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knomepleia2, hmm, i thought you don't sleep07:16
knomeugh - smooth scroll enabled in newest firefox - disabling07:23
astraljavaknome: She doesn't, she just occasionally hibernates.10:12
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knomemmh10:13
knomeastraljava, any plans for thursday?10:13
astraljavaNothing yet, but I'm not sure on which day I'll take the foreign guest out for dinner.10:14
knomek10:16
knomefollow-up on me when you do know10:16
astraljavaSure, what did you have in mind?10:16
knomewe're planning to play NHL on PS310:16
astraljavaHahah!10:16
knomewe're at 4 people right now. :)10:17
knome(and we have 5 controllers)10:17
* astraljava looks at the channel name and thinks whether this is a proper one for this :D10:17
knomeit is!10:17
knome;)10:17
knomevery much the proper channel O:)10:17
astraljavaBut anyway, I'll let you know. :) Now, then. How do I find info on a nickserv account? I'd want to see when a user has last logged in.10:18
knomeno idea10:18
benonsoftwareastraljava: /msg NickServ info nickname10:18
astraljavaDanke!10:19
benonsoftware;)10:19
* astraljava is slightly amused by a user complaining about an operating system, while boasting about having written critical software for a stock market company, and failing to properly comment a block in his .sig file...10:33
knomeheh10:44
knome-users ML has become a circus10:46
knomebrb10:46
knomeor, sometime10:46
knomelet's see10:46
pleia2pfft, I love sleep16:36
pleia2also, doing the Xubuntu section of the flavors class for User Days on the 24th and an "Everything you wanted to know about Xubuntu" talk for a LUG next month16:37
* pleia2 also told them she'd show off 4.10 at the LUG16:38
astraljavaHah, /me read that as 'sod off'.17:23
knomepleia2, if you need help doing that kind of stuff, ask for help :)17:55
pleia2I think I will for the "everything you wanted to know" one, I'll give some nudges when I flesh out my notes more :)17:56
knomegood17:56
knomeyou have a minute, or you busy?17:57
pleia2I have time now17:57
knomegood, i'll PM again :)17:57
pleia2(running out to a LUG meeting in 15 minutes or so)17:57
pleia2k17:57
ochosihi everyone18:25
knomehey ochosi 18:26
ochosii've been continuing to work on the breadcrumbs btw18:26
knome:)18:26
ochosii made the active and hovered state also look like an arrow18:26
ochosiit's a tad more consistent18:26
ochosiotherwise hovering changes the button-size18:27
knomei've been continuing to work on different breads, they've been more and less yummy18:27
ochosiwhich can be unexpected18:27
ochosihmm, nice18:27
knome;)=18:27
knomeochosi, so, anything else new?18:40
ochosii'm also working actively on the panel18:40
knomegood!18:40
ochosibut i'm not sure which way to go with it18:40
ochosihaven't found a style/direction i'm really satisfied with18:40
ochosiactually the lack of padding between the window-buttons concerns me18:41
knomemmhmm?18:41
ochosiwell atm it looks like a chain of strings separated by icons18:41
ochosithat is less than ideal18:41
knomeheh18:41
knomei suppose so yeah...18:42
ochosione more thing i'd like to fix is the behavior with semi-transparent panels18:43
knomewhat's with that?18:43
ochosii want a selected-state of buttons that works with all kinds of semi-transparent backgrounds ideally18:44
knomei'm not sure i follow18:44
ochosii'm also considering to move away from the flat-button look a bit18:44
ochosiwell if you have a semi-transparent, dark panel and a blue background, then a dark-blue selected state won't be very visible18:44
knomemoved to flat buttons in gtk but wanting to go away from flat buttons in panel? hmm..18:44
ochosiwell, "flat" buttons18:45
ochosithey're not really flat, just shadow-less18:45
knome;)18:45
ochosii could imagine a similar style for the panel-buttons18:45
knomehmm. i'm not sure if i'd like that18:45
knomemaybe on selected, but not inactive18:45
ochosiinactive windows will most likely stay flat18:45
knomegood18:46
ochosiin fact that's a property setting of the panel18:46
knome:)18:46
ochosiare you still opposed to semi-transparent panels?19:02
knomei won't use them myself, but if they are default.. well maybe.19:02
knomewe'd have to have a good disussion about this on the meeting19:02
knomei mean, is it ok to enable compositor by default anyway19:03
knome(both yes/no worksforme, but i'd like to know what others think)19:03
ochosithere haven't really been any complaints about it19:03
ochosiso i'm not sure it's a problem19:03
ochosithe setting for that is rather hidden though19:04
knomeno, but otoh, many users want to disable it19:04
ochosiwhich could be both an argument for enabling or disabling it19:04
knomeyes, otoh it's easy to do toggle, but yes, it's quite hidden19:04
ochosigood docs would fix that though19:04
knomegood docs or a slide at the installation slideshow19:04
ochosimhm19:05
knomei think we might want to review the slideshow this cycle for real19:05
ochosihehe19:05
knomereally add some new stuff, maybe tweak the style just a notch19:05
knomebut that comes with the new docs19:06
ochosiyeah, different information might be good19:06
ochosinot just default apps19:06
knomei've added a work item to the blueprint19:06
ochosik19:07
mr_pouitmicahg: hey, any idea whether gegl works without libavcodec? (I think ffmpeg libs are banned from ubuntu isos, and libgegl depends on libavcodec53, I guess that's what has been breaking our dailies for some time)19:33
mr_pouitotherwise we'll kick gimp from the default install19:33
micahgmr_pouit: we were talking about removing it so we could demote libav and solve the libav/libav-extra split19:34
micahgmr_pouit: also, I think it was just banned from pressed media, not ISOs in general19:39
ochosiknome: starting to explore some palettes on colourlovers.com btw21:08
ochosithere are really nice palettes there21:10
knomeochosi, aha, good luck :)21:11
ochosihave you used that page/portal before?21:11
knomewell yeah, it's easy to create a good looking palette, much harder to create a working palette21:11
ochosisure21:11
knomei've used at least something similar, but never used any of the palettes21:11
ochosithis one looks a bit like greybird: http://www.colourlovers.com/palette/2222351/Feeling_Blue21:11
ochosiit could be useful for re-coloring the menus etc21:11
knomemaybe21:12
knomebbl, maybe tomorrow21:13
knomehf/nighty21:14
ochosialright21:14
ochosiseeya21:14

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