[00:00] <wolfgang> Where?
[00:00] <reisio> wolfgang: 'Storage'
[00:00] <Bri> having trouble installing 12.04 to an HP box (YAY no more Vista).  Runs fine from CD but after hard disk install get nothing but a pretty wallpaper, no icons, menus, just a mouse pointer.  I'm reinstalling right now from the CD version hope that will do something
[00:00] <reisio> wolfgang: there'll be an empty CD image listing underneath the hard disk listing
[00:00] <meLon> It seems Metacity (metacity --replace) breaks composite (transparent windows become black where there was transparency).  How can I run metacity with composite to see if that's actually the problem
[00:00] <wolfgang> ?
[00:00] <wolfgang> where?
[00:01] <mz|`> wolfgang: why do you not read the documentation ?
[00:01] <mz|`> before asking ?
[00:01] <wolfgang> what documentation?
[00:01] <mz|`> ...
[00:01] <mz|`> someone please kill me.
[00:02] <reisio> mz|`: you haven't tipped me yet
[00:02] <v1adimir> plz let me know b4hand..:) [01:55] <v1adimir> i5-2400 CPU throttling, who can help me pls? http://pastebin.com/m7ChWZGS
[00:02] <wolfgang> Then leave the Help CHAT CLEARLY FOR PEOPLE WHO DONT KNOW!
[00:02] <reisio> wolfgang: http://lenes.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/vbox.jpg
[00:02] <mz|`> but have read the documentation at least wolfgang ....
[00:02] <mz|`> search, THEN ask if you do not know
[00:03] <wolfgang> Thank you reisio
[00:04] <wylde_> wolfgang: this is a "support" channel, not a spoon feed people with no desire to edjucate themselves. Some effort on your part is expected.In the end you will have much more success solving issues if you take the time to at least try to  solve problems on your own.
[00:05] <wolfgang> wylde, i have speant about 15 mins on it can't figure it out
[00:05] <v1adimir> ed-juke box-themselves?..;) :)
[00:05] <esing123> mz|` well .. I got the same chmod's set as you do .. I could still try to delete .ICEauthority ,how would I do that (not seeing where it is located)
[00:06] <glyph> Is USB3 supposed to work reliably in Precise?
[00:06] <glyph> I mean, it doesn't, on my computer, I just don't know whether I was supposed to expect it to :)
[00:06] <v1adimir> wolfgang: it's been like half a day 4 http://pastebin.com/m7ChWZGS & im still waiting; so patience, my young padawan ;p :d
[00:08] <wylde_> v1adimir: 'apt-cache search xfce cpu frequency'
[00:08] <wolfgang> vladimir, i looked at it it looks like you'r problem is some junk
[00:08] <wylde_> v1adimir: that will list a few applications avaiable for xfce and cpu throttling.
[00:09] <ccmonster> why is lightdm taking 50% of a core?
[00:09] <SwashBuckla> GRUB2 question: I have set the TIMEOUT=0 and the DEFAULT=0 (Windows). Can I still boot Ubuntu?
[00:09] <v1adimir> wylde_: http://pastebin.com/QB4nsz77
[00:09] <wylde_> v1adimir: xfce4-cpufreq-plugin looks like it's what you want
[00:09] <ccmonster> Gnome shell is also taking roughly 50% of a core
[00:10] <reisio> ccmonster: you'd rather your processor go unused?
[00:10] <wylde_> v1adimir: then you can add it to the panel to monitor cpufreq, it may also allow you to change the presets
[00:10] <v1adimir> wylde_: im a complete noob.. so pls excuse me - but if i install it, it'll let me see/control?
[00:10] <v1adimir> ok, gotcha
[00:10] <ccmonster> lol reisio , um, well when I feel the sluggishness at times, it's a bit frustrating.
[00:10] <wylde_> v1adimir: it's a been a while since I was using xfce, working from memory
[00:10] <reisio> ccmonster: what proc/ram/gpu?
[00:11] <ccmonster> AMD 955Black Quad Core/8gb/ATI 6990
[00:12] <v1adimir> wolfgang: some junk?.. wylde_: how can i run the plugin, where do i find it pls ?
[00:13] <wylde_> v1adimir: right click on the panel? Ummmm look for panel properties, or somesuch
[00:13] <v1adimir> can't seem 2 find it, that's why i ask - ok i'll google it; tnx a lot. :)
[00:14] <esing123> wylde_ what should i do concerning my problem
[00:14] <Silversong> Hi. I keep getting the "The update information is outdated." red ! triangle. But I just sudo apt-get update 15 minutes ago.
[00:14] <SolarisBoy> lorddelta: did you find it?
[00:15] <Silversong> Anyone have any idea why?
[00:15] <wylde_> esing123: good question... I don't know. Which is why I have not replied. Please don't target random people like that. It's frowned upon.
[00:15] <ccmonster> reisio, ..any ideas
[00:16] <esing123> wylde_ hm, i thought i explained you the issue earlier, that is why i named you
[00:16] <Silversong> :| Anyone
[00:16] <reisio> ccmonster: about?
[00:18] <Mike9863> Gnome Shell does not show up as an option for me in lightdm even though I have it installed. Does anyone know how to add it to the session list?
[00:18] <Ansikt> Silversong:  Try the update again.  Maybe it's been changed since then?
[00:18] <Silversong> Ansikt, it's been ongoing for the past 5 days
[00:19] <Silversong> Actually, longer than that
[00:19] <Silversong> I did it again, it still wouldn't go away. Did it just now.
[00:19] <Ansikt> Hm,  Weird stuff.  Try apt-get upgrade.
[00:19] <fishcooker> is there any mini install /net install on ubuntu?
[00:19] <Ansikt> Maybe you'll get some useful debug?
[00:19] <Silversong> It says "The package information was updated 18 days ago."
[00:19] <Silversong> But I clearly just updated now.
[00:19] <Silversong> And in the error, I get this: W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/arduino-ubuntu-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[00:19] <Silversong> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/arduino-ubuntu-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[00:19] <Silversong> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/arduino-ubuntu-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[00:19] <Silversong> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/drivers-only/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[00:19] <Silversong> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/drivers-only/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[00:19] <FloodBot1> Silversong: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:19] <Silversong> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/drivers-only/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[00:20] <reisio> Silversong: I concur
[00:20] <Silversong> Oops
[00:20] <SwashBuckla> D:
[00:20] <bastidrazor> fishcooker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation  this will help you.
[00:20] <Silversong> But yeah... I get that thing...
[00:20] <wolfgang> Hay I'm still trying to figure out how to get the os on virtual box
[00:20] <wolfgang> How do i do it?
[00:21] <reisio> wolfgang: you install it from the install image, same as anything else
[00:21] <Silversong> sudo apt-get upgrade doesn't do.
[00:21] <wolfgang> What install image?
[00:21] <v1adimir> wylde_: again, tyvm, xfce4-cpufreq-plugin allowed me to set the frequency on max (with on demand, or whatever)
[00:21] <wolfgang> the one from that screenshot?
[00:21] <Silversong> reisio: sudo apt-get upgrade doesn't do anything. Sorry about the flood.
[00:22] <reisio> wolfgang: you want to install Windows to a VM guest?
[00:22] <wolfgang> Not sure what guest is but ya i want wondows xp on vm
[00:22] <wolfgang> i have the disk
[00:23] <ejo> wolfgang: in your case the guest OS is windows xp and the host is your Ubuntu machine
[00:23] <wolfgang> ok
[00:23] <wolfgang> how do i do it?
[00:23] <v1adimir> wylde_: I spoke too soon :( It resets back to the values it showed on install: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-06102012-022251am.php
[00:23] <tuxx> hey guys
[00:24] <tuxgeek> howdy!
[00:24] <Ansikt> Silversong:  Try update with --fix-missing?
[00:24] <wolfgang> reisio, That screenshot i dont have empty
[00:24] <wylde_> v1adimir: the governor settings aren't staying set?
[00:24] <tuxx> hey guys
[00:24] <v1adimir> wylde_: neither of the two
[00:24] <reisio> wolfgang: you don't have what now?
[00:25] <wolfgang> Never mind
[00:25] <tuxx> when i run "aplay --device=front soukie.wav" i get sound but if i run "aplay soukie.wav" i dont. what is that due to?
[00:25] <wolfgang> riesio do you know how to install one to vm?
[00:25] <ejo> wolfgang: read the instructions?
[00:25] <wolfgang> Where are theye?
[00:25] <wylde_> v1adimir: moment, I'm going to search bugs
[00:26] <ejo> wolfgang: for example, installing windows on a virtualbox is *identical* to installing it on a physical machine *except* that you have to do it from a .iso file or you have to provide the virtual machine a way of accessing your optical drive.
[00:26] <Silversong> Ansikt: How do I do that xD
[00:26] <wolfgang> It's on a Physical cd
[00:26] <ejo> If you don't know how to locate the instructions for the virtual machine that you are using, we have a more fundamental problem.
[00:26] <Ansikt> ejo, wolfgang:  Except for performance on pretty much every device.
[00:26] <wolfgang> I got it from software center
[00:27] <ejo> Ok, you just need to boot your vm from that cd.  How to do so is in the instructions for your virtual machine
[00:27] <Ansikt> Silversong:  sudo apt-get update --fix-missing
[00:27] <Silversong> ansikt: oh nvm got it
[00:27] <wolfgang> ejo: where are the instructions?
[00:27] <Ansikt> Silversong:  If that doesn't help, then maybe we could clear the mirror list?
[00:27] <Silversong> ansikt: I think that's what i need. Hopefully it works. Thankya!
[00:27] <wylde_> v1adimir: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-cpufreq-plugin/+bug/977942
[00:27] <Ansikt> SIlversong:  woot!
[00:27] <v1adimir> wylde_: in the xfce panel I can see it 'throttling' to 3.1GHz but idk if that's real... since changing the settings won't stick; & the benchmark report shows the wrong CPU names - nothing to do with my system: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-23228ba8.html
[00:28] <Silversong> ansikt: It's gone now. I hope it doesn't come back in fifteen minutes. Usually that's when it shows up again. we'll see
[00:28] <mz|`> wolfgang: Menu > Help *Or* go on virtualbox website and read the documentation
[00:28] <Silversong> ansikt: I still get this though: http://ppa.launchpad.net/arduino-ubuntu-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[00:28] <wolfgang> OK THANK YOU
[00:28] <Silversong> ansikt: I mean: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/arduino-ubuntu-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[00:28] <wolfgang> A SIMPLE ANSWER
[00:28] <aakside> Can I stream audio from my linux box to my macbook? (to use its speakers)
[00:28] <Silversong> ansikt: I think it's something to do with when I installed the linux arduino IDE.
[00:28] <Ansikt> Silversong:  Just the one mirror?
[00:29] <ejo> I decline to repeat myself regarding the instructions
[00:29] <Silversong> ansikt: 5. I'll post it in a pastebin. hold on :) && thankies
[00:29] <v1adimir> wylde_: "[..] as this has a severe impact on a non-core application." -- I can follow the WORKAROUND there, do you think?
[00:29] <Silversong> ansikt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1032960/
[00:30] <wylde_> !paste | v1adimir: please use these
[00:30] <Ansikt> wolfgang:  If you just create a virtual box image with the defaults, and turn it on, it'll ask you if your install media is in your actual disk drive.
[00:30] <GNS3Talk> Hi everyone, my Ubuntu 12.04 boots up when connected to my AVR (media receiver) and the receiver detects a signal from it when it's at the boot loader stage. Once it goes beyond that, the receiver loses the signal! What's strange about it is that if I unplug the HDMI cable, the PC boots fine and it even detects the receiver if I plug the HDMI cable AFTER it completes the booting up process. Has anybody come across this before? What may be the prob
[00:32] <Ansikt> Silversong:  So long as some work, then I'd say don't let it bother you.
[00:32] <wylde_> v1adimir: there's a workaround listed on the bugs page. Looks like the bug has been pushed upstream but still no fix.
[00:33] <Silversong> ansikt: lol i hope. just that red triangle bothers me :3
[00:34] <wolfgang> Ansikt, hay i did that and it says Creating process for virtual machine "Windows XP" (GUI/Qt) ... (1/2)"
[00:34] <wolfgang> is that good?
[00:34] <wolfgang> !virtualbox
[00:35] <fishcooker> thanks bastidrazor i will work with cli install
[00:35] <v1adimir> wylde_: here's the CPU benchmark info, that's totally off & i will try the workaround.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1032966/
[00:36] <blackheath> hi
[00:36] <Ansikt> woflgamg:  Sounds good.  Anything indicating to the contrary?
[00:37] <haruband> Does virtualbox support to emulate vt-x which is intel's hardware virtualization technique. Because i want to run kvm in virtualbox.
[00:37] <mz|`> haruband: yes
[00:37] <mz|`> but virtualization in virtualized env is... not a good idea.
[00:37] <wolfgang> Hay this is still not working... what do i do?
[00:37] <mz|`> too much emultation level
[00:38] <wolfgang> Hello?
[00:38] <Ansikt> mz|:  Try it and find out.  I've done virtual-ception myself, and had it work fine.
[00:38] <haruband> Oh good thank you. I just want to use for some experiments.
[00:38] <wolfgang> Hay i still can't figure out how to install an os on it
[00:39] <wolfgang> Hello?
[00:39] <Ansikt> Wolfgang:  Okay.  What's wrong?
[00:39] <wolfgang> I don't know how to install an os on vm
[00:39] <Ansikt> wolfgang:  Also, don't spam the channel.  That's poor manners and a good way to get ignored.
[00:39] <wolfgang> i got it from software center
[00:39] <mz|`> Ansikt: not id production. but virtualbox does not applyto production environment anyway.
[00:39] <mz|`> s/id/in
[00:40] <Ansikt> mz|`:  **shrug** ESXi worked fine for with HyperV inside.
[00:41] <wolfgang> Ansikt, do you know how?
[00:41] <Ansikt> *for me
[00:41] <mz|`> Ansikt: i only use unix/linux virt
[00:41] <mz|`> wolfgang: SEARCh : https://seogadget.co.uk/how-to-install-virtualbox/
[00:41] <mz|`> i search once, i found a tutorial
[00:43] <Ansikt> wolfgang:  follow these instructions: http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/how-to-install-windows-8-on-virtualbox/.  Make sure it installs from HOST COMPUTER'S CD/DVD DRIVE.
[00:43] <lorddelta> SolarisBoy: yeah found it, temporary file skype created
[00:43] <Ansikt> And make sure that the PROPER VERSION of Windows is selected
[00:44] <Ansikt> mz|`:  Still.  The best way is to test.  Virtualization is a dark and obscure art.
[00:44] <mz|`> Ansikt :)
[00:45] <mz|`> searching seems to be obscur too.
[00:47] <herplade1> hey guys i'm pretty happy with 10.04, is there any reason to upgrade to 10.10 or 12.04?
[00:48] <Ansikt> Herplade1:  You're going to run out of LTS support soon>
[00:48] <Ansikt> ?
[00:49] <mz|`> haruband: backup your files first. then sed -i 's/lucid/precise/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:49] <herplade1> well, in a year
[00:49] <bastidrazor> mz|`: that is a bad way to upgrade from version to version.
[00:49] <Ansikt> herplade1:  Yeah, that's all I got D;
[00:49] <mz|`> always worked for me
[00:50] <Kitty_Fight> :/help
[00:50] <bastidrazor> !wfm
[00:50] <hippiehacker> https://gist.github.com/2903267 # any further direction on how to build the official live/install ... I'm generating an iso that's missing a few files
[00:50] <mz|`> bastidrazor: best way ? install properly 12.04 ?
[00:51] <bastidrazor> mz|`: follow proper guides.   http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[00:51] <herplade1> i'm just worried about this unity thing
[00:51] <herplade1> 'cause i like gnome
[00:52] <mz|`> bastidrazor: does mostly the same thing
[00:52] <mz|`> or explain the process used by update-manager please
[00:52] <Ansikt> herplade1:  Have you tried it?  I thought I'd hate it, but I gave it a try, and really liked it.
[00:54] <zoidberg_> hy
[00:54] <zoidberg_> csá magyarok
[00:55] <esing123> i can't logoff my PC anymore. Error appears: "Kindprocess Lubuntu logout cannot be found"
[00:56] <esing123> there is no info on the web
[00:56] <esing123> i suppose you guys dont know either
[00:56] <esing123> i prolly should install ubuntu on the scratch since the support is weak
[00:57] <herplade1> Ansikt, but i use compiz and i have customized it a lot
[00:57] <herplade1> i don't think it'll work in unity
[00:57] <esing123> herplade1 how do run applications in unity
[00:57] <herplade1> when you google "Unity" it suggestss "unity sucks"
[00:57] <esing123> herplade1 isnt it only "alt + appname"
[00:59] <Ansikt> herplade1: Like I said, I got nothing.  But it's worth a try, at the very least.
[01:00] <Ansikt> esing123:  Hit the windows key, then you can search for it, or go through the app menu, or put it in the dock.
[01:00] <Ansikt> herplade1:  Also, call me curious, but screenshot?
[01:01] <esing123> ansikt my thinkpad luckily has no windows key
[01:01] <esing123> I think alt does the job instead onf thinkpads
[01:01] <wjon> ctrl+esc do the same?
[01:01] <esing123> quien sabe
[01:01] <esing123> do i really need to install ubuntu on scratch
[01:02] <esing123> :(
[01:02] <esing123> no expert here?
[01:02] <wjon> never used lubuntu :(
[01:02] <esing123> it's same as ubuntu only with LXDE
[01:04] <wjon> 'lxde-logout' or 'lubuntu-logout' maybe?
[01:04] <wjon> just a guess :(
[01:05] <Ansikt> esing123:  What model?  My thinkpad x120 has a windows key.
[01:05] <Ansikt> Not telling you it's not there, just curious.
[01:09] <blackheath_> hey,guys.something wrong with my system tray
[01:11] <someguy> is it wirth upgrading from the 2.6.38 kernel to the 3.5?
[01:11] <checkm8> hi there can anyone help me output to hdmi with an Asus G73 laptop?
[01:12] <someguy> and if so where is a good walkthrough to upgrade a kernel?
[01:13] <wjon> someguy: If you're using a standard kernel then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[01:13] <tpw_rules> so i tried creating a raid array with mdadm, but it went terribly wrong. when creating it, it said the drives involved were busy and seemed to error out. being unable to un-busy them, i tried rebooting, but it warns me about a degraded raid array and drops me into busybox whenever i try to boot now
[01:13] <wjon> if you want to build from scratch you'd have to ask someone else
[01:13] <someguy> that will upgrade the kernel?
[01:14] <checkm8> wow what junk software wont even output hdmi i think ill go back to windows
[01:14] <checkm8> thanks for nothing ubuntu
[01:14] <reisio> hahaha
[01:14] <someguy> some pretty crzy talk
[01:14] <blackheath_> oh
[01:15] <checkm8> crazy talk? Crazy software! This crap cant do anything right
[01:15] <someguy> demz fight'in werds!
[01:15] <reisio> checkm8: do you have a nvidia card?
[01:15] <checkm8> reisio: yes and I installed the accelerated driver
[01:15] <bazhang> checkm8, actual support question?
[01:15] <reisio> checkm8: lsmod | grep nvidia shows it?
[01:15] <checkm8> yes
[01:15] <reisio> unfortunately the comparison between preinstalled drivers & Windows, and not-preinstalled Linux and drivers, is pointless
[01:16] <reisio> checkm8: okay, have you run nvidia-settings?
[01:16] <bazhang> checkm8, then ask it. this is NOT the rant channel
[01:16] <checkm8> yes
[01:16] <checkm8> it wont even detect my display
[01:16] <reisio> checkm8: you hit the detect display button and nothing?
[01:16] <checkm8> reisio: nothing
[01:16] <reisio> checkm8: and the cable is hooked up on both ends correctly
[01:17] <checkm8> reisio: nvm I just updated to the latest driver
[01:17] <checkm8> works now I think
[01:17] <reisio> either it does or it doesn't :p
[01:17] <checkm8> reisio: thanks its working
[01:18] <reisio> gj
[01:18] <checkm8> reisio: sometimes you just cant get the same help without ranting
[01:18] <checkm8> reisio: sorry about that
[01:18] <reisio> checkm8: I s'pose
[01:18] <checkm8> reisio: thanks for your help
[01:18] <reisio> ranting I don't really mind, just silly comparisons
[01:18] <reisio> but I don't run this channel :p
[01:20] <LinXz> Sharp MZ80k and an iPhone - now there is a silly comparison. Wish I still had my Sharp...
[01:23] <ex0a> i know this isn't a specificly ubuntu related question, but i'm curious if it's because of the way i'm doing things if it's ubuntu related.. i've got grub booting a gparted iso, but on boot, it fails to modprobe the promise_fasttrack_raid_module, which i have no issues with when booting ubuntu.. how can i get it to use the raid module from ubuntu with the live gparted iso?
[01:24] <ex0a> is that something i can add to the menuentry and it will supply the raid module?
[01:24] <herplade1> jyp goes down now
[01:25] <reisio> ex0a: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/create-gparted-live.php
[01:25] <reisio> ex0a: or you could try just extracting it and adding the module/module to the list of modules to load & rebuilding it
[01:26] <ex0a> i looked at the create gparted live page, but unfortuneately i can't boot gparted to do it.. i'll try messing with extracting and rebuilding
[01:26] <reisio> ex0a: what's the CONFIG_ name?
[01:27] <ex0a> reisio: i'm not 100% sure what you're asking for
[01:28] <escott> ex0a, thats not going to work. the modules are kernel specific
[01:28] <reisio> ex0a: min
[01:29] <joanne> ok guys, how do I upgrade jaunty using a CD?
[01:29] <joanne> I have a hardy cd but it's telling me that there is a network error
[01:30] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | joanne
[01:31] <bazhang> joanne, live cd for an earlier version wont do that.   jaunty is long end of life, so see the link above
[01:31] <bazhang> joanne, for future reference, the alternative cd for an equal or higher version could be used to upgrade
[01:31] <reisio> ex0a: the CONFIG_ name for the kernel
[01:32] <joanne> bazhang, thanks, I was having issues getting hardy to run on the laptop
[01:32] <reisio> ex0a: maybe CONFIG_SATA_PROMISE
[01:33] <reisio> ex0a: systemrescuecd might have it: http://is.gd/a2dJMT / http://www.sysresccd.org/
[01:34] <P-Chan> how to hide edid checksum error in boot?
[01:34] <P-Chan> i NOT FOUNDED IN GOOGLE
[01:34] <tijko> how to escape screen calibration
[01:35] <escott> P-Chan, where does it happen in the boot
[01:35] <ex0a> reisio: i'll look into that thanks
[01:35] <P-Chan> escott:  *ERROR* EDID checksum is invalid, remainder is 247 I not have money yet to buy new monitor and this works yet so...
[01:36] <escott> P-Chan, if it is happening before Xorg starts then the stuff I told you about Xorg.conf won't help. and its probably a side-effect of the kernel doing modesetting
[01:36] <RecursiveBeast> hey guys, any X11 experts here? i'm trying to get my little Atom box to display in widescreen mode on my TV (1080p)
[01:36] <escott> P-Chan, i'm also wondering what is so bad about this error message that you are so worried. if its just a single message why does it matter?
[01:36] <RecursiveBeast> i think i have to edit my xorg.conf file
[01:37] <tijko> does anybody know how to  escape  a screen  calibration?
[01:37] <P-Chan> escott: because sometimes this message loops and sometime I must press atl+print+k to go to login session
[01:38] <joanne> bazhang, it doesn't work
[01:38] <RecursiveBeast> i grep'ed the Xorg.0.log file and Xorg seems to see the proper resolution and refresh rates
[01:38] <RecursiveBeast> i'm just unsure what exactly to put in that xorg.conf file
[01:38] <escott> P-Chan, does that mean you sometimes dont get the error
[01:39] <bazhang> joanne, what doesnt work. explain exactly what you did as outlined in the eolupgrades link that does not work. paste.ubuntu.com with the exact errors
[01:39] <chabie> haloo.. i have a problem
[01:39] <riddlebox> is there a way so that when I right click on the dash and select applications, then filter results, and it shows the categories, to have that display by default?
[01:39] <P-Chan> escott: well the error gets ever but sometimes this happen
[01:40] <joanne> bazhang, I added the source list and it still says network error
[01:40] <P-Chan> escott: because when I go to prompt I see the last message
[01:40] <P-Chan> and When I logoff this error is there
[01:40] <escott> P-Chan, if you always get the error, but only sometimes get the X keeps crashing I doubt the error is the real cause of the X crash
[01:40] <chabie> i cannot create opensuse live usb on ubuntu.. there is solved/
[01:41] <escott> P-Chan, so why don't you describe what is happening when you get this looping error.
[01:41] <bazhang> joanne, pastebin your sources.list to paste.ubuntu.com please and give us the url
[01:41] <bazhang> chabie, try unetbootin
[01:42] <chabie> i have trying, but nothing distribution
[01:42] <bazhang> unetbootin.sourceforge.net or install from repos if trying from ubuntu
[01:42] <P-Chan> escott: well ... This loop is  the x trying start the X
[01:42] <bazhang> chabie, md5 the iso, ask #suse for the hash
[01:42] <escott> P-Chan, so look at your Xorg.0.log in /var/log
[01:43] <joanne> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/XFNLQ5EY
[01:44] <tijko> does anybody know how to escape or exit  a screen calibration?
[01:45] <reisio> tijko: can always CTRL+ALT+F2 and kill the process
[01:45] <P-Chan> escott: here's my xorg log http://pastebin.com/sLNm81FM
[01:45] <chabie> I've tried with various tools in ubuntu, but failed ?
[01:45] <bazhang> joanne, you added the old-releases, but still left the other jaunty repos uncommented.   # comment them out then try again
[01:45] <joanne> ?
[01:45] <nina666> hi, im doing a apt-get update, and constantly get this error: W: GPG error: http://download.virtualbox.org precise InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 54422A4B98AB5139
[01:46] <tijko> reisio my cat jumped on the keyboard then all solid colors red grey blue and I didn;t know how to escape and cant find anything on it
[01:46] <P-Chan> nina666: you need the key
[01:46] <P-Chan> Ok somebody answer this question. Is a good idea use swapness and zramenable sametime?
[01:46] <n2deep> nina666: you need to run apt-key add with the correct key
[01:46] <reisio> tijko: well you could restart X
[01:46] <joanne> bazhang, #deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main restricted
[01:46] <escott> P-Chan, so thats a working X session. what about one of the failed X sessions?
[01:46] <n2deep> nin666: wget the key to /tmp
[01:46] <joanne> bazhang,  like this?
[01:47] <nina666> P-chan, n2deep, oh ok, where should i get the key
[01:47] <Yoshimi-pink> when you boot into a live cd there is a program available on the live os which allows you to install the os onto a disk, I want that program for a full operating system
[01:47] <n2deep> nina666: then run apt-key add /tmp/vboxkey.txt
[01:47] <bazhang> joanne, yes, for all of them, outside of the old-releases ones
[01:47] <tijko> reisio i know of a few unconventional methods  , but, I was looking more for how to start it and end it with what it was?
[01:47] <P-Chan> nina666: where you take this source?
[01:47] <n2deep> nina666: from the vbox download page at the bottom there is a link
[01:47] <reisio> tijko: with what was already open?
[01:48] <reisio> tijko: what're you IRCing from?
[01:48] <oooaaaoooo> Hi guys general question, does wireless N operate on a different frequency than G? I.e. should i see a non 2.x Ghz value when i look it up on ifconfig?
[01:48] <P-Chan> escott: before that error, my monitor is 1200x800
[01:48] <subcool> could someone tell me or forward me to a place i can get assistance troubleshooting my torrent problem?
[01:48] <P-Chan> now 1028x...
[01:48] <tijko> reisio i got out of it but, i'm wondering how to open a screen test and exit it
[01:48] <n2deep> nina666: here is the link as seen on the download page: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/oracle_vbox.asc
[01:49] <escott> P-Chan, 1200x800 is not reported in the EDID information for VGA1
[01:49] <reisio> tijko: do you know how to open it?
[01:49] <escott> P-Chan, its interesting you are using VGA. is DVI an option?
[01:49] <subcool> PM if you could, sorting threw these lines is a pain.
[01:49] <P-Chan> I don't know what is the DVI
[01:49] <joanne> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/1kc906Ma
[01:49] <nina666> thanks alot :) so now how should I redirect this key?
[01:49] <tijko> reisio how does one use a keycombination to do a screen test and then exit with key combination
[01:49] <nina666> n2deep, thanks alot :) so now how should I redirect this key?
[01:50] <P-Chan> Oh man. The ubuntu creator put unstable inkscape in the reporitory... Now I need compile the stable version...
[01:50] <Yoshimi-pink> i want to be able to install ubuntu onto a thumb drive from my regular operating system
[01:50] <reisio> tijko: need to know what the executable or key combo you used in the first place is
[01:50] <escott> P-Chan, different cable type. http://www.pantherproducts.co.uk/Articles/images/vgadvi.jpg
[01:50] <mz|`> Yoshimi-pink: debootstrap/chroot & else
[01:50] <tijko> reisio are you familiar with screen test or color calibrations?
[01:50] <P-Chan> escott: VGA
[01:51] <reisio> tijko: yup
[01:51] <escott> P-Chan, the logs show that. which is why I was asking. do you have DVI connectors on both computer and monitor
[01:51] <oooaaaoooo> Hi guys, can one tel if one is one 802.11 N Or G via iwconfig?
[01:51] <mz|`> Yoshimi-pink: for example : http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/01/debootstrap-minimal-debian-ubuntu-installation/
[01:51] <tijko> is there a default hotkey to do a screen calibaration?
[01:52] <tijko> reisio I appreciate you attempt but, you're way off from what I'm asking
[01:52] <Yoshimi-pink> well i don't want to do a minimal install
[01:52] <tijko> reisio have a nice night
[01:52] <B0101> hi there, i was installing ubuntu alongside windows. the install ran smoothly untill it reached a grey screen with the menu "Ubuntu Desktop". It did nothing and then rebooted. When it rebooted, i found that the system booted to windows and i did not find grub installed. What can i do?
[01:52] <Yoshimi-pink> i wanted to be able to do the whole things
[01:52] <P-Chan> escott: escott i DOn't have DVI here
[01:52] <Yoshimi-pink> *Thing
[01:53] <mz|`> Yoshimi-pink: install further package next
[01:53] <mz|`> packages*
[01:53] <reisio> tijko: I have no idea what you're asking, you won't say what it is you want
[01:53] <Yoshimi-pink> ?
[01:53] <comoon> ?
[01:53] <tijko> reisio i've repeated it numerous times and very plainly and simply
[01:54] <mz|`> do the install by debootstrap then install needed packages
[01:54] <mz|`> anotehr idea to fit your needs:  reverse-eng the live cd :)
[01:55] <n2deep> nina666: if you have downloaded the key to /tmp then all you should need to do is apt-key add /tmp/oracle_vbox.asc
[01:55] <tijko> reisio there were keys on my keyboard that were accidently pressed,  and that turned on a screen test of some sort.  I'm thinking there is a default screen test that ubuntu uses and want to know what is the key combination turn this on or exit it?
[01:55] <tijko> reisio do you understand?
[01:55] <tijko> for 20th time
[01:56] <reisio> tijko: so you don't know how it was ran
[01:56] <joanne> bazhang, it's still looking for those other servers, even commented out
[01:56] <reisio> tijko: and now that you've exited it, you can't take a screenshot so someone can understand what it was that was running
[01:57] <nina666> got it. thanks ;)
[01:57] <bazhang> joanne, did you apt-get update after saving the sources.list change?
[01:57] <nina666> n2deep, got it. thanks ;)
[01:57] <oooaaaoooo> hi guys does ubuntu 12.04 support wireless N /
[01:57] <tijko> reisio this isn't that involved.
[01:57] <mz|`> oooaaaoooo: yes.
[01:57] <reisio> tijko: it wouldn't be, if anyone knew what you wanted to run
[01:57] <mz|`> it is a driver issue, not a distribution issue.
[01:57] <oooaaaoooo> mz|`: how do i check if i am connected via N? frequency ?
[01:58] <escott> P-Chan, there is nothing in the log you posted that indicates any potential problem, but since you are using VGA I would recommend you (A) make sure the cable is well secured on both ends, and (B) that the cable is not crossing any other cable or potential source of electromagnetic interference
[01:58] <reisio> tijko: do you have 'monitest'?
[01:58] <tijko> reisio You clearly don't know if there is a default screen test on ubuntu and what it is or how to call it
[01:58] <mz|`> iw / iwconfig
[01:58] <reisio> tijko: on the contrary, we already know there is because you ran it
[01:58] <mz|`> or networkmanager / right click / connection informations
[01:58] <oooaaaoooo> mz|`: and Id be looking for ...?
[01:58] <reisio> tijko: that doesn't help with identifying what the executable is
[01:58] <P-Chan> escott: Ok.
[01:58] <P-Chan> I will check it
[01:58] <mz|`> oooaaaoooo: bandwith/bitrate/speed
[01:58] <tijko> reisio I'll be fine with asking someone else thanks though
[01:59] <mz|`> up to 54Mbits/s -> G
[01:59] <oooaaaoooo> mz|`: ok so it isnt a frequency thing?
[01:59] <mz|`> 150/300Mbits/s -> N
[01:59] <reisio> tijko: g'luck
[01:59] <joanne> bazhang, yes
[01:59] <mz|`> oooaaaoooo: no.
[01:59] <tijko> reisio yeah i know
[01:59] <joanne> bazhang, should I have?
[01:59] <mz|`> frequency + speed
[01:59] <oooaaaoooo> mz|`: ok cool thanks
[01:59] <mz|`> frequency modifications to use more speed and channels
[01:59] <bazhang> joanne, what command did you use to edit the sources.list
[01:59] <tenX_> mz|`: but n freq is higher
[01:59] <tijko> Does anybody know what the default screen test is on ubuntu?  Or how to call a screen test?
[02:00] <tijko> With the keyboard
[02:00] <mz|`> tenX_: exactly
[02:00] <oooaaaoooo> mz|`: ahh so it can still achieve high rates in the 2.xx band?
[02:00] <joanne> sudo mousepad /etc/sources.list
[02:00] <tenX_> mz|`: shouldnt that be the reason for higher speeds physically
[02:01] <mz|`> [10-06-12 03:58:56] <        mz|`> | frequency modifications to use more speed and channels
[02:01] <tenX_> mz|`: missed that
[02:01] <mz|`> no problem ;)
[02:02] <tenX_> mz|`: but i dont like the term modification in that context ;p
[02:02] <John> Hello! Can i insall Ubuntu on my devices? Or Ubuntu only for computers?
[02:02] <mz|`> poor english voacbulary, sorry
[02:02] <mz|`> will try to improve
[02:02] <oooaaaoooo> mz|`: oh so it switches to different frequenies depending on the load?
[02:02] <tenX_> mz|`: ah didnt mean to pick on that
[02:03] <tenX_> mz|`: not a native speaker myself
[02:03] <John> Can Ш insall Ubuntu on my devices? Or Ubuntu only for computers?
[02:03] <John> Can I insall Ubuntu on my devices? Or Ubuntu only for computers?
[02:03] <mz|`> John: dont spam.
[02:03] <joanne> bazhang, sudo mousepad /etc/sources.list
[02:03] <John> me not
[02:03] <John> Can I insall Ubuntu on my devices? Or Ubuntu only for computers?
[02:03] <mz|`> John: dont spam.
[02:03] <John> me not
[02:03] <bazhang> John, stop repeating
[02:04] <John> ok
[02:04] <oooaaaoooo> lol
[02:04] <tenX_> mz|`: it wont keep him off
[02:04] <John> And wehre answer?
[02:04] <John> where
[02:04] <oooaaaoooo> relax
[02:04] <bazhang> !helpme | John
[02:04] <John> What?
[02:04] <bazhang> John, read above
[02:04] <mz|`> we should add some on manners
[02:04] <mz|`> !manners
[02:05] <mz|`> oh cool
[02:05] <mz|`> ^^
[02:05] <oooaaaoooo> mz|`: thanx for the explanation
[02:05] <John> I can or not can?
[02:05] <mz|`> o/
[02:05] <tenX_> mz|`: thats nothing we can teach to guys like that anymore
[02:06] <John> Can I install Ubuntu on my Vibrator?
[02:06] <mz|`> they want answers, not learning, nor listening, may I suppose.
[02:06] <mz|`> your sex toy ?
[02:06] <John> yes
[02:06] <xangua> John stop that please
[02:06] <John> What it?
[02:07] <John> Yes im gay and what?
[02:07] <joanne> John, what part of don't repeat is the issue? Anyone who knows will tell you but have damn patience
[02:07] <Relondo> What's that, John? "Ban me, please!"
[02:07] <jagginess> !ops John
[02:07] <willian> Hi. everyone.
[02:07] <Relondo> *?
[02:07] <tijko> mz|` this is part of the reason I called this a joke
[02:07] <willian> Good morning.
[02:07] <joanne> bazhang, you saw my previous reply, yes?
[02:07] <tenX_> mz|`: and they want it immediately on inprecise questions
[02:07] <bazhang> joanne, yep
[02:08] <joanne> bazhang, ok, making sure lol
[02:08] <Relondo> Is there any way to "convert" a Wubi installation to a standard one?
[02:08] <tijko> tenX_ i wouldn't generalize with grouping in trolls
[02:08] <reisio> Relondo: yup
[02:08] <IdleOne> !wubi | Relondo yes there is
[02:08] <solangemauver> hola a todos
[02:08] <reisio> Relondo: I dare say just doing a standard install from scratch is simpler, though
[02:08] <joanne> !es | solangemauver
[02:08] <tenX_> tijko: not sure if that about trolling
[02:08] <jagginess> Relondo, it's more troutble than its worth.. the time spent doing that is the time you could of done a fresh install
[02:08] <solangemauver> hola
[02:08] <reisio> IdleOne: does that really answer his question?
[02:09] <jagginess> Relondo, you hve data on there you need to backup?
[02:09] <Relondo> Alright. Good thing I haven't installed much yet.
[02:09] <Relondo> Not particularly.
[02:09] <bazhang> reisio, its in the wubiguide, so sure
[02:09] <Relondo> Just thought it might be faster.
[02:09] <tijko> tenX_  you believe John was sincere?
[02:09] <IdleOne> reisio, it does, the wubi guide has a link on the right hand side convienently located :)
[02:09] <danil> Can anyone help me with my problem with my soundcard on ubuntu Oniric?
[02:09] <reisio> righto
[02:09] <Relondo> danil: Just explain the problem. Don't ask if you can ask.
[02:09] <jagginess> Relondo, so delete the loopback file or undelete wubi.. and backup your windows user data.. then try to install ubuntu
[02:09] <mz|`> tijko: don(t be a John.
[02:09] <Relondo> jagginess: Wait, what?
[02:10] <danil> It won't play sound...
[02:10] <mz|`>  don't
[02:10] <tijko> mz|` in what way?
[02:10] <mz|`> the John way :D
[02:10] <reisio> Relondo: that is: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[02:10] <jagginess> Relondo, see if you can free space on ntfs-- if you uninstall wubi.. see that uninstaller deletes the 4+ gig file it made.. it'll be somewhere in a subfolder in c:\
[02:10] <reisio> wasn't there something called 'lubi' that did it, too?
[02:11] <Relondo> Woah, slow down. NTFS?
[02:11] <danil> I looked at the forums (especially the tutorial about sound problems) but I think ubuntu is not correctly identifying my card.
[02:11] <reisio> Relondo: the file system Windows uses
[02:11] <jagginess> Relondo, this 4+ gig file that was made by wubi is a loopbackfile (you dont need to know-- but you should know that it's in 1 file)
[02:11] <thanmustoki> TechWizard looks around seeing whoes innocent.
[02:11] <tijko> mz|` I was frustrated and impatient for what I thought was a miniscule problem
[02:11] <reisio> Relondo: if you want you can backup your Wubi install data before deleting it, etc.
[02:11] <jagginess> reisio, no he doesnt
[02:11] <reisio> jagginess: who doesn't what?
[02:11] <tenX_> tijko: at first glance i thought so. the approach in general is encountered pretty often but you're right
[02:11] <jagginess> (he doesnt need to, he said)
[02:12] <reisio> he said not much, IIRC
[02:12] <Relondo> Yeah, this all seems a little complicated, and to be honest, I really only have a few things installed here.
[02:12] <reisio> and I used the word 'if'
[02:12] <reisio> English, it's a language
[02:12] <Relondo> But thanks for the help guys.
[02:12] <jagginess> (Relondo go for it-- uninstall wubi, and install ubuntu native after backign up your windows user data)
[02:12] <reisio> jagginess: and look he said it again ^ :p
[02:12] <tenX_> tijko: trolling without any background can be confusing
[02:12] <Relondo> Alright, thanks all. I'm out.
[02:13] <tijko> tenX_ I've seen trolling more in linux distribution channels
[02:13] <jagginess> reisio, he wanted to see if he can convert a wubi install to a native one-- it may be possible... but not worth the time doing so..
[02:13] <tijko> tenX_ but it is widespread
[02:13] <reisio> jagginess: yes I already commented on that about 500 buffers ago
[02:14] <reisio> if we're done explaining to ourselves what trolling is and isn't...
[02:14] <tenX_> tijko: sure :)
[02:15] <tenX_> tijko: if it at least had a personal touch on it
[02:16] <jagginess> reisio, that's pretty much useless to tell him to try migrating wubi-- command lines like that is not possible for someone new to linux..
[02:16] <jagginess> lol
[02:17] <tenX_> jagginess: wubi?
[02:17] <reisio> jagginess: you're still talking about something I had completely resolved before we even began discussing :p
[02:17] <reisio> let it go man
[02:18] <jagginess> reisio, I'm saying, if someone is new to linux, they won't do commands.. I'm just saying.. that's all.
[02:18] <wylde_> shhhhhh.....
[02:19] <reisio> jagginess: and I said the same thing, loooonnggg before you decided to say it to me
[02:20] <tenX_> wubi is an installer for windows? preventing it from overwriting mbr or what
[02:20] <MiJyn> tenX_ yes
[02:20] <MiJyn> it is an installer for windows
[02:21] <MiJyn> more or less to simplify things :D
[02:21] <tenX_> MiJyn: any other benefits?
[02:23] <reisio> tenX_: it's so you don't have to resize partitions, basically
[02:25] <tenX_> reisio: but why would you have to resize? in case your linux installation takes up all space on the drive?
[02:25] <thanmustoki> Who wants Beer!?!?!?
[02:25] <reisio> tenX_: most Windows installs are preinstalled, and take up the entire disk
[02:26] <reisio> thanmustoki: silly question
[02:26] <bazhang> thanmustoki, wrong channel
[02:26] <thanmustoki> sorry
[02:27] <thanmustoki> i have just try social script in irssi
[02:27] <tenX_> reisio: thought it was about the situation when linux was already installed - why else would you want to protect the mbr?
[02:27] <reisio> tenX_: it isn't about the MBR... I just said it was about not having to repartition
[02:28] <bazhang> thanmustoki, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat please
[02:28] <esing123> wjon i had to reinstall lubuntu packages
[02:28] <esing123> ansikt t43
[02:29] <esing123> did i downloaded the right ubuntu install CD: "ubuntu desktop 12.04" ?
[02:29] <reisio> esing123: i386 or amd64?
[02:29] <tenX_> reisio: that opposes to the other answer i received on my question and i cant recognize your scenario. if you install windows first u can simply partition the way u like
[02:30] <esing123> intel  pentium 1,8ghz
[02:30] <reisio> tenX_: as I said, Windows is not usually installed by its owner, most of the time it is _preinstalled_, and takes up the entire disk
[02:30] <reisio> esing123: grep ' lm' /proc/cpuinfo
[02:30] <esing123> i3
[02:30] <esing123> i only was uncertain due of the desktop
[02:30] <tenX_> reisio: okay so it helps you to take care of repartitioning. thx
[02:30] <esing123> i chose the right processor tho
[02:30] <reisio> esing123: desktop is what most people want, not for servers
[02:31] <esing123> oki
[02:31] <reisio> tenX_: it helps you insofar as you don't have to repartition _at all_, because Ubuntu is installed _into a file_ in the existing Windows filesystem
[02:31] <reisio> s/it helps/wubi helps/
[02:32] <tenX_> reisio: got your point thx for the explanation and patience. just interested take care of things myself :)
[02:32] <reisio> tenX_: np
[02:32] <esing123> n8
[02:37] <subcool> could someone tell me or forward me to a place i can get assistance troubleshooting my torrent problem?
[02:38] <joanne> how do I update with a alt cd?
[02:38] <jagginess> joanne, you should use what's the recommend way of upgrading..
[02:39] <joanne> jagginess, fron JAUNTY
[02:39] <reisio> subcool: what torrent problem
[02:50] <caesar_> my utorrent freezes when ran in wine
[02:50] <caesar_> after 10-15 minutes
[02:50] <caesar_> freezes my whole OS
[02:51] <IdleOne> #winehq
[02:51] <caesar_> ty
[02:53] <reisio> caesar_: use Deluge, it looks the same as µTorrent
[02:55] <caesar_> reisio: my private tracker doesn't allow newer version
[02:55] <caesar_> and i don't know how to install older version
[02:56] <peepsalot> are there any tools to limit browser (or overall) bandwidth for testing some web page loading
[02:57] <reisio> caesar_: well you should learn
[02:57] <reisio> caesar_: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
[03:00] <ravi> hi
[03:01] <ravi>  one question: can anybody tell me how to use .index file to locate words in .dict file inside freedict dictionary files? any help will be highly appreciated. :)
[03:02] <ravi> anybody there?
[03:03] <fleakite> hi
[03:03] <reisio> hi
[03:03] <Hganavak> Anyone recommend an alternative to OneNote?
[03:03] <ubuntu_64bit> what is ubuntu one
[03:04] <fleakite> !ubottu ubuntu one
[03:04] <ravi> ubuntu one is cloud service
[03:04] <ubuntu_64bit> ubuntu one concern with what fleakite
[03:04] <ravi> like dropbox
[03:04] <reisio> Hganavak: what is it?
[03:04] <fleakite> what ravi said
[03:04] <reisio> Hganavak: http://alternativeto.net/software/microsoft-onenote/?platform=linux
[03:05] <ravi> evernote?
[03:05] <bfgidujiodvbhjfd> 5
[03:05] <fully_human> I've been trying to follow this guide to set up an android build environment: http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html.  Unfortunately, this happens: http://pastebin.com/1JsNBqFt.  Why is this?  Thanks in advance.
[03:06] <duder123> hey I'm having a pain of a time trying to boot into the Ubutnu 12.04 live cd to get the install running
[03:06] <duder123> I've butnt it from ISO
[03:06] <duder123> verified the disk, and then even tested that it boots in a VM that's fine
[03:06] <ravi> then?
[03:06] <duder123> but when I go to boot the actual cd on this machine it's screwed
[03:06] <ubuntu_64bit> what is ubuntu one
[03:07] <ravi> screwed?
[03:07] <ravi> what it does?
[03:07] <reisio> ubuntu_64bit: it's online backup
[03:07] <duder123> it basically loads the screen with thelogo then goes to a black screen with a flashing "_"
[03:07] <fully_human> ubuntu_64bit: Ubuntu's cloud server, has a file sharing service, music store, and other stuff.
[03:07] <duder123> and it sits and flashed FOARVARRRR
[03:07] <fleakite> ubuntu_64bit, see https://one.ubuntu.com/about/
[03:07] <fleakite> read that
[03:07] <ravi>   one question: can anybody tell me how to use .index file to locate words in .dict file inside freedict dictionary files? any help will be highly appreciated. :)
[03:07] <ubuntu_64bit> fully_human, but i create an account but fails
[03:08] <ubuntu_64bit> reisio, , but i create an account but fails
[03:08] <ravi> duder123:  did u try other options from boot options?
[03:08] <fully_human> ubuntu_64bit: Do you mean you're denied access on the web portal?  Because the GUI is kinda screwy right now.
[03:09] <duder123> ravi: I don't get that far
[03:09] <reisio> ubuntu_64bit: #ubuntuone
[03:09] <ubuntu_64bit> yes reisio
[03:09] <duder123> I can see the loading screen, then that keyboard stuff at the bottom
[03:09] <reisio> ubuntu_64bit: I'm saying, ask in the #ubuntuone channel
[03:09] <duder123> and thenblack scren with _
[03:09] <ravi> when u put the cd in the drive and boot the computer then hold down arrow key and it would give u options
[03:10] <ubuntu_64bit> fully_human, i have been tried several times but  fails
[03:10] <ravi> like install/boot from drive/text install mode
[03:10]  * fully_human thinks that ubuntu_64bit should ask in #ubuntuone.
[03:11] <bfgidujiodvbhjfd> does anyone know how to get that Xerxes source code compiled
[03:11] <mi3> I want to display a continuous animation in that dock, is it possible to display one? the cairo-dock docs say nothing about using gif files for animation :D, need some suggestions :D
[03:11] <ubuntu_64bit> fully_human,  don ans me shortly  i think hre is whre i can get solution
[03:11] <ubuntu_64bit> fully_human,  don ans me shortly  i think hre is where i can get solution
[03:11] <duder123> anyone got any ideas?
[03:11] <duder123> ubuntu live cd just won't boot?
[03:12] <ravi> duder123:  when u put the cd in the drive and boot the computer then hold down arrow key and it would give u options
[03:12] <bfgidujiodvbhjfd> re do it on another cd
[03:12] <fully_human> ubuntu_64bit: Okay.  What exactly do you mean by "fails every time?"  Do you mean that when you register you can't log in?  Does it give an error message?
[03:12] <duder123> ravi: what arrow key?
[03:12] <mi3> duder123, change the BIOS settings, and boot from cd
[03:12] <duder123> ravi: <--?
[03:13] <duder123> mi3: yeah it's already booting the cd on boot
[03:13] <duder123> mi3: sorry I thought I made that clear above
[03:13] <ubuntu_64bit> fully_human, it gives errors massages
[03:13] <mi3> duder123, ok
[03:13] <Relondo> Can anyone recommend drive imaging software?
[03:13] <duder123> so I get the splash screen AFTER the cd loads from boot
[03:13] <ravi> duder123 : keyboard down arrow key
[03:13] <ravi> I think it would work with any key
[03:14] <ravi> then it gives some options
[03:14] <duder123> ravi: ok I'll try that
[03:14] <fully_human> ubuntu_64bit: Can you paste it?  (If it's more than 3 lines, PASTE IT AT PASTEBIN.COM).
[03:14] <duder123> ravi: what option is the best for this problem?
[03:14] <ravi> see I think it might happen due to display problem also
[03:14] <ravi> it does happen sometime
[03:15] <Relondo> How can I make my Windows 7 boot files unalterable from Ubuntu, so no one can screw with my installation?
[03:15] <duder123> ravi: ok I got the menu - I'll try a few options here - thanks!
[03:15] <ravi> Relondo :  change settings for win7 drive -- authority in fstab file
[03:15] <ravi> :)
[03:16] <mi3> I want to display a continuous animation in that dock, is it possible to display one? the cairo-dock docs say nothing about using gif files for animation :D, need some suggestions :D
[03:16] <Relondo> ravi: How do I get to that?
[03:16] <ravi> u need to see how to change fstab file settings
[03:16] <reisio> mi3: try a GIF, see what happens
[03:17] <Relondo> ravi: Yes.
[03:17] <mi3> reisio, ok, it wont cause problems, will it ?
[03:17] <reisio> Relondo: most people don't know how to do that
[03:17] <caffine> how do i find out why my hard drive light is on constantly?
[03:17] <reisio> Relondo: make a backup of your "boot files" if you like
[03:17] <bsmith093> i have a huge text file ( NOT HTML) literal text, and i need all the links pulled out and assembled into a new file one per line. is there a regexp, or something for that the format of the links i need are like this, http://www.fanfiction.net/s/433561/1/ but the number changes, not necessarliy unique just needs the "/s/" instead of the "/u/", there are about 1800 of these links and i really dont want to have to do this by hand
[03:17] <reisio> caffine: iotop?
[03:17] <Relondo> reisio: I probably will, but it'd just be easier if I could hide them or something.
[03:17] <reisio> mi3: I imagine the worst case scenario would involve... removing the GIF by doing the reverse of what you did to add it
[03:17] <ravi> Relondo :  http://superuser.com/questions/346606/is-there-any-gui-tool-to-configure-etc-fstab
[03:17] <reisio> Relondo: I'm not sure non-admins are even able to alter them
[03:18] <pikkachu> hi, it seems grub 2 is chain loading what's in the boot sector of an old hard disk. That is, additionally to the normal items it should display, it also displays what the other grub 2 in the old drive used to show, but which is invalid now (it showed old OSes which are now deleted). How to erase grub from the old disk? boot data?
[03:18] <Relondo> reisio: Another thing: How do I access the almighty root account?
[03:18] <reisio> Relondo: oh from your Linux install, non-root users won't be able to alter
[03:18] <reisio> Relondo: the "Ubuntu way" is to use sudo for everything
[03:18] <cheguan> bazhang, you around?
[03:18] <bsmith093> as an example here is what im talking about  "Story: The Yugi FilesStorylink: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/433561/1/ Category: Anime X-oversAuthor: Nate GreyLast updated: 03/15/2002Source: FanFiction.net"
[03:18] <reisio> Relondo: you can create users without that access via the account wizard, IIRC
[03:18] <Relondo> reisio: Using the terminal is still really foreign to me.
[03:19] <reisio> Relondo: you can also use gksudo or something like that
[03:19] <bfgidujiodvbhjfd> gbkgo;dv
[03:19] <reisio> Relondo: for graphical usage
[03:19] <reisio> Relondo: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab or something like that, probs
[03:19] <duder123> ravi: I've just tried about all of the options and it still won't boot into them
[03:20] <duder123> ravi: the test memory option works
[03:20] <duder123> ravi: and memory seems fine
[03:20] <gozon> is there any global equalizer for the ubuntu platform?
[03:20] <duder123> ravi: all the others go to a flashing _
[03:20] <reisio> gozon: you can use one with pulseaudio I believe, yes
[03:20] <Relondo> reisio: I have a vague concept of using sudo as a prefix for practically every command, but other than that and "top", I know zilch about terminal commands.
[03:20] <gozon> reisio, also has any?
[03:20] <gozon> alsa
[03:20] <reisio> you can use one with alsa alone, too, but Ubuntu uses pulseaudio on top of ALSA by default
[03:20] <reisio> gozon: have you removed pulse?
[03:20] <ravi> duder123 :  then I cant say much ... is ur cd drive and written data fine on disk?
[03:21] <reisio> Relondo: you don't really need to, but it can really increase your efficiency if you learn some
[03:21] <gozon> reisio,  i prefer no to mess with pulse audio
[03:21] <cheguan> bazhang, you there? i heard your mom likes to blow goats. any truth to the rumours?
[03:21] <cheguan> hahahah
[03:21] <duder123> ravi: yeah I checked that, I can boot into it by reading the physical disk into a virtual machine
[03:21] <reisio> gozon: so you didn't uninstall or disable pulseaudio?
[03:21] <gozon> reisio,  nope
[03:21] <duder123> ravi: over vmware
[03:21] <reisio> gozon: okay, then you should probably look for an equalizer for pulse
[03:22] <Relondo> reisio: Does the Ubuntu terminal function in any way similarly to the Windows command line?
[03:22] <caffine> reisio: once in a while something pops up in iotop, but most of the time it's empty.  jbd2/sda4 keeps popping up. is there anything else i can check? in the past, the light did seem to work properly.
[03:22] <gozon> reisio, perhaps?
[03:22] <reisio> Relondo: in an incredibly vague way they're equivalents, yes
[03:22] <bsmith093> how do i parse a text file for url strings?
[03:22] <reisio> Relondo: Windows' command line options are incredibly underdeveloped in comparison, is all
[03:22] <ravi> then u can try changing some options in boot options .. give some kernel options
[03:23] <Relondo> reisio: I mean, I get that they are the same concept, but can I, for instance, "start www.ubuntu.com"
[03:23] <reisio> Relondo: what does 'start' do, open the site in a browser?
[03:23] <Relondo> reisio: Or "ipconfig"
[03:23] <Relondo> reisio: Yes.
[03:23] <reisio> Relondo: there are equivalents for all that, yes
[03:23] <reisio> Relondo: firefox http://www.ubuntu.com/
[03:23] <Relondo> reisio: And if it's a raw IP, not an address, I believe it pings the computer.
[03:23] <reisio> ipconfig equiv is probably ifconfig
[03:23] <reisio> Relondo: ping for pinging
[03:24] <caffine> bsmith093: depending on the format of the file, one of these might be your answer: grep, sed, or perl
[03:24] <Relondo> reisio: Makes sense.
[03:25] <bsmith093> caffine: the url strings are seperated by spaces so they should be easy to pickout automatically , so whats the grep for that?
[03:25] <Relondo> reisio: I was wondering, are viruses really just a non-issue for Ubuntu?
[03:25] <reisio> Relondo: virtually, to date, yes
[03:25] <Relondo> reisio: Or should I still pick up some AV and Firewall software?
[03:25] <ravi> Relondo : no need
[03:25] <reisio> Relondo: an AV will help you keep yourself from accidentally spreading win32 viruses to win32 users
[03:25] <reisio> Relondo: for servers it will help save your bandwidth from being eaten up by email viruses
[03:25] <ravi> reisio : good answere
[03:25] <reisio> Relondo: but not much else
[03:26] <Relondo> reisio: I mean, surely SOMEONE out there is building worms for Linux
[03:26] <reisio> Relondo: there are viruses and the like
[03:26] <reisio> Relondo: but to date they have been of the PoC variety
[03:26] <reisio> and usually only worked on already outdated kernels, etc.
[03:26] <Relondo> reisio: PoC?
[03:26] <reisio> proof of concept
[03:26] <reisio> as in 'look this can happen', but not so much 'look this _has_ happened'
[03:26] <caffine> bsmith093: maybe something like "grep http *" ?   there aren't enough details on what you're doing or what you want to get out. :)  it may be better to have a quick look through the man pages of those commands and see which one best matches your needs.
[03:26] <reisio> the nature of open source software and Unix package management makes it a lot harder
[03:27] <reisio> any code can and is frequently audited
[03:27] <reisio> and because it's free you are always able to easily update all your software at once
[03:27] <reisio> additionally, historically a lot of viruses/badware targetted at Windows has been created by people who don't like Microsoft
[03:27] <bfgidujiodvbhjfd> coolest desktop backgrounds for backtrack 5 r2 here //192.168.2.18:8080/My_Pictures
[03:27] <Relondo> reisio: Hm. So just don't visit linuxvirusesforyour.com and I'll be fine :/
[03:27] <reisio> some did it to expose flaws in Windows that Microsoft knew about but refused to patch, etc.
[03:28] <ravi> can anybody help me to read .index file in freedict file? and tell me how to relate it with .dict file?
[03:28] <reisio> Relondo: it's pretty unlikely it will be an issue any time soon
[03:28] <Bryan> hello. i am trying to put ubuntu on my laptop no internet i can connect it to and it has been sitting "thinking" for over an hour is this normal?
[03:28] <reisio> Relondo: when a Unix system like GNU/Linux is the most popular OS, it may become more of an issue
[03:28] <Relondo> reisio: I just feel kinda...naked browsing the internet without a firewall or something.
[03:28] <reisio> Relondo: but in general even then, the proactive security of a Unix system compared to Windows is like night and day
[03:28] <Relondo> reisio: That's what years of Windows does to you, I guess.
[03:28] <reisio> Relondo: well you can configure your firewall if you want :)
[03:29] <reisio> Relondo: yeah :p
[03:29] <ravi> Relondo : good one
[03:29] <Relondo> reisio: I read somewhere that Linux, by default, completely ignores any unauthorized incoming connections.
[03:29] <reisio> Bryan: is the problem getting internet, or installing Ubuntu?
[03:29] <bfgidujiodvbhjfd> guys go here        //192.168.2.18:8080/My_Pictures
[03:29] <reisio> Relondo: well different distros are configured in different ways
[03:29] <reisio> Relondo: it's pretty darn secure by default, though
[03:29] <bazhang> bfgidujiodvbhjfd, wrong channel
[03:30] <reisio> 192 :)
[03:30] <Bryan> instaling
[03:30] <reisio> Bryan: you're installing from a CD image?
[03:30] <Relondo> reisio: I can't but help but wonder-how does it decide if it's "unauthorized"?
[03:30] <caffine> doesn't ubuntu install with a firewall anyways? basic stuff like blocking incoming ports unless you allow it?
[03:30] <reisio> Relondo: talk to #netfilter about it
[03:30] <Bryan> no i made boot usb
[03:30] <reisio> well it doesn't come with ssh installed/enabled
[03:31] <reisio> which is quite a good security measure for those who don't need it
[03:31] <caffine> reisio: the 192 makes me wonder if he really doesn't have a clue or is just a robot. :p
[03:31] <reisio> Bryan: and what's happening?
[03:31] <reisio> caffine: :p
[03:31] <Relondo> reisio: SSH?
[03:31] <surt> Hi, I see no splash screen on boot. If I hit escape, I can't see boot information either. Both grub and the kernel I'm booting are set successfully to 1280x1024 (the monitor confirms this), but I can't see anything.
[03:32] <reisio> Relondo: ssh is the standard way to do command line remote administration
[03:32] <Bryan> it began its boot procces then said i should connect to internet. not required and i dont have another ethernet cable now it has been sitting doing the "hour glass" pointer for over an hour and nothing has happened
[03:32] <caffine> interesting. that must have been one of the first things i installed. i have a hard time imagining a world without ssh. :p
[03:32] <reisio> Relondo: it's very secure, but having it enabled is necessarily less secure than not having it enabled
[03:32] <reisio> caffine: indeed
[03:32] <celthunder> reisio: ssh sholud be installed all the time..it should be part of min install...pretty much if it boots and ssh works you can fix pretty much anything even if not there
[03:32] <reisio> celthunder: yes, but it isn't :)
[03:32] <reisio> I believe Ubuntu ships with a VNC server by default, however
[03:32] <reisio> which is roughly equivalent
[03:32] <Relondo> reisio: The Windows equivalent is enabled by default. I can shut down most any PC from here.
[03:32] <reisio> also disabled by default, however
[03:33] <reisio> Relondo: right, and that's part of why Windows is less secure
[03:33] <Relondo> reisio: MINE IS STILL ON. GOD, HOW HAVE I NOT TURNED THAT OFF YET!?
[03:33] <satyriasis>  /part
[03:33] <reisio> Relondo: heh
[03:34] <Relondo> reisio: I've known about the function for quite some time and I never though to disable it.
[03:34] <reisio> terminal services?
[03:34] <reisio> well if you haven't had any problems yet
[03:34] <Relondo> reisio: It's just a nasty backdoor.
[03:34] <reisio> if you don't use it, indeed
[03:35] <Relondo> reisio: Anyway, I've had trouble installing things for Ubuntu, recently. What, exactly, CAN Linux execute? (As in file types).
[03:35] <RBV> apt-get install whatever
[03:36] <RBV> How is that giving trouble to you
[03:36] <reisio> Relondo: "Linux" on its own, only things built for it, or your average POSIX application
[03:37] <reisio> Relondo: that is, not .exe's, and not whatever Mac OS uses
[03:37] <reisio> not without Wine or mono, etc.
[03:37] <Relondo> reisio: "That Mac crap". Anyway, go on.
[03:38] <Bryan> really can someone just talk me through the instalation procces for ubuntu?
[03:38] <caffine> reisio: so if there's nothing that's constantly in iotop and i'm seeing pretty much 0% wa in regular top, is the light maybe just screwed up and my hard drive isn't constantly running?  i don't hear it, but it's SATA.
[03:38] <reisio> Bryan: what part is causing you trouble?
[03:38] <reisio> Relondo: that's about it
[03:38] <reisio> caffine: did you mention it was a VM guest?
[03:38] <Relondo> Bryan: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/install-ubuntu-desktop
[03:39] <Relondo> reisio: I mean, what does the standard program run as?
[03:39] <caffine> reisio: no VMs running at the moment. hardly even any applications. even when nobody was logged in, the light was on.
[03:39] <reisio> Relondo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executable_and_Linkable_Format
[03:39] <Bryan> reisio well after it asked me to connect to the internet and i did not becasue it is not required it has been siiting here with no text on screen for over an hour
[03:40] <reisio> Relondo: the older formats ('Applications' section) will also work
[03:40] <reisio> Relondo: as well as any script files which you have interpreters present for, perl, bash, sh, python, etc.
[03:40] <reisio> Bryan: hrmmm, I'm not sure it should even ask you unless you check, for example, 'download updates while installing'
[03:40] <reisio> Bryan: maybe you did that?
[03:41] <reisio> caffine: I'm not sure, but I've heard people have that problem before, might ask #linux
[03:41] <Relondo> reisio: So what are .tar.ghz files?
[03:41] <Bryan> reisio maybe i did but either way if i turn it off to cancel the instalation will it harm my computer?
[03:41] <caffine> reisio: okey dokey. i don't care if the light's broken. just don't want to burn out my hard drive. :p  i'll check over there in a bit. thanks!
[03:42] <fgdgdgdretrtrgge> visit this website has the craziest, grossest videos     //192.168.2.18:8080/video/97_d3.com
[03:42] <caffine> Relondo: .tar.gz  ?   those are gzipped tar files.
[03:42] <reisio> Relondo: .tar is an archive, man tar; .gz is compression, man gzip
[03:42] <reisio> Relondo: AKA "tarball"
[03:42] <reisio> Relondo: a common format for generic redistribution of stuff
[03:42] <reisio> but especially source code
[03:42] <Relondo> reisio: Sorry, I added an "H" there.
[03:42] <reisio> and static binaries that someone was too lazy to make a .deb/.rpm for
[03:43] <reisio> Relondo: I knows :p
[03:43] <reisio> fgdgdgdretrtrgge: so gross!
[03:43] <Relondo> reisio: So what file type should I look for when choosing options to install something? .puff?
[03:44] <reisio> Relondo: well you should start with Ubuntu Software Center (the topmost frontend to Ubuntu's [Debian's] package manager, dpkg)
[03:44] <reisio> if that doesn't have your package, you'd want to look for a .deb file
[03:44] <reisio> .deb for Debian
[03:44] <reisio> Ubuntu is based off Debian, you see
[03:44] <Relondo> reisio: SO really almost everything for Ubuntu is in the Software Center?
[03:44] <reisio> Relondo: almost everything, yes
[03:44] <Relondo> reisio: And yes, I did know that it was a splinter of Debian.
[03:45] <reisio> Debian is the most popular Unix of all time, and it has tens of thousands of precompiled binaries in .deb format available to it
[03:45] <reisio> and Ubuntu adds to the popularity of .deb
[03:45] <reisio> sometimes for licensing reasons available .deb files will not be included in the official repositories
[03:46] <reisio> in that case you can add an unofficial third party repo, or manually obtain and install the .deb file
[03:46] <Relondo> reisio: Wait, Debian is Unix? I thought it was Linux.
[03:46] <reisio> Relondo: 'Debian' is a lot of things
[03:46] <reisio> a (GNU/)Linux distro among them
[03:46] <reisio> but GNU or "Linux" is a de facto Unix system
[03:46] <reisio> it's a Unix clone, and one of the original Unix co-creators considered it a generic Unix
[03:47] <Bryan> okay i got the problem fixed dad made the boot usb for me it got corrupted somehow now everything will be great
[03:47] <Relondo> reisio: I think I need a history lesson. I was pretty sure Linux started from Unix, but then they pretty much went their separate ways and were pretty different.
[03:47] <reisio> since most applications that work for Linux also work for non-Linux Unix systems (and vice versa), I find broadly referring to "Unix" more appropriate frequently
[03:47] <reisio> Bryan: gj
[03:47] <Relondo> reisio: Used too many "pretty"'s.
[03:47] <reisio> Relondo: no, "Linux" is a simple clone of Unix, it is not very much evolved at all
[03:48] <Relondo> reisio: So what's Ubuntu?
[03:48] <Bryan> does anyone mind if i ask abunch of questions now i have never used ubuntu before
[03:48] <reisio> there's a saying that Unix put operating system design back a decade, and Linux put it back three or four decades :p
[03:48] <reisio> Relondo: Ubuntu is a GNU/Linux distribution
[03:48] <reisio> or a "Linux" distribution, as is commonly said
[03:48] <reisio> which is a generic Unix system
[03:48] <reisio> Bryan: ask away
[03:48] <Relondo> reisio: ...so we're using forty-year-old OS's.
[03:48] <reisio> Relondo: mostly, yup :p
[03:49] <reisio> Relondo: not that it was such a bad design
[03:49] <sms> hi
[03:49] <reisio> but if we were truly progressive, we'd be on something else by now
[03:49] <Bryan> haha that is is a good thing!! windows murdered itself after xp
[03:49] <Relondo> reisio: Newnix?
[03:49] <reisio> hard to get people to use only slightly better things, though, it usually takes _massively_ better things to get them interested
[03:49] <sms> im ued game in linux battlfield 3 ho
[03:49] <reisio> otherwise it's just trickle-down improvement
[03:49] <Relondo> reisio: Seriously, what's old about Unix/Linux?
[03:49] <reisio> sms: hrmm?
[03:50] <sms> im spking english no good
[03:50] <reisio> Relondo: Unix... was created in four decades ago, and "Linux" is only trivially different
[03:50] <reisio> s/in four/four/
[03:50] <reisio> sms: what do you speak good?
[03:51] <sms> ho to install gmaes battlfied 3 in ubuntu 12.4
[03:51] <reisio> sms: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/locallanguage#arabic
[03:51] <sk8|> wine
[03:51] <reisio> sms: http://www.google.com/search?q="battlefield%203"%20site%3Aappdb.winehq.org
[03:51] <Bryan> alright so will ubuntu run any program my old windows computer does?
[03:52] <Relondo> reisio: Haven't we added on in the meantime?
[03:52] <reisio> sms: it has a very poor rating, so it might not be possible with Wine
[03:52] <reisio> Relondo: yes, just not much
[03:52] <reisio> Relondo: most large improvement would require a ground-up rewrite of a lot of things
[03:52] <sk8|> evening
[03:52] <reisio> Bryan: nope
[03:52] <Relondo> reisio: So what you're telling me is to go back to Windows.
[03:52] <sk8|> ./morning
[03:52] <reisio> Bryan: but for most you will be able to find native replacements
[03:52] <sancas> aaalways... always when i update my kernel i have problems with my display drivers... and i dont know why... :(
[03:52] <reisio> Bryan: and for many you can use Wine if you really want to
[03:52] <tenX_> reisio: can you run such recent games on wine?
[03:52] <reisio> Relondo: nope
[03:53] <sancas> anyone have any idea?
[03:53] <reisio> tenX_: yes, if the game was not quite poorly made
[03:53] <reisio> tenX_: Wine is an implementation of win32, you see
[03:53] <sancas> i have ati hd 5750
[03:53] <Relondo> reisio: So you're saying Linux is old but Windows is worse.
[03:53] <Bryan> well really the big deal is skype only way to keep intouch with family
[03:53] <reisio> but some games are programmed assuming Windows, not win32
[03:53] <tenX_> reisio: considering the fact they might have concentrated on origin development i'm not quite sure
[03:53] <reisio> Relondo: well they aren't necessarily the same thing, old and bad
[03:53] <sk8|> anyone have issues with wifi drivers in 12.04?
[03:54] <tenX_> reisio: i've played with wine here and there back in the days, know what its about
[03:54] <sk8|> i've been beating my head all day
[03:54] <reisio> Relondo: as old as the Unix design is, I'd call it quite superior to all the Windows OS designs, yes
[03:54] <Relondo> reisio: Ah.
[03:54] <sk8|> wrapper = no go
[03:54] <reisio> World of Warcraft, for example, runs great in Wine
[03:54] <reisio> this is because Blizzard is pretty good at making quality software
[03:55] <sk8|> seems that my connection is sporadic and almost none existent
[03:55] <duder123> does ubuntu log anyting when the install disk is running?
[03:55] <tenX_> reisio: but from my point of view its very hard to implement windows structures within another os
[03:55] <Bryan> what does kernel panic mean?
[03:55] <duder123> if things go wrong can the log field be read?
[03:55] <reisio> duder123: like what?
[03:55] <tenX_> reisio: although the might be doing a great job
[03:55] <duder123> before the GUI gets loaded
[03:55] <reisio> Bryan: sort of like a BSOD, it usually means you did something wrong
[03:55] <reisio> duder123: what not when
[03:55] <tenX_> reisio: and things probably have improved a lot
[03:55] <duder123> reisio: I'm having a rel problem just booting into the live CD
[03:55] <reisio> tenX_: it's easy, really, Wine is proof of that
[03:56] <duder123> I don't know what the problem is
[03:56] <sk8|> Bryan, fatal error
[03:56] <Bryan> lovely okay reisio
[03:56] <duder123> If I chose any option, I can get the memtest to work
[03:56] <tenX_> reisio: i know its pretty easy to use
[03:56] <reisio> but Wine is not about replicating every Windows quirk, it's about replicating the win32 API
[03:56] <duder123> but nothing more than than reisio
[03:56] <reisio> some applications assume certain things instead of using win32 properly
[03:56] <tenX_> reisio: but some whacknesses of windows cant be transported i'd think
[03:57] <Relondo> You can check the Wine forums; they have a huge list of evaluated Windows programs.
[03:57] <reisio> Relondo: if you want to read up on it, Windows NT (current Windows) is based on VMS, which is also a pretty old design
[03:57] <reisio> Relondo: old and massively less popular :p
[03:57] <reisio> tenX_: maybe, but it's more about not wanting to transport it, IMO
[03:57] <tenX_> Relondo: i'm sure not trying to disrespect that effort
[03:58] <Relondo> reisio: The only thing that's stopping me from getting rid of Windows completely is accessibility.
[03:58] <reisio> I dare say Wine is more concerned with getting -quality- applications working than random poorly made games :D
[03:58] <reisio> Relondo: accessibility?
[03:58] <Bryan> umm now it says tracing call...
[03:58] <tenX_> reisio: well but some things must be transported to get things to work
[03:58] <reisio> Relondo: that's odd, I've always thought Unixland accessibility was massively superior
[03:58] <reisio> Relondo: can you elaborate?
[03:58] <Relondo> reisio: Most programs aren't built with Linux in mind.
[03:59] <reisio> Relondo: that's not true, actually
[03:59] <duder123> humm reisio I seem to have gotten further this time - I went to "more options" and turned everyting on, now it boots the CD I don't know which setting is the one it doesn't like though
[03:59] <reisio> Relondo: it's true a lot of very popular commercial applications designed for Windows are not built for Linux
[03:59] <Relondo> reisio: (Program accessibility. I've already noticed that accessibility options are much better on Ubuntu)
[03:59] <reisio> Relondo: but if you actually measured the amount of applications for Unix vs those for Windows, I'm not sure Unix wouldn't have more
[03:59] <tenX_> reisio: what happened to ut2k7 support
[03:59] <reisio> Relondo: okay, what programs are you concerned about?
[03:59] <reisio> tenX_: no idea
[04:00] <reisio> duder123: doesn't really matter if you get through the install, right?
[04:00] <Relondo> reisio: I'm a big gamer.
[04:00] <tenX_> reisio: find it so great steam is going to be ported
[04:00] <duder123> resno: no I guess it shouldn't
[04:00] <reisio> Relondo: ah
[04:00] <duder123> resno: unless one of those flags is necessary when I boot nrmally
[04:00] <reisio> Relondo: well you might want to keep Windows on a partition if you really want to use certain games
[04:00] <reisio> tenX_: could be fun
[04:01] <reisio> duder123: more likely it's only an issue to the installer
[04:01] <reisio> duder123: this channel isn't going anywhere, though
[04:01] <Relondo> reisio: I know that Linux is probably far superior as far as the average person's browsing and email sending needs.
[04:01] <Relondo> reisio: Yeah, I think I'll give my Ubuntu 50 of my 450 gigs and go from there. I'll use gparted if I start to run out of space.
[04:01] <tenX_> Relondo: not sure if superior meets it
[04:02] <reisio> Relondo: you can always store simple files on the NTFS partition/s, too
[04:02] <Relondo> reisio: What do you mean?
[04:02] <reisio> Relondo: I mean you can read & write your Windows file systems from Ubuntu
[04:02] <reisio> so if you have a music directory, say, in Windows
[04:02] <reisio> that will also be easily accessible from Ubuntu
[04:02] <Relondo> reisio: True. I have done that already.
[04:03] <reisio> :D
[04:03] <tenX_> Relondo: repost, superior?
[04:03] <reisio> you can also read & write Ubuntu stuff from Windows under certain circumstances
[04:03] <Relondo> reisio: But can I change what folders Ubuntu thinks are my pictures, music, etc, to be those from Windows, so I don't have to maintain two sets of music folders?
[04:03] <Relondo> tenX_: What?
[04:04] <reisio> Relondo: yes, just be careful :)
[04:04] <tenX_> Relondo: I know that Linux is probably far superior as far as the average person's browsing and email sending needs
[04:04] <Relondo> reisio: I mean, I won't HAVE to, but I'd like to be able to use those handy shortcuts on the sides of my "Ubuntu explorer", for lack of a better term.
[04:04] <Relondo> tenX_: What of it?
[04:04] <reisio> Relondo: right
[04:05] <tenX_> Relondo: thats what i'm wondering
[04:05] <reisio> Relondo: you can probably just add a line in /etc/fstab to mount the dir at /home/foo/Music or whatever
[04:05] <tenX_> Relondo: why it was superior
[04:05] <Relondo> reisio: Because it's annoying to have to go File System>Boot(I think?)>Users>NAME WITHHELD>Music
[04:05] <reisio> Relondo: UUID=whatever /home/foo/Music ntfs-3g defaults 0 0 or something like that
[04:06] <Relondo> tenX_: Faster, more secure.
[04:06] <reisio> you might need to set a userid in addition to defaults
[04:06] <reisio> Relondo: I s'pose
[04:06] <reisio> Relondo: you could also mount them to ~/WindowsStuffo/foo, too
[04:06] <reisio> but it should be fine to mount them over your ~/Music, etc.
[04:06] <Relondo> reisio: Don't know how to do that.
[04:06] <reisio> Relondo: I just said :)
[04:07] <Relondo> reisio: Oh, that UUID thing?
[04:07] <reisio> Relondo: yes
[04:07] <Relondo> reisio: Ah.
[04:07] <tenX_> Relondo: more secure agreed from the point its not targeted on a wide base
[04:07] <reisio> Relondo: although actually you'd want to setup a mount point like /mnt/windows
[04:07] <Relondo> reisio: ...do you just hang out here and help people for fun?
[04:07] <reisio> Relondo: and then simply symlink the specific dir/s from ~/Music
[04:07] <reisio> Relondo: not exactly fun, but yes :p
[04:07] <Relondo> tenX_: Yep. I'm considering, if/when my mom wants a netbook or something, making it an Ubuntu box.
[04:08] <tenX_> Relondo: noticably faster i'm not sure. probably on older hardware
[04:08] <Relondo> reisio: Nice. Anyway, I gotta go.
[04:08] <reisio> adios
[04:08] <Relondo> reisio: Good chat, thanks for all the help.
[04:08] <reisio> thank hea-ven
[04:08] <reisio> np peace
[04:08] <tenX_> c ya
[04:08] <littlegirl> Hey there, does anybody here use the GNOME Mallard markup language?
[04:08] <Relondo> Laters.
[04:09] <reisio> littlegirl: might want to talk to irc.gnome.org
[04:09] <littlegirl> reisio: Not the #gnome channel in here? I tried that and have gotten no response.
[04:10] <tuxgeek> ,
[04:10] <reisio> littlegirl: all the more reason to try GNOME's own IRC network
[04:10] <littlegirl> reisio: Will do, thanks. (:
[04:10] <reisio> littlegirl: probably mostly developers, though, so you might have to be patient
[04:10] <reisio> but if you go to irc.gnome.org
[04:10] <tenX_> reisio: is it window based?
[04:11] <reisio> there may well be a channel just for mallard
[04:11]  * reisio shrugs
[04:11] <reisio> tenX_: what?
[04:11] <littlegirl> tenX: Nope.
[04:11] <littlegirl> reisio: I'll try to be patient. (:
[04:11] <tenX_> reisio: their network ;) or why would they need their own
[04:11] <reisio> GNOME? Is an enormous project
[04:11] <tenX_> reisio: nm just kidding
[04:11]  * reisio shrugs
[04:12] <littlegirl> Well, I'm off to irc.gnome.org - thanks for the help!
[04:12] <tenX_> seemingly only funny to me :(
[04:13] <reisio> sometimes it's hard to pull off a joke textually
[04:14] <tenX_> reisio: appreciate the support ;)
[04:14] <til4k> even though i used 64-bit windows (for 6 gigs of ram and a 64 bit processor) is it safer to use 32 bit ubuntu to avoid compatibility issues
[04:15] <til4k> i mean like does the logic follow tht its possible i could conceivably have components compatible on 32 bit but not 64
[04:15] <tenX_> til4k: what issues?
[04:15] <til4k> what gives me pause is the (recommended) next to 32
[04:16] <til4k> Tenx_: ATI video ?
[04:16] <til4k> the proprietary driver seems to always do more harm than good
[04:16] <til4k> but im doing a fresh install i want to do it right this time
[04:16] <til4k> im on linux mint 13 but not interested, im used to unity
[04:17] <tenX_> til4k: ah okay its more stable on 32 bit or what?
[04:17] <til4k> tenx_: dunno
[04:17] <tenX_> til4k: :D
[04:17] <til4k> im going to go with 32 this time
[04:17] <til4k> maybe ill have more uck
[04:17] <til4k> ;uck
[04:17] <til4k> luck, excuse me
[04:17] <til4k> more out-of-the-box luck i mean
[04:17] <tenX_> til4k: hmm cant see the reasons on that
[04:18] <tenX_> if a linux 64 bit driver exists
[04:18] <til4k> all right
[04:18] <tenX_> those proprietary drivers (nvidia for me) have been causing most crashes on linux for me
[04:19] <til4k> why is 32 bit "recommended"
[04:19] <til4k> yeah same with me and ATI Catalyst
[04:19] <tenX_> regardless of 32/64
[04:20] <til4k> !torrent
[04:20] <til4k> !mirrors
[04:20] <New0> trying to make My Passport 1TB to Ubuntu installation disk. but usb-creator say: Failed to install the bootloader. why? the partition is NTFS 20GB
[04:20] <til4k> you guys should make a XMPP bot out of ubottu =P
[04:21] <tenX_> til4k: read up on that a year ago and couldnt find a real good reason. stability concerns without specific mentionings seemed to have lead to the 32 bit recommendation
[04:21] <til4k> all right ill go 64 again
[04:22] <tenX_> til4k: there have been changes on the compatibilty layer since ubuntu 11 i guess
[04:23] <tenX_> til4k: ran into that with some proprietary linux application making it unable to run
[04:24] <Lil> anyone good with svn?
[04:24] <til4k> tenX_: yeah it improves resolution for like a few days
[04:24] <til4k> and then an update might come along and make trouble
[04:24] <til4k> i have to read the troubleshooting thread
[04:24] <tenX_> til4k: been hit by that so many times ;)
[04:24] <til4k> where you like, edit the .conf files or whatever theyre called
[04:25] <til4k> i skimmed it and got overwhelmed
[04:25] <tenX_> til4k: that can be really annoying on linux
[04:25] <til4k> yeah
[04:25] <til4k> it keeps getting closer and closer though
[04:25] <tenX_> til4k: it's come such a long way
[04:25] <til4k> im not an IT person i seriously am looking for just window-liek out of the box usability
[04:26] <tenX_> til4k: what are u missing?
[04:26] <til4k> tenX_: I agree ive been dual booting since intrepid ibex
[04:26] <til4k> i just like having the option of a small windows installation in case i need windows
[04:27] <tenX_> til4k: yeah okay for some apps sure
[04:27] <tenX_> til4k: but what is missing for your needs on linux with the wm of your choice?
[04:28] <tenX_> if it's not a specific piece of software
[04:28] <til4k> tenX_: well, i like messing around with rooting and flashing android
[04:28] <til4k> all those turnkey programs are for windows
[04:28] <til4k> otherwise you have to follow long command line tutorials
[04:28] <til4k> theres an example
[04:29] <til4k> i like evernote
[04:29] <tenX_> til4k: okay thats not what i was about besides i'd prefer the command line approach
[04:29] <til4k> and MS OneNote
[04:29] <tenX_> that is about specific software
[04:29] <tenX_> was talking about general wm usage
[04:29] <til4k> whats wm
[04:29] <tenX_> window manager
[04:29] <tenX_> like gnome or so
[04:29] <til4k> tenX_: you do comps for a living righ
[04:29] <til4k> right
[04:30] <til4k> i get the sense a lot of linux users do
[04:30] <til4k> im just the dumb joe user
[04:30] <til4k> i dunno wm
[04:30] <til4k> ;P
[04:30] <tenX_> til4k: not sure if its for living or dying ;)
[04:30] <til4k> well i consider myself a computer hobbyist
[04:30] <til4k> i know a lot more than most people
[04:31] <til4k> which isnt much =P
[04:31] <tenX_> thats my view on things as well
[04:31] <tenX_> might be a bit more
[04:32] <tenX_> but always aware of people with deeper knowledge
[04:32] <tenX_> and very thankful to any contributor of the OS and software i use for free
[04:32] <til4k> tenX_: I will say considering all the time i spent on the computer growing up (im 26) i really blew it playing CS or FPS or Starcraft or UO rather than spending time in communities like these
[04:32] <akSeya> hi there.. folks, I need some help to set up a bluetooth keyboard and mouse via command line. I tried with simple-agent hci0 99:42:01:10:89:65; test-device trusted 99:42:01:10:89:65 yes
[04:33] <til4k> i wish they had youtube and crap when i was 12-13 i used to love home movies and stuff
[04:33] <til4k> alas
[04:33] <til4k> now it seems liek every tween is a adobe expert
[04:35] <artypig78> guys where's the best place to sell domains?
[04:36] <mneptok> artypig78: this is Ubuntu support. not help for such stuff.
[04:37] <artypig78> what channel do you reocmmend?
[04:37] <mneptok> !alis | artypig78
[04:38] <testest> just did a fresh install of ubuntu and i'm getting no interent through the wifi
[04:38] <testest> i remember i had this problem with my previous internet and i cannot reemmber the commands, the first command was "sudo rmmod iwlwifi" and then something like "sudo modprobe iwlwifi_disable=1" but thats not right
[04:39] <testest> plus, i'm wondering why i need to type this in everytime to get the wifi working, especailly after a fresh install
[04:40] <testest> hello?
[04:40] <akSeya> why all I find about bluetooth and keyboard still tells me to use hidd!?
[04:40] <testest> can someone help me with the modprobe command and then perhaps be able to tell me why i need to do it each time to get the wireless networking working?
[04:40] <akSeya> isn't hidd old and over yet?
[04:41] <testest> ?find chuck_norris
[04:41] <testest> where's chuck norris when you need him
[04:41] <testest> ?whois chuck_norris
[04:50] <tenX_> hey guys one question on ubuntu policy has been bothering me severly: why has the default look gone from orange/brown to PINK at some point and who's responsible for it??
[04:54] <pengw> hi all
[04:54] <pengw> i want to get a probook 4330s does it work with ubuntu?
[04:55] <pengw> who has any idea
[04:58] <aeon-ltd> pengw: does it have a intel/amd processor, then 99% likely as yes. But whether wifi and the other extra components work is going to be harder to find out
[05:06] <til4k> hi
[05:08] <xubuntu5> hi
[05:08] <til4k> smooth installl just updating
[05:19] <clausen> is there a way to configure dpkg / ubuntu to disable setuid on sudo, su, etc.?
[05:21] <jrib> clausen: why?
[05:22] <h2o_ugly> is there anyway to install gerix on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[05:22] <clausen> jrib, because passwords are dangerous (in my particular setting)
[05:22] <rachit> Lot of bugs here
[05:22] <clausen> jrdnn, I just want sudo / su for dropping privileges, not gaining them
[05:23] <clausen> jrib
[05:23] <clausen> sorry
[05:23] <jrib> clausen: ... so don't give the user privileges?
[05:23] <clausen> jrib, it's simpler to just disable setuid
[05:23] <jrib> clausen: I don't see how.  Maybe you should explain in more detail your situation
[05:23] <clausen> jrib, sudo and su are copmlicated programs... safer to just disable them
[05:24] <clausen> (also, I don't trust sudo... it probably has bugs)
[05:24] <clausen> jrib, thanks for being willing to listen to me... but I really just want to know how to do it
[05:24] <clausen> I don't really want any advice on how to configure sudo / su
[05:24] <jrib> clausen: your request makes no sense to me
[05:24] <clausen> I just want to get rid of setuid
[05:25] <clausen> jrib, I understand your reaction
[05:25] <clausen> jrib, a nice thing about ubuntu is it is highly configurable... there are many different possible ways to use it
[05:25] <clausen> jrib, there is space for people who disagree :)
[05:25] <glaDDoS> LAN chat options? no internet ubuntu server do the trick?
[05:27] <bluej774> I'm trying to compile a small OpenGL demo I made and it's linking with the nvidia version of OpenGL.  How can I force it to link with the mesa version so I can distribute the executable?
[05:28] <PlowRox> how do I get the speaker/sound icon back? in the upper right corner? Ever since the upgrade to v12.04 its been gone...
[05:29] <glaDDoS> LAN chat options? no internet ubuntu server do the trick?
[05:29] <reisio> PlowRox: IIRC http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html covers that
[05:30] <PlowRox> ty me go look
[05:30] <PlowRox> Things To Tweak After Installing Ubuntu 11.10
[05:30] <PlowRox> ??
[05:30] <PlowRox> im in 12.04
[05:31] <glaDDoS> LAN chat options? no internet ubuntu server do the trick? if so id love it you could email me the best way to set up the server
[05:31] <PlowRox> lol sorry first link goes to 12.04
[05:32] <reisio> PlowRox: probably the same anyways, but whoops/sorry :p
[05:32] <glaDDoS> LAN chat options? no internet ubuntu server do the trick? if so id love it if you could email me the best way to set up the server
[05:33] <Code_Factory> hey, can anybody here help me install a pfx ssl on sles
[05:34] <reisio> Code_Factory: m
[05:34] <reisio> that's short for 'maybe'
[05:34] <abbasba> hi how we can Silently Autosave Passwords In Opera (in ubuntu)?
[05:34] <reisio> glaDDoS: look into jabber?
[05:34] <reisio> abbasba: probably the same way you do on any other OS
[05:34] <Code_Factory> reisio: how can i make a pfx into ca key crt
[05:35] <abbasba> what is this way?
[05:35] <glaDDoS> jabber would work on LAN with no internet? is it installable by usb?
[05:35] <reisio> abbasba: I believe the browser handles them on its own
[05:35] <reisio> glaDDoS: 1) yes 2) isn't anything installable via USB? :)
[05:35] <glaDDoS> okie doki loki
[05:40] <muh2000> hi
[05:40] <reisio> hi
[05:40] <muh2000> (k)ubuntu checks every once in a while for a computer on the network, which is not turned on. this behavious stalls the system - how can i switch it off?
[05:41] <nosl1w> hey I just started using Scribes Text Editor, and i was wondering how to make it automatically finish my tags.. sorta like when i type <h1> it autocompletes </h2> on the other side?
[05:42] <reisio> muh2000: you don't know why it's checking?
[05:43] <nosl1w> not sure what that means
[05:43] <muh2000> reisio: the "why" of why it is checking is pretty much part of my question - i dont know, i would like to know as well.
[05:43] <reisio> muh2000: there's no reason it would be unless you told it to
[05:43] <reisio> muh2000: check /etc/fstab maybe
[05:43] <reisio> muh2000: or crontab -l (or sudo crontab -l)
[05:44] <muh2000> reisio: nothing was mounted over network.
[05:44] <muh2000> no crontab for $username
[05:44] <sacarlson> muh2000: samaba running?
[05:45] <sacarlson> samba
[05:45] <reisio> well next time it happens do some process snooping
[05:45] <reisio> ps aux, etc.
[05:45] <muh2000> sacarlson: yes
[05:45] <jnavas05> hi, good night
[05:46] <jnavas05> i have just upgraded to ubuntu 12.04
[05:46] <sacarlson> muh2000: well samba want to keep track of who's online so maybe?
[05:46] <jnavas05> and when i connect my tv via hdmi to my nvidia
[05:46] <jnavas05> it freezes
[05:46] <jnavas05> where can i get help?
[05:47] <muh2000> sacarlson: hmm and it gives notification to the user logged in on a gui? that sounds weird for a server daemon :D
[05:49] <jnavas05> hello?
[05:49] <reisio> jnavas05: hi
[05:50] <jnavas05> reisio: I just upgraded my ubuntu to 12.04
[05:50] <reisio> jnavas05: gj
[05:50] <jnavas05> reisio: and when i plug my tv via hdmi to my nvidia, the whole system freezes
[05:50] <jnavas05> reisio: where can I get help?
[05:51] <sacarlson> muh2000: kill smbd and see if it goes away
[05:51] <reisio> jnavas05: what driver are you using?
[05:52] <jnavas05> the one that shows when I install aditional drivers
[05:52] <jnavas05> reisio: the official I think
[05:52] <PlowRox> wow reisio ty for the link
[05:52] <muh2000> sacarlson: it apears only once maybe twice a day...  i will disable samba and check whether i get these errors again
[05:52] <Ormie> why do geeks use linux?
[05:53] <PlowRox> gotta reboot to get them working...lol had updates too..
[05:53] <reisio> PlowRox: found some other stuff? :)
[05:53] <reisio> Ormie: for the geek points
[05:53] <reisio> jnavas05: lsmod | grep nvidia
[05:53] <PlowRox> looks like urs will fix.. it ..ill find out after reboot
[05:53] <moduspwnins> Ormie: It's how I impress the ladies.
[05:53] <reisio> PlowRox: logging out and back in would probably suffice
[05:54] <PlowRox> true but theres 22 updates hanging..
[05:54] <jnavas05> reisio: nvidia              10962290  40
[05:55] <sacarlson> muh2000: oh once or 2 times a day sounds like the time that your isp probly give you a new ip addres with dhcp
[05:56] <sacarlson> I noted in pidgin when I had set dhcp licence time to 10 minits I was having problems every 10 minits,  when I went static the problem mostly went away
[05:56] <muh2000> sacarlson: yes, maybe, but i am behind a router :) (my own router with linux on it)
[05:57] <sacarlson> muh2000: ya me too
[05:58] <sacarlson> muh2000: but you still have the option to change your client to be set to static ip,  but 2 times a day that's not often
[06:00] <PlowRox> duh like i guesed the updates need to reboot...
[06:00] <PlowRox> bbiaf
[06:00] <PlowRox> ty very much reisio
[06:04] <SajjaD> i get dpkg error when i want to install everything.
[06:04] <SajjaD> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1033201/
[06:04] <GPRF461> please, connect irc.arcamens.com, freenode doesnt have an equalitarian stance with users. it expects you to donnate so it can provide a differential behavior as it happened with snardbafulator and others.
[06:04] <GPRF461> please, connect irc.arcamens.com, freenode doesnt have an equalitarian stance with users. it expects you to donnate so it can provide a differential behavior as it happened with snardbafulator and others.
[06:04] <GPRF461> please, connect irc.arcamens.com, freenode doesnt have an equalitarian stance with users. it expects you to donnate so it can provide a differential behavior as it happened with snardbafulator and others.
[06:04] <GPRF461> please, connect irc.arcamens.com, freenode doesnt have an equalitarian stance with users. it expects you to donnate so it can provide a differential behavior as it happened with snardbafulator and others.
[06:04] <GPRF461> please, connect irc.arcamens.com, freenode doesnt have an equalitarian stance with users. it expects you to donnate so it can provide a differential behavior as it happened with snardbafulator and others.
[06:04] <FloodBot1> GPRF461: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:04] <dpTM174> please, connect irc.arcamens.com, freenode doesnt have an equalitarian stance with users. it expects you to donnate so it can provide a differential behavior as it happened with snardbafulator and others.
[06:04] <dpTM174> please, connect irc.arcamens.com, freenode doesnt have an equalitarian stance with users. it expects you to donnate so it can provide a differential behavior as it happened with snardbafulator and others.
[06:04] <dpTM174> please, connect irc.arcamens.com, freenode doesnt have an equalitarian stance with users. it expects you to donnate so it can provide a differential behavior as it happened with snardbafulator and others.
[06:04] <dpTM174> please, connect irc.arcamens.com, freenode doesnt have an equalitarian stance with users. it expects you to donnate so it can provide a differential behavior as it happened with snardbafulator and others.
[06:04] <dpTM174> please, connect irc.arcamens.com, freenode doesnt have an equalitarian stance with users. it expects you to donnate so it can provide a differential behavior as it happened with snardbafulator and others.
[06:04] <FloodBot1> dpTM174: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:06] <SajjaD> what's the problem? can anyone help?
[06:07] <reisio> SajjaD: problem?
[06:08] <SajjaD> reisio: i get dpkg error when i want to install everything.
[06:08] <SajjaD> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1033201/	
[06:08] <linuxuz3r> did apt-get update
[06:09] <linuxuz3r> to check to see if your files are synced with the repo
[06:09] <cvr> SajjaD, try sudo apt-get install -f
[06:09] <jnavas05> reisio: it did work, thank you very much!
[06:10] <lailo> hellow
[06:10] <SajjaD> cvr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1033204/
[06:11] <reisio> jnavas05: gj
[06:11] <cvr> SajjaD, you should do an upgrade possible lots of packages out of sync with the new thing u want to install, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:13] <muh2000> sacarlson: but i dont really understand how dhcp relates to the issue that this computer is checking for another computer. my dhcp config is setup to be static ip for both computers.
[06:14] <sacarlson> muh2000: oh ya checking for another computer,  what does it do arpping or what?
[06:15] <muh2000> sacarlson: i dont know. all i see are notification on my kde gui where it says roughly translated "checking $computername.."
[06:17] <cscsaba> hello, is there any hotkey to open new terminal tab ?
[06:17] <cvr> cschneid, shift-ctrl-t
[06:18] <SajjaD> cvr: i've do the dist-upgrade but it didn't solve the problem
[06:18] <cvr> SajjaD, still comes up with the same error after trying to install the program?
[06:18] <SajjaD> cvr: yes
[06:19] <CellTech> Xubuntu...  Same thing.. Need to give Vbox users permission, however it's not in the groups list
[06:19] <SajjaD> cvr: also for installing upgrades the same error
[06:20] <xubuntu5> did someone say Xubuntu???
[06:20] <xubuntu5> lol
[06:21] <reisio> lolololol
[06:21] <cvr> SajjaD, apt-cache policy libgnome-desktop-3-2
[06:22] <lailo> msg paps
[06:22] <RecursiveBeast> ok guys who are the X.org experts?
[06:23] <chu> What's the issue? Just ask, if someone knows, they'll help out.
[06:23] <RecursiveBeast> I think i need a config file for my TV in /usr/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[06:23] <RecursiveBeast> i want to you my TV as my primary monitor
[06:23] <RecursiveBeast> s/you/use
[06:23] <SajjaD> cvr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1033218/
[06:23] <RecursiveBeast> it works, but only in 4:3
[06:24] <RecursiveBeast> looking at /var/log/xorg.0.log i see that it recognizes the proper resolutions... i think
[06:24] <cscsaba> is there any hotkey to go back the previous directory in command prompt
[06:25] <RecursiveBeast> and looking at the x.org.conf man page makes my head hurt... surely there's a way to generate a config file...
[06:25] <RecursiveBeast> cscsaba: just type 'cd ..'
[06:25] <muh2000> sacarlson: http://6g6.eu/sih0-bildschirmfoto301.png this is how it looks like.
[06:26] <cscsaba> RecursiveBeast: i meant the previous used
[06:27] <RecursiveBeast> cscsaba: there's the history command?
[06:27] <sacarlson> muh2000: cool I don't run kde so I never seen it,
[06:27] <muh2000> ^^
[06:27] <reisio> help history | less
[06:28] <cscsaba> RecursiveBeast: yep, ok, i thought thre is a hotkey to go back to previous dirs
[06:28] <cvr> SajjaD, you could try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a, you seem to have the right versions of the packages installed that its complaining about might just need to be reconfigured
[06:28] <sacarlson> muh2000: is this when smbd is no longer running?
[06:28] <cscsaba> RecursiveBeast: history will be enough
[06:28] <nork> sup guys
[06:28] <muh2000> sacarlson: yes i stopped samba.
[06:28] <nork> im new to Ubuntu
[06:28] <cscsaba> RecursiveBeast, reisio : thx
[06:29] <nork> ive tried installing Java but it crashes in Firefox
[06:29] <RecursiveBeast> cscsaba: try 'cd $OLDPWD
[06:29] <sacarlson> muh2000: make sure it's still stoped as I think it's started with the other autostartup no
[06:29] <sacarlson> now
[06:30] <RecursiveBeast> cscsaba: yea that totally works... 'cd $OLDPWD'
[06:30] <muh2000> sacarlson: i didnt reboot. only case i could imagine would be: started by a filebrowser.
[06:30] <RecursiveBeast> cscsaba: actually 'cd -' works too and is shorter
[06:31] <cscsaba> RecursiveBeast: many thanks
[06:31] <RecursiveBeast> cscsaba: my pleasure!
[06:32] <cscsaba> RecursiveBeast: very useful :)
[06:42] <alecm_> what the hell is this update-apt-xapi process?
[06:42] <alecm_> shit like that SHOULD NOT be in a server build
[06:43] <SajjaD> cvr: again the same error after sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[06:44] <chu> alecm_: Please watch the language.
[06:45] <cvr> SajjaD, hmm maybe your apt database is corrupted? is there any free space on the disk?
[06:46] <SajjaD> ycvr: yes there is 4.2 gb free
[06:46] <SajjaD> cvr: yes there is 4.2 gb free	
[06:47] <hydrox24> Hi guys, I was wondering what people's experiences were running GNOME 3.4 in ubuntu 12.04 before I upgrade?
[06:48] <wilee-nilee> hydrox24, runs good here.
[06:48] <PlowRox> lol you either love gnome or u dont
[06:49] <fleakite> some colors and stuff are weird here and there, but no crashes otherwise .. runs pretty stable
[06:49] <hydrox24> I do, but was just wondering whether it ran smoothly in 12.04.
[06:49] <hydrox24> fleakite: fixable?
[06:49] <fleakite> as long as ur hardware is sufficiently powerful, should run fine
[06:49] <fleakite> dunno .. i didn't tinker
[06:50] <fleakite> just wanted to see if i cud login.  and i was back to unity
[06:50] <cvr> SajjaD, anything of interest in /var/log/dpkg.log?
[06:51] <superuser> !info foobar
[06:51] <superuser> dose anyone know how to get foobar?
[06:51] <cscsaba> is there any hotkey to access the main menus of windows ?
[06:51] <hydrox24> ... superuser are you trolling?
[06:52] <cvr> superuser, foobar2000?
[06:52] <superuser> psh haha, no
[06:52] <superuser> oh you have to add 2000?
[06:52] <chu> !info foobar2000
[06:52] <SajjaD> cvr: this the content http://paste.ubuntu.com/1033240/
[06:52] <hashset> new ubuntu user here..  having trouble detecting multiple displays..  defaults to Laptop
[06:52] <hashset> any insight?
[06:52] <reisio> hashset: what graphics driver?
[06:52] <hashset> it worked on fresh install but after doing Ubuntu updates and recommended graphics drivers it broke
[06:53] <hashset> nvidia gtx 260 i think..  2 years old
[06:54] <cscsaba> hashset: on suse you have to use the graphics driver settings
[06:54] <SajjaD> cvr: i have 2 dpkg.log file in that place you said. one is dpkg.log and the other is dpkg.log.1
[06:55] <cscsaba> hashset: in case of nvidia we have a nvidia dashboard i guess it is nvv
[06:56] <crackerjackz> how do i figure out what port vnc is running on?
[06:58] <dixoncx> Question regarding pgp: i have one pgp key. But i forgot to export my private key while re-installing ubuntu. Is there any way to import it to gpg ?
[06:58] <reisio> crackerjackz: dpkg -l | grep -i vnc, maybe
[06:58] <cvr> SajjaD, yeh the .1 is just the old file, not really sure what the issue is, i've seen some suggestions of running through that list of files its complaining about and reinstalling them individually
[06:58] <crackerjackz> reisio, nope
[06:59] <reisio> oh running on
[06:59] <cvr> crackerjackz, netstat -at ?
[06:59] <reisio> thought you wanted to identify which VNC you had :p sorry
[06:59] <crackerjackz> reisio, i tried pidof Xtightvnc and it returned a pidof 6061 i then ran netstat -a but i didn't see anything that matched that pid
[07:00] <jeskajoy> Hi there,  i'm a newbie. I just did a new straight install of Ubuntu 12.04. I'm trying to get my dvd player to work. I've installed the VLC player, decryption libraries & set region codes. Playback is finally happening, but it's choppy and pixellated with big green chunks. What next? Any suggestions? Thanks!
[07:00] <reisio> jeskajoy: try another DVD?
[07:00] <jeskajoy> did that
[07:01] <SajjaD> cvr: when i want to install everything i got that error. even i can't install them individually
[07:01] <reisio> jeskajoy: does mplayer do the same thing? (mplayer dvd://)
[07:02] <wylde_> crackerjackz: 'sudo netstat-anop | grep vnc' perhaps?
[07:02] <jeskajoy> yes, same result from both players
[07:02] <reisio> jeskajoy: try with another -vo (mplayer -vo help)
[07:03] <superuser> well, i figured out they have a website foobar2000.org
[07:03] <jeskajoy> reisio: -vo? What does that mean?
[07:03] <theadmin> jeskajoy: Video Out.
[07:04] <reisio> jeskajoy: which display driver to use, basically
[07:04] <crackerjackz> wylde, excellent, it worked ty
[07:04] <wylde_> crackerjackz: np
[07:05] <superuser> actually its only for windows :( too bad
[07:05] <crackerjackz> it's running on 5901 and 6001 for some reason
[07:05] <jeskajoy> reisio: ok, thanks, I'll research that.  It's a new computer too. Do you think I might need to install drivers for my video card or something?
[07:05] <crackerjackz> is that odd for vnc?
[07:05] <reisio> jeskajoy: maybe
[07:05] <reisio> jeskajoy: what's your graphics device?
[07:06] <wylde_> crackerjackz: I'm working from distant memory but one may be a java/web interface?
[07:06] <jeskajoy> reisio: Radeon 6770 dedicated
[07:06] <crackerjackz> wylde_,
[07:06] <reisio> jeskajoy: well there are multiple driver options
[07:08] <rectec> Hello. So I've set up fancontrol to control the 2 fans in my desktop. It took me a while to set it up right but everything's running fine now. But I was wondering if fancontrol is set to start up automatically, that is, when I start ubuntu/login. If not, how can I get it to launch on startup?
[07:08] <theadmin> jeskajoy: fglrx (short for FireGL and Radeon on X) is the official driver for AMD graphic cards on Linux. Available in the repos, methinks, so just run the "Hardware Drivers" utility (jockey-gtk), it will get em for you
[07:11] <theadmin> Hmm...
[07:11] <rectec> Anyone?
[07:11] <theadmin> Which version of X does precise come with? I can't get much from ubottu
[07:13] <rectec> theadmin, on mine i have xorg 1:7.6+12ubuntu1
[07:13] <rectec> theadmin, all updates, not stock ubuntu
[07:13] <theadmin> rectec: Thanks... /me wonders what the colon is supposed to mean %)
[07:14] <rectec> theadmin, eh just copied it raw from the usc
[07:14] <woo> Hello everybody :)  Im running 10.04 lts. I have remote desktop set to auto accept connection.  I am able to remote via dns an am not signed up with dyndns.  Is this service normal with this distro?
[07:14] <theadmin> rectec: I understand, still, Ubuntu's package versions get confusing quite often
[07:14] <rectec> theadmin, i agree. 12ubuntu1... took me a while to understand that suffix
[07:14] <reisio> woo: I think it was free once
[07:15] <rectec> Hello. So I've set up fancontrol to control the 2 fans in my desktop. It took me a while to set it up right but everything's running fine now. But I was wondering if fancontrol is set to start up automatically, that is, when I start ubuntu/login. If not, how can I get it to launch on startup?
[07:16] <rectec> also, xserver-xorg-core 2:1.11.4-0ubuntu10.2
[07:16] <rectec> theadmin, not exactly sure which is actually the x server itself :/
[07:16] <theadmin> rectec: Oh, this one is more like it.
[07:17] <theadmin> rectec: Yeah, that's the latest from 1.11 branch
[07:17] <woo> ty reisio
[07:17] <rectec> theadmin, cool. so what do you think about wayland?
[07:18] <theadmin> rectec: See pm.
[07:18] <theadmin> rectec: Well, you can reboot and "pgrep fancontrol" to see if it's running.
[07:19] <laggmopp> do u know any way to remove the console codes (escape sequences) from linux output/ i use an old braillle device that has no terminal emulation. need to get rid of the console codes. ty
[07:19] <theadmin> rectec: If it's not, you can just add the fancontrol command to /etc/rc.local and that'll do.
[07:19] <theadmin> laggmopp: export TERM=dumb
[07:19] <laggmopp> cant do that cuz it will prevent ncurses programs from working
[07:20] <laggmopp> that was my first shot also :)
[07:20] <rectec> theadmin, thanks
[07:20] <laggmopp> i wish every program had a -dumb switch like irc
[07:21] <theadmin> laggmopp: Well, you can run individual programs with a dumb terminal mode like this: TERM=dumb your_command
[07:22] <b1nr> folks, my laptop touchpad isn't working in my profile, any thoughts?
[07:22] <laggmopp> but the prog wont work then.  like lynx says  cant do that kiddo
[07:23] <reisio> b1nr: in your profile?
[07:23] <theadmin> laggmopp: True, hm, how about setting TERM=vt100 ? Not sure if that will really help, but
[07:23] <b1nr> reisio, when I login to my account, it stops working
[07:23] <b1nr> reisio, but in login screen,  touch pad works
[07:24] <reisio> ah
[07:24] <b1nr> reisio, an external mouse works
[07:24] <theadmin> b1nr: Check "Mouse" in preferences, the touchpad tab
[07:24] <b1nr> but not the touchpad
[07:24] <b1nr> theadmin, i did
[07:25] <theadmin> b1nr: Hm, no idea really, not sure what can disable it on the user side
[07:25] <reisio> b1nr: if you make a new temporary user and log in as that user, you could possibly rule out some things
[07:25] <laggmopp> no, thats no good. refer to original question. i need to REMOVE the codes from the output
[07:25] <b1nr> yea, i will try that
[07:25] <laggmopp> u see iv been thru this many times.  been using this system fifteen years :)
[07:25] <theadmin> laggmopp: I see... some Perl magic with s// might help, not sure what though
[07:26] <laggmopp> ya i have half designed a sed script too do that
[07:26] <laggmopp> i know sed pretty well
[07:26] <laggmopp> sigh
[07:26] <laggmopp> guess i hafta get off my lazy butt and finish it
[07:26] <theadmin> laggmopp: Isn't there some tool for Braille in the repos? Thought there was, I forget the name though
[07:27] <laggmopp> yes,  but its for newer fancy (read expensive) braille devices
[07:27] <laggmopp> mine is so old it isnt covered
[07:28] <laggmopp> brltty is the one i know of
[07:28] <theadmin> laggmopp: I see... :/
[07:29] <laggmopp> i need a prog like strip or the nocolors prog in ircii specifically for console codes, and i guess it doesnt exist
[07:29] <laggmopp> but ... hope springs eternal etc  etc :)
[07:29] <kantlive-> can anyone look over my logic for something? im in the middle of a huge FTP migration and we are facing packetloss  http://pastebin.com/WB1EekH0
[07:30] <laggmopp> ty admin
[07:30] <laggmopp> for trying
[07:30] <theadmin> laggmopp: No problem, sad I can't help :/
[07:30] <Ritlee> I'm going nutz here... just installed Ubuntu 10.04.4 i386, my RTL8187 USB wireless card is recognized, it even shows all the networks in the area, but refuses to connect to anything... I'm currently using the card in win7 (dual boot system) and obviously connected to my router... what can I do to get this thing working in ubuntu... it worked flawlessly with ubuntu 12.04, but i absolutely hate the interface
[07:31] <b1nr> reisio, it works for other users on the same system
[07:31] <reisio> Ritlee: so use 12.04 with Xfce
[07:31] <Ritlee> xfce?
[07:31] <theadmin> Ritlee: I suggest the following: 1) grab 12.04, install. 2) Head to http://mate-desktop.org for install instructions. 3) Enjoy. (MATE is a fork of GNOME 2 for modern systems, it looks *exactly* the same as 10.04, for instance)
[07:32] <reisio> b1nr: okay, so it's probably some config for that specific user
[07:32] <cvr> Ritlee, you could try tracking down the rtl8187 and compile the newer module for 10.04
[07:32] <reisio> b1nr: try mv ~/.config ~/hrmmm.config and logging in again
[07:32] <b1nr> reisio, wondering what config it would be
[07:32] <reisio> Ritlee: Xfce, it's more like GNOME 2 than GNOME 3 is
[07:32] <reisio> b1nr: and by that I mean literally the directory ~/.config
[07:33] <Ritlee> theadmin, does it have the system setting exactly the same? I'm used to all the different things being right at my fingertips and 12.x having 6 different things under the settings (a little sarcasm but you know what i mean)
[07:33] <theadmin> Ritlee: Pretty much so, yeah.
[07:33] <MikeS11> \quit
[07:33] <theadmin> Ritlee: I mean yes, it's pretty much exactly the same as 12.04, except the "Administration" menu seems to be merged with "Preferences" for some reason (might be a bug since I had both MATE and Xfce installed, not sure)
[07:34] <theadmin> Ritlee: Err, as 10.04*
[07:34] <reisio> it's not a fork of GNOME 2 for modern systems
[07:34] <reisio> it's just a fork of GNOME 2
[07:34] <theadmin> Dammit, numbers -_- I hate numbers.
[07:34] <Ritlee> theadmin, i guess I'll try that then (stupid unity/Gnome3)
[07:34] <sacarlson> kantlive-: I'm not sure I fully understand but would git not do to verify that the file set is the same on both sides?
[07:34] <Ritlee> theadmin, I can handle those two windows merged... will it allow me to add icons to the launcher bar?
[07:34] <theadmin> reisio: Err, yeah, which is *intended* to work with modern systems (which already migrated to Gnome 3 that is, so that it doesn't conflict)
[07:34] <theadmin> Ritlee: Sure, lol
[07:35] <reisio> it's intended to be maintained GNOME 2
[07:35] <SajjaD> cvr: those pakages it says have problems already installed but eve i can't reinstall them
[07:35] <reisio> we'll see if that's what it actually ends up being
[07:35] <theadmin> reisio: So far it handles that quite well. They actually plan to migrate to Gtk3 with time, too.
[07:36] <theadmin> Meh, /me sticks with Xfce.
[07:36] <reisio> planning isn't the same as doing
[07:36] <SajjaD> cvr: do u have any other idea? where i can solve this problem?
[07:37] <b1nr> reisio, i removed .config/dbus and logged in, it started working
[07:37] <b1nr> phew
[07:37] <reisio> b1nr: neat
[07:38] <cvr> SajjaD, im not really sure, sounds like something is corrupted, do you have any disk errors or tried fsck? also could try removing the packages and reinstalling manually with dpkg -r pkg dpkg -i pkg
[07:38] <reisio> hrmm I don't even have that dir
[07:38] <reisio> although I'm not using Ubuntu or Unity
[07:38] <reisio> or a touchpad, for that matter :)
[07:39] <theadmin> Me neither... I never knew dbus stores configuration of any sort at all >.<
[07:39] <`thomas> hello -- i'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 on an asus zenbook, but it doesn't respond after i click `Install Ubuntu', and syslog shows squashfs errors (unable to read ...)
[07:40] <theadmin> `thomas: Suppose you failed to record the CD/USB
[07:40] <SajjaD> cvr: in terminal i run fsck when i'm in ubuntu?
[07:40] <reisio> `thomas: yeah first suspect your media/burn/image, and then your devices
[07:41] <cvr> SajjaD, the partition your running fsck on has to be unmounted
[07:42] <SajjaD> cvr: so i have to reboot and boot in recovery,right?
[07:42] <`thomas> i've burned i386 and amd64 cds and tried both, so i doubt the cds were corrupted
[07:43] <`thomas> i'm using a portable external cd drive from hp -- i wonder if the driver doesn't match exactly
[07:43] <`thomas> guess i'll try booting from usb
[07:43] <sacarlson> Thomas sounds like a bad cd reader,  do you have any usb flash disks?
[07:44] <cvr> SajjaD, you can force the fsck on reboot, sudo shutdown -rF now
[07:47] <ivan70> hello
[07:47] <LinXz> hello ivan70
[07:48] <ivan70> LinXz,  hello
[07:48] <ivan70> to open the sites, you need the plugin, what kind of plugin? eg  http://www.licantropolista.net/?lista=
[07:48] <ivan70> ubuntu 12.04
[07:50] <SajjaD> cvr: nothing happend only rebooted when i run sudo shutdown -rF now
[07:50] <madsailor> When returning to the desktop from playing Braid resolution is set to 640x480 and I have to log out/in to return to normal resolution
[07:50] <reisio> ivan70: flash?
[07:50] <madsailor> is there a way to avoid having to log in/out?
[07:50] <reisio> ivan70: oh there's an audio embed, too
[07:51] <ivan70> reisio,   how to install
[07:51] <reisio> ivan70: what browser?
[07:51] <ivan70> chrome
[07:52] <reisio> mmm, probably want gecko-mediaplayer from universe, still
[07:52] <ivan70> reisio, chrome
[07:52] <reisio> VLC also has a plugin
[07:52] <cvr> SajjaD, hmmm, you might just have todo it manually then cant see that option in man shutdown anymore
[07:53] <Chuck_Norris> aloha all :D
[07:53] <Chuck_Norris> *sound of wind*
[07:53] <LinXz> Chuck_Norris is here - I hide...
[07:53] <SajjaD> cvr: how to manually do it?
[07:53] <Chuck_Norris> you better hide
[07:53] <LinXz> do you see me now?
[07:53] <ivan70> reisio,   chrome is not hear the music
[07:54] <madsailor> there is no hiding from the RREAL chuck norris...everyone knows that
[07:54] <LinXz> I just close my eyes - doesn't that work?
[07:55] <reisio> ivan70: naturally
[07:56] <Chuck_Norris> http://i.imgur.com/Bh78F.jpg
[07:57] <LinXz> Hehehe! :D
[07:58] <ivan70> reisio,   how do I put Flash in Ubuntu 12.04?
[07:59] <theadmin> ivan70: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[07:59] <cvr> SajjaD, looks like the method has changed you can do a sudo touch /forcefsck, then reboot and it'll check on the reboot
[08:02] <madsailor> Braid changes the screen resolution, but doesn't return it to normal when the program exits.  Is there an easier way to return to normal resolution than logging in/out every time I run this program?
[08:02] <reisio> madsailor: xrandr -s 0
[08:02] <smellydog> Hi, I wrote a startup script under /etc/init.d/goagent, and I can start the service by sudo /etc/init.d/goagent, and the symbolic link under rc2.d, rc3.d, rc4.d, rc5.d are also created by update-rc.d,  but after each reboot the service does not start.
[08:02] <reisio> you could also start braid in its own X and avoid the issue altogether
[08:04] <sacarlson> smellydog: maybe there is a resource needed in your script that isn't ready at time of boot
[08:05] <smellydog> here is my /etc/init.d/goagent            http://paste.ubuntu.com/1033292/
[08:05] <smellydog> sacarlson: do you know how to debug it?
[08:07] <SajjaD> cvr: that didn't work too.the error exists even after fsck
[08:07] <madsailor> reisio, ok. Not sure how to run braid in it's own X session, but maybe I can run xrandr -s 0 on exit
[08:09] <reisio> in its*
[08:09] <reisio> yup
[08:09] <madsailor> reisio, sorry for the typo ;)
[08:09] <Guest13547> !list
[08:09] <Guest13547> lol
[08:10] <sacarlson> smellydog: well from the script I can't really tell what it needs but one word strikes me "proxy" so maybe it need network connectivity before it starts
[08:11] <sacarlson> smellydog: you might consider using upstart as the boot starter if you know what's needed in your program you can set upstart to wait till that resource is ready
[08:13] <sacarlson> smellydog: or the dirty fix just add a long sleep at some point in your script in hopes that the resource is ready before it runs
[08:15] <subthalamus> tips on losing sound card upon 12.04 upgrade anybody?
[08:15] <reisio> madsailor: something like http://linux.about.com/od/gmr_howto/a/hwtgmr05t01.htm
[08:16] <subthalamus> sound was working fine until the upgrade
[08:17] <sacarlson> subthalamus: go back to using the kernel you used before you upgraded
[08:18] <subthalamus> sacarlson: u mean as a test or permanently?
[08:18] <subthalamus> :P
[08:18] <sacarlson> subthalamus: oh maybe you upgraded from version 1X.X to 12.04 in that case maybe can't go back to easy
[08:19] <sacarlson> subthalamus: what did you upgrade from?
[08:20] <subthalamus> 11.10
[08:20] <seregei> Hello. I have faced with follow problem: if debug program in kdbg get an operation not permitted. Can somebody help me please ?
[08:21] <Chuck_Norris> seregei: try: gksu kdbg
[08:21] <sacarlson> subthalamus: I guess you should check the basics of your sound, that the device is picked up by the kernel and if the sound is muted
[08:23] <subthalamus> sacarlson: strange, even beep doesn't work
[08:24] <sacarlson> subthalamus: so what does sudo lshw; show as the driver for your sound card?
[08:24] <subthalamus> sacarlson: cat /proc/asound/cards lists it
[08:24] <seregei> just the same =(
[08:25] <cvr> SajjaD, i've just found this link it might help http://www.vkernel.co.uk/?p=139
[08:25] <PhantomSpark> I have a laptop with 8Gigs of mem should I be installing x64?
[08:25] <reisio> PhantomSpark: if you have a 64-bit processor you should be installing x64
[08:25] <sacarlson> subthalamus: and with alsamixer installed does it show any mute?
[08:26] <`thomas> reisio, sacarlson: thanks, booting from a flash drive is working
[08:26] <seregei> if debug program in kdbg get an operation not permitted. Why is it ?
[08:26] <reisio> `thomas: gj
[08:26] <sacarlson> Thomas: cool
[08:26] <subthalamus> sacarlson: lshw shows snd_hda_intel driver in use
[08:26] <PhantomSpark> reisio, The official site threw me off saying the x32 was recommended? Why does it say that?
[08:26] <subthalamus> sacarlson: which sounds about right..?
[08:27] <reisio> PhantomSpark: I'm not sure it does say that anymore...
[08:27] <reisio> PhantomSpark: but the answer would be: ignorance
[08:27] <cvr> PhantomSpark, because 32bit will work on both but 64bit will not
[08:27] <reisio> oh look, ubuntu.com doesn't have a download link anymore, what fun
[08:27] <sacarlson> subthalamus: also note the irq used with that driver see what it might conflict with if you find no mute in alsamixer
[08:27] <PhantomSpark> cvr, Ah this makes sense
[08:28] <reisio> interesting
[08:28] <subthalamus> sacarlson: the window manager thinks it doesnt have a card installed at all
[08:28] <reisio> I thought I read they were moving to 64-bit by default
[08:28] <reisio> ...maybe that's for 12.10
[08:28] <sacarlson> subthalamus: try alsamixer
[08:28] <subthalamus> sacarlson: eeew, irq 42?!?
[08:28] <PhantomSpark> reisio, it still does btw, just checked http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[08:28] <reisio> PhantomSpark: insofar as newbs would wonder why they can't install a 64-bit image onto 32-bit only hardware, yeah it does
[08:28] <cvr> PhantomSpark, so if you dont know what you're doing and you have to choose between the two and you have a 32bit machine and download the 64bit iso you'll run into problems
[08:28] <reisio> PhantomSpark: yeah but the index, http://ubuntu.com/
[08:29] <reisio> it's all humble bundle now :p
[08:29] <PhantomSpark> :)
[08:29] <reisio> cvr: yeah :p
[08:29] <reisio> but you do know what you're doing :p
[08:29] <bulk> when i use |less is there any way to ignore capitalisation whilst searching with /?  's' doesn't lead to 'S', for example.
[08:30] <reisio> bulk: less -I
[08:30] <bulk> ok thank you!!!
[08:31] <reisio> or /[Aa]bracadabra
[08:31] <reisio> or /[A-Za-z]foo
[08:31] <subthalamus> sacarlson: alsamixer no mutage
[08:31] <sacarlson> subthalamus: but it responds and see's the driver
[08:31] <subthalamus> sacarlson: irq 42 would be virtual no?
[08:32] <subthalamus> sacarlson: yes, responds and sees driver
[08:32] <LinXz> Zafoo - sounds like an ancient god...
[08:32] <subthalamus> sacarlson: not the window manager though
[08:32] <sacarlson> subthalamus: I don't know I didn't think we had irq that big but maybe that's not an intel
[08:33] <sacarlson> subthalamus: but the window manager is probly on a different layer of sound, as the sound starts from alsa then there are layers above that
[08:34] <subthalamus> sacarlson: intel 82801FB ICH6 family high def audio (rev 4)
[08:35] <subthalamus> sacarlson: this is onboard sound for a "desktop replacement" monster laptop type asus thing
[08:35] <subthalamus> from the dark ages
[08:37] <MerlynKorr> how do i install a downloaded package from the terminal?
[08:37] <sacarlson> subthalamus: does this work aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[08:37] <sacarlson> subthalamus: aplay goes direct to alsa driver
[08:37] <reisio> MerlynKorr: what package?
[08:38] <MerlynKorr> a package in the downloads file
[08:38] <MerlynKorr> tremulous 1.2 for example
[08:38] <subthalamus> sacarlson: it says it is playing it but no sound
[08:38] <subthalamus> sacarlson: it lies!
[08:39] <sacarlson> subthalamus: you pluged into the correct plug?
[08:39] <subthalamus> sacarlson: speakers are onboard too, but I can plug some headphones in, standby
[08:39] <bulk> if gedit already runs how can i open a new tab with the terminal? is it possible to enqueu files in vlc playlist with the terminal?
[08:39] <MerlynKorr> i will try to give more input...
[08:40] <reisio> bulk: probably 'gedit path/to/file'
[08:40] <reisio> bulk: it probably is, I'm not sure what the command would be
[08:40] <reisio> #vlc would know, or man vlc, probably
[08:40] <sacarlson> bulk: vlc has a cool api that I'm sure it can
[08:40] <subthalamus> sacarlson: no joy
[08:40] <MerlynKorr> i downloaded tremulous 1.2 into my downloads folder and iw as wondering how i could get it to install.
[08:41] <bulk> ok
[08:41] <MerlynKorr> was*
[08:41] <sacarlson> subthalamus: did you try all of this stuf? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[08:41] <Ormie> what os is ubuntu based on?
[08:41] <reisio> Ormie: Debian, and then Unix
[08:42] <Ormie> ok
[08:42] <reisio> well
[08:42] <reisio> Debian, and then GNU, and then Unix
[08:42] <sacarlson> subthalamus: since the aplay runs it sounds more like a mixer problem but you say that alsamixer responds so ?
[08:42] <reisio> and you could argue there's some MINIX influence
[08:42] <sacarlson> subthalamus: also make sure the sound card in alsamixer isn't in like soround sound mode or something
[08:44] <subthalamus> sacarlson: just confirmed logged in as root works
[08:44] <subthalamus> sacarlson: could have sworn I tried that first but i've let this slide for weeks now heh
[08:44] <sacarlson> bulk I wrote a ruby program to add to vlc play list that I would have to look at to find the method
[08:45] <sacarlson> subthalamus: oh your sound words as user root?
[08:45] <MerlynKorr> do i need to restate my question?
[08:45] <subthalamus> sacarlson: command works as root
[08:46] <subthalamus> sacarlson: aplay command
[08:46] <sacarlson> subthalamus: you must have to add yourself to the sound group
[08:46] <reisio> MerlynKorr: tremulous is in the multiverse repo
[08:46] <reisio> MerlynKorr: use Ubuntu Software Center
[08:46] <MerlynKorr> is it version 1.2?
[08:46] <reisio> nope
[08:47] <bulk> is there any way to create shortkeys for a program or program/path in terminal? for a dokument i have to open every day for example?
[08:47] <MerlynKorr> because thats what ive got in my downloads folder.
[08:47] <reisio> bulk: help alias
[08:47] <subthalamus> sacarlson: "audio" group?
[08:47] <reisio> bulk: AKA: echo 'foo="bar"' >> ~/.bashrc && source ~/.bashrc && foo
[08:47] <sacarlson> subthalamus: that happens with upgrades as they change groups needed for resourse and your original account keeps from original install is kept the same
[08:47] <sacarlson> subthalamus: ya
[08:48] <subthalamus> sacarlson: or pulse?
[08:48] <sacarlson> subthalamus: ya that too
[08:48] <MerlynKorr> how do i get the downloads to install from the terminal though?
[08:48] <MerlynKorr> sorry
[08:48] <MerlynKorr> im not trying to be a nag...
[08:48] <reisio> MerlynKorr: dpkg -i
[08:49] <MerlynKorr> it just makes sense that if it can be done then a lot of headaches will be saved....
[08:49] <bulk> ok, i'm trying...
[08:49] <MerlynKorr> ty reiso....
[08:49] <reisio> sticking with stable would save you headaches :p
[08:52] <MerlynKorr> how do i go about getting superuser priveliges on my system?
[08:52] <LinXz> MerlynKorr: sudo su
[08:52] <MerlynKorr> ty
[08:52] <MerlynKorr> thank you very much
[08:53] <reisio> MerlynKorr: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[08:55] <subthalamus> sacarlson: thanks for the kick in the arse :)
[08:56] <sacarlson> subthalamus: so that fixed it?
[08:56] <subthalamus> sacarlson: no, but I know it is the user now, so I'll just create a new user profile
[08:57] <sacarlson> subthalamus: probly the default user add will enable the sound and you can compare what groups they add them to
[08:57] <subthalamus> sacarlson: yessir
[09:00] <shakaran> what's the channel for ubuntu development?
[09:01] <pungi_man> i want a help . i cannot issue the command "whois <ip>" it says that no command "whois found". can please anyone help me?
[09:02] <SajjaD> wher is source list in ubuntu 12.04
[09:02] <SajjaD> i've forgotten
[09:02] <cvr> SajjaD, /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:03] <sacarlson> SajjaD: /etc/apt  I think
[09:04] <cvr> SajjaD, also may be some files under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ if u've added some extra
[09:05] <jottbe2> Hi, is it already known that qemu doesnt build?
[09:06] <jottbe2> If not where can I report it?
[09:06] <cvr> jottbe2, https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/1008136 ?
[09:07] <sacarlson> pungi_man: sudo apt-get install whois ;
[09:07] <pungi_man> its not working
[09:08] <sacarlson> pungi_man: what not found?
[09:08] <N3WB13> hi
[09:08] <SajjaD> cvr: you gave me a link, i've read it but see here (that's mine) :http://paste.ubuntu.com/1033372/
[09:08] <cvr> pungi_man, /usr/bin/whois <IP>
[09:09] <pungi_man> package whois is unavailable
[09:09] <sacarlson> pungi_man: apt-get update
[09:09] <sacarlson> pungi_man: apt-cache search whois
[09:09] <sacarlson> sudo
[09:10] <N3WB13> i has migred to ubuntu 12.04LTS and where should be the grub apperas a "unsupported frecuency" message :/ someone know how fix it???
[09:10] <jottbe2> I think it is a different one, it looks as though a error occured when the docu was compiled:
[09:10] <jottbe2> Option number is ambiguous (number-footnotes, number-sections)
[09:10] <jottbe2> Try `texi2html --help' for more information.
[09:11] <u12> hi
[09:12] <u12> ubutu 12.04 doesn't load after an attempt to upgrade to a newer version of linux
[09:12] <jottbe2> unfortunately I have no working X at the moment this makes it a bit more complicated to handle such bugs, because I have to use links instead of firefox
[09:12] <qw> hello all
[09:12] <qw> help me please
[09:12] <vinu> hi, how to increase copying speed?
[09:12] <qw> now i am install kubuntu 10.04 LTS, and i would like update (upgrade) this system
[09:12] <qw> help me please
[09:13] <qw> and about update i would like install packet programms
[09:13] <OpenTokix> vinu: what do you mean?
[09:14] <Zero01> test
[09:14] <u12> the power went out in the middle of the upgrade.  I can start ubuntu if i choose "previous linux versions" and then choose the default
[09:14] <cvr> SajjaD, the file you've done that search on isnt a problem in your list, type in ls -la | grep libgnome-desktop-3-2
[09:14] <cvr> SajjaD, and paste the result
[09:14] <vinu> how to increase copying speed when copying from hard disk to pendrives?
[09:15] <OpenTokix> vinu: Well, most pendrives have really crappy performance - and usb itself is really crappy.
[09:15] <cvr> vinu, get a faster flash drive?
[09:16] <reisio> get drunk, it'll go faster
[09:16] <LinXz> reisio: working on it!
[09:16] <esing> hi
[09:17] <reisio> esing: hi
[09:17] <esing> did I understand correctly that when doing a windows 7 / ubuntu dual boot, that installing first windows 7 and then ubuntu results into that the bootloader of ubuntu will overwrite windows 7 bootloader ?
[09:17] <esing> hi reisio :D
[09:17] <reisio> :p
[09:18] <reisio> esing: right
[09:18] <esing> good to know =)
[09:18] <reisio> unless you tell it not to
[09:18] <reisio> whereas doing the reverse always results in Windows' overwriting the MBR, because Windows assumes you only use Windows :p
[09:19] <esing> Uhm, what if I dont do it reverse but also don't tell ubuntu not install its bootloader, will therefore windows recognize Ubuntu in his bootloader? ^^^
[09:20] <esing> *but also tell ubuntu not to install its bootloader***
[09:20] <wilee-nilee> esing, the mbr is a easy fix, for repairing windows in general with alive disc having it first on the hd jsut makes things easier.
[09:20] <reisio> esing: no, Windows doesn't care about any other OS
[09:20] <esing> wilee-nilee so it's like throwing a coin whether to pick windows or ubuntus bootloader?
[09:20] <reisio> esing: you can use a 3rd party tool to make it, though
[09:21] <esing> mhm
[09:21] <reisio> such as EasyBCD
[09:21] <wilee-nilee> esing, no it is totally under your control from the linux side.
[09:21] <cvr> esing, you can run into problems when trying to install windows when it cant install itself on the first partition
[09:21] <al_nz1> slightly ot, but anyone here able to help me with a routing issue with openvpn
[09:22] <al_nz1> my setup : http://pastebin.com/d8VqjU0p
[09:22] <reisio> #openvpn
[09:22] <esing> ok I stick to ubuntu and remember to install windows on the first partition
[09:22] <al_nz1> cant access reousces on subnet behind openvpn server
[09:22] <wilee-nilee> esing, if you want to use easybcd in the ubuntu install do a custom install and put grub in the root or ubuntu partition if it is just one partition
[09:24] <esing> wilee-nilee I just read over a short tutorial and I can run easybcd also from windows?
[09:24] <wilee-nilee> esing, easybcd runs in windows only as far as I know.
[09:25] <esing> why would I need to put grub in the root? I thought I'd just need to unselect installing grub when installing ubuntu
[09:26] <wilee-nilee> esing, I don't think there is a option of no grub in a regular install of Ubuntu, I'm so used to using it maybe I missed that.
[09:27] <wilee-nilee> you can with fedora I know
[09:27] <esing> wilee-nilee when installing ubuntu you can click on "advanced" and unselect "installing bootloader"
[09:28] <al_nz1> reisio: i think they all asleep there
[09:28] <wilee-nilee> esing, Ah well since I now a lot about grub it never occurred to me to use a third party and not use grub.
[09:28] <Zero01> test
[09:28] <al_nz1> and the guy on there that seems to have all the answers is rather arrogrant
[09:29] <esing> :)
[09:29] <reisio> what do you care if you're getting answers :p
[09:29] <al_nz1> al_nz1: well he doesnt really give a hand
[09:29] <Zero01> what are you talking about?
[09:29] <al_nz1> just keeps pointing me to iformation which i have already tried (unsuccessfuly) to follow
[09:30] <al_nz1> or did follow and it didnt work!
[09:30] <cvr> SajjaD, any luck with that?
[09:31] <jondoe2> where does rules created with gufw end up?
[09:33] <iceroot> jondoe2: if i am correct they will result in iptables-rules
[09:35] <jondoe2> iceroot, i can't find it :s
[09:36] <jondoe2> i've searched for ufw, gufw, iptables and .rules and looked at every relevant file but none of them contain the rules
[09:36] <zombifier> is it in /etc/ufw?
[09:37] <jondoe2> nope
[09:37] <rafaelCN> hi all
[09:37] <jondoe2> there are rules there but they don't match
[09:38] <jondoe2> and when I add a rule to gufw they still remain changed a month or so ago
[09:38] <marcin82> zombifier: check out iptables -L
[09:39] <iceroot> jondoe2:        ufw supports application integration by reading profiles located in /etc/ufw/applications.d. To list the names
[09:41] <iceroot> jondoe2:  The  status  command shows basic information about the state of the firewall, as well as rules managed via the
[09:41] <iceroot>        ufw command. It does not show rules from the rules files in /etc/ufw.
[09:41] <iceroot> jondoe2: man ufw
[09:41] <Giulia> ciao
[09:41] <Giulia> !list
[09:43] <jondoe2> iceroot, applications.d only contains cups and postfix
[09:44] <jondoe2> suppose it's program specific rules
[09:44] <iceroot> jondoe2: yes i think so
[09:44] <jondoe2> sudoi ufw status shows the rules I added (allow 80/443 out)
[09:45] <jondoe2> I'll read man ufw
[09:49] <jondoe2> iceroot, ok, so I still haven't found where ufw stores rultes that are in place
[09:49] <jondoe2> confusing to say the least
[09:49] <wanganqi> hello world
[09:49] <iceroot> jondoe2: sorry never used it so i dont know i was just looking at the manpage if there are usefull infos
[09:50] <wanganqi> 这里都是英语啊 ？
[09:50] <zombifier> cn
[09:51] <zombifier> !cn | wanganqi
[09:51] <marcin82> wanganqi, Do you speak English?
[09:51] <wanganqi> yes
[09:51] <wanganqi> i speak
[09:52] <jondoe2> iceroot, ok
[09:52] <wanganqi> sk
[09:56] <jondoe2> asdasd
[09:56] <neopsyche> hi.. so.. I tried to apt-get unity on a kde desktop .. no hoola! Kazooey! I have unity launcher running on KDE !!!? What the!? Is this bad!? it seems bad. I cant launch linux tv.
[09:57] <neopsyche> is it bad?
[09:57] <zombifier> What session are you logging in?
[09:57] <neopsyche> zombifier.. primary session
[09:57] <Hulk> zabomber hi
[09:58] <Hulk> zatan hi
[09:58] <augustl> hey. My DAC doesn't show up in "Sounds" in settings when I connect it. Tried reconnecting it, and restarting pulse, no dice. Any suggestions?
[09:58] <augustl> don't want to cave in and reboot, surely there's something I can reload without rebooting :)
[09:59] <randomDude> augustl: that really depends
[09:59] <cvr> augustl: does it show up in dmesg when you plug it in?
[09:59] <zombifier> neopsyche: Run this command: "echo $DESKTOP_SESSION" (no quotes) and post the output
[10:00] <augustl> cvr: hmm, doesn't seem like it does
[10:00] <randomDude> augustl: why do you think you need to restart the computer?
[10:00] <augustl> that's probably it then, the DAC isn't detected at the kernel level
[10:00] <Hulk> !scn augustl
[10:00] <Hulk> augustl City: Stavanger State or Region: Rogaland Country: Norway ISP: Altibox As. Domain: lyse.net
[10:00] <augustl> randomDude: because that's what's often suggested as a "solution"
[10:01] <randomDude> augustl: solution to what?
[10:01] <augustl> randomDude: weird problems
[10:01] <cvr> augustl: is it usb? lsusb?
[10:01] <randomDude> augustl: i haven't heard of that particular problem before.
[10:02] <augustl> cvr: interesting, it's not there either. I'll try the hardware on another machine, perhaps the dac is broken
[10:02] <augustl> a LED lights up when I connect it, so it gets power at least ;)
[10:02] <Hulk> !piracy
[10:03] <augustl> Hulk: was that directed to any of us?
[10:03] <augustl> cvr: the DAC works fine on another machine
[10:03] <Hulk> ::| ××(aaaugustlll)××: nof |]::
[10:03] <Hulk> !patience
[10:03] <LjL> !msg the bot | Hulk
[10:03] <augustl> I wonder what's down when USB pherepials aren't detected
[10:03] <LjL> Hulk: also, don't use scripts please
[10:03] <randomDude> augustl: you probably don't have a supporting kernel module loaded
[10:04] <Hulk> ok
[10:04] <Hulk> kkkkkkkkkk
[10:04] <Hulk> no
[10:04] <augustl> randomDude: yeah, the kernel module snd_usb_audio doesn't seem to load
[10:04] <Hulk> kkkkkkkkkkkkk
[10:04] <FloodBot1> Hulk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:04] <LjL> Hulk: stop
[10:04] <neopsyche> zombifier: kde-plasma
[10:04] <Barbariandude> Hi guys, having a bit of an issue. My laptop is hooked up to an LG Flatron monitor, and both Displays and xrandr don't pick it up
[10:04] <Hulk> !msh the bot | LjL
[10:04] <augustl> randomDude: that is, it doesn't automatically show up under /proc/asound/modules, like it used to when I connected it
[10:04] <Barbariandude> Using latest nvidia drivers
[10:04] <Hulk> !msg the bot | LjL
[10:05] <zombifier> neopsyche: Check if Unity is in "Startup Applocations" or whatever it's named
[10:05] <Barbariandude> Anyone know how to get my laptop to pick up the 2nd monitor?
[10:05] <augustl> not sure what's actually supposed to happen, I suppose udev is where it all starts
[10:06] <augustl> Barbariandude: wild guess: some laptops have dual video cards and use the "other" one for external displays, but it might be turned off in BIOS
[10:06] <cvr> augustl: do you know which module it uses? maybe its restricted and needs to be separately installed
[10:06] <augustl> Barbariandude: does the output you connect to show up in "xrandr"?
[10:06] <randomDude> augustl: it won't start anywhere if you don't have a supporting kernel module... it may be that the one you assumed would support it simply doesn't have the manufacturer and device id in its list of devices to support.
[10:06] <Barbariandude> augustl, No, it does not
[10:06] <augustl> cvr: it worked yesterday and I haven't rebooted since then, so something must have crashed
[10:06] <augustl> Barbariandude: the fact that it's not even listed probably means the whole thing is powered off, at some level
[10:07] <augustl> Barbariandude: BIOS, acpi, or something else
[10:07] <Barbariandude> augustl, The monitor is on and plugged in. Windows picks it up, so it's on at the BIOS level
[10:07] <augustl> cvr, randomDude: the DAC is a generic USB audio interface so udev should be able to detect it
[10:08] <augustl> Barbariandude: perhaps you need a specific xorg display driver for xorg to detect it
[10:08] <augustl> cvr: when it works, it loads snd_usb_audio
[10:08] <augustl> manually loading it doesn't seem to help
[10:08] <cvr> augustl: is udev running?
[10:08] <augustl> at any rate, yesterday I didn't have to manually load it, so I want to to figure out what's gone wrong :)
[10:09] <Barbariandude> augustl, How would I go about figuring out what driver I'm missing?
[10:09] <augustl> cvr: think so, got 3x udevd running
[10:09] <augustl> Barbariandude: figure out what video card you have and install a driver for it
[10:09] <Barbariandude> augustl, Oh, I have the latest driver for my nvidia card
[10:09] <augustl> and configure xorg to use that driver if xorg doesn't pick it up automatically. Not sure about exactly how xorg detects that
[10:11] <augustl> cvr, randomDude: just connected another USB peripheral, it also didn't work
[10:11] <augustl> just like the DAC it gets powered (they both light up) but nothing shows up in dmesg, and neither the mouse or the dac works
[10:12] <augustl> if I'd upgraded my kernel or something, a reboot would be an obvious solution since the currently loaded kernel might not find stuff
[10:12] <augustl> but iirc I've not done that
[10:13] <cvr> augustl: sounds like whatever deals with usb hotplugging has crashed
[10:13] <augustl> I'll just try to reboot, don't have the skills to figure this out
[10:14] <augustl> gonna wait a couple of minutes in case someone gets a bright idea :)
[10:15] <samuel> hello! my nautilus quicklist in unity only works once nautilus has been launched? what gives? it only happens on my pc, not my laptop, the pc was a clean install and the laptop was an upgrade!
[10:16] <samuel> augustl try repeating the query over a long period of time, i'm sure someone will join the channel that can answer it eventually
[10:16] <SwashBuckla> GRUB2 question: I have set the TIMEOUT=0 and the DEFAULT=0 (Windows). Can I still boot Ubuntu?
[10:16] <SwashBuckla> I have just tried holding Shift all through the boot process, and a change DOES occur: I get the message "GRUB loading...". However, this disappears after 5 or so seconds and continues with it's configured boot process (i.e. it does not show the GRUB menu)
[10:16] <cvr> augustl: shutdown -r now
[10:18] <jondoe2> my kern.log gets completely spammed with every single connection, is that normal?
[10:19] <augustl> a reboot fixed it
[10:20] <augustl> how do I prevent network-manager from loading at startup? I ran "update-rc.d -f networking disable" and "update-rc.d -f network-manager disable", but it still launches on startup
[10:20] <jondoe2> http://pastie.org/4060861
[10:20] <jondoe2> a couple of those every second
[10:21] <jondoe2> augustl, check your startup programs
[10:21] <augustl> jondoe2: how do I do that? Not very familiar with the ubuntu startup stuff
[10:21] <jondoe2> I think you type "startup" in the lens to find it
[10:21] <jondoe2> the locale creators insist on translating every single program so I don't quite know what it's called in english
[10:22] <jondoe2> top left search box thingie -> "startup" should be sufficient
[10:22] <zombifier> Unity still works with localized apps even when searching in English
[10:22] <augustl> jondoe2: network-manager is not listed there
[10:22] <jondoe2> hmm
[10:23] <augustl> I've been trying to find docs on how the new "service" stuff works, and how to configure what should load at boot etc, but haven't found it. Anyone got a link?
[10:23] <jondoe2> anythin like it?
[10:23] <augustl> jondoe2: it's empty
[10:23] <jondoe2> you probably don't want to disable networking btw
[10:23] <jondoe2> or you wont be able to connect to the internet
[10:23] <augustl> I do :)
[10:23] <jondoe2> ah
[10:23] <SajjaD> cvr: excuse me
[10:23] <augustl> I prefer to use wpa_supplicant and dhclient in a screen
[10:23] <jondoe2> well, without networking network-manager doesn't really matter
[10:23] <augustl> so now I just manually have to kill it every time I reboot
[10:23] <SajjaD> cvr: can you come in private?
[10:23] <cvr> SajjaD: ok
[10:23] <jondoe2> hmm check out /etc/rc.local
[10:24] <jondoe2> might contain it but I don't think so
[10:24] <augustl> jondoe2: it doesn't contain anything either
[10:24] <augustl> just an "exit 0"
[10:24] <jondoe2> ok
[10:24] <jondoe2> sudo update-rc.d network-manager disable
[10:24] <jondoe2> should really work
[10:24] <augustl> that's what I tried, it still launches at startup
[10:24] <jondoe2> not sure why it doesn't
[10:24] <augustl> me neither :)
[10:25] <jondoe2> ah, now i know
[10:25] <jondoe2> 2 seconds
[10:25] <D[4]ni> is there some way to get the address of the currently opened tab in firefox from an outside application?
[10:25] <augustl> not sure if https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager is up to date and official, the folder /etc/dbus-1/event.d doesn't exist on my system
[10:25] <D[4]ni> preferably just from bash?
[10:25] <jondoe2> augustl, http://modifyubuntu.com/#speed
[10:25] <jondoe2> do show all startup programs
[10:25] <jondoe2> applications
[10:25] <jondoe2> *
[10:25] <jondoe2> then check the startup thingie again
[10:25] <augustl> D[4]ni: sounds like something you'd have to write an extension for. Or perhaps there's a generic way to get the "title" of all the windows for a process, for example
[10:26] <augustl> jondoe2: seems a bit overkill
[10:26] <jondoe2> that page modifyubuntu.com was very useful to me btw
[10:26] <jondoe2> nah it'll just show stuff like bluetooth, network-manager etc
[10:26] <dragonslay> what's the best approach to save the clonezilla clone of installed debian system. currently i do not have a external HDD, so i'll have to make use of the same HDD. i can go with lvm or a seperate partition.
[10:26] <jondoe2> that ubuntu decided that everyone wanted anyway so they might as well not list them
[10:26] <augustl> jondoe2: ah I saw "preload" and stopped reading :)
[10:27] <jondoe2> ah, :P
[10:27] <jondoe2> you don't have to do that, only show all startup applications
[10:27] <augustl> jondoe2: the command "sudo sed -i 's/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g' /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop" does not print anything, it just returns with no output
[10:27] <jondoe2> no worries
[10:27] <jondoe2> it just changes a line in a file
[10:27] <jondoe2> shouldn't output anything
[10:27] <augustl> doh
[10:27] <jondoe2> now check the application startup thingie again
[10:28] <augustl> ah, useful
[10:28] <augustl> I wonder how long I'll be able to stick to Windows
[10:28] <augustl> I mean Ubuntu
[10:28] <augustl> hiding stuff like that = meh
[10:28] <augustl> and very Windows-y :)
[10:28] <SultansElephant> augustl: you went for the plunge?
[10:29] <jondoe2> i switched from windows to be spared from that,
[10:29] <jondoe2> but I should probably have chosen pure debian instead
[10:29] <SultansElephant> i had to dual boot for awhile personally
[10:29] <augustl> SultansElephant: not sure I understand what you mean :)
[10:29] <SultansElephant> i had 'culture shock' lol
[10:29] <jondoe2> but ubuntu is good for many users
[10:30] <SultansElephant> yeah
[10:30] <SultansElephant> i dont game anymore so ubuntu is fine
[10:31] <augustl> I meant to say that Ubuntu is too much like Windows and OS X in my opinion
[10:31] <SultansElephant> augustl: how so ?
[10:31] <augustl> it hides stuff
[10:31] <SultansElephant> you mean Unity
[10:31] <mz|`> install awesome or i3wm WMs
[10:31] <chu> It has a GUI!
[10:31] <mz|`> exactly
[10:31] <jondoe2> unity was too much for me, I replaced it with lxde...
[10:31] <SultansElephant> mess around with different desktops/GUIs
[10:31] <zombifier> Unity looks like Windows/Mac? Did not see that coming
[10:32] <LinXz> I HATE Unity
[10:32] <augustl> having a GUI listing startup applications where all the default items are hidden is just completely absolutely the opposite of what I want from a OS
[10:32] <mz|`> install awesome or i3wm WMs and tell me ubuntu looks like windows/osx
[10:32] <augustl> Unity is why I'm on Ubuntu now, I love the way the menu bar saves space
[10:32] <mz|`> install debian or a bsd from scratch
[10:32] <SultansElephant> im a unity fan
[10:32] <mz|`> or alternative ubuntu
[10:32] <LinXz> I hate how it takes MY CONTROL away from MY Desktop
[10:32] <mz|`> choose your packages.
[10:32] <jondoe2> my kern.log gets completely spammed with http://pastie.org/4060861
[10:32] <jondoe2> every allowed connection
[10:33] <jondoe2> how fix?
[10:33] <jondoe2> I replaced ufw with firestartere
[10:33] <jondoe2> firestarter*
[10:33] <FloodBot1> jondoe2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:33] <augustl> what part of ubuntu does the startup apps thing? Is that all part of unity?
[10:33] <SultansElephant> startup-applications?
[10:34] <augustl> SultansElephant: "Startup Application Preferences"
[10:34] <augustl> that launches everything in /etc/xdg/autostart
[10:34] <augustl> hmm xdg is the login manager, isn't it
[10:35] <SultansElephant> startup-manager i mean
[10:35] <augustl> so even if I switch to xfce I'll still use xdg probably
[10:35] <chu> I think lightdm is the login manager.
[10:35] <cvr> augustl: xdg is a standard
[10:35] <augustl> ah I see
[10:36] <cvr> augustl: you're probably thinking of xdm, but i think xubuntu uses lightdm but not sure
[10:36] <SultansElephant> unity isnt really horrible, its just still on its way
[10:36] <SultansElephant> conceptually its great
[10:36] <ntyp> hi. i've installed python-irblib and i'm wondering where the examples are which should be there
[10:38] <augustl> SultansElephant: I really like it
[10:38] <augustl> at least after I replaced the unity specific alt-tab thingie with one of the standard compiz ones
[10:39] <SultansElephant> augustl: ya its much better in 12.04
[10:39] <SultansElephant> i didnt like it in 11.10
[10:39] <augustl> for me the question is if I want to learn to plow through the "user friendlyness" in Ubuntu, or have to set up everything myself (Arch Linux)
[10:40] <SultansElephant> augustl: depends on how familiar you are with operating systems and hardware in general probably
[10:40] <wilx> Hi.
[10:41] <zombifier> Using Arch Linux will give you an idea of what a Linux system is typically made of
[10:41] <SultansElephant> a good and lengthy ubuntu book that sort of introduces beginner stuff is ubuntu unleashed
[10:41] <cvr> augustl: I struggle with this issue daily, typically now just have virtual machines setup for my different changing moods
[10:41] <SultansElephant> dont just install arch if you are new to linux =P
[10:41] <wilx> Is there any sort of HOWTO for setting up Postfix/Exim/etc. for outgoing mail using gmail.com account?
[10:42] <augustl> cvr: haha, good idea. I have a cycle where I change distro for a couple of weeks every 2-3 months
[10:42] <chu> No reason you couldn't learn how GNU/Linux works from using Ubuntu.
[10:42] <Ben64> people like putting ubuntu down
[10:42] <SultansElephant> wilx: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=postfix+gmail ?
[10:42] <augustl> where the main distro is Arch, then I try different ones for a couple of weeks until I get annoyed
[10:43] <SultansElephant> i only like debian etc
[10:43] <oCean> SultansElephant: please don't just post search URL's
[10:43] <augustl> I'm considering using a BSD, some of the BSDs are extremely well documented
[10:43] <cvr> augustl: yup, i've ended up settling with 12.04 as the host because its going to be stable for a long time and not moving goal posts like arch or debian testing
[10:43] <SultansElephant> oCean: sorry, didnt have the answer but thought the answer might be there
[10:44] <augustl> generally seems to be not that much docs for Ubuntu
[10:44] <oCean> SultansElephant: try to keep all answers actually helpful. If you are not confident you have a helpful answer, let someone else try to answer the question
[10:44] <augustl> like, is the use of xdg documented somewhere?
[10:45] <SultansElephant> oCean: gotcha.
[10:45] <zombifier> augustl: err you may want to reconsider statement :P
[10:45] <augustl> oCean: a search can be helpful though :)
[10:45] <augustl> zombifier: how so?
[10:45] <cvr> augustl: xdg is a freedesktop.org spec
[10:45] <zombifier> Almost each and every Linux sites I visited are Ubuntu heavy
[10:46] <augustl> zombifier: most of the stuff I can find is people trying 5-6 different things and sort of making it work
[10:46] <augustl> not actual documentation on how things actually work )
[10:46] <augustl> :)
[10:46] <oCean> augustl: No. Everyone knows there are searchengines, it is not helpful to post the actual search here. URL's can be helpful when you are certain that they contain a working solution
[10:46] <augustl> oCean: i've seen a lot of people that ask questions without searching first
[10:47] <zombifier> The documentation on Ubuntu is pretty much on individual packages anyway
[10:47] <augustl> me, for example :)
[10:47] <LinXz> Ubuntu is the best documented distro there is, and I have seen in my searches.
[10:47] <augustl> and I might now know what to search for
[10:47] <augustl> etc
[10:47] <augustl> LinXz: documented, or explained in blog posts via trial and error? :)
[10:47] <oCean> augustl: Possibly. Still, by channel policy, referring to google or a google search url (or other searchengines) is not welcome here
[10:47] <LinXz> augustl: both!
[10:48] <LinXz> you just have to know how to search
[10:48] <zombifier> Try search for books about Ubuntu on Amaxon
[10:48] <zombifier> Amazon
[10:48] <SultansElephant> duckduckgo is great
[10:48] <SultansElephant> you gotta make it your default search in awesome bar and learn !bang commands
[10:48] <esing> which package manager uses ubuntu 12.04 ?
[10:48] <augustl> oCean: you don't have op or voice, perhaps you should have so it's clear that you know what the policies are
[10:48] <SultansElephant> theres a bunch of ubutu ones
[10:48] <esing> which one should i use
[10:48] <esing> synpatic isnt found through unity
[10:49] <zombifier> esing: Depending on what you want anyway
[10:49] <augustl> oCean: yay :)
[10:49] <cvr> esing: software center
[10:49] <esing> i jsut want to install xchat2 for example
[10:49] <Ben64> i thought the point was not knowing who is op
[10:49] <zombifier> Synaptic is not installed by default
[10:49] <oCean> augustl: by default on Freenode network OPs do not have active +o
[10:49] <zombifier> Install it via USC or apt-get
[10:49] <augustl> oCean: I think +v is more common
[10:49] <SultansElephant> !google
[10:49] <cvr> esing: or just use the commandline sudo apt-get install pkgname
[10:49] <SultansElephant> pfft google is so 5 yrs ago
[10:49] <augustl> oCean: all staff in #freenode has +v for example, so you can easily see if someone is staff or just a visitor
[10:49] <Ben64> many people in here know channel policy, so it doesn't really matter who is OP
[10:50] <augustl> and voice is a little less dystopic than op :)
[10:50] <zombifier> USC if you want prettiness, details and reviews
[10:50] <esing> cvr software center isnt found either
[10:50] <zombifier> esing: What ubuntu are you using?
[10:50] <augustl> Ben64: I think it's nice to know if someone telling me what I should and should not say is just a random person on the internet, or an actual channel op :)
[10:50] <esing> zombifier ubuntu 12.04
[10:50] <oCean> augustl: not on Freenode network. Policy in #freenode channel does not concern the #ubuntu namespace. Anyone can point you to the guidelines
[10:50] <SultansElephant> anyway sorry for posting a search and starting a ruckus didnt know it was a rule
[10:50] <Ben64> augustl: why does it matter?
[10:51] <augustl> Ben64: because there are lots of people on IRC channels that think they have the right to govern other people ;)
[10:51] <zombifier> No, Ubuntu or Kubuntu or etc
[10:51] <esing> cvr yep, but I prefere the software center because it handles many things for me
[10:51] <esing> :)
[10:51] <augustl> Ben64: if oCean had +v I wouldn't have argued with him
[10:51] <cvr> esing: /usr/bin/software-center
[10:51] <Ben64> you shouldn't argue with someone just for lacking a mode
[10:51] <esing> cvr ye i take a look there
[10:51] <LinXz> Ben64: !
[10:51] <SultansElephant> this is how wars start
[10:51] <Ben64> I could just as easily !guidelines as oCean
[10:51] <esing> cvr still i wonder why it isnt appearing when I search it
[10:51] <SultansElephant> it was the ddg search heard around the world
[10:52] <augustl> Ben64: it's not about lacking a mode, it's about whether that person talks about personal preferences or channel guidelines
[10:52] <esing> i press in unity: " alt + software" nothing found ..
[10:52] <oCean> augustl: maybe you should get used to the fact that in the ubuntu community everyone can be a catalyst. Anyway, this is not the channel to discuss. If you want to discuss, /join #ubuntu-irc or /join #ubuntu-ops
[10:52] <esing> either "alt + terminal " no terminal found weird !!!
[10:52] <chu> Hey guys. Just a tip, please come to #ubuntu-offtopic and dicuss this. Let's keep this channel strictly for support :) Thank you.
[10:52] <cvr> esing: does that file exist? ls -l /usr/bin/software-center
[10:52] <zombifier> esing: No, Alt is for the HUD
[10:52] <augustl> Ben64: I won't argue about channel guidelines, but if not posting links to search engines was just oCean own opinion I'd argue all day long :)
[10:52] <esing> cvr sec
[10:52] <zombifier> It's Super (a.k.a. Windows button)
[10:52] <Ben64> !google | augustl
[10:52] <esing> zombifier oh, but i dont have a windows button
[10:52] <esing> zombinfier i thought alt would replace it
[10:53] <augustl> Ben64: yes, oCean told me about that, what's your point?
[10:53] <esing> zombifier how do I run programs else in unity ?
[10:53] <oCean> augustl, Ben64, OK, so if you wish to continue choose the -offtopic, -irc or even -ops channel
[10:53] <zombifier> Is there a button between the left Ctrl and left Alt?
[10:54] <cvr> esing: try alt-f2
[10:54] <LinXz> zombifier: There is - but it's the "button we don't speak about out loud"
[10:54] <chu> It's called the "super" button.
[10:54] <esing> cvr yes it exists
[10:54] <zombifier> What is the logo esing?
[10:54] <esing> cvr sec i'll try that
[10:55] <zombifier> Since on some keyboards the Super button does not have the "it-which-must-not-be-named" logo
[10:55] <Ben64> could also call it "Mod4"
[10:56] <LinXz> zombifier: Isn't that keyboard an antique?
[10:56] <esing> cvr alt+F2 works great
[10:56] <esing> zombifier dont see any logo
[10:56] <zombifier> Is it even labeled?
[10:56] <yellabs-r2> is there already an tablet with ubuntu loaded , or do we have to buy an ipad ? :)
[10:56] <esing> zombifier you mean the desktop background?
[10:57] <chu> There are Android tablets I believe.
[10:57] <zombifier> No, I meant the button
[10:57] <yellabs-r2> thats true
[10:57] <yellabs-r2> :P
[10:57] <esing> zombifier i dont have a window sbutton
[10:57] <zombifier> Are you using a laptop?
[10:57] <esing> but with alt+F2 it works
[10:57] <esing> yes
[10:57] <esing> i use thinkpad t43
[10:57] <mang0> yellabs-r2: Buh an android tab and put Ubuntu on yourself
[10:57] <yellabs-r2> i had read somewhere thats there is talk of an ubuntu tablet, any one seen it already?
[10:58] <zombifier> OK, I should have asked it earlier. On some laptops the Super key is lacking
[10:58] <mang0> esing: Yay thinikpad
[10:58] <mang0> thnkpad*
[10:58] <SultansElephant> yellabs-r2: ubuntu can be installed on rooted android devices, yeah
[10:58] <SultansElephant> but i guess thats offtopic
[10:58] <yellabs-r2> hmm, ok
[10:58] <zombifier> But you can always click the Ubuntu button on the Launcher to do the same thing as pressing Super
[10:58] <esing> still the terminal doesnt want to open, and i think its a bug I'lll have to fix manually
[10:59] <hardc0de> i ll prefer mint
[10:59] <esing> zombifier you mean the ubuntu button on the top left ?=
[10:59] <zombifier> Yes esing
[10:59] <esing> that one doesnt work for me:P
[10:59] <yellabs-r2> ctrl+alt+t does not open terminal ?
[10:59] <esing> yellabs-r2 it does
[10:59] <esing> but the terminal doesnt open through alt+f2 , and writing terminal
[10:59] <hardc0de> sudo apt-get install terminator
[10:59] <zombifier> esing: Sometimes the Dash does not show anything. It's a bug
[11:00] <Ben64> esing: try "gnome-terminal" instead of just terminal?
[11:00] <esing> zombifier it shows me the terminal, but by clicking it, it wont open
[11:00] <ozstriker> salve
[11:00] <yellabs-r2> gksu gnome-terminal
[11:00] <yellabs-r2> ?
[11:00] <esing> i give it a try sec
[11:00] <Ben64> yellabs-r2: why gksu?
[11:00] <mcored> i tried to chkdsk a filesystem corrupted hdd (exfat) in both ubuntu and windows 7 in my desktop and during both attempts the PC resetted/rebooted half way through; same hdd i removed and plugged in to a usb dock and used my laptop with windows 7 to chkdsk and it is almost 100% complete now ( laptop did not reboot ) what does this mean?
[11:00] <ozstriker> qualcuno mi sa dire come gestire l'ipod su ubuntu?
[11:01] <esing> oh yes, "gnome-termina" works
[11:01] <yellabs-r2> cool
[11:01] <esing> can I rename it to terminal ?
[11:01] <DJones> !it | ozstriker
[11:01] <zombifier> esing: With Alt-F2 you are typing the EXACT name of the command, like in the terminal
[11:01] <cvr> esing: using alt-f2 isnt really the right solution you want to be using the dash
[11:01] <Ben64> well... you could make a symlink from /usr/bin/gnome-terminal to /usr/bin/terminal, but thats kind of wonky
[11:01] <augustl> odd, I have a "/sbin/wpa_supplicant" running when I boot, even if network manager or nm-applet is not running.
[11:01] <yellabs-r2> ( gksu , would be to try it as root , or sudo )
[11:01] <zombifier> You should be using the Dash
[11:01] <esing> oh i see
[11:01] <augustl> the parent PID is "1", what does that mean?
[11:01] <SultansElephant> mcored: did you try a recovery disc
[11:02] <augustl> if I kill the wpa_supplicant process, a new one just starts automatically
[11:02] <esing> i access the dash by just click alt right ?
[11:02] <mcored> yeah SultansElephant i tried a Windows 7 Recovery DVD and tried to chkdsk /f from there and pc rebooted
[11:02] <esing> so I have to configure each program with its shortel to use ir properly right
[11:02] <SultansElephant> mcored: try a live cd a
[11:02] <mcored> Ubuntu would just reboot when i copy files from the hdd; it couldnt handle the bad filesystem at all
[11:02] <esing> HUD = dash ?
[11:03] <zombifier> esing: Alt is for the HUD, which searches for menus of an app, like File > Exit
[11:03] <mcored> i am almost done here https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25501373/ShareXmod/2012-06/10/190305-Checking_Disk_MEDIA_(G).png
[11:03] <esing> oh
[11:03] <zombifier> Pretty neat for apps with a lot of menus
[11:03] <cvr> esing: nah HUD is some sort of replacement for menus
[11:03] <esing> and where is the dash actually ?
[11:03] <Ormie> Is fluxbox in repo?
[11:03] <esing> is the one on the bottem right (the small white box) ?
[11:03] <mcored> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25501373/ShareXmod/2012-06/10/2012-06-10_19-03-36.txt
[11:03] <thedevildemon> hi
[11:03] <SultansElephant> mcored: theres like http://www.sysresccd.org/ and other rescue based distributions
[11:03] <esing> *bottom
[11:04] <zombifier> The Dash is what toggled by the Ubuntu button on the top left
[11:04] <cvr> esing: do you have compizconfig settings manager installed? ccsm?
[11:04] <SultansElephant> but your harddrive is probably the problem, obv, since the usb is now the hd
[11:04] <zombifier> Ormie: Yes
[11:04] <SultansElephant> but it could just be a software isse
[11:04] <cvr> esing: if so you can remap the dash from the windows key to something else of your chosing
[11:04] <mcored> may be i should do a full format
[11:04] <thedevildemon> when i turn on my pc grub does not come up but it goes straight into ubuntu. i want to boot win xp too... help plz
[11:04] <augustl> a broad question.. How do you think htorque knew the answer to this question? http://askubuntu.com/questions/49416/prevent-stop-wpa-supplicant-from-starting
[11:05] <esing> cvr good to know, I'll install it now and remap it
[11:05] <augustl> is that stuff documented somewhere?
[11:05] <mcored> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25501373/ShareXmod/2012-06/10/190507-Checking_Disk_MEDIA_(G).png
[11:05] <thedevildemon> when i turn on my pc grub does not come up but it goes straight into ubuntu. i want to boot win xp too... help plz
[11:05] <esing> cvr but pressing alt+F2 isnt much disturbing though :P
[11:05] <sacarlson> thedevildemon: you might want to change the time out for grub and maybe turn quiet off
[11:05] <thedevildemon> when i turn on my pc grub does not come up but it goes straight into ubuntu. i want to boot win xp too... help plz
[11:05] <cvr> esing: yeh its not bad if you know the name of the command
[11:05] <mi3> !patience | thedevildemon
[11:05] <thedevildemon> how???
[11:06] <thedevildemon> sacarlson: HOW??
[11:06] <sacarlson> thedevildemon: there is an app in ppa that has a gui to setup grub I have to look
[11:06] <LinXz> mi3: !
[11:06] <mi3> what ?
[11:06] <thedevildemon> sacarlson: thnx
[11:06] <Ormie> mi3, pm
[11:07] <Symbi0nt> How can I start certain - not all - applications from the startbar as root?
[11:07] <esing> cvr oh now I see what you mean ... windows button leads me to the dash
[11:07] <Symbi0nt> I mean so that it gets saved that I want them to run as root every time
[11:07] <sacarlson> thedevildemon: https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer
[11:08] <Ben64> Symbi0nt: what do you need to run as root? that is usually considered dangerous
[11:08] <thedevildemon> sacarlson: i'll look at it thnx 4 ur help
[11:08] <esing> but why is there no logo in my top bar ?
[11:08] <esing> with the logo I enter dash with my mouse
[11:08] <esing> *could
[11:08] <Chuck_Norris> aloha all :D
[11:08] <cvr> esing: there is no button on your launcher at all? or no launcher?
[11:08] <Symbi0nt> Ben64: I know, but I want to setup a local ubuntu just for web developmemnt and the mix of UI vs terminal and all have different groups and users is driving me nuts
[11:08] <Chuck_Norris> *sounds of crickets*
[11:09] <esing> cvr nope
[11:09] <LinXz> mi3: Sorry; just giving you the "Facebook finger (thumbs up)" *blush*
[11:09] <thedevildemon> sacarlson: im a bit of a linux noob so can u simplify it plz
[11:09] <Symbi0nt> the IDE cant write config files in the www-data web dirs, I can't copy files from my windows into the /var/www via nautilus and so forth
[11:09] <fergal32> hi
[11:09] <sacarlson> thedevildemon: simplify beyond gui?
[11:10] <cvr> esing: is it set to autohide? the launcher? or u just mean no button? can you take a screenshot and post it?
[11:10] <Ben64> Symbi0nt: just take control of those directories then
[11:10] <SwashBuckla> GRUB2 question: I have set the TIMEOUT=0 and the DEFAULT=0 (Windows). Can I still boot Ubuntu? I have just tried holding Shift all through the boot process, and a change DOES occur: I get the message "GRUB loading...". However, this disappears after 5 or so seconds and continues with it's configured boot process (i.e. it does not show the GRUB menu)
[11:10] <Symbi0nt> when I gksu nautilus I have not my persoinal folders in nautilus anymore .. this all sucks
[11:10] <qw> help me please
[11:10] <thedevildemon> sacarlson: i need like a how-to or a simple manual.
[11:10] <qw> i would like install packet programs from ubunta
[11:11] <DJones> Symbi0nt: Thats because you're starting nautilus as root, so you you have root's personal folders, not your own
[11:11] <Symbi0nt> I know how to get around each task but that takes time I don't want to spend. I want work with projects not with the OS itself
[11:11] <chu> Symbi0nt: Because you are now using nautilus as root. Not as your user.
[11:11] <sacarlson> thedevildemon: look at all the options in the gui will give you an idea, gui is made to be self documented
[11:11] <Symbi0nt> DJones: I know that, but having run nautilus as me prevents from copy stuff
[11:11] <Symbi0nt> permission denied all over the place
[11:11] <Ben64> Symbi0nt: its pretty much a one time fix, chown -R <user> <directory>
[11:11] <esing> cvr yep iam doing a screenshot sec
[11:11] <Symbi0nt> and there seems to be no sudo copy method in nautilus
[11:11] <mz|`> Symbi0nt: timeout=0 means no splash, so no
[11:11] <augustl> odd, I removed the file (as per http://askubuntu.com/questions/49416/prevent-stop-wpa-supplicant-from-starting) but wpa_supplicant still launched on boot, with a parent pid of 1
[11:11] <Symbi0nt> at last I did not found it
[11:12] <thedevildemon> sacarlson: ill give it a shot
[11:12] <Symbi0nt> Is there a way that nautilus is started under my account but uses sudo for file operations?
[11:12] <Symbi0nt> That would "fix" some of my problems
[11:13] <Ben64> Symbi0nt: just become owner of the www folders, you're making this more complicated than it needs to be
[11:14] <sacarlson> Symbi0nt: yes, I create a script to bring up nautilus as sudo
[11:14] <Symbi0nt> ok did that ... me:www-data ... hope that helps me
[11:15] <Symbi0nt> btw. is there an commander for ubuntu equally powerfull as Total commander? I mean workwise with archives for example?
[11:15] <sacarlson> Symbi0nt: for www-data I just change all of /var/www to be owned my my account,  I only change back to www-data if the app needs it
[11:15] <Chuck_Norris> Symbi0nt: Mightnight Commander
[11:15] <zombifier> it's Midnight
[11:16] <Symbi0nt> sacarlson: well I'm usedf to it that /var/www with apache2 wants to be www-data:www-data .. but I hope me:www-data will just work fine ..
[11:16] <Symbi0nt> thanks so far
[11:16] <Chuck_Norris> Symbi0nt: sudo apt-get install gnome-commander
[11:16] <Ben64> apache doesn't really care, it just needs to have read access
[11:16] <sacarlson> Symbi0nt: that might work fine too
[11:17] <Symbi0nt> gnome commander opens archives with the archive program ..
[11:17] <sacarlson> Symbi0nt: but when I got hacked I'm glad I had it the way it was
[11:17] <Symbi0nt> not sure if there is a setting for that
[11:17] <augustl> a process has the parent process with the pid "1". What is that process? Where should I look in order to _not_ have this child process started?
[11:17] <Chuck_Norris> Symbi0nt: https://www.midnight-commander.org/
[11:17] <Chuck_Norris> the name is "midnight commander" sry
[11:18] <Symbi0nt> I had the midnight commander installed, but thought not that it me that powerfull
[11:18] <Symbi0nt> will give it another go tomorrow.
[11:18] <cvr> augustl: pid 1 will be init
[11:18] <augustl> cvr: where do I configure which processes init starts?
[11:18] <esing> cvr http://i.imgur.com/7f25l.png
[11:19] <cvr> augustl: have a look in /etc/init ?
[11:19] <zombifier> augustl: look in /etc/init
[11:19] <augustl> cvr, zombifier: thanks
[11:19] <augustl> a grep for "wpa" in /etc/init returns nothing, odd
[11:19] <cvr> esing: if you hold the mouse to the left of the screen does the launcher show up?
[11:20] <augustl> (wpa_supplicant is the name of the process that init starts on boot that I'd like to disable)
[11:20] <esing> cvr sec
[11:20] <esing> no
[11:21] <vatzec> Hey. I have 5 program launchers on my unity menu. For some reason whenever I open a different program, say, Transmission, which is not in my menu, it appears above the 5th program icon, making the 5th icon 6th. Is this intentional?
[11:21] <zombifier> vatzec: No AFAIK
[11:21] <sacarlson> augustl: I hope it's not a laptop you hope to use to connect to wifi
[11:21] <vatzec> zombifier: I think it's happened after some time of using Unity on my computer
[11:22] <cvr> esing: click on that cog in the top right hand corner of the screen, then goto system settings
[11:22] <zombifier> Try dragging the program's icon to below the 5th locked into launcher icon
[11:23] <cvr> esing: check appearance, behaviour tab and see what it says there about the launcher
[11:23] <esing> ok
[11:23] <Chuck_Norris> vatzec: you don't have the unity bar?
[11:23] <vatzec> Chuck_Norris: I don't know. I have an Unity menu on the left.
[11:24] <Chuck_Norris> i mean, what is your issue?
[11:24] <vatzec> Chuck_Norris: I expect the icons that I have pinned to the menu to stay on top of other program icons. They don't. For some reason new program icons open above the last pinned icon.
[11:25] <zombifier> It does not happen for me
[11:25] <zombifier> New programs stay in the bottom like it should
[11:25] <vatzec> Chuck_Norris: When I move the icon that's pushed down where it should be, it doesn't happen anymore until the next time I start unity
[11:25] <augustl> sacarlson: it is :)
[11:25] <esing> it was off, but setting it on still doesnt change it
[11:26] <Chuck_Norris> vatzec: unity --reset-icons
[11:26] <esing> i put the sensitivity high and still dont see it, maybe i hae to reboot ?
[11:26] <augustl> sacarlson: I prefer wpa_supplicant + dhclient in a screen to network-manager
[11:26] <sacarlson> augustl: well then I hope all you wifi will never be encrypted
[11:26] <augustl> I managed to disable network-manager from booting, but for some reaspn a wpa_supplicant still boots
[11:26] <augustl> sacarlson: wpa_passphrase "ssid here" "password here" >> ~/Dropbox/wpa_supplicant.conf
[11:26] <augustl> sacarlson: :)
[11:27] <cvr> augustl: how did you stop network-manager from starting?
[11:27] <sacarlson> augustl: well I'm an anti network-manger guy so I'm sure there are other methods
[11:27] <Womkes> If you want to use a DRBD device as a storage device for an KVM guest do you have to choose "disk: Physical Disk Device" as storage pool in virt-manager ?
[11:28] <augustl> cvr: I unchecked it in "Startup Application Preferences"
[11:28] <augustl> cvr: after unhiding it by editing the /etc/xdg file
[11:29] <augustl> sacarlson: you're not using network-manager? If not, do you also have a wpa_supplicant running when you boot?
[11:29] <sacarlson> augustl: no I write scripts or run static in most cases
[11:29] <augustl> cvr: removing network-manager from update-rc.d did not help, as the nm-applet was still launching on boot, which seemed to cause a network-manager start as well
[11:29] <augustl> sacarlson: I see, cool :)
[11:29] <cvr> augustl: that was stopping nm-applet from launching
[11:29] <esing> cvr maybe
[11:30] <vatzec> Chuck_Norris: It certainly did reset the icons. :) I wonder if it'll solve my problem.
[11:30] <augustl> sacarlson: btw, not looking forward to connecting to a wpa2 enterprise network, that's pretty nasty with wpa_supplicant.conf it seems
[11:30] <sacarlson> augustl: good point as this is a box that will never touch wifi direct but probly might have wpa_supplicant running
[11:30] <SwashBuckla> GRUB2 question: I have set the TIMEOUT=0 and the DEFAULT=0 (Windows). Can I still boot Ubuntu? I have just tried holding Shift all through the boot process, and a change DOES occur: I get the message "GRUB loading...". However, this disappears after 5 or so seconds and continues with it's configured boot process (i.e. it does not show the GRUB menu)
[11:30] <Chuck_Norris> ye, try it, and try: unity --reset   if you want
[11:31] <augustl> sacarlson: I guess you have then
[11:31] <augustl> I wonder what starts it..
[11:31] <cvr> augustl: so network-manager is disabled through upstart now?
[11:31] <vatzec> Chuck_Norris: The icons of the first two programs I have started didn't appear in the menu at all. But they do now! And They appear where they should! Thanks!
[11:32] <augustl> cvr: yeah (I think, never touched "upstart", and that's a thing, I think..)
[11:32] <sacarlson> cvr: that sounds correct if you want to stop network-manager it would probly have to be done in upstart
[11:32] <Chuck_Norris> vatzec: np
[11:32] <augustl> I used update-rc.d and the "Startup Applications" via the windows btn launcher
[11:32] <zombifier> SwashBuckla: If no one here can answer your question, try the Ubuntu Forums
[11:33] <sacarlson> cvr: sudo service network-manager stop
[11:33] <cvr> sacarlson: that'd stop it from running now
[11:34] <sacarlson> cvr: ya you want to disable it?
[11:34] <cvr> but not from starting in the future
[11:34] <drecute> I just installed all updates on ubuntu desktop 11.10 and on reboot I'm getting the error "mounting /etc/auto.nfs on /root failed"
[11:34] <Farsight01> Not sure it's any help, but maybe this can be of use @SwashBuckla: http://askubuntu.com/questions/87409/i-cant-get-grub-menu-to-show-up-during-boot
[11:34] <acolyte192_> Hello, I've had some problems with the online chat client. So, where should I put my bootloader into? Into sda, sdb, or sda6 (/boot partiton). I'm dual booting with Windows. Thanks!
[11:35] <sacarlson> cvr: like if you want to disable ssh sudo update-rc.d -f ssh remove
[11:35] <drecute> grub drops to initramfs
[11:35] <DJones> SwashBuckla: Just reading up, there's a suggestion that if shift doesn't bring up the grub menu, repeatedly pressing the "esc" key may bring the grub menu up
[11:35] <sacarlson> cvr opps maybe not upstart
[11:35] <esing> cvr i installed ccmanager
[11:35] <cvr> sacarlson: its augustl that wants to know
[11:35] <SwashBuckla> hmm
[11:36] <SwashBuckla> DJones: I may try that
[11:36] <cvr> esing: goto ubuntu unity plugin
[11:36] <esing> cvr how do i remap dash button to smthing else than windows button
[11:36] <zombifier> esing: Use ccsm
[11:36] <cvr> esing: and it'll be on the behavior tab
[11:37] <augustl> oh, I think I found the problem.. network-manager is still running it seems
[11:37] <DJones> SwashBuckla: According to http://askubuntu.com/questions/71867/grub-menu-doesnt-appear-when-pressing-shift the hidden timeout value has to be greater than 0 to allow the shift key to work
[11:37] <augustl> I do have a dhcclient and 2x dnsmasq, both which mention "network-manager" in some form in their argv
[11:38] <augustl> seems Ubuntu really wants network-manager to run at least once :)
[11:38] <augustl> it works fine if I run network-manager and kill it, then there's no network-manager or wpa_supplicant running.
[11:38] <augustl> just when I disable network-manager from running on boot altogether
[11:39] <cvr> augustl: tried disabling dnsmasq on boot aswell?
[11:39] <Chuck_Norris> augustl: what is your issue?
[11:39] <augustl> Chuck_Norris: I'm trying to disable network-manager and everything related to it on boot, so I can run wpa_supplicant and dnsmasq manually
[11:40] <augustl> cvr: I'll try that, don't really need it I guess. Unless Ubuntu needs it for something
[11:40] <morteza_ipo> hi
[11:40] <Chuck_Norris> why you wanna to run those programs manualy? do you have conecctions issues?
[11:40] <morteza_ipo> I haven't regex in my system
[11:40] <morteza_ipo> what is the package name?
[11:40] <augustl> Chuck_Norris: no, I just prefer it that way
[11:40] <Chuck_Norris> ok
[11:41] <cvr> augustl: ubuntu is using it now for dns listening on the localhost you'd have to change ur nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf if ur not using it
[11:41] <nydel> i am using dual monitors & want a keyboard shortcut to move a window to the other display - not to the other workspace, just to the other display. does anyone know how to set this up?
[11:41] <robotti^_> hello!
[11:41] <robotti^_> I have some network problems
[11:41] <robotti^_> on linux
[11:41] <robotti^_> but nothing problems in windows
[11:42] <esing> cvr with remapping the key from super to ctrl it works, but yet I cant open dash with my mouse, why ?
[11:42] <Chuck_Norris> !details | robotti^_
[11:42] <robotti^_> ping time in windows is about 1-4ms
[11:42] <augustl> cvr: there's no "dnsmasq" in /etc/init.d or /etc/init, hmm
[11:42] <esing> cvr also dash looks the same like alt+F2(HUD) only that it says "search" instaed "command" in the white box right?
[11:43] <zombifier> esing: HUD is not Alt+F2. HUD is Alt.
[11:43] <robotti^_> I am running Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit edition. And when I am using networking, and after some time my network latency will increase to 100ms
[11:43] <robotti^_> and it is cycling about 1 to 100ms
[11:43] <esing> zombifier ups, so how do I say to alt+f2 ?
[11:43] <zombifier> Run Command will be fine
[11:43] <esing> zombifier alt+F2 = command bar != dash right ?
[11:43] <esing> ok
[11:43] <robotti^_> I have very bad performance in my network because of that
[11:43] <Chuck_Norris> robotti^_: via wireless lan?
[11:43] <esing> so maybe I restart my PC and dash will work with mouse too
[11:44] <cvr> esing: when you get the dash up does the side launcher bar show up aswell?
[11:44] <robotti^_> Chuck_Norris: via lan
[11:44] <esing> cvr yes but it has no symbols insidce
[11:44] <esing> *inside
[11:44] <robotti^_> Chuck_Norris: wireless devices work fine and lan devices work fine
[11:44] <augustl> hah, it's called "NetworkManager" so my grepping hasn't detected it :P (uppercase vs lowercase)
[11:44] <esing> cvr i can make a screenshot
[11:44] <cvr> esing: ok
[11:44] <robotti^_> Chuck_Norris: I have try it with three different network interface cards.
[11:44] <Chuck_Norris> robotti^_: ye, do you have the issue connected via wire or wireless ?
[11:45] <Chuck_Norris> i mean via wifi or via wire
[11:45] <robotti^_> Chuck_Norris: there is no problems when using different computers or when I am running windows in this computer
[11:45] <robotti^_> Chuck_Norris: wire
[11:45] <robotti^_> Chuck_Norris: only with this computer
[11:45] <robotti^_> so, should I run windows then?
[11:46] <augustl> hmpf, disabled both "network" and "network-manager", still getting "NetworkManager" running on boot
[11:47] <cvr> augustl: i guess this is when u discover that everything is hacked together to make things work how they want them to be and not changed easily
[11:47] <robotti^_> Chuck_Norris: so,what you think what is problem with my system?
[11:47] <Chuck_Norris> idk maybe ipv6
[11:47] <augustl> cvr: seems so :)
[11:48] <esing> cvr: http://i.imgur.com/aXaAy.png
[11:48] <augustl> cvr: seems Canonical takes the "pragmatic" approach :)
[11:48] <esing> Suchen means "search"
[11:48] <Chuck_Norris> robotti^_: try: echo "#disable ipv6" | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.conf
[11:48] <Chuck_Norris> echo "net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1" | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.conf
[11:49] <sacarlson> does this app rcconf   also disable upstart applications?
[11:49] <Chuck_Norris> echo "net.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6 = 1" | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.conf
[11:49] <Chuck_Norris> and: echo "net.ipv6.conf.lo.disable_ipv6 = 1" | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.conf
[11:49] <sacarlson> if there is no gui to disable upstart I think I should write one
[11:49] <krababbel> augustl: you can uninstall nm
[11:49] <augustl> krababbel: ah, why not, I'll try that
[11:50] <Chuck_Norris> augustl: then install "wicd-gtk" or "wicd-curses"  if you want
[11:50] <krababbel> augustl: you'll need to remove the icon at the top, maybe too, seems not to be removed automatically
[11:50] <augustl> krababbel: I would prefer to keep it around just in case.. oh well
[11:50] <augustl> Chuck_Norris: ah
[11:50] <krababbel> augustl: well it is around in the repos :)
[11:51] <sacarlson> augustl: that's what I ended up doing is uninstalling network-manager package
[11:51] <krababbel> cached locally too I guess
[11:51] <aismail_> hi guys, I'm having a problem with Compiz Application Switcher + Chrome
[11:51] <aismail_> whenever I use alt-tab to change the window from Chrome, when I go back to Chrome it becomes unresponsive
[11:51] <cvr> esing: that doesnt look very good...
[11:51] <esing> cvr lol
[11:51] <aismail_> this *only happens* whenever I have application switcher on
[11:52] <robotti^_> Chuck_Norris: I do it those things
[11:52] <esing> cvr are you considering my installation went wrong?
[11:52] <robotti^_> Chuck_Norris: what now?
[11:52] <Chuck_Norris> nothing
[11:52] <robotti^_> Chuck_Norris: should I reboot?
[11:52] <Chuck_Norris> just test your connection
[11:53] <robotti^_> it is still 1-100ms cycling
[11:53] <Chuck_Norris> no, its not necesary
[11:53] <Chuck_Norris> its not windows
[11:53] <augustl> krababbel: typically I need it when I'm not online though :D
[11:53] <augustl> in case wpa_supplicant acts up or w/e
[11:53] <robotti^_> but reboot usually helps with this problem
[11:53] <robotti^_> and it is away for some time.
[11:53] <Chuck_Norris> no, noob
[11:53] <robotti^_> Chuck_Norris: then, what now?
[11:54] <krababbel> augustl: sorry, no idea really how to disable it
[11:54] <cvr> esing: maybe there is an error in the plugin, try alt-f2 then unity --replace
[11:54] <Chuck_Norris> ok reboot if you wnat
[11:54] <esing> ok
[11:54] <Chuck_Norris> want*
[11:54] <robotti^_> Chuck_Norris: but, what is fix for this situation?
[11:54] <krababbel> augustl: though configuring in command line isn't that hard
[11:54] <augustl> the fact that network-manager isn't just network-manager, but network-manager-with-ubuntu-specific-everything is kind of annoying.. I wish it was a separate network-manager-ubuntu-integration package or something like that
[11:55] <augustl> could always compile my own network-manager ;)
[11:55] <robotti^_> I have been trying to find solution for thisthing from Internet
[11:55] <robotti^_> but no
[11:55] <augustl> or use wicd as someone suggested
[11:55] <Chuck_Norris> i dont write you anymore robotti^_ search for someone that will be happy helping a windows user
[11:55] <krababbel> hm, I don't use wifi here :)
[11:55] <robotti^_> Chuck_Norris: I am using ubuntu?
[11:55] <robotti^_> this is ubuntu related problem, not windows
[11:56] <robotti^_> windows is working fine
[11:56] <robotti^_> Chuck_Norris: that why I am asking from here.
[11:56] <esing> cvr didn't help
[11:56] <Chuck_Norris> but you heart belong to Bill Gay i know that you can't lie me
[11:56] <cvr> augustl: your requirements are fairly specific to what you want, im surprised ur still persisting with the distro
[11:56] <robotti^_> because there is many ubuntu users.
[11:56] <LinXz> Chuck_Norris: Who's gay?
[11:56] <Kornkage4> Don't defy Chuck_Norris
[11:56] <cvr> esing: did it refresh your screen atleast?
[11:56] <esing> yes
[11:56] <robotti^_> who might know about linux networking.
[11:56] <Chuck_Norris> Bill Puertas
[11:56] <cvr> esing: try unity --reset
[11:56] <LinXz> Don't like him...
[11:57] <esing> ok
[11:57] <augustl> cvr: hehe, I (really) like the menu bar in unity and the battery life :D
[11:57] <Chuck_Norris> robotti^_: you wrote "should i use windows" so...
[11:57] <LinXz> no one should use Windows!
[11:57] <cvr> augustl: you like the global menu?
[11:57] <Chuck_Norris> \m/-_-\m/
[11:57] <robotti^_> Chuck_Norris: it was just question, because I was wondering, if there is solution for this problem.
[11:57] <augustl> cvr: yeah I love it. Saves a lot of screen real estate
[11:58] <oCean> Chuck_Norris: please behave if you are offering help in this channel
[11:58] <oCean> LinXz: same for you, please be professional if you are offering help. If anyone wants to use Windows, that is very fine
[11:58] <LinXz> robotti^_: It's like a question, when your Lamborgini brakes down, if you shouldn't be using Fiat in stead...
[11:58] <sacarlson> augustl: I just noted that with my wpa-supplicant isn't running so I guess not having network-manager installed has made it go away
[11:58] <augustl> to have title bar with minimize+close etc and the menu in one line. Even beats desktop envs with no top bar, since there's usually at least the window manager bar and the app menu
[11:58] <cvr> augustl: haha yeh I love the idea of it and that it frees up alot of space, just hate using it, still doesnt work well with multiple monitors
[11:58] <augustl> sacarlson: yeah I just uninstalled network-manager, it works fine now
[11:59] <augustl> cvr: ah I'm only using the laptop screen
[11:59] <robotti^_> LinXz: yes. and if there is no way to fix lamborgini at the moment, then I should use fiat?
[11:59] <LinXz> oCean: this is my PERSONAL opinion, after 10 years of using Mac OS, 10 years of Windows (Microsoft) and 2 years of LINUX.
[11:59] <augustl> but I'm inclined to install arch and xmonad now ;)
[11:59] <LinXz> nah - just take a taxi. ;)
[11:59] <oCean> LinXz: and you can keep it to yourself, it has no place in this channel
[11:59] <cvr> augustl: haha
[11:59] <LinXz> oh, I'm sorry
[11:59] <touil> Hello everyone.
[11:59] <Farsight01> I failed with a Arch install yesterday. Totally forgot to install the GUI package - facepalm
[12:00] <Farsight01> an*
[12:00] <touil> I recently installed ubuntu on my netbook (samsung n220), and I have noticed something really weird concerning energy consumption.
[12:01] <robotti^_> but really, does anybody now about networking problems in ubuntu 12.04 or should I test with some older ubuntu distributions?
[12:01] <cm-t> hi, (#chroot) I am installing a vm, so I didnt tryed yet. If I folow http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/ Will I be able to do apt-get install instead of the step 7 ? (install from a live-cd to the / on hdd)
[12:01] <irfan> hallo
[12:01] <mi3> hi
[12:01] <touil> Let me explain. I had the feeling that my battery lasted less time when my wifi module was OFF than when my wifi module was ON.
[12:02] <KM0201> touil: that doesn't make any sense at all... i suspect you're miscalculating
[12:02] <irfan> why my modem manager crash?
[12:02] <Chuck_Norris> touil: ye, that's truth and disabling touchpad will econimize more battery
[12:02] <touil> To check this, I installed powertop. And I was right. The battery discharge rate was about 6.3 W with the wifi off, and only 5.2W with the wifi on and connected.
[12:03] <Chuck_Norris> and disabling bluetooth more
[12:03] <cvr> touil: do you have increased cpu activity when the wifi is turned off? hardware switch off or software?
[12:03] <touil> Chuck_Norris, no, I repeat, the wifi module being on consume LESS power than off.
[12:03] <irfan> how can my modem manager crash?
[12:03] <touil> No, I checked, the cpu activity is the same when wifi is off or on.
[12:04] <touil> To check if it was not a hardware problem, I tried to boot with the preinstalled window 7. And in Windows 7, the battery consumption is by far reduced when the wifi module is off, which makes sense.
[12:04] <touil> I cannot explain this.
[12:05] <robotti^_>                 Usage       Events/s    Category       Description
[12:05] <robotti^_>             100,0%                      Device         Audio codec hwC0D0: Realtek
[12:05] <cvr> touil: is it hardware or software switch?
[12:05] <robotti^_>             100,0%                      Device         Audio codec hwC0D3: Intel
[12:05] <robotti^_> sorry
[12:05] <FloodBot1> robotti^_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:05] <augustl> thanks for all the help everyone. cvr, sacarlson, ++
[12:05] <esing> cvr didnt help either, also iam not able to use ctrl anymore, and i forget how i could enter compizconfig
[12:05] <touil> And (maybe I'm wrong), I think that this is interesting for the community.
[12:05] <cvr> augustl: good luck :)
[12:06] <sacarlson> touil: it must draw the RF power into the computer like the method Tesla used to light up that remote mountain top
[12:06] <irfan> hmmm
[12:06] <Chuck_Norris> esing: compizconfig-settings-manager
[12:06] <esing> thx
[12:06] <cvr> esing: ahh u mapped it to ctrl?
[12:06] <esing> yes
[12:06] <jennie> Is there any Good link for noobs on 'how to understand man pages' ??
[12:07] <sacarlson> jennie: google each term you don't know
[12:07] <touil> What is really weird is that the power consumption increases when I switch off the wifi the software way  AND when I switch off the wifi the hardware way.
[12:08] <touil> Sorry sacarlson, being french and not too good in English language, I don't understand what you mean.
[12:08] <Chuck_Norris> touil: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/jupiter ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install jupiter
[12:08] <cvr> touil: try blacklisting the wifi module and having it switched off on hardware see what usage u get
[12:08] <sacarlson> touil: I should be sorry it was just a joke
[12:08] <cvr> touil: after rebooting
[12:08] <touil> Ok no problem.
[12:08] <esing> chuck_norris wasnt found
[12:08] <touil> Jupiter is already installed.
[12:08] <Chuck_Norris> esing: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[12:09] <touil> I tried to switch off the wifi module several ways, and I always get the same conclusion : less power consumed when the wifi is on.
[12:09] <cvr> esing: ccsm
[12:09] <Chuck_Norris> brb
[12:09] <cvr> esing: alt-f2 then ccsm
[12:09] <cm-t> touil: try /j #ubuntu-fr  same as this channel but in french
[12:10] <esing> ok
[12:10] <touil> cm-t : Well, I could do efforts to try to speak english ;-)
[12:10] <touil> cvr ; How do you blacklist a module ?
[12:10] <cm-t> touil: comme tu veux :)
[12:10] <cvr> touil: is this still the case when the hardware switch is turned off from cold boot?
[12:11] <touil> cm-t: I see some french speaking people out here.
[12:11] <touil> cvr. That's an interesting question. I haven't tried it yet.
[12:11] <cvr> touil: blacklist modulename in /etc/modules
[12:12] <touil> For your information, the wifi is hardware turned off with a fn button, not a switch. I can see if it is turned off or on with a little light on my keiboard.
[12:12] <touil> Ok cvr. I'm going to try to boot with the wifi turned off from cold boot. And then I'll tell you what has happend.
[12:12] <excalibr> What do you call the top bar? Unity bar?
[12:13] <EpicLolWut> he can someone whisper me with information for dualbooting Windows 7 and Ubuntu?
[12:13] <excalibr> one that also acts as titlebar for maximized app
[12:13] <excalibr> EpicLolWut: non wubi way?
[12:14] <fidel> EpicLolWut: in short: install windows - then linux - end up with grub as boot-manager which let youchoose the os on each boot
[12:14] <cm-t> EpicLolWut: if you install from the official ubuntu cd, it will ask you if you want to keep your window7 "install ubuntu beside other operating system"
[12:14] <EpicLolWut> non wubi way yes
[12:15] <excalibr> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Windows_and_Arch_Dual_Boot#Using_Windows_7_Boot-Loader
[12:15] <excalibr> I know, but that also works for Ubuntu
[12:15] <sacarlson> touil: I see blacklist.conf in /etc/modprob.d
[12:15] <esing2> cvl i set it again to ctrl but still there are no symbols inside
[12:16] <esing2> *cvr
[12:17] <cvr> esing2: something is screwed up with your launcher but im not sure what sorry
[12:18] <touil> cvr: I just tried to boot with the wifi off from bios setup. Weirder: Ubuntu did switch it on again without notice !
[12:18] <esing2> cvr np you helped me much  :)
[12:18] <sacarlson> touil: I see blacklist.conf in /etc/modprob.d
[12:18] <esing2> at least i can differ now between HUD , dash etc ^^^
[12:19] <angs> what is the difference between terminal, xterm and uxterm?
[12:19] <angs> what are the usage purpose of them?
[12:19] <touil> cvr ?
[12:19] <sacarlson> angs: different people wrote them?
[12:20] <sacarlson> angs: I prefer gnome-term
[12:20] <angs> for the functionality, is there any difference for these terminals?
[12:20] <zombifier> gnome-terminal is more beautiful :P
[12:21] <sacarlson> angs: but me and zombifier:  are biased as we run in gnome
[12:21] <yeats> angs: xterm and uxterm (unicode-enabled xterm) are much more basic, gnome terminal adds lots of features (including better looks, as zombifier mentions)
[12:22] <cvr> touil: sorry had to step away for a minute
[12:22] <Zero01> hello everybody..
[12:22] <angs> yeats, sacarlson, zombifier: thanks for the information
[12:22] <yeats> angs: but use what you like, as nearly everyone in the channel will advise
[12:22] <cvr> touil: I think the module blacklist doesnt work in that file anymore has to be in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[12:23] <angs> I use gnome terminal as well, I just wondered why there are two more terminals
[12:23] <touil> So (I'm such a newbie), how do I blacklist my wifi module ?
[12:23] <yeats> angs: wikipedia is a good source for general info if you want more
[12:23] <angs> sure, thank you
[12:24] <sacarlson> cvr: touil: I've had devices that seem to refuse not to start up even if in the blacklist.conf, at times I've had to move the *.ko module to force it not to run
[12:24] <ironm> Hello. does anyone run mysqld_multi on MariaDB 5.5.24 / ubuntu 11.10 or 12.04?
[12:24] <cvr> touil: sudo vi /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[12:24] <cvr> touil: add blacklist wifimodulename to the file then save and reboot
[12:24] <touil> how do I get to know the wifimodulename
[12:25] <cvr> touil: try dmesg | grep net
[12:26] <sacarlson> touil: sudo lshw should tell you what driver is applied to the device
[12:26] <mcored> hey guys i am about to format a hdd for data storage and attach to ubuntu, would u recommend ext4 or ntfs for safety of files
[12:26] <cm-t> Is anyone familiar with chroot or lxc or anything may confirm me or unconfirm that I can force an apt-get in a live-cd for a target of / in hdd ?
[12:27] <touil> I have just things in bluetooth
[12:27] <zombifier> ext4
[12:27] <cm-t> for example, installing from live-cd vlc into the hdd installation
[12:28] <touil> wait, I have AR9285 Wireless Network Adaptater
[12:28] <sacarlson> cm-t: seem like alot of trouble to install by this method, is there a reason?
[12:29] <touil> driver =ath9k, is this what I have to disable ?
[12:29] <sacarlson> cm-t: there are offline install methods
[12:29] <mcored> when i say saety, lets say the PC is resetted 100 times so is it ext4 or ntfs that will have more possibility to cause file corruption zombifier?
[12:29] <esing2> cvr what exactly is wrong with my dash?
[12:30] <esing2> cvr it should only show the symbols and a starter logo, but the rest if ine?
[12:30] <esing2> *fine
[12:30] <Kornkage4> yea zabomber which one is more likely to go corrupt and lose everything ?
[12:30] <Kornkage4> zombifier
[12:30] <zombifier> Linux CANNOT handle NTFS, because it does not support POSIX file permissions.
[12:30] <zombifier> It can use NTFS as a storage partition though
[12:30] <Kornkage4> bbbbut im running ubuntu i installed from wubi
[12:31] <zombifier> Wubi creates a virtual disk image
[12:31] <Kornkage4> okay
[12:31] <cm-t> sacarlson: the goal is, after ubiquity installed the ubuntu, to install a list of package
[12:31] <touil> cvr ? (I don't want to bother you)
[12:32] <mcored> when i tried to share folders over samba on a ntfs filesystem i had weird errors in Ubuntu e.g. cannot share folder
[12:32] <cvr> touil: yeh thats the driver
[12:32] <mcored> hey zombifier http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems here it says ntfs can handle posix
[12:32] <cm-t> sacarlson: I work on a possible new feature of ubiquity, install app that you have sync with oneConf (in software-center you can sync the list of installed app. when you use ubiquity you will be asked if you want re-install them)
[12:32] <esing2> cvr it would help me to google if I know what was wrong with the screenshot i send you :)
[12:32] <zombifier> Wait, I thought you are asking about the file system of a DEFAULT Ubuntu install
[12:32] <zombifier> Sorry
[12:33] <cvr> esing2: just a moment i'll see if i can find something
[12:33] <zombifier> You should use NTFS if you want it to be readable by Windows machines
[12:33] <esing2> thanks :}
[12:33] <cm-t> sacarlson: so the good new is the version/arch of the live-cd should be the same of the chroot
[12:33] <cm-t> i guess
[12:33] <zombifier> I don't know if ext4 or NTFS is safer
[12:35] <sacarlson> cm-t: well you can make a custom live cd that has a post install list or updates a post install list with a wget
[12:35] <mcored> A native port of ZFS for Linux is in development
[12:35] <zombifier> sacarlson: You can use UCK, which allows you to customize an Ubuntu image using a tool like Synaptic or sort
[12:36] <cm-t> zombifier: the customisation is not done before you build your iso, but during the live-cd
[12:36] <sacarlson> zombifier: I guess he has a group that will install a cd but it will have a custom app list that will change from some online source list
[12:36] <cm-t> it will check your profile and selected machine to clone
[12:36] <cm-t> (select a list a package)
[12:37] <cvr> esing2: can you try run unity --replace from a terminal and see what errors are coming up?
[12:37] <touil> cvr.
[12:37] <touil> cvr : I just blacklisted the driver and rebooted, but the driver has been loaded again.
[12:37] <laumonier> hi im looking for a mp3 converter which is easy to use by easy i mean i select my files i select my format i click and its converted ive tryed vlc converter winff arista but it doesnt work like i want thx
[12:38] <touil> Any explanation ?
[12:38] <Ormie> hello
[12:38] <Ormie> I am installing ubuntu 12.04
[12:38] <sacarlson> cm-t: sounds like a task for one of the auto installers
[12:38] <mi3> hi
[12:38] <Ormie> The twitter boardcast at the right, is it real twitter?
[12:39] <Ormie> or just a scrolling of looping messages
[12:39] <esing2> cvr yes
[12:39] <aureeza> Hello. Not sure if anyone can help me or this is the right place to ask. I am running 12.04 (clean install) and when accessing files over my local network (wired) from my samba server, the transfer speeds are extremely slow... However, when I run Windows 7 under virtualbox on the same system, it transfers at full speed? It's very strange.
[12:39] <cm-t> sacarlson: "one of the auto installer" you mean a dev from ubiquity ?
[12:39] <zombifier> Ormie: Yes it's real. It fetches Twitter tweets about Ubuntu
[12:39] <mcored> In 2009, these drivers were diagnosed to be corrupting HFS+ drives with a capacity greater than 2 TB.[14] Consequently, Linux distributions such as Debian and Ubuntu also stopped allowing mounting of HFS+ drives or partitions greater than 2 TB
[12:39] <Ormie> ok
[12:40] <mcored> i am guessing exfat drivers i installed are doing the same
[12:40] <sacarlson> cm-t: I think I've heard some use ubiquity used in an auto installer before but there are others
[12:40] <cvr> touil: so it has actually loaded the ath9k driver? lsmod | grep ath9k?
[12:40] <zombifier> laumonier: I don't know if there are any standalone tools that do so but there's Nautilus Actions Extras, which adds A LOT of tools into the right click menu, including audio convert
[12:41] <touil> Yes. ath9k has loaded.
[12:42] <laumonier> zombifier,  what is the name of the package?
[12:42] <mcored>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4#Delayed_allocation_and_potential_data_loss
[12:43] <sacarlson> cm-t I've played with auto installers before and failed so I'm not an expert
[12:43] <sacarlson> cm-t I've tried kick-start and seems it's not supported anymore or something
[12:44] <sacarlson> cm-t: I think I tried the debian method and also failed
[12:44] <esing2> cvr http://paste.ubuntu.com/1033664/
[12:44] <Ormie> yrg: XD
[12:44] <mcored> overall it is ZFS that is better but we gotta wait for native suppport :)
[12:45] <cvr> touil: hmmmmm not sure, someone said before there was a problem with blacklisting not always working
[12:45] <esing2> cvr also ubuntu broke down now ^^
[12:45] <pranjal710> Hello, I tried installing xulrunner using apt-get, but it failed, isnt there any way to install it using ppa??
[12:45] <zombifier> laumonier: Add the PPA ppa:nae-team/ppa
[12:46] <zamba> i need something to parse html.. quick and dirty.. what do you recommend? beautifulsoup or lxml?
[12:46] <zombifier> Then apt-get update , then install nautilus-actions-extra
[12:46] <cvr> esing2: did you close the terminal?
[12:46] <touil> Any way to just unload the module ?
[12:46] <cm-t> sacarlson: I am not an expert at all of that ^^
[12:46] <cvr> touil: modprobe -r modname
[12:47] <esing2> cvr no
[12:47] <sacarlson> cm-t well I can tell you I spent 3 waisted days and finaly just run a post script later
[12:47] <cm-t> sacarlson: it's just I am the one who have this in his todolist in our group
[12:47] <zombifier> laumonier: After you're done, just right click an audio file, choose Multimedia > Audio Convert
[12:47] <esing2> now I shut off ubuntu through power buttom because all was freezing
[12:47] <cvr> esing2: can u still bring up alt-f2? if so just run unity --replace with that
[12:47] <esing2> ok
[12:47] <cm-t> sacarlson: I though about that for emergency method
[12:48] <esing2> screen refreshed
[12:48] <esing2> everything same as before
[12:48] <sacarlson> cm-t: if you have more than 20 systems it should be worth it to figure out some method of auto install that works
[12:49] <cvr> esing2: have u looked around at all those settings in ccsm to see if anything looks amiss?
[12:49] <esing2> cvr hmm
[12:49] <esing2> sec
[12:50] <esing2> cvr well i changed hide launcher to never
[12:50] <cm-t> sacarlson: you don't know if it should work with lxc? many told me about that, but their channel looks afk. My vm just finish to be installed, trying chroot
[12:50] <sacarlson> cm-t: I've never heard of lxc
[12:50] <sacarlson> cm-t there was one last method I didn't try that looked hopfull
[12:50] <XGaryG> I just installed, and it says there is no lightning for the current version of thunderbird?
[12:51] <cm-t> sacarlson: sort of chroot ++   lxc→ linux container
[12:51] <zombifier> XGaryG: You installed Lightning from which source?
[12:51] <sacarlson> cm-t: by the end of the live install they have already chroot
[12:52] <cvr> esing2: whats the launcher opacity set at?
[12:52] <XGaryG> I have not installed it.  I just updated the system, and when looking in 'pluggins' it said there was not verstion .
[12:53] <sacarlson> cm-t: this is the method I found later but never tried http://fai-project.org/
[12:53] <touil> cvr : well again with the module unloaded with modprobe, my power consumption is 6.7 W, and with the module reloaded again and connected via wifi, the power consumption is 5.14W
[12:53] <zombifier> XGaryG: Try reinstalling xul-ext-lightning
[12:53] <sacarlson> cm-t: completely devoted to auto install so it must work
[12:53] <zombifier> Wait XGaryG, what Thunderbird are you using?
[12:54] <XGaryG> It is 12.0.1
[12:54] <sacarlson> cm-t: what ever you end up with I would like to hear the outcome.
[12:55] <XGaryG> Reinstall that from where?
[12:55] <cvr> touil: are u measuring power usage through a meter in series with the machine?
[12:55] <esing2> cvl 1,0000
[12:55] <zombifier> XGaryG: The latest Lightning (1.5) only works with Thunderbird 13. You could either install 1.4 or wait for 13 to make it into the repos
[12:56] <cm-t> sacarlson: no problem
[12:56] <touil> No I'm measuring it with powertop.
[12:56] <cm-t> sacarlson: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/calubiquity/+spec/sso-oneconf
[12:57] <cvr> touil: so theres a possiblity its a powertop bug?
[12:57] <XGaryG> That is odd. Including Lightning 1.5 before the Thunderbird 13 catches up.
[12:57] <cm-t> sacarlson: we work on the devel, but its very dirty atm
[12:57] <touil> I'm guessing it's not. When I launch the ubuntu power statistic thing, it says exactly the same as powertop.
[12:58] <rohit786> hi, can some one help me, i am not able to install addons in firefox.
[12:58] <cvr> touil: but its probably using the same backend
[12:58] <cm-t> sacarlson: atm readin your link :)
[13:00] <sacarlson> cm-t: I used the python to access skype http://skype4py.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/skype4py/examples/sms.py?view=log
[13:01] <sacarlson> sorry wrong page for the last thing I sent
[13:01] <BlueChaos> hey
[13:01] <touil> cvr, I noticed by myself that the battery lasts less time with the wifi off, than with the wifi on.
[13:01] <sacarlson> cm-t ignore my last link
[13:02] <XGaryG> zombifier: How do I get lightning 1.4 ?
[13:02] <sacarlson> oh it's my beer time see ya all later
[13:02] <cm-t> sacarlson: ok
[13:02] <touil> I'm maybe a little weird myself, because I'm complaining that I can use my nettop for a longer time with the wifi on. (But I don't want to get microwaves constantly on my body).
[13:02] <esing2> cvr iam currently installing teamviewer because making screenshots of all cmsm tabs is very much ^^
[13:03] <zombifier> Wait, on my side xul-ext-lightning still says 1.4
[13:04] <zombifier> Are you trying to install Lightning from addons.mozilla.org or ubuntu's repo?
[13:04] <thiebaude> how do i delete an unallocated to free up space?
[13:04] <XGaryG> Where are you looking? From plugins in thunderbird?
[13:04] <thiebaude> partition that is
[13:04] <touil> cvr, could you tell me on which irc channel I should report this "bug" ?
[13:04] <zombifier> On addons.mozilla.org it's 1.5 alright, but in Ubuntu's repo it's still 1.4
[13:04] <cvr> touil: http://launchpad.net/
[13:05] <esing2> cvr: id 697 881 706
[13:06] <rohit786> hi, unable to install addons on firefox?
[13:07] <zombifier> rohit786: Did you receive any errors?
[13:07] <thiebaude> i just deleted my windows partition and i am not getting the space from that on ubuntu 12.04
[13:07] <esing2> cvr you got teamviewer ?
[13:07] <rohit786> zombifier:No
[13:08] <zombifier> What exactly is the problem? You installed an addon but it does not show up in about:addons?
[13:08] <mikubuntu> question, why doesn't pangolin ask me for a password to do updates?  i din't change any settings when i upgraded, so its a curiosity
[13:08] <cvr> esing2: never heard of it just looking at it now
[13:08] <`thomas> i've set FONTFACE="Terminus" and FONTSIZE="20x10" in /etc/default/console-setup, but `sudo /etc/init.d/console-setup restart' has no effect, while `setupcon' does change to terminus
[13:08] <zombifier> mikubuntu: It has been that way since probably 11.10
[13:09] <zombifier> Only updates that has to install packages ask you for a password
[13:09] <rohit786> zombifier: the downloading of addons do not start at all
[13:09] <zombifier> From addons.mozilla.org?
[13:10] <rohit786> zombifier: i tried that also
[13:10] <esing2> cvr www.teamviewer.com (u only need to enter my ID and see my screen)
[13:10] <rohit786> zombifier : even i reinstalled firefox
[13:10] <wilee-nilee> thiebaude, you have to resize the ubuntu partitons to take up any unallocated space.
[13:11] <kills> ciao
[13:11] <thiebaude> ahh ok then just shrink the linux partitons?
[13:11] <mikubuntu> zombifier: ok, i upgraded from 10.10 i think so i wouldn't have known it -- just wanted to make sure that wasn't a possible sign of a security breach ... speaking of security breaches ... i haven't run a firewall in years, because it seems like once way long ago when i did, it interfered with certain webpages --- what is the general consensus on firewalls?  run or not run?
[13:11] <kills> flist
[13:11] <piglit> hello anyone tired a a IP camera from Deal extreme on ubuntu?
[13:11] <XGaryG> zombifier: I got it. I was trying to get it from addons in thunderbird. I used apt-get to get what you originally suggested, and it works.  Thanks.
[13:11] <thiebaude> increase i mean
[13:11] <thiebaude> ext 4
[13:12] <zombifier> no prob
[13:12] <rohit786> unable to add addons on firefox?
[13:12] <thiebaude> wilee-nilee do i do that from the live cd?
[13:12] <alFReD-NSH> Hi, is there a way that when my laptop is plugged out, and starts using the battery, a command will be run automatically?
[13:12] <zombifier> rohit786: Try moving the .mozilla folder in your home to somewhere else (in order to have FIrefox start fresh) and see if problem persists
[13:13] <wilee-nilee> thiebaude, take a screenshot of gparted and imagebin it, you can't change a partition your using so a live ubuntu cd will be needed unless you have more then one Linux install and use the other to change the one you want to expand.
[13:13] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin | thiebaude
[13:14] <thiebaude> thanks i'll do that
[13:14] <cvr> esing2: doesnt seem to connect to you
[13:14] <bastidrazor> mz|`: addition checks for ppa's also if /etc/apt/sources.list isn't the only location of sources.. those two things are enough reason to use a proper upgrade method.
[13:16] <esing2> cvr uhm sec
[13:16] <rohit786> zombifier: i moved the .mozilla folder, no change
[13:16] <thiebaude> wilee-nilee here it is http://imagebin.org/215844
[13:16] <pi3ch> does anyone know a resource for stat on the most frequent linux commands? I dont mean top X command. A real statistic I m looking for.
[13:16] <esing2> cvr: id 697 881 706
[13:16] <esing2> password see private message
[13:17] <cvr> esing2: ok got it
[13:17] <esing2> yup :)
[13:17] <vean> hi
[13:17] <thiebaude> and when i click on allocated, i cant change anything
[13:18] <rohit786> unable to add addons to firefox ?
[13:18] <esing2> cvr i set lauchner reveal pressure to 1 from 20 , (suggested in ubuntu forum(
[13:18] <wilee-nilee> thiebaude, use a live cd make sure the swap in not mounted resize the extended sda3 first to the left then the sda5. YOU may have to reload grub to the mbr to boot is all, no biggie though.
[13:18] <thiebaude> ok thanks :)
[13:19] <wilee-nilee> thiebaude, no problem. ;)
[13:19] <caiyue> how about fodora?
[13:19] <caiyue> fedora
[13:19] <thiebaude> what is the command to reload grub?
[13:19] <Dr_Willis__> caiyue:  and thats related to Ubuntu support how?
[13:19] <rohit786> i am unable to add addons on firefox
[13:20] <rohit786> someone help me
[13:20] <zombifier> rohit786: Patient. If noone here can't answer your question, try ubuntuforums.org
[13:20] <cvr> esing2: very strange eh
[13:20] <Infernal> wtf
[13:20] <esing2> cvr yes ^^^
[13:20] <esing2> cvr maybe i really should try to reinstall ubuntu 12.04
[13:21] <cvr> it shouldnt have to come to that
[13:21] <wilee-nilee> thiebaude, there are several way the boot-repair tool recommended fix is the easiest probably. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair  other wise it is a chroot to the install, or maybe a couple of commands from the live cd.
[13:22] <cm-t> sacarlson: I just did a chroot from a live-cd to the current installed / on hdd.  I did sudo apt-get install vrms. i reboot on the all new / and run vrms,  worked !!!!!!
[13:22] <nannes> !broadcom
[13:22] <cvr> esing2: but might just be easier todo
[13:22] <esing2> cvr yes
[13:23] <esing2> cvr i saw some interesting forum threads about a similar problem
[13:23] <esing2> i show you
[13:23] <caiyue> konw little about  linux
[13:23] <cvr> esing2: driver related?
[13:23] <esing2> nope but a configuration in ccem
[13:23] <esing2> *ccsm
[13:24] <esing2> i already turned of autohide
[13:25] <esing2> my wlan broke down
[13:25] <esing2> sec
[13:26] <mz|`> bastidrazor: sure, add -R
[13:27] <scotty^> Which channel should I use to raise an issue with a page on the Ubuntu website?
[13:27] <mz|`> scotty^: http://www.ubuntu.com/contact-us
[13:28] <mz|`> category web feedback
[13:28] <scotty^> thanks - there's no IRC channel?
[13:28] <ikonia> scotty^: why do you need an IRC channel ?
[13:28] <mz|`> some ops maybe to contact directly :)
[13:28] <ikonia> scotty^: if there is an issue and you want it fixed, provide the feedback
[13:29] <mz|`> but ikonia is right, report yourself is better than talk to another person
[13:29] <scotty^> Guess I'll do that then.  Thanks for the pointer to that web page.
[13:29] <LjL> scotty^: there is #ubuntu-website, but i'm not sure they accept bugs there
[13:30] <esing2> how do I find out in ubuntu which graficcard my PC has
[13:30] <LjL> esing2: "sudo lshw -C display" should do it
[13:31] <scotty^> esing2: or type lspci -vvnn |grep VGA
[13:32] <esing2> yep
[13:32] <esing2> got it th
[13:32] <scotty^> esing2:  What type of card is it BTW?
[13:32] <BlueChaos> guys who know this software http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJV6apS9BoY how he`s called to install
[13:33] <esing2> scotty^ its amd x300
[13:33] <vvompy> hi, I just received my rasppi and want to "share" my laptop wifi connection over my cable ethernet connection to the rasp..is that possible and if yes how?
[13:33] <mz|`> BlueChaos: on the dscription... install gnome-color-chooser
[13:33] <esing2> AMD ATI Rv370 X300
[13:33] <mz|`> i   gnome-color-chooser                                         - GTK+/GNOME desktop appearance customization tool
[13:35] <cyberdo> ganeti @ ubuntu.. is there a dedicated channel?
[13:35] <cvr> esing2: which driver are you using for that card?
[13:36] <esing2> cvr i didnt install any driver, so it must be the standard driver from ubuntu,
[13:36] <esing2> dunno how to read out of the termina which driver it is exactly
[13:37] <mz|`> esing2: lsmod ?
[13:37] <dmitriy_> hi2all
[13:37] <cvr> esing2: try running jockey-gtk to see whats available there
[13:37] <mz|`> esing2: then modinfo <module>
[13:39] <bastidrazor> esing2: the command LjL gave you will tell you which driver you're using.
[13:39] <vinus> how to fix the resolution  of grub screen
[13:40] <esing2> cvr no driver were found
[13:40] <esing12> (jockey-gtk:3912): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_set_render_icon_pixbuf: assertion `icon_set != NULL' failed
[13:40] <esing12> (jockey-gtk:3912): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_set_render_icon_pixbuf: assertion `icon_set != NULL' failed
[13:41] <MamTrzyGie> hi
[13:41] <vinus> hi, i have installed ubuntu 12.04 along with windows xp, in the starting os selection screen it is showing that resolution is not optimum, how to adjust that? please help...
[13:41] <MamTrzyGie> xbox360 czy ps3?
[13:41] <esing2> bastidrazor ?
[13:41] <scotty^> cvr: Catalyst (fglrx) dropped support for that generation of cards a while ago so he is probably using the open-source radeon driver.
[13:41] <esing2> bastidrazor which command you mean
[13:42] <bastidrazor> esing2: sudo lshw -C display
[13:42] <cvr> esing2: sudo /usr/bin/lshw -C display | grep driver
[13:42] <esing2> ok it says PCI (sysfs)
[13:43] <BlueChaos> mzl`
[13:43] <BlueChaos> I see that but the link is not avaible
[13:43] <vinus> hi, i have installed ubuntu 12.04 along with windows xp, in the starting os selection screen it is showing that resolution is not optimum, how to adjust that? please help...
[13:43] <esing2> driver = radeon
[13:43] <vinus> any one please help me
[13:43] <scotty^> esing2: try installing mesa-utils and then running glxinfo |grep render
[13:44] <esing2> mesa-utils wasnt found scotty^
[13:44] <Korallis> whats a better card inside linux. Nvidia or ATI?
[13:44] <scotty^> esing2: never  mind, you've found out that it's the radeon driver
[13:44] <scotty^> esing2: no need to run that command
[13:45] <esing2> ok
[13:45] <scotty^> Korallis:  That's a good way to start a flame war :)
[13:45] <esing2> i need some free time
[13:45] <esing2> my leg hurts ^^, hopefully i can solve this issue later
[13:46] <Korallis> scotty^, Hehe so theres no answer. :P
[13:47] <Bower^> when i execute "java -jar selenium.jar &" in the bash terminal then press ctrl+c i get the bash prompt back but the process isn't killed. when i execute something like "gedit test.txt" then press ctrl+c i get back the prompt back and it kills the process. why is this? is there a command to get the prompt back and always kill the process?
[13:47] <cvr> Korallis: it used to be nvidia proprietry hands down, but apparently ati have picked up the ball recently
[13:48] <wilee-nilee> vinus, do you know the resolutions allowed, and do you know how to chroot?
[13:48] <Chuck_Norris> Bower^: try: fg  then kill it
[13:48] <Huffameg> hello! i have a big problem: after my to-impatient upgrade to ubuntu precise my wifi connection went missing completely. it just doesn't appear. i have received help on other ubuntu channels the problem persists. i have a bcm4313 wifi card. we tried to blacklist all the broadcom modules, and we tried to activate the broadcom driver in the system. it seemed then to work for a while, but apparently (according to the person helping me) while it looked like it wa
[13:48] <Chuck_Norris> with Ctrl + C
[13:48] <Huffameg> s able to compile the driver and add it to the kernel, we got an error, and after rebooting we haven't been able to get it working again. this really bugs me, and i need my wifi. someone who can help med, please?
[13:49] <scotty^> Korallis: but one aspect of the situation is that NVIDIA tend to have better proprietary drivers, whereas ATI puts more support into the open-source drivers.  This leads to ATI cards having better open-source drivers in most cases, although the independent nouveau driver for NVIDIA cards has made some impressive improvements lately and also has a couple of projects in X.org's endless vacation of code (EVoC).
[13:49] <Korallis> cvr, thats good to know atm i have a nvidia 285GTX and im seriously concidering an upgrade to an ATI Card, but seen as i just jumped into linux about 3 hours ago and deleted my windows partition. i needed to confirm
[13:50] <Chuck_Norris> ye, agreed ATI better open source driver and Nvidia Better proprietary driver
[13:50] <Korallis> scotty^, so by using the proprietary driver? am i doing the right thing?
[13:51] <zombifier> Actually, NVIDIA's proprietary driver is buggy as heck
[13:51] <zombifier> Nouveau is much better
[13:51] <wilee-nilee> Huffameg, generally with a release upgrade you would remove the old driver, and install the new one, but this is with graphic drivers in general.
[13:51] <cvr> Korallis: best thing you can do for yourself with any future hardware purchases research the item you're looking at buying before hand and see its level of support or issues other people have had with it
[13:51] <escott> Korallis, if you are considering buying an ATI do check the support level for that card. the open source drivers will have more variation in support levels depending on whether or not one of the developers ever got an engineering sample.
[13:52] <Korallis> cvr, thanks il do that but 1stly if im playing wow / d3 i need the proprietery drivers yes. ?
[13:52] <Huffameg> wilee-nilee: okay. unfortunatlely i would need some help with these things..
[13:52] <Chuck_Norris> Huffameg: try: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[13:52] <scotty^> Korallis: On a 285GTX, the proprietary driver is probably the way to go at the moment.
[13:52] <Korallis> escott, if it ment i could play D3 and WoW under linux and not have to reinstall windows id buy 3 of the cards and donate one to the devs.
[13:52] <Haffe> Hi. I am trying to boot a usbstick with ubuntu on it. I have tried, Ubuntu 11.10, Xubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04, Xubuntu 12.04. I know that my computer can boot off of a usb stick. I have been using unetbootin to make the usb stick. The stick in question is a Sandisk cruzer blade 32 gb. Does anyone have an idea what I am doing wrong?
[13:52] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: ok.
[13:53] <scotty^> zombifier:  Agreed that nouveau is great for older cards, but for newer cards they are still sorting out the re-clocking.
[13:53] <ragnok> heloo. if i want to install a development enviroment into a ubuntu 10.04 server, a lamp stack, can i get everything from the official repos or do i need some ppa?
[13:53] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: it ended with the following message: "No chroot environment found. Starting normal installation
[13:53] <Huffameg> Unsupported device(s) found: PCI id 14e4:4727
[13:53] <Huffameg> Aborting."
[13:53] <cvr> Korallis: yeh i'd think so, think u'll struggle to get a good experience with wow, etc
[13:54] <jemark> Haffe: try another pc and/or format the usb stick as FAT32
[13:54] <Chuck_Norris> Huffameg: is PCI or USB?
[13:54] <Korallis> cvr, Thank you for the info. like i said i am very new to this and glad for the information, as so far im really enjoying it :-)
[13:54] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: i'm sorry?
[13:54] <roasted_> Question - I have a semi unique situation here where I'd like to move all files older than 2 days from /media/NAS/video to /media/NAS/video-archive. I was planning on doing a bin bash script with cron, but I'm not sure exactly what command I'd use to sift out the date stamps. Any idea?
[13:54] <scotty^> Korallis: If you want to play WoW under Linux I think you will need to install WINE.
[13:54] <zombifier> scotty^: Dunno if my card is old though, it's a GT218 (GeForce 210)
[13:55] <Korallis> scotty^, already done :-) thats the good thing with a completley new style OS, Google is amazing :D and ubuntu is the most well documented "Anything" ive ever seen :-)
[13:55] <Chuck_Norris> Huffameg: why?
[13:55] <escott> roasted_ find /media/NAS/video -mtime 2 -exec mv {} /media/NAS/video-archive
[13:56] <raven> how to assign applications to file-formats (for opening from file-browser) in xubuntu 12.04?
[13:56] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: i don't understand you question, sorry..
[13:56] <Huffameg> :/
[13:56] <roasted_> escott, I assume -mtime defaults to "days", so if I see fit I can customize 2 to whatever day amount I want?
[13:56] <Chuck_Norris> i meant open a terminal and copy & paste this command: lspci
[13:56] <Chuck_Norris> and paste: lsusb   as well
[13:57] <escott> roasted_, you may need a -type f -and clause as well. not sure how directories are treated. you can put any value you want in for that. check the man page but i think its days
[13:57] <Chuck_Norris> but... paste it here ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:57] <roasted_> escott, man page for... mv?
[13:57]  * scotty^ checks http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames
[13:57] <escott> roasted_, for find
[13:58] <roasted_> ah, okay
[13:58] <roasted_> appreciate it!
[13:58] <escott> roasted_, and i left out the \; at the end of the -exec clause
[13:58] <kanha_> what does this command do "mount -rw -0 remount /" ?
[13:58] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1033770/
[13:59] <Chuck_Norris> Huffameg: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[13:59] <escott> kanha_, it remounts the / partition in a read-write mode. when the partition is first mounted it is mounted read-only so it can be fsck'ed and then remounted so you can write to it
[13:59] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: and: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1033773/
[14:00] <gurjeet> Can somebody here please help me removing the extra space above the firefox tabs? Here's a video of the problem : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_TYNMRD5i8
[14:00] <kanha_> thanks escott :)
[14:00] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: ok.. i reboot?
[14:00] <zally666> hi
[14:00] <zally666> so how do i fix a tvtuner in ubuntu ?
[14:00] <gurjeet> All was working fine on Linux Mint 10, and then I moved to Ubuntu 12.
[14:01] <Chuck_Norris> ok reboot
[14:01] <escott> gurjeet, looks like you have some kind of toolbar there. perhaps you need to disable the menubar if it is appearing in the unity global menubar
[14:01] <zally666> hi how do i fix my analog tuner ?
[14:02] <Chuck_Norris> !details | zally666
[14:02] <zally666> im running precise when i try to scan channels in tvtime i get screen for 5 seconds
[14:03] <zally666> but i expected channels
[14:03] <Chuck_Norris> Huffameg: open "Additional drivers" and activate your Broadcom wireless card
[14:03] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: ok. no luck yet.
[14:03] <Huffameg> ok
[14:03] <zally666> nobody ?
[14:04] <escott> !patience | zally666
[14:04] <tim167> hello, i installed samba and set sharing options for a folder on computer 1, I browse to "BrowseNetwork">"Windows Network">"MyComputer">"sharedfolder" but I get "Unable to mount location - failed to mount Windows share", can someone help? thanks
[14:04] <zally666> why dont i have a window manager ?
[14:05] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: it get the same error message as i've gotten all along. jockey says this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1033783/
[14:05] <cvr> zally666: which wm do you expect to have?
[14:05] <tim167> hello, i installed samba and set sharing options for a folder on computer 1, I browse to "BrowseNetwork">"Windows Network">"MyComputer">"sharedfolder" on computer 2 but I get "Unable to mount location - failed to mount Windows share", both computers are Ubuntu, connected to eachother via ethernet cable, can someone help? thanks
[14:05] <zally666> regular ubuntu gnome one
[14:07] <shallwe> hi guys, ati driver for ubuntu, is it good? like nvidia?
[14:07] <Chuck_Norris> Huffameg: try: modprobe b43
[14:08] <shallwe> or full compatibility
[14:08] <shallwe> ?
[14:08] <tim167> hello, i installed samba and set sharing options for a folder on computer 1, I browse to "BrowseNetwork">"Windows Network">"MyComputer">"sharedfolder" on computer 2 but I get "Unable to mount location - failed to mount Windows share", both computers are Ubuntu, connected to eachother via ethernet cable, can someone help? thanks
[14:08] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1033786/
[14:09] <Chuck_Norris> sry Huffameg: sudo modprobe b43
[14:09] <Huffameg> ok
[14:10] <gurjeet> Hey guys.. Sorry I didn't see who responded to me earlier. But here's the solution: Disable "Global Menubar Integration" addon. Description says " This extension integrates the menu bar into the Unity panel".
[14:10] <jemark> ~1
[14:10] <gurjeet> I can conform that the menubar is well integrated with unity even without that addon.
[14:10] <jemark> ~~~~~~
[14:11] <jemark> sorry about that
[14:11] <tim167> I installed samba and set sharing options for a folder on computer 1, then I go to "BrowseNetwork">"Windows Network">"MyComputer">"sharedfolder" on computer 2 but I get "Unable to mount location - failed to mount Windows share", both computers are Ubuntu, connected to eachother via ethernet cable, can someone help? thanks
[14:11] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: done. i also think we did this.. we followed the recipe on http://askubuntu.com/questions/94021/how-do-i-get-the-broadcom-bcm4313-wireless-working-on-an-asus-1015px
[14:12] <Chuck_Norris> solved?
[14:12] <nicola> ciao
[14:13] <Ormie> Hi. Just uninstalled unity and use compiz, everything works fine, but
[14:13] <foobArrr> I'm trying to get my dvb-t usb stick to work (Terratec Cinergy Hybrid T USB XS, supported by kernel 2.6.31 according to linux-tv.org). I tried a channel scan with kaffeine, it finds only 4 channels, all on the same transponder. It doesn't find the other 12 channels it should find.
[14:13] <Ormie> I can't select which wireless network i will use?
[14:13] <Chuck_Norris> Huffameg: ye this recipe will help ya for sure
[14:13] <Ormie> what to do!
[14:13] <Ormie> !!!
[14:14] <Chuck_Norris> these*
[14:14] <jemark> foobArrr: there is a website where you can download the channel list, you can google for that.
[14:14] <cvr> foobArrr: have u tried it with the channel.conf for your area?
[14:14] <Ormie> please help
[14:15] <Ormie> :(
[14:15] <islandmonkey> Hi everyone. Having a bit of a problem with dpkg - installing qgis from a PPA but there are dependency issues. Now dpkg has thrown it's toys out the pram and refuses to do anything.
[14:15] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: well.. we tried it, but i didn't help. the person that helped me said that the problem started because when we tried to activate the driver, it seemed to be able to add, but that it failed for some reason it would say..
[14:15] <foobArrr> jemark: thanks. cvr; I have not.
[14:15] <islandmonkey> Here the terminal output: Unpacking grass-core (from .../grass-core_6.4.2-2~precise2_amd64.deb) ...
[14:15] <cvr> foobArrr: check out /usr/share/dvb/dvb-t/
[14:15] <islandmonkey> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/grass-core_6.4.2-2~precise2_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[14:15] <islandmonkey>  trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/x-grass', which is also in package grass 6.4.1-1ubuntu2
[14:15] <islandmonkey> dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[14:15] <islandmonkey> Errors were encountered while processing:
[14:15] <islandmonkey>  /var/cache/apt/archives/grass-core_6.4.2-2~precise2_amd64.deb
[14:15] <FloodBot1> islandmonkey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:15] <islandmonkey> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[14:15] <foobArrr> cvr: thanks
[14:15] <tim167> I installed samba and set sharing options for a folder on computer 1, then I go to "BrowseNetwork">"Windows Network">"MyComputer">"sharedfolder" on computer 2 but I get "Unable to mount location - failed to mount Windows share", both computers are Ubuntu, connected to eachother via ethernet cable, can someone help? thanks
[14:16] <Chuck_Norris> Ormie: do: iwconfig   (and you will see your wireless interfaces)  and turn off the one that you don't wanna to use with: sudo ifconfig <insterface> down   and the one you wanna to use with: sudo ifconfig <interface> up
[14:16] <zombifier> !pastebin| islandmonkey
[14:17] <islandmonkey> Whoops. Here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1033801/
[14:17] <Chuck_Norris> Huffameg: so... let follow the askubuntu tutorial?
[14:17] <scotty^> Korallis: According to my interpretation of the report at http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEwNjk and the page at http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames your GTX285 will probably have good support, but zombifier's GeForce 210 is actually newer and might be stuck on the default slower clocks for now.
[14:18] <Ormie> Chuck_Norris, It's already on, I can't select from the menu in cairo dock because there are no options
[14:18] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: maybe i'm not understanding you correctly now; we tried it – didn't work
[14:18] <scotty^> zombifier: According to my interpretation of the report at http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEwNjk and the page at http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames Korallis's GTX285 will probably have good support, but your GeForce 210 is actually newer and might be stuck on the default slower clocks for now.
[14:19] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: and it was apparently impossible to understand why it failed.
[14:20] <Ormie> please help
[14:20] <chu> Ormie: What's wrong?
[14:20] <tim167> I installed samba and set sharing options for a folder on computer 1, then I go to "BrowseNetwork">"Windows Network">"MyComputer">"sharedfolder" on computer 2 but I get "Unable to mount location - failed to mount Windows share", both computers are Ubuntu, connected to eachother via ethernet cable, can someone help? thanks
[14:21] <Ormie> chu, um...
[14:21] <islandmonkey> 	Hi everyone. Having a bit of a problem with dpkg - installing qgis from a PPA but there are dependency issues. Now dpkg has thrown it's toys out the pram and refuses to do anything.
[14:21] <Ormie> chu, I want to connect to another wireless network, It doesn't give me an option
[14:21] <Ormie> I am on cairo
[14:21] <Ormie> i just uninstalled unity
[14:22] <islandmonkey> Terminal output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1033801/
[14:22] <cvr> islandmonkey: tried removing the package grass?
[14:23] <islandmonkey> Ormie: I believe uninstalling unity is not advised.
[14:23] <islandmonkey> cvr: Won't do it.
[14:24] <Ormie> islandmonkey, if canonical's developers can put unity in we can take it out.
[14:24] <cvr> islandmonkey: dpkg -r grass does what?
[14:24] <Ormie> and tweak XD
[14:24] <islandmonkey> Lovely, thank you!
[14:24] <Ormie> :(
[14:25] <Ormie> help me
[14:25] <jemark> Ormie: what DM are you going to use?
[14:25] <cvr> Ormie: which DE are u running now?
[14:26] <Ormie> jemark, cvr: cairo dock's de
[14:26] <islandmonkey> Only cairo dock? That's not really a desktop environment.
[14:27] <lightstep> hello all. is there a guide how to get the visualization plugin for rhythmbox on ubuntu?
[14:27] <jemark> Ormie: and the desktop environment is?
[14:27] <zombifier> Cairo Dock installs a new session for itself in LightDM
[14:27] <zombifier> Which pretty much launches Compiz and Cairo Dock
[14:27] <Ormie> jemark, it's cairo dock's Desktop environment, Cairo dock offers a desktop environment.
[14:28] <jemark> zombifier: do you have a screenshot?
[14:28] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: you disappeared
[14:29] <Chuck_Norris> ye, loss mah connection i was download manny pacquio vs bradley and almost have it and loss mah connection and downloading again =(
[14:30] <zombifier> jemark: No I don't, but there a loads of them on the web
[14:30] <mikubuntu> i haven't run a firewall in years, because it seems like once way long ago when i did, it interfered with certain webpages --- what is the general consensus on firewalls?  run or not run?
[14:30] <Ormie> :(
[14:30] <Huffameg> hehe
[14:30] <jemark> zombifier: you probably mean Gnome+Cairo dock...
[14:30] <zombifier> jemark: Yeah
[14:31] <Chuck_Norris> so, did you do the asubuntu tutorial?
[14:31] <Cheery> How to get ~/Desktop removed and discontinue showing it on the background?
[14:31] <escott> !info gconf-editor | Cheery
[14:32] <Cheery> is it also possible to get right-click on background show a different menu?
[14:32] <jemark> zombifier: that's different
[14:32] <Cheery> (well it is, but is it easily possible?)
[14:33] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: as I said: the tutorial that i sent you – i've allready done that, and it didn't work.
[14:33] <aguitel> is anyway to install whatsupp under ubuntu?
[14:33] <zombifier> jemark: Dunno, but AFAIK Cairo Dock's session launches Cairo Dock and Compiz only
[14:33] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: the problem is that the person helping me was unable to tell why the activation of the driver failed
[14:34] <Chuck_Norris> Huffameg: maybe you did something wrong couse the user says that its works con 4313 which is you wireless card
[14:34] <jemark> zombifier: Compiz is also needed... because that's the window manager.
[14:34] <escott> Cheery, under the applications nautilus there are various options for the root windo
[14:34] <Chuck_Norris> Huffameg: ok, paste: cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[14:34] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: well, yeah. something, somewhere, is wrong.. i just don't know where..
[14:35] <Huffameg> ok
[14:35] <Cheery> escott: how do I get the effects visible once I change the config?
[14:35] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1033829/
[14:36] <roasted_> Anybody know of a comparison program, where I can load up two config/text files and the differences are highlighted?
[14:37] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: but we also made a blacklist-local.conf
[14:37] <Chuck_Norris> Huffameg: gksu /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf   and append at the end: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1033833/
[14:37] <Chuck_Norris> sry Huffameg: gksu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[14:37] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: the blacklist-local.conf is this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1033836/
[14:38] <lightstep> roasted_, i like meld, but there are a lot of programs for that. search for "Graphical diff" in the software center and you'll find all of them
[14:38] <roasted_> lightstep, graphical diff... thanks, appreciate it!
[14:39] <Chuck_Norris> idk, just do what i wrote you, is the same as the askubuntu user says
[14:39] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: okay. i've added. and rebooting.
[14:39] <Chuck_Norris> ok
[14:40] <escott> Cheery, should be immediate unless there is a dconf/gconf issue. in which case use dconf-editor in dcont-utils
[14:40] <fr-z> Hi all. Does anyone know how to solve the problem with the .private folder? i have a 100 gb disk and that folder consumed already 70 gb
[14:41] <jeffmr> is there a linux mint channel
[14:42] <esing2^afk> do you recommend me to install 11.04 for stabilty reasons?
[14:42] <oCean> !mint | jeffmr
[14:42] <jeffmr> linux mint
[14:42] <Chuck_Norris> Huffameg: gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local   and add the following above exit 0  "modprobe brcm80211"  without quotes
[14:42] <jeffmr> thanks
[14:42] <oCean> jeffmr: note it is another IRC network
[14:42] <jeffmr> ok
[14:42] <in0cula> how do i check my network installed drivers
[14:42] <jeffmr> good thing
[14:43] <jeffmr> very good
[14:43] <cvr> esing2^afk: 11.04 unity is less stable than 12.04
[14:43] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: ok. now what?
[14:44] <Sonderblade> after upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04, ubuntu hangs before starting xorg. how to diagnose the problem?
[14:44] <Cheery> escott: is there way I could change the toolbar include some icons?
[14:44] <Chuck_Norris> now... reboot -.- xD
[14:44] <Huffameg> :)
[14:44] <escott> Cheery, what toolbar?
[14:44] <Cheery> the topmost toolbar.. in unity/gnome-shell
[14:44] <Korallis> if i wanna completley purge wine. do i just need to rename the .wine directory or do i need to actually type some commands?
[14:44] <escott> fr-z, did you put 70GB of data in it
[14:45] <cvr> Korallis: sudo apt-get purge wine
[14:45] <Chuck_Norris> Korallis: sudo apt-get remove wine   and remove the .wine directory
[14:46] <cvr> Korallis: if you want to get rid of the stuff u installed in wine rm the ~/.wine folder
[14:46] <fr-z> escott i dont know how that folder uses that space. i dont even know what it has
[14:46] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: ok. still nothing, though
[14:47] <zally666> so any tv tuner freaxx around ?
[14:47] <Korallis> cvr thanks :-)
[14:47] <Chuck_Norris> Huffameg: paste: lsmod
[14:47] <mi3> mne bi hotliso peotsi pitsu :D
[14:47] <cvr> fr-z: du -sh ./*
[14:48] <fr-z> cvr what does that command do?
[14:48] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1033851/
[14:48] <zally666> i wondder how to fix my tvtuner
[14:48] <Chuck_Norris> Huffameg: if its a notebook be sure that the wireless card is turn it on pressing the buton or the key combinations
[14:48] <escott> fr-z, i think its your ciphertext for your encrypted data
[14:48] <escott> Cheery, which one shell or unity
[14:48] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: hehe.. sure
[14:48] <fr-z> escott can i clean it up?
[14:49] <Cheery> escott: I'm not sure.. but I'd say this is shell I'm on.
[14:49] <escott> Cheery, extensions.gnome.org
[14:49] <cvr> fr-z: tells disk usage for the folder you're in and subs
[14:50] <lightstep> i see no one answers my rhythmbox question... so let me ask another one. how can i downgrade a package to a version from a few months ago? the new version is buggy on my machine
[14:50] <escott> fr-z, you shouldnt delete something unless you know what it is
[14:50] <fr-z> cvr it says 69 gb
[14:50] <Chuck_Norris> Huffameg: try: sudo rmmod wl ; sleep 5 ; sudo modprobe brcm80211
[14:51] <lightstep> i wanted to force the version in synaptic, but it's only aware of the most recent version
[14:51] <fr-z> escott how do i know what i have there?
[14:51] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: FATAL: Module brcm80211 not found
[14:51] <zally666> so what to apt-get to fix tvtuner ?
[14:51] <escott> fr-z, what does ls ~/.private say?
[14:52] <foobArrr> cvr: I tried "scan /usr/share/dvb/dvb-t/censored", but it finds only the same 4 channels
[14:52] <cvr> lightstep: check if you still have the old package in /var/cache/apt/archives
[14:52] <lightstep> cvr: nope
[14:53] <lightstep> will adding an old repository help?
[14:53] <remontees> espéranto power
[14:54] <cvr> foobArrr: are u able to access the other channels via that antenna?
[14:54] <cvr> lightstep: not advised
[14:54] <foobArrr> cvr: yes, works fine with terratec's software on windows and eyetv on os x
[14:55] <fr-z> escott it displays loads of encrypted things
[14:55] <Chuck_Norris> ok, idk but... i found this: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211   and this: http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt
[14:55] <escott> fr-z, then its your ciphertext
[14:55] <cvr> lightstep: goto the archive and manually download the version you are looking for
[14:56] <Chuck_Norris> Huffameg: i think that following the linuxwireless.org walkthrough you will get it
[14:56] <cvr> foobArrr: you dont have the tuner locked to that multiplex through some other program running?
[14:56] <fr-z> escott can i delete it or reduce its size? its getting 70 % of my disk :(
[14:57] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: hmm.. i'm sorry i don't quite get what to do..
[14:57] <foobArrr> cvr: doubt it, no other media players running
[14:57] <escott> fr-z, not without losing data
[14:58] <tuxx> this channel is the height of idiocy
[14:58] <Chuck_Norris> xD mmm... we will spend a looot of time in here with that
[14:58] <raven> how to assign applications to file-formats (for opening from file-browser) in xubuntu 12.04?
[14:58] <escott> fr-z, it sounds like you put on the order of 70gigs of data into your encrypted folders (the encryption will have some overhead but its not going to be that much) and that you just need to buy a bigger disk
[14:59] <foobArrr> raven: don't know about a gui way, but check out ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[14:59] <Chuck_Norris> the question is that you should install and load the "brcm80211" module which works with 4313 and others latest broadcom
[14:59] <raven> foobArrr tnx
[15:00] <fr-z> escott but what is that data? its my personal likes like musics and documents?
[15:01] <gbear14275> Hey guys,  I just suffered an unexplained no-notice sudden reboot.  I'm trying to look over the logs to figure out why it may have happened... but am short on being able to recognize abnormalities (my problem)...  was wondering though if anyone would be willing to give a syslog a quick once over in case they can spot anything?
[15:01] <foobArrr> raven: on a second thought, I don't know if that will help
[15:01] <gbear14275> I've been able to pick out the non-normal events from the end...  that was easy to do... but deciphering them is another story
[15:01] <escott> fr-z, "mount | grep private" will show you where the folder is loop mounted. its either your $HOME or ~/Private
[15:01] <Cyclohexane> if you do uniq -c how can you sort based on that number?
[15:02] <gbear14275> the one's that concern me are the "ext4_orphan_cleanup: deleting runreferenced inode ######" ones
[15:02] <escott> Cyclohexane, pipe to sort -n
[15:02] <nannes> Hi. Which drivers are needed for  realtek rtl8187se (pci) with Ubuntu12 kerneel 3.2  ???
[15:02] <nannes> !realtek
[15:03] <Huffameg> Chuck_Norris: is just that there's no step by step tutorial so it's hard to know what tot do
[15:03] <Chuck_Norris> Huffameg: ye i found one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1617380
[15:03] <escott> gbear14275, thats a side-effect of the reboot. the filesystem was unmounted uncleanly and so its deleting a file that was in the process of being deleted when the system crashed
[15:04] <fr-z> escott its my home
[15:04] <Kartagis> hi
[15:04] <Kartagis> can anyone do some debugging for me?
[15:05] <Chuck_Norris> oh! this is for natty narewall idk if its works on precise but... let search
[15:05] <Kartagis> my mic is not working
[15:05] <foobArrr> raven: right-click a file of that type -> properties -> open with
[15:05] <nannes> Hi. Which drivers are needed for  realtek rtl8187se (pci) with Ubuntu12 kerneel 3.2  ???
[15:06] <Kartagis> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=4cdc3aa76176dd199e2d53544e66dbbfa54c1442 <--- this is alsa-info.sh output
[15:06] <raven> foobArrr yes but after every reinstall i have to do it for every file type again and i want a list of all file types to do it one time
[15:07] <foobArrr> raven: no idea then
[15:07] <species_4981>  In a file manager, if I right-click on a file and say "open with|other application|show other applications", I see multiple entries for " A Wine application", multiple entries for  "MS Office" or "MS Access" or "MS Excel" or "Okular" amongst others - where does this list get generated and hw can I correct it to show one of each (or none, for that matter)? I have deleted MS Office from Wine - no difference though
[15:07] <Chuck_Norris> nannes: try: sudo rmmod iwlwifi ; sleep 5 ; sudo modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1
[15:08] <gbear14275> escott, thanks.  Is there anyway to try and track down the cause of the reboot?  Any log which might give a clue?
[15:08] <escott> species_4981, !/.local/share/applications
[15:08] <escott> species_4981, ~ not 1
[15:08] <raven> foobArrr i now try to find the right file with doing changes in nautilus preferences and lsof then but i cannot find anything useful any idea how to improve that?
[15:09] <species_4981> escott: got it - thanks for the info; will explore
[15:09] <foobArrr> raven: no
[15:09] <escott> gbear14275, you would want to look for messages from the kernel that indicate a problem, but since whatever it was caused an immediate reboot its unlikely anything reached the disk
[15:10] <gbear14275> escott, ok, thanks.  yeah was concerning...  sudden reboots make me nervous
[15:11] <escott> gbear14275, as they should, but you have to see if there is any pattern to them. "it only happens when i watch flash videos"
[15:11] <Yankees52> if i install ubuntu and delete linux mint will my home folder parition and settings be fine?
[15:11] <wdp> is there some easy way to compile a specific ubuntu kernel? All I need to do is to add a patch to make my keyboard working
[15:11] <Cyclohexane> whats the difference between less and more? -- more just keeps the output on screen?
[15:11] <wdp> (not even a patch required, a simple sed rule would work as well)
[15:12] <Dr_Willis__> Cyclohexane:   they do the same job
[15:12] <Cyclohexane> so why have 2 different commands? there must be a difference? ;p
[15:12] <Dr_Willis__> Cyclohexane: years ago we had 'more' then less came out as a more optmized more
[15:12] <Yankees52> if i install ubuntu and delete linux mint will my home folder parition and settings be fine?
[15:12] <gbear14275> escott, that was the weird thing... hasn't happened before and was simply in the middle of reading an article on the web...  no apparent cause to it
[15:12] <Dr_Willis__> Cyclohexane:  the 2 are the same command - an alias i belive
[15:12] <xubuntu5> less is awesome
[15:13] <microm> I downloaded Java JDK but how to I install it? It's the JDK I want, not the JRE, not the firefox plugin.
[15:13] <wdp> Just wondering about the workflow, I guess ubuntu got commands for that, if not I'd go the usual route (wget, tar .., make menuconfig, make bzImage; make modules modules_install; etc..)
[15:13] <Dr_Willis__> !java | microm
[15:13] <Korallis> how do i install 32bit development libraries?
[15:13] <xubuntu5> for java?
[15:13] <escott> Dr_Willis__, Cyclohexane they are actually different. less is the gnu version with more options, more is the old bsd variant. completely different binaries, i was suprised they bothered to include more
[15:14] <Dr_Willis__> escott:  last i looked one was an alias for the other.. unless you install both
[15:14] <nannes> Chuck_Norris: and then? do i need to reboot or just works?
[15:14] <Dr_Willis__> but it may depend on the disrto. ;) i rarelyu need to worry about it
[15:14] <Chuck_Norris> just works
[15:14] <escott> Dr_Willis__, diff /bin/more /bin/less (on 12.04) is Binary files /bin/more and /bin/less differ
[15:15] <w30> Cyclohexane, less allows you to scroll up or back
[15:16] <Korallis> configure: error: Cannot build a 32-bit program, you need to install 32-bit development libraries. How do i Do this?
[15:16] <mi3> Dr_willis, ya vernulsya :D
[15:16] <Dr_Willis__> next lets compare troff with groff  and nroff ;)
[15:17] <altin> I installed gnome shell i nubuntu 11.10
[15:17] <altin> but I dont have the bottom pannel
[15:18] <escott> Korallis, just install package:i386 as needed
[15:19] <compdoc> Korallis, are you running 64 bit?
[15:19] <Dr_Willis__> altin:  gnome shell dosent really have a bottom panel. just some status icons at the bottom right. If you want thebest gnome-shell , you should upgrade to 12.04
[15:19] <altin> Dr_Willis__, yes I was talking about those
[15:19] <altin> i was trying to edit workspace settings
[15:19] <nannes> Chuck_Norris: you deserve a beer.......
[15:19] <altin> but I cant find them
[15:19] <nannes> 2, too :D
[15:20] <Dr_Willis__> altin:  gnome-shell worked poorly in 11.10   broke unity also i belive
[15:20] <curiousx> nannes: xD give me one virtual beer i need it
[15:20] <altin> Dr_Willis__, so u suggest I upgrade ?
[15:20] <altin> hmm
[15:20] <zally666> how do i make from an script sh ... env vars do some do launch app with parameters ... can i make sutch a script into a -g flagged binary ?
[15:21]  * nannes offers everyone a virtual beer
[15:21] <Dr_Willis__> altin:  gnome shell dosent really have a bottom panel. just some status icons at the bottom right. If you want thebest gnome-shell , you should upgrade to 12.04
[15:21] <Dr_Willis__> i allready did altin ... ;)
[15:21] <altin> ok ok
[15:21] <altin> thnx :)
[15:23] <Korallis> compdoc, yes and tryin to install a patched 1.4 verison of wine. but i think someone managed to help me fix it with a dpkg command
[15:25] <compdoc> Korallis, cool. My advice would have been to google:  how to install ubuntu 32-bit development libraries
[15:25] <compdoc> some good info there
[15:27] <roia_> I need help with dhcp
[15:27] <Korallis> compdoc, thanks
[15:27] <roia_> i have two clients booting from pxe to nfs
[15:28] <roia_> only the first client reciev ip
[15:28] <roia_> second client is not booting
[15:28] <Chuck_Norris> where is the user with realtek? i forgot writing yoou something =P
[15:28] <joel135> hi, #ubuntu! when i issue "sudo apt-get remove firefox", apt wants to install epiphany instead. i need help finding the cause of this behaviour. is there perhaps a command that lists packages that (are installed && depends on firefox)?
[15:30] <joel135> the *-desktop packages I've used so far are ubuntu- and lubuntu- (both uninstalled by now). maybe there is a connection there
[15:32] <domedagen> Can someone recommend an USB-wlan card with native support for 64-bit Ubuntu?
[15:32] <escott> joel135, there might be some rule that says "you must have a browser from one of these 4"
[15:32] <^zenyhooubby-it> hello! :)
[15:32] <domedagen> I can't be the only one having this issue
[15:32] <^zenyhooubby-it> Can I still update from 10.10 to 11.04?
[15:33] <domedagen> ^zenyhooubby-it: I think you update step by step
[15:33] <domedagen> ^zenyhooubby-it: Thats how I got from 11.04 to 12.04
[15:33] <^zenyhooubby-it> yes domedagen
[15:34] <domedagen> ^zenyhooubby-it: Why dont you want to use the latest version?
[15:34] <compdoc> domedagen, did you see:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[15:34] <^zenyhooubby-it> I want 12, but I don't see the direct update!
[15:35] <SolarisBoy> probably need to tell update-manager you want to upgrade distro's
[15:35] <^zenyhooubby-it> and live-usb doesn't works
[15:35] <Dr_Willis__> domedagen:  i basically went to amazon, looked for them.. then serached the comments for how well linux support was. got a cheap $8 one  from some no name company that works. :)
[15:35] <Dr_Willis__> domedagen:  but its totally plug in and it works.
[15:36] <Dr_Willis__> domedagen:  but it could have better features. but for $8 i dont mine.
[15:36] <compdoc> domedagen, I would start with a major brand as listed on that page, and then search for user problems or sucesses at using the device
[15:36] <domedagen> compdoc: Problem with that is that it is outdated and that there is no easy way to know if it works
[15:37] <compdoc> and your particualr version of ubuntu
[15:37] <^zenyhooubby-it> so, I can't update directly, can I update from 10.10 (not yet supported) to 11.04?
[15:38] <domedagen> ^zenyhooubby-it: Yes you can
[15:38] <domedagen> ^zenyhooubby-it: Just press upgrade now and dont press upgrade while on 11.04
[15:38] <^zenyhooubby-it> ok theenkyuu veery much! :)
[15:39] <^zenyhooubby-it> upgrade now?
[15:39] <fr-z> escott or cvr any of you know a way so i can access the .private folder to delete data. I dont understand from where i have so mutch space used when i only have like 5 GB of files downloaded (and the private hs already 70 GB)
[15:39] <domedagen> ^zenyhooubby-it: In update manager
[15:40] <escott> fr-z, you access your .private through the fuse loop mount
[15:41] <^zenyhooubby-it> ok
[15:41] <alFReD-NSH> I made a new clean install today, it boot up nicely. Installed some updates and when restarted it hang on the boot screen showing ubuntu and the 5 dots
[15:42] <alFReD-NSH> I reinstalled again and same thing happened
[15:42] <Womkes> When I SSH from my Ubuntu dekstop to on of my Ubuntu servers the SSH connection seems to hang after only a couple of minutes. It is not disconnected but I cant enter any commands
[15:42] <Womkes> any idea why this is?
[15:42] <Womkes> and how I can solve it?
[15:42] <compdoc> domedagen, another resource is newegg.com. Search the reviews for each device that looks interesting for the word 'ubuntu'
[15:42] <escott> alFReD-NSH, hit the up arrow key. what does it say
[15:43] <zally666> so how does a worm fix a tvtuner o_0
[15:44] <zally666> bah gonne play some psx
[15:44] <fr-z> escott you know how can i access fuse loop mount_ is that an app_
[15:47] <asus1025c> i have an Asus EEEPC 1025C netbook (Atom N2800, Intel GMA3650 graphics) and updating the kernel to 3.4  i managed to get 1024x600  and was able to watch 480p and 720p videos on my netbook's 10 inch screen. I also wanted to use my netbook' s HDMI port and that is where things went downhill
[15:47] <escott> fr-z, don't touch .private. don't do anything to it
[15:47] <escott> fr-z, it is your real $HOME. you start messing with it and $HOME you can say goodbye to all your files
[15:49] <asus1025c> i followed the instructions found on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1953734&page=10    (post #94) , rebooted and now X does not start anymore, i tried startx from the console but it exits with error "Fatal server error: no screens found"  Can anyone help me?
[15:53] <asus1025c> http://pastebin.com/H0bca958
[15:53] <ace_me> I try to secure my tmp folder but when I try to format my newly partition with mkfs.ext3 -j /var/tmpMnt I get bash: mkfs.ext3: command not found
[15:54] <systest> anyone else have a problem with dnsmasq ignoring search domains set by DHCP?
[15:55] <asus1025c> http://pastebin.com/SE63518p
[15:55] <fr-z> escott if its my home how can .private occupy 70 gb when my all honw, without .private, has 30 gb)
[15:55] <fr-z> _
[15:56] <ace_me> ls /sbin/mkfs* is not showing that .ext3
[15:56] <joel135> asus1025c: revert to your old xorg.conf. then make the changes to the file one at a time until the error occurs again
[15:58] <asus1025c> i did not have an xorg.conf when i started so i can not revert to it
[15:58] <kenbo11> hi all
[15:59] <kenbo11> I was just running an update and it seems to have stalled at "Installing new version of config file /etc/init/zramswap.conf ...
[15:59] <kenbo11> "
[15:59] <kenbo11> will I do much damage if I quit it
[15:59] <joel135> asus1025c: mv your xorg.conf to xorg.conf.notworking or something. then, as root, run "X -configure" to get a fresh one
[16:00] <drecute> what is the inode numer used for ext4 journal?
[16:00] <drecute> *number
[16:01] <Jonii> Bwah, Ubuntu has some serious issues with keeping windows and their icons visible
[16:03] <joel135> asus1025c: if I recall correctly, "X -configure" will create new xorg.conf in $HOME, so you'll need to move that one, too
[16:03] <escott> fr-z, the overhead of encryption should not be that large. its possible that something has gone wrong, but removing files from .private is the wrong way to deal with it
[16:04] <fr-z> escott is that important to have the encryptation active on the OS_
[16:05] <kenbo11> I was just running an update and it seems to have stalled at "Installing new version of config file /etc/init/zramswap.conf ...
[16:05] <escott> fr-z, you choose to enable encryption. thats your decision to make
[16:07] <fr-z> ok escott tahnk you m8 >(
[16:07] <altin> anyone knows where can I find graphic card drivers for ATI
[16:07] <m8> fr-z, :)
[16:07] <escott> fr-z, it would also be helpful if you could post the output of du -h -d 2 $HOME
[16:07] <altin> I have a thinkpad t60 with ati radeon x1400
[16:07] <altin> additional drivers cant find any driver
[16:07] <altin> and I also searched google but not that successful
[16:08] <escott> fr-z, rather -d 1
[16:11] <Sidewinder1> How/where to 'enable' the Ubuntu OS log-on sound that I've come to know and love {in all of the previous versions} in 12.04? I get the 'beat of the bongos', which prompts for password but after that, when log-on occurs, no log-on flourish sound.. TIA.
[16:11] <the_misfit> Hi. I just installed 12.04 fresh install for the first time. fglrx has given me problems but nothing too serious -- just error messages -- since Maverick. I'm going to stop being lazy and hitting 'cancel' and learn what these things mean
[16:11] <the_misfit> i get a 'system has recovered from an error' i hit cancel and things are ok
[16:12] <asus1025c> running  X -configure  got my netbook back to a working X environment. THANK YOU!  But my hdmi issue remains unsolved
[16:12] <escott> Sidewinder1, i think it might still be there, but the volume was changed from ear splitting to reasonable
[16:13] <asus1025c> joel135: thank you. see my previous post. got a working X. Any ideas about getting hdmi working on my netbook?
[16:13] <Sidewinder1> escott, Thanx for the response; no, volume isn't the issue, at least I don't think so. Any other suggestions I might try?
[16:14] <escott> Sidewinder1, http://maketecheasier.com/disable-login-sound-in-ubuntu-oneiric-quick-tips/2011/09/15
[16:14] <Sidewinder1> escott, Thanks, I'll look.
[16:14]  * Sidewinder1 Looks
[16:14] <fr-z> escott its still listing lol
[16:16] <escott> fr-z, the best output would be "du -h -d 1 $HOME | sort -h
[16:17] <alFReD-NSH> Ok, I'm Back. So I've made a clean install today. And after it boot up normally. Got the updates and restarted again, it hangs on the boot screen http://db.tt/r8ckaXj6
[16:18] <kenbo11> altin  http://www.bestithelp.co.uk/info/ati-mobility-radeon-x1400-on-linux/
[16:18] <fr-z> escott does not acept the -d
[16:19] <joel135> asus1025c: could you run "sudo lshw > $HOME/lshw.txt" and upload the newly created lshw.txt in your home folder? it contains information about your hardware
[16:19] <escott> fr-z, du (GNU coreutils) 8.13 does
[16:19] <alFReD-NSH> Also this happens before it http://db.tt/XCACHyN0
[16:20] <fr-z> escott frz@fr-z:~$ sudo du -d 1 $HOME | sort -h
[16:20] <fr-z> du: invalid option -- 'd'
[16:20] <fr-z> Try `du --help' for more information.
[16:20] <escott> fr-z, why are you running with sudo?
[16:21] <fr-z> without it gives the same error
[16:21] <escott> alFReD-NSH, i doubt the intel error is related. its probably some kind of driver bug
[16:22] <escott> fr-z, what is du --version
[16:22] <dangbarry> man du and there is no d flag are you looking for -D
[16:22] <alFReD-NSH> It was working correctly the week before...
[16:23] <alFReD-NSH> The reninstall made the problem, escott
[16:23] <fr-z> escott 8.5
[16:24] <escott> dangbarry, fr-z "man du | grep -- -d"    -d, --max-depth=N
[16:24] <zolom> Hi all, On Natty, I'm getting "mountall: mount /boot [1144] terminated with status 32" in /var/boot.log ; don't see anything regarding /boot (or sde2) in dmesg. Mounts fine in recovery/after boot-up. /boot is ext2 part on /dev/sde2. Any direction on how to tackle this? Ty
[16:25] <sp4d3r> hi
[16:25] <escott> fr-z, you could try --max-depth=1 instead of -d 1 if thats a new option
[16:25] <dangbarry> then use --max-depth that what its finding
[16:25] <dangbarry> -d in max depth
[16:26] <kenbo11> I was just running an update and it seems to have stalled at "Installing new version of config file /etc/init/zramswap.conf ...
[16:26] <kenbo11> there's nothing asking for input
[16:27] <kenbo11> how do i kill it and restart it
[16:27] <escott> fr-z, and if a program gives you an error about a command line argument you shouldn't just be throwing a sudo in front of it. thats like getting warned at a gas station not to smoke and saying, in that case ill just shove the cigarette into the tank
[16:28] <joel135> alFReD-NSH: to debug, boot from cd/dvd/usb, issue "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt", check the files in /mnt/var/log, especially dmesg
[16:28] <saurabh> sudo rm -r /
[16:29] <alFReD-NSH> Joel Ok thanks
[16:29] <fr-z> escott :P
[16:29] <dangbarry> do not type that saurabh what the f**k?
[16:29] <fr-z> 937360	/home/frz/.wine
[16:29] <fr-z> 1013908	/home/frz/Dropbox
[16:29] <fr-z> 4496784	/home/frz/.local
[16:29] <fr-z> 5190524	/home/frz/vmware
[16:29] <fr-z> 8112780	/home/frz/Pessoal
[16:29] <FloodBot1> fr-z: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:29] <joel135> saurabh: careful. someone may try it
[16:30] <saurabh> My bad.
[16:30] <escott> fr-z, can you rerun that as "du -h --max-depth=1 $HOME | sort -h" its easier to read that way
[16:32] <escott> !paste | fr-z
[16:33] <escott> !pm | fr-z
[16:33] <Dr_Willis__> gotta love pm floods eh? ;)
[16:34] <escott> fr-z, since you are spamming me i've had to ignore you
[16:35] <fr-z> escott i was not spaming i was sending the result of the command on pm once i was being blocked when sending to the channel
[16:35] <escott> fr-z, ill unignore you in a few minutes when this nonsense stops
[16:36] <alankila> hey, what's happened to oprofile? did it get superceded by something?
[16:36] <alankila> the ubuntu oprofile package is marked as deleted.
[16:37] <saurabh> Will marlin file manager be available in future?
[16:37] <escott> fr-z, put that output into paste.ubuntu.com and then send us the resulting link
[16:38] <saurabh> I googled and rtfm about marlin
[16:38] <fr-z> escott http://paste.ubuntu.com/1034044/
[16:38] <Dr_Willis__> marlin is part of the elementry os/desktop project. i doubt if it will be in the official repos any time soon
[16:39] <Dr_Willis__> i think it was elementry os..
[16:39] <escott> fr-z, you have about 32gigs of mail in there
[16:40] <Dr_Willis__> 32gb of spam. ;)
[16:40] <naryfa> Does anybody know if there's a way of moving items on gnome-shell panel in Ubuntu?
[16:40] <saurabh> Dr_Willis__: thanks
[16:40] <fr-z> escott yes
[16:42] <hero1900> any way to solve the 401 error when installing y HIB purcahses i even dwnloaded the debs manually and its not working
[16:45] <Mavrik> hey... which package/module handles brightness setting on laptops?
[16:45] <Mavrik> (on 12.04)
[16:46] <moi_> Hi all. I'm trying to get connect to a WPA2 Enterprise connection. I have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with XFCE4, and I'm using wicd as my network manager.
[16:46] <moi_> Here are the instructions they give: http://prowiki.isc.upenn.edu/wiki/Configuring_Ubuntu_For_AirPennNet
[16:46] <moi_> I'm not sure how relevant this is, but they also give: http://www.seas.upenn.edu/cets/answers/airpennnet-linux.html
[16:48] <esing> hi
[16:49] <joel135> hi
[16:49] <Pierreb> when i view flash content in mozilla sometimes people end up being blue
[16:49] <esing> ah cvr is sleeping already
[16:49] <Pierreb> anyone know how to solve that?
[16:49] <esing> i fixed my unity problem and found the issue :)
[16:50] <esing> pierreb maybe turn of graficcard accelerator (right click on the video )
[16:50] <esing> (not sure if it's helping though, just a guess)
[16:51] <jarray52> I'm trying to get my Radeon 6400M graphics card working. My laptop, however, has two graphics cards. I'm currently using a kernel with switcheroo. Any suggestions?
[16:51] <hero1900> okey whatever thx for not helping USC sucks s much
[16:51] <Pierreb> esing: going to check that
[16:53] <esing> test
[16:54] <esing> test
[16:54] <altin> how can I change the toolbar menu and window color of Adwaita theme ??
 im using gnome 3
 on ubuntu
[16:55] <altin>  and is there any way I can install ati x1400 graphic driver for Thinkpad T60
[16:56] <altin> additional drivers didnt find any driver
[16:59] <LittleBallOfHate> altin: different theme is all you can do
[16:59] <LittleBallOfHate> altin: AMD card?
[16:59] <altin> LittleBallOfHate, yes
[17:00] <altin> in fact I have intel centrino processor
[17:00] <Chuck_Norris> altin: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_radeon_2012old
[17:00] <Chuck_Norris> its says: "This testing is quite simple: with a Lenovo ThinkPad T60 that bears a Mobility Radeon X1400 and on the CPU side an Intel Core Duo"
[17:01] <altin> thanks Chuck_Norris
[17:01] <Arrgon> signal check
[17:01] <ace_me> mount -o loop,rw,nosuid,noexec /dev/tmpMnt /tmp
[17:02] <ace_me> it gives me mount: no permission to look at /dev/loop<N>
[17:02] <Chuck_Norris> altin: the title says: "Open-Source R500 Driver Can Compete With Legacy Catalyst" but idk how to install R500 driver =P
[17:02] <escott> ace_me, why would you do that?
[17:02] <LittleBallOfHate> ace_me: sudo
[17:02] <ace_me>  am root
[17:02] <ace_me> but seen that the loop files in the dev are root disk
[17:02] <escott> ace_me, or at least, what is the loop all about
[17:03] <thiebaude> what should i do, lightdm is asking for my sudo password?
[17:03] <ace_me> I try to secure the tmp folder
[17:03] <ace_me> http://www.itsolutionskb.com/2008/10/securing-tmp-vartmp-devshm-partitions/
[17:03] <ace_me> these were not on a partition first so I was advised by csf firewall to secure it and after googling
[17:05] <escott> ace_me, putting the image file in /dev is not appropriate devpts should be managing /dev. you should put it elsewhere like /var
[17:05] <sdfsd> Guys
[17:05] <sdfsd> Where can I get lubuntu-restricted extras?
[17:06] <escott> ace_me, also if the only point in doing this is to get noexec nosuid why not just add that to your fstab when mounting /run and the like?
[17:12] <Gaming4JC> Hey guys, I accidently deleted an .conf/(xml) file I was working on. Anyway I can recover it? I read about scalpel but there doesn't seem to be an option for xml :|
[17:13] <Gaming4JC> application/xml; charset=us-ascii is the filetype...
[17:13] <escott> Gaming4JC, does your text editor not keep a backup
[17:13] <ace_me> escott under /var is the same ! finally I get same mount: no permission to look at /dev/loop<N>
[17:13] <Gaming4JC> escott: no because I Shift+Deleted the whole folder, and thought I had already backed it up on CD... my bad. :P
[17:14] <escott> ace_me, i would just say that not everything you read on the internet is true or a good idea (I know its really confusing!!!) and would suggest you not do what this guy is suggesting
[17:14] <escott> ace_me, if you want noexec,nosuid just add that to your fstab
[17:14] <ace_me> ok escott
[17:15] <escott> ace_me, /run should not have a backing store. /tmp is a more difficult case as some browsers like to save big media files they download for in browser playback to /tmp
[17:15]  * Gaming4JC continues to google about magic numbers and scalpel in attempt to find xml :O
[17:16] <escott> ace_me, and /var/run -> /run
[17:16] <escott> !undelete | Gaming4JC
[17:17] <ion__> I tryed to install property drivers but I couldn't
[17:17] <ion__> http://pastebin.com/bi6GMHPY
[17:18] <ion__> was an ATI/AMD FGLRX graphics driver...
[17:18] <jeffmjack> hello, anybody know how to add multiple directories to the path in .profile?
[17:18] <cogLurkin> How do I configure games to use my Graphics Card?
[17:19] <ion__> how do I solve this problem...?
[17:19] <jeffmjack> I'm seeing and if/then that sets the path to $HOME/bin
[17:19] <n1c0-nuX> Hello, someone can help me to replace grub-pc by grub-efi on my bootable linux USB key
[17:19] <n1c0-nuX> ?
[17:19] <jeffmjack> which is good, but I also want to add another directory
[17:19] <escott> jeffmjack, you just add it with another export command
[17:19] <ion__> so what do I have to do then...?
[17:20] <jeffmjack> so it goes outside that if/then?
[17:20] <melonade> jeffmjack: export PATH=$PATH:<your additions seperated with colons>:
[17:20] <escott> jeffmjack, unless you want to test for the existence of the folder (which is what that if does)
[17:20] <jeffmjack> right okay- i don't need to test for the folder
[17:21] <jeffmjack> so, comment out the if/then and add the export?
[17:21] <jeffmjack> and this goes in .profile, not .bashrc, right?
[17:21] <ion__> ?
[17:22] <hanscom> I am using LinuxMint I stopped using Ubuntu 12.04LTS because of Unity
[17:22] <schiOS> Hello : )
[17:23] <escott> jeffmjack, depends on the behavior you want. login vs non-login shell
[17:23] <escott> !mint | hanscom
[17:23] <Orpheon> if I type a command into the terminal, where does the computer search for it?
[17:23] <Orpheon> I'm trying to find a dll of a lmms plugin
[17:24] <Orpheon> installed via repo
[17:24] <Fuchs> Orpheon: $PATH  if I got your question correctly
[17:24] <Fuchs> Orpheon: maybe you are intersted in locate (sudo updatedb first) or find
[17:24] <jarray52> I'm trying to get my ATI Radeon 6400M graphics card working on my laptop. I'm wondering if it is even possible. lsmod shows the radeon driver active, but I have extremely low resolution. Any suggestions?
[17:24] <Fuchs> Orpheon: packages.ubuntu.com also allows to search via filename
[17:24] <Orpheon> Fuchs, ok
[17:25] <wilhart> where do i see my motherboard vendor name
[17:25] <wilhart> what motherboard this uses
[17:25] <Orpheon> Fuchs, no, locate is not what I mean. When I install lmms via ubuntu repository, it gets downloaded somewhere. I want to know that somewhere.
[17:25] <jeffmjack> melonade, escott: thanks for the help :)_
[17:26] <Fuchs> Orpheon: ah, these are package repos
[17:26] <Orpheon> It has to be some standarized spot
[17:26] <sdfsd> What's the name of the Nvidia HW acceleration package?
[17:26] <Fuchs> Orpheon: /etc/apt/sources.list  or the files in the directory of a similar name
[17:27] <LjL> Orpheon: the .deb packages get downloaded into /var/cache/apt/archives. if you instead want to see where the *files* are, "dpkg -L packagename"
[17:27] <Orpheon> ok
[17:27] <ishanaba> lk
[17:28] <Orpheon> LjL, Thank you, that was what I needed
[17:28] <AndChat-505161> Can some one tmme if i try wine for windows tool will that be that good in ubuntu
[17:28] <d21anthony> Just upgraded to 12.04 can't log in through lightdm (GUI)  login screen. Had similar problem with 11.10 but was able to do a unity --reset. Now when I try to do a unity reset it spits out an error. Any ideas would be awesome
[17:29] <ishanaba> AndChat: what is the tool it depends
[17:32] <D[4]ni> the ubuntu archive manager can unpack some windows installer packages ending in .exe - how would i do that from a terminal?
[17:32] <D[4]ni> plain unzip did _not_ work.
[17:33] <escott> D[4]ni, i think you would have to find the beginning of the zip archive which is in the middle of that exe
[17:33] <d21anthony> Just upgraded to 12.04 can't log in through lightdm (GUI)  login screen. Had similar problem with 11.10 but was able to do a unity --reset. Now when I try to do a unity reset it spits out an error. Any ideas would be awesome
[17:33] <escott> D[4]ni, basically those executables come with their own version of unzip hardcoded to unzip the tail of the file
[17:33] <schiOS> I need all users command block except root example user can use cat /etc/passwd system send message No permissions ? this is possible ?
[17:34] <schiOS> I have bad english : )
[17:34] <escott> D[4]ni, its a bit like having cat <EOF | unzip followed by a big binary blob in a shell script
[17:34] <escott> schiOS, no thats what /etc/shadow is for
[17:35] <D[4]ni> uhm, doesn't sound very funny
[17:35] <D[4]ni> to be more precise, it's a nullsoft installer package
[17:35] <escott> schiOS, http://www.unix.com/aix/123704-etc-passwd.html
[17:35] <D[4]ni> also, not sure if that's really some zip format
[17:36] <schiOS> I give example /etc/passwd I need command block :O
[17:36] <dane> привет всем
[17:36] <dane> Есть руко говорящие?
[17:37] <dane> говорит кто на руском?
[17:37] <DJones> !ru | dane
  windows installer packages ending in .exe   <<<<<<<<  run it in windows and while its open copy the files from the temp folder.....
[17:37] <Yankees52> I hate unity
[17:38] <Yankees52> is there a way to get ubuntu back to like ubuntu 7.10?
[17:38] <Gaming4JC> +1... Use Gnome 3 Classic.
[17:38] <D[4]ni> PlowRox: nah, i'm already able to extract the files via gui (archive manager can do it) - but i need to do it in a shell script
[17:38] <PlowRox> i use the gnome fallback mode  u choose it in logon
[17:38] <d21anthony> here is the unity --reset error i get -  please check it out and tell me what you think http://pastebin.com/br2dSwb5
[17:38] <__Alex_> Hey dudes! Does anyone know how can i record my screen, and also capture my audio output?
[17:39] <esing1> which is the standard file manager of unity ?
[17:39] <escott> D[4]ni, fileroller must be using some other tool. its really a matter of determining what tool. what does "file" say that the file is
[17:39] <__Alex_> esing1: Nautius iirc
[17:39] <esing1> thx
[17:39] <D[4]ni> escott: PE32 executable (GUI) Intel 80386, for MS Windows, Nullsoft Installer self-extracting archive
[17:39] <Gaming4JC> D[4]ni: maybe cabextract
[17:39] <Gaming4JC> !package cabextract
[17:39] <Gaming4JC> meh..
[17:39] <djdan2k8> Hi i am looking for some help with my ubuntu vps server
[17:39] <D[4]ni> Gaming4JC: no valid cabinets found
[17:39] <D[4]ni> All done, errors in processing 1 file(s)
[17:40] <DJones> !screencast | __Alex_ Could be something here that may help you recording your screen, not sure about capturing audio as well though
[17:40] <escott> D[4]ni, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/applications/144916-solved-unzip-exe-files.html
[17:40] <tshauck> what would be the point of putting my machine / user name in a prompt if as soon as I ssh into another machine my prompt goes away
[17:40] <Gaming4JC> D[4]ni: Nullsoft is probably going to be a pain, but who knows. :P
[17:40] <auronandace> !info cabextract | Gaming4JC
[17:40] <Gaming4JC> auronandace: ty :)
[17:41] <D[4]ni> escott: is not RAR archive
[17:41] <D[4]ni> No files to extract
[17:41] <djdan2k8> could anyone help i need to downgrade on php version on a fresh install of plesk 10 on my ubuntu vps id be very great full thank you
[17:43] <Gaming4JC> D[4]ni: http://www.totalcmd.net/plugring/gaup.html (InnoSetup mentioned, dunno about NullSoft)
[17:43] <escott> tshauck, change our PS1 on the other machine then
[17:43] <Ansikt> On Ubuntu server, how to I attach to a wireless network?
[17:43] <D[4]ni> Gaming4JC, escott: p7zip seems to do the job
[17:44] <Tenoch> Have any of you guys tried absenthe 2.0, it is to brake jail iphone, ipad etc?
[17:44] <Gaming4JC> D[4]ni: neat, I thought it only opened lzma.
[17:44] <D[4]ni> who knows, perhaps nullsoft uses lzma
[17:47] <wo33lock> ok
[17:50] <iceroot> Tenoch: ##apple
[17:50] <Tenoch> ok
[17:50] <iceroot> Tenoch: and dont buy products which needs something like that first until they are usable
[17:51] <root____3> I need help with Backtrack r2 KDE, Im having an issue,
[17:51] <root____3>                    whenever i open a program of any kind it  may freeze
[17:51] <iceroot> !backtrack | root____3
[17:51] <DJones> !backtrack | root____3
[17:51] <root____3> ty
[17:51] <root____3> uhhh #backtrack-linux doesnt exist
[17:51] <iceroot> !rootirc | root____3
[17:52] <iceroot> !alis | root____3
[17:52] <djdan2k8> could anyone here give me advice on downgrading php or point me to a channel that cn
[17:52] <ikonia> root____3: #backtrack-linux does exist
[17:52] <iceroot> djdan2k8: downgrade is not supported
[17:52] <djdan2k8> so it cant be done
[17:53] <ikonia> djdan2k8: how did you install php ?
[17:53] <root____3> why wont it let me go there?
[17:53] <root____3>  /join #backtrack-linux
[17:53] <root____3> doesnt work
[17:53] <ikonia> root____3: because you are using the account root
[17:53] <djdan2k8> ikonia it was installed with plesk panel
[17:53] <ikonia> root____3: all the info is listed on their website, or ask in #freenode for help
[17:53] <__Alex_> djdan2k8: It can be done, it's just not allowed. I know how to do it though, it's simple
[17:53] <ikonia> djdan2k8: on a hosting provider machine ?
[17:53] <djdan2k8> yes ikonia
[17:54] <iceroot> djdan2k8: dont downgrade php on such a machine!!!
[17:54] <ikonia> djdan2k8: ok, hosting providers can do things very different from the norm, more so as machines are often shared.
[17:54] <iceroot> djdan2k8: only!! use the version from the repos
[17:54] <ikonia> djdan2k8: I'd suggest contacting your hosting provider if you want any changes done to the machine
[17:54] <RBV> Why would you want an older, less secure version of -php-
[17:55] <ikonia> RBV: some applications have functions that have changed in newer versions of php, and therefore don't work
[17:55] <wilx> ikonia: Upgrade applications as well?
[17:56] <RBV> Sounds like if the application isn't supported in the current version of PHP you have other issues
[17:56] <ikonia> wilx: sorry what ?
[17:56] <ikonia> RBV: that's not true, but if you think that, then that's your business and you need to pick applications you are confortable with
[17:56] <djdan2k8> the reason for it is a joomla extension i need dosnt work on 5.3
[17:57] <ikonia> djdan2k8: contacting your hosting provider would be step one, contacting the joomla guys for help getting it to work with 5.3 would be another option
[17:57] <deostroll> Hi I am having a compiz problem...it kind of has disabled the unity desktop's application launcher
[17:57] <deostroll> How do I get it back
[17:58] <deostroll> even alt-tab isn't working now
[17:58] <RBV> oh god joomla
[17:58] <djdan2k8> i will try that thank you
[18:01] <Dice-Man> hi
[18:01] <Dice-Man> i wonder if usb 3.0 is compatible with 2.0
[18:02] <RBV> Sure it's backwards-compatible
[18:03] <dehibernate> only on regular USB though
[18:03] <Avrem> does the default ubuntu mysql distro install with a database "test"?
[18:03] <iceroot> ##hardware
[18:03] <iceroot> Avrem: no
[18:03] <dehibernate> Micro USB 3.0 has a different connector
[18:05] <RBV> Avrem: log in and do 'show databases;'
[18:05] <notwist> does anyone know of a good guide/article about what to do with your ubuntu server? I just installed mine, got SSH up and running and everything but I'm not really sure what to do with it :)
[18:05] <dsdad> hi
[18:05] <Avrem> RBV, I did. I did a show database and see a db called "test" created. Not sure where it came from -- which makes me slightly paranoid
[18:06] <RBV> Avrem: are there any users that look out of the ordinary?
[18:10] <RBV> What's in the database?
[18:11] <NateTut> Is anyone available to help me with a e-mail setup question?
[18:12] <RBV> NateTut: Just ask
[18:13] <NateTut> OK, I would like to setup mail on Ubuntu to use my Yahoo SMTP address for sending, specifically I need to e-mail from scripts using Yahoo
[18:13] <sdfsd> I am trying to compile something: Unable to locate package polkit-gobject-1
[18:13] <sdfsd> who can help me?
[18:15] <RBV> Nate: what have you tried so far?
[18:16] <sdfsd> where can I get polkit?
[18:16] <NateTut> I have searched & searched to no avail. I have gone through the tutorial on the Ubuntu site, but it does not apply to my situation. I can setup a client like Thunderbird no problem, but I need to e-mail from the command line/scripts
[18:17] <RBV> Did you get the server names, port names and everything from Yahoo?
[18:17] <Gaming4JC> sdfsd:  http://pkgs.org/search/?keyword=polkit-gobject-1
[18:17] <jkl7> I plugged a usb wifi doggle to my pc, I am able to connect to the access point through the GUI, I wonder the command to the access point on the terminal?
[18:18] <NateTut> Yeah, I've got all that stuff, I can setup a client fine, I want the OS to use it too.
[18:18] <RBV> NateTut: Do you know are you using sendmail or what?
[18:18] <NateTut> I have tried sendmail and another alternative who's name escapes me.
[18:19] <RBV> postfix?
[18:19] <NateTut> Yes, that's it, postfix.
[18:19] <sdfsd> Gaming4JC: Thanks, that was already installed, but I've found a -dev version and now my thing works!!! Ty
[18:19] <Guest91364> teenagemutantninjaturtle
[18:19] <Gaming4JC> np :)
[18:20] <RBV> NateTut: well, you just need to edit the configuration file to use the settings from Yahoo. Then do a test email message, and if it doesn't work look at the logs to see why
[18:20] <NateTut> which config files? Is this for sendmail?
[18:20] <RBV> NateTut: for either one
[18:21] <RBV> This is for gmail but you should be to alter for yahoo http://drewdahl.com/2010/02/18/setup-sendmail-to-use-gmails-smtp-server/
[18:21] <NateTut> Thanks, I'm sure I can adapt it.
[18:22] <Gaming4JC> NateTut: If using a non-paid for Yahoo account Good luck with anything from Yahoo Mail. I tried Freepops and it failed epically.
[18:22] <sdfsd> Hmm
[18:22] <Womkes> When I SSH from my Ubuntu desktop to one of my Ubuntu servers the SSH connection seems to die just after a few minutes. It's not disconnected e.g. that it turns back to the terminal @ my desktop but it is unresponsive, cannot enter any commands. Why does this happen and how can I fix it.
[18:22] <sdfsd> guys, how do I uninstall a program installed from source code using GIT?
[18:22] <RBV> Womkes: adjust timeouts on the server?
[18:22] <RBV> sdfsd: make uninstall
[18:22] <NateTut> I have a paid Yahoo acct.
[18:23] <brandonj> sdfsd: sometimes you can run 'make uninstall' from the source directory
[18:23] <sdfsd> Thanks guys
[18:23] <Gaming4JC> NateTut: should work then. :)
[18:25] <jkl7> I plugged a usb wifi doggle to my pc, I am able to connect to the access point through the GUI, I wonder the command to the access point on the terminal?
[18:25] <escott> sdfsd, next time use checkinstall
[18:25] <sdfsd> escott: what's that?
[18:26] <escott> !checkinstall | sdfsd
[18:26] <RBV> jkl7: http://www.linuxcommand.org/man_pages/iwconfig8.html
[18:26] <sdfsd> thanks
[18:26] <sdfsd> anyways, how can I see the version of a package installed from source? dpkg -s does not work on it
[18:27] <escott> sdfsd, if you installed by hand using ./configure; make; make install then dpkg doesnt know about it
[18:27] <hashset_> new ubuntu/linux user..  having trouble getting Eclipse Indigo to run at all after extraction
[18:27] <sdfsd> so, yeah
[18:27] <sdfsd> that's what I did
[18:27] <RBV> sdfsd: go back to the directory the source is in. You are learning why package management tools exist
[18:27] <brandonj> sdfsd: the easiest way is usually to run the program on the terminal with the --version flag
[18:28] <brandonj> sdfsd: but it's different with each package, that's why package management is usually good, it adds some standardization
[18:29] <Womkes> Is it a server side problem then RBV, or client side ?
[18:30] <anthony__> testing, testing, 123
[18:30] <RBV> Womkes: what is ServerAliveInterval set at on your machine (in ssh_config)
[18:31] <otibom_> Can I make right super (only, not left) to behave like ctrl simply ? i.e. without complicated editing of keymaps ?
[18:31] <Gaming4JC> anthony__: Mary had a little lamb her fleece was white as snow... yep test worked. Welcome to IRC. ;)
[18:32] <anthony__> cool!
[18:33] <escott> otibom_, the gnome keyboard preferences has lots of predefined mappings
[18:34] <Nonentity> .
[18:34] <otibom_> escott, yes I've investigated that already. It seems you can't treat both super keys differently.
[18:35] <Womkes> RBV, it is not configured
[18:35] <Womkes> I should set it to 60 sec or so ?
[18:36] <RBV> Sure, that will send a keepalive every 60 seconds' so that you don't get disconnected
[18:38] <Womkes> ok thanks
[18:38] <Womkes> I can so the same server side right?
[18:39] <Womkes> with ClientAlive
[18:39] <Ansikt> Just installed ubuntu server on my computer, but it doesn't want to boot.  I'm in my system via chroot right now.  Any suggestions?
[18:39] <RBV> Womkes: Yea but it's easier to configure 1 client than 50 servers
[18:40] <Ansikt> When i boot, it just hangs at black screen with a blinking cursor.  What could be the issue?
[18:41] <RBV> Ansikt: re install the bootloader
[18:42] <escott> !nomodeset | Ansikt would seem odd for a server but maybe
[18:50] <Womkes> The .ssh directory should be chmodded to 700 right? and the authorized_keys file to 600 ?
[18:50] <LittleBallOfHate> yes
[18:51] <dvs-> Hey. Got a problem. Im running on windows 7 now and i did an ubuntu windowsinstall. This didnt work properly, so i went back into windows and deleted the "ubuntu" folder. I then did a partition install from USB that was sucsessfull. The problem now is that when i boot i can choose between "Windows 7" and "unbuntu". If i choose "ubuntu" it says that some file in /ubuntu/winboot/.. is missing.
[18:51] <dvs-> Anyone know what to do?
[18:51] <dvs-> seems its still trying to boot the "Windowsinstall" instead of the proper one
[18:52] <LittleBallOfHate> never messed with a wubi install
[18:52] <GeeksOnHugs> I downloaded a theme, how do I install it?  this is the theme: http://www.ubuntuthemes.org/blue-joy.html
[18:52] <LittleBallOfHate> you can hit e i think and edit the boot line in grub if you know what partition and such it's on
[18:53] <LittleBallOfHate> GeeksOnHugs: extract to ~/.Themes I think
[18:53] <dvs-> LittleBallOfHate: well, i guess i can find the partition, but where dont know how to change the boot line
[18:54] <LittleBallOfHate> dvs-: think it's esc and then highlight the ubuntu line and hit e
[18:57] <rodrigo> tienes argentinos????
[18:57] <LjL> !ar | rodrigo
[18:59] <GeeksOnHugs> LittleBallOfHate : I did a search for themes and don't see it where should it be?
[19:00] <cypher-neo> When I'm configuring update-alternatives to select my default browser, I see Chromium listed twice. One entry is "Auto mode" and the other entry is "Manual mode"? What's the difference between auto and manual mode?
[19:00] <solid91_> Hi everibody...can someone help me to connect my guitar with qjack and rakarrack? i have some problems
[19:00] <GeeksOnHugs> oh wait, tilde means root right
[19:00] <LittleBallOfHate> GeeksOnHugs: your home dir
[19:00] <LittleBallOfHate> and it's .themes or .Themes I can't remember
[19:01] <GeeksOnHugs> I don't have either in my home directory nor "file system"
[19:01] <LittleBallOfHate> GeeksOnHugs: ls -a in your home
[19:02] <GeeksOnHugs> ok, yep tried that and lots of dot somethings but no dot theme
[19:02] <LittleBallOfHate> GeeksOnHugs: so mkdir .themes
[19:02] <GeeksOnHugs> ok cool
[19:02] <LittleBallOfHate> GeeksOnHugs: then extract the zip into there
[19:02] <GeeksOnHugs> caps or no?
[19:02] <LittleBallOfHate> GeeksOnHugs: might want to google "install gnome theme"
[19:02] <GeeksOnHugs> kk ty
[19:03] <GeeksOnHugs> I have unity, is that the same as gnome?
[19:03] <LittleBallOfHate> GeeksOnHugs: nope
[19:03] <GeeksOnHugs> OK so I need to search for unity themes I guess
[19:03] <LittleBallOfHate> GeeksOnHugs: yup
[19:03] <GeeksOnHugs> kk, thanks
[19:06] <solid91_> someone can help me with qjack?
[19:07] <bluezone> Gnome sucks, unity sucks, and i don't like kde. Any other viable desktop environments? ;D
[19:07] <notwist> bluezone plenty. xfce and lxde come to mind
[19:07] <Zally666> Forget tv tuner
[19:07] <notwist> bluezone they are both available in the forms of xubuntu and lubuntu
[19:08] <bluezone> but i can still install them in the desktop version?
[19:08] <GeeksOnHugs> i found an application myunity that does it all :)
[19:09] <Womkes> When you have a crosslink between two servers on eth1 is it nessacary to specify the network and broadcast parameters in /etc/network/interfaces or simply put in address and netmask and be done with it ?
[19:10] <notwist> bluezone just do sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and you can choose between gnome and xfce at login
[19:10] <notwist> bluezone note that it does take up some space
[19:10] <rgenito> i just updated my kernel from 2.6 to 3.2
[19:10] <rgenito> (ubuntu 11.04)
[19:10] <rgenito> now X is failing to load...
[19:11] <escott> rgenito, what kind of graphics card
[19:11] <rgenito> radeon HD =X
[19:11] <rgenito> when running kernel 2.6, this all worked fine (the graphics card and such)
[19:11] <escott> rgenito, and where did you get the drivers
[19:11] <rgenito> however, i get an error when X starts
[19:12] <rgenito> escott: got the drivers from AMD's site
[19:12] <escott> rgenito, then thats your problem
[19:12] <notwist> rgenito have you tried selecting the old kernel then? isn't it still there in the startup options?
[19:12] <rgenito> escott: what is my problem? the fact that i got the drivers from the vendor's site?
[19:13] <notwist> rgenito probably that the vendor drivers breaks compability with new kernels, and open source drivers usually dont.. or something to that extent
[19:13] <rgenito> notwist: well, i have to use at least kernel 3.0.0-19, or else i have to patch 2.6 to get some usb device features
[19:13] <notwist> rgenito try removing proprietary drivers and reconfiguring x
[19:13] <escott> rgenito, yes. you are supposed to use jockey-gtk, but since you didnt you are responsible for mantaining compatibility
[19:13] <rgenito> notwist: oh? i have no idea how to do those :(
[19:13] <rgenito> btw i'm running this machine headless lol
[19:13] <rgenito> only using bare X because the GPUs require it
[19:14] <notwist> rgenito if reinstalling is an option, that's probably the fastest route. otherwise you need to google how to remove radeon drivers and reconfigure x (which will fall back on default drivers)
[19:15] <Jake7> I'm running 12.04 LTS. Some random time during the session I'll lose the KB shortcuts; Ctrl-Alt-T (terminal) and Alt-F2 (run app). I can't reproduce it. I can't see anything in the logs that stands out. They're there, then they're not. Anyone else seen this?
[19:15] <rgenito> notwist: thanks for the info, i think i'll just install 12.04 from scratch then
[19:15] <rgenito> now, any recommendations for installing 12.04 when i dont have a cdrom drive? :D
[19:16] <smw> rgenito, usb drive
[19:17] <smw> rgenito, although it kills all data on a usb drive, I have found that just doing a dd from the iso to the usb (sdb or whatever) works perfectly
[19:20] <MiJyn> bbl
[19:20] <WillPittenger> I'm trying to add a repository on my local hard drive to Synaptic.  But the Add Source button is disabled.  The command line is as follows >>>> rpmdir /media/sf_WinDocs/My\ Downloaded\ Files/Apache/Open\ Office/ precise main
[19:21] <WillPittenger> I tried putting the path in quotes.  That path is actually on the host's drive.
[19:21] <DexterF> hi
[19:21] <dhaval> HELP, when i try to run any shell script, it opens with a editor, doest not run. How to EXECUTE it?
[19:21] <notwist> rgenito are you on a windows machine right now?
[19:21] <WillPittenger> Hence the "sf_" prefix to the folder.
[19:21]  * robinder is using a BlackBerry Runtime for Android Apps running Android 2.3.3 (2.0.1.30)
[19:21] <notwist> rgenito in that case, download unetbootin to put the iso on a usb, then boot from that
[19:21] <notwist> dhaval try ./scriptfilename
[19:22] <DexterF> moved root partition, updated etc. now how do I tell grub about the new config? grub-mkconfig from a chroot to the root partition generates a proper menu.cfg, but how do I install it?
[19:22] <dhaval> notwist: i dont know ANY linux command
[19:22] <notwist> DexterF maybe http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/update-grub.8.html ?
[19:23] <notwist> dhaval time to learn some then :)
[19:23] <WillPittenger> Is there a channel somewhere specific to Synaptic?
[19:23] <notwist> dhaval cd is for changing folders, ls is for listing folder contents. go to the folder and type ./thefileyouwanttorun
[19:23] <escott> !rpm | WillPittenger
[19:24] <WillPittenger> escott: Synaptic supports RPM.
[19:24] <escott> WillPittenger, and this channel doesnt
[19:24] <moduspwnins> dhaval: you may need to make the file "executable" (Right-click, properties, permissions, "allow executing file as program"
[19:24] <dhaval> notwist: i tried that command, it says permission denied. (I am the administrator.)
[19:24] <DexterF> dhaval, get yourself a copy of O'reilly's excellent "Linux in a nutshell".
[19:25] <notwist> dhaval as mentioned, is it executable?
[19:25] <dhaval> notwist its a tor's bundle
[19:25] <ashka> Hello
[19:25] <species_4981> dhaval - go here and learn; the book is very very good too http://www.linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[19:25] <moduspwnins> hello ashka
[19:25] <ashka> I've been trying to setup a touchscreen on precise lately, and I need the driver which is named hidtouch suite
[19:26] <ashka> but it won't compile, here's the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1034317/
[19:26] <escott> DexterF, update-grub will put the grub files in the correct place. and you should think about transitioning to grub2
[19:27] <jeremiah> Ok, i needs some help. I was being a punk and was messing around with the icons on the left hand side toolbar, and i clicked remove from launcher for my minecraft tab or whatever. how do i bring it back??
[19:27] <DexterF> notwist, ah, ok, thanks.
[19:27] <e64i> Hey, I want to know which grub have ubuntu 11.10, grub or grub2?
[19:28] <notwist> jeremiah just start it, then right click and choose to keep it in the dock
[19:28] <escott> e64i, most have transitioned to grub2 by now
[19:28] <iceroot> e64i: grub2
[19:28] <DexterF> escott, it is grub2. so update-grub then does not apply?
[19:28] <jeremiah> notwist,  on the window? there is no option for that.
[19:29] <trism> ashka: looks like the driver needs patching for recent xorg, IDevPtr was removed, see: http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2010-November/015496.html
[19:29] <KRomo> is it better to shutdown my pc or seit to suspend?
[19:29] <KRomo> desktop
[19:29] <notwist> jeremiah no on the actual icon in the dock to your left. if the program is running, right click that icon and choose to keep it in the dock even after the program is closed
[19:29] <escott> DexterF, update-grub is how it works with grub2 and i believe it is also supposed to work with grub2
[19:29] <escott> DexterF, update-grub is how it works with grub2 and i believe it is also supposed to work with grub1
[19:29] <DexterF> escott, notwist, well, update-grub2 essentially does the same, seems they are linked.
[19:29] <notwist> KRomo suspend only saves power
[19:29] <notwist> KRomo if you want a fast boot then suspend is an option
[19:29] <KRomo> might as well save power i guess
[19:30] <DexterF> what I don't get is why it now won't see my windows partition... I mounted proc and dev as binds before chrooting, should see the partition...
[19:30] <jeremiah> notwist, that is the prob. it no longer appears on the dock. i open it, and it is open, but not on the dock.
[19:30] <notwist> KRomo if its a laptop you should shut it down so it doesnt take any power at all
[19:30] <ashka> trism: oh, okay
[19:30] <ashka> do you have any recent patch for that ?
[19:30] <notwist> jeremiah how do you start minecraft to begin with?
[19:30] <trism> ashka: no, where did you get the source?
[19:30] <ashka> here http://sourceforge.net/projects/hidtouchsuite/
[19:30] <jeremiah> i double click on it.
[19:31] <jeremiah> notwist,  i double click on it
[19:31] <Smilex> if I'm running 64bit ubuntu, how can I get 32 bit packages? I'm specifically looking for libcurl 32 bit
[19:32] <escott> Smilex, apt-get install libcurl:i386
[19:32] <dhaval> what is the noobs channel?
[19:32] <KRomo> i might be looking for a new computer in the next with ubuntu as the os would it be dumb to buy a 27" imac for ubuntu? will everything work? i like the hardware
[19:32] <jrib> dhaval: this channel is for all levels
[19:32] <jeremiah> notwist, it is a jar file set to open with openjdk
[19:32] <jrib> !mac | KRomo
[19:33] <dhaval> jrib when i try to open tor browser, i get permission denied error. i am the administrator
[19:33] <Smilex> escott, thanks
[19:33] <jrib> dhaval: you'll have to ask the channel about that
[19:33] <notwist> jeremiah have you tried just dragging and dropping the jar file to the dock?
[19:33] <Yankees52> is there a way to move the top left buttons of the window to the right side like windows and the old ubuntu?
[19:34] <jeremiah> notwist,  can't. it is a jar file
[19:34] <dhaval> jrib what channel? its a software i wanna run..
[19:34] <jrib> dhaval: this channel is fine if you're on ubuntu...
[19:34] <Yankees52> or is there a way to get the old ubuntu back?
[19:34] <notwist> Yankees52 just choose classic at the login
[19:34] <chu> !nounity
[19:34] <wylde_> !nounity | Yankees52
[19:34] <dvs-> Hey. Anyone here that can help me add a ubuntu partition install to bcdedit in windows 7?
[19:34] <species_4981> dhaval - if you run the Tor application from terminal, you can run it as a super user by typing sudo then the command then enter and type your password
[19:35] <dhaval> thanks
[19:35] <Yankees52> so is unity basically built on top of gnome 3 like cinnamon is?
[19:35] <chu> Yankees52: Yep.
[19:35] <wylde_> Yankees52: unity is a shell, yes
[19:36] <DNFTT> !ops | please hang yourself ,,, UBUNTU will die soon from a virus pandemy please switch to WINDOWS 7 and enjoy safety and stability of the sistem!!!
[19:36] <DJones> DNFTT: Don't troll
[19:36] <escott> Yankees52, not to the same extent. i think cinnamon uses the same WM as does shell, just rescripted.
[19:36] <Yankees52> i really dont know what to use cinnamon or unity, i love cinnamon but it is too buggy, and i hate unity for the fact its to much like the mac
[19:37] <wylde_> Yankees52: there's plenty of other options for a desktop environment.
[19:37] <feed_the_troll> !ops | please hang yourself ,,, UBUNTU will die soon from a virus pandemy please switch to WINDOWS 7 and enjoy safety and stability of the sistem!!!
[19:37] <Yankees52> wylde: yeah i know KDE, XFCE
[19:38] <dangbarry> lol
[19:38] <escott> Yankees52, you can just install gnome-panel
[19:38] <dvs-> My unbuntu did not create a boot-file in bcdedit, does anyone know how to add this manually?
[19:38] <jeremiah> notwist,  take it as you can no longer help
[19:39] <e64i> so my friend is having this error "ERROR: hd0 out of disk" in ubuntu 11.10, what is it?
[19:39] <alrea7> hi
[19:40] <alrea7>  please iwant to reset my network conection is there comand ????????????/
[19:40] <sylflo> hello
[19:40] <dhaval> i cant fucking run a simple software??? ffffffffuuuuuuuuuu
[19:41] <wylde_> !language | dhaval
[19:41] <alrea7> yessssssssssssssssss
[19:41] <ikonia> dhaval: stop with the language please.
[19:41] <dhaval> ikonia please help me
[19:41] <ikonia> dhaval: with what ?
[19:41] <alrea7> knolesge for all
[19:42] <ikonia> dhaval: actually - someone else can help, I'm not going to reward someone for just spewing bad language into the channel.
[19:42] <dhaval> ikonia i want to run tor browser. when i open the script file, it opens in an editor, doesnt execute.
[19:43] <ikonia> dhaval: someone in the channel will get to you when they have time/know the answer
[19:43] <dangbarry> dhaval: whats the extension?
[19:43] <wylde_> sylflo: 'sudo ifdown' then 'sudo ifup' should work.
[19:43] <species_4981> dhaval did you start looking through the website I pointed you towards? You need to set the shell script via CHMOD 755, for example ...
[19:44] <Guest6985> oi
[19:44] <irgendwer4711> hi, somehow my own kernel got installed outside DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST in grub menu
[19:44] <dhaval> dangbarry .py
[19:44] <buh823> Ikonia is a bitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:44] <dhaval> species_4981 dont have time for any tutes.... i got exams tmrw, and have some imp work to do with linux
[19:44] <thinced> dhaval, You probably need just x-flag. Open terminal and "cd /path/to/directory"
[19:45] <thinced> then chmod u+x file.py
[19:45] <dangbarry> yea!
[19:45] <ironhalik> is there a way to direct grub to boot into specific OS on next reboot?
[19:45] <species_4981> dhaval - got it. Good luck then.
[19:45] <eok> didn't know this channel had trolls :)
[19:45] <buh823> Ikonia is a bitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:45] <dangbarry> lol, Trolls are funny!
[19:45] <irgendwer4711> ironhalik: did speak to me?
[19:45] <hashset_> having trouble with wine configuration and Spotify..  can anyone help?
[19:46] <ironhalik> irgendwer4711: if you know the answer, then yes
[19:46] <irgendwer4711> ironhalik: no
[19:46] <ironhalik> :)
[19:46] <ashka> trism: found anything ? I didn't highlight you before, but just in case you missed it : http://sourceforge.net/projects/hidtouchsuite/
[19:47] <wylde_> !wine | hashset_
[19:47] <eok> hashset_ dunno if this is useful to you, but grooveshark.com has a pretty good library of music
[19:47] <dhaval> thinced did the same thing. it just skips to new line. without running the software, without showing error
[19:47] <eok> hashset_ i use it when on ubuntu istead of messing with wine
[19:48] <dangbarry> dhaval run it in a terminal!
[19:48] <eok> hashset_ but thats because im lazy :P
[19:48] <OerHeks> hashset_, there is a spotify client for ubuntu >> http://www.spotify.com/nl/download/previews/
[19:48] <dhaval> dangbarry it says permissions denied
[19:49] <thinced> dhaval, you can ofcourse execute program from command line :). "./file.pyC"
[19:49] <thinced> dhaval, you can ofcourse execute program from command line :). "./file.py"
[19:49] <dangbarry> change the permissions with the chmod u+x first!
[19:50] <dhaval> dangbarry thinced thanks got through it. but why it wont open with simple double click?
[19:50] <eok> dhaval: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[19:51] <dhaval> eok it will open, but in an editor, it wont execute
[19:51] <trism> ashka: didn't find anyone working on it, so even if we get it to compile, it probably won't work right, but I'll see if I can get it to compile
[19:51] <vincenzo> ciao
[19:51] <vincenzo> list|
[19:51] <vincenzo> list|
[19:51] <vincenzo> list!
[19:51] <EDawg878> How do you setup an sftp so a person can remotely acess a folder?
[19:51] <thinced> dhaval, right click the file and then "Open with other application. Specify python there"
[19:51] <DJones> !list > vincenzo
[19:51] <ashka> okay, thanks trism
[19:51] <eok> dhaval, is it executable?
[19:51] <dangbarry> dhaval it will but the terminal will show any errors.!
[19:52] <wylde_> !openssh | EDawg878
[19:53] <Womkes> In the drbd.conf file can you use /dev/srv2/vm1 to point to your LVM volume or do you need to use /dev/mapper/srv2-vm1?
[19:53] <notwist> EDawg878 create a normal user and make sure SSH access is enabled. done :)
[19:53] <dhaval> what is error 126
[19:54] <wylde_> EDawg878: essentially, you have to install openssh-server and forward a port on your router.
[19:54] <hashset_> Thanks OerHecks, I'm new to ubuntu and am not sure what I am supposed to do with those instructions
[19:54] <e64i> so my friend is having this error "ERROR: hd0 out of disk" in ubuntu 11.10, what is it?
[19:54] <armence> Hello all. How can I check if there is an ecryptfs module installed?
[19:54] <eok> dhaval, are you trying to run a python script?
[19:55] <dhaval> eok YES
[19:55] <wylde_> armence: lsmod?
[19:55] <eok> dhaval, have you tried the scipt in the interpreter first?
[19:55] <eok> script*
[19:55] <EDawg878> i know that but how will i be able to limit the sftp to a specific folder?
[19:55] <armence> wuj_, OK, what package is it in if I don't have it installed?
[19:55] <iceroot> EDawg878: chroot
[19:56] <dhaval> eok what is interpreter? the thing i am supposed to is very simple. i just have to execute it. i didnt make it.
[19:56] <escott> EDawg878, http://www.minstrel.org.uk/papers/sftp/
[19:56] <wylde_> dhaval: in your case since the file has a .py extension. Python.
[19:57] <wylde_> !python | dhaval
[19:57] <dhaval> i have installed python
[19:57] <EDawg878> escott, thanks
[19:57] <iceroot> dhaval: without python installed your system would not start :)
[19:57] <wylde_> dhaval: then that is your interpreter.
[19:57] <Seryth> How can I use pastebinit to paste a file from terminal?
[19:57] <iceroot> Seryth: cat file | pastebinit
[19:58] <Seryth> iceroot: thanks.
[19:58] <dhaval> MAN why is linux so.... linux must be created by some women.
[19:58] <iceroot> dhaval: no need for that here
[19:58] <eok> dhaval, what happens when you write python in the terminal?
[19:58] <wylde_> dhaval: no, it just doesn't hide it's inner working from it's users :)
[19:58] <dhaval> it gives error 126
[19:59] <eok> when you just write python?
[19:59] <eok> and hit enter
[19:59] <escott> dhaval, you might as well say "a light is blinking"
[19:59] <dangbarry> lol
[19:59] <eok> dhaval, you might need to install python
[20:00] <guntbert> !details | e64i
[20:00] <dhaval> dafuq i am quitting. i have more important finals starting from tomorrow. i wanted to run tor and then torshammer. eok i have installed python
[20:00] <ccmonster> getting extremely high CPU usage by Java for what seems to be no reason.
[20:00] <ccmonster> any hel
[20:00] <ccmonster> any ideas what could cause it.
[20:01] <eok> dhaval: http://onecore.net/how-topython-programming-under-ubuntu.htm
[20:02] <roasted> When I mount a samba share, aren't I supposed to have items in .gvfs? Beacuse... samba is mounted... .gvfs empty....
[20:02] <prashant171992> hey i m getting Write failed: Connection reset by peer
[20:02] <prashant171992> in ssh
[20:02] <prashant171992> plz help
[20:02] <escott> prashant171992, means that your server is hanging up on your for some reason
[20:02] <prashant171992> so what to do next ??
[20:03] <prashant171992> i have my port 22 open..
[20:03] <escott> prashant171992, is the server yours as well?
[20:03] <wylde_> prashant171992: troubleshoot the server if you have access, or notify the server admin :)
[20:03] <xLRDx> hmm ok so i am trying to give user1 user2 user3 access to user4 with su but without password how can i achieve this
[20:03] <ashka> prashant171992: type sudo service ssh restart on your server
[20:03] <prashant171992> no i m in college
[20:04] <guntbert> !sudo | xLRDx
[20:04] <xLRDx> can i limit sudo to a certain script?
[20:04] <ashka> if the server is not yours, notify the owner of the server that he has a problem with ssh
[20:04] <escott> prashant171992, its not on your end. you might try enabling a keepalive packet, but its not so far as you can tell anything you are doing http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/connection-reset-by-peer-335753/
[20:04] <ashka> !visudo | xLRDx
[20:05] <ashka> well.
[20:05] <wylde_> xLRDx: how about adding user 1,2,3 to user4's usergroup and adjust the group permission on the directory/files.
[20:05] <Dj_FlyBy{MS}> I am trying to remove a package via synaptics and it keeps wanting to remove gnome with it, but I DON'T want gnome removed, just the package
[20:05] <Dj_FlyBy{MS}> how does one do this?
[20:05] <xLRDx> wylde_, i have done that already
[20:05] <escott> xLRDx, yes see man sudoers
[20:05] <xLRDx> user1,2,3 are in his group but it still ask's for user4's password
[20:05] <xLRDx> mk thanks escott
[20:06] <escott> xLRDx, but i would say try and do this throw file permissions if possible. if you can be more specific about what you are doing that is asking for user4's password that would help
[20:07] <wylde_> xLRDx: if the usergroup permissions are right each user would use their own password.
[20:07] <wylde_> xLRDx: errr file permissions
[20:07] <dhaval> There should be NOOBS channel, so that experts dont get annoyed when dummies like me ask questions.
[20:08] <xLRDx> user4 will never be used its just a user to run the script as sort of like the apache2's user
[20:08] <designbybeck_> I do a lot with Photos/Images.. One things I can never figure out is why when you go to upload a photo to any website, you can't see the thumbnail in the dialog box
[20:08] <wylde_> dhaval: #ubuntu-beginners
[20:08] <guntbert> dhaval: there is #ubuntu-beginners, but we don't get annoyed at your questions
[20:08] <escott> xLRDx, but what does the script do
[20:09] <designbybeck_> It is frustrating, why doesn't the, I'm assuming Nautilus dialog box, have the option to show thumbnails, or even simple rename/copy and paste from within that dialog box
[20:09] <xLRDx> it starts up a screen session and then runs minecraft yes i know minecraft
[20:09] <designbybeck_> That is always one thing I missed from my windows days
[20:11] <gmachine_24> Using 11.04, in the past two weeks or so I can no longer connect to my home network using my laptop's wireless card. I've been running Ubuntu 11.04 on this laptop, a Lenovo G550  with a Broadcomm BCM5906M wireless
[20:12] <scar3crow> I need help with kompozer or a bettwr wysisyg editor please
[20:12] <gmachine_24> for a long time. Wired network works ok. Other laptops can connect no problem.
[20:13] <gmachine_24> I have tried wicd and gnome-manager (or whatever it is called). the laptop can 'see' my network but cannot connect. keeps saying the password is incorrect but it is correct
[20:13] <dhaval>  i have installed IDLE. how do i run a python script in there? it wont show IDLE in open-with-other-application option.
[20:14] <gmachine_24> Oh - I've tried different routers as well. Still does not connect.
[20:14] <eok> dhaval, you said earlier that you got an error when typing python in terminal, was that correct?
[20:14] <EDawg878> When typing "apt-get build-dep openssh-server" is there really 73 dependencies for openssh?
[20:15] <eok> dhaval: that should not give an error, but put you in the python interpreter mode
[20:16] <wylde_> EDawg878: uhh why would you be compiling it when it's already in the repos?
[20:16] <EDawg878> so i can patch it
[20:16] <escott> EDawg878, why do you need to patch it
[20:16] <ikonia> EDawg878: why do you need to patch it ?
[20:16] <EDawg878> http://www.zephid.dk/2007/11/20/getting-the-power-of-sftp-chroot-in-debian/
[20:16] <EDawg878> idk i was following that?
[20:17] <EDawg878> Is there a better way?
[20:17] <ikonia> EDawg878: that guide is quite old, have you checked if you need to do that in the current versions ?
[20:17] <wylde_> EDawg878: that is a very old article for one...2007...
[20:17] <EDawg878> yeah i realize
[20:18] <ikonia> EDawg878: have you checked the functionality in the current version ?
[20:18] <escott> EDawg878, http://www.minstrel.org.uk/papers/sftp/ this should work out of the box
[20:18] <EDawg878> i am going to now
[20:18] <ikonia> EDawg878: always check before rushing into major tasks like rebuilding
[20:19] <EDawg878> escott, that guide tell me to patch it..
[20:19] <EDawg878> and it is also old from 2008
[20:19] <trism> ashka: sorry, took a look and it just needs too many changes to get it up to date with the latest xorg, I'm not confident it would work correctly after I patched it (since I don't have a device to test it with)
[20:19] <ashka> just give me te
[20:20] <escott> EDawg878, no it doesn't its just a couple options in the sshd_config file
[20:20] <ashka> the patch file trism
[20:20] <ashka> I'll try it out
[20:20] <ashka> oh misread
[20:21] <gmachine_24> So I'm back. 11.04 cannot connect to wireless network after being able to since however long 11.04 has been out.
[20:21] <EDawg878> escott, am I blind I really because all I can't find that part of the guide
[20:21] <EDawg878> each one leads to a guide about patching
[20:22] <escott> EDawg878, http://www.minstrel.org.uk/papers/sftp/builtin/
[20:23] <EDawg878> oh okay compiling that part is irrelevant i got it
[20:23] <figure002> hello. I had some harddisk failures and now i'm trying to fix those with fsck. I get the following question: "Entry 'videos' in / (2) has deleted/unused inode 466945.  Clear<y>?". Should I answer yes or no?
[20:23] <escott> EDawg878, you dont even need to compile it
[20:23] <urlwolf> on system settings > multimedia > phonon I cannot set up my preferred soundcard, it doesn't show in the list
[20:23] <urlwolf> running kde
[20:23] <EDawg878> escott, yeah i just realized that
[20:23] <escott> EDawg878, you can skip straight to #7
[20:23] <EDawg878> yea
[20:24] <michele_> hi!  how i can install a  .tar.gr or .tar.bz2 file?
[20:24] <EDawg878> by untarring it then reading the readme file
[20:24] <escott> michele_, (1) don't until you have verified the software is not in apt
[20:24] <wylde_> michele_: what is it that you want to install?
[20:25] <escott> michele_, (2) if its not available in apt and you must have it then use a prefix in the configure step and install to /usr/local or /opt and (3) use checkinstall
[20:26] <ashka> hmm so hidtouchsuite is too outdated
[20:26] <ashka> is there a way to have a hiddev device from /dev/usb/ as a mouse pointer ?
[20:27] <figure002> is there a channel for ubuntu-unrelated linux questions?
[20:27] <ashka> #linux probably
[20:27] <wylde_> figure002:  #linux
[20:27] <figure002> ashka: is that not for the kernel?
[20:27] <ashka> just ask your question there
[20:27] <acicula> its ##linux and its not just about the kernel
[20:28] <figure002> ok, thanks, will try there
[20:28] <prashant171992> my clg authorities are blocking requests from port 22 (to block ssh) using cyberoam , is there any way to get past that... ??
[20:29] <EDawg878> In the guide you showed me can i replace ChrootDirectory %h with a directory other than home?
[20:30] <escott> EDawg878, sure
[20:31] <EDawg878> so ChrootDirectory /home/whatever    ?
[20:31] <urlwolf> is skype 2.2 hell on ubuntu?
[20:31] <andygraybeal_> hey guys, this might be a bit off topic - but i need a video editor that is pretty easy to use.  i've been trying to use Openshot all day, the interface is great and I understand it, but it seems to crash a lot!  Is there something better?
[20:32] <escott> EDawg878, yes. keep in mind thats a global configuration but yes
[20:32] <EDawg878> k
[20:32] <escott> andygraybeal_, pitivi perhaps
[20:33] <andygraybeal_> escott, thanks bro, i will give it a try!
[20:34] <escott> urlwolf, its fairly average for closed source programs
[20:35] <EDawg878> Isnt skype in the repo?
[20:35] <ashka> how do I configure a hiddev to be recognized as a touchpad ?
[20:35] <andygraybeal_> escott, i see Kino as an option too.. do youhave any thoughts about any of them?
[20:35] <escott> andygraybeal_, never used any
[20:36] <andygraybeal_> escott, okay cool thans.
[20:36] <andygraybeal_> *thanks
[20:36] <andygraybeal_> is there a linux video editing channel?
[20:36] <escott> !alis | andygraybeal_
[20:37] <urlwolf> escott: what I mean is that it doesn't freaking work
[20:37] <escott> urlwolf, it works
[20:37] <andygraybeal_> thanks escott
[20:37] <urlwolf> it does, but it has a lot of trouble to pick up audio settings from the OS
[20:37] <urlwolf> I have an usb soundcard, no way to get it to see ti
[20:38] <urlwolf> on kde, with phonon + gstreamer at least
[20:38] <djzn> what's the right package for MOUSE SETTINGS in kde
[20:38] <djzn> because it's not in systemsettings anymore
[20:39] <Socracheese> I have three monitors, one of which is flipped upside down, I have two geforce video cards, is there any chance in hell that I will be able to get that to work?
[20:39] <Socracheese> running ubuntu, i mean
[20:40] <in0cula> it is possible to update unity in ubuntu 11.10?
[20:41]  * cogNeato shakes fist D:
[20:41] <escott> Socracheese, assuming you are using nvidia drivers your problems will be that nvidia doesnt support all of xrandr
[20:42] <EDawg878_> Why does unity get a little distorted when switching to tty and back?
[20:42] <escott> Socracheese, in which case you need to use the nvidia tools to configure the monitors and flip the one upsidedown
[20:42] <Socracheese> escott: you mean nvidia-settings?
[20:42] <escott> Socracheese, i dont know. i dont use nvidia
[20:44] <zykotick9> Socracheese: i've used xrandr (with nvidia) to flip my display sideways, so i'm assume upside down should work as well.
[20:44] <Socracheese> escott: well basically there's a little gui that has a bunch of settings in it but it doesn't say anything about xrand in there or rotation, i read some tutorial about enabling randr in xorg.conf but it didn't work
[20:46] <Socracheese> when I type xrandr into terminal i get "RandR extension missing"
[20:47] <hekate> Hi, I was trying to follow the instructions to install Haskell Platform on Ubuntu 10.04 from here: https://github.com/byrongibson/scripts/blob/master/install/haskell/README.md ; where when I got to the part to run the script with "sudo sh haskell-ghc-install.sh", I get this error: update-alternatives: error: alternative runhaskell can't be slave of ghc: it is a master alternative.
[20:48] <escott> !info ghc | hekate
[20:49] <acicula> hekate: why not install the ubuntu packaged version?
[20:49] <hekate> acicula: haskell-platform is not available on Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx, that's why
[20:49] <hekate> otherwise I would have just gotten it from the universal repos
[20:50] <acicula> hekate: right, that makes sense :)
[20:51] <acicula> hekate: i think the error means that the install script you are running is trying to set the newly installed version as the preferred option over the already installed version, without a version already being installed
[20:55] <hekate> acicula: so would you recommend installing ghc from the normal ubuntu repos then proceed with the Install Haskell Platform portion of that guide?
[20:56] <EDawg878_> escott, now when to use the sftp i get: Write failed: Broken pipe Couldn't read packet: Connection reset by pee
[20:56] <chocotaco> Hi, everyone!
[20:57] <acicula> hekate: i dont know, its worth a shot trying a packaged version of haskell if its recent enough, or you could fix the install script a little, just comment out running the update-alternatives statement
[20:58] <jiri> Hello, I have just completely removed 11.10 and installed 12.04. It works quite well, but I have same sound rattling issues on shut down or restart. It happens after this ubuntu shut down screen with 5 points loader. Can anyone help me with that?
[21:00] <acicula> hekate: or maybe its a setting in update-alternatives so it undersstands what you are trying to do
[21:00] <hekate> is there a way to override it then, acicula ?
[21:01] <hekate> I think at this point, I'm just going to try to compile GHC 7.4.1 and Haskell Platform by hand
[21:04] <GG111> For some reason, I cannot run executable files with just doing ./$name_of_file , I was able to do that, what did I break ?
[21:08] <hekate> Hi, I'm trying to move from Ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 and want to make sure I keep my /home the same. My plan is to make a separate partition for /home. I've a live-cd style copy of 12.04 with GParted on a USB flashdrive.
[21:08] <inkjetunito> is there an ubuntu social channel?
[21:09] <hekate> Is there a guide somewhere that I can follow to make sure I partition my /home properly and am able to use it when I overwrite the rest of / to install a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04?
[21:09] <Ben64> you don't have a /home partition now?
[21:10] <hekate> No, I don't. I wish I had figured out to do make one when I first setup this 10.04 computer a couple of years ago.
[21:11] <Ben64> what you will need to do then is-- 1. resize your root partition small enough to have room for /home in the empty space, then create a partition in the empty space, then finally move all your /home to it
[21:11] <Ansikt> Is there a way to make my box act as a switch?  I want to share my network connection.
[21:11] <Ben64> !ics | Ansikt
[21:11] <acicula> hekate: idk, what the program does is just make some symlinks for you
[21:12] <hekate> Ben64: I think I can figure out how to do all that from GParted, then how do I ensure I can use my new /home from 12.04?
[21:12] <acicula> hekate: so all you need to do to fix that is to make it install hashkell rather then trying to update the links for an existing one, but i know nothing about hacking the config for that tool
[21:12] <inkjetunito> does 12.4 have gtk3?
[21:12] <sirriffsalot> inkjetunito, yes
[21:12] <chu> inkjetunito: Yep
[21:12] <inkjetunito> thanks
[21:13] <acicula> hekate: you just mount your home, during installation you can set that in the disk partition section
[21:13] <hekate> acicula: I think I'm just going to install haskell-platform from the normal repos when I get on 12.04 :)
[21:13] <acicula> hekate: might be easier
[21:13] <Ben64> hekate: you know in gparted how it has a column for "mount point"? make sure that says /home, and then when you install 12.04, reselect that partition and set it as /home from the installer
[21:14] <acicula> hekate: you can just do a release upgrade to go from 10.04 to 12.04 though
[21:14] <acicula> no need to reinstall then
[21:14] <hekate> I don't trust teh release upgrade though acicula, I'm afraid it'll be messy :/
[21:14] <george___> Hello! Could you please help me fix my wireless? I have no wireless connection since I've removed DKMS!
[21:14] <hekate> Ben64: so does my new /home partition have to be left-most in the partition table?
[21:14] <acicula> fair enough, doing a clean install will be faster anyway
[21:14] <genoskill> how can i make acpid start before x server?
[21:15] <Ben64> hekate: can be anywhere
[21:15] <acicula> hekate: it does not matter where you put partitions, (for the pedantic, not really anyway)
[21:15] <Ben64> /home could even be on a different hard drive if you were so inclined
[21:15] <hekate> Is there a guide in the Ubuntu wiki or somewhere by chance, I've been searching but with no luck, despite this seeming like something many people would be trying to do..
[21:16] <hekate> thanks for all the help btw acicula, Ben64 and all
[21:16] <Ben64> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[21:16] <wolfmitchell> hekate: Just add "mount (device name) /home" to somewhere that is run at boot (init scripts?) to mount it to /home
[21:17] <heer> /list
[21:17] <heer> I cannot get into undernet
[21:18] <three18ti> how do I change my desktop background from the CLI?  I found this: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/3-lines-script-to-automatically-change.html page but the gconftool command does not return any output.
[21:18] <george___> Please help!
[21:20] <wargtn> buenas gente , tengo un error al compilar saben a que se deba "falta un separador. "
[21:20] <three18ti> georege___, put DKMS back.  Am I over simplifying the issue?  It's like if you go to the doctor and tell the doctor, "Boy it really hurts when I punch myself in the face"...  sometimes (most often) the obvious answer is the correct one.
[21:21] <ubuntu_guru> ola
[21:21] <three18ti> wargtn, I'm not sure if it's an actual rule, but you will get better help in English.  google translate has muddled your question, but can you please post the full error message?
[21:21] <ubuntu_guru> can anyone tell me when Gimp 2.8 will be in repositories?
[21:22] <wylde_> !es | wargtn
[21:22] <wargtn> ok let me see what that means "falta un separador."
[21:22] <EDawg878_> missing a separator
[21:22] <wargtn> jajajaj
[21:22] <wargtn> xD
[21:22] <three18ti> ubuntu_guru, you can add the gimp ppa and install it from repos that way
[21:23] <ubuntu_guru> o never mind i have answer
[21:23] <EDawg878_> what are you compiling?
[21:23] <three18ti> ubuntu_guru http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/gimp-28-stable-finally-available-for.html
[21:23] <ubuntu_guru> ty three18ti
[21:23] <three18ti> ubuntu_guru, you're welcome :)
[21:23] <wargtn> im compiling the driver for my webcam make -f Makefile-syntekdriver
[21:24] <wargtn> and i got that error message missing a separator
[21:25] <Socracheese> I can't get multiple monitors to work until I enable xinerama, then i can't use xrandr
[21:25] <three18ti> that sounds like a developer error.  "missing separator" is makes generic "wtf?" error message and indicates a syntax error.  Where did you get the source?
[21:26] <wargtn> the source is the only from syntek
[21:26] <EDawg878_> look at http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/help-with-make-error-missing-seperator-73295/
[21:26] <three18ti> Socracheese, I have the same problem with nvidia.  I finally resorted to running in "failsafe" mode.  Please let me know if you have any luck getting your multiple monitors to work.,
[21:26] <ezbbunk> hi
[21:27] <killown> what did happen with chromium? its outdated by now
[21:27] <killown> google chrome latest version is on 19
[21:27] <ezbbunk> is it possible that there are two different clipboards?
[21:27] <ezbbunk> one for mouse selection and one for Ctrl-C?
[21:27] <EDawg878_> yea i think so
[21:27] <ezbbunk> how do I
[21:27] <ezbbunk> disable that
[21:28] <wargtn> thanks a lot , letme try doing that
[21:29] <EDawg878_> There are acutally 3 clipboards
[21:29] <EDawg878_> Read this: http://superuser.com/questions/272925/ubuntu-behaves-as-if-i-have-two-clipboards
[21:29] <george___> I can't activate broadcom sta driver! Please help me enable my wireless connection. Here's /var/lock/jockey.log: http://pastebin.com/9xxEbQsx
[21:32] <linuxshine> can anyone offer a solution to clear history in software center I been trying to do this all day....
[21:35] <Shiver> I'm having a problem that I'm hoping someone can help with. After suspending and resuming on my laptop, the laptop can no longer connect to any wireless networks. It continually prompts for a new password even though it is the right password (as it just worked before the suspend).
[21:35] <moduspwnins> Shiver: did you upgrade from a previous release, or are you on a fresh install?  Are you on Precise?
[21:36] <Shiver> I'm currently on 11.10. Did a clean install a few months ago. The problem has been happening since the install but I don't use it all that often.
[21:36] <Shiver> Decided to try to get it fixed.
[21:36] <Shiver> If I fully reboot the laptop, it works fine
[21:36] <Shiver> ...until I suspend again
[21:37] <Shiver> I'm fairly new to Linux so I'm not even sure how to troubleshoot the problem.
[21:37] <moduspwnins> Shiver: I had that problem after I upgraded to 12.04 from previous release.  It went away after a fresh install.  (Not that I am offering this as a valid solution)
[21:37] <three18ti> george___, still the same advice, undo what you did to break it in the first place (You removed DKMS^^)
[21:39] <Shiver> What should be my first course of action in solving the problem? I've read a lot of threads of similar issues but none of them have helped.
[21:39] <george___> three18ti: I can't. I want to activate broadcom sta. Oh, and forget what I've said: dkms IS installed!
[21:39] <moduspwnins> I never "solved" the problem the right way, so I might not be much help  :(
[21:40] <moduspwnins> Shiver: is your wireless driver Broadcom?
[21:40] <Shiver> I'm using a Realtek card, so I would assume the driver is the same.
[21:40] <Moschito> ciao
[21:41] <three18ti> george___, so what did you do that broke the driver?  you might have better luck with the broadcom mailing list: linux-wlan-client-support-list@broadcom.com
[21:41] <moduspwnins> okay.  one thing that worked for me temporarily was to disable the proprietary driver, then re-enable it.  That would get mine to work until the next suspend.
[21:41] <upgrayeddd> Hi, this is hekate from before with questions about partitioning a new /home. I just set to shrink my old / to 200gb from 500. My /home that I'll be moving was 130gb according to du -sh test I ran before partitioning. What I'm wondering is the rest of / besides /home realistically gonna fit in 70gb? Or did I just screw myself?
[21:41] <Shiver> How would I go about doing that?
[21:42] <three18ti> george___, did you attempt to install from source or from repos?  According to the README, Ubuntu includes precompile packages, http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt
[21:42] <upgrayeddd> I'll expand the rest of the / to 200gb after I move the ~130gb /home to its own ~300gb partition of course
[21:42] <three18ti> *precompiled
[21:42] <bluelf> hey all image for my webcam is upside down is there an easy fix for this problem ?
[21:42] <fr3da> quit
[21:42] <moduspwnins> upgrayeddd: my / is a mere 25GB.  I don't see any problem with a small /
[21:42] <george___> three18ti: The thing is the driver is blacklisted, and O
[21:42] <george___> and I want to undo that
[21:42] <Shiver> How would I disable and re-enable the wireless drive?
[21:43] <upgrayeddd> moduspwnins: sounds good, I also didn't expect it to be that large but wanted to be safe :D. I guess the one way I can test is after I move /home to its own partition, it should be roughly the same ~130gb, right?
[21:43] <Shiver> driver*
[21:43] <three18ti> george___ just comment out the line where it is blacklisted with a `#`
[21:43] <upgrayeddd> I'll run the du -sh test on it after I'm all done to make sure I've kept data integrity
[21:43] <george___> three18ti: what broke the drive was sudo apt-get install --reinstall bcmwl-kernel-source
[21:44] <moduspwnins> upgrayeddd: i'm not sure I follow.  are you concerned about moving the data, or was your concern whether the system would fit into 70GB on /?
[21:44] <moduspwnins> my comment was based just on space concerns
[21:44] <moduspwnins> my / is 25GB and is only 25% used
[21:44] <moduspwnins> with lots of extra packages installed
[21:45] <Shiver> moduspwnins: What are the commands to disable and re-enable the wireless driver?
[21:45] <upgrayeddd> moduspwnins: I think you answered the question well, I was just wondering typically how much space the / system uses
[21:45] <upgrayeddd> this talk of data integrity reminds me of something I've been wondering about, my laptop often cracks open in my backpack as I'm moving throughout the day. I'd imagine this is not a good thing at all for my hard drive, would you all recommend anything to prevent this?
[21:46] <upgrayeddd> cracks open and the system wakes up from suspension state I mean
[21:46] <moduspwnins> shiver: i didn't do it via command, i did it via the restricted driver applet
[21:46] <three18ti> george___ is that driver even supported on the 3.X kernel?
[21:46] <Core23> After upgrading to 12.04 (Kubuntu 64 bit) I can no longer log in
[21:47] <wylde_> upgrayeddd: other than securing it shut somehow, turning it off would be the alernative I imagine.
[21:47] <Guest70371> I currently have a nightly/unstable look-up for some software that I would prefer the stable version of, how can I change that? Is it in my sources.info?
[21:47] <Core23> I just get a blue screen and a mouse cursor after entering username and password
[21:48] <wylde_> upgrayeddd: could find yourself some sort of velcro strap to fasten it shut if you don't want to turn it off.
[21:48] <SwashBuckla> GRUB2 question: I have set the TIMEOUT=0 and the DEFAULT=0 (Windows). Can I still boot Ubuntu? I have just tried holding Shift all through the boot process, and a change DOES occur: I get the message "GRUB loading...". However, this disappears after 5 or so seconds and continues with it's configured boot process (i.e. it does not show the GRUB menu)
[21:48] <george___> three18ti: I believe so. If not, I just want to reenable the other drive. Can you help me?
[21:52] <upgrayeddd> Following along with this guide Ben64 linked before: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[21:53] <Rasmus> Hi ! Does anyone know how to change display driver in ubuntu 10.04 ?
[21:53] <upgrayeddd> I notice we never actually do a mv /old/home to the the /new/ partition ... is there something I'm not understanding, or is the /home really moved to the /new partition there?
[21:53] <three18ti> george___, reason I ask is th README only specifies 2.6.X ("the hybrid binary is agnostic to the specific versions (2.6.X) and distributions (Fedora, Ubuntu, SuSE, etc)." ) I honestly do not know if is compatible with the 3.X kernel, which is why I asked how you installed it. again, you might get better results on the broadcom mailing list about their drivers ("Support questions for the latest version of these drivers may be directed to linux-wlan-cli
[21:53] <three18ti> ent-support-list@broadcom.com.");  what was the other driver ?
[21:53] <three18ti> Rasmus, does this help: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17495/how-to-add-proprietary-drivers-to-ubuntu-10.04/
[21:53] <upgrayeddd> Is the sudo cp /old/etc/fstab /old/etc/fstab_backup command the one that actually moves everything?
[21:54] <BlouBlou> How to change ubuntu's admin and root passwords?
[21:54] <BlouBlou> if I change admins pass, root will automatically change, right?
[21:54] <three18ti> BlouBlou, https://www.google.com/search?q=How+to+change+ubuntu%27s+admin+and+root+passwords&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=ubuntu&channel=fs
[21:54] <wylde_> !noroot | BlouBlou
[21:57] <three18ti> !binarydriver | Rasmus
[21:57] <aakside> I've been getting lots of freezes on 12.04. Sometimes the crash report comes up after rebooting and, commonly, Xorg crashes or colord crashes. Can Anyone help me troubleshoot/fix?
[21:58] <three18ti> ubottu, you're so cool.
[21:58] <george___> three18ti: I don't know! This mail list will take a lot of time, and I'm beggining to get a little desperate here
[21:59] <Xnc> ubottu, are you an infobot?
[21:59] <wylde_> !beer
[21:59]  * RaTTuS Gives e-bree to rhizmoe
[21:59] <wylde_> -.-
[21:59] <Xnc> ubottu, do you have feelings?
[22:00] <chu> Xnc: Please don't.
[22:00] <three18ti> george___, well, you have two options, you can continue to idle on IRC on the off chance that someone will come on and know exactly how to fix your problem without you providing any information (IOW, a mind reader), or you can contact the experts on the product you are having an issue with and reach a resolution in a much more timely manner.
[22:00] <angs> I get the following error: root@ubuntu:~/Downloads/nemiver-0.9.2# apt-get build-dep nemiver
[22:00] <angs> Reading package lists... Done
[22:00] <angs> Building dependency tree
[22:00] <angs> Reading state information... Done
[22:00] <FloodBot1> angs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:00] <angs> E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[22:00] <wylde_> guess that only works in #ubuntu-offtopic </ot>
[22:00] <angs> how can I fix it?
[22:01] <three18ti> george___, frankly, you are likely to spend -less- time working on this if you were to mail the people who are responsible for it.
[22:01] <angs> how can I fix it?
[22:02] <angs> can anyone help me?
[22:02] <ubuntu_guru> sleep time
[22:02] <ubuntu_guru> night all
[22:02] <Ben64> angs: First, use pastebin. Second, what are you trying to accomplish? Third, running things as root is unnecessary and could cause problems.
[22:02] <three18ti> angs, you need something in your sources.list
[22:03] <three18ti> !sources.list | angs
[22:03] <NV1D1A> i need to know how disable the nouveau driver. thanks
[22:04] <Ansikt> Is there any way to undo ndiswrapper -m?  I installed a "invalid" driver, and bound it to my network card with -m.  Then I uninstalled that driver and reinstalled  a newer version.  Ndiswrapper says that the driver is installed, but does not see the device.  I suspect it is because the old driver is already bound to it, but I am unsure.
[22:04] <Ansikt> Any suggestions?
[22:04] <three18ti> nv1d1a, add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf ?
[22:04] <angs> sorry for pasting the text here. I did not understand what I suppose to do
[22:04] <Core23> any advice?  no errors, no lockup, just doesn't progress into KDE
[22:04] <angs> what I need to add "/etc/apt/sources.list" ?
[22:05] <p1ppppp> guys, i did an "apt-get purge libboost" and unintentionally ruined my system.  Unitys gone, no panel, nothing, please help.
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[22:05] <ClientAlive> I'm having a problem with my screen resolution in ubuntu 12.04. Any ideas what to do?
[22:05] <p1ppppp> i mean "apt-get purge libboost*"
[22:05] <NV1D1A> but nouveau still in function
[22:06] <NV1D1A> i have to disable the nouveau driver from other place but where?
[22:07] <angs> what package do I need to install for "libboost development headers" ?
[22:07] <three18ti> NV1D1A, modprobe -b ?
[22:07] <three18ti> NV1D1A, what "other" place?
[22:07] <ikonia> angs: not building nagios are you
[22:07] <p1ppppp> angs: sudo apt-get install libboost-dev
[22:07] <three18ti> !nvidia | NV1d1a
[22:07] <angs> thank you
[22:07] <JanvierCF> Hello there
[22:08] <wylde_> p1ppppp: I suppose try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop
[22:08] <george___> three18ti: so, that's why I really need to reenable my wireless...
[22:09] <NV1D1A> i had added the lines in the end as blacklist but it not work, have to there are other way to do this, XD
[22:09] <p1ppppp> ok wylde, thanks I'll restart x
[22:10] <p1ppppp> is there a shortcut to kill x, or log out of x?
[22:10] <JanvierCF> I am trying to install ubuntu on a packard bell netbook off a USB stick. The stick works just fine on my desktop, but when I try to boot my netbook with it plugged it it doesn't boot at all. It won't let me go into the BIOS or boot menu either as long as its plugged in. Any ideas what the reason could be?
[22:10] <p1ppppp> as i no longer have a desktop
[22:10] <wylde_> p1ppppp: ctrl+alt+f1 login and 'sudo service lightdm stop'
[22:10] <fff> hey guys im having trouble installing gerix on ubuntu 12.04.  Could anyone help?
[22:11] <p1ppppp> wylde: Thank you so much
[22:11] <JanvierCF> I also checked if my netbook is compatible to boot off usb, and it is
[22:11] <wylde_> p1ppppp: then try to 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'  maybe include the --reinstall flag if the first command complains.
[22:12] <fff> hey guys im having trouble installing gerix on ubuntu 12.04.  Could anyone help?
[22:12] <iceroot> !details | fff
[22:13] <wylde_> !find gerix
[22:13] <BlueEagle> !info gerix
[22:13] <BlueEagle> wylde_: You beat me to it. :)
[22:13] <wylde_> fff: if it's not in the repos, you should seek support from the package dev's. Just sayin'
[22:14] <wylde_> BlueEagle:  ;)
[22:14] <fff> OK here is more details.  I am trying to install Gerix on Ubuntu 12.04 32 bit desktop.
[22:14] <BlueEagle> !enter | fff
[22:15] <solid91> how can i install some .tar.gz files? i have some problems with "make"
[22:15] <BlueEagle> !build-essentials | solid91
[22:15] <fff> OK here is more details.  I am trying to install Gerix on Ubuntu 12.04 32 bit desktop.   i type in wget http://www.clshack.com/nopaste/gerix-wifi-cracker-ng-2.0-bt7.deb and that works fine.  Next i try to do "sudo dpkg -i gerix-wifi-cracker-ng-2.0-bt7.deb"  and i get an error witch is "dpkg: error processing gerix-wifi-cracker-ng-2.0-bt7.deb (--install):
[22:15] <fff>  unable to open file '/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci//.svn': Is a directory
[22:15] <fff> Errors were encountered while processing:
[22:15] <fff>  gerix-wifi-cracker-ng-2.0-bt7.deb
[22:15] <FloodBot1> fff: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:16] <angs> I get the following error. what should I do? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1034582/
[22:16] <wylde_> !compile | solid91: although, you should see if the package you want is in the repos.
[22:16] <BlueEagle> !pastebin | fff
[22:16] <trism> angs: install libsqlite3-dev
[22:17] <angs> trism: thank you
[22:17] <BlueEagle> fff: You seem to be doing quite a bit wrong. Please review the !guidelines
[22:17] <BlueEagle> !guidelines > fff
[22:17] <wylde_> fff: as I stated earlier. The package is notin the repos, so not supported here.
[22:18] <fff> wylde so gerix wont work with ubuntu 12.04?
[22:18] <JanvierCF> Please guys, could someone help me out? I've tried everything in the faq and scoured the technical answers, but I haven't found a solution :(
[22:19] <BlueEagle> JanvierCF: If the USB boots on one machine and not the other I would guess that the issue is with the machine, not the stick. I don't have the notebook in question so it's hard for me to debug.
[22:20] <Socracheese> I'm editing xorg.conf manually to rotate a screen on ubuntu 12.04, if I do option "Rotate" "CW" or "ccw" it works but not "UD" for upside-down, anyone know why?
[22:20] <Ca11um> I'm considering using a Ubuntu dedi instead of Windows....
[22:21] <Ca11um> I have one concern;
[22:21] <Ca11um> (This will be hosting game servers, web services, some other game-server-related software such as TeamSpeak)
[22:21] <Ca11um> Is there a 'services' system?
[22:21] <Ca11um> I take it there is
[22:21] <angs> I get "configure: error: Package requirements (gconf-2.0 >= 2.14.0) were not met:" I tried apt-get install gconf and gconf-dev but it did not help. can anyone suggest me what package do I need to install?
[22:21] <Ca11um> So I can run console stuff in the background
[22:21] <Ca11um> I've used screens before, but that was ****
[22:21] <BlueEagle> fff: I think what wylde_ is trying to communicate is that since Gerix is not an official Ubuntu package it is not supported in the official ubuntu support channel. Being that it is software primarily used for breaking encryption I am not inclined to help anywhere.
[22:22] <JanvierCF> BlueEagle: thanks for the reply. I figured the same, but I tried everything from wiping the hard drive to changing all the boot settings, I haven't a clue what the issue is. I've already installed other OS off a stick with no problems. What could I do to find out?
[22:22] <BlueEagle> !enter | Ca11um
[22:22] <bwayne_work> hi.  i'm using both the MinBufWinExplorer and the NERDtree plugin.  When I open a new file via NERDTree in a vertically split window, the new window is very narrow, as narrow as the NERDTree window.  my .vimrc --> http://pastebin.com/wHLZqSUk screenshot --> http://i.imgur.com/ZuAtZ.png  (sorry for xpost from #vim. no help there)
[22:22] <Curt`> Hello. I am duel booting windows 7 and ubuntu 12.04 and have a third partition that is going to be used for my documents (ntfs). I wanted my home Music etc. folders to be symbolic links to the third partition, however afaik the partition is not mounted on startup, breaking the symbolic links until it is mounted. is there a way to auto-mount it on startup?
[22:22] <angs> I get "E: Unable to locate package gconf-dev" for "apt-get install gconf-dev"
[22:23] <bwayne_work> Curt`: add the windows partition to /etc/fstab.
[22:23] <BlueEagle> JanvierCF: Well if you're not able to describe in more detail exactly what happens when you try to install Ubuntu we will be hard pressed to help.
[22:23] <bwayne_work> Curt`, something like /dev/sda1 ntfs /mnt/windows
[22:24] <bwayne_work> Curt`, but look at the previous stuff in /etc/fstab.  It's fairly straightforward.
[22:24] <trism> angs: libgconf2-dev, very useful is: apt-cache search -n gconf dev; (substituting gconf for whatever lib you are looking for)
[22:24] <bwayne_work> !fstab
[22:24] <BlueEagle> JanvierCF: Yes, there are services, but you would in all likelyhood want to use screens especially for server consoles.
[22:24] <BlueEagle> JanvierCF: Sorry, wrong nick. That one was for Ca11um.
[22:25] <dangbarry> hey! i came across something in a make file that i hadn't seen before; $@ is this the name: and $< is this what preceeds the name ?
[22:25] <JanvierCF> BlueEagle: I insert the stick, then turn on my computer. It simply gets stuck in the booting screen. It doesn't respond to me pressing f2 or f8 except is does display that setup is loading
[22:25] <angs> thank you trism
[22:25] <Core23> !guidelines core23
[22:26] <Curt`> bwayne_work, thank you ill check it out.
[22:26] <Core23> !guidelines >>> core23
[22:26] <bwayne_work> Curt`, you're very welcome.
[22:26] <BlueEagle> JanvierCF: The issue may be that your BIOS is jumbling the partition identifiers so it boots as one device and then suddenly it is not that device any longer.
[22:26] <BlueEagle> JanvierCF: Try setting the USB stick as the first boot device so you don't use the boot menu. If that doesn't work set it to the last boot device and use the boot menu to select booting from that stick.
[22:27] <trism> dangbarry: http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html#Automatic-Variables
[22:27] <fff> 1
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[22:27] <fff>  3
[22:27] <fff>  4
[22:27] <fff>  5
[22:27] <FloodBot1> fff: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:27] <fff>  6
[22:28] <dangbarry> trism: thanks!
[22:28] <BlueEagle> Thanks ljl
[22:28] <Core23> Can anybody help me with my issue: No longer able to use KDE after upgrade to 12.04, everything appears to be working fine but nothing happens after login
[22:28] <JanvierCF> BlueEagle: USB was set as first, I now made it last but the boot selection menu just doesn't load again :/
[22:29] <oxseyn> Anyone have a good link to information on how the /etc/network/interfaces.template file is used?
[22:29] <BlueEagle> JanvierCF: Well if it does get to setup loading then it is doing _something_. Not sure how to make the USB boot sequence more verbose, sorry.
[22:30] <BlueEagle> oxseyn: The interfaces.template is a template for /etc/network/interfaces. Please type in a console: man interfaces
[22:30] <BlueEagle> oxseyn: That will give you the manual page for /etc/network/interfaces.
[22:31] <angs> configure: error: Package requirements (gmodule-2.0 >= 2.14            gthread-2.0 >= 2.14            libxml-2.0 >= 2.6.22            libgtop-2.0 >= 2.14            glibmm-2.4 >= 2.14) were not met. Is there any library for them to install?
[22:31] <Core23> Alternativley, anybody have any idea how to connect to a wireless with iwconfig, so i can at least download an install image at better than 801.11g speeds?
[22:31] <JanvierCF> BlueEagle: no problem, thanks for your time. Do you think it could be possible to boot it off an external usb cd-drive?
[22:32] <Gyges> Core23, does it need wpa
[22:32] <Gyges> ?
[22:32] <BlueEagle> angs: if they are not in the repos you'd have to compile them from source as well. However if they are not backward compatible you may break something else when trying.
[22:32] <Core23> wpa2 yes
[22:32] <dirtynickels> hello all
[22:32] <Gyges> do you have the command wpa_supplicant available?
[22:32] <Core23> yes
[22:33] <BlueEagle> JanvierCF: Yes, I do. Then again I thing it should be possible to boot it off the USB-stick. Are you using some UEFI BIOS or some such?
[22:33] <trism> angs: libglib2.0-dev for a couple of those, the rest you should be able to find yourself
[22:33] <JanvierCF> BlueEagle: InsydeH20 v0.3103
[22:33] <Gyges> wpa_passphrase "essid" "passphrase" >> /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[22:33] <angs> thank you. can you hint how to search?
[22:34] <trism> angs: apt-cache search -n name dev; replace name with say, libxml, gtop, etc
[22:34] <BlueEagle> JanvierCF: I must admit that I do not know what that is. However if it is some UEFI security-bs then I'm not sure how to work around it.
[22:34] <angs> thank you trism
[22:34] <solid91> hi everibody, when i use "./configure" i think something goes wrong...i have an error i think: "checking for Qt library version >=4.2... no; Qt 4.2 or greater is required....what is that?!?!
[22:34] <sleepie^eyes> how do i configure ubuntu such that internet ports are denied by default unless specified explicity as allowed?
[22:35] <BlueEagle> solid91: You appear to be missing QT4 development packages.
[22:35] <BlueEagle> ufw is the default firewall manager. I prefer shorewall myself.
[22:35] <sleepie^eyes> Why shorewall? I've heard that mentioned before
[22:36] <sleepie^eyes> Anyway to do this without learning how to configure iptables would be appreciated
[22:36] <BlueEagle> sleepie^eyes: Because I configure my firewall using a text-based interface and I have found Shorewall to be the most usable when it comes to flexibility and learning curve. Mind you thoug; configure it when you've got physical access to the computer. You will most likely lock yourself out of a ssh-session by mistake if you try. :)
[22:37] <dirtynickels> I can't get my system to detect my usb hdd
[22:38] <Gyges> dirtynickels, search for errors in /var/log/syslog
[22:38] <sleepie^eyes> I'd be happy if I could just be sure I'm the only one using ssh on this network... that's good advice, I'm probably headed in that direction, for now I'd like some basic port blocking
[22:38] <Core23> Gyges: permission denied with sudo?
[22:38] <Gyges> yes
[22:38] <dirtynickels> okay I check there
[22:38] <BlueEagle> sleepie^eyes: Are you setting up a single box or will you be routing for other computers as well (windows equivalent of internet connection sharing)?
[22:38] <Gyges> sudo -c ' '
[22:38] <adamk> dirtynickels: Does 'lsusb' list the hard drive?
[22:38] <pacci> !list
[22:39] <Gyges> wrong
[22:39] <Relondo> So I left Ubuntu installing on my laptop, walked away for about two hours, and when I came back, the screen was dark. Nothing appeared, so I held down the power button to turn it off. Afterwards, my computer did not appear to boot-nothing appeared when the power button was pressed, though indicator lights came on. Then, I took out the battery and left it alone for five minutes. It booted, and proceeded to check the windows system files
[22:39] <Gyges> su -c
[22:39] <Core23> oh
[22:39] <dirtynickels> I tried lsudb
[22:39] <sleepie^eyes> BlueEagle, That depends on which "road" I take, if I learn iptables I will configure it in the dd-wrt router to benefit the network as a whole, otherwise just one linux box
[22:39] <Gyges> su -c ' '
[22:39] <dirtynickels> nothing showed up
[22:39] <Gyges> will do the job
[22:40] <JanvierCF> BlueEagle: Hmm it might well be that uefi is the problem. I guess I'll try cd tomorrow. Anyway, thanks a lot for your advice, I greatly appreciate it! Gnight
[22:40] <Core23> hmm
[22:40] <Johna> I am having trouble installilng Gerix on Ubuntu 12.04, here is a link to the question.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1034595/
[22:40] <Core23> I have no idea what my superuser password is
[22:40] <Core23> I didn't even know I had one in ubuntu
[22:40] <Gyges> sudo '' ?
[22:40] <Relondo> Ok, so windows finished checking the system files. I have no second partition for Ubuntu, and everything appears to be normal. I have no clue what happened.
[22:41] <sleepie^eyes> sudont should be a command for password protecting blocking of sudo managed commands
[22:41] <Core23> ok
[22:41] <Core23> its in
[22:41] <Core23> now what?
[22:41] <solid91> how can i get the Qt4 development package?
[22:41] <Gyges> wpa_supplicant -i wlan0
[22:41] <adamk_> dirtynickels: That suggests a hardware issue.
[22:41] <Gyges> and then in another shell : dhcpcd wlan0
[22:42] <sleepie^eyes> BlueEagle, one linux box. What do you suggest?
[22:42] <Core23> wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 givels me the help message
[22:42] <sleepie^eyes> I have to do the box itself anyway since it's mobile
[22:42] <Gyges> it's like the example of the help
[22:43] <Gyges> wpa_supplicant -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[22:43] <angs> who updates the programs in ubuntu software center?
[22:44] <Gyges> i forgot to put -c
[22:44] <angs> how can I request a newer version of a program?
[22:44] <BlueEagle> sleepie^eyes: I recommend installing shorewall and then reading the documentation. There is a complete setup in /usr/share/doc/shorewall/examples/one-interface/ after installing.
[22:44] <xangua> !latest | angs
[22:44] <Johna> Could someone please help me install Gerix.  Here is a link to my process http://paste.ubuntu.com/1034595/
[22:44] <Core23> aaand dhcpcd tells me I can use apt-get to install it
[22:45] <sleepie^eyes> BlueEagle, I just started, thanks, I forgot about shorewall
[22:45] <Gyges> angs, i don't know but i would check in precise to see if the program is already there
[22:45] <BlueEagle> sleepie^eyes: The thing I like most about Shorewall is that you can add interfaces and zones, even network cards after the wall is set up and just add the policies and rules for the new zones and leaving the old ones intact.
[22:45] <Gyges> Core23, type dhc<tab><tab> to see which client is installed (probably dhclient :)
[22:45] <Core23> dhclient yeah
[22:46] <jemark> !gentoo
[22:46] <Gyges> you can use this
[22:46] <solid91> @BlueEagle can you tell me how to install the Qt4 development packages please?
[22:46] <BlueEagle> sleepie^eyes: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1354438 may also help you along. Even if it is for 08.10 the Shorewall configuration is robust.
[22:46] <sleepie^eyes> BlueEagle, that's a bit advanced for me, I understand the concept mostly
[22:46] <Gyges> angs, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[22:47] <BlueEagle> sleepie^eyes: It would be a great learning opportunity. :)
[22:47] <sleepie^eyes> Like, editing a sample config file or making a simple one was what I had in mind but shorewall hard code me into limitation later so I'll start that, thanks again
[22:48] <sleepie^eyes> shorewall ^won't
[22:48] <sleepie^eyes> kinda essential
[22:48] <sleepie^eyes> laters :)
[22:48] <Gyges> bye
[22:49] <Core23> aaaand nothing, the dhclient shell has yet to respond
[22:50] <Gyges> wpa_supplicant have not connected for some reason
[22:50] <danklasson> join #python
[22:50] <Gyges> Core23, do 'service network-manager stop'
[22:51] <Gyges> i don't know how to connect using network-manager
[22:52] <Johna> Gyges what ver. of Ubuntu are you running?
[22:52] <eok> i just made a thread on ubuntu forums, does it need to be moderated before it shows up?
[22:52] <Gyges> im in debian
[22:52] <Core23> well, I at least got it admiting that the network exists, farther than I ever got before textwise
[22:52] <Gyges> no, i was answering to Core23
[22:52] <ikonia> Gyges: the guys in #debian maybe a better place to ask for help then
[22:53] <Gyges> thnx
[22:53] <Gyges> :D:D
[22:53] <ikonia> Gyges: ooh, my apologies, I thought you where saying you where struggling to use it
[22:53] <Gyges> i meant from the command line
[22:54] <Core23> I will go back to #debian just as soon as its possible to install debian off of wireless
[22:54] <Gyges> Core23, 'iwlist wlan0 scan' shows the networks
[22:54] <Gyges> i'm not moving from debian either
[22:55] <Gyges> :)
[22:55] <tracingPerson> anyone know what file has the implementation for XSetWMName(...) method in X11?  Or anyone know a good way to find out, or an easy place to get the source for X11?
[22:56] <ikonia> tracingPerson: x.org contains the source code for xorg
[22:56] <kuwrefem1> Gyges:  i don't think the CLI for network manager is as complete as the GUI
[22:57] <ikonia> tracingPerson: it also has very solid documentation
[22:57] <tracingPerson> ikonia: have you successfully unarchived it?  I attempted to grab it from ftp but then when i tried to recursively unarchive i got a "Too many simlinks" message from gunzip or whatever
[22:58] <ikonia> tracingPerson: unarchived it many times
[22:58] <solid91> Hi everibody, i have this message using "./configure": checking for Qt library version >= 4.2 ... no; Qt 4.2 or greater is required...which packages i should install?
[22:58] <ikonia> solid91: what are you trying to build /
[22:58] <solid91> @ikonia qjackctl
[22:58] <ikonia> !find qjackctl
[22:58] <Gyges> hehehe
[22:58] <ikonia> !info qjackctl
[22:59] <ikonia> solid91: it's in the repos, you don't need to compile it
[22:59] <tracingPerson> ikonia: i probably just suck at it, do you know the easiest way to pull all the source initially, i did wget -r ftp://ftp.freedesktop.org/pub/xorg/X11R7.7/
[22:59] <ikonia> solid91: just open the package manager, and install it
[22:59] <solid91> @ikonia yeah but is the older version... the 0.3.8...i have the 0.3.9
[22:59] <ikonia> solid91: why do you want 0.3.9
[23:00] <ikonia> tracingPerson: go a few directories deeper
[23:00] <solid91> @ikonia because i have problems with it...
[23:00] <Core23> ok, just going to wait for the install image off the slow comp
[23:00] <ikonia> solid91: are they logged as bugs ?
[23:00] <ikonia> solid91: are they confirmed fixed in 0.3.9 ?
[23:00] <Gyges> ok
[23:00] <solid91> @ikonia i don't know man...im just tryng
[23:00] <Core23> quick question I will be able to use 6 gigs RAM on 32 bit ubuntu without compiling my own kernel right?
[23:01] <ikonia> solid91: ok, it's worth checking before randomly trying to build something tha tyou're not comfortable with
[23:01] <ikonia> Core23: the PAE kernel will allow it
[23:01] <solid91> @ikonia ok...but i have another program what i cant build and it isn't in the repository
[23:01] <bluej774> Anyone else having a problem on 12.04 where a window's status bar at the bottom doesn't show and you can see the window behind it?
[23:02] <ikonia> solid91: which one ?
[23:02] <solid91> @ikonia linux multimedia studio
[23:02] <Gyges> !find lmms
[23:02] <ikonia> solid91: lmms /
[23:02] <ikonia> ?
[23:02] <bluej774> It happens when a program opens maximized.  If you unmaximize and remaximize it's normal again.
[23:02] <tracingPerson> ikonia: if I malloc a window title, pass the (char *) to methods in X11 to set strings like the title bar string etc, I can be fairly certain that they aren't going to keep a reference to my pointer so its fine to free it after calling into X11 right?
[23:03] <ikonia> tracingPerson: no idea without looking/checking myself
[23:03] <ikonia> solid91: are you talking about lmms ?
[23:03] <solid91> @ikonia yes
[23:04] <ikonia> https://launchpad.net/~dns/+archive/sound
[23:04] <ikonia> solid91: that ppa contains the packages
[23:04] <ikonia> solid91: again you shouldn't need to compile it
[23:04] <tracingPerson> ikonia: k, just making sure I wasn't missing some basic concept or whatever, so I was trying to grab the source to find out... if i just grab the archive from ftp://ftp.freedesktop.org/pub/xorg/X11R7.7/src/xserver/ is that too deep?
[23:04] <solid91> @ikonia sorry man didn't seen...thank you
[23:04] <dirtynickels> usually when I attach my usb hdd it automounts to /media I grep usb  /var/log/syslog don't really understand all the output but there are errors
[23:04] <ikonia> solid91: not a problem, be aware of the risks of using a PPA
[23:04] <ikonia> solid91: however they are no more/less then building your own if you don't really know what you are doing
[23:05] <droope> Hi! I have accidentally changed my language to chinese, now everything is in chinese and I can't change it back u.u
[23:05] <droope> help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XD
[23:05] <ikonia> droope: please don't do that, just ask for help and wait for a response
[23:06] <dirtynickels> lol droope wish I could help
[23:06] <droope> ikonia: sir yes sir
[23:06] <droope> dirtynickels: hhhahahaha :( so dumb
[23:06] <tracingPerson> ikonia: only reason I ask if its too deep, because I grab the archive in that directory, and then unarchive, and grep for xsetwmname and don't find any matches
[23:06] <belbel> hello,i need help with finding a broadcom bcm4312 driver on ubuntu
[23:07] <belbel> any ideas??
[23:07] <LittleBallOfHate> !b43
[23:07] <ikonia> tracingPerson: xorg is modular, make sure you unarchive all the packages
[23:07] <wylde_> !broadcom | belbel
[23:07] <ikonia> tracingPerson: without looking myself, I don't know enough to advise you where/what to look for
[23:07] <belbel> yes b43
[23:08] <belbel> thx,i will read it
[23:08] <Omen_20> hi, im trying to go to standby and I get the error "Could not write bytes: Broken pipe"
[23:09] <mitsuhiko> hey
[23:09] <mitsuhiko> does anyone know if ubuntu has a hook to force overwrite the PS1 of all users on the system?
[23:10] <Gyges> mitsuhiko, does /etc/bash/bashrc control PS1? it may
[23:10] <ikonia> mitsuhiko: you can put it in every uses bash enviornment
[23:10] <w30> droope, you'll have to borrow a Linux laptop with the same distro and then monkey see monkey do, ha
[23:10] <ikonia> mitsuhiko: it's not a "global" parameter, but one for each user
[23:10] <Gyges> not suere
[23:10] <LittleBallOfHate> mitsuhiko: there are global shell config files in /etc but people will always be able to overwrite them unless you put one in each homedir and chattr +i it.
[23:10] <mitsuhiko> LittleBallOfHate: i understand that
[23:10] <Gyges> LittleBallOfHate, is right
[23:10] <mitsuhiko> LittleBallOfHate: i am all the users however, so that is not much of a concern for me
[23:11] <Gyges> muahahahaha
[23:11] <mitsuhiko> i just basically want to make sure that each prompt on all the servers clearly indicates in all situations that this is a server
[23:11] <LittleBallOfHate> mitsuhiko: then either set it in the global configs or drop your config in each homedir
[23:11] <Gyges> try /etc/bash/bashrc
[23:11] <mitsuhiko> Gyges: unfortunately the default ~/.bashrc overrides that prompt
[23:11] <Gyges> thnx
[23:11] <mitsuhiko> i was hoping ubuntu would execute something after it sources ~/.bashrc
[23:11] <LittleBallOfHate> mitsuhiko: nope that's not how shells work
[23:11] <Gyges> .bashprofile?
[23:12] <Gyges> i'm a mesh
[23:12] <Gyges> mess
[23:12] <belbel> hello,i tried what the page said,but error!!!!
[23:13] <belbel> when i do sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl
[23:13] <belbel> i get error!!!!
[23:13] <mitsuhiko> LittleBallOfHate: i understand that,
[23:13] <LittleBallOfHate> belbel: what is the error
[23:13] <Feo-> where you from???
[23:13] <mitsuhiko> however last time i was checking there was so much magic in debian already for rc management, i would not be surprised if someone added hooks somewhere
[23:14] <belbel> its a group of errors,when i pase it here,it would say flood :D
[23:14] <Feo-> :S
[23:14] <Feo-> °.o
[23:14] <Feo-> o.°
[23:14] <Feo-> o.°
[23:14] <Feo-> o.°
[23:14] <FloodBot1> Feo-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:14] <LittleBallOfHate> !pastebin | belbel
[23:14] <Feo-> o.°
[23:14] <FloodBot1> Feo-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:14] <belbel> ok
[23:15] <ikonia> Feo-: stop it please.
[23:15] <Gyges> oups
[23:15] <belbel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1034653/plain/
[23:16] <LittleBallOfHate> belbel: it says you're missing "wl"
[23:17] <belbel> and how can i fix that,im a newbie :D
[23:17] <LittleBallOfHate> belbel: modprobe wl
[23:17] <LittleBallOfHate> belbel: what's that say?
[23:18] <belbel> also error
[23:19] <sleepie^eyes> BlueEagle, are you still nafk? I could use the tutorial link you recommended for shorewall, the one I selected is dated
[23:19] <LittleBallOfHate> belbel: k, so wl just doesn't exist. have you followed the steps at that website?
[23:19] <LittleBallOfHate> !b43
[23:19] <belbel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1034659/plain/
[23:19] <sleepie^eyes> Crap
[23:20] <belbel> i followed that page,when i get step 3,the error begins
[23:20] <newbie|9> how do you think what is better for buying ubuntu laptop or macbok
[23:20] <LittleBallOfHate> belbel reading
[23:20] <xangua> !ot | newbie|9
[23:20] <LittleBallOfHate> belbel: did you reboot already?
[23:21] <wylde_> sleepie^eyes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1034661/ <--- result of an onlinr log search script I'm working on :)
[23:21] <newbie|9> #ubuntu -offtopic
[23:21] <wylde_> sleepie^eyes: I believe the link you want is in the last few lines.
[23:21] <sleepie^eyes> wylde, Thanks! Love the script
[23:21] <belbel> i didnt coz a already have what mentioned in step1 and 2
[23:22] <LittleBallOfHate> belbel: the doc says to install the package then activate the driver and either reboot or do that line that gives you an error. so either reboot and see if it works or "modprobe wl" now.
[23:23] <sleepie^eyes> wylde, indeed it was, thanks again.
[23:23] <belbel> ok,i will
[23:23] <LittleBallOfHate> belbel: easiest is modprobe wl
[23:24] <samba_> how to change the timestamp in rsyslog configuration ?
[23:24] <bryce> hi, i am trying to copy my linux exactly as is to a solid state that already has windows 7 on it. when i tried to do it with gparted and then went into windows to use easybcd it wouldn't boot into linux, what am i missing?
[23:24] <LittleBallOfHate> samba_: man syslog.conf?
[23:25] <samba_> LinuxMonkey, yes but there is no info about which is the variable
[23:25] <samba_> to edit
[23:25] <LittleBallOfHate> bryce: have you reinstalled grub on the ssd?
[23:25] <bryce> im sure its because i have to reinstall the boot loader but i don't know how.
[23:26] <LittleBallOfHate> samba_: no idea man.
[23:26] <xubuntu5> grub or grub2?
[23:26] <bryce> probably grub 2 that's what i was using before im sure.
[23:27] <bryce> how do i do that? from a live version of parted magic?
[23:28] <LittleBallOfHate> bryce: think you need an ubuntu disk
[23:28] <LittleBallOfHate> bryce: or put the old disk back in with the sdd, boot old disk, fix from there, take machine down remove old disk
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> !bootinfo | bryce This script will tell us more of what is going on.
[23:30] <Oer> samba_,  maybe this page is any help with rsyslog conf >> http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/rsyslog_conf_templates.html
[23:30] <MystKid> heya guys i am using fdisk to repartition my /home partition... running  fdisk /dev/sda I get a message saying  Partition 3 does not start on physical sector boundary.
[23:30] <bryce> is there a way to reinstall and easily pull all my settings, apps and documents onto the new installation?
[23:30] <samba_> Oer, tnx man
[23:31] <LittleBallOfHate> bryce: boot off an ubuntu disk, tell it to boot a hard disk, pick the ssd, once in, fix grub
[23:31] <Jester86_Mobile> hey.. what is the status on playing blu-ray in linux?
[23:31] <shaneo> hey guys how can i change to apache2 port from 80 to something else
[23:31] <Oer> bryce, clone your package list, and backup your /home/ ?
[23:31] <shaneo> *the
[23:31] <Oer> !clone
[23:31] <LittleBallOfHate> shaneo: apache2.conf
[23:32] <shaneo> LittleBallOfHate, is it located in /etc/apache2?
[23:32] <LittleBallOfHate> shaneo: yup.
[23:32] <MystKid> i jsut used fdisk to create a new partition and its saying /dev/sda3             919G   14G  860G   2% /home
[23:32] <MystKid> hows that possible
[23:32] <MystKid> i jsut deleted it...
[23:33] <bryce> Thank you all. i'm going to go try aand make this work.
[23:33] <shaneo> LittleBallOfHate, ok also do i need to change it in /etc/apache2/sites-avaiable/default?
[23:33] <Oer> MystKid, you need to unmount te disk before editting
[23:33] <MystKid> it is unmonuted
[23:33] <MystKid> Oer: and it says 14GB are used
[23:33] <MystKid> when nothing is in there
[23:33] <mjabm> I have multiple monitors. How do I stop my mouse from stopping when it moves between them?
[23:34] <echo083> hello when i try to rename a file from lowercase to uppercase (or the contrary) it fails with error "file already exists ..." is there something to fix that ?
[23:34] <shaneo> LittleBallOfHate, n/m i got it need to edit ports.conf and default
[23:35] <echo083> it happens in nautilus
[23:35] <Oer> MystKid, ctrl + H hidden, is there a Lost & found section?
[23:35] <MystKid> no Oer
[23:35] <MystKid> i sjut dd'ed it to zero
[23:35] <MystKid> its seems its used for super user
[23:35] <wylde_> mjabm: I'm not on unity atm, but in display settings there's an option for "sticky" something or other. Turn that off.
[23:36] <wylde_> MystKid: usually 5% is set aside for root, although that can be changed.
[23:36] <MystKid> wylde_: how can that be set?
[23:36] <dirtynickels> usually when I attach my usb hdd it automounts to /media I have two connected how do I mount 'em ?  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1034676/
[23:36] <Oer> that would be no 14 gb
[23:36] <mjabm> thanks wylde
[23:37] <wylde_> MystKid: I'm currently already scrathing my head trying to remember >.<
[23:37] <xubuntu5> dirtynickels check out /etc/fstab for mounting drives
[23:37] <adamk> dirtynickels: As you can see from all those errors, bad things are happening between your USB Hub and the hard drive.
[23:37] <mjabm> How do I disable subpixel antialiasing on one of my monitors?
[23:37] <Ben64> wylde, MystKid: tune2fs
[23:37] <xubuntu5> run the command df -h or sudo fdisk -l and find out what your drives are it will b something like /dev/dc1
[23:38] <dirtynickels> I don't know what all those errors mean
[23:38] <xubuntu5> from there you can look at fstab documentation on mounting them
[23:38] <adamk> xubuntu5: Did you even look at what he pasted?
[23:38] <dirtynickels> I tried df -h and fdisk -l
[23:38] <xubuntu5> yes
[23:38] <dirtynickels> and nothing showed up about my hdds
[23:39] <dirtynickels> * usb hdds i mean
[23:39] <xubuntu5> are you using a hub?
[23:39] <wylde_> Ben64:  yep, that's where I saw it.
[23:39] <dirtynickels> no
[23:40] <Relondo> When I go to install Ubuntu, it says I have multiple OSes installed, though I only have Win 7. Anyone know why?
[23:40] <dirtynickels> I'm not using a usb hub
[23:40] <adamk> dirtynickels: Have you tried another USB port?
[23:40] <dirtynickels> yes
[23:40] <xubuntu5> did you connect these before boot or after boot?
[23:40] <adamk> Or if the drive has some external power, turn it off, wait a bit, and turn it back on.
[23:40] <dirtynickels> before booting
[23:40] <xubuntu5> yes are these portable drives or powered?
[23:41] <xubuntu5> try what adamk said
[23:41] <MystKid> that didnt do anything
[23:41] <dirtynickels> powered
[23:41] <MystKid> i run tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sda3
[23:41] <xubuntu5> what format are they? ntfs ?
[23:41] <dirtynickels> ext4
[23:41] <adamk> dirtynickels: Well this really sounds like a hardware problem to me.
[23:41] <xubuntu5> yes i'm stumped too
[23:42] <xubuntu5> do they work on another comp?
[23:42] <GeeksOnHugs> I was following steps on a site to fix an error and it had me sudo somethingsomething add repository something and sudo apt-update something and it failed...now Ubuntu Software Center won't open, I suspect it has something to do with what I did?
[23:42] <xubuntu5> GeeksOnHugs does this work sudo synaptic
[23:42] <xubuntu5> does synaptic run?
[23:42] <wylde_> MystKid: I'm not sure it will allow -m 0  did it give you an error?
[23:42] <GeeksOnHugs> lemme try
[23:43] <MystKid> wylde_:  no it seems it did the job correctly buty still 14gb used...
[23:43] <dirtynickels> is there a command to  check if the usb ports are failing
[23:43] <shaneo> hey guys im getting this error after changing my apache2 ports http://paste.ubuntu.com/1034684/ any suggestions
[23:43] <wylde_> MystKid: ahh ok, may change on a reboot I imagine.
[23:43] <GeeksOnHugs> xubuntu5 synaptic not found
[23:43] <GeeksOnHugs> command not found
[23:43] <MystKid> wylde_: well see.. rebooting the server now
[23:44] <LittleBallOfHate> shaneo: you have a named vhost that is conflicting
[23:45] <wylde_> MystKid: I remember losts of things I have read, just not always where/what/when I read them >.<
[23:45] <xubuntu5> GeekOnHugs does sudo apt-get -v show you anything?
[23:45] <w30> Relondo, Linux Ubuntu will call a Windows restore partition (drive) a windows install
[23:45] <wylde_> lots*
[23:45] <GeeksOnHugs> trying...
[23:45] <shaneo> LittleBallOfHate, how do i find where it is and remove it
[23:45] <LittleBallOfHate> shaneo: looked in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default?
[23:45] <dirtynickels> when I plug the drives into another machine it's all good they both mount to /media
[23:46] <xubuntu5> strange they should mount then maybe it's hardware issue like adamk said
[23:46] <Relondo> w30: I figured it out. I have remnants of a failed Ubuntu install. But thanks.e
[23:46] <MystKid> wylde_: still 14gb used
[23:46] <xubuntu5> when is the last time you restarted dirtynickels?
[23:46] <shaneo> LittleBallOfHate, yes all site instances have the port setup to *:7000 and there are no other virtual hosts
[23:46] <LittleBallOfHate> MystKid: there's also reserved space ona  drive that only root can use
[23:46] <wylde_> MystKid: odd
[23:46] <GeeksOnHugs> xubuntu5 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1034688/
[23:46] <dirtynickels> maybe a half hour ago
[23:46] <MystKid> well 14 gigs for reserved on home partition?
[23:47] <LittleBallOfHate> shaneo: do you have a named vhost and a *:7000 in there?
[23:47] <shaneo> LittleBallOfHate, nope
[23:47] <shaneo> LittleBallOfHate, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1034690/
[23:47] <dirtynickels> everything was fine before the reboot
[23:48] <LittleBallOfHate> a vhost line like *:* or name:*
[23:48] <LittleBallOfHate> shaneo: make changes to apache2.conf?
[23:49] <MystKid> wylde_: this is impossible lol
[23:49] <wylde_> MystKid: firing up a VM, gonna try and jog my memory.
[23:49] <shaneo> LittleBallOfHate, i looked but didnt find anywhere to edit the ports
[23:50] <LittleBallOfHate> shaneo: all you did was edit 000-default and change 80 to 7000?
[23:50] <EDawg878_> how do your change permissons of folders locked by root using chmod?
[23:51] <shaneo> LittleBallOfHate, i edited ports.conf default and 000-default
[23:51] <LittleBallOfHate> shaneo: undo ports.conf
[23:51] <shaneo> LittleBallOfHate, ok than what?
[23:51] <graham_king> EDawg878_: You'd have to be root. "sudo chmod ..."
[23:51] <LittleBallOfHate> shaneo: service restart apache2
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> EDawg878_, do you need to or just mess with them?
[23:52] <LittleBallOfHate> er
[23:52] <LittleBallOfHate> shaneo: flip that
[23:52] <w30> Relondo, ah ha, my Grub 2 install calls my restore partition for Windows NT install for some reason but I kept it so I can sell it as a Windows box when I am done with it.
[23:52] <EDawg878_> i need to give 755 for a certain folder
[23:52] <Relondo> w30: Go it.
[23:52] <EDawg878_> but sudo chmod doesnt work
[23:52] <LittleBallOfHate> EDawg878_: what does it say?
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> EDawg878_, not sure myself, others will know. :)
[23:52] <shaneo> LittleBallOfHate, :) i know. ok all changes are made but im still getting the same error about 7000
[23:53] <EDawg878_> it it doesnt say anything
[23:53] <LittleBallOfHate> shaneo: wait, you changed both 80 to 7000 in ports.conf didn't you?
[23:54] <graham_king> EDawg878_: What does "sudo -l" say?
[23:54] <shaneo> LittleBallOfHate, yup
[23:54] <w30> Relondo, HP bios has a restore option button; I hope no one selects it though
[23:54] <EDawg878_> User eric may run the following commands on this host:     (ALL : ALL) ALL     (root) NOPASSWD: ALL
[23:54] <LittleBallOfHate> shaneo: not sure man
[23:54] <EDawg878_> oh nvm
[23:54] <shaneo> LittleBallOfHate, lemme guess listening port should be 80 but virtual port should be *:7000
[23:54] <EDawg878_> sudo
[23:55] <Relondo> w30: Good thing I'm on a Toshiba :)
[23:55] <EDawg878_> it says: User eric may run the following commands on this host:     (ALL : ALL) ALL     (root) NOPASSWD: ALL
[23:55] <LittleBallOfHate> shaneo: nah should all be able to be set to 7000 by changing just what you did.
[23:55] <shaneo> hmm
[23:55] <graham_king> EDawg878_: I'd expect sudo chmod to work. "sudo chmod 755 folder_name"
[23:55] <EDawg878_> sudo chmod _R 755 dir
[23:55] <EDawg878_> sudo chmod -R 755 dir
[23:56] <shaneo> now when i try to connect to wp i see http://127.0.0.1:7000/wordpress
[23:56] <EDawg878_> doesnt do anything
[23:56] <LittleBallOfHate> shaneo: so it works? or you're expecting something different?
[23:56] <Zoohouse> Is Ubuntu still giving out free accounts for their Cloud service like they were doing a while back?
[23:57] <shaneo> LittleBallOfHate, but the page fails to load
[23:57] <graham_king> EDawg878_: And does it work? I don't think chmod outputs anything if it succeeds.
[23:57] <sacarlson> shaneo: I just installed wordpress last week
[23:57] <LittleBallOfHate> shaneo: did it work on 80?
[23:57] <EDawg878_> graham_king:  no i checked with nautilus
[23:57] <shaneo> LittleBallOfHate, yup
[23:57] <Oer> Zoohouse, yes, 1 hour free >> https://try.cloud.ubuntu.com/
[23:58] <graham_king> EDawg878_: What about "sudo ls"? Does your sudo work?
[23:58] <graham_king> You're not on NFS or something funny like that are you?
[23:58] <Zoohouse> Oer: Yes but before they gave you like a gig for free without a time limit. I remember I signed up to it and everything. I had an account. They wanted us to uplodad music and stuff... Remember that?
[23:58] <EDawg878_> graham_king:  sudo ls works
[23:58] <shaneo> sacarlson, cool have fun with it i know i have been just made it public today still needs some work though
[23:59] <Oer> Zoohouse, you mean Ubuntu-one ? sorry, they only give away 5 GB for Free !
[23:59] <pengw> 5gb is sweet
[23:59] <Zoohouse> yea ubuntu one... Oer
[23:59] <sacarlson> shaneo: did you add Listen 7000 to /etc/apache2/ports.conf