldn't have done it that way" in there
[14:37] <rick_h> meh, just getting ancy realizing how much more this is than I thought, but what talk isn't
[14:41] <brousch> antsy
[14:43] <rick_h> yea, that thing :)
[14:45] <snap-l> hello from coney
[14:46] <rick_h> from coney? getting some brunch?
[14:46] <snap-l> rick_h: don't sweat it too mich. this is pretty last minute
[14:46] <snap-l> yeah, before grocwries
[14:47] <rick_h> snap-l: yea, thanks. Just as it grows the more I realize the on the fly is going to fail, good idea but needs practice which I just don't have time to do a ton of
[14:47] <rick_h> but will bungle through it
[14:47] <snap-l> you'll do fine
[14:49] <snap-l> would you stop your talks are always good -J says
[14:50] <rick_h> :P
[23:45] <snap-l> http://nxfxtxex.bandcamp.com/ <- I take the bullets so you don't have to
[23:46] <snap-l> http://barrenwaste.bandcamp.com/ <- Also, I kinda like this, only from a "skinny puppy brap-like" POV
[23:47] <snap-l> http://angelapescathore.bandcamp.com/ <- FML
[23:51] <snap-l> http://thedarkclan.bandcamp.com/album/the-dark-clan-hogs-the-covers <- best cover ever